Eyes Wide Shut is terrifying: agree or disagree?

It should be reevaluated in light of the shit that has been properly exposed as of late.

“I now feel that the movie is practically a documentary.”

You completely misunderstood the film. That’s a shame since it’s a really good movie with a lot to say about interpersonal relationships.

If you care, I suggest that you read some analyses of the film, many of which are available online.

More like "enticing", really.

It's worth noting that the only act of underage human trafficking in the film is the Russian costume store owner trying to pimp out his daughter, not the masked elite creepers.

Kidman is exquisite in this film. Unfortunately, she disappears not even halfway through, and we're stuck with Tom Cruise trying to act (again).

It's one of those films I have no desire to see twice. It's just kind of boring and soulless.

(I'm not a big Kubrick fan, in general.)

Everything Kubrick made was piled high and deep with layers of meaning. This film is as much a study of society as it is of one intimate relationship. If you think it’s just about a love affair, then your eyes aren’t open.

R6, Kubrick isn’t THAT great. A lot of his films are pretty embalmed.

This was a great film.

It's okay. It's beautifully filmed, and Kidman is terrific. But the dialogue is unbelievably laughable, and Cruise is just not very interesting in his role.

Nope. The party scene in EWS is fiction, except in the mind of stupid white trash conspiracy theorists.

Loved this film.

That party, where they are prepared to gang rape Tom Cruise to death, is pretty scary.

It’s also very ambiguous. It’s not clear how the girl dies.

Also, not clear if that blonde girl is really the store owner’s daughter, or if that’s a lie.

It's a boring movie, and people are stretching for some deeper meaning into that boring mess of a film.

Very boring. Nicole Kidman’s performance is awful

OP you should also take note of the Jewishness of the film’s villain. Before Sydney Pollack was cast, Harvey Keitel was in the role. Kubrick also originally wanted Woody Allen for Pollack’s role.

During the height of MeToo I thought about this film as Jewish name after Jewish name was in the headlines. I wonder what Kubrick, himself a Jew, would have said if he was still alive.

The most haunting image is actually the shot at the end with the little daughter going off with the two old, rabbi-like men in black coats.

If you read the original novella it's based on, "Traumnovelle" by Arthur Schnitzler, you see how much better the story works for early 20th-century Vienna than late 20th century NYC.

The source novel is quite Jewish but Kubrick insisted that it be removed from the script, he was everything in the subtext.

Kubrick was obsessed with Illuminatis and Eyes Wide Shut is basically about a Jewish Illuminati, respectable on the outside but a grotesque cabal of sex and perversion on the inside.

Also note the prominence of the teddy bears in the toy store scene, with bears being the covert symbol of sexual abuse in “The Shining.”

Also it looks like a continuity error, but given Kubrick’s meticulousness it’s probably not. After the daughter goes off with the two rabbi-like men, a little bunny appears in the lap of the huge teddy bear.

There are analysis of The Shining online that are almost as disturbing and unsettling at the film itself.

It was an awful waste of celluloid from a director in decline. He died of embarrassment.

The scenes in the toy store also show Nicole and Tom standing with the daughter next to “Magic Circle” games, which are clear allusions to the ritual circles during the orgy scene, and there are illuminated holiday stars in the background, which reflect the same sorts of stars in the party where Tom and Nicole are both almost lured into sex by other people.

The source material was a loose frame onto which Kubrick built his movie, but like 2001 and The Shining, the underlying novels just serve as the overt plots. The movies are about the meanings of the symbols he ties together in the films. 2001 is not about the threat of artificial intelligence; it’s about the evolution of consciousness. The Shining is not a slasher film like Halloween that is supposed to terrify watchers with gore; it’s about humanity being haunted by our own murderous, genocidal history, and seeing it but not consciously accepting it. And Eyes Wide Shut is similarly about the unthinkable darkness and ritual abuses that undergird our society; men may aspire to be rich, to have beautiful, vapid wives with no ambitions of their own, to be admired in society, etc., but the higher they ascend, all those notions are inverted and undone until they realize that all that is an illusion and the reality is that the richest, most powerful people are entirely amoral and plugged into ways of living that are fully removed from the values we are taught.

If you don’t like Kubrick movies and find them boring and lifeless, it’s probably because you’re only willing to accept the overtly shown plot and dialogue without reading into the symbology. If you think it’s just crazy conspiracy theory to read into his films beyond “it’s about the danger of giving a machine control!” or “it’s supposed to be about sex but he failed because they have no chemistry and there’s nothing erotic about it!” then you’re watching for the story told by the novel and not for the Kubrick story that is made up of visual and auditory language.

I think it’s interesting that a lot of people dislike his movies because they have an inauthentic air but appreciate the effort he puts into aesthetics and at the same time reject reading into the aesthetics as metaphorical.

You cannot watch 2001: A Space Odyssey and reject a symbolic reading based on what Kubrick gives us (and the novel does not): it opens with a prehistoric human bone flying up into the air and transforming into a space station. It ends with an almost 10-minute abstract psychedelic light show, followed by the protagonist dying alone in a hotel room on Jupiter and then becoming a space embryo. All symbols. Beginning and ending the movie with these screams THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT LIFE, AND NOT ABOUT AN EVIL COMPUTER!

The title “Eyes Wide Shut” is right in viewers’ faces: a challenge to anyone who sees the movie to look, with our eyes, at what is obviously in front of us but we normally do not see. It’s not conspiracy theory to read into the visual allegories laid out in the film. It’s mandatory. As with both 2001 and The Shining, Kubrick made the movie not to tell a movie version of the book, but to use the basic plot of the book as a vehicle through which to show a movie version of a philosophy through symbols. That’s why the plots, dialogue and performances often feel disjointed in his movies. Once you start to interpret the symbolic meanings, they make sense. One example: Nicole Kidman has been called “exquisite” in this thread, but her performance is also called “lifeless.” That’s because Kidman’s character is a mind-controlled “sex kitten,” just as the drugged woman in the old man’s house who Tom Cruise has to treat is, and just as the prostitute in the apartment and the model woman in the orgy house are. She is one of them. That’s how she has the mask to leave on Tom’s pillow. It’s never discussed; it’s shown through performance that Kidman is vacant and not in control of herself. At the party in the opening, she—a married mother—responds automatically to a man who want to fuck her by flirting with him, seemingly not herself at all. When she gets stoned, she lashes out at Tom’s manhood and has an emotional breakdown, when normally she’s zombielike and emotionless. By the end, she’s totally vacant and after Tom Cruise’s character’s wild emotional ride and paradigm-exploding discoveries, Nicole tells him like a robot, “now we have to fuck.” She’s a part of the “magic circle” (symbolized by the magic circle game at the end) of old men who drug and perform ritualistic sexual abuses of young women. She is under their control, and she ensnared Tom Cruise and has been programmed to draw him into the web. And not only him: by showing the two of them with their daughter beside the Magic Circle game, and then showing the daughter wander away with the two men in black coats, we see that Tom and Nicole are grooming their own daughter to be a sex kitten for these ritual abuses, as well. And here we arrive back at Jeffrey Epstein and his peers, from Donald Trump and Bill Clinton to Saudi and British princes. All are involved in these activities. We keep our eyes wide shut. We are not willing to see who runs our world and what they do.

Boring comes to mind with I think of this film.

Terrifying, no. Stultifying, yes.

Kubrick relies too much on style and symbolism rather then creating a sense of feeling something.

It's too intellectual rather then visceral.

David Lynch uses symbols too a lot, but even if you don't get the hidden meaning, he does do well in creating a mood, particularly dread, that can be felt by anyone. His film reward you immediately, but reward you further with additional viewings and analysis.

They’re different artists, R25. You may prefer Lynch’s and Van Gogh’s emotive and evocative styles, but that doesn’t invalidate what Kubrick’s or Picasso’s intellectual and analytical approaches to style and symbolism. They’re different sensibilities emanating from different minds.

I like/love all of Kubrick films from Killer's Kiss to Full Metal Jacket inclusive. No time for Fear or Desire (his first) & Eyes Wide Shut (his last).

The film seemed over-the-top and muddled when it was released (to me). It seemed laughable (and I remember the audience laughing, not in a good way, in the theater). It's more than held up now - Kubrick's luminous clarity of image/cinematography and mysterious layered messaging on full display. Problem was, and still is, Cruise's superficial, glossy, star turn. I guess Kubrick wanted that shallowness for the character. I thought Kidman was great. Pollack brought a gravitas to that role that Allen would have made just silly.

This never gets old. Dinner at the Rothschilds in 1972.

Includes Audrey Hepburn's head in a cage (yes, Audrey Hepburn's real head from the living Audrey Hepburn).

There was an excellent thread about EWS not so long ago, maybe 2-3 months.

I missed the part where Hillary led everyone in a chant to Baphomet as she murdered a baby in His Name.

Also, where was Bill? Fucking underage girls behind a curtain?

Please, you QAnon Loons, tell us all about the amazing symbolism of this "classic" that exposed "the Deep State" 20 years ago!

According to the author Kubrick commissioned to write the screenplay, eyes wide shut is about marriage, and how even after years together you don’t truly know the person you’re with.

Is this the last film with Cruise not climbing skyscrapers or hanging from a helicopter?

I wonder if can even act anymore?

Cruise actually has pulled off a few surprises. I thought he was great in Magnolia, for example, and that was a pretty juicy role. Some other things. But I do think Kubrick picked him for the same reason the Coen Bros. picked Brad Pitt for Burn After Reading -- he's dumb, in a way that happens to perfectly suit the role.

This mask is Bob Hope

That was a funny movie!

I agree that Tom Cruise was cast because he is blind in the same way the character is. He’s a “big man on campus” in his mind, at the time he was well liked by people in Hollywood and always spoken of as being oh so handsome, oh so polite, oh so rich, so bankable, etc. But that Tom Cruise was just a facade—which, like Bill in the movie, Tom Cruise himself was not aware of. He strutted around being Mr. Awesome in a world he didn’t really get. He was a pretty set piece being moved around by ugly people with real money—the Hollywood execs, not the performers.

I think it’s also likely that Kubrick chose Cruise and Kidman in part because of their involvement with Scientology. His daughter Vivian joined the cult, and Stanley reportedly tried hard to get her back into the family’s world during the making of the movie. According to this article, he asked her to write the score to the film but she “disconnected” from him and refused. He died days before the movie was released and she attended his funeral with a Scientology handler and “complained of back pain that had been caused 10,000 years ago.”

Maybe Kubrick thought by casting Cruise, that would get his daughter to reconnect with him. Or maybe because he cast Cruise in this particular cult film, that’s why she fully severed their relationship. Either way, I really don’t think he was cast for stellar acting ability.

I could never stay awake through it long enough to even know what the hell it's about.

If you watched the movie with “conspiracy theories” about billionaires and mega-powerful men doing freaky sex shit that gets people killed, then you would not have been surprised to learn about what Jeffrey Epstein did, with whom he did it, and you could predict based on the movie how it would play out in the media. It’s a funny coincidence how parallel the “conspiracy theory” interpretation from 20 years ago and the reality today have turned out to be.

(There are more Epsteins. We just haven’t been told about them.)

The first time I saw it, I was incredibly uneasy and finally decided it was the Christmas lights -- they were all wrong. There's one on a building you can see behind Cruise and it's a pentagram, not a generic star. Wish I could find a clip of it.

This movie is abaolutely 100% true. Did you see Bill and Hillary in masques at the party, talking to Barrack and Michelle? And Jeffrey Epstein was there with Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth!! They had an actor play Trump, but he would never do anything like that! He is chosen by Jesus!

The theories about the symbolism in the film predate QAnon by YEARS. It's reductionist and absurd to pretend this is all QAnon faffery.

In fact, I would go so far as to say that anyone who said there was no symbolism in this film, and who argued that it had nothing about rich people indulging in decadent orgies and murders -- when they were an overt part of the plot! -- were far more anti intellectual than the folks they're trying to insult.

[quote] The Shining is not a slasher film like Halloween that is supposed to terrify watchers with gore

That's not what HALLOWEEN is about at all. Not even close.

Eyes Wide Shut is both boring and laughable. I couldn't sit through it, it was so bad.

R40 You may be thinking of the Star of Ishtar, pictured here. Ishtar/Inanna is a pagan Sumerian/Semitic goddess who is also a correlate to Venus, and so there’s the erotic connection. The party was masquerading as a Christmas party but it was really something else, part of the same ambiguously ancient cult whose sex magic ritual is shown later in the movie. The host was fucking a prostitute upstairs, two young sex kittens try to lure Cruise away to fuck them elsewhere in the house, and an older foreign “daddy” type Sandor Szavost comes on to Kidman and tries to get her to fuck him and she plays along. If you hesitate to buy into any interpretive readings of the movie, you must at least admit that at this party, no one is adhering to any social norms at all; everyone there seems to at least consider casually fucking strangers, even when attending with their spouses.

Some people have interpreted another layer of Kubrick’s movie as being about Jewish people (men specifically) always being alienated, with Tom Cruise as the prototypical dapper Jewish NYC doctor attending Christmas parties but really only being there as a service provider (he has to come to the aid of the host when the host’s prostitute overdoses on drugs). Cruise, as “the wandering Jew,” wanders all around NYC on a nighttime adventure similar to the protagonist in Joyce’s Ulysses.

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R46 As you can see in the majority of the posts here, most people refuse to take any such warning seriously. Even though the ritualistic sex abuse and murdering is overt in the film, people think it’s about Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise’s sex life. Even though we now know how fucking insane and high stakes the Epstein shit is, and the people who participated in his sexual assaults of girls, including many world leaders, people choose not to believe it. Which is why Kubrick called it Eyes Wide Shut. Even when things are playing out in plain view, people choose not to see them.

Especially Hillary and Bill, right?

Fucking loons.

The film we saw was not the one that Kubrick intended. It was re-edited after his death.

And someone here is really threatened and trying to steer this conversation. We get it, you were bored and fell asleep! You think it’s a crazy conspiracy theory! You don’t have to tell us again. But you will lol.

The screenwriter was lying about Kubrick's intent?

Here’s a new NPR report about how Epstein intimidated the media into not reporting what they knew about him, including that he raped children.

Meanwhile, 20 years ago in Eyes Wide Shut, Tom Cruise’s character—the “principled good doctor”—was intimidated into keeping his mouth shut after he knew that an Epstein-like dude who ran sex-magick orgies had murdered a woman he knew who had been groomed from childhood as a prostitute for billionaires’ gang bang parties, which the media reported as the tragic suicide of a former model.

R50 The screenwriter wrote the screenplay Kubrick ordered. Kubrick used the screenplay as the basic foundation for the drama as it played out. On top of it, he layered other stories with his visual, sound and performance direction. The screenwriter didn’t have anything to do with the direction of the film and didn’t need to know anything about its visual symbolism.

[quote]The guy who runs the ritual sex parties in his house and drugs and murders young women even resembles Epstein.

We don't see Red Cloak, do we?

Again, it’s like 2001. The movie was based on a novel about an AI computer taking over a spaceship. Kubrick used that as a basic plot. On top of it, he used visuals and sound to demonstrate the evolution of human consciousness from apelike primates to space, and then through an abstract light form to rebirth. The epic psychedelic 10 minutes are not in the novel. Kubrick did not need to include that because it was written by someone else. It’s absolutely essential to the point of the movie, and it makes the story something entirely other than the basic plot of the book, which is insignificant by comparison.

That NPR story at R51 alleges Elon Musk sought business advice from Epstein. I hadn’t heard about their associations before. That guy really was networked with a shitload of powerful, insanely wealthy men. And he was an organizer of child rape events. How fucking insane is all this? This is the real world, and yet most people are still inclined to insist these things are nothing more than insane people’s conspiracy theories.

R45, I actually meant this particular star, but it may be a Star of Ishtar now that I see it again. It's on the upper left and is a cedar wreath, which at night looked round, but in the daytime when Cruise's character was revisiting the costume shop and such, you could see it was a star.

That's when I realized the Christmas decorations were "off" just a little.

R56 Yeah, everything in the set, the story and the performances is “off.” It’s all subtext. Some people reject that and think it’s just a bad, pretentious movie with wooden acting and a pretty leading lady who shows her boobies.

The lighting work in EWS is some of the best I've seen. It enhances the sense of ominous unreality perfectly.

R22, I love you. I do not find Kubrick to be cold at all. He wants you to READ the image. He isn't one of those directors who is just plot or dialogue driven. The images he projects need to be analyzed and scrutinized. Some people may be put off by the long spaces of relative quietness in his movies, but those parts are often the most important.

R28, I think all of Kubrick's great films have only gotten better with time--Paths of Glory, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, Full Metal Jacket, Eyes Wide Shut. Many of these movies were laughed at or dismissed originally. I think that's common when the art you make isn't trying to cater specifically to people of a specific era.

R34, Cruise was picked for the same reason Ryan O'Neal was chosen for Barry Lyndon. And it works perfectly.

Funny you should mention that, as John McEnroe called Ryan O'Neal "the Tom Cruise of his time". He really was. The pretty boy with limited acting ability used for what he represents about a certain era.

R62, that's so true. And yes, that's very ironic for so many reasons.

I hate Tom Cruise now that I know what he's really like and what he accepts AND participates in within scientology.

I need to see it again, it is just that I hate Tom Cruise.

[quote]I hate Tom Cruise now that I know what he's really like and what he accepts AND participates in within scientology.

What is Tom Cruise "really like?"

And what does he accept "AND participates in within scientology?"

R64 I can’t watch anything Tom Cruise is in after hearing all the crazy Scientology shit

R65 I avoided it until a few years ago just because Tom Cruise is in it. I dislike him so much that I don’t watch his movies. But I went on a Kubrick binge and decided it’s probably worth watching despite Cruise and it’s a favorite now despite Cruise.

I keep getting it mixed up with Story O.

Knowing that Tom Cruise is the figurehead and second in command of a cult, and that his actress wife had to steal their child away under cover of night and hide on the opposite coast to get away from him adds to the creepy, disturbing nature of the film about a father who gets lost in a world of surreal, nightmarish power abuses.

R66...

It may make Cruise-haters feel better knowing that Kubrick handles him with a certain... contempt, described above.

R72 Probably not. It seems like a lot of people are completely blind to Kubrick’s direction. They are looking for a titillating orgy movie that will get them off and seem not to even register that this film is loaded with symbolism, not just Christmas decorations to indicate the season.

Three strikes: Pretentious. Boring. Stars Tom Cruise.

R72, no kidding. I read that Kubrick thoroughly enjoyed toying and humiliating Cruise and Kidman. And I believe that scene where Cruise imagines Kidman having sex with that sailor (I think that's what he was) actually happened--Kubrick instructed him to penetrate her. Cruise and Kidman did it because they would do anything to work with someone as lauded as Kubrick. He's a phenomenal director and a huge asshole to the actors he works with.

R73, this is the case with almost all of Kubrick's lauded features. They were all dismissed for their surface level, NOT for what was really in the actual image. Side note: It gives me great joy that Kubrick's movies tend to get better with time while Spielberg's were shit then and they are REALY shit now.

R39 you're a moron.

I think the terrifying part is it took 2 years or something to shoot.

[italic]WHY?

There are a couple of seriously damaged, conspiracy theory freaks in this thread.

Q is not real. The Illuminati is not real. Yes, rich old men (and to a lesser extent women) exploit and use young men and women. This is not new, it is not a bizarre conspiracy theory, it is the way of the world and has always been the way of the world. Take a look at ancient history and you will find it was no different then or at any time on earth since then.

Seek help and medication and education, you need it all.

r79 how do you live with being sooooo boring...?!

[quote] the reality is that the richest, most powerful people are entirely amoral and plugged into ways of living that are fully removed from the values we are taught.

Said the person who has never met or had relationships with rich and powerful people. Yes, you can find sociopaths among the rich, just as you can find sociopath homeless people and sociopath middle-class people. 5-10% of the population is comprised of sociopaths or those with a high degree of psychopathic behavior.

I know, R80, reality is soooo boring. Just go back to pretending that reality doesn't exist and your life will "feel" okay again.

So, R80, you need the excitement in your life that the fake QAnon shit is giving you?

If it's an elaborate conspiracy expose, why is it so lackluster and drab?

You'd expect at least a pulse of excitement....

Everything is a conspiracy theory! Everything is about child sexual abuse! Everything is the rich out to get us! Everything is to blame for people's miserable lives except themselves!

Wheeeeeeee!

Horribly boring and tedious.

The only thing terrifying about it is crazy, creepy Tom Cruise.

R79 is an idiot. No one here believes in the Illuminati but they are very much real within the context of Kubrick’s films, which we are discussing as art. Kubrick had many bizarre paranoid obsessions among which was the Illuminati which he used coded symbols for in every film. He would probably be diagnosed as a Paranoid Personality Disorder today. But whether or not you believe in it, the symbolism adds to the strange haunting power of his art.

[quote]r88 whether or not you believe in it, the symbolism adds to the strange haunting power of his art.

For you, I guess.

The rest of us just dozed off during this one.

I have a nice movie for r89, it spells everything out for you so you don’t have to think.

Nice try, R88, but it seems a lot of people here think movies fall together without any real thought on the parts of directors. No symbolism. No attention to detail or thought behind anything.

“Get me an old-timey photo! Any old photo will do! Ghosts! This is a movie ‘bout ghosts! I sure do hope it turns out scary cuz that’s what I’m a-gettin’ paid for!”

I'm so thankful that the rational people decided to speak up in this thread. I always get so frustrated trying to tell people how much bullshit the conspiracy stuff is.

Thanks guys

R91 nice strawman. Kubrick had an amazing imagination. His movies are complex webs with many hidden messages. They're great. Tons of symbolism and hidden images.

That doesn't mean that wacko QAnon Pizzagate bullshit conspiracy theories are true.

Hey Pat, you're still hideously ugly. Just a friendly reminder.

R4, Are you aware that multiple scenes were cut out of the orgy which would make it much darker?

The conspiracy theory freaks hate to be challenged.

You know nothing about Stanley Kubrick. You know nothing about his art and work. You know nothing about the world we all live in. Your mind is not working properly. Your perceptions cannot be trusted. Kubrick is not speaking to you through his film.

Help is available, get some.

It makes me sad that this is the last film Nicole Kidman made in which she looked like a real person - and showed off her hot body.

On one of the first episodes of the Fame is a Bitch podcast AJ Benza casually relates that Nicole had confided to him that Kubrick had become obsessed with secret societies and child sex trafficking and abuse while doing research for eyes wide shut and that he was planning on doing a film about it. She was annoyed by the idea ( now that we know about her pedo dad we know why).

Arthur Schnitzler was obsessed with high class and sex, I've just found out that ensemble film 360 where everyone sleeps with everybody, with Ben Foster, Jude Law and Rachel Weisz was also based on one of his novels. Jesus, was this person a one note writer or what?

OP do a conspiracy theory analysis of 'A Chorus Line"?

R98, No, she didn't.

Also, she did not give some exposé about this two years ago in that fake interview that someone created (and many lunatics here actually believed was genuine).

QAnon Loons believe anything as long as it keeps them excited, like the poster upthread.

For once and for all - just STFU about it, PAT

The smell of Poo is strong in this thread.

In which part of EWS does Kubrick prophesize the coming of Trump to come and save everyone from Hillary and her Pizza Prisons along with the rest of "the Deep State?"

Some people are drug addicts, they just can't help themselves. Occasionally, that will result in bathroom incidents that are unpleasant and shoe-destroying. The stench and craziness invade and ruin threads, it is known.

After the nightmarish 2016 election, Kidman DID admonish her fellow Democrats and told us to "SUPPORT YOUR PRESIDENT!"

Oh. My. GAWD.

R105 where did you find that lmao?!?!?!??!!!?

If you want to see CT on overload read the discussions about The Matrix films. Aren't they rebooting the series?

R103 and R105 made this terrible day better! Love!

I feel left out. What is the joke of R105?

R105, that picture is the legendary dame, D@vida R0chelle. We could get spanked by Muriel, we used to not be allowed to mention her real name here so never type out her real name FYI,

R110, DL trolls and bullies once again trying to derail a thread just like they do on those of the British Royal Family.

OP, Do you think that there are other films that reveal hidden truths? CT go crazy over Disney Films like Sorcerer's Apprentice.

R110

Walt knew about Hillary way back then????????????????

OP & her sock puppets should be euthanized for their stupidity.

Who or what is "CT" please?

Cunt Therapist

Conspiracy theorists

R107, someone posted it here years ago but it's from a newspaper in Nevada so she can't scrub it the way she has with some other photos (which we all saved on our hard drives before they disappeared). This is a local meeting trying to legalize pot where the crazy old bat showed up to run her mouth. Pooshoes, the world's leading authority on who is allowed to be in America and who should go to jail, is actually a fucking drug addict.

People who support the Fat Orange 12,000 Lie Cunt have to take a lot of drugs to make watching Fux 24/7 tolerable while they troll the interwebs. She's never had a career and holding down even a menial job is out of the question now. She's just useless. No great loss, she wasn't a very good maid anyway.

This is how she describes herself (she's only ever been an extra): [bold] SAG-AFTRA Actress/Comedienne/Model with principle credits in Hollywood and in Vegas, willing to travel at own expense for more SPEAKING roles. Mid Western pretty girl-next-door type look or comedy/character; I really stand out on film. [/bold]

Mid Western pretty? Girl next door? Look at her. She's fucking delusional. It's probably the drug addiction.

Poo Shoes' idea of Mid Western "pretty" and "girl next door" because she's fucking insane.

R107 Poo Shoes is a Trumper??? I’m obsessed with the Poo Shoes origin story! Frankly, I just like saying Poo Shoes

So everything you don't believe is a Q-anon conspiracy now? What a moron. It's a well known fact that Antony Kidman was accused of child sex abuse and links to pedo rings and that he mysteriously died at a hotel room in Singapore of a 'heart attack'. It takes 2 seconds to search for Australian press news on him and the allegations. Hollywood press is forbidden to ask any question about her dad. That I know for a fact.

As for the story with Kubrick that's what AJ Benza says on his podcast you can listen to it for yourself, it has nothing to do with make belief articles online. At one of his early episodes he casually mentions that during dinner with her, she mentioned Kubrick was obsessed with pedo rings and the elite. Is he a Trumper now? Yes he is, so take it with a grain of salt if you will. Fact is, he did say it.

So fuck off.

Sorry this was meant for r119.

Poo Shoes is a Trumper??? I’m obsessed with the Poo Shoes origin story! Frankly, I just like saying Poo Shoes

R122 seems like a special case.

Yep. A special fucking headcase.

Why am I a headcase because I've mentioned two facts that happened? The guy was accused of that and Benza talks about Kidman. The end. I'm gonna look for the episode now, so I can post here.

They should rename paranoid schizophrenia “pizzagate”

R126 Nobody cares

Your "proof" of a dead man's pedophilia is some AJ Benza gossip podcast?

Um, yeah, okay that's convincing.

The podcast talks about Kubrick not Kidman's dad. Get real.

R122, AJ Benza said it.

ZERO proof Kidman said that TO him, not proof Kubrick said any such things TO her.

It's all Trumpster AJ Benza making up shit for you to believe in your QAnon lunacy.

Benza claiming it does NOT make it real, you QAnon Trumpster.

Kidman is not on tape saying that.

Go back to Above Top Secret.

They don't believe any facts because facts are published by "the mainstream liberal media" and thus are "fake news". But they eagerly, without any evidence or citation, and frequently in the face of obviously conflicting, proven truths, will believe anything any random nutter on youtube announces to be "the things *they* don't want you to know". These people's brains are so mis-wired, at this point, that I really do not think there is any helping them. They have been thoroughly and, frankly, expertly brain washed and radicalized by the Kremlin-GOP Alliance and have had their minds minced down to their base survival instincts.

The Libs and their evil Pizza PEdo Deep State!

Damn that Hillary Clinton, priestess of Baphomet!

Baphomet sees into your soul, R126!

Hail Hillary, Oracle of Baphomet!

The hidden symbols in this image of Baphomet spell out "Hillary Clinton is my Emissary on Earth, Chief among my Child-Sacrificing and Eating Cult! She must become US President to further the goals of the Deep State which I founded thousands of years ago. Only Donald J. Trump can stop my chosen Hillary, only he can stop my Deep State! Beware Trump! Hail Hillary!"

[quote] R41: This movie is abaolutely 100% true. Did you see Bill and Hillary in masques at the party, talking to Barrack and Michelle?

I know there are such rumors, but they really kill me. I mean, Barrack is Black! He was not in Skull & Bones. His parents were not in the CIA. For Pete’s Sake!

Oh no, I used to love that show AJ Benza had 20 years ago or so. Is he really a Trumpster? I had no idea he was even still around.