Coronavirus Freakout 12: Subtitles Off

Previous thread.

Should we start calling it The Orange Plague since we have a clown in office boldly lying about it's severity to get the Dow to rebound?

Here...

He is such a fucking lying moron. He is the angel of death.

Just got back from Walmart. They were almost out of lysol wipes, but had other disinfectant wipes and sprays available. Plenty of TP and clorox bleach and other brands of bleach. I didn't see any panic buying, but I wasn't really paying attention to what people were buying.

R3 You need to save that clip for later on in the year when the Coronavirus has spread into every state, people are laid off, supplies are limited, deaths rival the Spanish Flu. Joe Biden will need it to put into every one of his commercials.

This...

Despite the increasing numbers in Europe and the US, all concerned eyes are fixed on India, Africa and South America. So far, there are about 30 reported cases in India. If there is a significant outbreak there (or in Africa or South America), you can forget about it. Coronavirus 1, world 0

NYT: Authorities across the United States reported more than 250 cases of coronavirus and 15 deaths as of Friday, with the West Coast bearing the brunt of the toll.

Let's be honest, Trump can give a fuck about California. I don't trust that lame horseman of the 'Pocalypse Pence will get anything done.

R10 If it hurts the tech industry and the stock market, they care.

And how many of the people who are seriously ill or dead are in high-risk groups?

I have had something for a week now. It's nasty pain in the joints and muscles, headache, and pressure behind the eyes. There is a tightness in the chest but I can breathe deeply. No cough. No fever. No runny nose. I was told in Switzerland one can call the cantonal health office and they come swab at home. I felt OK to work. I think my big STEM university will close within a week a or two. They sent an email today saying every professor must take home his/her computer everyday and verify that our VPN and campus network access works from home. This was sent at 4pm today, Friday. I heard a French minister from nearby French departments on the radio, coming home. He announced the closing of all schools below University. Just like that. I don't know which department it is.

I am guessing many students on my campus have this and nobody is being tested because they are 20 years old, in gorgeous health, and don't feel that sick. The French health minister said specifically the huge danger is so many young kids will have it, or have it, and are not sick at all, and will spread it to their parents and grandparents. He said the government is advising all French people NOT to visit their old relatives - to protect them.

Mulhouse - accrocs the border from Basel.

sorry - across

I want to go shopping tomorrow and Monday. I don't want a quarantine.

There are lots of ethical/moral dilemmas.

You know I hate Trump but there is some truth in what he says about many people having this and not knowing it and going about their business. I doubt the death rate is anywhere near 2% because I think many kids and teens will have this and their immune systems are registering but a small bleep.

Bizarre times.

small blip - that's the word right?

Why Trump Can't Be In A State Of Denial Anymore About Coronavirus | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Statistics for Italy from today's "Corriere Della Sera" (think Italy's NYTimes):

The average age of death for those who have died from the virus is 81 years old.

32.4% of deaths are of those aged 70 to 79.

8.4%: 60 to 69

2.8%: 50 to 59.

14.1% are over the age of 90.

All but 15% had preexisting health conditions (heart problems, diabetes etc.)

As of today, Italy has carried out over 36,300 tests for the virus.

In other words. The French health minister is saying that the children will be speading this - not sick with this. That's why schools must close.

The French radio program than continued to discuss the global stupidity of concentrating production of so very many things, needed all over the world, in unique places. The example was given of pedals for cars. Apparently ALL pedals re made in China. So in a few short months, no cars can be finished in Europe as there will be no pedals. Stuff like that.

As an aside - this, above, has bugged me for almost 20 years, as I saw increasing amounts of mass market food (affordable food) being imported to Switzerland. You can still buy Swiss food in most varieties but you PAY. Consumers mostly don't care so ALL the strawberries come from Spain. etc etc etc.

Anyhow I drew the line in sand and said I'll never buy any food from China - and you do have to read labels - because it does sneak in.

Coronoavirus Freakout 12: Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Flu!

I have a feeling that most of these people who are frantically buying up bottles of hand sanitizer and disposable wipes are trying to make up for all the years they never washed their hands or did any cleaning.

did you see that clip of Boomberg licking every single one of his fingers over a Dominos pizza?

R21 they are buying them up to resell at a higher price.

R13 you may have hay fever from tree pollen. It’s started already for many people, including me. I thought the same about myself late last week with the same symptoms until I clicked that it’s hay fever starting early. It rained heavily where I am yesterday and it largely stopped. Today, it’s fine and breezy and it’s back with a vengeance. Prescription antihistamines are barely touching it.

I’m getting $100,000 in 10-year term life insurance. I might cancel it in a few months. We’ll see.

Does anyone know if I typically would be obligated to keep paying for the 10 year term, or will they just cancel me if I stop paying? I know they can increase the rate after the first year and don’t reveal by how much.

In September 2001, the media stopped repeatedly showing the towers collapsing because it was freaking people out, especially children. I expect this hourly update on TV will moderate or cease for similar reasons. Eventually.

One person dead is a tragedy.

A million dead is a statistic.

Thanks, my hay fever is really in May June. If my school doesn't shut down next week I will ask to be tested. But without fever, I doubt they will bother. We have similar protocols here as other countries. In fact they apparently closed evening walk in clinics, and you aren't supposed to go to your doctor's office either. Just call some central number and be evaluated to see if its worth sending someone to swab you.

I had symptoms like this last winter and was tested for everything and nothing was found, although the doc could feel the swollen glands. If this is wuflu - it's not a huge deal for me, as long as I don't start coughing. I hear its the lung issues that dangerous, even if people recover.

I hope everyone stays as healthy as possible. I'm afraid for my mom who is sick and old.

It's surely far too soon to make any valuable, credible or fact or data based assessments of the impact of the disease on survivors.

But, people do love the drama.

Yes so much drama.

In this video, Pence is elevated to lead the Coronavirus effort. At 1:14:00, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar asserts that he is still leading the task force, and Pence is “helping”. All while Trump slinks out. I bet he didn’t even tell Azar.

As R479 on the previous thread noted, Azar has now been sidelined. They don’t know what they’re doing except massaging Trump’s ego.

This is the kind of thing about which so many of us were warning people for years now.

SXSW has been canceled.

There was a sign at Winco on the mostly empty shelves where the wipes should be. The only ones they had left were a few of the house brand. It said, they would only sell four per family of wipes, hand sanitizers, gloves and masks. As far as I know Winco doesn’t sell masks. And they don’t seem to have any hand sanitizer.

I went to the Costco Business Center store this morning. They open at 7am. I got there around 8:00, to find that a single group of Asian people were carrying out five carts of bottled Kirkland (house brand) cases of water. That’s about 11- 12 cases of water per cart, and they bought five carts full. At the same time, several other individuals were going out with carts of nothing but water as well. Others were going out with flat carts of nothing but water. All the same, cheap house brand. I went to the back where the water was, out of curiosity. There was an empty pallet in the middle of the floor. Most of the individual water bottle packages were gone. You could tell they had sold out just from those people that left as I came in. The lines at the cash register were full of people with water-only carts The gallon bottles were still there. Several people were talking about it, sounding shocked, including the staffer that checks you out at the door.

Anybody know if there was something on Chinese media telling people to buy water, or maybe people’s relatives in China are telling them to buy water? Only Chinese people were doing it, which made it so striking. That’s a restaurant supply Costco, so a lot of Mexicans, Chinese and others with mom and pop restaurants go there to buy restaurant supplies.

I haven’t been for a couple of days, they’re out of some types of rice and mayocoba beans, which are used a lot by Mexicans. If you’re looking for storage containers, they have restaurant supply grade food containers and heavy plastic bins of various sizes that are good quality. Lots of gloves. No masks. Also cheap plain white refrigerators if you have room in your garage.

The main specialties of that store are cases of vending machine sized sodas, juices, Gatorade, Arizona Iced Tea and other drinks in cans and bottles, vending machine sized boxes of nuts, breakfast bars, candy and other snacks and baking and cooking supplies. They have a big produce section and refrigerated and frozen section, and a lot of restaurant supply equipment, like shelving, food grade containers, small appliances, trash bags and other cleaning supplies. They also have a small medical section with less selection than most Costcos, but they’re not cleaned out either.

Pence about to give the latest news - CNN reporting.

Those Evangelicals should be happy the end times are here! They should embrace the disease and go away. I want their stuff.

Forgot to mention, the Costco Business Center in Las Vegas still has Diet Coke, as of this morning.

They also have no sugar and low sugar Gatorade

Why buy water? I don't get it.

People are lemmings, r37. The virus will not disrupt water supply. Carry on.

3/6/20 — ELEOP left the bunker.

R33 No, there's nothing I've seen about water... other than staying hydrated for your general health. I think it's just people's instinct to stock up on every essential item just in case. Be prepared for all eventualities during "interesting times".

Buying water is for earthquakes and hurricanes. There is not going to be a water outage because of a virus. People who buy water are morons.

R37, I don’t get it either. It wasn’t, buy some food and water, it was all water, all the same size. Huge flat carts stacked several stacks deep. They must have come in very shortly after the store opened, like they were determined to get it right away. Getting up at 7:00 am to buy water? They must have heard something. That’s not a whim when you’re buying five full carts.

R41 Some people may believe the virus is just the harbinger for other calamities. It's not like water can go to waste. But I do think hoarding too much is kind of selfish.

I was in Stop N Shop (somewhere in the tri-state) and the bottled water section looked like a bomb had gone off.

I believe Dasani has an expiration date R43 do to whatever they enhance it with.

Pence on now. CNN

Not quite Coronavirus related, but something cheerful to watch in your spare time.

That westchester man is really something...he infected 44 people!

R8 Trump was in India a little more than a week ago.

I have a lingering suspicion that the west chester man is the guy who met with the people associated with Central Bucks schools in PA... and now 5 schools are closed and being cleaned because they were exposed to him.

The Our Lady of Lourdes shrine in France is closed! So much for holy water.

[quote] The Our Lady of Lourdes shrine in France is closed!

OMG. That's the funniest thing ever. It beautifully underscores what a scam they are running at Lourdes.

I was at the DMV today getting my license renewed and the place was busy with quite a wait. I went outside until my number was called.

Mike Pence will save the cruise industry!

I was in whole foods today and usually it's packed on a Friday afternoon but it wasn't today...I got my stuff and left. I usually grab food from salad bar but I haven't been eating it for a month...don't know who may have coughed around the food.

This is the picture of the westchester man, his whole family, his neighbor's family and so many others were infected by him. He took the metro north train into grand central every day...

Why people are buying so much toilet paper amid coronavirus outbreak

The mass buying spree has many wondering why people choose to stockpile the basic necessity, which has many alternatives, albeit not quite as comfortable.

In Australia, where authorities had stressed that there is no shortage, people have wiped store shelves clean, leading major grocery stores to impose strict limits on TP sales, according to Reuters.

Consumer psychology experts say the irrational herd mentality is fueled by social media and alarmist news coverage, according to the BBC.

Another explanation for the phenomenon is what’s known as the FOMO — fear of missing out — syndrome, Associate Professor Nitika Garg, a consumer behavior researcher at the University of New South Wales, told the news outlet.

“They think if this person is buying it, if my neighbor is buying, there’s got to be a reason and I need to get in too,” she said.

In China, Garg added, people sought to stock up on toilet paper because “there’s a thinking that toilet paper can be substituted for tissues and napkins and to make makeshift masks.”

Another consumer expert said the toilet paper craze also reflects people’s need to hang on to their modern lifestyle.

“I think people want to make sure they have some comforts in their lives if they’re going to be shacked up with their family for a long time,” he said.

“Toilet paper doesn’t really matter — it’s just so far down the survival list compared to other things like food or water — but it’s just something people cling to as a minimum standard,” Miller added.

Justin Wolfers, a professor of public policy and economics at the University of Michigan, said in a series of tweets that “even if you’re not freaked out about a pandemic, you worry that everyone else is & they’ll stockpile … & you don’t want to be the left paperless.”

“You can relax, knowing that you’ll still be able to wipe your bum.”

King Kong will stop coronavirus.

*Kisses doll*

How the White House protects Trump and his staff from coronavirus

WASHINGTON — The White House is holding meetings on how to reduce the threat of coronavirus infecting President Trump and his staff after quietly tightening visitor rules last month, The Post has learned.

In response to the outbreak of COVID-19, the White House has mandated that guests disclose all countries visited in the past 30 days. And further steps are under review by a group led by Tony Ornato, White House deputy chief of staff for operations.

The group was described to The Post by one senior administration official as a “task force” that convenes when necessary to address emerging threat situations.

The biggest visible change in the West Wing has been installation of hand sanitizer stations. But the senior official said temperature checks and ending public tours are possible if the crisis worsens — though neither is imminent.

The Ornato-led group is “constantly monitoring and re-evaluating” White House protocols, the official said.

The review follows a significant security change to screen potentially infected visitors.

A different official said that on Feb. 21, the Secret Service began requiring non-pass-holding visitors to the White House complex to submit a list of countries visited in the past 30 days.

The Secret Service and the White House Medical Unit review the information and follow up with people who have visited countries with coronavirus outbreaks.

The mayor of NYC holding press conference right now.

Still 5 confirmed cases in NYC.

47 negative, 40 still pending.

CORONA TIME 6:00 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL STATS:

CASES: 101,947

DEATHS: 3,466

SERIOUS/CRITICAL: 6,401

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES STATS:

CASES: 305

DEATHS: 15

CRITICAL/SERIOUS: 8

Anyone watching Pence on CNN right now? A reporter asked if there would be tests available for each American. One of Pence's CV's team wouldn't respond to her. Said "it's complicated."

Anyone watching Pence on CNN right now? A reporter asked if there would be tests available for each American. One of Pence's CV's team wouldn't respond to her. Said "it's complicated."

Stop asking about toilet paper!

We all know what it is for and why people buy it.

And, by the way, bottled water contains micro-plastics that wreck havoc on your system. Better to filter tap water and put it in glass bottles.

Broadway theaters tell sick patrons to stay home amid coronavirus fears

And producers are urging ticket-holders with cold or flu symptoms, or who are not feeling well, to stay home and contact their points of purchase about ticket exchanges.

A new statement released by the Broadway League – the trade group representing theater owners and producers – outlines additional measures being taken as cases of coronavirus continue to increase across the world. “We have significantly increased the frequency of cleaning and disinfecting in all public and backstage areas beyond the standard daily schedule, and we have added alcohol-based sanitizer dispensers for public use in the lobby of every theatre,” the statement reads in part (read the entire message below).

“We invite patrons to make use of soap, paper towels, and tissues available in all restrooms,” it continues. “We remain vigilant, and we are prepared to make decisions based on current recommendations, as well as in response to changing conditions.”

The League says it is “closely monitoring the evolving coronavirus situation” and will follow strategies recommended by public health authorities, elected officials and the CDC. “We remain vigilant, and we are prepared to make decisions based on current recommendations, as well as in response to changing conditions.”

“Anyone who is experiencing cold or flu symptoms, or who is not feeling well, is encouraged to stay home and contact the point of purchase for more information about ticket exchanges and policies,” the statement says.

The illness couldn’t have arrived at a worse time of the year for Broadway, with awards season in sight and the spring openings of major productions already underway. (“Girl From The North Country” opened last night, and much-anticipated shows including “Six,” “Company,” “Hangmen,” “Diana” and “The Lehman Trilogy,” to name just a sampling, are either in previews or about to be.)

I saw many people wearing masks, I can see into buses as they pass by and I see some people wearing them, a few people on the streets and a guy in the supermarket.

Where the fuck are they getting them? I thought they were all sold out !

There is a man in his 50s who got infected by the westchester guy, lives in upper west side, he has a wife and 3 kids, they were tested and results will be available later today.

That sucks, R66. Going to see a play or musical and having someone hack up a lung in the row behind is part of the experience.

Who is the beautiful Jewess in R56's photo?

I, too, was in Aldi's today. I buy their cases of purified water for $2.29, case of twenty four bottles. Hand Sanitizer @ 99¢ each, and hand soap @ 69¢.

Thank you, food snobs who have vowed never to step into Aldi's. The shelves were well stocked. Happily, I came out with everything I needed.

The two Corona cases in Pennsylvania were NOT in Crawford County.

1- Delaware County

1 - Wayne County

You can order them on Walmart's site R67. The N95 mask is $32.99. I ordered it directly for Miramar and it was cheaper.

Now that I’m set for bleach, hand sanitizer, water, meds, pet food, and canned goods, I am stockpiling barrels of gasoline in my home.

I even put one in my car.

The Chinese government distributes water jugs to quarantined people. I haven't been able to find out why. Why can't they use tap water ?

Kaboom R74

R74, are you the poster from a previous Coronavirus Freakout thread who said that, if their family came looking for food or supplies, they'd be "turned away at gunpoint"?

R75, no one in Mainland China uses tap water. The filtration and delivery of bottled water is a massive industry there. This might also explain what R33 described.

R74 is gonna be on the news. And not in a good way.

I've lived in China and was always advised that it was OK to use tap water for showering and brushing your teeth, but never to drink because of the potential presence of bacteria. This didn't make sense to me because if there were bacteria that I shouldn't drink, why would I put the water in my mouth and spit it out? I just used bottled water for everything but showering, to be on the safe side.

La Goop does a Susan Hayward: SHE WANTS TO LIVE!

Yeah, R74 might blow themself

^Up! I meant. Freudian slip.

If R74 can do that, I have some Chaturbate tokens.

If r74 does it on top of those gasoline cans, I'll pay extra.

How much are people planning on shitting that they need so much toilet paper?

Americans Desperate For Credible Information About Coronavirus | Deadline | MSNBC

Update: Latin America now reports 189 cases. 8 countries in Africa now report cases. The US inches up over 300. Italy has the highest rate of new cases.

As far as I'm aware, not many people have asked if I'm OK.

This is a US quarter. I just bought a bag of 100 from the US mint because I am a cunt. There is a surcharge.

Not part of my decision is that they might yank it from distribution to be sensitive, and a rare coin is a valuable coin.

A problem with stockpiling food is that I’m racing through the good stuff now! I suppose that’s a lesson. Buy stuff you do and will eat, but not your first choice, and it will more likely to last until or if it is needed. Or store it out of the way, if that works for you. My place is small, so I don’t have a lot of options for that.

My very elderly immigrant parents, both quite disabled, are having a very hard time keeping up with and parsing the information about this on the news. So much of it is changing every day and confusing and contradictory and they just can't keep up and don't know what's going on. They're quite far from me and want to stay put (I offered to drive to them and drive them here), so I tried to give them the best information I could and have loaded them up with supplies via Instacart (I know there is still a risk with that, but it's better than them going to the store themselves and they need it either way). I had already sent them tons of hand sanitizer so now I advised them on disinfecting their phones and cane handles and doorknobs daily, washing their hands, not touching their faces or public door handles or shaking hands, etc. They've agreed to only leave their house if absolutely necessary for the next few weeks, but they're in a major city and I'm still worried.

You bitches have given a lot of helpful tips and assurances, in between the totally dismissive people and the doomsday Marys, so thanks for helping me help my sweet old mom and pop.

[italic]I CAN’T TAKE THE TENSION ! !

SXSW cancelled, now Coachella needs to go. I will not miss it either.

[quote]now Coachella needs to go

Where else are we going to get pictures of Cockgobbler Aaron Schock gobbling cock?

Emerald City Comic Con has "postponed" indefinitely in Seattle. Half their guests and vendors had already canceled. It's likely that other large-scale comic cons will get canceled this year - there are a lot of them with six figures' worth of attendees.

Isn’t all that overreacting, just a bit?

The bigger cons are months away. SDCC is in July, Wizard World is in August, Dragon Con is September, and NYCC is October.

I hope to god people will have calmed down by then.

What about the St. Patrick’s Day Parade in NYC? Bridge and tunnel vomit could contain Coronavirus.

I’m sorry, is the CDC really telling people over SIXTY (????) to STAY THE FUCK HOME??!!!

What the fuck is going on here? I have never heard such astonishingly ridiculous advice. If the virus is that virulent and deadly THEY NEED TO TELL US. Ffs, a large part of Manhattan’s work force is over sixty or near it.

If we need to be quarantined, THEN QUARANTINE US ALREADY. There are over a hundred million sixty and over in this country.

Jesus fucking Christ, the scientific community needs to get their shit together, and that goes for the government too.

Unfolding clusterfuck in Boston.

how many days till outright panic?

Calm down. We have yet to see a real outbreak in the US. It was like thousands of new cases per day in Wuhan a month ago. Now that was a scary outbreak.

It’s everywhere now. Nothing can control or contain it. Hopefully, most people will survive with minimal interruption in their lives

Chris Hayes: Trump Is Trying To BS His Way Through The Coronavirus Outbreak | All In | MSNBC

[quote]A Melbourne doctor who treated at least 70 patients at his clinic and saw two others at a nursing home has been diagnosed with coronavirus, sparking fury and concern.

[quote]The Victorian doctor, a GP aged in his 70s, became unwell on a flight from the United States to Australia at the end of a holiday, but went back to work at The Toorak Clinic in Toorak for five days anyway.

[quote]He was last night diagnosed with the potentially deadly virus and Victorian Health authorities have been in touch with those who came in contact with him, urging them to self-isolate for 14 days.

[quote]"I have to say I am flabbergasted that a doctor that has flu-like symptoms has gone to work," the state's Health Minister Jenny Mikakos said.

The one silver lining, hopefully, is that people see Trump is a complete clown when it comes to a crisis that affects the entire country. There is always going to be the cult followers but for the moderate Republicans and moderates on the fence, maybe his farcical leadership during this pending crisis will be the final straw.

It's like Depeche Mode said, God's got a sick sense of humor. Killing us with a new virus and then to really pour salt onto the wound--we are supposed to rely on Orange Roughy for leadership and inspiration.

The majority of U.S. deaths have occurred in one nursing home in Seattle among very old, sick people.

People can get infected at any age, but how many under age 60 or 70 without preexisting conditions have died? Seems like very few.

I have no problem blaming Trump for all of this but we were obviously unprepared. I think the states depend on the federal gov't. too much. States can take things into their own hands to some extent as they have shown but they didn't start until they realized no one was going to help on the federal level.

Times are bad when no one at DL comments on Rump's even worse new toupee.

R107 I'm not sure how bad that doctor's symptoms were when he was seeing patients, but I work for a major US hospital system and was told recently on a coronavirus leadership update call that staff who "just have a cough really can still come to work" as long as they're not running a fever. That is the mentality we're dealing with, even as of today.

I can't be arsed to figure out which post it was in the last coronovirus thread, but I'm the guy from Victoria with a possible case of it caught on the ferry between here and Vancouver. I've self-quarantined and was contacted today and told a nurse will be coming by tomorrow morning to take a swab for the test, results should be no more than 24 hours. Still feel OK, really, like a mild cold, ibuprofen is plenty to ward off the fever and headache that come with it, the cough isn't bad enough to need something for it. I'll update as things develop.

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There was a cunt in New Zealand who had the virus and WENT TO A FUCKING ROCK CONCERT! He should be put in jail for that! The name of the band is Tool.

⏳ CORONA TIME 10:45 PM EST

🌎 GLOBAL STATS:

CASES: 102,230

DEATHS: 3,496

SERIOUS/CRITICAL: 6,153

🇺🇸 USA STATS:

CASES: 326

DEATHS: 16

SERIOUS/CRITICAL: 8

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R113, I hope you get well soon!

Trump won't care until it starts hitting deplorables. Right now it's largely the west coast. I just saw where a Starbucks employee in Seattle was diagnosed. It doesn't get less Trump-tastic than that.

I can't find the info now but I think among the first deaths in seattle was a man in his 40s and there was also a man in his 50s, they didn't say they had underlying issues.

My team at work was supposed to host a presentation yesterday from- you guessed it, Biogen. I got an email in the morning from the organizer, who is a work-from-home rep for that company, telling us that people from the company had tested positive and we had the option to cancel.

A few hours later he emailed that Biogen had ordered him to cancel. The presentation was going to be in hospital offices, so perhaps they were exercising abundance of caution.

The spread of this is going to cause huge economic as well as physical disruptions.

R110, events like this are one of the reasons we have a federal government. The states cannot individually handle this.

I watched NYC may de blasio's press conference this even and he fucking said the virus only lives for 2 or 3 min on surfaces....how the fuck does he know that? That's a fucking lie.

😘 Be safe, R113.....The orphans are praying for you.

re the new stats at r116: as I posted in the previous thread, the death rates from these reported here are holding remarkably stable: a bit over 3% globally, around 5% in the US.

Fucking USA had 1 fucking month head start to prepare and they did NOTHING. CDC couldn't even make proper test kits...best health care system in the world my ass...

R92, are they in Boston? Maybe I can help?

CNN-Worker at downtown Seattle Starbucks store diagnosed with coronavirus

Starbucks said the worker is now isolated at home. The store where the patient worked is now closed, and the company said it was subjected to a deep cleaning overnight.

The local health department gave the store the go-ahead to return to business, according to the company, but Starbucks has not announced when the location will reopen.

CNN-Maryland's 3 coronavirus cases are linked to an Egyptian river cruise

Three Maryland patients contracted the coronavirus on a Nile River cruise in Egypt, Maryland Governor Larry Hogan announced in a news conference.

Two of the Maryland patients had public interaction. Hogan said that one individual, after returning from the cruise on February 20, attended an event in the Philadelphia area where they were in contact with a group of children. As a result, the Central Bucks Co. School District in the Philadelphia suburbs made the decision to close five local schools today.

Another patient attended a public event on February 29 at the Village at Rockville, a retirement community where they were in contact with approximately 70 to 100 individuals including outside visitors, as well as residents and staff, according to Hogan.

CNN-Florida reports 2 coronavirus deaths, bringing US toll to 17

Both of the deceased -- one of whom was in their 70s -- had recently returned from international trips to undisclosed locations. One was in Santa Rosa County while the other in Lee County.

This brings the US death toll to 17. These are the first US deaths outside the states of California and Washington.

CNN-US coronavirus cases rise by 100 in just 24 hours

The largest clusters of cases are in Washington state, California and New York. In total there have been 17 deaths from the virus in the US.

Two new deaths reported in Florida.

CNN-Malaysia reports sharp jump in new cases of novel coronavirus

There are now 83 nationwide cases of the novel coronavirus in Malaysia after the country's state news agency reported a rise of 28 new cases Friday.

(this is a hot and humid country...virus is not going away just because it's hot)

This virus is barely getting started. Get used making changes ad adjustments in your life. It's all about safety, common sense, and survival.

The choice is yours.

Trump told him that r123.

They're both fools ........

[quote]I’m sorry, is the CDC really telling people over SIXTY (????) to STAY THE FUCK HOME??!!!

Well we could take notes from the Chinese government that quarantined people with an iron fist.

Most of my coworkers who are 55+ smoked when they were younger, and all of them have chronic health conditions. Two of them can't even cough without sounding like a lung is coming out of their throat. And this is when they aren't sick. These people are at risk, a risk to others, and need to stay their asses as home.

Get those people in the Pacific Northwest who tested positive and dispatch them to every goddamned state from North Carolina to Texas!!!

UK are thinking about banning people over 70 from going to football games (soccer) in stadiums.

ESPN- Amid increasing concerns about the coronavirus, the NBA asked teams to begin developing processes and identifying actions required if they had to play games without fans in attendance.

just saw footage of trump today, he looks fatter than ever!

[quote]Get those people in the Pacific Northwest who tested positive and dispatch them to every goddamned state from North Carolina to Texas!!!

You aren't the only one thinking that. In Alabama (possibly the most backward state in the union) the rumors are flying on Facebook regarding infected people being flown there on helicopters. No word if the choppers were black.

Damn, those dumb fucks on the cruise ship found out 21 had the virus when they saw Pence on TV tell them about the results.

DO NOT GO ON CRUISES!!!! YOU WILL DIE!

I'm 59 and never smoked. At lunch today, it was kind of sad that one woman with flu-like symptoms had to explain that she suffered badly from allergies.

The hysteria is in full force, stoked by the media. Reactions by governments, etc. seem to be to appear to be "doing something" (over-reacting).

When they talk about bringing students back from Italy, and a mandatory 14 day quarantine before they can return to school, are they talking about sending them home to mom and dad, or to their off campus apartment buildings? I can't imagine they'll want anyone waiting it out in their dorm rooms.

They're should be designated quarantine locations everywhere. Telling someone to go home and stay home us dangerous and useless. Who's gonna do the beer runs?

[quote] R110: I think the states depend on the federal gov't. too much. States can take things into their own hands to some extent as they have shown but they didn't start until they realized no one was going to help on the federal level.

I’m not sure about that. I imagine the facility is quite expensive. Also, it means dividing-up the best people into 52 or so independent facilities. We have an anomaly today, where the President is what he is, wrecking everything he touches.

USA DEATHS: 17

r144, are you talking about NY State recalling the students in study abroad programs in Italy, Japan, Iran etc?

They will be in dorms (not in the city). There will be about 300 students. I don't believe for a second that they will adhere to it.

“Coronavirus epidemic is unstoppable” ~French President Emmanuel Macron.

I live in Rockville, so I'm just thrilled!

No, r147, I'm talking about students attending a Pennsylvania University in the northwest corner of the state. The news we're getting sound a bit sketchy. The students are just now returning from Italy.

The world is collapsing into a full blown existential crisis.

Live from the grand princess

I can't believe people are still going on cruises after the horror show Diamond Princess in Japan. I can't believe how stupid they are...

R143, yeah, I'm little bit concerned I'll get Febreezed or worse because I sneeze big. Never have been able to sneeze discreetly. I sneeze year round because of irritants. One innocuous example being breath mints. Luckily I get to work from home 95% of the time. Unfortunately I have meetings next week.

To the people who think only old people are at risk, or telling people to stay home is hysteria, CNN just had some expert on who was talking about the virus multiplying day by day. I think it came out to 66,000 in three weeks.

The main reason this is spreading as it is, is that when someone comes in contact with an unknown person and catches the virus, it can be weeks before they show any symptoms. The whole time they don’t feel sick and don’t know they’re sick, they are contagious, spreading the virus to coworkers, family and friends. Taking public transportation, eating in restaurants, going to bars, visiting their elderly parents and other high risk people.

Take an event like Coachella. It’s ground zero for unknowingly picking up the virus. Then people go home, have no idea where they got it from, and are contagious for weeks, spreading it everywhere to a lot of other people who have no idea where they got it from. Same with conventions or Comic Con type events. People fly in from all over. Then go home and carry it with them. That’s exactly how the 1918 flu spread, traveling to visit family for the holidays.

In cases like the cruise ships or somebody that catches it from a family member, they can track down every person they have visited, and quarantine them all. That’s the end of that thread, so to speak. But go to Coachella and potentially catch it from thousands of total strangers that could end up on the other end of the country, or anywhere? They need to cancel it.

The fear isn’t that some teenager at Coachella will get it. The fear is that everyone that goes to Coachella has parents, grandparents and bosses in their fifties and sixties, rides the subway, goes to bars...young people go out. They are perfect disease carriers because they interact with a lot of people. And then they go back to college and breathe on each other there... and then their roommate goes to visit Grandma?

Some young people have died as well.

Many young people smoke and vape, their lungs aren't in good shape...they could die as well.

The lady @ r152 should have skipped the cruise and spent the money on new front teeth.

When the Catholic Church cancels services, you know it's serious.

[quote]I can't believe people are still going on cruises after the horror show Diamond Princess in Japan. I can't believe how stupid they are...

I can't believe that there are any active cruises ongoing AT ALL after most have turned into full-fledged death traps. Why the blank are they till operating? Half of the initial set of cases brought into the US were from a cruise ship or ships. I guarantee you a large number of new cases her are from people returning from cruises.

Our president can sign Exec Orders with a flourish of a pen banning people from entering the country and just about everything else, time to put his uber-impulsive pushy nature to work for us and ban cruises from departing or porting here. No one coming off a cruise can return home here for a month, flat out.

Yes the industry will suffer but we bailed out the banks, give the cruise companies a bail out for next 6 months (airlines too as well). Our lives depend on it at this point.

I've been seeing ads for Princess Cruises all week, featuring new low fares.

Can someone please help with my hand sanitizer issue. I bought aloe vera and 70% alcohol, the highest concentration I could find. Some reports say if you dilute the alcohol with aloe such that the final product contains less than 60% alcohol, it becomes less effective. Others say this is nonsense, such as the esteemed Dr. Agus, who says as long as you use enough of the final product you'll be fine. He said it's just like adding a shot of vodka to a glass of orange juice... either way you'll get just as drunk. So am I ok to dilute the 2/3 alcohol with 1/3 aloe as prescribed or should I only add a little aloe to keep it above 60%( which will make it runny and more drying/harsh)? Thanks for the help.

At this moments the Johns Hopkins REAL TIME Coronavirus map lists 102,186 confirmed cases.

80,651 are in mainland China. THAT IS 79% of all cases worldwide.

3,491 people have died. That is 3.4% of the current cases known.

3,070 of the deaths were in mainland China. That is 88% of the total deaths.

14 of the deaths were in the United States. That is 0.401%

57,389 people are listed as RECOVERED. THAT IS 56% of all cases known.

Yes, the numbers will increase but

R159 MARY

In the thread last night, someone taking methotrexate had a fever and was seeing the doctor today. I scanned through this thread but didn't see any mention from him.

Methotrexate/Fever guy, where are you? What did your doctor say?

@ R127 -Pierre, that was such a nice thing you did by offering to help the guy with his Boston parents. It made me cry with joy.

[quote]I can't believe that there are any active cruises ongoing AT ALL after most have turned into full-fledged death traps.

Calm down, Mary. Most cruise ships have not "turned into full-fledged death traps". Do you realize how many cruise ships are sailing at any given time? Princess alone has 18 ships, not to mention all of the other cruise companies. So far, there have only been three ships affected - the Diamond Princess, the Grand Princess, and the Westerdam. A cruise ship is probably the best place, relatively speaking, for an outbreak to occur because those people can be contained and prevented from spreading it to the general public. Far worse is someone spreading it in the wild, like on an airplane or a train or a large public gathering. I doubt you're screaming about closing down all airline travel or public transportation.

Sure, you all bash cruise ships NOW. But when the zombie apocalypse breaks out, they'll be the best place to be.

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What about the upcoming Golden Girls cruise?? Won't half of DL be on it?

Dr. John Campbell explains the S and L strain mutations.

That's obscene!

Darfur Orphan needs to put that long-dead schtick to rest.

OP

At first I thought it was a horrible new title, but then I saw the graphic underneath and had to laugh.

Perfect.

Is the strain of virus in Italy super mutated making it extremely virulent?

It seems that most of the infections outside of Asia are coming from Italy or Iran.

R13

Yale is following similar protocols.

My friends don’t expect to return to New Haven when spring break ends. They have resigned themselves to telecommuting for the second half of the semester.

R172 The link at R169 is a breakdown of the two types (S and L). Full manuscript from National Science Review linked below.

R164 MARY!

I think the administration was just buying time to maximize Wall Street plays. That’s all they care about.

R122

“.... events like this are one of the reasons we have a federal government...”

The same federal government that has failed catastrophically at every project it has undertaken for the last century? Only a fucking retarded moron would ever believe that the federal government is efficient or effective at creating anything other than chaos and tragedy.

If each state and county were allowed to set their own policies, the spread of the ongoing epidemic would be slowed dramatically. Some states would shut all interstate travel, while California would welcome everyone infected to their utopia, faithfully believing that good socialist vibes will cure them.

We're constantly told to "buy American", so where are all these American products? I listened to a litany of " made in China" products that were going to be negatively impacted by the Corona crisis. Seems like the vast majority of American manufacturers use Chinese labor.

Like I said before, it's time to build "The Ark."

R126

Large government systems, just like any bureaucracy, are crippled by legacy systems, and leaders that don’t want to lose funding, so they try to pretend to be relevant.

Instead of helping, the bullshit bureaucracy kills people.

Socialism is bureaucracy with an exponent. Because so many of our important systems, such as healthcare and education, are controlled by federal legislation+ regulation, and funded by socialist policies, they will not be prepared to adapt to an outbreak of this magnitude.

The fundamental inability for socialist systems to prepare for “fat tail events” will result in millions of unnecessary deaths.

With any luck, this pandemic will result in radical decentralization of power back to the local level.

Brussels needs to be neutered. Washington DC needs to be relegated to the same status as Puerto Rico. All federal powers need to be returned to the states.

Smaller organizations are more nimble and capable of dealing with novel threats. Large your credit systems like the United States and European Union are dinosaurs.

The US ranks fifth in the Death by Corona count.

That's not a source of comfort & joy.

Anyone who seriously believes that the government is really going to help them, specifically, should probably just praying the virus ends our misery.

1h ago 06:29 - Guardian

The number of infections in Europe has more than doubled in just three days, the New York Times reports, as confirmed cases reached over 7,300 on Friday. According to Johns Hopkins, here are the ten countries in Europe with the highest number of infections.

Top 10:

Italy: 4,636 Germany: 670 France: 653 Spain: 401 Switzerland: 214 UK: 164 Netherlands: 128 Belgium: 109 Norway: 108 Sweden: 101

r180 knows the actual fucking score. Completely agree.

R184

The unbelievably incompetent reaction by members of the European Union, the US, Mexico, Commonwealth countries, and Islamic nations, will undermine faith in the current bureaucracy we pretend is representative government.

Radical decentralization will be the end result, unless they are able to take control of this within the next few weeks.

The vast majority of people on the planet already understand that government lies are normal, and therefore don’t believe anything the government says, so the rapid “phase change” will crystallize that discontent.

Given the choice between total control by Washington DC, and local control by politicians they can keep a close eye on, people will overwhelmingly choose localized government systems that reduce transaction costs and amplify response capacity.

Massive centralized bureaucratic government systems have failed so catastrophically that new forms of decentralized government will flourish in the aftermath.

What a bore! Get a blog, hun.

Well said, r185

There's a joke running in France:

[quote]Buy two Coronas, get one More Subite free.

Where More Subite is a brand of beer that translates into "Sudden Death".

I read somewhere that farting is a symptom? I have been doing it like crazy for a few weeks but I thought it was related to prostrate problems.

R180 is spewing nonsense.

Then lie on your back, R189.

190 probably works for one of the many branches of one of the many poisonous bureaucracies that r180 quite rightly calls out.

If the idiot-in-chief hadn't broken up the CDC unit that dealt specifically with pandemics, we wouldn't be in the current situation. Notice that the couple of cases of ebola that got here were carefully controlled. Now we can't even get health-care workers tested.

Again, the fault of the moron-in-chief who has left multiple vacancies and appointed unqualified flunkies to positions throughout the federal government.

It's not an accident that we've got an out-of-control epidemic happening with the moron-in-chief.

And Grover Norquist jr. can just stay off Interstates and buying anything that arrived via an Interstate and then back to us on the federal government issue. And, actually, while he's at it, he can get off the Internet, since it is also the result of a federal government program.

I’m not sure if I agree with R180, but he sounds interesting. I wish I knew more interesting people.

But I don’t think the test kit shortage is a bureaucratic snafu. It’s intentional, and I don’t understand the reason. I mean, obviously the US government wants to conceal the number of cases in the US, but why?

The new Rochelle guy. He took Metro North. He was a lot closer to other riders than he was to the neighbor he infected who drove him to the hospital. Where are the metro north infected? Either Jewish people are more susceptible, or there are dozens of metro north riders with coronavirus who haven’t been tested. I suspect the later.

Daily Mail

Family of second coronavirus victim to die in the UK say hospital was 'too slow' to isolate him: Caribbean cruise ship passenger, in his 80s, was left 'coughing excessively' on a ward for six hours as relatives fear he could have passed on the infection

I notice that r190 is unable to provide examples to defend his assertion....

If R196 or R192 is R180, then I don’t think he’s interesting anymore. Sigh. Where have all the interesting people gone?

No worries, r197. Your paranoia on this front is unfounded and I am r196 and r192 , but r180 is someone else.

So yes, there are at least two of us here on this board who agree with r180's stance against unfettered bureaucracy.

[quote] The same federal government that has failed catastrophically at every project it has undertaken for the last century?

They pulled off the WPA and WWII pretty well.

17m ago 11:40 - Guardian

A cruise ship on the Nile in Egypt with more than 150 tourists and local crew was in quarantine on Saturday in the southern city of Luxor, after 12 people tested positive for coronavirus.

34m ago 11:24 - Guardian

The coronavirus death toll in Iran has increased to 145, a rise of 21 over the past 24 hours, a health ministry official said.

The number of people testing positive for the virus increased by more than 1,000 over the past 24 hours, reaching 5,823 on Saturday, Reuters reports.

Jesus, who is the dumbass OP? Subtitles Off is a pathetic title when there are gems like World War C and Quarantine of Solace as yet unused.

R144, And feed those in the quarantine camps, how? Provide security, nurses, beds, bathrooms and t.p., etc., how? You're asking for governments to divert funding that needs to go to medical use.

As to the poster in the previous thread who wondered about the attendance at the Summer Olympics: There will be no 2020 Japan Olympics. Mark.

Yeah, and "Love in the time of Coronavirus" is superior also.

[quote]But I don’t think the test kit shortage is a bureaucratic snafu. It’s intentional, and I don’t understand the reason. I mean, obviously the US government wants to conceal the number of cases in the US, but why?

Because it's hurting the economy, basically, and I suspect Trump doesn't want to be blamed for it so he's doing the usual dumb guy thing of pretending like it's not happening.

163 cases in the UK. 25 in London.

R204, yes.

Also: Corona Royale

Subtitles Off is completely irrelevant to the virus.

I don’t know why he hasn’t been locked up already.

⏳ CORONA TIME 8:00 AM EST

🌎 GLOBAL STATS :

CASES: 103,830

DEATHS : 3,522

SERIOUS/CRITICAL : 6,138

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES STATS

^^^ 🇺🇸 UNITED STATES STATS :

CASES : 335

DEATHS : 17

SERIOUS/CRITICAL : 8

4,000 in self quarantine in New York

One of my employees had a sibling in a study abroad program in Italy return home yesterday. The whole family will self quarantine at home for two weeks) and socially isolate from each (one bathroom each than goodness) . My employee will work from home. Seeing what is going on around the country I have to say I love my employer and my colleagues.

Donald Trump ....... [italic] Any one who needs a test, the tests are there, and they're BEAUTIFUL !

Dr. John Torres appearing on the Today Show this a.m. encourages everyone, except the elderly and the sick, to go about their business as usual, including trips to the mall, and, if you have a cruise booked, by all means, take that cruise.

I'm not a doctor, but I don't agree with the guy who is.

CNN-Hong Kong says 17 people tried to escape quarantine

Chan said 17 people were trying to leave the city but were stopped at the borders by Immigration Department staff. They were then sent to the government’s designated quarantine facilities.

She added two people were charged and police submitted evidence of another seven cases to the Department of Justice, while the remaining cases are under investigation.

CNN-There are now more than 7,000 cases of the novel coronavirus in South Korea

South Korea’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has announced 274 additional cases of the coronavirus, bringing the national total to 7,041.

Two more deaths from the virus were reported earlier today, bringing the country's total to 46 fatalities during the epidemic.

The mayor of Orange County, FL keeps says central Florida is open for business and is encouraging people to come for spring break. Central Florida currently has no cases but I think there’s a lot of lying going on to keep the tourism economy from tanking.

CNN-California's Stanford University cancels all in-person classes for winter quarter

All in-person classes for the final two weeks of the winter quarter will be cancelled starting Monday, California's Stanford University announced in a letter on the university’s website.

Exams that were scheduled to be taken in-person will be taken in a take-home format, the university said.

CNN-'Preppers' have endured years of mockery. Now the self-survival business is booming

Do you have your "bug-out bag" (BOB) ready for when the "s*** hits the fan" (SHTF), or will you "bug in" for "the end of the world as we know it" (TEOTWAWKI)?

This jargon is well understood within niche "prepper" communities, whose members spend their lives preparing for impending armageddon -- natural disasters, pandemics or financial collapse.

Now, "civilians" are turning to expert preppers in droves for help in getting ready for the worst.

CNN-NYC says slow federal action has "impeded our ability" to fight virus in letter to CDC

In the letter from Deputy Mayor for Health and Human Services Raul Perea-Henze, the New York City government said “the slow federal action on this matter has impeded our ability to beat back this epidemic."

The city also asked for additional testing kits, according to the New York Times, noting the two previously provided kits “do not meet the needs of New York City, America’s most populated city with 8.6 million (population).”

“With multiple positive cases, NYC needs maximum testing capacity to enable successful implementation of the public health strategies that best protect New Yorkers,” Perea-Henze wrote.

“The importance of NYC having additional testing kits and expanding our testing capacity cannot be overstated."

Oh god, I forgot about Spring Break. We're doomed.

[quote] Like I said before, it's time to build "The Ark."

Just take a Princess cruise, R179.

CNN-Head of Italy’s co-governing Democratic Party tests positive for coronavirus

Nicola Zingaretti – the head of Italy’s co-governing Democratic Party (PD) – has announced that he has tested positive for coronavirus, confirming in a video statement on Saturday that he is now in self-isolation.

"So, it has arrived, I also have the coronavirus,” Zingaretti said in a video shared on his Facebook page, adding that he is “well” and currently in self-isolation.

Zingaretti, who is also the President of the Lazio region in Italy, called on citizens not to panic and said he will “set a good example by following the instructions” of health officials.

R221 Yup. We don't have any confirmed cases where I live yet, but I assume by the end of March there will be tons after the returned college kids have been circulating around for two weeks.

You haven't seen bureaucracy until you've lived in Canada. And yes, it's toxic, stupid, and mostly useless (their handling of this virus is hardly better than the Americans), but it isn't going anywhere -- it's one of the biggest single employers of white women, they loooooove themselves a nice fat bureaucracy full of cushy pensioned jobs and loose management. They are scared utterly shitless of the private sector. Bureaucracy in the west will only grow and grow and grow from here on in.

Y'all need to take a couple of hours to watch "How to Survive a Plague."

The government will do nothing to prioritize its response to coronavirus that we do not force it to do.

Forget the private events being cancelled what about the US CENSUS?

Census takers will soon be going door-to-door to insure completion, bringing the virus right home to you, or you to them!

Oh the thread title indeed is pointless and absurd.

Trump looked his worst ever at the CDC yesterday.

"Jesus, who is the dumbass OP? Subtitles Off is a pathetic title when there are gems like World War C and Quarantine of Solace as yet unused."

You guys are some ungrateful bitches. What does it matter if one title sucks, when you can pick a new one every 24 hours?

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump catches it and refuses to admit he has it or quarantine himself, until he gets too sick to pass. He’s hanging around a bunch of people every day.

I'm waiting for it to hit Washington DC, that would be interesting.

r227, have you ever been involved in a census before? It's not all done face to face, and those census takers that do do person to person interviews aren't (normally) shaking hands and kissing interviewees.

Trump's hand gestures were especially bizarre yesterday at that CDC press event. He had nothing to say so there was nothing for his gestures to emphasize, but he kept on talking while pounding and batting at the air.

His gestures are always weird, but he outdid himself yesterday.

He seemed to be doing jazz hands a lot.

Yup. There is nothing there but id. Roiling id. Bubbling, uncontrolled id. Nothing to temper it. Nothing to counteract it. Nothing to contain it.

Id.

31m ago 13:50 - Guardian

Confirmed cases in the Netherlands have risen by 60 to 188, health officials have said, after the country reported its first fatal case on Friday.

The National Institute for Public Health said that most of the cases could be traced back to people who had recently travelled, mostly from northern Italy. In 29 cases, the path of infection was still being investigated.

1h ago 13:18 - Guardian

France reports further 63 cases France has reported another jump in coronavirus cases from 653 to 716, an increase of 63, according to the French health ministry.

The spokesperson said that 11 people had now died in France because of the virus.

Updated at 1.31pm

CNN

An additional 60 people have also tested positive for coronavirus in Belgium, bringing the country’s total to 169 confirmed cases, the Belgian Public Health Federal Service said Saturday in a statement

How are the numbers so relatively low in the U.S. when they are exploding in countries that are much smaller than some of our states?

Lack of testing R239

Because we don’t have testing.

Well, that's frightening. We need to know where it is so that we can at least give the elderly a chance to self isolate.

As I mentioned a few weeks ago, I was very worried about explosions in Europe due to the winter/carnival vacation breaks in February. Many of these cases are directly linked to Italy. Here in Belgium, the freeways were full of people (mostly skiers) returning from holiday on 28 and 29 February. Unfortunately the worst is yet to come due to the approaching Easter break in April when millions of people will head to France, Italy and Spain on their annual holidays. It is going to be a total nightmare throughout Europe once people return home

R239, because USA hasn't been testing...have you been following the threads? So far, USA has only administered over 1000 tests!

CDC has been fucking useless, they can't even make proper test kits, I don't think this has anything to do with trump eliminating that pandemic position. This is basic shit. Where did these cunts get their MDs? the fucking internet?

[quote] We need to know where it is so that we can at least give the elderly a chance to self isolate.

Ack!

It's a virus and it has already spread far and wide. The elderly are the most vulnerable to it.

That's all the elderly need to know. That's all anyone needs to know to make this decision.

Isolate or not. Take your chances or not. It's not difficult.

R237 In France they've decided to test only symptomatic people, not all suspected cases. Real numbers is certainly in the thousands. We are so fucked.

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I can't believe they're doing that when it's been proven that asymptomatic cases are contagious too. Have they just given up on containing it? Isolating only symptomatic cases isn't going to help us. I'm so mad.

And no fisting for the duration. If coronavirus can enter your body through your mouth, nose and eyes, imagine if your fist top sneezes or coughs and then doesn't wash his hands.

I think they’ve given up. Not sure anything would have made a difference. The symptoms are not unique and people are at least somewhat contagious during a long incubation period.

CNN-206 people test positive for coronavirus in the United Kingdom

“21,460 people have been tested in the UK, of which 21,254 were confirmed negative and 206 were confirmed as positive,” the UK Department of Health and Social Care said, adding that two coronavirus patients have so far died.

The British government’s confirmation came shortly after an update from the Scottish health authorities, who announced that they have identified five new cases of coronavirus over the last 24 hours, bringing their regional total to 16.

Coronavirus patients are told to recover at HOME: People who have just mild symptoms will not be hospitalised as at least 45 people with the virus are already treating themselves in self-isolation with daily phone calls from health officials

Coronavirus patients are no longer all being admitted to hospital, British health officials have confirmed.

Anyone confirmed to have the virus who is not seriously unwell or at risk of becoming more dangerously infected can recover at home.

At least 45 people out of the 116 confirmed in the UK have already been instructed to stay in their own houses and wait for their illness to blow over. Officials said it was 'perfectly reasonable' for people to recover at home because COVID-19 is a 'mild illness'.

While recovering, they will receive daily phone calls from health officials and will be given a special number to call if they start to feel ill and need medical help.

'Anybody who needs hospitalisation will be hospitalised in a specialist centre as needed.'

So if we're advised to stay home and self-treat, how long does the virus germs stay and linger in the house? Especially in places where it's too cold to open a window and let fresh air in.

R205 has fired her agent.

Sorry, meant R202.

Right, R245, but I don't think that is being communicated to the elderly. They see it on television in places like Washington State and think they are okay in bumfuck Iowa. We should be testing to know where it is localized. If South Korea can test everyone, why can't the USA? There is no excuse.

No need. I have a natural ability.

it's made in china, GREAT quality!!!------------------

CNN-Coronavirus quarantine hotel collapses, trapping 70 people

A hotel building in south-eastern China's Quanzhou city collapsed Saturday night, according to the city government statement. Several state media, including People’s Daily, confirmed the hotel has been used as coronavirus quarantine center.

Around 70 people were trapped in the building and 33 people have been rescued from the debris by 9:30 p.m. local time, the statement said.

It is unknown if there are any fatalities and why the building was collapsed.

Just read a case in Toronto was riding the public transit extensively for three days before knowing he was infected. So man explosion in Canada in about a week or two?

Trump is not fat.

He's HUUUUUUGE !

[quote] They see it on television in places like Washington State and think they are okay in bumfuck Iowa.

DARWIN!

And, R256... who told you that it is localized anywhere in the US? You made that up.

New Singapore research shows coronavirus lingers in rooms and toilets but disinfectants kill it

WASHINGTON (AFP) - New research from Singapore published on Wednesday (March 4) showed that patients with the coronavirus extensively contaminate their bedrooms and bathrooms, underscoring the need to routinely clean high-touch surfaces, basins and toilet bowls.

The virus was however killed by twice-a-day cleaning of surfaces and daily cleaning of floors with a commonly used disinfectant - suggesting that current decontamination measures are sufficient as long as people adhere to them.

The research letter was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) and comes after cases in China where the pathogen spread extensively through hospitals, infecting dozens of healthcare workers and other patients.

Researchers at Singapore's National Centre for Infectious Diseases and DSO National Laboratories looked at the cases of three patients who were held in isolation rooms between late January and early February.

They collected samples from their rooms on five days over a two-week period.

The room of one patient was sampled before routine cleaning, while the rooms of the other two patients were sampled after disinfection measures.

The patient whose room was sampled before cleaning had the mildest symptoms of the three, only experiencing a cough. The other two had moderate symptoms: both had coughing and fever, one experienced shortness of breath and the other was coughing up mucus.

Despite this disparity, the patient whose room was sampled before cleaning contaminated 13 of 15 room sites tested, including a chair, the bed rail, a glass window, the floor, and light switches.

Three of the five toilet sites were also contaminated, including the sink, door handle and toilet bowl - more evidence that stool can be a route of transmission.

Air samples tested negative, but swabs taken from air exhaust outlets were positive - which suggests that virus-laden droplets may be carried by air flows and deposited on vents.

The two rooms that were tested after cleaning had no positive results.

[QUOTE]Smaller organizations are more nimble and capable of dealing with novel threats. Large your credit systems like the United States and European Union are dinosaurs.

R180 - I did Masters level research on uptake of environmental and IT policies in capital works projects among government authorities in 21 countries and the U.S. came in close to last out of all the countries. The leading edge countries were Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. I found the smaller the country, the more efficient, the more reactive, the more research-focused and collaborative in nature the participants. When I read about the U.S. slowness in reacting to this "crisis", I am not at all surprised. By the way, I also conducted the research in situ and got to know the government authorities quite well in terms of economic, social and political context. The research was done in 1996.

It's now 2020 - Nothing much has changed.

[quote] The French health minister is saying that the children will be speading this - not sick with this.

It’s the ‘OK Boomer’ of viruses.

yes, stay away from kids. another reason to hate the annoying, ungrateful fuckers.

So many cheapo companies have cut staff and I imagine that there are no full time custodians left in America. Just contracted lowest bidder slave labor.

This country needs to be given a bath and owners who neglect buildings should be taxed to oblivion.

Corporate greed is making public spaces uninhabitable.

Bill Maher suggested this title last night on his show: "Panic at the Costco."

CNN-3 new cases of novel coronavirus announced in Georgia

One of the new cases is an individual from Cobb County, who recently returned from Italy, and is isolated at home, according to the Georgia Department of Public Health.

The other individual is from Fulton County and is hospitalized, DPH said. According to DPH, the source of that person’s exposure is unclear at this time.

Additionally, DPH is waiting for confirmation on a presumptive positive test for a Gwinnett County resident who recently returned from Italy and was self-monitoring at home. This person is now isolated at home, a release from DPH said.

r148 - The correct quote:

"As my love for Justin, so is Coronavirus epidemic is unstoppable” ~French President Emmanuel Macron.

How did the United States govt and its agencies, with NASA putting a man on moon in 1969, get from where we were then, to where we are now? My guess is that in the 60s, NASA still had the discipline and personnel left over from WWII.

I doubt that the CDC tanked in three short years since djt. Had to have started way before then, but why? Big Pharma? What's going on at CDC?

Where are the CDC whistleblowers?

Where are the fucking tests? How hard can it be, ffs?

[quote]The French health minister is saying that the children will be speading this - not sick with this.

Finally something the youth vote can do by just existing. If only it could mutate into SuperTuesday2.0

R267 He was going nuts not allowing himself to touch his face, LOL.

Try not to worry, gay friends of DL. We're on the job. We've been having lots and lots of meetings, with many more to come. Together we're going to figure this thing out. Some of us are here over the weekend. No worries about us, though. We're able to order-in everything we need.

Is this an instance where the power of Cheryl's pussy could be put to good use?

[quote]The French health minister is saying that the children will be speading this - not sick with this

I have a perfect solution for this.

The CDC just declared that the virus is "endemic" in Seattle and will not be testing anyone.

Just don't test, don't tell. Brought to you by Trump. If they don't test, they don't know how many they have.

South Korea has universal healthcare, that's a big reason why they have been able to test so many people.

I may be hesitant about testing since I have a $6,700 deductible before my health care coverage pays for anything. I can afford $6,700 in the big scheme of things so I'd probably get tested if I'm presenting clear symptoms. But how many Americans can swing that kind of cost? Many are living from paycheck to paycheck.

"doubt that the CDC tanked in three short years since djt. Had to have started way before then, but why? "

Republicans have been trying to starve the government ever since Reagan. The only thing they want to fund is defense, and fuck everything else including medical research and public health. When you add in their general disbelief in science, you get to where we are today.

Greatest country in history. Best healthcare in the world. USA! USA! USA! USA!

R159 I can't believe that there are any active cruises ongoing AT ALL after most have turned into full-fledged death traps.

I can’t believe people want to go on cruises AT ALL.

Even if I were on someone’s private boat, I’m just not crazy about the idea of being out at sea.

I grew up by the ocean. You don’t fuck around with it, because you WILL lose.

Canada is no better, Americans. Very few places are, if any. Maybe take a break from the Trump hate and have a thought about.... literally anything else, for example, what you're going to do if you get infected and need critical care, etc.

I was talking to a neighbor and she said usually business class is full, but there were many seats available on her flight. She had taken a drink of her soda while waiting to board and it went down the wrong way and she had a coughing fit. She said everyone look in horror at her. She had to reassure them she did not have the coronavirus and it was just from her soda.

Actually, there is an idea to shut down all cruise lines and then the government will help them through till this is over. You know, like bailing out banks.

Let’s vote on the next thread title NOW so we don’t have to do it THEN.

I'm from the Government I'm here to help....sums up what republicans attitude and have been undermining the government for decades. Response? The Government sucks just what they want you to think.

I agree. The thread title is really important, you understand. You can't panic without the right thread title.

Coronavirus Freakout 13: Fortune Cookie Say ...

[quote]R287 I agree. The thread title is really important, you understand. You can't panic without the right thread title. —Little Edie

It may well be the last thread title we ever create, too.... the final image our little eyes see before the whole world goes dark.

Choose carefully!

If future civilizations read this dump they'll be glad we're dead.

There's bad luck, and then there's this:

Please mark your thread title suggestion with a #

#Quarantine of Solace

Since we can't place polls inside a thread on DL, I'll compile the title ideas and post a Survey Monkey link around R500, then the post the Survey Monkey results around R550.

#Coronavirus Freakout 13: The best laid glans

r249- you missed the whole discussion that the virus is in fecal matter too. They don't have to sneeze or snot on you.

[quote]I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump catches it and refuses to admit he has it or quarantine himself, until he gets too sick to pass.

Absolutely. He's a psychopath, and psychopaths never admit when they are wrong.

Comment from daily mail

1% of people posting here understand this. The figure of how many have died so far is not relevant. The mortality rate is. The current rate across the world is 3.8%. For perspective for all those that like to mention the flu. The mortality rate of the flu is 0.1%. COVID-19 is around 30 times more deadly and more infectious than flu. It is also mutating. When the deadly Spanish flu mutated during its second wave, healthy people aged 25-35 also died in high numbers. Convincing your "it's just a bad flu" is a cope method and self-denial. You don't have to panic but educate yourself and prepare for the reality of this.

[quote]R296 Convincing your "it's just a bad flu" is a coping method, and self-denial. You don't have to panic, but educate yourself, and prepare for the reality of this.

Well, what are we supposed to [italic]do, [/italic]Mr. Smarty Pants?

You tell US!

[quote]Where did these cunts get their MDs? the fucking internet?

Don't be ridiculous. They save up enough box tops.

[quote]Officials said it was 'perfectly reasonable' for people to recover at home because COVID-19 is a 'mild illness'.

The S strain seems to be mild in younger patients without underlying health problems, but the L strain seems to be more virulent and can still cause serious problems and death at any age. Either strain can kill the elderly or people with comorbidities. If I were a public health official, I'd err on the side of caution at this point. We know almost nothing about this virus.

The death rates are moot essentially because we don't now how many people have it. Is there a country we could really reference that has tested the populace so we can get a more accurate percentage?? I think South Korea has done a good job of testing.

As of yesterday over 6200 cases...and 42 deaths. So far that is a very low death rate

Stanford makes COVID-19 test: Stanford has created a test to quickly diagnose patients with COVID-19. The test is expected to deliver results in 12-24 hours. The FDA relaxed restrictions so that the test does not have to come from the CDC and can be sent to public health services, and Stanford can test suspected cases in house. A Stanford medical center faculty member has tested positive.

Support for CDC and NIH is Bipartisan with the exception of Tea Baggers and Trump tramps.

Apologies for the awful ads every few slides and this is from a few days ago, but it has good information including lethality by country

R284 Republicans hate Socialism until they don’t.

A few people upthread seemed to be upset about the lack of information. Here is what I know. As I understand it, for practical purposes to the average person, the virus is different from the flu for these reasons:

1. You can be infected with the virus for weeks, and yet you show no symptoms. You are contagious during this period, so this makes the virus more communicable than the flu.

2. The virus is more resilient than the flu. Until about the first of the month, I was hearing that it could be transferred through the air, floating in air. I now uniformly hear that it is like the flu, and requires phlegm, spital, etc., for contagion, so I don’t know. The exception is below.

3. It can last for perhaps 9 hours on surfaces, and that can infect you. This also makes it more communicable than the flu.

4. There are reports of people recovering and testing negative, but later falling sick again. It’s possible the test was wrong or the virus was hiding somehow. So, it can either reinfect you, or you can have a relapse even after our crappy tests say you’re virus-free. They don’t know which it is right now.

5. There are two strains. We don’t yet know if both can infect you or not.

6. The death rate was reported to be 1-1/2% to 2% until about last Monday. Now they are saying 3%-4%, with the elderly at 5%-6% or more. We really don’t know yet.

7. Don’t compare the number of deaths to the number of flu deaths. This disease is just getting started.

8. There is a 1%-2% chance you will turn into a zombie. See the movie [italic]“The Omega Man” [/italic] from 1971 for details.

1h ago 17:23 - Guardian ( yikes and yikes. Scary as fuck(

Cases in Italy rise by more than 1,200 in 24 hours More than 1,200 new cases of coronavirus have been confirmed in Italy since Friday, the Civil Protection Agency said.

The total number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in Italy has risen to 5,883 from 4,636 on Friday, according to official figures, a rise of 1,247.

The death toll in the country rose to 233 from 197 on Friday.

[quote] R149: I live in Rockville, so I'm just thrilled!

What state! I lived in Rockville CT, and it’s a tiny town. It’s about 20 minutes from Hartford, the State capital, and yet I drove past corn fields on the way there to work. I always thought that funny.

Connecticut is also a tobacco growing state, which may surprise some people since it’s so far north.

[quote] R159: I can't believe that there are any active cruises ongoing AT ALL

Not only that, but their ships are worthless after an outbreak. Who would book a trip on the Diamond Princess for August? Nobody.

[quote] R164: @ [R127] -Pierre, that was such a nice thing you did by offering to help the guy with his Boston parents. It made me cry with joy

Thanks. I’m reading the thread now looking for a response.

The Westchester vector-lawyer is now responsible for his Rabbi getting Covid. Oy.

That one guy has infected close to 50 people by now. Are they all swingers out in Westchester, or what?

I'm looking at last minute cruise deals. Under the assumption that I'm going to get it anyway, I might as well get a cheap vacation. I saw one party-boat cruise on Carnival going for less that $50/person.

They’ve been talking for a long time about creating communities on the moon for people, under glass domes.

Maybe it’s time to do that, and ship the infected people off.

This would protect the still-healthy.

Bitch please. Royal Caribbean is calling me weekly offering me a FREE eight day cruise.

Just received a frantic call from my mom near Atlanta. She is worried that the situation there is much worse than reported. She is elderly, in bad health, and now she has a terrible cough. She is going to the doctor tomorrow. I have officially cancelled my trip in April because she doesn't want us to get on a plane anytime soon. So scared for her and for others like her around the world

Heads up, R113.

Breaking: British Columbia has identified 6 more #COVID19 cases, the most concerning of which are 2 long-term residents of the Lynn Valley Care Centre. The 1st community transmission case, announced Thursday, works there. Unclear if she brought in, or all exposed by someone else

CNN-Italy coronavirus cases jump by 1,247 in a day (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The death toll also continues to climb with 36 fatalities reported on Saturday. The country has reported the most deaths outside of China, a total of 233.

Cuomo declares state of emergency in New York as state coronavirus cases soar to 76

A state of emergency frees up $30 million that will be used to expand testing and purchase items such as masks and protective gear for healthcare workers, the governor said.

There are now 57 cases in Westchester County and two in Rockland County that can be traced to a cluster tied to attorney Lawrence Garbuz, 50, believed to be connected to the majority of the state’s cases so far, officials have said. (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

There is a man in far rockway Queens infected, he's in his 30s and hospitalized. I think some medical staff are affected as well and might have to self-isolate.

He is a driver...like uber or lyft...not sure, it wasn't mentioned. And you know these people live in small apts with so many other people! so definitely more infected...

please bleach all your door knobs, faucets, phones, light swithes, bathrooms!

CNN-France coronavirus death toll rises to 16

France’s General Director of Health Jerome Salomon has confirmed 16 dead and 949 confirmed coronavirus cases nationwide, according to a press conference he held on Saturday.

Salomon said 45 people infected with the virus are being treated in intensive care.

CNN-5,861 coronavirus tests completed by CDC and public health labs

As of Friday at 6 p.m. ET, 5,861 tests for coronavirus have been completed by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and public health labs, US Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn said at off-camera briefing at the White House on Saturday.

Trump administration health officials had not released specific figures until today.

This does not mean that 5,861 people have been tested. Currently each person tested typically has two swabs taken – one from the nose and one from the throat.

The 5,861 number also does not include tests performed at private or commercial labs.

Right now Hahn said there is an ability to perform 75,000 tests. Officials, however, expect that number to jump dramatically next week with the additional production by private manufacturers of coronavirus testing kits.

R319 So, you guys think I should cancel my trip to NYC next week, or go and just stay the fuck away from suburban Jewish lawyers?

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Those orthodox jews cluster together that's probably why it is affecting their communities.

If you are young and don't have underlying medical issues...come to NYC! just bring bleach so you can disinfect the hotel or wherever you're staying yourself, I prefer to clean myself so I can rest easy...

I bet that westerchest man infected over 100, don't forget, he took the train into grand central every day for work!

[quote]If you are young and don't have underlying medical issues...come to NYC!

Read about the differences between the S and L strains. I wouldn't assume that, because someone is young and without underlying medical issues, they are guaranteed to stay healthy.

R323, how are you planning on traveling? If you're driving, then go. If you're flying, maybe this is not a great time to deal with airplane ventilation systems. They're not great.

The virus is everywhere. Go to NYC, where it is. Or stay in your own town, where it also is.

[quote]I bet that westerchest man infected over 100, don't forget, he took the train into grand central every day for work!

Also, don't forget that whoever he infected has and/or is now infecting countless others. R0 for one of the strains may be as high as 6.

Also, I read that some people haven't been the same even after recovering, the damage done to lungs etc...I hope they give us more info

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I see a lot more people wearing masks in the city now...even gloves.

I was in home depot (manhattan) yesterday and they still have cleaning supplies but they were running low on gloves.

R329 I'd be flying. And staying near Grand Central. I'm middle-aged and healthy.

R334. If I were you, I would stay home. You don't want to take the chance, you might get infected, not show symptoms and then you bring it home to infect your state or wherever you're from...

We don't have anything remotely like reliable data on what's going on in the U.S. and it looks likely that it'll stay that way as long as the Trump regime is in power. Till then I'm relying on the World Health Organization. Fuck off, John Bolton. This is a prime example of why we need the United Nations.

There is a lot of misleading information, yesterday evening in a press conference, NYC mayor said that the virus only lives for 2 or 3 min on surfaces (fucking liar), he's also said you won't get it unless it's "prolonged exposure", this guy cannot be trusted.

Then you have others (in the UK) who said it can live for up to 3 days on surfaces...etc

They tell us, "it's like the flu for most people", "mild illness" etc...I don't believe it at all.

I'm just gonna keep washing my hands and bleaching my apt. Seriously, I think I'm developing OCD for hand washing...

CNN-Coronavirus cases in US reach 400

There are 400 cases of the novel coronavirus in the United States, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as well as state and local governments.

According to the CDC there are 49 cases from repatriated citizens from Wuhan (3) and the Diamond Princess (46). There are also 21 people from the Grand Princess.

This includes presumptive positive cases that tested positive in a public health lab and are pending confirmation from the CDC, and confirmed cases have received positive results from the CDC.

#Coronavirus Freakout 13: Madea's Family Fluneral

Congress preps plan to work from home amid coronavirus outbreak

The House Administration Committee will launch a center Monday to coordinate computers and phones into a telecommuting system, according to an internal memo obtained Friday by Fox News.

“In light of the unique and unusual circumstances presented by the coronavirus … this will provide the opportunity for staff to receive technical assistance they may need to be prepared to work remotely,” the memo reads.

Congressional staffers were spooked this week after learning dozens of their bosses may have been exposed to the fast-spreading illness at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference last week in Washington.

But the House and Senate remain open to visitors — and representatives and senators must vote in person, the Constitution mandates.

great article...

Why so few cases from Russia? Surely many wealthy Russians traveled to northern Italy and France to ski during the past few weeks. Yet the number of reported infections there are well under the general trend throughout Europe. Troubling to say the least

And no reported cases in China outside of Wuhan during the past days as numbers significantly grow around the world. Complete bullshit!!! Despite what WHO says China has not been transparent about the crisis from the beginning and even more so now. They desperately want this problem to disappear and are willing to do whatever it takes to make this so !!!

[quote] R180: Smaller organizations are more nimble and capable of dealing with novel threats. Large your credit systems like the United States and European Union are dinosaurs.

Often a big company will create an independent tiger team to address crises like this.

[quote] R193: If the idiot-in-chief hadn't broken up the CDC unit that dealt specifically with pandemics, we wouldn't be in the current situation.

But did he really do this, or did Congress block him? I’ve heard both. I don’t know.

R345, Trump did in fact break up the pandemic response team.

One of the new NYC cases in an Uber driver.

Congress protected the overall CDC budget.

Trump cut the pandemic response group.

FWIW he also re-organized the administration of the research component of the WTC program, in my personal opinion not for the better.

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA

BREAKING: "The American Conservative Union has learned that one of our CPAC attendees has unfortunately tested positive today for coronavirus."

Also...

‘AIPAC says two people at DC conference attended by Pence and others have tested positive for coronavirus’ In attendance: M. Pompeo, M. McConnell, Ted Cruz, Liz Cheney, Mike Bloomberg, Cory Booker

The top 3 (most read) articles on the Washington Post at this moment-

[quote] Squandered time: How the Trump administration lost control of the coronavirus crisis

[quote] Trump ‘didn’t know people died from the flu.’ It killed his grandfather.

[quote] Matt Gaetz made light of coronavirus by wearing a gas mask. Now one of his constituents has died.

What a bunch of idiots! I hope they all get it!

Now I'm heading out bitches

^ I hope I live to see them pay the electoral price for those headlines.

I hope Cory is okay tho. I'd love to hear Cruz had the crud

The masks aren't doing anything because the eyes and ears are still uncovered so if you couldn't get any don't worry about it

If we don't all already have it we should within the next few weeks.

R92 is really sweet. I hope your parents are okay.

A sensible bunch of information from the BBC.

What I like is the explanation of the sequencing... as a rule, starts with a fever, about a week later, breathing becomes difficult... the point is... you've got time from the initial indication to begin sorting it out.

⏳ CORONA TIME 7:15 PM EST

🌎 GLOBAL:

CASES: 106,017

DEATHS: 3,751

CRITICAL: 6,259

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES:

CASES: 434

DEATHS: 19

CRITICAL: 8

The Irish Times' Naomi O'Leary:

Extraordinary times. Italy's draft emergency Coronavirus law to ban entry and exit to whole of Lombardy region - capital Milan- Venice, Padua, Parma & 8 others.

Weddings and funerals banned. Cinemas, gyms, pubs, museums all closed.

Anyone violating law can be arrested and fined.

Wow, Italy has gone hardcore. London needs to do something similar as it's a petri dish at the moment.

They'll be coming for Grindr next.

My vote for the next thread is World War C.

Please do not call it something totally irrelevant like Subtitles Off.

This

[quote] R230: I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump catches it and refuses to admit he has it or quarantine himself, until he gets too sick to pass. He’s hanging around a bunch of people every day.

I know a guy like this. The only time he hugged me was when he had MRSA. It was not UN-well intended. He just has a mental illness. I think he wanted validation that he was ok. All on an unconscious level. So my guess is narcissism. He’s also a true hypochondriac. The only one I‘Ve ever met. Sometime we think people are, such as fibromyalgia sufferers, but this guy always has something different and uses it to be the center of attention. He’s just now getting over the flu, lol.

Seventy employees at the Life Care Center in Kirkland, Washington, are showing symptoms of novel coronavirus, according to Tim Killian, spokesperson for the facility.

There were 180 staff members employed at Life Care Center as of February 19.

Employees showing symptoms have been asked not to return to work, Killian said at a briefing on Saturday.

My coworker went home with a fever on Friday. Should I be worried?

Serious Question ...... Is there an established protocol for bodies of the deceased? Is it suggested/required that victims be cremated, or is that decision left to the family. Has it even been addressed by the CDC?

I can't imagine that morticians would be allowed, or even want to, handle the body of a corona victim. How could you possibly know that it was safe. Would individual funeral homes be equipped to deal with this?

I think Trump is suppressing testing; and the experts, who have more integrity, probably think they are more valuable working on the virus in other ways than fruitlessly complaining about the lack of testing. They don’t want to be replaced by a second string employee or former congressman. But, I wouldn’t be surprised if eventually, one of the CDC employees falls on his sword and complains publically. There already was a whistleblower on this and it had no effect.

The panic in the USA and Europe will begin next week.

Hospitals will be overloaded by April Fools.

I was at Best Buy this morning and the parking lot is usually full. Plenty of spaces and didn't seem like a lot of people were in the store. Maybe it picked up later in the day. Total Wine And More was busy, as usual.

Yes, R366. Monitor yourself just in case.

Its moot advice but stay calm and try not to worry.

R367, This obviously doesn’t apply today, and doesn’t answer your question but might interest someone beside me: in the 17th century in Massachusetts, I had an ancestor who buried someone with smallpox “far away” in the forest around the small settlement, despite there being a cemetery at the church.

Depends where you are R366.

yes, orange turd got rid of pandemic position. But there are still doctors there...they are the useless cunts who can't even make test kits. I want those responsible to be named and shamed and FIRED!

R366, my sister and her hypochondriac partner in Suffolk County on Long Island just had the A strain of the flu, despite getting the anti-virus Flu shot. She was tested and the A flu seems to be what she had, though I wonder.

So, there are other things that are going around. That said, yes I would be concerned, but not worried. Make sure you’ve got the supplies recommended previously, delivered perhaps, and limit your contact with people.

We may not be living in the 17th century, R372,but I would imagine the thoughts on this topic today are quite the same

When you receive your supplies or buy them from the stores, wipe them down with clorox/lysol wipes. Those poor stockers and delivery people don't have the luxury of sick time.

Here is the Trump press event that some people upthread are writing about. Go to 14:45 to see Trump .

[quote] I can't imagine that morticians would be allowed, or even want to, handle the body of a corona victim. How could you possibly know that it was safe. Would individual funeral homes be equipped to deal with this?

Oh, my God! We did this all in 1982 and 1983 and 1984 and after. We know the answers to all the funeral home questions. dead bodies are remarkably self-contained and funeral directors know how to handle them.

We cannot and MUST NOT fall victim to all this fear and suspicion. We are better than that. We have to be better than that because our goddamn motherfucking president isn't. This is a challenge but some of us have done this before. Educate yourselves. Think for yourselves. Demand action from officials.

How about Corona Virus Freakout 13: Grey Gardens of Futility? Eloquent and evocative of how we're in our own little world here together, waiting....waiting....waiting .. for .... something, hopefully good news eventually. I wonder how our Victoria friend is doing? I'd like to hear from people who have made it through ok.

I started following this closely at the end of January. The predictions were dire, and nothing in the last five weeks has changed my initial impression.

Apple is FUCKED. Over 90% of their products are produced inside China. Those supply chains are utterly broken, so no new iPhone or iPad will be released this September.

Numerous banks have sent people home to begin “remote work” protocols- 10% now, 50% by April 1.

Walmart is finalizing plans to convert all shopping to curbside delivery.

Even if they cured the virus tomorrow, the supply chain disruptions will still cause major problems this year.

If the number of cases keeps doubling every six days, healthcare systems worldwide will be in meltdown mode by the end of May.

Anyone who doesn’t believe that this is going to dramatically disrupt daily life for everyone on the planet is deluded.

Take a break. On the lighter side, accordion Trump .

Another good movie is [italic] “The Andromeda Strain” [/italic] (1971). It holds up well, so don’t dismiss it due to age.

It makes me think about the the Chinese scientist’s and Chinese politician’s initial reaction when they realized the mortality rate. It must have been disbelief mixed with terror.

The movie “I am Legend” (2007) with Will Smith was a remake of “the Omega Man”. Also good.

R379 Some of us weren't even around in the early eighties, Gramps.

Corona virus Freakout 13: Ain’t no stopping it now, it’s on the move!

The video at R369 is terrific, although very sobering.

Another good movie is [italic] “The Andromeda Strain” [/italic] (1971). It holds up well, so don’t dismiss it due to age.

It makes me think about the the Chinese scientist’s and Chinese politician’s initial reaction when they realized the mortality rate. It must have been disbelief mixed with terror.

The movie “I am Legend” (2007) with Will Smith was a remake of “the Omega Man”. (1971).

I host Easter Dinner for family and relatives, many of whom travel from various cities in the US. We've collectively decided to postpone until the 4th of July, hoping that things may have improved, but in all seriousness, I have my doubts.

A week ago I was mildly concerned. Today, I'm seriously concerned. It's as though the approaching Corona Demon is getting nearer, and closing in. It's everywhere ..........

119+ new cases of Corona in the U.S. today.

This thread is hysterical. You insane queens are acting like this is AIDS 2.0 with all this hysteria about how to dispose of the bodies.

Washington Post:

Matt Gaetz made light of coronavirus by wearing a gas mask. Now one of his constituents has died.

On the upside, lobster (and other seafood) exports from the US to China are suddenly non-existent. Lobster prices online have plummeted.

I have a suggestion. Make a separate thread for all the fucking title suggestions.

It's not an upside for Lobster farmers.

R388 You rang.

Televangelist Jim Bakker has been ordered by the New York State Attorney General to "Cease & Desist" selling his bogus Corona Virus Cure, guaranteed to wipe out the virus within 12 hours.

^ I like how he snorts

R363. don't trust Zerohedge to tell you if it's day or night. It's a right-wing propaganda rag.

"Zero Hedge’s content has been classified as “alt-right” and has been criticized for presenting conspiracy theories."

the political stance of the blog, which Lokey told Bloomberg is: “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry= dunce. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”

I feel like Ava Gardner in On The Beach waiting for THE END. Deserted, wearing Givenchy and clutching a bottle of Bombay gin.

ZeroHedge has been partially taken over by Russian misinformation writers too. They have been posting pieces rewriting history to make Russia look like the good guys I'm various world events. It's super obvious and a lot of the readers comment on it, but they keep letting them post there.

#Coronavirus Freakout 13: Flu Moon of Kentucky Keep on Shinin'

Wow, Italy is taking drastic measures. I suppose it's understandable, given how quickly the virus is spreading there, but the impact on their economy will be massive.

Coronavirus may be the worst disease in the history of mankind.

....

You can tell from the stupid film titles being suggested that most people on this thread are in their 70s and 80s, hence the panic.

Italy is apparently the source for the rest of the world infections, aside from China. Everyone in the U.S. and Europe with it seems to have been visiting Italy recently.

I hope more politicians insult China for creating and spreading this virus, and not stopping it before it got out. It will piss them off.

My manager and I work remotely. He was sick all last week after returning from a trip to CA. Since he doesn't have a fever, he insists it's not the coronavirus. He was given meds for a sinus infection. Our company hasn't banned travel outright so he still going to fly in this week to my city for a meeting. For the love of god, it's not that important of a meeting! And I have to spend the whole day with him.

[quote]The masks aren't doing anything because the eyes and ears are still uncovered

So when will it be ok for me to wear a full veil when leaving my home?

I want to look chic and mysterious during these dangerous times!

One Flu Over The Cuckoo's Nest, And Landed On The Corona Princess.

The Black Plague of the Middle Ages was way cooler

R405) And yet here you are on a Saturday night posting on Datalounge. 🤔

ABC:

State of Emergency in New York with at least 76 coronavirus cases

As census takers for the decennial survey prepare to knock on doors and count residents, anxieties about the spread of COVID-19 could hamper their efforts.

In a pinch, can I use buffs? They can cover the nose and I wear glasses.

I can think of a few better things to do with census takers.

Ta.

Why bother with a census?

By the time the figures are tallied and published, they'll be all wrong anyway.

So the Moron-in-Chief coukd be infected because of that CPAC meeting? Cool beans.

The census is done by mail. It’s only those people who don’t respond who are sent census takers.

This is a really interesting read. The first Brit in Wuhan to get coronavirus shares all his symptoms (it lasted weeks) and how life is now in quarantine.

Has Madame X made any comments about this?

[quote]So when will it be ok for me to wear a full veil when leaving my home?

That won't protect your oh-so-vulnerable ears unless you first stuff them with grated garlic, seal it in with caulk, wrap your ears in a few layers of foil and duct tape, then fashion some DIY earmuffs from old socks soaked in 100-proof vodka (Russian, of course).

As tempting as it may be to add some grated turmeric to the garlic, you must avoid it at all costs! It causes turmers.

Thanks, R419. I am interested in hearing more about the sick. There’s not too much news about that. The vast majority of us will survive this, but what percent will get I’ll, and how I’ll, etc.

Because of the Metro North rider was positive its not impossible for the entirety of that train to get exposed via the conductor who checks tickets of each rider in every seat in every car.

The urban-to suburban sprawl areas are going to have numbers exponentially rising by next week.

Also worth noting that a single healthcare provider possibly exposed 200 people between the two hospitals they work for.

Because of the Metro North rider was positive its not impossible for the entirety of that train to get exposed via the conductor who checks tickets of each rider in every seat in every car.

The urban-to suburban sprawl areas are going to have numbers exponentially rising by next week.

Also worth noting that a single healthcare provider possibly exposed 200 people between the two hospitals they work for.

Yikes...

Amtrak is taking the Acela out of service for the time being.

That makes no sense to me.

This thread title- bad?

A health care professional told me you should wash your hands with lukewarm-to-cool water. Hot water makes your flesh crack, opening it up to pathogens.

Thanks for the happy news R396!

He needs to go straight to hell.

Wash your hands like you’re washing Jason Momoa.

Younger Gays, do you have someone to remove your sex paraphernalia so that you’re not posthumously embarrassed? I suppose getting one should be added to the list of preppier stuff.

I noticed that stores are cleaning a lot more

Health Pro Says Don't Touch Face, Then Licks Hand

R425 They’re quarantining most of Northern Italy now including Milan, just like China did. Nobody goes in or out, just shut it all down. It’s pretty amazing. Is that what’s in store for us?

Well, Pierre, assuming you've been following the advice in this thread, sex paraphernalia is easily hidden with little to no chance of it ever being discovered. What you need to do is secrete your sex toys (frozen first to kill pre-weevils) in one of the 5-gallon Winco buckets you're using as toilets in your bunker.

If by chance you haven't followed the advice in this thread carefully enough, I promise you, the dead-cart driver* is not going to spin the spinner lid of each 5-gallon Winco toilet bucket to find that one of them is empty but for your sex-paraphernalia collection. Your fuck bucket will be thrown right into the plague pit, unopened.

#Corona Freakoout 13: Coming Soon, a Pandemic Near You!

#The Masque of the Red Coronavirus

I really hope the warm weather will kill it off, for the sake of the world. Is Korea hot or cold now? Number of infected is so high but over half is due to that religious group....

R434, I doubt it, unless Trump demands a quarantine on all the states and cities that didn't vote for him.

I was listening to NPR yesterday and someone was saying it’s not just Northern Italy, that Rome is virtually deserted too. Very few people out and about. But Northern Italy is the only area that’s been ‘officially’ ordered quarantined by the government.

What is meant by R345 saying “I heard both“?

Ummm, how stupid can one person be? You “heard” it. From where? Was it a reliable source?

And when you heard the contrary, was that a reliable source? Can you not look it up and verify which was correct?

This is not the days of telegrams and word of mouth. So that leaves me dumbfounded and confused as to why someone would post that.

What the fuck are we gonna do about medicine? Are companies moving production back? Are factories open in China??? India is gonna keep meds for themselves before exporting it!!!

We are so fucked!!!!

You can't make an effective plan for your sex toys to disappear at your demise. The better course of action is to buy a very large dildo and a very large butt plug and store them with your everyday toys. Whoever finds your toys is going to be impressed by your prodigious capacities and that is as it should be.

R434, I think so. Although Trump now takes credit for bringing the Princess ship’s Americans home to quarantine from Japanese waters, it’s reported that he was furious when he found out it happened without his knowledge. It was done through a Congressman’s initiative. At present, he’s refusing to let Americans on another cruse ship in San Francisco harbor to disembark, because that would increase the number of sick in the US, and he said he “likes the numbers the way they are”, the stupid, sick bastard.

I would eventually expect an executive order with quarantines and Marshall Law, especially around the Dem convention or the Nov election.

Oh, no! Not another instance of Marshall Law.

It has a 98% survival rate.

Calm the fuck down.

on the virus breakout maps, the equatorial regions appear to be lightly hit or spared entirely. Does heat and humidity affect the transmission of this? if so should we expect the coming summer in the northern hemisphere to give us a let up in new cases.

A week ago the US had around 70 recorded cases. Today there are 428. Italy had its first case two weeks ago. Now there are nearly 6,000. This is unfolding all over the world.

If this is not alarming to you, you are either in serious denial or not that bright, or both. The US is not going to be able to magically contain this. Not even South Korea can. It will continue to double every few days. Hospitals will fill up. And if you think you're safe because you're young and otherwise healthy, you're wrong. Eventually the healthcare system will be in shambles and the care you'll receive won't be anywhere close to what you've enjoyed up until now.

But, but, but... it's just the flu!! Jesus Christ. Do the fucking math.

[quote]he said he “likes the numbers the way they are”

That was just one of the public remarks Trump made at the CDC yesterday He also said he told Pence “not to be nice to that Governor Inslee because that man is a snake” and mentioned that all the doctors at the CDC were amazed at how much he knew and maybe he should have gone into medicine instead of real estate. And other gems that I can’t remember. The guy’s a fucking pathological deviant.

That's right, R444. I'm back!

Straight outta Wuhan/shooting ear-boring spores/like heat-seeking missiles out my drawers.

Uh oh . . . & mother & I were just thinking about how nice it would be to go on the Carnival next week :)

R446, that hasn’t been established yet.

Thirty states now have citizens with the Coronavirus. Considering the size of the US, it appears to be spreading rapidly.

How much will it cost to be tested?

[quote]Wow, Italy is taking drastic measures. I suppose it's understandable, given how quickly the virus is spreading there, but the impact on their economy will be massive.

R402 How quickly it's spreading [bold]there[/bold]? You think America is going to be an exception? You're innumerate.

I'm hoping the virus will decline and disappear as quickly as it started. That's what happened with the Spanish flu. All of the sudden it just went away.

[quote]Wow, Italy is taking drastic measures. I suppose it's understandable, given how quickly the virus is spreading there...

That's because they're doing testing there.

I don't see any more recent statistics but as of March 3rd, Italy had carried out 23,345 tests.

The US? 475

....

Eldergays, please don't fly

Royal Princess voyage cancelled AT THE PIER today; per CDC crew member had transferred from Grand Princess, but was clear of corona . . . that's FOUR Carnival Corp. vessels involved to date: Diamond Princess, Westerdam, Grand Princess, Carnival Panorama . . .

R398

I would trust ZEROHEDGE.COM before CNN or MSNBC or the New York Times.

Just don’t test anyone, the numbers will be great!

Elections suspended to prevent spread of Corona Virus at polling stations.

⏳ CORONA TIME 12:00 AM EST

🌎 GLOBAL :

CASES : 106,203

DEATHS : 3,601

CRITICAL : 6,035

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES : 442

DEATHS : 19

CRITICAL : 8

That cruise ship company is gonna file bankruptcy soon

R456, that is not true, USA had tested over 1000, still very low but it's more than 400

R434

“They’re quarantining most of Northern Italy now including Milan, just like China did. Nobody goes in or out, just shut it all down. It’s pretty amazing. Is that what’s in store for us?”

By the end of March most US cities will be under martial law and quarantined indefinitely.

People don’t seem to realize how the catastrophic disruptions already “baked in” will become apparent over the next month.

R465 Link please

R467, it's on CNN scroll down...I've copied and pasted it for your viewing pleasure.

Roughly 5,861 coronavirus tests completed by CDC and public health labs

As of Friday at 6 p.m. ET, roughly 5,861 tests for coronavirus have been completed by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and public health labs, US Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn said at off-camera briefing at the White House on Saturday.

Trump administration health officials had not released specific figures until today.

This does not mean that 5,861 people have been tested. Currently each person tested typically has two swabs taken – one from the nose and one from the throat.

The 5,861 number also does not include tests performed at private or commercial labs.

Right now Hahn said there is an ability to perform 75,000 tests. Officials, however, expect that number to jump dramatically next week with the additional production by private manufacturers of coronavirus testing kits.

CNN-South Korea coronavirus cases rise past 7,100 with 50 deaths

South Korea announced 367 new infections on Saturday, bringing the country's total to 7,134, according to the South Korean Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

It is the worst outbreak outside of China.

Six more deaths were reported on Saturday, with 50 in total

Among the 367 new cases, 294 are from Daegu city and 32 are from North Gyeongsang Province, the most heavily infected areas in the country.

Eyeballing the stats in r463: the global death rate is still staying close to 3%, but the US rate appears to have shifted downward slightly, from a prior steady 5% or higher, to down closer to 4%. Let's see if that holds.

First coronavirus case confirmed in Washington, DC

A man in his 50s who lives in Washington, D.C., tested positive for COVID-19 Saturday, Mayor Muriel Bowser said.

The patient began exhibiting symptoms in late February and was hospitalized locally on March 5, she said.

The case is considered to be the result of community spread because the man did not appear to have a history of international travel or any close contact with another confirmed case.

“With his test yielding a presumptive positive, D.C. Health has started its investigation in keeping with CDC guidelines,” Bowser said. “This investigation includes contact tracing and providing guidance on next steps for care.”

Organizers said the patient tested positive Saturday and was exposed to the virus before attending the event and had no interaction with the president or VP, the Times reported

Trump brushed off any concerns as the virus crept closer to the White House.

“I’m not concerned at all,” the president said Saturday.

When asked, Trump said he’d press on with rallies as the number of infected Americans continues to rise, with more than 400 cases documented by Saturday night.

“We’ll hold tremendous rallies,” he added.

45 million people got the flu in 2017-2018. No martial law was declared.

From Liz Specht, PhD, Associate Director of Science & Technology at The Good Food Institute:

[quote]I think most people aren’t aware of the risk of systemic healthcare failure due to #COVID19 because they simply haven’t run the numbers yet. Let’s talk math. Let’s conservatively assume that there are 2,000 current cases in the US today, March 6th. This is about 8x the number of confirmed (lab-diagnosed) cases. We know there is substantial under-Dx due to lack of test kits; I’ll address implications later of under-/over-estimate.

[quote]We can expect that we’ll continue to see a doubling of cases every 6 days (this is a typical doubling time across several epidemiological studies). Here I mean *actual* cases. Confirmed cases may appear to rise faster in the short term due to new test kit rollouts.

[quote]We’re looking at about 1M US cases by the end of April, 2M by ~May 5, 4M by ~May 11, and so on. Exponentials are hard to grasp, but this is how they go.

[quote]As the healthcare system begins to saturate under this case load, it will become increasingly hard to detect, track, and contain new transmission chains. In absence of extreme interventions, this likely won’t slow significantly until hitting >>1% of susceptible population.

[quote]What does a case load of this size mean for healthcare system? We’ll examine just two factors — hospital beds and masks — among many, many other things that will be impacted.

This is just the beginning. Her full compiled Twitter thread at link.

Random thoughts . . . am binging "Containment"/Netflix; awful writing, but atmospherics/fx/hypothetical is eerily prescient of where we are right now; it's spooky that it's from 2015. On an early episode of "The Walking Dead" Rick opined that EVERYONE had the virus, that not everyone manifested it/it needs a trigger . . .

It's really amazing how small our world can contract to; I'm very grateful for all of the numerous trips/work/school we enjoyed abroad, I'm just not sure of when we can travel next . . . I'm also thankful that we have stocked supplies and should be OK in that regard, but I think the whole thing is larger than any of us have an idea, and that ultra-massive changes are/will happen.

Good luck everyone!

R455 Read up on the Spanish Flu. It didn't just 'come' and then disappear. It came in 3 waves. Firstly a mild one that barely killed anybody, then a second very deadly one towards the end of WW1 and then another deadly wave. 40 to 100 million perished.

I do hope as you hope that this will just go away...but like in the next month.

Italy is using the cops and the military to enforce the lockdown. That’s martial law, right?

Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte signed a decree early Sunday, which will put most of northern Italy under lockdown due to novel coronavirus.

The entire Lombardy region is included as well as 14 other provinces.

CNN is verifying exactly when the lockdown will go into effect.

Draft text:

The text of the draft proposal – sent to CNN by the press office of the Lombardy regional authority – says that people in Lombardy and other 11 provinces should "absolutely avoid any movement into and out (of) ... as well as within the same territories ... except for travel motivated by unavoidable working needs or situations of emergency."

The draft says the police, the fire brigade and armed forces could be used to enforce these measures.

If Trump would die right away, maybe we will be ok.

R472

9 million of them didn’t die, nimrod.

No, r478. What makes you think 9 million will die from this? A hell of a lot of folks with the flu die and the flu is far more contagious than this.

R473

Thank you! I’ve been wanting to post that but didn’t have a chance. Math is not intuitive. Exponential math is hard to grasp. If the numbers in South Korea, Italy, Iran, and Japan, continue on their current trajectory...Holy motherfucking shit.

Anyone who doesn’t realize that China is lying about the number of dead and infected is retarded.

"ITALY: hundreds stormed a train station in Milan and are now crowded in a train heading south, to leave the red zone before the complete lockdown of Lombardy is legally in session. People on Twitter are asking for the train to be stopped."

Shit is getting real!

R479

My God you are stupid. Do you understand anything about epidemiology or exponents?

R474

It is taken me almost a month to begin to accept that the future is going to be radically different in the short term, and might be incredibly, almost inconceivably, different in the next few years.

People must not be taught the “one penny doubled every day for 30 days” thought experiment for understanding exponential growth.

After 30 days you will have 2^30 -1 pennies. 2^30 = 1,073,741,824, so after 30 days you would have 1,073,741,824 -1 or 1,073,741,823 pennies, over $10M.

Conservative estimates show a doubling every six days. Some countries have seen doubling every 12 hours.

Split the difference, and that means most of the planet is infected by the end of May.

Anyone not taking this seriously, especially considering the uncontrolled spread inside the United States at the moment, is a textbook definition of an idiot.

If the fatality rate is 3% without intensive care, and hospitals are totally overwhelmed, big cities will burn.

I'm so not taking this seriously. I've live a long life and there are too many people on this planet.

If I die, I die. We all are going to someday. What good does panicking about a virus that you will likely get and survive do?

When will this blow over?

Summer, R484.

R484 In the second half of 2021. If we are lucky.

R479, read the link at R473. If you don't understand it, find a middle school math teacher to explain it to you. No wonder this country was on its way down the shitter even before this disaster started.

I just read an obituary for a former classmate who had been living in Seattle. The obit stated that "he died unexpectedly as a result of result of respiratory failure." There was no mention of whatsoever of any funeral service. Can't help but wonder if he was one of the victims.

r487, I don't want to go down the shitter. I think I prefer circling the drain; seems cleaner.

Please wash your hands and bleach your keyboards, door knobs, faucets, fridge door handle, your phone and light switches!

and wash your clothes!

R460, that just confirms that you're a right-wing idiot.

😫 We are so, so, so very fucked.

R440, I read both on DataLounge, wise ass. And I posed the question because I wanted an explanation, which I got.

Innumeracy is worse than illiteracy.

tRump's Depends leaked at his CDC meeting, you can see he wet his pants

tRump's Depends leaked at his CDC meeting, you can see he wet his pants

^^^ Official Corona Overload.

He's gonna have to start wearing the heavy duty overnight diapers during the daytime.

#LeakyDonnie

Well since italy is featured, how about #NightsofCorona for the next thread title?

R484 I too am wondering the same. I had my heart set on seeing Lenny Kravitz this summer at Nimes, after years of waiting for him to come back to Europe and tour.

We don’t realise how much we take this jetsetting and cultural travel for granted.

Trump's visit at CDC in Superman vision. Eww!

I was lonely so I made a few title suggestions on the last thread then OP came up with this masterpiece. He doesnt need any help.

I'm not going to bitch at the ones who do. If it takes someone's mind off that we are all doomed for a few seconds that is a good thing.

7m ago 10:48 - Guardian

Iran’s health ministry has said that total coronavirus cases have risen to 6,566, while the death toll has reached 194, according to state television

If we go Italian:

Coronavirus: 8 1/2---17, 34, 68....

La Dolce Virus.

The woman, 36, had been treated for mild symptoms at an Omaha hospital until Friday. Then her infection took a turn for the worse, officials told Omaha.com.

She was transported for more specialized treatment to the University of Nebraska Medical Center, also in Omaha — secured inside what’s known as an “isolation pod” and handled only by “moon-suit” medical workers.

The woman is currently being treated for acute respiratory distress syndrome at UNMC’s Biocontainment Unit.

The world-renowned, 10-bed unit is designed to safely treat deadly infectious diseases while protecting its highly trained staff and the public from contamination.

The unit has only one other patient — a coronavirus patient from the Diamond Princess cruise line, officials said.

The infected woman admitted this week had traveled with her father to England, where she began experiencing symptoms.

She returned from the nine-day trip on Feb. 27 and went to the emergency room at Omaha’s Methodist Hospital on Thursday.

Epidemiologists are now scrambling to trace with whom she may have come in contact, including basketball players at an area Special Olympics tourney, patrons at an Omaha VFW, and more than 30 health care workers at her first hospital.

Snce I'm probably going to die( I'm sure I will be in the percent) should. I get up from bed and get two egg mcmuffins on sale for 4 dollars ?

I remember a few years back I was watching Who Wants To Be A Millionaire a contestant who spend many years in college to be a mathematician and he had a question who the oldest actress I dont remember any of the women except Susan Sarrandon.. He used his math skills and didn't pick SS. I barely graduated high school but I remember ss long ago before OlTL and AMC being on a canceled soap and she sang a song on last episode and she was the oldest and I was right.

Can our friend in Victoria, BC check in please? How are you?

#Love in the Time of Coronavirus when South America takes off.

#One Flu Over the Costco's Stress

Manhattan hardware store hit with fine for coronavirus price hikes

The Garment District hardware store that sells Purell hand sanitizer for nearly $80 a bottle was slapped with a city fine Saturday — because they’re now allegedly jacking up the price of face masks.

Investigators from the Department of Consumer and Worker Protection visited the store a day after The Post revealed the store’s astronomical prices in the wake of the coronavirus epidemic.

But a worker insisted the shop is not gouging — and won’t drop prices.

“We’re gouging according to them,” the defiant general manager at Scheman & Grant Hardware at Eighth Avenue and 38th Street said.

The store, an Ace Hardware franchises, is selling 1200-milliliter bottles of Purell for $79.99.

Ace Hardware offers the same product online for $9.99, though it’s sold out.

“We have ZERO tolerance for anyone taking advantage of an epidemic to gouge prices,” Mayor de Blasio posted Saturday night, alongside a re-tweet of The Post’s story.

“Violations have already been issued to businesses and there will be consequences if this continues.”

The store’s outrageous pricing even caught the eye of Gov. Cuomo in Albany.

“We have reports of stores selling hand sanitizer for $80 a bottle,” he said during a coronavirus-update press conference in Albany Saturday, referencing The Post’s exclusive.

He warned that the State Police will be investigating price gouging reports and yanking licenses when warranted. “You will be caught,” he said.

Scheman & Grant Hardware was also offering jumbo-sized, 2-liter bottles of Purell for $109, but sold out on Friday.

What about Tammy? Will someone please stop and think about Tammy? Is she still locked up in a hotel room?

[quote]The woman, 36, had been treated for mild symptoms at an Omaha hospital until Friday. Then her infection took a turn for the worse.

She was a wonderful woman, a wonderful woman.

What? She's not dead yet? Well then, keep that tweet for tomorrow, you know that cunt won't be able to make it.

[QUOTE] By the end of March most US cities will be under martial law and quarantined indefinitely

Mary! The UK has tested 21k people and only 200 had it.

[QUOTE] By the end of March most US cities will be under martial law and quarantined indefinitely

Mary! The UK has tested 21k people and only 200 had it.

Two Gentlemen of Corona.

The problem with trying to minimize information about the spread of disease by only testing people at death's door is that you wind up with an inflated lethality rate. The US rate will come down as the number tested goes up.

South Korea has adequate testing and good health care and I think the death rate is .8% there. That;'s good news.

The Cities Will Burn Troll is comedy gold.

[quote]“I’m not concerned at all,” the president said Saturday.

I hope to God this was captured on video.

American Hospital Association "Best Guess Epidemiology" for #codiv19 over next 2 months:

96,000,000 infections

4,800,000 hospitalizations

1,900,000 ICU admissions

480,000 deaths

vs flu in 2019:

35,500,000 infections

490,600 hospitalizations

49,000 ICU admissions

34,200 deaths

So relieved to read that specialty infectious disease unit in Omaha has 10 beds!

If we threw Donald Trump into a volcano, would the gods be appeased and would they drop the whole coronavirus thing? I think we should give it a try.

On the bus last Tuesday the guy right behind me was coughing for 6 hours and I really hope he only had the flu. He was not wearing a face mask and sneezing and coughing for hours and probably infected the whole bus if he had the coronavirus. I guess I won't find out for another week or two if I'm infected or not. I wish I lived in SK and could just get a test at the drive thru and know for sure and not infect other people while I wait. Here it is impossible to get tested without any symptoms.

I hope if I'm infected it will be early on, since there are still enough hospital beds available. Everyone else is probably fucked if this situation explodes.

Wow! R516. Very scary

R519 And to make it worse, replicate those figures to virtually every country on the planet based on their individual populations.

Trump: "Everyone who wants a test can get a test and the test is beautiful".

Trump: "Everyone who wants a test can get a test and the test is beautiful".

R518. Indeed the lack of hospital beds and resources is a big issue that many "it's only the flu" people are overlooking. Hope you are well

In a few threads from now we'll straight-up use "Escape From New York" as a title.

We have another Princess Cruise Ship about to dock in Oakland.

We have another Princess Cruise Ship about to dock in Oakland.

⏳ CORONA TIME 8:45 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL :

CASES : 107,502

DEATHS : 3,657

CRITICAL : 6,040

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES :

CASES : 447

DEATHS : 19

SERIOUS : 8

The AHA has disavowed those figures, R516, stating that it was only one expert's estimate. All that being said, that even one expert believes that is a logical estimate is frightening. Especially given that our leadership is desperate to bury any information about this virus and its impacts on the US.

[quote]On the bus last Tuesday the guy right behind me was coughing for 6 hours

Can we have your stuff R518?

1h ago 11:33

Spain has now confirmed 589 cases of the coronavirus - a rise of 159 from Saturday - along with 13 deaths, the Guardian’s Sam Jones reports from Madrid

Psychic Sylvia Browne wrote this back in 2008

I have some good news and some bad news.

It may good if you get it now.

Why?

Because the last big plague, The Spanish Flu, came in waves, as the virus mutated. It was the 2nd wave that was the deadliest.

So relax if you start coughing. If you survive, at least you'll have some immunity.

R531 Well, I hope she gets the 'vanishes quickly' part right as well. And hope she gets the 'back in ten years' wrong.

R516 is there a link or was that from the Friday phone conference?

Parts of Italy are on lockdown now and just like in China, thousands leave the area before the lockdown.

If R518 was traveling on a bus for six hours, he's got bigger problems than WuFlu.

Why don't they dock the ships from #💀CoronaCruises at Alcatraz Island?

"Repurpose" is the Word of the Day.

Why don't they dock the ships from #💀CoronaCruises at Alcatraz Island?

"Repurpose" is the Word of the Day.

Biden and Bernie are both a few heartbeats away from their 80's. Should they really be out there schmoozing on the campaign trail?

The man formerly known as President Trump will now be referred to as [italic] Doctor Demento.

8m ago

Coronavirus cases in UK up to 273 from 209 A total of 273 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, health authorities have said in their latest figures, updating a number which had stood at 209.

what the fuck are they doing in Italy? over 5000 cases, in France less than 1000 cases...

Italy just identified cases earlier. France will experience the same trajectory. Per Forbes:

France is on red alert for an epidemic, as the number of coronavirus cases soared dramatically again to 949 cases, 16 deaths–from 613 infections and 9 deaths Friday.

The country is gearing up to declare a full-blown epidemic. Both Macron and health minister Oliver Véran declared that “inevitable” on Friday. “Currently at level 2 in the strategy to fight the coronavirus, France is "inexorably" advancing towards the epidemic stage after a new leap in contamination,” reports newspaper La Croix. An emergency response plan has been triggered nationwide in hospitals and clinics.

Italians are disorganised people, they've never been good at doing what they're told.

Reuters: All public events with more than 1,000 participants should be called off, German Health Minister Jens Spahn said, adding that up until now organizers had been too reluctant to do this.“Given how fast things are developing, that should change quickly,” he told news agency DPA.

The decree imposing a lockdown for more than a quarter of Italy’s population has now been officially approved by the government and checkpoints are expected to appear at toll booths, stations and other points of entry to Lombardy.

It also provides for measures for all of Italy. Weddings and funerals are suspended throughout the country

Movement in and out of Lombardy and 14 other central and northern provinces is prohibited. People will be allowed in and out for serious reasons, including work reasons, upon the authorisation of local authorities. The decree also puts a ban on all public events, the closure of cinemas, theatres and gyms.

I know r544.

But we have ways of dealing with that.

Blah blah blah. WHO ranks the Italian healthcare system 2nd best in the world. Now continue your tired stereotypes about Italian culture.

I'm off to raid my local Walmart Supercenter for additional supplies.

If I'm not back in two hours, please send hand sanitizer & prayers.

The New York Times described Italy as this: a country with a tendency to interpret laws as suggestions or hurdles to circumvent. Lol.

Egypt is rushing to protect its important tourism sector and reassure travellers it is safe to visit after an outbreak of the coronavirus on a cruise ship on the River Nile.

Officials said on Saturday the coronavirus had been detected in 45 people, including foreign tourists, after the vessel reached the southern city of Luxor. Until then, Egypt had reported only three confirmed cases of the virus.

Also, they are still continuing to go to church! I am not positive but they just tell them they must stand 1 meter apart!? They should still stay home! People can still infect others with dirty hands touching pews etc, sneezing, coughing onto surfaces...

so fucking stupid.

[quote]“I’m not concerned at all,” the president said Saturday.

[quote]Biden and Bernie are both a few heartbeats away from their 80's. Should they really be out there schmoozing on the campaign trail?

It'll be remembered that 'The President' thought Hillary's pneumonia a subject worth mocking and imitating before a baying audience.

If God forbid Biden or Bernie or both succumb, it'll be comedy gold for the Sociopath-In-Chief.

Any tourist destination will be fully contaminated before summer. The biggest tourist destinations are busy 12 months a year.

There is hope yet for DLers!------------

100-year-old Chinese man recovers from coronavirus, the oldest patient to beat illness

A 100-year-old Chinese man has fully recovered from the coronavirus, making him the oldest known patient to pull through the deadly illness, state media reported.

The centenarian patient, who marked his milestone birthday last month, was discharged Saturday from a hospital in Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, Chinese state news agency Xinhua reported.

He was admitted to Hubei’s Maternity and Child Health Care hospital on Feb. 24 with the coronavirus infection, the report said.

The man suffered from underlying health issues such as Alzheimer’s disease, hypertension and heart failure, the outlet said.

He was treated using antiviral medication, convalescent plasma therapy and traditional Chinese medicine, according to the report. The elderly man was then cleared along with more than 80 other patients Saturday to leave the hospital.

China has reported more than 80,000 cases and at least 3,000 deaths, mostly in the Hubei province.

(but i wonder if he's gonna die 4 days later after discharge like that 36 yr old man...)

3 min ago Greece announces public gathering restrictions as coronavirus cases rise From CNN’s Chris Liakos in Athens

The Greek Health Ministry announced Sunday that seven new coronavirus cases had been confirmed, taking the total to 73 in the country.

It also announced that all sports events will be held behind closed doors for two weeks, school trips are banned for two weeks, and that recreation centers for the elderly will be closed for four weeks.

Just returned from a shopping run. At least one Pittsburgh-area Target is completely sold out of disinfecting wipes and almost out of hand soap. Meanwhile, at Costco.

The Eurovision Song Contest is so screwed.

11 min ago CNN

Passengers on the Grand Princess cruise ship will be transferred to federal military installations for medical screening, novel coronavirus testing and a 14-day quarantine, after the ship docks temporarily in a non-passenger port in San Francisco Bay tomorrow, according to the US Department of Health and Human Services.

Nearly 1,000 passengers who are California residents will complete the mandatory quarantine at Travis Air Force Base and Miramar Naval Air Station, and residents of other states will complete the mandatory quarantine at Joint Base San Antonio Lackland in Texas or Dobbins Air Force Base in Georgia, the Department of Health and Human Services says.

Additionally, the Department of State is working closely with the home countries of several hundred passengers to arrange for repatriation to their home countries.

8 min ago

New York confirms 16 new coronavirus cases From CNN's Elizabeth Joseph

Sixteen new cases of coronavirus have been confirmed in New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced this morning.

This update brings the total number of state-wide cases to 105.

I totally lost it yesterday at a diner here in NYC. A guy sitting next to me was coughing into his fist. I asked him to please cough into his elbow. He asked “Why?” I replied “Because when you cough into your fist you’re less likely to pass on any virus.” He said “I don’t have it.” That was the trigger. I said “Did you crawl out from under a rock? You could be infected and not show any symptoms for weeks. PAY ATTENTION!” A woman got up and said “You’re scaring my children.” I yellef at her “I DON’T CARE! THIS IS AN EPIDEMIC! PAY ATTENTION!” At least I didn’t curse. The selfishness and stupidity of New Yorkers is really going to be a challenge in the months ahead.

Oops, of course I said “You’re MORE likely to pass on a virus when you cough into your fist.”

MARY!

Good for you, R561. Tell them NOW so you don't have to tell them LATER.

NYT:

Inside Trump Administration, Debate Raged Over What to Tell Public

The Ingraham Angle Coronavirus Cold Open - SNL

Thanks, R531 - I'm going to be sure to stock up on sanitizer and alcohol in 2029!

Unless we start seeing significant cases of respiratory failure in younger healthier people by the end of the month, the short-term attention span of the public will turn on this.

Ben Carson said on This Week that healthy people should absolutely go to a crowded Trump rally.

George Stephanopoulos was aghast.

I'm all for it, r568.

#Coronavirus Freakout 13: Fortune Cookie Say ...

R570 gets my vote

With COVID-19, You Get Eggroll

I posted this a while ago and my post didn't show up.

I want to be the best friend of R561. Love that you did that.

I collated all of the thread title suggestions but DL rejects my posts when the link goes to surveyplanet.

Coronavirus Freakout: Teahouse of the Corona Virus Moon

R532

There are plenty of cases now of those who had Covid and recovered, then became reinfected - one died from reinfection in China.

There is no clear evidence that you are immune from the virus after getting it and recovering.

R577, there is so far no evidence of cross-strain immunity either.

I voted for "Panic at the Costco", because none of the others sounded very good. But we've already had "Pandemic! At the Disco", so it feels like a repeat. But if we end up using it, there needs to be an exclamation point after "Panic", i.e. "Panic! At the Costco".

I LOVE Panic!at the Costco.

Fuck these racially tinged Asian titles.

So far it's a tie between:

Panic! At the Costco

and

Grey Gardens of Futility

Last thread many people liked "Love in the time of Coronavirus."

Didn't we do Panic! At the Costco already?

I would like to know where you people live that can't find rubbing alcohol, peroxide, TP and so forth. Once again I was at Walmart and didn't see anyone stocking up on any of the products I mentioned. As a matter of fact there is plenty of those products available. Do I need to start sending care packages?

New thread

Mama mia!

#BREAKING latest #COVID2019 update 1492 new incidents reported for Italy. Raises total to 7375.

Bajour!

32m ago 17:27 Guardian.

Coronavirus death toll in Italy rises from 233 to 366 The number of deaths from coronavirus in Italy has risen from 233 on Saturday to 366, officials have said. The 57% increase is the steepest daily rise in fatalities since the outbreak came to light. The total number of confirmed cases in the country now stands at 7,375 - up from 5,883 on Saturday.

133 deaths from the coronavirus in Italy in a single day. Crazy.

^ X-posted with R588

42m ago 17:19 Guardian

Deaths from coronavirus in France rise from 11 to 19 French health officials have confirmed 1,126 cases of coronavirus, with the death toll increasing from 11 on Saturday to 19 on Sunday.

[quote]Crazy

Mayhap it is, and mayhap it ain't.

R592, do you have any recommendations for quality rocking chairs?

I've got a nice one on the old home place. You come and see me. You know the place.

Trump's not alone! The British govt are also fuckwits.

[quote] The Foreign Office is facing a backlash over its lack of clear advice for British people with holidays booked in northern Italy and those currently in areas locked down as result its escalating coronavirus crisis. The department is still advising it is safe to travel to anywhere in Italy, apart from 10 towns where the outbreak originated, meaning flights are still scheduled to depart to Milan and others areas in Lombardy where 16 million Italians are in mandatory quarantine.

FOLLIES!

Miss Nichols

A lament

I vote for Quarantine of Solace

Babs