Predictions for 2020

HIV vaccine. I said the same thing back in 2009 about this decade, but now I'm certain of it.

On another note, here's a similar thread from 2009. Not much interest back then. And that one prediction by the OP failed to come true. 😄

And here's a similar thread about this from last year I'm reading right now...

We've all got this to look forward to.

r3 Yes, right in the middle of impeachment and Brexit being finalised. It's going to be a BITCH.

I think a controlling interest in a major Hollywood studio will be acquired by a Chinese or South Korean conglomerate. If it’s the former, it’ll be through a Hong Kong or Singaporean subsidiary and will prompt federal review.

Trump will croak.

The “OK boomer” meme will die.

Trump will live-tweet the 2028 Summer Olympics.

^^ Either from the White House or from Rikers, there's nothing in between.

I’m not a Biden fan, but I believe he will win the nomination and just barely will against Trump.

[bold][italic]Prediction for 2020?[/italic][/bold]

The corrupt, corporate, Democratic Party Establishment will implode.

When does the new decade actually begin, though? 2020 or 2021?

Has DL weighed in on this yet?

It begins with 2020. We count the year 1990 as the '90s, not the '80s.

There will be a genuine rebellion against technology in the next ten years. America will continue to decline in influence.

Adults 30-60 are going to start turning away from social media.

Trump will be dead.

Aaron Carter will die in the spring

I predict a female driver only transport company will emerge to compete with Lyft and Uber.

r18, that was supposed to happen years ago. It's be great if they launched finally - more competition, lower prices for everyone.

Trump won't be forced out of office but his presidency will ruin him in just about every way. He is going to feel humiliated the rest of his days. Not because he actually thinks he's wrong but because he knows people the world over think he's a joke. I see a rift with most of his children too in the future including Ivanka. Again not because they think he's garbage but because they know being associated with him makes them look bad in the public eye. They will resent him for making them jokes too.

I see a successful legitimate business venture for Lindsay Lohan.

Peace and prosperity for all loom ahead.

I'm not going to change at all or get rid of any of my vices no matter how hard I try.

bump

Recession.

Recession.

Technology advances that will stun us.

Technology advances that will stun us.

The corrupt, criminal Republican Party will dissolve after Trump loses. They will struggle to rebuild their party for the next decade at least.

Beyonce and Jay Z will divorce

A technology advance that allows us to not double post and edit our DL posts would sure stun me, r28.

The long awaited sequel to Hookers at the Point will finally be released.

Misery for many, and a gaping anus for yours truly. x

The last year white men will dominate the presidential election.

Temperature records will continue being broken every year.

I predict a terrorist attack involving explosions or fire in a major Italian city. I’m thinking late winter of 2020.

The end of Datalounge. Sadly.

r37 oh, now you’re just being mean.

A world war. A bad one. Over climate, water and religion all at once. Nukes will be used.

Demi Lovato is going to relapse for good. She’ll take awhile to die like 5-7 years but expect a complete death of career and lots of messiness.

Muriel will, at long last, relent and give us an Edit Function.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if Barbara Walters died in 2020?

r42 and Hugh Downs!

Biden/Klobuchar 2020. “Pass me that comb!”

War between India and Pakistan over water. China may be involved, if only as an arms supplier and support, probably for Pakistan.

President Joe Biden and VP Pete Buttigieg. Pete will rise to the Presidency upon Biden’s death in office.

Prison for Trump. He will try to flee. I think Russia will turn him down.

Jared and Ivanka will flee to Israel. Israel doesn’t refuse any Jews wishing to immigrate.

Technology will advance, of course. People will connect more via computer, and less in person.

Recession . It will be deep, long, and hard.

China will have a recession and a civil war.

Stock market keeps going up.

Mass protests in the streets in the US and South America.

Venezuela protests will ramp up as people become more desperate. The ones who could flee have fled. Those left behind will take to the streets again. Led by women.

The SA countries who were overwhelmed with Venezuelan migrants will begin protesting in the streets. Things may get ugly. If you are in SA, please be vigilant. Things could erupt at any minute.

There feels like there will be some sort of "wake up call" around the Chinese New year. It feels like something is exposed and people finally realize who is behind brexit and the US chaos.

It's like a light comes on in some people's heads and they realize irreversible shit us about to go down. They become fearful of actual consequences to their actions. They don't want to pay the Piper after dancing because they thought it was all just a joke.

Some of these people seem to just withdraw from everything and try to ignore what they have done. Others lash out and blame. Very few repent. This feels like on a more mass people level than anything.

The jackboots try to grind into our collective necks as they sense they are outnumbered and as more people see and know what's been going down. It's going to be fucking INTENSE, everyone, so prepare yourself.

Take time to hang up and get away. "Self care" is more important than ever in 2020. Take the time every day (even if it's only 5 - 10 minutes) to just sit down and take some deep breaths. Be kind to yourself.

Peace and love in the age of Aquarius!

The death of democracy.

A sequel to Mac & Me?

I've always had a feeling Trump will die in office from natural causes.

While I would certainly crack open the champagne R51, I'm praying that he lives a long, lonely, sad life in prison.

r51 I've always had a feeling a monarch and an armed forces officer conspired to get rid of him. Happily, the Secret Service are unable to visit Colonel Sanders and the Burger King.

Americans, consumed by race baiting and identity politics, will continue to ignore the return of the world to feudalism and the appalling and unending enrichment of the elite.

R54 exactly “disrupting” just means fucking over mom & pop/Main Street. More Amazons and Ubers to make sure Wall Street fat cats skim a mafia type percentage off the toil of the working class. Vote with your Dollars. But unfortunately I believe beyond an apocalyptic event it’s beyond repair.

I had a dream that Pete Buttigieg will be the Democratic nominee and possibly the next President. The dream was full of abstract and personal imagery that I don't have time to detail. But that was the gist of it.

Looking forward to Oracles predictions for 2020.

Erna will return to CA and help put out wildfires.

I agree with r14 and r15. As wages go down and tech corporations keep jacking up their prices the digital divide is going to grow, more parents are going to restrict their childrens' access to the internet, and social media is going to become another declasse thing like smoking and eating junk food.

More massive bushfires and droughts even worse that the ones of the last two years and those that are happening right now. Water shortages in part of Asia and Europe.

The extinction rebellion will increase in size and spread to more countries around the world.

Massive earthquake in California, thousands will perish.

A dirty nuclear bomb will be let off in either Paris or Rome killing tens of thousands and spreading deadly radiation across much of Europe.

Trump will loose the election with Joe Biden winning comfortably.

Margaret Court will be assassinated.

Macron will be beheaded by the French working class and Marine LePenn will become the new leader of France.

[quote] Trump will loose the election

yes, yes, yes! not even gonna “oh dear” that one.

Yes, r18. It is called TWAT -- Transporting Women Around Town.

r37 One day they will find a vaccination for homosexuality and sadly DataLounge will end. It won't be for a while and not until the last millennial DLister has finally kicked the bucket by which time all the old jokes have been long forgotten.

Everything will implode. That's all I see.

Mrs Simpson will never be Queen.

Larger cunt hordes to the DL.

Miss Markle will never be Queen.

There, r65 -- I fixed it for you.

ORACLE PLEASE? ORACLE'S PREDICTION COME! I AFFI IT!

ORACLE PLEASE? ORACLE'S PREDICTION COME! I AFFI IT!

Hoping the conjunction on the 12th will help shift the current negative vibe in this country

I love you and your predictions, oracle, but I hope you’re wrong at r37. 😢

R71 anyone can pretend to be Oracle. Watch.

I am Oracle. See? So that may not be Oracle. Because I am not Oracle.

But that was an authenticated 'oracle' signature, r72

damn r62, i was just going to joke that r18’s service will only cost 75% of the price of its competitors because all the staff are female, but you took it to another level!

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Believe it or not, in one of the prediction threads around the 2012 Maya calendar panic, I made a prediction that Datalounge would bite the dust after 10 years from that date, meaning early 2020s. I'm just covering my bases bitches...just in case.

As I said in 2016, many of the outcomes of what happened in 2016/have been happening do no fully conclude right away. It takes years. Getting Trump out of office is not the victory; it's just one battle of many we will be fighting in the coming years. Think of the 2020s as a decade of Transformation. Transformation doesn't occur without some growing pains.

Limit your time in large group gatherings. By all means, do go out and protest if you have to, but beware of the wolves because they'll be out for carnage. There will always be crazies, but eventually the MAGAS will go the way of the dinosaur. I certainly see "that" movement in the past by late 2025.

The thing is that 2020 is like being in the Hanged Man position. Yes ,a lot is sacrificed *cought* Trump *cough* in order to achieve enlightenment, but the Hanged man is not a stage where big changes happen. It's a card of looking for a solution by remaining still. Meditating on the problems. This is an election year, so the big changes we want to see in our government do not happen until a new administration and congress come in in 2021.

This post covers more than 2020 because most of the initiatives took place before 2020 and will be resolved after 2020. You have to understand that in 2016 a path was taken and that path will take us to a trajectory that by now cannot be stopped. You are only responsible for saving the present, but the future belongs to the generations that come after you. However, it doesn't mean that you will not be part of the future, because most likely many of you will come back in the future to reap the benefits of the hard work you put in this lifetime. Let me put it this way, it's a karmic positive on your soul if you save democracy/help mother nature and help curve global warming so that there is a "future" for others.

In the mean time, our job is to get rid of Trump and his administration. The nation has to give him up. This year is a time when we are working hard so that we can reap the benefits of our labor in future years to come (the decade ahead). Same with Brexit, the newer generations need to be more involved in politics and take the role of leadership so that later in the decade the UK can become a more united and effective union for all the people that live there. Old ideas will have to come down. Same with Australia, radical changes pushed by newer generations will have to take place in order to save their futures. In their case, global warming is the biggest culprit. Now you see why I kept seeing Australians moving to Western America, just as I saw Canadians and Greeks too. I have mentioned this before, years from now we will have Australian and Canadian governors in the Western United States. Also, remember that I have mentioned that I see politicians speaking French in the Southwestern area. I have no idea what this is about, clearly these are changes of the future. I am not sure if I will be alive to see this. Also, it was not until last year when I saw more Irish people coming to America. Don't know what is that about, I have to put it out there because it keeps coming to me. Going back to Australia, global warming has to be curved in order for that nation to survive. I do think we will curve global warming with newer technologies, but obviously some habitats and living zones are lost. Some Australians will move out.

Yes, in the future the US will be considered a Latin American country, Canada too btw, as most North Americans will have some Latin blood in them. However, the American identity will remain the same. The American culture is unique. Let's put it that way. I have said this before in the future even the African American culture will change. It has everything to do with interracial mixing. You can view this as a cultural loss or just the way the future will take shape. It is not my place to have an opinion. In many ways this will form a new dynamic because I do see racial tension lessening, maybe because communities will become more associated.

In 2020 we see Trump go. If he were to be beaten in the general election, I don't think he would even finish his term to be honest. He would be like "Fuck that! What am I still doing here?" and be gone. If he goes much sooner, even better. The fact is that he is leaving. My preference would be for him to go sooner, but we can survive another 12 months if it comes to that.

Economy: save money. Save. Hold on on making big purchases. Make sure your family is doing the same. It's not the end of the world. If you are prudent with your spending. You'll be set up if a loss of job or quick economic downturn happens. You'll be fine. Our best years as a nation are still ahead. You just have to put the hard work this year.

Thank you oracle I’ve really come to appreciate your posts

In 2020 Physicality is highlighted. The act of doing things.

In many ways, the Hanged Man makes it possible for us to focus in order to do what needs to be done. While the overall energy of the year is stillness, there is action within the Hanged Man. Being suspended upside down from a tree requires and enormous amount of force and equilibrium. It's a sacrifice he is making in order to achieve enlightenment.

If you are wondering why I keep referencing the Hanged Man, it's the card I got for the year 2020. The overall energy of the year.

So as we use all our physical resources in order to oust Trump and Reptilous Republican politicians, we will find ourselves continuously regrouping in order to keep ourselves focused and determined. It will take all of our resources to achieve our goal.

On a more personal level, this is the year to make plans for future endeavors. Research, planing, implementing a routine into your life, being open to a different point of view, and stamina are all highlighted in The Hanged Man.

R75 I introduced a Carbon Tax when I was Prime Minister. Kevin Rudd who was leader before Bill Shorten stabbed him in the back also tried to introduce a Carbon Tax but the Greens were against it. Bob Brown & Christine Milne (the two Greens leaders at the time) even as Australia is burning to a crisp won't admit that they were wrong not to support my efforts to reduce emissions and pollution. Current Greens leader Richard Di Natale (aka the Black Wiggle) and his party are just has bad.

I know I did some terrible, terrible things to the people of Australia during my leadership but the introduction of a tax on carbon was not one of them. I tried. Kevin tried. Tony Abbott and the Greens is to blame for all the shit coming down now.

The only thing I have in common with Tony is we both believe marriage is between a man and a woman.

Laptops will keep getting slower (an average new "mobile" i7 today is actually 10-25% SLOWER than a top-shelf desktop i7 from 5 years ago), with even worse chiclet keyboards, in the holy name of making it another quarter-millimeter thinner.

Phones will continue degenerating into port-free sealed lucite slabs whose glued-in batteries die after 18 months, only last 3-4 hours of active use, and are impossible to use one-handed without false-triggering the touchscreen.

On the bright side, we'll hopefully have VR HMDs that can do (tethered) 3840x2560@300-600hz by 2025. If we're lucky.

Oracle thank you for your insights into the future you give me hope for the future.

If Trump is out of office in 2020 aren't they worried about him selling the country's secrets?

R82 I would imagine the CIA & FBI have them under lock and key and haven't let him near any of them.

The Republicans(the smart ones anyway)have to know Trump is losing his mind right, will any of them try to help get rid of him before he literally shits himself in public?

R83 Any secrets that were in Trumps possession have already been passed onto the Russians in his secret phone calls to Putin.

Can you tell us what Lindsey if afraid of Putin revealing Oracle?

Thank you, Oracle!

R76 trying to scare people. Like bitch please. There is no need for your racism!

That's an interesting post, R48, considering that all the people I know born under that sign are good-hearted but batshit crazy due to lack of boundaries and very little self-discipline.

I'm intrigued by the assertion that Aquarius, a masculine air sign, represents a goddess archetype. If things went to shit under Aquarius last time, due to its function of breaking down structures, what makes us so sure it will be all daffodils and butterflies under it this time? Perhaps Aquarius is ushering in a few dark goddesses with those goodness and light ones...

[quote]If Trump is out of office in 2020 aren't they worried about him selling the country's secrets?

Oh honey, that ship sailed a long time ago. I don't want to scare you, but one of the things Trump accomplished was to sell our intel and the secret way our government bypasses Google, Amazon, credit card firewalls to gather information from Big Tech. He made us into a sitting duck. This is why I keep telling you, be careful of the programs you use (especially if they come from Europe and Asia) we are exposed as it is, don't give them more of your information. Governments across the world have shadow profiles of each US citizen, ready for their use in case you ever become successful, or an enemy... Those hooker whores that keep using apps like Grindr will one day regret ever given their intimacies to a Chinese company.

I do think our consumption of internet content will change. It just becomes very clear the amount of propaganda that we consume on a daily basis.

[quote]Can you tell us what Lindsey if afraid of Putin revealing Oracle?

My reading on Lindsay a few years ago went more in detail about his past. I am sure he has some skeletons Russia could exploit, but most of his stuff could be exploited by anyone. I don't buy Russia is the reason he is such an asshole, mind you there might be a few threats he might have received, but the fucker is mostly a greedy reptilious little troll. He is full of self-hatred and avarice.

There was a chance he could have gotten #metoo by some of the former pages, but I think those people have decided to move on instead. You have to understand these people are a network, created over decades of service, and the foundation of these political networks is corruption and greed. Politics was seen as a business for many, therefore people like Lindsay are tied to their greed.

Mitchy will be a gonner for sure, and I hope Lindsay is gone too. Trump leaving will live these networks exposed because they made enemies out of the government agencies. They should have known better than to go all in. The House (government) never loses. The House always wins. No president, no congressman, and no private citizen is more powerful than government.

R79, thank you for nothing you homophobic bint! You tried and you failed and now Australia is more flaming than it has been since Peter Allen died.

Going against everyone here: I bet that Trump will win re-election. Then within a decade, he will be as adored as George W. Bush is now.

that should read no *single* congressman or private citizen... The collective is clearly the biggest biggest driving force behind a country.

I'm blocking the troll chanting racism. Bitch, don't be projecting your clear issues about race. The racial landscape of America will change and you will have to deal with it. You won't be able to escape to Canada since it will go the same direction.

On a related note, the average American of the future will probably have a good 5/6 identifiable backgrounds to draw upon. They'll be quite beautiful.

People are getting really sick of identity politics and the left’s endless purity tests. The shrieking on Twitter about how male athletes with visible penises are “women, you bigot!” has already begun. Next summer’s Olympics are going to make things worse, and viewers are going to see for themselves just how far things have gone in terms of transgender activism.

[quote]I hate America

and to think America will become more powerful after this...

Omg, Oracle is freaking racist. I can't believe it.

You won't be able to go to Canada? What the fuck is this shit? Are you kidding me? Guess what bitch? I'm from that town where Selena is and it's fucking fine bitch. We don't need more racist like you encouraging Walmart shooters.

Your fucking so called psychic is a racist. Fuck THAT

I FUCKING ALL YOU RACIST ASS PEOPLE AND ALL YOUR FUCKING AND OF RACISM. FUCK THAT!

This bitch is actually saying racial apocalypse will happen. Bitch it will be just fine! El Paso and San Antonio are fine you stupid cunt.

I don't care ban me. This racist troll site sucks anyway.

[quote]The racial landscape of America will change and you will have to deal with it. You won't be able to escape to Canada since it will go the same direction.

r97 How is it racist to point that out? That poster is saying that the US and Canada will get progressively less white, which... is exactly what the demographic trends are showing right now. That's neither good nor bad, it's just what it is.

That I want to"escape." That is racist.

I never grew up in a white majority city! I fucking hate racism. Fuck it all. The fact that you people count race and don't just let people be just a person. You're the destroyers of the world.

[quote]How is it racist to point that out?

Don't ask me. That other poster is the one that got bother by my post.

mmm, male athletes with visible penises.

Oh wow, I had no idea R99 was such a moron. Bitch, the only thing missing from your post is a claim that says "I know black people."

Selena?? lol You went for the easiest stereotype, at least put some effort MAGA boy. The closest you have come to a Latino is probably when you are trying to run them over. Go back to the ignored column.

Moronica @R99, take a pill and a nap.

Oracle's posts must be making some folks mighty uncomfortable for someone to barge into the thread spewing nonsensical charges of racism.

Good for you, Oracle.

I predict this thread will end in tears!

Sorry to see the angry racialist trolls spewing their anti-intellectual crap have show up here now. They've infested the other ongoing threads.

Oracle, forgive me for not remembering but have you addressed a wag the dog scenario, like what began tonight, in previous posts?

I don't think so, I did post about a vision I had a few days ago regarding a projectile of some sort. It seemed to me like a military strike. I wonder if that vision was more about the strike that we did on the Iranians. Apparently the US killed a top Iranian military officer.

Over the Summer I did talk about fearing a hit on an American embassy or military base, but nothing came of it. The Kurd killings is the closest it came to. I'll do a reading on it.

Thank you Oracle!

R80 Betamax will make a comeback.

R108 Sundays Lotto numbers please.

[quote]CNN's @arwaCNN says it best just now: "we are in uncharted territory."

Uncharted territory with ten days to go before that Saturn-Pluto conjunct on the 12th. Just fucking great. 🙄

What is going to happen between Iran and the US ? What is the purpose? What is the outcome?

Celtic Cross

[bold]Matter of the question[/bold] : 6 of Coins

[bold]What is crossing it/Conflict[/bold]: The World

[bold]Past[/bold]: Judgement

[bold]Current Circumstances[/bold]: The Devil

Root/ Internal Feelings: Knight of Swords

Conscious/External Feelings: Queen of Swords

Immediate Future: 10 of Coins

Influences of the Situation: Ace of Coins

Hopes and Fears: The Moon

[bold]Outcome[/bold]: Strength

Above I highlighted the cards that define this situation.

Basically, the outcome will most likely be a resolution (Strength) between Iran and the US. Mostly, because I don't think the world wants a another war (The World in the crossing position).

Regarding Trump: A Judgement in the past, The Devil (ill intentions) in the present, The Knight of Swords (Fight) in internal feelings and the Queen of Swords (the Queen of War) in the Conscious tell me Trump pushed for this in order to get some of the pressure off him from the Impeachment last month (Judgement in the past position). He wants conflict and we could see some hits because of it.

He wants to keep his money and not lose it because of impeachment and the consequences it will have in the family finances. The Moon in the Hopes and Fears position tell me he is realizing that he has no idea where is this likely to take us, but with his intention clearly hinting at conflict (Knight of Swords & Queen of Swords) he wants to flex his muscles.

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Here is the thing, there is a karmic component to this greater than Trump, Iran is due for a shake up. I just don't think the US is ready for another war. I don't think Iran is prepared for a war. I don't think our allies will follow us into another war. We may have to wait until he is gone before we go back to the table and have an agreement.

This could potentially be leverage for Trump though, he could bargain his exit in return of not wrecking the world, or tell congress to forget the impeachment. Sadly, both are just as likely.

However there is something coming with the courts. A judgement or action of some sort that changes everything. I want to say February. This will undercut whatever Trump is cooking up. It almost feels like in March a female is leading. There is a female influence in March that will take us in a different direction. Maybe Trump is no longer around in March (Nancy?) ...I don't know, I just feel like by March things change. Maybe it just means that we get some agreement with Iran and Nancy is behind it.

Video footage will surface of Pope Francis touching up children and being aggressive with them.

Trump will get impeached, and the Democrats will STILL find a way to self-immolate & hand the Republicans a victory in the general election. Biden or Buttigeig gets the nomination, then Bernie runs as an independent & splits the vote enough to hand Pence a popular-vote plurality that gets amplified into electoral-college win by winner-takes-all rules.

It's sad, but the Democrats are just incapable of taking a win & being a happy majority party. Every time they're in danger of becoming a mainstream majority, the loonies come out and turn the party into a freakshow circus that vividly reminds everyone why they normally hold their nose & vote Republican against their own best interests.

R113

R115, yes, bitch. Did Miss Cleo grant you that vision?

r115 is predicting from the past.

On a lighter note, it appears that Richard Madden and Brandon Flynn have spent the holidays apart, with B kissing a female friend on NYE instead of R. Is the bi-continental romance over or is there subterfuge afoot?

R119, wrong thread.

Thank you oracle.You are truly gifted.

I lurve Brandon Flynn *hearts* Tell us more about Brandon and Richard Madden Dreamer. B better not be fucking a woman or he gets cancelled!!!

[quote]Trump will get impeached,

Baby, you are too late and a dollar short. He already got impeached.

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I could be wrong but I just don't see it. Just like North Korea in 2017. We are not going to war. The cards do hint at a greater intention [from Trump] to have some sort of war to get some of the heat off him, so we could see an attack on our embassies or military bases, but I almost feel like world leaders are going to tell him: "Sit your ass down. War is not the answer."

It doesn't lead to war though...when we went after Iraq that one felt different. It felt like it was going to be a war of a generation, which ended up being one of our biggest wars ever.

R116, I am side eyeing you bitch. Miss Cleo was one smart lady. She hustled for that money like no ones business. OK?

My problem was that I didn't know how to hustle. There were some times when I felt so bad for the person I had read for...I would end up charging nothing. Not a good business model. : (

Agreed about the Iran strike, Oracle.

The Iranians will absolutely strike back but it will be in such a way that we can't really do anything about it as there will be no clear line to them.

They are going to hit Israel via proxies. Probably Saudi, too. They will attack our systems by hacking and by causing general havoc in the middle East. It wouldn't surprise me if they brought the grid down in some large city as well.

I wouldn't put it past them to start trouble inside the US as well. Not necessarily setting off bombs but inciting violence, riots and attempting to kidnap Americans overseas.

But no, I don't get war, either. As much as some people want it. The world isn't going to tolerate it - especially from fat Donnie. They know he cannot be trusted after what he did to the Kurds.

It's a tense time but there won't be a world war again.

^^

[quote] It will be deep, long, and hard.

Mmmmmmmmmm.

Can we please retire the quasi-word "racialist" and return to calling each other racists like we used to?

I just worry for the American citizens working in military bases/embassies in that part of the world. But then again, the Iranians are naughty enough to arget a Trump property instead.

As I said in my reading a few posts above, there was a karmic component to this death. I don't feel like Trump was the sole conductor of this event. In my opinion Iran is due for a shake up. We could be seeing the eventual change of Iran's government.

For Trump, this will obviously come back to bite him. With every scandal, it makes the GOP's job tougher. I am more interested in what I saw in the cards for March. I got the Ace of Cups,Hierophant, Justice, Queen of Wands, and Queen of Coins. That is a major female vibe going on there. I almost want to say we are talking about Nancy. As if she were taking the lead of the government. Strange.

r127 A racialist is someone who sees racism in everything and overanalyses statements to an absurd degree, which is what that poster upthread was doing.

r122 The girl BF kissed was a longtime (platonic) friend. I suspect RM and BF are planning an extended period together after the holiday season, but that's just a guess. Why not read on them again and find out? Either that or they were able to fly to each other and cover their tracks, which is so much effort that I'd imagine Brandon would feel like he's back in the closet.

Please Universe, grant us President Pelosi, if even for a few short months!

Pelosi is sort of a defacto President already.

As far as the EU is concerned, anyway. Probably other countries that we're not aware of, too.

She's the one who has been visiting Europe and reassuring our allies that the House is firmly behind NATO.

That fat slob pompeo is too busy grifting and sucking up to terrorists to pay much attention to our allies.

Bunch of goddamned traitors!

Not sure where you got the idea that a "racialist" sees racism everywhere, r129, because the term actually means they are the racist themselves.

"Racialism is the belief that the human species are naturally divided into races, that are ostensibly distinct biological categories. Many dictionaries define the term racialism as synonymous with racism."

"The Oxford English Dictionary says it is equivalent to racist but has been “largely superseded” by that word. (The same goes for the forms racialism and racism.) "

I predict all the screeching about RACISM! TRUMP! and RUSSIAN TROLL! will be the what kills this board as prognosticated up thread.

Major defections from North Korea. Family members possibly, or high officials/diplomatic staff.

I predict a bunch of communication changes in the next 20 years. Unfortunately also a very insecure generation, but one that wants to make changes and improvements. Ultimately, and I was surprised by this, world peace came up. It's like every one is realizing by technology how similar we are and how no one really wants war. Unfortunately the worst of the crap that is social media is here to stay.

Some astrological commentary, now that we're on the 2020 thread.

re upcoming Saturn/pluto conjunction: I wasn't sure what this would bring in terms of current world events, but clearly the Iranian assassination has kicked off a chain of events that could have serious long-ranging impact. There was a separate thread re Trump's astrology and sat/pluto, it is impacting him. I have yet to analyze his chart so won't make comment yet.

There are celebs affected. One to watch is Justin Bieber. I'm not a fan, but saw his chart is walloped by this conj. and I think he's been struggling lately (drugs, depression). He has an unusual asc-pluto-n node grouping at critical 29 Scorpio too, which is tough to live with.

Someone asked re Brad Pitt in the last thread. His natal moon-venus are taking a direct hit here, I wonder if there's more trouble with his ex in store or with the ongoing push-pull over the kids. It could also be manifested in a current public wave of attention, as he's slotted to win an Oscar next month.

re Pitt & Aniston, making news again as they re-new friendship: they are deeply karmically tied, at least their charts show this. More tied imo than he is with Jolie. Unfinished business over this lifetime. Not necessarily predicting a romantic reunion, as they ship may have sailed. More likely a strong friendly or ongoing working bond, they will always be in each others personal orbit in this life.

Don't forget about the lunar eclipse on January 10/11th depending where you live.

Trump's weakened Saturn in Cancer, shown in his twisted version of authority (I always think of his stupid salutes to actual officers), is exactly opposed to the Pluto/Saturn conjunction. His Venus is pulled into this set-up. Will a woman close to him bring him low with an act of betrayal? This is what I see.

I have been waiting for this set-up to activate since he was elected. And now the time has come.

The end of human civilization.

I predict that almost all of this will not happen. I also predict that if anything predicted here does happen, it’s a coincidence.

Now, not a prediction, but an observation: relying on anything in order to “analyze” future events is questionable, at best, and somewhat tragic, at worst.

Putting this kind of energy into something like this is a HUGE waste of time.

Imagine all of the things our DL Astro May have accomplished, had they not spent YEARS, learning how to interpret the world in a manner that is complete bullshit?

Sorry, DL Astro, but here it is: you have spent your entire life, pursuing something that has given you nothing back, nor has it given anyone else anything either. And obviously, I’m not talking about money.

Reality bites, but it still beats bullshit.

Now-Fire away, or don’t.

R138 is a Mayan.

It feels like the next two weeks will bring a lot of not so good information into the light and the vibe will be chaotic

not so good info for who? those for Trump or those against?

The vibe is already chaotic. How much worse can it get?

It can always get worse.

Steve Judd also mentions the 29 degrees R136

Unemployment will increasingly become the norm as automation takes over.

[quote]Imagine all of the things our DL Astro May have accomplished, had they not spent YEARS, learning how to interpret the world in a manner that is complete bullshit?

??? Silly git what are you on about. Imagine all the things I would have accomplished? I have two masters degrees and a thriving career, thank you for your concern. Doing very well thanks. Engaging in astrology as a hobby/interest hasn't hurt me in the least. Are you usually this weird on message boards with people you don't know?

I learned 85% of what I know re astrology in about a year of self-study. It's not a difficult topic, the basics are easy for anyone to pick up. What's with the YEARS bullshit.

I've actually made decent money doing readings, for those who ask for them back when I charged. It made plenty of those people happy. It's done much for me, at least as a side line and interesting hobby.

This new thread is attracting weirdos for some reason. The last two threads were fairly standard. Sat-pluto brings out the weirdos, that's MY prediction.

r145 he does mention it, and said it has less impact in natal charts than in mudane (he's a mundane guy, seems mostly into worldview astrology as opposed to personal). I disagree, 29 of scorpio is a difficult point in any natal chart most esp at the ascendant, which is where Bieber has it.

That's why I mentioned it, coupled with the Saturn-pluto aspect being experienced he (Bieber) is likely feeling a shitstorm right now.

r147 you don't need to explain yourself to anybody. There have been some really nasty people on here lately. But since everyone has their own story and I don't know what theirs is I just ignore them and move on.

Last night before bed, I asked what was going to turn the tide in Australia's fire fight, and got the cryptic message 'blue lightning'. No clue, but putting it out there anyway.

Thank you R148, I dont know if it was you, but in the 2019 threads I was asking about my Saturn retrograde in the 12th house. I received a nice answer,as did Oracle. I am learning astrology currently, do you have any books to recommend?

R150 Walter, a report out of Australia tonight said that the immense heat of the fire was causing thunderbolts. Maybe the lightning will in some way cause rain to fall.

The video taken from a moving car of the thousands of dead kangaroos, koalas, and wombats is something I will never forget. It is so heartbreaking.

They say that a billion animals have been killed by the bushfires.

I prayed for rain last night to put out the over 300 hundred bushfires that are raging.

... and all the dead sheep too.

Funny how all of a sudden Iran seems to be in unity when just a few weeks ago it seemed like a revolt was inevitable. It's like the Iranian government couldn't have asked for a better outcome. They might have avoided a serious problem at home, and they might even get Iraq to kick the US out of the region.

As for the US, we were never meant to be there in the first place. We entered into Iraq under false pretenses. It was never going to end well. The money that was spent on Iraq could've greatly served us at home.

It may look like Iran, Russia, and the like are winning for a hot second, but those countries are also heading to a reckoning. It's Karmic fate.

What I want to know is if the corrupt billionaires that are running our government will ever pay for the horrors they've caused in the name of money?

Link: JUST IN: Julián Castro endorses Elizabeth Warren

So somewhere in the 2019 threads, I said that this would be the Democratic ticket; Warren/Castro. I wonder if this is the first step. We'll know later this Summer.

Trump will be removed from office.

Putin is behind this Iran attack.

You don't need to be a psychic or card reader to see that.

Thanks Q-F/r151. I used to respond occasionally on the prior threads. Re. starter books: there are several old school astrologers who are always go-tos: Liz Greene (excellent book on Saturn), Stephen Arroyo. Go into your local bookstore (if there are any still around) and find the astrology section, there will always be some good beginner books there. The specialty shops are where you find the more advanced texts.

Jeffrey Wolf Green has videos on youtube, he's an expert on evolutionary Pluto and karmic astrology.

The best primers imo are the old standbys: Robert Hand's classic Planets in Aspect and Planets in Houses (two separate books). Any beginner will come away with a good understanding of basic principles.

Can someone help me find the thread where someone did personal readings based on a question that was asked? I remember it from last year and did a search, but nothing came up.

Muriel won't let me post the link for some reason, R160, but I think the thread you're referring to was called Tarot readers of DL and then Tarot readers of DL Carte II.

Thank you R161. Much appreciation.

Five days until the conjunction. 😨🙏

From what I am reading, it sounds like nothing definitely earth shattering will happen exactly on the 12th, correct?

DL-Astro, how does the month of March look to you? In an earlier reading I got a very different vibe from Jan/Feb. It was like night and day. It almost feels like the leadership changes. Hmmm

[quote]Why not read on them again and find out?

R130, I don't think they appreciate that I was reading on them. All I heard was "no access, please" the last time I tried to sneak a peak. Listen, the closes thing I came to intruding their space was when I saw Brandon getting porked by some guy in what looked like a smelly room in Florida/California.

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Well, I for one feel like this will be a time for planning. Get your businesses in order people. If you have followed my readings over the years, I have urged you to save some money for this time. If you're prepared, your wallet won't feel a pinch. I feel bad for the random deplorable that thought Trump would make them kings. Ha!

Cheryl will finally mow her bush and will find fleas and other ‘new’ never before seen insects, all in her crotch. She will make history for all the wrong reasons.

Sticking with Trump and his crime family/syndicate trying to stay out of prison, though we'll only see the signs of their impending doom in 2020. The orange shit won't really hit the fan until 2021.

What about this fresh bullshit Hell the rethugs are pulling with invalidating the impeachment articles if not sent over in twenty-five days and hold a simple yea or nay vote? Goddamn them!🤬

R168 why is Nancy holding onto them? I don’t understand.

Nancy is clearly waiting for something to drop. She must know something we don't.

What Oracle said. To be clear, I fully support Madame Speaker in all her actions. My grandmother always said, "Republicans are all crooked bastards! You can't trust them!"

Turtle is bluffing. Trying to pacify the orange shitstain.

How can you hold a trial without an indictment?

Once they "exonerate" the turd, she can just drop the articles. Turtle is on precarious footing here. Maybe this sham "trial" is exactly what is needed to bring him crashing down in flames.

Oracle do you see something happening to the Seattle Space Needle?

I was having a hard time sleeping last night. So while I was trying to sleep I decided to ask how Trump leaves office.

I got an image of him surrounded by military men. At first it looked like they were there to support him, but the very next image I got was of them marching him out. His hands were in handcuffs behind his back and he kept looking back as if to signal hat his Presidency was behind him now.

I'm not a psychic so it could just be wishful thinking.

I have never seen him being removed that way, it has always been a negotiated departure

Could be negotiated by military input as well, you never know.

Maybe some senior military officials go to Mike Pence and say, if you don’t 25th Amendment him we’re all going to resign, and go on TV saying we think he’s nuts. If they did, it would just be piling on to what somebody else is doing.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin demands he resign either, so he can get behind another Russian asset early on in the election cycle.

I would think whatever happens, a big part of it would be behind the scenes. Republicans hate admitting they’re ever wrong.

To take a tiny break from WWIII, does anyone see a resolution of the Zodiac case? There have been so many cold cases solved and John and Jane Does identified in the last 2 years I wonder if we will see a breakthrough in 2020. Thanks.

The person elected to be POTUS will die in office.

^^Bernie or Biden. No surprise there.

Good question, r177!

Where is our pendulum reader?

They may be able to get an answer for that, r177.

Great question!

After a tragic accident wipes out the royal family the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will assume the throne.

Tsk...Tsk

The copy is never as good as the original R182.

Ump will do many more things to duck up our country. He will remain an arrogant fool, until he dies.

Wait a minute. Hold the phone! Is the real Julia Gillard posting on DL?

[quote]DL-Astro, how does the month of March look to you? In an earlier reading I got a very different vibe from Jan/Feb. It was like night and day. It almost feels like the leadership changes. Hmmm

March will be interesting, active. Pluto will still be around making waves- saturn will have moved on, but jupiter and mars up the ante instead. Mars joins pluto around the 23rd, and jupiter conjuncts about a week later. Feelings are of increased energy and drive, high goals and the dynamic energy and focus to reach them. 'Energy' is the word.

Basically whatever the sat-pluto wreaks or begins this month, jup-mars will help move along toward completion.

Barbara Walters will die in 2020. It was always meant to happen.

Barbara Walters will die in 2020. It was always meant to happen.

Want to do a post re the British royals and whats going on right now. The saturn-pluto conjunction is hitting Queen Elizabeth HARD, in a major way, joining up smack on her ascendant *and* her karmic south node. The fallout from the news today, re Prince Harry and his wife leaving for America, is unfinished and will intensify over the weekend & over next week. Fated happenings, they need to hang on for a bumpy ride.

Pluto was sitting hard on her asc the week that Prince Andrew's scandal crested, and he had to leave public life. That was an appetizer for 2020. There will be four eclipses in cancer-capricorn (opposing signs) heavily affecting the family. The solar eclipse in june, at the solstice, hits Prince Williams sun-moon directly, echoing the identical eclipse he was born under in 1982. A lunar eclipse two wks later at 13 cap affects his north node, QE's pluto (her midheaven ruler), Prince Philips mercury-desc combo and Harry's descendent. Look for defining key and fated events to continue to this summer.

And there's is a lunar eclipse this weekend at 20 cancer that will oppose saturn-pluto, affecting QE's north node (karma, again); Prince Edward's midheaven, and Duchess Kate's node-moon-sun opposition, squaring her natal saturn while at same time transiting sat crosses her natal sun. Stress, stress, stress behind scenes. Not pretty, all that glitters certainly isn't gold.

Three days away from the conjunction and it's all falling apart...

Does this conjunction mean I should go buy a lotto ticket?

🤔🤔

No, Rose, it means everything is going to shit.

Actually, we all should. It doesn't have to be a bad omen to us. Quite the contrary, this is a great time reprogram your focus. IF the energies are peaking, use them to your advantage.

I for one will be lighting a candle and asking for some money and some good cock.

Thank you, oracle.

I also bought myself a little Michael The Archangel statue and a battery powered candle with his image. A veladora is what it’s called. Also got a little medallion with his image on it, based on your information that He was close by.

We can use all the help we can get right now.

I would like for people to wake up about Republicans and Trump and their connection to Putin but they will not in my lifetime. Yes it makes me sad that people believe the criminal liars.

An idea for mo' money: predictit.org If yall are confident in your abilities, it's one of the few betting markets that accepts US customers.

[quote]I would like for people to wake up about Republicans and Trump and their connection to Putin

This is the perfect time to ask for a miracle!

[quote]I also bought myself a little Michael The Archangel statue and a battery powered candle with his image. A veladora is what it’s called. Also got a little medallion with his image on it, based on your information that He was close by.

Excellent. The energy is ripe for the taking. Why waste it in fear when we can turn it around and use it to our advantage?

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I meditated on what it all means to us and I got a lighting striking the soil. The lighting made a few cracks on the ground and from those cracks tiny specks of light came out. It looked like fireflies roaming around. It was quite beautiful and I took it as energy abound.

Don't call upon the energy to do you bad. Use it as energy that will benefit you, scoop it right up.

Just a reminder that the caged children at our southern border need some love from Saint Michael!

Ask him to watch over and comfort them. Poor, forgotten things!

This Friday January 10th, is the beginning of Trump's No Good Horrible Terrible Very Bad year.

By June 2020, there will be strong efforts to push him out. He will become aware he is without support from those he assumed were with him. By the end of the summer he may be forced to leave. By this time next year he will be embroiled in a divorce from Melania.

Hey DL seers What are your thoughts on this other DL astrology thread

as much as I follow predictions and as much as I believe in them have you noticed the predictions about Trump being gone? First it was the beginning of his 2nd year, then the middle, then the end and then we went thru the same thing in his third year and we seem to be starting this cycle again. I want to know what has him in their grips that they keep getting him off and makes it look like he is the golden boy.....maybe I don't want to know.......but I sure hope this is ending soon. I know most of us can't take much more of this crap.

[quote] Republicans are all crooked bastards! You can't trust them!

I agree wholeheartedly.

From the Entertainment World: Barbra Streisand will do another Farewell tour and accept a small role in a film which will bring her a Best Supporting Actress Oscar nom.

Another military conflict, another passenger plane shot down by our enemies we're told.

R201 Ditto. What is helping Trump manifest his will that flies in the face of natural laws? And what happened to the “Trump is out by Feb/March at the latest“ prediction?

R201 Ditto. What is helping Trump manifest his will that flies in the face of natural laws? And what happened to the “Trump is out by Feb/March at the latest“ prediction?

I’d also like to know why growth can only supposedly be through extreme pain, chaos, and suffering. According to many spiritualists, Trump is supposedly in power to help us all wake up and stop being a*holes to each other and “get to the next spiritual level” but why couldn’t a “good” president do that through uniting people and spreading positive messages of love and then pushing legislation and initiatives that reflect that message of caring (I.e. leading by EXAMPLE). It seems unnecessarily punitive that growth can only be from evil or dark entities trying to take away what’s good in the world.

Hopefully there won't be an Iran by this time next year.

r208? Go fuck yourself. Then go to your church.

Fuck you, R209. I go to a synagogue and you should, too.

Does your temple support your bloodlust and desire for genocide?

Yours obviously does, R211. We only attack those who attack us first.

Pelosi is going to hold those articles until late January or early February.

She's waiting for two more "scandals" to drop.

Pelosi's botox is about to start wearing off. Watch for some really weird still shots of her in the press.

Does anyone see any medical breakthroughs happening soon?

[quote] Not being Jewish is an attack on God

Oy vey!

[quote]Oy vey!

Faith and begorrah!

It feels like everything is ratcheting up, seers do you think it was iran or the russians that blew up the ukranian jet?

Is the shit hitting the fan tomorrow for the lunar eclipse or sunday for the saturn pluto conjunction?

Thx!!

All this talk of conjunctivitis has me anxious!

[quote]Ditto. What is helping Trump manifest his will that flies in the face of natural laws?

Republicans Rose. What else?

Let's put our cocks on the table and talk like real men. At least 60 million shitty Americans voted for him. Forget about Trump for a second, 60 million people is a lot to overcome.

He should have been gone in November 2017, but he didn't because Americans didn't get their act together. We have [bold]free will[/bold], and even though he could have gone in his first year. Shitty Americans were not ready to let go of the president.

I am going to repeat what I said in one of my earlier readings about president trump (post-election), sometimes the rest of us are collateral damage. And while we are in a better position than we were in 2017, we are still stuck in the same place because shitty Americans are still not ready to let go of the president.

It defies logic the stupidity and hatred roaming in America today. It hurts to say it but it is true. Our saving grace is that a generational change is taking place at the same time. You may think it's unfair, but this is the reality in our time. And to be honest, 3 years is nothing in the grand scheme of things. If Trump does go in 2020, we would have pulled out a miracle.

Oracle spends 2 paragraphs talking about how shitty 60 million people are, decries “hatred” in his 3rd in r220.

Correct R221.

And there is no lie in my post. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here talking about Trump.

OP Nosferatu ? Don't you mean Nostradamus ?

No. Nosferatu predicts the future on the DL.

Nostradamus is fake news

No fuck you R208

Is Mitch McConnell protected by the Devil?

Mitch is protected by Saint Dingleberry

R226 , yes.

R228 So can anything stop him?

Nancy is sending over the articles next week, conference on Tuesday.

We're two days away from the conjunction.

I thought everyone was saying it was today, or am I thinking of something else?

Just in case, I put a candle to Archangel Michael asking him to please let Trump have a moment of sanity so he can realize that it's better for him to go.

Go to the light Donald...just go.

Yes, Donald. To the light. Permanently. .

He doesn't have the cognitive capacity to recognise SHIT anymore.

[quote]Queerbo-Faggins (Iranian Jew)

Wow. I never got the impression you were Persian. HOT !

[quote]So can anything stop him?

The voters of Kentucky ??

For him I have always seen it as a loss of power so this happens in the aftermath of Trump's downfall. Deep down he must know this is his last sting at the rodeo.

[quote]It feels like everything is ratcheting up, seers do you think it was iran or the russians that blew up the ukranian jet?

Both

[quote]Pelosi is going to hold those articles until late January or early February. She's waiting for two more "scandals" to drop.

She already got what she needs. Last year I said she was waiting on something from the Epstein and Douchebank cases. The scandals could drop whenever but she already got what she needs. BTW, the Dems are the ones leaking stuff...I mean, we get that right?

[quote]I’d also like to know why growth can only supposedly be through extreme pain, chaos, and suffering.

because it traumatizes you?

I don't buy that only traumatic events teach you lessons though. This is why I said earlier that we shouldn't be asking the energy to do us wrong by expecting a bad thing to happen during the Pluto thingie. Fuck that! I didn't vote for Orange Shittler . That karmic energy is not on me. Instead, I am going to focus on using whatever energy is out there to get me something I want: cash, creative energy to finish my Oracle deck, and a hot fucktoy for my manly needs.

[quote]He doesn't have the cognitive capacity to recognise SHIT anymore.

Well, then Archangel Michael needs to make the extra effort. Michael get to work !!!!

[quote] March will be interesting, active. Pluto will still be around making waves- saturn will have moved on, but jupiter and mars up the ante instead. Mars joins pluto around the 23rd, and jupiter conjuncts about a week later. Feelings are of increased energy and drive, high goals and the dynamic energy and focus to reach them. 'Energy' is the word. Basically whatever the sat-pluto wreaks or begins this month, jup-mars will help move along toward completion.

DL-Astro, can a change of leadership happen under the March energies? What I mean is based on what you see in the energies surrounding the month of March. Is there anything in those energies that could hint at an exit or change of leadership?

r229 if you believe in the devil then you have to believe in God and God is far more powerful than the devil.

I'm not sure Sanders will make it to November. In the last year he needed seven stitches from falling in the shower, had a heart attack, lost his voice, and fell victim to a punching bag. What happens when he wins the primary and has a heart attack two weeks before the election?

My archangel Michael medals came today In the mail, passing to all my loved ones tomorrow.

R237, that’s why his VP will be almost as important as he is.

Yes, let's think about the health of Bernie's VP pick in case he croaks in office while we have several other candidates in excellent physical condition just lying around. Jesus fucking Christ, he is being Mao-Zedong'd like nobody's business. 😩

LOL I asked Alexa when President Trump was going to resign and she said she didn't have a crystal ball. lol

So is something going to happen/be revealed now, or after the 12th? So confusing

To be more clear, I don't see us, the public, knowing what.is happening in the halls of power. But I believe that as we speak power is being transferred from Trump to other people. I believe that in his private world he is becoming more aware of his loss of power. Whether this will make him a better person I very much doubt based on past behavior. Many "normal" people eventually come to terms with their personal pain and change themselves. That is the benefit of having a working conscience. But with Trump and his ilk I see emptiness; no pain but no spiritual gain either. It's anybody's guess as to whether he will suffer or simply continue to excuse himself.

As a former hospice worker I believe that how we live makes our deaths better or worse. I don't want my last moments or months to be a form of torture. Being kind to people and animals is a great kindness to ourselves. Anyone can change themselves at any moment and begin to be kind. Even someone like Donald Trump. But you see, I think he has been cursed with the inability to see how that works. Whatever suffering comes to him now he richly deserves.

That I were a seer to see oracle/r235. I wish I had such insight or better reading ability, alas I'm not very good at mundane astrology or being specifically predictive as some are. I would say the upcoming energies, being as they play off Pluto - an outer planet that affects the collective rather than the personal - have the potential to be highly transformative on a high level.

Don't specifically see anything that points to an exit, but the forces that will likely move Trump - or other Capricornian leaders - into a new way or era, with or without their control, are def in play over the coming months. Mars-jup is especially energetic and lively for better or worse. Combined with pluto, they can be hugely transforming.

Did a quick check of the US chart. There are two upcoming lunar eclipses that hit it: one in early July opp the US sun in its 8th house (mutual/shared values & assets) and in late Nov at 8 Gemini on the descendant - legal proceedings, judgments, fairness. The 7th is house of open enemies, as opposed to the 12th which is hidden. There is more coming in all this...I wonder how the aftermath of the election will play out.

want to clarify that Sat-pluto doesn't have to be all darkness & fear. Both planets get bad reps. Saturn is structure and limits, pluto about explosive transformation & power, but they can be positive for anyone with the right energy.

A cousin of mine got engaged over the holidays. We're thrilled, she's a great person as is her mate. Been together forever, finally making the big step after long consideration. Sat-pluto sitting on her natal moon in the 5th this week, trining her mars.

Took a look thru charts of the well known: Cameron Diaz has this combo directly hitting her desc, opp her natal venus in cancer, exactly trining her moon. Divorce in the cards, bad marriage? nope, she makes news for adopting her 1st baby in her mid 40s. Happy times, good karma coming to fruition.

If Trump isn't gone by the upcoming election and pulls out a win, I would be happy if the Democrats won the majority in the Senate and held on to the majority in the House. Mitch McConnell in the minority would be delightful and Trump and his syncopaths would basically be powerless.

[quote]Trump and his syncopaths

His, uh, what now?

I remember there was a time when I thought both Biden and Bernie would be early casualties in the primaries. Actually, I thought One of the wouldn’t even make it to February!

The sky was so blue that day...

Uranus (in Taurus) went direct yesterday. You know when it went retrograde last year? August 12th, the day the whistleblower filed their complaint, which eventually triggered the impeachment inquiry. We're less than 24 hours away from the Saturn-Pluto conjunction.

The stage is set for the impeachment trial.

r248 A former VP and the guy who ran against Hillary in 2016 and won the early state of NH with 60% of the vote would never have been early casualties in this primary cycle. You don't need a crystal ball to see that...

R250, hope is the last thing that goes. Pazuzu demands one of them gets knocked down at the starting gate! Damn it Bernie! Let Warren get her chance at Biden.

R249, I wish I had the discipline to learn Astrology. I have noticed that people that combine Astrology with intuition usually have the most precise readings. In many ways it’s so timely that the Senate trial is arriving during the Pluto-Saturn conjunction. It couldn’t have been written better. We might be witnessing Karma take place.

DL- Astro, that is what I was thinking the other day. Energy is supposed to be neutral. We shouldn’t be afraid of the conjunction, only be prepared. It doesn’t have to be a negative experience. At least not to all of us.

St. Michael is a warrior who battled the devil. He is also a healer. He's the patron saint of police officers.

I believe that St. Michael will be alongside the officers who arrest Trump (or at least escort him out of the WH). Then, St. Michael will help heal the nation and world from the devastation caused by Trump and his Swamp Creatures.

The photos of all the animals in distress in Australia is heart breaking I hope Archangel Michael is watching over all the souls who need help

At some point I'll try to do a review of Trump's chart and how current transits are affecting. I know a lot of posters want insight into political events. Honestly I find him & his crap so exhausting, exasperating it hurts to look at his horoscope. Too depressing.

Want to follow up on the "royal summit" tomorrow in the UK. The chart drawn for 2 pm local time (Norfolk) has a packed 8th house (inheritances, shared resources, other people's $), with sat-pluto -and- sun all conjunct. Mercury is just past them a degree (conjunct yesterday). 28 Gem rising locally, the reverse of Prince William's natal asc/desc axis interestingly. The moon is at critical 29 deg leo opp venus at 29 aquarius.

Someone mentioned newly direct uranus in Taurus: sitting on prince Charles moon/north node, the queen's sun, and William's 4th cusp. Changes afoot, they can't stop it.

Looked at prince harry's chart. I missed this initially: tomorrow's big conjunction creates a perfect grand trine w/his sun & moon in earth signs. It's so tight I was shocked, how'd I miss that. Implies easy energy available to him, transformation of himself & his image, career (sat rules his asc, pluto his MH) - if he's going to make a clean break, tomorrow would be the time lol. But all that earth he has...implies duty, innate sense of responsibility, not easily shirking family ties or running off. this will all be very interesting, how it plays. Soapy drama.

The transiting moon-venus opposition at 29 degrees also squares his nodal axis exactly. Karma at play.

Sorry oracle, others, but no JLo nomination this morning - but Kathy Bates did get a nomination. I wonder if my prediction was edging her out of the nomination and not the win?

Sitting here working, and all of a sudden I got a flash of tonight's Democratic Debate in chaos. Not mudslinging chaos, but something bigger that disrupts the stage.

Oh god, R256, I hope neither Biden nor Sanders doesn't become ill and keel over. That would really be awful.

I’ll have to tune in now r256

Maybe the stage isn't built properly and they will all come tumblin down...

Tracy Turnblad better not show up!

[quote]I hope neither Biden nor Sanders doesn't become ill and keel over. That would really be awful.

So you want them to keel over?

There is a Democratic debate tonight? Damn. By now they are all overexposed. Totally skipping this one.

Please forgive me for the little moment of weakness I had the other day. If you guys remember my 6 part energy reading from last year, I was told this was an open field, meaning no candidate was destined to become president. They were making it happen on their own/in real time. In other words, there was no divine intervention. No angels or guides clearing the path for anyone. The person that was supposed to become the president didn't and it threw everything up in the air. While I do believe many of these events were likely to happen no matter what, the mechanics of how they came to be were not. These have been a set of stolen elections (emphasis on plural), and those who participated in creating these outcomes have accumulated a gigantic karmic debt.

It is true that Bernie Sanders could become president of the US, I mean if it's indeed an open field, he has as much chance as anyone of the top four.

BUT...unlike others candidates in the field, I have actually read on him with much ease. His energy is quite accessible which is good on a soul level because it tells me his convictions are true to him. He feels no need to hide them nor does he think he needs to apologize for any of them or any actions he has taken in the past in order to accomplish his ideals. Like you are never getting this man to apologize for what he did to Hillary in 2016. He tells me "the means justify the ends." As I have said in the past, he knew early on that Russia was using his campaign to weaken the Clinton campaign. I don't think he sat down an plotted with the Russians, but he was aware of it and allowed his campaign advisors to run amok because it was benefiting his agenda and let's be honest his ego. One of the reasons why I have been hesitant to predict him for president is because a lot of what comes out of his mouth is on automatic. He says them because they are his long life causes. He doesn't need to feel them in his heart. He just needs to repeat what he has said before. At this moment in his life his actions are more driven by the ego less by the ideal.

While he enjoys a large following, his energy is actually less compatible with the collective because his actions are more driven by the ego. He is also underhanded which is going to be less tolerated by the collective once the Trump administration collapses in a spectacular fashion. If you guys remember older readings about Bernie, in more than one occasion I saw him being told to retire.

Now, some one here said they could see a death in the White House. I mean that could be a possibility seeing that three of the top candidates (Trump, Biden, and Sanders) are nearing their 80s and have legitimate health concerns. Another reason not to vote for any of them.

Given the field I think Warren is positioning herself to be the best option. I don't think she is favored in the polls at this time, but energetically speaking she feels the most compatible with what would be needed in the future (post Trump).

In one of my first 2017 predictions I said 5 could enter the primaries but I only saw three top candidates entering the Dem primaries. I am actually shocked we have a top 4. Pete is a revelation to me. His ambition and drive are quite breathtaking. He could move mountains.

Thank you, Oracle! Do you ever get a feeling that there will be a brokered convention for the Dems?

Pete's energy is somewhat mysterious to me because he is quite closed psychically, and I feel this is in part due to PTSD. Shame (the closet) really did a number on him, but I almost feel like he watched a loved one die in a traumatic event. I wonder if he lost a lover during his time in Afghanistan or something. I almost get that feeling. I've gotten pieces of him here and there. He does have crushes in a lot of men. In that regard he's like a teenage boy. Jerking off in secret in the shower while thinking of his latest crush.

I do think he is quite idealist, in that regard he is the purest of all the candidates. I am not sure if he really feels everything he says given his life experiences, but I do not question his empathy or ability to love others. He would be a humane president, even more so than Warren and Steyer which are the other two who have a similar vibe. I just don't know if we could afford to have another Obama who compromises a lot. This next president has to be a lot tougher with Republicans and needs to have a 6th sense in international politics. I am inclined to say that for Warren would be the best candidate for domestic politics, and Biden for international politics. The problem is that Biden feels weak to me, so the Vice President needs to be someone with some experience if Biden becomes president.

Clearly Pete would be a good VP choice for someone like Warren. Funny enough, I really don't think a mixed ticket (Rep./Dem) is out of the question. I think Biden was truthful when he threw that in the air. I got the same feeling with Republican candidate Bill Weld (is he still running? ) that he would be open to a VP like Pete Buttigieg or Amy Klobuchar. I think Biden would be open to someone like Justin Amash.

Oracle, Pete’s dad died in January 2019. The anniversary of his death is coming up. I think he died of cancer. Pete may have been there. He thought a lot of his dad. Don’t know if that could be what you’re getting.

If Biden got a Republican VP, he would be assassinated and a Republican would be President.

That's a beautiful and hopeful reading of Pete R264, oracle. You made me love him even more.

[quote]Sorry oracle, others, but no JLo nomination this morning

Poor J-Lo. Can't help it. I have a soft spot for her. I remember your reading quite well. I bet it was Bate who kicked J-Lo out of the line-up. I think you predicted that a Kathleen or Katherine for the win (??).

[quote]Sitting here working, and all of a sudden I got a flash of tonight's Democratic Debate in chaos.

Hmmm... let's hope it's Bernie calling it quits at the end of the debate. I'm kidding Bernos... I kid.

In the past I have allured that there would be an assassination attempt to a high profile name in politics (Dem most likely). One of the Tower events I have talked about coming in 2020. However, this attempt didn't feel like an event that was fated, in other worlds it could be prevented. Unlike the Tower event that we are now and the next one that is coming later in the year.

[quote]Oracle, Pete’s dad died in January 2019. The anniversary of his death is coming up. I think he died of cancer.

Hmm, I was thinking more like lover, but I guess this could be the father. A great love in Pete's life. This feels like Pete in present times, so this loss is not an old event. Unless I am channeling Chasten getting attacked or something. Knock on wood.

[quote] Do you ever get a feeling that there will be a brokered convention for the Dems?

It may not look like this right now, but I don't think this is likely. One of the things I took from those readings in the first half of 2019 is that the winner of the Primary would be chosen by the circumstances surrounding that moment not necessarily the merits of the candidate.

I was shut down by another poster for putting this out there, but if Trump were to bow out before the end of the primary, wouldn't that make Biden's bid extremely weak? His whole campaign is riding on the notion that Trump will be the target in the general election. His whole platform is inflexible and if you remember the 6 part energy reading and my readings around that time I said the candidate would have to be flexible in message. In the middle, so that he/she could shift back and forth given the extreme events that would take place. Both Biden and Sanders have boxed themselves in a position that leaves them very little room for expansion or retraction.

If I were Bernie, Pete, Warren, Klobuchar, Yang, Bloomberg, or Steyer, I would want to be top two with Biden in case Trump leaves early. If Trump leaves early, Biden's selling point would weaken him tremendously. Then, the race would turned into a battle of ideals not electability.

> Poor J-Lo. Can't help it. I have a soft spot for her. I remember your reading quite well. I bet it was Bate who kicked J-Lo out of the line-up. I think you predicted that a Kathleen or Katherine for the win (??).

Yeah, that was me - but back then I'd initially misread your question. When I read it, I thought it said, "Will JLo win an Oscar?" but it was actually "Will JLo get an Oscar nomination?" and I got that instant "No, Katherine". So I wonder if it was just knocking her out of the nomination, and not the eventual win?

Dammit, sorry about the formatting. I'll remember how to do it one day...

[quote]If Biden got a Republican VP, he would be assassinated and a Republican would be President.

Let's hope not but clearly this is the Republican party we are talking about. Anything is possible with them.

[quote]hopeful reading of Pete

I feel like he has compartmentalize a lot of his feeling in his lifetime that at times it is hard for him to let his guard down round others, which is a recurring theme with him. Giving yourself to others. I don't mean as a politician but as a person. This has probably helped him focused in getting where he is now, but I can see how a non-midwestern crowd would see him as a bit wooden and ungenuine. This experience is definitely a growing experience for Pete. After all, a person is a byproduct of where they come from. Pete comes from a culture were being gay was difficult even if his parents were more open minded, people in Indiana are conservative, etc...

This guy is like a sponge. He absorbs every bit of information. He soaks in each new experience. It is my belief this guy was probably an explorer in a past life. Like this is his energy at the core. He came here to explore, to feel things, to see things, to be stimulate both mentally and physically. I can see why Pete is attracted to the presidency. You have the world at your disposal when you are the president of a powerful nation. An explorer would love to travel to other nations, tackle the problems of the world and those at home.

Man, I'm finally getting a read on this man.

I’d like to know how the conjunction effects Rudy, because it looks like he might have been overseeing an assassination plot.

[quote]Yeah, that was me - but back then I'd initially misread your question. When I read it, I thought it said, "Will JLo win an Oscar?" but it was actually "Will JLo get an Oscar nomination?" and I got that instant "No, Katherine". So I wonder if it was just knocking her out of the nomination, and not the eventual win?

Since the question was about a nomination, it was probably Bates knocking Miss Lopez out in the cold. *cries*

Good reading WalterH.

[quote]I’d like to know how the conjunction effects Rudy, because it looks like he might have been overseeing an assassination plot.

Link please. Where is this coming from?

Oh shit !

What if offing Biden was actually a thing ?? David hold me!!!!

Just starting to read this assassination plot against the former Ambassador on Twitter. One link below.

Actual story with threat to kill the ambassador.

Walterh, this ambassador news certainly disrupted the debate for me.

My head is spinning. This whole Trump scandal is heading into much darker territory. Hold me Eric Swalwell !!!

You are hot tonight WalterH! Quick! Tell us which numbers to play for the Super Lotto Plus draw tomorrow.

5 numbers from 1-47

and one number from 1-27.

Oracle would be very happy if you do so.

Will nancy hand it over today? Any insight if this crazy maybe hit on the ambassador will make an impact on the Senate

I missed the call on the debate stage being disrupted. I wonder what that flash of the candidates flinching on stage was...

Bernie and Biden bowing out ???

Is Lev Parnas telling the truth? Can anyone read him? He has just thrown EVERYONE under the bus on maddow.

Will it make an impact?

That bus made an impact on ME!

Lev is a revelation.

I am trying to channel him. He's all over the place. Not just with his testimony but who he is trying to protect. I am shocked he threw under the bus that oligarch who is fighting extradition. I guess Putin must no longer need him. However, that also feels like a power move: "I can do damage."

So I'll be honest. This damages Trump badly, so it cannot have happened without Russia's approval. We know that the two Ukrainians have direct ties to Russia, Putin must have known to a degree Lev was going to talk and did not opposed. Which leads me to my next point, I think Putin has gotten from Trump all that he thought he could get from him.

10 of Swords (overkilled) + 7 of Swords (thieve) + Moon (Unknown)

Also, this tells me Putin must be confident that the US has been weakened internationally in the middle East and Asia that he must be confident to go at it alone. There is something that is taking place that the US must not be seeing. I wonder if Iraq might indeed try to kick us out. Maybe more than one nation or something. Like Putin is banking on something. Putin must no know that China is a bigger threat to him than America. I almost feel like China has a goal of making Russia dependent on them. Interesting.

Back to Parnas, I think he has made peace with getting killed. This is him using his last card to keep himself and those around him safe. He's a sneak. He is not throwing everyone under the bus because he is counting on them to protect him.

He's salt of the Earth. Rough around the ages, probably has put a hit on other people.

Why is Lev doing this?

King of Pentacles + Wheel of Fortune + 5 of Coins + Page of Wands

Because once his luck changed (Wheel of Fortune), powerful men left him out in the cold to root in jail (King of Pentacles + 5 of Coins). Deep down he feels like conveying this message (Page of Wands) is his only way out. The wife is a spy I feel, the lawyer too. Look, he is a pawn. He knows it. So using information is the limited resources he owns. So he is using the information he owns.

I feel like Igor knows more, and this is why he is not talking. Lev is more chatty, more accessible. He's the guy that would be fun to go out for beer with... The stories he could tell.

I feel somewhat sad for him. Like you can see the potential this guy had when younger. I don't think he has always been bad which makes this case even more sad. He didn't have to choose a life of crime.

February 13th is endgame.

I always get excited when I scroll and see a lengthy post because I know it's probably Oracle. Thank you Oracle.

Christ! I promised myself I would check my use of grammar before hitting "post." I can't. What you see is what you get. I am hitting the keyboard as I am getting the information.

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To elaborate more on Russia and China. I think Putin feels like the US has been discredited enough that he no longer needs Trump. BUT...there is a part of him that fears that he is letting go of Trump too early. He will try to push for Bernie because that is a candidate that would be weak on Russia. Like I don't feel Bernie has any interest in going after Putin, at least not in a way that would devastate Russia.

Russia will still meddle in the election because he needs to secure a weak US government.

China has other plans though, I think China wants China to be top. Let Russia destroy the US and then China can swoop in and take her place at the top. China doesn't see Russia as an equal. In fact, I think China wants to get rid of Putin once it secures the middle East and greater Asia.

Yes, China and Russia have a long, ugly history.

China is letting Putin do the dirty work weakening the US. But Putin is also weakening himself in the process. China knows this and is just waiting it out.

BTW, Pelosi is seen as the defacto President to the international IC. She's been getting info from them. They are wisely withholding shit from the traitors.

That's what's behind her little side trips to Europe and the like.

Readings:

Tell me what is going to happen to:

Devin Nunes: Knight of Cups + Wheel of Fortune + 8 of Cups

The Knight of Cups represent him before this event took place. He used to go back and forth to offer Trump intel. The information used to travel from congress to the White House through him. The Wheel of Fortune has brought a change of luck and it is going to make him walk away (8 of Cups) . He is leaving. The Knight is a subordinate. He travels to make the bidding of the president.

Pompeo

Ace of Cups + Ace of Swords + 9 of Wands

He will let all the information flow (Ace of Cups) because the Sword of justice cuts deep (Ace of Swords + 9 of Wands). Pompeo will have many more battles (investigations) ahead of him and it may take a toll on his health (9 of Wands). It almost feels like there will come a time when he breaks down and says "no more please, no more."

Barr

5 of Coins + Strength + 3 Wands

He is going to be out in the cold, removed probably. I don't like seeing the Stregth and 3 of wands here. Is he going to escape out of this one? He is clearly banking on something. A pardon? Republicans living him alone?

Since the 3 of Wands is an open ended card (looking into what's ahead) I think his outcome is unknown at this time. However, the 5 of Coins and 3 of Wands are not cards of privilege. They mean poverty and not knowing what's ahead. Maybe his outcome is open ended because his health will determine his future (5 of Coins).

Rudy

Five of Cups + The Fool + 10 of Cups

Clearly he has people that will protect him in NY (10 of Cups). It's Funny but I almost feel like the Fool is telling me he is going to walk into a cliff, as in he might actually die.

The Fool can mean a crazy person. We know Rudy is legit cray-cray. He may end up dying and joining his family on the other side.

I don't like the fact that justice is not showing up for Nunes, Barr, or Rudy. Maybe I am just tire. It's been a long day. I'll pick it up another day.

Oracle, I’ve felt ever since I heard that Putin fired his government, that happened because Putin was waiting for something to happen and it happened. He doesn’t have to keep things in the closet any more, because his plans have come to fruition. I feel like he’s been waiting a long time. Putin does nothing impulsively.

What do you think?

That would make sense, r291. Especially with the epic bombs Parnas just dropped.

I can't see him just up and doing this shit without some ulterior motive. Not just "the truth needs to come out". Bullshit.

This dude has been a scumbag from jump. Now, suddenly, he gets a conscience? Nah. He got his orders from somewhere.

R281, well it may be a little bit of a stretch, but the exchange between Elizabeth and Bernie was a "disruption" and really not a good thing for either candidate, although more so for Elizabeth. So I'm giving you the high five on that one.

I have been expecting this since the fall of 2019. If you remember my old readings (pre-Stacy/Beto) I said Georgia was hacked and but there would be old evidence that would end up coming up through investigations. Then, (post-2018) I said that Stacey, Beto, other losing Democrats would find out almost at the same time that they had actually won their respective elections. That this would take place when Trump was on his way out.

I will reiterate those old predictions:

1) Arizona, Texas, Georgia, [parts of the] Florida [election] were hacked in 2016.

2) It is very likely that most of the Democrats who were on the losing end [from 2016/2018] already know the FBI has the evidence because the FBI would have spoken to them while investigating. I see several male Democrats who ended up losing crying in anger (Beto, Ossof, the Senator from Florida who lost), oddly enough I feel the female Democrats like Stacy Abrams take it more philosophically: "Well it happened, let us fix the system. so it never happens again." Men are just more emotional I guess.

3) I saw several GOP governors having their day in court: Georgia, Texas, Florida, etc...

This is one of the stories that will form the basis of the changes we are going to see in the coming decade. As I have said forever, our forms of governing are going to change. The whole election system will change.

TheVulture here. My usual disclaimer: I'm not a psychic.

I haven't been able to shake this image this past week or so I have of Nancy in front of a podium speaking to reporters. It feels like T&P are out of the picture and she's in charge. There are secret service behind her. I think there might be FBI agents and high profile Democrats and Republicans with her as well.

If she ends up as interim President, I'll share go into more detail. That's it for now.

[quote] If she ends up as interim President, I'll share go into more detail. That's it for now.

I think it's looking like we are heading there. Woho!

My old readings about Pence have always stated that he doesn't become president, or if he does, his time is very short, we are talking weeks.

Either way, for some reason I don't feel threaten by Pence. Unlike Trump, he is lucid enough that he would know he was out of his depth. He wouldn't go toe to toe with Nancy.

My impression over the last few weeks especially is that Pelosi is seen as the defacto President by our allies and the entire intelligence community.

They turn to HER for advice, guidance and to relay information. She may have a limited ability to bring about certain things but they trust that she is working for the good of the country and NATO.

Do we know how long the trial is supposed to last? The Clinton trial lasted 3 weeks. Mary!

I don't know what to think. It feels like we are near the end, but are we really?? Are we really really getting rid of Trump in just a few weeks? Part of me feels like I don't want to get my heart broken again, but it's so tempting to go there...

Hold me Pete Buttigieg !!!

R289, that is the impression I got when I meditated on it. Interesting. I think Putin is not seeing the colossal problem Russia will have with China.

Yes, it seems Nancy is under the radar surely but slowly winning the trust of the Departments that make the government. This is probably how she has been getting the intel. As Novice said above, she's the de facto president.

R291, that came like a bucket of cold water. Like what the hell is he planning? He must be so confident on himself. At the same time, there is a part of him that feels he knows he's going to get stabbed in the back. Like he can't pull it off.

Fellow gay breaks down our upcoming "Year Of The Rat" in this 27 minute video.

Last week a Russian spy satellite exploded. Can someone do a reading on this? Was it an accident or was it shot down? If it was shot down the most likely culprit would be our military. If that's the case then it seems highly unlikely Trump gave the order which would mean he's not as in charge as it may seem.

I think it was a few days later when the Russian government shakeup occurred. Was there a connection?

Quick, what about this Coronavirus which could spread like wildfire across China with many millions traveling for New Year celebrations?

Since I had a little time tonight, I did some card readings on various individuals and the Senate trial. I managed to cut my thumb somehow and it really hurts so I could only do a few before it started hurting.

First off, I asked what is in store for bloated Barr over the next three months. He's gonna have some health issues and not be able to cover for the crime Klan much longer.

He got an offer of some sort (ace cups) and started spreading malicious gossip (leaking shit and speculation to fux et al) (queen swords reversed) and he thinks this is going to pay off big time (empress) but he gets stabbed in the back(10 swords).

Once he gets cut down, his health is going to take a turn (temperance reversed)and he will feel increasingly bogged down and unable to get much accomplished (10 wands).

Seems he is also worried about his legacy and the disgrace to follow once all of his lies and cover-up is exposed.

Radiation poisoning at the Olympics in Tokyo.

Moscow Mitch mctraitor - what's up for him in the next six months?

Turtle made a sweet deal that left him sitting pretty (knight cups, 4 wands) (some readers use 4 wands to symbolize the WH, FWIW).

He's currently waiting on some info or similar (3 wands) but he will let his massive ego get the best of him and this won't come through (ace cups reversed).

He's going to try to sneak away with his ill gotten shit (5 swords) but he's going to run into some issues.

There were two cards that jumped out while I was shuffling. The 6 of cups reversed and the 3 of swords. Seems old turtle is mourning the loss of how things used to be. He misses the "good old days" when he could get away with shit.

Since I read on turtle and he doesn't seem to be able to slip away, I wondered about his beard.

The bitch gets away with it. Fuck.

She has been working behind the scenes doing some clandestine shit (queen swords reversed, the high priestess). She's totally up to no good.

Right now she's in a holding pattern (2 swords) but someone is paying her off for some shit she did previously. She's getting paid off under the table (6 coins).

She's getting away Scott free (7 swords) because everyone is looking elsewhere (7 cups).

Well, at least devoid Devos and Stevie munch end up at Rikers.

Devos - she's delusional. Completely. She thinks she is going to get away with defying a court order and her shady shit because she always has. (7 cups, 6 swords). She's in for a rude awakening.

Heartbreak and failure are sitting on top of her right now. (3 swords, sun reversed). She is miserable.

She's going to try and sneak away (7 swords) but JUSTICE, baby, is right there! She's not going to get away with it!

I also asked if Stevie munch would go to prison for refusing to turn over fat Donnie's taxes. Yep.

He doesn't think he should have to turn them over. There will be a bit of a delay then things just take off and he gets hauled off. Serves him right.

Last one for tonight as my thumb started to hurt from shuffling the cards.

What's going to happen with fux noise in the next three months?

They were made some sort of an offer that they refused (ace cups reversed, judgement reversed). There was something that was supposed to change but they didn't do it.

Now there is a big behind the scenes battle going on (6 wands reversed) and Pelosi is here as well. (Queen wands).

They make some sort of deal or enter into a partnership with someone and JUSTICE, baby!

One card that jumped out of the deck was the 9 of coins reversed - loss of revenue and legal entanglements. I wonder if they end up making a deal due to their legal issues and money loss? I am heartened to see justice in the outcome for them.

Thanks for all those readings, Novice! Hope your thumb feels better!

Is fux noise Fox news?

Yes, r310

First case of Coronavirus confirmed in US today.

COME ON, PEOPLE, DO YOUR JOB!

Do you see an epidemic?

Looking at Trump's transits...

[bold]Saturn opposition Saturn[/bold] ("A material peak"); 12 Jan. - 29 Jan., peaking 21 Jan. - the day his trial started

[quote]If you did not clear away the structures and patterns in your life that were working badly some seven years ago, this influence will be quite difficult. The old failures that you have not handled properly in the last several years will make your life exceedingly difficult now. However, everything that you have handled well will reach a culmination and prove more fruitful than ever before.

[quote]If you are still active in your work life, you may reach a peak of success, which will be accompanied by increased responsibility. In that case you will work extremely hard but very successfully. On the other hand, you may receive abundant evidence that you are working in the wrong area altogether. This would be manifested by extreme difficulties in your work situation, such as finding your efforts blocked by coworkers or superiors. If your superiors disapprove of your performance, you should completely reevaluate your work. Even if you are doing good work, this may be a signal that the job is inadequate from your point of view. This should not be an occasion for self-doubt and despair. Rest assured that you are supposed to be doing something else.

[quote]In a similar way, relationships that were not straightened out several years ago will also prove very difficult at this time and may very well break up completely.

[quote]If your affairs are working out positively, this influence represents a material peak in your life. By this time you have made the impact upon others that you were supposed to make. It is as if you have said to the world, "Here is what I am." [bold]Now, during the next fourteen years, the world will reply, "And here are the consequences of what you are."[/bold]

He also has a Saturn trine Midheaven lined up for 25 January (transit lasts until October), so it's a lucky time for him right now when it comes to his job. Unfortunately for us.

Another Neptune square Uranus peak on 23 February - expect another epic bout of delusion and poor judgment.

But as has been mentioned, the most important times this year for him are 13 February, 12 July, and 20 December - all Pluto opposition Saturn. Those dates are going to rock his world, even if he does end up coming out on top, yet again.

Astrologer Chani Nicholas has a new book out. A couple of people at work just love her stuff. Any opinions from the posters here?

I drew some cards on the coronavirus, and I get the feeling its a lot worse in China than they are reporting.

Postponement: 4 of Clouds (Swords) The card has a lady on it who looks sick and pale, but gazes through a "window" into colour. Almost like she is in quarantine. Since I asked about the virus, maybe this is referring to its incubation period. Perhaps its active in peoples systems, and contagious long before they show symptoms. So if you were around someone who was already presenting symptoms, you should be quarantined to limit the spread.

Sorrow: 9 of Clouds (Swords) The monk on this card is crying so hard his eyes are swollen, and red. I believe a lot more people have died from this than is being reported. I going by the previous card, I will venture to say anyone who was caring for the sick may already have it and not know.

The Master: This card is a stand alone extra in the deck. Every time I pull this card, I get a weird vibe from it. I feel like it is the "beware of false profits" and "bad things behind the veil" card. I feel the government in china is downplaying the severity of it. Was this helped by human hands to spread to people?

Mind: The Page (Knight) of Clouds (Swords) While China tries to keep a lid on how bad it may be, its spreading. While its already popped up in Seattle, Im feeling we are going to see San Fransicso, and New York next. By spring I think its going to have a bit of a foothold here. Enter stage left, fear by way of propaganda. This virus scare I feel is going to be used to try to limit the Chinese entry into the US. I would not be surprised to see Canada follow.

Politics: 7 of Clouds (Swords) This echos the mind card. Sneaky, self serving, and strategic. I really feel we could use this to keep the Chinese from entering. I think a lot of Chinese are going to get sick from this virus, and our government is going to use it as an excuse to place more limitations on China. I think if we do this, a few others will follow.

THANK YOU, QUEERBO-FAGGINS!

The impeachment trial is making me anxious, I do not like the feeling I get around it

Same here, R318. Maybe it's just anxiety due to prior life experiences, but I have this sickening feeling something enormous and terrible is about to happen. I hate it. Our country and our world will never be the same. Lives will end because of Rethugs' evil changes. I've never been so scared and angry in all my life. I actually cried yesterday when I read about what was going on in the Senate.

Again, maybe it's just bad memories from the past making me feel this way. It makes it nearly impossible for me to ever "think positive". I hope that's all it is and everything will be fine.

I asked to get an image of what happens politically in summer. I get an image of Pete and Biden together but Biden is a little out of focus. The image of Pete is clear. Maybe they're on the same ticket?

No, that's not possible as both have committed to picking women as their respective running mates. You might have glimpsed a brokered convention in Milwaukee, though.

R319 , me too. I feel our country has been permanently damaged by what the idiots and drumpf have done. I really have a hard time sleeping these days just thinking about all the ways this could get worse. I remember reading about how people in dictatorships just get used to the ways of the new regime, that people still go to movies, still hang out with friends... etc., but underneath it all, all their essential personal freedoms have been compromised. I had high hopes for some Rs doing the right thing and at least allowing witnesses at the trial, but I'm about done with hoping now.

R321, a lot psychics on Youtube see a woman on the ticket too. I just want to tell you guys what I see.

If you all feel really upset, take it out on your senators if you're in a red state. Let them have it.

If you're in a blue state, call and thank your senators and reps for doing the right thing.

You're not helpless, you're not powerless. Write postcards to voters. We're doing a big push in Florida for vote by mail and I think there are two Kentucky elections coming up.

Get involved at the local level with swing left. Donate.

If it's too much, retreat and regroup. Do it. Turn off social media, stop watching the news. Get outside and walk. Meet a friend for dinner and talk about your childhood or good times in your life.

We will be here when you feel strong enough to return. Don't sweat it. This is a VERY intense time for everyone.

who predicted the deadly virus in the fall?

It has now made it to the US. China is shutting down a city of 9 million and the people were told not to leave and all mass transportation is shutting down tomorrow. They must be dying in droves over there.

I read that since it has hit Seattle they expect SF to be next and then NYC

Oracle, any words of hope?

Oracle, do you see Fairway closing down, the one on 74th/Broadway? Zabar’s is too far to walk for my gefilte fish.

Tom Cruise finally gets outed for good.

Like R326, I need some reassurance. I always felt like Trump would be exposed before the next election. Now I don't know.

R320 Oh please. We don't need either of them. Biden, especially. Pete is cute and a good speaker and that's it.

surrounding cities have now shut down around Wuhan. does anyone see anything? I know it isn't good but tell us anyway.......

If the Chinese did that there is a HUGE issue. They are all about hiding negative matters to save face so it’s probably 100 times worse than they are admitting.

someone posted that they have someone inside Wuhan who said thousands of people have the virus. It seems to be spreading very rapidly

Some dude in TX might have it. He was in China a while back.

😷😷🤢🤢😳

I tried my hand at seeing the Coronavirus last night, and here's what I got:

First it was a flash of dots over the country of China that spread Eastward, past the Koreas, and lit up Japan. It "sprinkled" the Pacific Northwest as it headed South, but then lit up between Las Vegas and Phoenix. After, it sprinkled up the Appalachians until it faded out. As for heading West out of China, it bypassed India for the most part (I got an image of a busy Indian street with just a single sick person), then passed through the Arabian peninsula and down into Central Africa. Europe seemed to be mostly spared, or at least I didn't see it light up at all.

The other part about it that seemed important was that it was a singular wave, once and done.

That's all I got.

Someone in New Jersey has symptoms of the virus.

suspected case at Duke hospital.

I stumbled across another psychic on YouTube the other day and she said something that really stood out to me because either Oracle or Walter had said something similar in the last thread.

She was reading on the impeachment and said the Senate will not convict and that fat Donnie and turtle will crow about their "victory" and be total assholes.

She said then something big drops and there is some sort of pause. She seemed confused and said she didn't understand what she was getting but it looked like after this big drop of information, everything goes dead silent and then there is a rise of the Divine feminine.

It was weird and she just kept repeating, "I don't know what this is about." But that's along the lines of what Oracle or Walter had said - whatever this is that's coming, women will be better able to cope with it. Which always sounded strange to me.

So if Oracle or Walter or whoever made that statement could refresh our memories, I would appreciate it.

This one, r338?

When does this impeachment trial end/What is the outcome?

10 of Wands + Magician (1) = 11

I asked for a Clarifier:

Justice (11) = 11

11 : 11

For those who remember our 11:11 conversations from a decade ago, when a family member was dying I used to see this combination all of the time. After the death of this relative, I did some searching on the significance of the number 11 and came across similar experiences from other people: Seeing/dreaming up the combination 11:11 leading up to a death in the family/ of a loved one.

I never experienced anything like that before or after that particular event... [bold]until[/bold] 2016 when I kept seeing the number 11 when reading on Trump. Back then, in 2016, I interpreted that as his exit coming in November 2017. Month 11 and my experience of the number 11 being death. If you guys also remember those readings, I used to get the Death card a lot when reading Trump. Given my personal experience with that number, my thinking was "ok, his presidency dies in the 11th month of the year."

It never happened. I don't know why.

In my heart I still feel he was ready to go out on 11/2017 and it almost feels like we dropped the ball somehow. It may sound ridiculous, but it almost feels like it was divine intervention. I don't know who he prays to, or everything that is out there, but it's like he had received a lifeline.

I think what this cards are telling me is that his borrowed time is coming to an end. Whatever help he got from the spirit world or the physical world is coming to an end.

To me the 11:11 means death. It's how I have experienced it in my life.

I guess if we were trying to put a number on the length of the trial , it could mean 11 or 22 days. It almost feels like the outcome of the trial doesn't matter so much as the burden it creates on the nation. I go back to those readings on the Deplorables, and I remember being told it "has to hurt. It has to hurt them."

He goes because it creates too much of a burden on the nation. I don't know if he has created enough of a burden on Republicans for them to walk out on him.

10 Wands (Burden) + The Magician ( Talents/Personal Magic) + Justice (Justice arriving)

The outcomes is clearly Justice. Trump will meet justice and pay for what he has done to the nation. The detail is how to get there. How do we get from today (when Republicans are obstructing the impeachment trial) to Republicans dumping him?

I think the blow will have to come out from outside of the trial. The Dems have their hands tied so it's not realistic to expect that Republicans will suddenly grow a conscience. It has to be an event that will surprise from outside the trial: A leak to the press by Democrats, a foreign power, an American/person outside of politics.

It has to be an event that helps Democrats use their cards to sway public opinion because the burden of having him there becomes too much.

I see people whispering on each other's ears: rumors, information passed along to others, communications

Clearly this is leaks; it's the only way Dems can turn this around. It's my belief that Nancy has been gathering intel all this time, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats release it through different channels. It almost feels like the Trial is them giving the Republicans a chance to save themselves: "Do the right thing. I am giving you that opportunity to save yourself."

Wasn’t me R338 - I have done a little on politics, but I’m pretty sure Oracle has tapped into the feminine energy in a previous post.

Thanks Walter. Must've been Oracle or another one if our prognosticators.

What I've been getting is that the orange traitor wants to get out. He wants to flee but too many of the big donors and other scumbags behind the scenes are telling him to stay. That's the only reason he hasn't fled yet.

It isn't even about his "base" anymore. It's about changing our government into an arm of the religious freaks, corporate scum and grinding everyone else up. They are using him as cover.

But I do believe Pelosi isn't done yet. She's just waiting for something. Probably maximum damage. Schiff and the others have bloodied and exposed these traitors but they feel they can control the narrative. That doesn't seem to be working so we'll anymore.

1 of 2

Because the outcome was 11:11, I don't think the Republicans will save themselves. In many ways the trial is their own death. It's a trial not on the president himself but them as a party.

It feels like there is already a plan to go nuclear on the president by releasing intel, but this is Democrats taking care of Mitch McConnell and comp. Spirit tells me "let them put the rope on their necks. Let them do it" and so Democrats are allowing Republicans to hang themselves.

As I said in previous readings, the month of March feels like Nancy Pelosi comes to take charge. I don't know if this is when Democrats try to expose the president, but if feels like the female energy is in a position of offense. In charged.

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I had a dream a couple of nights ago when Bernie had won the presidency. In the dream it was exposed through the newspapers/media that Sanders had been the subject investigations by the MI6 and that the head of that investigation was now going to become the Prime Minister of the UK.

Strangest dream ever.

I am going to repeat what I have said all along, I know that Bernie has a lot of fans here, but the man is crooked. Very likely he would end the Democratic party if he becomes elected. I saw it back in 2015, and I'll repeat it again, he knew Russia was using his campaign to sabotage Hillary. He turned a blind eye because those "efforts" were helping his profile. He view as his only chance to put his agenda forward and if you remember what I said about him when I channeled him: he said to me "the means justify the end."

It was the only way his ideals were going to be put on the table, so he did what he had to do to put those issues on the table. History will judge him. Was he right? Was he wrong? Time will only tell.

I said years ago there would be karmik justice coming, for many of our faves too unfortunately. I highlighted Obama, Biden, Trump, Bernie, Al Franken, McConnell, and Bush's brother. Years later I still stand by those words. In the future Hillary will eclipse Sanders, Obama , and Trump in importance. She will be loved postmortem. What we see in the present is not necessarily how History will judge us. I saw this in 2008 after the Democratic convention. I said that Obama would win the general but even though his presidency would seemed Historic, I saw his light dimming as time passed.

Now, I don't know if he will be blamed for Russia because as a black man it would be easy to escapegoat him, or if in the future something comes out that is going to make people reevaluate his efficiency as president. It almost feels like people are going to call him weak and that's how historians will judge him. I always saw that and now years removed from that reading I can actually say I can see it happening. Again time will tell. I do remember seeing that something shady went on the 2008 primary. I have said it many times here that the landmark even was not the actual presidency but the introduction of EI in the 2008 Democratic primary by the Obama campaign. In my opinion that is the even that changed History.

Also, talking about what it's owed, I still say the Bushes will end up being exposed for having rigged 2000. That is a date that Karma hasn't forgotten, and I don't think that is going to be payed in the Spirit world. That particular karmic debt is going to be payed in the physical world.

paid*

Good lord.

In a more gossipy subject, I was watching the Skating Lesson and thought to myself "those two kweens are going to have sex." Now let me tell you something, two bottoms can't make a top. So they will either go find a top them, or they'll end up buying a double side dildo.

Is the British ice dancer that skates for America gay? I feel like he is gay. Every time I see Zack Donohue the words "Bisexual on the down low" comes to mind. I think if he marries a woman, he is going to be fucking men in the down low. I just see it. Sorry.

come to mind*

Reading these newer posts reminded me of an image I got a few months back that I forgot about.

Nancy is standing behind a large desk. On the desk there are rows of papers that from above look like the spines of an open fan. These are different plans on how to deal with Trump and the trial. There are 3 main rows in front of her that she's focusing on, but it's like she's anticipated every GOP manuever and made a plan for it.

If they do this, then we do that.

If they go here, then we go there.

Etc.

Like Oracle, I think leaks are part of the plan. Leaking damaging info AFTER the Senate acquits Trump would make all of the GOP look very bad. I think that's part of the plan too.

All these rows (roads?) Lead back to Pelosi. I actually want to say she feels giddy about how the GOP are being set up.

Oracle, what does the introduction of il in 2008 mean?

I was told 3,000 people will die of the new Flu.

It's besides the point to say if it will spread since we know that it has...

4 of Coins (keeping tight), The Hermit (internal), The Hanged Man (delay/gaining enlightment)

This cards don't tell me of an actual pandemic, but I do think China will probably keep info from getting out (4 of Coins + The Hermit).

Clearly they are talking the steps to isolate the danger zones. I think around 3k might end up dying, but it feels like most of them might be inside of China (4 of Coins, The Hermit, Hanged Man). What I do see is that new parasites are coming back because of cold temperatures. China and all of Asia will always be in danger of pandemics. More ice melting, more microbes going into the air. Big population concentrated in a region = danger.

It should read "old parasites are coming back because of warm temperatures*

there*

etc...

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Also Brandon Flynn is a slut.

I think the vision I saw of Flynn getting rawdog by a more alphaish man was not something from the past, but something that was about to happen (future). It's a lighter skin guy, since Flynn is white I am going to say pasty skin. Short hair, black hair, pasty white skin. Is Quinto really porking Brandon like they say in that other thread? Are Richard Madden and Flynn kaput?

In that vision I saw someone had taken a video that might come to surface. Perhaps it meant that the affair was going to be exposed. Hmmm

In that vision it was sunset, the windows were semi-open and the dim orange-ish light of the sunset made the room feel stuffy and cheap, so this was probably around late Spring/Summer.

I don't know, I'll have to think about it.

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I hope my recent readings covered some of the questions being asked. I've been rather busy to really dwell into the Spirit world.

Thought I might try asking about the next high profile shooting (since that's what I'm usually better at) but before I could even get the full question out, I got 'Denver'.

Thanks, Oracle.

I hope not, Walter

I wanted to share something odd that just happened.

My husband and I share a tight bond in many ways. Like one morning when I was on a business trip, I woke up at 4:43am because something was "wrong". I didn't know what it was, other than an unsettling feeling. Three minutes later, my phone rang. It was my husband (200 miles away), calling to tell me he was on his way to work, and he'd just hit a deer.

Well today, I have had the song Funiculì, Funiculà running through my head. I don't know the words (it's in Italian) so I haven't sung it or whistled it. Just enjoyed the soundtrack of my mind. We get ready for bed - I'm reading and Boo is playing a game on his tablet and he tells me he's ready for bed. Just that a song just popped into his head, so he wants to listen to it once before lights out. Fine with me, until I hear the telltale opening notes of Funiculì, Funiculà. I asked him about it, and he said it'd been playing in his head the last couple hours, and what did I think of it?

Interconnectedness, indeed!!!!!

Had a vision today of AG William Barr vomiting blood into his toilet and not telling anyone that this is happening regularly. Death is very much on his mind and despite what he said in his Alaska interview, he wants to be a Hero. Is he a heavy drinker? Because I see something drink-related creeping up on him.

Nice gay gives his take on the corona virus, and astrology.

I loved that parasites film.

Thanks for the Brad and Jen insight. With the unfinished business and closure, does that mean reuniting before a final end?

r330 Speak for yourself. Unless you were using the royal "we" in which case you're a cunt.

Also, this is a predictions thread, not a thread for political discussions of your preferred candidates. Plenty of those around.

Trump has two fantastic transits tomorrow just as his defence starts - Mercury trine Uranus, Moon trine Mercury.

Can you translate that for me, r359?

The widening gap between rich and poor is now at unprecedented levels (I think 127 or so people hold as much wealth as half of the world’s population at this point), so I’d be interested to see if there’s anything that will happen to ameliorate this in upcoming years. Any psychics want to take a look at this and see if this will start to change at all?

Wow, I got a good card reading this time. I should practice more.

[quote]Thanks for the Brad and Jen insight. With the unfinished business and closure, does that mean reuniting before a final end?

Not necessarily. Not in a romantic sense. "Unfinished business" in the sense that they have a tight karmic bond (Saturn-moon, nodes-MC axis and other aspects) and will likely be in-&-out of each others orbits throughout this lifetime. Professionally and/or personally; the romantic part of the link is likely in the past. A strong friendship is my take -my predictive sense isn't the best though lol.

r359/r360: trines by transit are not necessarily lucky, but can bring easy energy for the native affected. Merc for Trump could bring could pr/publicity or a positive comms strategy during the trial. Merc transit by nature are quick & don't last long...someone here said he has sat trining his MC right now, which could be a bit 'protective' in terms of his presidency and image. We'll see.

Kobe Bryant today had transiting uranus trining his sun-merc combo in early virgo. Not exactly a lucky combo in his case; his death was unexpected, but likely quick & easy.

I hope neither he nor anyone else on that chopper had to suffer, r363.

I'm really sad about his daughter. She was just a little kid, FFS!

R363 thanks. Not going to lie and it will be unpopular but I want them back together. Wish stars or destiny flips that way.

Corona virus update pls! Oracle is this the event you warned about having savings available? The wu flu thread citing various conspiracy theories around the coronavirus scared the heck out of me.

In 2018 China opened a lab in Wuhan to study SARS and Ebola. Interesting.

A famous basketball player will die in a helicopter crash in January.

Anything coming through today DL readers?

I follow a couple of psychics in other places and they have been saying that Trump wants to get out now but he has been told by other powerful people to stay. DL psychics any insights on this?

Been hearing that as well, r370. He certainly is behaving as such and his brats have been scarce

Also, I'm not one to get visions or flashes too much. That's not really my purview but yesterday driving to work I was listening to some podcast (can't even remember what) and they mentioned Alfa bank and another bank (not Deutsche Bank). And I saw this black spiderweb of corruption spread out over Europe and the middle east. Where these webs intersect, there are massive hubs that are the centers running this corruption.

London is one. There is also one in or around Kuwait and another in Eastern Europe (I was trying to find on a map where it looked like these hubs were but I was seeing the world round and not flat, like looking at it from space and not on a flat map and trying to reconcile that was difficult for me). I will see if I can pinpoint it today if I get a chance

If one of these "hubs" gets exposed, it will bring the entire network down. It's really massive and it goes deep. The corruption behind the scenes is massive and terrifying.

DL astrologers, is there something going on today? My world feels like a complete clusterfuck

R372 me too several bombshells out of the blue in my workplace today. Weird!

The New Moon in Aquarius was last week and the next month is going to be a lot of unexpected and powerful sudden happenings

I hope one of those sudden happenings is Trump suffering a major stroke.

NO R375! We want him healthy when he leaves office so he can be prosecuted by all the state courts that have him in their sights.

Here’s more information on it

R376, NO, I want him to be rendered incapable of continuing in office because he’s a FUCKING DANGER TO US ALL. Get it?

Related to these earthquakes in the Caribbean... somebody posted in one of the 2019 prediction threads that they saw Haiti and the Dominican Republic completely underwater. Who was that?? I’m going to look

Since I was reading on my beloved kitty earlier, I thought I would ask about the country since I had the cards out.

Kitty is battling a bacteria that is all in her belly causing her not to eat. She was starting to look like the Darfur Orphan and the vet scared me when I took her in. So I wanted to know that she would be ok. Yes, she will but she may end up needing to be on meds long term but I'm ok with that.

Anyway, I asked what was in store for the US over the next six months.

The first thing I noticed is there are no major arcana cards here. The outcome is completely in our hands.

The cards of the past show an uneasy balance (2swords) and the money man is moving out. The influence of the king of coins (reversed) is ending.

The energy now is one of animosity and people just wanting to pick fights (knight of swords reversed) - especially with what they feel is the future. (The reversed knight of swords is literally face to face with the reversed knight of coins).

The ten of swords is also in the present. Is this shit show almost over, finally? Will the people realize we've been stabbed in the back?

The future shows the knight of coins reversed which could be our collective impatience to "get over it" and move past this but also that we have some money issues.

The last card is the page of coins. This card in this position is interesting on several levels. It's a scholars card. Love of learning, new ideas, new ways of doing things. It's also a young persons card. The king of coins has moved out, he's reversed in the past. The young person is in the future.

In another deck I have, this card is the card of manifestation. Where your thoughts and dreams manifest into reality. As above, so below.

So I thought that was hopeful somewhat.

Now to go poke pills down kitty's throat. Poor kitty.

Hope your kitty feels better soon r380

Thank you, r381.

I'm not a cat person but she acts more like a dog. Very affectionate, likes people, greets all visitors, rides around on my shoulder.

So I'm doing my best to get her to eat and put on weight.

R382, besides all your cat's favorites you may want to think about getting some kitten food and some of the broths that you can put on top of her regular food. That's what usually works when my cat is on a hunger strike. My cat also likes salami.

It is the end of times!

I thought about the kitten food, r383. I may give it a try. I do have some "cat gravy" that was on sale. Maybe I will try that.

I think once the fluid in her abdomen goes down, she will be eating like crazy.

Thanks, everyone, for your kind thoughts.

I normally don't get glimpses of actual people, but today as I was working, I saw William Shatner falling down. Not dying, but injuring himself. He'll recover, but I think becomes more of a recluse after the fall.

It’s weird, r386, but I was prompted an hour ago by another DL thread to look at tombstones and happened upon Leonard Nimoy’s. First thought was surprise that it’s been 5 years, second though was I wonder what William Shatner is up to.

Want to revisit the Kobe accident to illustrate the importance of the vertex as a key fated point in life. Oddly, I didn't see much involvement in his chart at time of death (it's not a given that activity will show in a chart for this time). Admittedly, I didn't do progressions or solar arcs, if some else wants to check these please weigh in.

Where it really shows is in his late daughter's and wife's charts. Gianna Bryant's nodal axis straight on conjoins the local vertex at the exact accident time, as well as local desc-asc axis. Fate in motion. Her mother, Vanessa's prominent venus-mars opposition exactly lines up here as well.

I get an intuitive strong flash of Vanessa grieving (obviously), but emerging as a kind of phoenix-figure, once the current shock abates, later on. Very strong energy. Reading her moving ig post today, got an instant flash of another famous widow: Priscilla Presley, both women a 'keeper of the flame' for their husbands image.

A comparison of charts confirms my thoughts: both w/venus in fiery aries, north node in nurturing cancer, both highly Saturnian: Priscilla's Sat conjunct n node in her 7th (spouse), ruled by scorpio moon in 10th (career/fame via inheritance and death). Vanessa's conjuncts her Libra moon: heavy responsibility or public image via marriage & family. would enjoy seeing her birth time to get her angles.

Want to add to above: the vertex also played a major role in the birth & natal charts for JFK Jr, who also died in a flying accident resulting in extended public mourning.

The vertex/moon of his accident-death chart easily lines up with his ascendant-nodal axes (both tightly conjunct at birth); while his natal vertex in leo exactly conjoins the nodal axis that day, within seconds of arc. Striking, and too prominent for mere coincidence imo. Strongly supports the vertex as a "point of fate", astrologically.

I feel like some serious bombshells will start dropping next week

Would someone please do a reading on Rump and the Rethugs actions on Social Security and other similar programs? I'm afraid part of his revenge tactics will be to end SS et al, making people suffer for the Dems actions.

Trump has a horrible Saturn opposition Venus transit coming up on February 6, and again on September 6 and October 21. People abandoning him and finances drying up during this period. Not a happy time.

^^ His natal Venus is in 11th house, i.e. the house of friends, but also colleagues and social circles. So yeah, this ugly transit will definitely mark people abandoning him and him feeling isolated. He doesn't really have any friends, so expect this to apply to his lackeys and enablers instead.

He has wonderful transits lined up for tomorrow, so it wouldn't surprise me if he does get acquitted. Eugh.

Dang

R394 There was a Senator that said they wanted to have the acquittal vote by Friday. So yes, he'll get away with it.

I wouldn't give salami to a kitten with stomach trouble. I wouldn't give it to any cat or dog.

[quote]He has wonderful transits lined up for tomorrow, so it wouldn't surprise me if he does get acquitted. Eugh.

Wouldn't be surprised if there's an acquittal - because, you know, republicans - but what makes you think he has great transits tomorrow? anything specific -I don't see much.

Transiting north node will cnj his merc this week (rules his sun/n node); mars is also getting ready to pass over natal moon which could bring some action or event next week. Transiting late aries moon will trine his mars tomorrow, then his asc in the evening around 6 pm - is the vote being held then? Could be viewed as protective, but as I've previously pointed out, trines aren't always 'lucky' by any stretch.

Of note to me is the ongoing pressure from sat-pluto to his venus-sat in the 11th, and Neptune squaring his Uranus (6th ruler: health) as well as his nodes: karma come home to roost?

The overall picture is murky imo.

I'm getting the words "the fever breaks this year" in regards to this presidency.

Oracle, anything? Thank you!

I said this above, just reiterating what I see with D Trump is someone behind the scenes is right now negotiating to take Trump's power from him. This will become clear to the greater public around June/July 2020. His older children will also feel some pain come June. No I don't what form this pain will take. Maybe there will be a loss of status...

He will definitely be acquitted, but I don't think Moscow Mitch understands the resulting backlash and what Nancy and company are going to be dropping over the next month

R402 I think he counting on the states that are controlled by republicans to fix the next election in the states not controlled by republicans he counting on Russia to do the same.

I see Nancy Pelosi tossing a rope to the Senate floor: "Here, help yourselves." Remember what I said, this trial is on the Republican party.

Remember what I said in my last reading, the blow has to come from outside the trial. In that reading I saw people whispering to each other, in other words passing information along. Think leaks to media, witnesses talking loosely, information spilling into the collective, etc...

Schiff brilliant as he is...was never in danger of winning this trial outright. If you remember my Tower event reading, I said the Tower event was not a single event but a timeline that would culminate with Trump's exit. Think of it this way, impeachment is one of several punches that will cause his exit.

What is shocking to me is to read that the trial can end today. Energetically speaking, the trial felt like it could spilled into February, so I am somewhat shocked to see the possibility of it ending in January. Because it felt [to me ] like information was coming out as the trial was in process.

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Jarek Wentworth is out today. Oh glorious day.

False alarm! Jarek is not out "out" yet. Fucking DL you tricked me !!!

I actually see him getting himself another Sugar daddy.

Reports are now saying the trial could extend into next week. Fingers crossed. Go Oracle!

Not a prediction, but...

If Romney (a yes vote), Murkowski (possibly a yes vote), and Collins (a yes vote) join all 47 Democrats, then yes, we will end up with a 50/50 tie vote for calling witnesses and documents. Judge Roberts would be the tiebreaker and in order to appear impartial, he will vote for witnesses if for no other reason than he is a judge and knows how important witnesses and evidence are to a trial.

Trump will still get off, but the evidence will be damning.

So yes, I feel like the trial is going to go longer than today. But you know, Republican evils know no bounds.

Trump will unfortunately win because the Dems are a complete mess. And then the orange asshole will be more entitled than he feels now, if that's even possible.

Not a prediction but an observation that I posted in another thread.

About twice a month, I have to drive a different road to get to work. Since 2016, one of the houses on this street has been flying this stupid tRump flag and the American flag.

Last month I drove by and the tRump flag was gone. I drove by there again yesterday and that stupid flag is STILL GONE.

This is red Ohio, too, so it isn't like the fool is getting called out.

And just like that, Republicans fail to surprise me. Murkowski announces she is against witnesses.

I don't know. I really was expecting this to drag until mid February. Energetically it felt like we had another two more weeks. But you know what? Let this sham trial end today if it must. Then, let the leaks come out all of the month of February until it becomes unbearable to Republicans.

I want every Republican to be on record having gone against the public wishes. I want them to be paint into a corner.

I truly hope the real shit starts hitting the fan soon

Carol Burnett will be very ill and/or die.

Cheryl will get breast implants and one will pop in her partner’s eye instantly killing her partner.

And her pussy will still stink, r414.

DL seers can you read anything on coronavirus? Will we be encouraged to stay in our homes by March. Or is this going to blow over sooner?

[bold]Reading about the 1st half of the primary[/bold]:

First Four Contest: Iowa, NH, Nevada, and SC:

[bold]Tier 1[/bold]: Biden (The World) vs Bernie (The Wheel of Fortune) = Biden

Both Formidable opponents but the world means having it all, including the support of the people.

[bold]Tier 2[/bold]: Warren (King of Swords) vs Buttigieg (Page of Swords/The Hanged Man) = Warren

An uphill battle for sure (7 of Wands; fighting for your spot/holding your ground against the opposition). The King of Swords who presides over documents, legal matters, and Law versus youthful idealism.

[bold]Tier 3[/bold]: Bloomberg (King of Coins), Klobuchar (Queen of Wands), Yang (five of Cups) , Steyer (Knight of Swords) : The cards were all over the place, so I'll rank them based on the strength of the cards: Bloomberg, Klobuchar, and Steyer.

Both the King of Coins and the Queen of coins have plenty of resources to stay until Super Tuesday, but should they? In any case, given that we are talking about legal procedures (elections). I would say that the Swords and Wands are stronger cards for a reading about elections.

***Super Tuesday***

Tier 1: Warren vs Biden

Tier 2: Bernie vs. Klobuchar vs Bloomberg vs Buttigieg vs Steyer ( Note: it's not clear to me that we will have more than 3 candidates by Super Tuesday).

I usually just rank people in my election predictions, but since in this particular case there are clear different tiers, I went ahead and pit them against each other. However, if I were to rank them based on the strength of the cards....

1. Biden

2. Bernie

3. Warren

4. Klobuchar

5. Bloomberg

6. Steyer

7. Buttigieg

8. Yang

*Pete is a tricky candidate to read because if the elections were more about ideals rather than the urgency to remove Trump, I would place him much higher given that his cards hint at new ideas/youth/enlightenment. This is a case where the situation is dictating faith instead of the merits of the candidate. I wish him all the luck none the less. I would love a Warren/Buttigieg ticket. I think it could be a great presidency.

*Both the King of Coins and the Queen of coins

I meant to say Queen of Wands not Queen of Swords.

So what happens now?

I have my pendulum if anyone has short-term questions with yes/no answers.

Will the Rethugs fuck over Social Security recipients?

Will Moscow Mitch be taken out of power soon?

Will Beto divorce his frauish wive and get with me instead?

You have good taste, Oracle!

Will Bill Barr be removed within the next three months?

Once he's gone, a lot of investigations he's put the kibosh on will start up again.

[quote]You have good taste, Oracle!

All I ask from baby jesus is to have Beto's dick inside me.

Todays I am putting a candle for Warren and Pete.

Please baby Jesus. Give the gays a hand !!!

Anything for us today DL seers?

Bump

I predict Kirk Douglas will die.

Trump has the most fantastic transit ever tomorrow when he is set to deliver his victory speech - Sun trine Jupiter.

But don't worry, that period of tribulation I mentioned at r392 starts in the evening.

When are Trump, Barr, McConnell, pompeo and the rest going down? I cannot take this!

Well, R430, at least one prediction in this entire thread came true.

The Kirk Douglas "prediction" was posted after Douglas died. Same with another "prediction" above.

But there are plenty of things in this thread and the ones before it that have come true.

I know it was R434. You couldn't predict that I was being facetious?

Sorry, no R435. When you deal with as many Trump supporters as I do, you can't expect people to understand simple facts.

I am heartbroken over what has happened to our way of life - and the last two days have been further depths of hell. Emoluments overlooked, career professionals escorted out of the white house. Please tell us that this horror show will end soon... lie if you have to. Give us something to hold onto...

several people over time have said we would have to go thru hell to get to where we are going but it IS almost over. DON'T give up!

Take my hand, r437. We are all in this together and we will get through it together. We will come out stronger in the end.

Just think back on the American revolution. That way of life changed to something better. Valley Forge, PA with no shoes in the winter? Yeah. We did it. . Same with the civil war. Same with the civil Rights movement. If you need some inspiration, read about John Lewis and the shit he has seen and lived through.

Yes, it's terrifying but good people have always risen to the challenge and come out on top because we are made of finer stuff.

To quote Master Yoda, "easier is the dark side. Quicker." Anything good and worth having takes time. Hang in there.

Disengage from social media and all news programs. Seriously. If it is just scaring you, get away from it. Watch your favorite movies instead or read a book. There are great suggestions for both on other threads. Remember these pundits get PAID to frighten and enrage you.

If you're mad, volunteer for a campaign in some capacity. Contact your local Democrats group and get involved.

If that's too much, volunteer at a food bank or local animal shelter. Plenty of dogs need walks and kitties need love. Read to an elderly person or a sick child.

We will be ok. It's going to hurt and be scary but we are here with you. Remember how we took back the House in 2018? We will do it again with the Senate. So hang tight and don't get in your head too much.

Is Trump going to get one of his enemies here in America killed because he sure seems to be trying?

If I remember correctly one of the predictions was that if Trump was still here in March, one of the politicians would be killed but at the time the predictor didn't think Trump would still be here.

And another bombshell was supposed to drop that would change everything. Or maybe it was Trump was going to become ill and leave the White House. Or maybe it was that there were other whistleblowers that were going to come forward. None of these predictions happened. But instead, Trump seems stronger, more invincible and more protected than ever. And the only one who left the WhiteHouse is Lt. Col. Vindman.

Oracle, what's happening?

Here's an interesting guy I found on YT. He sees pictures of people's situations and he has a pretty good track record.

He said the dotard would get hit by three waves. Impeachment was the second wave. (My guess is Mueller was the first). When he gets hit by the third wave, it wipes him out.

This particular video he talks about the traitors at the trial. The vids are short and the guy is very animated and funny. I've been going back and looking at some of his old videos and he seems pretty accurate.

He also will do pictures for you but I haven't visited his site to read the details on that.

He's very confident that all of these traitors will fall so take heart.

Here's an interesting guy I found on YT. He sees pictures of people's situations and he has a pretty good track record.

He said the dotard would get hit by three waves. Impeachment was the second wave. (My guess is Mueller was the first). When he gets hit by the third wave, it wipes him out.

This particular video he talks about the traitors at the trial. The vids are short and the guy is very animated and funny. I've been going back and looking at some of his old videos and he seems pretty accurate.

He also will do pictures for you but I haven't visited his site to read the details on that.

He's very confident that all of these traitors will fall so take heart.

r444 I just found that guy about 5 days ago and I love him. I watched most of his videos on predictions. I like to see if what he had said has actually happened.

He is very interesting and atypical. I also find it interesting that a lot of card readers/psychics seem to be on the same page lately

anyone see what's in store for President Xi Jinping?

Is the future looking so bad that we've done to radio silence. I have to say I've been very disheartened since the Senate's expected "acquittal" (in quotes for every good reason.) But particularly as we've had to bear Trump's deceitful victory laps and vengeful behavior. How is this con artist-criminal not in jail?!?!

I know nobody wants to hear it but I see him being re-elected and by the third year of his second term everybody even supporters will be done. I don’t see him accomplishing much else that’s real but he will continue his disgusting trashy behavior. I think most of the worst things he’s done have already happened. I see a barely concealed affair coming up.

I've already posted I'm not that great at 'predictive' astrology. I fall into category of those practitioners who don't feel it's all that predictive; and my expertise is primarily relationship astrology, or synastry. Then there's this current administration, which gives me hives...but I'm willing to take a stab.

There's a school of thought (from the UK I believe) that those who come to power in public life, have ongoing hard transits to their angles from outer planets at the time of their elections, or rise to prominence. It's been tested to decent effect in the last several US and UK elections (Obama, Trump, Cameron/May/BoJo). With this in mind, I took a glance at the charts of some of the Democratic contenders.

Biden will be undergoing a tight square to his MH axis next fall/winter, from transiting neptune. I wouldn't write him off just yet - this is a standard transit for a rise to power. I can't see anything in Mayor Pete's chart that bears anything similar - if someone wants to look and opine otherwise feel free. I really like him, and he'd have my vote, but his chart isn't instilling a belief that he can go the distance here.

Klobuchar: will have an *exact* square to her asc axis on Inauguration day next year, from uranus AND mars, both of which will be exactly cnj that day as well as hovering near/on the local ascendant around noon (historical time of swearing in). Transiting jupiter in aquarius will be on her asc and POF (auspicious!) with saturn not far behind. Either way, she's going to reap benefits from this election cycle. If she's not elected, will go out on a limb and predict a VP spot or cabinet role.

As the year goes on will continue to look. I haven't checked Warren or Sanders yet so there may be something there. Sanders will have a trans pluto squaring his natal moon, so there's that.

I'm better with "flash" questions, so I don't know much about Trump. That said, I do NOT think he will be re-elected.

Speaking of a flash, I asked what the NH vote outcome will be. Here's what I saw.

29% Pete

26% Sanders

14% Amy

12% Warren

10% Biden

6% Tulsi

I hope you're right Walter.

Wow walterh that would be devastating to sanders!

Three out of the four prosecutors in the Rodger Stone case have resigned this afternoon over the interference of William Barr. In the sentencing recommendations. I'm wondering if this is the start of the bad events for Trump that's supposed to start tomorrow. We can only hope.

Fingers crossed, r455, really hoping the shit starts to hit the fan soon

I keep thinking os Roger Stone the hill Trump will die on?? Crossing fingers and toes!!

R455, how is that bad for Trump? It seems like another win for him.

Trump will commute Rodger Stones sentence or pardon him. You don't need to be a psychic to see this coming.

R458/Rose, it’s a clear indication that some people have had it with Trump and are refusing to go along with the corruption. The House of Cards is finally starting to sway from tiny tremors.

Oh, really, R460? Looks to me like Trump and Barr totally owns our justice system. How do we fight corruption when the good guys who spent their lives fighting the good fight have now resigned? Who is left? Oh, that's right...no one.

Chill out, Debbie Downer.

Trump beats the Democrat by 10 million votes but loses the Electoral College.

Bloomberg will get it done. Like Johnson got Brexit done.

Looks like I overshot nearly everyone at R452. They said 40% of voters made up their minds today, so maybe that's what threw me off.

I need to practice some more.

REQ: Has anyone read Bloomberg yet? I know he has been mulling a run for president for the past 12 or so years. While he has many flaws he also checks a bunch of boxes for dems. (Gun control, climate change reform, gay rights, reproductive choice.)

Is he running to actually solve problems or for his vanity?

Bloomberg knows where Trump’s bodies are buried. And, as Nicolle Wallace put it last night he’ll “fight high and low and fight dirty” and that’s the only way to win. She also said “show biz needs to fight show biz” and I agree with her.

R467, I grudgingly agree. I hate what Trump has turned this country into,but if it takes stooping to his level to get rid of him, then so be it. He's a cancer and it's going to take harsh measures, like radiation and chemotherapy, to get us on the path to healing and strength again.

Oracle? Any insights would be more than welcome.

R5 .

Re: R5 The week is starting off on the right foot. Neon has bought the North American rights to Shirley, which stars Elisabeth Moss, Michael Stuhlbarg, Odessa Young and Logan Lerman. (Why, yes, they’re the same company that bought and distributed Parasite in the U.S.)

Hello its Feb 13th anything going down?

So Barr tells the NYT he’s tired of Trump’s Bullying and interference in the Justice Department . Is this and the John Kelley interview in WaPo the pivot point?

No R473 Barr is lying he will do anything Trump tells him to do. What he's saying is just a distraction.

I don’t care if it is, it will no doubt piss off Trump and that’s what matters.

R475 is right. No need to even give the NYT an interview unless he had a message he wanted out there. But for sure this could be a distraction.

No way lapdog Barr didn't sync with this his master Trump - of course the media is falling for it. Now they'll give Barr a pass for not standing up to Trump.

Oracle?

Really, R477? You do remember that Trump hates being told what he can and can’t do, right? No way was this orchestrated between them.

I agree that Dump’s enormous ego would not have allowed Barr to say anything.

Trump is an evil idiot but Barr is just evil so nothing that walking bag of rot says should be trusted.

Bump for my DL seers. I can’t use a bat signal just a bump!

Do we think Bloomberg could possible get the nomination?

Any seers out there?

Sure. What do you want me to see? I don't normally do this, but for you I will.

A large Earthquake in the Pacific Northwest SOON.

Will the police have any information on the identity of the Zodiac killer this year?

I think they're running out of funds on the case. Some good leads, not bad but not exactly a complete solving either.

R484 how bout a reading on Bloomberg?

I wonder if the silence that has started on this thread is because many of the things predicted to happen in the first six weeks have not come true. Shame.

I can't speak for anyone but myself. I have been out of town and taking care of other things right now.

However, my prior card readings still stand, especially regarding Devoid Devos and Stevie munch. Both of these scumbags are having issues and we will find out about it in a month or two. By early May at the latest.

Oracle may be dealing with his own issues. Sometimes shit just happens and it wears you down. So send him, vulture and Walter some gratitude. He will be back when he is able. Just hold on.

i hope that Oracle is busy having Beto inside him quite deeply

Thanks, R491 - I've been quiet because I now have THREE jobs and am working 70 hours/week, plus a 6-month-old puppy, PLUS I'm writing two (fiction) books. The last thing I predicted was the NH outcome, which was a bit off. I'm hit or miss lately.

R490 People posting here aren't performing monkeys here for your amusement. Take your negative energy elsewhere.

How bad does it have to get before the decent members of the GOP(if there are any left)start trying to fight back against Trump and his protectors William Barr and Mitch McConnell?

Queen Liz will die before 2020 is over. She becomes really sick in late summer and dies soon after.

[quote]I wonder if the silence that has started on this thread is because many of the things predicted to happen in the first six weeks have not come true. Shame.

Your statement makes no sense since this thread has remained active for the last 6 weeks. Don't project onto us your frustrations. We read on our time and when we are willing.

There are no drastic changes in the energies out there that would warrant another reading. Therefore, the readings from the last couple of weeks still stand.

Thank you Oracle. I don't know you but miss you when you aren't around.

[quote]i hope that Oracle is busy having Beto inside him quite deeply

I have come to the conclusion that he made a terrible decision by marrying his current wife. It pains me to know he will never experience the true pleasures of anal play...

hehehe

[quote]Thank you Oracle. I don't know you but miss you when you aren't around.

I haven't done a reading in the last few days because of work and I am currently doing sketches of the King of Cups for my deck. I was trying to model the King of Cups after Beto (Libra/Water sign) but his energy is less disciplined than that of a king so I'll probably scratch that idea. Also, I am volunteering for local campaigns so my mind is not on doing readings at this time. I may do one after Super Tuesday to check on how I did on the last few readings.

I didnt do any readings because my husband threw my cards away. He said they were bad luck. I'll start when I get a new deck. I dont know if I'll get the Osho Zen again, however I did get a good reading or two from them.

The Boulder Colorado police will announce a genetic match to the DNA from the underwear that was an outsiders.

r500 “the magic is inside you - there ain’t no crystal ball!”

R501 interesting!

The next president will be a man and his vp will be a woman. He will die in office and she will be the first female president.

^ maybe Bloomberg and Klobuchar.

Brandon Flynn/Richard Madden update: So Richard flew back to LA a few days after Eternals wrapped instead of staying in the UK, suggesting they're still together. They've been sighted at a park/trail and art event separately on social media. Brandon also seems to be in recovery from alcohol/substance abuse. Far as I can tell, they're the first high profile gay/bi male couple that Oracle predicted would become commonplace. I still can't wrap my head around his prediction that gay/bi/queer men will outnumber str8 men though, unless enough str8 men identify as queer for solidarity/virtue signaling reasons. Nor can I see how gay/bi men can outnumber gay/bi women unless again, it's the heterosexuals self-identifying as queer.

maybe Bloomberg and Stacey Abrams. that will help him with the black vote. Or Sanders and Stacey

Back in the third 2019 thread, Oracle and NAOP both said that there was a male energy that probably hadn't entered the race yet. So with Bloomberg now in the race, this may be the male energy that comes into power and beats Trump. Both also said there was abundant female energy - so likely a female VP.

I haven't been able to get anything lately, though I haven't had much time. And again, I'm better at "instant read" type questions as well as larger, tragic events. My last thing about Denver hasn't panned out, so I don't know if it's a miss or if it just hasn't happened yet.

I think Bloomberg and Abrams is much more likely than Bloomberg and Klobuchar. I see zero chemistry between those two.

Bloomberg and Kamela could also be a possibility

Looking back at those old readings and they feel more on the mark than many of our more recent readings, and I don't know if it's because as we get closer to the election we are getting more emotional that some of us are starting to project our own biases into our readings.

For me personally, it almost feels like it was easier to read the energies out there even a year ago. It used to be easier to read on Trump.

I don't pretend to know everything that is out there, but it almost feels like the longer Trump stays in office, the larger the cluster of low energy that he is attracting. Like this man could really become Hitler-like, which makes the public's indifference all the more heartbreaking. It's like inviting a pedophile to babysit the children. It's that type of dynamic that we are seeing from America.

When I read into the energy of the nation. I get a picture of people that are asleep in the fields. Acres of land full of people that are sleeping. I don't think the energy of the country has changed. It remains incomparable with Trump's energy but it's like somo one has put them to sleep. It's people resting in their laurels not reacting fast enough to the attack on our own government: "Oh, it will sort itself out. We have laws."

I think this is why the Michael energy is here at this time, this is not the time for America to rest in its laurels. Wake up bitch! It's time to go fight the good fight. Go volunteer, protest, get your ass up and go vote for Democrats.

It's frustrating to read on this because you can see the projection of Trump leaving office, yet the pressure from the people to cause his exit is not materializing. The energy is there, the opportunity is there, but the build up is not there... why is this event not coming together?

oracle I read that others are having trouble reading too but they think it is because things are so chaotic. Too many still in the race and then you have......Trump. you are not alone.

[quote] Far as I can tell, they're the first high profile gay/bi male couple that Oracle predicted would become commonplace. I still can't wrap my head around his prediction that gay/bi/queer men will outnumber str8 men though

Was my prediction about men only? I don't remember how I worded that prediction exactly, but going from memory I remember getting that Bisexuals would rival or equal the number of straight people. Now, I may have concentrated my efforts in reading on men more because as a man it would be easier for me to channel someone with my point of reference. No offense ladies, but clearly my attention would be around homosexuality in men.

It's bittersweet because my vision of how that projection would come to be was more... harmonious. I had raised a red flag on Transgender activism around 2006ish ( I want to say), but I never saw the raise of the modern Transgender and Queer activism, especially having a say so in the way the public perceives sexual orientation.

I don't know if this is how we get there, or if the modern Transgender & Queer activism is just an obstacle that pushes "this" projection further into the future.

The thing is that our generations will probably not know this, but the argument of nature vs. nurture will probably change as we continue to study the human body. Homosexuality is ingrained. It's a trait in men. Spirit says it's just a path that is forgotten. I agree with this to some degree. I don't think every person is gay, but I do think homosexuality is abundant in men.

One day we'll dedicate a group of readings on this subject.

[quote]oracle I read that others are having trouble reading too but they think it is because things are so chaotic. Too many still in the race and then you have......Trump. you are not alone.

I read on this in May of last year (I want to say it's part of the 6 part energy reading I did last year) back then I was told none of these "souls" had come here to become president. They were stepping up in real time. I mean they came here for this moment, as I feel most of us did as well. Unlike Hillary Clinton who came to this lifetime to become a leader, these souls are stepping up to fill the void left when Trump stole the election and became president.

Back in that reading, I was told around 5 of them had done the necessary work in this lifetime to fill that void, and it changed how I started reading on the election because I was aware there was around 5 different outcomes for the primary. If you notice on that reading and my most recent reading on the first stops of the primary I am reading on the energies of the candidates and not necessarily the outcome. I used to say no gay president or woman running for office would win 2020. It all changed after that reading. I still put Pete almost at the back of the pack, but since there is not a predestined candidate, I know he has as much of a shot as anyone of the top 5.

Pete would be a great VP for Warren. I think what he lacks is life experience. I question the authenticity of some of his words, not because he lacks empathy, but because he lacks experience with many topics. In many ways he is a child trying to play grownup. His brilliance is quite scary, in a good way, that little mind of his is always working.

However, there is something there that prevents him from embracing his full humanity (the best way I can describe it) and it has always seemed like a trauma of some sort. Every human has a demon, and this guy has something. There is something there. Is there abuse in his past and that person is no longer here? He lost a loved in a traumatic way? A trauma or someone is not allowing him to fully embrace himself. It's like he is beholden to this memory/person.

One thing is for sure, any of the Democratic candidates would be better presidents than what we currently have. We have had presidents with serious hang ups without the government falling apart. Bill Clinton has sexual abuse in his past and was a bit of a sex freak, Obama fostered racist feelings towards Hispanics, Reagan was mentally absent half of the time, etc, etc,

Btw, when I said "Bill Clinton has sexual abuse in his past," I meant as a child he was sexually abused, not that he abused some other.

Hmm.

Remember when we used to read on Cory Booker when he was a freshman Senator...

never NEVER doubt our gaydar. It's all good. Come out come out of the closet Cory. It's nice and cozy where we are...

I can’t shake the feeling we’ve abruptly jumped to another timeline. I even keep dreaming about it. It’s disconcerting and I feel very off balance.

Well, I hope it's a better timeline, r518.

Bloomberg is really setting off my spider-sense. I actually get really anxious looking at a photograph of him. I hope I'm wrong, because he's on one of the more likely possibility tracks. I don't care for Bernie much, but I'd rather him, especially if he picks a good VP.

Thoughts?

You do realize that the mayor of NYC is historically held hostage by the wants, desires and goals of the NYPD and their union, right? That's why I can't fault him for the stop and frisk shit that he has since disavowed.

R520 is 100% correct. I don’t get a bad vibe from Bloomberg I get the underlying evil/selfishness vibe from Bernie. There is something disingenuous about him.

I get a very bad vibe from Bernie too. And yes, r520 is right. And remember, NYC Republicans in Bloomberg’s time were pretty much social liberals. And I give him props for recognizing the rot that’s taken over the Republican Party and switching to the Dems.

A serious question: wasn’t the year of the metal rat supposed to usher in a period of prosperity, albeit governed by a sense of thrift and pragmatism? I can’t square that with the general feeling of the end times we’re experiencing.

I think if Bloomberg chose wisely for a VP, we could see things turn around positively, especially gaining back the senate

The trouble is that Bernie's strategy is working, at least on the dems. He's consistently rated as the most honest and trustworthy among all his opponents even as he condones his surrogates' and supporters' attacks. He gets to bash others about billionaire donations while his associated superpacs use anonymous unlimited donations to astroturf at rivals' events and online. If the campaign had to run for ten years, he'd be exposed eventually, but with so little time left, the Trumpian tactics are very effective.

Clairvoyants of DL, what does Pete need to do to get over the his trauma? Conventional therapy or something more?

^ the VP slot, r525.

This isn't so much a prediction as much as a gut feeling about tonight's debate. I was specifically looking at Klobuchar and Biden.

I think Klobuchar is going to be "stiff" tonight. She's going to try and appear calm, easy going, but she's shaken because of the bad press she got after the whole President of Mexico thing. I think she's going to suffer from "failure to connect", and will fade away into the background. This is probably her last stand.

As for Biden, I see him in a "What do I got to lose?" type mentality. He's going to try and go on the attack, but mostly he's going to look folksy doing it. It'll be a mixed message.

Neither of them will be listed as a "winner" by the pundits tomorrow. Again, this isn't as much a prediction as it is a gut feeling based on their energy that I'm picking up.

Spot on walterh @R527

Bernie is really starting to make me anxious

DL seers can someone read on Bernie’s health? He looked TERRIBLE last night. Is he going to remain healthy if he wins?

Barely better than poor Harry Reid, whose appearance shocked me!

r529 the next four months will tell whether he had something that disagreed with him last night, or if he will literally "drop out." I wonder if he's drinking Red Bull or other energy drinks.

r530 beat me to it!

I wouldn't be surprised (not an official prediction) if Bernie keels over by October if he ends up being the nominee solely due to his current health issues and the energy it takes to campaign for President.

r530 Harry Reid's had pancreatic cancer for awhile.

geez poor Hardy Reid, enjoy your good health while you have it peeps!

What do we think Bernie is hiding?

R535, his poor health. His face was so red last night, his undereye bags were purple. His blood pressure must have been skyrocketing. During every commercial break, he walked off stage probably to get some oxygen.

Let me prognosticate:

1) Our President will lose the election to a Democrat. Ha ha. 2) You will see more electric and autonomous cars on the roads by 2023.

Every time I looked into the election, I always saw the number "346" - so hopefully that's the number of electoral college votes that the Democrat gets.

February 13th? Wasn’t that Trump’s very bad astrological day?

R539, I understood that date to be the start of bad times for Trump, rather than a bad day.

R539, I understood that date to be the start of bad times for Trump, rather than a bad day.

Bernie, you in trouble, girl!

How so?

Russia is helping Bernie’s campaign WaPo reporting

[quote]Clairvoyants of DL, what does Pete need to do to get over the his trauma? Conventional therapy or something more?

He only needs a little self-belief and life experience. If he loses this election, which it's still up in the air, he is so young that there will be another opportunity in the near future. Understand, this is not due or die for him.

When you think about it, Pete already won. His balls are so massive that he made himself part of the conversation against everyone's expectations.

If he were to become president, and it is possible for the sole fact that he is part of the conversation, he has proven to us that he has a steady head. I wish he had more experience because it's going to be tough, but I also know that there will be brilliant men and women that will step up to help aid whoever becomes president. By no means do I think Pete would be a bad president if he becomes one.

[quote]Russia is helping Bernie’s campaign WaPo reporting

I am watching Chuck Todd and it is killing him report this news. News that, may I remind all of you, we all knew all along.

Poor Chuck, you could tell the second when his heart skipped a beat...

Should I assume that all of the Bernie Bros squawking it up this year, especially on the DL are Putin fans? Or are just the Bernie fans on DL certifiably paid trolls?

Chuck annoys the hell out of me

Thanks Oracle!

Re: Bernie, he just admitted to knowing about support from Russia this cycle about a month ago. Even if it comes out that he knew before that and didn't contact the feds, he could just say he assumed the feds already knew based on Russia's past support for him. He seems like a really good/sneaky politician with plausible deniability for all his dirty tricks.

I just flashed on Limbaugh, sitting back and planning his exit. I think he's planning on ODing when the pain gets too unbearable, but he's going to try and hide it. There will be telltale signs that it wasn't the cancer that took him out, and they will leak out after his death. When I asked when that might be, I got "June".

Didn’t they say that Roger Ailes actually committed suicide? It was hidden from the public and made to look like he fell, so I can see Limbaugh doing this.

Limpdick was always a sniveling coward.

I hope he gets to feel the full horror of the hate and fear he has manifested.

This may not be a popular opinion here, but I don't mind Bernie's Trump-lite tactics if he could actually beat Trump/whoever's the republican nominee and carry the most senate seats out of all the dem candidates. His biggest sin in my book is that even if he wins, he won't carry the most senate seats b/c he's a socialist. Seers of DL, which dem would carry the most senate seats and win against the rep nominee? I would support that person whoever it is.

So it seems like the trans-fronted, left-wing attack on science is real. Either that or this woman is very good at hiding her transphobia and pretending to be liberal and accepting. Any soul out there know who or what is behind this? Perhaps it's just one of those irrational phenomena that happens to humans, like financial bubbles?

Bernie is not electable, so people should be very concerned

Stop with the Bernie hate!

I think the potential of a coronavirus pandemic would derail Bernie’s ascendancy, anyway. Bloomberg would benefit, though,

What I find most sad about these predictions is zero talk of Warren, just like the media pretty much ignoring her despite her well thought out plans, wealth of experience, and the fact that she is in support of taxing the rich and holding corporations accountable. She’s not as extreme in her tactics or views as Bernie and has way more experience than Pete. Is this just sexism all over again torpedoing the female candidates?

No, it’s just that she didn’t connect with enough people. And her attacks on Bloomberg appear to be turning off some people inclined to listen to her. She’s done.

She doesn't have the interest and probably will run out of money at some point, just like Biden

Supposedly some bad oppo stuff coming for Bernie - any read on SC or the debates?

Adding my 2 cents to try to get new info. Please?

DL Seers: Any feelings about the SC and Super Tuesday results?

Who will leave next?

Why is Tom Steyer still in this? Ego? He seems like his heart is in the right place but it is not going to happen.

Also any Coronavirus thoughts for the US? Seems like our shitty orange leader has left us woefully unprepared.

First off, to the people that say, "You're ignoring X" and such - if you would just read upward, you might find it. I think the last reading on Warren was either in the top of this thread or the previous one. Same thing with Covid-2019 (Coronavirus) R564. Actually, the map is very much like I mentioned it up in R335 is panning out; the large swath of Europe that I said was missed is there (Eastern Europe has zero cases) though there are a few in Western Europe. It looks like it's progressed into Africa, and if I'm right, will continue on into Central Africa.

Personally, I'm worried about my prediction in the US, especially after the Trump administration (against CDC orders) okayed putting 14 symptomatic people on two planeloads of passengers being evacuated from Asia. I said it would start in the Pacific Northwest, then make the way down into Las Vegas/Phoenix. After I made that prediction, my husband found out he was going on a business trip - to Las Vegas. He leaves in a few days and will be gone a week.

After Super Tuesday, and this is more gut than prediction, Klobuchar, Steyer, and Warren will drop out (which negates my previous thought that Warren was going to get the nomination and the Presidency. As oracle has said, this race is very much in flux). My gut tells me Pete will stay in since he has delegates, but I've gotten conflicting messages; I keep hearing him in my head, sometimes saying "It's not our time" and "This is our time." I'm close to Pete emotionally since he's my guy, so I think that colors my thoughts. I also think that Bernie is going to have another health scare during the campaign, though he'll try and shake it off. He'll do well on Super Tuesday, but not at the following primaries.

More gut feeling is that we'll go to a convention with Bloomberg, Biden, Buttigieg, and Sanders with delegates, and nobody will have a majority of delegates on the first ballot. Everyone will coalesce around a candidate in the second ballot when the Super Delegates vote - and we'll have a candidate. Again, this is in flux.

The map I mentioned in R565

If you've just stumbled on this thread, please read the whole thread as most of your questions have already been answered, as Walter has stated.

The people who do readings also have jobs, families and other obligations and aren't on demand.

I understand you're scared and anxious. There are at least two readings on the carona virus within the last 150 replies.

Take the normal precautions you would with the flu - wash your hands, cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze. Use hand sanitizer if you can't wash your hands.

Take care of yourself! Eat your vegetables! Get enough sleep. Take your medicine if you are on medication. Drink enough water and get outside for a few minutes every day.

Be smart. You know all of this stuff from kindergarten and your mom/dad. Start living it

Donald Trump's political career is going STRAIGHT DOWN THE SHITTER in 2020!

This is a better map, r566

R565, Romania has reported its first case and so has Croatia. Eastern Europe will be decimated by Coronavirus.

Thanks, R569!

r554 Showerthought: wait, so does this mean we'll be seeing a rash of lawsuits against therapists and doctors who let kids transition too early in 10-20 years?

I’ve been wondering if Oracle’s warnings about avoiding large groups and saving money are not about shootings but rather the coronavirus.

R573 i think you are spot on!

When will Putin be taken out?

I treated that question as an "instant read" like I did with previous questions, and got 2023, R575.

And now we wait...

Collectively, it sounds like Bernie could have a medical event soon or something in his medical records gets leaked...

R577 Definitely before the general election; that's the feeling I've always had. And if you look at his schedule, he's doing half a dozen events per day, sometimes in multiple states (I think I saw that somewhere on DL). A 78 year old isn't able to keep that up indefinitely.

Coronavirus is probably a real threat for those older Dem candidates, because while its kill rate is low, its infection rate just zooms once it gets a toehold anywhere. They can't stop being in crowds, shaking hands, etc -- and they're in the demographic where it is most likely to be severe or even fatal. Germaphobe Trump will probably be fine, as he always is in relation to everything that would take down a normal human.

The predictions that it will be "one wave" may reflect the early finding of a vaccine, since labs all over the world are vying to be the winner. It takes months to test one, but with any luck at all there'll be one by next Northern winter. (Think of the $$ it's worth and you can foresee the speed with which it'll get found.) If infections back off during the summer the US might catch a break, but it's too early to tell that.

We've crossed the 3k benchmark, it's time for an update on Coronavirus.

Because our own federal government is inept, honestly they do not care about us, we have to take it upon ourselves to fight coronavirus. Call your state level and city officials to see what they are doing to prevent the spread of Coronavirus. Pressure your governors and state assemblies. At the state level, it is were the most is going to be done to fight the spread of Coronavirus.

I do not see the West being ravaged like Asia, oddly enough spirit tells me that our own diet (as toxic as it is) may actually lessen the severity of the Coronavirus. There is a resistance in our bodies for example that the Chinese might not have. Thank you Monsanto, for once you are useful.

Remember to avoid large public gatherings I would say for about 2 years. It's alright. It'll be fine, for most of us.

Yes, there might be people put under observation.

Yes, some people with vulnerable immune systems will be hit hard, some will die.

Yes, most of us will get it (we might never find out we have it though) because we might experience very light symptoms.

Eat healthy, exercise, drink a lot of water, go outdoors where there is enough space in between people and get some sunshine.

If you want to go out: visit the coastline, large park areas, be around plants. AVOID confined spaces were there are a lot of people [bold]ESPECIALLY[/bold] if you have elderly relatives or children.

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Make sure you add this to your diet for the next 2 years.

1. Citrus/Citrus juice, honey, and salt. Consume it everyday.

2. Vitamin C,D, and B (of any variety) everyday.

3. Chamomile with honey at night.

4. Start juicing roots. Imagine that you are on a diet. A great way to exercise discipline.

6. Chicken Soups, broths like Vietnamese soups, or clear liquid soups.

I have touch on these before, there is something with aromatherapy. Buy plants that you can keep indoors or close to your windows. Jasmine, Lilacs, lavender, etc... Plants are great filters of patogens. Those that produce strong aromas produce some sort of chemical reaction in our bodies that stimulate our immune system. They help us absorb Sunshine much better. You want to take in all the Vitamin D and B you can.

This forums is supposed to be 18+ so I am assuming we are all adults here. Pheromones are a great way to strengthen the imune system. Women produced the most pheromones in their neck area. Men produce larger amounts of pheromones through the prostate.

If you are a woman, massage your neck area (back and front) every night. Make this a routine. Some people use quartz rollers, the old ladies were doing this before it became a thing.

If you are a man, well I don't think I need to tell you how to massage your prostate. Fingering yourself, what a great addition to jerking off. Right?

BUY water filter, those that attach to your water faucet. Anyone can install them. They are like 25- 40 dollars at most. PUR and Brita are the most common brands.

Also, I think we all know we are in a recession already. It doesn't matter if the government ever makes it official. I hope you saved. It's not as bad as 2008, we are recession tested. Be with family or friends. Vote, help others vote (give them rides, remind family members to go vote).

Coronavirus will not be the only health scare this decade. It goes without saying the warm weather is awaking dormant bacteria. It's alright, eventually most of us will develop immunity to this new batch of viruses. Eat healthy, drink as much water and juices as you can. Eat soups and broths. Incorporate honey into your diet. Men go to town with your prostates. Uncle Oracle tells you it's alright.

Don't smell cookies, smell flowers instead.

What does go to town with your prostrate mean?

R582 use your imagination dear. Did you mean to come to this website?

You won't get this until a year or two from now...still you must be prepared.

I have said in various readings that the biggest heartbreak of the Trump years was finding out that people hate you. I'm not talking about hating a concept or an idea. I am talking about others hating you specifically. "You," the individual. [Bold]At this moment[/bold], there are people that pray that you die. As we transition out of the Trump years, and we are even if it doesn't look that way at this moment, the biggest sacrifice you will have to do is to put aside the knowledge of what [you know] was attempted against you. It will hurt like hell to know that it has to be you [the intended target] who has to meet the other side in the middle, yet you will have to do it in order for the country to move on. You want your country to move out from where we are at this moment. Do it for your love ones.

Think of it as a deed you must do in order to secure a better future for those you love and for yourself.

In older readings I used to see the US broken into many smaller governments, states lumped together, similar to territories. Think of the UK, territories under one umbrella. However, even though Spirit was telling me this process would happen harmoniously and for our benefit, I could not envision a situation in which a split could happen amicably. It made no sense. A separation takes place because you are not happy. It's the definition of not being happy.

Now having lived through a Trump administration. I get it. It's bittersweet to think about it, but I get it.

R584 I'm beginning to suspect you are Russian trolling. This isn't the USSR. We raised ourselves and our children to pledge allegiance to the flag, drilled it into their heads.

As much as I hate Texas, over my dead body are we breaking up. You can break up the USA when you pry my gun from my cold dead hands. I don't have a gun but that's how alot of people feel.

We're not the USSR, and I don't believe someone is who they purport to be just because they speak English. Nice try though, Boris! ;)

oracle at r584, who would be actively praying that a nobody would die? Are you saying this is not something we will understand until a few years from now? Thank you!

At the risk of brining down the crazies, I have to say that sanders is not well AT ALL.

He has some serious health issues he is hiding and that scares me.

Dude needs to chill and take his doctor's advice before he ends up back in the hospital.

It's March. Where are you Karma????!!!!!

I’m feeling March 15-17 is a turning point for many things

My Sunday is complete now that Oracle has directed me to finger myself!

So the Covid-19 sprinkling in the Pacific Northwest started a few weeks ago. And I know it's in Oregon because the new unexplained "community acquired" case is a school worker in my county.

Does anyone watch that Cash guy on his Not Quite Science Youtube channel? he seems gay but he has a habit of saying all the rightwingers are going to end up free and happy(except Trump and Barr)but is always predicting bad things for Democrats.

Since we're almost at 600 (and only on March 1st)

Yes, r592, I do. I like him.

I think he only sees a few months or so in the future that's why all of these shit stains appear to be getting away Scott free.

If you go back and look at some of his earlier videos, that seems to be the case that his pictures change over 2-3 months.

He tends to see the "now" and near future, IMO. So don't get upset because he sees the scumbags not being caught. It just means they are getting away with it FOR NOW.

I know Pete just dropped out but I have an image of him and Biden standing together like they're friends. Bernie is many feet behind, by himself and doesn't look happy.

Good, I despise Bernie

A bear stock market.

R595, on the debate stage, they always seemed very gracious and respectful towards each other. I sensed great affection between them. Pete may have seen him as a father figure and Joe may have seen his late son, Beau, in Pete.

R587 I am a psychic, medium, Empath + healer. Bernie just had an overhaul w/ a stent. Millions have had this procedure. He has more energy than most. I see him winning the Presidency.

R599, Can I ask you answer a personal question for me? I had an intense relationship for about a year. Due to the distance between us, we no longer see each other and have grown apart. I still would like to see him occasionally and chat on the phone or text. Do you see that happening any time soon?