“The Witcher” Reviews & Spoilers Thread

Oh, the embargo drops. I thought for a split second the show is finally premiering.

Omg, no, the show actually premieres on the 20th, just checked! Woohoo, I know what I'm doing tomorrow...

The Wischer

A former co-worker who is now based in Manila, was able to take a selfie with Mr. Cavill. She said he smells of Creed Aventus and b.o.

Well it's officially released. Who's watching?

I’m so disappointed. This was the only ass shot they could come up with?

And it looks so round and full too.

Yep r5. It's a complete disappoint. We all assumed a butt shot was a given, but a quick shot from the side is all there is.

The show feels like a cross between Gossip Girl and Game of Thrones produced by SyFy.

They fucked up Triss and her storyline in more ways than one.

Triss

I wonder how much Netflix paid for the fake reviews on Imdb. There are about a handful of real reviews in a sea of fakes and obsessed fans.

"What was your ailment, clubbed foot? Split ends?"- Geralt.

Yes, that was a real line from the series. Each episode makes me want to watch it less and less.

"tell me how stuff works" - Yennefer

Someone needs to out Netflix for their clear as day fake reviews on IMDB.

The reviews are scathing. As bad as the Cats reviews.

OP what the fuck is wrong with you? How the hell do you even manage to use a computer let alone post on Datalounge? You are one of the rudest son of a bitches I’ve ever encountered on here in years. There’s already been a thread on this OP. As a matter of fact, you selfish asshole, there have been several threads on this, but ohhhh nooooo “I don’t have to do a search” says Mister Head Up His Ass. Well pull your fucking head out of your ass for once in your life you selfish son-of-a-bitch and have some consideration for others for a change and do a goddamn search first. Is that going to kill you? Is it? Can you just answer that question? Can you? Is it really going to kill you to do a search first? What is wrong with you? Are you that much of an idiot that you can’t use Google? Don’t even try the old “search function doesn’t work” line because every cunt on here knows how to work around that. Do a search before you post a thread next time you fucking asshole. You’ve ruined my day and I hate you.

R16, you dumb cunt, in the time it took you to write that rant of yours, you could have just scrolled on by and done yourself (and us) a big favor.

I'm still going to check it out. Just won't be in a rush about it lol

silly question as i'm new to netflix.. this is going to be a series with episodes yes, so i guess each episode can be watched and re-watched if you miss a episode yes?

Buffy the Vampire Slayer meets Game of Thrones . Meh!

Watched episode 1 . Lids came down in 20 min. Game of Narcolepsy.

How disappointing

So far I've read almost 6 identical 10/10 reviews by different users on IMDB. What kind of shit is IMDB running? Clearly Netflix's hand is in on this.

Lame and boring as expected.😴

So, by Ep. #2, we have Henry/Witcher story line, hunting down... someone, accompanied by an anachronistic bard.

Humpback girl with powers gets sold to a low-level Hogwarts.

Blondie screamer princess (family massacred or dead by suicide) hides out with commoners and a Black elf.

He takes a bath in ep. #4, which is all there is to look forward to.

What was with the Darth Vador voice they gave Cavill? Everyone was speaking in a normal tone, and then he speaks his one or two words as if it was recorded in a studio and not the natural environment. Weird aF.

[Quote] Buffy the Vampire Slayer meets Game of Thrones . Meh!

[Italic] Great [/italic] combination [/italic].

Didn't it seem like American Horror Witches when Yennifer went to witch camp?

i wanted to see his gorgeous ass one more time before it starts to sag in a couple years

[quote]i wanted to see his gorgeous ass one more time before it starts to sag in a couple years

I tried telling you all that he won’t show it but nobody believed me.

😛😛😛

Yawn.😴 So his shirt is off - big deal. Hardly getting me hot and bothered.🙄

I tried to watch and lost patience with it. I hate shows that expect you to know the source material it came from.

R34 suit yourself

I agree R35 The word destiny is thrown around so much I could make a drinking game out of it. They are trying so hard to force their plotlines down our throats I ended up just gagging.

not the first time I suspect

Stunning visuals, over the top fight scenes, unintelligible plot-what's not to love?

I don’t understand what’s happening but it’s very pretty to look at and the fight scenes are very good. I will rewatch the pilot while ironing to try to make sense of the plot.

yup- perfect background noise

Read a recap of the first ep on Vulture so I'd know what was happening and barely made it through 15 minutes of the show itself. It's just that boring and ridiculous.

Has Madame Cavill gotten naked yet?

They mixed modern slang and some proper english "from back then", it's just weird, they keep throwing some fuck off every now and then.

I have stop trying to understand who is who where and when, I hope they never make a flash back.

When they've put pictures of the set on social media it looked cheap, but it's actually look good on screen, they must have spent a fortune on cgi.

R43 She only shows us her teats

R44 wait until you see some of the monsters then.

R46 Ah? Ok then.

They keep mixing accents, some scottish, irish, english, etc...

Bitch stole my act.

I mean...

Beautiful Geraldo R49

Gracias ^

Disappointing. So few nude butt shots and no full frontal in this show.

Spartacus Blood and Sand this show is NOT.

Hot guys wasted being adorned in full body armor or clothes... DISAPPOINTING indeed.

You can't behade somebody with a sword, it takes an axe to do that, and a chopping block, a big one.

Yes you can

Swords were the preferred way to behead A-listers.

Yikes - Rotten Tomatoes is at 58%.

It is terrible, apparently.

[quote]The main feeling I got as a viewer was bewilderment, not enjoyment. The same goes for the show's weird messaging and lacking characters.

[quote]So yeah, this is some high-school level Dungeons & Dragons role play with a multi-million-dollar budget

[quote]Who was that character? Which group do they belong to again? What timeline are we in? The whirlwind of scarcely explained backstory turns you into your hopelessly lost parent who just can't seem to figure out how to DVR Criminal Minds.

and the one by an obvious DLer.

[quote]I suppose we, dead baby included, can't be as lucky as Henry Cavill's leather, only experiencing The Witcher in tiny doses and getting to do so while being worn to death by the mortal hug of Cavill's thighs.

R36 Not impressed. The one thing that could have made this terrible show bearable would have been if he showed his ass. But as expected, it’s all covered.

Definitely won’t be watching again unless someone says he shows his ass.

Hedgehog wedding jumped the shark.

Maybe he'll show his ass in season 2.

I watched the first episode, was hopelessly lost, perhaps because I fell asleep for part of it, but I’m not so sure, it seems to have no discernible plot. Not sure I’m willing to try another episode, I may be done.

[quote]I watched the first episode, was hopelessly lost, perhaps because I fell asleep for part of it, but I’m not so sure, it seems to have no discernible plot. Not sure I’m willing to try another episode, I may be done.

No, according to most reviewers, you probably wouldn't have known what was happening even if you had stayed awake and taken copious notes.

It's apparently a mess (as many leaks suggested) and you'd only know what was happening if you read the books or played the games, and even then, you'd still need to stay awake and take copious notes.

How does Henrietta keep getting lead roles when he has flop after flop? His projects are simply shit.

Three concurrent story lines that have yet to connect at all.

I also would like a map, like in the 'Lord of the Rings' books. Where the fuck are these people?

Henry looks like a big old overstuffed, greasy, monkey in those links above such as R49.

Henry had an easy gig. He barely uttered more than a few words, while the other characters he interacted with were speaking in paragraphs. His longest line was one sentence, and all of his speaking seems as if it was done in a studio.

Plus, the cutting from his few scenes to the Ciri and Yennefer's was odd. Seriously, he didn't have much to do, other than stumble into town and walk somewhere.

Easy peasy.

[quote]How does Henrietta keep getting lead roles when he has flop after flop? His projects are simply shit.

When you have a showrunner who's thirsty for you...

R54 and R55 Nope, axe and chopping board (plus some hanging) for Henry IIX's wifes, and I think a couple of them survived as well. That's why the guillotine was invented, to avoid the half miss you can have with an axe.

Only realised ep 7 that they're going back and forth in a fucking timeline... I though there was 2 messed up queen... give us a good old "Washington DC 6 dec 1994" à la X File?!

Can't find it now but there was a screenshot floating around which mentioned something about HC not enjoying fame anymore or some shit. Does anyone have it or know where it's come from?

R66 is she really??

R68 I find that hard to believe in the way he was soaking up the applause in Brazil.

"Easy peasy. " R65, he has a fight scene in almost every episode. He and his stunt double are doing a lot of work.

The script writers on the other hand...

Also, that his "hot" sex scene in ep. 5 was fully clothed, while his costar was bobbing her boobies all over the place, was silly.

[quote]"Easy peasy. " [R65], he has a fight scene in almost every episode. He and his stunt double are doing a lot of work.

That's just another gym workout for Henry. Easy Peasy.

Oh, Miss Peasy. Whales could swim in your wealth of ignorance about film sets.

R73 Why are you mad, sis?

R70 I know but I wanted to read the whole thing to see what the actual context was.

Lauren Hissrich and her team of writers are responsible for this atrocity. If the script had been half decent the show would have worked. Saying "split ends" in a medieval series is proof the writers are shit.

Lauren Shitrichh everyone.

R67 There was no "Henry IIX"

Henry VIII's second wife, Anne Boleyn, was sentenced to death. She requested the "Swordsman of Calais" as her executioner as his reputation for swift, immediate death was well known. She was beheaded by sword.

R77 Your point?

Can't you read R79?

Can't you write your point of view?

Can't you get it from the picture cunt?

I watched the first three episodes last night.

It looks cheap, the acting is atrocious, the script is awful, and Geralt’s ratty white wig looked it was randomly discovered from underneath Lady Gaga’s bed.

A total embarrassment for everyone who’s associated with it. The novels deserves way better than this.

The video equivalent of ...

The show is for straight guys only just like the game so... probably never going to watch or play.

[quote watched the first episode, was hopelessly lost, perhaps because I fell asleep for part of it, but I’m not so sure, it seems to have no discernible plot.

I've watched seven episodes and I still can't tell what's going on.

[quote]Lauren Hissrich and her team of writers are responsible for this atrocity. If the script had been half decent the show would have worked.

Young good looking male characters are killed in the first three episodes. Is this part of the book or is Lauren making a statement?

No overtly young good looking males characters were killed in the novels r86

Now that you mention it, only white people were killed in the first three episodes, apart from one Asian guy among a group of eight brigands.

^^^^^ THE EVERYTHING IN THE FUKING WORLD IS RACIAL TROLL

quote[R67 There was no "Henry IIX"] I know!

In France you won't find any information in our History books about Calais being english for over 2 century (I had to check I thought it was just 1). We just ignore that fact.

I have not finished watching ep 7 but I might just watch again "Nobody's watching", there is more humour and syfy than in the witcher, just as a cleanser.

Why is Lauren's ass being kissed by her fans? The show's script sucks ass and people are still complementing her.

Just watched the eight episodes. It's ok, I guess. Nice monsters (I liked the striga best), nice visuals, kind of lame story and story telling.

For this gay boy there were way too many young women having their nice and perky tits out and yet no hot guys showing their dicks or asses. A couple of shirtless scenes by Henry, a brief orgy scene without any guy on guy action (but girl on girl, of course) and an old guy bumbling around naked. On that front I am greatly disappointed.

The ominous voice delivery of Henry's character got lame by the third episode. Though I did like the Jennifer character (even though she's the one who shows her naked breasts the most).

I sure hope this extreme pandering to the nerds paid off for the show and Netflix, because I am surely not going crazy waiting for another season.

Just finished it. Like r91 said before me, it's just okay. The first two and a half episodes are a bit confusing and boring, but then it becomes bingeable. Even then, I was in no hurry to check out the next episode. Nice camerawork, battle scenes, and costume design, but some of it feels so stale - like the female to male nudity ratio. It's almost the 2020s; we truly can do better than that, people.

I didn't much care for the one-note grunting Witcher and the little girl's arc was my least favourite. Most of the time, I was just waiting for Yennefer to appear again as she's my favorite character, by far. The geography of the world wasn't established well enough and I still don't understand the Law of Surprise. Sounds like something out of D&D.

Wishes for next season: more Yennefer, more magic, sharper storytelling, fewer confusing time jumps unless said jumps involve temporal magic, and more male nudity.

Oh, and the shirtless guy who played the shapeshifter before he turned into the mage - I'm gonna need his name and his OnlyFans handle, thanks!

[quote]They mixed modern slang and some proper english "from back then", it's just weird, they keep throwing some fuck off every now and then.

I laughed so hard when Gerald used the phrase "Well, I haven't conducted a survey, but..." Yes, I'm sure polling is plentiful in that world, for sure. 😄

Yennefer was the worst character. The actress belongs on a CW teen show. Then again, this show felt like a teen series.

Surprised by the comments about the acting on this show. I'm usually the first one to scream about iffy acting, but I didn't get that here at all. I've seen some fantasy shit (Merlin, Shannara Chronicles, Shadowhunters...) so I know what [italic]bad[/italic] acting in this genre looks like. The actors did what had to be done with the script they got and they made the lines believable, so I applaud their professionalism.

I've been reading some reviews by the fans and omg... I'm sorry, but I thought the colour-blind casting was one of the best things about this show. The days of all-white fantasy shows should be behind us, like yesterday. No character on this show derives their powers solely from the melanin levels in their skin, so... why is it so important that they all be white? Especially with fucking mythical creatures and magic all over the place. It's a fantasy world, not the recreation of Middle Ages Europe. Suspend your disbelief some more, darlings.

Can you imagine the freakout if there were any gay stuff in this show as well? 🥴

R96 you clearly don't belong here fangirl. So please fuck off.

Are we going to get infested by Lauren's reddit army again?

Fangirl? I've never played the video game or read the source material. Watching this show this week was my first contact with The Witcher. Like I said in my mini review at r92, it was just okay and nothing special. Wouldn't miss it if it didn't get renewed.

You think everyone who isn't a raging racist is a fangirl? Furthermore, do you think this thread belongs to you or something?

The only real bright spot for me was the Yennefer storyline. I also enjoyed the warrior Queen chewing up the scenery; her performance was often hilarious.

Oh yeah, the actress playing the Queen was overacting most of the time. She was actually the one I wanted to mention as an exception when I said the acting was fine, but then forgot.

I remember her from playing a small role in a single scene on Game of Thrones. And you know what? Bitch milked it for all its worth even then! 😄

LOL at all the people who said they would watch the show just to see Henry naked only to end up watching a shitty show with no real storyline and no naked HC! What a flop!

You can bet after the second season this shit is over.

Did we even get to see his abs fully? I swear the camera never wandered there once. That part was so strange to me. I know he's an A-lister, but what's the point of all that constant exercise if he isn't going to show off the goods? I also saw something about him dehydrating for three days to get his physique ready for that bathtub scene and I'm like... what the fuck? We literally only saw his tits in that scene! What the hell do those tatas look like when he's fully hydrated, then? 🤔

And the only cock we saw was a strangely bulbous one I see in weird euro porn now and then. More normal cock next season, please.

It’s very messily told. The show runner should probably be replaced for Season Two.

SJW cunt at R96: The three Witcher video games had a white Geralt, and white Yennefer, and a white Ciri. Gratuitously changing their race to appease twats like you would majorly piss of the all the people who played the three video games.

That dyke show runner is a disaster. The acting is atrocious. The sets look like were cobbled together by the Berkeley Community College theater department volunteers. The script, dialogue, and pacing are cringeworthy or laughable.

Thanks for your “mini review”, retard. Now fuck off to Pinterest where you belong.

In all my years on DL, I truly have never seen someone react to someone's thoughts about a show quite like that.

I'm starting to think you're the real transplant here. Don't know where you came from or what made you so angry. I just know that I don't care, it's not a good look, and I will continue engaging with posters other than yourself, who seem orders of magnitude more pleasant than you.

R104 = TERF, but for video games

r106 Nailed it! 😆

This show was extremely boring. The story just doesn't seem interesting to me and the flashbacks were confusing as fuck. I was hoping that hot sex scenes involving Henry would make up for the shittiness but sadly there was NO henry nudity. I hate saying this stuff because I know that Henry worked very hard throughout the 9 months, and I was really hoping to love it. Anyways, it seems to be a hit so good for him I guess.

[quote]I know he's an A-lister

LMFAO!!😂😂😂

Oh, it just hit me that I raved about the gorgeous Royce Pierreson in one of the Judy threads previously. His girlfriend is one lucky bitch. Though he didn't look as hot in this show as he did in that movie, for some reason.

r109 Again, I'm neither a fan nor a girl. Or did you skip the part where I was talking about weird euro porn? Weird as in... gay fisting/scat porn. Which the fraus are famously known for watching. 🙄

And yes, Cavill played Superman a couple of times, so he's definitely an A-lister in the US, with the global name recognition of a B- or a C+ lister. I like to separate the two criteria.

r108 In addition to the flashbacks, I was also confused by the passage of time just in general. At one point, I was under the impression that Yennefer had barely started her job and then she said she'd wasted decades on it. What? Where? When?!

But even basic flashbacks are tough to pull off for an inexperienced showrunner. And Lindelof, she ain't.

They spent all those months in Budapest filming just to create 8 shitty episodes that weren’t even interesting???😳 What a waste of time and money.

This show is a fucking mess and so male gazy from a female showrunner. The girls are nude all the damn time but the camera barely appreciates Henry Cavill's body.

Comparing this to Game of Thrones is a laugh.

I'm still laughing at the ridiculousness of the law of surprise scene.

So the actor who played The Adonis (i.e. the shapeshifter at the start) is Ben Wiggins. He's so beautiful and has such a nice voice. No Insta, though. Does he ping to anyone or nah?

Is the female showrunner a lesbian?

The final battle was pretty epic, though the homosexual in me jumped out and so I couldn't get over the most glaring fuckup – Yennefer was wearing a macrame dress! Who the hell wears [italic]macrame[/italic] into battle? 🤦‍♂️

[quote]This show is a fucking mess and so male gazy from a female showrunner.

Do we know how much influence she had over direction? I can't picture someone like her telling someone like Alik Sakharov how to shoot Cavill's body. I've also noticed the two episodes directed by a female director weren't much better in that regard, so who the hell knows what went wrong.

Would the hardcore Witcher fans really freak if Cavill showed some ass now and then? As far as I know, the male fans mostly just ignored the male nudity on Game of Thrones. Some groaned, but no one was a bitch about it. Joey Batey is a cutey with a nice hairy chest, yet I don't think we saw him shirtless once either. So frustrating. Give the gays and the fraus something to talk about, Netflix!

R115 He’s ugly!

My brain hurts, looking at this.

^^ Actually, it all clicked suddenly and I got it now!

My heart is breaking. I was hoping Henry would become the next Christopher Reeves, and instead he's the next Kellan Lutz.

r122 That made me guffaw. You a funny bitch.

R116 and R118 the showrunner is trying to attrack the audience of GoT, so plenty of women's nudity. GoT had a slow start, until people started to show up for the nudity and drama (soap)

I managed to watch the first episode in chunks over the course of the weekend and withstand the clunky dialog (Destiny to the ∞ power!), but that kid with the daisies speaking about cliches as if he was on a modern CW teen show made me ragequit. In the absence of Henry Cavill dropping trou or at least fighting shirtless I'm going to need copious amounts of alcohol to sit through this turkey.

R124 She must be an idiot because the majority of the people who ever planned on tuning in were the HC fangurls and gay men - who are definitely not interested in seeing naked women.😴

Anyone who adored Yennefer's character is a frau fangirl. And yes you don't belong here.

This was the most heterosexual show I have ever watched.

It was tits! Tits! and more Tits!

and the biggest were mine

Henry's teats were the best in the Witcher

[quote]It’s very messily told. The show runner should probably be replaced for Season Two

Her and her writer's crew. Did they think they were making a teenage drama?

They couldn't have filmed a little lower 😔

R83 No, you posted posts all crammed together in a mad rage, you dried micro peen!

What bothered me a bit was that on at least two occasions the women were fully naked while the guys, they had sex with, still had their trousers on and apparently only had their dicks out for penetration. Like, WTF?

R133 What he said was right. the show is atrocious and the only people creaming for it are the Lauren Shitrich stans.

R127 You really ought to disabuse yourself of the notion that you're the arbiter of who "belongs" here and who doesn't. People have different opinions and no one is forcing you to engage them if they bother you to such an extent. Skipping over and ignoring are always an option to everyone on DL, not just in this particular thread.

r134 It's the reverse of that established practice on cable and network TV where the woman has a bra on during sex. Both versions are totally what happens in real life. 😄

R136 Where do you think you are cunt?

Back to WDW you go.

This show is fine. It is nothing like Game of Thrones. It’s completely different. It’s well made. Yes, it’s loopy fantasy, but it’s watchable, and if you’re into this sort of thing, it’s great.

Critics need to calm the fuck down. Lately the knives are out for absolutely everything and they’ve been pretty much totally wrong. Star Wars is fine. The Morning Show is fine. This show is fine. Not everything needs to satisfy everybody. That’s not how entertainment has worked for at least two decades now.

This show is not made for you. Get over it.

The actor who played that knight who gets his throat slashed while taking a shit in the dragon hunt episode is a cutie.

The fangurls have arrived

R130 Everything is fine to you because you've got shit taste.

R130's favorite song

**R139

What was up with that "magic is just an illusion" claim being spoken by several people in the finale? As clearly demonstrated, magic can be used as a tool for individual or mass murder. So, literally not just an illusion.

R144 It's Lauren's shitty writing. The show is nonsense and unintelligible at times.

OMG! What the fuck was that! That's what they spent millions of dollars and 10 months for? How is it made by netflix when it's clearly made for children. The dialogue was on par with a 90's teen romantic comedy movie. The critics had every right to skip watching episodes because of how bad it is. Another great role for Henry ruined by the writers.

And why did they make his love interest looks like his daughter?

The show was rushed and expected me to keep guessing what's going on. Netflix need to fire Lauren if they want the second season to be half decent than this kids show. Utter disappointment.

And all of Henry's workouts just for a few tit muscle shots?

No! This was terrible.

D-

Lauren Hissrich is only responsible for this because of her "husband". They should have hired a better writer.

Looks like nepotism was involved R147

[quote]The actor who played that knight who gets his throat slashed while taking a shit in the dragon hunt episode is a cutie.

Just what we want to see - someone taking a shit. How sexy.

R146 It’s terrible. Henry should be embarrassed to be part of this shit.

R148 Nepotism! In Hollywood!

[quote] She must be an idiot because the majority of the people who ever planned on tuning in were the HC fangurls and gay men - who are definitely not interested in seeing naked women.😴

That's completely false. The Witcher has a very large fan base from both the books and the video games. The show was primarily made for them and the Game of Thrones/medieval fantasy genre fans. Hell, HC fangirls couldn't even make Man from U.N.C.L.E. or Justice League moderate hits.

The tits in every other scene and over the top violence definitely was a nod - and an attempt to outdo Thrones.

I finished the series last night. As someone mentioned up thread the flashbacks and the timeline was confusing. Perhaps I should have paid attention to the title of the first episode "The End's Beginning". The seventh episode is just a filling in and continuation of the first episode. Probably saved them a lot of money by filming one episode as two.

This wasn't the first attempt to bring the books to the screen. There was Polish movie made in 2001 called "The Hexer" that received poor reviews.

[quote]A review in the Polish online film database Filmweb concluded that "it is not a good movie", noting that the plot was chaotic, mixing various adventures and scenes from the book series in a mostly random manner.

[quote]A review in the Polish game portal gry-online praised the actors, scenography, costumes, and music, but criticized the fragmentary, incoherent plot, which was apparently due to the producers being unable to agree on the main plot and structure, and trying to summarize all of the key plot elements of the planned TV series episodes into one 2-hour movie.

I'm wondering if instead of reading the books they remade the Polish film.

Also, it looks like Netflix as approved season 2.

[quote]Also, it looks like Netflix as approved season 2.

It was already approved for Season 2 months ago before it was even released, which happens with a lot of Netflix shows. Don’t count on a Season 3 after the dismal reviews.

lol, Netflix couldn’t care less about a gay audience for Witcher. It was made for gamer incels and fantasy fraus. You people are fucking delusional. As usual.

Has Netflix released the official budget for the first season? Or are there any estimations floating around?

After this, I'm already pre-cringing for the LOTR and the Wheel of Time shows on Amazon. Throwing millions of dollars at a fantasy show can only achieve so much if you can't manage to assemble a good writers' room that'll make the story compelling for the critics and the non-genre audiences as well.

R155 But aren't the incels the ones complaining about the show you fucking cunt?

R157 They'll learn from the witcher. And fake SJWs like Lauren are already taken so that's a plus.

meant R156

Calm down you fucking nutbags.

Diversity is a non-issue for the general audience. You can see from the casual reviewers in this thread who aren't familiar with the source material that this show just isn't very compelling to watch, but that has nothing to do with the fact that some of the actors aren't white.

R160 I thought you said the reviews were scathing bitch.

The showrunner would agree with r155. The showrunner was mouthing off on twitter that she doesn't care what the critics think, just what Witcher fanboys think

So I've been perusing the official subreddit for the show and... is Triss a big character in the books? She's the one who conjured up those shrooms in the finale, right? I don't recall her from any other episode.

Also, Vilgefortz, played by this cutie, is supposed to be one of the most powerful sorcerers on the continent? I also don't recall him from any episode other than the finale.

R163 that shows you how bratty she is just like a child . which explains why the script was horrible.

R164 That's because they tried to make the story so twisted that a lot of important characters were cut out or had less screen time. They Reduced Geralt's role ffs. Then they have the audacity to say they don't care about the bad reviews.

[quote] Then they have the audacity to say they don't care about the bad reviews.

r166 = Alex Forrest

[quote]lol, Netflix couldn’t care less about a gay audience for Witcher. It was made for gamer incels and fantasy fraus. You people are fucking delusional. As usual.

You dumb sack of shit - you just said yourself that fraus were one of the targeted audiences, so even ignoring the gays, the fraus are still getting no eye candy. The fraus didn’t watch to see naked women - they tuned in solely to see Henry naked and didn’t get shit.

[quote]The showrunner was mouthing off on twitter that she doesn't care what the critics think

LOL Yet she took the time to respond about the critics.

Genuine fans of the books/games nor Polish fans especially, which The Witcher actually means something to, are liking how the show turned out either.

Just one big pile of shite at this point.

Hope that makes sense.

Hopefully there's a whole turnaround of writers for the second series otherwise you're looking at more of this.

R179 wut?

From what I can see the Witcher fanboy crowd does like it r170, it is the critics and general audience that thinks it is pretty dumb.

Yup, judging by their two subreddits, the fans seem to be down with it, minor quibbles notwithstanding. I sorted the posts for the last week by Controversial (i.e. most downvoted - which gives you an impression of what sorts of posts the sub visitors don't like) and it was just posts bitching about how bad the show is and also posts asking why Cavill wasn't naked more.

[quote] Genuine fans of the books/games nor Polish fans especially, which The Witcher actually means something to, are liking how the show turned out either.

The entire thing is a fucking mess. Diehard fans seems to like the show, but are complaining about forced diversity and Triss' hair color. Casual audiences seem to have issues about the convoluted plot, disjointed narrative, and slow pacing. Females and gays are complaining about Henry's lack of chemistry with his female co stars and his odd fully clothed sex scenes.

Personally, I struggled to make it through the 3rd episode. It's just so damn boring. It reminds me of a cross between the Shannara Chronicles and the lousy, filler episodes of Xena.

I thought Yennefer portalling through the various environments to escape the assassin was easily the best thing this show did, and was expecting more of that going forward. But little else came close to it, even the finale.

But Xena, Hercules, The Legend of the Seeker etc. were actually fun shows that didn't take themselves too seriously.

They were pretty stupid shows but they were also entertaining and were pretty clear in their storytelling.

R140 since you're so good to find actors' names, could you find the name of the surgeon/stylist who transformed Yenefer? I know he is british, I remember seing him in a comedy/sitcom a long time ago, but I'm unable to find him on IMDB, so many people in that cast!

If somebody who actually read the books could tell us if the timeline in the book is like in the tv show? Did the author give the readers info on when and where they are?

If somebody did edit the show in a chronological order, the first 2 episods would be only about Yenefer, and Ciri would show up only in the last 2, the witcher wouldn't be in a few episods, like at all.

I might have watched something on the internet at the same time, WTF is the suprise child? Ciri? Why is Gerald concerned by it? The father is the hedgehog guy right?

The only character I enjoyed is Jaskier, I wouldn't mind watching him in the nude, preferably for the joke, I don't need to see him fuck, just an ass shot, I'll be fine.

After that big battle, the huggy ending and her, "Who's Yennifer?" was such a clunker.

Henry would be better off doing supporting roles that are hits (Mission Impossible) instead of taking lead roles in all of these recent flops (Witcher, Night Hunter, Sand Castle, etc). He simply does not have what it takes to be a lead.

[quote] [R140] since you're so good to find actors' names, could you find the name of the surgeon/stylist who transformed Yenefer? I know he is british, I remember seing him in a comedy/sitcom a long time ago, but I'm unable to find him on IMDB, so many people in that cast!

Not r140, but here he is.

[quote]“What’s great about season two, I can tell you, is that, in what we’ve written, the story becomes much more focused. There’s a stronger drive in the story, because all of the relationships that we’ve been setting up in season one, actually start to come into fruition in season two,” Hissrich tells GamesRadar+

[quote]Hissrich also hints at The Witcher season 2 moving away from the approach which led to the main characters of Geralt, Ciri, and Yennefer being separated for much of the series so far: “Characters start meeting and interacting more. That goes well sometimes. It doesn’t go well sometimes. But it’s kind of like, all of those building blocks that we set up for the world, finally start to come together into something a little more concrete.”

[quote]And beyond that? Hissrich already revealed to sister publication SFX that she has plans for seven seasons – and re-affirmed that mindset, explaining, “There are definitely things that we know we want to do. In our brains, as writers, we say, ‘Oh, that could happen at the end of season three’ or ‘That will happen in season seven.’ The truth is, we have a tonne of source material. We could write the show for a very, very long time.”

I wouldn't be putting downpayments on any houses based on that 7-year plan.

"story becomes much more focused" Erm... that should have been #1 on the list from the very beginning. Hence one of the main criticisms of this series being that timelines and jumps throughout are confusing. Are they really this thick?

R182 thanks!

R185 Looks like it.

It was a lot of gibberish that lead to a lot of confusion for me.

It was a lot of gibberish that lead to a lot of confusion for me.

[quote]I might have watched something on the internet at the same time, WTF is the surprise child? Ciri? Why is Gerald concerned by it? The father is the hedgehog guy right?

r179 I found this on the Witcher Wiki:

[quote]The Law of Surprise is a custom as old as humanity itself. The Law dictates that a man saved by another is expected to offer to his savior a boon whose nature is unknown to one or both parties. In most cases, the boon takes the form of the saved man's firstborn child, conceived or born without the father's knowledge. Ciri came to be Geralt's ward after he invoked the Law of Surprise on Duny and Pavetta. Geralt demanded that which Duny already had, but did not know of. This, Geralt revealed, was Duny's child, carried, unknown to Duny but known to Geralt, by Pavetta.

So I guess a surprise child is just referring to a child "acquired" through the Law of Surprise. I still find the whole conceit silly. The hedgehog guy is a separate, unconnected arc, and was there just to demonstrate how the Law of Surprise works.

I'll be surprised if this gets more than 3 seasons.

The Law of Surprise is obviously inspired by the contract you supposedly enter with Satan where Satan does you a big favor and demands your soul, or your first child, in return. And it's up to Satan when he comes and collect.

I mean, they could've had the same story plot with Geralt just being the girl's godfather thanks to being on her parents' side at the right time when they needed him. But it needed to be something more grand and epic. Witcher-like.

R192 The law of surprise felt very Disney like

Yes, I've noticed Witcher fans really like this notion of dEsTiNy. Or maybe that's just fantasy fans in general.

r193, to me the episode about Ciri's parents at court felt very much like a Shakespearian farce with twists and backstories unfolding right on stage.

Ciri's parent were at court? Wait, so the hedgehog guy WAS Ciri's dad? But when did they have time to make that baby? Didn't the princess die in that same scene, right after she vomited after they had both levitated? Or were they having magical sex while up in the air and she vomited because she was pregnant? My brain hurts.

I can't take the Law of Surprise seriously because it even sounds silly for an adult person to say it out loud. Just say a Debt of Life or something. There has got to be a more poetic phrase for this out there. And don't even get me started on "surprise child."

[quote] My brain hurts.

Maybe posting on Datalounge, and being online in general, isn't such a good idea at the moment then?

r198 Whut?

[quote] And don't even get me started on "surprise child."

Hey! Don't you go there!

[quote] My brain hurts.

[quote][R198] Whut?

Exactly. I rest my case.

Okay, move right along, dear. 🙄

Who's the cunt at R198

R201 Just likes to type words. She's got few brain cells so try your best to ignore her.

Anyhoo...

Did anyone else clock that little wink to the homosexual audience in the finale? It happened on the eve of the big battle, when a guy poured another guy a drink and they looked at each other super warmly and kinda half-embraced. They for sure fucked that night. And that's about all we're going to get in seven season of this show, I think.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

r206 Are the writers at DM drunk right now? They literally made an article about IMDb ratings, by pretty much copying an identical Forbes article about The Witcher's IMDb ratings. When I clicked on the Forbes link in the article, it took me to a Forbes piece titled "6 ways smart cities are improving everyday life."

Is Niomi Harris an intern or something? 🥴

awareness of correct spelling punctuation and grammar are not required by the Mirror group.

Niomi must have been covering for someone who took the day off because she usually covers inane celeb "news." No wonder that article is a dumpster fire.

[quote] The DM has an article which notes it's one of the "highest rating" Netflix show

Give the nerds and incels some bouncing titties and renaissance fair magic and they are your biggest fans. Who knew?

R206 look at the comments and you'll see why it's the HiGheST RaTinG

R211 The comments are all over the place. My estimation is 2/3 like it with 1/3 hating it.

You're really bad at math aren't you R212

You're really bad at reading comprehension, aren't you R13

I don't know the books or the game. I made it through the whole series. It was merely ok. The story loops back multiple times. It as potential. I agree that they need to completely replace the writers. They are not hitting the demographic on this one as the story is much much more about women than the Witcher.

You've got half a brain missing, don't you R214?

[Quote] They are not hitting the demographic on this one as the story is much much more about women than the Witcher.

That wasn't a secret. They mentioned it multiple times during promotion.

Thanks, R217 I missed the promos.

Of course they're focussing on the women - the Witcher himself is a simplistic nothing of a character, held together by grunts and a bad wig. A writer's nightmare.

Why don’t they have Henry’s character have a gay sex scene to make this stupid show interesting? I bet a Henry would enjoy that.

R220 uh huh. That would totally fix all of the show's problems 🙄

R221 Yes, it would. You can’t say it wouldn’t get people talking!

It was fine. I liked the Yennefer origin episode. But yes, they do throw you in the deep end with the story and expect you to sink or swim. Not smart.

Will Henry get a dildo for Christmas?

I like to say “Witcher” with a comically posh British accent.

WitchAH. WitchAH WitchAH WitchAH.

[quote]Of course they're focussing on the women - the Witcher himself is a simplistic nothing of a character, held together by grunts and a bad wig. A writer's nightmare.

ROTFL!

R225 that's how everyone should pronounce it lol

R219 only to atrocious self entitled writers

I enjoy the Liza pronunciation, personally - The Wisher.

Worcestershire

I had a dream last night that Henry was breakdancing. It was pretty hilarious!

Could you, would you, with a hedgehog?

Depends how deep the curse runs, if you catch my drift.

Hedgehog? No.

Now maybe if he was part horse...

Okay Anne B. R234

So much titties and barfing.

I want some homosexual content next season.

And I only say that because this is about the only place online where it's safe to say so. 😅

[quote]I want some homosexual content next season.

Make sure to say MALE homosexual content, otherwise it’ll just be faux-lez billshit.

Yes even the orgy scene had two girls hooking up in the background but not two men. Of course.

I was scanning for two guys doing it in that scene, to no avail. That one guy who briefly touched Cavill was the closest we got. And the guys mostly all had briefs on, which was bizarre.

Henry is such a pussy. He could have insisted there be a gay male scene but nope. His career deserves to fall apart for being so spineless.

Well, shooting this series pretty much guarantees that he'll be locked out of doing films. So, the prize is an incomprehensible Netflix series that lose steam sooner rather than later.

Really?? I doubt you're the only one who feels that way. And apparently Ciri is a lesbian. Couldn't hurt to add a gay character or 2 next season.

That was for R237 👆

Henry is always covering up his lower abs, which makes me think he has a bit of a gut now.

If he needs to dehydrate himself for three days straight in order for his tits to look acceptable in that bathtub scene, he must have a water retention problem, and so lord knows what his gut looks like when he's not dehydrated. And the area below his belly was always strategically covered, I think.

I don't know why, but his preparations and the filming around his muscles all remind me of this Marlene Dietrich spoof, with the built-in winches and the vaseline on the camera that make her appear the way people remember her.

R245 well he's mentioned in interviews how he sometimes thinks he's a fat fuck. Which is absolutely insane. Even if he does have a bit of a gut, who cares. Henry's not Homer Simpson.

There's a Graham Norton clip where he reveals his nickname from childhood was "fat Cavill."

It seems like people who were overweight as children tend to see themselves that way their entire lives.

Did he or does he have any other nicknames?

Got through almost four episodes. Unbelievably tedious, although I enjoy looking at Mr Cavill. I’d like to hang the bard, and the actress who plays the queen (who is dead, then alive because of a confusing time jump) drags down every scene she appears in with her scenery-chewing.

r250 It gets better around that mark. Watch it until the end, just so you'll laugh with the rest of us. 😅

Stupid no-mouth-moving dragon!

surprise mthfckr

Don't they get those gamers will eventually let go of this terrible show? No one will be watching by then.

Only in the USA can a fucked up show be renewed for other seasons while great ones get cancelled.

Popularity and quality have nothing to do with each other.

r253 That click-baity site is infamous for getting it wrong with their "scoops", so better wait for a confirmation form someone else. Besides, that decision is ages away still.

Unfortunately R256

[bold]The Witcher defies critics to fill Games of Thrones hole for TV viewers[/bold]

[quote]Despite sniffy reviews, Netflix’s drama is currently its most successful original show – heralding a slew of new fantasy shows

^^

[quote]Beyond that, Netflix has purchased the rights and commissioned The Chronicles of Narnia as well as Cursed, a 10-part retelling of the legend of King Arthur through the perspective of the Lady of the Lake based on a forthcoming fantasy novel by Tom Wheeler.

I'm so ready for that Lady of the Lake thing; always been fascinated by her character. Although, "a forthcoming novel"? So they commissioned the series before the book even came out? 🤨 Also, I'd prefer if the author were a woman and she offered a more feminist perspective. Lord knows what beast Wheeler is going to turn her into...

Do you think this song has viral hit potential? I cringed through it, personally.

R259 Lauren sure has her connections in the Guardian.

R261 Only for people with a fucked up taste in music.

Deal with the fact it’s a hit, you tired old kaweens.

R264 Hi Lauren! What's a cunt like you doing here?

[quote] I cringed through it, personally.

You aren't the only one, my friend and I busted out laughing at that song. "A friend of hUMaNIty!!!!111""

R264 No wait you're a WDW frau who thinks everything Ms cavill makes is a masterpiece. This show is atrocious and everyone will forget about it come season 2.

Now go worship his dull as fuck self in the shrine you made specifically for him.

[quote]"A friend of hUMaNIty!!!!111"

Eek, that part is the worst. 😬

In a world where Justin Beiber and Billie Eilish can become successful singers, I am no longer surprised by the quality of music people decide to like.

How nice, his good friend Wolfgang from Mission impossible helped for some fight stunts...

There really is something going on right now where critics and audiences seem so divergent on so many movies and tv shows.

It used to be that there would be a few "critical favorites" that never quite get traction, so get a tepid renewal, then cancellation.

It makes you wonder who paid or pissed off whom.

The only way in hell I'd rewatch this is if they made a supercut of Yennefer's parts only. 💅

I wish her Hogwarts arc were expanded, though. She basically graduated within a single cut.

Truer words have never been spoken R270

R272 Now, the voice overly crazy fans is more heard on social media than actual critics. They'll infest any rating system by just sitting on their ass and scoring shows with a perfect score and tweet endlessly with alias accounts and that's what the showrunner and Netflix are counting for to justify the second series.

It's a flop.

Fanhags are really putting stock into this IMDB rating shit aren't they?! They have no clue how things work.

Third season's been greenlit?

No, pure speculation.

Hasn't Amazon a while back started weighing those IMDb scores, so as to offset all the 10s and the 1s by the fans and the haters alike? And they're still useless.

They haven't done anything it seems. I'm bewildered by the hag support and fanboys alike.

LOL R269. I bet the actor already has.

Streaming channels have very different economics and different criteria for how many seasons and what gets renewed. In the past, networks viewed six seasons as the minimum necessary for a show to be successful due to how syndication worked. It put you over the 100 show mark - daily reruns during the week / 20 episodes per month.

Amazon and Netflix probably have similar criteria:

- "Netflix employs a “cost-plus” model, offering to pay upfront a show’s production costs plus a premium of 30%+ of the costs. Even after Netflix subtracts a distribution fee, outside studios are at break-even or in a positive territory from Day 1, versus having to deficit-finance series for the first few seasons on most traditional networks."

- "Netflix’s deals include bump/bonuses after each season that are getting progressively bigger. While the payments are relatively modest after Season 1 and a little bigger after Season 2...they escalate after Season 3, especially for series owned by Netflix — sometimes from hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars — as the studio starts to pay off the shows’ back-end."

- "Netflix is unabashedly data-driven, with many of its decisions based on algorithms. That’s how the network reportedly switched from the initial (and traditional) 13-episode seasons to seasons of 10 episodes or less. Word is that those shorter seasons are considered optimal for consumption, and any additional episodes beyond 10 a season do not add value, so they are an unnecessary expense for the network."

- "The same goes for the number of seasons. If a show has not broken out in a big way during its first couple of seasons, there has been chatter that Netflix does not see significant growth potential beyond Season 3 (and sometimes beyond Season 2) as viewers tend to move on to the next hot new show in an overcrowded TV universe."

They need to have enough seasons (usually 3) that viewers will feel like the show was worth watching. It doesn't add anything or drive more subscriptions beyond that unless it's a hit. conversely, they need to recoup some of the upfront money they spend over more seasons - there are startup costs for new productions that aren't incurred in later seasons, so the first season will always be the most expensive.

I watched a couple more episodes yesterday in a cold medicine-induced fugue state, and the third one (with the Strega) seemed almost watchable. Maybe it does get better as it goes along?

The show has too much going on and too many characters without any real explanation until the very end. I don't have time for that, but I did watch all 8 episodes.

Gets more watchable after episode 5. The writing is terrible. Messily put together. Hopefully they get their act together for season 2.

"Watchable" doesn't mean "must see TV" imo.

[Quote] I don't have time for that, but I did watch all 8 episodes.

Lol

R284

You bet he's proud with all the fucks and grunting he did as he thought he was acting.

It is very fantasy, filled with the tropes and cliches of the genre, and it’s borderline syfy channel at times, but the actors and some of the production values keep it together. I found it weirdly charming, and I really disliked GoT - though I hate watched all of it. I actually like Cavill in this. Since it’s a big hit for Netflix, they’re going to pour money into the next season, and I’ll be interested to see what they do.

The third episode (farthest I’ve watched so far) is very good. The first two were very messy although the high production values made them watchable.

They made the correct choice to be self-aware which is probably the only way swords and sorcery can go immediately post-GOT. And the colorblind casting is a very welcome choice.

They spent all pf their budget on the 8th episode.

“Toss a Coin to Your Witcher” is supposed to make you cringe; much like Baby Yoda, it’s the show’s acknowledgement that the only way to move forward in an exhausted genre is through self-parody.

I just finished watching the series. I wished the critics and people in general just watched it the damn show to completion. It’s actually pretty good. The writing could be better but I liked what they did with the different timelines/storylines. It’s also a clever ploy to get people to rewatch the season. The actress that played Yennefer is outstanding and did a great job with the character, what a great arc. I think the casting was great. It’s great to see a fantasy show with some diversity.

R294 the yennifer actress was annoying. Arrogant and unlikable. No chemistry with gerault at all. The writing was shit. It had the potential to be a 10/10 show. Just felt so amateurish

If you try to compare the show to GOT, which many seem to be doing for some reason, it's terrible. But if you take it on its own, it's not as bad as this thread makes it out to be.

IMO the best Cavill episode was the first one where he helps the village and yet the villagers turn against him in the end. That gave him something to do acting wise, like showing the hurt of betrayal. In pretty much every other episode he's just a grunting cynic. Except on the one with the Dragon hunt where he pines for Yennifer.

R294's all time favorite movie is Hisghchool Musical 2

R296 Except it is terrible as every viewer with a working brain has noticed

People who are confused don’t seem to understand there are different timelines between the main character’s stories.

R299 No. It currently has a 59% rating on Rotten Tomatoes (audience percentage sits at 93% approval on RT). Reading this thread you would swear it's in single digits, but atlas, it's 1% off of being fresh. The reviews have been classified as mixed to average. Is it great? No, but this show is not being universally panned as the worst show ever made despite what this echo chamber claims.

The fangirls have arrived

I watch the first episode and I really liked it. My issue with the series so far is that filming seems to be done in the dark. I’m getting tired of films where you can’t see what’s going on clearly. There’s a point when art no longer is helpful. Some of these shows are making me go blind.

R293 that was cute 😃

Total and utter shite.

WTF is it with fantasy and magic?

Anya's like a Sephardic variation of Lea Michelle.

**Saphic

OMG I was NOT expecting to encounter the story of the Grovelhog again decades after I saw it on Jim Henson’s Storyteller

R307 hope she's not an asshole like Lea is.

[quote] Anya's like a Sephardic variation of Lea Michelle.

Lea is pretty Ashkenazi, I'll admit!

[quote] Anya's like a Sephardic variation of Lea Michelle.

Lea is pretty Ashkenazi, I'll admit!

Yennefer's arc was my favourite as well and I'm kinda mellowing on the show as a whole the further away I am from it.

The show had no center. It was like a bunch of stuff happening and people walking in and out of the action.

Shitty show. Won’t be watching again.

R313 that's because you're losing brain cells the further you watch.

After bingeing it, the show has some potential. Really the first season seems like a pilot, which is not a great way to launch a show, but the monster-of-the-week format was at least something a bit different. Yennefer and Geralt have no chemistry. Needs more of the Black Knight, that character was interesting but underused. His arc in the books is akin to a certain Thrones character, so again potential is there.

It could have been a 10/10 show. What a shame

Polish adaptation from 2002. 🤭

R319 polish gerault is kinda hot

He is. And the bard and some of the extras are cute, too.

It is currently the most watched, discussed, and searched TV show on the planet.

Suck it, haters.

[quote]The Witcher would currently have a Fresh critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes if there were not TWO separate rotten reviews from the dual writers of the terrible Entertainment Weekly Review.

Just saw this on Reddit and man, Darren Franich and Kristen Baldwin's entry into the new decade could not have been shittier. They have needlessly complicated their lives for years to come. I wouldn't mind if they were just bitchy, but they were unprofessional by skipping the episodes like that and slapping an F onto the show. Cuntiness is perfectly fine when done right.

According to whom R323? Crazy cunts and fat gamers?

R323 When the show is bad it deserves to have its episodes skipped

Sorry, but that's unprofessional when you are literally getting paid to sit on your ass, watch a show, and then review it. Good luck getting a job reviewing stuff at another outlet with that attitude.

I didn’t get the changes in time back and forth in Cintra and I didn’t understand the ethos in the Black Knight and the White Feather but it’s kept my interest. I guess every hero has to adopt that gravelly, uninflected voice but I’m okay with that. Cavil is still Hotta MacHottiness!

R362 ok boomer

Oop! R236**

You fucked up your insult, Gen Xer.

Is the consensus here that the first episode sucked, but they get better after that? That's my take right now, on e5. The one with the tower and yennifer the hunchback is so far the best one.

I thought the first two and a half episodes sucked. I perked up in the second half of the third episode.

Even that brief shot of the gorgeous Royce Pierreson shirtless sucked. They could've milked that so much with some better angles and lighting. 😩

Who would have thought Pierreson would out hot Henry Cavill.

Third episode was where it started gelling for me too, though nothing has managed to make Princess Screechy's storyline compelling to me so far.

I finished the series and it sucked through out. Wait till you see the atrocity in episode 6.

Finished it. It had so much potential to be an amazing show. It's not there yet. These 10/10 reviews are deluded

Lol, no R324, based on analytics, dear. It’s a huge success by any metric. Sorryyyyyyy!!! Byeeee!!!

Why don't people (fanhags) bother to read things properly and educate themselves. Not every country has Disney+ yet so that article is BS, it's based on the US market not worldwide.

[quote] Netflix's "The Witcher" is the most in-demand TV show in the world, according to the latest figures from the data company Parrot Analytics.

What was that again R339? You keep trying it. It’s embarrassing.

Pretty sure Parrot Analytics normalised the ratings for the number of subscribers to the two platforms. So if they say it's more in-demand globally than The Mandalorian, than that's where we are.

*then

Keep trying what? One comment was made. Get over it.

Dumbass at R338 Why don't you share with the group how they got these numbers you fat cunt?

It's all about the number of clicks and not if they watched the entire thing. So go back to wdw with your fake victory you sad cow.

R340 Why don't you let your pussy flaps fly you back to cuntland where you can rave to your little bubble about the terrible show?

Keep trying but your fat fingered posts won't prove anything but the show's atrocity that attracts insects like you.

LMAO at people still clutching their pearls to prove this is a good series. Keep holding on to those numbers because by the time season 2 appears, in fact as of now, people have already forgotten about it.

Club remix

Everyone mumbles and needs elocution lessons.

I don't understand why they made the choice to have people mumble their lines in addition to having an odd accent. While it might be decipherable if you're from the UK, most Americans would have difficulty. It's as if a Welsh person had a bastard child with a Scot and the kid was raised by the muppets swedish chef.

R348 thank God for subtitles.

The deranged Witcher hater is so... sad. Take your meds, boomer.

I enjoyed it, though interesting that Garalt was the weak link, and was sidelined for much of the finale.

Yeah, his mom delirium in the finale was pissng me off. Just go back to the damn battle already.

I started watching the first episode, and it so awful I couldn't finish it. In the first twenty minutes there's much discussion of how the main character is desperately in need of new clothes, and yet his clothes are obviously brand now without a scuff mark or mudspatter on them.

It's really just a clear rip-off of the Robert e. hopwazrd heroes like con an./

The only reason I could imagine it being worth seeing would be if Henry Cavill constantly took his (immaculate!) shirt off, but it looks like this is not the case.

[quote]I started watching the first episode, and it so awful I couldn't finish it. In the first twenty minutes there's much discussion of how the main character is desperately in need of new clothes, and yet his clothes are obviously brand now without a scuff mark or mudspatter on them.

Yeah, when I heard that, I was like WTF -- his clothes are brand new compared to the dusty rags that woman was wearing. In fact, the clothes are a bit too immaculate and modern for this world, imo.

R350 Okay Boomer

R353 It was written by a bunch of millenial women so of course the first few lines would be about changing his clothes when he didn't need to.

Not so fast 5 of those writers are men.

I actually made it all the way through this shitshow.

I can’t say I’ll be back for Season 2 and I doubt most viewers will.

The Witcher is an incredibly pedestrian, B-movie romance novel.

It’s not politically true and intriguing like the Game of Thrones it steals designs from (“The Doppler” = The Night King).

Its action is generic, run-of-the-mill peblum. And its sex isn’t very sexy or erotic.

It’s all-around anti-taining.

Considering that Cavill is a homophobe, I think I’m done with this shitshow and him.

There are plenty of gigantic tit muscles out there that love gays.

R358 he has gay friends

Don't be so stupid, r359.

I've started watching, I'm not sure I like it. I think it's good to have women fighting men, but have them look physically capable of it, for fucks sake.

Where are all these black people coming from? They're in the background, not doing much. It's worse than having no black people at all; having them in the background, on the periphery of more important white characters.

[quote]In the first twenty minutes there's much discussion of how the main character is desperately in need of new clothes, and yet his clothes are obviously brand now without a scuff mark or mudspatter on them.

Totally. Most of the costumes looked that way. And the sets didn't look lived in either - those CG castles had sleek, polished walls, like they were built just last year using modern materials.

[quote]I think it's good to have women fighting men, but have them look physically capable of it, for fucks sake.

I agree - it was outrageous the way the Queen was presented as this famous warrior, when she looked fairly dainty. No way in hell. Brienne on GoT was one of two women on that show who fought with a sword, and she was physically imposing. Arya was small but had a special weapon and a fighting style that were both chosen for her stature - but even she never fought in battles in the open field.

[quote]Where are all these black people coming from? They're in the background, not doing much. It's worse than having no black people at all; having them in the background, on the periphery of more important white characters.

I mean, one of them is Yennefer's lover. And even that was a huge achievement after that mother of freakouts and the threat of a boycott the fans pulled back when the showrunner revealed she might cast black people and POC as main characters. Blame it on the fandom who largely believes this show should look like medieval Poland. I disagree that it's worse than not having any black people at all - incrementalism is better than nothing. Same as with gay characters.

[quote][R358] he has gay friends

It's 2020 and still people use the 'gay friends/black friends' trope... FOH!

Ah yes, so now it becomes clear why you old boomer kaweens don’t like this show, because you’re racists and misogynists. Old DL sure doesn’t disappoint in this regard.

Oh child! It's the lack of a comprehensible plot, unintelligible dialog, erratic dramatic focus, and lack of nudity that's a disappointment.

R358 Don't be a dipshit. He's already gay.

R363 Shutup blackie.

LOL R358 must be the only one who doesn't know.

Even the Stryga knows!

LoL

🎶🎵🎵🎶 TOSS A BARD IN THE WOODCHIPPER! 🎵🎵🎶

[quote] Considering that Cavill is a homophobe,

Based solely on the way he once said "For my fans" with a sibilant "s"?

Get back to the campus safe space to play with your Play-Doh. You're too easily triggered to be in the real world.

If they would just have him do most of his scenes shirtless it would be a must-watch.

I'm watching this but got confused. i'm on episode 4 but didn't the queen die already? why is she having a party?

I didn't read the books.

r372 Confusing time jump. Most people complained about it.

R372

Does Henry kill Daenerys in Season 2?

I’m a white gay male, you fucking moron. So shut your fucking trap you stupid fucking Nazi.

R376 Your attempt at sounding gay is ridiculous.

Fuck off CUNT!

You’re a total fucking moron R377. You’re BLOCKED CUNT. BYEEEEEE

PMS much hoe R378? Hahaha!

Watch the entire season, and you will understand the time line.

It's funny to see so many haters here triggered because a show they dislike is a huge success. It's not GoT for sure, but enjoyed it anyway, I don't give a fuck about critic's reviews saying me I'm having fun wrong.

The show is an undeniable hit.

It’s a huge hit, has an additional musical hit, has restarted interest in the game Witcher 3 which has had a huge uptick in sales and downloads, and is part of the current cultural conversation. Sorry bitter queens.

[quote]It's funny to see so many haters here triggered because a show they dislike is a huge success.

[quote]Sorry bitter queens.

It's just two posters in this thread who HATED it and are melting down and insulting others left and right. So we shouldn't generalise too much.

and of course the DL has descended into a petty screech fest filled with invective- on almost every thread these days.

LMAO at the fraus STILL trying to grab any strands to prove that this show was a hit! AGAIN, For the millionth time since your sad little brains are still developing , those articles are only looking at the number of views for a 2 MINUTE period only. IT's a FLOP and will be lucky to get another greenlit season besides the second one.

R381! what a dumb ass frau that can't see the article was written by a fellow deluded gamer fanboy. Hahahah!

Keep bleeding bitches. You'll be PMSing this entire year.

R385 = obsessive Cavillfrau who has posted hundreds of responses on Henry threads and doesn’t post on ANY other subject so she bought her membership just to obsess over Henry

R387 Is the cunt who's pissed off at every Cavill thread because no one is willing to pay to post in her sad and empty DUWWEL threads.

BOOHOO!

Anyone with a functioning brain can see this show is tragic.

R387 Wait. Aren't you the one who keeps posting in every Cavill thread? Even better YOU'RE the OP of some of them. Got a nerve on you Haha!

BUT I post on all different subjects on DL and start a dozen threads every day. YOU only come here to post about one thing. You have NO OTHER INTERESTS.

(Trump voice) Sad!

Who knew the Durrel threads were made by a Trumpeteer piece of shit?

And why are you even bothered by what and where I post cunt?

Go take your PMS meds. This thread is beginning to smell fishy.

The person insisting the show is a flop must be trolling. Anyone can search "The Witcher" news and see the truth.

R393 You insisting the show is a hit must be trolling. Anyone can search "The Witcher" news and see the truth all they talk about is "popularity" aka the quantity of incel gamers and Henry Cavill frau stans like your sad self flooding comment sections about how amazing the show is when the quality is best fit for a lowbudget TV show. Even IGN one of the Gamers shrines gave it an average 6 out of 10.

OMG the Cavill obsessed troll posts makes many postings referencing women and periods. I think he may be an unhappy Trans.

R393 Since your body is busy developing your uterus instead of your brain, here's a recap , those articles are only looking at the number of views for a 2 MINUTE period only. That's how Netflix calculated the "popularity" numbers.

If you put the Incel Cavill troll on mute, half the thread disappears.

Also, he is a racist, he called someone “blackie” and used the word “chink.”

Are you triggered frau R395 ?

R397 Awww!! Sad frau! What'll happen to you when M closes this thread? Will you keep asking people to pay up?

Also I think the Incel is using two accounts from two different devices because he posts something and it gets WWed immediately even if it’s not funny.

Sad sad COW! R400 Go back to stalking on WDW

R400 Haaahahaaaa! You're getting paranoid because my comments are getting likes instead of yours.

Off to the mental ward your go!

LOL! The Incel is so obsessed! I keep seeing responses added but they’re invisible because I blocked him.

Poor Incel. I bet it will end up becoming MTF since it so so obsessed with vaginas.

Aww R403 Won't see what I wrote about her fat ass. Boo hoo!

When will M close this thread so OP will officially go into a meltdown?

R383 Almost everyone besides you and the other Cavill fangirl disliked this show? What are you even talking about? Even OP is disappointed.

r406 has severe reading comprehension issues. Where did I say I disliked the show? Gurl, bye.

Damn, this thread is a hot mess. See you all when the second season drops out.

R407 Idiot? Did you even read my comment?

[quote]See you all when the second season drops out.

You mean second and FINAL season.

R409 if anyone still remembers this shit.

Seriously r408. I checked back in on this thread and it is a shitshow now. Pity we can't keep the crazies away.

R412 Is this your first time on DL?

Amongst all the silly arguing I'll be here like...

I can't load the last 32 answers, so I will post not knowing if my argument has already be done.

People are buying the Witcher book to try to make sense of the FUCKING timeline! Not something to be proud when you are the showrunner...

[quote]Just saw this on Reddit and man, Darren Franich and Kristen Baldwin's entry into the new decade could not have been shittier. They have needlessly complicated their lives for years to come. I wouldn't mind if they were just bitchy, but they were unprofessional by skipping the episodes like that and slapping an F onto the show. Cuntiness is perfectly fine when done right.

Kristen Davis also have an F to Almost Family because she said she had a daughter through in vitro fertilization and she couldn’t watch them make a gross mockery of it on this show. She got eviscerated in the comments for her unprofessionalism.

Keep trying fraus and fanboys.

Lol you’re trying it R417.

Nah it's you cunt R418

Lol oh hunny, sad.

The fangirls have invaded DL again

I just watched the 8 episodes with my family, we enjoyed it.

Looking forward to the 2nd season...there is one right?

LMAO at the fangirls making new accounts

R422 yes, The Witcher is getting a second season.

People like a show you dislike, get over it . Incels and fangirls? They are viewers anyway. The show is popular you like it or not. Fucking deal with it. I don't even like it that much, but your dilusions triggered me.

Keep getting triggered fat cunt. Clearly you liked it since your grammar is that of a second grader. Anyone with a rational brain can see the show is bad af.

And you think poor quality is somehow proof against a show being popular, R426? How many seasons did Seventh Heaven and According to Jim stay on the air?

You comparing it to these ratchet shows just proves my point.

The only reason they lasted this long was we only had TV for entertainment then and simple mided people dominated the viewership in that era.

And 7th Heaven was lucky enough to have a pedo as one of the leads.

Supposedly, they spent months on this, but I can't believe it.

That hairline is atrocious. Fake AF. Was it from Spirit Halloween?

R418 What's the matter cunts? The show blows in more ways than one.

Ask Mr Joey Batey for more detail

It's strange seeing 10/10 reviews. It barely makes a 5 in my eyes. It has potential though. They just need to fire all the writers.and editors.

Still a huge hit!

Stay salty

Fancunts are still trying to prove this sorry excuse of a show is a good one LMAO!

It's like the song Friday by Rebecca Black, millions of views but trash content.

Stay Dumb R435

Clearly written by a gamer fanboy like all of the other positive reviews this show got.

There are certainly parallels with how earworm-y and awful that song is.

Nobody cares about The Cunter.

Thank God for more cardio videos 😄

He's aging like milk

the metal cover of the toss song, he also did a cover of the white wolf song.

Star Wars just crossed a billion dollars.

Shows you how much crazy fanatics will go overboard for a barely mediocre writing and story.

Henry's on his knees that this show is a hit, because obviously, he doesn't have anything lined up.

R445 he has . just wait some time and you will see

^^^ Won't go into specifics because they know jack shit.

Never read a book or played the game. Obvious who it's aimed at. Too much nubile,unnecessary female tit. A bit of Quasi Lessie stuff doing it for the boys. Boring. The only relationship with a spark is Henry and the Bard. His constantly having to save him is a good storyline. Getting them to eventually realise they care for one another could be a good twist. But that won't go anywhere. Every time they get remotely affectionate they have to loudly state 'how turned on by pussy they really are. Why is it in these alternative fantasy worlds they can do anything, be anything but when it comes to sex, good old ugly Christian family values raises its ugly head. Sex can only be about fucking women. Won't be watching the next series. Can tell you what it's about. A few monsters, lots of female tit, Henry stopping fighting for a moment to fuck a woman or two. Bored already.

Accurate synopsis, R448!

Still a huge hit. Lol

Still a massive pile of shit. Lol

[quote]It's strange seeing 10/10 reviews. It barely makes a 5 in my eyes. It has potential though. They just need to fire all the writers.and editors.

Count on basement dwellers and Henry obsessed hags to flood the rating systems with perfect stores.

And don't even get me started on Netflix's paid bots and trolls commenting on social media. ;)

I wouldn’t watch this shit again even if Henry shoved a vibrator up his ass.

😉 Series 2 spoiler...

Sorry, not a fanboy and I'm new to Henry Cavill's haters. Why you hate him so much? Because you think he is straight? or because you think he is gay? You are very similar to Armie Hammer's haters. Dilusional and nuts. Yeah, the show is not that good, but is a huge hit, and you can't change that. Must be killing you. Bye forever lunatics

So you think because we know he's gay we're haters?

Laterssss fat HC cunt!

R455 didn't enjoy the show, but god forbid if we critise it!

If you're new to DL, why don't you read the hundred of threads we have already filled about him? It might help you understand why we can be a fan, and still be critical of his work or his action...

Every week or so we get someone popping in posting the same thing as R455. It's boring now so move along if you cannot handle others having a difference of opinion to you.

Criticism ≠ haters.

R458 They're usually the same cunts from the HCavill thread so don't pay any mind to them. it gets them off.

R455 Shut up Lauren Cuntrich.

Shilling as per...

[quote]Henry shoved a vibrator up his ass.

Pics please.

Look at him finding the exact spot for the light to hit his face.

Henry still laughs like fat Cavill

I started watching it last night and the thing that pisses me off the most is how it's filmed. Ridiculously close shots of the actors that shut out the environment around them. One of the reasons Game Of Thrones was so great was that they hardly ever did this, most scenes showcased the sets and the extras, which made the world feel real. When almost every shot is a close up on the top of an actor's chest and their head, the world doesn't feel real. I feel like I'm watching two actors on a shitty film set, not two characters in this world.

The plot is a bit confusing, but it doesn't really bother me because most sci-fi and fantasy shows are like that. The fact that Cavill is never naked bothers me but whatever. I wish the fight scenes were a bit better and that they showcased the CGI a bit more. I also wish they wouldn't have done whatever they did to the camera to make the world look so fake. They added some sort of ugly filter or something which turned the world into this grey, ugly, plastic looking mess.

I'm enjoying it simply for the hilarity of having Cavill and the Bard get super close and affectionate and boyfriend-y with one another only to have the writers shoehorn in some line about them wanting to fuck girls. Straight people's crippling fear of platonic male intimacy is always funny.

The first episode is such a confusing mess and unwatchable. It doesn’t start getting better until the second episode when Yennifer appears. They should have made that the first episode.

The problem with this show is that it doesn’t explain their universe. What the heck is a Witcher? What powers do they have? What do they do? How do they cum to be? Buffy answered all these questions and set up the universe in the first episode. The Witcher still hasn’t after 8 episodes.

[Quote] Buffy answered all these questions and set up the universe in the first episode.

Sadly there will never be another show like it 😔

R464 To hell with the plot, you just want to look at something cool on the screen like fights and CGI. Well, alrighty then!

Fangirls have arrived. Synchronized posting are we?

Please don't compare a crap production like the Witcher to a great storytelling series like Buffy.

*not even being sarcastic

Netflix catching flax for counting 2 minutes as an actual view of a show.

R468 After years and years of terrible fantasy shows, and more importantly shitty shows from Netflix with paper thin plots, I've learned to take what little crumbs I can get. As long as it looks good I don't give a shit about the plot, which from what I pieced together just sounds like a crappy mix of Game Of Thrones and Buffy without the writing skills or wit.

The Witcher ratings. I wished she would have talked about the 2 minute thing.

It must be true that he is difficult to work with, because compared to other actors like him, he's not getting enough work.

I've finally finished watching so I can now read and contribute to this thread!

My thoughts are that overall I liked it. It didn't blow me away, but it was generally well-crafted and kept my interest. I absolutely HATED that they jumped around timelines without any way to make that clear which I thought was unnecessarily confusing for an audience.

Initially I wasn't sold on the casting choices, especially for Yennefer as I had the character from The Witcher 3 so fixated in my mind and she didn't look or sound like her, but I warmed to her and thought overall she was my favourite character.

I felt 8 episodes was too short, there wasn't enough detail in the world building for me, I'm familiar with the world from reading one of the books and playing the games but so much is just glossed over or never explained and I think that was a mistake.

Henry was actually a great choice for Geralt. His neutral flat delivery was perfect. Would have loved to see even more of his body. I felt he was completely sidelined in the last episode though. I would very much like to be ploughing him hard while he says "Fuck. Geralt-style over and over.

I thought it was odd that they used the original name Jaskier for Dandelion. When his character came into it I thought "Oh it's Dandelion" but he was being called Jaskier and I thought I had it wrong, I actually had to look it up that it was his original name. If the entire world outside of Poland knows a character by a particular name, it seems weird not to use that.

There could have been more monsters in it. Goes back to it not having enough episodes I guess, and also I suppose to some extent budget, but a Witcher is a monster-hunter for hire and it would have been fun to see a few more Witcher contracts. Or even just encounters with random monsters while travelling. The ones they did have, I thought they did really well.

The fight scenes were brilliant. Bloody and brutal and very well choreographed. I think Henry did an excellent job with the sword play.

They should have used/explained Witcher signs more, and he should have used more potions. Maybe this is just because when I play the game you are using them constantly but it felt like they were lacking.

The music/score was great. Great acting from everyone really. Mostly good writing.

I'd probably give an overall score of say, 7 or 8 out of 10 for this first season. I am excited to see what they do next, with hopefully a bigger budget, a more conventional timeline and now the main characters are established.

R474 She's shilling for Netflix now, that's why.

R475 does he have a bad rep on set?? Aside Stephen Dorff, who else has said he's an asshole?? Or is it the Superman curse 😜

Well, he did walk off the set of a movie he was producing.

[quote] It must be true that he is difficult to work with, because compared to other actors like him, he's not getting enough work.

I don't believe that. Grace Randolph is the only one saying that bullshit. He's not getting enough work because he has lousy representation. Also, he doesn't seem particularly driven. It's not just film roles either. He's one of the most attractive men in Hollywood, yet has only had a few brand endorsements. Even his social/charity causes are kinda' meh. Given his "Fat Cavill" childhood, I'm surprised he didn't align himself with an anti-bullying organization. Or one that promotes children's physical fitness. The guy was Superman, but did he ever visit any children's hospitals in character?

Why did Steven Dwarf say Henry is an asshole? 🔆

R479 I didn't here this. Article link?... What was the name of the film?

[quote]Given his "Fat Cavill" childhood, I'm surprised he didn't align himself with an anti-bullying organization.

You know what? You are absolutely right. Instead of doing charity work for zoos and the Royal Marines, why doesn’t he try doing something to help a cause that actually affected him personally?

[quote] I didn't here this. Article link?... What was the name of the film?

See link below.

[quote]I don't believe that. Grace Randolph is the only one saying that bullshit. He's not getting enough work because he has lousy representation. Also, he doesn't seem particularly driven.

It's all that too and he's been known to be difficult.

[Quote] Also, he doesn't seem particularly driven.

Well isn't he in this for the money??

[Quote] Well, he did walk off the set of a movie he was producing.

Stratton turned out to be shit. Don't think he could've saved it.

[quote]Stratton turned out to be shit. Don't think he could've saved it.

Whether he could have save it or not is not the point. The point is he walked off the set, which caused them to scramble to keep the project afloat. He greenlit the script and still didn't like it. He walked off the set and didn't seem to care, which added to the case that he is difficult to work with.

Why do people care so much about there being non-white characters in various films and TV shows? There have been plenty of times where white actors and actresses have played characters that were originally non-white, and yet I bet the same people complaining about fOrCeD dIvErSiTy weren't whining then.

Scarlett Johansson has played an Asian woman -- so has Emma Stone. And hell, Angelina Jolie has played a fucking black woman. If white people can replace non-whites, why can't the opposite be done?

The main character in Ghost in the Shell was a white woman. Scarlett Johansson was a white woman playing a white woman.

Scarlett's character in the movie was white, people just assume that her character is supposed to be asian because the movie was based on a manga, which is a little bit racist in-and-of itself. That being said, I don't think making Yennifer black mattered. They could've made her purple and it still wouldn't have saved this shitfest.

R480 stay angry and delusional. Now flock back to LSA

[quote] stay angry and delusional. Now flock back to LSA

Go sit yo' simple ass down somewhere. He DOES have lousy representation. And his career - in every sense - has always seemed as though it's just been limping along. He's been up for and landed some of the most coveted roles in Hollywood, yet he still seems to be straddling the B-list. His social media presence is underwhelming, as are his charities. There have been actors have done far more with far less. Now tell me --- where are the lies?

Nature's superman <3

Cringing.

Who styled him?

So ugly.

R493 ohh that was cringey. I wonder how much they paid him to film that??

Too much, whatever the amount was.

I’ve tried several times to watch this but I’m finding it almost literally unwatchable. Why does it have such a fan base? It’s now the most watched streaming show, even more than The Mandalorian.

R498 No way, that can't be true. I'll believe it when I see it, pull up receipts Bootsy.

You mean most watched? Oh fine I’ll google it and find the article I read a few days ago.

Here it is Miss Thomas, as in doubting! I’ll take your apology at your earliest convenience.

Bootsy, Netflix is playing fast and loose with the views of the Witcher. They now count only two minutes as a view.

R501 Thanks, Bootsy!

"No, I'll believe it when I see it. Show me!"

(Is shown.)

"The methodology is wrong!!!"

(Why bother?)

R504 I'm not R502

[quote]That being said, I don't think making Yennifer black mattered.

They only made Yennifer black to applease the SJWs but the show is still horrible.

It's weird how this show manages to look both gorgeous and ugly, both expensive and cheap, and do it all simultaneously.

Another reason this show fails is that it's very clearly trying to imitate the emersion of the world of Ice & Fire, but unlike in Game Of Thrones, all of the terms sound ridiculous. All of the names for realms, ranks, food, magic, etc all sound organic in Game Of Thrones. As if they could be legitimate medieval terms. The terms in this show just sound like lazy gibberish

To be fair, r508, this show was based on books originally written in Polish, and the names which definitely sound hokey to us may be fine to speakers of Slavic languages.

R506 You think the girl who play Yennifer is black? You didn't watch the show right? because if it's the case you need to get glasses, and quick! Her father being indian is the only "diversity" you will find in her. (don't get into the cast system in india, it's complicated...)

The all "they changed a character for diversity" drama was about one witch, and her father, the one who got a job for his daughter even thought she is shit at her job... (great positive role!)

R510 Who got a job for their daughter?

He's referring to the wizard character Arturo Vigo on the show, who tried to get his niece Fringilla a plum assignment before Yennefer fouled that up by doing her She's All That post-makeover strut onto the dancefloor and nabbing the post instead.

Oh, so some make-believe shit.

R512 thank you, I got confused with the timeline AND the characters ! I imagine if witches get their reproductive system removed, the wizard must have the snip as well, and therefore can't have kids ?

***** SPOILER AHEAD*****

OK, so I’m watching this, and here’s something that makes no sense to me: The underlying and common thread on this series is free will vs. destiny.

So far, all of the characters whom have special gifts, seem to believe in destiny. The biggest and most obvious character who doesn’t, is Geralt of Rivea, aka: the main male protagonist, played by Cavil.

What has been puzzling me, is that the Law of Surprise keeps getting claimed. The law of Surprise, to me, represents chaos, disorder, and an interruption in fulfilling what has been carved out, and predestined. Yet, how can the law be claimed, had it not been merited in the past, henceforth, manifesting destiny?

How is it a surprise? It’s not. It’s a code of honor, and predestined to be honored in the future, yet the characters are constantly opposing, rejecting, and not proactively honoring their promised destiny, , because they had planned or wanted something else, rather than chips being cashed in, as originally promised, between the parties whom agreed to it.

Surprise is not free will, nor chaos, it turns out. Perhaps the writers never thought that people would catch this? Even as called upon as a surprise, it is not. It is actually, true order, hence, making it a contractual obligation.

What bugs me, is that this plot device, is used in order to represent chaos, and obviously, dramatic tension. But logically, as in philosophically, it’s a weird plot device, and leaves the development of the story and the inner minds of the characters, navigating shallow waters, rather than dealing with the ever timeless questions: Why are we here? And do we have a choice, about anything?

Personally, I don’t believe in free will. And I don’t mind watching supernatural/fantasy series, and usually enjoy them. However, all roads and answers lead back to Geralt and Yennifer.

These two main characters should be developed within parameters that don’t question destiny. being that they understand their future had been forced or predestined upon them. They both lack self awareness, and are wrought in petulance, yet seek power over the same destiny that brought them together, and had them fall in love. A good thing, yes?

Perhaps I’m overthinking, which I tend to do, but predetermination isn’t susceptible to magic, chaos or the illusion/perception of free will.

As we say, it is what it is.

I just want the show over.

It's so tedious and nonsensical.

Started watching a few months ago, made it to episode five, stopped watching, got bored during quarantine and came back to rewatch.

In retrospect the Cintra plot line is hilariously bad. They tried to do a Game Of Thrones thing but it didn't work because of how nothing makes sense. The king and queen learn of an impending invasion and don't even try to take precautionary measures, which makes no sense as they have a fucking wizard on their side. The invaders arrive and they only bring like 200 people to defend the kingdom, including the king and queen, who are on the front lines and completely unprotected (hilariously stupid) which proves to be a bad idea when the king dies like five seconds into the battle. Then, after the battle is lost, the invaders march on the city and begin to sack it which makes no sense because they're burning down a city they're trying to take over.

No defense measures, barely a fight, and Cintra falls like less than 8 hours after the invaders show up. The King and Queen sucked at their jobs.

It really is a shame that the writing sucks, considering the acting is actually good and the score is beautiful.

The wig looks better.

Any dirt on the cast besides Henry, like Eamon Farren, Anya Chalotra or Joey Batey?