A Path To Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 116)

Link to previous thread for reference.

Just FYI because I don't know if subscribers can see it or not but the last thread was blocked for non-subscribers around the 540 mark. You can tell because that's when it died. Someone suggested starting a new thread as soon as that happens. Good idea.

[quote]"I don't think it's really a driving issue. I just think it's a very big safety concern," Smith said.

This was some idiots comment about election security in the previous thread. Is it possible that these people think the term "election security" is actually talking about physical safety at the polling places and not hacking, etc.? I mean, no one is that stupid, right?

This was my response to the link posted, r2.

I wish stupid was fixable, [R583]

......In the eastern Kentucky mountain city of Pikeville, retired coal miner and railroad worker John Deskins says that election security is important but that Democrats are the ones who have mishandled the issue."What little bit I understand about it is they put other implements in it to try to alter exactly what's necessary," Deskins said.

*and*

DeRonda Smith, a retired teacher from Hazard, says she also thinks election security is important, but McConnell's handling of the issue won't change her support for him."I don't think it's really a driving issue. I just think it's a very big safety concern," Smith said.

*and*

Pikeville resident Jim Hamilton says he was a Democrat for 47 years."When Trump decided to run, I wasn't a Democrat anymore. I'm a Republican," Hamilton said."I couldn't stand anymore this Obama thing," he said. "Obama came here to eastern Kentucky; he shut our coal mines down."

—...sigh

The Hill:

DNC amassing huge 2020 research trove against Trump: report

NYT:

Democrats Plan Vote to Formalize Procedures for Impeachment Investigation

NYT:

Democrats to Broaden Impeachment Inquiry Into Trump to Corruption Accusations

Daily Beast:

Trump Privately Tells Confidants That ‘Socialism’ Won’t Be ‘So Easy’ to Beat in 2020

R2 I agree about starting a new thread when the other is subscribe only. The thread dies each time.

Pres Bone Spurs seems to care more about a map than actual human beings surviving a hurricane. The outrage should be deafening. He can be shamed but the media backs off when he throws out another shiny object for them to chase.

That asshole is still tweeting about Alabama

Cue Nelson Muntz.......

He has lost his mind. I cannot believe the military and all the top brass in every major organization and big business is not pressuring for a 25th amendment. He is probably giving away our secrets to Russia by the truck load.

Is Dumpy pissed at Alabama for not electing that racist old fart?

R10, you made me chuckle.

and there really should be constant coverage this week on the idea that Trump considered inviting the Taliban to Camp David). The week of 9/11!!!!

has any repub said anything publicly?

We should start a false story that it has recently been uncovered that Obama considered having the Taliban to Camp David on the 10 year anniversary of 9/11. Then, watch the Repugs go hypocritically apoplectic. Do you think anyone would notice or that the media would just ignore their hypocrisy and go on and on about how both sides are wrong?

Unfortunately, FCI - I suspect he has so many “acting” officials is because 1. he appoints people too incompetent to be confirmed; and,

2. because the remaining confirmed cabinet officials are too stupid (Carson), loyal (Barr) or corrupt (Chao) to invoke the 25th

Yesterday, we saw video on twitter of Hurricane Dorian victims, people from the Bahamas who have lost everything, and were turned away from Florida because they didn't have visas. They were not allowed to get off the ferry that took them from the Bahamas to Florida. These included families with young children.

And Trump picked a fight with John Legend and his "filthy-mouthed wife" which the media is now giving endless coverage to.

Our racist president knows how to SQUIRREL!!! the media into giving cover reporting.

The Hill:

Trump suggests activist investor intervene at CNN, calls network 'bad for the USA'

The future Queen of America (sorry, not Miss Lindzee) is heading to Alabama. Perhaps she will ltell them how the Chosen One, daddy, turned the hurricane, and stopped Dorian from reaching Alabama.

USA Today:

Donald Trump mocks Republican rivals like Sanford as 'Three Stooges'

As Ivanka ages her facial structure is very odd. Probably from the chin implant.

Chrissy Teigen inspires #PresidentPussyAssBitch tag.

Big article in The Atlantic this morning about the Trump kids. "Ivanka was always Trump's favorite. But Don Jr. is emerging as his natural successor."

From the article: Trump's "favorite fatherly maxim was 'Don’t trust anyone'—and he liked to test his children by asking whether they trusted him. If they said yes, they were reprimanded."

In a previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017, the United States successfully extracted from Russia one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government.

A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.

Thanks for the thread, OP.

And I don't think that the threads getting paywalled have anything to do with the posts slowing down. I think people have gotten so tired over watching this shit show that they're taking a break or something.

If someone's saying that the last thread didn't get paywalled until about 540, that definitely doesn't explain the reason these threads have slowed. Previous threads would hit 540 on average, within two days. The last thread was open for 2 weeks and still hasn't maxed out.

R16.. exactly! the ONLY people left are corrupt as he is and/or incompetent attention political powerplayer wannabe whores! end of story!..

can you even FATHOM THIS: trump wanted the taliban to come to camp david! not just meet with them, but wanted them at CAMP DAVID!!!!!!!!!

THEN AGAIN, we did have trump have russian officials in the oval office and laughing with them that he fired comey, regardless if comey was right or wrong, he IS A AMERICAN, A AMERICAN CITIZEN, HEAD OF A UNITED STATES INTELLIGENCE AGENCY and you are laughing at and insulting him with RUSSIANS! in the oval office!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAMMIT EVERYONE KNOWS IF THIS WAS ANY OTHER PRESIDENT FROM ANY OTHER PARTY, JUST THESE 2 EXAMPLES OF TRUTH OUT OF COUNTLESS WOULD HAVE THE 25TH AMENDMENT SERVED!..

That article at r26. Jesus Christ.

I cant wait for when the pre surgery ivanka genes show on her kids.

What the NYT makes clear but does not quite spell out: Trump's top priority in Afghan peace process was to ensure that he personally and nobody else got the Nobel Peace Prize. We're now resuming the war because Trump could not bear to see anyone else get credit for ending it.

Margi Wilding@noscreamin

Replying to @davidfrum

I think we should nominate him for a Darwin Award and tell him it is just like a Nobel.

TIME:

Trump's New Math: Inside the Plan to Flip Blue States in 2020

The Hill:

Trump tweets he had 'nothing' to do with Turnberry, Doonbeg visits

Washington Post:

NOAA’s chief scientist will investigate why agency backed Trump over its experts on Dorian, email shows

Since the report's release do democrats actually ever mention The Mueller Investigation any more ? Does MSNBC ?

I find that annoying myself, R36. It seems like the investigation never happened, let alone the findings.

Every time they do a story about potential Russian interference in the 2020 election (and given how much election interfering they’re doing around the world right now, the topic comes up a lot), the MSNBC hosts almost always highlight the fact that Mueller has repeatedly warned us about this.

Much as they were four years ago, the Big Three evening newscasts continue to be obsessed with Donald Trump, pounding him incessantly with highly-negative coverage. But then as now, the networks’ fixation on Trump seems to be leaving comparatively little airtime for his would-be presidential challengers.

From June 1 through August 31, MRC analysts found the networks devoted 838 minutes of airtime — nearly 14 hours — to coverage of President Trump personally, the vast majority of which was negative. (Note: This report only examines coverage of Trump himself, not generic stories about his administration’s activities or those of other top-ranking officials, which accounted for an additional 213 minutes of evening news airtime.)

The airtime devoted to Trump was eleven times greater than that spent on the leading Democratic candidate, former Vice President Joe Biden (just under 74 minutes), and vastly more than the networks gave California Senator Kamala Harris (30 minutes), South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg (15 minutes) or Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren (just under 14 minutes).

[quote] Big Three evening newscasts continue to be obsessed with Donald Trump

Umm, he's the freaking president. Of course he's going to get coverage in the news.

If we had a real democracy hed have been gone long ago.

Reuters:

U.S. House committees launch probe of Trump, Giuliani and Ukraine

Now we know where Lindsey has been.

Gert Wilder tweets pic of Lindsey and himself together and then deletes it.

Thanks for the link R42. I heard a snippet of a report saying that Trump wasn't approving aid to Ukraine until they agreed to help him with the 2020 election - specifically to get dirt on his opponents. That just sounded outrageous, but then again, there's even weirder shit going on.

Politico:

Adam Schiff lashes Michael Flynn for refusing to cooperate

The tweet pic @ r43

Is he related to Ethel Kennedy?

GOOD!

[quote] A San Francisco-based federal judge on Monday restored a nationwide injunction against President Donald Trump’s move to ban asylum seekers who pass through another country en route to the United States.

The outrages never end.

JFC R49 - Does Trump and his idiotic cabinet not understand that if we don't have bees, we don't have food? Jeebus...

R50 - Our president knows full well that bees do NOT pollinate quarter-pounders, with or without cheese.

NYTimes now reporting that a cabinet member pressured the NOAA (?) to support Trump's claims about Dorian/Alabama.

......

What a collection of ugly old men...the majority white.

Is this the bottom? Anyone? Fucking about over Hurricane Dorian.

Examiner:

'Hell to pay': Democrats warn Republicans against ignoring background check bill

Politico:

Proposed ban on Pentagon spending at Trump properties gets new push

Republicans have already cancelled four primaries. Chipping away at democratic processes and aiming for a coronation.

In South Carolina, since voters don't register by party, Republicans will be voting in the Democratic primary instead.

Fox needs to give Mark Sanford a town hall. The Trump meltdown would be... interesting.

Politico:

Trump claims he'll release 'extremely complete' financial details

The Hill:

Giuliani tears into Democrats after House opens probe into whether he pressured Ukraine to target Biden

R58 That is crazy. All by design? Something Putin likely told them to do. Now conservatives will vote in Dem primaries. Great!

We are not at the bottom. We have all said things will get much, much worse before they get better. It will get better.

As far as Donnie boy Jr being the next candidate, does it matter? The GOP has gone completely over to the dark side and will never go back. We will get candidates who are like Pres Bone Spurs from now on from that side. All those poor "regular" conservatives don't stand a chance. The base wants to be entertained. They want insanity.

[quote]All those poor "regular" conservatives don't stand a chance.

If there is one think they are not, it is poor.

R63 Their eating habits are lard and diet cokes.

And plenty of them are poor just not the people who run their party to keep their voters poor.

We have a chief executive who wasn't fairly or truly elected, he illegally profits financially from that office, he is running concentration camps within our borders, he has sold information to hostile foreign powers, he has been deporting people who were legally here, AND WE ARE ALL JUST LETTING IT HAPPEN! In the 60s, people banded together and took to the streets. Now we are just bending over and letting this orange fuhrer fuck us over. Many Germans who lived under Hitler would try to deflect their guilt and complicity by claiming they weren't "aware" of the Nazi death camps. No one in 21st century America can claim they never heard of the crimes and atrocities of Donald J Trump.

[quote]Now we are just bending over and letting this orange fuhrer fuck us over.

We are not either! I am so involved that I sometimes have to recharge my phone THREE TIMES A DAY!

Why do something when you can IG or Fortnite or PS4 or binge something for 48 hours straight.

I have a lot of casual friends who never watch the news and have no idea what is going on. When I tell them things they are shocked. They say they don't watch the news because it is "too depressing".

Mark Sanford is from South Carolina. Hopefully he can raise enough of a stink to get the South Carolina GOP to hold a primary.

I'm glad someone realized our operatives are in grave danger and is bringing them home safely.

r65, I hear ya, and I want to help, but...project runway is on tonight and...

Mark Sanford is an asshole too. Did you hear what he said? He said he's running against Trump, doesn't expect to get the Repub nomination (well no shit Mark), but WILL vote for Trump in the general anyway because "I'm a Republican." WTF?!?

He thinks Trump is still better than any Democrat???

Fuck him.

Agree that new threads should open as threads are pay-walled.

Ok, why are we still calling these threads the Mueller investigation when the investigation is closed?

I get the treason stuff (plus I love the clever play on words the OP and posters come up with using it), but not the Mueller stuff, that's old news at this point.

Oh well, anyway OP, I LOVE the title of this thread!

Tradition, r73......

Technically the Mueller report is NOT closed...most was sent to other depts and prosecutors.

We could transition to this format:

A Path To Treason (The Mueller/Impeachment Investigation part 116)

Gawd, Queen Suckup.

I feel horrible for that Russian spy who is now living in the US. He thought he'd be protected but piece of most disgusting shit ever Trump has now put him in jeopardy. NBC news now has a pretty good idea of who he is as a reporter went to his door and 2 cars came to make him leave. The former spy will now likely be moved somewhere else but you just KNOW some news outlet is going to actually out him and his name/identity.

I sadly expect the assholes on Fox to make him their target now and start rumors about him, claiming he's an example of Russian interference because he was "part of the coup to take down Trump".

So Trump has now blown a major source of intelligence we had from within the Russian government. That alone should be impeachable

but with all the new investigations being opened, it's hard to see Democrats finish them all in time. They should have done this MONTHS AGO

Moscow Mitch & Blunt don't need Trump's permission to vote on legislation.

What a cop-out.

From r77.....

Pecker's vault. R78

The Hill:

Democrats call for Ross to resign for reportedly threatening to fire officials

Susan Collins primary challenger drops out.

Why in the hell is Ken Dilanian on television and in the NYT practically outing a CIA operative who wasthisclose to Putin ?...and the stations are running with the story ...has media lost their fucking minds ? They are going to get this person killed.

Sarah. Huckabee Sanders on her Fox & Friends debut, complains about women being mean to her.

R85 and all the current and would-be spies in dangerous, autocratic countries will now think twice before continuing or deciding to start being spies because now the US government can no longer be trusted.

ABC:

'We have to be very careful,' Trump warns of gangs entering US from Bahamas

Politico: Dems see Trump’s alleged self-dealing as new path to impeachment

Pro-impeachment Democrats are hoping that a renewed focus on corruption and self-dealing could give their effort to oust Trump the momentum that former special counsel Robert Mueller never did.

“The Mueller report has clearly been muddled and I’m not sure that the public really has much of a concept of what that showed,” said Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.), who supports impeachment. “And corruption is pretty easy to understand.”

While they’re not quite admitting defeat on the Mueller report, Yarmuth and other pro-impeachment lawmakers cited efforts by the White House and the Justice Department to slow-walk the House Judiciary Committee’s subpoenas for documents and testimony related to the Mueller probe, many of which are lagging in federal court and could take months to reach a conclusion.

He is going to have a series of sudden "wins" both foreign and domestic, but mainly foreign, leading up to election day. Russia and China will give him "wins" that is only temporary. Bet your house on it!

R90 so he’s getting re-elected, FCI?

how many "paths" to impeachment do the moderate Dems in swing or red areas need? If they don't feel brave enough to come out and now support impeachment then I really don't know what will. How many more unethical and illegal things does he need to do before those cowards say yes?

R91 No. I don't think it will be enough. I think people are sick of this show and want it canceled.

I was thinking about the Russian source who was extracted in 2017. I wonder if this source was the basis for some of the info used in the FISA warrant.

Remember the day that both Pelosi and McConnell exited a meeting looking grim? I now believe the information they were given wasn't about Russia and Trump; I think it was a medical update on Trump's dementia.

R65, Cellphones in the hands of children, teens, and college students have changed everything, most importantly attention spans, interests, and values.

Young people actually aspire to be "influencers," aka corporate shills, mostly for clothing and cosmetics, on Instagram or YouTube. Girls emulate Kardashians and Jenners, not Sally Ride or HRC. Indeed, Prince Harry married such a person.

There is no way mass civil protests will occur in this country again. Young musicians aren't writing lyrics of protest. Young writers aren't penning books of protest. And with the exception of David Hogg, young people aren't forming organizations of protest.

They simply cannot be off their cellphones long enough. They are the first generations to die while texting.

I hope the Democrat wins in North Carolina today...maybe it could happen.

ABC News:

69% of white men without a college degree approve of Pres. Trump. But he’s dropped 12 points among non-college white women, to 42%, and is down 15 points among college-educated white men, to 34%—a new low.

[quote]But he’s dropped 12 points among non-college white women, to 42%

That's encouraging.

I like that catch phrase! Cancel this Show! or Trump Show Canceled!

"69% of white men without a college degree cannot tell fact from fiction; don't know how and don't care to read; are susceptible to propaganda from Fox; are racist and misogynist; love guns; hate 'Socialism' while living on Unemployment Compensation, Supplemental Social Security, Black Lung benefits, and Medicaid; couldn't define 'Fascism' if it locked them up in a cage; admire the Nazis even though the Allies defeated them; think of themselves as tough guys while being either skinny or blubbery; believe any day now they will be rich by playing the Lottery, so they hate taxing the top 1%; hate both abortion and also living poor children who aren't theirs; would rather have been 'dead than Red,' but now love Putin and his attacks on our elections, his invasion of Ukraine, his annexation of Crimea, and his attempts to destroy NATO and have US troops leave Europe, Syria, and Afghanistan;

and in general hate the world for their own failures dooming them from childhood, when they hated their teachers and school."

FIXED, R98.

GLIMPSED FOX AND FRIENDS this morning and their headline story was that CNN LEAKED the whole russian agent story, and CNN is wrong and in trouble for doing so and outing this agent??...

R101! nailed it....the only question is do they NOT know they are all of this or DON"T care?...

r98, proof positive that women are smarter than men.

r101, RIGHT FUCKING ON!!!! YOU NAILED IT!!!!

r101 for PRESIDENT!!!!

Good post R101

Open primaries and primary caucuses are opportunities for mischief. They always have been. It allows people to "cross over" and vote in a bald attempt to "choose your opponent." The entire purpose of primaries is that they are partisan. They are the party's opportunity to choose from a field of candidates from their own party that one person who best reflects what voters want from that party's candidate. All primaries ought to be closed, and caucuses ought to be eliminated. In a closed primary, the voter declares their party affiliation, then votes for the person they feel best represents their interests from that party. When the Republicans play these undemocratic games and block candidates from appearing on the ballot all they do is piss off a lot of voters.

Souse & Prune

Am I really going to have to see the Huckabeast for the rest of my life now? I want that cunt to slither away.

I read one account of this Taliban meeting that suggested it was the Taliban who cancelled, not Trump. The talks fell apart, etc. I want more clarity. Who started the dialogue, who proposed coming to Camp David? It had to be Pompeo. Trump had to extend the invitation. Did he do it without proper preliminary groundwork, expecting another photo opportunity? It is thecraziest shit I've ever heard from him. They are a terrorist group, an extremist cult. It's like inviting ISIS to Camp David. And doing it right before 9/11 anniversary? This is something he would certainly think was a great idea so he could show off. What a complete asshole. SO disgusting. I hate this man.

Washington Post: Trump accidentally tweeted an insult at a pastor. Here’s how the pastor responded.

But Carl didn’t mince words for the president. “Your heart must be in a dangerous place to have such a consistent flow of defamation and disrespect towards so many,” he said.

He interspersed his own comments throughout the letter with quotes from Abraham Lincoln, a president who never got to use Twitter but still came up with plenty of bon mots. Carl said that he passes Lincoln’s birthplace, which is now a National Park Service site, in his church’s town of Hodgenville, almost every day on his commute.

Perhaps Lincoln would not have been overly fond of Twitter, based on one 1861 quotation that Carl selected from the great emancipator: “I am rather inclined to silence, and whether that be wise or not, it is at least more unusual nowadays to find a man who can hold his tongue than to find one who cannot.”

Washington Examiner:

Family split: 'Tension' over Trump at George W. Bush staff reunion in Washington

USA Today:

Trump says N.C. rally-goers were 'soaking wet' but it wasn't raining

That’s because the wet attendees were in Alabama

Apparently, Lindzey is not the only politician that loves being featured in a parade.

John Bolton just got fired.

CNN:

President Donald Trump has privately and repeatedly expressed opposition to the use of foreign intelligence from covert sources, including overseas spies who provide the US government with crucial information about hostile countries.

A former senior intelligence official told CNN that Trump "believes they're people who are selling out their country."

[quote]John Bolton just got fired.

I'm sure he took it very calmly.

So who's left beyond Javanka now?

Jared has that thirty-year-old assistant who just took over middle east negotiations. I'm sure he's available to be the next National Security Advisor.

Trump tweet on Bolton firing.

"I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week."

John Bolton Out as National Security Adviser

By Peter Baker

Sept. 10, 2019, 12:01 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — President Trump fired John R. Bolton, his third national security adviser, on Tuesday amid fundamental disagreements over how to handle major foreign policy challenges like Iran, North Korea and Afghanistan. Mr. Trump announced the decision on Twitter. “I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.”

His departure comes as Mr. Trump is pursuing diplomatic openings with two of the United States’ most intractable enemies, efforts that have troubled hard-liners in the administration, like Mr. Bolton, who view North Korea and Iran as profoundly untrustworthy.

The president has continued to court Kim Jong-un, the repressive leader of North Korea, despite Mr. Kim’s refusal to surrender his nuclear program and despite repeated short-range missile tests by the North that have rattled its neighbors. In recent days, Mr. Trump has expressed a willingness to meet with President Hassan Rouhani of Iran under the right circumstances, and even to extend short-term financing to Tehran, although the offer has so far been rebuffed.

To his admirers, Mr. Bolton was supposed to be a check on what they feared would be naïve diplomacy, a cleareyed realist who would keep a president without prior experience in foreign affairs from giving away the store to wily adversaries. But Mr. Trump has long complained privately that Mr. Bolton was too willing to get the United States into another war. The tension between the men was aggravated in recent months by the president’s decisions to call off a planned airstrike on Iran in retaliation for the downing of an American surveillance drone and to meet with Mr. Kim at the Demilitarized Zone and cross over into North Korea.

Trump is projecting when he calls them "people who are selling out their country." He's like the

Trump is never NOT projecting.

WTF?

Donald Trump Jr. joked about #MeToo movement during NC campaign rally

Politico:

Lawmakers threaten to subpoena Pentagon over Turnberry records

Why are they always “threatening” to do these things? Just fucking DO IT and don’t warn anyone.

From Newsweek

Christine Blasey Ford's attorney conveyed to a feminist organization, that Ford's testimony before Congress during the Kavanaugh hearings, was politically motivated.

Business Insider:

National Security Advisor John Bolton is out — here are all the casualties of the Trump administration so far

r109, Trump made up the "Camp David" story, okay? He is demented.

The Taliban spokesman said any negotiations would be in Qatar. They cancelled all talks, period. Never was C.D. involved.

AS IF the Taliban leaders would trust American authorities on US soil. And who would fly them here, AF 1?

[quote]What a collection of ugly old men...the majority white.

Don't Mnuchin, Ross, DJT, etc., all have trophy wives, though?

How come when the Taliban and the President give us 2 different stories, I believe the Taliban?

Can you imagine having to fuck Wilbur Ross?

Speaking of trophy wives....

[quote]And who would fly them here, AF 1?

Perhaps Pakistan International Airlines

R131 - “Can you imagine having to fuck Wilbur Ross?”

No. Just no. Nope. I said NO! 🚫

R129... that's because their wives are all whores..... and the men are too stupid or so pathetic and desperate that they don't care they are being used.. they figure each other is using the other, (i.e. mcconnell and his wife!) so what's the problem?!..

pretty amazing when you think EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THAT ADMINISTRATION IS MARRIED AND NOT FOR LOVE!

Does love of money count, r135?

[quote]Supplemental Social Security

Just for clarification, r101, because there is much confusion between programs:

SSI= Supplemental Security Income and is FEDERAL WELFARE for sick poor people like disabled adult children.

it is not SSDI=Social Security Disability Insurance, which is for people who have paid into Social Security who become disabled.

RSDI= Retirement, Survivors and Disability INSURANCE ↓

SSRI= regular Social Security Retirement Insurance.

SSSI= Social Security SURVIVORS Insurance (confused with SSI) for widows and minor children, and

SSDI= Social Security Disability Insurance.

John Bolton out. There aren't many left. Who will 'win'?

People can buy trophies, r129.

The wet trumpanzees waiting to get into Twirrler's rally were wet because they pissed themselves.

[quote]Can you imagine having to fuck Wilbur Ross?

Well, "have to" are a bit too strong of words.

She probably just pumps it like a stress ball while she reads.

I wonder if this Bolton departure is at all a possible distraction from the BOMBSHELL story that broke last night about Trump mishandling classified info from a spy in Russia, resulting in that spy having to leave Russia and come to the US, resulting in the US having less intelligence on Putin.

I mean that story is damaging as hell

No one's talking about it now. It's all about Bolton

Slavery has gone on throughout all of history and is very common now. Humans have always exploited other humans and always find ways to justify it. If civilization crashes because of climate change or other world events, slavery will be back full force. Women will have no rights again.

^^^Sorry wrong thread.

R145, maybe not.

HOs' favorite studmuffin, Jason Miller, loses in a defamation lawsuit vs Splinter.

[quote]69% of white men without a college degree approve of Pres. Trump.

Speaking of stupid white men: – Reuters reports on farmers whose business is suffering due to Trump's trade war:

"Instead of directing their anger at Trump, dozens of farmers interviewed by Reuters blasted the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and other Washington institutions they believe are thwarting his true agenda. Unsubstantiated conspiracy theories involving USDA staff are circulating in farm country and gaining traction online."

R148 I do not feel sorry for the farmers. Fuck them. He is literally causing uncalled for pain and suffering among them yet they just blindly follow him all the while he has shown he only cares for himself. I mute the TV or turn the channel when I see any of his voters or supporters telling why they still support him even though he is destroying everything around him.

Yang is showing some momentum.

R150, incels and Repugs are propping up Yang. He needs to go.

yeah fuck the repub farmers. I only feel sorry for the minority of farmers who vote Democrats

[quote]yeah fuck the repub farmers.

Well, the ones that are hot enough....

Not the ones interviewed in diners

There's a poll showing Bernie kicking Trump's ass in Texas.. Bernie??? Texas???

Bernie, should he be the nominee will never win Texas.

remember it's Sept 2019 not the last week of October 2020. A lot can change

the deplorables will vote for this bastard no matter what and repub establishment will cheat to help as much as they can

Hopefully more people who didn't show up in 2016 will finally feel compelled to vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is

NYT:

‘Trump Unplugged’: A President as His Own National Security Adviser

AP:

GOP holds NC House seat, easing fears of Democratic momentum

Easing fears Russia can still hack our elections. All the red parts of the district came in quick but the blue parts were delayed. Nothing fishy here, folks. Move along.

Meanwhile, Pres Bone Spurs told Bolton he was no longer needed for the job. We can say that to this abomination a year from now.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R160 Well, they SHOULD have won seeing as both are Super Red districts. The fact one was super duper close, like the special elections were in 2017 (Dems don't turn out for special elections) means we are exactly where we need to be. No worries.

We still have 235 seats in the House to their 200. The House is still ours.

The GOP should be very worried. Just like 2017, another very red district was close. Remember that year, so many specials were close but Dems lost? Those districts were like NC-9. Dems historically do not turn out for special elections. Nov 2020, NC-9 may just flip. Things have only gotten worse for the GOP since the mid-terms.

R148 and r149, Do these ignorant farmers also believe that the Chinese government, in cancelling ALL its contracts with American farmers, is part of some USDA conspiracy to thwart Trump?

R26, I hope the CIA really understands that Trump isn't "mishandling" our nation's secrets; he is purposefully handing them over to Putin.

Treason.

The media is so totally stupid it boggles the mind. The reason Trump and Pence went to NC to campaign for the piece of shit GOP candidate is because it looked like he'd win. Trump shows up within 48 hours of the election and now he will claim credit for the win. When the truth is he was piggy backing on the Congressional race and not vice versa. He needed this. He needed to be associated with a win right about now.

And it has now been established that inviting the Taliban to Camp David was Trump's idea and Bolton not only strongly disagreed with Trump, he leaked it so it blew up in Trump's face. The Taliban was never going to go anyway, but Trump thought he could stage manage another photo op and do something to turn his dropping poll numbers around. The Foreign policy fuck ups are coming home to roost. North Korea is shooting off missiles again, the CIA had to extract a spy because of Trump, and Iran is producing fissile materials for nuclear weapons.

Trump is crazy. I hope they keep exposing him. That's the only way to stop him. Expose him.

Asshole Ken Dilanian had a great time telling Andrea Mitchell about how he exposed the Russian Spy, in great detail, and he was especially excited when the CIA/FBI agents drove up to him as he staked out the guy's house, and asked him if they could help him. He is too stupid to know he fucked up. Either that, or he is an asset for Russia. Because what he did was beyond stupid. He endangered lives and doesn't seem to give a fuck. He thinks this makes him a tough journalist.

Yep. Trump and the press fucked over a valuable asset.

R165 I believe they do understand that. They know a lot more than we will ever know. And they talk to Intel people in other countries who also know a lot. Trump reminds me of the little kid in grade school who would stand in the middle of the playground and shut his eyes real tight believing we couldn't see him.

Dilanian should be fired from nbc send that disgrace to fox news

Now that the Russian source has been publicly outed, how long until the documents he passed along are outed as well?

R171, if the source was so high ranking as they said, don't you think the Russians would have noticed his sudden absence in Moscow - way before this story broke out?

Politico:

Trump slams 'phony' poll showing him trailing several 2020 Democrats

Everything is fake or phony to him if it does not show him in a positive light.

The Russians obviously knew the guy was missing and drew their own conclusions. I don't think it's a coincidence that all of those other Russian guys just happened to fall off buildings or shoot themselves in the back.

The point is that the source's existence would have been classified information and anything that source passed on to us would be classified as well. Now the source is public knowledge, and every major news organization is undoubtedly submitting FOIA requests for every document related to him and what he told us about Putin's interference in election matters. Some documents are undoubtedly still classified - but others may not be. And since Trump's administration leaks like a sieve, how long before those un-classified documents start leaking out.

Additionally, there are already rumors that the Washington Post was sitting on this story for a couple of years because of National Security reasons - well, they don't have to sit on the story anymore, do they?

I was so surprized to find out that the whole meeting with the Taliban thing was real, and not just some sundowner hallucination of Donnie Moscow. I just assumed it was bullshit.

AP:

Trump marks his 3rd 9/11 anniversary with war still raging

Today is 9/11: So I am posting this in all relevant threads. It's a must:

"GOP rallies around Trump 9/11 role. “While Obama and Biden were cowering in fear on Air Force 1, Mr. Trump was on the ground with first responders searching for survivors and pulling people to safety,” Jim Jordan says. “I remember seeing him on TV, running toward the danger.”

This, from Gym Jordan, United States Congressman.

That was satirical, r178.....

L.A. Times: Trump team's homeless tour of L.A. sparks suspicions

"The president has taken notice of the homelessness crisis, particularly in cities and states where the liberal policies of overregulation, excessive taxation, and poor public service delivery are combining to dramatically increase poverty and public health risks," Deputy Press Secretary Judd Deere said.

Local and state officials were skeptical. The offices of Garcetti and Gov. Gavin Newsom put out statements listing steps they said the administration could take right away if it truly intended to help solve the crisis.

Gym Jordan probably thinks he did say it, and that he was right, R179.

ABC:

Trump White House hasn't held a traditional press briefing in 6 months

NYT:

White House Pressed Agency to Repudiate Weather Forecasters Who Contradicted Trump

Reuters:

Bipartisan senators seek decision from Trump by Thursday on gun control

r179. Satire is dead. When you have people like Trump's Deplorables who will believe ANYTHING the Liar in Chief has to say, no matter how illogical and stupid, you have to assume that SOME of them will actually believe this bullshit story.

There are people out there who refuse to believe that the Holocaust happened, or that anywhere near 6 million Jews were killed during it. Think it can't happen here?

Think again.

is the reason why the CIA put out that statement because as intelligence, they fall under the executive branch and were forced to? like the NOAA?

I mean obviously it's true that Trump compromised the safety and cover of the spy in Russia

I suspect you are correct r186.

I fully expect to see many, many resignations in the intelligence community. Much like the justice and state departments and virtually any of the science based agencies.

AP:

White House lawyer, nominated as judge, stays mum at hearing

ABC:

Trump shares new details about his morning on 9/11

[quote]"I was looking out from a building in midtown Manhattan directly at the World Trade Center when I saw a second plane, at a tremendous speed, go into the second tower," Trump said Wednesday.

[quote]Trump Tower is located on 5th Avenue between 56th and 57th Streets, a little more than four miles away from ground zero.

Love that shade.

[quote]"I could give a crap," Graham, a South Carolina Republican, told Fox News host Brett Baier on Tuesday. "I could care less. This whole thing is a bunch of garbage."

Lindsey is showing 'potty mouth' again. Where is Lindsey picking up such talk? Has Lindsey been hanging around some crude talking men?

R190, Trump sees himself as the key protagonist in all events. The universe revolves around him.

Marianne could put Miss Lindz in her place.

[quote] Trump Tower is located on 5th Avenue between 56th and 57th Streets, a little more than four miles away from ground zero.

Unless Trump's space was located at street level I'm not certain that dismises how far you can see from the high rise.

CNN:

Exclusive: Michael Cohen is interviewed for probe into Trump Organization

I can see the Manhattan skyline from my roof in Long Beach 20 miles away. And from one of the windows in my office on the 10 floor in midtown East we have a partial view of 1 World Trade so that’s actually one thing Cheetolini has said that is potentially true.

Reuters:

Supreme Court allows full enforcement of asylum crackdown

Washington Post:

North Carolina Republicans vote to override a budget veto while Democrats were at a 9/11 ceremony

Speaking of Manhattan, what's up with the Madam nowadays?

It's been 8 months since anything has been heard from her.

Republicans: scum ALL OF THEM.

Politico:

Trump denies asking Mulvaney to pressure federal agency on hurricane claims

Washington Post:

‘You’re a prop in the back’: Advisers struggle to obey Trump’s Kafkaesque rules

Law & Crime:

Military Postpones Refueling Deal with Scottish Airport Amid Investigation of ‘Serious Conflicts of Interest’

[quote] Supreme Court allows full enforcement of asylum crackdown

Unsurprisingly. 7 to 2. The third party safe haven rule is basic international law.

The court said the rule, which requires most immigrants who want asylum to first seek safe haven in a third country through which they had traveled on their way to the United States, could go into effect as litigation challenging its legality continues.

Liberal Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg dissented.

Those North Carolina Republicans are a special level of evil. Fuck me. Why would anyone vote for this, right-left-conservative-liberal-moderate WHY????? They don't believe in your vote. None of you.

He saw the 2nd plane hit alright- on fucking TV!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh goody, r180, I look forward to the Trump Administration's comprehensive plan to confront homelessness. Maybe Ben Carson will even stay awake during the announcement!

(Also of course their comprehensive plan to address mental health issues, since that is the one and only cause of mass shootings. Well, that and video games, but I'm sure they'll get around to that too.)

Daily Beast:

Trump Flirts With $15 Billion Bailout for Iran, Sources Say

What a disgrace, r207. I’m always defending Democrats caring for our immediate neighbors as well as the kids in cages. Republicans care for neither. And Dump is going to bail out Iran? Get the fuck out of here. (Not you, Just this horseshit.)

And every Republican who went right onto the fainting couch after the Iran Deal (lookin at you know who!) will assure everyone that this is entirely righteous, true, and just.

Washington Post:

What was Trump actually doing on 9/11? An anniversary fact check.

Bail out Iran after WE left the deal? Now they want them to come back to the Obama deal although not call it the Obama deal. WOW. Just WOW. How can this thing even get 10% of the vote? Our entire govt is in free fall. Who can stand 4 more years of this?

I'm gonna take a wild guess, r211, that every Republican Senator (one will register concern, but still) will go along with this deal, forgetting everything they have said for the past 30 years. I'm cynical that way.

R212 Cynical? Or just understand the deep, vast hypocrisy of the GOP, then and now.

I hope we look back 20 years from now at this being the end of the Repug party.

End of the planet, more likely.

R206, I’d laugh, except I think the “confrontation” with homelessness will involve taking anyone deemed to be homeless into custody and putting in them in a detention facility. A privately run facility, of course, so the jailers will want to keep these people locked up for as long as possible.

Part of the reason there is so much homelessness in CA is because of the mild weather compared to other more wintry parts of the country. If you polled the homeless here you'd find many migrated here from colder states where homelessness is deadly in winter.

Re: the 9/11 inconsistencies, there is literally nothing that man will not like about. Nothing. Not even the worst terrorist attack on American soil and his seemingly starring role in it. A true deplorable person.

jailing and confining the homeless? another way to make "private money"!...

oh yeah, regulation on water is out the window as of yesterday too.. how's everyone doing there in FLINT?

republican hypocrisy? well it goes waaaaaaaaaay beyond hypocrisy? it's literally EITHER TRUE MENTAL ILLNESS INSANITY OR TRUE EVIL AND/OR BOTH!...

My god, that Valerie Plame campaign video is really effective. So well-produced too. I’d vote for her for anything after seeing that.

Politico:

Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near the White House

ABC:

Trump details split with 'Mr. Tough Guy' Bolton and his 'very big mistakes'

AP:

Some Democrats concerned as Judiciary sets impeachment rules

The North Carolina Republican Legislatures deceptively holding a vote to override the Governor's veto on the budget while the Democrats were attending a 9-11 memorial service, is as low as one can get. They make Wisconsin GOP legislators look ethical by comparison.

The NC Republican Legislators outright LIED to their Democratic colleagues about holding a vote during that time.

Of course, the NC citizens will tolerate such nasty, deplorable tactics.

Even in South Carolina, the GOP would not go that low, and the fewer Democrats would have a fit, and people would be demonstrating at the Capitol in Columbia.

USA Today:

Hillary Clinton leafs through her emails at Italian art exhibit

Answering reporters questions outside the exhibit, Clinton told Italian news outlet TGR Veneto, "It was and is still one of the strangest, most absurd events in American political history."

"And anyone can go in and look at them -- there's nothing there," Clinton says. "It's an artistic way of making the same point that I made in the book I wrote, 'What Happened,' and that is, there was nothing wrong, there was nothing that should have been so controversial."

He was right!

R224.. and never mind, the basic question of WHY WEREN'T the republicans out as well at the 9/11 memorial event there in north carolina?!...

Thank you, r227. That was my question as well.

I hope there are homeless people infected with Lice who embrace Trump and I hope they take a shit on his shoes.

I here they will be using an erstwhile FAA building for the homeless.

NYT:

Trump Administration to Finalize Rollback of Clean Water Protections

R230, really? Also your use of the term “erstwhile” made me think of Emma Thompson and “Years and Years” and sent chills down my spine.

She does have a history of letting her clothes speak... always coincidentally, of course!

Pay attention: The Media has their long knives out for Pelosi. They have harassed her asking ignorant provocative shallow questions at all her PRess availabilities. She holds a briefing almost daily. They are focused on HER inability to get Gun Safety reforms done. On HER inability to untie her caucus around impeachment, etc. Everything they are pushing her for is Mitch McConnell's failures. So we need to call them out. Because when we go after Mitch and it trends, the media notices. This is some real shit, people. We need to go after the fucking media

USA Today:

Andrew McCabe: prosecutors recommend charges for former FBI official

R230, also, the use of the term "I here" sent chills up MY spine.

It seems like they are really trying to prosecute all the investigators who were even tangentially attaches to the Russia probe. Like, what did Andrew McCabe do besides try and protect the country against an asset placed by a hostile foreign power?

This has Bill Barr’s fat fingers all over it.

*attached

It looks to me like the stitching on back of melons-ia's coat are there to point at her butt.

Nancy told the reporter from the SF Chronicle "what the hell is what" yesterday! She read her for filth. It was a thing of beauty.

Despite all her facelifts, Nancy was looking old in that clip. I bit rattled too I think.

And before anybody calls me sexist, I think Joe and Bernie and too fuckin' old to be running for president too! So there!

In fact the whole Democratic party hierarchy looks too old, we really need some young blood in some leadership positions.

CNBC:

US budget deficit smashes $1 trillion mark, highest in 7 years

AP:

Russian police raid more than 200 activists' homes, including opposition leader Alexei Navalny's

Yeah Nancy is 80 so she is old but she is sharp. She's never been good with reporters but the lady knows her shit!

the one who needs to be prosecuted is fucking Barr for LYING and abusing his power

PBS' Yamiche Alcindor:

Gregory Cheadle, the man President Trump once called “my African American,” is leaving the Republican party & running for Congress as an independent.

He says Trump has a “white superiority complex" and the party is pursing a "pro-white" agenda.

[quote] Like, what did Andrew McCabe do besides try and protect the country against an asset placed by a hostile foreign power?

Like, lie to the Inspector General about his Hillary's emails leaks to newsmen. Hostile foreign power indeed.

Oh, fuck off, R248. As if scores of Trump advisors and admin members haven’t done exactly the same thing.

Are you Hope Hicks or one of her many fuck buddies?

R238, the case against McCabe seems very weak, and his lawyers would have able to show that it was most likely politically motivated, since Trump has repeatedly and publicly pressed for it.

R248 already blocked

I am oh dearing myself in shame R237.

R233 I assume someone in the White House watched Years and Years and got inspired because....well, that appears to be the plan.

Washington Post:

Trump maligned Baltimore. Residents welcomed his visit with protests.

R235 Yes, the media is leading the crowd in blaming everything on Nancy. This is one of several (Russian?) propaganda narratives being pushed and I've seen it here at DL this week. They are going after Nancy hard. And all the usual suspects are falling for it.

-Blame the Dems for things not being accomplished despite the fact they have passed so many bills Moscow Mitch won't even take up.

-The Dems are ignoring the AA community or only pay attention during election years so many should just "walk away".

-The Dems aren't good on the economy despite every fact to the contrary.

- Hispanics don't like illegal immigration. They don't like line jumpers implying the Dems are all in for illegal immigration despite facts to the contrary.

-Dems are the extreme party despite every single extreme thing the GOP does multiple times a day nation wide and in so many states (looking at you NC!).

- Dems are the party of old people despite the GOP electing the oldest president ever and Moscow Mitch's history with the Norte Chico.

- Dems are elitists and the party of elitists despite all the billionaires and swamp creatures who prop up the GOP.

That is just the start. Watch for emerging narratives that are damaging to Dems. A lot of it will appear to come from "liberals" but we all know where it is coming from.

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Nicolle Wallace and her panel we’re going hard after Nancy and the House Democrats today on Deadline: White House. She showed a series of clips from showing five different ways Representstives haves described what is / has been happening regarding impeachment-related activities. On this point alone - the lack of consistent messaging regarding this impeachment rollout - I really do have to agree. Nadler, in particular, equivocates like no other while under questioning from reporters.

Is it really that difficult to come out to the public with a unified message about all of this? Spend five hours in a room and come up with a single phrase or something. You know the GOP always does that.

R255 On the messaging issue, I agree. Dems need to get their shit together. I always watch Nicolle's show. She is all on board with the Dems right now. She said she will vote for whoever the Dem nominee is. I've noticed David Jolly is getting very frustrated with the Dems- too frustrated and it does no good to carp on them while the GOP is in the shape it is in. We are ALL frustrated but we need to aim our anger at only one party- the GOP. We can snipe at the Dems later. They are not actively destroying this nation. They are not compromised like the GOP. They are not the problem.

Oh, absolutely, FCI. I totally agree with you. I was just saying that on this particular point surrounding the messaging, it was well articulated by Nicolle Wallace and the entire panel and I agreed. My outright disgust is always with the GOP, but it would be great if the Democrats would nail this one thing down in a more effective way.

And I love that Nicolle always repeats her “I will vote for the bus of the Democratic nominee” line.

Oh, and carp means crap on and harp on= carp.

R257 Nicolle's show is must see. She has on great guests and asks great questions plus gives you her, often very funny, take. I'm glad you watch.

Trump loses his "African-American".....

R258? Do you really think that's what "carp" (as a verb) means?

Hahahahahaha!

R260 Haha, no. That is a word my friends and I made up.

[quote]Andrew McCabe: prosecutors recommend charges for former FBI official

It should be required to read...

Andrew McCabe: William Barr's prosecutors recommend charges for former FBI official but it's hard to hear because they did it from inside Trump's ass

I love Nicolle's show. Her panel feels like family to me. Pathetic I know but it is a great place to consolidate my outrage. However, I do have to take a break now and again.

I think you might be in the wrong thread r263.

Oy...that was meant for MSNBC

Why would you think R263 was in the wrong thread? We’ve been talking about Nicolle Wallace since yesterday.

Count me in as another that loves Nicolle Wallace. I wish she was on a little later as I am typically leaving work between 4 - 4:30, but I do try to listen to as much as I can during my ride home. If I chose to only listen to 1 hour of tRump news, she would be my preference.

FCI at R261? No, no you didn't.

Please tell me you know a carp is also a fish -- a renowned bottom-feeder, I might add.

Why are people talking about Nicole Wallace in a Treason thread?

Go to the MSNBC thread with that shit.

Did you hear about the death threat that Beto got from a Texas state representative for his take your guns back statement last night?

Somebody's in a LOT of trouble.

Make that a REPUBLICAN Texas state representative.

If that wasn't already obvious.

He says he has Aspergers, so he's not always understood. Dude, you're elected to make laws for ALL Texans - if you're not easily understood and are prone to threatening people violently (he brandished a gun and threatened people at the 2018 Democratic Convention in Texas) then you shouldn't hold public office.

Hell, he's a walking reason for Red Flag laws.

Politico: Ivanka tells donors she got her moral compass from her dad.

Has she attempted to have it repaired r273?

I had a conversation recently where I found I was moving from hate of Trump to pity. I really feel he is mentally unfit for the job- and potentially dangerous.

Besides the nude model shenanigans, the attempts to make $ from his Presidency, the obstruction, the innumerable lies... I think he needs to be fired.

At a mid-August fundraiser in Jackson Hole, Wyo., Ivanka Trump was asked to name the personality traits she inherited most from her parents.

Without much of a pause, Trump told the crowd of roughly 120 high-end donors that her mother gave her an example of how to be a powerful, successful woman.

And her father? He passed onto her his moral compass, she said, according to two event attendees.

^ “As a Trump donor, it is energizing to hear stories about President Trump being personal and engaged on the issues,” said Dan Eberhart, chief executive officer of Canary LLC, a Colorado-based energy company and Trump supporter who has heard colorful stories at other fundraising events. “The media consistently and conspicuously omits any stories of the president being human or personally engaging, so these firsthand accounts really help paint a fuller picture of what’s happening inside the White House.”

R279 He should be in trouble. These gun nuts who are all brave when they hide behind their gun to intimidate and threaten people should be arrested, have their guns taken away, or be in some sort of watch list.

^^You think that's nauseating, how about this from Lou Dobbs last night:

“A lot is happening in Washington and all across this great country of ours, and it’s because we have a president who is a true leader, in my opinion. One I happen to believe will be regarded as one of this country’s greatest presidents, indeed, our greatest.

At every level, on every floor, this White House is energized. There’s sunshine beaming throughout the place, and on almost every face. It’s winner, and winning center, and our White House, our President, is at the top of his game.”

Lou Dobbs lives in an alterna-world (and that honey-colored hair looks horrible on him). None of what he said jives with the descriptions we’ve heard from anonymous White House insiders which all make the place sound like a den of vipers where everyone is a prop or a pawn to a boy-King who loses more marbles everyday.

Reuters:

U.S. appeals court rules against Trump in foreign payments case

The Hill:

Congress set to ignore Trump's wall request in stopgap measure

NBC:

Trump: I look orange, but so do you because of energy-efficient light bulbs

This is all so crazy...I can't believe the level of insanity every day.

What exactly is Trump’s (and his PAB’s) defense against these NOT being Emouluments violations? Do they even have one? Or is it just “MAGA!!! Pwned libtards”?

Washington Post:

Andrew McCabe’s legal team asks Justice Dept. if grand jury rejected charges in his case

Of course the grand jury didn't sustain the charges. Trump, Barr, and the rest of the cabal would be crowing about it at the top of their lungs if they had. Obvious political witch hunt. The real kind, not the kind Trump accuses Mueller and the Democrats of doing. Barr has gotten away with everything every time he's committed crimes going all the way back to Reagan. He needs to go down, hard.

Reuters:

U.S. appeals court says Trump cannot dodge foreign corruption lawsuit

Fat Donnie and round Billy need to go down.

So hard their fat asses cause a tsunami on the Eastern seaboard.

Period.

Bill Barr thinks he can just go on acting like this forever. He is such a danger to our country and the rule of law, it’s just absurd.

I’d like to say a big “FUCK YOU!” to all the msnbc panelists who kept saying that Barr was an “institutionalist” and “Don’t worry, anyone” and other assorted morsels of bullshit leading up to his confirmation. He has been a 100% nightmare from day 1.

Phil Rucker (WaPo) just spotted coming out of MINT Gym in Adams Morgan. Short and sweaty but cute (and on the phone with his adorable lisp).

"Where's my favorite dictator?"

Searching a room for Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi at last month’s G7 summit in France, President Trump called out: “Where’s my favorite dictator?” Why it matters: Sisi really is a dictator, and he really is closely allied with the Trump administration.

He only LIKES dictators.

Daily Beast:

House Dems Leaning Against Calling Stormy Daniels as a Witness

CNN:

DOJ and FBI review draft report on surveillance and Trump campaign investigation

r295...Obviously nobody learned their lesson after the Mueller debacle once Barr got involved...how much is he going to withhold or misrepresent from this report ?

I'm sure that Trump did, indeed, inculcate Ivanka with her current "moral compass." She's as corrupt as he is. And married corrupt.

AP fact check from four days ago. Just to remind.....

Leaders Don’t Mislead

Thank you, Ivanka, for telling us you are also a sociopath.

If she has her fathers moral compass, I wonder how many side pieces she has.

Washington Post:

In all-staff email, NOAA chief praises scientists after agency’s defense of incorrect Trump tweet

Washington Post:

House Democrats pursue Sessions for testimony in impeachment probe of Trump

NBC:

Trump's plan to pay for border wall with Air Force funds risks national security, report says

Trump is absolute the biggest national security threat to the United States right now. Without question.

It’s blatantly obvious that the wall is just to line the pockets of Trump and his corporate cronies.

Is it possible to establish a money trail going forward, BEFORE any money is spent?

There needs to be an audit of every single department and program that the Trump Administration has implemented. I guarantee you there will be BILLIONS missing.

I was wondering what ever happened to the Keebler Elf. He has been very quiet since being thoroughly humiliated by this prez.

These Mueller threads are wonderful. There are so many truly brilliant and intelligence posters. The troll, by and large, stay away because they are obliterated by us. When you take a look at some other political threads, WOW, the trolls are all over them. The things they say and the propaganda they repeat is, not shocking because nothing shocks now, disgusting. Most are classic division trolls who claim to Dems or their purpose is to down the Dems as much as they can. Any non-Mueller political thread is troll city.

I have been on these threads since the beginning, but for I think at least two months, I’ve been on hiatus, also an MSNBC vacation — I am rebuilding my stamina for 2020. I hope you all are too. If you are not yet involved, take *action.* As much as I adore DL, we can’t lie to ourselves that posting replaces boots on the ground activism. Thank you for the immeasurable loyalty to America and standing up for true democracy. Carry on.

I have been on these threads since the beginning, but for I think at least two months, I’ve been on hiatus, also an MSNBC vacation — I am rebuilding my stamina for 2020. I hope you all are too. If you are not yet involved, take *action.* As much as I adore DL, we can’t lie to ourselves that posting replaces boots on the ground activism. Thank you for the immeasurable loyalty to America and standing up for true democracy. Carry on.

I may have an unpaid consulting gig for one of the candidates or for the Dems in general. My friend floated my name as someone they could get different POVs from. They want people they can trust who have worked for Dems in some capacity in the past. My friend will get back to me with details later but asked if I would be interested. She told me to watch what I say "on that datalounge site".

My friend is still pursuing being a TV pundit but she said she may have to join a campaign to up her profile. She worked for the congressman for 26 years, she's in her late 40's, very attractive and an effective, dynamic speaker. She's also way too nice. I told her she should read DL more to fix that. :)

There are fascinating nuggets here. And yes, it does seem to have a bit of troll repellent. They don't like it. Not that we're all brilliant or wise or full of insights, but there is enough of it, that trolls just don't seem to like it much. They like more free floating threads.

And FCI, if you do take a job, even an unpaid job with a candidate, will you feel free to talk at all?

R312 I don't see why not. I don't want to support a particular candidate at this time. I also don't want to post bias info. The only thing I want to do is fully support the Dems in any and every way I can. I have no idea what I would even be doing. She is so busy but said she would call me soon to talk about different options. It is nothing exciting, from what I gathered, just giving my two cents (currently worth $0.0126).

so consulting for a particular candidate wouldn't change your overall opinion at all? Well, maybe not. you certainly are a valuable part of these threads. it would be nice if that continues.

on another subject, impeachment? is it coming down the pike, eventually, hesitantly, however? is it an actual possibility?

R208, R207 is a troll.

I sorta wish FCI were awake. He has something to say, but he just isn't saying it. I wish I knew what he wanted to say.

Sure am, r310.

Kentucky elects a new governor and state house this year and there is a lot of work that needs done!

I dunno, as this thread descends into drunken happy, I want to post this, cause it is kind of fun.

IMO the most important thing we can be doing is getting involved in every effort aimed at ballot security, and ending voter suppression and fraud. We need to get active and vocal, and help shine a spotlight on attempts to fuck with our ability to conduct fair elections. They get away with things when they operate undercover. Exposure and constant attention can be effective deterrents. So can pressuring changes in the way elections are conducted.

I 've said this before, but it's worth repeating: We need to turn off the noise machine. How many more times do we need the media to breathlessly report the latest outrage? First they help normalize him, now they chase after every "shiny object" he uses to distract, to bait & switch. And get ready. But next year they will be slamming the Democrats, using false equivalencies, and bullshit to neutralize the reactions to Trump.

There are certain members of the media I trust. Certain publications I trust. But aside from getting my daily news feeds I'm taking a break from the Media coverage. I'm going to focus on ballot integrity and voter turnout. The absurd coverage of the healthcare "debate" and the hyping by the media absent any real news, is worth ignoring. Suffice to say, all the Democrats care about better healthcare. All the Democrats care about the environment. All the Democrats care about income inequality and tax reform. All the Democrats care about gun safety, and education. I'm not going to get played by the media this time. They're in it for ratings and revenue. Never forget that.

We need to focus on state elections too. We need to get the Republicans out of our legislatures. 2020 is important. After the census, legislative redistricting takes place. Please remember 2010. That's when we gave it all away. In 2006 elected a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress. In 2010, we didn't show up. We gave it away. The days of sitting on the sidelines are over. We have to be engaged. We have to pay attention. And we have to be smart.

Agree with all of that r319.

FCI are you here? Are you a little drunky drunky? You do get to be, if that is the case.

R316 and R321 I did have a little happy hour with friends. Buzzing but not drunk. I am just catching up on different shows I missed this week such as Colbert and Myers.

R314 Thank you, babe! No, I would not start shilling for anyone. This gig, if it happens, is for my opinion. They are looking for many former staffers and such they feel will give honest assessments. If I start really feeling strongly for one particular candidate I would not down any of the other Dems.

As far as impeachment coming down the pike- I, like many of you, feel emotionally and intellectually that is must happen. Then I listen to people in the know and it is far more complicated. It is hard for me to explain this in a post. In short, we are up against propaganda from multiple foreign entities as well as those on the right in this country that is on the level of the best in history. We are up against people of extraordinary means who are damn good at swaying public opinion. Nancy, for as frustrating as she seems, understands this in ways that would astound you all. It is why they want her gone. It is why she has always been the #1 target. If she isn't there yet, I trust she knows information I am not privy to and trust she is making a great decision.

And seriously, most of you are far superior to me on so many topics. I am in awe of the amount of quality analytical abilities so many possess here. I have said many times DLers need to get into politics. The Mueller threads are full of posters who need to be pundits.

lmfao right on cue fucking Barr is trying to block Nadler from getting access to the Grand Jury material. The DOJ cited the Democratic stance in June that they weren't close to impeachment inquiry.

well it's fucking SEPTEMBER you fat evil fuck.

I'd think this attempt to obstruct further has no standing?

Risking our national security is Trump's raison d'etre, r304 and r305.

Risking our national security is Trump's raison d'etre, r304 and r305.

Because Lou Dobbs and the happy, energized White House denizens hate clean water!

Barr is the worst AG ever, and there has been some really bad ones.

Kinda just kidding, but NP is next in line for President if Trump/Pence are both impeached due to their illegal campaign actions. This could be Nancy's greatest fear.

From a fresh DL thread to which I’m not sure how to link.

R329, this is serious. I'm thinking Jared got busted. But once again, another very clear, obvious indication that the Republicans are a corrupt, traitorous bunch of shits. Barr has ties to Alpha Bank. He also has ties to other big Russian $$$ clients through his former law firm. His son or son-in-law is working in the White House office of the Special Counsel, and his daughter is over at the State Department...I think. Not sure. The network of corruption extends through every single branch of our government, and they're using the Trump administration to move people into key positions in every important cabinet position.We're dealing with a nest of vipers.

We need to pay attention. Trump might do anything to stay in office, including declare an emergency and suspend the Constitution. Watch what's going on in Russia. There have been huge demonstrations and hundreds of dissident leaders arrested. The recent election showed gains for Putin's opponents in the Moscow council elections, so now he is rounding up dissidents. Erdogan did it in Turkey. Trump faces prosecution and jail time if he is defeated. He will not give up the WH willingly. And the Republicans will support him. THey have made it clear they will do what ever they feel is necessary to have their way. They ignore the Law. Barr is a monster. So is McConnell.

WSJ:

Trump, Awaiting Egypt's Sisi at Summit, Called Out for 'My Favorite Dictator'

The Hill:

DOJ files brief arguing against House impeachment probe

Trump won't go willingly. Trump, McConnell and the whole cartel of corruption will accommodate cheating again, and Putin will be right there for them. Rupert Murdoch & sons, owners of NewsCorp which includes Fox, will generate the propaganda as thick as ever.

Trump's fanatic followers are cultists and are unable/unwilling to think critically. They want Trump as an Emperor and Junior Mint to follow.

CNN: GOP Trump challengers slam canceled primaries

"Do Republicans really want to be the party with a nominating process that more resembles Russia or China than our American tradition?" the group writes. "Under this President, the meaning of truth has been challenged as never before. ... Do we as Republicans accept all this as inevitable? Are we to leave it to the Democrats to make the case for principles and values that, a few years ago, every Republican would have agreed formed the foundations of our party?"

It's amazing to me that they chose this grifter and his family to follow as a cult. Goddamn couldn't they do better? At least with someone who is competent?

Blame reality television and the dumbing down of America by the GOP.

Exactly R337. When you think of people who get so passionate about voting for the next "American Idol" or whatever, but can't care less about voting in elections, it's just pathetic. My conservative family was more upset about someone being thrown off of "Dancing with the Stars", but couldn't make an effort to get out and vote.

Judging by this morning's tweets, something's got Donald particularly unhinged:

“A Very Stable Genius!” Thank you.

94% Approval Rating in the Republican Party! Tuesday night in the Great State of North Carolina proved that high and very beautiful number correct.

Who the hell is Joy-Ann Reid? Never met her, she knows ZERO about me, has NO talent, and truly doesn’t have the “it” factor needed for success in showbiz. Had a bad reputation, and now works for the Comcast/NBC losers making up phony stories about me. Low Ratings. Fake News!

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

KEEP AMERICA GREAT!

Yeah, the Great State of North Carolina......

Yes, R331, we can't afford to keep saying "Trump would never ____" or "It can't happen here." At first nobody thought he could be elected, yet here we are.

The question is, when will people tear themselves away from their phones and Real Housewives and get out in the streets? As much as we make fun of Russia, at least the opposition there cares enough to protest.

Mark Sanford needs to find someone to bankroll an ad on Fox, an ad where he talks like a reasonable adult in contrast to Trump. Since his campaign is focused on fiscal responsibility, his ad can focus on the trillion dollar national debt for a start.

By now, Trump's team will have read the draft Inspector General's report related to the FISA application. Maybe that's why Trump is becoming unhinged. Or maybe he just got more bad polling numbers.

Its unfathomable that the IG would give his report to ONE OF THE SUBJECTS OF THE FISA WARRANTS. WE WILL get a repeat of Barr misrepresenting the facts to the American people and Congress is allowing it.

yes - all his lapdogs will protect the truth from coming out.

You know, if I were a whistleblower in these times, I think I might turn over my info to the IG and, just to be safe, send a copy to Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, Schumer, Hoyer and Cummings just to make sure it's out there and the lying traitorous slobs couldn't hide or bury it.

I might even turn over a copy to the wapo, BBC or guardian.

R335 That last sentence is snort inducing. The GOP hasn't had those principles in decades much less a few years ago. The GOP loves to live in these delusions I think some of them sadly believe it but is hasn't been the case since Ike.

After these Republicans running against Pres Bone Spurs don't get the chance to actually have a contest due to the GOP turning into Russia, they need to endorse whomever gets the Dem nom and all of them, as well as the likes of Hogan, #walkaway from the GOP. They need to declare the GOP wholly and hopelessly corrupt and the only way they will support the party again is if 99% of the current members quit or are voted out.

All these GOP office holders gnashing their teeth behind closed doors to every reporter in the world saying how horrifying our derrr leader is need to #walkaway from the GOP. They want to get rid of McConnell, we need 4 GOP Senators willing to declare they are independent and will caucus with the Dems. We need some fucking heroes to step up.

[quote]Exactly [R337]. When you think of people who get so passionate about voting for the next "American Idol" or whatever, but can't care less about voting in elections, it's just pathetic.

Honestly, then they should make voting as easy as it is for these other types of contests. It's getting easier with early voting but that still requires people to drive somewhere and find the polling place and wait for whomever else is ahead of them, etc. That might not be a big deal for some people but the lower income people who lack transportation and child care and work on a schedule set randomly each week by someone else it can make a huge difference.

Make national voting online or even by mail with electronic verification of receipt of vote and watch the number of people who vote soar and turn decidedly Democratic. Old white people who make up the Repug's sole constituency at this point have no problem voting now which is why Repug's will fight anything that makes voting easier with everything hindrance they can throw at it.

But Leningrad Lindzey ain't going to press to counter Russia intrusion or push to assure voting integrity.

Reuters:

Trump floats possible defense treaty days ahead of Israeli elections

Politico:

Justice Dept. releases part of Mueller’s conflict-of-interest waiver

The report needed to show the real Yuengling Dark Lager, not the Michelob Ultra Lite Mueller delivered.

JFC, not Mueller again. If you don’t get it by now, then you never will.

CNN Fact Check reminder....

[quote]JFC, not Mueller again. If you don’t get it by now, then you never will.

R353 Doesn't want to hear Mueller mentioned in a "treason" thread. She must want Miss Lindzee pics instead.

[quote]JFC, not Mueller again. If you don’t get it by now, then you never will.

R353 Doesn't want to hear Mueller mentioned in a "treason" thread. She must want Miss Lindzee pics instead.

Bloomberg:

Trump Meets a Contender for National Security Adviser Post

These threads need to morph into the : Mueller/Impeachment Investigations Part 117

R356 wrong. I simply mean that all the evidence we’ve ever needed has been there since day one. And for reasons that are complex, we have not leveraged them. It’s beyond frustrating.

I saw Jerry Nadler interviewed on two cable news shows last night. Both times, he referred to Mitch McConnell as "Moscow Mitch". Just thought I'd mention it. :)

He needs to add that Moscow Mitch lives in Louisgrad now that Kentykky has joined the Russian Federation.

Funny, r361, but it has a vain of truth in it. ww

^vein

Kentucky is the new Crimea

Kentucky, the Carolinas, West Virginia, perhaps some others, have Republicans who would unwaveringly be willing to join the Russian Federation if Trump declared it, and Fox News broadcasted it with their propaganda.

R365 agreed! trump and fox would tell them russia is our new partner in the 21st century in every way and are trying to help our country and their so yes be russian!....

This just came on.....

FFS.

Where's the Putin king chess piece on the Republican side, r367? Unrealistic without it.

R367? Please tell me that's a parody.

I thought it was, r370. Then I looked on Youtube and.....it isn't.

Washington Post:

‘More united’ vs. ‘A house divided’: GOP goes all in on Trump while Democrats clash over ideology and tactics

Newsweek:

Trump Judicial Appointments Reach Milestone, Over 150 Judges Confirmed With One Year Left to Go

We need to assess all this as critical thinkers.

The media needs to put pressure on the GOP Senators who are supposedly "moderate" but who are confirming these extreme ideological judges at a record pace. Nope. All they do is bitch at Nancy and the Dems.

The GOP Senate is in lockstep with McConnell. YOu want to get rid of these judges, start with the corrupted Department of Justice investigations.Expose Barr. Then do some fucking investigative work. We will probably find many of these so called judges cannot stand the scrutiny of public exposure. They will resign. Spotlights, focus, attention. It works. But forget about the Senators. They're all whores and we have to get rid of them next year. Seriously.

[quote]"People who know, know BDO"

Barr's Disgusting Odor????

War! Want war! Then men in uniforms coming home and carrying their ladies to bedroom chambers. Gives me goosebumps thinking I will be one of those special ladies.

Those fucking Republican members of Congress ought to be haunted every where they go. They should not be able to go to a restaurant or a supermarket, or to church or to school events with their kids without a confrontation. At the very least question them on their votes. Question them on their campaign contributions. Express anger that they have not had a town hall or met with constituents. DO SOMETHING. Go to their offices and sit in. Make a fucking headline locally. We need to disrupt their lives and let them know we are watching them. Even a silent protest with a sign that says "we know you voted against "X" or "Shame on You!" But hook up with your local MoveOn, or Indivisible chapter, your local Dems, etc. and DO SOMETHING.

We need to strip away the sense of privilege they believe comes with their status as members of Congress.

CNN:

Putin's fiscal fortress shields Russia from recession, global turbulence and the West

[quote]a freshman named Brett Kavanaugh pulled down his pants and thrust his penis at her, prompting her to swat it away and inadvertently touch it.

So hot!!! Why I am in love with him!!!

---Miss Lyndzee

Obama put Russia into recession, by design, for Crimea. Hillary would have fucked Russia and Putin knew it. The Russians hand picked him and made his rise easy starting in 2013.

R379 - I can assure you that many of us ARE shaming the rethug senators and Congress cunts we've been saddled with.

As a matter of fact, we have shown up so many times at Rob Portman's office, he has alerted the building security that we are a "threat" even though the only thing we have done is demand he hold a town hall. He is nothing but a sniveling coward who knows he is hated so he hides

He hasn't appeared in public unless it's with the talibangelicals. He refuses to meet with anyone who isn't a lobbyist or talibangelical. He actually wanted to have us removed from a PUBLIC building because he was afraid he would have to see us when he left.

These people know they are HATED and they will do anything to stay in power and avoid being held to account.

Portman, along with Moscow Mitch and Rand Paul can all burn in hell.

R379 - I can assure you that many of us ARE shaming the rethug senators and Congress cunts we've been saddled with.

As a matter of fact, we have shown up so many times at Rob Portman's office, he has alerted the building security that we are a "threat" even though the only thing we have done is demand he hold a town hall. He is nothing but a sniveling coward who knows he is hated so he hides

He hasn't appeared in public unless it's with the talibangelicals. He refuses to meet with anyone who isn't a lobbyist or talibangelical. He actually wanted to have us removed from a PUBLIC building because he was afraid he would have to see us when he left.

These people know they are HATED and they will do anything to stay in power and avoid being held to account.

Portman, along with Moscow Mitch and Rand Paul can all burn in hell.

[quote]Both times, he referred to Mitch McConnell as "Moscow Mitch"

How hard is it for the Dems to issue a memo or something on all Dems who talk to the media and have interactions with the public (aka town halls). to use a few simple talking points. This is one of them.

Another would be to always refer to all Trumps, and Trump's admin and appointees, as corrupt, self-dealing or incompetent. Any time they mention a name, use one or more of these qualifiers. Donny Deutsch was right on that one.

Doesn't matter if the MAGAts will foam at the mouth that it's Librul propaganda. The trick is to always use the same consistent negative qualifiers. The Rethugs know this game very well and have been pros at it because it's very easy and simple. But it requires group discipline and aggressive posture which Dems need to fucking learn already.

r386, I see Democratic spokespeople on television at times who refer to their own party as the "Democrat" party.

Clearly we need a lot of work here.

r387, I never hear that from Democrats.

The Democrats never say “the Democrat party.” That is 100% a Republican thing (and they love doing it). Joy Reid will call that shut out on her show when the GOP does it.

R388, where did you hear that being done? I am very skeptical.

Newsweek:

Kellyanne Conway Suggests Trump Is Better Because He Doesn't 'Study' Situations Before Making Decisions

Examiner:

Trump recommends congressional investigations into Obama family book and Netflix deals

NBC:

Pelosi gets squeezed on impeachment

Kellyanne Conway should not be able to get through a day out in public without people literally throwing bags of hot shit and diarrhea at her. I’m so disgusted by this shameless cooze.

Every single time the media comes for Pelosi we need to go after them on McConnell. Period. They'd love to force a vote in the House and see her fail to get the numbers. They want a vote to fail in the House. It would guarantee Trump's reelection. Right now all Trump has are the diehards. But if it looks like he is being needlessly persecuted (like Jesus!) then he will gain among the Ambivalents. (I don't call them independents anymore.)

ABC News' Katherine Faulders today:

This is the first time (House Judiciary Committee Chair Jerrold) Nadler has gone this far. In an interview with WNYC he said "Frankly, we are concentrating our resources on whether or not to impeach the president. Personally, I think the president ought to be impeached."

Does anyone with a grain of sense believe anything that hose bag Kelly Anne Cadaver says anymore? She is nothing but a ho without a row to hoe!

"Kellyanne Conway Suggests Trump Is Better Because He Doesn't 'Study' Situations Before Making Decisions"

Pandering to his ignorant base. Lord knows, THEY have never studied a damn thing!

Studying is for "Democrat" girly-men! FACTS ARE FAKE NEWS!

Kellyanne is a propagandist who persistently lacks veracity and violates the Hatch Act. She receiving a hefty salary with benefits from the federal government is what is most disturbing.

The think I don't get about Kellyanne: If the press is going to cover her, as well as her husband George Conway's tweets, why aren't they exploiting that marriage relationship? There were a couple minor stories at first, but it gets very little coverage. It's not that I'm all that interested, it's just that when a news outlet makes a decision to do a story on one, they should automatically bring up the other. Either the two are in cohoots in some way so they can stay relevant if/when one of the sides wins out, or they are just fucking bonkers opportunists.

All these Trump deputies appealing to the cult are perpetuated by Rupert Murdoch's Fox News/NewsCorp. Conservatism is not the drive, it is manipulation of an angry, resentful, and gullible audience for ratings and powerful special interests, and facilitating control by a party apparatus.

CNN:

Joe Walsh says Republican Party is a 'cult' and will go straight to the voters after canceled primaries

CNN:

Jerry Nadler: 'I think the President ought to be impeached' but public has to be on board

trump, mcconnell, and the rest of the odious repukes are fucking up this country bad.

A member of the legislative branch, and the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee at that, using a pic with a now Supreme Court Justice for over a year, is inappropriate for the Senator's Twitter page heading.

Judicial and political legislative activity are not suppose to be meshed. Not ethical for either.

NYC has just subpoenaed 8 years of Trump taxes!!!

Let's GOOOOOO!

CNN Legal Analyst Elie Honing, re: NYC's subpoena of Trump's taxes:

It's coming into focus: seems the Manhattan DA is trying to lock down a case for falsifying business records -- usually a misdemeanor but, if tied to another crime (here, tax fraud), it becomes a felony.

NYT:

8 Years of Trump Tax Returns Are Subpoenaed by Manhattan D.A.

AP:

Trump says it's 'looking like' Iran is to blame

Bloomberg:

Trump’s Suggestion of Iran Strike Raises Bipartisan Alarm

“It’s looking like it’s Iran” = It’s not Iran.

r410, = The Saudis told us.

Yeah, don't believe a word they say.

I thought the Murdoch kids were not as crazy conservative as Ailes and even daddy. That channel has gotten even worse after Ailes left.

Politico:

Never-Trump ties could damage would-be Bolton successor

In 2016 Pompeo was a "Never Trumper."

CBS:

Warren uses Trump family to illustrate need for anti-corruption plan

Politico:

Trump’s California fundraisers are drenched in cash — and secrecy

CNN:

White House tells Lewandowski not to answer questions and asserts immunity for Dearborn and Porter

R417, that's just straight-up witness-tampering. The WH has no grounds for directing Lewandowski not to answer questions.

Yahoo:

Exclusive: Russia carried out a 'stunning' breach of FBI communications system, escalating the spy game on U.S. soil

R419 The breech was the actual president. He is just giving them everything they want anyway.

Still not enough for impeachment. Sorry!

r421, do you not understand how impeachment works? Do you know the number of Republican Senators who would have to vote to impeach Trump? Do you comprehend that impeachment is not analogous with removal from office?

R421, are you just bad at math? I mean, it's literally counting. This is the plan. Continuing to purposefully not understand that there's a planned timeline just makes you look stupid.

R422, senators do NOT for on impeachment. Only the House.

Yeah how will that exactly work out if Lewandowski does not answer questions?

I guess Trump will issue a pardon if it gets that far

Lewandowski: I refuse!

Nadler: Take him into custody. Next.

How would Dump be able to pardon lewandowski. He hasn’t committed a crime. He’s ignoring a subpoena.

That's what needs to happen, r426.

But it won't.

Sadly

Mayor Daley Sr., Tip O'Neill, and LBJ are spinning over these current gutless Democrats.

Hold the damn hearings. Maybe there's a loose-lipped Alexander Butterfield or a penitent John Dean lurking somewhere to reveal shenanigans, or a psycho G. Gordon Liddy to show the evil beneath the mask.

People won't support impeachment without televised testimonies.

Putting the foot down, Lindsey warns Democratic Presidential candidates not to mess with Kavanaugh.

Lindsey may have another hissy fit if Elizabeth, Kamala, Pete, and Beto don't listen.

I'd love to see Miss Lindz stroke out defending her one true love Mr.Brett.

[quote]senators do NOT for on impeachment.

You're telling me!

BY NOW, wouldn't trump and his circle have corrected and/or discarded any wrong doing in his taxes? i don't know if they were filed electronically or some other method, can NO ONE trump and his people doctor them?....

that is what needs to be done, literally put corey and kellyanne and others in custody for refusing a subpoena wouldn't that happen to all of us?!....

we even have A ATTORNEY GENERAL WHOSE BEEN HELD IN CONTEMPT BY CONGRESS!..

SO MUCH FOR TRANSPARENCY IN THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY! everyone is "shifty", everyone ignores subpoena's, etc.

(Sigh) The House of Representatives conducts an investigation, holds hearings, gathers evidence, etc. similar to a grand jury. Then it weighs all that evidence, and writes "Articles of Impeachment" Which is essentially charges against the POTUS.

Once those Articles of Impeachment are voted on in committee by a majority of committee members, they are brought before the House of Representatives. If the vote passes, the POTUS is charged. They need 218 votes for this. They do not have 218 votes at this time.

Then the Articles of Impeachment are delivered to the Senate which holds a trial presided over by the Chief Justice,. If the Senate convicts the POTUS of crimes, he is removed. He can then face federal charges or state charges, etc. The House needs 218 votes to Impeach. At this time they only have about 140. Pelosi is old school. She counts votes. She does not force people who are afraid of losing their seats to vote against what they beIieve are their interests.

If the House vote fails to impeach him, Trump can run around crowing about how he has been cleared, and this is politically motivated smears, etc. and the Republicans will have a huge club to pound the Democrats with in 2020. Now, please try to keep up.

r422, Do YOU understand how impeachment works? Impeachment happens in the House and only the House. The trial, and whether the president is convicted and removed takes place in the Senate and only the Senate.

You need 218 votes in the House to impeach. You need two thirds of the Senate (67 votes) to convict in the Senate.

If 218 House members vote to impeach the president then he/she has been IMPEACHED. Impeachment is over at that point.

Now do YOU understand?

NYT:

Corey Lewandowski’s Testimony Before Congress: What to Expect

NBC:

Trump in New Mexico: 'Who do you love more — the country, or Hispanics?'

Oh my god....@ r437

I hate this timeline.

R437, I'm glad that most media outlets didn't cover Trump's rally in it's entirety and just reported on his outrageous, racist comments instead.

I find myself wishing that my luckier self is living in an alternative universe in which the bloated persimmon did not win the presidency and I can, with a modicum of honesty, declare myself proud to be an American.

R440, funny, I often think about how lucky my alternate universe self is to not have to live under this regime.

R433, Trump’s tax returns are in the hands of several third parties—accounting firms, Deutsche Bank—in addition to being held by the IRS. There are too many copies out there for anyone to risk altering them; that’s why he’s fighting their production. Also, I assume during the years he’s been married he’s filed jointly, so I guess his wives are on the hook if the returns were fraudulent.

I still don't understand what we expect to learn from his tax returns. Wouldn't all of his shading dealings be in the Trump Organization's returns and not his personal returns?

Absolutely r443. The only thing we will ever learn from his tax returns is the fact that he rarely, if ever, has paid any taxes.

Not necessarily. He has falsified loan applications and tax returns to either inflate or deflate the value of certain properties or of his income off of certain ventures. So the opportunities for fraud are very great. He will eventually get busted for lying. And of course the money laundering. Because of the inflated price for which he bought or sold property to Russian oligarchs etc. He may believe he has insulated himself through various shell companies, but good forensic accounting will expose him and really they only need one such instance to establish a pattern. Because with one instance it is like pulling the proverbial thread that unravels everything else. And honestly someone ought to write a book investigating the history of Deustche Bank and that other "laundry" the Bank of Cyprus, where Wilbur Ross played such a key role. Ross is slime and his daughter married a Russian Oligarch. Follow the money is the very best advice Deep throat ever gave to anyone.

[quote]He has falsified loan applications and tax returns to either inflate or deflate the value of certain properties or of his income off of certain ventures.

And how will that be revealed in his personal tax returns? The loans will not be in his name. The investments will be in holding companies. There is no balance sheet on an individual tax return.

I think that Trump is totally fine with our obsession with his tax returns. The idea that they will reveal much about his financial situation is our white whale.

R446, I think what we’ve learned about his father’s tax returns, and the tax information that we do have about Trump, is that real estate owners often prefer to file consolidated returns so that they can balance phony “business losses” and other deductions against their personal income. In other words, Trump’s tax returns might be more revealing than most.

Reuters:

Ex-campaign chief defends Trump, blasts Democrats at impeachment hearing

Washington Post:

Hillary Clinton accuses Trump, McConnell of ‘abdicating their responsibility’ on election security

SIMPLY, IF NOTHING IS "THERE" THERE BUT YET TRUMP WILL DO ANYTHING EVEN SUE, TAKE IT TO THE SUPREME COURT if necessary to release his taxes?! it's the ULTIMATE " THOU DOTH PROTESTS TOO MUCH"!...

on a sidenote, i see weasel and he is THEE epitome of a weasel from the way he looks, to his voice, lewadowski is testifying right now. i wish they would ask him "sir, what kind of person gets fired by their boss (trump) and then does anything and everything to support that boss, and defend him with their last breath?" who does this and why?"

A mob employee?

I just re-read this, still with disbelief.

In his pitch, the president painted a dire picture of what Democrats' policies would lead to, arguing that with the Green New Deal, "the Democrats want to completely annihilate New Mexico's economy."

"The Democrats want us to be subservient to foreign producers. They want us to be at the mercy of rogue regimes. That is not happening anymore," Trump told the packed crowd at Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, New Mexico.

The president also defended Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh amid renewed allegations of sexual misconduct, slamming the media for its coverage and targeting Democrats for trying to "intimidate Americans into submission."

"They will do whatever they can to demean you, to libel you. They try to blacklist, coerce, cancel or destroy anyone who gets in their way," the president said. "Look at what they are doing today to Justice Kavanaugh. Look at what they are doing."

Trump blasted The New York Times for its coverage of the story, reiterating his tweet from earlier in the day where he called for everyone involved in the paper's Kavanaugh coverage to resign.

"I do not think they will do it, but they should, for the good of the nation," Trump said. "Did you see what Democrats -- they are calling for his resignation. They are calling for his impeachment."

Trump also touted his record with Hispanic Americans, some waving signs reading "Latinos for Trump," despite relentless calls to limit immigration at the southern border.

"We are working night and day to deliver a future of limitless opportunities for a nation and Hispanic American citizens, including millions and millions of extraordinary Mexican Americans, who enrich our society, strengthen our country, serve in our military and contribute immensely to our shared American family," Trump said.

In an awkward moment, the president also shouted out CNN contributor Steve Cortes, saying: "He happens to be Hispanic, but I have never quite figured it out because he looks more like a WASP (white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant) than I do."

Trump went on to ask Cortes if he loved "the country or the Hispanics" more. "He says, 'the country,'" the president said.

What a Hitlerian speech by Dear Leader.

Oh my fucking god

He's really sweating now. That means we're going to finally see those taxes.

AP:

Trump gives California grief — but also likes its money

This is at the top of the MSN homepage...

BREAKING NEWS: Exit polls show Israeli PM Netanyahu short of securing parliamentary majority, political future in doubt. Details to come.

Lewandowski should be locked up for refusing to cooperate. Make an example of him! FFS!

NYT:

Trump Will End California’s Authority to Set Stricter Auto Emissions Rules

[quote]Lewandowski should be locked up for refusing to cooperate. Make an example of him! FFS!

Rick Wilson:

How much insult and contempt to do you need? How much obstruction and evasion is enough?

I don't care about the *legality* of "Sargent at arms, take that man into custody."

By letting him escape the consequences of contempt, the House Democrats send the clear signal that ANYONE from the WH can slap them, spit on the floor and say, "Fuck you."

so what can be done?

Barr would surely never prosecute Lewandowski if the House refers him for not answering questions

The fucking moderate Democrats should really see this as reason to impeach Trump. The WH is claiming exec privilege when there is NONE

Reuters:

Trump lists Waddell, Kellogg, O'Brien among possible Bolton successors

In the end he'll give the job to the woman who catered Jared's bar mitzvah or something.

Lewandowski is such a smug fuck. Wasn’t he fucking Hope Hicks at some point?

Lewandowski is also running for Senate seat from New Hampshire so this was a performance

hopefully the NH public won't like this but who knows. That state can go either way it seems

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These smug Republican assholes who cover for Trump better hope that the Democrats don't win Senate seats and the Presidency. Right now, they're playing games and patting each other on the back, but once the Democrats are in charge, they're all in serious trouble. It's a battle between good and evil, but I truly believe that good will conquer.

I think the general, uninformed public suffers from Trump fatigue. They hear about his outrageous behavior every day. They hear about his corruption, his deal making, his lies, etc.etc. every day. They have become inured to it. They aren't interested in impeachment hearings. And when a smug fucker like LEwandowski tells Congress to fuck off, the public kind of half-assed agrees with him. They are over it. IMO we need video. We need audio or something. Something. I want Michael Cohen's tapes to leak. because watching Nadler and the others and all the histrionics for the next few months isn't going to work. And in case you haven't noticed the media is suddenly adopting their "both sides" bullshit and starting to make this look like partisan bickering when it isn't.

R446 - fat Donnie's returns will show plenty of damning info.

First of all, every one of those shell companies is a "pass through" entity. They are all money laundering enterprises of one sort or another. And one of those "pass through" entities passes through to him personally.

Getting his personal tax returns will show many things. First is tax evasion. Second is falsifying loan applications (as Cohen pointed out). Third is money laundering.

You can probably find many more biggest of cons as well. His personal tax forms are only one piece of the puzzle.

According to Joyce Vance on today’s Nicolle show, the contempt case against Don McGahn will be decided by Thanksgiving, and will likely compel him to come back and testify. And that decision will automatically apply to Lewandowski and any others who’ve tried to clam up.

[quote] The only thing we will ever learn from his tax returns is the fact that he rarely, if ever, has paid any taxes.

Oh is that what we shall see ?

Thanksgiving? WTF. This is a matter of national urgency and they need the courts to act a lot faster than that. We ought to have an answer by the first week in October at the latest. The McGahn shit has been sitting there for weeks.

well the Democrats waited too long. They should have started a lot of this a few months ago during the summer.

Anyway, their counsel Barry Berke did a great job questioning Lewandowski. They really should have had him ask all the questions today. Some of the House members just aren't skilled enough to corner a piece of shit like Lewandowski.

L.A. Times:

Trump says cities are 'destroying themselves' with homelessness as he arrives in California

The Hill:

Nadler considering holding Lewandowski in contempt

CONSIDERING?

just fucking do it!

If Barr doesn't act on it then so be it

stop fucking around with these people. Don't play nice

from now on only have their Counsel grill these obstructive pieces of shit

the fine them and hold them in contempt when they don't cooperate

A new report from the president’s Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) said “policing may be an important tool to help move people off the street and into shelter or housing where they can get the services they need”

Uh huh

The president further mentioned the creation of an “individual taskforce”, but did not provide details, saying: “We’ll be doing something about it.”

Uh huh

This is boundary-testing stuff. Most of these homeless people are U.S. citizens, but they are “undesirables.” Surely everyone is ok with rounding them up, right?

Btw, I now wonder if all of those threads on DL about the horrors of homelessness in San Francisco were actually a form of test-marketing.

NYT:

Acting Intelligence Chief Refuses to Testify, Prompting Standoff With Congress

[quote]Trump says cities are 'destroying themselves' with homelessness as he arrives in California

This will be a major part of his 2020 campaign -- "look at what socialist Democrats have done to the cities they've governed for decades, that's what they will do to the country if you elect them." We'll see commercial after commercial with footage of L.A. homeless encampments and homeless people shooting up drugs and defecating on the streets of S.F.

r472, the Democrats waited too long because you know who (the Speaker of the House) wouldn't let them start this until beginning this summer.

It still isn't an actual impeachment inquiry. Not really.

One thing is for sure. The Media is spinning the shit out of today's hearing saying Corey LEwandowski made them look bad? WTF. First of all, LEwandowski's smug arrogant behavior made hi look bad. Like he is above it all. Rules don't matter. None of it has standing or legitimacy in his eyes. Now here's the thing. The House Dems already know no one is going to cooperate. They know this. So they need a fucking strategy to deal with that. If it includes jail time so be it. But when you have an asshole llike Lewandowski, then you need to go hard and make him look stupid. It's not t hat difficult. Where the hell is the strategy? I'm pissed at the whole situation.

R481, the Democrat's strategy is to follow the law. That's what they are doing. If the poster above is right about the McGahn timeline, then that means the under oath, court-ordered testimony will begin in January when Congress reconvenes. That means Trump trying to run while the investigation kicks into full gear all Spring. He'll be impeached during the summer and on trial in the Senate in the Fall leading right into election night.

Between wanting to go to war with Iran and showing disdain that Kavanaugh is under scrutiny again, Lindsey is in a tizzy.

R482 do you really think they'll impeach as late as the summer?

we'll start hearing chants of "oh it's only a few months until the election at this point we should let it all play out".

The moderate Democrats who refuse to call for impeachment have really held this up. How can they expect the public to get behind it if they won't themselves?

and each week we see more and more behavior that is just unacceptable. From Trump's off-the-cuff shit at rallies and on the WH lawn with the press to the behind-the-scenes corruption and crimes. It's insane how the moderate wing of Democrats don't think the public will come along.

I just hope with the next hearing that House Democrats fucking use their Counsel for the majority of the time. We don't need to see Democrats "have moments". It's not about them-it should be about making these witnesses express the corruption and illegal behavior of Trump. The Counsel today Berke did a great job but too much of the day was spent with Lewandowski subverting order

The man who sold America

I believe the slow leak of Democrats in support of impeachment is completely planned. I think the Senate has a certain number of days after a president is impeached to begin the trial. McConnell will fuck with it as much as he can but he's not running the trial, John Roberts is and, honestly, I don't think he'll put up with any bullshit from McConnell at such an historic moment. He cares about legacy.

I almost wonder if it would be better for Democrats to impeach him late enough that the trial runs past the election. I think an acquittal will hurt us and he's almost guaranteed an acquittal with these fucking Repugs.

Trump Hollywood

The preview trailer for next year's presidential election has just dropped! Netanyahu appears to have lost, but is refusing to concede, and is blaming the media for the results. Before the voting started, he asserted that the election was going to be "stolen."

They are definitely planning something with the homeless people. God knows what’s they’re going to do to them. If I were homeless I’d be scared right now.

And yes, that’s what all these Portland and SFO and Skid Row threads have been on here. They’re softening the soil.

I wish the media would focus on whatever their real plans are instead of falling for all their tricks.

What is the real tea?

Maybe they will use their bodies for experiments or just give huge contracts to their pals for “housing” them in camps.

Let’s not forget there are kids at the border right now who have been ripped away from their parents just for sport. If it weren’t for the courts in this country we’d be screwed. And they are busy chipping away at that.

well all this stuff has been a feature on Fox "News" for at least a year. Now Trump is going down that route. This is another case of him being directly influenced by that bullshit network.

They're trying to portray big liberal cities as hell holes in comparison to the glorious lush rural areas lived in by "real Americans". They're trying to show that Democratic policies don't work.

only the Fox audience was seeing this stuff and now Trump is bringing it into the mainstream

We'd like to thank you Herbert Hoo-ver.....

This spat between Missy & Spurs per Iran policy looks staged. The ultra-hawk vs the well-tempered.

The Apprentice: Homeless version

[quote]If I were homeless I’d be scared right now.

If I were homeless I'd be scared every fucking minute of every fucking day.

[quote]I almost wonder if it would be better for Democrats to impeach him late enough that the trial runs past the election.

Judging by yesterday's performance, the Democrats are not capable of conducting an effective impeachment hearing. They let a stupid grifter run roughshod over them. Yes, Berke did well with questioning at the end ... but they should have led with Berke, then the news all day would have been how poorly Lewandowski came off rather than how poorly the Democrats did. Optics, people, optics!

Oh, and by the way, Lewandowski just admitted that he lies to the media (and the American people) ... how long do you think it will be before said media gains a spine and stops booking him? (I'm looking at you, CNN.)

He's on CNN right now r497.

[quote]He's on CNN right now

Well, there you go -- CNN was instrumental in getting Trump elected (and so was MSNBC). Now they'll do the same for this slimy little weasel.

What pisses me off is the McGahn timeline of refusing to testify in May, and not getting subpoenaed until August. WTF?

Well if your running private contractor detention camps and private prisons, then maybe you criminalize the homeless and put them in your private prisons? Cheap labor unless they're too sick to work. They they just disappear because they're homeless and no one cares. Like Nazi Germany.

R501.. another way for "private companies" to make money! prisons? yep! wars? yep! privatizing health care and social security? yep! homeless people? what a great idea!

I mean, the GOP has been trying to criminalize poverty since Reagan, so this is just the first time they're doing it openly.

Matt

Louie, take your meds!

AP:

Trump names hostage negotiator as national security adviser

NYT:

White House Fires Homeland Security Dept.’s General Counsel

The Hill: Pelosi: Democrats will 'certainly' beat Trump in 2020

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is voicing optimism about Democrats' chances heading into the 2020 elections, predicting Tuesday that the party will keep the House, retake the presidency and "hopefully" flip the Senate.

Speaking with CNBC's Jim Cramer, Pelosi said that if her forecasts come to fruition, Democrats would have majorities in 2021 to shore up the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which President Trump and GOP leaders have fought for years to dismantle.

"When we win - I anticipate that we will win the House and hopefully win the Senate and certainly win the White House - but in the course of all of that, let's use our energy to have health care for all Americans," Pelosi said in the interview that aired Tuesday evening.

The comments came on the same day Rep. Paul Cook, a four-term California Republican, announced that he'll retire at the end of next year, making him at least the 17th GOP lawmaker to rule out a return to Congress in 2021.

The growing list of GOP retirements and resignations has complicated the Republicans' bid to retake the lower chamber, which they lost in last year's midterms, and suggests that even some GOP lawmakers consider the gavel out of reach.

Pelosi's other predictions are much less certain. While Senate Republicans are defending 23 seats in 2020 - versus just 12 for Democrats - very few of those GOP lawmakers are considered vulnerable, creating an uphill climb for Democrats hoping to flip the upper chamber.

NBC:

Trump axes California's right to set own fuel emissions standards

CNN:

Lewandowski says he has no reason to be held in contempt of Congress

Sure, Ja...I mean Corey.

[quote]Trump names hostage negotiator as national security adviser

Do you really think he can negotiate our release from this dictator?

L.A. Times: Newsom, Becerra lash out at Trump plan on California emissions standards

Ahead of Wednesday's press conference, Newsom responded to the president's claims on Twitter, calling them "simply inaccurate."

"Your standards will cost consumers $400 billion," Newsom said in a tweet. "Result in 320 billion more gallons of oil burned and spewed into our air. And hurt car companies' ability to compete in a global market.It's bad for our air. Bad for our health. Bad for our economy."

The Trump administration's action threatens to derail California's effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions over the next decade to a level

40%

below those recorded in 1990 — the primary driver behind that effort is

the state's goal to help ensure

more than 1 million zero-emission vehicles and plug-in hybrids are on the road by 2025.

"Our message to those who claim to support states' rights: Don't trample on ours," Becerra said Wednesday.

Why is Trump so obsessed with California right now? And I agree with others who view this homeless people roundup with great suspicion. Are they setting up Erstwhile Work Camps to squeeze every last bit of productivity they can from these people before showing them to the oven door?

It really just continues the entire Trump Administration’s playbook of attacking the most vulnerable people among us. Also, how could the government - Constitutionally - round up free, American citizens and place them in incarceration just for the simple “crime” of not having a home or employment? Is that really where they’d like to go? What about homeless war veterans? Can you even imagine?

USA Today:

Trump says he will hit Iran with new sanctions over Saudi oil attack

[quote]Why is Trump so obsessed with California right now?

Probably because of Nancy and Adam and Ted.... and because of the whole needing to submit taxes to get on the ballot. Not that any of it matters... he's just petty.

Newsweek:

American Flag Set on Fire During Trump's California Fundraising Event, Fight Erupts Between Supporters and Protesters

Washington Post:

Rep. Omar says Trump ‘put my life at risk’ after he retweeted a false claim that she ‘partied’ on 9/11 anniversary

R514, because most of CA hates him and he knows it. We know he's a lying, criminal, asshole who's willing to sell out the environment for personal gain and we know he's scum. He also knows he's hateful scum and he enjoys hurting people. He's a sick fuck propped up by sick fucks and the sooner he's gone the better. It's horrible it's taking so long.

Reuters:

Trump rips latest rate cut, saying Fed lacks guts and vision

LSpurs in about 3 years shopping at the prison commissary?

'Mother' where you at?

CityLab:

L.A. wanted to use this building as a shelter, and now Trump does too

A shelter or a locked “detention facility”? I really don’t like where this is all going.

Lindsey wants to have an innocent scapegoat to deflect from Trump?

Somebody needs to take her down a few notches.

The Steele Dossier was originally commissioned by a Republican. Why do these cunts fail to ever mention that? They all act like Hillary personally Venmo’d Christopher Steele.

An Ohio lawmaker seeks to subpoena Congressman Jim Jordan and grill him about the Ohio State sexual abuse scandal.

Part of the homeless problem in CA started years ago when Reagan was governor. He closed the state hospitals and dumped fragile mentally people out in the streets and into halfway houses. Within weeks a recently ejected mentally ill person beat a neighborhood woman to death with a roller skate (in San Francisco)

The repukes keep yammering about "mental health" when it come to gun control but they aren't serious. Many homeless people are also mentally ill and have serious substance abuse problems. Our local jail are a rotating door for mentally ill homeless. No one on the right has any serious plans for addressing the mentally ill.

[quote]The repukes keep yammering about "mental health"

Yes, but they neither want to cure them or lock them up.

They want them dead.

Politico:

Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors

Washington Post:

How a hard-charging lawyer helped fuel a civil war inside the NRA

Trump gets annoyed with his sycophantic, bossy bottom.

Anti-tax conservative, Grover Norquist, and Freedomworks Adam Brandon, pressure Moscow Mitch to fund the election security bills.

So does it appear Moscow Mitch and Bone Spurs are depending again on cheating for reelection?

So is Netanyahoo out of power or what?

Is this thread subscriber only?

Yes, I believe it is. Somebody on The View thread requested a new one be started.

Nope not yet

Never mind.

Looks like WAPO got the goods on the whistle blower in the Intelligence Office. Sounds like Trumpy made Vlad a promise about some thing. What a surprise! This will become public sooner than later now.

What did Bone Spurs get in return from Vlad? Money laundered into DJT's off-shore accounts, plus he was sent two fresh pee pee girls?

I don't think Trump needs inducements anymore, R541; he just cowers in front of Putin out of instinct.

Okay, surely Trump promising a foreign leader something has to do it, right? This has to be what brings him down? Especially if it's to profit him or benefit him personally. People need to be told the full story.

And educated guesses about whom the whistleblower was is trained on Dan Coats. Apparently Coats resigned 10 weeks before this was filed.

Sue Gordon, who was fired at about the time the complaint was filed, has also been put forward as the whistleblower.

A voting-rights group has filed a lawsuit against Moscow Mitch and Chuck Grassley for blocking Merrick Garland's Supreme Court nomination.

That's interesting, r545.

What took them so long, I wonder?

It’s a bad idea to fire a whistleblower.

So who will be on the WH lawn this morning, violating the Hatch Act again, spinning & lying for Trump?

Ewww, stinky finger

[quote]Before a room full of Trump allies at a Gatestone Institute luncheon, including billionaire conservative-media baroness Rebekah Mercer, defense superlawyer Alan Dershowitz, and Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy, Bolton repeatedly dunked on the White House’s foreign policy misadventures during his tenure, saying that he’d tried to fight all their poor decisions but was thwarted by a certain someone.

Before Rebekah Mercer, Alan Dershowitz, and Chris Ruddy??????

Reuters: Trump says EPA to issue notice to San Francisco on homeless

Trump said the issue was an environmental one because "tremendous pollution," including syringes used by homeless addicts to inject drugs, was flowing into the Pacific Ocean from Bay Area cities.

Earlier in the day, U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson rejected requests from California for more money to fight homelessness, saying the Trump administration was already doing its part.

The federal whistleblower law’s explicit preclusion of judicial review of actions by the DNI and the IG means that impeachment is the exclusive remedy for defiance of the law’s obligations. @SpeakerPelosi, are you listening?

USA Today:

Mike Pence targeted by GOP group over Trump alleged business conflicts

Jared and Ivanka want to drop Mik Pence from the 2020 GOP ticket. They prefer Nikki Haley.

Trump complains Pence does not defend him enough and isn't ae loyal as Trump wants it to be.

Trump may want a black VP candidate. Who may that be? Ben Carson? Diamond? Silk?

L.A. Times:

Trump threatens to punish San Francisco over filth, needles and pollution

CNBC:

Trump sues Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. and accounting firm Mazars over attempt to get tax returns

Get your ticket! Starting as low as $90 for general admission and $200 for VIP admission.

It's the Diamond & Silk Chit Chat Tour coming to a city near you!!!

^They wear blue for "flip it red, keep it red"?

The Hill:

Trump says he carries cash to give tips after photo shows him with $20 bill in back pocket

CNN:

Lewandowski's messy hearing leaves some Dems questioning their tactics

The Hill:

Pelosi: Lewandowski should have been held in contempt 'right then and there'

[quote]Pelosi: Lewandowski should have been held in contempt 'right then and there'...

and so she will .....????

She also has other things on her plate, r562.....

AP: Nancy Pelosi unveils an ambitious plan to lower drug prices

The plan is Pelosi's marker in what's shaping up as a high-stakes negotiation to determine if a drug pricing compromise can pass Congress this year or if Democrats and Republicans will take their differences into the 2020 elections.

The sweeping legislation leans left politically and appears to be tailor-made for Pelosi's Democratic majority in the House. But in a signal that Pelosi wants a deal, it also incorporates ideas from the Trump administration and from Republican and Democratic senators.

A group of House Republicans led by Rep. Greg Walden, R-Ore., quickly accused Pelosi of putting "politics over progress," calling her plan "a socialist proposal to appease her most extreme members."

Nonetheless, Americans across party lines say lowering prescription drug costs should be a top priority for Congress this year. Overall, 70 percent deemed that a top priority in a poll earlier this month from the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation

Hey r563: I love Nancy Pelosi and think she is doing a terrific job.

BUT - If you're not going to do anything, don't say anything.

That particular optic is turning off a LOT of people.

I think her saying that is doing something, r564. By the way, who is this LOT of people?

So why didn't Pelosi text Nadler/staff demanding he take a vote for contempt once Lewendowski started his antics?

You'd have to ask her. I believe if she thought that was the best time to do it, she would have.

Nadler is more bark than bite. He needs to grow a pair or else look like Trump when he tosses out another empty "locked and loaded" threat.

Nadler looks like a Weeble Wobble. I’m so sick of his equivocating, empty threats, speechifying (instead of swift action when warranted), and his baggy, poorly-tailored suits.

AP:

Key Senate panel approves $250 million for election security

Oh so Mitch is going to go along with it now? This only tells me they're up to some other shit where they'll cheat even more blatantly and point to "election security," as evidence that everything was on the up and up.

That's what I was thinking, r571.

Politico:

Tillerson: Netanyahu, Israelis 'played' Trump

R559

Allegedly, DJT never paid or tipped the pee pee girls.

That $20 is probably for an aide to run and buy him a Big Mac, fries, and nuggets once he arrives at his destination.

Stable genius!

Did we talk about this at all?

Pennsylvania state senator resigns amid child pornography investigation, lawmakers say

No shit, r573.

The entire goddamned globe is playing that fat fuck like a fiddle and he's too bloated by his own ego to care or even notice.

Epic fail for an epic fool.

He got played?

Shocked.

He normally shows such great judgement.

Trump would never have happened if not for Putin. Both are evil things.

More on Elaine Chao and no accountability.

But she does smile while she spends your $$$$s.

The Hill:

Trump officially withdraws nominee to lead FEMA

R580 they all smile like that because there are no consequences... ever.

Roll Call:

Federal agency ordered to investigate Homeland Security nominee

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NYT:

Trump Lawyers Argue He Cannot Be Criminally Investigated

AP:

Trump gets victory in bid to block California tax return law

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Who was the judge? One of his appointees?

Do Turtle and Chao have the same eyes?

Thanks for the new thread, OP.

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