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DOJ Wants to Suspend Constitutional Rights During Coronavirus Emergency

The Trump Department of Justice has asked Congress to craft legislation allowing chief judges to indefinitely hold people without trial and suspend other constitutionally-protected rights during coronavirus and other emergencies, according to a report by Politico’s Betsy Woodruff Swan.

While the asks from the Department of Justice will likely not come to fruition with a Democratically-controlled House of Representatives, they demonstrate how much this White House has a frightening disregard for rights enumerated in the Constitution.

The DOJ has requested Congress allow any chief judge of a district court to pause court proceedings “whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster, civil disobedience, or other emergency situation,” according to draft language obtained by Politico. This would be applicable to “any statutes or rules of procedure otherwise affecting pre-arrest, post-arrest, pre-trial, trial, and post-trial procedures in criminal and juvenile proceedings and all civil processes and proceedings.” They justify this by saying currently judges can pause judicial proceedings in an emergency but that new legislation would allow them to apply it “in a consistent manner.”

But the Constitution grants citizens habeas corpus which gives arrestees the right to appear in front of a judge and ask to be released before trial. Enacting legislation like the DOJ wants would essentially suspend habeas corpus indefinitely until the emergency ended. Further, DOJ asked Congress to suspend the statute of limitations on criminal investigations and civil proceedings during the emergency until a year after it ended.

Norman L. Reimer, executive director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, told Politico the measure was “terrifying,” saying, “Not only would it be a violation of [habeas corpus], but it says ‘affecting pre-arrest.’ So that means you could be arrested and never brought before a judge until they decide that the emergency or the civil disobedience is over. I find it absolutely terrifying. Especially in a time of emergency, we should be very careful about granting new powers to the government.”

“That is something that should not happen in a democracy,” he added.

DOJ also asked Congress to amend the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure to have defendants appear at a hearing via videoconference instead of in-person, but only with the defendant’s consent. But it’s not just Americans’ rights the DOJ wants to violate. They also asked Congress to pass a law saying that immigrants who test positive for COVID-19 cannot qualify as asylum seekers

As coronavirus spreads through the country, activists are calling on politicians in office to release prisoners and immigrants held in detention centers, both of which can be a hotbed of virus activity with so many people in close quarters and limited or non-existent supplies of soap, sanitizer, and protective equipment. Some states have already begun to do so. But with this, the Trump administration is taking steps to hold more people in prisons for an undetermined amount of time — showing their priority is not saving lives but giving themselves more power.

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by Anonymousreply 75March 24, 2020 1:43 AM

And so it begins...

by Anonymousreply 1March 22, 2020 3:41 AM

I’m not an Illuminati conspiracist who’d ever think this was engineered to take away our rights.

I am a realist enough to know that the Trump regime is opportunistic and will pounce on an opportunity to take away all our rights.

We’re gonna be North Korea after this passes.

by Anonymousreply 2March 22, 2020 3:44 AM

Barr has latched onto Trump to pursue his own personal Christian Supremacist agenda.

by Anonymousreply 3March 22, 2020 3:45 AM

We all knew this was going to happen.

by Anonymousreply 4March 22, 2020 3:47 AM

This is why it is INFINITELY important to vote this cunt out of the White House in November.

Don't let the coronavirus sidetrack us from the task at hand.

He must be defeated.

And we must take over the Senate, as well.

by Anonymousreply 5March 22, 2020 3:48 AM

R5 Hitler was elected chancellor of Germany.

That was the last election until after WWII ended Nazi Germany.

by Anonymousreply 6March 22, 2020 3:49 AM

I don't get it. In the New Hampshire thread, posters are saying this is what should happen?

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by Anonymousreply 7March 22, 2020 3:52 AM

What? DOJ needs to die.

by Anonymousreply 8March 22, 2020 3:53 AM

Trump is preparing for power grab.

He knows he will most likely lose in November and will do anything to hold onto power.

How will Americans react to the dictatorship?

by Anonymousreply 9March 22, 2020 3:54 AM

This bastard needs to die.

by Anonymousreply 10March 22, 2020 3:55 AM

Check.

by Anonymousreply 11March 22, 2020 3:55 AM

r5 The Georgia senator, whatever her name is, up for reelection in November is involved in the Wall Street/insider trading scandal. Question is will Georgia reelect a criminal or plug their noses and vote for a Dem?

by Anonymousreply 12March 22, 2020 3:59 AM

r5 The Georgia senator, whatever her name is, up for reelection in November is involved in the Wall Street/insider trading scandal. Question is will Georgia reelect a criminal or plug their noses and vote for a Dem?

by Anonymousreply 13March 22, 2020 3:59 AM

Republicans are truly seeing this pandemic as an opportunity for a power grab.

Suspend our rights, imprison us. who knows what else?

They'll stop at nothing.

by Anonymousreply 14March 22, 2020 4:04 AM

Miss Barr has been very a very busy bee running around doing underhanded deeds during this crisis. This is the best thing that could have happened to the few Trump Loyalists who have committed crimes. The Russian Troll Farm engineers being released? Putin's chef? now this. And these are the things we know about!

by Anonymousreply 15March 22, 2020 4:05 AM

The world situation right now, is Putin's dream come true.

Everything he has ever wanted.

A puppet government in the U.S.

The fall of Capitalism.

Authoritarian governments all over the world.

by Anonymousreply 16March 22, 2020 4:05 AM

^^ sorry. Should have read "Trump Loyalists who have been prosecuted for committing crimes."

by Anonymousreply 17March 22, 2020 4:06 AM

1. Women’s march, no big deal

2. Prolonged Puerto Rico protests get governor out of office

3. Everyone in world scared into their homes

4. US military deployed into streets

5. President invokes totalitarian war powers

6. Check mate.

by Anonymousreply 18March 22, 2020 4:21 AM

See? This is why no way, no how should this asshole get war powers during this crisis.

by Anonymousreply 19March 22, 2020 4:29 AM

Isn't this what the fuckheads on the right always accused Obama, Clinton and every other Dem of trying to do?

by Anonymousreply 20March 22, 2020 4:34 AM

Heads up, R12: People in Georgia could give a shit. Moore would have won here, instead of losing in Alabama. That’s the way it is out here.

Georgia is riddled with corruption, arrogance, & hubris.

One of the biggest piece of shit states I’ve ever lived in. Please don’t make the mistake of having hope for Georgia. I don’t see it, at all, whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 21March 22, 2020 4:34 AM

Isn't this similar to the Patriot Act post 9/11?

by Anonymousreply 22March 22, 2020 4:40 AM

Constitutional rights were "suspended" the nanosecond local governments began instituting "we're doing this for citizen's good" mandates about assembly and movement. Mandates that were summarily instituted without consultation with or approval of local legislatures.

by Anonymousreply 23March 22, 2020 4:42 AM

I agree, R23.

We had zero say in the matter, and it was at that point we lost our rights.

But what trump is asking for, are Putin-level powers.

by Anonymousreply 24March 22, 2020 5:18 AM

His government must be destroyed.

And I hope this virus does it.

by Anonymousreply 25March 22, 2020 5:45 AM

FFS we haven't had constitutional rights since the Patriot Act and 9/11.

We're a frickin police state.

by Anonymousreply 26March 22, 2020 5:56 AM

This is probably why DUMP ignored the warnings, and let the virus spread in the U.S.

He wanted to de-stabilize the country, so that he could declare martial law.

by Anonymousreply 27March 22, 2020 7:50 AM

R28 Bingo.

But I have a strong feeling it will all backfire. I know people in the military who have said they will turn against the government if they ever pulled some shit like that. To many people in the military are not willing to put their families and friends through something like that.

This country would burn first.

by Anonymousreply 28March 22, 2020 8:11 AM

I meant R27.

by Anonymousreply 29March 22, 2020 8:12 AM

"people in the military who have said they will turn against the government "

Have you met anyone in the armed forces or police? They're mostly gun-loving rightwing barely-veiled White Supremacist Cletuses who can't wait to take control.

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by Anonymousreply 30March 22, 2020 8:18 AM

That's fuckin' bullshit, they didn't even do that during the Civil War, although they did do things like revoke Habeas Corpus (allowable in the constitution for rebellion).

It's fuckin' irresponsible to be spreading this bullshit. If you don't like Trump fine, but you are truly scum to use a health crises to advance a political agenda.

by Anonymousreply 31March 22, 2020 8:23 AM

I don't think DOJ can implement that without Congressional approval.

by Anonymousreply 32March 22, 2020 8:34 AM

The president will have to do what is necessary. There’s always going to be complainers.

by Anonymousreply 33March 22, 2020 10:39 AM

[quote]I don't get it. In the New Hampshire thread, posters are saying this is what should happen?

I've got a couple of people on that thread on ignore so maybe they're saying it, but no one else is. There are actually people there saying that the government shouldn't be allowed to prohibit mass gatherings, so it's basically the opposite of what you're claiming.

by Anonymousreply 34March 22, 2020 11:11 AM

Where’s the outrage on the right? Do they only get upset when they think a Democrat will come for their guns?

Trump, who wants to take away their constitutional rights seems fine on the other hand?

by Anonymousreply 35March 22, 2020 11:16 AM

I'm quite surprised the right-wing, knee-jerk, white racist cracker queens of DataLounge aren't swarming all over this proposal like flies on shit. After all, any old scapegoat will do just fine.

by Anonymousreply 36March 22, 2020 12:13 PM

I believe many in the military would have rejected orders to take over on behalf of the Trump empire—until now. Now, we have a pandemic. It’s viral. It’s highly contagious. Not staying inside is a public health danger. People must comply or else they put themselves and others at risk. And so given that, when the president tells them to use force to keep the public in line, they will, absolutely. And depending how long the global crisis goes on, this will give the military and the public time to become conditioned to this new way of being. Some won’t want to give it up. And if they are told to continue it afterward to maintain order, well then that is a public service. And if they are told to go to people’s homes and extract them because they’ve been identified as threats, well that is a public service. Dissenters during such an extreme time are dangerous and must be removed, after all.

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by Anonymousreply 37March 22, 2020 12:59 PM

R36 proves yet again the vicious racism, bigotry and loads of hypocrisy of "progressives".

by Anonymousreply 38March 22, 2020 1:08 PM

If the shoe fits, R38, shove it up your fat, entitled ass.

by Anonymousreply 39March 22, 2020 1:38 PM

R39 just can't stop proving that she's exactly the same as those she condemns.

by Anonymousreply 40March 22, 2020 1:40 PM

Enjoy your 'socialist' $1000 check and 'gubmint' free healthcare eventual vaccine, Trumpian dumfuck R38.

by Anonymousreply 41March 22, 2020 4:30 PM

[quote]I don't think DOJ can implement that without Congressional approval.

Isn't this the extension of the Patriot Act Bitch McConnell passed, or tried to pass, this week?

by Anonymousreply 42March 22, 2020 4:41 PM

This is about the suspension of habeas corpus. The gubmint can lock you up indefinitely.

by Anonymousreply 43March 22, 2020 5:01 PM

[quote] This is about the suspension of habeas corpus. The gubmint can lock you up indefinitely.

Lincoln did it without Congress, but later got an Act to cover his ass.

by Anonymousreply 44March 22, 2020 5:03 PM

I can easily see Trump instituting martial law, and the military supporting him.

And then I can see him having Nancy Pelosi arrested, and escorted out of the U.S. Capital, in chains.

Easily.

by Anonymousreply 45March 22, 2020 8:20 PM

Nancy and Hillary would be top of the list except that it's alphabetical.

by Anonymousreply 46March 22, 2020 8:24 PM

None of that shit is going to happen. The fear mongering is strong on this thread. Anything is possible, but come on.

by Anonymousreply 47March 22, 2020 9:00 PM

It Can't Happen Here

by Anonymousreply 48March 22, 2020 9:06 PM

[quote]It Can't Happen Here

How many times have you said this in reference to Trump...only to have it happen?

by Anonymousreply 49March 22, 2020 9:21 PM

I said it first, not R48.

by Anonymousreply 50March 22, 2020 9:26 PM

Exactly, R49.

Probably the same moron who insisted that Hillary would win, and that Trump had no chance in hell of becoming President.

And yet, here we are.

by Anonymousreply 51March 23, 2020 12:26 AM

And Americans will not rise up in anger. There will be no nationwide strikes. They are too well fed. That’s why Trump gets away with everything. We let him.

Only once did they rise and that’s because they were personally being drafted to war. How will martial law affect our vacations and shopping?

by Anonymousreply 52March 23, 2020 12:41 AM

The stay-home mandate is softening us all up like docile sheep.

by Anonymousreply 53March 23, 2020 1:30 AM

Deplorables caused this.

I hope they all die.

by Anonymousreply 54March 23, 2020 2:42 AM

[quote] R4: We all knew this was going to happen.

I sure did!

by Anonymousreply 55March 23, 2020 2:46 AM

The Republicans are spending all their time strategizing how to exploit this pandemic to the fullest extent. And dumping the dirty work on states to figure it out (esp. ones who didn't vote for Trump).

by Anonymousreply 56March 23, 2020 3:12 AM

Dems should also use it politically but not at the expense of the health situation of course.

by Anonymousreply 57March 23, 2020 3:46 AM

Barr is the one who should be in prison.

by Anonymousreply 58March 23, 2020 4:12 AM

And to think this thread go no love.

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by Anonymousreply 59March 23, 2020 4:16 AM

[quote]And Americans will not rise up in anger. There will be no nationwide strikes. They are too well fed. That’s why Trump gets away with everything. We let him.

CORRECTION

White people will not rise up because white people in this country do not know what being oppressed really feels like. The racism used to keep the population at odds with each other was carefully constructed so that white folks would always feel safe and protected against the OTHER that frightens them. White people have been carefully bred like veal and protected from brutality of the law while people of color have had to be careful not to fight too hard or protest too loud lest their communities be crushed by authorities.

This was all on the white community to save us from but they would never see the danger coming because those who control everything would shout about Black people and immigrants to keep them distracted. Now we will all be on lock down but rest assured, the lock down will be more brutal on POC than on whites. You will have some breathing room but it will be open season on the rest of us. Hope you enjoy the show of brutality, I suppose you will, you haven't minded it up to now.

by Anonymousreply 60March 23, 2020 4:25 AM

I don't see how states wouldn't immediately secede. You really think Andrew Cuomo is going to allow Pelosi and Clinton to be jailed?

by Anonymousreply 61March 23, 2020 4:30 AM
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by Anonymousreply 62March 23, 2020 4:33 AM
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by Anonymousreply 63March 23, 2020 4:34 AM

Is there anyone to stand against the scumbag?

by Anonymousreply 64March 23, 2020 4:50 AM

No one, R64.

McConnell is in collusion with DUMP, as are all the other Republicans.

When this thing is over, I tell you that Pelosi and Schumer will be imprisoned by DUMP. Much the same as happens in countries under authoritarian dictatorships.

by Anonymousreply 65March 23, 2020 4:09 PM

I hate McConnell, but Schumer sucks, too. God, he is so uninspiring.

by Anonymousreply 66March 23, 2020 4:17 PM

They already have the entire blue state population under house arrest.

But notice how the red states are free to go about their business as usual?

Next step, deploy the military and declare martial law.

Then arrest the Democratic leadership, and call off the election, for "national security reasons."

We're only one step away from that right now, in case anyone hasn't noticed.

by Anonymousreply 67March 23, 2020 4:17 PM

And I was MOCKED on another thread for suggesting that we needed to be careful how much power the government and authorities were acquiring.

The worst part of saying "I told you so" is that you often pray that you are wrong.

by Anonymousreply 68March 23, 2020 4:23 PM

You weren't wrong, R68.

I think that most people just hope for the best.

Unfortunately, we are in a "worst case scenario" situation right now.

by Anonymousreply 69March 23, 2020 10:09 PM

[quote]Unfortunately, we are in a "worst case scenario" situation right now.

Unfortunately, we are not anywhere near a "worst case scenario" yet.

by Anonymousreply 70March 23, 2020 10:12 PM

CBS in LA said enough of this bullshit and started running a Dr. Phil episode with a woman having an imagined affair with Putin. So meta.

by Anonymousreply 71March 23, 2020 10:45 PM

R71 Was her name Melania?

by Anonymousreply 72March 24, 2020 1:18 AM

Shumer does not suck, Jerkoff.

by Anonymousreply 73March 24, 2020 1:36 AM

I want Trump dead.

by Anonymousreply 74March 24, 2020 1:37 AM

You could have stopped after the sixth word, OP.

by Anonymousreply 75March 24, 2020 1:43 AM
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