Too much baggage for a sugar daddy?

Whore.

[quote] where it was more of a relationship and I have with them, working selectively.

Please translate this into English.

this isn't baggage, you're damaged goods dear, off to the glue factory

R2, “I have lived with them, working selectively.”

Sorry about that.

Yeah, the baggage is negotiable if you haven’t aged out.

You have. Good luck at starbucks.

I mean I tried to upload a pic of myself but don’t know how. I am not aging out and I still have my body. December is just difficult with the holidays.

Got kik? I can send it there lol.

You better hope your next daddy will pay for your ESL classes and GED.

We'll need pics of alleged muscular body in order to make recommendations.

This thread is useless without pics.

Here are a few pics I threw together in a blog. All have been taken within the past two years.

Have tried rent.men? Cause pretty much that's your level right now.

Best of luck to you.

Being a "sugar baby" is the equivalent of being an underpaid and overworked prostitute. Why don't you just work as an escort? You make more money. Then save your money and go back to school part time. You're getting old now and modeling won't cut it for much longer. You'll only find elderly daddies willing to spoil you, at your age.

Hi, Collin. Muscles are ok. Do you exercise your brain? Read books? Follow current events? Speak another language (better than you speak English)?

If your mind is as strong as your body, then you’re fit to begin seeking a sugar daddy.

Thank you for having the guts to put your photo out there. I think you'd look better and younger without the beard, by the way. I think you need to define what you want, and do the math. Being an escort is soul-destroying, but you make money. Being a sugar baby, you have security and someone who cares for you. R14 make some good points Good luck.

Honey,you've been looking at "29" in the rearview mirror for a while now.

The danger of relying solely on looks in your 20s. Use the looks to gain a useful career skill that can make money at 45. Like a realtor.

R14 and R15, thank you for the kind words.

I like reading about fitness and healthy eating online.

For the haters out there, I have dyslexia and chose to listen to Audible over reading sometimes. Which has made me a very good listener.

You could also create online content. In 2020 that is the way to go if you no longer want the face to face contact and day to day dealings with a daddy.

You could also keep a daddy on the side. If you're going to be a whore than you might as well have multiple revenue streams.

You could also create online content. In 2020 that is the way to go if you no longer want the face to face contact and day to day dealings with a daddy.

You could also keep a daddy on the side. If you're going to be a whore than you might as well have multiple revenue streams.

What’s that triangular food item on your plate?

You're 29, OP? You're too old for a sugar daddy. You're practically an eldergay.

Whore.

A friend of my husband’s is now 38 and coming to the sad realization that he can’t coast on his good looks and bubbly personality forever. He’s what people at Burning Man call a “sparkle pony” - just expecting the world to provide for him because he’s just so fabulous.

He learned how to do hair, but can’t seem to keep a job for more than a couple of weeks, because he’s too busy auditioning for his next sugar daddy. And now he’s reached the end of the line in our expensive coastal city and is having to move back in with his (biological) daddy in Red America.

Don’t be like him, OP.

Hey I think you’re hot. If I was rich I’d sugar daddy you.

You have a fine, strong body. Get a job.

You are a good looking man. You may need to pursue even older and more desperate men than you are used to, because you definitely look mid 30s. And there is nothing wrong with that.

Bravo on putting the pics out there. If I were you, I would be looking for personal happiness. You don’t want to turn 40 and see that you squandered your youth by paying your bills like this. Not only is that revenue stream disappearing, but with it your youth. Look at what your memories will be.

Good luck to you.

There's different types of sugar daddies. There's the type you're pretty much up front with, as in: I need financial support/you like fucking a young hot specimen. There's companionship sometimes in these exchanges, and that can be good or bad depending on how much time your "daddy" demands of you. There's also the type of sugar daddy where you actually become their partner. No fucking around, till death do us part is implied (or maybe actual marriage). If you go this route, you'll probably want a fairly wealthy "daddy" who'll expect at least the image of "love", someone he'll depend on later in life, and who will put you in the will. If you use the first type of sugar daddy, at least get a degree or start up a business-something you'll need when the relationship(s) inevitably ends. If you go the long term, long haul marry a daddy and take care of him to the end, that can be your "profession" and you'll be tied down more but you can stay free from study or work and focus more on the gym and being a boy toy to a wealthy gentleman.

29 is 45 in Gay Years.

All the hot young things will expect YOU to be the sugar daddy now!

I bet you are sloppy. No man wants that.

Enjoy clerking at the gas station.

OP - six sugar daddies already! Bravo I guess. Why would you ask for advice here? Many DLers are old, bitter, strapped for cash, and unfucked. You seem to know very well how to do it.

I can’t believe all y’all think OP is the guy in the pictures.

Actually I can. I just had higher hopes than I should have.

TTIUWP

TTIUWP

Some of you have been really helpful, thanks. Do you guys think I’m ruining my life by having daddies?

Well if any of you are brave enough to message me directly, my kik is on my blog. I will send more so you guys can get up close and personal too.

Well yes, OP, the Datalounge IS a good place to look for your next sugar daddy!

If you aren't too picky, of course.

I don’t believe OP is in the pics, either.

If he is, then he’s hoping to find his daddy here, where everyone is old and claims to be rich.

Are you cut or uncut?

Are you a top or a bottom?

Do you drain pasta?

OP what do you have against just escorting? Most daddies are cheap and entitled. Not to mention you have to put a lot of time into them to get nice payoff. If they give you cash, which you obviously need, you're pretty much a sex worker anyway.

Especially given how high the hourly rate has gotten for escorting, it does seem much more efficient. Though I don’t know how you weed out the gross psychos.

I don’t really want to be an escort because I feel like that is a really rough life. I mean I really do care about the guys I’m in a relationship with. I live with them, we cook together, see movies, etc.

All of my exes have been tops and I am cut.

You've had 6 daddies and you haven't built any kind of nest egg for yourself?

DUMBASS

OP really doesn't know how to dig gold SAD!

OP, you're handsome. However, right now, your resume consists only of "Sugar Baby." You (as a middle-aged Sugar Baby) might harpoon an elderly whale, like Jerry Hall did with Rupert Murdoch. Odds are, your Sugar Baby days are numbered.

You say you're 29, so I'll start with that. Would you rather be 29 and trying to start a career? Or would your rather be 35 or 39 and trying to start a new career?

What "baggage" do you have besides what's in your head?

First OP, be honest with us about your age. You've been saying you are 29 for many years haven't you?

[Quote]All of my exes have been tops

Oh honey, you are an aging bottom? Learn how to top pronto. You are really restricting yourself if you are a bottom.

Also do you not have an instagram?! What person who relies on their looks doesn't have an instagram.

Get yourself together, man. This is how Andrew Cunanan started.

Yeah OP - you need to study and learn from the best. Each one should make you a little bit richer and give you a little more status.

Yeah, after 6 sugar daddies, OP should have some actual real estate by now. A town house, at least. If I were a sugar baby, never mind with handbags and trips to tropical islands. You should be stashing away cash.

Exactly R48. If I had ever been pretty enough to be a sugar baby, I would've gotten college paid for and focused on gifts that I could sell when he was ready to move on. EXIT STRATEGY bitches.

Beauty is wasted on idiots.

I really am 29! No lie. I have always looked older with a beard. I’m also a Pisces haha

R50...oh you're a zodiac queen.

-closes checkbook-

You should go to community college. Learn about John Locke, Wittgenstein and Edgar Allen Poe. Suckers get impressed when u start talking about them in casual conversation. I went back to college in my 30's, saved a little bit of money, and opened a small business. That year from 29 to 30 is frightening. But you gotta grow up.

Freelance modeling is barely working. Do you have other jobs as well? Jobs that have possibilities for the future? Have you dated and had relationships with guys your own age? If not, why not?

^You can work that 'appeal-to-authority' name-droppy shtick right up to about 28-- at that age people begin to wonder if you're all blow no go.

You are very handsome...no room for debate on this...it is a blessing because your looks will open many doors. Now figure out what kind of career you want to pursue and set a goal for that end and if you meet another wealthy man be honest and let him know that this is your goal and he can be part of the journey with you.

OP at R50, I'm a Pisces, too. I looked 22 until I was 33. Then around 36, I woke up looking 44! I never understood the oft-used on DL expression about someone's looks having "hit the wall" until that day.

You better get something else going for you post haste!

Good luck op

You're sexy, OP. If I were not middle-class, I'd hire you to be my sugar baby.

Well if you guys still want to talk, you can kik me. I’m not completely soulless and greedy like some say I am.

Take this as helpful advise - you need to take control of your life and not wait for other men to take care of you. I would encourage you to a trade school (you can make good money in many fields and not as much time invested) and work as a private trainer until you graduate.

Also, is something wrong with your stomach? It looks fuzzed out around the belly button area - tattoo gone bad??

Such salt.....

There there baby. A real Daddy understands and is there to help you with that baggage. Chin up.

[quote] if you meet another wealthy man be honest and let him know that this is your goal and he can be part of the journey with you.

Mary! Get out my mug!

I'll let you know if I win the lottery tonight.

I don't think you're soulless or greedy. I think you're an idiot.

Why is everyone giving heartfelt advice? The lad is just fishing for customers with these repeated invitations to "kik him".

R65 - don't you think we are being sarcastic?

Why have you been dumped six times ??? Why did you dump your daddies???

Either you are non committal or have gotten sloppy.

Boy, you really have ruined your life. You are jobless and homeless with a stretched out sphincter....

Yeah - kik = scam .

What R26 said. Plus, you’re an attractive white male in the USA and despite what people say, you are NOT an endangered species and should be able to find a career that is not predicated solely on your age and beauty. Suck it up and do something with your life that you’ll be proud of in your twilight years.

And, I definitely do not mean any offense, but you sound a tad whine-y. Not at all attractive.

So hot! Any pics of your feet?

What's wrong with being a sugar baby? I started out as a sugar baby and now I'm first lady

See R67. So you got fired from six jobs. You must have some real neediness and personality issues, now is a good time to work on that while you are still relatively young.

Considering the top to bottom ratio, you will probably have more luck once you learn to top. Good luck and have fun, cunt.

Collin: I wish you well.

This sounds like yet another plot some frau is writing for her latest Amazon Kindle novel.

Begone stinkfish, begone.

I mean this entire thing is definitely bullshit r69.

Anyone who was some hot model type wouldn't have to create a random blog to share pictures. They would just link to their Instagram or to some of their modeling work online. OP's obsession in every post of encouraging people to contact this account on Kik, does indicate it is some sort of scam.

This is OP. Not a scam, but believe what you want.

Maybe I want to keep my privacy to random people out on the internet. Just because of my job does not mean I am going to share my entire life with people.

Also, I do have an undergraduate Kinesiology degree.

OP, you look delicious. I’d sell my last sarong for you to be my daddy.

So why have your relationships with your sugar daddies ended? How did you being a kept boy start?

You started this thread but have been skimpy on the actual details. Didn't you want to talk through some of this baggage?

Colin let's be honest.. You not that hot to start with, and you're hitting your sell by date at 150 mph now. The market is overcrowded with super hot instahoes and fitness models nowadays. This isn't 2003 anymore, when at 33yo you could still find an older closeted movie star and keep the modeling on the side.I know I have. But I was still hotter than you. You need to find a sugar grandpa very quickly and get hitched. Good luck hunty.

Well I’m trying to do better. I applied for a personal trainer job at a private gym in my area and I model most weekends.

Having a daddy was like having a non judgmental listener who can help you develop your career. The sex was good too.

R82 well you clearly failed at the helping develop your career part

There is no such thing as an old personal trainer Colin Trust me I have walked the walk.

R84 narrow exception, but I wholeheartedly agree. The pay is pretty lame and many of the gyms have their own certification program. So, an unpronounceable undergrad is Barrista career track.

My last personal trainer not only had his degree in sports medicine, he was also a fitness model who was on the cover of several national magazines. Straight, hot and hilarious. He didn’t cut me any slack. He had a sizable following. But, a few years ago, he got out as well.

That’s life after 35 as a trainer.

Best thing for you is to find a rich old man. A very rich, very old man. Someone who is terminally ill with no heirs. Sure, you may have to help change his diapers for a few months and maybe change the oxygen tank if his nurse isn't around, but in the end it will be worth it.

Listen to R86 Colin. He speaks the word of truth.

[quote]Also, I do have an undergraduate Kinesiology degree.

Let me guess -- Trump University?

[quote]Many DLers are old, bitter, strapped for cash, and unfucked.

Well, I'm three out of the four.

Yeah, OP. What baggage are you talking about? Age you mean??

Hey R89. I'm not the prettiest but I'm well read and funny :)

Get in touch with Peter Thiel

So, OP, I stopped reading at “So,”.

Some men like boys with experience.

I did learn a lot about wines and wine pairings when cooking a meal.

Wine and wine pairings?! Man, you're gonna have to up your game to compete in today's sugar world.

[quote]Many DLers are old, bitter, strapped for cash, and unfucked.

And even with that they STILL won't touch his Whore ass.

That's the competition Colin. Do you think you can align ?

[quote] . I am a muscular freelance model, and things are a little tight financially

You sound fat and unemployed

[quote] . I am a muscular freelance model, and things are a little tight financially

You sound fat and unemployed

What else do you guys want to know?

Why don't you porn out ? It can be a smart career move

Nothing R100 . You seem a bit dense Collin. A tease, and annoying.

You’re still a whore

You are super hot and have a great body, but six sugar daddies, DAMN.. At least you lived with them.

No matter how many kegel exercises you do, you are still going to be well used and sloppy.

r100 all I want to know is why you're using pics of some old dude and claim you're 29. Lots of pics of hot guys in their 20s out there you could be using. Work smarter not harder.

Hey Collin! I think you’re very handsome and you seem nice. I was in pretty much the same situation as you all throughout my 20s and early 30s. I had quite a few older “friends” who helped me financially along the way, and I enjoyed world travel and fine dining. When I hit 35, I noticed the younger, hotter competition and knew I needed a plan B. I completed a 2 year healthcare degree at a local community college and now make around $60,000 a year at 40 years old. I won’t be rich, but I can pay my bills. I’m so grateful for this paycheck every 2 weeks, because I still occasionally see “hustlers” I knew back then and they are struggling with minimal wage jobs in their late 30s and it’s not a good look! My advice: get that in-demand vocational degree and get to work. Revel in the fact that you got to spend your 20s living your best life, and not in an office!

Collin - You seem like a nice guy and are very handsome. Do you think you could take on Jwan Yosef, the guy R97 posted, in the looks and muscle department? He looks pretty strong. That is what a lot of sugar daddies want...looks and strong muscles.

I in the "get a job" camp. You'll be 50 before you know it. Learn a trade. Become a plumber and then you can be someone else's sugar daddy.

[quote] I completed a 2 year healthcare degree at a local community college and now make around $60,000 a year at 40 years old. I won’t be rich, but I can pay my bills.

But will you be able to save enough for when you want to be a sugar daddy yourself?

Why are some of you so mean on here?

Jealousy? Frustration?

Andy Cohen did say about us: there is no crueler place than that vile pit of trollery

You've entered the snake pit Collin.

It's called tough love Colin. You simply can't compete with Jwan, or Steve the brockman, or any of the great sugarbabies of our age. You need to see that. Find a real job before it's too late. We are trying to save you.

Save me from what?

Slut.

Time for a new troll post there, pops. Umm, I mean Colin.

This one has run its course.

OP, I think you're hot, but I do think you need to be thinking about making a career pivot at this point. This week I went to a gay strip club in my town and talked with someone who is almost exactly in your circumstances: he has been a sugar baby since he left high school, and has also been a model (not a runway model or an A-level model for fancy brands, but for Internet ads). He was strikingly handsome (though not as buff as you are), but he told me the modeling work was drying up and no new sugar daddies had presented themselves in quite a while. He has no college education and is trying to make money in property management, but he picked up expensive tastes while being a sugar baby and is having trouble paying off his Lexus (!!!), and so was going to moonlight doing some stripping. He really seemed like a sweet guy, and he was incredibly hot, but he also seemed so lost.

Beauty is temporary--you have only to look at former incredibly hot male celebrities like Russell Crowe or Jan Michael Vincent to see how quickly it can pass.

Poor Collin. He was looking for Daddy Lounge and ended up here.

Lol at R117. But, more than anything Collin how did these sugar daddys become of money? They didn't wine and let their anxiety over come their fears. Get out there. Develop contacts from the older folks and follow what they did right. Knowledge is worth more than free lodging and a free meal at Morton's.

I say continue living life the way you are. Find another daddy. YOLO.

[quote] Do you guys think I’m ruining my life by having daddies?

Absolutely not. Sugar daddies are an essential part of a well-rounded life.

Colon types fat housewife.

Even if he wanted to "get out," doing so is pretty hard, especially if he's been doing it all through his 20s. The habits you make in your 20s are pretty much for life.

He also sounds like he "enjoys" it, so no harm no foul, really. The Sugar Daddies know that their value is money, and Collin knows his value is in his orifices. If he finds an older guy that "knows what the deal is," what's the issue?

I think you all are projecting a bit here. Some people don't want or will never adjust to a 9-5, and they don't want to go back to school to learn a trade that they don't want.

He's 29. This is the life he chose. Good luck!

And him going through multiple sugar daddies doesn't surprise me. The issue with that setup is that either the sugar baby wants more freedom, the sugar daddy wants to pay less, the sugar daddy wants "more" (i.e. actual love with someone who truly cares), or the sugar daddy is tired of fucking the same old thing when he can do what he did to get Collin in the first place: throw some money at a hottie.

I wouldn't be surprised if these transactions (because they certainly aren't loving, reciprocal, healthy relationship) lasted about a year or thereabouts. Sexual attraction is red-hot the first 12 months of knowing someone, and then after that, their gorgeous dick or plump ass isn't so WOOOOOOW anymore. At that point, humans usually aren't phased so intensely by beauty, especially if they're paying out the ass. They start noticing the more minute details about someone.

So, Collin, how long were they?

[quote] Why are some of you so mean on here?

Have you visited DataLounge before?

Also, what’s up with that very large tattoo?

You guys are funny! You ask me questions but then judge me based on my answers.

They’re just jealous, Collin.

Huh?

The issue with sugar babying is you age out quickly. Even at 29, you’d be competing with young, super hot himbos and young, super hot students using this money to set themselves up. Eventually you have to either snag a permanent glucose guardian, hopefully with no heirs and just marry them and stick it out until they die or become self sufficient. If you’ve had six daddies and still aren’t financially secure, I’d imagine you’ve had cheap daddies or you spend too much. Each Daddy should be richer and more generous than the last, leaving you better off than the last. If you aren’t doing that, you’re just an escort with too much ennui to escort properly and not a career sugar baby. Get out now, or find a final Daddy to either marry or one to pay your way through school.

You know Elizabeth Taylor was married 7 times to significantly older men.

Collin, you type crazy now. Elizabeth Taylor was considered the most beautiful woman of all tome and was the movie star of all movie stars, the ultimate trophy. You are a nobody and rather unramarkable in the looks department. Enough already. Get a degree

Six tops in ten years? Keep going and you're gonna be in Pampers by the time you're 35 if you aren't already. It's the Hershey Highway to Hell, putting it out there night after night for cash and prizes and wine pairings in the service of some serial rich fucks' kinks. Enjoy!

Time to take stock and make plans. You sound competent as you bs us, OP, but not brilliant. The stars can tell you more than I can, but I'd say the trades are the place for you. People always need plumbers and the 40's - 50's hot plumber market is seriously undeserved these days (trust me on this one) so if you're taking care of yourself, learning something, building a business or at least a skill, one that's always in demand; and you're willing to clean up a bit - the beard must go; maybe nice Speedos or a hot jockstrap - you could milk this thing for another twenty years or so while at the same time building equity.

But'cha have to do it retail: make the sale and keep the customer. Learn how to cut up his chicken and inject his insulin and when to turn him to minimize bedsores. And how to slobber convincingly on his dead dick with minimal vomiting. As everyone else has already told you: get your name on the will and the keys to the car and the code to the alarm and remember that each Daddy is the profitable stepping stone to the next. Stepping over his gravestone, well-cared-for to the end. You sound like you don't want to work that hard; just to get it hard up your ass, dick after dick after dick, and this during your prime working years? Not strategic at all. Liz was getting diamonds and Rolls-Royces and private planes for a shot at her ass. Jerry Hall got Rupert and no doubt a healthy pre-nup. If you did that well, you wouldn't be here looking for business on kik.

Stop just standing there, enjoyable as you are to watch while you flex and pose. Listen to your head, not your overheated mangina. Get a real job.

As a living, the way you've been doing it is fast coming to a close.

I didn't know there were Sugar Baby/Kept Boy bottoms.

Tell us why/how your relationships ended?

Wow! OP, did you just compare yourself to Elizabeth Taylor?! Man, you are delusional.

R128, only Michael Wilding was significantly older than she was. Her last husband was significantly younger, as you’d expect, since she was paying the bills.

Move to Palm Springs. You'll count as fresh twink there and will find a daddy...

OP wants to continue, somewhat at least, in the vein of sugar baby (DL poster name is Collin "boy"), personal trainer, and model. No college degree, no apprenticeship as a plumber, etc.

Then OP is doomed.

Oh, you have a second thread OP. From your pics it looks like you enjoy lounging about. But, you gotta hustle. Don't be work shy. People like a fighter. You're a good looking man with a nice smile. Good luck.

R133, Mike Todd was also much older than her

R137 how did that end? I’ll bet it was a flameout.

Not interested in this topic at all, but R32 is right. No way is the OP the guy in the pictures.

Can I play you OP ?

[quote]Move to Palm Springs. You'll count as fresh twink there and will find a daddy...

And you can work the "fresh twink" angle until you're at least 60 in Palm Springs.

I’m just trying to live my best life

R143 Don't keep going back and forth with these niggas.

If I had the money and were older, I would make you my sugar baby, but alas, I'm only beginning my career, and I'm way younger than you.

R146 thanks for the support

You other guys treat me like I’m some well used common whore...

Not fun

How old are you R145?

R147 He's 29.

Speaking of which, did Colin end up meeting any DLers in real life?

I'm thinking yeah, R148. Are you kidding, That wine pairing skill is untenable. A real life skill for a successful career.

Whore

OP, your time would be better spent in community college. If you can get in, give it a try. Knowledge is power.

The clock stops at midnight for no one. Your body is on its way out.

Collin, I have no idea if you’ve too much baggage for a sugar daddy, but you’re definitely desperate enough to post pics of whom you claim to be you, on an anonymous message board, sharing what is your image, with people who you have no idea about, and who cannot indulge you financially, nor would, if they could.

I genuinely hope this is an EST. You’re absolutely adorable. Really handsome. I hope you meet someone whom YOU genuinely love, rather than financially depend upon. And with zero shade or shame, I also suggest you either write out these threads when you’re not under the influence, or invest in furthering your education, in order to come across a little better than you did with your opening post.

Collin, being financially independent, or contributing to a household equally, with others, is almost always necessary for people to become emotionally independent and resilient. I know shit is expensive as hell now, but wanna know what’s worth more than “stuff”, or rent? Your self esteem, Collin. Your spirit, or soul, or core being, or whatever you wanna calm it. It’s fucking priceless, kid, and anyone who will easily offers to buy YOU, has no concept of how special you are, and will eventually treat you in a way that will be correspondent to that. And the most fucked up part? To them, there’s a million of you, yet facts are, that to you, there is only one of you. If you cannot learn to provide for yourself consistently, you will eventually find yourself in situations where you will become subject to very poor treatment. Not to mention the fact that not becoming self reliant, increases the chances of you facing something people in your position oftentimes face: becoming officially homeless.

I haven’t read this thread, and for sure expect to get flamed in a Sunday morning grease fire for anything or all I wrote.

Fuck ‘em. Best of luck to you, young man.

Please, get thy shitte together, before thou is forced to wallow in the shitte of strangers on the streets.

There's been an update on OP in the other thread he made if anyone is interested in reading about it.

R146 Collin, on DL - we're all well-used common whores. You're just part of the family.

Whore

As a related issue I do wonder 10 years or so from now what will become of many of the current large multitude of male instahoes /Onlyfans goes whose fans and clients are mainly gay men ,when they either age out ,losing some of their peak natural charms and novelty or people get bored of them and move onto flattering their competition the younger next generation hoes?! Coukd we in future be in for a mini epidemic of meltdowns and lives going of the rails?

Not all will cope of that I'm sure.

R156 At a guess, the same thing that happened to all us Elderhoes. They’ll get old. Go through period of mourning and get on with life.

OP, if you're smart you will save up the $$ you get from the sugar daddies. You're not gonna be young forever. Save money for your retirement!

R157 Possibly or they could end up like many ex porn stars and in financial dire straits because many of them are or are akin to porn stars anyway.

Fuck Colin. Someone reached out, and the pussy flaked out. We have been through this exercise already. Omg, the idiot is exhausting

If those are really your pics in r10, you're very handsome. You hit the genetic jackpot. So did I. Instead of asking if you have too much baggage for a sugar daddy, you should be asking yourself what you're going to do when you're 45. It comes fast, believe me. And there's nothing worse than not preparing for the future. Live life on your own merits and power, not a sugar daddy's. It'll be infinitely more rewarding.

[quote]r41 I really do care about the guys I’m in a relationship with. I live with them, we cook together, see movies, etc.

Well, where did they go?

Your problem, OP, is that your whole generation are whores, and so are the younger ones coming up behind you, so what you've got to offer is losing value at an extremely accelerated rate, if there's anything left to lose in the eyes of prospective whoremonger daddies who will probably prefer the 18 yo whore over the 26yo whore.

r273 I am genuinely amazed at how many younger gay men are instahoes, Onlyfans models or escorts, webcam sex workers etc Maybe it's just the distorting affect of Twitter but it seems like many many are in this line of work.Not just the lads who would have likely been rent boys in a previous era but many more beyond that. It's a crowded field and will as you say drive down their value,novelty and prices.

R164 Speaking of which, what ever happened to the rent boy market? There's a significant shortage these days, especially on Rent Men. Is it more underground now or are they just not doing it anymore?

R160 I wonder if he's ever going to respond to the fact that someone called him out for being a total flake. That excuse ought to be good.

So you guys think I’m only good to be a rent boy?

What about the use my ass will take all the time?!

You should be starting your first day of winter semester at community college today, Collin. That would be the smart thing for you to do now.

Respectfully, your time is up. Go get an insurance license or something.

R165, I'm guessing the opposite has occurred to the rentboy market - there are too many of them, and it's not worthwhile to advertise on what I figure are expensive sites. Johns are probably very choosy and waste your time. Easier to get a real estate license.

When I rentboyed 20 years ago, it was quite unusual and there were very few of us. I noticed as the Millennials got into adulthood about 10 years ago the rentboy market got flooded.

R167 We think you're a flake and someone who desperately needs to get their shit together before you end up homeless and alone. You don't have to whore yourself out to do that, just do something where you aren't reliant upon a sugar daddy.

R169 Totally makes sense.

So - I'm interested in the though process you had the past few years. What were you thinking during your 20's? You don't have to work because someone else is paying?

Didn't that get old by the 4th sugar daddy?

You need a game plan and fast. You don't want to reek of desperation - for a guy or for a job.

R167 Are you going to address the accusations in the other thread that you're a total flake?

I’m not a flake. I was doing some modeling jobs and I went to TX for the holidays. Also, I am not always on my phone.

It really pisses me off that you guys cast judgements when you really do not know me. What happened to love and support? I am a person too with feeling and I came on here for help. Instead I got snarky comments.

Everyone in their life has rough patches, but you guys act like your sh*t does not stink.

Collin, what is it you want from us exactly? More adulation (disguised as 'love and support') because you're so HAWT? You've not had enough of that already, with your six sugar daddies?

Clearly DL isn't equipped to deal with your issues to your satisfaction.

R173 Were you aware of what kind of site this was before you posted here? Did you bother to read any of the threads? If you had, you'd have known this was a site for snark and not a place to air out your insecurities and problems. I think the posters here have been kinder to you than you deserve.

Making that poster in the other thread wait over a week to get back to them was a shit thing to do, Colin. Never making solid plans was shitty also. If you want to make friends, you have to be more reliable and actually bother to answer people's texts. It isn't fair to them that they have to make all the initiative. If their accusations aren't true, then tell us why they aren't. Otherwise, you need to learn something here or you're never going to get out of your funk.

None of us claim that our shit doesn't stink, but we don't air our dirty laundry either. You wanted to make new friends. You had a chance to do so and you blew it. That's on you, not anyone else.

OP, get a degree or learn more about something you love, from which you can earn. Beauty fades. Anyway, I wish you well, OP.

define sugar daddy to you. I mean my last bf was 29 I am 46 - he didn't work I do. We travel, cars food, clothes I pay for everything. I am not a millionaire but make a decent living. 250K a year.

r173 here's a hard truth to begin your adult life with -- people don't respect whores, at all. They might *like* whores, they might treat whores nicely, they might defend the whore's choice to whore, but they do not respect them.

r173 not really I respect the guy. Some relationships are complicated some are easy. I don't judge another person on who and how they choose to live. Personally I think he is hot as fuck. He is open and honest, seems to have some self-awareness. If he has half a personality I would marry him in a minute and take care of him.

R179 thank you.

You guys are right. I need to take initiative and become a better person.

[quote] What happened to love and support?

What type of person feels entitled to this from complete strangers? Answer: a narcissist.

[quote] I need to take initiative and become a better person.

Good luck.

OP- go be a rent boy on rentboy. pro

Slut

[quote]You better hope your next daddy will pay for your ESL classes

Oh, dear.

Collinboy, on another thread you said you work in "investments."

When you were with your Sugar Dad, were you exclusive, or did you fuck around on the side????????????

r180 - I would take care of you no problem! You are hot as fuck.

R186 want to chat offline? Lol

r187 maybe after this whole covid 19 blows over :) Plus do you live in NYC?

R187 I do live in NYC.

r189 well I am in LALA land :(.

hey r189 looks like Andy Cohen is in need of some help - you should reach out!

Collin, you need to think outside the box and use what the good Lord gave you.

I know a personal trainer who visits men to put them through a regularly scheduled at-home workout. Afterward, he strips down and poses naked for them. He says the men work out eagerly because they want to get their reward. I don't know what else goes on with the nude posing, but the guy is very professional in demeanor. He has all the fitness training accreditations he needs. He has a waiting list for new clients.

He laughs because the majority of the older clients want him to keep his bush natural, so to please them he doesn't modify it. Beyond anyone else I know, he could get the sugar daddy of his choice if he wanted to.

Maybe he actually wants more than that?

Nice pics OP/Collins, and l hope you find what you are seeking. In the meantime as a friendly suggestion, work on avoiding run-on sentences and improve your grammar.

Your life is a train wreck. Please get the fuck outta here.

Does baggage=anal prolapse?

People make one big mistake: They think by just moving on (physically and / or mentally) they leave all their baggage behind, but it remains with them. Fakers attract drama (being found out as fake sooner or later and also it takes a lot of energy to be fake which is not sustainable for long).

Sort your mess. End one chapter, so you can start a new one fresh. As in a fresh start. With a fresh start, and a clear head, new opportunities will present itself.

I also want to become a sugar Baby!

Nobody likes German sausage, GGG.

Update: I am studying history at the University of Houston online and studying for my real estate license.

OP, you are 30. Too old.

If you have a big dick you may be able to find an elder bottom who will take you in, but be prepared to earn your keep.

R201 why are you being mean? Some of these guys I am talking to (55-65) do not care about my age or past.

R202 Because you are a whore you is manipulating rich old men.

Good luck OP.

[quote] [R201] why are you being mean? Some of these guys I am talking to (55-65) do not care about my age or past.

Exactly, cock, and especially quality cock, is eternal.

is this fag fiction?

Two years of work and this is all you've got to show us?

Get a job and learn to support yourself. Time to grow up and stop being useless. You have value.

R207 I was stationed in Afghanistan for four years, did some modeling, and now getting my history degree online at the University of Houston.

Studying for your real estate license is a good idea--it's a good bet for the handsome and charismatic who are aging out of their sugarbaby stage.

R210 He is definitely past his prime.

Sugar Daddies are willing to pay big bucks for young men. Usually, that means college age. College kids are often desperate for money, so it's a win-win for everyone. But once you can no longer pass for 19-20-21, your ability to make money this way drops considerably.

You are a handsome guy, but you clearly don't look the age that would maximize your efforts. A Sugar Daddy can be 80 years old and look like a prune but he still wants a hot 20 year old. In the gay world, beggars can be choosy. But you already know that from being on DL 🤪

I recommend you find a skill. Even the modeling will dry up as soon as you start losing your hair or get a few miles on your face. (we are in a Hi-Def world now, people can see your age even in photos).

Try to go back to school or learn a trade. You can still do the modeling and escorting (or Only Fans) on the side for as long as people are willing to pay you, but don't wait too long.

Good luck!

[quote] I am a muscular freelance model, and things are a little tight financially,

Sounds like it might be time for a career change...maybe something that you could make a living doing? Especially if you're actually only 29. When the muscle starts to atrophy, and it will, you're going to be one broke, homeless, former sugar baby with an EBT card.

Not the "EBT" card? 😂😂😂

OP do you do meth? Sugar Daddies don’t want hard drugs, they expect stability and predictability. If they want to party with you it’s not gonna last.

R215 No I am not into meth. Why?

Because it’s very common, OP. Didn’t you hear? I knew a lot of sugar babies who went down that road and never recovered.

Too much baggage? Try too much insecurity.

Who is going to play this guy in the Netflix series?

The whole thing sounds like "Pretty Woman".

BTW the comments are why I keep coming here. I don't know why you are so upset by some of the comments. This is pure unadulterated Data Lounge.

At some point a person should stop looking for a Sugar Daddy and decide what they want to with their life. You are at that point. Choose wisely.

I'm not into drugs.

I was enrolled in school at the University of Houston online but ended up having to drop. I couldn't afford to do college and work at the same time.

I was studying for my real estate license too but had to stop and get a job to pay my bills.

Work on your self-esteem, and then get a job and support yourself. You can do it!!

R221 Thanks. I do have self esteem

It's funny how everyone here says sugarbaby instead of what everyone else calls people like the OP:

Gold-digger

R223 I'm not a gold digger. I just like having stability.

OP, if you're keen enough to get a degree you will push yourself to obtain it like so many of us have. Work a part-time job, be frugal etc study hard. You can't go thru life relying on others to help you out. You'll feel proud once you've obtained your degree/certification etc. Good luck.

R225 thanks. I'm just trapped because of my financial situation.

His Instagram is collinrgray

IG link

I was a Golddigger and got me a sugar daddy when I was young and cute, and I'm still here thirty-one years later. But believe you me, I'm paying it back many times over in fact, with this eldergay I have on my hands.

OP is another reason to hate froots.

There’s no way you’re only 29, judging from that pic. Unless you have a condo in your name, you have no understanding of sugar daddy. But good luck with that.

That's a hard 29, but I like it.