Straight men becoming gay

Bisexual, probably.

I do understand why this bothers you; I have the same reaction when gay porn stars suddenly switch to performing in straight porn exclusively.

WTF are you talking about? What bothers you? That he's doing straight porn, that he has (apparently) a relationship with a man, or that he's a recent convert? And how or what does your longtime support of the gay community have anything to do with whatever it is he's doing or that you're trying to say?

And what possible insight could anyone here have as to why this upsets you?

You're easily upset and he's not even one of your acquaintances. He's just a porn actor. Watch and wank and move on, unless you have too much free time on your hand. It's baffling. And probably you are mentally unstable. Please seek help ASAP.

Actually, looking at his Insta now, I think he might just be using Jeff Leatham as his sugar daddy. It'll never last, of course. No doubt you'll be seeing a litter of crotchfruit in Tyler's distant future, OP.

Porn is a paycheck. It does not necessarily reflect a performer’s sexual orientation or preferred sexual activities.

In real life, if a guy is “straight” for a large part of his life, then “turns” gay, he was probably bi or closeted all along.

Why any of this upsets you or is even any of your business is a mystery.

OP is crazy! But not fun crazy— crazy crazy.

OP the mistake in your queery (no pun intended) is that the men you are talking about were never straight at all. They live fake straight lives because for some reason they are unable to admit they're gay (or bi in a minuscule number of cases). Sadly lots (if not most) of these gay for pay guys think they're better than those they consider common queers simply because they're willing to have sex with females. It's an ego thing with them.

`Links, please.

I didn't know about Tyler having a boyfriend.

I do remember being a bit pissed when Jeremy Bilding moved to straight porn and became Ryan Driller. I had the hots for that guy. Oh well.

Btw, is this the same Jeff Leatham that was attached to Colton Haynes?

[quote] R7: OP the mistake in your queery (no pun intended) is that the men you are talking about were never straight at all.

Your misspelling of “query” makes it clear that your pun was intended. It’s a shame it wasn’t funny.

Oh shut it you nunce.

Because they were never straight in the first place, just buried in the closet.

[Quote] Especially when they are an a porn actor like Tyler Nixon. He’s still doing straight porn, it is in a relationship with Jeff Leatham and it bothers me.

I never did mind the little things.

Jeremy Bilding is married to a casting director and former reality TV contestant. She... accepts his sex work. It couldn't be me. It's probably easier for Leatham to accept.

How do we know he's dating Jeff Leatham? And I assume this is the same Jeff Leatham that was dating Colbert Haynes?

[quote] How do we know he's dating Jeff Leatham? And I assume this is the same Jeff Leatham that was dating Colbert Haynes?

My name is COLTON and I was his husband - we were not dating.

I understand how he has sex with both men and women. Some people are just "sexual" and most men who perform in porn are "hypersexual". What I don't understand is why the guy would do "straight" porn when there's no money in it, and the girl is the star and sole focus of the scene.

We're not simply talking about someone who has sex with men and women. We're talking about someone who does it for money.

[Quote] What I don't understand is why the guy would do "straight" porn when there's no money in it, and the girl is the star and sole focus of the scene.

Shorter shelf life in gay porn and the performer is expected to do more and more extreme sex acts.

Males performers in straight porn can work much longer and much more regularly while doing the same limited sets of acts.

Tyler Nixon is dating a man? How do you know..

Well, Jeff doesn't have an Onlyfans but...

MARY!

I knew a guy who worked in Porn in the 2000's and he told me the percentage of men who are Bi in their private lives is crazy. He used to do straight gangbang porn specifically, and he would always pick up a fellow actor and meet up for sex later. Every time he worked he take a guy home or get a number! I was shocked when I learned this.

[Quote] I was shocked when I learned this.

I guess you don't watch str8 porn. If I had a dime for every str8 porno I've seen that featured a blown out male asshole...

Interesting that in his old interview, Tyler Nixon was asked about gay for pay: "It's just not something that turns me on, so I’ve never considered it." It was supposedly his primary reason to leave Corbin Fisher. Guess their paycheck was not as good as Jeff's.

[Quote] flying over Austria, on beaches in Ibiza, in Prague castles,

She's a whore, darlin'

[Quote] I have done more evolving in my personal life because of porn.

Ain't that the truth.

[Quote] haha my personal love life is non-existent. Just haven't met the right one yet.

The right ONE, huh.

I think they are just friends but they would look cute as a couple.

[Quote] I think they are just friends

How do you think they met?

R29 I don't know?

....

[Quote] I don't know?

That didn't stop you opining on the nature of their relationship. Do you have an agenda or sumtin'?

r31

Jeez. Jeff has gotten swarthy.

I went to both of their social medias and nothing indicated they were dating or even knew each other.

Scroll to the fourth pic.

And y'all set Colton was the messy one in the relationship...

*said

Tyler thinks he's being slick by not taggin the location at r31.

R35 What does that prove?

That's not Tyler next to him, is it? That guy looks like a local. And he looks to husky.

The same guy is in Tyler's pic at r31.

R40 No! I'm guessing he works for the hotel/boat charter

R41 So they had the same guy driving the boat - and?

Oh wait, I see now. They both have similar pics on their IG's. They both have that chubby guy in the striped towel.

Can't buddies go on vacation together? I went to Hawaii with my straight buddy.

I see you're pivoting from one line of argument to another... why is that?

R44 No, I'm asking you what relevance the fact that they both had the same employee driving the boat is meant to have? Are you suggesting that's proof that the photos must have been taken at the same time and therefore proof that they were there together?

This news was mentioned a while back. You may have to look up the thread. The poster described how Tyler and Jeff were posting from the same places routinely. I don't follow either. That poster described their behaviour and it comes off like a pair who don't want to be linked (while fucking posting the same shit on social media... a real pair of "don look at me!" attention whores"). Why would buddies bother doing that?

So now who's pivoting from one argument to another, R46?

By the way, they aren't the same boats.

[Quote] So now who's pivoting from one argument to another, [R46]?

No. Consistent argument. I linked to two pics showing them in the same place with the same person, who's wrapped in the same fucking towel tied the same fucking way. But no, they weren't there together. It was a different day, heck, a different month. They don't even know each other.

They are the same boats. The ladder on the left moves up and down. It's raised in one, not the other.

I can't quite believe there's a "Nothing to See Here" troll for Tyler Nixon and Jeff Leatham.

Mr. Margaret Whiting aside, are there that many actors who have gone from gay to straight porn?

I have heard about and read about on more than one occasion, married guys who have same-sex relations for the first time in their 40s, 50s and even 60s.

Were they closeted all along, or repressing it or ignoring it I cannot say, but I do know that it happens more frequently than is generally suspected.

[Quote] Mr. Margaret Whiting aside, are there that many actors who have gone from gay to straight porn?

DL fave Dennis Parker.

[Quote] married guys who have same-sex relations for the first time in their 40s, 50s and even 60s.

I don't believe that. First time affairs, sure. Not first time encounters.

R49 And how do you explain the fact that the lever control in the Jeff photo is mounted on the side of the rostrum, whereas in the Nixon photo it's mounted within it? The changes in the ropes holding the shade in place? The colouring of the wood?

Hell, even the fact there's different stuff underneath the benches proves it's not the same trip.

R50 Oh fuck off, you made a stupid attempt to try and prove something and failed. I'd actually enjoy the gossip if it were true, but I'm going to need some more compelling evidence than "two people who rented a boat in the same area took a photo with the same employee"

[Quote] I'm going to need some more compelling evidence

Then fuck off and follow their accounts. Compile a dossier and return.

The lever isn't visible in Tyler's pic but that doesn't mean it's not there. The lifesaver is likely masking it. It's not clear in Jeff's vid how far out the leve is, if at all, from the rostrum.

There guys went out on a trip. You think stuff brought for the trip wasn't used, moved etc.? It's funny how you focus on that but nary a reference to the tour guide's towel... oh, but of course, he only has one. He uses it for every trip.

The coloring of the wood? You're going to be asking how the water appears a different color next...

I have also heard about guys who have experiences in high school and college, then get married and do not do anything with another guy for another 30 or more years, until the wife loses interest and the husband discovers the Internet and adult bookstores

The black towel on the ground in Tyler's pic is wrapped around Jeff in the latter's video...

[quote]I do remember being a bit pissed when Jeremy Bilding moved to straight porn and became Ryan Driller. I had the hots for that guy. Oh well.

The profuse sweater?

r47 it's just gossip, why are you so dense?

It is the same boat and driver. However. The driver's shirt is hanging on the life preserver in both photos and its a different shirt. Plus, the posts are time stamped 7 days apart. They are at the same resort but a week apart?

Hmmm.... Gurlz, looks like we have a mystery on our hands. If anyone can get the Hardy Boys to stop sucking each other's dicks, maybe they'll take the case.

Something tells me Leatham's Google Alerts have lead him to DL... He should relax. He's Kardashian adjacent. Surely it's almost compulsory to date a sex worker when in their orbit.

Are you concluding that the posting time is the same as when shot?

Here's the first reference to the pair I could find on DL. It's reply 595

[Quote] Jeff's been vacationing quite frequently these past few months with porn star Tyler Nixon. His Instagram is instalurk. They haven't posted pictures of eachother but their stories match up when together.

Now... is someone really suggesting that those who "mistakenly" believe they're together simply got lucky and Nixon and Leatham vacationed in the same place and took the same type of afternoon/day trip in a pretty narrow timeframe? For real, who's looking to lie about such an obscure pair, and luck into such circumstantial evidence?

R60 That's a bag on the floor, and the towel in Jeff's photo is brown, at least try.

[quote] Mr. Margaret Whiting aside, are there that many actors who have gone from gay to straight porn?

Stella, I love that you refer to him as Mr. Margaret Whiting since no one knows Marge except you and me.

I guess this thread is a discussion about two particular guys, rather than guys who go gay in general

I had a high school teacher who looked A LOT like Wrangler (during the Carter Administration).

[Quote] I guess this thread is a discussion about two particular guys, rather than guys who go gay in general

Nah. You can always lead the conversation in another direction if you have something to say on the topic.

Ha ha. Margaret Whiting. I get the joke reference.

Here is a thread about Tyler, we should post there.

[QUOTE]It's funny how you focus on that but nary a reference to the tour guide's towel... oh, but of course, he only has one. He uses it for every trip.

Not just him, apparently. It's almost like a company likes to have a professional image or something

I think the thread title and OP was an attempt to lure people into the thread and well... it worked. This thread has 74 replies, versus the 11 on Tyler's own thread. Neither Nixon nor Leatham are DL catnip. Their love that dare not speak its name is another story.

[Quote] Not just him, apparently. It's almost like a company likes to have a professional image or something

Cool. So what's your conclusion? Someone posts on DL over a month ago that these have been posting matching vacation stories for months, and in the last week or so we see evidence that they were in the same place, doing the same thing, if not at the same exact time, then withing days of each other... This is all a coincidence? Something tells me you won't address that.

*within

Driver's shirt is different. Just sayin. Proof is in the pics. Unless there were two employees who went out on that boat.

Or maybe that had so much fun swimming with the fishies, that they went out a second time on a different day.

R76 My conclusion is the photos weren't taken on the same boat at the same time. That's all. That's literally the only argument I've been making, because it's obviously and provably true. I don't understand why that was even argued, and it's hilarious to me that it's taken until R79 for someone to suggest they went on two different trips.

You'll note I never once said Tyler wasn't there with Jeff - just that what was presented as some kind of proof isn't. It's obvious Tyler has some kind of sugar daddy (I assume daddy, for some reason I doubt a sugar mommy). Is that Jeff? Does a "superstar" florist actually make enough money to keep Tyler on so many holidays? Or does he have multiple sugar daddies? And has he actually become gay, or just gay for pay now the end of his "career" is fast approaching?

Tyler is an escort, hence the mysteriousness. All porn actors are escorts. The porn is just advertising for the escorting. The real money is in escorting!

The Fours Seasons in Paris held a special event this past December. Jeff was one of the honorees.

R81 Seems most likely. Guess his Insta bio is a test:

[QUOTE]If you happen to like a picture DM me and I can print you out a 8.5”-11” or 13”-19” photo $25 plus shipping

If someone orders a bunch of photos, he knows they're serious about spending money on him - at least it's not the usual Amazon wishlist

Tyler may just like posting pictures of the Eiffel Tower at that time of year.

Why would the end of Tyler's career be fast approaching. Steve Holmes is pushing 60.

Why couldn’t Tyler be gay 10 years ago when he was still hot? We would’ve had an exquisite library of gay porn from him that lasted forever.

Porn in crap. Hire him and you can have the exquisite in your lap.

R86 I blame Corbin Fisher. The owner probably hit on him and got all controlling - as apparently is his wont according to former CF models, and freaked Tyler out about doing gay porn.

Jeff posts "Big Sur", Nov 1 2019.

Tyler posts "Big Sur", Nov 1 2019.

Same pic as Jeff's 2nd pic at r89, but with Tyler as the subject.

GURLZ, WE'VE SOLVE THE MYSTERY!!! He's an escort! He's a top and Jeff is a bottom. He's become Jeff's traveling companion and he gets paid what 10,000 for the vacation, and then receives oral and fucks Jeff. Nice work, if you can get it!!!

Mirroring poses again,

Well then, it seems a florist with a Melania type approach to design (more, more, MORE) actually can make enough money to keep a guy like Tyler.

Not to be a dick or anything, but would've saved us both a lot of time if you'd just posted those earlier!

Is that Ann-Margret on the wall? Something tells me this isn't Tyler's abode.

[Quote] Not to be a dick or anything, but would've saved us both a lot of time if you'd just posted those earlier!

I already wrote that I don't follow them. I posted as I found.

[Quote] He's a top and Jeff is a bottom.

I... Is this life?

This is enough to send Colton back into the arms of an old client----friend. An old friend.

Did Colton Haynes break Jeff's heart to the extent that he's sought out transactional companionship? Or has Tyler got his eyes on a payout down the line (as the Second Mrs. Leatham) and he's currently giving the boyfriend experience for (relatively) free?

[Quote] Why couldn’t Tyler be gay 10 years ago when he was still hot?

Are we supposed to pretend this guy's looks have gone to shit?

Nice torso.

Costa Rica, Sept 11 2019.

Costa Rica, Sept 10 2019.

He may do porn but he doesn't do Burger King and farts like the former Mrs. Jeff Leatham.

Who are these people?

The older one took Colton Haynes up the aisle.

[quote] Shorter shelf life in gay porn and the performer is expected to do more and more extreme sex acts. Males performers in straight porn can work much longer and much more regularly while doing the same limited sets of acts.

R18 TELL me!

I think for some of these straight male porn actors (they're not stars except for James Deen) having sex with all those hot women kills the novelty for them. Julian Rios is another that started fucking guys in his private life.

Why come up with silly notions like that? People don't fuck the same sex out of boredom. It's already been covered. Money is the key, with possibly a side of mutual attraction.

[quote]I knew a guy who worked in Porn in the 2000's and he told me the percentage of men who are Bi in their private lives is crazy. He used to do straight gangbang porn specifically, and he would always pick up a fellow actor and meet up for sex later. Every time he worked he take a guy home or get a number! I was shocked when I learned this.

Julian Rios told a fan that Voodoo hit on him hard, offered to suck his cock and tried to get him to have sex with him and his wife, but he turned them down. Rios is himself openly bi. An old DLer claimed to have hired Johnny Castle and that Charles Dera used to strip (and more) for men when he was starting out. A French guy claims Manuel Ferrara's love of anal doesn't discriminate, especially when in France. And Peter North/Matt Ramsey continued to bottom in private long after quitting gay porn.

[quote]GURLZ, WE'VE SOLVE THE MYSTERY!!! He's an escort! He's a top and Jeff is a bottom. He's become Jeff's traveling companion and he gets paid what 10,000 for the vacation, and then receives oral and fucks Jeff. Nice work, if you can get it!!!

r92, exactly. There are gay4pay guys who'll get gangbanged on camera for a few bucks. This gay4pay escort is giving the boyfriend experience for considerably more pay and free trips! Where's the mystery?

Would love to see a video of Tyler doing a flip flop with a big guy.

The horror of it all!

Does he ping?

He's kind of a "sexy geek". There's a dorkiness about him.

Off topic: English is my second language, and I can easily miss out some mispells, but OP's text made my eyes bleeding. Tell me, is it grammatically correct or english grammar is a fluid thing? No offence.

Glass houses, r116.

R116

The OP's post is poorly written with many errors.

r116 Yes, it is poorly written, but the guy's mind was probably moving faster than his fingers, so he got a little sloppy. He's an "emotional gay".

You should not use Datalounge as a place to learn English. This is a place to learn vulgarity.

[R117], I didn't have an intension to offend OP. I just wanted to make it clear for myself: is the text incorrect or it's just a norm in informal English?

And I know that my English is far from being perfect and I'm glad if people highlight my mistakes.

The text is incorrect. There are words that are not needed. "to" and "an" and a couple others. He was just sloppily typing which everybody does here. Posting without proof-reading because... well... who really cares! If we can't decipher what you're trying to say, we'll attack your post, but other than that, don't worry about it.

One way to learn English is to watch (English-speaking) American comedy TV shows on Netfilx and turn on English subtitles. Sitcoms will have a more informal way of speaking.

Watch Agatha Christie.

OP is clearly taking the piss.

Are these two still banging?

OP, this is a road to walk down versus other roads , to finally, hopefully, some day, a person who has been untrue to himself and dishonest to others, and probably hurting people along the way, including himself, to becoming who they really are.

There are MANY people who do this and do it in various ways, for different reasons, but what you’re interpreting as an unequivocal black or white, yes or no, situation, is a person on their journey to trying be finally be an honest person, so that perhaps he can become whole for himself and others he encounters.

He is obviously a person who is afraid of being judged, probably really afraid of love, intimacy, and cannot bear being vulnerable. He’s likely a control freak who has to micromanage each and every narrative, inspect nuance in order to root out absolutes, and much like yourself, in this particular case and maybe in others, has to know and know definitively, what the outcomes of every choice he makes are, even if not being in actual true control of what he believes he is in control of. And yes, this is why he can pivot back and forth from gay, straight, or bi: because he mistakenly believes that as long as these are his perceived choices, he is the one in control, and is so wrapped up on that belief system, he also believes that his actions and choices are relevant or align with the perceptions of those who not him (everyone), even though he does not have the power to actually control anyone or anything, including his own personal development and happiness, hampered by his overwhelming fear of letting go, and letting the chips fall where they may.

He’s probably, at this moment in time, anyhow, a horrible choice for anyone looking for an intimate relationship.

He has lots of issues to deal with before he can become the man he wishes he could be, struggling against the man he believes he should be, and being gay, bi or straight, is actually not even one of those issues.

It’s fear.

Either he overcomes it wholly, or he lives an inauthentic life, depriving himself of what he wants the most: acceptance and unconditional love.

Perhaps sexuality is not as fixed as you thought.

My Pool Boy made me gay.

It can happen to anyone

"I don’t understand why , after a man being straight their whole adult life becomes gay."

Because they were never really "straight" to being with. Ever heard of such a thing as "repressed homosexuality?" For some people it takes a long time but eventually they come out as what they are: gay.