Impeachment Hearing: Day 3

Yeah, Schiff is in the house.

Vindman in full uniform again.

Here we go!!!

omg the repubs brought their dumb propaganda posters

Let's go Schiff!

I have a new found respect for this man. And for Pelosi.

The guy on the left behind Schiff looks like the Latino (what was his name?) from HBO's Looking. No?

Yes! Schiff calls out the Fox assholes for questioning Vindman's loyalty to the US

I hate Nunes.

Moo moo moo!

LMFAO Nunes saying the mainstream media is still reporting fake news as they've done the past 3 years.

He is fucking PATHETIC

I wonder if the repubs will dare attack Vindman on camera

Why bring up the media to people watching this live. You do that for people not watching this now.

We don't know if he directed Cohen to lie about TT Moscow. That's hearsay.

What does anything Nunes is saying have to do with today's testimony.

what inaccuracies does the whistleblower complaint contain, Nunes? what a fucking liar cow man is

I hate Nunes too. Does anyone believe him? I am listening to him and I am astounded that he is not deeply embarassed.

Nunes AGAIN repeating "Ukrainian interference" and bringing up FRAUD "journalist" Solomon who has now been discredited

Does Nunes really think this is helpful? He’s a moron.

and more Hunter Biden blah blah blah

Yawn, Hunter Biden again.

Fat fuck behind Nunes.

wow he's reaching beyond reality

"it's a textbook example" of bribery that Joe Biden was the point man to remove a corrupt prosecutor?

I wonder how many casual news viewers are believing him right now

Did he just say Hunter was being paid $83k a month? So it's gone up $33k a month since last week's hearing?

what Nunes is missing is that we are watching it now, and not reliant on the media tobgive us highlights.

The statement was 99% for Trump not anyone else.

R22 and that it's THE real example of bribery lol

R24 Trump + Fox "News" viewers

I hope williams gets Pence in doghouse.

Pence has already claimed he doesn't know Williams.

Williams must be a repub. She just said Condi Rice is a personal hero of hers

Which has been pushed back on by people in his own office -- albeit anonymously.

R28 lmao she already brought him up in her opening statement saying she prepares Ukraine info for him

[quote] Williams must be a repub. She just said Condi Rice is a personal hero of hers

That was definitely on purpose to show her bona fides as a Repub.

A lot of these witnesses began service under republicans. That’s what makes it so delicious.

Her demeanor suggests she will be severely truthful of her understanding of the facts.

Is that Sheila Jackson Lee sitting in the audience behind Williams?

I half expect Alyssa Milano to pop up behind Williams.

Trumpist call them never trumpers or those against the trump foreign policy.

Those against presidential overreach or extortion more likely

Vindman is not a great speaker.

Nunes opening statement was written by InfoWars

Hmmmm, Vindman is going to lull everyone into a deep sleep.

R38, I was going to state that also. Looks really nervous.

When does the blond statue looking guy testify?

Bolton needs to testify. You know he wants to blow trump up.

it's a scary thing to testify like this. I feel bad for him. He's been attacked in the media by Fox

Note for today: Morrison is Vindmann's apparent superior. If his optics are better, and he offers any criticisms than it may serve to undermine Vindmann to an extent.

I did notice that Williams correctly referred to a “DemocratIC administration”. Most deplorables leave off the “-ic”.

Oh criticising the President!

His papers are shaking. I feel bad for him.

Strong ending actually, even if haltingly delivered.

When the president tweets and attacks these witnesses he is damaging their reputation and possibly hurting their careers. He should be sued for defamation.

Yeah, that "my little brother" comment and bringing up fascist countries was a nice touch.

yeah I think Volker and Morrison might be a shit show later today.

He comes across as a man threatened.

Morrison is over seven feet tall and looks like he’s hung like a horse.

hmm Williams won't answer questions about the call per Pence's "classified orders"

do we think Schiff expected that answer from Williams?

Ohhhhhh, well this is going to be quick. If nobody can now answer questions.

Schiff wanted it on the record that Pence is blocking disclosure. Pence is going down, too.

They need to unclassify that stuff.

R58, but he don’t know her

Bind man is the type of American I know and respect; an honorable man with a deep love and respect for his country.

Trump and his gang of thugs have done huge damage to the image and fabric of the USA. If ever anyone merited a swing from the gallows it’s Trump and his acolytes.

“Don’t worry, Dad. I’ll be fine for telling the truth.”

“Don’t worry, Dad. I’ll be fine for telling the truth.”

Vindman-apologoes

Do you think Schiff intentionally created that slight interruption to establish the classified nature of the call?

R65, I think Schiff knows exactly what he’s doing and is doing it masterfully.

[quote]Pence is going down, too.

Fake news. Pence doesn't do oral.

The repubs aren't going to like how Vindman makes a judgment that the Trump demand of Zelenskyy was "inappropriate"

Vindman seems so pained to testify. He serves the president as a military man. This is breaking his heart.

Vindman seems so pained to testify. He serves the president as a military man. This is breaking his heart.

Vindman could be a great witness and really expose this corrupt administration if he wasn't so insecure. It is really hard to follow him. He is just very dull.

Thanks for the updates! Can't watch while.I am.at.work.

This Vindman is very hard to listen to, he keeps stumbling over his words.

Good! Schiff is getting it on the record that the “transcripts” are innacurrate.

the repub angle will be "Well if Zelensky brought up Burisma first, clearly he knows it was corrupt!!!!!"

But both are coming across immensely sincere.

OK Goldman work your magic please

r70, I don't think Vindman has any great love for Trump.

The transcript leaves out Barisma. They both testified to hearing it. Hmmm, I’ve heard talk radio say nothing in that call is about he company just the server from 2016.

The brains of the people unable to follow Vindmann have clearly atrophied from disuse.

I want Vindman in me quite deeply.

She said she would be happy to provide the classified information in a classified setting and Schiff said she could submit it in writing and did't have to appear. No as to Vindman, he is killing Trump. And you know they have fired him from his post and removed him from the WH? They claimed it was "routine" to rotate him. I loved him telling his dad he would be OK. It was a veiled way to let us all know he is under threat. This White House, man they are a gang of thugs. We're teetering on the brink of fascism.

Geez people, not everybody is going to be as articulate and well spoken as Taylor. This isn't a movie, this is real life. Give Vindman a break.

As for how boring this is, ever watch the Watergate hearings? The majority of them were very boring; most hearings are.

Is it just my impression or is Williams trying not to give clear answers? It seems she's always trying to deflect and be as vague as possible. Spill the beans already.

I know I’m basically preaching to the choir but I have two Lieutenant Colonels and one Colonel in my family and these guys do NOT fuck around. Lt. Col. would never ruin his life and career for Trump - you just don’t make it that high up in the armed forces if you’re wishy-washy or political.

R83 I agree with you but sadly some in the media will focus on how this hearing wasn't particularly "compelling"

R84. She can’t. She can later not in public hearing.

I can hear the Fox freaks now "how dare this self-important Vindman man call THE PRESIDENT'S requests inappropriate!!!"

R86, irrelevant. This isn’t a singing competition. The opinions of people who want CGI, car chases, explosions and T&A in congressional hearings are of zero importance to anything of value. In fact, we’d all be better off if people realized that an excess of opinions, particularly on subjects of which one is wholly ignorant, is a horrific and repellant character flaw.

R89 I'm with you but in today's world of soundbites and highlights it matters. We need an "omg moment" in each hearing

Vindman has already provided a few of those R90

Is Vindman gay? He pings.

True R91. But no, R90, we really don’t.

R92, I don't think so, but I agree that he pings, haha. He's cute though - I love the joke he made. I would want him to speak some Russian to me... I think a little bit he made that joke to see Dan Goldman's smile and/or to hit on him on national TV, lmao! (A boy can dream, people.)

These two witnesses really love their country because they look like people that you NEVER ever really see, but you know they're there, y'know?

Is Swallowell there today? I just hope he doesn't fart again.

I don’t think he pings.

But I’m super hot for Goldman.

R92, just waiting for that one

Hmm, R40 is a freeper cunt fuck.

Why is that woman completely turned to the side behind Vindman, looking at a screen?

It's slightly distracting.

R90, no, we don’t. And you’re either brainwashed or you work for a current events commentary show posing as a news program, if you believe that.

R95, all members on the committee are there. They wouldn't be able to have the hearing if they weren't all there. This is not an optional attend committee - you're obligated to be there. Just like the Judiciary Committee.

R96, why do you like Goldman's hot ass? What do you see in him? (I'm asking in the sense of, "Ooh, I like him too. I like x about him, what do you like?"

R97, what do you mean by "just waiting for that one"?

Nevermind, I see there are several people in a row sitting at desks with laptops out. I just tuned in so I just now saw the pan of the room.

R99, she might be a stenographer or reporter. Either way, she's probably taking notes or words down.

R100 it's not for me. I don't need it. You know a lot of Americans are dumb and don't care unless there's a bombshell. I'd like to be wrong but that's where we are today

R95, not true. Stefanik (-sp?) skipped the first several days.

Yes, we do need an OMG moment in each hearing, r100, and a clear, brief, easily understood one. Otherwise the opposition has an opportunity to spin. r90 is right.

R104, oh, so, you’re Concerned. Right.

R98, if you read the rest of my comments, you'll see I'm not a freeper cunt, asshole. Stating that Vindman is a dull speaker is stating a truth, idiot.

R101, just waiting for thread to get into who’s hot or gay. This is DL afterall.

for those of you who aren't aware, Fox has been calling the impeachment process "a flop, failure, sham and scam" for the past week. Some moderates who might see those clips could be influenced.

Yes WE KNOW that Fox is a bullshit propaganda outlet but a lot of people think "it's just the republican side"

[quote] They wouldn't be able to have the hearing if they weren't all there.

R101 where did you get that, I am not disputing , just Chairman Schiff said something to the effect let the record show we have a quorum. A quorum is just a majority, if it was possible to kill the hearing the Republicans wouldn't show up and kill this hearing.

What do you want? More live attacks?

Sometimes the country has to put on its big boy pants and LISTEN.

R107 what is your problem? Am I concerned about how this impeachment turns out? Damn right I am. Too many idiots in this country don't know what the fuck is real.

The numbers are gradually going up in our favor but a lot of people still aren't paying attention. You have no idea how little interest so many Americans have in our politics

I'm not R98, but I don't find Vindman dull.

Simple matter of opinion.

Vindman isn't handsome but he's damn hot. That uniform...

Can you guys stop fighting. We are on the same side.

I think the people with the laptops are journalists. I recall someone from the BILL TAYLOR hearing day identifying a cute guy behind him as a journalist.

Vindman seemed extremely nervous at first, he is getting more composed as he continues to testify. I do have a hard time seeing him barking out orders to lower ranking service members though.

R113, endless fretting about people who aren’t paying attention isn’t going to get them to pay attention.

Schiff is running this in a thorough professional way. That’s better than staging false theatrics which will turn many people off.

R112 ilook media spin matters. Are there a lot of people watching these hearings? Yes but even more aren't and will rely on whatever clips the media chooses to play

R113 and you think that restricting the hearing diction to single syllable words will raise the IQs of the morons who don’t know why they should care? This is reality, not a special ed class. We do not owe anything to the amoral and intellectually lazy.

But are you calling people freeper cunts if they have a different opinion, r114?

The military is not all about barking out orders. There’s a large professional class.

Vindman seems to have found his groove, and is providing better answers. Is the woman in glasses sitting behind him Mrs Vindman?

Williams should NOT have that hairstyle. It accentuates her long face.

R121 their opinion matters as much as ours sadly

R124, I hope not! I wonder if Vindman has a public Facebook to look at. I don't wanna be the one to skip trace him, haha.

R125, does it really matter though with regard to what's happening today?

Vindman is adorably nerdy. And , although he's not delivering any "bombshells", he is delivering tons of integrity and pride in being an American. I don't know what the Republicans are going to do with him when it's their turn, but they better be careful.

Is Holmes also testifing today?

R129 no on Thursday

No, R122. Waste of time.

They’re still talking about this Chalupa bitch?

R128 Yes from the beginning what these 2 bring is immense sincerity, which highlights their collective reservations about what happened (to put it mildly) and how abnormal it was.

What will the Republicans ask, you say?

“Lt Col Vindman, isn’t it true that you hate America, unlike our Dear Leader?”

lmfao Nunes asking Williams questions before she was working on Ukraine

Or that you may may be wrong when singling out comments, r131.

Wonkette’s blog is fun to follow.

“Lt Col Vindman, what do you have to say about this Facebook post where you praise Killary Clinton for eating babies?"

I just wish Vindman would tell Nunes to fuck off with the Hunter Biden shit and it is of no relevance.

LOL

Somebody needs to turn their phone off and not leave it on vibrate. And it's not Swalwell this time.

No one is aware of the Republican made up Hunter Biden scandal.

where's Nunes going with this?

trying to prove that because Williams and Vindman don't know Hunter Biden's pubic hair color that they're not credible?

Neither is aware of the conspiracy theories in the presidents head.

"Russian collusion hoax"

OMFG Do I despise Nunes

why the fuck does there have to be a deplorable area in California?

I wish Nunes would just drop dead.

Once again Republicans are going nowhwere/flailing...

Why is Nunes asking questions that he knows they cannot answer? That's so stupid. Now I wonder what kind of questions Castor will have...

Nunes's entire strategy has been to attempt to use the impeachment hearings to conduct the 2016 election and Burisma investigations that Trump wants.

^ He just wants to mention the Bidens as much as possible and implicate them in this somehow.

He’s accusing them as being leakers. They are desperate if this is their cross examination

R143, partially but mostly Nunes is using his opening time throw as much conspiracy/Biden shit against the wall and see what sticks. Whether there are answers or not is irrelevent.

is he trying to have Williams and Vindman out the whistleblower?

R166, I totally agree with you. He needs to be dead like his cow(s) will be...

I'm not understanding where Nunes is going here...it doesn't make sense to ask them about media inquiries or statements. They've never been in front of a camera until today...

True, R152 he is doing that because he knows that will almost entirely not give him what he wants.

She reminds me of Natalie from Orange is the New Black.

Is Nunes trying to trip up Williams and Vindman, or does he have absolutely nothing of substance to ask?

Who the fuck is that porcine creature sitting behind Nunes? 😮

yup whistleblower knew it

Nunes you are a piece of shit

Mr. Cow Fucker is trying to get Vindman to expose whistleblower!

Schiff says, Mooove on, bossy.

Nunes is trying to find out who was then whistleblower.

He’s trying to make this as meaningless as possible, R157.

R148, Nunes is trying to hold his own hearing into the made up conspiracy theories against the Biden's and to try and discount the factual findings of the Mueller report.

R136, what on earth are you talking about?

here's the drama

Nunes trying to out the whistleblower. This will blow up in both mainstream and rightwing nutjob land.

Mainstream media will rightfully bash the fuck out of Nunes. Right wingers will accuse Vindman and Schiff of "covering up"

Fucking MAGA hat-wearing piece of shit sitting in the audience.

Wow, what a piece of shit Nunes is. Loved Vindman insisting that Nunes adress him correctly with his full title. Haha.

The whistle blower is irrelevant. Moooove on, Devin.

Oh God, there’s some guy wearing a red MAGA cap in the audience.

R166 where?

The GOP is still going with Castro, even after his disastrous performance last week.

Love it! Nunes was just castrated by Schiff, Vindman and Vindman's laywer.

You are aware this is the intelligence committee. Oh Devin, not with you present.

Nunes is a slimey creature.

r170 Behind Vindman's counsel.

Who's the Dunkin' Donut behind the ineffective Republican lawyer?

It's a bit dumb to have both witnesses at once isn't it?

R164 you put yourself in the middle of something you clearly should have stayed out of, particularly since you didn't read the R numbers that were referenced in previous posts before you commented. It wasn't just "a matter of opinion" but you had to jump in.

Nunes looked kind of scared there. I kinda want a replay to see what spooked him.

Schiff should state Plainly for the morons that Whistleblowers are protected by law and that attempts to expose the whistleblower against his/her will are criminal.

r177 Seems efficient, I like it.

R177 when it's the same topic, it makes sense

Corruption is endemic in the Trump Administration.

You know who's really boring the fuck out of me these days? Donald Trump.

It's hard to believe that Trump has any concerns other than his own ego.

The dangerous obsession with exposing the initial whistleblower is contemptible. I get that there is a great need to establish a partisan foundation for this (which has long been make irrelevant) that can swing opinion, but it will endanger lives of families. It is shameful. And I support legal action against anyone who crosses the line.

Vindman is a lot younger than I thought he was. Nunes keeps spouting conspiracy theories and coaching them as questions.

Why would you hire a lawyer with microcephaly? Castor probably has to have his hats specially made XXS.

The guy over Vindman's left shoulder has been chowing down for quite a while now and it is annoying as fuck.

The GOP has nothing.

The Dem and the Republican counsel should fuck and publish that recording on OnlyFans. Fuck, they're both hot.

Where did the repugs get this Castor attorney guy? Late night commercial on basic cable for legal services, 1-800-CASTOR.

Vindman s a Russian Jewish imlmigrant. Has quite a resume.

OK that's it I'm officially going to piss off everyone I know and "sound pretentious" by changing the way I pronounce "Kiev". All my life I thought it was 2 syllables. Now I know it's just ONE

R191, 99% of the calls are accidental attempts to buy a mattress.

r193 Both are acceptable and there's very little audible difference between the two versions.

Castor really pressing and reaching to get certain answers here

Williams is a good witness. Castor is having a hard time with her.

"They call me LIEUTENANT COLONEL Vindman!"

Castor is flailing and is scoring absolutely zero points.

[quote]OK that's it I'm officially going to piss off everyone I know and "sound pretentious" by changing the way I pronounce "Kiev". All my life I thought it was 2 syllables. Now I know it's just ONE

There's no cow in Moscow but that doesn't stop anybody. Party on, Irene.

R198 RANKING Lieutenant Colonel!

[quote]"They call me LIEUTENANT COLONEL Vindman!"

I am that Lieutenant Colonel!

Castor always looks so confused.

*waits for the backlash Laura Ingraham will get after bashing Vindman for telling Nunes to call him Lt. Colonel Vindman* . You know that evil bitch will go there and think she's scoring points

I bet Devin Nunes' cow has been in Moscow.

yeah Vindman is officially warmed up. He was just nervous during the opening statement and first few minutes of questioning

it's almost as if he feels relaxed answering the bullshit questions from repubs

Castro looks like he’s taking a shit

"Mr. Nunes, it's Lt. Col. Vindman"

[quote][R198] RANKING Lieutenant Colonel!

Oh, damn. What are we gonna do with all these T-shirts?

Devin Nunes: "Mr. Vindman."

Lt. Colonel Vindman: "Ranking member, it's lieutenant colonel Vindman, please.”

Kiev is the Russian spelling and pronunciation R193. Kyiv is Ukrainian, and of course is preferred by Ukrainians.

Dan Pfeiffer @danpfeiffer

Castor and Nunes have no plan, they are just burning clock.

Vindman may have been nervous at first but ultimately he is probably pissed off at what has happened, not just in the call but in the ensuing months.

Does that make him partisan, or patriot? I guess we know how that decision is made...

fucking PATHETIC

repub counsel trying to throw out Vindman's loyalty by asking about the Ukrainian offer to give him a position in the government. Vindman flatly turned it down but repubs are going to use it to continue their narrative of "where does his loyalty truly lie?"

Castor looks like he's a chronic farter.

Which one called Holmes a “delightful fellow” sarcastically? Was that Vindmann or Castor or ..?

R211 thanks! I will always spell it Kyiv now

Shit got real starting with the MR. Vindman slur; betcha "little brother" was halfway out of his seat at that point.

That was Vindman, R216.

this moment right here will be a Fox "highlight". Questioning Vindman's loyalty to the US because of the Ukrainian offer. Pathetic but it will make them look bad. Vindman will only be hated by 40% of the country

lol was Castor supposed to say "Giuliani was promoting a negative narrative about Ukraine"? That makes Giuliani sound bad. Are they throwing him under the bus?

They should replay Mooooones disrespecting Vindman’s title.

I can't say for sure, r210, but I thought I heard him address Williams as Miss Williams....

Something is happening, there's a lot of security people moving behind Vindman and Williams.

The paid goon in the MAGA hat is there to threaten Vindman and Williams.

Break time maybe.

R222

I wish Schiff had pointed out that Vindman has gotten death threats for testifying from MAGA goons and compare that to what he said would happen to him if he spoke out against the President or Prime Minister in Russia.

[quote] The paid goon in the MAGA hat is there to threaten Vindman and Williams.

A stout servicemember with a purple heart outranks an orangutan in a MAGA hat.

well Stefanik behaved herself during the opening portion. I wonder if she'll "have a moment" again during her 5 minutes though

Well, I guess the GOP now has to shelf the whole "it's only hearsay" defense .

Michael Cohen @speechboy71

Republicans have had weeks to prepare for these hearings. Castor's questions have been on topics tangential to key issues in the impeachment inquiry. Nunes spent his time floating Hunter Biden conspiracies and trying to out the whistleblower. This is a tell. They have bupkes

R232, isn’t he supposed to be in prison?

GOOD. MSNBC is bashing the fuck out of repubs for bringing up the questioning of Vindman's loyalty to the US

I hope this backfires on the repubs as it should.

it is an an antisemitic and xenophobic dog whistle.

Oh, god, they showed Vindman going to the stalls just now.

r233 Different Michael Cohen. The other one is in a luxury prison playing tennis, working out, and writing his memoir right now. Not a joke.

R225 - Lt. Col. Vindman acknowledged that visual maga cap "threat" in his opening statement where he assured his father that all was well. Makes me suspect that the note to his father was a last minute addition and was addressed to not only father, but to the country. Read between the lines.

break over

Vindman and his family are in danger and have round the clock security.

Handsome chap sitting behind Williams.

R230 - Stefanik had better behave. Half the viewing audience fetched their checkbooks during the break.

R239 disgraceful. Fucking deplorable scum

Vindman is a good man

Nunes yielding to Jordan

here we go lol

This asshat Jordan isn’t wearing a sports coat

Leaker? What??

How many times is that frau behind Jordan going to adjust her hair?

wow Jordan continuing the repub narrative questioning Vindman about leaking

Nunes a pathetic loser

He doesn’t look any more dignified in a jacket, r244.

Many months ago, there was a time where Pence was onboard an aircraft jet heading somewhere and the plane turned around and came back. The admin said "we would find out what it was about soon". What was that?

And worse, wearing a brown suit.

R245, they are trying to find out who the whistleblower is again.

R245, they are trying to find out who the whistleblower is again.

Wow, is it possible Jordan is an even bigger ass than Nunes?

It's just a little over a year since the Tree of Life Synagogue massacre so it's hardly unrealistic to suspect there are armed maniacs out there plotting against the Vindmans.

Ah - thanks, r245

When they first came into the hearing room at 9, Joaquin wasn’t wearing a coat. Has anyone seen him yet? Did he put his coat on?

Gym Jordan’s whore staffer behind him needs a barrette.

This guy is awful

Sorry- meant to say thanks to you r252

Who are paying these lawyers?

R250, Pence was heading to New Hampshire when the plane was called back.

Oh, Vindman is good.

A never partisan. Yaas!

Go, Jim Himes!

YES Himes!!!!

calling out the right wingers for their pathetic smears against Vindman

Himes is hardening

me.

The handsome man behind Ms Williams - is that Mr Williams?

Conaway yeilds to asshole Ratcliffe

Hines is impressive in more ways than one!

Trump apparently tweeted an attack on one of Vindman’s attorneys.

[quote] The handsome man behind Ms Williams - is that Mr Williams?

At one point he left his seat to whisper in the ear of Ms Williams attorney, so I am guessing he is another attorney.

BDF?

Himes took off his Clark Kent glasses and turned into Superman right before our eyes.

[QUOTE]Who are paying these lawyers?

Oh, dear....

This idiot is so used to having to adhere to hive mind that he can’t comprehend why the witnesses are not reciting talking points, but rather speaking freely.

In my mind's eye I can see Ratliffe on his hands and knees, barechested wearing a dog collar and leash in a biondage situation, and Pelosi cracking a whip across his ass. It helps me get through the GOP questions.

Mr Ratcliffe Trump is a proven dumbass, but no one has stated so in these hearings, sometimes you don't need to state the obvious.

Mr Ratcliffe Trump is a proven dumbass, but no one has stated so in these hearings, sometimes you don't need to state the obvious.

l cannot stand Ratcliffe's ass AT ALL.

Bribery is a legal term, Ratfuck. Ask a real fucking lawyer (not yourself, obviously).

Is there a question?

Ratcliffe just wants to make a speech, there will be no question there.

R261, us motherfucker

I recently read Pompeo authorized the State Department to help pay legal fees. I guess that will end when Trump gets wind of it.

[quote]Who are paying these lawyers?

[quote]Oh, dear....

Assuming there is more than 1 person paying, who are paying is correct.

It is bribery. And extortion. The more the facts come to light, the more clear it is. And that is exactly what quid pro quo means. But Trump's base is too dumb to understand that. All they hear is a phrase they can't understand. The Republicans are lucky that Trump's base is so stupid.

You're not the only one, r266.

I think Ratcliffe is one of those guys that secretly uses Grindr...he just looks like that kind of "straight" guy.

R283, are we? I thought one of the reasons people were reluctant to work for the WH was concern over racking up attorneys’ fees.

I want to see a video of a meth-fueled orgy between Goldman, Castor, and Williams' counsel. Hot tall fuckers, all.

They can invite Holmes as well.

R266, I'm SO with you on that. I wonder if Himes has any shirtless pictures somewhere...

Slap me if you want but these black girls need wigologists! What is it with the mess they have sitting on the top of their heads. Between these and Joy Reid, hair stylists should be knocking down their doors.

[QUOTE]Who are paying these lawyers?

[QUOTE]Oh, dear....

[QUOTE]Assuming there is more than 1 person paying, who are paying is correct.

The key word is ‘these’.

lmfao repubs must be MADtttttt

Look what's trending:

#DevinNunesIsAnIdiot

#PurpleHeart

#NeverPartisan

Vindman has rebounded very well from his opening statement nervousness

[quote]And that is exactly what quid pro quo means.

Actually, it doesn't. This is why Democrats moved from using the term to being more exact by using bribery and extortion. Quid pro quo in itself is legal, but the context of the situation is where it becomes legal or illegal.

Jim Himes

Memo to self: Never leave home without (a) keys, (b) identification, (c) healthcare card, and (d) most recent job evaluation.

R290, totally in agreement with you! I LOVE tall men too. That's sorta a turn on for me. Maybe a requirement, LOL. :P R292, I think so too. They look a mess! Especially Val Demings! . The Rethugs are absolutely weak today...and I'm loving every minute of it.

R295, I learned that on TV from Chris Cuomo!a

[quote]Assuming there is more than 1 person paying, who are paying is correct.

Erm, no, the singular "who" is used regardless of how many payers you're inquiring about.

R296, thank you so much! You've made my day so far!

[quote]The key word is ‘these’.

not necessarily, if only one source is paying all the lawyers, "who's" would be correct.

if the poster doesn't know how many sources are paying the lawyers, either "who is" or "who are" could be correct. no need for "Oh Dear!"

R298, I'm surprised and disappointed at Chris Cuomo then.

So, the plan today is to railroad through "questions" in attempt to rewrite the narrative and prevent the witnesses from giving actual answers to anything that could contradict the lies the repukes are vomiting up.

Ms Speier's staffer needs to lay off the hyaluronic acid, I think.

I hate this guy’s voice. He sounds like Billie Byrd.

They must have adjusted Stefanik's medication. She seems almost human today.

"has the potential of the appearance of a conflict of interest" ... Stefanik is really reaching now, LOL.

This cuntrag needs to be voted out of office

R308 - Vote via a contribution to her opponent's campaign.

Yes, Stefanik learned her lesson.

The Republicans come off as so dim and dull.. seriously this is the best they can do?

Vinman is likeable but I hope he doesn’t get overconfident. Maybe twin bro lawyer will warn him.

R292, R298: better a wig than a maga cap or tin hat. Some of us are too shallow for words. Democracy and freedom are at stake, yet we attempt to bully and berate those elected to represent us in the fight.

Tommy Vietor @TVietor08

Col Vindman absolutely humiliated @Jim_Jordan by reading that performance review. Rep Jordan, who is best known for ignoring warnings of sexual abuse at OSU, is a rather flawed attack dog attack against a decorated veteran.

[quote] Some of us are too shallow for words. Democracy and freedom are at stake, yet we attempt to bully and berate those elected to represent us in the fight.

And? We're gay. We live to be fabulous. You must look fabulous at all times and through all trials and tribulations.

Simian Gym Jordan is skating on thin ice here regarding the chain of command for reporting misconduct. This footage could be used against him in his own defense proceedings someday.

Gym Jordan and the GOP keep talking about the process because they know Trump is guilty of abusing his power. All they have is to focus on process.

Gym talks about everything else but the actual investigation at hand

[quote]Gym Jordan and the GOP keep talking about the process

I'm not picking that up. I'm picking up that they're trying to rewrite history. What landslide did Trump have?

Well, if the "president" would just stop breaking the law, there'd be no impeachment hearings, Yelly Gym.

Gym Jordan is one of the palest people I’ve ever seen. His coloring is just so gross.

Gym just makes partisan speaks.

Hilarious that Jordan keeps changing the facts: No collusion, no quid pro duo, transcript vindicated Trum---LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE

So in other words, re. the testimony of Williams and Vindman, Gym's got nothing.

Any day now Simian Gym starts hurling feces: duck, when he reaches back into his diaper.

Chairman Schiff should enter every one of donald's intimidating tweets into the hearing as they occur.

Beating strawmen. Vacuous and repetitious.

Dump loves snipers who kill innocent civilians, though!

Vindman has classic TDF.

Maloney: See, Gym? I can yell, too!

Thankfully, every chance they get, the Dems are pointing out that the GOP just mentions process, not substance.

R328, ABSOLUTELY!

Jordan and GOP doing the typical--blame the messager

I LOVE MALONEY!!!!

Is Williams' body turning slightly towards Vindman? She totally wants him!

She wants a nether-part of him

Williams is lucky to be testifying with him, since he attracts most of the attention.

Tom Coates @tomcoates

Wow. That statement between Patrick Maloney and Lt Col Vindman was amazing, blunt and clear. #impeachmenthearings

Did I miss Maloney? I love Maloney. And it's been twenty minutes from Himes, if you follow. ;)

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1

MALONEY: Why do you have confidence that you can ... tell your dad not to worry?

VINDMAN: Congressman, because this is America. This is the country I've served and defended. That all of my brothers have served. And here, right matters.

MALONEY: Thank you, sir.

Applause break out.

"Act one of today's circus" -- the GOP is totally drowning if they have to resort to sounding like Faux"News".

[quote]Oh God, there’s some guy wearing a red MAGA cap in the audience.

I've done jury duty in front of the same judge in NYC twice who CLEARLY DEMANDED that everyone remove their hats in his courtroom! He was a total dick, but ran the tightest ship and tolerated the least bullshit I've ever seen.

Welch, on investigating Biden: you want do it? Do it hard. Do it dirty. Do it way you want to do it.

God, if that had only been Himes or Maloney...

Trump had no problem pardoning war criminal from the military but disparages Vindman

Mitt Romney: Thank you for your service. But she ordered the venison. I ordered the lamb.

MMPH... last week sent Trump to the hospital.

This week just might send him to the cemetery....

May each testimony give Dump another mini stroke.

If Trump does croak, would they still investigate the other criminals involved in his shenanigans, like his grifter family?

Awesome closing by Schiff, but I wonder if he was expecting a burst of applause when he slammed his gavel down.

FABULOUS morning for the Democrats and our nation as the WORLD watches!

Question for our sisters watching from overseas: do you hate the Rethugs like Jordan as much as we do?

They need to just say "The President doesn't give a SHIT about Ukraine."

R351, I agree - I don't understand why these anchors are scared to say it...you're just quoting what someone else said, so it's not YOU particularly saying it, haha. They're stupid.

Anyway...I think that Adam Schiff and Dan Goldman did one hell of a job with these two witnesses. I like how methodical each Dem was in asking their questions. Stefanik and Conaway shut their pork chop mouths up. It felt so nice to not hear arguing with Schiff.

Back to Vindman too, since he's a twin, who thinks that the other twin is hot? I like Alex better - he seems very confident and sure of himself. I know that's a bit biased because we haven't heard or really seen the twin, but Alex had me weak in the knees with that uniform on, haha.

Vindman. VINDMAN?!

I find Vindman strangely attractive and would enjoy orally servicing him while he is in full uniform.

R354, I wholly agree. And since he's Ukrainian, I imagine it's uncut and thick. But even if it wasn't, I still would blow him into the next galaxy...

R355 he’s Jewish, so he’s likely cut

Hunter took a job that gave him free money. It was offered and he took, Joe Biden had nothing to do with that. It had already been looked into and there was no crime involved. Of course the company hoped there might be something special involved but there was not.

r355, he's Jewish; it's cut and so is his twin's.

Volker's up next! That should be good. Sondland... tomorrow? That should be epic. He's all anybody talked about... he makes or breaks this thing somehow.... he can either find a way to give the Republicans something to hide behind (doubtful since he probably fears jail) or he brings it all down with a crash.

I want to slap the shit out of Chuck Toad. After the morning session was finished, he kept saying that he’s just isn’t sure that the Dems have met the “very high bar” of convincing the country that Congress should disqualify tRump from facing the voters, instead of letting them decide whether he should remain in office.

It is already clear that this traitorous felon engaged in a conspiracy to cheat in another election. His conduct is exceptionally egregious. This wasn’t a single line during a phone call, but rather an extensive plot to subvert American national security interests to benefit tRump and it involved many people spanning many months.

He should be removed as soon as possible.

Sondland may turn out to frustrate all if he takes The Fifth.

But, taking the fifth after his closed door testimony, and added written statement, would be an admission...

R227 Thank you! Oh, that’s magnificent. The politest shut down ever. I cannot stop laughing. Fantastic shade.

Chuck Todd misjudged the off-year elections and he is misjudging this inquiry, too.

R356, R358, now how in the hell do the both of you know that he's Jewish, let alone cut? Some Jewish people actually didn't go through that process because their parents wanted them to make the decision on their own. Just because someone has a particular religion background doesn't always mean that they follow in that tradition.

And can I ask everyone a question - why do most DLers watch MSNBC versus CNN? Of course I've been gay all my life, but is MSNBC for us gays, LOL? I will admit - they do have some HOT reporters...I wouldn't mind having Richard Lui (I love his big, full lips...they remind me of my own) and Garrett Haake. I like Ari and Chris Hayes both, but...seems like MSNBC doesn't have that many anchors and reporters that can grab my attention like CNN's. However, that being as it may, I still switch between the two during commercials. (Sorry for the random thought on the impeachment thread, but I just had to find out and know, haha - forgive me, please!)

Did Trump really say that the Rethugs are absolutely killing it?! And that the impeachment inquiry is a way for the Dems to have political gain?! And he's the highestdopb m

*the highest ever in the polls?!

(Sorry, website glitched on me - promise I'm not drunk, LOL)

[QUOTE] Of course I've been gay all my life

Umm, yeah, I’m sure...

Your entire post is just weird, R364. CNN is bothersiderism crap. Nicolle Wallace’s wonderful show is on MSNBC which is must-see-TV.

OK part II bitches

OK part II bitches

Nunes again, just go away

R364 MSNBC viewership is always higher than CNN. So more than just "da gay".... What's more encouraging to me is, that while Fox has the highest rating, MSNBC and CNN together are always higher than Fox.

Nicole Wallace, in particular, a former Republican operative, has a useful perspective on the Trump administration.

I have a feeling that Volker is going to do everything he can to avoid answering with specifics. There will be a lot of "I don't recall" and "I wasn't aware of."

The Vindman twins.

I'm just going to leave this here...

WHITE HOUSE

Trump says media panicked Melania into thinking he had a heart attack

The president tried to dismiss rumors about his health after he made an unannounced medical visit to Walter Reed over the weekend.

How can Nunes walk around with his head held high? He knows he's lying through his teeth

R374 Like Melania cared. Trump told everyone himself that she wouldn’t cry if he got shot so why would she care if he had a heart attack.

Chris Hayes @chrislhayes

All I can think of when I see Nunes now is that he's suing a cow on Twitter.

George Takei @GeorgeTakei

Anyone else disgusted by @DevinNunes and want to see him gone? Take your anger and do something positive with it. Follow his opponent @PhilArballo2020 on Twitter, and chip in $3 to his election campaign. We the People have the power to change this.

Is Morrison going to contradict Vindman? I mean the facts will be the same but their interpretations seem different

[quote] so why would she care if he had a heart attack.

So she could wrangle a better deal out of Winstons.

[QUOTE] Trump says media panicked Melania into thinking he had a heart attack

Who is he fucking kidding? First of all, any sentence beginning with “Trump says...” is going to be a lie.

Second of all, wouldn’t Melania be jumping for joy if Trump had a heart attack and died. No one cares one iota for his health except for himself.

This reminds me of that fake story that Barron thought that the Kathy Griffin decapitation picture was real.

omg the height difference between Volker and Morrison lol

One thing I'll give Nunes... he's got a good writer back stage but he can't deliver it convincingly and it changes after every recess. Still, it's quality bullshit produced at top speed.

Does Morrison have some of that hair fiber powder or a bad dye job on top?

#DevinNunesIsAnIdiot is still trending on twitter 3 hours later lol

NUNES STILL PUSHING CONSPIRACY THEORIES

I hope we will hear from Morrison and clearify his comments about Vindman. I thought it was disgusting that they smeared his achievements and career in part on his comments.

I wonder why Morrison resigned from his position immediately after giving his closed door testimony...

Tweety looked like shit today, even after what appears to be a fresh trip to the tanning bed. Post-Friday night enraged meltdown and Saturday's cardiac event.

Also, the GOP claimed that the Dems did not release the transcript of a witness bc it supported Trump and his position. Was this Morrison or someone else?

So is everyone under oath but Nunes? I mean he is flat out lying

R391 The overarching oath covering all Congress members is that "to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

That woman sitting behind Volker should have called in sick today.

I'm guessing that the real quid pro quo was Putin saying he'd help Trump become POTUS if he'd in turn help him take over the Ukraine.

Whether Manafort/Kushner/Junior told Dotard about the deal is unknown.

R373 Thank you. And goodness. That has super manwich potential. They look very good in uniform. I think the twin is cuter, but only marginally.

Wow, Volker is a snooze. That guy behind him is going to sleep.

Volker got a LONG statement

he's definitely calling out Giuliani

R395

Putin was feeling pressure from the Magnitsky Act, post-Ukraine invasion sanctions, and being kicked from the G8.

He supported Trump because he had leverage over him.

I wish someone on our team would say flat out that Nunes et al are trying to create soundbites for Fox News rather than actually trying to exonerate Donald of Orange.

Ambassador Volker for the block, Peter!

Since when is "panicked" a synonym for "delirious with joy" R 374 ;)

Volker is supposed to be a GOP witness? He's pretty much clearing Biden, further debunking all the conspiracy theories that have already been discredited.

Volker is seriously trying to bore us to death.

Volker is seriously trying to bore us to death.

Volker argues that Giuliani is the source of fake, negative information and that Vice President Biden had no connection with corruption in Ukraine.

R403 Volker was on the GOP witness list...

Says a lot about the strength of their defense, huh?

How the hell would Melanie have panicked about the hospital trip? She fucking lives in Maryland with her secret Secret Service lovah.

What is with the constant parade of people behind the speakers. It's distracting. You should have to remain seated until transition to Q&A.

Pay attention, this is the beginning of the Giuliani-under-the-bus defense.

Which means desperation, because Giuliani probably has incredibly lethal insurance against Trump.

Even Volker's lawyer is falling asleep.

How I miss Gym Jordan's Blah Blah Blah frentic talk right about now

Volker is blowing up the Republicans' conspiracy theories. He's not boring at all.

Thank you, r394, I was going to post the same thing.

And Volker is supposed to help Trump? He’s done nothing but praise Biden and say accusations against him are not credible. Says he’s known him 24 years. Says accusations against Biden were “unacceptable.”

So what are the next two witnesses going to say? They’re voting for Biden?

lol @ r415

The democratic counsel makes me moist

Volker is there to take the focus off Trump and onto Giuliani. It's not gonna work...

Volker is giving strength to the testimony and characterizations of other fact witnesses by saying it was also new to him, and offering no pushback.

It does shift blame to Giuliani, but also to Trump since they are inextricably linked. I mean, is anyone buying that Giuliani was going rogue in Ukraine?

Actually, it might work. If Guiliani is found to be in legal jeopardy, or maybe even just discredited, he will throw Trump under the bus at the drop of a hat. He has no loyalty to anyone but Rudy.

Volker is saying Giuliani had no idea what he was doing and was unqualified, to put it mildly. That’s gotta hurt.

The betrayals begin, watch 'em run amok stabbing each other in the back...

Morrison looks nervous, uncomfortable....guilty?

Morrison looks nervous, uncomfortable....guilty?

I think the Joe/Hunter Biden red herring was part of the plan from the beginning, an escape route in case Trump and Giuliani's dirty dealings were exposed. They built it right into The Plan.

I have trouble believing they are smart enough for that R424. I do believe their goal was to ratfuck the Ukraine for Putin though. Fucking traitors.

Sen. Rand Paul could force a vote on the Senate floor that would bring Hunter Biden or other White House-favored impeachment witnesses to an impeachment trial.

Paul said on Thursday he’s considering forcing votes on motions in President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial allowing Trump to bring his own witnesses. The Kentucky senator and close Trump ally has urged Congress to call Hunter Biden as a witness for his work at a Ukrainian energy company

They're not that fucking bright. They just wanted the optics of Zelensky announcing some nebulous investigation.

So Morrison says the whole hiding the call transcript thing was just a clerical error? Well, never mind then. Case dismissed!

The won't go nuclear with Biden because if they do and it isn't a HUGE slam dunk they are COMPLETELY FUCKED

All Hunter did was lend his name to a board for cash. I'm sure it's done all time. Big whoop.

Morrison seems to have had 3 stories about the transcript being put away at this point.

Unfortunately for at least a third of the country, what actually happens here is of no importance whatsoever.

It's how Fox spins what happens here that matters because that is the only coverage they will see.

Both of these witnesses were specifically called by the Republicans on the committee.

Ouch.

Morrison looks like a dick head with that frown.

Voldman was already specifically asked if it could have been an error for the conversation to have been saved into the Outlandish Secret Channel and he said 'No' that it was placed there intentionally by lawyers.

Morrison looks like a guy who is going to be charged with and convicted of perjury next year.

R427 They paint with a broad brush. "Hillary poured acid on the server." Nuance and truth are irrelevant. Simple images. Repeated ad nauseum...

FNC is airing this live.

These hearings are riveting.

Think Morrison is doing a fall guy?

I just want to remind everyone: if we didn't go out in November '18 and create the Little Blue Wave- none of this would be happening. Trump would be a despot, raping and pillaging the whole world.

Thank you.

R439 did they not do that before? I don't watch so legit wondering.

r440, no.

Morrison seems to enjoy this... very little. But it is fun to watch. Keep asking counsel, make him more nervous.

Putting the draft call transcript in on high security server CANNOT be a clerical error because there’s a security process and a log to do it. One would only do it intentionally. It’s not someplace you can just hide your torrent downloads and MP3s.

So shifty, this one.

Morrison's eye movements are very telling - he's a sociopath.

It's almost laughable that these two guys were the strongest defendants of Dump's actions that the repukes could find to testify. I mean, it's amazing.

The new tactic seems to be for the Rs to just completely publicly misrepresent what is stated in the inquiry, per Dump's delusional presser earlier today, and, as we saw in session, not allow the witnesses to answer questions and, instead, shout the false narrative during their 5min segments.

It was our secretary Carol.

It’s nice that Morrison brought his mother to sit next to him.

Nunes the clown begins with a joke about ratings. Idiot.

R449 Let's wait for the minority questioning before we judge how effective they are. Really, their testimony makes tomorrow's testimony from Sondland that much more critical.

R451 That's his wife.

Yes, R452, and it fell as flat as a pancake. Nunes is the face of this clown show that they deserve.

So is Fox only airing the Moo the Cow portion, or the whole thing?

R452! i know right! WHAT THE FUCK DOES TV RATINGS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING LOSER NUNES?... "if it's a drug deal, the american public aren't buying it"... HUH?... HOW IN THE HELL DOES NUNES HAVE ANY JOB much less representing a state!.

NOTICE how the repubs are FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER talking about "the american people", "the american public", "the duly elected president by the american people", "trying to overturn the election of the american people" and so on and so on! ANYONE can see this is all so so calculated!..

Nunes and Trump both believe all this is for ratings and no other reason. Neither has any concept of laws, legal obligation or the Constitution. It’s just, “if I stick my tongue out on TV and say neener neener, people will look and I win.”

Gosh, that lame GOP counsel has another 26mins.

How would Nunes even know ratings are down? They don't come out until the next day.

Morrison is handsome.

I've got this shit on mute. I just can't listen to that pinhead anymore. Like it's nice of the GOP to hire a lawyer with an intellectual disability, but I'm not gonna sit here and stare at him try to think.

They shouldn't do two of these a day. Keep the morning session and just add days.

I finally realized who Volker reminded me of.

Who pays the counsel? Is it a set rate? Why use them at all?

Jennifer Hayden @Scout_Finch: Steve Castor has been completely ineffective for the Republicans. He hasn't been able to poke holes in any testimony. Just a complete waste of time.

Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs: GOP mouthpiece Steve Castor currently attempting to bore everyone into submission.

R464 meet R401

R462 He is painfully slow. Best gop could find I assume.

Volker answering questions he isn't being asked. Republican counsel remarkably inept.

And now we know why the Republicans wanted Volker...no quid pro quo, bribery etc.

Can anyone actually follow this with regards to content? This questioning will put me in a coma soon.

How did Morrison find the oldest lawyer in the world?

And now we know why the Republicans wanted Morrison to testify...nothing about the call was concerning except how it would be perceived by partisans, wanted the transcript protected.

r383, I'm going with too-dark Toppik. He should have mixed gray and dark brown.

GOP's counsel is tedious.

Morrison wasn't concerned about the call at all, but made sure it wasn't leaked and moved to a secret server because it was so perfect.

R475 They've gotten the sound bites they wanted, on the record. "No bribery" "no attempt to hide the call"

So, Castor is trying to suggest that Voldman is the Whistleblower.

[quote] They shouldn't do two of these a day. Keep the morning session and just add days.

These two are the ones the Republicans wanted to testify, good on Schiff to schedule them in the afternoon few people will stick around to hear them. I think that was Nunes point, which he made badly, they were testifying in the afternoon when the ratings would be lower.

In hindsight...you are correct, r479.

R470, except he didn’t support that. He revised his testimony in light of later developments.

R481 The soundbite today was: "were you involved in any bribery scheme?" "No, absolutely not."

Nunes and other Repukes constantly mention ratings because it's in their interest to paint the hearings as a circus that no one in the country takes seriously. They've made this absurd claim over and over.

Morrison does not come off like a truthful, credible person. There is something off about him. I bet if Vindman went to him instead of the attorney, all off his concerns would have been buried and never made it to this attorney. Why was he concerned about Vindman? What did he do? Where is the evidence? It just seems like character assassination without any proof.

Tim Morrison goes by the name ‘Tim Mo’ On Facebook

L.A. Times:

Sondland, a key impeachment witness, faces potential credibility questions from both sides

R481, I was referring to why Republicans specifically wanted these two to testify and the soundbites they expected to get and got.

Elise Stefanik's cow print see-through cocktail dress seems totally appropriate for this setting, no?

Note while Republicans just tell blatant lie after lie, Dan Goldman corrects himself that he was incorrect and makes an apology.

@GOP is now claiming Volker is the Democrat’s witness! They’re getting ripped a new one on twitter.

You know you’re in trouble when you have to pretend the witness you called was called by the opposition.

And the weird thing is Volker gave them the soundbite they desperately wanted, r490.

What soundbite? From the thread it seems that Morrison is the one who may have provided the soundbites.

That fucking sniffling gal has passed her germs on to Dan Goldman.

Not smart of Nunes to use the “drug deal” terminology that Bolton used re Giuliano.

He’s reduced to repeating “Bbbbut, the Whissstlebbblowerrr.....“

Nunes is one nasty motherfucker. I can't believe he's just allowed to spew this shit at Schiff.

From twitter:

R490, damn, that's exactly what I thought because I was like, GOP asked for him, not the Dems.

R495, I know, right? He's so gross looking and rude!

R492, he said that he didn't think the call was a quid pro quo, bribery or extortion...and I think he's the one who said he wouldn't engage in such activity. But definitely said that he didn't think quid pro quo, bribery or extortion.

R495, Schiff just smiled and quoted the exact rule he was following, proving that he was just following the normal procedures. Nunes looked the fool once again.

Schiff is EXCELLENT! We must start petitioning Miss Nancy to replace Jerry Nadler with Adam Schiff.

Wow, Morrison's body language right now.

R501 Left shoulder held up tightly. Protecting himself.

Work Adam, WORK!

Those .....pauses.....

I think Morrison is dirtier than anyone knows yet. Someone needs to look into him.

Michael Turner is somewhat queenie.

I spy no wedding ring on Turner's finger.

So you never know.

Morrison may be in for a world of hurt...

Nunes’ opponent is raising money on twitter on this. Here’s one reply:

I’m just back and these guys seem so shady

I’m just back and these guys seem so shady

Morrison jittery... even when a Republican attack dog is asking question.

Devin Nunes got hisself drunk onetime (on dandelion wine out back of the barn), and got kicked in the haid when he tried to milk his daddy's prize bull.

That is why he's special.

If there was ever a forehead deserving to meet up with a bat swinging at the speed of light, it belongs to cow-head, Nunes.

Then aim said bat, tout de suite, at the Lurch-looking, inept, repug-lawyer, Castor.

Then the remaining red scum on the right.

I love watching them unravel.

R506, R507, he's divorced twice over and has two daughters!

Tom Nichols @RadioFreeTom It took me a moment listening to Goldman questioning him to realize that Volker’s answer boils down to: I was too dumb to understand what they meant by “investigate corruption”

Stuart Rothenberg @StuPolitics Volker’s new position is that he is so naive he didn’t know/understand what was going on.

Morrison is "shifty".

Too much, r509!

R515 So by now he's probably given up on women.

R519, I'd hope so. He's against same-sex marriage, but he looks like a guy that would be on Grindr without a face photo asking for a BJ or more. Men like that make me sick, honestly.

Well yes, R488, looks like there's room for a new bovine in town.

"Cowed or bullied"?

Nunes’ opponent Phil Arballo says he’s raised $40,000 today.

This is an anti-Nunes site:

As someone with deplorable parents (not rally goers or hat/shirt buyers), I just have SUCH rage towards Fox "News" and the repubs. They are fucking despicable. Some of you on DL who don't have any relatives in the cult may not realize how strong their beliefs are. Fox and repubs have DRILLED in their heads these impeachment hearings "are a scam, sham, farce, bullshit" and that "the real corruption is with Joe and Hunter Biden."

I don't know what can be done to bring them out of this trance but deplorables are ANGRY. They think the Democrats are impeaching Trump over nothing. Until the prime time assholes on Fox say Trump did something wrong, they WILL NOT BELIEVE OR ACCEPT IT.

I agree about Morrison -- he's shady as hell and is hiding something.

What the hell is Conaway talking about? He just wants to talk! Shut the **** up!

Morrison is a repub. He's not happy having to testify against Trump so he's doing as much as he can not to blast him. He's probably afraid of being attacked on twitter by Trump and the Fox talking heads

I understood Volker to be saying that he was proceeding on the assumption that Rudy, et. al., were talking about generic Ukrainian corruption, including Burisma, without understanding that the Burisma angle involved the Bidens. And, that when he learned what was really involved — i.e., getting Zelenskiy to participate in domestic US politics by investigating the Bidens — he deemed the request inappropriate.

Morrison, on the other hand, is as shady as fuck, and was clearly trying to thread the needle by saying that there was no quid pro quo — at the same time that he was hiding the meeting notes.

Morrison's body language again. It’s like Norman Bates when he got cornered by Arbogast.

Does everyone forget that while Trump was playing games with Zelensky (sp), thousands of civilian Ukrianians died, fled their homes and hundreds of Isis prisoner's are now free . And we blew up a bunch of our weapons that were stored there.

I don't find Volker to be believable. No way is he such an expert on Ukraine but didn't know that Burisma meant an investigation into Hunter Biden. He's just trying to cover his ass now

[quote]Those .....pauses.....

They're great, I must say.

On a purely superficial note, the Dems counsel Goldman is a cutie.

Ghouliani better get indicted. No way should he get away unscathed

I love Adam Schiff but when he is sitting and listening he's reminding me of Carolyn Jones and her role of Morticia Addams. LOL!

Volker is trying to argue a theory that doesn't fucking exist and that no one involved has proposed whatsoever as being anyone's intention. Volker needs to go down for perjury, too. But I am very, very curious at this point about what Morrison is so badly trying to keep hidden.

Oh God, Gym's back...

Gym Jordan, you're a horrible lawyer...quit shouting!

r537, he's not a lawyer! He's a fucking gym teacher from Ohio!

if you think this is something wait for Sondland tomorrow. That will be a fucking shit show. I think the repubs are going to tear into him for changing his testimony but he's not reliable to the Democrats either. No one knows if he'll totally come clean about everything or he'll hold out looking for a pardon. Holmes coming forward to reveal the Sondland-Trump Kyiv cafe phone call threw a wrench in repub plans

Gym Jordan missed his calling. He should have been a televangelist.

[quote]But I am very, very curious at this point about what Morrison is so badly trying to keep hidden.

My guess is it’s all those bodies buried in his back yard.

R538, I know that...that's why I said he's a horrible lawyer, because he's not one and he's trying to be. Maybe a better analogy would be the fat PE teacher telling kids what to eat that's healthy while scarfing down McDonald's and Wendy's meals four times a day.

So Jim Jordan is lauding the Ukrainians for passing a law that no member of the government is beyond the law, while his hero Trump says that he is above the law and shouldn't even be investigated?

Jesus, can you imagine having Gym as your husband and having to listen to this asshole's rants and voice on a daily basis? What a creepy annoying nightmare this guy is.

imagine what he was like as a wrestling coach? I'm sure he screamed at the wrestlers if they messed up

“Morrison is going to...go through some things.”

I want to hear Schiff's closing statement. He's a cool cat. I'm putting off my workout for it.

R538, you lie. He has a JD but hasn't taken the bar exam in Ohio, so the original person was right. He was an assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State during the time of the sexual abuse allegations.

No Allen Ludden but....................

Morrison looks like he's getting to the point where he's going to just blurt out the truth because he can't hold it in much longer, haha. I can't wait until Welch questions him.

Look at Morrison's face, the bug eyes the pressure. He knows he is in possible trouble...

R415 hahaha I was thinking similar things. I just said to someone that the next ones would probably wear Joe for Prez t-shirts in or something.

How these people fall asleep at night with Trump's ugly mug in their heads...it stumps me.

R421 you’ve gotta wonder about a person who is prepared to under bus Rudy. It’s ballsy. I’m no Rudy fan, I think he’s absolutely repellant, but I think he’s the nastiest one. He’d have some absolutely bad shit on everyone and he will come out swinging.

May I just say something about Trump's use of "perfect" call? Trump speaks like a typical ethnic NYer. Like a Lower Eastside Jew from the 50s. So when I see flyover/southern types attempt to dissect it and take it literally, they really aren't getting that he's just speaking like an old school NYer. He may ethnically be a WASP, but he will always sound like a from Queens making a deal with Murray for a rack of furs that fell off a truck Frankie four-fingers stole.

like a GUY from Queens

These witnesses are getting tired. I am too, frankly.

"But I am very, very curious at this point about what Morrison is so badly trying to keep hidden."

I think Morrison was part of the whole cover-up.

But Trump isn’t colorful and lively, like an ethnic New Yorker, R555. He doesn’t have the verbal flair of a Italian or Jewish gangster. To the contrary, he has an extremely limited vocabulary, and no imagination. When he uses a new word, it’s an event; people are right to focus on it.

Here we go with Stefanik...can't stand her as much as I can't stand Nunes and Gym Shorts...

I turned it off and put on local news.

Tomorrow should be a shitshow with Sondland

[quote] R538, you lie. He has a JD but hasn't taken the bar exam in Ohio, so the original person was right.

I’m not R538, but he is correct, R548. Gym Shorts Jordan is a law school graduate who has a JD, but most certainly is NOT a lawyer or an attorney. Those titles are reserved for members of the bar, which Gym is not.

R524, you know what's funny? So many of the people who work at FOX News (in NEW YORK CITY, in case people forgot) are people FOX on air will rail against. I had a friend who worked at FOX who is Muslim. He said "It was just a paycheck." He worked on the website and he'd just shake his head at the stories he'd have to be sure went up. He once said "It's funny how the commenters online go off on bigoted tirades about throwing me out (he's American-born, BTW) or worse, yet I'm the reason that comment gets to go up."

r548, he cannot, has never and does not practice law, thus he is not a lawyer. Having a degree in Art History not make someone a Historian.

Lindsey Graham is a lawyer. What's his excuse?

That's very true, R563. Most of the off camera FOX workers are not conservative and/or Republican.

It was the nitwit from Utah who said the idea that anyone was above the law was absurd and that no one would ever think or say that.…lol

Anybody know how much longer this will go?

R567, Chris Stewart's stupid ass. He's like the guy in high school who ruins the fun when he opens his mouth or decides to partake in something that was fun until he came around.

R568, maybe until 7:15, 7:20 PM EDT I would think.

Joaquin looks and sounds better than Julian. How is that even possible as a twin, LOL?

R530 was Syria and the Kurds not Ukraine. Several thousand Ukrainians were killed by Russia on the border with Russia. People shouldn't forget any of it. We shouldn't be forgetting he put children in cages and 2000 of them are still missing.

Isn’t this getting repetitive?

One identical twin is always hotter, R571. There’s also one with a better voice.

Now Ratcliffe?! This is getting annoying now. Now I feel like I won't watch tomorrow because they have the other people to testify and what if it lasts this long or longer?

Funny, looking at Rat Guy, how he's tried to style his hair. Vanity, vanity... we all want to look nice and have people like us. Even crypto-fascists.

R574 Sondland tomorrow. The main event.

r574, Sondland is tomorrow. That could be can't miss TV.

This guy looks annoyed to be there. Or maybe he is hangry.

OK, that moment was pretty sketchy. Was that Ratface again insinuating that Vindman is the WB and Morrison's ancient lawyer helping him to do that?

R576, good reference to one of my favorite songs by Barbra, haha. But, anyways...he [Sondland] looks like he's a little slow to understand stuff or you have to say it real slow for him to understand first. Maybe it's just the way his face looks to me. Either way...okay, you and R577 talked me into it...I'll watch tomorrow and probably start the thread this time, haha! :P

R578, which guy? Actually it doesn't even matter, because I know I'm hangry right now, haha.

R579, Ratface did indeed. That's why Volker's lawyer interrupted and objected.

From @PalmerReport: How long have today's impeachment hearings been going on? Joaquin Castro didn't have a beard when the day started.

Today's hearings are boring and overlong; they've lost the audience at this point.

Everyone will watch tomorrow, but Thursday may be a bridge too far....

At our family cabin.... kinda douchey.

This dude must even exhaust his therapist.

Surely everyone has heard the story of donald's slapping donald, jr. to the floor when he showed up at junior's dorm to accompany him to football game and found his son not in suit and tie, but in casual attire.

The fartard no doubt gets a big kick out of Simian Gym Jordan's antics, but we know he questions all who will listen, "Can't that ape at least put on a suit jacket?"

Oh good Gym Jordan again, just when I was missing his combover.

I wish those rape victim wrestlers would run a train on Gym Socks.

R582 It's cumulative. The sum-total remains significant evidence bribed Ukraine. Dems think that's not good. Reps think it's ok. Dems will impeach him. Sondland tomorrow may be the point where some Rep Senators would vote to remove, or not. Nothing will shift enough Rep Senators to remove (need 16-18). It's all a constitutional crisis and process that will impact he election. Exactly how remains to be seen.

This Jim guy is my least favorite.

Come on Morrison your face says the opposite of what you are saying.

Peter Welch is the hot granddaddy I would let touch me, LOL.

Is it true that Morrison is so tall that he can tea bag Jordan standing up?

Evertime I see Gym Jordan I hear the theme from Bewitched. He looks like Darrin Stephens.

Morrison has a "mouth tell" when he anticipates he is about to be rolled.

Some day in the future Republicans are going to regret calling the skiff in the basement of the Congress a "bunker" when they are in charge and use it to investigate something they want to.

Jordan is a Gremlin.

Why is that gnome from Ohio up again?

So Morrison covered up for Trump and he's still doing it.

Morrison may be in trouble.

Finally, my real DADDY is on my screen. He's just so handsome to where he doesn't have to say anything - he just has to stand there.

Anyways, Morrison is hiding something. I think after today he will want to amend his testimony before the cameras and I'm not sure he'll be able to do that. I think that's why one of the Rethugs [

Link to day/part 4?

Maloney is my Favorite Gay of the Day.

His wedding pictures are sweet.

R599, Why? I’m not watching it. I am now a dried up skeleton on the sofa, covered in cobwebs.

^Rethugs wanted to and did introduce the idea of absolute immunity.

R602, link please! TIA!

[quote]But Trump isn’t colorful and lively, like an ethnic New Yorker, [R555]. He doesn’t have the verbal flair of a Italian or Jewish gangster. To the contrary, he has an extremely limited vocabulary, and no imagination. When he uses a new word, it’s an event; people are right to focus on it.

Colorful and lively? It's a limited vocabulary which is what they mostly have and Trump speaks that way, too. Not everything is a Scorsese film.

I'm saying that he does in fact speak like an old time NYer - they do in fact come in both the good and bad variety, but the vocabulary is always the same. I'm around people like him all of the time. I grew up in NY. I'm in no way excusing that pos, but you can't possibly be a NYer if you think he doesn't have the typical vernacular of one who has exactly what you've described: A limited vocab. It's like when someone says "I don't know from that" - that's a very NYer way of speaking.

The guy's businesses have always had him dealing with "ethnic" NYers, that's why he doesn't sound like some Choate grad.

What does DL say about Sean Patrick Maloney? Hot daddy or not?

^How exactly is he in trouble? Looks like Morrison isn't telling the truth and everything he knows, but they can't really proof anything.

I also don't get how they all testified that there was no quid pro quo, no extortion and no bribery when everything they described was exactly yhat.

R606

With his husband

a link to part 2 I didn't create it just found it.

Morrison's face needs to be added to the crybaby men meme. He looks like a petulant child up there.