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Hillary: Russians "Grooming" Tulsi for 3rd-Party Run

Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton said Friday the Russians are currently "grooming" a Democrat running in the presidential primary to run as a third-party candidate and champion their interests. "I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said. "She's the favorite of the Russians."

She didn't mention Gabbard by name, but she sure as hell isn't talking about Liz or Amy.

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by Anonymousreply 587November 12, 2019 1:41 AM

This is going to look stupid when she drops out and doesn't run on a third party line. All of the hate against Tulsi is because of her opposition to the forever wars that our country is engaged in. Don't twist it any other way. There is plenty of support for anti-abortion and "moderate" Democrats that aren't her.

by Anonymousreply 2October 18, 2019 4:46 PM

Didn't she say that she believes it's possible that the grooming is happening? She didn't state is as known fact, contrary to the CNN article.

by Anonymousreply 3October 18, 2019 4:47 PM

I saw this somewhere else and just assumed it was rightwing conspiracist asshattery.

That’s a very foolish statement. Hillary sounds like she’s losing her marbles.

by Anonymousreply 4October 18, 2019 4:47 PM

It's her way of "proving" that Jill Stein was a Russian operative of the same sort and since Jill was one of the "99 Reasons and 'I Was A Lousy Candidate' Ain't One" I guess she feels it will vindicate her?

She truly has no dignity left

by Anonymousreply 5October 18, 2019 4:48 PM

If she doesn't run independently, she'll be a paid semi-regular commentator on RT, like Jill Stein, in the next three years.

She's an asset.

by Anonymousreply 6October 18, 2019 4:48 PM

Proto Jill.

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by Anonymousreply 7October 18, 2019 4:49 PM

Jill = asset

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by Anonymousreply 8October 18, 2019 4:49 PM

Any RT dinner invitations?

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by Anonymousreply 9October 18, 2019 4:50 PM

Hillary is nuts and once again proves herself to be a neocon. We dodged a bullet with that one.

by Anonymousreply 10October 18, 2019 4:51 PM

Maybe Russia likes her underlying opinion re gay people.

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by Anonymousreply 11October 18, 2019 4:51 PM

Syria... Russia. Assad and Tulsi.

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by Anonymousreply 12October 18, 2019 4:52 PM

Hillary sounds confused. Talking like this makes me worried about what the situation is with her health.

by Anonymousreply 13October 18, 2019 4:53 PM

Anderson got her.

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by Anonymousreply 14October 18, 2019 4:53 PM

[QUOTE] Hillary is nuts and once again proves herself to be a neocon. We dodged a bullet with that one.

Are you a Democrat? What bullet did we dodge when Trump won?

by Anonymousreply 15October 18, 2019 4:54 PM

Russia has been supporting the Tulsi campaign. That's not a conspiracy theory r2 and r4. That's a fact. Even Tulsi herself acknowledges that.

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by Anonymousreply 16October 18, 2019 5:00 PM

The bullet of getting into another war. We need to end the ones we are already in.

by Anonymousreply 17October 18, 2019 5:01 PM

[quote] Hillary is nuts and once again proves herself to be a neocon. We dodged a bullet with that one.

Silly Sue Sarandon, at r10. There are some kids sitting in cages who would disagree with you. There are minority vicims of violence that don't have the luxury of viewing "the revolution" protected by wealth and access. There is a world that is in a constant state of security related crisis that would love to be dodging the "bullet" of Hillary Clinton rather than the heat seeking missle you helped usher into the WH

by Anonymousreply 18October 18, 2019 5:03 PM

Hillary is right...again..there will be a 3rd party candidate you can bet on it. Unless of course the Russians are done with Trump..but why would they be? He is paying off so well. Putin will probably be at the G7 at Doral.

by Anonymousreply 19October 18, 2019 5:05 PM

Warren is not Hillary Clinton. How would an anti-war Dem candidate position themself against Elizabeth Warren? What are they going to run on? If anything the challenge would be from some Michael Bloomberg type who is running to save us from the scourge of “socialism.” Jill Stein also has no room to get to the left of Warren. She is the candidate whom progressives have been waiting for.

by Anonymousreply 20October 18, 2019 5:12 PM

R16 That may be so, but it is a conspiracy theory to suggest that she's going to drop out and run on a third party line because Russia told her to. That's what is so absurd about Hillary's statement.

R19 There already is a third party candidate, but he's not a Russia hack, he's Howie Hawkins. The thrice time New York gubernatorial nominee who has the largest vote for a third party candidate in the state's history. He has been on the scene for over 30 years so to suggest that Russia put him up to this now (as all of you will say come 2020) is ludicrous.

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by Anonymousreply 21October 18, 2019 5:12 PM

Snatch that wig, Hilary!!!!

by Anonymousreply 22October 18, 2019 5:13 PM

Hilary is right, again. You've been warned. Pay attention.

by Anonymousreply 23October 18, 2019 5:22 PM

So the Left now sees being anti-war as a negative thing.

Good grief. Heaven help us.

by Anonymousreply 24October 18, 2019 5:29 PM

After all the crap that has been said about her it’s only fair she returns the favor.

by Anonymousreply 25October 18, 2019 5:29 PM

If Tulsi wasn’t a foreign asset then why are all the trolls in this thread protesting too much?

You’ve given her stunt away!

by Anonymousreply 26October 18, 2019 5:31 PM

YES, R26.

by Anonymousreply 27October 18, 2019 5:35 PM

This is a great threat to rid myself of insane and stupid Tulsi Gabbard trolls. It's like putting out a moth catcher and a flourescent light. Bye, treasonous cunts.

by Anonymousreply 28October 18, 2019 5:35 PM

Tulsi does love her some Assad, so... maybe.

by Anonymousreply 29October 18, 2019 5:37 PM

I’d love to see Hillary crack up one day and just go off on all her haters.

by Anonymousreply 30October 18, 2019 5:39 PM

Yet either Tulsi or Hillary would be better than trump

by Anonymousreply 31October 18, 2019 5:41 PM

Jill Stein was proven to be taking money and endorsements from Russia. The photos of her at Russian-hosted events are everywhere. So are the campaign finance disclosures.

by Anonymousreply 32October 18, 2019 5:43 PM

This is a little payback for pockmark Tulsi. She purposely created division in the party in 2016 by claiming everything was rigged against Bernie and resigning in a huff from the DNC. Do you think she really gave a shit about Bernie or was her mission simply to piss off his voters and turn them off Hillary?

by Anonymousreply 33October 18, 2019 5:53 PM

Democrats aren't pro war, we are pro keeping our alliances and keeping our word. We had a great deal with the Kurds, only 1K of our soldiers training mostly, it was the best possible scenario without losing many lives and treasure.

by Anonymousreply 34October 18, 2019 5:59 PM

Disgusting smear by Hillary, but nothing new in that.

by Anonymousreply 35October 18, 2019 6:02 PM

I want to see Tulsi deny it

by Anonymousreply 36October 18, 2019 6:05 PM

This is actually a brilliant strategy by Hillary because if Tulsi now goes ahead with this, she'll be a confirmed Russian stooge.

by Anonymousreply 37October 18, 2019 6:15 PM

Wow a lot of trolls on this thread.

Fuck Tulsi Gabbard. I guarantee you she hasn’t evolved one bit.

by Anonymousreply 38October 18, 2019 6:21 PM

I see that all the straw-man trolls from the "Trump on Syria is like a stopped clock" thread have migrated over here.

by Anonymousreply 39October 18, 2019 6:23 PM

Hillary should know. She's had a direct line to Putin & gang for years.

by Anonymousreply 40October 18, 2019 6:44 PM

R40?

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by Anonymousreply 41October 18, 2019 7:49 PM

Old girl is getting into conspiracy theories these days. Is this something that happens to old people?

by Anonymousreply 42October 18, 2019 7:53 PM

Exactly, R38.

Actually the Russian/Tulsi/DUMP trolls are helping us out.

Read R1, R2, R4, R10, R13, and R35, and you will be able to see all of the reich-wing talking points.

I'm glad that they're trolling us now, so that we can use it against them during the election.

Fucking cunts.

by Anonymousreply 43October 18, 2019 7:54 PM

What R38 sez...

[Quote] Fuck Tulsi Gabbard. I guarantee you she hasn’t evolved one bit.

by Anonymousreply 44October 18, 2019 7:57 PM

The russian-bots are quite active on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 45October 18, 2019 8:00 PM

While I voted for her because what was the alternative I'm not a Hillary fan but I believe her on this. I totally believe her. Now the question is just how stupid are Democrats. We know Trump supporters won't vote for her but will Biden, Sanders or Warren supporters be so stupid again if the primary doesn't go their way.

by Anonymousreply 46October 18, 2019 8:03 PM

Hillary is just pushing Chelsea, the Melissa Rivers of politics.

by Anonymousreply 47October 18, 2019 8:05 PM

[quote] themself

No...just...no.

by Anonymousreply 48October 18, 2019 8:05 PM

I pushed the ignore button and trolls are talking to themselves pro and con. Guess Hillary was right...

by Anonymousreply 49October 18, 2019 8:10 PM

R43 Seriously?

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by Anonymousreply 50October 18, 2019 8:10 PM

R34 Democrats are absolutely prowar, what world are you living in

by Anonymousreply 51October 18, 2019 8:12 PM

Hillary is merely stating what had been obvious for quite some time now.

by Anonymousreply 52October 18, 2019 8:13 PM

[quote] Democrats are absolutely prowar, what world are you living in

Omg, if you're going to troll, you're definitely going to have to do better than that, you fucktard.

by Anonymousreply 53October 18, 2019 8:13 PM

An NBC News analysis of the main English-language news sites employed by Russia in its 2016 election meddling shows Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is set to make her formal announcement Saturday, has become a favorite of the sites Moscow used when it interfered in 2016.

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by Anonymousreply 54October 18, 2019 8:13 PM

Is there any way we can sell Hawaii to Russia?

We need to get rid of this commie CUNT.

by Anonymousreply 55October 18, 2019 8:15 PM

Tulsi aborted Putin's baby in 2007. Fact.

by Anonymousreply 56October 18, 2019 8:16 PM

Quick, Henry...!

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by Anonymousreply 57October 18, 2019 8:17 PM

I realize this thread is largely a troll-fest, but:

(1) Tulsi is hardly the only anti-war candidate, though she might be the only one who's met with Assad.

(2) I've never heard her advocate for any other left-wing/progressive causes other than ending our "regime change wars" (by which she mostly just means pulling our troops out of Syria). In fact I've rarely heard her talk about anything else, period.

(3) Isn't it strange that a woman who constantly portrays herself as the fiercest anti-war advocate also feels the need to harp on endlessly about her military experience, and stress that the president's most important role is as commander-in-chief?

(4) 9 times out of 10 when I see someone defending her on Twitter, it's people who also like assholes like Mike Cernovich, if not the assholes themselves.

How she has any lefty admirers is a mystery to me.

by Anonymousreply 58October 18, 2019 8:20 PM

[quote] How she has any lefty admirers is a mystery to me.

That's the key right there.

She doesn't.

It's all propaganda, coming from Mother Russia.

Just like the lies they spewed during the 2016 election, they're trying to pull the same bullshit in 2020.

That's why we have to fight this crap. HARD.

by Anonymousreply 59October 18, 2019 8:23 PM

[quote] The russian-bots are quite active on this thread.

Not to mention the (barely) human Tulsitards.

by Anonymousreply 60October 18, 2019 8:24 PM

She’s at zero percent but I agree with Hil, there is some alternate plan here.

by Anonymousreply 61October 18, 2019 8:35 PM

R56, well?

by Anonymousreply 62October 18, 2019 8:36 PM

Tulsi:

Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton . You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...

... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...

... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.

by Anonymousreply 63October 18, 2019 8:49 PM

[quote] You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party

Those are REPUBLICAN talking points.

If you didn't think that Cuntsi was a russian plant before, well now you have your answer.

by Anonymousreply 64October 18, 2019 8:52 PM

No denial of running the 3rd party, bitch is pissed Hillary blew her cover.

by Anonymousreply 65October 18, 2019 8:55 PM

Go, Hillary!

by Anonymousreply 66October 18, 2019 8:56 PM

Told you she shouldn't have run her mouth. Of course, Tulsi is going to respond when she shit talks her like that. Hillary is a fool.

by Anonymousreply 67October 18, 2019 8:59 PM

Anyone here know why Tulsi is always wearing white?

Is she our virgin Dem, goddess?

by Anonymousreply 68October 18, 2019 9:00 PM

I think some Democrats need to push a prominent Republican to run on a third party ticket to take votes away from Trump, Gov. Bill Weld would do nicely.

by Anonymousreply 69October 18, 2019 9:00 PM

[quote] Hillary is a fool.

The only fool I see, is that Russian plant Tulsi Gabbard.

Whoring herself out to Putin and Assad.

Her head needs to be on a pike as well, when DUMP and his criminal family go down. She's part of it.

by Anonymousreply 70October 18, 2019 9:03 PM

Tulsi isn't clever enough to go toe to toe with Clinton. Her Twitter response was predictable and downright pathetic, spouting out well worn FOX propganada from almost twenty years ago.

Surprised some of Sanders group hasn't retweeted it, but they're too ripping Elizabeth Warren apart. They don't give a shit about the democratic party. They want Bernie or no one. They will be even worse if Biden gets the nomination.

by Anonymousreply 71October 18, 2019 9:07 PM

Tulsi is out and no one cares enough about her for her to be a successful 3rd party candidate

by Anonymousreply 72October 18, 2019 9:08 PM

Tulsi DESTROYED Hillary here 🥰

Hopefully this brings HIGH ENERGY to the Tulsi campaign

It’ll also be a self-fulfilling prophecy when Tulsi runs 3rd Party because they smeared her too hard out of the Dem party. Why is our party so retarded?

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by Anonymousreply 73October 18, 2019 9:09 PM

Did Tulsi stop off at Palm Springs and catch smallpox from Susanne Somers?

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by Anonymousreply 74October 18, 2019 9:14 PM

Twitter is schooling Tulsi.

by Anonymousreply 75October 18, 2019 9:14 PM

[quote] Hopefully this brings HIGH ENERGY to the Tulsi campaign

Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Nobody gives two shits about this cunt.

She can't even get to 1%. The only way she still manages to be on the debate stage, is because the russians are donating to her campaign.

Americans HATE her.

We know that she's a complete phony, fake, and a liar.

by Anonymousreply 76October 18, 2019 9:14 PM

R68 Tulsi is a member of the Hare Krishna cult and that is why she always wears white.

by Anonymousreply 77October 18, 2019 9:18 PM

Thank you, R74. I have now lost my appetite and won't be eating anything for at least a week. Now if you'll excuse me I need to go and throw up. Again.

by Anonymousreply 78October 18, 2019 9:18 PM

Tulsi and her dad HATE gays

by Anonymousreply 79October 18, 2019 9:19 PM

What's it to 'em???

by Anonymousreply 80October 18, 2019 9:20 PM

Tulsi used the Twitter the way I suspect Hillary wanted. She is far away from Hillary’s league. She should step back and try to get work from Fox.

by Anonymousreply 81October 18, 2019 9:22 PM

The new Jill Stein, whose cover was blown.

by Anonymousreply 82October 18, 2019 9:22 PM

Hill exposing these trash bags, I love it. More!

by Anonymousreply 83October 18, 2019 9:24 PM

[quote] Tulsi isn't clever enough to go toe to toe with Clinton.

Hilarious! Clinton wasn't even clever enough to outwit Trump.

by Anonymousreply 84October 18, 2019 9:27 PM

This is a great thread to block. I was right when I blocked a couple weeks ago. The trolls that, judging by responses are sucking on Gabbards ass are the same racist, Russia loving turds put here to stir the shite. See R73 to R77 etc.

by Anonymousreply 85October 18, 2019 9:28 PM

Outwit rump? Lol that imbecile is a screaming turd baby. Anyone can outwit your turd in power boris.

by Anonymousreply 86October 18, 2019 9:30 PM

Tulsi isn't even smart enough to deny being a Russian asset. Anyone with half a brain would have said that FIRST and before they started spewing Russian propaganda.

by Anonymousreply 87October 18, 2019 9:31 PM

Clinton's race is run and probably best for everyone if she keeps a low profile, especially on anything dealing with Democratic candidates. If she speaks it's better as madame stateswoman.

Though this pretty much cock blocks any chance of Gabbard running as a third party candidate. So maybe Clinton had a goal...

by Anonymousreply 88October 18, 2019 9:31 PM

[quote]So maybe Clinton had a goal...

Ya think?

Hillary is going to expose every bit of skulduggery and shit she sees in this campaign. Early and often.

She is NOT going to stand by and see the eventual Democratic candidate undermined the way she was. And still is.

by Anonymousreply 89October 18, 2019 9:35 PM

[quote] Though this pretty much cock blocks any chance of Gabbard running as a third party candidate.

Very cool.

by Anonymousreply 90October 18, 2019 9:35 PM

How does Tulsi even know Hillary was talking about her in the first place? Clinton only named Jill Stein.

This dumb ass basically shined a spotlight on herself.

by Anonymousreply 91October 18, 2019 9:36 PM

Tulsi responds:

Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...

... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...

... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.

by Anonymousreply 92October 18, 2019 9:37 PM

Her challenge for the House seat.

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by Anonymousreply 93October 18, 2019 9:38 PM

Russian trolls are out in force on this thread

by Anonymousreply 94October 18, 2019 9:41 PM

LOL, Tulsi is SO OBVIOUS on R14's link talking about Kruschev, Gorbachev, and Stalin, why doesn't she just come out and say, " I'm a pawn of the Russian state." There's a difference between keeping up a dialogue with a Foreign Leader as a Head of State so you can Keep them on their toes, and completely bowing down to a murderous thug who practices Genocide like Assad, who at the same time is getting into bed with our Enemies ( also Russia) by importing massive amounts of weapons and military personnel to expedite your evil objective. Gurl, you need to re-think your strategy.

by Anonymousreply 95October 18, 2019 9:42 PM

Just donated to her Dem opponent.

by Anonymousreply 96October 18, 2019 9:47 PM

[quote] Hillary is going to expose every bit of skulduggery and shit she sees in this campaign. Early and often.

[quote] She is NOT going to stand by and see the eventual Democratic candidate undermined the way she was. And still is.

And I back Hillary ONE THOUSAND PERCENT.

She's not going to stand idly by, this time. Thank goodness.

She has seen the damage DEPLORABLES have caused this country, and she'll be damned if she'll let it happen again.

First order of business: Take down Comrade Tulsi.

Step Two: Destroy Donald DUMP.

by Anonymousreply 97October 18, 2019 9:49 PM

[quote] Hillary is going to expose every bit of skulduggery and shit

Hillary IS skulduggery and shit. Her arrogant smug ass is the reason we have Trump in the White House. Sit down and shut the fuck up, Hill.

by Anonymousreply 98October 18, 2019 9:52 PM

Even fake Hillary on SNL was right during the election.

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by Anonymousreply 99October 18, 2019 9:52 PM

R2, R4, etc., I don't get why you are defending Tulsi. Hillary is far from the only one who is suspicious of Gabbard's motivations.

And don't forget that Tulsi used to work for her father's anti-gay marriage organization.

by Anonymousreply 100October 18, 2019 9:53 PM

Go sit on Vlad's face, Tulsi.

by Anonymousreply 101October 18, 2019 9:53 PM

Hillary warned of the vast right wing conspiracy....

by Anonymousreply 102October 18, 2019 9:54 PM

Ha the idiot rump trolls are being exposed left and right, this is a block party y'all!!!

by Anonymousreply 103October 18, 2019 9:56 PM

Nice, r96!

by Anonymousreply 104October 18, 2019 10:01 PM

R100 There may be some people who are going overboard in their defense of Tulsi, but it's quite obvious where the animosity towards her is coming from, and it's not her anti-abortion or anti-LGBT record. It's her opposition to endless war and our desire to pull our troops home. I think she'd make a shitty president as she'd be just as bad as Obama in trying to "find compromise" with a GOP that isn't interested in it, but she'd be a great Secretary of State for a Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren administration. Shutting her out is foolish not only because she's not going anywhere (her congressional primary challenger is doomed to fail), but because you alienate a large segment of the anti-war base of the Democratic party which will cost us in key swing states.

by Anonymousreply 105October 18, 2019 10:07 PM

I don't want to hear the word "Russia" again, for a decade at least. This has all been so painfully pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 106October 18, 2019 10:09 PM

[quote] but it's quite obvious where the animosity towards her[e] is coming from, and it's not her anti-abortion or anti-LGBT record. It's her opposition to endless war and our desire to pull our troops home.

Oh yeah, because so many DLers are part of the military-industrial complex, Boris.

by Anonymousreply 107October 18, 2019 10:10 PM

Natasha at R106.

by Anonymousreply 108October 18, 2019 10:11 PM

R105, I don't buy it.

First, Gabbard is not going to get many Democratic votes when she attacks the first woman Democratic nominee the way she did today. It was way over the top.

Second, she's a Russian asset. She even spoke out against impeaching Trump and only changed her mind a couple of weeks ago when she realized she was the only Dem in the race that was doing so.

by Anonymousreply 109October 18, 2019 10:12 PM

Even if Hillary is right (which she may be), I don't understand why she's stooping to this. Whether Tulsi remains a Democrat or runs third party, she doesn't have a chance in hell.

by Anonymousreply 110October 18, 2019 10:16 PM

[quote] she'd be a great Secretary of State for a Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren administration. Shutting her out is foolish not only because she's not going anywhere (her congressional primary challenger is doomed to fail)

Dream on, Boris.

by Anonymousreply 111October 18, 2019 10:17 PM

Hillary was RIGHT about everything she said about Trump and she's right about this too; Tulsi is a Putin plant and she has NO BUSINESS running for the Democratic nomination.

Hell, she has no business as a Democrat period.

Basically, fuck Tulsi.

by Anonymousreply 112October 18, 2019 10:19 PM

R110, It’s about retaining voters at the margin. They matter and she’s going to drive some of them away by saying it was rigged and unfair, and the military-industrial complex is against her, etc. Regardless of whether that’s true, it hurts the chance of the Dem being elected because that shit is going to appeal to them. It’s somewhat like Jill Stein last time.

by Anonymousreply 113October 18, 2019 10:22 PM

[quote]Whether Tulsi remains a Democrat or runs third party, she doesn't have a chance in hell.

Well of course she doesn't. Tulsi know this. Her "supporters" know this. Her Russian handlers know this. EVERYONE knows this.

The goal of Tulsi and the Comrades is to be a spoiler in the race, much like Stein and (unfortunately) Sanders were in 2016.

Frankly, I hope the precisely 16.5 people who are planning to vote for her will just stay home.

by Anonymousreply 114October 18, 2019 10:22 PM

R108 Are you a reader?

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by Anonymousreply 115October 18, 2019 10:23 PM

Tulsi is so toxic. It’s resentment and some kind of personality disorder that the Russians have tapped into.

by Anonymousreply 116October 18, 2019 10:23 PM

Don’t click on r108. You might get Boris malware.

by Anonymousreply 117October 18, 2019 10:25 PM

R115, that is.

by Anonymousreply 118October 18, 2019 10:25 PM

Tulsi may have borderline personality disorder.

by Anonymousreply 119October 18, 2019 10:26 PM

Tulsi doesn't want to tangle with Amy Klobuchar; or Pete again.

HRC told the truth. People like Tulsi fucked her over.

by Anonymousreply 120October 18, 2019 10:29 PM
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by Anonymousreply 121October 18, 2019 10:29 PM

Karma is a bitch Tulsi!

by Anonymousreply 122October 18, 2019 10:30 PM

Bernie has opposed every sanction on Russia.

No to him, Tulsi, and that Jill.

by Anonymousreply 123October 18, 2019 10:31 PM

[quote] Karma is a bitch Tulsi!

Haha, I see what you did there, Hills!

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by Anonymousreply 124October 18, 2019 10:31 PM

R107 PSA: DL is not the mainstream consensus. Brought to you by Common Sense for America PAC.

by Anonymousreply 125October 18, 2019 10:35 PM

Plese burntard was probably in on it as well, he helped the anti Hillary Russian propaganda.

by Anonymousreply 126October 18, 2019 10:35 PM

Kamala is probably enjoying this too.

by Anonymousreply 127October 18, 2019 10:37 PM

[Quote] Oh yeah, because so many DLers are part of the military-industrial complex, Boris.

[Quote] Natasha at R106.

Everyone who I disagree with is named Natasha or Boris. The DL guide to avoiding reading opinions that don't coalesce with my own.

by Anonymousreply 128October 18, 2019 10:38 PM

Tulsi's response is trending on Twitter

Fucking Hillary

It's ALWAYS about her.

Orange Twittler is betraying allies and getting closer to impeachment, the leading candidates are picking up steam and

PAY ATTENTION TO ME! YOUR FORMER CO-PRESIDENT!!

I'M GOING TO START A BEEF WITH A CANDIDATE FEW OF YOU HAVE EVEN HEARD OF!!

LET'S MAKE TRUMP LOOKS NOT-THAT-INSANE

ME! ME! ME! ME!

by Anonymousreply 129October 18, 2019 10:49 PM

Tulsi is polling so poorly and is a non factor. All the pointless allegations of being a russian asset is just growing the number of her supporters. Why is Hillary even talking about it?

by Anonymousreply 130October 18, 2019 10:51 PM

** Hillary never said she Tulsi was a Russian asset

** Hillary said one of the Democratic candidates was probably being GROOMED by the Russians

** Hillary didn't mention her by name

** The news media did because it's a known factor that she is

** The person Hillary SAID was a Russian asset was Jill Stein

** Tulsi's personal attacks against Hillary are straight from RNC talking points

** Tulsi Gabbard is a Republican in Democrat clothing

by Anonymousreply 131October 18, 2019 10:57 PM

[quote] Why is Hillary even talking about it?

Because Tulsi is shifty and cloaked out. Hillary put a marker on her ass so if she tries to spoil the election later by riling up wingnut Stein and Sanders type voters it will be even more obvious.

by Anonymousreply 132October 18, 2019 10:58 PM

Don't change, Hill.

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by Anonymousreply 133October 18, 2019 11:01 PM

r129 you could cut and paste your Hillary-hating rant and put it in the Meghan Markle-hating threads, and it would be perfectly at home.

by Anonymousreply 134October 18, 2019 11:02 PM

Thank you r33, I'd been seeing BernieBros defending Tulsi today and had forgotten all about that; now it makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 135October 18, 2019 11:06 PM

Seriously R131?

You mean the fact that Co-Prez used the term "she"

Because we all know that Amy Klobuchar, Liz Warren, Kamala Harris and Marianne Williamson are frequently accused of being Russian assets too.

Mayor Pete too because BITB DLers will call Pete "she"

Had to be one of those.

by Anonymousreply 136October 18, 2019 11:09 PM

Done R134!!!

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by Anonymousreply 137October 18, 2019 11:12 PM

r137 good job, I'm proud of you! And as predicted, you sound like one of the deranged anti-Meghan loons. It's a perfect match!

Shouldn't you be at a #yanggang fundraiser about now?

by Anonymousreply 138October 18, 2019 11:13 PM

It's obvious Tulsi is meant to be a spoiler -- look at her tweets, she's literally saying HRC is running and Tulsi has to fight back against her.

Several varieties of troll are still trying to scare people by acting like HRC is running, and that's exactly what Tulsi was trying to say, too.

by Anonymousreply 139October 18, 2019 11:21 PM

Tulsi Gabbard's response to Bill Barr's lying summary of the Mueller report was to AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPT BARR'S WORD the next day (weeks before the redacted report was released) and call for everyone to move on.

How is she not Putin's fool?

“What we know is that Mueller reported that his investigation revealed no such collusion. Now we all need to put aside our partisan interests and recognize that finding the president of the United States not guilty of conspiring with a foreign power to interfere with our elections is a good thing for America."

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by Anonymousreply 140October 18, 2019 11:25 PM

Other than me and Meghan Markle, who else do you stalk on DL R138?

by Anonymousreply 141October 18, 2019 11:26 PM

Tulsi sounds like a feminine hygiene product.

by Anonymousreply 142October 18, 2019 11:27 PM

Fuck Hillary

by Anonymousreply 143October 18, 2019 11:28 PM

I don't stalk you, dear r141. You just keep turning up with asinine viewpoints in threads I'm interested in, and you must, therefore, be destroyed.

by Anonymousreply 144October 18, 2019 11:28 PM

[quote] The person Hillary SAID was a Russian asset was Jill Stein

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by Anonymousreply 145October 18, 2019 11:28 PM

Who are these Republicans posting all these weak memes?

by Anonymousreply 146October 18, 2019 11:29 PM

I tend to think that Hillary is just awaiting her opportunity to enter the Democratic pool of candidates. This is just the beginning of her attempts to thin the herd.

by Anonymousreply 147October 18, 2019 11:31 PM

YMF is a Republican troll pretending to be a Biden supporter.

by Anonymousreply 148October 18, 2019 11:31 PM

Yes, she's thinning the herd by calling attention to the fact that the lowest polling candidate is being groomed by the Russians for a 3rd party run, r147 🙄🙄🙄🙄

by Anonymousreply 149October 18, 2019 11:34 PM

[quote] This is just the beginning of her attempts

Beginning?

by Anonymousreply 150October 18, 2019 11:37 PM

Our beloved Tulsa's tweet was retweeted like 10,000 times in the first 2 minutes. That's perfectly normal for a candidate polling at .00009%, right?

by Anonymousreply 151October 18, 2019 11:38 PM

R149: Predatory animals always attack the weakest of the herd.

by Anonymousreply 152October 18, 2019 11:47 PM

Tulsi is such an obvious Russian plant it's pathetic to see her defended on DL. Pulling even 1% away from the Democratic candidate in a close election is a huge win for Russia.

by Anonymousreply 153October 18, 2019 11:50 PM

Van Jones can go. to. hell. as soon as he gets out of the bed he shares with The Kushners.

He was just on CNN running down Hillary and saying she's smearing Gabbard.

Fuck you, Jones. Go back to kissing the ass of Jared and Ivanka.

by Anonymousreply 154October 18, 2019 11:55 PM

Tulsi is Jill Stein 2.0

by Anonymousreply 155October 18, 2019 11:55 PM

Exactly, r155 and her going along with Barr's bullshit proves it.

And Erin Burnett was right in there with Jones running down Hillary and defending Gabbard.

by Anonymousreply 156October 18, 2019 11:57 PM

[quote] Tulsi is such an obvious Russian plant

We really should open an investigation into all this Russian collusion.

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by Anonymousreply 157October 18, 2019 11:58 PM

Fuck off, Dmitri at r157.

by Anonymousreply 158October 18, 2019 11:59 PM

Caroline Orr @RVAwonk · 1h It’s important to point out here that a Russian “asset” is not the same thing as a Russian “agent”. An asset can be witting or unwitting; it’s any person or org who can be used to advance Russia’s interests. It’s pretty clear that Tulsi satisfies that criteria.

by Anonymousreply 159October 19, 2019 12:09 AM

Olga, ivan, Dimitri, Boris etc. Are working overtime. Poor them getting paid 5 cents by the post.

by Anonymousreply 160October 19, 2019 12:10 AM

Tulsi & her dad were anti-gay activists. And were harsh about it. She claimed her views have changed as she ran for Congress, and now as a Dem primary candidate. Even now, her support of LGBT is largely muted except when she gets a question about it.

by Anonymousreply 161October 19, 2019 12:11 AM

Tulsa is getting dragged through the mud on twitter, serves the Russian plant bitch right.

by Anonymousreply 162October 19, 2019 12:15 AM

There are a small handful of DLers who still want to live inside of Big Momma Hillsys vulva and feed off her vaginal secretions.

by Anonymousreply 163October 19, 2019 12:16 AM

[quote] Tulsa is getting a whole lot of attention on Twitter which means that legitimate candidates like Pet and Warren are being ignored along with Trump's latest insanities. The Russians plan to activate Useful Idiot Co-President seems to be working.

FIFY R162

by Anonymousreply 164October 19, 2019 12:18 AM

Several journalists on Twitter have noted the moment they either a. say something negative about Gabbard; b. say something positive about Harris; that they are immediately swarmed with armies of anonymous trolls. Lord knows where they come from, but somewhere east of Kiev would be a solid guess.

Which certainly doesn't make Gabbard look any less guilty.

The facts are: HRC said WITHOUT NAMING ANYBODY that there was a "Russian asset" among the D candidates, referred her in feminine pronouns. Tulsi immediately called HRC every name under the sun.

Gabbard has essentially confirmed that she's a Russian asset. All evidence points to it.

by Anonymousreply 165October 19, 2019 12:18 AM

There is a lot of (Russian? probably) money behind her. On a road trip late in August we stopped somewhere in PA and there was a large Tulsi billboard in the shithole town of Easton. 15 months before the election for a candidate who has no following. I’m getting Tulsi banner ads when I visit certain Democratic sites. I haven’t seen any for the other candidates yet. Someone is bankrolling her big time.

by Anonymousreply 166October 19, 2019 12:19 AM

It's sad when trolls like r147 try a tactic that was already exposed on the thread long before they got here. Milo used to do that too, it was funny how bad he was at trolling.

I also think YMG is AYB but it's just a hunch.

by Anonymousreply 167October 19, 2019 12:19 AM

That's a big job to groom that Pineapple Pizza face

by Anonymousreply 168October 19, 2019 12:23 AM

It’s a SMEAR CAMPAIGN! Tulsi and her squads of flying Russian monkey-bots has been pushing the SMEAR CAMPAIGN narrative as hard as Trump and his Twitter machine have banged their WITCH HUNT drum.

No Tulsi, when people ask you about your incongruous opinions on certain particular issues and the motivation behind those opinions it’s not a smear, it’s politics. You chose to run for office and if you can’t stand even polite questioning it’s not meant to be.

The way she acted in her recent NPR interview was straight out of the Trump playbook: deflect, claim persecution, attack the interviewer’s credibility.

And yes, YMF was exposed as a nut job several weeks ago so don’t listen to a word she says.

by Anonymousreply 169October 19, 2019 12:26 AM

The bots are out in full force on twitter slamming Hillary & declaring Tulsi Gabbard a great American peacenik. It’s so funny because if only 1/10th the number of bots were real people Gabbard would be in 3rd place instead of polling at 2%.

And no wonder DNC is such a fucking mess. This bitch was vice chair of DNC until 2016. She stepped down in order to endorse Sanders, Trump & Russia’s 2016 candidate.

by Anonymousreply 170October 19, 2019 12:36 AM

[quote]The facts are: HRC said WITHOUT NAMING ANYBODY that there was a "Russian asset" among the D candidates, referred her in feminine pronouns. Tulsi immediately called HRC every name under the sun. Gabbard has essentially confirmed that she's a Russian asset. All evidence points to it.

All that Hillary hatred obscures any common sense.

And her moronic defenders "Well, it isn't Marianne, it isn't Kamala, it isn't Elizabeth she's talking about." also admitting that she's a Russian agent.

Hillary hate brings out the wackadoodles circling their wagons in sheer stupidity!

by Anonymousreply 171October 19, 2019 12:37 AM

Why did HRC bother bringing this up? Read about half the responses on this thread.

Russians are actively fucking with the 2020 election as we speak, and the US govt is doing fuckall about it.

by Anonymousreply 172October 19, 2019 12:39 AM

I'm not impressed with this Tulsi person. She isn't smart enough. I was just flipping channels and ok she's on Tucker Carlson, she blamed Hillary Clinton for the Iraq war (idiot) and then imagined a presidential race with only her and Hillary it in. Fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 173October 19, 2019 12:39 AM

The unhinged Hillary-haters have been groomed by 30 years of rampant misogynistic anti-Hillary propaganda from the RNC (and then Bernie Sanders). They're still bitter over Bernie losing the nomination.

by Anonymousreply 174October 19, 2019 12:40 AM

A lot of paid Hillary bots are posting I see.

by Anonymousreply 175October 19, 2019 12:41 AM

r173 of COURSE she's on Fox News. The right wingers love her.

by Anonymousreply 176October 19, 2019 12:41 AM

r175 nice try, but Hillary isn't running for anything and doesn't need paid bots, unlike Russian stooge Tulsi Gabbard.

by Anonymousreply 177October 19, 2019 12:42 AM

Never forget Tulsi is buddies with Steve Bannon. She's a Republican in disguise and absolutely a Russian asset.

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by Anonymousreply 178October 19, 2019 12:43 AM

[quote]A lot of paid Hillary bots are posting I see.

Some are just people with mental issues.

by Anonymousreply 179October 19, 2019 12:44 AM

[quote]I was just flipping channels and ok she's on Tucker Carlson

Wait, she's WHAT?? Okay, she's telling us not a real Democrat. On top of telling us to believe Barr about collusion and meeting with Bashar Assad.

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by Anonymousreply 180October 19, 2019 12:44 AM

304k tweets about her as of right now. Girlfriend is trending like nobody's business. 😩

by Anonymousreply 181October 19, 2019 12:46 AM

I am genuinely curious why my comment about Hillary thinning the herd as so offensive to some of you. All are entitle to their own opinion, but I don't understand why I am being called a troll and being compared to Milo. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 182October 19, 2019 12:47 AM

The other fake lefty defending Gabbard today is also a regular on Tucker Carlson's show - Glenn Greenwald.

by Anonymousreply 183October 19, 2019 12:58 AM

Your smears are not working! The same ones have been sung for years. Tulsi’s mana grows with every attack! 🥰🥰🥰

No one cares about the same Assad/Russia/Cult/Homophobe daily drive bys. Just like “RACIST!!!” has made most Americans roll their eyes, this Russia stuff makes them roll it even harder. Now you have Queen Tulsi looking like an outsider warrioress against the corrupt machine because - shocker - people do NOT LIKE HILLARY. And I voted for her - twice!

Hillary just could not STAND Tulsi jabbing at her during the debate (“safe legal and rare” and “I don’t see deplorables, I see Americans”) and had to show her hand.

by Anonymousreply 184October 19, 2019 12:58 AM

Tulsi has been on Tucker Carlson multiple times in the past. Nothing new for her.

Megyn Kelly was also recently on Tucker's show, in case anyone wonders if she's turned a page.

by Anonymousreply 185October 19, 2019 12:59 AM

r184 don't you have a "Gays4Tulsi" post to make somewhere?

Seriously, the Tulsi bots on this site are ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 186October 19, 2019 1:00 AM

Rogan famously exposed the idiocy of the "Assad toadie" critics here:

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by Anonymousreply 187October 19, 2019 1:02 AM

Trolls not bots, R186.

Accurate language matters.

by Anonymousreply 188October 19, 2019 1:02 AM

Go have sex with yourself, r188.

by Anonymousreply 189October 19, 2019 1:06 AM

r187 quoting right winger/Libertarian Joe Rogan is not helping your point.

by Anonymousreply 190October 19, 2019 1:07 AM

[quote] Just like “RACIST!!!” has made most Americans roll their eyes

Racist Americans, anyway.

[quote] people do NOT LIKE HILLARY. And I voted for her - twice!

Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 191October 19, 2019 1:07 AM

For being a Democrat Gabbard spouts an awful lot of Russian-friendly talking points, even parroting Putin word for word sometimes.

She's been all over that heinous Breitbart site, and she lied about an Assad front-group paying for her trip to Syria.

by Anonymousreply 192October 19, 2019 1:09 AM

Leave Tulsi Alone!

by Anonymousreply 193October 19, 2019 1:10 AM

[quote]Go have sex with yourself, r188

I have a guy to help out with that, you illiterate toad.

by Anonymousreply 194October 19, 2019 1:13 AM

[quote]Rogan famously exposed the idiocy of the "Assad toadie" critics here

I don't see him exposing anything in that clip. I see him tearing down the use of the word "toadie," which is a straw man argument in this case (however you want to characterize her, Tulsi met with Assad and endorsed his view of the Syrian war and of US allies who oppose his dictatorship). And I see Rogan misrepresenting and downplaying Tulsi's homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 195October 19, 2019 1:15 AM

Once again: Tulsi is a whack job who was about the get eliminated from the debates and fade back into tropical obscurity.

But thanks to The Co-President Who Didn't Get Impeached playing into the hands of the Russians, she's getting more play than any of the legitimate candidates in the race: Mayor Pete, Warren, Bernie, Biden are being ignored while she plays out her beef.

Worse still, Hillary has now created exactly what Trump wanted: a distraction.

DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO ME SELLING OUT THE KURDS AND ALL MY DIPLOMATS TALKING TO SCHIFF ABOUT HOW I WAS INDEED DOING A QUID PRO QUO ON THE UKRAINIANS.

PAY ATTENTION TO CROOKED HILLARY AND CRAZY TULSI FIGHITNG IT OUT ON TWITTER!!

WAY MORE ENTERTAINING!!!

DID I SAY CROOKED HILLARY?

ASK HER ABOUT HER EMAILS TULSI

by Anonymousreply 196October 19, 2019 1:16 AM

For R191:

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by Anonymousreply 197October 19, 2019 1:20 AM

"That Letter to the President of Turkey? What about Crooked Hillary slandering Tulsi Gabbard?"

--DJT, with the distraction the Kompramateers kreated for him

by Anonymousreply 198October 19, 2019 1:21 AM

Oh please, Trump made his own distraction with that Doral announcement. That was timed to drive his OTHER corruptions from the news cycle.

by Anonymousreply 199October 19, 2019 1:23 AM

Sorry, you don't get to blame Hillary Clinton for pointing out the facts—that Tulsi Gabbard serves as a Russian asset—especially when she was talking about various things and didn't even name Tulsi, and the issue only really blew up when Tulsi herself tweeted out a rabid declaration of a forever feud between her and Hillary.

And what's with this "co-president" business? YourMillennialFriend sounds like an old-time Clinton-hater from the 90s. Is she sure she's a millennial?

by Anonymousreply 200October 19, 2019 1:29 AM

I never believed YMF was a real millennial. Mid-boomer, yes.

by Anonymousreply 201October 19, 2019 1:31 AM

"Bannon appreciates Gabbard’s willingness to publicly criticize President Obama for refusing to name the enemy, 'radical Islamic terrorism.' 'For him it’s a win-win when a Democrat is saying those things,' said a third source, who used to work under Bannon at Breitbart News."

That was in 2016. Then it turns out that the "radical Islamic terrorists" she was referring to were our allies in Syria.

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by Anonymousreply 202October 19, 2019 1:37 AM

Per twitter.: Tulsi showed up an hour late for an IA campaign event to do a live interview on Fox.

The fact that she's showing more hostility to HRC than Trump is....telling.

by Anonymousreply 203October 19, 2019 1:37 AM

You have to wonder where her money is coming from, when she hasn't shown herself to be anything exceptional as of yet.

Probably one of the many Russiapublican strategies is to run a bunch of flaky fake Democrats, Libertarians, Greenies, etc. to siphon-off Democrat votes. You know if they put out the bait, the dummies will fall for it.

by Anonymousreply 204October 19, 2019 1:38 AM

Tulsi doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to the campaign. attacks on Tulsi actually don't matter, because she doesn't matter. It's done. She should return to the compound and preach whatever horseshit her cult teaches. She just doesn't matter. at all. Whatever she was supposed to accomplish in this campaign for Uncle Putin has failed. Return to the compound and reflect. Any third party campaign will be a wet fart and nobody will care. It is done.

by Anonymousreply 205October 19, 2019 1:41 AM

Does anyone else remember one of the wackiest Russian ploys of 2016, the California secession movement that turned out to be run by an American living in Moscow?

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by Anonymousreply 206October 19, 2019 1:45 AM

[quote]Mayor Pete, Warren, Bernie, Biden are being ignored while she plays out her beef.

Let's play with this for a moment : And that's Hillary's fault how? She's trying to make sure the same thing doesn't happen to the potential nominee that happened to her.

If anything, the nominees need to step up their game, and stop leaving all the dirty work to Hillary, and stand behind her for a change. This would be a great launching pad for a good Harris counterattack, especially given how hard Tulsi went after her before.. And it would be nice if Biden took some initiative considering that this whole move to impeach happened because they were trying to dig up dirt on him and smear his family.

Bravo to Booker for his post. The others need to start bringing it. Say what you want about Hillary, she still inspires more interest than ALL of the current nominees put together. And that is NOT a good thing at this point.

by Anonymousreply 207October 19, 2019 1:46 AM

r203, just like Jill Stein.

by Anonymousreply 208October 19, 2019 1:50 AM

So she's against the "forever wars" (to the exclusion of pretty much any other policy) but she's also super adamant about "naming the enemy, 'radical Islamic terrorism'" (I suppose just naming it will make it all go away). How does anyone fall for this woman's flagrant bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 209October 19, 2019 1:54 AM

Now Hillary is to blame for the other candidates being uninspiring, as if that's supposed to be an excuse .

Bill Clinton and Obama would have been able to work this to their advantage. But by all means let's blame Hillary if the current nominees can't rise to that challenge. Because everything is her fault among the delusional.

by Anonymousreply 210October 19, 2019 1:54 AM

[quote]...Tulsi Gabbard (R-Moscow)

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by Anonymousreply 211October 19, 2019 1:56 AM

I'm disturbed that neither Joe Rogan nor Bari Weiss seem entirely clear on the term toadie in that clip. They worry me on a profound grammar nazi level.

by Anonymousreply 212October 19, 2019 1:56 AM

First of all, ugh. 200+ posts already. Is this going to be [italic] ANOTHER [/italic] multi part thread series on non sense? This is getting ridiculous. All it has devolved into is ad hominem attacks and petty nonsense. Really pathetic.

I have to agree with a number of the commenters. It was really stupid for Hillary to bring this up in the first place. Tulsi was polling at like 1%, she's basic a non entity in the race. By making those thinly veiled comments, Hillary immediately gave Tulsi's sagging campaign a tremendous boost (as seen by the fact that her name is trending outside of a debate) and is putting her in a position to become a viable candidate. Clearly there is some personal animosity between the two that goes beyond politics, but this is just helping the Republicans and the attacks need to stop now. Also, unless Hillary is planning to run again (hopefully she isn't), then she really should follow the lead of the last actual Democratic president, Obama, and sit this one out. Let the voters decide.

by Anonymousreply 213October 19, 2019 1:58 AM

Tulsi is CFR. Doesn't that make a big difference?

by Anonymousreply 214October 19, 2019 2:01 AM

R53 I'm not trolling it's a fact. wake up

by Anonymousreply 215October 19, 2019 2:13 AM

[quote]Clearly there is some personal animosity between the two that goes beyond politics

Do you have anything to back up this ad hominem argument? Hillary's accusation would seem to fit the evidence that Tulsi is, in fact, a Russian asset by any definition of the term.

Also, in the event it didn't do us a whole lot of good that Obama "sat that one out" in so far as he didn't (perhaps couldn't) follow through on warnings about Russian interference in the 2016 election.

by Anonymousreply 216October 19, 2019 2:14 AM

[quote] It was really stupid for Hillary to bring this up in the first place.

Hillary did it to remind people of one of the ten thousand and one reasons other than her own mistakes she claims cost her the election. When she breathes her last, it will be to gasp out a new excuse. Her therapist needs to be sued for incredible incompetence.

by Anonymousreply 217October 19, 2019 2:21 AM

I am Boris Russian troll and Tulsi no Russian asset. According to Dimitri is always been Hillary.

by Anonymousreply 218October 19, 2019 2:23 AM

Heading into 2020, Hillary is a career politician who has pioneered a lot of the problems this country has, and is a two time loser. We need to remember this. It’s disgusting that she continues to meddle.

by Anonymousreply 219October 19, 2019 2:24 AM

I hate Tulsi and don't necessarily doubt she's a Russian plant but you can't be someone with Hillary's platform and be peddling conspiracy theories. And you can tell Hillary knows she is essentially slandering Tulsi because she wouldn't name her directly and only confirmed circumspectly through a spokesperson

by Anonymousreply 220October 19, 2019 2:27 AM

r217 actually no, she didn't. You sound like one of the anti-Markle trolls.

If weren't so cultish, it'd almost be amusing how much virulent hatred Hillary brings out in some people. I'm sure many a thesis has been written on it.

by Anonymousreply 221October 19, 2019 2:27 AM

It's like flashbacks to 2016 R213/R217

I'm not sure what the deal is, but there are a core group of DLEGs who worship her and cannot abide anyone saying anything negative about her ever. Which is odd given that she's never been a great friend to the gay community, but it is what it is, and it's fun to watch them turn themselves inside out defending her, until it's not and then it's just sad and I avoid the thread.

And right now it's about five minutes to Sad.

by Anonymousreply 222October 19, 2019 2:28 AM

Does the average American even know who is Tulsi Gabbard?

by Anonymousreply 223October 19, 2019 2:28 AM

Nice try, YourMillennialFriend, but you've now been exposed as not a millennial at all, in fact probably even older than a Boomer. Your encroaching senility might account for your compulsion to draw false dichotomies and treat well-deserved criticism of Tulsi as mindless, blanket defenses of Hillary.

[quote]Which is odd given that she's never been a great friend to the gay community

I'm tempted to commit a false dichotomy myself!

by Anonymousreply 224October 19, 2019 2:37 AM

SHADE!

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by Anonymousreply 225October 19, 2019 2:40 AM

r219 she's meddling by giving an interview?

She's a veteran career statesman with decades of experience under her belt in everything from being a lawyer, a governor's wife, ordering White House china patterns, seeing what happens in the White House from the closest view possible other than President, to becoming a US Senator to becoming Secretary of State. She isn't going to disappear, despite some of you wishing she would. Her voice is relevant, and will continue to be.

by Anonymousreply 226October 19, 2019 2:40 AM

r222 you sound EXACTLY like an anti-Meghan loon. Seriously. You think that "well-deserved criticism" is going into a vehement rant about Hillary any time her name is mentioned in any thread, and any small defense of her is met with a huge amount of arrogant disdain, accusing the poster of being a Hillary-worshipper etc. etc. The only choices from your perspective are full-on hatred of the woman that you seem to have given how the mere mention of her triggers you so much, or rabid fandom. Sorry but there's a lot of space between the two extremes. You just can't see it from your viewpoint since you're not motivated by logic or reason in this instance.

by Anonymousreply 227October 19, 2019 2:45 AM

We complain of all the problems our country has. let's take a look at the wonderful pioneers who have brought us to exactly where we are today. People like Hillary, R226. Thes a liar and a thief. Like someone said, we dodged a bullet. She's not our President, and she won't be. She's caused enough problems and damage. She needs to go away before she causes more.

by Anonymousreply 228October 19, 2019 2:45 AM

[quote] Does the average American even know who is Tulsi Gabbard?

They do now.

by Anonymousreply 229October 19, 2019 2:46 AM

r229 no, the average American won't know any more than they did before, if they haven't been following politics. It's not like this is going to come up in the next episode of TMZ.

by Anonymousreply 230October 19, 2019 2:47 AM

"We complain of all the problems our country has. let's take a look at the wonderful pioneers who have brought us to exactly where we are today. People like Hillary, [R226]. Thes a liar and a thief. Like someone said, we dodged a bullet. She's not our President, and she won't be. She's caused enough problems and damage. She needs to go away before she causes more."

This post here should be dissected, analyzed and used in a media ethics class on the subject of trolling, gaslighting and manipulation in the social media sphere.

by Anonymousreply 231October 19, 2019 2:50 AM

Now Trump wants Tulsi for UN Ambassador.

by Anonymousreply 232October 19, 2019 2:51 AM

[quote]It was really stupid for Hillary to bring this up in the first place.

No, it wasn't stupid. People need to bear in mind constantly that Russia is, once again, making an active effort to influence our presidential election, just as they did the last one. That's not a conspiracy theory. The Mueller report demonstrated it very clearly and our intelligence agencies have made it very clear.

Tulsi bears close watching. I don't trust her for a second, and obviously Hillary doesn't either.

by Anonymousreply 233October 19, 2019 2:51 AM

Russia-The Boogeyman For Losers

by Anonymousreply 234October 19, 2019 2:55 AM

It came out in Ronan Farrow's book that Hillary tried to silence him from putting out the Weinstein story. She really doesn't do herself any favors here, and should let people draw their own conclusions about Tulsi.

by Anonymousreply 235October 19, 2019 3:02 AM

I don't look at ads on Facebook, so I am completely safe from Russian election interference.

by Anonymousreply 236October 19, 2019 3:03 AM

[Quote] Also, in the event it didn't do us a whole lot of good that Obama "sat that one out" in so far as he didn't (perhaps couldn't) follow through on warnings about Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Obama does not have a good record in regards to election interference. When he tried to dissuade the UK from voting for Brexit, it blew up in his face. It will blow up in his face with his endorsement of Justin Trudeau now. There are some people who just need to learn to take a seat: he and Hillary are in that club.

by Anonymousreply 237October 19, 2019 3:04 AM

R233 It was stupid because when Tulsi drops out and doesn't run on a third party line or independently, Hillary is going to look foolish putting out a thinly veiled smear that is entirely baseless. Hillary is once again looking to blame anyone else but herself for losing to Donald Trump who she supported through a pied piper strategy. She has terrible political instincts and she only got into elected office by a New York state Democratic party which is notorious for cheating and election rigging.

You want to talk about election interference? Why don't you talk about the Democratic party's cheating of Tiffany Caban out of the Democratic nomination for District Attorney in Queens by removing hundreds of legally cast votes in court? Or the credible investigation into the Board of Elections in Brooklyn throwing out 150,000 legally registered voters before the 2016 Democratic primary? Or how the US has for the last century interfered in the elections of many foreign countries both covertly and overtly, whether through ballot rigging, propaganda campaigns or flat out regime change? The US and Democrats have no place to talk about election interference when this country does it as well. Want to stop Russia from inserting itself into the domestic political conversation? Stop doing it overseas.

Even still, with the Mueller investigation, there was no documented evidence of ballot rigging, election machine hacking or vote total manipulation by Russia. Sharing your opinion on the state of a country's affairs is not credible election interference, unless you're willing to criticize Obama for doing the same thing throughout his eight years in office and today. That's the extent of what is being criticized by Hillary and the party plutocrats who support her. It's ridiculous and a complete distraction from focusing on what should matter; eliminating poverty, raising the middle class, ending police brutality and bringing our troops home from needles wars.

Any candidate who doesn't support that agenda and/or actively attacks those that do will not get my vote. I'm not going to vote for Tulsi, but these attacks will continue to happen to good candidates so long as Hillary is seen as an elder statesman in the party. She had her chance. She blew it. Time to gracefully exit the stage and let someone else lead us to a better tomorrow.

by Anonymousreply 238October 19, 2019 3:21 AM

nobody is going to give a rat's ass about this whole trauma in a week, let alone after Election Day. Trump will have literally killed somebody, maybe a Kurd, pretty much for the fuck of it, in a month and that's what we'll be talking about, with various levels of "concern."

by Anonymousreply 239October 19, 2019 3:32 AM

Somebody honestly thinks we dodged a bullet by getting Trump instead of Hillary? And specifically we dodged a bullet on thievery? Oh Boris, it is to make the laughing.

by Anonymousreply 240October 19, 2019 3:33 AM

Hillary is absolutely correct that she is a Russian asset. Russians have made that clear with their money and Russian online help that they heavily favor her ratfucking in the democratic primary. I'm assuming Hillz knows a little more behind the scenes about Tulsi's true agenda and made this pre-emptive strike knowing she was planning a 3rd party run. Look at what Mrs. Gabbard is saying, ohh its rigged against me, ohh democrats never gave me a chance blah blah blah. Hillz is saying don't trust this bitch because she's trying to divide dems and to me it's obviously the truth.

by Anonymousreply 241October 19, 2019 3:46 AM

What elections has America interfered in?

Some evil warlords in Timbuktu who marry 10 year olds?

by Anonymousreply 242October 19, 2019 3:49 AM

R242 The Brexit campaign, the last French Presidential election and the last German elections along with elections in all of the nations mentioned below.

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by Anonymousreply 243October 19, 2019 4:06 AM

I'm not going to post a million articles detailing this, but it happens all the time and you hear not a peep about it from any major political figure or the mainstream media. The same is not true when it's done to us.

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by Anonymousreply 244October 19, 2019 4:09 AM

oh please, that's just stupid. The US did not "interfere" in the Brexit campaign or the French presidential election or the German elections. Don't you think they would have said so? (The Germans did, in fact, accuse the Russians of interfering.)

It's true that, MANY DECADES AGO, the US interfered outrageously in a few of the countries on that list (Chile, Iran, Dominican Republic, maybe a few others), but the rest are ridiculous, based on an absurdly broad notion of "interference" versus the kind of foreign policy that every country in the world conducts. It reminds me of the "the DNC stole the primary from Bernie" ridiculousness.

by Anonymousreply 245October 19, 2019 4:20 AM

R245 "Cuba Twitter" is not a form of election interference? Isn't that essentially what the US accused Russia of doing in 2016? Using social media to manipulate public opinion? And I'm pretty sure telling UK voters that you'll be put "in the back of the queue" if they voted for Brexit is a form of election interference; one that didn't even produce the results that Obama thought it would. As I've said, when we engage in this behavior, we don't have the right to complain when other nations do the same thing to us. Our engagement in the world lays out the foundations of international action. Without an international set of laws (like an enforceable UN), it's devolves into the principles of an eye for an eye. When one nation does it (ours), it gives permission to other nations to do the same thing to us. It will only stop when we stop it.

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by Anonymousreply 246October 19, 2019 4:28 AM

𝐂𝐍𝐍’𝐬 𝐕𝐚𝐧 𝐉𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐬 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐬 𝐇𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝐂𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨𝐧: 𝐒𝐡𝐞’𝐬 𝐏𝐥𝐚𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚 ‘𝐕𝐞𝐫𝐲 𝐃𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐆𝐚𝐦𝐞’ 𝐆𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐀𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐓𝐮𝐥𝐬𝐢 𝐆𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐫𝐝

Clinton alluded to someone in the Democratic primary race the Russians are “grooming” to be a third-party candidate, saying, “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.” A spokesperson for Clinton made it clear she was, in fact, referring to Gabbard.

Gabbard fired back calling Clinton the “queen of warmongers” and invited her to get into the primary race herself instead of hiding behind “proxies.”

A very wary Van Jones told Burnett that Clinton is “playing a very dangerous game”

[quote] If you’re concerned about disinformation… that is what just happened, just throw out some information, disinformation, smear somebody. She is Hillary Clinton. She’s a legend. She’s going to be in the history books, she’s a former nominee of our party, and she just came out against a sitting U.S. congresswoman, a decorated war veteran, and somebody who’s running for the nomination of our party with a complete smear and no facts.”

“Tulsi Gabbard was picked out by the Democratic Party and put at the top of the DNC. They thought she was going to be their golden girl,” Jones continued, “and she got that position in the DNC and she looked around and saw Debbie Wasserman Schultz and other people, Clinton allies, doing stuff they shouldn’t have been doing in the primary and Tulsi publicly quit and endorsed Bernie Sanders and it’s been payback hell ever since.”

“I’m telling you, Hillary Clinton is playing a very dangerous game. I do not want someone of her stature to legitimate these attacks against anybody. If you’ve got real evidence, come forward with it. But if you’re just going to smear people casually on podcasts, you are playing right into the Russians’ hands.”

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by Anonymousreply 247October 19, 2019 4:35 AM

Andrew Yang also came out to say that Hillary was disrespectful in her comment towards Tulsi. Hillary is a nasty woman and now there is no doubt!

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by Anonymousreply 248October 19, 2019 4:41 AM

Van Jones defending comrade Tulsi, what's his angle? Whose payroll is he on?

by Anonymousreply 249October 19, 2019 4:42 AM

The same van Jones that creams himself over how presidential Trump is acting??

by Anonymousreply 250October 19, 2019 4:44 AM

r248 I was reading the replies to that tweet, i'm surprised so many in the Yang crowd weren't into him defending Tulski

by Anonymousreply 251October 19, 2019 4:44 AM

Hillary is right, Tulsi is a Russian stooge (like Stein and Bernie), and I enjoy her frank "no fucks left to give" attitude!

by Anonymousreply 252October 19, 2019 5:31 AM

Hey now, this Yang feller has a point. He seems really non-shifty for a Jap!

by Anonymousreply 253October 19, 2019 5:31 AM

Where the hell was this hillary during the election? She should have trashed talked rump and bernie instead of playing nice. She doesn't give a fuck anymore and I'm here for it.

by Anonymousreply 254October 19, 2019 5:51 AM

[quote] They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.

It's well documented that *Hillary* did this, not Tulsi:

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by Anonymousreply 255October 19, 2019 5:53 AM

Nice try r187 but Joe Rogan has never done anything "famously."

by Anonymousreply 256October 19, 2019 6:16 AM

And r255 confirms that the trolls are at the desperation stage, using archive and Google links to try to mask the shitty alt-right fake news site they're linking to.

I follow a lot of tech people on Twitter and they've shown time and again that Tulsi trolls and bots are a real thing that exists, and they operate like the MAGA bots do. The trolls see Tulsi as a disruptor and promote her crazy, but they don't realize she has far less popularity than Jill Stein did in 2016, and liberals aren't so much upset as they are irritated.

by Anonymousreply 257October 19, 2019 6:22 AM

She was there lurking in the shadows R254. This Hillary came out to play a few times.

However, I think she knew (like the candidates are learning now) attacking people doesn't always help you.

She uttered the word "deplorable" and they never let her forget it even if she was right.

by Anonymousreply 258October 19, 2019 6:23 AM

Wow, the vitriol on this thread is remarkable. Who knew that people were so enthusiastic about endless foreign wars? Make no mistake, that’s what Tulsi Gabbard is being singled out and attacked for. That is the only policy position setting her apart from the other candidates. She is a threat to the neoconservative consensus that has taken over Washington. The military industrial complex sees Gabbard as a genuine threat.

We’ve been at war for 18 years continuously now - when will it be enough? I’m 50 years old, and my country been at war in the Middle East off and on since I was a child. I don’t want us to always be at war. When does it end?

by Anonymousreply 259October 19, 2019 6:41 AM

r259 Shutup Trumpy

by Anonymousreply 260October 19, 2019 7:01 AM

[quote]That is the only policy position setting her apart from the other candidates.

That's her only policy position period, as far as I can tell. And who are all the other candidates advocating for endless war? Why should I trust someone who drones on so much about her military experience to not, eventually, pursue war (it'll be the "right" kind of war I'm sure, one with the easily achievable objective of wiping out "radical Islam" without stepping on Putin's or Assad's toes too much)?

by Anonymousreply 261October 19, 2019 7:26 AM

Being an "asset" to Russia doesn't necessarily mean you're voluntarily cooperating with or working for them. If you run for president, you're gonna be attacked. Viciously. The trick is to know how to handle it. So far, the Dem candidates have not been doing such a great job. Biden should have immediately attacked Trump, his children, and discussed how Trump is breaking the emoluments clause every single day. And, oh by the way, his story of corruption about me and my son is completely made up.

As for Tulsi Gabard, rather than viciously attacking Hilary, she should have acknowledged that perhaps she is being trolled on Russian sites, but it's something she can't help. What she can do is assure the American people that she in no way approves it or is cooperating, or conspiring or colluding. What Hilary discussed is factual.

by Anonymousreply 262October 19, 2019 7:51 AM

Finally, the truth is out.

And Log Cabin deathfat bitches around here just piss in their nappies. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 263October 19, 2019 7:56 AM

[quote]It was stupid because when Tulsi drops out and doesn't run on a third party line or independently, Hillary is going to look foolish putting out a thinly veiled smear that is entirely baseless.

Exact opposite. Hillary just prevented any third party run. They will automatically be questioned about being a Russian asset. Too bad no one stood up during 2016 to point out Jill Stein's being a Russian asset or we wouldn't be in this position to start with. And, don't get me started on Bernie's Russia licking over the years.

I can't wait for Hillary's follow-up tweet where she pretends she was talking about Marianne Williamson the whole time and it's so strange that Tulsi jumped right in and claimed Russian asset-ness.

by Anonymousreply 264October 19, 2019 7:58 AM

R264 is right.

by Anonymousreply 265October 19, 2019 8:00 AM

I almost agree with R264. I'd take out the last sentence.

by Anonymousreply 266October 19, 2019 8:09 AM

Hillary sure does carry a grudge doesn't she?

After all Tulsi was supposed to get in line as Vice Chair of the DNC to endorse Hillary but Tulsi ended up doing the unthinkable and called out the corruption of the DNC and how Hillary and Bill's influence within the Democratic Party was shaping the party and how the Clinton machine worked hand in hand with the liberal MSM and top it all off she stepped down from the DNC to endorse Bernie Sanders and called out Hillary on Bernie's campaign trail every chance she got..

Tulsi also took her sweet time to endorse Hillary even after the convention was over and Hillary ended up getting the nomination and the DNC was furious at her for that as well.

Oh I still remember how Bernie, Jill Stein were called "Russian assets" back in 2016 for daring to stand up to the corruption within the DNC but it didn't stick did it? Wasserman Schultz was forced to resign as Chair and her replacement Donna Brazile later went on to write a book stating that she was powerless to do anything about how rigged the process was to favor Hillary over Bernie..

Progressives were just waiting for Hillary to inflict herself upon the process and she can't help herself can she as Hillary can't seem to leave the spotlight and this may be a signal that Hillary wants another shot at the nomination for 2020.

Let's not forget either how Tulsi destroyed the establishment darling Kamala Harris campaign and her polls have dropped every since that infamous debate.. Now Tulsi is tied with Kamala in the latest polls and how the mighty have fallen..

The DNC has never forgiven Tulsi Gabbard to this day for turning on Hillary to endorse Bernie and now the DNC and MSM is trying to get payback.

Let's see if Bernie gets asked what he thinks of Hillary's claim and then watch as all hell breaks loose when he gives his answer because we know he will defend Tulsi and maybe he too like Tulsi will call out Hillary to just announce your damn campaign already!

Biden is slipping in the polls and is running out of money and Warren can't be counted on to carry the establishment on her back so here comes Hillary Clinton to the establishment rescue only to lose again to Trump in 2020.

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by Anonymousreply 267October 19, 2019 8:28 AM

Hillary sure does carry a grudge doesn't she?

After all Tulsi was supposed to get in line as Vice Chair of the DNC to endorse Hillary but Tulsi ended up doing the unthinkable and called out the corruption of the DNC and how Hillary and Bill's influence within the Democratic Party was shaping the party and how the Clinton machine worked hand in hand with the liberal MSM and top it all off she stepped down from the DNC to endorse Bernie Sanders and called out Hillary on Bernie's campaign trail every chance she got..

Tulsi also took her sweet time to endorse Hillary even after the convention was over and Hillary ended up getting the nomination and the DNC was furious at her for that as well.

Oh I still remember how Bernie, Jill Stein were called "Russian assets" back in 2016 for daring to stand up to the corruption within the DNC but it didn't stick did it? Wasserman Schultz was forced to resign as Chair and her replacement Donna Brazile later went on to write a book stating that she was powerless to do anything about how rigged the process was to favor Hillary over Bernie..

Progressives were just waiting for Hillary to inflict herself upon the process and she can't help herself can she as Hillary can't seem to leave the spotlight and this may be a signal that Hillary wants another shot at the nomination for 2020.

Let's not forget either how Tulsi destroyed the establishment darling Kamala Harris campaign and her polls have dropped every since that infamous debate.. Now Tulsi is tied with Kamala in the latest polls and how the mighty have fallen..

The DNC has never forgiven Tulsi Gabbard to this day for turning on Hillary to endorse Bernie and now the DNC and MSM is trying to get payback.

Let's see if Bernie gets asked what he thinks of Hillary's claim and then watch as all hell breaks loose when he gives his answer because we know he will defend Tulsi and maybe he too like Tulsi will call out Hillary to just announce your damn campaign already!

Biden is slipping in the polls and is running out of money and Warren can't be counted on to carry the establishment on her back so here comes Hillary Clinton to the establishment rescue only to lose again to Trump in 2020.

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by Anonymousreply 268October 19, 2019 8:28 AM

Progressives are on the attack against Hillary Clinton now for this latest smear.. This time from the Green Party..

Oh Hillary and Bill just go away already!!!

Look at what Hillary and the MSM started with their McCarthyism and they certainly light a fire and that they can't put out and this will distract from the nominee race and if the intention was to get a third party motivated then that is certainly is happening now as the Green Party is back in the spotlight..

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by Anonymousreply 269October 19, 2019 8:45 AM

It's becoming clear Hillary's not going to stop this until the Dem party is a burning pile of ashes.

She's the gift that keeps on giving.

by Anonymousreply 270October 19, 2019 9:08 AM

Trump's supporters also went on and on at length about how he wasn't a warmonger and therefore better than neocon Hillary. That's all this is, but it's even dumber because Tulsi loves war enough to talk about her military record constantly.

No one is fooled by the "you love war which is why you hate Tulsi" and I'd wager the long-winded troll doesn't believe it either.

by Anonymousreply 271October 19, 2019 9:16 AM

R268, R269 and R270: the three reasons why Trump is guaranteed to be reelected. Because, no matter who the selected candidate is, they will be butt hurt if it isn't their candidate, then they'll fail to unite behind the chosen candidate and either sit out the general election or vote for Trump.

It's pretty clear the R268, R269 and R270's are not going to stop this until the Dem party is a burning pile of ashes. They are the gift that keeps on giving. Fixed it fer ya.

Or, on second thought, maybe they're your garden variety trolls, after nuggets like these:

" but Tulsi ended up doing the unthinkable and called out the corruption of the DNC?" Has Tulsi ever bothered to call out the corruption of Donald Trump and the Republican Party which pales in comparison?

"It's becoming clear Hillary's not going to stop this until the Dem party." As if any further proof is needed. Only lazy ass Russian or Republican trolls say Dem or Dem Party.

"Look at what Hillary and the MSM started with their McCarthyism." Pretty strong words there. Have you ever criticized Trump and the Republicans for their McCarthyism? Considering how it was Donald Trumps beloved mentor, Roy Cohen, invented McCarthyism and have been using some variation of it since then, i.e. The Communist menace, The Viet Nam Domino Effect Menace, the get tough on crime menace, the gay marriage will destroy society as we know it menace, etc, etc., etc.

by Anonymousreply 272October 19, 2019 9:33 AM

Progressives like Jill Stein and Sue Sarandon can go fuck themselves with a live wire for all I care. And yes go on vote for the Shitty Green Party again since we're going to die anyway. So fucking what? But an obese troll like R269 will die first in January 2021.

by Anonymousreply 273October 19, 2019 9:47 AM

[quote]Anyone here know why Tulsi is always wearing white?

Maybe it's her way of signaling Russia she is still onboard.

by Anonymousreply 274October 19, 2019 9:56 AM

Even Van Jones from CNN is blasting Hillary Clinton for throwing out smears with no facts to back them up and yes Van Jones also brings up the fact that Tulsi was at one time being groomed by the Democratic Party to be the "golden girl" of the DNC where she rose to Vice Chair and resigning that post to endorse Hillary's rival Bernie Sanders and heavily criticizing Hillary while campaigning for Bernie earned Tulsi the wrath of the establishment and "it's been payback hell ever since".

Van Jones also throws in a dig of his own towards Hillary by casually smearing Tulsi Hillary is "playing right into the Russian's hands".

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by Anonymousreply 275October 19, 2019 10:38 AM

R270

Yes Hillary certainly is the gift that keeps on giving and no doubt she still believes it is her turn.....

Clintonism is practically dead within the Democratic Party and you can thank Bernie and progressives for that.. But the Clintons still do wield power within the establishment and the MSM is at their beck and call so this reemergence of Hillary Clinton all of a sudden back into the headlines isn't coincidental..

Which makes me think she is throwing out feelers about throwing her hat into the ring to replace Biden as the establishment pick. Which means Warren has worn out her welcome as a roadblock to Sanders with her flip flopping on Medicare For All for example.

Yes we all know she reportedly didn't rule out running again in 2020 then changed her mind that she wouldn't run in 2020 but the chaos that is the Biden campaign with dropping polling numbers and dwindling fundraising may have spurred Hillary into reconsidering if the establishment wing is urging her to.

by Anonymousreply 276October 19, 2019 11:02 AM

Of course Andrew Yang supports Tulsi, with the stupidest possible tweet. Does he know anything but math?

[quote]Andrew Yang 🧢 @AndrewYang 10h Tulsi Gabbard deserves much more respect and thanks than this. She literally just got back from serving our country abroad.

by Anonymousreply 277October 19, 2019 12:12 PM

^ he is pretty much getting slammed on Twitter for that, too.

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by Anonymousreply 278October 19, 2019 12:15 PM

I think Hills knows shit we don't

by Anonymousreply 279October 19, 2019 12:49 PM

T. Fisher King @T_FisherKing · 10h Please note Andrew didn't jump this quick to defense of Harris after racist attacks or Buttigeg after homophobic ones

But for his fellow Alt Right totem ?

Sure

by Anonymousreply 280October 19, 2019 12:56 PM

Russia's propaganda network is cheering for her:

RT @RT_com · 15h 'Queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption': Tulsi Gabbard DRAGS Hillary Clinton after 'Russian asset' claim (link removed)

by Anonymousreply 281October 19, 2019 1:01 PM

Russian bots have #IAmTulsi trending on Twitter

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by Anonymousreply 282October 19, 2019 1:16 PM

Russian bots have #IAmTulsi trending on Twitter

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by Anonymousreply 283October 19, 2019 1:16 PM

here is the definitive evidence that Tuls is a compromised russian bot. Guess who is defending her?

Susan Sarandon ‏Verified account @SusanSarandon Follow Follow @SusanSarandon MoreSusan Sarandon Retweeted Michael Tracey

.@TulsiGabbard deserves to be on that debate stage. We need her voice.

by Anonymousreply 284October 19, 2019 1:22 PM

American men vote for who they want to bang (Melania).

by Anonymousreply 285October 19, 2019 1:29 PM

The Aspie-ish way she kept droning REGIME-CHANGE WAR at the last debate sort of reminded me of Antonia, Nicole Sullivan's tard character on [italic]MadTV.[/italic]

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by Anonymousreply 286October 19, 2019 1:30 PM

The Aspie-ish way she kept droning REGIME-CHANGE WAR at the last debate sort of reminded me of Antonia, Nicole Sullivan's tard character on [italic]MadTV.[/italic]

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by Anonymousreply 287October 19, 2019 1:30 PM

Tulsi mocked the Clinton tour on the Rogan show:

[quote] I would love to pretend to be a banker, put a lizard skin face mask on, go sit with those bankers and listen to one of those conversations that Hillary Clinton got paid a quarter of a million dollars for.".

"Yeah, never released the transcripts," Gabbard added.

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by Anonymousreply 288October 19, 2019 1:34 PM

Why doesn't Hillary run, oh yeah I forgot.

by Anonymousreply 289October 19, 2019 1:44 PM

[quote] Please note Andrew didn't jump this quick to defense of Harris after racist attacks or Buttigeg after homophobic ones

As if Mayor Booty ever defended any of the female candidates against sexist attacks. Are you really going to play that game?

by Anonymousreply 290October 19, 2019 2:02 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 291October 19, 2019 3:07 PM

At least Tulsi got the David Duke KKK endorsement.

by Anonymousreply 292October 19, 2019 3:17 PM

All I have to say is that Hillary was right about Trump and Russia and look where where we are. People may not like the messenger, but that doesn't mean that the message should be ignored.

by Anonymousreply 293October 19, 2019 3:19 PM

Tell us about it Hillary.

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by Anonymousreply 294October 19, 2019 3:23 PM

Yeah they hate each other.

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by Anonymousreply 295October 19, 2019 3:25 PM

Seething hatred.

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by Anonymousreply 296October 19, 2019 3:26 PM

The way he looks at her, were they fucking?

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by Anonymousreply 297October 19, 2019 3:27 PM

"Hillary just canceled her appearance at an event next week that Tulsi Gabbard is also attending."

Your source is that paragon of journalistic virtue the Daily Mail? HA.

Tulsi wishes it was about her. Hillary pulled out to protest the inclusion of Kirsten Nielsen.

Gabbard is rotten to the core and not to be trusted.

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by Anonymousreply 298October 19, 2019 3:33 PM

Jimmy Dore nailed here on his show on what happens when you dare cross the corrupt Democratic Party and expose their ties to the liberal MSM and on what also happens when you take on the military industrial complex and the pro-war MSM .

You get smeared with no actual facts but lots of innuendo which is good enough it seems for the gullible..

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by Anonymousreply 299October 19, 2019 3:55 PM

[quote]Gabbard is rotten to the core and not to be trusted.

And Hillary isn't? At this point any adult who doesn't realize that ,in both parties the biggest political names all get funding from the same billionaires in the US and in foreign countries, is an idiot. There is lots of foreign money in our political system, it's just not talked about.

Grow up and stop acting like this is a fight between two equal sides. Our political system is about the fight between all those with money (foreign and domestic) and the American people.

The system is corrupt. What I want to know is why is Hillary even giving Gabbard the free press? Marianne Williamson polled higher than Gabbard and if she were still debating she would more than likely still be polling higher than Gabbard. Is Gabbard a threat with her half dozen followers?

Unless you want to help boost someone's profile it's always smarter to ignore them.

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by Anonymousreply 300October 19, 2019 3:57 PM

This thread is starting to stink like a Russian whore's pee soaked bed on a hot Moscow summer day.

by Anonymousreply 301October 19, 2019 4:03 PM

[quote] Which makes me think she is throwing out feelers about throwing her hat into the ring to replace Biden as the establishment pick.

Yes, many of us are excited to see 24x7 Hillary coverage, "My Turn" merchandise, sold-out stadium tours, etc., but let's be realistic. We may not see these things until 2024 or 2028 at the earliest.

The bombing of Russia may take even more time.

by Anonymousreply 302October 19, 2019 4:04 PM

Geezus R299, what color is the sky on that LaLa planet you're from?

by Anonymousreply 303October 19, 2019 4:07 PM

Ugh this thread has become infested with Bernie-loving alt-right douchebags.

by Anonymousreply 304October 19, 2019 4:07 PM

[quote]What elections has America interfered in? Some evil warlords in Timbuktu who marry 10 year olds?

Are you really that naive?

"Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media"

"Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda "

This Guardian article is from 2011 (under the Obama/Biden administration), years before the so-called Russian "hacking" scandal.

Please explain to us why you think the Russians shouldn't retaliate.

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by Anonymousreply 305October 19, 2019 4:09 PM

R305 aww Putin-loving Oleg got mad! It thinks that Whataboutism works on Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 306October 19, 2019 4:11 PM

r302 Jimmy Dore is annoying as fuck but before you talk about other people being on another planet you might want to look into the fact that Jimmy was correct in everything that came to pass with Russiagate. It's all on the YouTube you can see it for yourself.

It's unfortunate he's such and unbearable ass.

by Anonymousreply 307October 19, 2019 4:12 PM

Gabbard is a tankie and everyone knows it, so she’s pressed.

by Anonymousreply 308October 19, 2019 4:13 PM

Somebody call me?

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by Anonymousreply 309October 19, 2019 4:16 PM

[quote]aww Putin-loving Oleg got mad! It thinks that Whataboutism works on Datalounge.

Idiot.

by Anonymousreply 310October 19, 2019 4:21 PM

R299: There is no liberal media. What is wrong with you? You type like a right winger when you go off on these paragraphs of rants.

by Anonymousreply 311October 19, 2019 4:26 PM

I would be very happy if Tulsi is eaten by animals.

by Anonymousreply 312October 19, 2019 4:28 PM

Hopefully gay animals right?

by Anonymousreply 313October 19, 2019 4:38 PM

According to the comments in this thread, Tulsi Gabbard is both a communist and a right-winger. Whew lads.

by Anonymousreply 314October 19, 2019 4:40 PM

[quote] There is no liberal media.

There was a story on Facebook this week that showed CNN actually does have a left-leaning bias.

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by Anonymousreply 315October 19, 2019 4:40 PM

News flash for all you bots, we're on to you. You can't blindside us this time.

by Anonymousreply 316October 19, 2019 4:45 PM

R315 - a Facebook post referencing Project Veritas is about as "fake news" as you can get.

by Anonymousreply 317October 19, 2019 4:49 PM

I've never seen one of those nefarious Facebook ads that swayed the election. And frankly I don't know anyone who has. Could someone post one to see what we're up against?

by Anonymousreply 318October 19, 2019 5:05 PM

So through all of this bullshit, has Tulsi actually DENIED being a Russian asset?

by Anonymousreply 319October 19, 2019 5:07 PM

R319, Yes, MANY times. The warhawks cannot have anyone criticizing their profitable wars or else they're a russian assett.

Hillary is a scumbag and is reminding everyone why the country overwhelmingly rejected her ass.

by Anonymousreply 320October 19, 2019 5:11 PM

[quote] Could someone post one to see what we're up against?

Here are some of the examples. Up to $100,000 was reportedly spent.

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by Anonymousreply 321October 19, 2019 5:12 PM

Would you believe her if she said she wasn't r319?

by Anonymousreply 322October 19, 2019 5:13 PM

r320 are you high? Three million more people voted for her than Trump.

by Anonymousreply 323October 19, 2019 5:13 PM

R315: Project Very Tits run by convicted felon James O'Quif is not a news source. Facebook is not a news source. Sit down and shut up, troll.

by Anonymousreply 324October 19, 2019 5:15 PM

Except the first thing she did was go in on Hillary. No denying. But of course it's so very obvious she is.

by Anonymousreply 325October 19, 2019 5:16 PM

It's clearly obvious how many trolls are here when any thread about < 1% polling Tulsi has a bunch of posts with Whataboitist arguments and lots of memes and links to alt-right "news" sources like Project Veritas.

Imagine, if all these trolls actually could vote in America, she might be more popular! Don't look at the fact that she's the preferred candidate of the Russians and has right-wing/Putin-friendly stances on virtually everything, including gay rights.

by Anonymousreply 326October 19, 2019 5:17 PM

Have to ask how many of you are stupid enough to think that someone who opposes war and all the money we spend on it, who then gets shouted out as a Russian asset by one of the biggest war mongers in politics. . . would actually be a Russian asset.

Show of hands.

by Anonymousreply 327October 19, 2019 5:18 PM

Hilary's type of Democrat are why this country is in such disarray.

by Anonymousreply 328October 19, 2019 5:18 PM

r327 I think the fact that she's state propaganda outlet Russia Today's preferred candidate speaks volumes about how much of a Russian asset she is. But nice try!

by Anonymousreply 329October 19, 2019 5:20 PM

Tulsi has ZERO percent.

Thread closed!

by Anonymousreply 330October 19, 2019 5:20 PM

She is not a Russian plant, you morons! She was on record, long before Hillary opened her big mouth, as saying she would not make a third party run. I can't tell whether you are really this stupid or are actually supporting warmongering Hillary in her corruption. Either way, you should kill yourselves, for it will be better for everyone around you.

by Anonymousreply 331October 19, 2019 5:22 PM

Whether or not she's a Russian asset, she's Fox News' favorite Democrat -- and that's enough to disqualify her for me.

by Anonymousreply 332October 19, 2019 5:22 PM

R332 watches too much cable news.

by Anonymousreply 333October 19, 2019 5:24 PM

r331 it's transparently obvious you aren't a native English speaker, but nice try, Oleg.

by Anonymousreply 334October 19, 2019 5:24 PM

[quote]There was a story on Facebook this week that showed CNN actually does have a left-leaning bias.

Putting aside the fact that nothing on Facebook is trustworthy - CNN has a bias in favor of high ratings. So long as Trump is unpopular among a majority of Americans, they will be slightly harder on him than on his opponent, because they want to attract more viewers.

If Trump were wildly popular, believe me, they would have a right-leaning bias.

by Anonymousreply 335October 19, 2019 5:29 PM

[quote]Hillary is a scumbag and is reminding everyone why the country overwhelmingly rejected her ass.

So overwhelmingly rejected that she received over 3 million MORE votes than her opponent.

That sure showed her now didn't it!

by Anonymousreply 336October 19, 2019 5:30 PM

For you mental midgets screaming about Russian money in politics here is an article for you. It's about foreign money in politics 2019. There is China, Russia, middle eastern etc money in our political system you stupid fucks.

All those benefiting from this money are all those faces you usually see up front in Dem and Rep circles.

Grow the fuck up and learn something you dimwitted assholes.

The link is WaPo. If it won't work I'd be happy to cut and paste it in hope that in the future you will bring some intelligent viewpoints and comments to these threads in the future. I'm getting really tired if this ignorant high school bullshit.

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by Anonymousreply 337October 19, 2019 5:30 PM

R336, those votes came from the coasts. The majority of the states in the union did not vote for her.

California doesnt represent the country

by Anonymousreply 338October 19, 2019 5:31 PM

r337 if you're tired of these threads, you're welcome to fuck right off.

by Anonymousreply 339October 19, 2019 5:32 PM

Neither does Ohio or Florida, shit for brains.

by Anonymousreply 340October 19, 2019 5:32 PM

r338 you are an idiot. The country is made of people.

by Anonymousreply 341October 19, 2019 5:32 PM

[quote]News flash for all you bots, we're on to you. You can't blindside us this time.

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by Anonymousreply 342October 19, 2019 5:32 PM

Then what does California represent - Mars?

Those people on the coasts are Americans too and their vote counts just as much as yours. The majority of the people in the country DID vote for her.

by Anonymousreply 343October 19, 2019 5:33 PM

3 million more votes in CALIFORNIA. In the state she overwhelmingly won and Trump stood no chance in.

Way too much emphasis on that 3 million votes in a system where electoral college decides who wins.

by Anonymousreply 344October 19, 2019 5:33 PM

Bots LOVE memes, it's all they have. Certainly not actual valid arguments.

by Anonymousreply 345October 19, 2019 5:34 PM

R343, California represents California. The fact remains that most states rejected her.

That's why the evil war criminal lost. Lol.

by Anonymousreply 346October 19, 2019 5:35 PM

So it’s just a coincidence that all the radical anti Americans support Tulsi, including Assad?

We are all just imagining it. Nothing to see here.

by Anonymousreply 347October 19, 2019 5:35 PM

If there is one thing I enjoy more than anything, it is picking the corn out of Lord Donald Trump's shit and popping it up. Then I sit back with a huge bowl and enjoy a nice Dinesh D'Souza film.

by Anonymousreply 348October 19, 2019 5:35 PM

r344 damn you really are an idiot. The votes she had came from ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. Nice try though.

by Anonymousreply 349October 19, 2019 5:35 PM

By the way, the hostility between Putin and Hillary Clinton is legendary. Why else would he intervene with such a heavy hand to get Trump elected? So R294 through R297 is being exceptionally stupid.

by Anonymousreply 350October 19, 2019 5:36 PM

I sniff Trump farts.

by Anonymousreply 351October 19, 2019 5:37 PM

Why doesn’t Tulsi ever criticize republicans?

Only democrats?

She hates democracy and freedom. She should move to Syria and take Yang with her.

by Anonymousreply 352October 19, 2019 5:37 PM

[quote]California represents California. The fact remains that most states rejected her.

This must be the argument they push on Fox News. It makes no sense. Do states vote? No. People vote.

We need to abolish the Electoral College.

by Anonymousreply 353October 19, 2019 5:39 PM

It's pretty telling that the only people Tulsi has come out against are other Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 354October 19, 2019 5:39 PM

No 343 if Hillary was so popular it would not have been so close a race.

I mean she was dead heat with Trump EXCEPT for California agruably the most progressive state in the country.

So you overwhelmingly capture a state you SHOULD win but just keep up everywhere else in the country and that means she's popular?

Being popular means it is evident that you are the standout selection for the majority of voters. Not running neck and neck with a circus peanut.

by Anonymousreply 355October 19, 2019 5:39 PM

r355 she won the "popular" vote. That's what it's called Learn English, Oleg.

by Anonymousreply 356October 19, 2019 5:40 PM

I'm starting to get the feeling this isn't the best place to discuss politics.

by Anonymousreply 357October 19, 2019 5:41 PM

If Hillary wants to point fingers, she needs to start with herself. SHE helped Trump get elected with her actions. AND she still doesn't have the decency to stay quiet. Hillary has gone nuts. It is obvious.

by Anonymousreply 358October 19, 2019 5:42 PM

WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH?!?!?

by Anonymousreply 359October 19, 2019 5:43 PM

[quote] Hillary just canceled her appearance at an event next week that Tulsi Gabbard is also attending.

Face to face confrontations are not Hillary's style. The knife in the back is her way.

by Anonymousreply 360October 19, 2019 5:44 PM

What did Hillary ever do that was bad?

We’ll be here all day waiting on a legit answer.

by Anonymousreply 361October 19, 2019 5:44 PM

I eat old people's excrement.

by Anonymousreply 362October 19, 2019 5:44 PM

r359 has a problem with reality.

Goodbye girl.

by Anonymousreply 363October 19, 2019 5:45 PM

R357, If you want an echo chamber where everyone eats up the latest cable news talking points then you're right.

There are progressives here that despise Hillary Clinton and her fellow corrupt criminals like Donald Trump.

by Anonymousreply 364October 19, 2019 5:45 PM

Because r350 nothing was ever proven to have occurred involving Trump. In fact there was speculation that the reason the Dems threw the accusation out there was because they knew there had been Russian interference in the election. . . prompted by them.

by Anonymousreply 365October 19, 2019 5:48 PM

Wow, it's been a long time since I've seen a thread here so overrun with honest-to-god, correspondence-course-English trolls. I thought they'd abandoned this place.

Probably only get worse in the next year, unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 366October 19, 2019 5:56 PM

What glue are you sniffing R365?

by Anonymousreply 367October 19, 2019 5:57 PM

Tulsi Gabbard endorsed by former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke.

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by Anonymousreply 368October 19, 2019 5:57 PM

Naturally, the media goes hyperbolic over a simple question: "Is Russia attempting to influence the 2020 election." and "What tactics, techniques and procedures would they use?". This is no different than 2016 and 2012 when they used the same TTPs to influence the election. This also has nothing to do with Gabbard herself and whether she has any knowledge of Russia's influence plans. She may a stooge they are using to create a wedge in the election.

This is to be expected, and we can expect to see more from China and Iran.

by Anonymousreply 369October 19, 2019 5:58 PM

It is both naïve and very dangerous to believe this isn't possible. Too many are ready to laugh off Hillary Clinton as some crazed bitter woman. Especially after what has come to light already (and it's just the tip of the iceberg really) people should remain vigilant and keep an open mind. As an outsider (expat here), I think I see things a bit more objectively. Most Europeans know that the Kremlin, or KGB have tried to influence many elections around the globe. They're still at it.

by Anonymousreply 370October 19, 2019 5:59 PM

Of course r364 can't name anything Hillary has done that is "corrupt" and illegal.

On the other hand, there's reams of evidence of Tulsi Gabbard's sharp right turn after she won election in Hawaii, stabbing her fellow Democrats in the back along the way. She's attacked them far more than she's attacked Trump, which tells you something.

by Anonymousreply 371October 19, 2019 6:00 PM

Victoria Brownworth 🎃 👻 💀 @VABVOX · 3h Without ever having mentioned Tulsi Gabbard's name, @HillaryClinton got into Tulsi's head, got Tulsi to out herself as emotionally unstable AND got her to promise she wouldn't run as a 3rd party or Independent candidate. Imagine how effective she'd have been as president?

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by Anonymousreply 372October 19, 2019 6:04 PM

Tulsi, you in danger now, gurl.

by Anonymousreply 373October 19, 2019 6:05 PM

Tulsi, you in danger now, gurl.

by Anonymousreply 374October 19, 2019 6:05 PM

Yeah 370 and how many elections have WE influenced around the globe? Numerous. Thing is when WE aim we rarely miss. Trump didn't win because of any outside influence. He won because no one was paying attention. But if you go back and listen to Michael Moore he called exactly what would happen and it did.

We need to make the public aware of just how many elections we have subverted over the years and the devastating impact it has had in those countries. To be ignorant of just how diabolical our own government is and has been keeps us naive and that is the danger it sounds like you want to eclipse judging from your post.

People need to encouraged to smarten up about politics everywhere because there is a movement in governments all over the globe to kill anything that encourages or promotes freedom, populism. The move is to authoritarianism. Best to be able to see it no matter where it is.

by Anonymousreply 375October 19, 2019 6:10 PM

Marianne Williamson defends Tulsi:

The Democratic establishment has got to stop smearing women it finds inconvenient! The character assassination of women who don’t toe the party line will backfire. Stay strong @TulsiGabbard . You deserve respect and you have mine.

by Anonymousreply 376October 19, 2019 6:15 PM

The Duke endorsement is trending on Twitter, where she's getting her ass royally handed to her.

Marianne, you shouldn't have attached yourself to this sinking ship.

by Anonymousreply 377October 19, 2019 6:21 PM

r375 just stop.

Marianne of course will defend her, because she's an idiot who's also polling too low to do anything.

by Anonymousreply 378October 19, 2019 6:23 PM

R378 I believe Marianne's platform is still puppies, kittens and scented candles. Probably acorn squash and feeling your joy in your eggplant. I didn't get much more from her.

by Anonymousreply 379October 19, 2019 6:28 PM

[quote]has right-wing/Putin-friendly stances on virtually everything, including gay rights.

Politicians evolve on gay rights. Certainly Obama and Hillary did.

Is Gabbard allowed to?

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by Anonymousreply 380October 19, 2019 6:28 PM

So long time KKK icon and Republican David Duke tweets about supporting Tulsi and people are believing it?

Timing not suspect? Fact he's a Republican not suspect?

Just woke up and decided "You know today would be a great day to tweet some support for that little colored gal, what the hell is she anyway? Tulsi Gabbard."

This is the kind of thing that signals it just might be time to throw in the towel on humanity. Too stupid to live.

by Anonymousreply 381October 19, 2019 6:29 PM

r380 let me know when she actually does.

by Anonymousreply 382October 19, 2019 6:30 PM

r381 are you suggesting it's a plot by the Republicans because they see Tulsi as a threat?

Bahahahahaha.

Fun Fact: David Duke also endorsed Donald Trump.

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by Anonymousreply 383October 19, 2019 6:31 PM

Julian Castro's too smart to jump in with a Tulsi endorsement:

Tim Perry @tperry518 · 14h WATCH: @JulianCastro won't say if he believes fellow Dem @TulsiGabbard is is being groomed by Russia to be their asset.

Castro says "I have a lot of respect for Secretary Clinton and I’ll just leave it at that."

by Anonymousreply 384October 19, 2019 6:41 PM

[quote]We need to make the public aware of just how many elections we have subverted over the years and the devastating impact it has had in those countries. To be ignorant of just how diabolical our own government is and has been keeps us naive and that is the danger it sounds like you want to eclipse judging from your post.

That's exactly what I did at post R305 but was accused "whataboutism" and being a Russian.

I asked : "Please explain to us why you think the Russians shouldn't retaliate."

Still no answer.

by Anonymousreply 385October 19, 2019 6:46 PM

Back to Tulsi and the BernieBros complaining about "endless war" -

Richard Engel of NBC: "US officials tell me ALARM BELL RINGING among diplomats in DC that U.S. could one day be held responsible for Crimes Against Humanity for ethnic cleansing of Syrian Kurds by opening the door to it, watching it, encouraging it (Trump's tweets and statements) and not stopping it."

The idea that the US military presence abroad is all "endless war" is nonsense. We were preventing this from happening until Trump came along.

When Tulsi says, "End US military action abroad," she means " ...so the Russians can come in and take over." - which is exactly what they've done in Syria.

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by Anonymousreply 386October 19, 2019 6:46 PM

r385 because what you did was the definition of Whataboutism. I'm not going to get bogged down in your attempts to shift the argument to another topic, because you can't make any valid points by arguing the actual facts. Nice try distorting Guardian posts to fit your strawman as well. Just give it up.

by Anonymousreply 387October 19, 2019 6:49 PM

They don’t want American troops abroad because they want to rebuild their terrorists camps and Tulis is here for it.

Anything to hurt democrats and Americans. That is the name of Tulisi’s game.

by Anonymousreply 388October 19, 2019 6:51 PM

So nobody can name a single thing that Hillary did wrong?

I rest my case.

by Anonymousreply 389October 19, 2019 6:54 PM

They can try to interfere all they want but when Americans like Tulsi and Plump help them, they are traitors.

She is free to leave the country if she hates the US so much.

by Anonymousreply 390October 19, 2019 6:56 PM

Okay 385 but this shit being used against us doesn't have to be coming from outside anywhere.

The call might be coming from inside the house.

This fight of the US people is PEOPLE VS BILLIONAIRES

They don't want us having courts where we can fight for our rights. The Supreme Court is compromised. They don't want us to have a press that tells us anything except what works for their agenda, be that inciting infighting, inciting fear. Keep us question what is real what is the truth.

All this can be done right from our own people, they don't need Russia, our own billionaires want us in chaos, and feeling paralyzed. Our own ultra mega wealthy doesn't give one flying fuck about us. Do YOU think the wealthy care about us?

The call is coming from inside the house and the reason it's best you think it's the Russians calling is because then you'll want to kill the Russians and not the wealthy.

by Anonymousreply 391October 19, 2019 7:00 PM

Well I guess this thread died because nobody can name a bad thing that Hillary did.

RIP!

by Anonymousreply 392October 19, 2019 7:16 PM

They never can, r392.

by Anonymousreply 393October 19, 2019 7:18 PM

R385 - what proof do you have that we meddled in RUSSIAN elections that would provide cause for them to retaliate? They don't really have democratic elections - it's primarily a dictatorship. Plus, the Russian government has control over the media and internet.

To say that the US has interfered in other countries elections and it makes it OK for Russia to do so is a false and weak argument. You're acting like Russia is protecting other governments by meddling in our elections. No. They. Are. NOT.

by Anonymousreply 394October 19, 2019 7:20 PM

[quote]because what you did was the definition of Whataboutism. I'm not going to get bogged down in your attempts to shift the argument to another topic, because you can't make any valid points by arguing the actual facts. Nice try distorting Guardian posts to fit your strawman as well. Just give it up.

No argument was shifted. My post was right on target.

I specifically responded to the comment: "What elections has America interfered in?"

There is no "whataboutism". I answered the posters question.

And answered it with a post from the TheGuardian, not a right-wing loon site.

The US utilizes software that creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda. It tries to influence politics and elections all around the world.

If you don't like that answer....that's your problem.

by Anonymousreply 395October 19, 2019 7:28 PM

R395 yes, we all saw your attempt to slide under the radar with your propaganda by posting an article from the Guardian. You've done such a great service for us all, now go away.

by Anonymousreply 396October 19, 2019 7:32 PM

R391 you know Russia is run by corrupt oligarchs, right?

by Anonymousreply 397October 19, 2019 7:34 PM

[quote]what proof do you have that we meddled in RUSSIAN elections that would provide cause for them to retaliate? They don't really have democratic elections - it's primarily a dictatorship. Plus, the Russian government has control over the media and internet.

The social media manipulation that the US engages in, is designed to influence politics. It is naive to think Russia will not do the same.

[quote]To say that the US has interfered in other countries elections and it makes it OK for Russia to do so is a false and weak argument.

Never said its OK for Russia to do the same. My question was: "Please explain to us why you think the Russians shouldn't retaliate."

If we do it, then don't clutch your pearls when you find that others do it to us too.

by Anonymousreply 398October 19, 2019 7:35 PM

[quote]yes, we all saw your attempt to slide under the radar with your propaganda by posting an article from the Guardian.

*sigh*

by Anonymousreply 399October 19, 2019 7:37 PM

R398 your "both siderism" is exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 400October 19, 2019 7:45 PM

[quote]your "both siderism" is exhausting.

Your provincialism is typical.

by Anonymousreply 401October 19, 2019 7:52 PM

Still can not name a single sin from Hillary.

Goes to show how gullible American people can be. That’s why Hillary has to spell it out for people.

I personally hopes she continues to fight the resistance as a private citizen. She needs to sue these people to oblivion for the years of false allegations and harassment.

by Anonymousreply 402October 19, 2019 7:54 PM

The foreigners are trying to put the last light of hope that is America out for good.

by Anonymousreply 403October 19, 2019 7:57 PM

Since no one can't name one bad thing that Hillary has done, but for fun, let's start naming all the bad and illegal things that Trump has done.

by Anonymousreply 404October 19, 2019 8:13 PM

Again R398 - provide proof we meddled in the Russian presidential or other elections and that this is retaliation. You can't. The Russians are trying to seed instability throughout the world to weaken opposition to their moves.

It's not retaliation - you're strutting around on this board thinking you have some winning argument and you look like a damned fool!

by Anonymousreply 405October 19, 2019 8:13 PM

R403: MARY!

by Anonymousreply 406October 19, 2019 8:17 PM

From the NYTimes:

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by Anonymousreply 407October 19, 2019 8:27 PM

Can polls be in the negative? Where do you go from zero percent?

by Anonymousreply 408October 19, 2019 8:29 PM

So tired of all the Hillary HATE on this site. What about all the other things she's done?

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by Anonymousreply 409October 19, 2019 8:30 PM

LOL @ r409 who thinks that graphic proves anything. Are you sure you aren't late for a Q-Anon meeting? Remember, the bees are coming to kill you!

by Anonymousreply 410October 19, 2019 8:35 PM

Do not click on any of the trolls sites. Who knows what crap your phone will pick up.

That’s why Hillary canceled her appearance because she doesn’t want to get her phone hacked from the spy in the dressing room next door.

Who needs it.

by Anonymousreply 411October 19, 2019 8:39 PM

That Hillary Clinton generates so much hatred among her detractors shows more about her detractors than it does about her. She's an intelligent, eloquent, and powerful woman, everything her hapless and hopeless detractors, male and female, aren't.

by Anonymousreply 412October 19, 2019 8:53 PM

R412, perfectly said..

Thread Closed!!!

by Anonymousreply 413October 19, 2019 8:55 PM

[quote]She's an intelligent, eloquent, and powerful woman

So was Ursula.

by Anonymousreply 414October 19, 2019 8:58 PM

Obviously, R413, it wasn't well said enough as the gist of my post went over the moron's flatiron head at R414.

by Anonymousreply 415October 19, 2019 9:02 PM

And Maleficent.

by Anonymousreply 416October 19, 2019 9:11 PM

Hilary defended on Fox... (don't worry, it's not a Fox link).

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by Anonymousreply 417October 19, 2019 9:34 PM

I'm willing to believe that most of these trolls who magically appear the moment anybody drags Gabbard online are working out of troll farms. However, I've seen firsthand how this toxic disinformation affects real people. I have a "red diaper baby" friend who was an aggressive Bernie Bro in 2016, and is now a MASSIVE supporter of Gabbard. Otherwise sane human being, regurgitating Russian talking points word for word.

He's lost numerous friends over this behavior since 2016. I've pointed out to him that the videos he's sharing are quite literally produced by a media spinoff of Russia Today, and he responds saying he doesn't care who produces the videos, he believes in the message. It's really sad to watch.

They use trolls and disinformation because they work to shape public opinion, sad to say.

by Anonymousreply 418October 19, 2019 9:40 PM

Gabbard just revealed herself with that 'rot' comment. She's repugnantly republican.

by Anonymousreply 419October 19, 2019 9:42 PM

I think Hillary wants to groom Tulsi

by Anonymousreply 420October 19, 2019 10:09 PM

R419: On that and only that, though, she's right. The party is in bad shape, state level trifectas for the Republicans outnumber Democratic ones 2 to 1, and the Republicans have the majority of Governor-ships at 27, the White House and the Senate. Our state-level weakness goes back to 1994. The Clintons have not given one good god damn of a fuck about this situation, and neither did Obama for that matter. Our party puts TOO MUCH stock on the Presidency. The thing is, this bitch does too and won't fix any of that either. The diagnosis is correct, but I don't see anyone offering a treatment right now. Maybe Warren can come up with something.

by Anonymousreply 421October 19, 2019 10:14 PM

"Our party puts TOO MUCH stock on the Presidency."

Given the fact that the Presidency has become a dictatorship, and given that the President can now pretty much do what he wants without any repercussions or regard for the law, and given that fact that every Republican senator, congressman and governor defers to Trump, I'd say that's a pretty powerful incentive to want that office.

by Anonymousreply 422October 19, 2019 10:20 PM

The Hill:

Jill Stein: 'I am not a Russian spy'

Later in the interview, Stein went on the offensive herself, saying that Clinton's comments show "Hillary's need to try to explain, perhaps to herself, why her campaign was not successful."

"People really wanted change and unfortunately believed Donald Trump's lies that he was going to bring change," Stein added.

Stein received nearly 1.5 million votes in the 2016 election, but according to a slew of congressional reports, Russia's election meddling contributed to that total, CNN noted.

Per CNN, a Senate Intelligence Committee report showed that social media support of Stein was part of Russia's interference strategy.

Stein traveled to Russia in 2015 and attended a dinner hosted by RT, a Russian television network, and was photographed at the same table as Russian President Vladimir Putin.

When asked about the dinner by CNN, Stein firmly denied that she had spoken with Putin, countering with the assertion that there are "many more pictures of Hillary Clinton having intimate conversations with Putin whispering in her ear."

Saturday afternoon, President Trump defended Stein while throwing a jab at Clinton.

"Crooked Hillary Clinton just called the respected environmentalist and Green Party candidate, Jill Stein, a 'Russian Asset,'" Trump tweeted.

"They need a Green Party more than ever after looking at the Democrats disastrous environmental program!"

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by Anonymousreply 423October 19, 2019 10:40 PM

From the link @R423:

"When asked about the dinner by CNN, Stein firmly denied that she had spoken with Putin, countering with the assertion that there are "many more pictures of Hillary Clinton having intimate conversations with Putin whispering in her ear."

Pretty lame fucking reply which only proves how stupid Stein and her supporters are. Of course, there are going to be pictures of Hillary and Putin together. She was the Secretary of State. I believe that requires the office holder to be photographed with heads of state.

by Anonymousreply 424October 19, 2019 10:49 PM

Fuck you Jill Stein YOU CUNT!!!!

by Anonymousreply 425October 19, 2019 10:50 PM

R365 All hillary did that caused her to be hated by every man and woman hating women in America was say she did not want to stay home and bake cookies, that's it. That little comment started the hillary hate train. So in short misogyny.

by Anonymousreply 426October 19, 2019 10:54 PM

R365 All hillary did that caused her to be hated by every man and woman hating women in America was say she did not want to stay home and bake cookies, that's it. That little comment started the hillary hate train. So in short misogyny.

by Anonymousreply 427October 19, 2019 10:54 PM

r365 needs to actually READ the Mueller report before he can actually make such a pronouncement.

Unless of course he's just a Deplorable troll.

by Anonymousreply 428October 19, 2019 11:03 PM

Isn't it strange that there are no voluminous Tulsi support threads on DL. There are no multiple, lengthy threads about her polling and latest debate performance and how she's doing in the early primary states, etc. But, boom, trolls galore all over this thread minutes after it's posted for a couple of days straight. Then, they'll disappear again as soon as this thread maxes out and Russki Tulsi will again fade into the background.

Also, remember, Bill Clinton is still getting top secret security briefings. Hillary knows a lot more than anyone here about what's going on concerning the next election cycle and the complete lack of security and what Russia is doing and planning to do.

by Anonymousreply 429October 19, 2019 11:30 PM

Looks like war-monger is the new Russian insult tactic. Tulsi threw it out quickly. It's been parroted here many times. Likely recently whispered by Putin to Trump to order the Syria withdrawal. The more countries the US leaves, the more that Putin can enter.

by Anonymousreply 430October 19, 2019 11:36 PM

I can see Russia from my house!

by Anonymousreply 431October 19, 2019 11:37 PM

I've been on the internet since 1992 and the last two years have been by far the worst because most smart people have left the internet and social media in frustration. All that's left now are trolls and gullible people who believe the trolls, and the social media owners and cable news journalists who take advantage of that. This whole situation has been a perfect example. I swear no one on Twitter even remembers that Clinton doesn't hold public office, not even the alleged Democrats. Stupidity everywhere!

Sorry to say that if your friend is spouting Russian talking points they aren't sane, they are at minimum terminally gullible.

by Anonymousreply 432October 19, 2019 11:39 PM

[quote]Looks like war-monger is the new Russian insult tactic.

Def a callback like others have mentioned, not a new tactic at all. Maureen Dowd even wrote a whole piece on how Hillary was a warmonger back in 2016, that "Hillary the Hawk" thing.

Stein demanding a debate with Hillary and Tulsi saying she and Hillary were the only candidates now were weird gaslighting attempts to make it seem like Clinton is in office or is running. Shocking how many people are falling for it.

by Anonymousreply 433October 19, 2019 11:41 PM

Who are these people defending a known homophobe on a gay site?

by Anonymousreply 434October 19, 2019 11:43 PM

R434, those would be the trolls.

by Anonymousreply 435October 19, 2019 11:45 PM

[quote] what proof do you have that we meddled in RUSSIAN elections that would provide cause for them to retaliate?

[quote] Again R398 - provide proof we meddled in the Russian presidential or other elections and that this is retaliation. You can't.

R394, R405, have you been living under a rock? There’s A LOT of proof. This is important history to know - because it partially explains the clusterfuck going on now. Even the people involved (Bill Clinton’s administration and the Harvard Institute for International Development, a.k.a. HIID, a think-tank funded by the federal gov’t) are not denying that they SWUNG the Russian election in 1996. Newsflash: Bill Clinton got his pal, Boris Yeltsin, RE-ELECTED for a 2nd term. Without Clinton’s election meddling - Yeltsin would have LOST that election.

Here’s a very detailed article in The Altlantic explaining everything and why the Ruskies can’t stand the Clintons - because of the Clintons’ election PUPPET, Boris Yeltsin. The Clinton administration broke all elections rules in order to saddle them with Yeltsin for a second time (despite the fact that he was clearly an inept, catastrophic president) - and the Russkies never forgave the Clintons for such under-handed manipulation.

[quote] The Atlantic, 2018: “20 years before Russia tried to swing an American presidential election, America tried to swing a presidential election in Russia. The year was 1996. Boris Yeltsin was seeking a 2nd term, and Bill Clinton desperately wanted to help. “I WANT this guy to win SO BAD” he told Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, “it hurts.” Clinton liked Yeltsin personally. He considered him Russia’s best hope for embracing democracy and capitalism. And he appreciated Yeltsin’s acquiescence during NATO’s march eastward, into the former Soviet bloc.

[quote] Unfortunately for Clinton, ordinary Russians appreciated their leader FAR LESS. Yeltsin’s “shock-therapy” economic reforms [during his first term] had reduced the government’s safety net, and produced a spike in unemployment and inflation. Between 1990 and 1994, the average life expectancy among Russian men had dropped by an astonishing 6 years. When Yeltsin began his re-election campaign in January 1996, his approval rating stood at [ONLY] 6%

[quote] So the Clinton administration SPRANG into action. It lobbied the International Monetary Fund [IMF] to give Russia a $10 billion loan, some of which Yeltsin distributed to woo voters. Upon arriving in a given city, he often announced, “My pockets are full.” [bold]Three American political consultants - including Richard Dresner, a veteran of Clinton’s campaigns in Arkansas - went to work on Yeltsin’s re-election bid. Every week, Dresner sent the White House the Yeltsin campaign’s INTERNAL polling. And before traveling to meet Yeltsin in April, Clinton asked Dresner what he should say in Moscow to boost his BUDDY’s campaign.[/bold]

[quote] It worked. In a stunning turnaround, Yeltsin - who had begun the campaign in LAST PLACE - defeated his … rival in the election’s final round by 13% points. Talbott declared that “a number of international observers have judged this to be a free and fair election.” But Michael Meadowcroft, a Brit who led the election-observer team of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, later claimed there had been widespread voter fraud, which he had been PRESSURED NOT to expose […] Thomas Graham, who served as the Chief political analyst at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow during the campaign, later conceded that Clinton officials knew the election wasn’t truly fair. “This was a classic case,” he ADMITTED, “of the ends [for the US] justifying the means.”

A lot of this information came to light when it turned out that the Clinton-endorsed Harvard Institute for International Development (HIID) was not just meddling in foreign elections - but also STEALING money from US taxpayers (by pocketing some of the "budget").

by Anonymousreply 436October 19, 2019 11:45 PM

Also including YMF, who is a rabid Hillary-hater.

by Anonymousreply 437October 19, 2019 11:55 PM

Beto comes out in support for Tulsi, Kamala gives a non-response.

by Anonymousreply 438October 20, 2019 12:31 AM

Relax r402/404 Hillary Clinton is never going to fuck you no matter how passionately you defend her honor

by Anonymousreply 439October 20, 2019 1:05 AM

r439 that doesn't even make sense. It's like you're regurgitating crap insults from other threads.

by Anonymousreply 440October 20, 2019 1:19 AM

[quote]Beto comes out in support for Tulsi, Kamala gives a non-response.

Seems about right. The only idiots falling for her bullshit campaign are middle-aged straight males who wouldn't mind fucking her.

by Anonymousreply 441October 20, 2019 1:20 AM

r441 Also those who have nothing to lose anymore.

by Anonymousreply 442October 20, 2019 1:24 AM

Will Mayor Pete come out and defend a fellow veteran against these baseless accusations? Of course not. He is a bootlicking DNC stooge.

by Anonymousreply 443October 20, 2019 2:49 AM

r443 "baseless". Have you read ANY of this thread? Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian stooge, all right.

by Anonymousreply 444October 20, 2019 2:50 AM

r443 I'm sure he'll be asked about it when he appears on the four news shows tomorrow. However, being a veteran isn't a get out of jail free card. Just look at that Jacob Wohl's marine who faked the Warren affair story in exchange for cash.

by Anonymousreply 445October 20, 2019 2:53 AM

Look at r436 being all cute by pasting huge chunks of bullshit to try to get someone to believe that if only there was no Clinton interference, there would have been honest and fair Russian elections

by Anonymousreply 446October 20, 2019 2:53 AM

"Tulsi's not the only war hero! I dodged bullets in Bosnia!!!:

by Anonymousreply 447October 20, 2019 3:00 AM

Even though Trump, Stein and now Gabbard are sticking to the approved "I'm not a puppet, you're the puppet" defense, none of them has yet to make any statement critical of Putin.

by Anonymousreply 448October 20, 2019 3:43 AM

Why the fuck are GAYS in a GAY FORUM deffending known homophobe tulsi? What fucking world is this? She would gladly have us sent to death camps. Self hating fags have killed our comunity.

by Anonymousreply 449October 20, 2019 4:46 AM

Tulsi, hon, one word: Subcision.

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by Anonymousreply 450October 20, 2019 5:04 AM

[quote] Why the fuck are GAYS in a GAY FORUM deffending known homophobe

I've wondered the same thing.

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by Anonymousreply 451October 20, 2019 5:22 AM

[quote] Though this pretty much cock blocks any chance of Gabbard running as a third party candidate. So maybe Clinton had a goal...

Well I guess it word.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) said Thursday she has “ruled out” the possibility of launching an independent 2020 presidential bid if she fails to secure the Democratic nomination.

“I've ruled that out,” Gabbard said on CNN when asked about a possible third-party campaign. “I’m going to continue to focus on moving our campaign forward, continuing this grass-roots campaign, continuing to deliver our message to the American people.”

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by Anonymousreply 452October 20, 2019 7:36 AM

"Will Mayor Pete come out and defend a fellow veteran against these baseless accusations? Of course not. He is a bootlicking DNC stooge."

Mighty strange comment coming from some asshole who is being paid to post bullshit on anonymous message forums.

If you want a picture of a bootlicking stooge, R443, take a look in the mirror. You'll see the biggest fucking drunken, stupid, skanky bootlicking stooge in the world.

by Anonymousreply 453October 20, 2019 11:23 AM

Just in case anyone is taken in by the "Tulsi is no different from Hillary or Obama on gay rights! She's evolved!" argument (cf. R451), let's run through this again.

Tulsi worked for her father's anti-gay organizations well into the 2000s. She went around giving speeches against “homosexual extremists." She opposed anti-bullying legislation on the grounds that it would tell kids that being gay is “normal and natural.” She disavowed these views when she ran for Congress in 2012, and has voted for gay-rights laws since then, but in 2016 she was still telling the press that her personal views hadn't changed on the subject.

This isn't an evolution; it's a 180 turn in public image. Hillary, Obama, et al. didn't work for anti-gay organizations or vilify gay people even back when they failed to support gay marriage. Tulsi in this as in everything is pseudo-liberal bait for a right-wing agenda, and like the poster above I'm surprised anyone on DL doesn't see through her façade.

by Anonymousreply 454October 20, 2019 12:17 PM

[quote] Why the fuck are GAYS in a GAY FORUM deffending known homophobe tulsi?

Oh right, because Hillary Clinton has such a staunch record of being pro-gay.

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by Anonymousreply 455October 20, 2019 12:41 PM

Tulsi said that she ruled out a third party run BEFORE Hillary Clinton ran her stupid mouth. So, that makes Hillary look doubly stupid. If you don't believe me, look at the media. They are all making fun of Hillary.

by Anonymousreply 456October 20, 2019 12:44 PM

I see that my post at R454 didn't deter the false-equivalency freak at R455 to post that bullshit again. *Sigh* Hey troll, do you think Hillary's "personal views have changed on the subject," or do you think she's like Tulsi, still a homophobe under the façade?

by Anonymousreply 457October 20, 2019 12:47 PM

Whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout

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by Anonymousreply 458October 20, 2019 1:03 PM

On CNN this morning both Mayor Pete and Jake Tapper politely eye rolled about Clinton's claim.

by Anonymousreply 459October 20, 2019 1:23 PM

Just in case anyone is taken in by the "Tulsi is no different from Hillary or Obama on gay rights! She's evolved!" argument (cf. [R455]), let's run through this again.

Tulsi worked for her father's anti-gay organizations well into the 2000s. She went around giving speeches against “homosexual extremists." She opposed anti-bullying legislation on the grounds that it would tell kids that being gay is “normal and natural.” She disavowed these views when she ran for Congress in 2012, and has voted for gay-rights laws since then, but in 2016 she was still telling the press that her personal views hadn't changed on the subject.

This isn't an evolution; it's a 180 turn in public image. Hillary, Obama, et al. didn't work for anti-gay organizations or vilify gay people even back when they failed to support gay marriage. Tulsi in this as in everything is pseudo-liberal bait for a right-wing agenda, and like the poster above I'm surprised anyone on DL doesn't see through her façade.

by Anonymousreply 460October 20, 2019 1:58 PM

Damn, Russian bots don't even get Sundays off?

by Anonymousreply 461October 20, 2019 2:23 PM

Didn't Tulsi just recently say her views on gays hadn't changed since 2015? For supposedly being a Democrat the hard-right fascists sure have a giant hardon for Gabbard.

by Anonymousreply 462October 20, 2019 3:18 PM

I don't like Tulsi, but I think Hillary was stupid for bringing this up. Her poll numbers were terrible, no one was paying attention to her, she didn't do well in the debate, Americans were focused on other candidates. Now, thanks to Hillary, Tulsi is getting attention in the media. Thinking Hillary should not have brought this up does not mean people like Tulsi. I think Hillary did this for herself since Tulsi went against her in 2016 and backed Bernie, it doesn't help anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 463October 20, 2019 3:20 PM

Yes, r463 people should stay silent when they see signs of trouble. Snitches get stitches!

by Anonymousreply 464October 20, 2019 3:25 PM

Hillary is more of a republican than Tulsi is. She is as much of a war hawk as Dick Cheney himself. And told us in 2016 that she is opposed to single payer health care and that she will never ever support it.

Cunt.

by Anonymousreply 465October 20, 2019 3:58 PM

R460, the Clintons boasted about their passing the defense of marriage act on Christian radio and tv. What they they did was worse than Tulsi working for her dad as a teenager. They went a step further and passed legislation to vilify gays and please people like Tulsis dad.

by Anonymousreply 466October 20, 2019 4:02 PM

Oh God, this thread is going to part 2, isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 467October 20, 2019 4:13 PM

She was a strong supporter of Bernie's last campaign. Considered a surrogate. Did her background with Assad and her Russian support not bother him or what?

by Anonymousreply 468October 20, 2019 4:23 PM

Being friendly with Russia does not automatically equal being unfriendly with the US. There are many more dangerous elements in US government that are actually working agains thte interests of the US (working only for their own interests)

by Anonymousreply 469October 20, 2019 4:28 PM

Sure, Boris

by Anonymousreply 470October 20, 2019 4:30 PM

Tell your comrade that your list of talking points needs to be updated r465

Plenty of people in this world benefit from war, but Hillary is not one of them

by Anonymousreply 471October 20, 2019 4:33 PM

Hillary is a smart woman. She's very careful with her words. I figure she knows "something".

by Anonymousreply 472October 20, 2019 4:37 PM

And all those dangerous elements are working with the Russians.

by Anonymousreply 473October 20, 2019 4:39 PM

R468, if nancy can get away with it...

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by Anonymousreply 474October 20, 2019 4:44 PM

I hope this thread does go to part 2. It's like a roach motel for the Russian apologists and self-loathers who think that the Defense of Marriage act in the 90s is worse than calling marriage equality advocates "homosexual extremists" and saying you still hold that view, at least privately, in 2016. And look what popped up at R474: a context-free false equivalence! Let's keep all that trash here and out of the grown-up political threads.

by Anonymousreply 475October 20, 2019 4:47 PM

It's all Sleepy-eyes Chuck wanted to talk about today on "Meat The Ass", because he hates Hillary.

Gabbard creeps me out, and there's no way in hell this nobody would still be in the debates without shady money.

by Anonymousreply 476October 20, 2019 4:56 PM

R474, get back to me when Pelosi gets endorsed by David Duke, and right-wing fascists talk about her in positive terms.

by Anonymousreply 477October 20, 2019 4:58 PM

And when Tulsi was asked point-blank whether she disavowed Russian support to her campaign, she refused to. Nuff said.

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by Anonymousreply 478October 20, 2019 4:58 PM

She was asked, TWICE.

by Anonymousreply 479October 20, 2019 5:01 PM

R4478, Its a an absurd question. I dont blame her for not wanting to give those propagandists-for-the-1% the satisfaction of playing into their hands or talking points.

by Anonymousreply 480October 20, 2019 5:13 PM

An absurd question? Not when it's been documented that Russian propaganda sites have been boosting her candidacy. Especially in view of what we know about Russian interference in the 2016 election and since. (Or maybe R480 is Bill Barr.)

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by Anonymousreply 481October 20, 2019 5:19 PM

R481, NBC news is propaganda. Their mission is to protect the war machine at all costs. They did their part in selling the Iraqi war that thousands of well meaning Americans died in.

by Anonymousreply 482October 20, 2019 5:21 PM

NBC is owned by powerful Jews that want the USA to fight Iran for Israel. The jewish community have wanted the us to fight Iran for a long time.

by Anonymousreply 483October 20, 2019 5:24 PM

R482 and racist at R483 (if you're not the same person), I notice you don't have more than ad hominem arguments, and that you don't even bother trying to dispute the evidence.

by Anonymousreply 484October 20, 2019 5:48 PM

"On CNN this morning both Mayor Pete and Jake Tapper politely eye rolled about Clinton's claim"

Link, please, R459, or you're just pulling shit out of your prolapsed, smelly Russian asshole.

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by Anonymousreply 485October 20, 2019 6:07 PM

Her father founded the nonprofit "Stop Promoting Homosexuality in America". He was behind the Hawaii anti-gay marriage bill. He SWITCHED parties from Republican to Democrat only because there were more Dems in Hawaii and he though the could be more effective. As of 2011, he said he still holds his beliefs about marriage.

This is the household she comes from. Tulsi hasn't accomplished shit - no real degrees to speak of, all of her government work has been due to nepotism, and I question some of her military credentials and whether she was fast-tracked because of her connections. She most certainly was not put into harm's way during the war - despite what she may claim.

Her views have not evolved.

by Anonymousreply 486October 20, 2019 6:27 PM
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by Anonymousreply 487October 20, 2019 6:32 PM

[quote] "On CNN this morning both Mayor Pete and Jake Tapper politely eye rolled about Clinton's claim"

[quote] Link, please, [R459], or you're just pulling shit out of your prolapsed, smelly Russian asshole.

Here is the video. He sidestepped the question. Shocker! He probably hates Tulsi because she is a woman

by Anonymousreply 488October 20, 2019 6:43 PM

Sorry, here is Mayo Pete on White Bread.

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by Anonymousreply 489October 20, 2019 6:44 PM

Guuuuuurl

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by Anonymousreply 490October 20, 2019 6:53 PM

[quote]He probably hates Tulsi because she is a woman

Care to back up your accusation of his misgyny, homophobe at R488? You trolls aren't trying very hard anymore.

by Anonymousreply 491October 20, 2019 6:53 PM

Oh my god, the trolls on this thread are insane in number and content. "What's wrong with being friends with Russia?!" Really? Have you all come to this?

by Anonymousreply 492October 20, 2019 6:55 PM

[quote] Our state-level weakness goes back to 1994.

And yet we had 57 senators in 2008. And got 51% of the vote as opposed to 44.5% for the Pubes.

by Anonymousreply 493October 20, 2019 6:56 PM

[quote]He has been on the scene for over 30 years so to suggest that Russia put him up to this now

Russia has groomed Bernie Sanders since the 80s. The Kremlin thinks long term, as by now you should know.

by Anonymousreply 494October 20, 2019 6:57 PM

Wow - Tulsi's link to Chris Cooper is really eye-opening. So, Hillary was right again?

by Anonymousreply 495October 20, 2019 7:10 PM

A bunch of reasons why Gabbard is neither a Democrat nor a Progressive.

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by Anonymousreply 496October 20, 2019 7:15 PM

Look at R446, being all cute by showcasing a total lack of reading comprehension. The question asked upthread was whether Bill Clinton interfered in the 1996 election. The answer is he did and doesn’t even deny it. This triggered the current clusterfuck. But I love how you try to avoid hearing this answer. The quality of the ejections was not the issue - foreign interference was (directly funding a crazy incumbent president over his opposition). Making a bad situation in a foreign country even worse seems to be business as usual for POTUS and the State Department.

The irony is: if you’re going to manipulate foreign elections, at least do it properly. But Clinton screwed up like an amateur - he placed all his bets on his fave buddy, Boris Yeltsin, actively helping him get a 2nd term. But Yeltsin chose Putin as his party’s successor. Which is why we are where we are now. Bill Clinton’s foreign election interference and his idiotic, near-sighted financial & political support for a drunk loose-cannon like Yeltsin blew up in Clinton’s face. Ironically, Hillary Clinton paid for her husband’s stupid foreign gambling that resulted in a complete clusterfuck down the road.

by Anonymousreply 497October 20, 2019 7:17 PM

Great link R496 - Tulsi is not a Democrat and neither was her father. Is she still part of hare krishna movement? For real?

by Anonymousreply 498October 20, 2019 7:17 PM

Tulsi LIVES on Fox News and Fox Business.

Nuff. Said.

by Anonymousreply 499October 20, 2019 7:30 PM

R497 - so you honestly think that an election from 20 years ago spurned Russia to start interfering in US and other countries' elections and it makes it right?

by Anonymousreply 500October 20, 2019 7:31 PM

It boggles my mind that some idiots think we should be OK with Russian interference in our elections because we interfere in other nations'. By that logic, if Russia dropped a nuclear bomb on Topeka we should just shrug because we bombed Hiroshima.

by Anonymousreply 501October 20, 2019 7:31 PM

R483 - perfect example of the far-right racist shitheels who just happen to find Tulsi refreshing. But she can't control what other people say or do, so it's all good.

by Anonymousreply 502October 20, 2019 7:54 PM

They're not just idiots, R501, they're trolls who are trying to distract us from the facts that Tulsi has no Democratic or liberal cred except for a vague economic populism she opportunistically adopted. Her "no endless wars" brand is unnuanced and basically aligns with Trump's tweets on the subject. Her best press comes from places like Russia Today and the Daily Caller. She's incapable of criticizing Putin and other dictators, and pivots when asked to disavow taking Russian money. Criticizes other Democrats more than she does Trump—and does so regularly on the opinion pieces of Fox News, where she frequently appears. David Duke and Steve Bannon like her. Used terms like "homosexual extremists" when working for her formerly Republican father's anti-rights group in the 00s, and in 2016 still considered that her personal conviction. In 2017 she hired as a consultant Chris Cooper, who advocated against the Magnitsky Act (i.e. advocated for Putin against US interests).

In short, she's a tool. Obviously chosen for her good hair and lei-wearing aura of liberality—which just covers a basically right-wing ideology.

by Anonymousreply 503October 20, 2019 8:12 PM

[quote]Tulsi has no Democratic or liberal cred

She was a vice chair of the DNC and resigned to endorse Bernie Sanders, for goodness' sake. You trolls need to try harder.

by Anonymousreply 504October 20, 2019 8:37 PM

Gabbard with a big old F at 146 on the list as far as progressive voting in comparison to the lean of her district. And, it looks like she's getting worse when you look at her yearly versus overall. Bitch is a Repug/Russian fool/tool.

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by Anonymousreply 505October 20, 2019 8:50 PM

[quote]She was a vice chair of the DNC and resigned to endorse Bernie Sanders, for goodness' sake. You trolls need to try harder.

lol—I'M the troll?

by Anonymousreply 506October 20, 2019 9:06 PM

Well, the weekends of the Russian bots were certainly ruined by this coming out on a Friday. Looks like this topic hit Putin's main vein and it's been all hands on deck since then. It's likely a very expensive operation and they need to salvage it as best that they can.

by Anonymousreply 507October 20, 2019 9:10 PM

r504 she was put on there after she was embraced with open arms by the DNC, who she then repeatedly attacked and denigrated at every turn. She is a viper and definitely NO Democrat.

r506 it's the trolls' favorite ploy, they just copy things other people have said, thus attempting to further confuse the argument. Watch, one of them will post a GIF or photo next.

by Anonymousreply 508October 20, 2019 9:14 PM

They'd shrug it off if the Russians nuked a blue state *libtard* city for sure.

by Anonymousreply 509October 20, 2019 9:44 PM

Until they had to pay alot more taxes to make up for all the tax money that the urban city used to pay to help support them r509

by Anonymousreply 510October 20, 2019 9:56 PM

r483 is your typical anti-Semitic asshole.

Shun him, gals!

by Anonymousreply 511October 20, 2019 10:14 PM

The real trolls are the people who encouraged a woman like Tulsi with her skin condition into national politics. They know HDTV is a thing, right? Future Russian "grooming" needs to concentrate a lot more on skin care repair.

by Anonymousreply 512October 20, 2019 11:01 PM

Suddenly this thread has gotten quiet. Did the workday end in St. Petersburg? Sleep tight, fellas! You've earned it!

by Anonymousreply 513October 20, 2019 11:02 PM

It's always that way, R513. They post fast and furiously, then disappear. Must be an extended vodka and cigarette break, or they simply passed out from all the Stoli they've been imbibing since their shift started.

by Anonymousreply 514October 20, 2019 11:09 PM

Already done, R511. That bigot has been on my ignore list for a while now. I consider him properly shunned.

by Anonymousreply 515October 20, 2019 11:19 PM

R500, to answer the first part of your question: Yes, I do think that was the catalyst. You’re citing “20 years” as if that’s too long to harbour a political grudge. It’s not - the main political participants in that mess in 1996 were ca. in their late 40s back then, and only in their 60s in 2016. Active, serving politicians & officials have long memories - if they get screwed over in a major way, you bet they’ll remember. Besides, their grudge was not against the DNC - but against the Clintons specifically. Bill Clinton was impeached - so they didn’t need to do anything at the time. But when Clinton’s main partner re-emerged and ran in 2016 - they sure as hell were going to serve some payback. The Clintons fucked them up in 1996 - and they fucked up the Clintons in 2016.

To answer the second part of your question: no, I don’t think it’s “right”. But global politics doesn’t operate on a principle of “rules for thee, but not for me”. Politics is a vendetta-driven, tit-for-tat business - if you screw someone over, then be prepared to expect similar payback. It’s not “right”, it’s just how the world of politics works. E.g. the Ruskies screwed the US military in Vietnam - in return, Pentagon fucked them up in Afghanistan (“We wanted to give them their own Vietnam, as payback”, Pentagon officials later admitted). There was almost exactly a “20-year” period of waiting between those 2 events too. But when the opportunity finally arose - the vendetta was carried out. Revenge is a dish best served cold, as they say.

by Anonymousreply 516October 20, 2019 11:34 PM

Bill Clinton was impeached but not removed from office, Boris. So it wouldn't have made any difference on whatever you're going on about.

by Anonymousreply 517October 20, 2019 11:39 PM

R501, it “boggles your mind” because you don’t read what people write and instead project your own words on others. Who said it was “ok” to interfere? You’re arguing with yourself. You’re looking at it from a philosophical, moralistic perspective (is political revenge moral or not, is it right or wrong, should someone “accept” it or not). Whereas the actual, original point was a purely matter-of-fact one, without delving into a pointless moralistic debate - there’s simply a cause-and-effect dynamic in international politics. If you swindle someone, be prepared to be swindled back; if you punch someone, be prepared to be punched back; if you mess with foreign elections & regime change - be prepared for others to ‘return the favour’. International politics doesn’t care if it’s 'right or wrong' - it’s just the reality of what happens. It’s like a fundamental law of physics.

So to clear up your “boggled mind” - you shouldn’t just keel over and “accept” revenge. But people should grow up, wisen the heck up and “accept” the basic life fact that if you do something controversial or illegal in the international arena - the same will be done (or be attempted to be done) to you at some future point. So you better prepare for it & get your guard up - because it will be coming. Instead of running around post-factum, like a headless chicken later, looking for answers and in full denial (or even cluelessness) about the past (‘Why did this happen? How could this happen? Our side never ever did anything like this, so why did they do it to us! We were so unprepared for this! We had no idea this could happen, especially as blowback for the mess we helped create in the late 90s!”).

Ironically, the only person who knew to expect this blowback was Hillary Clinton. Because she knew her husband fucked up in a big way in 1996 in Moscow and she messed up in 2011 in Tripoli. So she knew that the list of people who wanted payback against “Bill & Hill” was a mile-long, for manipulating foreign governments and leaving behind an even bigger mess. She knew this could be coming - but she couldn’t explain the background to voters, because then she’d have to publicly advertise that her & Bill’s foreign policy actions resulted in such an immense clusterfuck that those places now wanted payback against the Clintons.

by Anonymousreply 518October 20, 2019 11:39 PM

I was asked a question upthread and I'm answering it, R517. If you don't like it, don't read. Your "Boris" neener-neener insults are infantile.

by Anonymousreply 519October 20, 2019 11:48 PM

Yes, of course, it all makes sense now, r518. Russia was our friend and ally before the Clintons were in office; there would have been no possible reason for Putin to harbor a grudge against Hillary Clinton otherwise! I'm so much more informed now, thank you for sharing!

by Anonymousreply 520October 20, 2019 11:49 PM

Spasibo, R516-517-519, for focusing this thread on where it belongs, the historical reasons for Russia's intervention in the US electoral process, and not on the irrelevant facts of Russia's support for Tulsi and her fundamentally Trumpian ideology.

by Anonymousreply 521October 20, 2019 11:53 PM

R520, it was the fresh start of a new capitalist era and it could have been an ally. Why do you think Bill Clinton was in Moscow so often and even managed to get his people into Yeltsin's election campaign - the locals trusted Clinton at first, he was promising them democracy and economic growth. But he fucked it up by bending election rules to get "the guy he wanted" into power (the most anti-democratic thing you can do) and supporting the worst candidate in the race. From then on, any mention of the Clintons made the Russkies' blood boil - Clinton screwed them over by installing his puppet and ruining any chance for a more amicable or at least neutral co-existence.

by Anonymousreply 522October 21, 2019 12:04 AM

Vodka and cigarette break must be over, as R516/R516/R519 are still beating this dead horse, even though the Clintons aren't even running for anything.

Why do you have such a hard-on for these people, and what the fuck does it have to do with fucking homophobe Tulsi Gabbard? If Gabbard can't handle some shade thrown her way, how the fuck can she be expected to handle the Presidency?

by Anonymousreply 523October 21, 2019 12:07 AM

Tulsi could have handled that a lot of ways, but her response was prototypical Republican. It revealed who she really was, in case anyone had any doubts from looking at her record. It's pretty amusing how much some people - such as Tulsi - are triggered by Clinton.

by Anonymousreply 524October 21, 2019 12:11 AM

R521, 523, don't be so triggered. I'm not the one who originally brought this up. But when posters upthread haughtily say things like: 'Show me proof of Clinton's interference in 1996. You can't. Neener-neener' - well, that's just ignorant, because it's not even a state secret anymore, officials from the State Department are openly talking about it by now. I gave a detailed explanation upthread, with state quotes.

by Anonymousreply 525October 21, 2019 12:21 AM

That was yesterday, dude. We're talking about Tulsi and the support she gets from Russia (which she has refused to disavow).

by Anonymousreply 526October 21, 2019 12:24 AM

We've been told that a lot of our trolls come from other countries like Brazil and the Czech Republic, and the trolls did seem to disappear at 5:00PM ish our time, so I have to wonder how much this must be costing someone. But it could be American trolls for hire too, there are plenty of basement dwellers who would troll for 5 cents per post all day.

by Anonymousreply 527October 21, 2019 12:26 AM

There are a few amateur trolls here too like r525 who keep bombarding us this their strange irrelevant obsessions.

by Anonymousreply 528October 21, 2019 12:33 AM

Sure, R527, because DL has a tendency to constantly trend across popular social media like Twitter and FB :). And it's very important for conservative trolls to convince specifically very old gay males (DL's main demographic) - because eldergays (tiny % of the population) are the most vital demographic that swings elections.

I guess bitchy gossip sites like Lipstick Alley are overrun by trolls from Brazil too :).

by Anonymousreply 529October 21, 2019 12:43 AM

Where's Susan Sarandon? It's her job to fuck up our elections - or at least help out the Russians.

by Anonymousreply 530October 21, 2019 12:54 AM

[quote]she’d have to publicly advertise that her & Bill’s foreign policy actions resulted in such an immense clusterfuck that those places now wanted payback against the Clintons.

Aside from the fact that much of what you wrote was simply speculation, not backed up by anything resembling reality, there is this teensy little other problem with your theories: Putin is also engaged in similar tactics elsewhere in the world, in places that have absolutely nothing to do with the Clintons or with any supposed "payback" fantasies you've concocted for yourself out of whole cloth.

Which is just one reason why so little analysis of Russia's actions of the past decade has included your fantasies.

by Anonymousreply 531October 21, 2019 12:54 AM

US-Russia relations are different from their relations with other smaller countries, R531. The US has imperial ambitions and Russia is a former empire - so of course they both meddle in smaller, weaker countries' affairs (South America, Middle East, Eastern Europe). But they never meddled in each other's elections so directly - it started with Bill Clinton manipulatively backing and funding one of the worst candidates imaginable, Boris Yeltsin. This resulted in an economic crisis in the region and the rise of bitter acrimony against the Clintons. Even before Putin, during the end of Yeltsin's term, when it became clear that Clinton helped Yeltsin secure his 2nd term and quash all opposition, the population there seemed to erupt in bitter resentment against the Clintons specifically.

by Anonymousreply 532October 21, 2019 1:24 AM

R532, you are so full of shit. Russia's economy was wrecked by other Russians, not the Clintons or Boris Yeltsin. When the Soviet Union broke up, Russian oligarchs bought former state run industries for pennies on the ruble. They profited handsomely on very little investment, and instead of reinvesting the money in Russian infrastructure and other Russian investments, decided to stash their profits outside of Russia and/or buy condos in NYC and Miami, which very coincidentally happened to be the places Donald J. Trump and Company were doing business.

And BTW, if you're an American, we would you give a shit if our former sworn enemy, an enemy that once vowed to destroy us, hit the skids. But you're not an American, so it's easy to see why you're so disturbed (in more than one sense of the word).

by Anonymousreply 533October 21, 2019 2:12 AM

Has there been a Hare Krishna candidate before?

by Anonymousreply 534October 21, 2019 2:32 AM

Hillary was vilified for her "vast rightwing conspiracy" comment in the 90s. And in hindsight she was spot-on.

by Anonymousreply 535October 21, 2019 3:15 AM

I was a target of the $100,000 in Russian Facebook ads from R321.

For over 30 years I had no opinion of Hillary. Then I saw the meme and decided to change my vote. I wish I had researched the meme but the Russian propaganda was too convincing.

Only now do I understand I may have cost her the election, since her campaign did absolutely nothing wrong.

by Anonymousreply 536October 21, 2019 3:55 AM

I want to splash her white pantsuit with red food dye. Begone, pizzafish!

by Anonymousreply 537October 21, 2019 6:28 AM

lol ok R505. Tulsi at #146 on your list? Ed Case of HI-01 (downtown Honolulu) is #179. Is he a Republican, too?!?!!! That list means nothing.

Tulsi is a progressive-liberal through and through. She’s just too authentic for this world. 🥰🤙🏻

by Anonymousreply 538October 21, 2019 12:01 PM

[quote]She’s just too authentic for this world.

I'm more than ready for her to sample the next.

by Anonymousreply 539October 21, 2019 12:04 PM

Tulsi is a cunt.

Her response to Clinton makes that much crystal clear.

by Anonymousreply 540October 21, 2019 12:42 PM

Fox & Friends lauding Tulsi this morning:

"She's been an absolute standout during this whole election campaign"

"This helps her because she's not part of the establishment"

"We don't really know what happens behind the scenes, and it looks like she's pulling back the curtain"

by Anonymousreply 541October 21, 2019 1:29 PM

R536 what a willfully simplistic viewpoint. You should kill yourself.

by Anonymousreply 542October 21, 2019 1:38 PM

r541, and that alone should tell you that Tulsi is not a real Democrat.

by Anonymousreply 543October 21, 2019 1:53 PM

"This helps her because she's not part of the establishment"

And yet Fox's wet dream come true, Donald J. Trump, a wealthy white male, New York born and bred whose current home address is 5th Avenue in New York, a Wharton grad, isn't part of the establishment, no sirree, no way.

by Anonymousreply 544October 21, 2019 2:01 PM

[quote]US-Russia relations are different from their relations with other smaller countries

I was referring to Western Europe, something that your "analysis" completely ignores. Your idiotic claims about the cause of the "economic crisis" and the supposed resulting "bitter acrimony" are nothing but fantasies that you cannot support.

by Anonymousreply 545October 21, 2019 2:58 PM

This is so stupid. Anyone who doesn't want to see Trump get another term should know you don't vote 3rd party no matter who the candidate is and no matter who is behind their campaign. You vote for the Democrat, NO MATTER who that is. You vote for the DEMOCRAT!

by Anonymousreply 546October 21, 2019 6:03 PM

Tulsi Gabbard Is Being Used by the Russians, and to a Former US Double Agent, the Evidence Is Clear

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by Anonymousreply 547October 21, 2019 9:52 PM

Lol Hillary got her. Living for this.

by Anonymousreply 548October 21, 2019 9:53 PM

I like the precise language in R547's link: "Gabbard's campaign and messaging are at risk of being weaponized to interfere with and manipulate our election ... my chief concern: that Moscow will use its skillful propaganda machine to prop up Gabbard and use her as a tool to delegitimize the democratic process ... Russian support of Gabbard does not mean that she is a Russian-directed operative ... the solution is to recognize these threats and stop Russia from unnaturally amplifying any one message."

by Anonymousreply 549October 21, 2019 10:33 PM

[quote]I was a target of the $100,000 in Russian Facebook ads

It's very important to keep in mind that $100k in Facebook ads is not only election interference, it's an assault on our democracy, but an ex-POTUS explicitly stating to Canadians how they should vote in their national election, not election interference. If anyone needs assistance in understanding this, a Venn diagram can be provided.

by Anonymousreply 550October 22, 2019 12:29 AM

[quote]an ex-POTUS explicitly stating to Canadians how they should vote in their national election

Surely Obama was subtler than that.

by Anonymousreply 551October 22, 2019 12:40 AM

Russia will be blown to rubble as soon as one of these neocon Dems get into office.

Why are we shocked they spent a $100,000 in Facebook ads to try and stop this?

by Anonymousreply 552October 22, 2019 1:00 AM

Bernie is with Tulsi.

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by Anonymousreply 553October 22, 2019 1:21 AM

Bernie can go have sex with himself. He's part of the reason we have Trump, with his relentless Hillary bashing and cult followers.

by Anonymousreply 554October 22, 2019 1:28 AM

R536: in your case "another gay asshole who hates women" seems to have you covered.

by Anonymousreply 555October 22, 2019 2:52 AM

[quote]an ex-POTUS explicitly stating to Canadians how they should vote in their national election

uh, it's called an endorsement. Politicians do it all the time.

by Anonymousreply 556October 22, 2019 3:09 AM

Agree that the CIA frequently gets involved in attempting to affect the outcome of foreign elections, but it's not considered acceptable for our leaders to blatantly interfere.

by Anonymousreply 557October 22, 2019 3:13 AM

R552, I'm shocked that you're such a dunderheaded nitwit.

by Anonymousreply 558October 22, 2019 4:47 AM

It wouldn't be that difficult r552 Russia's pretty much taking a couple of end tables away from being complete rubble now anyway.

by Anonymousreply 559October 22, 2019 1:23 PM

AP: Democrats' 2020 race has a new shadow: Hillary Clinton

And while Republicans, including Trump, continue aiming at a long-favored target, not everyone in the GOP thinks it will work as well as it has in the past.

"All the things that she warned us about in 2016 have come true," said GOP strategist Rick Tyler. "So she has the gravitas to weigh in. ... She's now a net positive for Democrats, not a negative."

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by Anonymousreply 560October 22, 2019 3:03 PM

Delusional. Hillary is interfering.

by Anonymousreply 561October 22, 2019 10:09 PM

Would you trust Hillary is a net positive when the advice comes from Republican strategist?

by Anonymousreply 562October 22, 2019 10:12 PM

Whatever; focusing on whether Hillary's a positive or not is just a diversion from the fact that Tulsi is a pustulant symptom of Russian interference in the US electoral process. Let the sunlight in.

by Anonymousreply 563October 22, 2019 10:15 PM

He does point out "All the things that she warned us about in 2016 have come true,".

by Anonymousreply 564October 22, 2019 10:19 PM

Tulsi is a Russian plant. Hillary was right again.

by Anonymousreply 565October 22, 2019 10:22 PM

NYT fucks up bigly

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by Anonymousreply 566October 22, 2019 11:54 PM

Hillary is a joke.

by Anonymousreply 567October 22, 2019 11:58 PM

Kill yourself, r567.

r566 that is a HUGE difference. Will Tulsi apologize?

by Anonymousreply 568October 23, 2019 12:03 AM

Calm down, R567. Hillary has never done one thing of note other than ride some man's coattails.

She's a waste of human flesh.

by Anonymousreply 569October 23, 2019 12:06 AM

It's actually not a new or unrecognized phenomenon. The less Hillary is in the partisan spotlight the more appealing she is to the public. Such as during her tenure as Secretary of State. Then she goes on the campaign trail and people are reminded why they dislike and mistrust her.

by Anonymousreply 570October 23, 2019 12:09 AM

How does that NYT correction change anything except by implicating the GOP in the whole Russian Tulsi-grooming process? (which the twitter guy at R566's link certainly doesn't doubt).

by Anonymousreply 571October 23, 2019 12:43 AM

r571 it makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE because she never said Tulsi was being groomed by the Russians, which is what Tulsi is harping on about. It's also funny because BOTH things are probably true. There's not as much space between Republicans and Russia at the moment.

by Anonymousreply 572October 23, 2019 12:48 AM

My word! I've never been so insulted in all my life r572 Most certainly nobody has any incriminating information on me! Please look away as I retreat to my fainting couch

by Anonymousreply 573October 23, 2019 2:09 PM

I don't give a crap that Hillary is unlikable. As far as I'm concerned, she has always been right when she gave us a warning about someone or some event. Attack Hillary all you want, but heed her warning. She's better than our very own DL oracle.

by Anonymousreply 574October 25, 2019 2:54 PM

Bitch stole my look AND my rancid ideology!

by Anonymousreply 575October 25, 2019 4:08 PM

Tulsi goes on Tucker Carlson and Hannity. She is being groomed to be a third party candidate. And Biden just stuck up for her and criticized Hillary. He is such an idiot.

And the NYT corrected itself that they inserted "Russian" in the article. Hillary never said the word Russian.

by Anonymousreply 576October 25, 2019 4:19 PM

[quote] And the NYT corrected itself that they inserted "Russian" in the article. Hillary never said the word Russian.

and also the chocolate ration has been increased. Hillary never said the chocolate ration had been reduced.

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by Anonymousreply 577October 25, 2019 9:13 PM

Tulsi announced she will not run for Congress again but wants to concentrate on running for President. This is a huge freakin clue that she is up to something. She needs to have a (D) next to her name to run in Hawaii. I don't think it will be there for long. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 578October 25, 2019 11:45 PM

Seriously R562

All I could think was "don't throw me in the briar patch!"

by Anonymousreply 579October 25, 2019 11:51 PM

That's racist, r579!

by Anonymousreply 580October 26, 2019 5:15 AM

So until I happened to see Tulsi's appearance on THE VIEW, I thought she might just be an unwitting asset. Meaning someone who the Russians are supporting and botting for becaues they know she is divisive and will draw support away from the Democratic leader . In other words, I had doubts she was a knowing asset .

Having watched her on THE VIEW, I am changing that opinion. Tulsi navigated that discussion like a KGB agent, never addressing the obvious questions about why Russian internet ops are dedicated to advancing her, but quickly inserting that she is a patriot dedicated to national security. Nationalism and promises of security are the two pillars of autoctratic messaging.

She is very good at it. She should be viewed VERY skeptically.

by Anonymousreply 581November 10, 2019 2:04 PM

So now it's not sufficient she is "groomed". Now she is an actual KGB agent. All for the sake of a bitter loser who thought it was HER turn.

You people are insane.

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by Anonymousreply 582November 10, 2019 6:08 PM

Tulsi's lawyers demand that Hillary retract "defamation"

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by Anonymousreply 583November 11, 2019 2:09 PM

I hope the Clintons have her killed. They're so good at it!

by Anonymousreply 584November 11, 2019 2:28 PM

How can she sue when Hillary never mentioned her by name?

by Anonymousreply 585November 11, 2019 4:07 PM

That Hill article neglects to mention the retraction published by the New York Times when they said "Russians" instead of "Republicans". Totally does not mention it. Unbelievable.

Tulsi is just trying for some headlines. I agree with r584.

by Anonymousreply 586November 11, 2019 5:16 PM

[quote] Tulsi navigated that discussion like a KGB agent, [quote]

The point was that she navigated the questions and avoided addressing them with the skill of a KGB agent, not that she actually IS a KGB agent.

The fact that it is an historical reference (KGB ended in 1991) should have been a clue that I wasn't suggesting she is a KGB agent. Officially, there is no more KGB. I meant she dodge questions by asserting propaganda LIKE, .. or IN THE MANNER OF a KGB agent.

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million plus votes. The orange dotard "won" the electoral college vote with 77 thousand votes over 3 states, MI, WI and PA. US intelligence has admitted that Russian intelligence hackers penetrated voting software in all 50 states They also claim that no votes were changed. Of course, they don't know this for a fact. And the GRU isn't going to bother changing votes when they can just make them vanish or add votes they create.

Clearly you are mommy triggered by Clinton and parrot the Jill Stein , Bernie Bro line about her being entitled blah blah blah..

Hopefully you and your kind will vote for the Democratic candidate this time around and have learned the cost of your tantrum over Hillary Clinton.

by Anonymousreply 587November 12, 2019 1:41 AM
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