Coronavirus Freakout 15: This will have to do

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I have adjusted my panic level upward. I was 5 but now I'm at 7.

I was 7 and now 9.

Fuck.

NBC, CBS, TBS, HBO and Comedy Central have all announced that they will now shoot their New York-based late-night programs without an audience.

Among the shows affected are some of the late-night world’s most prominent: “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert,” “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon," “Full Frontal with Samantha Bee," “Last Week Tonight with John Oliver" and “The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.” Bee’s program, a weekly show, will go audience-free beginning Wednesday; the remaining programs will start the practice next week.

Thanks, OP.

NBA Corona virus drama tonight:

[quote]@royceyoung reports that the Thunder-Jazz game was seconds away from tipping off when the Thunder's head medical staffer sprinted onto the floor to talk to referees in Oklahoma City. At that point, players and staff were sent back to their respective locker rooms.

then

[quote]The Jazz and Thunder players are currently quarantined in the OKC arena, league sources tell ESPN. This is following Rudy Gobert testing positive for the coronavirus.

and now:

[quote]The NBA has suspended the season.

The asshole, who deliberately touched all the reporter's mics, should be fined.

I’m still at 4.

I’ve had flu before. You feel sick, you lie in bed, then you’re better.

The fact that you can (?) get reinfected is troubling, though. That could get old reeeaal faaaast.

How can we repatriate Tom Hanks?

Karma man... wow

Chris Paul of the OKC Thunders is the president of the NBA Players Union. You can see him in videos talking with refs and coaches and see him basically saying we're done.

R3 - Same! This reminds of a blockbuster movie where everything starts off normal then quickly spirals into chaos (World War Z, War of the Worlds, Walking Dead...).

My company gave us 3 days off from work and said to report back on Monday. It will probably be A LOT worse on Monday!

Dumbass R7 - This is A LOT worse than the fucking FLU!!

I have a sore throat, a the start of a cough. My panic level just ticked up from 5 to 6.

R11 Yeah, this is spiraling FAST.

Panicking is definitely going to make it better.

Look, we’re all going to get it. Most of us will survive. STIFF UPPER LIP.

NBA and Tom Hanks finally makes it real. 10.

There are still moments I can't believe this is real. I know it is. But it is still stunning.

Stay home, stay apart as much as you can. Distance will help.

Serious Thought: We may need a separate thread (sooner rather than later) dedicated to folks enduring emotional challenges associated with CV. There will be DLers directly and/or indirectly affected wanting advice, to reach out, seeking comfort, giving advice, consolation, etc.

Can anyone tell me what will become of my jury duty, scheduled in 3 weeks?

It sucks, but this and the stock market crashing are good for the general election.

No one in my city has it and I’m kinda wondering when or if this is actually going to happen. Will it be anticlimactic?

I have to show up for preliminary jury selection on March 31. C.R.A.P. I'm going to call in advance and tell them not feeling well, etc etc. I am NOT subjecting myself to potentially sick people.

R19> Fuck JD

Let me get right on that, R19.

R7, actually, it's very unlikely that you can get re-infected. People who "got it twice" probably just got better for a while, and then got worse. I work in immunology, and I see nothing about this virus that would make it an exception to people building immunity after getting infected by it.

Between Tom and Rita, the NBA and the WHO pandemic designation (a fucking month too late!) tomorrow will be a bloodbath on Wall St, and perhaps Main St.

Troubling news indeed.

Jury duty will surely be suspended before three weeks have passed.

R7- You are fucking DUMB. Dr Anthony Fauci the head of the NIH said today that the Corona Virus is TEN TIMES more lethal than the seasonal flu.

r21 I am scheduled for 4/1. And in Chicago, things aren't changing much so I don't have much confidence. I likely will have to schlep myself out to my doctor to get a note. I think the courts should be canceled for a few months.

[quote] No one in my city has it

Wanna bet?

[quote]Between Tom and Rita, the NBA and the WHO pandemic designation (a fucking month too late!) tomorrow will be a bloodbath on Wall St, and perhaps Main St.

Don’t forget the entire country of Italy being SHUT DOWN.

Yes, r28 - r21 here - I have a doctor's appt Monday and am planning on getting a note. NOT chancing it.

😷 This is a great time to be retired from the field of medicine.

The Michigan Supreme Court is recommending the suspension of all civil jury trials and some criminal jury trials.

R25- What about the Trump 30 day ban on anyone entering the United States from Europe.

I wouldn't want to go to court anytime soon. Remember you have to go through and metal detector and put all your things in that little tray. I do have on the 18th of this month a place I have to be where I will have to go through metal detectors.

Anyone living in a big city should be on high alert. Situation can change very quickly. It's not even just the virus but the panicky people that you have to watch out for.

I said this on another thread. I kept asking DL people if they think I will still be able to go on my gay cruise to Europe in July. I guess now the answer is NO.

This has stopped me cold from ordering Chinese takeout.

Funny how a simple microorganism is enough to show the world the illusion of capitalism. All the fantasy crumbling down. Will people learn? This should be a rehearsal for the next 15 years when water is gone and natural resources are over.

[quote] This has stopped me cold from ordering Chinese takeout.

Honestly, are you really? I am and I feel embarrassed to admit it but I won't take any chances.

On TRMS tonight, Ron Klain said we have 65,000 ventilators and 1 million hospital beds in the entire country.

The attending physician of Congress told them he expects 70 to 150 million people will ultimately be infected.

If 20% of those cases are severe—which largely requires hospitalization on a ventilator—that means 14 million to 30 million people will be descending on hospitals, competing for 1 million beds and 65,000 ventilators.

By all means go on that cruise, r37.

I'm guessing that you can negotiate a new low price, too !

I was at three, and then my husband was examined to have several lesions on his organs, and I fear I'm gonna be among the sickies as I accompany him to hospital visits, so my 'apprehension level' is at four. My fears and apprehensions are mostly with my poor dear.

I ordered pizza last night. I paid by credit card wearing latex gloves. I unpacked it using second pair.

"Trump added that the travel restriction would not apply to the United Kingdom"

WTF??!!

Dow futures started tanking after Trump’s speech. Currently down 1,100 points and still falling.

No lie, I just sanitized my door and keys and then went out did the same to the apartment building door. It's only used by two other tenants. I live in a small building and we get zero cleaning services.

Lawrence O’Donnell guest: The last time I dad this feeling was 1981 when I was shown a spreadsheet showing that 50% of the gay men in the Castro were already infected with HIV.

I've been crying off and on all night due to fear and anxiety. I'm really scared because I don't know what will happen to my beloved dog if I have to go into the hospital for an extended time.

🚢 Come Aboard The New Covid Cruise Line, LLC ..........

[italic] We'll Take You There For Half The Fare !

So, you can catch this from anyone, right? Not just a Chinese? I’m a little confused.

Best of luck to you and your hubby, R43.

You can call it Tube Neck, or the superflu, or Captain Trips, but it's all the same thing.

I wonder if they aren’t distributing tests because we’ll find we are all positive!

R49= MARY!

I just brought all my wet clothes that can't go into the dryer and I hang at our communal laundry room clothesline and Im hanging them in my tiny apartment. One behind the refrigerator.

Rachel Maddow said that a government doctor testified to Congress today that we could likely have 10 million people with Coronavirus flooded our hospitals in the coming weeks.

This is playing out EXACTLY like the Contagion move.

R49, same thought has crossed my mind about my cats. No one would or could come to my apartment to care for them. I have friends and we cat-sit for each other but if I have the virus, who would come into my home?

I have two auto feeders and they hold enough food for about a week. But after that...

My game plan is if I get sick, I'm going to stay home and tough it out so I can at least feed my cats.

R49... stay cool. First, you will probably only get mild symptoms if you get it. Second, start thinking carefully. There will be a solution. Order in extra food, so someone just has to collect the dog and that. Poll your friends and relatives. Talk to your vet, which probably offers boarding. Is your dog a pure-bred? There might be a rescue organization that could cover you if worse comes to worst. Don't panic. Start thinking it through. I have, as a dog owner.

r47 I used a Purell wipe on the handrail for three floors (the upper ones can fend for themselves) this afternoon as the elevator in our building underwent repairs. I need to make a daily visible checklist of things to disinfect and make sure I have ample gloves of cloth and vinyl when I go out.

I still order from Panda Express at the Mall (not a *real* Chinese restaurant with Chinese employees...)

Aww if I still lived in Seattle I'd have offered to take care of infected DLers' kitties, or adopt them if the worst should happen.

So when will old deplorables start dropping dead?

Ok, I’m a 10 now: the NBA and Tom/Rita got me scared. And my throat is scratchy and nose runny. Ugh. Well, at least I have reading material.

R49, you'll most likely be shuffled off to a nursing home to recuperate. Most nursing homes are happy to accommodate family pets for visitation. With a little luck, they will be so impressed with you pooch, and hire him as a Canine Therapist, and you can recover together.

My parents refuse to stock essential food. They think everything is hysteria. They're smart liberal types. I can't convince them otherwise. I went to the supermarket and stocked food and essentials. I bought something for them and kept it here with me. My guess is LA will go to chaos by next Wednesday, they live in Santa Monica, not far.

I have a sore throat since last night. For now, I'm telling myself it's just the annual spring allergies and seasonal change post nasal drip.

I had one little bottle of Purell on hand thank god, and ordered mini 4 bottles on eBay tonight ($5.00 each which wasn't bad, those mini Bath and Body Works ones) I was not paying $75.00 for full size bottle. Before this blows up, I am stopping at store every few days for food so I would at least be set for 1 month- Have rubber gloves, have a decent face mask I ordered, Lysol, bleach.. Got all of the Theraflu shit, lozenges, Emergen-C Gummies.. Ordered about 5 books from Amazon- I work from home. But every time I go in the store the they are looking more like a war zone- Every time I touch that credit card touchscreen I cringe!

And I hate reading about people here worried about their pets. That makes me so sad...

I stocked up on extra dog food. Tomorrow I am going to the grocery store to stock up on more canned goods.

I've been poo-pooing this thing up until now, but I'm OFFICIALLY scared. I'm going to the grocery store tomorrow and stocking up on soup and frozen dinners. I'm also going to PetSmart and buying extra dog food.

I read that aspirin works as an antiviral against influenza. I don't know if it would work well agains Corona but it might.

I fully expect a company message tomorrow morning--hopefully with a more proactive message about working from home and no travel.

R67... you're probably right. Gupta just said if a person goes to hospital with symptoms they will be tested first for flu... there's still a ton of that out there.

R57: OMG!! EXACTLY like the Contagion movie!!! This is life imitates art big time! I am going to rent it now (and freak myself out even more).

Sorry, pretty sure aspirin does not act as an anti viral. It lowers fever.

R49 Cry more

R65 HAHA nursing home? Once he is infected he will die at the hospital. You Americans don't have the resources to take care of all the infected in the next few weeks/months. Doctors will be forced to play god and decide who to save and he won't be one of them. It's already happening in Italy.

[quote] I ordered pizza last night. I paid by credit card wearing latex gloves. I unpacked it using second pair.

How did you protect yourself from the infected food worker who kneaded the dough and sneezed on the pizza while boxing it?

[quote] [R49], you'll most likely be shuffled off to a nursing home to recuperate. Most nursing homes are happy to accommodate family pets for visitation. With a little luck, they will be so impressed with you pooch, and hire him as a Canine Therapist, and you can recover together.

Or worse. In a few days, China built crematoriums and called them "hospitals." Rounded up the poor and infected and...well, that's why it's infection rate is declining.

CBS closes NYC offices

I'm buying several of these tomorrow. If I have to been homebound I don't care if I get fat. It will make me feel better to enjoy some delicious cake.

A few days ago I was a 5 or 6. I'm a nine now. I never get bad sicknesses, but I also work with the public and am not in a place where I can get even a little sick not then work for two weeks. I as so fucked.

The....obese are at risk, along with the elderly.

R79- YOU BEAST!!!

This is no time to get OBESE! That will make you high risk!

So let me help. Can I come over, we can die together and I will eat 1/2 of your cakes! And whoever dies last gets whatever is left.

I’m headed to the store tomorrow to stock up on essentials. I live in deplorable land - hopefully, they still consider this “fake news” and I’ll still be able to get everything.

I’m worried about business and the financial repercussions of this. I can’t be poor - my dog eats too much. She’s a bitch and I have to keep her happy.

Are the touchscreens at grocery store self-checkouts safe from viruses? I'm scared to touch anything these days.

I will make a Costco run first thing Saturday morning. I was actually going to make a big grocery delivery order, but everyone else had the same idea, so FreshDirect, Amazon Fresh, and Peapod all had no available times.

[quote]R59 Don't panic. Start thinking it through. I have, as a dog owner.

Can you Purell pets?

R56, next time you go to Walgreens or a market (not Walmart) pick up a few bars of Fels Naptha soap bars. They’re in the laundry aisle, not the hand soap aisle.

It’s a laundry soap and does a good job of cleaning clothes if you have to wash them in the sink. If you can’t get that, get a bar or two of Zote (Mexican laundry soap bar). I’ve used both and prefer Fels Naptha, but get which ever one you can get and pick up a couple of bars, it’s cheap and if you end up quarantining in your apartment, you can keep your clothes clean. Fels Naptha is good for keeping underclothes white. It’s not bleach, it’s just effective.

If you don’t want to go to the communal laundry room to do your laundry at all, the prepper hand laundry machine is a five gallon pail, like a Home Depot bucket, and a new plunger. You put the dirty clothes in the bucket, add water and a small amount of Tide or similar laundry soap, and agitate it with the plunger. It gets your clothes clean and doesn’t take up much room. If you get a lid, you can cut a hole in the top and put the plunger handle through the hole, or if you don’t want to do that, just do it in the bathtub or shower. This actually works pretty well and is easy to store in a tight space. You might think about planning for this if you could be quarantined or just want to stay away from other tenants.

[quote]Are the touchscreens at grocery store self-checkouts safe from viruses?

Hell no.

Bring a pen with you, and use the non-writing end to press keys/sign on the keypad.

God no R84, Thats why you should have purely in your car, when you get back to car, clean your hands. At very least DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE until you can get home and wash.

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Fucking PURELL. Purely. R880 AWESOME idea!

In the last hour or so, it's been confirmed that Tom Hanks and his wife are infected, the NBA is suspending its season, and the virus is in the US congress.

I'm stocking up on aspirin.

Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) has been used for more than 115 years in medicine. Research exists to show that aspirin has antiviral effects in vitro, for example, by blocking influenza virus propagation via NF‐κB inhibition when used at high concentrations and short‐term incubation steps. The aim of this study was to confirm the antiviral activity of aspirin against influenza virus and further elucidate the activity of aspirin against other respiratory viruses.

If someone had it unbeknownst got better 7 weeks ago would they be able to transfer it now?

Shit's in the wind.

I ordered hand sanitizer from Lowes and they charged my credit card and said they were gonna deliver it on the 3rd but it's been a week and now it's cancelled, they didn't even send me an email! I found out when I checked the order status. CUNTS!

R94, only if they got it a second time and were carrying it once again. In all likelihood, people would develop immunity to coronavirus after an infection, but I'm not sure if it was a very light case.

Has anyone noticed that deliveries from Amazon are taking longer than normal? Like they're supposed to be delivered, but they don't show up until the next day.

Seriously, all the things posted here that DLers want to buy, they have been missing from store shelves for awhile. I went to Target 3x this week and came away with only a can of Lysol. Was lucky to get it. Target employee was just unboxing it as I walked up and a woman said she wanted every can in the box. Good thing the employee told her there was a max limit of six per shopper. Still that was half the stock for the store. It was a whole box of 12 cans. I'm sure it was gone quickly.

and Stephen Colbert going to have to his show with his audience yelling out his name repeatedly (but he'll still be funny I bet).

have to do his show without his audience

I'm going to the dentist tomorrow. Isn't that delightful?

Fortunately for me, my dentist was wearing gloves and facemasks for years, long before it was recommended as a preventive measure. Here's hoping ..........

R88, great idea but I would use a Q-tip or some sort of stick and throw it away immediately after using.

R87 Thanks dude. Those are great tips. I'm getting the soap bars. I'm half Latino so I'm used to washing clothes with soap when I'm down in Latin America. My grandma does dishes with bar soaps as well. I guess that preps me a little more for the chaos we're about to get.

I feel so stupid that i've never in my life thought about using a prepper laundry machine. This looks super cool.

r102 hah! I have a denist appointment tomorrow too.

⏳ CORONA TIME 11:00 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 126,300

DEATHS: 4,633

CRITICAL: 5,709

🇺🇸 UNITES STATES

CASES: 1,322

DEATHS: 38

CRITICAL: 10

Well, the Olympics are fucked. As is Eurovision.

Oh, no!

That's an 80% death rate R107!!!!

Actually, its more like 90% DEATH RATE!!!!!!

Scrub Tina! Scrub!

I wonder if Seattle will go on lock down?

omg. This is the end of the world.

Big deal r44, you have no idea what happened to that pizza before it arrived to you.

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r112 fuck I hope not. Maybe it'll be enough to have the thrill of driving down I-5 at 65 mph until RIGHT at the Mercer St/Seattle Center offramps, instead of slowing down at Mountlake Terrace/Edmonds.

10 days till a vaccine?

Restauranteur Tom Douglas is temporarily closing all his restaurants in Seattle 13 of 14 as sales were down 90%— just the bakery stays open.

Well, Forrest Gump IS our history marker.

How much longer will Trump continue to have rallies? Who will be able to override him if he refuses?

R121: Let him!

Chet weighs in shirtless.

Speaking of life being a box of chocolates!

I forgot that I had an extra pound of See's in the freezer from Christmas!!!!

When I am on my deathbed I am bring those chocolates in and I am going to go out in STYLE, BITCH!!!!

😾 What if I can't get my favorite chocolate for Easter?

🐥 Or Peeps? It's not Easter without Marshmallow Peeps.

Or speckled jelly beans?

Hanks son at R123 looks "special". Never heard his voice before.

R121 He’s cancelled a scheduled trip and an upcoming rally:

[quote]BREAKING: “Out of an abundance of caution from the coronavirus outbreak, the president has decided to cancel his upcoming events in Colorado and Nevada,” White House’s Stephanie Grisham says.

[quote]CANCELED: Trump campaign is postponing its “Catholics for Trump” event March 19 in Milwaukee.

Panic level: eight-year-old boy at the Neverland Ranch

Stay out of nursing homes. They're death factories for Covid-19.

Whats with the racist comments at Hank's son? Do AA hate him or something? Black twitters are going mad at him.

I read on Facebook today that the virus originated on Hillary’s server and started to spread from there to all the orientals!!1!

No, Dee, it was one of them attachments ON HER EMAILS!!!!

"Catholics for Trump?"

As a Catholic, that shocks & shames me.

Yeah, a LESBLO gay attachment.

March 15th is coming.

Recover in a nursing home! Oh, my stars and garters!

Ugh. Someone in my building just tested positive for it. Shit.

It's getting scary out there DLrs....stay safe. Am going to stock up on groceries tomorrow morning, am taking morning off work to do so. Am lucky to be in an unaffected area (only one confirmed case in my county/region), but know this will soon change.

Thanks for all the tips and info.

I was at 9 but I've recently downgraded to 5. I even got Chinese takeout on Saturday and am planning to get dim sum this weekend.

Now that more factual information about the virus is coming out, I'm getting a little less scared. Young people are rarely dying without other complications. The incubation period is more commonly between five and nine days. Recovered patients are in fact seroconverted, so, reinfection doesn't appear to be a concern.

I'm a little alarmed about the news that the virus can last in the air for up to three hours, and I'm feeling vindicated about my decision to stop using public transportation. I'm also going to try to stay out of crowded areas. But, since I'm still reasonably young and healthy, at this point, I'm more worried about passing it to my boyfriend since he has hypertension and to my cat who's old and asthmatic.

Now I'm more scared about what this will do to the economy. This could be an enormous blow and not just because the stock market is tanking. Service workers are being laid off or suspended without pay. Large corporations can probably weather this storm, but small businesses might not. There's a good chance that any business or industry that was struggling will not make it through this crisis.

Is Trump contagious yet ?

R49, Do you have a neighborhood community message board? We have Nextdoor in my town. I think you'll find some kind-hearted folks who can help you with your dog in that scenario, if you don't have friends or family.

The vast majority of us will get through this, and it's as a community that we will look out for each other, as the WH has shown time and again that the government can't.

In my most optimistic days, I think this virus is what will do the most good to reunite this country. On my pessimistic days, I think it's just another opportunity to blame and point fingers. Maybe we don't let Trump do that this time.

Jesus that's a TON of ink on Hanks's son. He doesn't seem to bothered by what's happened.

Then again Tom and Rita likely a) were diagnosed early on and b) have the best care available to anyone. They should be fine.

to = too in r142

R125, Peeps are made near me. My area has so far announced college in-building class closures, but nothing else. However, we are contiguous to a county (Bucks in PA) that has a couple cases. Pray for the Peeps!

The past 24 hours moved it into serious stage. I’m going to the country and stocking up on food. No longer looking it as an opportunity to get cheap travel. Europe is definitely out.

The absence of enough hospital beds and respirators is the main thing concerning me. I don’t think I have low risk - but reading about Healthy 32 year olds needing intubation with extreme lung damage scares me.

A Utah Jazz player is preliminarily Covina 19 positive

I'm getting really scared.

At times like these, it's tough without a Mom.

Special thoughts to those of you without families.

At this point, any efforts to contain or slow the spread are like an umbrella in a hurricane. The epidemiological patterns established for this virus tells us its circulation is already widespread and case numbers will double every few days. Our healthcare system, and then our economy, will collapse. We're entering a dark age. Special thanks to the especially stupid Americans, electing an obvious psychopath to the presidency. The toll will be orders of magnitude worse. It didn't have to be like this.

I'm tracking the US and five other industrialized First World nations (Australia, Canada, Iceland, Norway, and UK) for deaths, recoveries, confirmed cases since March 10 2020.

I am sad to report that of those six, the ONE country whose deaths outnumber recoveries is the US.

I'm scared for all the small business owners who will go out of business over this thing. Lots of businesses in tourist towns are going to get decimated.

Can you imagine owning a bed & breakfast in someplace like Provincetown while this in going on?

See, this is why "it's just like flu! Why all the fuss?" is doing no one any favours.

R124- I just spent $78.99 at Sees.com for an EASTER TREASURE EGG, 1 can of TOFFE-ETTES, and a one pound custom mix of Milk chocolate/dark chocolate peanut clusters. YUM.

Government health officials now believe that HALF the population of the US will become infected. Just think about that. Our health care system is going to collapse under the pressure.

[quote] I'm scared for all the small business owners who will go out of business over this thing. Lots of businesses in tourist towns are going to get decimated.

R150 , sweet of you to worry. A good friend works at a major airport. He and coworkers are concerned about their jobs because of the flight cancellations. Sad.

[quote]I've been crying off and on all night due to fear and anxiety. I'm really scared because I don't know what will happen to my beloved dog if I have to go into the hospital for an extended time.

R49, this is my biggest concern, too. Make a plan. Find someone ahead of time to take him or her temporarily. Plan for the worst. Most importantly, self-isolate. Stock up now on everything you don't have to leave your house or apartment, if you can.

R153 getting infected does not mean you will get ill or that it will be serious. If you are healthy you should be fine. OTOH R20 - how can anyone even hint that this pandemic is good for anything including the election?? That attitude is part of the problem. Some nutjob will go around intentionally exposing people. You want that?

I really believe, ill or not, self isolation is key.

There's no way in hell I'm stepping foot in a gym until this thing is under control. Are people still working out at the gym?

Anyone stocking up, remember that many parts of the country are entering storm season (and others live in earthquake regions). Don't fully rely on frozen items. Have plenty of non-perishables, too.

Perfect excuse to do what I love to do - self-isolate and try to see as few people as possible. May have to cancel my Florida vacation in 2 weeks - but I’ll wait to decide.

[quote]officials now believe that HALF the population of the US will become infected.

And most of them will either be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms.

R151

He..shat his shorts?

If only chocolate could cure The Corona !

Self isolation should have been broadcast loud and clear a month ago but of course they would wreck our way of life and the stock market. Now it's too late. Trump thought he was going to grift a virus.

Is there vomiting?

That’s the only thing about being sick that really slows me down.

No, but some people get the runs.

[quote]R163 If only chocolate could cure The Corona !

Why rule it out??

Trump did get some good news today.

Mickey D's is introducing an all new Big Mac, with FOUR ALL BEEF PATTIES IN A SINGLE SANDWICH ! ! !

R162 This is the NBA player who tested positive for CV tonight, triggering the NBA to suspend the rest of the season. The clip is from a press availability Monday where he jokingly made a point of touching all the microphones (haha, I ain’t skeered!)

No more hand sanitizers in stores. Sigh.

Yeah - there really should be self isolation now.

....

I'm going to bed. Which I dread because I think: what if, when I wake tomorrow, I'm fevered? Night all.

Get a grip, people! The hysteria and paranoia is out of hand.

The good news is that if we even have an election in November, trump is most certainly toast.

Everything is not beautiful.

Not even close.

[quote]R170 No more hand sanitizers in stores. Sigh.

Make your own, bitch!

2 parts rubbing alcohol, 1/4 part aloe vera gel. Add 10 drops essential oils and dash of your favorite cologne.

Your breathing tube might be a bit of an obstacle, R124.

Thank you for your post, R141.

My friend told me that the whole foods on Upper East Side was cleaned out...

Oh for fucks sake

@mikiebarb

This is a genuinely baffling Tweet. The mainstream media — minus the cable news network she worked at and profited from for years— has been the source of courageous, reliable and thoughtful journalism about the coronavirus since the start of the epidemic.

Quote Tweet @megynkelly

I’m so frustrated right now ... that we can’t trust the media to tell us the truth without inflaming it to hurt Trump ... that Trump has misled so many times we no longer know when to trust his word ... that even I as a journalist am not sure where to turn for real info on COVID.

I'm supposed to fly to Michigan (Ann Arbor) this weekend to visit family. Should I cancel? Once there, I won't be in contact with that many people. I'm just concerned about flying right now. What do you guys think?

Cancel R182. You can visit your family in a couple of months. The last thing we need is people constantly moving around right now.

Sorry, virus might be making me woozy (????)

It’s 2 parts rubbing alcohol to [bold]1 part[/bold] aloe vera gel.

Hopefully my recipe didn’t kill anyone.

Flying out of what city? Your flight will possibly be canceled before you have a chance.

R183 Thanks. I think I just needed someone to say it. My family will be disappointed, but you're right.

[quote]And most of them will either be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms.

People are still parroting this shit? You. are. wrong. and will find out the hard way.

I don't know how it is people can be so stupid, but there's an entire nation of them out there, immune to facts and logic.

R185 This is domestic travel - are those getting canceled too?

Good luck finding aloe vera or rubbing alcohol. Like no one else has thought of DIY hand sanitizer.

Everything related to sanitation/prevention has been cleared out, from hand sanitizer to medical gloves.

[quote]R186 My family will be disappointed, but...

They don’t want your germs, anyway : (

R190 I was hoping that would be the case and that they'd tell me to cancel, but they're encouraging me to go. Maybe the situation in MI isn't as dire (they just had the first cases yesterday). My relatives there seem rather nonchalant about it. I don't understand.

Posting this again. Logical, scientific analysis of what's happened so far and how this will likely unfold. It's not pretty, but better to be informed than not. It might help people understand the magnitude of exponential disease spread, and how that this process is well underway.

R191, there is more than 1 case in MI. The US isn’t testing so the numbers look deflated. I know it’s tough but I would stay put. Your family will understand. Just wait a month or two.

R191, read the article and study the graphs at R192. Once cases surface, community spread has been active for a while. Since testing is abysmal, you can reasonably expect the actual numbers to be orders of magnitude higher. Don't go.

Fuck off, R187. From WHO (World Health Organization, asshole):

[quote]For COVID-19, data to date suggest that 80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection, requiring oxygen and 5% are critical infections, requiring ventilation.

Chris Martenson's video today. This guy has been 100 steps ahead of anyone in our government. Everything he's forecast has been accurate.

Thank you for all your responses. I agree with all of you. My family thinks I'm overreacting, so I needed a little reassurance that I'm not being alarmist.

I think it may be time for Escape from New York. Seems like it’s becoming an epicenter.

R167- Are those brownies good?

R182, you heard about that vietnamese insta influencer who went to fashion shows in europe and flew back to vietnam and 7 people on the same flight was infected with it coz she tested positive. they are stuck in shit hole vietnam!

R195, read the reports coming out of Italy and Iran. People in their 20s, 30s, and 40s are succumbing to pneumonia. We know there are two strains, and one is more virulent than the other. "Most of them will either be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms" is simply v2.0 of "it's just the flu".

Also, R195, and thanks for linking to WHO website. Same organization that just today declared this a pandemic, even though it met the criteria weeks ago. Jesus Christ. Don't listen to what authorities are saying. Pay attention to what they are doing (or not doing).

I was very lucky today, at my local supermarket, they had delivery of hand sanitizer, they gave them to check out cashiers so customers just buy it I suppose, placing limit you could buy. I only bought one, didn't want to be greedy...the cashier actually put like 4 bottles away for herself...can't blame her, she interacts with people all day.

[quote]read the reports coming out of Italy and Iran.

How about posting links to these “reports,” R201?

R200 I'd rather be stuck in Vietnam than Ann Arbor though.

Someone told me tonight that you don't get reinfected but you get better for a few days and then it hits you again which is when people get pneumonia. some don't get the 2nd wave and I don't know if all that get the 2nd wave get pneumonia

not just pneumonia, double pneumonia!!!! with permanent lung damage even if you recover...

and so many young people vape as well! so their lungs are already in poor shape, they think they are immune lol.

R204, Chris Martenson collated some in the video at R196. You can also study the genomic epidemiology of the virus and look things up yourself. Google it.

Do you guys have advance medical directives? Did you say you want ventilation?

[quote]R199 Are those brownies good, r167?

It doesn’t matter, because we’re all going to die tomorrow.

Just eat them. Eat them all.

Duncan Hines and Ghirardelli make the best brownie mixes, IMO. So easy, comfort food, for sure.

The next few days will have some alarming reports, but remember that a lot of the new cases will be known because testing is becoming more available. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson were feeling a little icky and were able to get tested. Contrast that to a few weeks ago when the doctors at UC Davis had trouble getting a test for their seriously ill patient. The virus is undoubtedly spreading, but before you crap your pants TOO much, it is not necessarily exploding like crazy.

Why are the Hanks in the hospital if their symptoms are mild?

someone on my fb feed was in Walmart in NJ, no more toilet paper. she posted a pic. empty shelves

[quote]R211 Duncan Hines and Ghirardelli make the best brownie mixes, IMO. So easy, comfort food, for sure.

Now is the time to let all our secret recipes FLY FREE!

Anyone found hoarding secret recipes should be arrested.

R213 Because unlike the geezers and and poors, it's important that we live.

No, YOU go fuck yourself, R195.

Q to WHO guy: What were mild, severe and critical? We think of “mild” as like a minor cold.

WHO guy: No. “Mild” was a positive test, fever, cough — maybe even pneumonia, but not needing oxygen. “Severe” was breathing rate up and oxygen saturation down, so needing oxygen or a ventilator. “Critical” was respiratory failure or multi-organ failure.

r213 they are in Australia so they may be doing things differently there.

What's with the obese thing being higher risk? I'm fat, but I'm in good health with no underlying medical issues, 50 yrs old.

it's really maddening and insane how we still don't have adequate testing.

by April we're going to see a dramatic rise in infection cases

Hanks were staying in the same hotel as someone who tested positive (one of Australia's first cases)...

Hanks touched down in Gold Coast on January 26 for the film, which is still in pre-production meaning cameras have not started rolling yet.

He was rumored to be staying at Peppers Broadbeach, the very same hotel building where a 44-year-old Chinese national, who later became one of Australia's first cases of coronavirus, was staying, according to The Advertiser.

If people could be tested the published mortality rate would decrease dramatically. Only the sickest people are being tested for the virus. Trump is an idiot.

[quote] Why are the Hanks in the hospital if their symptoms are mild?

Because they're rich and famous. If you or I had mild symptoms, we'd be sent home for "self-quarantine."

I work in Healthcare and on the front lines(off tonight). We are taking this very very seriously. I myself am over 60 and have Asthma which puts me highly at risk. Read what's going on in Italy and that will be us soon. Suppose a city’s hospitals have a total of 10 ventilators and suppose seven of them are in use, keeping victims of familiar flu and pneumonia alive. The eruption of a new disease that causes a mere four people to need a ventilator poses a crisis for that city. And the crisis becomes unsustainable if similar outbreaks are happening in surrounding cities as well. Covid-19 is different from influenza because it is new. And any new stress on the health-care infrastructure is a potential national emergency. Those of us working in Hospitals have been warned to not post on social media and can be fired(in my area).

R139 Typical capitalist Trumptard boomer . You'll gasp your last breath in a death rattle. "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DOW JONES!"

I work at a cancer center, so I am very nervous, not for myself, but for the patients. I really really don't want to be the Typhoid Mary bringing it in.

Yeah - the absence of medical equipment is my biggest concern. Just not enough for everyone - given this is a lung impairing disease for which respirators and hospital care are the only treatments.

Here's another food "secret." If you like caramel, try this jar of Mrs. Richardson's butterscotch caramel sauce. It seems like they now make just plain "caramel" sauce (more expensive). Anyway, I only eat this once every ten years or so, but I love it. Goes with lots of things: ice cream, brownies, etc. Not expensive and, I bet, not sold out at stores.

I didn’t panic-buy and now it’s too late. Dammit.

What we may be in for, from Italy:

Two weeks ago, Italy had 322 confirmed cases of the coronavirus. At that point, doctors in the country’s hospitals could lavish significant attention on each stricken patient.

One week ago, Italy had 2,502 cases of the virus, which causes the disease known as COVID-19. At that point, doctors in the country’s hospitals could still perform the most lifesaving functions by artificially ventilating patients who experienced acute breathing difficulties.

Today, Italy has 10,149 cases of the coronavirus. There are now simply too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care. Doctors and nurses are unable to tend to everybody. They lack machines to ventilate all those gasping for air.

Now the Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care (SIAARTI) has published guidelines for the criteria that doctors and nurses should follow in these extraordinary circumstances. The document begins by likening the moral choices facing Italian doctors to the forms of wartime triage that are required in the field of “catastrophe medicine.” Instead of providing intensive care to all patients who need it, its authors suggest, it may become necessary to follow “the most widely shared criteria regarding distributive justice and the appropriate allocation of limited health resources.”

The principle they settle upon is utilitarian. “Informed by the principle of maximizing benefits for the largest number,” they suggest that “the allocation criteria need to guarantee that those patients with the highest chance of therapeutic success will retain access to intensive care.”

The authors, who are medical doctors, then deduce a set of concrete recommendations for how to manage these impossible choices, including this: “It may become necessary to establish an age limit for access to intensive care.”

#FlattenTheCurve

It will be me and my cat.

That sounds so Frau like, it's scary.

yes, I told you in the other thread, they are just letting the old people die, that's why the numbers are so high.

Is that gonna happen in the USA too?

Paging Frau #2, do you have any more intel?

Wouldn't they know if the Tadlock kid tested positive by now? FISD is always pulling local level Trump tricks to save face-- I don't think I'm sending my little Johnny to school on Monday.

They said the dad wasn't contagious before he was tested, did I read that correctly? How could they say that?

Why do we keep touting ourselves as the finest and most powerful nation in the world?

Someone snatched that crown away a long time ago.

We're all going to have to make changes and sacrifices.

Get used to it.

Every day we're told that we live in the greatest country on earth. And it's always stated as an undeniable fact: Leos are born between July 23 and August 22, fitted queen-size sheets measure sixty by eighty inches, and America is the greatest country on earth.

[quote] Why do we keep touting ourselves as the finest and most powerful nation in the world?

Same reason China, North Korea and even Cuba does it. One would think that at some point you'd get the hint.

My sister, who lives outside of San Diego, just had a baby, and our 76 year old mother wants to fly in from Chicago to visit. I am advising against it, but this is her first grandbaby (she's been waiting for decades). It's so weird- both my sister and her genetic researcher husband are total germaphobes, but they don't want to deny her the visit. So I told them to have our mother wear a mask and gloves during the flight and when visiting.

R239 If she flies over now, she should be prepared for the possibility she might have to stay awhile. If a big outbreak happens, she wouldn't want to be traveling.

So when does the great grocery store stampede begin?

It’s been pretty mild so far, considering.

In the first months of the outbreak, only those having serious symptoms were tested and identified. The mortality rate looked like something in the 3 to 10 percent range. If we knew the true scope of the infections, the mortality rate would most likely drop to flu-like levels. But, we only know the mortality rate out of the small group who have so far been identified as having it.

Yes, r240, I also told them that too. It didn't even cross their minds.

Trump bans flights from mainland Europe, but not UK and Ireland. He does know that someone from France, Spain, Belgium etc can travel to London and flight from there right? Or am I missing something? Against my will I've been reasonably impressed with Boris Johnson's approach so far. He's sticking to the science - no petty blame gaming - and preparing for the shut down, which is probably coming in the next week or so. The budget was announced yesterday, and again there were practical measures to prepare people for what's coming - money for the NHS, help for employers to cover sick pay and a reduction in business rates for small businesses. It goes against the grain for me to give Tories any credit at all, but they are trying to step up a bit.

r241, I was in a grocery store tonight in LA. Not only was it super crowded, there was a tension so thick it was scary. It was as if we were all being excessively polite to each other, just waiting for something to happen...one person to make a run for the door or scream or whatever. I felt like it would have very easily turned into a stampede.

Also, lots of people in the canned food aisle. Pasta too. I stocked up on a few things I normally wouldn't buy...canned soups, rice, peanut butter.

Family of Missouri Woman with Coronavirus Broke Quarantine to Attend School Dance

I will bet anything that these assholes were rich white Evangelical Christians.

If the US has the same infection rate as China, we'll have 21,000 people infected.

If the US has the same infection rate as South Korea, we'll have 70,000 people infected.

If the US has DOUBLE the infection rate of Italy, we'll have 105,000 infected.

Of those infected, 80% will have manageable, mild, or no symptoms.

In other words, come back to reality and stop freaking the fuck out.

What will stop the plague? AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM!

R247

R245 Yes, definitely sensed some tension at the supermarket last night in a Safeway I went to in San Francisco. Not super crowded but more crowded than usual for 8 pm on a Wednesday night. There was even a line for self checkout when there usually wouldn't be. Most things are still in stock, though. Pasta does seem to be most popular with quite a bit of it gone from the shelves.

This situation is like a slow moving train wreck. Most people who didn't follow this virus closely now knows something's up but can't quite grasp what it is yet.

FYI: $40.95 per case

They are not even reporting all confirmed cases here in the US.

My panic is 7. Not enough to get off my ass to do most prepper stuff, but high enough that Internet news and theories have me actually worried about the prospect of many millions dying (whether from inevitably weak immunity, overburdened healthcare, or secondary results).

But until I see more impact, I'll presume its just a rough year (far from 'millions dying').

COVID-19 isn't the most directly infectious thing out there, but it seems its power is in the infected not being symptomatic for so damn long. Real risk of it sneaking up behind us and slamming down hard - suddenly there's thousands of cases in your area, hospitals are overwhelmed, and have to make Italy style decisions to move care to younger patients with higher chance to survive. Yes, most infected will definitely survive, yes 4/5 will have no more than something like a super bad flu and cough, but that's what lets our guard down and spread it to all the people who are much more likely to suffer hard and potentially die.

Cases don't need to explode, to still catch regions unawares. Its actually the creep-up that then take opportunity to later explode into more exponential growth.

My anxiety level is 7 now. I've been calm up to the point whwn Ukranian government anounced quarantine yesterday. Moreover, I'm scared because our Ministry of Helth's employees are under gag order. And, imagine, there's only one confirmed case in Ukraine. Those bitches keep the real information to themselves again, as did they with Chernobyl.

I bought disposable shoe covers from Amazon. That virus is going to be all over floors. As soon as I get to my car I'm putting those on over my shoes. I'm not tracking those germs into my car and house. Then I'll spray the bottom of my shoes with bleach. Never used to be a germaphobe, now I am.

I love this man

R257 Politicians argue while people die... Democracy at work.

Comparing my family’s response to yours r256 - despite saying they are ‘stressed with worry’ about the health of our elderly parents, whom we all visit regularly, my sisters are continuing with their sociable lives as normal. They are early retirees who visit their gyms daily, enjoy long lunches out then head to the cinema or theatre. They do not intend to curtail their activities. Each to their own I guess. Are we all so naturally selfish?

About shoes, I bought rubber rain boots about a month ago. They had some in the garden section at Target. Also Nordstrom Rack has some fancy ones. I’m going to wear them and when I come home, I’ll hose them down. They can be bleached easily and no stitches to catch virus.

I also bought a patio chair to put on the balcony, because if I can’t go out, I want to get some sun. World Market has outdoor rugs on sale right now too. So my kitty and I will be getting some sun together.

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And I am Spaniard, yes, and I live in Madrid, where the things are worst. Government is about to declare quarantine, all business closed except for drug and grocery stores.

There are some people freaking out, like shopping food for a few months kind of freaking out, but thanks God we are not Americans, because I can easily imagine you guys preparing yourselves for Apocalypse.

I have 3 friends with Corona right now, and they are totally OK, is like a strong flu, but they are far from dying. They are young, and of the thousands of people who are already sick, only old people is dying, I think here in Spain only 100 of people have died.

I am absolutely not sfraid lf getting sick, is something that is going to happen sooner or later, so I only hope it happens when it's moore convenient to me, not in holidays or so.

Believe me, is not Ebola, so for Christ sake, breath and stop panicking like a bunch of five year olds.

[quote]I am absolutely not sfraid lf getting sick

That might change when you sober up, dear.

I was grocery shopping yesterday when somebody almost next to me had a sneeze and then an ugly fit of coughing, like her lungs were drowning in her own fluids. I didn't think, held my breath, dropped my grocery basket right there and then and made a bee line to the exit. The store detectives looked at me suspiciously but they couldn't have stopped me to get out and let me breathe outside. Now I kind of developed a sore throat and can't stop thinking about the event.

I know, MARY!!!

Meanwhile our President dramatically announces that he’s closing four of the barn doors and has put in an Amazon order for test kits.

R262 hahahaha sorry. Spanish mobile with Spanish dictionary, but I think it's understandable.

R263, start hydrating and resting now, maybe some warm salt water gargles. Some people swear by zinc and vitamin C to reduce symptoms. If you have it, you want to get a jump start on it. And if you feel worse in the morning, stay home from work.

I'm worrying now simply because it's been so difficult to get toilet paper, paper towels and other essentials. I was well stocked on most things but figured I should get essentials now before students come back (it's a college town and we're in the middle of spring break) but everyone was out of toilet paper, and quite a few food items like Pedialyte and soup too.

We haven't had a Typhoid Mary pun for a thread title on one of these yet, have we?

I stocked up on canned goods a month and a half ago, so I should be okay there.

I have a "cold and flu" kit from the last time I got sick but I tried to add some cold and flu medicine to it and Amazon SAYS it's in stock, but then shipping times are suddenly much greater than what they should be (1-2 weeks out vs. 1-2 days). I ordered it anyway (the Amazon "Basic Care" brand).

I had an outstanding Amazon pantry order that was supposed to be delivered today. It never showed up and isn't even showing as "shipped". I cancelled the order. It had some rice and canned fruit in it. I'm guessing it was the rice that caused it to be postponed. All items showed as in stock when I ordered and should have been here a week ago.

I'm also in the process of moving - next weekend I am supposed to have three movers here packing my stuff and moving it down the road to a new house. I'm concerned that isn't going to happen because of the coronavirus - we had several cases in my city and there are probably a lot more hiding because you couldn't get tested at all until this week.

I wish I could move my move date up.

Trump's #1 ass kisser, Mikey Pence, is as bad of a liar as his president/boss.

When will the lies end?

Meanwhile a Brazilian photographed with the president is currently being tested for coronavirus.

Im concerned about how food distribution will work if US cities are completely shit down. I suspect people won’t wait patiently in their apartments like the Chinese did. There could be social unrest.

I heard something in the news about food distribution after the arrival of the national guard in New Rochelle. Had not realized they were planning food distribution. The containment area around the temple is fairly affluent, with mostly single family homes. But heat happens if this extends to areas where people don’t routinely (even without hoarding) have enough calories on hand for a week or two)? And what about people who work off the books and don’t have income for food without work. What are they going to do after a week of two of quarantine?

My Dominos Pizza experience:

I once ordered a pizza from Dominos and went to pick it up. When I got there, the woman behind the counter told me that it would be done in a few minutes. I waited and in a few minutes, she brought it from the oven, placing it in the box for cutting. As she grabbed the cutting tool, however, the phone rang so she abandoned to task of cutting my pizza to answer the phone and take an order. Meanwhile, as the woman walked to the phone, the delivery driver just happened to walk through the employee entrance at the side. I watched him lay his insulated pizza sleeve and his money bag on the counter next to my uncut pizza, grab the tool, and cut my pizza. He came directly from a delivery, did not wash his hands, and did not put on gloves before cutting my pizza. When I protested, all they said was "I(he) never touched the pizza itself!" I left with no pizza, and I was really hungry, too!

The most detailed breakdown of symptoms of the disease comes from a recent World Health Organization analysis of more than 55,000 confirmed cases in China. Here are the most common symptoms and the percentage of people who had them:

Fever: 88%

Dry cough: 68%

Fatigue: 38%

Coughing up sputum, or thick phlegm, from the lungs: 33%

Shortness of breath: 19%

Bone or joint pain: 15%

Sore throat: 14%

Headache: 14%

Chills: 11%

Nausea or vomiting: 5%

Stuffy nose: 5%

Diarrhea: 4%

Coughing up blood: 1%

Swollen eyes: 1%

(Caveat -- this is from WebMD.)

I just completed three days of jury duty and I survived.

SO FAR!!!

[quote]US cities are completely shit down.

A truth for all times.

Coronavirus Freakout 15: GET THE FLUCK OUTA HEEEEERE!!!!

In times of crisis, Data Lounge can help you crowd source lots of information quickly, information that can save your life. Use it wisely.

Muriel will be using that knowledge to lock this sucker down long and hard in an effort to get the last $1.99 she can squeeze out of you before you trundle off to your rewards. If any.

[quote] sucker down long and hard

Pics please.

THE HILL: Vice President Pence on Thursday confirmed that the coronavirus is more lethal than the flu and predicted that the United States can expect “thousands of more cases.” NBC News’s Savannah Guthrie asked Pence during an appearance on “Today” to confirm that “this is much more lethal than the seasonal flu.”

“It is, Savannah,” Pence responded. When Guthrie asked Pence how many Americans are expected to be infected, the vice president said, “We know there will be thousands of more cases of coronavirus.”

“Thousands or millions?” the “Today” host pressed. “I’ll leave to the experts to make the estimates of how many people will be infected,” Pence said.

[quote]No lie, I just sanitized my door and keys and then went out did the same to the apartment building door. It's only used by two other tenants. I live in a small building and we get zero cleaning services.

Glad I'm not alone r47. Laundered living room drapes yesterday and hung them outside to dry in fresh air. Took tea tree oil and clean thermostat on wall (which I am embarrassed to say has not been cleaned in years); tea treed portable fans, bathroom and bathroom floor, kitchen walls, not to mention daily laundry consisting of clothes, sheets, etc. House has never smelled better. I feel like I'm doing something quasi-productive, calms latent anxiety even though I know the virus will win every time.

Does anyone know if it's possible to sterilize the outside of an N95 mask? Would sitting it out in direct sunlight do anything?

It might give it a tan r282.

[quote]Does anyone know if it's possible to sterilize the outside of an N95 mask? Would sitting it out in direct sunlight do anything?

Jesus Christ, no.

[quote]“Thousands or millions?” the “Today” host pressed. “I’ll leave to the experts to make the estimates of how many people will be infected,” Pence said.

WHAT experts? You fired all the experts.

I hope SNL does a send up of Donny Two Scoop's monotone, robotic, labored breathing CV Oval Office speech last night.

Trump's former Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert:

There’s little value to European travel restrictions. Poor use of time & energy. Earlier, yes. Now, travel restrictions/screening are less useful. We have nearly as much disease here in the US as the countries in Europe. We MUST focus on layered community mitigation measures-Now!

In two weeks, we will regret wasting time and energy on travel restrictions and wish we focused more on hospital preparation and large scale community mitigation.

It doesn't need to be either/or. Let's have travel restrictions AND start setting up MASH units across the country. (Not sure who "lets" is, since anyone who could have done it has been sacked.)

[quote]I just completed three days of jury duty and I survived.

You're braver than I am, r275. I have jury selection scheduled March 30. Not happening! Getting doctor's note. The recording said to be prepared to be there 7- 8 hours. lol lol lol Not Happening!

Hi R234 / FF1, I’m still here. Not much new intel. There’s a petition going around to close FISD. We decided yesterday to pull little Suzi from school and all activities for at least two weeks. At first I wasnt sure if I was overreacting but the response I received was pretty much some combo of “I dont blame you” and “good for you.” We are still trying to decide whether we wait this out in North Texas or go to the countryside where our family has a place. If shit were to really hit the fan, Plano Children’s hospital is excellent so we’re thinking of sticking it out in Frisco. Hope you guys are ok. I’d keep Little Johnny home if I were you.

About the masks. I found this article from back in the H1N1 days. OSHA says you can potentially reuse N95 masks if you wear a normal surgical mask OVER the N95. Or maybe a bandana or such if you don't have any surgical masks. Which will be my plan as things worsen. Partner found a small stash of N95s in our basement leftover from some house repair work. Ordinarily I'd bitch at him for being such a hoarder, but not today!

[quote] ""Employers must address in their respiratory protection program the circumstances under which a disposable respirator will be considered to be contaminated and not available for extended use or reuse," the directive reads. Outpatient facilities and doctor's offices may have particular trouble receiving N95 shipments, so reuse of N95s may be a priority. Educate employees to wear a surgical mask over the N95, wash their hands when donning and doffing the respirator without touching the inside, and store it in a breathable bag, McFarlane says.

[quote]Hi [R234] / FF1, I’m still here. Not much new intel.

Hey there, East Texas.

I get my infusions every eight weeks. Eight weeks ago today on January 16th, I learned about Wuhan. Today I am just sad.

Work has banned all personal travel outside the Tri-State + PA.

I can't read this thread anymore. Too much crazy. I accept there's a lot of fear and mine is so considerable I can't read this thread.

People, please think carefully about what you post. Think about sourcing. Facebook, Twitter, Someone told me tonight ....are any of those really reliable sources of information that you want to put out there?

DL is not a site unknown for making hard distinctions between, for example, onion rings (junk food) and fresh vegetables (preferred.) Maybe you want to ask yourself: is my information onion rings or broccoli?

Good luck, everybody. Stay safe, wash your hands, stay home as much as you can until clarity evolves further. I wish you well, really.

Hey FriscoFraus, FortWorthGay here. Have there been any reports of it spreading beyond the one family? My business causes me to be in Frisco/Plano occasionally. Just want to know where, if any place, I need to avoid.. Our one case over here turns out to be an Episcopal priest who caught it at some church conference in Kentucky.

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Thanks so much info about the laundry soap, masks, vitamins. Thank you DL! A lot of good info on here! I've been posting since thread 1.

Hi R295 / FortWorthGay, no new formally reported cases in Frisco other than the one family near Tadlock. On the news last night they said 7 official cases in North Texas - the priest in FW, 3 people in Dallas County and the 3 in Frisco (Collin County). Of course there are probably tons more that have not been tested. Hope you stay safe and healthy.

I think there will be anarchy in the UK when they ban football matches. it's already happening in other countries...

Bloomberg News: Patients with the new coronavirus keep the pathogen in their respiratory tract for as long as 37 days, a new study found, suggesting they could remain infectious for many weeks.

In yet another sign of how difficult the pandemic may be to contain, doctors in China detected the virus’s RNA in respiratory samples from survivors for a median of 20 days after they became infected, they wrote in an article published in the Lancet medical journal.

Currently, the recommended isolation period after exposure is 14 days to avoid spreading the virus. But if people remain contagious long after their symptoms have vanished, they may unwittingly propagate the pathogen after they return from quarantine.

By comparison, only a third of patients with SARS still harbored the virus in their respiratory tract after as long as four weeks, the Chinese scientists said.

The UK should get a Currie, Junior Minister for Health, to come back to handle Coronavirus. Oh, my yes, she made such a fine mess of the salmonella outbreak in the late 1980s and of Mad Cow (!!!)

If the UK wants to really fuck up its obligations to the public for coronavirus, then get a back. She will lead the way!

R299, they can just lower the price of lager and everything will be fine in the UK.

A Facebook friend of mine recommended that if you're looking for an alternative way to gauge if you've washed your hands for long enough, you perform Julia Sugarbaker's "the night the lights went out in Georgia" monolog with Dixie Carter's cadence.

I have cut and pasted excerpt from Washington Post on subject of "layoffs." Frightening. Link below. Note: I was able to access the article using Incognito feature on Google. The link I pasted is behind a paywall, unfortunately.

[bold]“The layoffs are already happening,” she said. “Most of these are last-hired, first-fired situations, but I’m really seeing it pick up this week in big cities: Atlanta, New York, Chicago.”

The travel industry layoffs reached Alex Brown, who was shocked at how quickly it all happened. Brown made $12 an hour overseeing marketing for a boutique travel agency in Atlanta. She learned on Monday she was being laid off because of nosediving sales and a falling stock market. Her boss told her he would get in touch “when this all blows over.”

“Even with that, I really wasn’t expecting to get laid off so soon,” she said.

Brown, 22, is not sure where to find new work. She emailed her former manager at an upscale restaurant and plans to talk to her boss at a gelato shop, where she works one shift a week, to see whether she can get more hours. She is afraid those places will be struggling soon, too.

“I don’t even know where I should be looking,” Brown said. “Which businesses are actually going to be hiring long-term for this strange year ahead of us? Everyone is cutting back.”

this is one of those moments where I just cannot fucking believe this is actually who our president is.

Study suggests number of cases could have been cut by 66% if China had acted a week earlier.

Sophisticated modelling of the outbreak suggests that China had 114,325 cases by the end of February 2020, a figure that would have been 67 times higher without interventions such as early detection, isolation of the infected, and travel restrictions.

But if the interventions could have been brought in a week earlier, 66% fewer people would have been infected, the analysis found. The same measures brought in three weeks earlier could have reduced cases by 95%.

It's time for the 25th Amendment to be invoked.

It's been time. But the bootlicks won't do it.

I must have all the so-called "onion ring" posters blocked, because I'm not seeing a lot of misinformation posted on DL, r294.

The 25th Amendment has no application here. So forget about it.

The US stock market has been halted again for 15 minutes due to massive selling. Very happy that I got out a few years ago

So my dinosaur company only updated its daily coronavirus message this morning to include Trump's usesless so-called ban. Still having people go into offices, still holding client in person meetings and still flying employees all the country. Why should I be surprised. This is Silicon Valley companies have blown past us in the last couple of decades. We have hundreds of thousands of employees around the world and 99% get all our work done on laptops. Yet, company hasn't even mentioned work from home except for those in a handful of affected areas (Seattle, Westchester, ect).

very happy I was never in it.

Stay safe r255. I'm starting to feel the anxiety a bit as well.

I see those fashion insta influencers who came back from europe but not staying home for 14 days, they are out and about in NYC. fucking cunts!!!

NBA owner, Mark Cuban says hourly employees at the American Airlines Center will be paid for next four (4) Mavs games that were scheduled to be played "as if they worked"=============

Nice gesture.

Oh, it's Richard Quest on CNN. I haven't seen him in a while.

Just be smart guys.

Wash your hands, spend time alone, get a stock of basic supplies but don't go crazy.

As much as we're a bunch of catty bitches, if the 19 years I've been around here are any indication, we're also a gestalt that is REALLY good in a crisis.

JetBlue plane flew from New York to Florida with passenger who tested positive for COVID-19 (!!!this cunt should be jailed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

By: WPTV Staff A witness says it seems the passenger knew he had coronavirus, but still boarded the plane anyway. JetBlue plane flew from New York to Florida with passenger who tested positive for COVID-19

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A passenger aboard a JetBlue flight arrived at Palm Beach International Airport (PBIA) as a positive coronavirus case, Palm Beach Fire Rescue (PBFR) said early Thursday morning.

Flight 253 from New York JFK landed in Palm Beach at 8:53 p.m. local time, but the plane remained on the tarmac instead of proceeding to gate C12. Passengers departed the aircraft around 10:45 p.m.

"The person across the way from me was taken to the back of the plane. He was wearing masks and gloves. His wife was sitting in the same row as me and mentioned to others that he wasn't feeling well. She said he had gotten a phone call with his test results right before we had taken off, implying that he had a positive test but not actually saying it," said passenger Scott Rodman.

PBFR said the State Health Department in Palm Beach County completed its assessment of the situation and spoken with all passengers aboard the flight.

In addition, passengers in the vicinity of the unidentified COVID-19 positive patient were advised of monitoring procedures.

Remaining passengers were released and given directions by Dr. Alina Alonso, the health director in Palm Beach County, to call the health department with any concerns.

PBIA is sterilizing the limited-containment area where the passengers deplaned, which was a separate location from the main terminals of the airport.

PBFR said crews first responded to a medical incident aboard the plane at 8:40 p.m.

In addition, passengers in the vicinity of the unidentified COVID-19 positive patient were advised of monitoring procedures.

Remaining passengers were released and given directions by Dr. Alina Alonso, the health director in Palm Beach County, to call the health department with any concerns.

Last night's speech should have been about comprehensive social distancing and testing--actual plan for a health pandemic. But Trump wanted to prop up his ratings and the stock market. Will the market is diving anyway. Would a transparent health plan made it any worse?

Another Italian soccer player is positive-

BREAKING: #Sampdoria confirm Manolo Gabbiadini has tested positive for #Coronavirus

This contagion may help smooth the way to a comprehensive national health insurance plan for Americans. Let's hope so.

CDCgov: Join CDC for a Twitter Q&A on #COVID19. CDC Deputy Director for Infectious Diseases, Dr. Jay Butler, will answer questions about coronavirus this Friday, March 13. Join us on Twitter to ask your question now:

R391 What a fucking cunt! I can't wait to hear the excuse for why he just HAD to catch his flight to Florida. Fucking cunt.

Did you guys hear that the Republicans in the Senate blocked sick leave for working people people but plan bail outs for companies? Is this true?

[quote]This contagion may help smooth the way to a comprehensive national health insurance plan for Americans.

I expect we'll spend so much money propping up banks, airlines and other multinational conglomerates that we'll be told there's nothing left to help make everyday Americans' lives better.

If Americans demand it vociferously, then elected politicians will respond.

[quote]If Americans demand it vociferously, then elected politicians will respond.

Snerk.

They should just let the cruise ship industry collapse! Who is even going on those fucking things? before this virus, you always hear the whole ship got sick coz of the food, hundreds came down with stomach flu or some bug...

I went in to work this morning fully expecting to be told those of us who can work from home should do so. No such message. So I went to my boss to tell him I would like myself and my team that I supervise to work from home starting tomorrow -- and he was like "let me find out first if we can get approval"!

⏳CORONA TIME 10:30 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 129,604

DEATHS: 4,749

CRITICAL: 5,711

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 1,364

DEATHS: 38

CRITICAL: 10

WaPo: Iran's coronavirus burial pits are so vast they're visible from space.

Two days after Iran declared its first cases of the novel coronavirus — in what would become one of the largest outbreaks of the illness outside of China — evidence of unusual activity appeared at a cemetery near where the infections emerged.

At the Behesht-e Masoumeh complex in Qom, about 80 miles south of Tehran, the excavation of a new section of the graveyard began as early as Feb. 21, satellite images show, and then rapidly expanded as the virus spread. By the end of the month, two large trenches — their lengths totaling 100 yards — were visible at the site from space.

According to expert analysis, video testimony and official statements, the graves were dug to accommodate the rising number of virus victims in Qom.

The majority of Americans want some form of universal healthcare. The majority of the Americans want more gun control.

The majority of our politicians ignore what Americans want. And they get away with it! We keep voting for them.

This crisis will show the only way a country can combat a health pandemic is with universal health care. But America still won't do anything about it.

R332, omg. i thought cremation of the body is strictly forbidden in Islam?

Princess Cruises finally halts operations. My cruise is officially cancelled.

oh, my mistake. I thought they were burning bodies like in China. Just burying them in Iran, I see.

My mom had been guilt tripping me into taking her on a first cruise. I was looking into short one in May or September. So glad I never booked.

[quote]Princess Cruises finally halts operations. My cruise is officially cancelled.

Imagine how many underpaid ship staffers will have to go without a paycheck for two months (at least).

R247, the US will be worse off than any of those because it's acted too late.

Same here, R335. I received an email from Princess a few minutes ago canceling my cruise scheduled for early May.

Yes, R338. And they will have to do it in whatever port their ship is docked when this decision is made. The odds are great it will not be their home country. Nor will they have lodging, as theirs was on the ship that is now closing. Those folks are going to have a rough ride ahead of them.

[quote]Funny how a simple microorganism is enough to show the world the illusion of capitalism. All the fantasy crumbling down. Will people learn?

The Bernie Bros make everything about capitalism, so of course if Bernie were only president ….

Nancy Pelosi on CNN Now!!

Sen. Tom Cotton apparently wants to go to war over the virus: "We will emerge stronger from this challenge, we will hold accountable those who inflicted it on the world." Tax cuts and bombs, the Repug answer to every problem.

[quote]I bought disposable shoe covers from Amazon. That virus is going to be all over floors. As soon as I get to my car I'm putting those on over my shoes. I'm not tracking those germs into my car and house. Then I'll spray the bottom of my shoes with bleach. Never used to be a germaphobe, now I am.

Why the hell are you wearing your shoes in your house??!? Disgusting! You track all sorts of germs on the streets.

[quote]Yes, [R338]. And they will have to do it in whatever port their ship is docked when this decision is made. The odds are great it will not be their home country. Nor will they have lodging, as theirs was on the ship that is now closing. Those folks are going to have a rough ride ahead of them.

There's no reason why they can't stay aboard the ships. A lot of Carnival's fleet was used as emergency FEMA housing after Katrina, and going back as far as Hurricane Andrew, one of their ships was even used as housing for corporate office workers who were displaced.

[quote]Imagine how many underpaid ship staffers will have to go without a paycheck for two months (at least).

That was my first thought, my heart goes out to the staff. I’m kind of in the same boat. I work in a hotel in a major American city and my hours have been drastically slashed because of record low occupancy.

The pandemic has fucked up my professional and personal life, but hey, I’m still here, alive.

[quote] Why the hell are you wearing your shoes in your house??!? Disgusting! You track all sorts of germs on the streets.

Yes, and then we develop immunity to those germs. Immunity you won't have. So for all your trouble, YOU'RE GONNA DIE!!!

Is wearing shoes in the house an American thing?

Reuters: China, where the disease originated, said its epidemic had peaked and the global spread could be over by June if other nations applied similarly aggressive containment measures as Beijing’s communist government.

The Chinese government’s senior medical adviser, Zhong Nanshan, an 83-year-old epidemiologist renowned for helping combat the SARS outbreak in 2003, said the crisis could be over by mid-year.

“If all countries could get mobilized, it could be over by June,” he said. “But if some countries do not treat the infectiousness and harmfulness seriously, and intervene strongly, it would last longer.”

(So I guess America is screwed.)

you're a hotel worker, aren't you in a union?

It’s a white people thing.

It’s a white people thing.

[quote]When will the lies end?

When they're dead, R270.

[quote]“But if some countries do not treat the infectiousness and harmfulness seriously, and intervene strongly, it would last longer.”

Then he gave two knowing winks to the camera.

Just saw a report on CNBC about Chinese workers going back to office to work, not all of them are but they are sitting far apart, keeping windows open (air circulation), provide a box of items for them like mask, hand sanitizer etc.

A friend at a Toronto hotel saw 65 bookings cancelled yesterday.

Did they offer refunds R335 & R340? I'm waiting for my cruise to be cancelled. I'm fine with a credit for a future cruise, but I'd rather just have a refund.

[QUOTE] There's no reason why they can't stay aboard the ships.

We don't really know that. Katrina did not involve viral contagion. And FEMA undoubtedly paid a lot of money for that lodging. Here, the ships are being taken of service because there is a problem with paying customers.

A cruise ship that is losing money is not a good candidate to be up and running. While a certain amount of staff will be needed to maintain the ship during a furlough, there is no way a cruise line is going to pay to house actors and musicians and waiters and chambermaids and on and on and on.

yes, it's easy for China, it's hard in the USA, you have infected people boarding planes, attending big gatherings despite being on quarantines etc...

Why haven't they been punished? You know they would already have been executed in China or N.Korea.

[quote]What's with the obese thing being higher risk? I'm fat, but I'm in good health with no underlying medical issues, 50 yrs old.

Obesity is a risk factor for getting complications from the flu.

Coronavirus isn't the flu and it's a new virus, so we don't know if obesity is a risk factor for it specifically, but one could assume.

We should eat everything in sight, because food sources may perhaps be eventually cut off.

Yes, R358. They're offering credit for a future cruise or a refund. Right now they're suspending service for 60 days. My cruise was scheduled for the first week of May.

Just a small note about Tom Hanks. I thought I saw a photo of him and his wife in Greece (?) about 2 weeks or 3 weeks ago? It was recent. So when I saw they "got the virus in Australia" I immediately remembered the photo of the two of them strolling on a boardwalk. Likely, they got it in Europe I am guessing, and not Australia. Anyway, thought I'd mention that if it hasn't been mentioned already. No doubt "contact tracing" on the Hanks in Australia will reveal this.

R195. If you read the report, pages 12 and13 I think, you will see that thé WHO definition of mild to moderate includes pneumonia ( as long as it can be managed at home.)

I think I found an article attesting to Hanks in Greece around March 5.

R366, they were staying in the same hotel in Australia where another person tested positive (one of the first in that country).

China shut Wuhan down (barricaded roads, cut off all trains and flights) with only 450 known cases. The US is beyond saving at this point.

I can't believe we have inept orange turd at the worst of time! I wish we still had Obama or even fucking dumb cunt Bush...

[quote]The US is beyond saving at this point.

Ridiculous hyperbole from a pathetic troll.

Watching a CNN reporter sticking a microphone into the faces of multiple interviewees at an airport. Then he stuck back in his face to wrap up his report.

[quote]read the reports coming out of Italy and Iran. People in their 20s, 30s, and 40s are succumbing to pneumonia

No one in Italy under 50 has succumbed to the virus at all. Not a single fatality as of yet. Very few in the 50-69 range.

Linking to Reddit because they translated the article, but it links to the original.

[quote]Is wearing shoes in the house an American thing?

An American thing and a filthy slob thing. Lots of overlap.

R372, that's because they are saving all the young people and letting the old ones die...

R370, Anyone paying attention and doing the math knows what's coming. If calling me a troll makes you feel better, have at it.

2nd Utah Jazz player test positive. He is Donovan Mitchell .

What do you get out of spreading conspiracy theories during a pandemic, R374?

Italian hospitals have not begun to use triage, the articles out in the last couple of days have merely been talking about what might happen in the future. And the triage criteria are not entirely age based, anyway.

I get that you don't give a shit or feel that knowledge is important, but maybe bow out of this discussion if you're just going to shitpost and waste time.

National Guard will be on the streets soon...and all those troops coming back from the middle east? Just in time! They gonna be patrolling the street soon!

R377, that is an account from an italian doctor! They are already doing it.

Should libraries be burned, to stop the trading of books?

Are audiobooks safer?

R377, that italian doctor said, if you're 65, forget about tubing and etc, you're not even assessed.

CNN reporting Brazilian official has CV after meeting Trump.

Due to crappy eyesight, I switched over to e and audio books years ago. Library e-lending is a fantastic resource.

[quote]National Guard will be on the streets soon...and all those troops coming back from the middle east? Just in time! They gonna be patrolling the street soon!

Oh great, I pay attention to you for two seconds because of your fearmongering about doctors "letting all the old people die" and now you're talking military invasion.

I was right when I said earlier I must have had the crazies on ignore. I took you off ignore and suddenly the thread was full of fearmongering, misinformation and banality. Back into the ignored pile you go, dear.

CNN reporting: POTUS has still not being testes. But news of Brazilian official who met with Trump last weekend will put pressure on POTUS to test himself.

Yikes. TESTED. Not Testes. Although this is DL!....^^^^^

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R351 most of the hotels in my city, including mine, are non union.

DM Headline: Desperate Americans spark 'bedlam' at European airports: Fliers pay up to [bold]$20,000 for flights from Paris to get back home before Trump's travel ban kicks in

The National Guards are already in NY state. We're taking it seriously. Maybe other states will soon follow! They are helping with cleaning and distributing food to those who are in quarantine! It's not a bad thing that National Guards are deployed...

They are helping out!

[quote]pressure on POTUS to test himself

He's sure to be as open about his Covid-19 status as about all his tax affairs.

Which, we may recall, he considers makes him 'smart.'

I'm finding all the whining about deliveries and talk about shitty frozen desserts honestly comforting. The end is obviously not nigh if we're using it as an excuse to carb-load. Never change, DL.

CNN-This is why Germany can't impose nationwide bans like other European countries

While Italy imposes a nationwide lockdown, and Ireland announces school suspensions, blanket bans aren't quite so simple in fellow European country Germany.

Essentially, German chancellor Angela Merkel does not have the sweeping power to close down large parts of public life across the entire country.

Germany is a federal state. So when it comes to political decisions like canceling public events, closing down schools or implement new health regulations, those are taken at state level.

Merkel and her national ministers can only make recommendations. Over the last few days, Germany’s Health Minister, Jens Spahn, has repeatedly recommended canceling mass public gatherings with over 1,000 people.

Some of Germany’s hardest-hit regions have implemented this ban already — but not all of them have. The same goes for the closure of schools and universities. Some have been shut, while others continue to operate.

Fortunately, I found some year-old ground beef in the freezer. No worries about needing to break my diet...

Yet.

Social unrest and breakdown scares me just as much or more than the virus.

CNN-House Speaker Pelosi says coronavirus bill will be up for vote today

I went to Mount Vernon’s restaurant last evening to meet a relative. It was full and busy. There were tables of spring breakers nearby. The northern Virginia traffic is worse than ever, probably because no one wants to take public transportation.

R295/FortWorthGay,

Avoid this area, including Plano. I'm guessing Collin county & Denton county are about to become a big red zone in the coming week, with all these grade-schoolers having gone to camp, the Y, QuikTrip, etc. before the email from the school district was sent out saying there was a family with a member who tested positive.

Sit tight in Ft. Worth for a few days, by this time next week your colleagues probably won't bother asking you to meet up here.

The grade-schooler child of the guy who tested positive-- that kid's test came back "inconclusive" a couple days ago, and they retested. We have not heard anything from the city or school district about the retest results, but surely they'd have them by now. I suspect the test came back positive and they're trying to figure out how to spin it as they wait for the kid's contacts to be tested. There are 63,000 kids in the Frisco school system alone, and they go all over Texas and beyond when there's a break.

Also, whomever the city official was who released the statement about the family-in-question sounded like a deplorable straight from Nextdoor, saying the guy wasn't contagious when he was cavorting about, and the potentially-positive kids never posed a risk to the school, etc. So the ignorance of our officials and the continuing willful ignorance of this whole goddamned town, in an attempt to save face and look "tough" is only going to compound the disaster, much as it is unfolding on a national scale.

Pelosi says people should also refrain from elbow bumping.

"Forget any physical contact, greetings. Bow in an Eastern style."

CNN-Italian cardiologist says surgical department has been shut down to make room for coronavirus patients

The head of an Italian cardiac surgery department said the coronavirus outbreak has forced his department to suspend operations to make room for coronavirus patients.

Dr. Lorenzo A. Menicanti, the head of cardiac surgery department at IRCCS Policlinico San Donato in Milan, told CNN's Becky Anderson cardiac surgery has been "completely shut down" — except for pediatric cases.

"The big, big issue is the cardiac surgery for adults. It is completely shut down," he said.

"So it's really an uneasy situation for us, for the patient, for the hospital, because to stop so large a program of cardiac surgery is really difficult because we have to think that after that we have to reopen all things and sometimes not so evident."

Big jump in #coronavirus cases in UK. Up 134 to 590.

So smart of Trump to leave them off the travel ban.

CNN:

US coronavirus cases: a state-by-state breakdown

‘If I’m Going to Get Sick and Die, I Might as Well Do It at Disney World’

Even as demand for flights and cruises has fallen, travel agents who plan trips to Disney parks report that business is as high as usual, if not higher. Visitors to Disney World and Universal Studios in Orlando last week said that they felt safe at the parks and weren’t going to allow fear to force them to cancel their vacations.

At Disney World on Friday, thousands of people filed into the Magic Kingdom, the most visited park there, as usual. Although guests had to press a touch-screen scanner for their fingerprint to enter the park, and put their bags into bins for a security guard to look through, hand sanitizer dispensers at the entrance were not within an arm’s reach, but a few feet away. Few guests had masks on.

“Me and my husband have been monitoring things, but didn’t feel like we needed to cancel our plans,” she said. “We have wipes, we have hand sanitizer, we aren’t elderly and honestly, if you’re going to get it, you’re going to get it. If I’m going to get sick and die, I might as well do it at Disney World.”

Trump just told the press that he has an upcoming "sold out" rally in Florida.

At the same time, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) urged local officials to "strongly consider limiting or postponing mass gatherings."

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CNN-Oregon governor orders all events of more than 250 people canceled statewide

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown announced at a news conference Thursday that all large gatherings of more than 250 people will be canceled statewide effective immediately for four weeks in an attempt to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus.

Oregon health officials have previously recommend keeping schools open to support students’ well-being and access to health care and food, but Brown announced Thursday that all non-essential school-associated gatherings and group activities should be canceled — such as group parent meetings, field trips, and competitions.

I'm waiting on a job offer letter that I was told will be after their Board of Directors meets tomorrow to approve the position.

Now I'm terrified they're going to put a hold on it with the economy tanking. I've been unemployed for over a year and this is the only offer I've had during that time.

If they put on hold I don't know what I'll do.

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Atlantis Events is allowing people to cancel their cruise and apply it to a future cruise. I think before long they will just refund EVERYONE their money.

Two days after Iran declared its first cases of the novel coronavirus — in what would become one of the largest outbreaks of the illness outside of China — evidence of unusual activity appeared at a cemetery near where the infections emerged.

At the Behesht-e Masoumeh complex in Qom, about 80 miles south of Tehran, the excavation of a new section of the graveyard began as early as Feb. 21, satellite images show, and then rapidly expanded as the virus spread. By the end of the month, two large trenches — their lengths totaling 100 yards — were visible at the site from space.

-WaPo and i cant link

R407, I hope you will hear good news from them very soon! Don't give up, keep looking!

FF1, just wanted to say you’re smart and I also appreciate your derision for the Deplorables on Nextdoor. They’re something else. I always shake my head when I see the ads on Nextdoor for “Deplorable Happy Hour” in Frisco.

CNN-CDC says cost of coronavirus treatment will be covered

Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said the cost of testing and treatment will be covered.

During Thursday’s House Oversight committee hearing on novel coronavirus, Rep. Ayanna Pressley asked Redfield, "will the cost of testing be covered,” Redfield responded, "the cost of testing will be covered.”

Following up, Pressley asked, "and what about treatment?" Redfield said, "cost of treatment will be covered."

Redfield said the White House Coronavirus Task Force is working hard to make sure everyone is financially able to stay home if necessary during the coronavirus outbreak.

He said the task force has "addressed this as a critical public health component,” adding the United States needs to ensure those under a 14-day quarantine “not have to sneak out for an hourly job so they have to pay for their cost of living."

I truly believe peak Trump is over. He and his people look so incompetent. Joe is looking solid. I think there will be a majority come November who say enough.

Well, Joe is speaking about it in about fifteen minutes.

In Ontario, I wrote to the health minister this morning. I never write. I said get off your ass and get moving on social distancing measures while we've still got a low illness count.

And our idiot Trumpy premier said he wants everybody to go on March break holidays and have a good time.

I'd say they just lost re-election.

Sen. Durbin: Trump Should Declare National State Of Emergency | Morning Joe | MSNBC

[quote]WaPo and i cant link

It's summarized and linked at R332.

R417 does that mean we'd have martial law? Wouldn't that be convenient for Trump's dictatorial aspirations.

Justin Trudeau’s wife has tested positive and has a low fever.

Concerning the N95 mask, it has a shelf life of 5 years so you need to check the expiration date.

R417 Marshall law!

Reuters:

Coronavirus pandemic "over by June" if countries act, says Chinese adviser

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[quote]Trump just told the press that he has an upcoming "sold out" rally in Florida.

[quote]At the same time, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) urged local officials to "strongly consider limiting or postponing mass gatherings."

Because Trump's showbiz numbers are all that really matter at a time like this. If it goes ahead, it's bound to plumb deep new depths in the surreal grotesque.

For example, just waiting for him to say that anyone there who tests positive is a special patriot for wanting to MAGA. Like a battle casualty.

Just the chance though that his berserk rhetoric finally goes too far this time and can't ever be walked back. I know, but we can dream.

r256- do as the Asians do and take your shoes off at the entrance and put on house shoes or flip flops.

I said yesterday I thought Trump would end up declaring martial law in a few weeks and that is when it’s gonna get real ugly. I really hope I am wrong. I am much more scared of Trump declaring martial law than I am corona.

I said that too as well as many others R427.

In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement [bold]without congressional approval.[/bold]

What makes you think Trump would suddenly start obeying Congressional oversight?

NYT:

Coronavirus in N.Y.: Desperate for a Test, They Couldn’t Get One

Today on FB from my friend in Barcelona:

My friends back in states, the situation here in Spain is getting worse by the day. As of today our business is closed and we are stocked up on food and staying home. The military are setting up field hospitals in the hard hit areas. We’re likely to top 1000 new cases here just today. Seems certain an Italy style lockdown is coming. If the Spanish government is smart. The U.S. has fumbled the ball so far. Take this seriously. Don’t wait any longer to do what you need to keep you and your family as safe as possible. It’s not just the flu.

MSNBC has a coronavirus special edition on right now. Taking questions from viewers and a panel of health experts.

Including one HOT DADDY named Joseph Fair, who I want in me quite deeply.

Who's had him??

Florida Senator and part-time Lord Voldemort impersonator Rick Scott has also decided to self-quarantine.

Colbert:

Daily Life Is Changing For Millions Of Americans As Coronavirus Crisis Grows

The Senate just cancelled its recess next week.

At least the Frisco Frau's Madysyn and Jaedyn got to go to camp and QuikTrip. How Facebook-worthy!

#DallasGAY!

...but they had to be shamed into it.

California Governor has an emergency broadcast: 198 cases, more than 8000 tests available, they are at capacity for testing, and have to outsource for testing.

Here's Joe Biden, acting more presidential than the current occupant.

Also, someone from the previous thread suggested as a thread title, "No Country For Old Men", which was genius.

SBNation:

NHL Suspends Season In The Wake Of The Coronavirus Pandemic

U.S. Unprepared For Expected Explosion In Coronavirus Cases | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

I know the DL vox populi would probably just dismiss her as a Karen, but Congresswoman Katie Porter is fucking amazing.

0:34 / 4:27 Coronavirus Spread Threatens To Overwhelm US Hospital Capacity | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Lawrence And Rachel On The NBA Suspending Their Season Due To Coronavirus | The Last Word | MSNBC

According to Reuters:

The death toll from an outbreak of coronavirus in Italy has jumped in the last 24 hours by 189 to 1,016, a rise of 23%, the Civil Protection Agency said on Thursday.

The total number of cases in Italy, the European country hardest hit by the virus, rose to 15,113 from a previous 12,462, an increase of 21.7%. That marked the biggest daily rise in absolute terms since the contagion first came to light on Feb. 21.

The agency said that, of those originally infected, 1,258 had fully recovered compared to 1,045 the day before. Some 1,153 people were in intensive care against a previous 1,028.

I've been posting about my local Target, Walmart and grocery store. Sadly, the panic buying has hit those stores. Target and my local grocery store are out of toilet paper and hand sanitizer. I haven't been to Walmart today. I can say I haven't seen Target this busy, even on weekends. Strangely I didn't see people stocking up on food. I stocked up on food. I now have enough food for 2 months. I'm going to get extra dog food so my girl has at least 2 months worth of food.

2m ago 18:15 - Guardian

There has been a rise in confirmed coronavirus cases in Greece where the number has jumped from 99 to 117, Helena Smith reports from Athens.

Revealing the increase the health ministry spokesman, Sotiris Tsiodras, an expert in infectious diseases, said while 107 of the cases had been traced, 10 were of unknown origin.

I haven't seen this discussed, but what about all the undocumented workers who clean, cook (in CA, they are virtually all the cleaning crews/housekeeping & cooks in restaurants), work in agriculture (pick all the produce), work in the garment industry, and do construction for us?

It's not likely that they're going to go to hospitals when they get sick. Man, this sucks.

HOLY SHIT. Broadway theatres to close.

This is huge.

HOLY SHIT.

Broadway theatres to close.

This is huge.

Sorry for double post. DL acting up.

I live in a big city and I went grocery shopping just enough to not have to leave the house for a couple of weeks or so, including buying extra cat food for my cats and an extra 6-pack of paper towels and a little extra coffee and creamer, two days ago. There was not a lot of panic buying happening but there was a lot of smirking at my cart. It wasn't even full to the brim or anything. I wonder what those people will be smirking at in 2 weeks.

Don Beyer, a House Democrat from NoVa, is under self-quarantine. He wants to get tested but can't...because there are no tests.

Living in the sticks has it's advantages. No crowds.

I really hope Ted Cruz, who is under self quarantine, dies from it. Choking on his own phlegm.

The Met museum and other cultural institutions in NYC announced they are closing temporarily while this plays out.

Shit is getting REAL.

What's currently driving me crazy about CV are the informational memes of what to sing or recite while washing your hands, to make sure you're washing them long enough.

WTF is so hard about counting to 20?

I've timed myself counting to 20 R459 and some times I'm over 20 seconds and other times I am under 20 seconds. I have a clock so I just watch the second hand.

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1-Mississippi...2-Mississippi...3....

2 min ago - CNN

Bernie Sanders calls for Trump to declare a national emergency Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders said today that it's time for President Trump to declare a national emergency due to the coronavirus pandemic.

He also criticized the President, calling him "incompetent."

NHL season has been cancelled

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Israel will close its schools and universities for five weeks to prevent the spread of coronavirus, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced Thursday evening.

Schools will close immediately and will remain closed until after the annual Passover holiday, which concludes on April 16. The new directive does not include kindergartens, boarding schools, special education classes, and schools for at-risk youth.

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Major League Baseball (MLB) has announced that the start of the season will be delayed by at least two weeks and has canceled the remaining Spring Training schedule.

The MLB season was set to start on March 26.

"Nothing is more important to us than the health and safety of our players, employees and fans. MLB will continue to undertake the precautions and best practices recommended by public health experts. We send our best wishes to all individuals and communities that have been impacted by coronavirus," the MLB said in a statement.

21 min ago - CNN. 800 new cases since yesterday. This is getting so bad now

Germany’s coronavirus cases rise by 802 new patients From CNN's Lindsay Isaac

Germany has seen a sharp rise in coronavirus cases in the past 24 hours rising by 802 to 2,369 cases, the Koch Institute for Infectious Diseases said on Thursday.

This includes five deaths since the outbreak began.

On the plus side:

Nation's Nerds Wake Up In Utopia Where Everyone Stays Inside, Sports Are Canceled, Social Interaction Forbidden

U.S.—The nation's nerds woke up in a utopia this morning, one where everyone stays inside, sporting events are being canceled, and all social interaction is forbidden.

All types of nerds, from social introverts to hardcore PC gamers, welcomed the dawn of this new era, privately from their own homes.

"I have been waiting my whole life for this moment," said Ned Pendleton, 32 -- via text message, of course -- as he fired up League of Legends on his beefy gaming PC. "They told me to take up a sport and that the kids playing basketball and stuff were gonna be way more successful than us nerds who played Counter-Strike at LAN parties every weekend."

"They all laughed at me. Well, who's laughing now?"

To prepare for the onslaught of the deadly disease, nerds are changing absolutely nothing and are expected to rise up to rule the post-Coronavirus society, as they are the ones best adjusted to being sheltered in a basement, garage, or room for many days at a time marathoning Halo, Half-Life, The Legend of Zelda, Red Dead Redemption, or Horizon Zero Dawn. They're also ready for any post-apocalyptic wasteland, as they've played many, many hours of Fallout and are adept at killing bloatflies and collecting bottlecaps.

Of course, many nerds are running out of hygienic products, but they say that's "not an issue."

Hot mic before the Presidential address! Tee hee

3 min ago - CNN.

Large-scale concerts and events postponed through the end of March From CNN's Stephanie Elam

Live entertainment organizers are collectively postponing concerts and other events through the end of March. This includes concerts presented by Live Nation, AEG and talent agency Elite.

Part Deux

Fortunately, organizations in the US are taking helpful actions unlike the totally useless administration

If we're going to be stocking up on pasta, will we be permitted to drain it in the light of current crisis?

r473 - Yes

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Was at the WeHo Trader Joe's- the pasta and oatmeal is WIPED OUT. Plenty of canned tuna though.

Also: shampoo is a handy substitute for soap. And it comes in larger quantities.

Ohio State Capital reporter Tyler Buchanan:

Ohio Health Dept. Director Amy Acton is saying that evidence of community spread indicates that 1% of Ohioans are currently carrying coronavirus. That's *117,000* people.

Only 5 in Ohio have actually tested positive to this point.

Acton just concluded the press conference by saying the worst case scenario is 40-70% of Ohioans (4.7-8.2 million) may end up carrying the virus.

95 cases in NYC. mayor holding news conference now. 25 in manhattan, 25 or 24 in brooklyn, some in queens and 4 in staten island. sorry I don't remember all the numbers.

17 in Queens.

I went to whole foods today in midtown manhattan, it was madhouse, everything is gone from shelves, line to check out wrapped around the store...

then i went to morten williams nearby, it was also crazy. I've never seen it this busy in, not even through the hurricanes etc. lines were so long.

Also stopped by home depot in midtown, still have lots of paper towels and toilet paper. many employees wearing gloves.

thankfully, i've already stocked up on all my favorite snacks, food, beer, red wine. I should be OK if anything bad happens. I hope not!

So many people were wearing surgical masks, gloves on the streets, doormen were all wearing gloves as well.

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Trump's coronavirus address causes confusion 2:23 LIVE UPDATES US coronavirus travel ban hits 26 European countries By Jessie Yeung, Adam Renton, Sheena McKenzie and Meg Wagner, CNN

Updated 4:20 p.m. ET, March 12, 2020 What you need to know US suspends travel from Europe: Trump canceled travel from 26 European countries to the US for the next 30 days, beginning Friday at midnight. Markets: US stocks just plummeted for the second straight day. Send us your questions and stories: Do you have a question about coronavirus or a story about the outbreak? Share them here. Stay updated: Our coronavirus newsletter. The Coronavirus: Fact vs Fiction podcast. Alerts on the pandemic in the CNN app.

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NCAA cancels March Madness The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) has announced that the annual Division I men’s and women’s basketball tournaments have been canceled due to coronavirus concerns.

Here's what the NCAA said in a statement:

"Today, NCAA President Mark Emmert and the Board of Governors canceled the Division I men’s and women’s 2020 basketball tournaments, as well as all remaining winter and spring NCAA championships. This decision is based on the evolving COVID-19 public health threat, our ability to ensure the events do not contribute to spread of the pandemic, and the impracticality of hosting such events at any time during this academic year given ongoing decisions by other entities."

ARE wiped out...sorry DL Grammar queens.

Numbers tested positive are so misleading and almost pointless now. Hardly anyone is actually getting tested.

It's getting serious here in Norway. We're hit hard. We have the most amount of infected people by population in all of Europe. Typical con government, terrified of the profit so they wait too long to do anything. Now they're closing all the schools, but it's already two weeks too late. Way too many people are infected already. Shame on them. If people die they will have blood on their hands and I will never forget it.

A friend on fb sent this to me, I do not know how true it is but I figured it doesn't hurt to try:

Important PLEASE READ!!!This info is from my friend that works for CDC that passed this along to his family and friends. I'm passing it along as well.. The new NCP coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days, how can one know if he/she is infected. By the time they have fever and/or cough and goes to the hospital, the lungs is usually 50 % Fibrosis and it's too late! Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning: Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stuffiness or tightness, etc.,it proves there is no fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicating no infection. In critical times, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air.

SERIOUS EXCELLENT ADVICE by Japanese Doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throatis moist, never DRY.

Take a few sips of water every 15 mins at least. WHY? Even if the virus gets into your mouth...drinking water or other liquids will WASH them down through your esophagus into the stomach. Once there in tummy...your stomach ACID will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly....the virus can enter your windpipes and into the LUNGS. That's very dangerous. Pls send and share with family, friends and everyone.

[quote]A friend on fb sent this to me, I do not know how true it is

Not very:

Thread title suggestions:

Coronavirus Freakout 16: The Kung-flu Chub

In honor of the hibernation weight gain about to hit the nation. Or...

Coronavirus Freakout 16: Stress-eaters Anonymous

I have brain damage after reading FacebookSpeak at R485's Frau post.

12 min ago - CNN

Stocks plummet as Wall Street's 11-year bull market comes to a screeching halt From CNN's Anneken Tappe

US stocks recorded their worst day since the 1987 crash Thursday, on rising fears about the coronavirus pandemic.

Wall Street officially fell into a bear market with the S&P 500 dropping more than 20% from its February 19 peak. The Dow, a smaller index than the S&P, fell into a bear market Wednesday.

The S&P 500 closed down 9.5%. It was its worst day since October 19, 1987, known as “Black Monday.”

The index dropped 7% in the first minutes of trading, which triggered a circuit breaker and led the New York Stocks Exchange to suspend trading for 15 minutes.

The Dow finished 2,352 points, or nearly 10%, lower in its biggest one-day percentage drop since “Black Monday.” The index is now at a level not seen since summer 2017.

The Nasdaq Composite closed down 9.4%. It is now also in a bear market.

The Senatrice has self-quarantined.

It's people like R485 how misinformation gets spread.

I wonder how much Trump and his family are benefiting from these stock market fluctuations. Because you know he definitely wouldn't have cut off travel to Europe unless it meant he was getting some financial bonus from it.

[quote]It's people like [R485] how misinformation gets spread.

I've had those same claims emailed to me three times today -- with three different attributions of authorship.

[quote]Shame on them. If people die they will have blood on their hands and I will never forget it.

I predict the majority of elected governments will change hands after the next elections.

I am in Ontario, in Canada, and I certainly feel my provincial government is failing. The idiot premier - brother of the dead crack smoker - was quoted as saying everybody should fly away for March break and have fun. Idiocy. Beyond idiocy.

Trudeau's government... doesn't seem to be failing yet. Cuomo in New York and Inslee in Washington seem to be doing stand up jobs. What's the view on DiBlasio?

I am freaked the fuck out.

NYC mayor says we will probably have 1000 cases next week. (he's guessing).

I'm on welfare and will be looking for outbreak-based jobs. Need people to watch over locked down buildings! Me, me, me!! Let me feel power over your access to your home! (sarcasm - me saying it is a dark humor, calm down)

My partner will work his tech job from home instead of office, mostly easily, unless they start layoffs (they probably won't jump to it since they've had a lot of success for a while and have always treated employees well).

R494 I'm there too, and I don't expect Ford will step into respectability from all this. Trudeau is a flipped coin. BC's NDP seem good but they could be so overwhelmed they're (too) harshly blamed in the end. Alberta will try to stick their heads into holes and see what happens

The 7,8,9, and 10s indicate over 50% are officially freaked out.

Chinese official blames coronavirus outbreak on US military

A Chinese government spokesman has tried to blame the US army for the deadly coronavirus outbreak, which was declared a pandemic by the World Health Organization this week.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian claimed Thursday that the US military might have brought the COVID-19 virus to the Chinese city of Wuhan, where the outbreak emerged in December.

“When did patient zero begin in US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make public your data! US owe us an explanation!” Zhao tweeted in English in one of a series of tweets critical of the US.

The comments appear to be retaliation in a war of words with Washington. Chinese government officials bristled when Secretary of State Mike Pompeo referred to the coronavirus as the “Wuhan virus,” and decried when President Trump called it a “foreign virus” that started “in China.”

The contagious illness has now infected more than 125,000 people in at least 118 countries and territories, according to figures from the WHO Thursday afternoon.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Out of the 95 cases in NYC, 22 are in hospitals...via mayor's press conference.

At Wednesday night’s opening party for the Brooklyn Museum’s “Studio 54: Night Magic” exhibit, a number of partygoers sported flashy COVID-19-themed face coverings. Attendees Allison Eden and Gary Goldenstein, who wore matching disco-ball masks to the gala, told paparazzi their coordinated glitterati garb was inspired by the potentially deadly virus.

“It took me a day and a half to make each one,” Eden, 50, tells The Post of her and her husband’s masks. “I feel if you have to wear a face mask now, why not make it fabulous? Why not make disco balls?”

Eden, who runs a Bushwick-based handcrafted glass mosaic business, is among the growing ranks of pizzazz-minded health warriors making and sporting bedazzled face coverings: Celebrities from Billie Eilish, 18, to Steve Harvey, 63, have donned tricked-out face masks as the trend spreads from the streets of New York to partiers, influencers and models on runways around the world.

[quote]What's the view on DiBlasio?

Honestly, this is the most I've liked him since he was first elected. Not an A, but at least a B.

It's moving so quickly now. Due to mounting pressure, Trump will be forced to declare a national emergency within days. So much for the comparisons with the normal flu

I hope those assholes in R502's story get it.

DiBlasio: "We're getting into a situation where the only analogy is war" -- De Blasio, foreseeing a situation where, among other things, hospitals set up tents in parking lots to accommodate the influx

Coronavirus can survive 5 weeks in body after infection: study

The findings, published in the Lancet this week, indicate that the current recommendation for isolation — two weeks — may not go far enough to prevent transmission of the virus.

Chinese researchers pulled medical records and lab data to track COVID-19’s presence in 191 patients treated at Jinyintan Hospital and Wuhan Pulmonary Hospital. Of the patients, 54 had died from the infection, which remained in their systems until death.

The results of the research have “important implications for both patient-isolation decision-making and guidance around the length of antiviral treatment,” Dr. Fei Zhou, of the Peking Union Medical College, writes in the report.

The study also notes that 48% of coronavirus patients had a comorbidity, such as hypertension, diabetes and coronary heart disease, which decreased their odds of kicking the virus, along with old age.

Scientists also note that during the 2003 outbreak of SARS, which is another form of coronavirus, only a third of patients still carried the virus after four weeks.

For influenza patients, viral shedding typically persists five to 10 days, beginning within 24 hours before or after the onset of symptoms. Children and immunocompromised individuals, however, may shed longer, for weeks or months, according to the World Health Organization.

Washington Post’s West Africa bureau chief:

Senegal is testing people and giving results within 4 hours.

Senegal’s per capita income is less than $3,000.

R487 Or it's just the excitement of it all.

here's my fear... While limiting the amount of people allowed to congregate during a pandemic is probably great in terms of public health. I'm wondering how many of these restrictions are going to stay in place once the pandemic subsides. It's a slippery slope and I fear people will accept this new normal and it's going to be exploited by governments.

Say goodbye to your rights.

At what point do I get furious at my boss for making us come in to the office still here in Manhattan? My office is small, there are only six of us, and he's a lonely old man who no doubt doesn't want to be alone in his apartment for days. But I'm starting to get furious at having to ride the subway to and from an office building that's like 30% full at this point. There are some dude hacking up his lungs in the public bathroom this afternoon. I wanna go home!

update on the Costco in Brooklyn. There were so many people there yesterday that they were backed up on the expressway waiting to get in. The police had to come to direct traffic. A Jewish woman wanted to know where the wipes were because after the holiday they had she needed to clean her house. She was told they were out and didn't she know what was going on. Obviously none of the Brooklyn Jews knew because today the store was so packed they had to close the doors as it was filled to capacity. They were fighting over the products. There were 11 tractor trailer deliveries last night and it still didn't fill the shelves for today.

I am 70 and have always been grateful for the time periods I have lived thru but this is the first one that I don't like....at all.....

‘Super spreaders’ could turn gyms into coronavirus hotbeds, doctor warns

Coronavirus-infected fitness enthusiasts could turn gyms into hotbeds for the disease, a doctor says.

Dr. Norman Swan told Australian outlet ABC that the sweat of people with the virus could easily spread the bug to others at workout hubs.

“Dampness is a bad thing for spreading germs,” Swan told the outlet. “You’ve got these big blokes pumping away and you never know, one of them might be a super spreader.”

Super spreaders” are coronavirus carriers who spread the illness to a disproportionately high number of people, the Telegraph reported. While some individuals might infect one or two people, a “super spreader” may pass the illness to dozens.

But while Swan suggested that people should steer clear of the gym altogether, he said contagion could still be avoided if they take precautions.

“It doesn’t mean you stop going to the gym, you’ve got to be super careful at the gym,” Swan said. “You’ve got to make sure you wipe down before and after use.”

Health officials have cautioned against close physical contact, such as shaking hands, and suggested that anyone who experiences flu-like symptoms stay home.

Across the world, the virus has spread to more than 118,000 people, causing at least 4,291 deaths.

R512 Don't worry too much. It's very likely you are going to die from this since you are 70. Just accept it and enjoy the last few weeks of your life.

r511 don't worry. I heard thru the grapevine that they are planning on shutting the subways down

people are still very close together while standing in line. I am keeping my distance, at least 3 feet.

Interesting R513 -- I have seen a number of other articles that said that transmission via inanimate objects like touching weights and infected person touched is fairly low, and just standing close to someone else is far more dangerous.

Passenger licks fingers, rubs them on train pole amid coronavirus panic

A drunken straphanger went off the rails on a Belgian subway train amid the coronavirus crisis — licking his fingers and wiping them on a pole, according to a report.

The passenger was captured on video lowering his face mask and sticking two fingers in his mouth before rubbing his hand up and down the pole, according to the UK’s Metro.

Twitter user @SoufOff posted the footage Monday, writing in French: “Stop touching the bars.”

The sicko “was arrested by the police and our security service. The subway train has been removed from service for cleaning,” the Brussels Intercommunal Transport Co. said in a statement.

There have been 314 confirmed cases of the coronavirus and one death in Belgium, the news site reported.

More than 115,000 have been infected by the bug globally and about 4,300 have died.

They can't shut the subways down, r515 -- I doubt that -- I do wish the mayor would say something to discourage people to keep offices open though

To Other Canadians: Listening to CTV News Atlantic Canada - Covid Testing reporting within 24 hour timeframe and doing testing in "Assessment Centres" across Canada.

r519 maybe not but I'm sure they can make something mandatory so that people can't ride them just to get to work.

Just imagine if Datalounge had been a thing back in the '80s during the early days of the AIDS crisis. It takes your breath away to think about the level of panic and hysteria we would have seen on here trying to figure it all out.

[quote]Take a few sips of water every 15 mins at least. WHY? Even if the virus gets into your mouth...drinking water or other liquids will WASH them down through your esophagus into the stomach. Once there in tummy...your stomach ACID will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly....the virus can enter your windpipes and into the LUNGS. That's very dangerous. Pls send and share with family, friends and everyone.

Hilarious. Fraus this dumb deserve the coronavirus.

I got my bat quarters From the US Mint today.

I know that no one will notice except me, and that’s good enough.

R513 Most gyms are closed here in Norway.

So explain the flight thing to me... could Americans be stranded overseas? Asking for a Canadian... because there is concern here that crafty Americans could just fly to Toronto or Montreal or Vancouver or any Canadian city near the border and work their way home from there. For that matter, determined Europeans could start and end their vacations here.

But I am pretty sure the ban always allows Americans to return home. Am I right?

R526 the ban doesn't apply to US citizens or residents

Get with the program, R495. You need more CAPS and exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!

I went to my Whole Foods in White Plains , NY. It was not a madhouse. There were plenty of items on the shelves.

What the

so tax cuts and abortion issues are on repub minds in Congress while Democrats are trying to pass appropriate bills

amazing

⏳CORONA TIME 5:30 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL :

CASES: 134,409

DEATHS: 4,969

CRITICAL: 5,994

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES: 1,636

DEATHS: 40

CRITICAL: 10

HOW can the "critical" cases in the US remain at 10 for days? Sum ting wong!

2% of the population gone...the Leftovers is prescient.

We're doomed....

Camerota presses Pence on Trump's speech

Rep. Schiff Discusses Trump's Coronavirus Response on MSNBC: "Incompetence Kills"

STW@ R533 As I have previously stated in my personal Corona Comments, the figure rarely changes, for whatever reason. Obviously, that's can't be accurate. The website, worldometer.com has so much information that is updated in real time, it's surprising, but they can only work with the info they're given.

My huge IT company finally issued a directive to work from home--if your job allows it.

Orange turd met Irish PM today. didn't shake hands.

Trump has Irishphobia! He doesn't trust the luck of the Irish!

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Little Mikey Pence ......What can we say that hasn't already been said.

He is truly Trump's evil pawn.

And he practices good hygiene, as all Americans should. But he's still admits, he out there shaking hands.

"And together, I know we'll all get through this."

not surprising why the CDC is a fucking mess. Looking at the timeline of leadership, it's changed FOUR times just under Trump. I looked at the list and that's never happened before. Every other President only had either 1 or 2 different CDC leaders

not sure what happened that led to this but obviously it's another Trumpism

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I work for an insurance broker -- we just now received a directive from the higher ups to work from home...starting Monday! So one more day of potentially infecting each other.

Boris Johnson is another one who amazes me... with dismay. I genuinely believed him smarter than this. I cannot understand him at all. Very disappointed.

and AGAIN looking at the FDA Commissioner list, IT HAS CHANGED HANDS MORE TIME IN TRUMP'S ONE TERM THAN ANY 2 TERM PRESDIENT!!!!!

this is fucking insane! At least this fifth one is confirmed but omg what fuckery

Every other President has only had 2-3 FDA commissioners. Trump is on HIS FIFTH IN JUST ONE TERM!

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They're brought in to do the Republicans' bidding, and placate Trump. Once they've accomplished whatever horrible policy changes they put in place, they leave for a lucrative lobbying position or other corporate position in the same companies they were supposed to be regulating.

Who knew the Trump Administration was a shit show that was utterly incapable of governing and leading in times of crisis?

I called it, Trump is thinking of traveling restrictions within the US.

With all these businesses sending their employees home, I hope the zoo animals are still fed! We had nothing to do with all this! btw, my address is the “Stone Zoo, Stoneham, MA”, if you want to send a care-package. Unsalted peanuts preferred. People ask all the time for the address, so...

R549, if he does it, it will be one of the right calls he will have made in this crisis. We need to take it on the chin in the short term and stay put. It should have been in the speech last night.

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Another Juventus player Dybala has the virus! Also Arsenal manager Arteta also has it. This is exciting!

the dumbass deplorables are deliberately being fed misinformation by right wing media. Fox "News" has spent more time focusing on how "the liberal leftist biased mainstream media fake news" is "creating hysteria" and "politicizing coronavirus" rather than telling their viewers about it. Until Tuesday/yesterday most repub voters didn't think this was a big deal at all

now they're being led to believe it's the Democrats holding up financial aid packages and they're doing it to make it seem like Trump failing

they're praising the European travel ban even though of course the virus is already here and has been for who knows how long with who knows how many infected people

Damn, Dybala is a good player...

Arteta was decent in his day.

Spring sprung early this year, so it's pretty awkward for us with allergies.

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I truly thing Rupert Murdoch is the worst of them as he is the puppetmaster.for all of them, Trump included.

I do wonder if the Deps will turn on him once they start dying off or if they'll just blame Schiff amd Pelosi and CNN

R555 And Dybala is extremely cute as well.

Look for repubs to use the chaos in Italy as a reason to not go for universal healthcare in the US

R559, that's what I really meant...

R558 no because they're being led to believe Democrats are in the way of handling this crisis

Just one more step R551 and he will declare martial law, which I predicted yesterday, so we will see.

Trying to warn my conservative flyover siblings is like explaining algebra to a cat. Every fact and stat is met with indifference. They've got "it's just the flu" on repeat, even in the face of black-and-white evidence that this is is many times worse, and on many different levels. I used to give them the benefit of the doubt, thinking they were otherwise intelligent people who'd somehow been misled by the right wing and by Trump, but now I think they really are just idiots.

[quote] Boris Johnson is another one who amazes me... with dismay. I genuinely believed him smarter than this. I cannot understand him at all. Very disappointed.

You believed Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson was "smarter", R545? Ha. Ha. Ha.

[quote] June 2002. Johnson compared same-sex marriage to polygamy and bestiality in his debut book "Friends, Voters, Countrymen": “If gay marriage was OK – and I was uncertain on the issue – then I saw no reason in principle why a union should not be consecrated between 3 men, as well as 2 men, or indeed 3 men and a dog,” said Johnson. 4 years before, Johnson described gay men as “tank-topped bumboys” in his infamous Telegraph column.

Strange that children seem to be largely unaffected by the virus. No child under the age of ten has died of it, apparently. I thought the immune system didn't fully develop until puberty?

Anthony Fauci admits that we are " unprepared for anything of this magnitude. The system is failing."

How long before Trump fires him?

R566, it's the difference between innate and adaptive immune systems. Children have innate.

r567 he'll just blame it all on Obama... three and a half years into his presidency.

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Someone just sent me this. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

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[quote] WaPo: Iran's coronavirus burial pits are so vast they're visible from space.

Sweet dreams, everyone!

Donald Trump standing with the Brazilian official diagnosed with The Corona ......... l just noticed that Pence is standing right next to Trump!

R570, Arsenal just announced their head coach tested positive. Their entire first team will self-quarantine for 14 days. I don't see how the PL doesn't suspend the season? Are they going to continue with only 19 teams?

Ugh. My mom (who is 78) told me that she took my uncle to a doctor appointment on Monday and some woman in the waiting room was coughing incessantly. This is in super-flyover Western PA, but still I am freaking the fuck out.

Tom Hanks has diabetes and Rita battled breast cancer...damn, I hope they get well soon.

R574, The Premier League will have an emergency meeting with all clubs tomorrow after Arteta tested positive for Coronavirus

Next thread title :

😷[italic] Brother, Can You Spare A Mask ?

Starting the new thread early in case things gets busy

R577, gotta believe they will follow the way of the NBA, Serie A, NHL, etc.

Has someone teed up- thread sixteen?

....and there have been American strikes against militias in Iraq. Great.

I'm worried about Prince Charles. It would be just typical for him to get it and die, while Mummy lives on and on....

The nutcase Alex Jones is selling fake CV ‘cures:’

[quote]NEW: NY Attorney General issues cease and desist order to Alex Jones over fake coronavirus treatments.

Iranian death pits

Does Iran have a very large elderly population?

R586 I'm not sure what their exact demographic numbers are, but all Muslim-majority countries have much smaller older populations than the Western world just due to how many more children they have per family.

Bajour!

[quote] I heard thru the grapevine that they are planning on shutting the subways down

New Yorkers are receiving text messages falsely claiming that New York City will be shut down this weekend because of the coronavirus. The mayor's office and NYPD have confirmed this is not true.

R589 So many crazy rumors and scams running rampant these days. And gullible people falling for them.

It's very hard even for well connected and well informed individuals to stay on top of the current news. Very sad that the most susceptible to the disease - the elderly - are also the ones who have more limited and less reliable sources of information.

Italy is doing the unthinkable, they are justifying letting the elderly go without treatment and dying.

Source please R592, and I won't hold my breath.

R592 It's mostly due to the shortage of respirators for critical patients. They have to choose which patient has a better chance to recover.

The number one task should be getting respirators made, distributed and staffed. Like WW2.

This article, R593

Travel restrictions within the USA is basically Marshall LAW!

R595 What's the bet that respirators are made in China?

Doctors saying that Massachusetts is about to become like Italy.

Those bat quarters would be adorable to give out at Halloween.

I know R594. Still it would be heartbreaking for any child to see their parents dying because of it.

[quote]Doctors saying that Massachusetts is about to become like Italy.

77 of their 99 cases are from that Biogen conference on Feb. 24-27. Which is why so many mass gatherings are being cancelled now.