Impeachment Hearings: Day 5 - pt 1

David Holmes looks a cleaned up version of Jeffrey Dahmer.

msnbc contributor historian meacham is on saying "is this what the republicans want to be remembered for"...

newsflash: they don't care, because they are COUNTING on the american public not remembering any of this in a year! much less the rest of their history! even if they run for office again i might add.

counting on american apathy, ignorance, lazy, too busy, carrying about their own lives and so on to remember how so and so republican stood up for, stood with and lied for trump...

We've got this. Let's go!

CNN says Fiona Hill as warned the GOP not to use the hearing to promote false Russian conspiracy narratives. She's expected to address that directly. Good for her.

R1, Yes! I was just going to post the same observation.

Ukrainian conspiracies, not Russian.

From Fiona Hill's opening statement:

“Based on questions and statements I have heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country—and that perhaps, somehow, for some reason, Ukraine did. This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.”

oh boy I think this is going to be a good one

R1 and r5, I was thinking that Holmes looked more like the actor Joel Kinnaman.

Schiff is giving an opening statement. Rehashing the chain of events that brought us here.

NBC News--- JUST IN: Fiona Hill expected to tell Congress that partisan politics drove a "fictional" narrative on Ukraine

Nunes will go ballistic when a renowned expert on Russia disputes the GOP and POTUS' conspiracy theories and false distractions to his face.

This should be good!

I want to see Hill go off on Nunes

She (and we) must be crystal clear in defining Russian-driven/based conspiracy theories and their motives, targets and effects.

Confusion lies in the distinction between Russian conspiracy theories and Ukrainian conspiracy theories. (And, I might add, Republican lies.)

R6 meaning the Russian-promoted conspiracy theory that Ukraine is engineering election interference, Burisma/Biden investigations and DNC server nonsense.

POTUS, GOP, and Russia are spewing the same falsehoods for a mutually beneficial electoral outcome.

In other words, Hill is going to say that Trump, Nunes, et al. got totally played by the Russians. Yes!

Nunes continuing his lies again

Shouldn't these two people have testified before Sondland?

Nunes talking about credibility? lmao

He's saying "it's not Trump who got caught-it's the Democrats!"

he's rambling they got caught making up lies about Trump. OMFG he's damn pathetic

R17 no one knew which way Sondland would go until his opening statement was handed out. Too risky to go last

Nude photos!

More nude photos!

More Chalupa!

Nunes is back on the nude tRump photos. Ughhhhhh.

Chalupa! Bingo!

Nunes talking about the Democrats getting caught is a classic case of projection.

this is infuriating

he's talking about "long lasting damage" Democrats have caused

why is this allowed? Why is he allowed to lie in a hearing?

The wounds to the country and our democracy come from the Rethugs.

Drop the Chalupa!

I know it would quickly devolve into chaos, but I really wish it was possible to sue congresspeople for slanders they utter in the course of their jobs.

How can Nunes swallow his pride and say these things that he knows are lies. I honestly do not understand a person like that. Seriously, how does he sleep at night?

Nunes caught working with Lev Parnas

Nunes has a secret deal with Taco Bell. $1000 every time he utters "Chalupa."

These two poor witnesses were just approached by Nunes' fat fuck.

I'm with you, R29. The alternate reality pushed by the rePubs is both nauseating and dangerous to our country.

Yet Nunes is launching lawsuits against a cartoon cow over a parody account on Twitter (Devin Nunes' Cow). It's political fucking satire. The unmitigated gall of that mess.

How original Nunes's opening. Clearly he got his "inspiration" from Adam Schiff's powerful and impacting closing of yesterday.

And, what nude photos is he talking about?

This?

Hill looks like she is going to rip Nunes and other questioners a new.

Holmes has a sharp face that also smells many cookies.

It's like they're all Satanists. I don't get it. How can they sell out this country and lie to this country and then do such theater.

I swear that a while back Maddow did a whole story about how close Nunes was with the Russians. This would have been years ago.

[quote]It's like they're all Satanists. I don't get it. How can they sell out this country and lie to this country and then do such theater.

Tax cuts and Judges.

[quote]Schiff is giving an opening statement. Rehashing the chain of events that brought us here.

It's a good tactic that he repeats the facts (with some variations relative to the specific witnesses) at the top of the hearings. Drill it into the heads of the public.

I hope that Dr. Hill destroys Nunes, Ratcliffe, Conaway, Jordan, and Stefanik to absolutely nothing. I want her to be like an E5 tornado that kills nearly everyone. GOP deserves to be in a tornado anyhow.

R38 Nunes was part of the Trump transition team and has some type of relationship with Flynn

I'm shocked Nunes hasn't been arrested

TRump is fuming that Sondland testified tRump talks loud and everyone can hear his phone calls. He's been stewing for 24 hrs. He just tweeted this gobbledygook------

DJT: "I have been watching people making phone calls my entire life. My hearing is, and has been, great. Never have I been watching a person making a call, which was not on speakerphone, and been able to hear or understand a conversation. I’ve even tried, but to no avail. Try it live!"

[quote] [R17] no one knew which way Sondland would go until his opening statement was handed out. Too risky to go last

These two people are going to testifying primarily about what Sondland had said or done, having them testify before Sondland would further box him to tell the truth and since Sondland has so much difficulty remembering what he has said and done, these two would refresh his memory.

Joel Kinnaman as Holmes in the Impeachment movie.

Felicity Huffman in an image rehabilitating role as Fiona Hill.

No way is Trump's ass that small. Hopefully they make his cock quite small though.

I can always hear someone cell phone conversation, especially in restaurants. The volume IS that loud on both ends!

[quote]Never have I been watching a person making a call, which was not on speakerphone, and been able to hear or understand a conversation.

Too bad for Cheeto that Sondland confirmed VERY specific details about the call that Holmes described, like the rapper detained in Sweden. Holmes didn't imagine or invent that, did he.

ooh dropping Giuliani's name again

let's hope Rudy gets indicted in the next month

r44 When I get calls I hold my phone a foot or so from my face. It's not on speakerphone and I can hear everything just as if it was. I can only imagine how loud it is when President blowhard is on the other end of the call.

Holmes is doing a great job of providing important context, supporting Yovanovitch, and further throwing Giuliani under the bus.

R44, R51, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I can hold my iPhone away from my face and still hear what the person is saying. Never have I not been able to do so, so Cheetos Puff is lying as usual. I can't wait for the CNN special where they destroy all his lies on TV.

Anyways, Holmes is dropping names...when you drop names like the former people, that makes their testimony boxed in for almost good. Sondland got back on the plane to Brussels because he knows he didn't tell everything and knew that today would potentially make him look bad.

Yes! Throw Perry under the bus, too!!!!!!

The chain gang should be reinstituted for errant public servants. Imagine driving through some backwoods town and coming across the sight of Devin Nunes scraping up road kill.

Not that I'd recommend torturing yourself but if you want to read Devin's opening lies and propaganda, the link to this bullshit is attached. I'm only posting it so you can see in writing how fucking delusional he is.

JAY LENO THAT FUCKER

Good on Holmes busting out the 'colorful language' quotes by Sondland - yesterday Sondland admitted that's how he talks.

Great comprehensive opening statement so far...and in such contrast to the delusional, juvenile opening statement made by Nunes.

is Jay Leno a repub?

I always hated Jay Leno. He was never, ever funny.

I love how Holmes keeps on using the term "Three Amigos," just to punctuate how fucking ridiculous that diplomatic channel was.

Zelinsky is a comedian...he probably asked to meet Leno in Brussels....like celebrities attending State Dinners at the White House.

What did he say about Jay Leno??

Holmes is not going to separate Burisma and Biden. Good.

DAMN! He said that a GOP rep was there too! Now Stefanik can't accuse him of lying without lying herself. Maybe he did that so she would have to resign like Katie Hill did (which was so sad to me).

R63, he picked the wrong comedian then, haha...Jay Leno ain't that funny because if he was, he'd still be on The Tonight Show or have his own show like Conan does.

R66 Stefanik will spin it to say how helpful and supportive the Trump admin is of Ukraine

Leno is supposedly a "hero" to Z. Speaks volumes about Z.

I don't see how any Eastern European would find Jay Leno funny or understand his attempts at humor. I thought they were very dry, not Bozo the Clown types.

R64

"Ambassador Sondland hosted a dinner in President Zelenskyy’s honor... Jared Kushner, Secretary Pompeo’s counselor Ulrich Brechbuhl, senior European Union officials, and comedian Jay Leno, among others."

Zelensky is a huge fan of Leno and even called him a hero. IIRC Leno is a Democrat.

Imagine heading to the public restroom at a national park and seeing Jay Leno cleaning the toilets with a toothbrush, per R55's chain gang.

CBS NEWS

"The barrage of allegations directed at ambassador Yovanovitch, a career ambassador, is unlike anything I’ve seen in my professional career," said Holmes on ousted ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.

R68, she'd better not with him. He [Holmes] looks like he would give you an answer that cuts you like a bitch. Hell, he's cursing a little, so I don't see why he won't use his charm, wit, and sassiness - he looks like that kind of guy.

Holmes is dropping bombs, y'all...I know the pundits are going nuts right now!

so Trump is often grumpy in the morning? lmao

Holmes is spilling ALL the tea. That ASAP Rocky shit was unbelievable!

For someone who didn't want to testify, Holmes is absolutely nailing it.

Late turning this on. Holmes looks better in photos.

Holmes with the ding that Cheeto doesn't know where Kyiv is, so Sondland has to confirm "Ukraine".

ABC NEWS

David Holmes: In March 2019, "our support for Ukrainian democratic resistance to Russian aggression became overshadowed by a political agenda promoted by...Rudy Giuliani and a cadre of officials operating with a direct channel to the White House.

not surprised Sondland said "Asap Rocky should play the race card" regarding his arrest in Sweden

Sondland seems like he'd be a racist but one who doesn't think he is a racist

Just tuned in - so is Holmes on first, then Hill?

Who cares what Holmes looks like? Listen to what he is saying.

Holmes seems like family to me - has this been discussed? We'll wait for Mahoney's questioning and watch him blush.

MANU RAJU, CNN

Holmes does not back away from his past testimony - and says clearly that Sondland told him that - after his July call with Trump - that the president only cares about the “Biden investigation.” This contradicts Sondland testimony that he didn’t say “Biden”. <===

Hill is sitting right next to Holmes r83; she goes next.

I really thought Holmes would only testify about the call, but he's already talking for 30min now. Haha.

Holmes is a great witness; so far.

[quote]Who cares what Holmes looks like? Listen to what he is saying.

Hon, some of us can do both.

In other news...

Holmes' haircut is flawless.

r85, could be. He's not wearing a wedding ring, but again, that doesn't necessarily prove anything.

His jacket is nice; I like the texture.

Once again MAJOR KUDOS to the whistle blower!

Imagine the damage that would have happened if Zelensky had actually gone forward the CNN interview announcing an investigation into Biden

it would have severely damaged our bipartisan support of Ukraine and destroyed Biden's campaign

He has done a fantastic job. Very clear, very knowledgeable, and very pissed off about tRump’s indifference to his real job.

r76, especially lately. lol

He's wrapping up with an appeal for solidarity with the Ukrainian people. I'm struck how dedicated the career professionals are towards Ukraine.

Dr. Hill is up!

Fox "News" will attack Fiona Hill for being British

Ok, what's with the dialect?

R97 that just shows that he has an Agenda! He's not a credible witness! Hillary obviously threatened him!

Fiona HIll is British; I like her accent.

Ruth Wilson as Fiona Hill

My mistake; she's a naturalized citizen now.

Right wingers are going to be: why should we listen to this FOREIGNER?!

Ruth Wilson as Fiona Hill

Is Dr. Hill British? What country does that accent come from? And before you start thinking crazy - I like it, haha. I just wanna know where it's from.

If she was going to do the dialect, couldn't they have sent Michelle Dockery in her place?

r94, re

"Imagine the damage that would have happened if Zelensky had actually gone forward the CNN interview announcing an investigation into Biden"

IMO, that's what happened in 2016 when Comey announced, just a few weeks before the election, that the FBI was re-opening investigations of Clinton emails. Same playbook.

They went to the same school! This is obviously a setup! They've been planning this for years!

^ She just said she's from northeast England R106. What a great accent!

Can I have some Nonpartisaaan sprinkled on my pasta?

r106, as Dr. HIll has already explained, she grew up in England.

Even a 'working class' British accent sounds classier than the most posh American.

I can just imagine ignorant Laura Ingraham making fun of Hill being British

R109, can you go stand on the nearest freeway and wait for an 18-wheeler?

r106 Bishop Auckland, in northern England. Ask the Brits more about that. I just wiki'ed it so only repeating crap.

YES in her opener Fiona Hill is once again saying it was Russia, not Ukraine that interfered

this is going to be good folks

Nunes get to sweating and shaking you piece of shit

I'm sure R109 was being snarky.

r94, and you better believe that that was Trump's goal.

Do we have any further doubt who Trump fears facing the most in the general election next year?

She sounds like someone who came from the North and worked hard to sound more posh.

It's nice the way she's acknowledged Holmes twice now. It puts them both on equal footing.

She is destroying Nunes talking points, I love it.

Hill just drew a line in the sand about the committee NOT using her as a political football. She's ready to rock and roll.

R115 = Hillary driving an 18-Wheeler!!!!

damn I wish the camera could have shown Nunes' face

The testimony of knowledgeable, dedicated, patriotic people like Holmes, Hill, Yovanovitch, Vindman, etc. just makes it all the more sad what an utter, disastrous fuckup Trump and his cohorts are. And may all his enablers -- Nunes, Gym Jordan, McConnell, et al. -- go straight to fucking hell.

So if Nunes had balls she just kicked him in them.

Probably one of the few times those words have ever been uttered, R125.

Russia screwed with the 2016 election "BEYOND DISPUTE". I like Fiona.

Nanny will not stand for any nonsense from Nonads. He should proceed very carefully.

[italic]This[/italic]is going to be [italic]extremely[/italic] entertaining.

R113 is deaf. Her face and accent are making my eyes hurt and my ears bleed.

Not that she’s not brilliant, but she’s hard to look at and that accent is hell. She looks mtf.

Stan Laurel was from Bishop Auckland.

r129, I like her too; she seems very pleasant but will cut you like a bitch if you cross her or piss her off.

I wonder if Putin will tell Trump to tweet attacks against Hill now

It's people like Hill and Holmes that reinforce what an idiot and asshole Sondland is. If he has any iota of self awareness then he'd be embarrassed about his performance yesterday.

r135, but you know he doesn't.

Ranking Member Nunes: Some questions. Is this William Hill a relative and a communist and why do you hate America and what are you so mean and are you Hillary Clinton in a latex mask. I yield.

[quote] damn I wish the camera could have shown Nunes' face

it probably looked something like this.

Dr. Hill is excellent, explaining that the Russian goal was to de-legitimize whoever had been elected president, whether it had been Clinton or Trump.

She is really burnishing her nonpartisaaan bonafides...

this is the first time I'm actually looking forward to Nunes asking questions haha

She is speaking compellingly to the fact the Russians would have sought to sow dissent regardless who was or is elected in the US. She's not afraid to call out Republicans if appropriate but is still professionally non-partisan in these first few minutes.

R137 you forgot:

WE NEED TO KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER.

SCHIFF KNOWS THE IDENTITY AND HAS BEEN KEEPING IT FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE THE WHISTLEBLOWER IS HILLARY CLINTON!!!!

If I didn't like dick so much, I'd ask Fiona Hill to marry me.

Dr. Hill, briskly: No, Mr. Chairman, I don't need to leave for lunch, thank you.

I'm having him.

Funny I hear the same accent in Fiona Hill as I do in the Queen.

No, R146.

Homes and Hill are legit! Nunes is going to look like a fool going up against them, especially Hill

Sondland and Trump chatting about that rapper: “just play the racism card then give him a tickertape parade when he’s released.”

Gross.

Set your timepieces: "Ranking Member Nunes it's 'Doctor' Hill, please."

These two are what truth sounds like.

CBS NEWS

Holmes says Gordon Sondland recommended President Trump to not interfere and to let A$AP Rocky, who was then jailed in Sweden, "be sentenced, play the racism card, give him a ticker tape when he comes home."

~~Bribery, Extortion, Quid Pro Quo, with a generous dose of racism.~~

I think a holiday in a warm, sunny clim and some highlights would suit Mr. Holmes *very* well.

R135, on NPR earlier this week, they ran a report that pretty much stated that Sondland was way out of his depth in the local politics of Portland, Oregon. This was in Portland fucking Oregon. And here he was, thinking he could be a diplomatic player and deal with pros in the Ukraine and Russia. LMFAO!

WINCED AND HELD THE PHONE AWAY FROM HIS EAR!!!!! OOOOOOH NNNNNNNOOOO!

LOL

Holmes takes notes... lol. Sondland hates notes!

Holmes is like someone delivering the goss!

[Quote]Homes and Hill are legit! Nunes is going to look like a fool going up against them, especially Hill

He will undoubtedly bring up Hunter Biden and ask if it was inappropriate for Burisma to pay him $50k and some other bullshit like did YOU hear Trump say quid pro quo. He'll have to agree or say no and boom, Fox and the the Repubs have their sound bites again. The rest is irrelevant.

Fox News is going to have a field day with Holmes tonight! They're probably trawling every bath house in D.C. trying to find someone who's had him! There's no way they're not going to tear him apart and implicate homosexuality - look what they did to Vindman! It's on.

It's very adorable how Holmes holds his hand up to his ear to mimic a phone when he's talking about Sondland calling Trump.

R154 - don't forget the E.U., which was actually his brief. During Brexit!

Sound bite troll is tiresome. Why so cynical?

Holmes testifies to Goldman he heard tRump ask for the investigation on the infamous restaurant cell call. He says Sondland told him tRump doesn't give a shit about Ukraine. Only cares about "big stuff" like the Biden investigation. He says this was a pretty shocking and highly unusual experience.

The sound bite poster is concerned, very concerned, R162.

This attorney keeps getting names wrong. Like Sondland saying “he’ll do anything Zelinsky wants him to do” referring to Zelinsky doing anything TRUMP wants him to do. He was corrected on one of these but not this one.

Fiona Hill was hired by Michael Flynn and K. T. McFarland ( who is now a regular on Fox News) she is not going to be as pro Democrat talking points as we might suspect.

The sound bite poster literally posts the same shit every day about how Fox is going to spin everything and now they've got their soundbite.

And yes r164, they sound very, very concerned.

the "journalist" Holmes referred to (the one who helped Lutsenko spread lies about Yovanovitch) is none other than Jon Solomon, a new Fox "News" favorite in the prime time hours

It seems clear that Rudy is a Russian asset, a “useful fool.”

Latest from MANU @CNN

Not a perfect call, Fiona Hill says, confirming she was “shocked” and “disappointed” to read transcript of July 25 call. ... She also says based on what was happening: “It became clear that the WH meeting had become predicated on “other issues ... including investigations.”

“BESMIRCH!”

R166, Fiona Hill just has to be pro truth.

So Dr. Hill is a Kiwi (I don't mean that as a slur - I just don't know how you say someone is from New Zealand)?

These two are dropping tea like it's the Boston Tea Party...DAMN!

how ironic that Flynn who hired Hill ended up becoming a Russian asset himself

and McFarland not getting indicted was 1 of Mueller's worst moves

Dr. Hill said her accent is “very working class” and that would have prevented her from attaining the high level position she held if she had stayed in England. They’re still so classist there.

r173, she's from Northern England.

Did someone already ask Hill why she was concerned about Vindman's judgement and accused him of leaking?

R173 She’s from northern England and her accent is looked down at by the British, it’s considered “low class” there.

R177 not there yet

R176, R178, thank you kindly!

Anyhow, the Boston Harbor is Lipton Lemon flavored right now, LOL.

people in Ukraine knew Giuliani and Lutsenko were behind Yovanovitch's ouster wow

Thank you to the poster who identified the “sound byte troll.” I knew there was something odd about them always pop moving up with the same posts in each of these threads.

R169, if Giuliani is a "useful fool," then Sondland is at least one level lower than that, maybe the useful fool's useful fool?

R178 R173 I always think of the analogy the way a strong southern accent is thought of by the Coastals.

Google John Solomon and Nunes.......very interesting stuff going back to August:

Nunes praises John Solomon's reporting on impeachment inquiry, Biden-Ukraine controversy |

It's so nice to watch this with you all. Well, most of you. But I mean it sincerely.

R177 You can bet Gym Jordan will bring that up.

Don't be so concerned with those that are concerned.

Rick Perry gurl you in danger!

R173 R178 If you’ve ever seen the old “Upstairs Downstairs” series on PBS, the servants had the same accent Dr. Hill has.

hmm I'd like to hear more about this Cash Patel person

Yes, Burisma = Biden. Everyone knew that.

Sondland was a joker compared to the others who have testified, you can see why he and Trump got along

Molly Jong-Fast @MollyJongFast: Fiona Hill is explaining to Devin Nunes that he’s a moron.

Zac Petkanas @Zac_Petkanas: MUST WATCH: Fiona Hill SLAMS @DevinNunes and Republicans trafficking in the same wacky conspiracy theories being pushed by Russian intelligence to undermine the United States.

Cameron Joseph @cam_joseph: Like clockwork, @DevinNunes exits the hearing room as Dem counsel begins his questioning. (Just missed photo of him walking out the door)

shauna @goldengateblond: nothing in this universe is stronger than the self-control Adam Schiff exhibits whenever Devin Nunes speaks

Lutsenko was NOT investigating Burisma or Bidens at the time of his ouster!

most people are hearing that for the first time

Thank you, r188. The posts concerned about the soundbite poster 1) seem like the same person posting from multiple browsers and 2) are overly concerned about other opinions to the point it's annoying.

Kyle Griffin @ MSNBC tweets:

FIONA HILL: What Mr. Giuliani was saying was pretty explosive ... He was frequently on television making quite incendiary remarks ... He was clearly pushing forward issues and ideas that would probably come back to haunt us. And, in fact, I think that's where we are today.

R191, here's his Pinterest; get to know him!

Oh she does sometimes smile, I suppose when she is amused.

Yes, details of the "drug deal"!

Who is going to take Dr. Fiona Hill as their DL moniker?

Dr Hill is from county Durham which is in the north east of England and not too far from Scotland. For the poster who said she's trying to sound posh I disagree, she sounds like she's developed a bit of an American accent. Her vowels are still flat and northern which is the first thing that goes if a northerner tries to "poshify" their accent.

Almost time for Nunes now. 1 min left.

Trump puppet Congressman Mark Meadows with the grey hair and glasses is seated just to the left and behind Fiona Hill, he has reportedly been there for every minute of the impeachment hearings.

This is the first time that I'm actually looking forward to having the sound on for when the Rethugs get their turn.

hmm

Interesting that Holmes’s lawyer is my former boss, Ken Wainstein. Although he served as US Attorney in DC during Bu$h (and other DOJ jobs), I consider him Republican-lite. I haven’t spoken to him in a while, but I suspect that he is likely a never-tRumper — if indeed he still considers himself a Repub.

These two are top notch witnesses. The Republicans will not be able to "handle" them.

Loving Fiona Hill. She's pissed. She is not tolerating bullshit. She's honest.

CNN host: Holmes has impressive hair.

After this is anyone else worried about the outcome of the 2020 election?

Amelia Bullmore (e.g. Scott & Bailey) would also be great as Dr. Hill.

just an interesting angle-

MSNBC has hired Andrew Weissmann, 1 of the lead prosecutors on the Mueller probe and a frequent Fox "News" target. They were consistently trying to discredit and attack him during the investigation. I'm glad he's finally getting a chance to share his own opinions now

Manu @ CNN just tweeted this recapture:

“That’s when I saw Ambassador Bolton stiffen,” Fiona Hill says after Sondland was calling for “specific investigations” Ukrainians needed to launch before WH meeting. Bolton told Hill: “I want no part of whatever drug deal Mulvaney and Sondland are cooking up.”

Hill names former Nunes aide Kash Patel as the person she believes was the NSC official she was told Trump wanted to speak with about Ukraine even though Patel was not involved in Ukraine policy.

Such a difference between these career professionals and the clowns that Trump had working for him.

[QUOTE] Fox News is going to have a field day with Holmes tonight! They're probably trawling every bath house in D.C. trying to find someone who's had him! There's no way they're not going to tear him apart and implicate homosexuality - look what they did to Vindman! It's on.

There are really only two bathhouses left in D.C. - the Crew Club centrally located on 14th Street amidst some really nice restaurants and night life hotspots. And then Glorious Health & Amusement Club in Northeast near the new Eagle. Crew Club has half-off specials on Tuesdays and is very packed, especially Tuesday nights. Lots and lots of closeted, DL, married men come on Tuesdays.

The sling room is currently under construction, just FYI.

OK why would the NSC give anyone of Nunes' staff a job? Clearly those who work for Nunes are as untrustworthy as he he is

I'm looking forward to The Rat and Gym asking Fionna questions.

R177, did you miss the part where Vindman read from Hill's glowing performance review of him?

No wonder Sondland wanted to get the hell out of dodge yesterday and make his flight

FYI

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY

Trump hosting lunch with Romney, Collins — who declined to condemn House impeachment inquiry The two Republicans, along with Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, are the only three in the Senate who refused to join a resolution blasting the proceedings.

President Donald Trump invited Sens. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, and Susan Collins, R-Maine, and others to lunch at the White House on Thursday — breaking bread with Republicans who could go against him in a Senate impeachment trial.

Romney and Collins are two of only three Senate Republicans who declined to sign on as co-sponsors to a GOP resolution denouncing the House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, raising questions about how they would vote in a Senate trial to convict and remove Trump from office. The other Republican not to sign on is Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, another moderate vote who could break from the party.

Collins has said that it would be "inappropriate" for her "to reach conclusions about evidence or to comment on the proceedings in the House" because she will be expected to be essentially a juror once the Senate trial begins.

R221 I did not miss this at all. But why did she give him such a great review and then tells her colleague she had concerns about him. Isn't that weird? I would like to know why she had concerns about him, but never told him in person or in his review.

When I compare people that Trump himself actually has hired many of them come off as almost cartoonish, people like Rudy, Sondland, Barr, Rick Perry, Ben Carson. Yet most of these professional State Department people are quite impressive, seem quite intelligent.

Trump only hires fools because he always wants to be the "smartest" man in the room.

R221 We can surely expect the repugnants to somehow work in a few if not many scurrilous smears when they come back. Vindman is already under 24 hr security on a military base in anticipation of an increasingly hostil campaign to destroy his reputation if not him.

Things getting a bit testy on the CNN set.

Can we expect a Kash Patel subpoena?

Anyway to get Ron Johnson to testify?

Nunes should recuse himself if Patel was involved.

Whose the big fat asshole on CNN?

That is the reason I don't watch CNN much, they spend too much time screaming at each other and overtalking each over, it is totally non productive.

R228 Who is this bald repug guy and why do the always live in an alternate reality and spread conspiracy theories?

Not watching CNN, R228. What's happening?

R231, fat chance of that happening.

Did he recuse himself when he ran his fat ass tot he WH to spill all the shit he could spill?

isn't this the last public hearing unless 1 of the big names (Pence, Mulvaney, Bolton, Giuliani) agrees to testify?

I'd like to hear more about Patel though. The fact he was hired by Nunes gives me pause about his true intentions. The fact he went around his boss Fiona Hill to directly speak to Trump about Ukraine is "funny"

*previously hired by Nunes

[quote]Who is this bald repug guy and why do the always live in an alternate reality and spread conspiracy theories?

That would be Trump lickspittle David Urban, who is frustrating today's CNN panel with his obdurate refusal to accept reality.

think about how many witnesses have testified that they spoke to legal counsel following something odd happening. I remember at least Vindman, Morrison and now Hill all saying that. Possibly others too

So Trump's going to be impeached. He'll be exonerated in the Senate. But the Senate trial, with some of these same witnesses, with Chief Justice Roberts as presiding judge, will be high drama. I think Pence, Bolton, and Giuliani would have to testify.

another tidbit...Kash Patel is suing Politico over their report about his involvement in Trump's Ukraine dealings

so Hill would likely be called as a witness in that case too

Oliver Darcy who is chief media reporter at CNN brings up this little factoid about today's coverage at our favorite propaganda network:

"Worth pointing out: Judge Andrew Napolitano, who has been extremely critical of Trump, has been MIA from Fox's special team providing analysis of the impeachment hearings. The network is using Ken Starr and Andrew McCarthy, but not Napolitano, its senior judicial analyst."

[quote] why do the [repugs] always live in an alternate reality and spread conspiracy theories?

I wonder that too. Removing a symptom in the WH is not going to end their longterm disease. It's a wonder to me how the minority of Americans who do NOT as a matter of course believe more than six impossible things before breakfast stay sober working and dealing with repugs, beyond taking those rubes for their money.

I often like CNNs guests better than MSNBC but can't watch when they start telling and talking over each other. Truly unlistenable.

Having said that, it's interesting Dana Bash and her ex are seated next to each other

Fucking Cuomo... handing them that. Fucking ego on that asshole.

It is fun to watch him embarrassment though.

R242 maybe he's not featured in their peak hours but Napolitano was on with Neil Cavuto yesterday (the 4 PM hour) Cavuto is like Brett Baier-clearly repub partisan but not despicable like Hannity, Carlson, Ingraham, Pirro, Gutfield, Watters etc

So, Trump had multiple sources giving him the “Ukraine is evil” narrative—Giuliani and Nunes via Patel. Good tradecraft by Russia.

damn MORE info about Kash Patel!! He was 1 of the guys Nunes sent to stalk Christopher Steele on our taxpayer dollars!

R235 Nunes did recuse for awhile, didn’t he?

R235 Nunes did recuse for awhile, didn’t he?

"Kash misrepresented himself to cut Vindman out"

I want Democrats to investigate this but I don't know if they consider it significant enough. Personally I think it's a big deal that a former Nunes staffer is now corrupting the NSC and stepping above his actual job to talk to Trump

I love the fact that Fiona Hill said that pushing the narrative that Ukraine was behind the election interference in 2018 not Russia was pushing the narrative put out by Russian disinformation services which destroys one of the main GOP narratives. It makes the GOP look like Russian bots.

R243 Remember rose as a possible candidate in the Party through his drumbeat about Obama's birthplace. The Birthers were his fuel. Trump is the symptom of a serious disease in the American consciousness, not the cause.

Yeah, r245. Cuomo can be dumb sometimes. Calling an old woman is not the same as speaking with a loud man on a phone. He shpuld have called someone male and as loud as Trump. Not a soft-spoken, old woman. SMH

Dana Bash and John King are top notch professionals. Despite their divorce they work seemlessly together and, in fact, Dana will cover for John when he's off. They have a kid together.

John is from my hood as is Lawrence O'Donnell. We're really proud of them.

Ken Starr is a major asshole. I was watching him on Fox yesterday and after Sondland's opening statement and first round of questions he suggested that republican Senators could convince Trump to resign now. Today Trump quoted him that he thinks the evidence is no where to justify impeachment.

[quote]I often like CNNs guests better

I gave up on CNN long ago. I can barely even watch the clips on YouTube. The network does too many tricks to try to jump start ratings rather than report and discuss the news.

[quote]maybe he's not featured in their peak hours but Napolitano was on with Neil Cavuto yesterday

He also took the Fox & Friends crackpots to the woodshed this morning:

"The ambassador (Sondland) is not a never Trumper. He is not a Democrat. He’s not somebody wanting to disrupt. This is the guy who’s given a million dollars to the Republican Party and is the most important Trump-nominated ambassador in Europe. And he’s saying this is what happened.

“The president wanted an announcement about Burisma, he didn’t care if there was an investigation. He just wanted the announcement so he could use it. And we know that the money was held up for 55 days. The president didn’t tell me that, because the president doesn’t say those things.

“He communicates through Rudy. Because the president knows from years when he did that here — communicate through the lawyer — that there is no attorney-client privilege in impeachment. And that’s why Rudy won’t testify.”

Has Nunes prepared some poor jokes for today?

R253 Vindman said that too during his hearing but it got overlooked

here's Patel

Cow refers to Dr. Fiona Hill as "Miss Hill."

Nunes lacks arrows in his quiver.

Here's hoping Dr Hill will refer to him as "Miss Cow"

wow reportedly Nunes walked out of the room when Schiff and Goldman were questioning Hill...

Bibi Netanyahu has just been indicted on bribery and fraud!

Counting down to Cheeto being asked if he's gonna hold all military aid to Israel now.

Suranne Jones as Dr Hill.

Burisma = Emails=Benghazi= Birth Certificate.

As long as they ALL repeat the same lie, it becomes true until it's no longer useful.

Remember "Voter Fraud" and "Rev. Wright" and "Family Values" and ACORN. All served the need at the time.

Deny/Deflect/Accuse/Be a victim.

Anshel Pfeffer@AnshelPfeffer: Boom! And it's landed. 63 pages long. The State of Israel against Binyamin son of Benzion Netanyahu

The Associated Press@AP: BREAKING: Israeli Justice Ministry: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicted on fraud, breach of trust and bribery.

I have been anti Republican my whole life mainly because of their stance on social issues and the number of war hawks in that party, but I never before took them as traitors until recently. Can anyone explain why all of a sudden many in the Republican party would side with Russia and Putin over the interests of their own country. Not Trump, he is pretty transparent, I know he worships money and has been bought off by Russian money laundering, but those like Nunes, Meadows, Graham, why would anyone support Russia more than the US?

Hoping they come back soon, I'm gonna have to leave!

Damnit, once again the one time I wanted to actually watch the Rethugs questioning. Guess Ill have to watch the replays.

Republicans have convinced themselves they are the guardians of white, Christian morality. They are defending those ideals from extinction. So they can defend anything because the ends justify the means. We are baby killing, Satanists so of course, they might have to lie, cheat, steal in order to be us, the personification of evil. We clearly want to annihilate all white people, all straight people, all Christian people, all decency and ALL babies.

That’s their thinking.

Because, R271, they wanted tRump to undo everything that uppity Darkie did when he was in office.

Cut a repug, it bleeds racism.

[quote]Lutsenko was NOT investigating Burisma or Bidens at the time of his ouster!

This was Shulkin, corrupt prosecutor.

Lutsenko came after him, also corrupt, and was the guy who smeared Ambassador Yovanovic and pushed the conspiracies to Solomon and worked with Rudy. He was corrupt and trying to save his job and his own skin from prosecution from newly elected government of Zelensky.

^^^R274 speaks the truth. The painful truth.

[quote] Can anyone explain why all of a sudden many in the Republican party would side with Russia and Putin over the interests of their own country.

Tax cuts, Judges, and.... white supremacy.

Two quotes that I now love;

"The problem with the white male of this country is that the only way that they feel that they can help this country is to run it!"--Zerlina Maxwell

"We are now living in a period of where the white male is proclaiming that this land is HIS land."--Maya Wiley

[quote]Cut a repug, it bleeds racism.

Yup.

[quote]Nunes lacks arrows in his quiver.

Unfortunately, that has never stopped him before.

R225 Barr may be a lot of things but one thing he is not is “cartoonish.” He’s had a long and pretty distinguished career which makes it an even bigger mystery to me why he’s gone in with Trump and his clown cabal.

[quote]bigger mystery to me why he’s gone in with Trump and his clown cabal.

Money and white supremacy

[quote]Not Trump, he is pretty transparent, I know he worships money and has been bought off by Russian money laundering, but those like Nunes, Meadows, Graham, why would anyone support Russia more than the US?

Do you think those three you list do NOT worship money and have NOT been bought off by Russian money laundering?

This is R271, thanks for all your answers. My problem is the Republicans have been racist and wanting to protect the white race all my life, but they were also very patriotic and anti communist and anti any country who could threaten America and their way of life and privilege. That has changed, I just feel like something new has changed for them, but I don't get what it is. Yeah they hated Obama, but he is out of office, I just think there has to be something else, like Russia having dirt on them, or money for them, something has to have changed something more than Trump. Trump is a symptom not a cause in my opinion. Even beyond that why have so many rank and file Republicans become Russia supporters, Russia is not our friend, are they just gullible, power hungry or just traitors.

Add Catholic fanaticism to r281's list

Jake Tapper retweeted the following about Bibi Netanyahu and wondered aloud if tRump's anti-corruption crusade will extend to Israel.

"Israel's AG has decided tp press charges against PM Netanyahu for bribery, fraud and breach of trust...."

Umm, yes, he is, R280. Barr, quite literally, looks like a cartoon character. And the idea of him bumbling (Or waddling) around Europe, seeking back-up for debunked conspiracy theories makes him even moreso.

[quote] Russian disinformation services which destroys one of the main GOP narratives. It makes the GOP look like Russian bots.

Specifically Rudy, pushing Russian disinformation to the idiot Trump. He’s what the Russians call a useful idiot.

R266, Nunes probably had explosive diarrhea.

The GOP really should have stocked up on extra absorbent Depends prior to these proceedings

R280 Barr is the spitting image of Fred Flintstone.

At the end of the session yesterday, Adam Schiff mentioned something about subpoenas. Has there been any news or coverage about what they said? They cut the cameras as he was talking.

Netanyahu going down in flames today was the best news in years. Hopefully that takes down Jared and Whorevanka.

GOD I love the Democrats in these hearings. SCHIFF 2024. He's been a goddamn superhero with his round the clock bitchslapping of Nunes et al.

R280 and r286, on MSNBC, they were just discussing Barr and his ill-advised international quest to dig up dirt on our own intelligence agencies.

[quote](Republicans) were also very patriotic and anti communist and anti any country who could threaten America and their way of life and privilege

Republican lawmakers care about one thing: getting re-elected. They espoused the views above because it got them votes. Now, they get votes for supporting a mango menace who has betrayed virtually every principle Republicans professed to hold dear prior to 2016. There is no decency, integrity, character or loyalty to be found in today's Republican party.

R284 It's interesting that the Catholic fascist white supremacist thing has been lost a bit in identification of the influence and power of the Evangelicals. AG Barr, for example, a member of the crypto-fascist Opus Dei. And Russia, with its resurgent and corrupt (aligned to the Oligarchs) Orthodox Church, if ground zero for right wing "Christian" ethnic cleansing. The position of Russia on the map of American politics is completely different from 20, even 10 years ago.

R286 I was referring to who Barr is and his career, not how he looks. That’s just a superficial and silly argument.

R293, once Communism fell, there was no longer any ideological opposition to Russia. There was only money. Their oligarchs and our oligarchs were united in greed.

[quote]My problem is the Republicans have been racist and wanting to protect the white race all my life, but they were also very patriotic and anti communist and anti any country who could threaten America and their way of life and privilege. That has changed, I just feel like something new has changed for them, but I don't get what it is.

White folks are really beginning to see a reality that they will be a minority--sooner than they would like. One thing I would suggest that you do, (if you haven't do so already), is look at the history of this country during Reconstruction. Black folk holding elected offices in Congress is nothing new. Neither is getting them out and purifying the halls and walls either.

Have you heard the latest speaker from the Republican convention? Start at the 1:26 mark

Politico:

Trump appears to launch another real-time attack on an impeachment witness

Anyone who thinks Dump is the only repuke laundering money for Russian oligarchs is enviably naive.

Thanks, R298. But, you know I'm becoming tired of following what Trump does. He is what he is. Who I want to hammer are the Republicans that sit in silence while this mess named Trump just busts up everything.

From r298 link:

[quote]“I have been watching people making phone calls my entire life. My hearing is, and has been, great,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Never have I been watching a person making a call, which was not on speakerphone, and been able to hear or understand a conversation. I’ve even tried, but to no avail. Try it live!”

Further proof that no republican't has EVER ridden public transportation.

That's quite clear every time Nunes opens his mouth, R288.

[QUOTE] [R286] I was referring to who Barr is and his career, not how he looks. That’s just a superficial and silly argument.

My post addressed who he is, what he does, and also (as an added bonus) how he looks. All of which equal a cartoon.

I’d rather be “superficial” than possess subpar reading comprehension skills.

[quote]Yeah, [R245]. Cuomo can be dumb sometimes. Calling an old woman is not the same as speaking with a loud man on a phone. He shpuld have called someone male and as loud as Trump. Not a soft-spoken, old woman. SMH

He should have called Alec Baldwin. I loathe Baldwin but anything to give Trump a stroke.

Madam Speaker's take via ABC NEWS:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi says "the evidence is clear" Pres. Trump "has used his office for his own personal gain, and in doing so, undermined the national security of the United States."

"He has violated his oath of office."

Is this the last hearing?

R154 So Mr Sondland, what are your qualifications for the Ambassador to EU role? Sindland: well my sisters cousin ran a school canteen once, so I’ll be great!

Schiff was just seated. Reconvening soon? Cuomo thinks the Republicans are "gonna come out hot" for Fiona Hill. The talking head panel thinks they better watch out cuz she hits back. Both witnesses are now seated so let's see where this goes under the GOP attack dogs....

Nunes looks completely constipated.

lmfao Nunes' first questiosn asking if the 2 witnesses know Chalupa and the Ohrs

it's a conspiracy!!!! Hill knows Steele!

oh god the Steele dossier

lmfao NONE of those questions had anything to do with this hearing

And that's it for Nunes!

Hillary Clinton!

Delicious sandwiches!!!!

Castor is an idiot.

BENGHAZI!

Love you, r301.

notice how Nunes did not bring up "Ukrainian interference" this time

Castor is bumbling and wasting time.

[quote]Can anyone explain why all of a sudden many in the Republican party would side with Russia and Putin over the interests of their own country.Can anyone explain why all of a sudden many in the Republican party would side with Russia and Putin over the interests of their own country.

Because for the last decade the Russians have been infiltrating Republican organization like the NRA and evangelical groups. The annual "prayer breakfast" has pretty much turned into a Russian and Middle Eastern lobbying boondoggle.

Repubs may have decided they want no part of Hill and the potential "Russia is punking you" narrative.

^Yes, Sondland doesn't have any qualifications or experience, but the GOP only cares about Hunter Biden.

Also, Bibi Netanyahu claims these investigations are a Witch Hunt. Do you think Trump already called and asked him to find another term? You know if Bibi is actually found guilty it doesn't look good if they both used the same terms. He probably told him "You know, you are guilty but I'm not so please find something else. Also, I dont really know who you are anyway and the pictures we took together at the WH were nothing special and don't mean I liked you or we were friends. I take pictures with a lot of people. I was also never a fan."

Hill states Sondland's role in Ukraine role grew larger after Yovanovitch was pushed out

Sondland told Hill Trump put him in charage. Bolton had never told Hill that.

Lets face it, someone could pull out a tape recording device with Trump's voice on it demanding an investigation of Biden demanding dirt on him to help him get reelected, and Trump saying we will use it just like we did Hillary's emails and Ukraine isn't getting any money unless the come up with the dirt to destroy Biden and the Republicans will still claim there was no evidence.

Rachel Maddow has been covering Trump's connections with Putin and the Russian mob for years, literally.

LOL... never ask a question if you don't want it answered.

Hill's concerns on her last day:

1( removal of Yovanovitch and the circumstances her rep was maligned on tv etc. Trump could have just removed her without all that

2) a different channel in operation relating to Ukraine. A domestic/national one (not the one Hill and the others were part of)

My take - Paraphrasing:

Hill asked Sondland "who the fuck are you?"

Sondland said "I'm in charge"

Hill asked "by who? Who put your unqualified ass in charge?"

Sondland: "Trump"

Hill: "I'm outa here, bitches"

[quote]Nunes looks completely constipated.

Not the state of his bowels one might expect at present.

Hill talked to officials about the smear campaign on Yovanovitch

oops the counsel just made the Obama admin look better regarding their decision not to provide javelins lol Hill explained it

I have no idea where Castor is going with his questions. Maybe he, himself, also doesn't know.

That's it?

[quotte] Remember rose as a possible candidate in the Party through his drumbeat about Obama's birthplace. The Birthers were his fuel. Trump is the symptom of a serious disease in the American consciousness, not the cause.

The root of the problem is that conservative pundits, and interest groups like the NRA, create an enviroment that the GOP, Trump, and Putin can exploit. Anyone with common sense laughs at Trump draining the swamp or building a wall. Deplorables lap it up like it's liquid gold, because they believe that Trump will make America great again, by sticking it to the Liberals who are to blame for all these problems the pundits pointed out to them.

David Holmes' eyes every time Nunes speaks = utter contempt.

lol here goes Nunes again going after Nellie Ohr trying to link Ukrainian officials

Why was the ambassador to the EU involved in matters in Ukraine, which is not in the EU? Aside from the fact Putin's doing his best to break up the EU.

Um, but.. erm... fuck, this is hard.

Holmes says the black ledger stuff is credible. Nunes doesn't like that!

Nunes is back, and trying to push some conspiracy crap.

My understanding is the Ukrainians are not allowed to deploy the javelins with out US permission, so they are allowed to have them but no deploy them so the are only a potential threat to Russia not a real and present threat to Russia.

david holmes is hot and speaks from his heart the truth!!! he has perfect memory and is much respected!!!! is he bi? lets find out

Moo!nes trying for a gotcha moment, failing.

Castor looks like Norman Bates.

wow trying to slam the Clinton campaign

OMG. 25 minutes left on the Republican side....they got nothing.

I'm quite excited for the questions from the other particularly stupid Republican members of the committee. Those are hugely entertaining.

Have a stroke, Donald.

Nunes didn't seem to open his questioning with the usual hi-larious banter.

Just an aside: Jason Mamoa is filming outside by building!

There is a huge difference between paying foreigners for dirt on your opponents and using taxpayer funds to get dirt on your political opponents. In fact the former is legal and the latter is illegal.

R344 he has attempted to claim Hillary did "the same thing" in 2016 with the Steele dossier even though that has nothing to do with Ukraine

bet repubs are going to say that now. "What Trump did with Biden is the same as the Steele dossier!"

even though no...the Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS an AMERICAN research firm. That firm then contracted Steele. Clinton campaign never had direct involvement with Steele

[quote]The root of the problem is that conservative pundits, and interest groups like the NRA, create an enviroment that the GOP, Trump, and Putin can exploit.

David Frum:

(A) closed knowledge system entraps millions of Americans in a universe of untruth, in which Trump is a victim and the allegations against him are “fake news.” The prisoners and victims of this system live in a dreamworld of lies. Yet it would not quite be accurate to describe them as uninformed. They are disinformed, and on a huge scale. The false-knowledge system supported by Nunes is closed and sealed, but also vast and intricate.

The Ukraine allegation against President Trump is simple and straightforward. It can all be summarized in a few sentences of plain English: Trump wanted dirty help for his 2020 reelection campaign. He sent messages demanding that dirty help to the Ukrainians directly on the phone and via his henchmen. He stalled military aid to extort the help. The Ukrainians nearly surrendered, until the whistle-blower report reached Congress on September 9 and knocked loose the aid on September 11.

Now watch Fox News or read the pro-Trump websites. Suddenly the story becomes very long and very complicated. It can hardly be summarized at all; it can only be alluded to indirectly by a litany of callout phrases: “Burisma.” “Hunter Biden.” “Where’s the whistle-blower?” “Vindman’s conflict of interests.” “Star chamber.” “#coup has started.” The intricate tale is animated by a burning rage of injustice against “fake news”—most of that “fake news” (like the story about Trump Tower Moscow) in fact true and corroborated.

The accusations against Trump are direct and intelligible to any open mind. The defense of Trump resembles the Star Wars saga: a universe of storytelling, in multiple parts, much of it comprehensible only if you venture beyond the visual franchise to a huge appendix of fan fiction and Wikipedia pages.

The House Republicans’ underlying argument is too jumbled and confusing even to be agreed with. It can only be absorbed. It is to be repeated, not to be analyzed. It is not even really an argument at all. It is a hypnotic litany, a creed of faith—a faith all the more compelling for defying sense and experience.

Most of the Republicans are involved with the Russians. Does anyone else recall the Republican politician that beat up , (pushed to the floor), the reporter and was subsequently was charged with assault? He still won his election. This happened in some unknown place in Wisconsin, I believe. I forget his name.

But, even he had Russian connections.

Republicans: Let me see how much dust I can kick up.

R351 that distinction doesn't matter in repub media

These questions seem off topic.

Ranking Member Nunes: Dr. Hill, where you say things like 'depending on what time one has lunch' are you talking down to every day Americans?

Cowardly Republicans won't even go near the warning that Fiona Hill gave us about Russian interference still going on. Fusion GPS , Clinton, Mueller, none of that has anything to do with Trump and the 3 amigo's plus one retard, trying to force Zelinsky into saying that Biden is corrupt.

how did a skunk like nunes get such a position ??????? god!!!!!!!

^ Cuz they got nothin'.

Burisma!

R353 And, while not worth trying to understand and respond to the crack pot attempts, if Clinton paid for oppo research, even in another country in 2016, she 1) wasn't President using American, Congress-approved, taxpayer money as the bribe and 2) she would have been working with an American firm, not a foreign government.

And, it's not equivalent for a gazzilion other reasons.

Moo!nes pinch hitting for the flailing Castor.

R338 it's allegedly justified because of geo-political connections and the aspirations of Ukraine for EU membership.

Of course this is bullshit. It would be acceptable in normal times but Sondland was inserted in Ukraine because he was a political appointee with political and financial ties to POTUS who wanted him to commit bribery and extortion. Career pros ain't going there. Cronies might.

now targeting the Bidens

can't believe someone married Nunes and had kids with him yuck

Dr. Hill is taking pity on poor stupid Nunes by offering an encouraging smile.

If Hillary paid for info on her opposition, isn't it's Trump's position that it's a fair practice and it's done all the time. Or is it only fair when Trump is doing it?

Nunes and Burisma

Well, R367, he did look different when he was younger.

GOP Counsel Castor

[quote] Can anyone explain why all of a sudden many in the Republican party would side with Russia and Putin over the interests of their own country.

We have explained this often. Please pay attention this time.

In the Bible Belt, postwar anti communist propaganda focused on the USSR being “godless communists” who were going to close down churches & take everyone’s bible away from them. It was very effective, as it horrified evangelicals who value their bibles more than their country.

Communist propaganda aimed at the Bible Belt, on the either hand, said that the US govt was secular and wanted to take god out of the schools. This is the fault of American atheists, so don’t trust the US government. Atheists & Jews want to take god, Christmas carols, the Bible and everything good & holy away from the people through the ACLU (run by Jews) and using “freedom of religion” as “freedom FROM religion,” which is not what the constitution said.

After the fall of the USSR, Russian orthodox churches were reopened. Since Putin has been in power, he has cozied up to the Russian Orthodox Church, making sure to be photographed in church services & with orthodox priests & bishops. Russia, as far as US evangelicals are concerned, is once again a Christian country. The Tsar & his family have been canonized as Russian orthodox saints.

Putin has encouraged white supremacy & homophobia in Russia, knowing that US racists will approve. Russian and Ukrainian-Russian men have beat up gays and harassed POC at soccer matches. US racists wish they could do that here.

Russia has helped deepen the divide between red America & blue America by playing to the racism, homophobia & theocratic elements in the red states. They encourage people to carry confederate & US flags, which makes no sense at all. Having a US flag next to a confederate flag was never a “thing” before. If you were confederate, you didn’t want the flag of the UNITED states of America on your truck or trailer.

The GOP adopted Russian propaganda tactics after the fall of the USSR and after Nixon. The GOP post-Watergate knew it was vital to take over media markets & remake them in their own image. That’s when Reagan came along & got rid of the Fairness Doctrine & regulations on media ownership. That’s when you started seeing rightwing radio hosts get traction. Then Fox News. Then internet sites like drudge, World net, free republic. Then the Tea party & “freedom caucus” & war on Christmas. Then Facebook. All the while, Putin was massaging people like Trump, the Kochs, Mercers, Coors, Zuckerberg, et al to hate liberalism & institute “libertarian” aka oligarchic values. “I’ve got mine. I’m special. You’re not special. You’re lazy & stupid & deserve to be poor.”

It’s been quite successful.

This line of Repig questioning is headed the same place as all the others they’ve tried.

Oh shit. Hill is going for it now.

damn I wish we had video and audio footage of Hill blowing up on Sondland lol must have been a sight

Castor is being put in his place by a pro.

so Hill didn't know back in the summer that 2 channels were being run regarding Ukraine. It wasn't all Sondland's fault but she was left out of all he was doing.

My goodness Fiona is a chatty thing. And she is absolutely convinced of the rightness of her position. As she should be. The Repukes have to be shitting themselves.

She made me gasp.

Republicans are learning they should not ask Hill many questions, just state their conspiracies and ask her if she knows anything about. If they actually ask her a question on the facts, she'll destroy their suppositions.

Hill is cutting the balls of of Trump for his use of the government for personal political purposes.

Hill eviscerates Castor about the domestic personal politics that she had to deal with. Nunes jumps in to deflect in an awkward takeover on his own counsel because Castor was getting killed by Hill.

Wow. Never ask a question that you don’t know the answer to. Hill just zeroed in on the crux of the Sondland “remit,” which was a domestic political agenda Bingo!!!

Yuh, but, um, but...

uh oh Nunes just brought up Ukrainian election meddling...

The Jordan/Hill showdown should be good.

damn Hill didn't correct Nunes...c'mon

Give Castor and Moo!nes more time! This is wonderful.

Bolton told Hill to "stay out of domestic affairs"

Nunes and counsel think they can double team her. Hah! When they make this movie it should be Kristen Scott "First Class isn't what it used to be" Thomas.

Bolton had warned Volker not to meet with Giuliani...

Nunes/Castor: Stop! Please stop! Please! We don't understand what you're talking about but it sounds so. bad for us!

When a classmate set Fiona's hair on fire, she put it out with her bare hands.! (see attached)

Castor finally decides to cut his losses and pivots the discussion to Col. Vindman.

Hill refutes Morrison's claim that she had something negative to say about Vindman. She wasn't questioning his judgment or expertise. She just didn't think he should take a position that was more political in the future

She is defending Vindman.

Castor's quizzical look does crack me up tho.

Hill: "Vindman was justifiably alarmed" on July 10th

Castor is so out of his depth. He has no idea what Fiona Hill is talking about.

Let's ask questions to the gay guy. This bitch confuses me.

I'm sure that this Dr Hill is just FABULOUS at cocktail parties!

If this were a baseball game, the umps would have enacted the mercy rule.

member questioning time

YES Schiff asking Hill about Vindman duel loyalty smear

fuck off repubs/repub media

*dual loyalty

I hope 1 of the Democrats asks Hill more about Kash Patel but that may be wishful thinking . I just want to see Nunes squirm

BOOM!

YASSS, DOCTOR!

There is just no comparison between these NSC and diplomatic types and the goofballs that Trump associates himself including Sondland, Stone, Manafort, Guiliani, etc., etc. They are just not quality people.

I think Trump supporters have no idea how the government is run - they really give Trump credit for all of it as if everyone is doing nothing just waiting for his leadership, like he's making all of the day to day stuff happen when he clearly does nothing except pursue his own personal interests.

It drives me insane that the Rethugs have successfully revised history and no one ever remembers or brings up that a RETHUG is the person that initiated the Steele Dossier.

I want them to have rreason to subpoena Rick Perry and his "deal" with Ukrainian national oil and gas interests.

Lol

Hill: "It was clear that Burisma was code for the Bidens"

BOOM!

"By this point it was clear that Burisma was code for Biden."

R409 Yep. Morrison replacing Hill. Sondland replacing Yovanovitch. All this process may not get Trump convicted by the Senate, but it shines the light on swamp-filling and lack of competence.

Thank god for the “deep state” - that is, the dedicated experts who actually make and carry out national policies with the best interests of the country in mind.

wow so Hill walked in on a tense exchange between Vindman and Sondland. She heard Sondland talk about "we have a deal that if Zelensky announces investigation into Burisma he gets a WH meeting" she cut it off

Man, she is indeed a chatterbox. She's the type I avoid at all costs but don't mind her testimony here.

Joyce Alene @JoyceWhiteVance: Fiona Hill slays. She recalls her anger Sondland was not briefing her. She says after hearing his testimony yesterday & learning he was briefing Pompeo, Bolton, Mulvaney & Trump, she decided he was correct-they had separate missions. Sonderland was on a domestic political errand.

Lisa Desjardins @LisaDNews: Fiona Hill is PREPARED for this hearing. - Knows everyone else's testimony, in deposition and this week - Knows all the dates/timeframes of events.

Classless Gym Jordan is screaming now. Sigh.

Jordan stepping up his attack dog act. Let's see when he gets to Hill.

[quote]Man, she is indeed a chatterbox. She's the type I avoid at all costs but don't mind her testimony here.

I yield to Dr. Hill!

here comes yelling Jordan

so Jordan trying to discredit or intimidate Holmes...let's see how Holmes responds

Gym comes in with the shit slinging.

5 minutes of questions per senator = 1 answer from Hill.

"May I answer that question?"

haha Holmes smirking while Jordan rambles

YOU Hear dr.hill speaking so eloquently then bam dumb ass basic hickory farms eating, Omaha steaks subscribing Gym Jordan, starts yammering.

Gym Jordan's theatrics bring to mind this:

A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing:

Jordan interrupts and yells at Holmes. Whoa, tacky.

Gym Jordan starts out with a hardon fir Holmes. A huge rant ensues by Gym. Holmes facial expression is bemused and bored. Holmes asks to respond but Gym isn't finished bitching.

Holmes replies in a calm manner with generic facts about "the call" and his takeaway is "the president doesn't care about Ukraine".

Gym is rudely interrupting just to grandstand and demean the witness.

I know Jim Jordan thinks he's so clever, but when he starts with his double speak/ rat a tat tat, I tune him out. He honestly never makes any sense.

Ah, I saw that eyeroll, Holmes!

What a fucking bully, shut up Gym

I would like to punch Gym Jordan in his stupid squat moron bald head. I hope Holmes fucks him up.

Holmes just needs to gaysnap Jordan.

Gurl, bye.

Holmes just fucked over Gym Jordan.

David Holmes is so fine...I literally am leaking in my pants...

I'm glad Holmes and Schiff are going after this wannabe lawyer who hasn't even taken a bar exam to actually be one. He has the degree, so he's like that person who went to college to get a good degree but now stays at home because they can't figure out what to do with their life.

On screen now: Holmes & Yo-Yo.

Sneering, ape like Jordan

Jim Jordan should NEVER smile. My goodness. He looks demented.

Even Nunes shot Gym a look

Why isn't Gym in court, isn't he in trouble for not reporting abuse of athletes

Can’t Schiff kick sweaty Gym out for repeatedly breaking the rules? Imagine what the Repigs would say if a Dem did this.

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PUT ON A JACKET, GYM.

is there a consequence if Jordan or another member keeps interrupting and speaking when time is expired? Jordan did it about 5 times

Yes Himes GO THERE with the repub conspiracy theory BULLSHIT

lol. "yeah, you didn't miss much.'

UNFAIR!

Chairman Schiff is unfair!

They should at least turn off Gym's mic after his 5 minutes are up.

#NunesNonesense is trending on twitter lol

[quote] Also, Bibi Netanyahu claims these investigations are a Witch Hunt.

Yeah, and guess what?

Sometimes you find them.

R447, yeah, Schiff can throw a member out for breaking the rules. There are Capitol policemen that would escort them out...willingly or not. But Schiff did the right thing because if he had thrown Gym out, Nunes, Conaway, Stefanik, and Ratcliffe would have had a fucking heart attack screaming, "The Chairman is being unfair to the Republicans!"

I find it quite ironic that the very type of men who did burn uppity women as witches now cry about being victims of witch hunts.

I find it quite ironic that the very type of men who did burn uppity women as witches now cry about being victims of witch hunts.

Jordan was too cowardly to ask Fionna any questions.

Hill blows up the repub theory that Trump is justified because Ukrainian officials criticized him

she said many countries had officials doing the same thing disparaging Trump but that hasn't changed our relationship. Only Ukraine for some reason...

Ratcliffe started coughing because he knows he's lying. Only people that look like that do that...

Republicans too scared to ask Dr Hill questions...going after Holmes.

R459, yes, that coughing is very telling.

The Rat probably won't ask her questions, either.

Cliffe looks like he just rolled out of bed after a bender and hasn't showered in a week.

*Ratcliffe

Ratcliffe just had Holmes repeat that Trump didn't know that Kiev is in the Ukraine.

Ratcliffe looks like he’d be good at selling defective used cars to rubes.

"You can tell the Kardashians you tried." An artifact for history... the whole American Political Public Sphere became a reality TV show.

Devil Moones has been leaving the room during Dan Goldman's 45 minutes. Where does he go?

Rep. Terri Sewell is up next for the Dems. She gets Dr. Hill to admit directly there was an improper smear campaign against Yovanovitch. Holmes agrees it was a smear campaign.

Hill agrees Giuliani was a hand grenade. She testifies to threats of public attacks on her safety but remains undeterred.

Sewell yields.

Can someone summarize what the deal is with Nunes and cows?

{quote] We have explained this often. Please pay attention this time.

R373 that is all I read of your snarky response, as I could hardly expect to read anything intelligent from someone who believes an insult is the best way to communicate.

Then this Turner jackass compares smears against Elise Stefanik to smears against Yovanovitch. What a turd he is.

"Is there a question for Dr. Hill?"

He made no sense.

Turner is so stupid...didn't even ask Dr. Hill a question, so therefore everything she said, he believes in.

Mike Turner is up for the Repubs. He's carrying on about nothingness. Now he goes after Hill for claiming to "have heard" things. His attack is that she does too much surmising. He's not asking a question. He's characterizing the proceedings in a mocking way to appeal to Fox and tRump.

He turns to Holmes. He attacks him for being anecdotal.

The members (and it's both sides) just prattle on trying to make the point they're interested in making, not asking real questions on the facts. This particular format, having counsels ask real questions, was so important.

I love these two witnesses. Every time the Republicunts try to intimidate them, they laugh in their faces and eyeroll. They literally laugh at them every time they say stupid shit. They know they're losing, and Hill and Holmes aren't even breaking a sweat. Sondland looked like a jackass, and Holmes and Hill are just openly sneering at them. Holmes is laughing at how stupid that last idiotic diatribe.

I adore David Holmes and his frequent sideye and smirk as he listens to Gym ranting incoherently.

"I see you have 4 seconds left."

Hill is great when giving statements, but she needs to be more pithy in the lightening round Q&A. She took way too much time summarizing a two-year old article when Himes was up.

R470, Devin Nunes pretends to be a farmer, presumably for tax credits. Someone created a satirical account, @ DevinCow, which Nunes promptly sued. So he's a guy who sued a fake cow.

Hill: Yovanovitch was a target because she was a woman.

Damn!

The questioning with Turner is the reason Dems need to coordinate their questions. It is redundant. He is not getting new information.

I’m just going to put this here.

First rule of lawyering: The less you know, the louder and faster you talk.

Thank God we have Turner to point out to us all that we AREN'T seeing and hearing everything we think we're seeing and hearing! We'd be lost without his acute observations of what constitutes reality!

Thanks, R481.

Who said, "Is there a question for Dr. Hill?" Was that her lawyer or Holmes?

And the Nunes family cow farm is in Iowa. Does he even live in his California district?

uh... Rethugs now saying that Schiff is the one making up a lie that they have said Russia did not interfere? WTF?

R488, I believe it was Dr. Hill's lawyer.

Again there is this very over weight man behind. His neck is massive and his position as he sits looks painful. Maybe he should buy bigger shirts?

Republicans are not asking questions. They are all process.

Losers.

This guy "Dr." Wenstrup is a podiatrist for gawd's sake. What a gasbag.

It's very telling that the GOP reps don't really have any questions. They just want to give their twisted monologues.

She's gonna school them.

Nunes often refuses to meet with his constituents; maybe now they'll see he doesn't give two fucks about them and vote his ass out next year. If they vote in a Republican "Never Trumper", I'd be ok with that, as long as MooCow is gone.

If he's an actual physician, I damn sure wouldn't go to see him...he talks too much and is psychotic to believe that the Dems think Russia DIDN'T participate in the attack in 2016.

Did you notice how Dr. Hill sat there and said that Ratcliffe and Turner left the room after giving the performance of their lives? Honey, have several seats if you're doing that. Nobody does dramatic exits except queens. Mary!

Clear your Trumpsucking throat, Ratcliffe!

(Speech coaches know that Ratcliffe's inability to do this is a sign of nervousness).

Wenstrup is up now. Playing up his military service. Humblebragging.

Attacks Hill for speaking truth to power about denial of Russian interference in elections. Long winded speechifying so Fox can extract good sound bites.

Lectures us on hatred. That's fucking rich.

Hill insists on responding. Agrees with overcoming hatred. She expresses disappointment that GOP who questioned her earlier have left. She insists we stop partisan bickering over elections. She gently lectures the committee for questioning her motives in testifying.

She is being polite and complimentary to the assholes while she is undercutting their argument.

[quote] Can someone summarize what the deal is with Nunes and cows?

Nunes represents a rural Central Valley California district. Farmland, cow-town. Potentially flippable though.

[quote] Can someone summarize what the deal is with Nunes and cows?

Nunes represents a rural Central Valley California district. Farmland, cow-town. Potentially flippable though.

Does Hill even have a lawyer? Cus she sounds like she's doing fine by herself.

That was a classic British "Fuck you" to that Wenstrup clown. And he of course does not even realize it.

She's brilliant, R501 -- she relentlessly flatters Wentrup as she destroys him.

Are the fucking Repukes just making statements and then leaving the hearing? I thought I heard that might be happening.

Why aren't they required to stay there until the end? Why is Schiff allowing this?

They are asking NO questions. They are just making statements during their 5 minute time.

She told Wenstrup, "That was very eloquent." That's British for "you tried."

An ancillary observation: for the first two years of the Trump administration, there were "adults in the rooms", the proverbial guardrails. Then "let Trump be Trump" became more of the operating principle.... folks like Hill leaving because of the unofficial channel of Ukraine-bribery diplomacy. There could be real crises in these next 18 months.

The Republicans are folding.

R500 that answer wasn't helpful to Democrats either. She said that Trump had a basis for thinking the Ukraine was undermining him. She slammed both parties in her response.

R500 that answer wasn't helpful to Democrats either. She said that Trump had a basis for thinking the Ukraine was undermining him. She slammed both parties in her response.

R503 Nunes wins in 2016 by 67%

Nunes wins in 2018 by 53% (with tons of national Repub money)

Yep, he could lose in 2000.

Mr. Stewart? The GOP House impeached me for a blowjob - after re-election. A blowjob.

If they have no questions they should not be allowed to talk.

I suppose the Repigs are leaving the room to "strategize" out in the hallway, aka ask each other "What the fuck do we do now?"

Repuglican Chris Stewart: "I have no questions so I will use my time to throw out words Sean Hannity will like."

I don't want it to end!!!!!

These assholes are just giving MAGA speeches, they aren't even asking questions. Probably because they know Hill is too smart.

Stewart: "In the U.S. Senate we'll be allowed to make TOTAL fools of ourselves!"

GOP reps...

Is Stewart a burn victim?

Holmes laughing out loud at Stewart ranting.

Still bringing up Hunter Biden. OMG give it up.

What the hell is this bozo yammering on about?

[quote]Are the fucking Repukes just making statements and then leaving the hearing? I thought I heard that might be happening.

Yes. And of course, the low IQ supporters love it. They think that's the way you act (when it's them, which it always is). They're idiots. It's the only way to describe them. Uneducated, ignorant idiots who want a "Jerry Springer" style nation.

Again, Repigs, Dump is free to come in and testify!

Again, Repigs, Dump is free to come in and testify!

R522, yes a SUN burn victim!

Has anything in the Steele dossier actually been disproven?

Jackie Speier is lobbing softballs. Yields.

Chris Stewart is up for the GOP more long winded distractions. Whining how unfair it is to tRump. Where's the whistleblower? Is he a Biden partisan. Was there a deep state, what about Hunter Biden, what about corruption, more Chalupa shit.

I just can't anymore...

Thank god he's done with no questions. Tiresome individual.

About 90% of the Steele dossier has been confirmed. That's why the Republicans hate it.

Does someone want to start a part 2? I can but I don't know to link a new thread to this one.

[quote]What the hell is this bozo yammering on about?

For one thing, he's warning other potential whistleblowers that the Republicans will relentlessly smear and attack them.

Every Republican watching should take note:

YOUR REPS WERE TOO COWARDLY TO ASK HILL A SINGLE QUESTION BECAUSE SHE WOULD'VE OWNED EVERY ONE OF THOSE SNIVELING TRUMP SHIT-EATING COWARDS AND YOU KNOW IT AND THEY KNEW IT.

r530, the Russian pee pee girls has never been proven.

In the movie, I hope Dr. Hill is played by that Mrs. O'Brien actress from Downton Abbey. She’s sharp and disciplined, and can lower the boom on some fool when required. And she can do the accent.

Ugh Stefanik cunt is up.

Oh jeez, not this again.

Part II when we need it.

Told you bitches Stefanik didn't learn any lessons.

During the earlier break I was listening to CSPAN-3 while I made some lunch - just so I'd know when it came back on. A Republican caller from Florida came on and went on about how Trump said he would tackle corruption and I think she really believed that he has. Some of these people don't pay very close attention. The last caller during the break was a guy from Alabama and he said, "I want to apologise for all the morons from Alabama who phoned in earlier for all the stupid things they said. Fuck the President!" I can't remember if he referred to him as President but it was pretty funny.

Why the fuck is their strategy to now try to claim they have never said there was no Russian interference?

It amazes me just how much the Repukes just lie and lie and lie...

and ALWAYS Get away with it!

I'm getting the impression that Mr. Holmes has had experience handling dumbass bossy bottoms like Gym Jordan.

Adam Schiff needs to point out that the report on Russian election meddling the Republicans keep pointing to specifically denies that Moscow sought to boost Trump's changes of being elected, in opposition to every U.S. intelligence agency.

[quote]"I want to apologise for all the morons from Alabama who phoned in earlier for all the stupid things they said. Fuck the President!" I can't remember if he referred to him as President but it was pretty funny.

We should get a gofundme started to get that poor bastard out of AL.

Stefanik's "hometown" paper has ripped he for her performance. Bonus: she’s not even from the district she represents.

Like Mueller, Hill is trying to get across a major warning. IT WAS THE RUSSIANS. THEY DID IT BEFORE AND THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN.

Stefanik is disturbing to watch. She's like that crazy fake bitch Mindy in HR who rage texts her boyfriend all day.

R547 ALA has a Dem Senator, This guy needs to stay there and vote.

Thanks R540

Salwell bringing up Patel...and Parnas...

Swalwell mentions Patel and Parnas.

In goes the knife for Nunes.

Swalwell dragging Nunes...wow

Whoa, Swawell lowers the boom. Is Nunes still there? We need a camera on him.

Parnas' attorney is Ed MacMahon? Hi-ohhhh!

Can someone explain to me this tactic by the GOP who think because the attempt by Trump never went through, it never happened? I mean I know others have pointed it out, but how fucking dumb can Republicans at home be? Are they really this stupid that they think attempted murder is no longer a crime because the murder never happened?

Republicans, for the love of God, sterilize yourselves. You are too stupid to live, let alone reproduce more stupidity.

What a party of absolute imbeciles.

R556, he's been on the toilet all morning and afternoon.

Lol Holmes searching for a disembodied voice...

Yes R558. It's called gaslighting.

Nunes was there, head down contemplating his belly.

Zelinsky is Jewish? Is this the first time that's been mentioned during this whole thing? Just wondering.

Amazing that he was elected president of Ukraine; Ukraine is notorious for being anti-Semitic.

R558, Because they know the base is simpleminded and will go with whatever bullshit they're fed, because they have no research/critical thinking skills.

Does Hurd have a question?

No, r565, apparently none of the GOP reps do.

He is concerned but not really, he is GOP Sheeple.

R565, he's a Republican, so obviously not.

Hurd is going full throat on PROCESS.

Again no facts to solicit.

Why are they still obsessed with the Whistleblower???? At this point he/she is irrelevant.

Goddamn, Julian Castro! He's not holding back! Love him.

The Republicans know this is the last hearing so they are trying to basically run the clock out.

But I'm sure they're still pissed that it's likely Orange Cretin will still be Impeached in the House.

THRILLED that Swalwell brought up Kash Patel and implicated Nunes. DELICIOUS

I just donated to Elise Stefanik's Dem challenger Tedra Cobb.

It is a Fox/Trump schreeching point about due process [which does not apply to a grand jury investigation].

R570 Trumpers thinking: it's the deep state trying a coup to unseat an elected President. Schiff and the whistleblower working in collusion. It's crackpot, but you can see the warped logic. "Look, I can put the ball here and it doesn't roll. The world is flat!" 30% of Americans believe the world is flat.

Schiff's closing statement should be good.

Okay, this is not a coincidence that they keep pushing that they believe Putin and Russia interfered...

Why the desperate turnaround?

God bless Dr. Hill!

They really get so fucking hard talking about Hillary.

I love you, R579

Mooooooooo

Dr. Hill just said "American fracking", but her accent made it sound like "American fucking"!

Fiona Hill and David Holmes make a handsome couple ♥️👩🏻‍🤝‍👨🏼

R578 the repubs are aware of media and public perception. The repubs have not criticized Russia throughout these hearings until today. To be fair not all the repubs are spewing propaganda but when you have ranking member Nunes repeatedly saying "Ukrainian interference" and others saying that because a Ukrainian diplomat and some officials bashed Trump the election (as Hill said other countries did it too), it makes the repubs seem sympathetic to Russia

They are attempting to "prove" they aren't Russian sympathizers today

R582 is gon' git sued!

Good one r571.

They are saying that Russia interfered and so did Ukraine.

These Republicans are just nasty nasty people.

Conaway is losing it. He knows the GOP has been taking a beating during these hearings.

Yeah, R585.. but why today after years of them all screeching no such thing happened. There's a reason this is their new strategy.

Well I fucked that one up.

I meant good one r579 of course.

[quote]the GOP has been taking a beating during these hearings.

If only it were literal. They really just cancerous assholes.

Denny Heck is effective. Sweet uncle Denny who will rip you a new asshole before you know what hit you.

They're*

R590 the Rethugs aren't so stupid that they don't know that Hill and Holmes aren't to be played with.

Republicans are at this stage now.

[quote]Yeah, [R585].. but why today after years of them all screeching no such thing happened. There's a reason this is their new strategy.

THEY'RE ON TELEVISION BEING SEEN WORLDWIDE!

That gif never fails to make me laugh. What a talented little actress

Do you there’s constant awkwardness in the halls of Congress between the Democrats and Rethugs? Like how could Schiff even stand to look at some of his R colleagues, let alone utter a friendly salutation?

It is true that the Repubs all signed on to a Committee report that said Russia interfered in The 2016 election. It just watered it down and insisted it had nothing to do with Trump.

I wish someone would moo at Nunes

Oh no GYM JORDAN back up again

A question to Hill from Jordan! Wow.

Quick! Someone start a Part Two thread.

A "Russia interfered." B Putin preferred that Trump win C Trump's organization colluded with Russian interference

Repubs will acknowledge A. They say B and C are "a hoax." There is conclusive evidence that B is true. Mueller resisted saying that C is true.

Schiff has been using Trump’s “catch phrase” tactic in his opening and closing statements: “He got caught. He got caught.” Keeping it short and sweet so the Deplorables can understand.

Looks like Dump got on the phone and ordered Gym to "Ask the cunt a question, you fucking pussy!"

R608 Trust, there will be a rant, but no question.

I love Schiff but he, like other Democrats, need to learn, if you're trying to reach Rethugs, you can't use big words.

Just repeat over and over:

Drumpf lied. Drumpf got caught. Drumpf committed a crime. Drumpf is secretly besties with Hillary.