Within Treason: Rush Rush (The Impeachment Trial, Part 22)

Link to previous thread for reference.

I can't bear to watch Trump's lawyers lie. They lie with such incredible ease. So fucking certain. Cheney was like that. I watched it until the third resolution was tabled. How can Roberts sit there. He had to have read the brief the House provided every Senator with a copy, and the Chief Justice had to have received one too. Anyone who watched the House hearings had to know.

Gioji

Without witnesses and a hearing, Trump will never be able to convince anyone that he was “exonerated.”

None of them are using their meal break to eat, they’re all heading to the nearest camera to run their mouths. No sympathy for them anymore.

R4

Really?! His fucking moronic cult followers will believe anything their Lord tells then. And the fucking media will play right along. We’re living in bizarro world and it’s not funny in the least.

I must say that Adam Schiff is brilliant. He lays out the evidence in such a way and in such plain language, that anyone can follow and understand what Trump has done.

CNN reporting at least 3 more amendments to go tonight. Also they’re eating pizza on this short break. Long days, late nights and junk food gulped down hurriedly is not a good recipe for these elderly people. Feinstein and Grassley are in their 80s, aren’t they? They’re going to be up way past their bedtimes.

R7 Schiff has crazy eyes though.

that is true r7. He's speaking English. The clowns on Trump's side are just speaking legaleze, and of course Crazy for the boss.

Grassley's bedtime is 9 o’clock. He’ll be snoring at his desk within the hour.

McConnell and Tramp's lawyers have no morals at all...they are just full of lies. Apparently half the country has got the good sense to know they are lying. It all makes me very sad. I feel kind of isolated because half the people I know are ignorant about Trump.

HAKEEEEM!

Don't count on Justice Roberts to ever do the right thing. He is on Pres Bone Spurs' side never doubt that.

Anybody see this?

R13 Love his New Yawk accent. And his sexy face.

Will Roberts ever come out of the closet?

I ADORE Jeffries

R15 Yeah, ForensicNewsNet is such a reputable source..

How can you exonerate someone who keeps committing crimes?

Just a reminder that Trump is anally incontinent from years of prescription drug abuse and wears diapers.

What is, "Forensic News?"

R22 It’s R15’s breaking news! source.

Will Bieber take a shower before the “performance”?

There have been many higher up at Deutsche Bank who’ve committed suicide. Recently Bowers in Malibu who oversaw Trump’s loans. Talk about Deep State.

“Evidence mattahs. The truth MATTAHS.”

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Schiff humiliates Trump's legal team by debunking EVERY lie they told at the trial

I am so fucking proud of Schiff, Jeffries, and all of the litigators from our side today.

Could that story at r15 be that big financial scoop that was rumored to break during the trial?

A billion dollars of Russian money IS a pretty big scoop.

Scott Stedman's website, perhaps coincidentally, is now under a DDoS attack. 🤔

[quote]. Feinstein and Grassley are in their 80s, aren’t they? They’re going to be up way past their bedtimes.

Seriously doubt those two will be going out for drinks afterwards to wind down from a very long day.

#MoscowMitch is old as well. But it's his schedule and sinister strategy.

Sen. Harris: Republicans Are Bogging Down Trial By Handing Out Lies That Must Be Corrected | MSNBC

Why are they spending HOURS laying out their case complete with slides, video clips etc. tonight during the ‘process’ phase? Isn’t this supposed to be happening starting tomorrow?

Mitch was pretty low-energy at some points and does not look well. Hope he survives this trial!

All of you giving the love to Schiff, Jeffries, Demmings and the like need to go look in a fucking mirror and

PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK!

WE, with our votes, our volunteer hours, our sore feet from canvassing, our money, our postcards, our rallies and marches, WE made this possible by WINNING BACK THE GODDAMNED HOUSE!!!

We did this! Never forget that and never doubt that WE can do it again!

Now send our fearless reps some love and burn down those fucking red state senators!

[quote] Hope he survives this trial!

Agree to disagree.

I had to cancel my two gentleman callers scheduled for tonight. Damn Democrats!

But Bill Barr and Rudy understand.

According to WaPo there is a witness compromise cooking where they call Hunter and we call Bolton.

IMO - Burisma offered Hunter a job and he took it. EOS. Hunter wasn't an elected official breaking the law like Dump did.

R39 oh great. He’ll be fucking nervous and go to the strip club the night before and show up no sleep, drunk, crack’d out with a dildo’d butthole.

Link, r39?

I think the Dems took the opportunity to argue their case today because fewer people will watch each day. Also, McConnell can move to dismiss the case at any time.

A motion to delay is a motion to deny.

Link to WaPo story about Biden/Bolton witness deal:

Link to WaPo story about Biden/Bolton witness deal:

Link to WaPo story about Biden/Bolton witness deal:

[quote]Scott Stedman's website, perhaps coincidentally, is now under a DDoS attack.

Here's a link to an archived copy of the page:

I agree FCI. He is completely spineless avoids anything smelling controversial, and always lands on the side of the Conservatives. It isn't Trump he sides with but the result is the same. He is Federalist Society thru and thru. And people need to recognize that the Unitary Executive theory is not just some crackpot idea of Barr's. It is the "theory" they all subscribe to. It sort of dresses up the fact that this is a real bona fide government take over we are experiencing.

R36 I need a mini version of you to sit on my shoulder and cheer me on all day!

This is also very interesting

MSNBC & Sen.Claire McCaskill reporting Senate Repubs have been so “bombarded” by calls from citizens, they’re beginning 2 cave on some of their rules to not allow evidence. They still aren’t allowing witnesses/subpoenas. Keep jamming that switchboard! IT’S working! 202-224-3121.

I don't trust Bolton at all. This supposed Hunter/Bolton deal seems like a scam.

R52 I agree 100%

[quote]the Dems took the opportunity to argue their case today because fewer people will watch each day.

Is it ‘the tv viewers’ that decide this though? In the end it’s the Senators who vote to convict or not. And I guarantee that Grassley, Feinstein, Bernie and all the rest of the octogenarians and almost-octogenarians are either unconscious or numb at this point of the evening.

R51 The “Senate Repubs” have been in this hearing with no electronics allowed since 1pm today. MSNBC are working themselves up into a frenzy of false hope.

Thanks, r49.

Believe me, I had some other things I wanted to say but then the thought occurred to me that this NEVER would have been possible without winning back control of the house.

And that was DESPITE the thugs gerrymandering, lies, smears and election day nonsense.

Every little bit we all did pushed us closer and closer to this point. We made a huge wave of turnout once and we can do it again. We have the power and now we know how.

Sometimes you have to look around and realize what a difference we made and celebrate the success as you plan for greater victories. Especially when people start to get discouraged.

Hang on, everyone. We can do it.

does anyone know why lying is allowed in any House or Senate hearing/session? I find that to be bizarre

It was infuriating to watch those witnesses testify under oath to the House Judiciary/Intel committees but at the same time the repubs sitting in those seats were outright lying.

Now in the Impeachment trial we have the repubs/Trump lawyers lying again while saying the truthful Democrats are lying.

Why isn't there a law requiring everyone to be honest during Congressional hearings?

R54 Yes, the Dems are not going to win this case to have Trump removed from office, but they can win in the court of popular opinion and that will matter in November.

Could the Chief Justice force a recess and continuance until tomorrow?

they're going past 9 PM because the 8 hours does not include the breaks. they've had

The 8 hour rule doesn’t start until tomorrow. This is just a debate about the rules.

R36! I love you. This is the kind of enthusiasm that is going to vote those criminal , spineless Republicans out of office. The Democrats knew that Trump was never going to be impeached out of office. They knew he was going to be protected by the criminal, spineless Republicans, but it's all out there. All of the evidence and all of the coverups. The damage is done and we may not see Trump impeached out of office, but we will see him voted out of office and a Democratic majority in the Senate, too. Honestly, Mitch may think he's winning, but he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't Nancy painted him into a corner.

I like that Sylvia Garcia is 1 of the managers. She is a former judge so she knows how to cut through the bullshit

Erin Burnett said one of the senators fell asleep lol. I wonder who it is.

R64 Senator Risch

Moscow Mitch looks like he's long overdue for a checkup by his veterinarian; he is not a healthy turtle.

This is the longest read in history. It’s almost hilarious to imagine republicans trying to deny it happened with this level of detail and receipts.

Twitter is down. Hmmm wonder why.

R67 Yet they will because they have purposely sought to obliterate the truth.

it's all part of the repub plan

they want to exhaust and wear down everyone so we wonder what the truth is and how much what Trump did really matters

it's just best to ignore the bullshit lies they spew at this point. I mute Trump's team

I’m so glad I’m not a Senator!

Aren’t they going to ask for Bolton?

McConnell is really a sinister, despicable individual

R73 All of the GOP is, really. A party of villians.

[quote]it's all part of the repub plan. they want to exhaust and wear down everyone

It’s the democrats who are going on and on and ON and wearing everyone down though.

I just really hope whatever happens that Democrats really spend a lot of time and money in the swing states this year. Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio (even if it seems lost), Wisconsin, Georgia, Florida, Arizona and even Texas. Just flood those states with numerous tv ads, have the Democratic nominee campaign in those areas constantly.

The only way to stop this bullshit is winning the Presidency back but also flip the fucking Senate. I can't believe McConnell has only been Senate Majority leader for 5 leaders. It feels like forever. Far too long

R75 they keep having to correct the narrative and refute repub lies

I love this!

I have no idea what the hell they’re arguing about at this point. This is getting ridiculous.

[quote]I mute Trump's team

So do I. I'll listen only to the Democrats. I will not listen to the lying Rethugs.

I would need a coffee pot on my little senator's desk to sit through all of this

R81 Claire said you can only have water (flat or bubbled) or milk. No other beverages

R73: With that face, Moscow Mitch could only go saintly good or all-out bad, there was no middle road for the tortoise.

I was also noticing how terrible Moscow Mitch is looking: stooped and ashy. He’s 78, right?

amendment to subpoena Bolton fails 53-47

so the 4-5 repubs who "are open to witnesses" only want to do it after the trial starts

not sure why that is

R84- Perhaps he is 78. What's that in human years?

After watching tonight, I have a real fear that the Senate won't vote to remove Trump. Everyone is voting along party lines and the Republicans have won all the votes tonight.

I say once this impeachment is over, impeach Trump again.

American Oversight just obtained new documents from OMB. The guy in charge is on the phone now on MSNBC. He says 125 documents are still being withheld by the White House but what they got is more concrete proof that Trump ordered the hold of the Ukraine aid

Our guys are great. I think they should take another pole asking Americans how many want to see Trump and McConnell hanging by their necks? Seriously, they should take that pole.

One rethug voted for one of Schumer’s amendments. Not sure which one yet but it was procedural.

The only one that has been 48/52.

Collins caves to the last amendment.

It was a totally irrelevant amendment.

“Mitch was pretty low-energy at some points and does not look well. Hope he survives this trial!”

Ab-so-fuckin-lutely not. My hope is that cantankerous crafty bastard has a massive stroke at the podium, and splits his head wide open upon impact. Fuck him forever. I’m still seething over the Merrick Garland issue.

The democrats won today if anyone is keeping score.

with the number of Senators over the age of 60 how are they going to come back tomorrow at 1 PM? lol some of them are going to be exhausted. Most of the old ones aren't high-energy like Warren is

Ita not just that democrats won, they absolutely creamed the rethugs.

I just hope the media reports this accurately and doesn't do the both sides bullshit. They need to say today that repubs openly voted against getting witnesses and documents before the trial starts. What kind of message does that send?

They also need to report that Trump's team LIED when they said repubs couldn't go into the SCIF or that Trump had no chance to defend himself during the House's impeachment.

It's easy for a casual news viewer who hasn't been following all the details to fall for the repub cries of injustice

Can someone please explain how rethuglicans are justifying voting on evidence “later”? I don’t get that.

Trumpito's lawyers are performing solely for him, which seems to explain why they're so shockingly bad at this.

Schiff gave a master class in prosecuting today. Too bad only half the jurors were listening.

Elie Mystal predicts more screaming and theatrics from Team Trump tomorrow, to keep the infant king happy.

Fuck the screaming traitor tot.

Schiff, Pelosi and the rest of the prosecutors understand this is being tried in the court of public opinion.

The thugs may be playing for an audience of one and his 30%, but anyone with a brain understands this is for control of the Senate and the WH come November.

And the thugs are losing.

When 70% of the country wants witnesses and the thugs won't even consider it, that's not going to help them when election day rolls around. Endless commercials showing the rethug bullshit will start playing starting around labor day.

By the time November rolls around, these lying cunts will be so battered and bloody, they will be relieved to be kicked to the curb.

R100 it's not just for Trump. It's also for the Fox "News" hosts and their idiotic brainless brainwashed viewers

R101 you would think that's case and I hope it is but don't forget the last big Senate disaster-the Kavanaugh confirmation. The polls showed more than 50% of the public did not think he should have been confirmed to the Supreme Court. The public was also outraged that McConnell and the repub-led Judiciary Committee led a sham confirmation hearing with only 1 accuser allowed to testify. Ultimately every single repub except for Murkowski voted in favor of confirming him (she voted "present") and even fucking Manchin joined them. This was right before the midterm elections and the ended up gaining an additional seat. That emboldens them to keep acting against what the public wants. Just like McConnell took a gamble in refusing to hold confirmation hearings for Garland and lesser federal judge nominees Obama had chosen. He thinks he's invincible at this point.

Will Americans FINALLY hold them accountable and flip the fucking Senate back come this November? who the hell knows. It SHOULD happen but a lot of the public is so damn dumb and/or apathetic

R33 - thanks for that link. As always, Senator Kamala Harris is SPOT ON. I adore her and thank God we have her in the Senate. That said, IMO the major reason that Trumpy's lawyers are spouting all those lies is to give Fox News their talking points = Hannity and Ingrham need their lies to be repeated, backed up and re-spewed to let their "viewers"/cult members feel even more secure that Fox News theories/blatant lies are actually "facts". This gives them something to bitch to their kids and grandkids about and start unnecessary fights during holidays. Sad that they are so out of touch and afraid to use the internet to actually...hmmm....FACT CHECK for once? I know that this is new and scary concept for these cognitively-limited cult members.

Guys, in reality we all know that Trumpy will never be removed from office. The numbers are not there - not when the GOP is such a brainless cult. We just need voters who were apathetic and sat home in 2016 to get to the polls this time around. The more dirt that is publicly exposed and the more disgusted the public becomes when watching these lying, cheating, repulsive GOP thugs and their blatant, entitled, tyrannical behavior - the better. They are all accomplices to Trumpy and his gang of thugs in the executive branch - every last one of them.

well we've come to learn that the repub party is in sync with Fox "News" and they coordinate messaging directly with Trump's goons. For people who lean conservative, hearing the same things coming from the politicians and tv hosts reaffirms ideas and has led to an alternate reality.

The base has been convinced that the impeachment is "a liberal partisan sham." This therefore justifies the repubs like assholes in their minds. They have been convinced the Democrats are lying and scheming to bring down Trump on unimpeachable charges and that Biden is really the corrupt one so no matter how dirty and stubborn repubs get, it's all justified.

I wish there was some way to dismantle and expose Fox "News." Why can't a reporter get in touch with Michael Cohen and get all the facts out about his dealings with Hannity, his other client? Surely it couldn't have been a normal lawyer'client transaction

[quote]The democrats won today if anyone is keeping score.

What exactly did we "win"? Trump is right about something: there is no "second place" in politics...

[quote]show up no sleep, drunk, crack’d out with a dildo’d butthole.

Pics please.

As the hours went on, #MoscowMitchYertle had his mind focused on something else.

[quote]I mute Trump's team

Funny, that's exactly what "fair and balanced" Fox did to the Democrats' team.

Bolton if called has to back up everything or he is essentially calling Fiona Hill, LTC Vendiman et al, liars who should be prosecuted for perjury..they were under oath I din't see that happening but then again nothing would surprise me..

Bolton will just sit there and claim executive privilege. And if pressed further, he’ll just quip that he has a book coming out that we should all buy.

LOL at sleepy GOP Senators kept up late because of Moscow Mitch's "rules."

Why aren't they allowed to drink coffee? It's probably because all of the old white guys w/ prostate problems would be running to the toilet.

LOL, R78. All aboard the Deeply Concerned Express!

The Times (UK, paywalled): Trump secretly sold nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia days after Jamal Khashoggi was murdered

Holy Shit, R115. That's huge.

Is Chuck Todd & Ari Melber part of the Trump spin team?

They sounded as such this morning.

WaPo: D.C.'s Attorney General has sued Trump's inaugural committee and business, alleging the committee violated its nonprofit status by spending more than $1 million to book a ballroom at Trump's D.C. hotel that staff knew was overpriced & that it barely used.

The AG alleges that Trump and his daughter, Ivanka Trump, were likely aware of the charges, based on documentssubpoenaed from the committee and the Trump Organization.

The Lincoln Project, a group of never-Trump Republicans, debuts its new ad targeting Susan Collins:

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT: bolton, mulvanney, perry and the others COULD testify if they WANTED to, the president and NO ONE can stop them, but they are choosing not to.

listening to trump's head lawyer pepperoni or whatever the hell his name accusing nadler of being insulting to the rebubs and his team for calling them liars??????????? should he say instead they are using "alternative facts" or maybe "fibbing" would be nicer? THEY ARE LYING, HOW IS THE TRUTH BAD AND INSULTING????!!!

interesting isn't it that trump's ENTIRE LEGAL TEAM THEMSELVES should be investigated for their own crimes and skeletons in their closets!...

From FUX:

In the hastily called press event before Trump was to return to Washington, the president delivered an unsparing assessment of impeachment proceedings, which moved into full swing a day earlier and will resume later Wednesday with opening arguments.

While making clear he's reluctant to approve any new witnesses to testify, he floated -- perhaps playfully -- the idea of personally attending the trial, if only to antagonize the Democrats.

“I’d love to go, wouldn’t that be great?” he said when asked whether he would attend. “Sit right in the front row and stare at their corrupt faces, and I’d love to do it.”

The president joked that the press should not keep talking about his possible attendance or “you may convince me to do it.”

But Trump went on to slam the House impeachment managers—specifically House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who is serving as the lead manager, and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y.

“First of all, Jerrold Nadler, I’ve known him a long time, he’s a sleazebag. Everybody knows that,” the president said, adding that Schiff acts like he’s “so aggrieved.”

“I watched the lies from Adam Schiff,” he continued. “He’s a liar and he’s a fraud.”

“These are major sleazebags,” Trump said. “It’s a total hoax. It’s a disgrace. They talked about their tremendous case and it’s all done.”

He added: “They had no case….It’s a con-job.”

Washington Post:

Senate adopts ground rules for impeachment trial, delaying a decision on witnesses until after much of the proceedings

Impeach him again. Right away.

Politico: Trump casts resisting impeachment as 'one of the greatest things I've done for our country'

During a news conference in Davos before returning to Washington, a reporter asked Trump whether he would consider delaying his State of the Union address to Congress next month in light of the Senate proceedings. The president said he would not, but quickly turned uncharacteristically reflective, proceeding to recount a recent conversation he had shared with Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward.

"He said, 'You're enjoying this, aren't you?' I said, 'No, I'm not enjoying it.' He said, 'No, you act like you're winning and you won. You're actually enjoying it.' I said, 'I'm not enjoying it. I'm doing it because it's very important what I'm doing,'" Trump told the assembled media, before criticizing former FBI officials including Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Andrew McCabe and James Comey.

"I consider what I've done here with this whole witch-hunt from day one — with the insurance policy, with the horrible statements made between Strzok and Page and McCabe and Comey, who lied to Congress and did so many other bad things. He lied and he leaked," Trump said. "When I finish, I think that this is going to go down as one of the greatest things I've done for our country. These are bad, corrupt people. These are bad people, and very bad for our country."

Blah blah blah. He's been impeached already. No resistance needed.

Tulsi Gabbard filed a $50m defamation lawsuit against Hillary Clinton.

Can you sue someone for defamation when that person didn't even say your name?

None of those guys who could testify will testify because Trump has their balls and their spines....besides they are all probably involved in criminal activity, just like Trump.

R126 it's all for show.

People keep saying Hillary is irrelevant, obviously she's not. Everyone wants to use her name one way or the other, hoping it sends votes their way.

She's irrelevant like a lightning rod is irrelevant to a thunderstorm. She attracts the crazy.

The rest of us know she's not on the ballot.

The idiot-in-chief held a press conference in Switzerland today wherein he referred to sitting American Congressmen by name as "sleaze balls" and thus demonstrated to a worldwide audience why he was impeached and is unfit to continue as POTUS.

This despicable individual is the pride of the republican party--never forget.

[quote]Senators kept up late because of Moscow Mitch's "rules."

I recall the democrats being the ones who spoke (and spoke and SPOKE) incessantly into the wee hours. 2am specifically.

Well, they offered to adjourn for the night and finish the next day, but Mitch said no!

Just heard an interview with Trump explaining why Bolton shouldn't testify. He said it's a security risk. That Bolton knows what he has said about foreign leaders and it may cause problems and make his job harder. And that Bolton didn't leave on the good terms and it wouldn't be good for him for someone who left on bad terms to testify.

Hill: Trump downplays seriousness of injuries in Iran attack after US soldiers treated for concussions

"I heard that they had headaches and a couple of other things, but I would say and I can report that it's not very serious," Trump told reporters at a press conference in Davos, Switzerland.

"I don't consider them very serious injuries relative to other injuries that I've seen," he continued. "I've seen what Iran has done with their roadside bombs to our troops... I've seen people that were horribly, horribly injured in that area, in that war.

"No, I do not consider that to be bad injuries, no," he added, referring to the soldiers who were taken for treatment last week.

John Bolton's publisher should threaten to hold an impromptu pre-release interview in which Bolton reads excerpts from his book.

If ours is a just Universe, President Obama's much-anticipated book will be released the day before donald's State of the Union address.

Newsweek:

Trump Lawyer Ken Starr Says There Is 'No Such Thing' as Obstruction of Congress: 'It's Made Up'

"Bolton's going to bring Trump down" is just the latest iteration of "Mueller's going to bring Trump down."

Mick Mulvaney, who remains close with Bolton, responded to a Brian Kilmeade question on whether the WH is worried about possible Bolton testimony. "John is a conservative Republican who runs a conservative super PAC," said Mulvaney, clearly implying that Bolton knows who he's beholden to, and won't do anything to jeopardize his future money flow.

No one pins hopes on Bolton. We'd just like to see how he responds under pressure and to trip him up. No one expects him to turn. We gave that bitch up with the Mueller debacle and Rosenstein run around.

Bullshit, as usual....

AP: Trump says he's open to witnesses as trial rules are set

He appeared to break with Republicans efforts to block Democratic motions to immediately call witnesses and subpoena documents. Instead, Trump said he'd like to see aides, including former national security adviser John Bolton, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, testify as witnesses

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Trump said he'd leave the "national security” concerns about allowing their testimony to the Senate.

You know there's no god, right? Because if there were, he'd have been lit up by lightning ages ago for adultery, bearing false witness, theft, not honoring his parents, and worshipping himself as a god.

Reuters:

Pompeo says he will testify in Trump impeachment trial if required, knowing that won't happen

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I added the "knowing that won't happen"

So Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts has relegated his role in this president's Senate trial to "Playground Monitor?" Got it!

R134: thank you for the linked article.

Nothing, but nothing can compare to donald's fifty-plus years suffering the agony of bone spurs!

Rolling Stone: President Trump said he’s happy with the way the impeachment trial is going thus far because his administration has not released “materials” that would hurt his cause.

"We’re doing very well. I got to watch [the impeachment trial] enough. I thought our team did a very good job. But honestly, we have all the material. They don’t have the material.”

^^Keep talking, donald. Keep talking.

I am paying close attention to House Manager Val Deming's presentation. Yes, she is a relatively nascent politician, but as Vice Presidential candidate she could deliver the state of Florida to the Democrats. Her gender, ethnicity and law enforcement background won't hurt, either.

Offering for your consideration: Biden/Demings 2020.

MSNBC:

Trump blames Fed for slowing US economy

R144, those comments should be quoted on air during this proceeding.

R148 I’m sure they will be. It’s being repeated all over the news.

So...WTF, “Justice” Roberts??!!

From the bozos who brought you the spicy and delicious Liz Warren cougar scandal:

Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman have announced that they have SALACIOUS and COMPROMISING photos of Adam Schiff obtained from a raid on Ed Buck's drug den!

The Long BORING Speeches Troll has a lot of posts in this thread.

Jacob Wohl... what a repressed cocksucker.

The stress is getting to him - Trump went on a rambling, loony attack on 16 year-old Greta Thunberg today. Can you imagine Clinton or Obama acting like this?

The stress is getting to him - Trump went on a rambling, loony attack on 16 year-old Greta Thunberg today. Can you imagine Clinton or Obama acting like this?

[quote] So Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts has relegated his role in this president's Senate trial to "Playground Monitor?"

To be fair, his role is not up to him. It is established by long-standing Senate rules. And yes, he’s basically a traffic cop. He knows that nearly every one of his rulings can be immediately appealed to the full Senate, and thus overruled.

I think he should still make a statement whenever he feels it is important, for the sake of history.

It’s interesting that, unlike a regular trial, the attorneys cannot interrupt each other with objections.

again, the mainstream media should all agree on a media blackout of John Bolton and his book until/unless he testifies. No reporting on his book, no summarizing, no advertising and no interviewing him. Do not let this piece of shit make money and get popular with a book if he's not willing to testify about the same material during the trial

Been trying to call spineless Rob Portman's office and the voicemail is full. Go figure.

And this was after all of his non committal regarding witnesses.

BTW I gave a feeling that fat Donnie is going to go so far out on a limb bragging that the whole branch will just snap off, taking turtle and miss thang and the rest with him.

He can't shut his anus mouth and it will be his undoing.

[quote]again, the mainstream media should all agree on a media blackout of John Bolton and his book until/unless he testifies.

You seem to think that "the mainstream media" operates as a public service rather than a money-making operation.

R156: Yes, we are all aware of his Senate-mandated restrictions, thank you very much.

Chief Justice Roberts is clearly frustrated as evidenced by his premature finger-wagging, wash-your-mouths-out-with-soap warning which was of his own device and, in my humble opinion, overreactive and smug. Save the threats for when the canes are brandished.

[quote] Yes, we are all aware of his Senate-mandated restrictions, thank you very much.

🙄 And thank you for your snarky little response, but apparently R142 was not so aware. Once again:

[quote] So Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts has relegated his role in this president's Senate trial to "Playground Monitor?"

If he was so aware, he wouldn’t have asked the question.

Dianne, stop flashing Lindsey the beav! This is a serious and somber occasion.

R163: you know good and well that I am R142. As requested during our prior encounters, kindly refrain from thread-trolling me.

(End of thread-jacking.)

Donald Trump, A Very Stable Genius, Tries To Read The Constitution | All In | MSNBC

Barbara Boxer: GOP Unable To Defend Trump ‘Because He Clearly Abused His Power’ | MSNBC

Washington Post:

Sen. Paul: 45 Republicans ready to dismiss impeachment charges against Trump

Washington Post:

Senators urge House impeachment managers to tone it down after testy debate

Damage Report:

Fox News' DESPERATE Plea To Viewers

Does anyone here ever email their Senators or call them? It might help.

It absolutely will help. Their staff are taking calls and counting them. You can call any Senator at (202) 224-3121 and leave a message. You can look up your Senators’ emails on Google. Be direct, concise & polite for best effect.

Projection Miss Lindsey? Prove a negative?

This is about your daddy's behavior.

David Pakman:

Deficit EXPLODES, Trump Says "Who Cares?"

I languish in a deep red state, but I did call and leave messages for this state's 2, equally worthless, senators. I used no profanity, so I'd just like to say here...

I've been calling every day for two weeks, r171. Today I couldn't leave a message because the voicemail was full.

So, yes, we are calling and faxing and emailing but they continue to ignore us.

Time for some heads in pikes, I say!

Chris Matthews Calls Adam Schiff’s Speech ‘Most Compelling Case For Removal Of Office’ | MSNBC

Schiff is brilliant and this entire presentation makes me so fucking proud to be a Democrat. Truly. I don't know how those fucking Republican Senators can even hold their heads up.

Hakeem!!!! YESSS! He is connecting the Ukraine mess to the Mueller investigation. First time Mueller has been mentioned. Hakeem Jeffries talks about how Mueller testified the DAY BEFORE the Trump phone call to Zelensky.

Where did the story come from that there are some upcoming revelations that are earth-shattering? I've seen it mentioned a lot here in the last few days but nothing on Twitter about it.

What's the source?

Some shouting in the gallery while Hakeen spoke. The Sargent of Arms was asked to remove the disruptor. Did anyone understand what was being yelled? I am tuned to CNN coverage.

They’re supposed to take a break at 6:00 so we’ll find out then.

The video testimony clips are good. I believe they still have a couple of hours to go tonight (after their dinner break).

Is everyone in Europe laughing at Trump? I read that he just patted himself on the back...what an idiot?

You could never trust Bolton, same as you could not trust Mueller.. Republicans are always corrupt. You would think adults would realize that.

R185....Fuck you and your Mueller bullshit. He did what he was supposed to do...he compiled a report of Trumps crimes and turned it over to Congress to prosecute. He even went on national television and said Trump is a criminal. If you arent happy that nothing happened, blame Barr, who went on tv and lied to the American people about the contents of Muellers report, and Congress...in particular, the GOP who blocked, obstructed and refused to take action.

This whole setup is crazy. Who the hell can sit through each side talking for 24 HOURS (8 hours a day for 3 days) and make ANYTHING out of it? Especially if you’re in your 70s-80s and forced to sit through that shit with hardly any breaks. It’s ridiculous.

R187, take it up with the fucking Repugs. They are making the rules.

I lie for Jesus.

R188 Guess that’s the plan...shock and awe and mass confusion. And numbed-out old people who have been bludgeoned with 24 hours of nonstop talking, in 8 hour blocks.

President Trump, busy working for the American people, today shattered his previous record for most tweets in a day.

As of 6:20 pm, Trump had tweeted 132 times, topping his previous personal high of 123 tweets in a single day.

Just doing the work disgruntled deplorable elected him to do.

These 8-12 hour sessions with a couple of quick meal breaks to maybe grab a slice of pizza (and no coffee allowed!) seems designed to simply wear these people out.

R191 That should be grounds for impeachment right there. The president is crazy!

They’re reporting that Republicans are talking amongst themselves and ignoring the testimony. Also that they’re so offended by the very idea that Trump didn’t win the election fairly (which isn’t being discussed at all in any of this testimony), that they refuse to vote against Trump out of sheer offense.

They do say that a lot of them have never heard any of this before (presumably because they watch Fox and refuse to watch any news).

They’re also saying this entire show is being put on for maybe four or five Republicans that might be somewhat sane still.

[quote]They’re reporting that Republicans are talking amongst themselves and ignoring the testimony.

It's worse than that.

Reporter Michael McAuliff, who was in the chamber this afternoon:

Just counted 21 empty seats on the GOP side of the Senate, 2 on the Dem side, a couple hours into Schiff's presentation. Some are just stretching their legs, but most are not in the chamber. Some of them have been out of there for a while.

It’s also reported that at least 6 Repug senators are wearing Apple watches, in violation of the no-electronic-devices rule. Ted Cruz is live-tweeting (unless it’s someone using his account).

Rod Rosenstein was a Trump loyalist all along, while deceptively projecting an impression he was a by-the-book nonpartisan.

No mention was made on MSNBC of the gallery outburst that the viewers heard during Mr. Jeffries' statement. I suppose that's what happens when the media coverage is controlled by the State.

Biden/Demings 2020

Schiff: 'Trials Aren't Trades For Witnesses' | MSNBC

Shouldn’t the Chief Justice admonish them?

I would like to see Barr nailed to a cross, upside down but Mueller was luke warm , as far as I am concerned...honestly, he fought for nothing, spineless or maybe sick, something was not right with him. We had a parasite in the White House!

I would like to see Barr nailed to a cross, upside down but Mueller was luke warm , as far as I am concerned...honestly, he fought for nothing, spineless or maybe sick, something was not right with him. We had a parasite in the White House!

I mean the Senators that are breaking the rules.

Barr stopped the Mueller investigation. That's pretty clear. Also stopped him from charging the president. Now, I'd guess Rosenstein stopped him from subpoenaing the president.

I imagine she wouldn't, but I'd love it if Pelosi announced new impeachment investigations right now. Saudi Arabia, Khashoggi, hacking and weapons sales, all that crap..

If only to trigger Trump's massive stroke while ragetweeting on the toilet.

We have to realize acquittal is inevitable and see this corruption as a gift for November. Collins, Gardner, McSally, and Ernst will pay for their behavior.

In other news, 3 of 4 polls show Biden leading the primary race and he is beating Trump by nine points.

I aagree Val Demings might be a good choice to run with Biden, if Tammy D. or Stacey A. don't vet right, or don't get enough LIKES.

Tammy D? Tammy Duckworth? For VP? Really???

She has NO leg to stand on.

Trump FLUBS Teleprompter Read, Goes Totally Incoherent At Davos

see here's the deal. people keep wanting everyone else to remember that Trump is a cunt. That has to be drilled into everyone's head, constantly throughout this year. Trump is a cunt. Trump is a cunt. Trump is a cunt. People are not going to just remember that. It has to be a constant reminder. Trump is a cunt.

Adam Schiff has certainly been giving everything's he's got.

adam schiff is certainly doing his best. But this is a phenomenally stupid country with a very short attention span. Trump is a cunt must be reiterated over and over and over before the message gets through.

Can you imagine liking this cunt? Respecting this cunt? Wanting to be in the same room as this cunt? It is really weird. It is so damn stupid.

Dear Mr. Cheeto ...

So what's new, r209?

When is he NOT babble ng incoherently?

Every time I hear someone say "They'll pay when they lose in November", all I can think is that they won't because they'll just all cheat again.

well, they lost big in 2018 r216. I may be clinging to that, but it is something. And every lazy bitch that can't be bothered, BE BOTHERED YOU STUPID BITCH

So today was about the quid pro quo. I guess tomorrow will be about the contempt for Congress and maybe the next day will cover the Constitutional framework for impeachment?

Tomorrow should just be everyone standing up and yelling: MITCH YOU WORTHLESS CUNT, TAKE YOUR CHINESE MOBBED UP WIFE AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

But I'm not Adam Schiff. It may be something else.

Oh lord....

Trump downplays soldiers' injuries from Iranian attack as 'headaches'

another Republican supported by the troops. Hey, troops, keep voting for stupid, you are going to get stupid commanders in chief. that is how it works. maybe stop voting for stupid. maybe stupid people stop sending you into stupid unwinnable wars.

R202 concur. Mueller has impressive qualifications. But when he testified, he looked tired, burned-out really. I believe his age was a big factor. His hearing seem compromised, and one could tell his cognitive processing was off. Still, he had a big team working for him. He obviously felt constrained by the parameters placed on him. He believed it was up to Congress to do it's job, and he followed the DOJ policy of not prosecuting a sitting President.

R131, Would you prefer that the Democrats throw away their allotted time? It's not like they can take a recess and start again the next day around 10:00 a.m.

The trial is still going on as we speak, though it appears that the TV networks are not covering it. I thought yesterday's voting down of the amendments was demoralizing, but listening today I think Schiff is very convincing. I can't imagine what Trump's lawyers are going to do with their allotted time -- they have nothing to work with other than the administration's lies.

Trump's lawyers could sing a Floor Wax jingle and it wouldn't matter- those Republican Asswipe Senators STILL won't vote to convict him.

The more unfair Republicans are...perhaps people will start to see the truth. They need tovdo another pole, to see if people still support Trump. If 60% felt like Trump needed to be removed maybe things will change.

I think the Dems have been doing a great job with the impeachment.

Trump’s lawyers are going to say, Schiff is a liar, move to dismiss.

Also, they’ll say Schiff himself said Trump denied it was quid pro quo. Proves he’s innocent, no testimony or evidence counts.

Suuure, Jan at r222. What Mueller evidenced was the demeanor of a self-aware fraud, a man who knew from minute one that he was never, regardless of facts and findings, going to recommend the criminal pursuit of Trump. He put an extra-legal MEMO above duty and patriotism.

Mueller's cowardly acceptance of those faux-restrictions in the face of a treasonous President was not the only evidence of his Party Before Country stance.

No. The most egregious example of his lapdog nature was Mueller's tortuous syntax "explaining" how Trump was "not exculpated." But was he GUILTY of anything?

Schiff reaching his conclusion (for tonight anyway).

You just know Republican Senators are pissed that it is actually Trump that put them through all this. They won't admit it, and they will still blame the Democrats. It is party first with these people, and denial and lies are acceptable among the tools they perceive they need to sustain politically.

"They need tovdo another pole"

I'll do it!

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Adam Schiff goes viral undermining ENTIRE Trump defense during trial

May Jay Sekulow wake up tomorrow with an uncircumcised penis.

R208, you thought you'd slide that right by us, you little shit!

BTW, she can't be President or Vice President, she wasn't born a US citizen.

I want Schiff or one of the other impeachment managers to call out the chief justice and McConnell and point out, on live TV that there have been 20 or more Senators missing from the chamber for long periods of time. Either they get "imprisoned" or McConnell changes the rules to allow shorter sessions over more days.

Comey warned us, r197.

I bet Hillary knew

John Kennedy, the Oxford educated Senator from Louisiana, admits that a number of Senators seemed surprised by the evidence.

r238, like gambling in Casablanca...

I met a woman from England last week who is becoming a US citizen. She's now living in the South.. She regrets it won't be in time to vote against trump. She was passionate and funny and said she'll do her part by driving people to the polls to vote.

I was heartened to see a person willing to become a US citizen in spite of trump. We really all need to to what we can to get Democrats to the polls this November.

Is it possible for the Senate to convict but not remove the president?

Why are senators allowed to leave the room for hours? I thought they were all required to be there and listen and participate.

^Miss Lindzey had to go tinkle a few times.

Who left to be interviewed by Fox?

R226 what really matters are 2 things:

A) how the mainstream media covers this. Fox is always spewing the same nonsense "Democrats are losing. Democrats are lying. This is a sham. Nothing impeachable." The mainstream media needs to continuously point out that no, Democrats are not lying. The repubs are lying

B) how much of the public in swing states care. As other posters have noted, there are so many stupid people in this country and others who are just apathetic about politics and feel "Democrats and repubs are the same!" which is dumb. There needs to be a big turnout from people who weren't involved in 2016

I think Adam Schiff has done a brilliant job. Exceptional really. But I'm getting tired of him. I think Crow and Jeffries are the break out stars.

[quote]You just know Republican Senators are pissed that it is actually Trump that put them through all this.

A lot of those Senators hate Trump as much as we do. They know he's guilty of the offenses laid out by the Democrats and a whole lot more. But they're so afraid that going against Trump will sink their reelection chances and deprive them of the power and status they enjoy that they have sacrificed every bit of their integrity and decency. It's so, so pathetic. Not a single one of them with a spine. Except for Justin Amash -- and he was hounded out of the party.

We have politicians rather than statesmen in Washington, and it is killing our country. The coup d'etat happened the day Donald Trump was elected.

Brian Stelter:

The executives at Fox News made a remarkable editorial decision Wednesday: They decided to cut away from the Senate impeachment trial proceedings in favor of airing regular programming. It started during the 5 p.m. hour. While CNN and MSNBC continued airing raw feeds showing Democrats make their case on the Senate floor, Fox chose to air "The Five" hosts' opinions on the trial and grievances about the media.

The network never looked back. While some shows dipped into the Senate chambers here and there for impeachment proceedings, Fox mostly continued airing its pro-Trump prime time lineup.

TYT:

Chris Wallace GRILLS Kellyanne Conway About Her Lies

R249 Fox knew that listening to the Dem’s case would anger their viewers, so they just gave them the propaganda they wanted instead. It’s too bad. It would have been good for their viewers to watch some of it.

That’s why they locked the Repub Senators in the room, because otherwise they would be out giving their own opinions instead of listening to the case.

Plus the fact that republicans LOVE to smell their own and each others farts r252.

Washington Post:

Democrats scale back language as Trump and GOP press ahead with attacks on Senate impeachment trial

Reuters:

Trump will have hard time blocking potential Bolton trial testimony

NBC:

Protester interrupts Senate impeachment trial, yelling 'Schumer is the devil'

^

The protester, an older white male, had been spotted in the area throughout the day. Observers in the gallery seemed to know immediately who he was and noted that they'd dealt with him before.

"An older white male"....No wonder he could blend in so seamlessly.

Business Insider:

Senators Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton appear to have broken the no-phone rule as senators struggle without their devices

I moderate an evening "enrichment" class once a week as a volunteer, it's a speech class, and most of the people are older adults. We usually discuss current events, books, movies, entertainment.WTF ever. Of course we spent about ten minutes talking about the Impeachment as it was presented on TV, and this one woman, in her 60's was outraged at all the lies.... she added that she "hated that Adam Schiff, he tells one lie after another..." I was stunned. Several people raised their hand. One other woman, a retired LAwyer, said, "Wow. What did he say? What lies did he tell? Can you be more specific?" And the Schiff-hater stuttered a bit, floundered and finally said, "Well it's just everything. They can't stop attacking this President." I felt like weeping.

Washington Post:

Gordon Sondland plugs away in Brussels with his shit-eating grin while playing a central role in Trump’s impeachment trial

ProPublica:

Donald and Ivanka Trump Were Involved in Inauguration’s Inflated Payments to Family Business, New Suit Says

Weak John Roberts, r242.

WEAK AS WATER!

Guess again, r252. Apparently YOU haven't been paying attention, either. Up to two dozen Republican Senators have left for hours upon hours AND have given FOX interviews during their illegal "breaks."

Keep impeaching him. I want to see this bunch exposed for all to see.

NYT:

Trump Removes Pollution Controls on Streams and Wetlands

I would like the House Democratic impeachment team to pause, and state, for the record, words to this effect: "In violation of the Senate majority leader's own rules of conduct and comportment, I note that Senator Tom Cotton is reading material on his Apple Watch. I also note that Senator Lindsay Graham has been absent from the chamber for 2 hours. . . ."

And keep on doing it as often as necessary.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump defense misrepresents Mueller findings

[quote]Trump Removes Pollution Controls on Streams and Wetlands

The impeachment trial provides good cover for doing all sorts of nefarious things. This particular one is going to actually kill people.

Exactly, r269.

Wow - Senator Barrasso just said a lot of them can’t see the projected emails unless they get up and move nearer the screen or go to the cloakroom and watch on C-Span

Prince Charles snubs Pence and Mother

Pence actually puts his hand out *after* Charles passes him, then he looks disgruntled. Mother looks mortified!

AP: Democrats face risks and limits in Trump's impeachment trial

Democrats were once reluctant to take on impeachment during an election year but are marching toward a decision by the Senate that the American public also will judge.

“We're trying this case to two juries — the Senate and the American people,” Schiff acknowledged Wednesday ahead of opening arguments. “The American people are watching. The American people are listening. And they do have an open mind.”

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Campaigning in Iowa, Biden stood by the effort to remove Trump from office.

“People ask the question, ‘Isn’t the president going to be stronger and harder to beat if he survives this?’ Yes, probably. But Congress has no choice,” he said. Senators must cast their votes and "live with that in history.”

*

On the first day of opening arguments, Schiff appealed to senators not to be “cynical” about politics, but to draw on the intent of the nation’s Founding Fathers in providing the remedy of impeachment and removal. He spoke directly to Republicans to join them in voting to oust Trump from office to “protect our democracy.”

Holding the room proved difficult. Most senators sat at their desks throughout, as the rules stipulate, though some stretched their legs, standing behind the desks or against the back wall of the chamber, passing the time. Sometimes they outwardly yawned. Republicans quietly smirked at the presentation from Schiff and the lesser-known House Democrats prosecuting the case.

When Charles greets everyone but not Pence. Haha. The US is sooo respected. Macron was close. I guess he and his buddies will laugh some more about US officials at the reception later.

That clip is delicious!

Loved that he clapped him on the back after being totally snubbed.

It bookends nicely with....

WH is already denying that Charles snubbed Pence. So delusional.

Looked to me as if he just didn't recognize him, didn't know who he was....although....Charles is accustomed to shake everyone's hand no matter who they are. It's sort of a reflex. So I have to wonder.

It looks to me like the Prince is giving Trump the good old American stealth finger.

Maybe he didn’t know who Pence was?

Really, r282?

Those wetlands protections preceded the Obama administration and were upheld and strengthened during both Bush administrations. These outright assholes and thieves disgust me.

The EPA was started by Republicans, ffs.

HRH is willing to touch murderous war criminal Bibi, but not Mike and Mother.

Hah!

USA Today:

Adam Schiff gets applause from an unlikely colleague: Lindsey Graham – live impeachment trial updates

"Good job today. Very well-spoken,” Graham, the South Carolina Republican, told Schiff, the California Democrat, late Wednesday during an impromptu meeting between the two near the elevators outside the Senate chamber.

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Schiff, the House Intelligence Committee chairman, had just been on the floor calling President Donald Trump’s pressure campaign on Ukraine a “gross abuse of power.” Graham, a tenacious Trump defender, had encouraged the president earlier in the day not to cooperate with Schiff, saying: “I wouldn’t give them the time of day.”

^ Also from above:

Senators can view classified testimony from Pence aide

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When they’re not stuck in their seats at the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, senators will have the chance to review classified testimony from an assistant to Vice President Mike Pence that Democrats have unsuccessfully tried to make public.

After Senate Republicans rejected an attempt Tuesday to allow the Senate to receive classified information into evidence, Chief Justice John Roberts late Wednesday announced an agreement to allow classified information into the record. Senators will have to review it in a secure setting.

The information is part of a description of Pence’s Sept. 18 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky given to the committee by Jennifer Williams, a foreign policy adviser to Pence.

Democrats argue the testimony is corroborating evidence and there’s no reason it should be classified.

Pence's office previously refused Democrats’ request to declassifying the information, saying in a Dec. 11 letter that it would serve no purpose.

“This call was classified when it occurred,” Pence spokeswoman Katie Waldman tweeted Wednesday night. “House Democrats knew the call was classified when they allowed and asked Jennifer Williams to discuss a classified call in an unclassified setting. They are now trying to cover their tracks.”

Pence had previously said he had no problem with the White House releasing transcripts of his conversations with Zelensky.

Also from above:

Trump attacks Democrats in morning tweet storm

Back at the White House after an overseas trip, President Donald Trump didn't waste much time before attacking Democratic prosecutors at the Senate impeachment trial.

"The Democrats are trying hard to damage Republicans prior to the Election!" Trump said during an early morning tweet storm aimed at opponents who have accused him of abuse of power.

Trump also cited pundits who attacked the process, including conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, and singled out Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the lead House impeachment manager, as "Shifty Schiff."

The president, who spent the past two days at an international economic conference in Davos, Switzerland, has no public events on his schedule Thursday.

After a series of private meetings the White House, Trump leaves at mid-day for a trip to Miami; he is scheduled to give a closed-door speech to the Republican National Committee, which is holding its winter meeting at the Trump National Doral golf resort.

Trump is also expected to watch parts of the impeachment trial on television.

[quote] Biden stood by the effort to remove Trump from office. “People ask the question, ‘Isn’t the president going to be stronger and harder to beat if he survives this?’ Yes, probably.

I disagree with Biden’s assessment. At some point, months ago, this may have.been a concern. But the way this has played out, I don’t think acquittal will help him. And it certainly doesn’t make him stronger. The public is very aware that this criminal is guilty as sin and that the Repukes in the House and Senate are nothing but enablers who are covering for him. Not only will he not win in November, but the Rethugs are in danger of losing the Senate.

USA Today:

President Donald Trump lashed out at Democrats ahead of the trial's start on Wednesday. Speaking from Davos, Switzerland, where he had made an appearance at a global economic conference, Trump said the two top Democrats involved in impeachment were "sleazebags."

He also accused them of an incomplete House investigation.

"We have all the material. They don't have all the material," Trump said during a news conference.

Rep. Val Demings, D-Fla., responded on Twitter, saying the president's remarks about not providing all the evidence amounted to a taunt that confirmed why the House charged him with obstruction of Congress.

"This morning the President not only confessed to it, he bragged about it," she tweeted.

[quote]Trump is also expected to watch parts of the impeachment trial on television...

while farting uncontrollably.

[quote]He also accused them of an incomplete House investigation. "We have all the material. They don't have all the material," Trump said during a news conference.

Gee, I can think of a way to remedy that.

Prince Charles skipped over Pence to shake someone else’s hand today at some function. Very cool.

Adam Schiff needs to read into the record the Name and State Barr numbers of the ATTORNEYS who voted for no witnesses and no documents.

All politics are local. Let the Trump defenders put their jobs at risk AT HOME.

Republicans will just continue to destroy our country...why can't people see that?

Is Jared in the back the cutest?

I would like to see Adam Schiff read into the record the names, states and bar numbers odf ATTOTNEYS who voted against witnesses and documents.

Take those lawyers to their local bar associations for disbarment.

See r275, r293.

Regarding Jared, r296...

Ring of Fire: Jared Kushner Is A MASSIVE National Security Threat

I wish they would enter in to the record, all the video of the Republicans comments during Clinton's impeachment.

BTW- WTF happened to "Thou Shalt not bear false witness", One argument heard daily during Clinton's impeachment was his breaking 2 of the 10 commandments. I had a Christian tell me "Trump's forgiven for his lies". I said "he won't even ADMIT them, much less apologize and seek forgiveness. That is not Christian. Trump's lies come from Satan. 'When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.'. John 8:44". That shut him up for a minute.

We need to weaponize the bible and use their hypochristianity against them.

You got your wish R300. Nadler played Miz. Lindz’s 1998 remarks that you don’t need a crime to impeach. Ha!!!

Jerry’s actually presenting a good argument even if he is hard to listen to.

Suck it, Miss Lindsey!!!!

She is WELL I NEVERING as we type!

Sylvia Garcia is giving out handouts "so Senators can follow along." LOL

Sylvia Garcia is giving out handouts "so Senators can follow along." LOL

Sylvia Garcia is a horrible public speaker, Eric Swalwell should have been one of the managers.

Damn it, that fucker walked out of the room right before Nadler played his clip.

Oh, boy, R269!

Daddy Trump won't like this when he hears about it.

Ring of Fire:

Mentally Unstable Trump Claims The Wheel Was Invented In America

I was cheering when they showed that clip of Graham pontificating during the Clinton trial. Only he had dark hair (I didn't know he was balding back on the crown of his head).

Don't forget r310....

Schiff, the House Intelligence Committee chairman, had just been on the floor calling President Donald Trump’s pressure campaign on Ukraine a “gross abuse of power.” Graham, a tenacious Trump defender, had encouraged the president earlier in the day not to cooperate with Schiff, saying: “I wouldn’t give them the time of day.”

This is probably costing all the networks a fortune, hours per day with little to no advertising.

TYT:

Republicans DUNK On Trump's Legal Team

L.A. Times:

House and White House impeachment legal teams offer stark contrast on facts and style

I liked the Nadler tactic.

The 1990s Lindsey looks like he has poop stains on his index finger.

Adam Schiff is now showing clips of Daniel Goldman questioning Lt. Col. Vinderman.

I don’t know about you, but I want Goldman to fuck me so long and hard, that my cum shoots from my eyes, ears, and nose. Yes, I’m THAT hot for him.

Hi Dan...

Hi Dan...

Chris Matthews: It's A 'LOL' That Trump Didn't Abuse Power | MSNBC

Reagan's solicitor general denounces Trump, Barr, et al.

NYT:

Even From Half a World Away, Pelosi Keeps a Tight Grip on Impeachment

USA Today: Democrats use Lindsey Graham's Clinton impeachment speech in Trump Senate trial

Trump’s attorney Jay Sekulow said his team was composed of lawyers from many different schools of thought on the level of conduct constituting an impeachable offenses, and “the actions alleged and the actions of the president, do not reach that level regardless of your school of thought”

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., quipped, “I thought Lindsey looked a lot younger,” when asked about the video of Graham.

Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., said the consequence of being in politics for a long time was sometimes contradictory positions.

“That’s the irony of being here a long time, and all the different dynamics you might be part of,” Braun said. “I don’t think you can hold that against Lindsey, since I think you can hold that against almost every Democrat that is currently here today that was there over 20 years ago.”

So, according to the article at r324, Pelosi is attending state dinners and ceremonies.

Clay face Lego pence and fat Donnie are personna non gratas on the world stage.

Go figure.

It's so boring. I know they won't convict but do you think this will move the needle? Is this worth anything?

Republicans don’t think Trump asking Ukraine for a political investigation is wrong because they investigated the hell out of Hillary solely for their own political gain. It’s part of their playbook.

R328- 1) " Republicans" at this point don't think. Period. 2) They know Damn well that what Trump was REALLY doing wasn't just a Political Investigation but asking a Foreign Power to interfere in a Domestic Election/Rival's Campaign- something which is CLEARLY A VIOLATION of our Constitution. And 3) the Republicans aren't even claiming #2- their Argument is that Trump was asking the Ukranian President to assist in Investigating Corruption in the Ukraine, which is absolute Bullshit, because in exactly ZERO other circumstances around the entirety of the Globe, including the Ukraine, did Trump feel the need to insert himself in such a personal and highly punitive way as he demonstrated in this incidence " Corruption".

Watch this....

Brian Tyler Cohen: Greta Thunberg responds perfectly to swipe from Trump at Davos

Not sure Garcia speaking so long about Hunter Biden was advantageous to the House Prosecutors. Understood they want to preempt part of the Trump defense narrative that will focus on Hunter as a big deflection, filled with misrepresentation. Democrats don't have to defend the Bidens even if something there is not pristine concerning Burisma. The Bidens are not witnesses or defendants. Don't take the bullseye off Trump. And don't give Republicans an opening on the Biden deflection which they intend to yap for hours when it is their turn.

Here's Miz Lindz already trying to promote doubt on this factor. Just saying....

You just know the Dems will have Greta Thunderstorm at the convention.

Some Democrat needs to point out that the President of the United States' going to a foreign nation's leader to insist on his launching a police investigation of a PRIVATE AMERICAN CITIZEN, AKA Hunter Biden, is the HALLMARK of a TYRANT.

"Will Trump target YOU next?? Who will STOP him from asking another world leader to go after an American citizen?? YOU Republican Senators? NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO STOP TYRANNY IN ITS TRACKS. Not tomorrow; not November; not after you leave public service. NOW."

This blonde Democrat speaking now has me changing the channel. She has awful vocal fry.

People forget...THE ENTIRE GOP ARE ON PUTINS PAYROLL....its public knowledge

If she says "let's listen" one more time I'm gonna puke. Mind you, we're playing the Senate Trial drinking game.

R334/R336 = Gym Jordan

You upset so easily, R337.

Reuters: How long can the U.S. Senate sit still? Twenty minutes

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Some Republicans who remained seated had another way to distract themselves, after small toys known as fidget spinners were handed out at a private lunch of party members before the hearing.

"I saw somebody grab up a few of them, so they must have some real anxiety going along with this," said Senator Mike Braun, adding that he hadn't needed one.

The blatant obstruction of justice is even worse than the election tampering. I can’t believe Republican Senators are going to all the executive not to give up any documents! This could be the end of Congressional oversight.

^allow the executive

CNN:

Chuck Schumer: Senators can work longer hours for fair trial

Brian Tyler Cohen from last May.....

Jeff Daniels goes viral shredding Trump in MUST-WATCH speech

I'm so proud of the House managers. They've made an overwhelming case, and without any cooperation from the WH.

But the Senate? It's stuffed with cadavers. The senators won't allow cameras on them because you would see body parts falling off as they sit there.

FWIW, there's a house that I pass when I have to drive a different way to work that has had this stupid gigantic tRump flag flying since 2016.

I drove by it last month and it was still there.

I drove by today and it was gone. Just the American flag was flying. I was hoping someone had set it on fire but someone is probably just embarrassed.

I fully expect to see it return when the complicit traitors refuse to remove this stain from the WH.

But today I laughed at it.

WTH is a Trump flag?

Jesus Christ. Chris Cumo is a terrible anchor/host. And I mean TERRIBLE! I have seen public access shows with better hosts.

Chris is a likable guy. He would do well on the today show doing segments here and there or maybe a game show or something but he is just worthless as a serious news host.

I’m having trouble understanding what happened with Jeff Bozo’s texts and the SA connection.

Anyone?

This filthy rag, r346.

R347, he was on Colbert tonight. Not sure if it was new or a rerun. All I kept thinking was that he was a complete fucking asshole. Then, he started talking about his good friendship with Kellyanne Conway and how she's not really lying, she's just supporting other people's lies. What a fucking loser. He also looks like he has bad breath.

You can email McConnell here and demand that witnesses and evidence be presented. Takes two minutes.

Comic relief indeed @ R311. The stable genius's insights are also to be heard in this erudite riff on Elon Musk: "…He's also doing the rockets, he likes rockets, he does good at rockets too, by the way…"

No-one surely with political authority has ever spoken like this before - like a keen child, or a mature adult with lifelong learning difficulties. One watches and listens in a trance of disbelief, yet again.

R340 remember presidential power over congressional oversight only applies to a repub president! Democratic presidents must live up to a much tougher standard.

I was in school during Clinton's impeachment trial. Was it on the big 4 (ABC CBS NBC FOX) too? or just the cable news channels?

to my dismay my local channels don't all seem to be showing the whole thing. CBS in particular isn't. I'd think something like this is more important than the latest Judge Judy, Ellen or soap opera?

it should be on those 4 non-cable channels at least until 5 PM when local news starts

Morning Joe just replayed Schiff’s powerful conclusion from yesterday in full. One more day to drive the point home. They’re never going to get Blackburn or Paul, but there are may be enough reasonable Republicans listening who will vote for more witnesses and documents. From there, as Trump irrationally responds, there is a chance that he could still be removed. At least he has been seriously dishonored by this process.

Here is the 9 minute clip

[quote] No-one surely with political authority has ever spoken like this before - like a keen child, or a mature adult with lifelong learning difficulties. One watches and listens in a trance of disbelief, yet again.

The most disturbing aspect of all this, R352, is how he has bent the narrative to allow his stupidity and venality to be largely unremarkable. At this point, he gets away with saying or doing just about anything because he’s said so many outrageous and inane things that anything new is met with a collective shrug of the shoulders. It is despicable how he has so corroded the norm — aided by an indifferent and complicit media.

CBS News: White House warns Repubs, "Vote against the President and your head will be on a pike"

I like the idea of heads on pikes these days, and it couldn't happen to a nicer group of folx.

I may or may not have gotten hard while watching Schiff's speech. I have never thought him attractive until now.

The Hill: Republicans are using the threat of a protracted executive privilege battle as a cudgel to dissuade their colleagues from calling former national security adviser John Bolton to testify at President Trump’s impeachment trial.

As the Senate barrels toward a make-or-break moment on witnesses next week, Trump allies and members of leadership are warning that calling Bolton, or any current or former administration officials, to testify could draw out the impeachment fight for weeks, if not months.

Newsweek:

#RightsMatter Trends After Adam Schiff Impeachment Trial Speech Goes Viral

Politico: Pro-Trump groups have a new impeachment enemy: Republicans

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For Donald Trump’s impeachment trial, conservative groups decided that ad buys attacking Democrats weren’t enough — they wanted Republicans to hear from the president’s supporters in person.

Their message: Acquit Trump now. Don’t call witnesses.

“I just feel it’s wasted so much of our time,” said Lisa Woods, 55, a Trump supporter and mother of five who came over 400 miles from Medina, Ohio, this week via the conservative group FreedomWorks.

Woods, who was bused in with roughly 60 other activists, came to pressure the few moderate Republican and Democratic senators who can ensure the trial ends swiftly by rejecting proposals to allow testimony. “I think he’s done a lot of good things that the public doesn’t know because they’re always talking about impeachment,” she said of Trump, adding that she wasn’t all that familiar with the Ukraine saga that led to impeachment.

[quote]I may or may not have gotten hard

If you're not sure r360, chances are good that you did not.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

From r365....

NYT:

Democrats Seek to Pre-empt Trump’s Defense in Impeachment Trial

[quote] Woods, who was bused in with roughly 60 other activists, came to pressure the few moderate Republican and Democratic senators who can ensure the trial ends swiftly by rejecting proposals to allow testimony. “I think he’s done a lot of good things that the public doesn’t know because they’re always talking about impeachment,” she said of Trump, adding that she wasn’t all that familiar with the Ukraine saga that led to impeachment.

These are the people who make me weep for our country. Their brains don't function properly to see the lack of logic in their thinking. Essentially she is saying that if only the fake news media would tell everyone how wonderful Trump is, no one would care about the illegal things he is doing. And to top it off she admits to not being that familiar with the Ukraine saga.

NYT:

Trump Tries to Walk Back Entitlement Comments as Democrats Pounce

Political party or mafia family? From Raw Story:

Republican senators received a violently metaphorical threat before the impeachment vote. One of President Donald Trump’s confidantes said GOP senators were warned not to vote for impeachment — or else, reported CBS News. “Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike,” senators were told, according to the confidante. It’s not clear who delivered the message or how it was sent.

The Republican Senators went into meltdown because Jerry Nadler (who I grant you is annoying as fuck given his Eyeore is obviously his spirit animal) accused them of a cover up.

How then will they react to this? (Rhetorical.)

She "thinks" he's done a lot of good things, r369, yet doesn't/can't name a one.

The shouting protester that was removed from the Senate gallery the day before was a pro-Trump, anti-abortion activist.

I finished reading "A Very Stable Genius" last night and this morning went to post my review on Amazon, but they are blocking all reviews except from customers who bought their copies from them (something I've never seen before.) Then I went to Barnes and Noble, where I bought my copy, and got a server error message when I tried to access the "Very Stable Genius" page. I just tried it again and it's still down.

I'd give it three out of five. It's nothing that anyone who's been following reputable news sources wouldn't already know but it's a decent primer for how the stage was set for the impeachment, with Trump acting like a classic narcissistic manager faking his way through a job he's entirely unqualified for, taking all the credit while using, destroying and abandoning a series of masochistic enablers.

The Republicans determined to acquit him a foregone conclusion, are really screwing up. By denying witnesses and evidence, documents to be entered into the proceedings, they will forever have this unresolved. Blocking, stonewalling, obstructing one or two pieces of evidence is one thing. But this universal policy of completely denying access is going to backfire HUGELY. When you have more than 60% of Americans saying they want witnesses, and this is denied, it will carry all the way to election day.If you have evidence and witnesses who will exonerate you, then why block them?

They’re not going to vote for witnesses or testimony unless there is something stunning presented today. There was some wavering at first, but now the Repub talking points are taking hold. Wonder if Mitt Romney will even still vote for them.

Moscow Mitch and the WH are determined to end this by the Super Bowl (and the SOTU Address). Defense "Nightmare Team" probably won't even take most of the 24 hours allotted to them.

That's all they care about.

Ugh, thinking of Trump taking a victory lap at the Super Bowl makes me sick. I wish he would get loudly booed again.

Gloating White House aide to reporters: "I can't wait for the revenge"

Gloating White House aide to reporters: "I can't wait for the revenge"

Eric Ueland can't wait for revenge.

Rep. Richard Dangler @RDangler · 21h Replying to

@DanielPFlatley

I will make it a point to be there next January to hand Mr Ueland a goodbye balloon from Safeway as he carries his cardboard box out of the White House.

A recording reviewed by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired – and speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman.

The recording appears to contradict statements by President Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be President Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. Okay? Do it."

From r381:

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rmc @Thelast_try

·19h

Looked him up . This is what is listed for his role in the impeachment trial :

“Ueland assists Cipollone in trying to ensure Republicans on Capitol Hill are in lockstep with the White House during the impeachment proceedings” Is this a threat ?

The president talks like a gangster. I wish more people could listen in on him when he wasn’t aware he was being recorded. He’s bad enough in public.

I take nothing for granted but I do believe Republicans are going to come out of this looking bad enough that it will impact Independants and the middle, even some moderate Republicans, to a degree that there will be enough voters feeling "enough" that they will vote for a (sensible) Democratic nominee.

The Intercept 11/8/16:

DONALD TRUMP RECRUITS CORPORATE LOBBYISTS TO SELECT HIS FUTURE ADMINISTRATION

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“Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you the American people,” Trump says in his closing campaign advertisement, followed by flashing images of K Street, Wall Street, and Goldman Sachs Chief Executive Lloyd Blankfein.

But the Trump transition team is a who’s who of influence peddlers, including: energy adviser Michael Catanzaro, a lobbyist for Koch Industries and the Walt Disney Company; adviser Eric Ueland, a Senate Republican staffer who previously lobbied for Goldman Sachs; and Transition General Counsel William Palatucci, an attorney in New Jersey whose lobbying firm represents Aetna and Verizon. Rick Holt, Christine Ciccone, Rich Bagger, and Mike Ferguson are among the other corporate lobbyists helping to manage the transition effort.

NY Post: Matt Gaetz says he was kept off impeachment defense team over war powers vote

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In an interview with Politico, Gaetz said he wasn’t entirely sure why he was kept off the team, but he has been told by someone in the White House that Eric Ueland, the legislative affairs director, was “responsible for the brushback.”

r389, it appears that Gaetz did not understand that he had to be loyal to Trump over the vets in his district. Gaetz was sorely mistaken.

[quote]Gaetz was sore

Pics please.

CNN:

GOP senator questions patriotism of Purple Heart recipient

Reuters:

U.S. says 34 troops diagnosed with traumatic brain injury after Iran strike

[quote]“Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike,” senators were told

That's my boy!

CNN:

Cuomo: Impeachment managers debunked Fox News' talking points

r384 So why is he telling mob goons to take out the ambassador when he's President of the United States and can recall any ambassador he wants at any time? Why all the cloak and dagger following her every move?

I know people think it's nuts, but I firmly believe there were more conversations and he put a hit out on her.

What a moron, Jay, not Val.

Ring of Fire:

Tucker Carlson Bizarrely Claims Adam Schiff Had No Friends In High School

r348 All the dots haven't connected yet, they are slowly evolving. It involves Kushner/Trump, Jamal Khashoggi, Turkey, Syria, the Saudis, and Bezos. It seems to be so convoluted that it is taking months to sort out. Remember Biden briefly raised Khashoggi's murder during the December debate?

r348 All the dots haven't connected yet, they are slowly evolving. It involves Kushner/Trump, Jamal Khashoggi, Turkey, Syria, the Saudis, and Bezos. It seems to be so convoluted that it is taking months to sort out. Remember Biden briefly raised Khashoggi's murder during the December debate?

R393 According to Trump, “They were just headaches, nothing serious.”

Trump is evil

R375 Thank you for posting that. Was there anything that stuck that you hadn't heard before?

R400, did. Bezo turn a blind eye?

Washington Post:

Trump, Democrats keep their distance as GOP moderates face crucial impeachment votes

The Guardian:

Trump's threat to muzzle Bolton could undermine constitution, experts say

The "Take her out" Trump tape puts him in a meeting with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, the guys he claims he "does not know." I hope this is just the first of many recordings Lev turned over to Adam Schiff.

[quote] "Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be President Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. Okay? Do it."

[quote] On the recording, it appears the two Giuliani associates are telling President Trump that the U.S. ambassador has been bad-mouthing him, which leads directly to the apparent remarks by the President. The recording was made by Fruman, according to sources familiar with the tape. The White House did not respond to an ABC News request for comment.

[quote] with Trump acting like a classic narcissistic manager faking his way through a job he's entirely unqualified for, taking all the credit while using, destroying and abandoning a series of masochistic enablers.

Who cares? The stockmarket is doing well.

[quote]U.S. says 34 troops diagnosed with traumatic brain injury after Iran strike

[quote]According to Trump, “They were just headaches, nothing serious.”

The way out of this routine self-serving mendacious disjunct is for Trump to resort to a previous sociopathic brush-off: "They knew what they signed up for."

[quote]Trump's threat to muzzle Bolton could undermine constitution, experts say

So, in other words, just another day in this godforsaken administration.

There are several points I want to make here.

First, let me point out that a grand total of sixty people attended this rally for fat Donnie? Well, there were THOUSANDS of Marchers on the mall this past weekend. Marchers who were mostly pissed off suburban moms. You know, that demographic that rethugs can't afford to lose?

Second - sounds to me like fat Donnie is starting to turn on his enablers. That's going to be his undoing. Let them shiv each other while we sit back and laugh.

Third - these fools seem to have forgotten the ass kicking we gave them in 2018 after they tried to take away the ACA. Paul Ryan laughed and thought he was safe. Like the pathetic coward he is, he quit. Then WE kicked them in the cunts and put Pelosi in charge.

Lastly, more people are watching this than these fools think. They figure they have the fux noise demographic locked down but people are seeing this everywhere. You can't run from it. Schiff is everywhere. The YouTube channels are bogged down with people watching.

We know the Senate won't remove him. Be ready for the backlash but fat Donnie can't touch Schiff, Jeffries, Pelosi or Demmings or anyone else. So chill.

This isn't over. It's one battle and #teamschiff has bloodied the hell out of this fool. They may come out with their precious traitor but they are weakened and bloodied and Pelosi still has plenty of knives left.

[quote]with Trump acting like a classic narcissistic manager faking his way through a job he's entirely unqualified for, taking all the credit while using, destroying and abandoning a series of masochistic enablers.

[quote]Who cares? The stockmarket is doing well.

It's true that many people are letting things slide because it has been advantageous to them financially. I was just talking to a neighbor yesterday and she said she thinks he's an idiot but she appreciated getting a good mortgage rate on a house she just bought.

Money trumps(!) integrity in today's world.

R381, revenge cuts both ways. Does he ever go to restaurant or order take out? Does he ever walk across busy streets? Get a flat tire, etc. All I'm saying is the intimidation and threats have consequences and they should be aware that there is definitely going to be some push back.

CNN:

CNN analyst on Marsha Blackburn's attack on Vindman: 'Just embarrassing'

From FUX:

Trump becomes first president to speak at March for Life: 'Every life brings love'

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The president, who for years was pro-choice, has since embraced a pro-life position and made clear Friday he plans to continue that agenda as he seeks re-election. Underscoring Trump's stance, his administration hours earlier moved to challenge California over a rule that mandates insurance plans cover elective abortion.

"It is my profound honor to be the first president in history to attend the March for Life," Trump told the crowd in Washington. "Unborn children have never had a stronger defender in the White House. ... Every life brings love into this world. Every child brings joy to a family. Every person is worth protecting."

The president also panned Democrats' stances on abortion as "extreme" and went out of his way to thank the "tens of thousands of high school and college students who took long bus rides to be here in our nation's capital."

"When it comes to abortion, Democrats … have embraced the most radical and extreme positions taken and seen in this country for years and decades and you could even say for centuries," Trump said, accusing many of supporting "taxpayer-funded abortion all the way up until the moment of birth."

"Once again, President Trump’s administration is delivering on his promise to protect human life and all Americans’ freedom of conscience," HHS Secretary Alex Azar said. "Under President Trump, HHS has been vigorously enforcing the statutes Congress passed to protect Americans’ consciences and institutionalizing these protections within the department’s civil rights work."

Trump also touted his judicial appointments at the March for Life rally. The president's largely conservative appointments to federal courts have led many to believe Roe v. Wade -- the landmark Supreme Court decision that prohibited states from banning the procedure at certain points during pregnancy -- may be in danger of falling if a challenge to it reaches the Supreme Court.

"We have confirmed 187 federal judges who apply the Constitution as written, including two phenomenal Supreme Court justices," Trump said to loud applause.

Vice President Mike Pence and his wife Karen also appeared at the March for Life via video. They were in Rome representing the United States, and Pence mentioned that he thanked Pope Francis at the Vatican for the work of American Catholics in the pro-life movement.

"I couldn't be more proud to be the Vice President to the most pro-life president in United States history," Pence said. "Life is winning in American again."

The March for Life's timing is significant as it takes place near the anniversary of Roe v. Wade. The actual anniversary of the ruling was earlier this week.

I would love to see an ad where Marsha’s comments about the soldier and the headache comment and selling out the Kurds and all the other swipes these rethugs have taken at the military.

They appear to be completely unraveling so we might just have to settle for letting them eat each other.

Newsweek:

Rudy Giuliani Defends Ukraine Actions, Claims Witnesses Will Say The FBI and DOJ Were 'Being Controlled by Hillary Clinton Partisans'

Marsha Blackburn = that über-Karen nobody wants to wait on at Applebee's

From r417:

Fox & Friends host Brian Kilmeade asked the former New York City mayor if Giuliani's investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter in Ukraine hurt Trump.

"I would say the way I approached it is for the benefit of the American people," Giuliani told Fox News. "When the Vice President of the United States corrupts the president of another country, that is about as horrendous a crime as you can find."

Giuliani accused both the FBI and DOJ of being corrupt, when Kilmeade suggested there is an apparatus in place to investigate accusations like those made against the Bidens. "The apparatus to look at this refused to look at it," he said. "The witnesses will tell you they tried to get this information to us for a year."

So now Schiff is going through a meticulous explanation, a tutorial really, about Why Ukraine is Important and it is extremely important. It places Trump's actions in context that cannot be ignored. No way can they say this does not rise to the level of removal. For starters, Ukraine possesses 1500 nuclear warheads. Yes.

Mad man Rudy still screaming about Hillary. I wish they would use that conspiracy theory as their argument. ASsholes.

Rudy was supposed to reveal the voluminous evidence against Biden in his noon podcast today. I haven't seen anything in the media, so I guess he punted again.

Ring of Fire from Jan. 4th.....

Trump Supporters Promote Conspiracy That President’s IQ Is 156

Unfortunately, r422, he couldn't because his dog ate it.

Hunter Biden is the McGuffin in this case, it wouldn't matter if Burisma paid him $1 million per month - he was a private citizen, under no obligations to anyone.

Pence lies as much as Trump.

Then he goes around talking about his special relationship with Jesus.

Impeach him too! He must be denied replacing Trump by any methodology.

[quote] Pence lies as much as Trump. Then he goes around talking about his special relationship with Jesus.

Is there anything more infuriating?

Dad loves unborn babies more than me. This makes me so sad.

Farron Cousins, RoF.....

Trump Tells Reporters He Never Lies, Then Tells 14 Straight Lies

I'zhe right on thlat, R422

You know Schiff is Chairman of the House Intelligence committee. As I listen to him right now, you can tell he has been saving this for the past three years. He is kicking Trump's ass SO HARD today, using the Ukraine to tie him to putin for ever. He is speaking out loud in the well of the Senate on national TV all the things we have suspected since 2016. Wow. This is explosive.

Schiff is pointing out the many links of Trump to Putin.

R431 Your post wasn't up when I sent mine. I'm glad someone else here is paying attention to Schiff.

"Rudy, we're done"

MSNBC:

Trump Trial: See Four Of Mitch McConnell’s Own Senate Veterans Fact-Check Him On Convicting POTUS

R432....Thats for the American people because most of the GOP in the Senate...if not all...are on Putins payroll...its documented

Schiff is often a powerful orator.

I was driving in the car listening to him and I was so sickened and sad as he pressed the point: It will happen again... it won't stop.

And it won't. And the Republicans will do nothing. So it will happen again.

R396, It not only is NOT nuts; it's CLEAR that Trump was ordering a lethal hit, without the subtlety of Henry II.

As President, Trump himself could have simply called Amb. Yovanovitch and said, "You're fired!" He's said it before.

He demanded, "Take her out! I don't care!" to Parnas and Fruman ("I don't know them"), known thugs.

Parnas provided evidence of the Ambassador's being followed and tracked electronically.

Yovavovitch had just attended the funeral of a young woman also fighting Ukrainian governmental corruption, murdered by thrown acid.

She in the ensuing wee hours got a phone call to leave for the U.S. ASAP. Next plane. The caller referenced turmoil in the White House, per Yovanovitch's testimony as to the meaning of "down the street."

Trump said, re: Y.: "She's going to go through some things."

Kushner is highly implicated in the murder of Khashoggi, and he would never act without Trump's imprimatur.

Barr is highly suspected of having Epstein murdered. Trump was a known friend of JE (former employee of Barr's father), convicted pedophile.

IOW, Trump's background, milieu, and disposition as well as current context and deductive logic, all lend themselves to the educated assessment that Trump wanted anti-corruption crusader Yovavovitch---a woman worthless to him because not a sexual object; an obstacle to his extortion plot to smear Joe Biden while denying military aid and moneys to Ukraine, thus pleasing his owner and master Putin---

assassinated.

"Take her out" sounds like a death threat to me.

Thanks, r439.

Thanks, r439.

Miss Lindz is tweeting as if her clit has been rubbed heavily with IcyHot cream. This is during the presentations. She doesn't so much defend Trump, but is attacking the Bidens instead. That will be the deflective defense strategy.

I worry people are getting impeachment fatigue.

Hats off though to the Democrats speaking over the past few days.

Pobrecitos! "Impeachment fatigue" after one week!

I trust none of these babies were sentient in 1974.

December 1998 to mid-February 1999. Clinton's impeachment and trial.

There is no plausible reason the Republicans can come up with to defend him.

They are giving the Senators the respect to meticulously make their case. If only An impartial judge could hear this! There would be no doubt of conviction.

I don’t understand the argument that there is going to be an election. The whole point of impeachment is a process for removing a president from office between elections.

Secretary of Shitheads Mike Pompeo unloads on NPR reporter

Jim Acosta, CNN: Trump defense team to go after Biden

Biden FORCED Trump to blackmail a foreign power into investigating him! Very crafty, Joe!

A tweet reply to Miss Thang:

Wow, R449. Everyone should read that NPR story about Pompeo. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the Italians knew how to deal with people like that.

Wouldn’t you love to know what the Chief Justice is thinking? Will he really just sit there and let the president’s defense team lie and obfuscate? Will he really just go along with no witnesses or documents?

Yes, the POTUS has the power to simply recall an Ambassador, and fire them. So IMO Yanacovich knew stuff, bad shit that could expose people. Don't forget this Ukraine bullshit goes back to Manafort and corrupt oligarchs before the 2016 campaign.

Look at the Ambassador's history and her previous postings. She has been in some dangerous places. When Trump said, "She's going to go through some stuff." and other menacing comments and then, "Take her out..." this needs to be looked in to.

The Russians are known for throwing acid, poisoning people, falls off balconies, and "jumping" out of windows, and then of course the people who just get gunned down, shot at point blank range while walking across a bridge.

When the Ambassador said she felt threatened, and she gets a 1AM phone call that she has to leave immediately for her personal safety, and Embassy security spirit her out of the country in the middle of the night, and cowardly Pompeo neither defends or attempts to protect her?

This is some bad shit. I hope Manafort, Trump, Barr, Jared, etc. all reap what they have sown.

They’re STILL AT IT. 4th straight day of nonstop TALKING for 9-12 hours at a time.

Is this really necessary for them to make their case? It’s getting laughable at this point. There’s just not that much to this, guys.

Republicans are being warned that if they vote against Trump, their heads will result in being on a pike.

Suggesting violence againt influential people who oppose Trump is getting more frequent and less disguised.

This is criminal insanity.

Damn. All these foreign names sound alike. The Ambassador's name is Yovanovitch, NOT Yanakovich.

Nadler: "He is a dictator"

R495, I think it's incredibly compelling and very well presented. The Democratic House Managers have made a very strong case for the removal of Trump from office. They have been clear, organized, articulate and passionate. AND, they have the documents and videos of previous testimony to back them up.

Schiff will bring it home tonight! He’ll tie it all up and demand justice.

Tomorrow is MUST SEE TV if youre into the shitshow that Trumps idiot lawyers make their case...Sekulow was on tv earlier bringing up Biden, Burisma, Mueller, etc...if anything, it should be entertaining.

The poster who told me there weren't any scandals waiting to drop on Trump NOT related to the Ukraine - please read the linked article. The Jamal Khashoggi scandal is blowing wide open:

Chris Matthews just farted again on air.

Junior Mint thinks projective name-calling makes him intelligent.

Daddy? Daddy? See Me! You love me too, right Daddy? Did I help Daddy?

R462 I don't know if I can take it, but then again, I want to be watching when they get down to the dregs and try to cast blame on Hillary's emails. Just like they did in the House impeachment hearings.

Yamiche Alcindor, PBS:

Joseph Bondy, Lev Parnas’ attorney, tells me he turned over an hour long iPhone VIDEO recording to House Intel Committee of Pres Trump saying he wants to get rid of former Amb. Yovanovitch. Bondy says he hopes this will lead to a “tipping point” & Parnas will get to testify.

I doubt that I will watch tomorrow; I'm sure it will be boring. We've heard it all before. Fun fact: Sekulow runs some scam Jews For Jesus "charity" from which he has skimmed tens of millions of dollars. Dershowitz, of course, is connected to the Epstein mess. Not only is Trump a crook, but his LAWYERS are crooks.

Joseph Bondy appearing on a special Rachel episode tonight

[quote]Not only is Trump a crook, but his LAWYERS are crooks.

Don't forget Ken Starr

I hope Bondy brings clips of the ONE HOUR VIDEO of Trump mentioned at R468.

How Citizens United Got Us Trump with Robert Reich

Veterans group demands apology from Dump over comments on brain injuries.

How Citizens United Got Us Trump with Robert Reich

Thank you R351, I just sent him a letter.

FOX is not showing the Senate proceedings since the early afternoon. They are running their regular propaganda shows and a marathon of commercials.

I only flip briefly periodically to see if they are covering this in prime time. Bet they will show the defense team in full.

Claire McCaskill is annoying.

Well, what do we think? Is there still a chance? Is it all over but the voting?

I guess we’ll have the questions section even if the defense doesn’t use its whole time. I assume that session will be contentious with lots of speeches posed as questions.

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Pompeo CRUMBLES in interview when reporter calls him out to his face for lying

'Toxic Mess': Clash At Impeachment Trial Over What Trump Knew | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

Let’s hope Parnas has more recordings. What we really need is a Lonesome Rhodes moment like A Face In The Crowd.

Among those interviewing Miz Lindzee, the reporter kneeling down holding the mic is cute.

Thanks for the Robert Reich clip R476. Wow. We really are at an outstandingly pivotable point in our nations history. We will see if the long campaign to dumb us down and feed our apathy has been successful.

Do we still have some of our founders blood stirring in us? Or will it be "Eh. What's for dinner?"

Politico:

Republicans livid after Schiff cites supposed threat to GOP senators

NYT:

Democrats Fail to Persuade Republicans, but Hope Voters Are Paying Attention

OMG! Adam Schiff claims Trump is a vindictive meanie! Who knew? Such slander! Well, we'll show that pencil-neck!

Business Insider:

Trump is threatening a damaging new trade war with the United Kingdom after Brexit

Washington Post:

Recording of Trump calling for Yovanovitch’s ouster appears to corroborate Parnas’s account

IMPORTANT:

The Biggest Political Party in America You've Never Heard Of with Robert Reich

[quote]There is no plausible reason the Republicans can come up with to defend him.

Which is why they won't bother to try. It'll be all Biden is crooked, Obama spied on Trump, Hillary is the antichrist and Adam Schiff is a lying liar who lies all the time.

NBC:

Who is Dmytro Firtash? The man linked to $1 million loan to Giuliani ally has a shadowy past

R487, That's what they're livid at? Seriously, after what has been presented to them about Trump , THAT'S what they're clutching their pearls over? If it wasn't that, they would have found another innocuous comment to be outraged by. They are looking for any reason to let Trump slide.

ABC:

Why is Vladimir Putin racing to amend Russia's constitution?

I thought Schiff's discussion about why Ukraine is important was extremely eye-opening. I would safely bet that even many of the Senators didn't know Ukraine possesses 1500 nuclear warheads.

Trump previews today's defense in a tweet this morning:

Our case against lyin’, cheatin’, liddle’ Adam “Shifty” Schiff, Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, Nervous Nancy Pelosi, their leader, dumb as a rock AOC, & the entire Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrat Party, starts today at 10:00 A.M. on @FoxNews, @OANN or Fake News @CNN or Fake News MSDNC!

So the propaganda networks will air Trumps defense, but not the House prosecution ?

TYT:

Susan Collins Admits Something She Shouldn't Have

You expected otherwise, r499?

The Republicans will say that what he did doesn't rise to the level of impeachment ,and then justify his actions with other things he said, and present the utterances of this serial liar as "facts." After that they will justify his push to have the bidens investigated and pivot to attacks on the Bidens and the Democrats. The supreme irony is that no one has profited more from their father's connections than Ivanka, Jared, and Donnie Jr. Cippolone is the White House Counsel. He should not be part of this "Defense team." The Republicans are playing to Trump and his base, and Fox news. Period.They will not be confused by actual facts.

^ But Adam Schiff already went over all that yesterday. LOL

CNN:

Tense moment leaves key GOP senator shaking her head

Can. we really be sure it was the tense moment?

Susan Collins: "I was totally going to uphold the Constitution until Adam Schiff was mean to me."

Oh, yes, heaven forfend, we upset the Rethugs.

Pat Cipollone attacks Democratic House managers for withholding evidence -- ignoring the fact that his client is withholding tons of evidence from House managers.

"Susan Collins admits something she shouldn't have"

You tell that lyin' whore she can go to Hell!

It blows my mind these clueless elderly people are upset Schiff threw in their faces what's been reported in the outside world.

One of the things the Senate is called, I've read, is 'the last plantation.' This bizarre, unreal civility and courtliness exists - which enables #MoscowMitch to do what he likes but God forbid anybody talk about it.

Well, good for Schiff. He threw it in their faces. The rest of the fucking party should throw it in their faces too. This moment transcends party and transcends their political future. They are going to set a dangerous political president that they have in their power to present. But they do nothing. I almost can't believe it. They're like the French aristocrats as the world collapsed around them. That party deserves to go the way of the Whigs.

The heads of Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins on pikes would be a complete waste of two perfectly good pikes.

Why is anyone acting like they're surprised that Republicans are acting like Republicans?

Collins head would just jiggle off its pike anyway.

I don't understand how so many people continue to give Collins the benefit of the doubt. Not so much here but I'm a lot of other forums people are always touting how she's expressed her concern and therefore she just might break from the Rethugs this time!!!

The Hill: Trump unveils Space Force logo

After Trump tweeted the new logo, some Twitter users - including Star Trek actor George Takei - highlighted and joked about the similarity to the logo for Starfleet, the fictional space exploration and defense organization from Star Trek.

She and Murkowski are plainly looking for any rationale to do the wrong thing. If hurt feelings seems like a defence her latest concern is only she can't find any cover.

You ju

^ judge, dammit

[quote]The Hill: Trump unveils Space Force logo

Collins and Murkowski were always going to do the wrong thing no matter what.

Here’s a pic taken by a local Maine TV station of Collins' notes from the Democrats' presentation. She invited them into her office to try and show how "concerned" she is, and how "seriously" she takes her "responsibility." All the usual buzzwords she employs to talk down to her constituents. Here you can see she's written "not true" next to one of the items ("Senate has always subpoenaed docs"). She’s looking for any excuse to cover herself in her inevitable vote to acquit.

Sen. Sherrod Brown:

[quote]Donald Trump doesn't want witnesses ... and new information and documentation. Therefore, Mitch McConnell, who is Donald Trump's lapdog, doesn't want information and witnesses; therefore, 52 other relatively spineless Republicans don't want witnesses, don't want information. They're scared.

[quote]I talk to Republicans all the time quietly, individually. Many of them tell me that Trump's a liar. A few said Trump's a racist. They're all afraid of him. They're afraid he'll campaign against them in their state. They're afraid he'll attach a nasty nickname to them. In this chamber, it's like the Iraq war when I was in the House 15 years ago.

[quote][bold]Fear does the business. Republicans are afraid of what Donald Trump will do.[/bold]

Yeah, R517, just further proof that Dotard only ever gets any idea from things he's seen on tv.

Has Collins' concern ever led her to do the right thing? Even once?

^Genuinely asking. Not even trying to be snide about it.

No, R524.

The only time I can remember Collins doing the right thing was voting to repeal DADT

How much concern did she express over that, R527?

That wasn't an unpopular decision, though. Multiple Republicans voted for it. It just seems like since her Kavanaugh vote she doesn't give a fuck.

Actual guts would be Olympia Snowe voting for cloture for the Affordable Care Act even if she didn't ultimately vote for passage.

Why can't there be a real Rethuglican hero like... Jeff Flake!

Fuck Jeff Flake and his weasley ass.

Jeff Flake was a joke.... both in the comment at R530 and in life.

I wonder where McCain would have stood during these proceedings.

Don't waste your time wondering. He'd be standing right alongside the rest of the Rethugs.

R534 is exactly right.

He was just as bad as Collins. For all of his preaching about the evils of Drumpf, he voted with him each and every time.

House Intelligence Committee live-tweets rebuttals to defense bullshit

I honestly just can't wrapped my brain around how Republicans can knowingly just keep supporting someone who breaks the law and is obviously very dangerous.

Be glad you can't. It means your not a sociopathic, greedy, asshole, R537.

One month before Parnas was indicted, his wife received wire transfers from a bank account in Russia totaling $1 mil. The source was a lawyer for Dmytro Firtash.

Firtash is "at the dead center of the greatest corruption operation in Ukraine's history."

Curious those of you who have Drumpf supporters in your lives, what are they saying about the trial?

I have a neighbor I don't talk to who is a loud mouth Drumpf supporter. He was out in front of his house last night talking about how there was going to be a "day of reckoning" for Democrats because they're so evil for always lying and witch hunting.

Seriously?

That must be a talking point because I heard some guy at a restaurant the other night use that same phrase, "day of reckoning."

Must be a Fox news special.

Fox Soundbite no doubt.

Fox Soundbite no doubt.

Deplorables are too easily manipulated.

That's why they're deplorables.

There should be a thread:

Describe the Deplorable in your life.

It would sound like everyone was just describing the same person.

Sadly it'd also sound like people could be describing some BernBros.

Claire McCaskill on Republicans upset by Schiff citing that CBS report: "Come on, guys. Listen, for anybody in the Republican Party to complain about overreach with President Trump in the White House, really? It just doesn't—as we say in the Ozarks, that dog doesn't hunt."

Here is Trump’s entire defense strategy: Lie, smear, look over there, Biden, Burisma, Obama, Hillary, repeat.

Trump’s defense team is so bad, it’s like he actually WANTS to be removed.

The impeachment trial boils down to one thing.

Are you going to believe the witnesses who testified, or the ones that won't?

Oh God that photo at R557 is so fucking sad because it's so fucking true.

R557 truer words.

I think that after Nixon the Republican Party resolved to never let another Republican president get taken out no matter what. So they built up this political machine that enforced total party discipline. The idea that Trump is this unprecedented crook is not really true--he's just more open about his bentness. Reagan and Bush Sr. really should have been impeached for Iran-Contra, and the Democrats did their best to at least document and expose their blatant crimes. George W. Bush committed gross violations of domestic and international law and Cheney was totally on the grift, but the Republicans not only kept a firewall around them but Democrats played along with their post-9/11 "this is war and anything goes" mentality. So what the Republicans are doing right now to protect Trump at all costs is not at all unprecedented, just a continuation of nearly half a century of deliberate policy.

SethAbramson: The simple explanation for why today's presentation was so short is something I alluded to yesterday, which is that this is a rigged trial and Trump's lawyers already know they're going to win. Why should they talk and talk, when each word they say could help cost them a victory?

^And each word a case for disbarment.

Wouldn’t it be great to hear what Chief Justice Roberts thinks of these arguments? Do you think hw would automatically just acquit Trump?

Going to have to start the new thread a little early so if someone can link to it towards the end of this one, it would be great, thanks.

Does anyone really have any faith in Chief Roberts?

Nope.

I cant wait for the new thread because I can't fucking stand that Paula Abdul song and it gets stuck in my head every single time I click in here.

But thanks, OP!

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out:

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out:

Schiff’s out there saying, “They got nothin!” He sounds like he’s making a rebuttal argument in court, but it’s a press conference. Guess he didn’t want to just leave their accusations unanswered all weekend.

Seth Abramson: I mean, I know they're coming back Monday, but they had EIGHT HOURS allotted for their defense today, and we just got 150 MINUTES. There's no way around that fact.

Thanks for the new thread, OP!

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Adam Schiff is doing the Lord's work.

And I love Adam for doing everything that he does.

I haven't seen any recent polls.

Apparently the Poll Troll does not visit here!

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Schiff’s colleagues look totally grim standing behind him. Are they jealous?

I was wondering where America stands on acquittal now.

Poll Troll is too busy with all the DLers lining up to give him a BJ. I hope OP of these threads has a line too!

They should be jealous that Schiff has bigger balls than all of them.

Schiff is everything.

Anyone mind if I just close this thread out now? Pretty close to the end anyway.

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