Jeffrey Epstein - convicted sex offender - rots in jail Part 4

That's the way, aha, aha I like it, aha, aha

What's the next step? Because remember when Jeff Bezos told the National Inquirer to publish and be damned? It was all over the news for a week and I thought surely there would be some fallout re Trump but nada. And now I have no idea what's going on with that.

Good question, r2. With that stunt, Pecker lost the non prosecution agreement he had with the Feds regarding the Cohen case.

I have to wonder if slob Billy shit that down as well trying to keep the contents of Pecker's safe secret, too.

Because you know he had shit he never published

Between Epstein and Pecker, the whole thing makes you wonder just how much blackmail has been going on all this time. Certainly the letter from Pecker to Bezos makes it sound like this wasn't Pecker's first time at the extortion rodeo. Also makes me wonder if some of the current Epstein fall-out has something to do with the investigators Bezos set loose.

The Silicon Valley technocrats are an interesting add to the mix--tremendous wealth, concentration of power, but few of them grew up as part of the monied elite. Some of them, like Peter Thiel, are pretty much evil. Others, not so much.

T or F?

Extremely comprehensive list of Epstein’s black book names along with more details, including the fact that Epstein, Weinstein, Charlie Rose, and Bill Clinton used to recommend female assistants to each other.

Is that wallpaper or padding or what on those walls?

R7 it’s supposed to be gold-flaked tooled leather (lol)

I assumed it was sound-proofing.

Money doesn't buy good taste.

It *does* buy a herd's-worth of REAL leopard skins to cover your BOD boardroom chairs, however.

I don't know if this has been posted, but it's about Charlie Rose and these men abusing women and recommending them for job with other sexual deviants

Speaking of Silicon Valley technocrats, Jeffrey Epstein is connected through John Brockman, an shady NY literary agent focusing on technology, and involved with the Ted conference and the Billionaires' Dinner. The internet is getting scrubbed of photos and lists of attendees at these events.

"And a number of people who showed up for the dinner are really cooking: Jeff Bezos of Amazon; Google's CEO Eric Schmidt, Larry, Sergey, Lori Park, and Megan Smith; Pierre Omidyar, founder of eBay; Dean Kamen, inventor of the Segway; Steve Case, former Chairman of AOL Time-Warner who is now on to new adventures; and Jeffrey Epstein, who recently endowed The Program for Evolutionary Dynamics at Harvard University which is involved in researching applications of mathematics and computer science to biology."

There are so many more Silicon Valley leaders who were involved in these dinners at which Jeffrey Epstein was a regular. My husband met him and said he was the most repellent and disgusting person he had ever met, but his acquaintance who was a Microsoft executive was involved in connecting Jeffrey up with prominent scientists.

You got that right r10. What the hell is that crap? Who has leather walls? What decorating period would that be from? 70s orgy southwestern?

This was where Trump recruited most of his cabinet members. What a swamp!!!

[bold]Jeffrey Epstein partied with Trump's closest advisers including Wilbur Ross, Rudy Giuliani, and Steve Mnunchin at dinner hosted by David Koch just TWO MONTHS after his release from prison (Dailymail)[/bold]

Jeffrey Epstein hobnobbed with high-profile guests from the worlds of politics, banking, Hollywood and philanthropy at a Hamptons party just two months after his release by the state of Florida for soliciting a minor.

Photos from a 2010 dinner party at the home of David and Julia Koch obtained by DailyMail.com show Epstein as he chats with guests after a screening of Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps.

Among those guests were two men who currently serve in President Trump's cabinet and his most trusted legal adviser.

Steve Mnuchin and his then-wife Heather, Rudy Giuliani and his then-wife Judith and Wilbur Ross all attended the screening and dinner that followed at the Koch's.

The Wall Street Journal wrote about those who attended the event a few days later, and in the piece noted that Giuliani 'walked out of the theater around the same time as Jeffrey Epstein, leading one observer to remark on the "beautifully done meeting of the prosecutor and the felon."'

R6 That piece on Epstein's "little black book" from A to Z is a tour de force.

Glad Peggy Siegel got hers. She was a nasty entitled cunt.

ttytyyyy

Gouliani speaks!

[quote]If the Mueller probe taught the world one thing, it’s that anyone professionally associated with Rudy Giuliani should demand a clause in his contract barring him from speaking publicly on their behalf.

[quote]Appearing on Hill.TV, the former New York City mayor told the hosts of “Rising” that the fallout from the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking case is “obviously going to implicate a lot of people—I can’t tell you who but it’s not going to end up with just Jeffrey Epstein.“ While that is certainly the consensus—reporter Nick Bryant, who obtained Epstein’s “black book,” said in an interview with Vanity Fair that the scandal will “go all the way up to Mount Olympus”—one person you could say is definitely implicated in the scandal is Giuliani’s own client, Donald Trump.

[quote]Elsewhere in the Hill.TV interview, ole Rudes contended that anyone who spent a considerable amount of time with Epstein—like, say, Trump—more than likely knew that crimes were being committed. “If you spent this much time with him and he was so involved with these underaged girls—who did you see him with and what was he doing and what did he tell you and what did he say to you and how could you have missed it,” he said. “Maybe some were innocent—maybe some weren’t, but I think they’re going to investigate everybody.”

The Ghoul is even more demented than fat Donnie if you can believe that.

Watch him walk it back when all of the time fat Donnie spent with the pedo comes out.

The NY piece on the little black book is amazing.

R10, Money may not have bought Epstein taste, but it seems to have bought him Alberto Pinto--tasteful friends, what say you of Pinto's work?

Did Pinto decorate Trump's penthouse? It looks like the same affinity for gold and gilt.

Pinto and his sister have done some very nice homes, yachts and jets. Seems he was designer to the stars before his death. For me the design seems a bit reminiscent of the 1980s and is bit similar to Tony Duquette and his "More is More" style.

Reuters: Jeffrey Epstein appeals decision to deny bail in sex trafficking case

Daily Beast: We Found Red Flags All Over Jeffrey Epstein’s Jail Records

Epstein was bribing his watchers.

So basically, Epstein never actually served time.

It’s kind of crazy how many people let money override their own self-respect. My parents were old-fashioned in some ways but always taught me that my good name and reputation was worth far more than whatever I’d get for selling out or doing something unethical for money. It would be one thing for people in desperate financial situations, but people like Cy Vance or Peggy Siegel...I like Don Draper said, they cry themselves to sleep on a bed made of money.

R28 And that is Donald Trump's America. Some of my friends who have always been decent people changed with Trump election. They don't care about anything but greed. It's a get it while I can kind of thinking.

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Very interesting, r30.

If wolf is to be believed, Epstein has financial info on fat Donnie. Sounds like he was aware of the scams fat Donnie has been running over the years.

No wonder he was freaking out on Twitter when the pedo was arrested. He's afraid Epstein will sell him out to get a better deal with prosecutors.

Trump turned around and sold that $40 million house to a shady Russian for $100 million. Pure money laundering.

Years ago there was a video of Ivanka giving a tour of that particular house. It's just gone now. I swear that in the video she acted as if the family had spent many happy years there. Thanks r30 I didn't know about the Epstein connection there.

Ooooh, shady

[quote]After Epstein was arrested this month, federal prosecutors further alleged that Epstein paid two people whom investigators identified as coconspirators hundreds of thousands of dollars in 2008, seemingly to keep them quiet. The cash recipients weren’t named, but it’s not unreasonable to infer that one of them could be Marcinko.

[quote]As a commercial pilot, the former Gulfstream Girl, whose real name is Nadia Marcinko and before that Nadia Marcinkova, holds three rating certificates: for single-engine aircraft, multi-engine aircraft, and various Gulfstream business jets, which have their own rating certificates. Furthermore, she is the CEO of Aviloop, a supremely odd aviation branding business, whose website features flawless shots of her with Gulfstreams.

[quote]Through the years, Epstein has maintained a fleet of aircraft that has included: a Gulfstream IV, a Gulfstream GV-SP, a helicopter, and the Lolita Express, which seated nearly 200 people. In the aughts, when Epstein logged some 600 hours of flight time per year, New York magazine reported that he flew so much because he was scouting “investment opportunities.” Before he landed in jail this month, Epstein's private jets were still criss-crossing the planet about every third day.

[quote]Federal prosecutors untangling the Epstein web are going to have a lot of flight paths to study—and perhaps one day we will see a map of a modern-day slave trade, connecting points east and south like Slovakia and Ecuador with Palm Beach, New York City, and perhaps some of Epstein’s other hangouts and redoubts, including Columbus, Ohio, and New Mexico.

[quote]Marcinko’s story is her own, though. And with Epstein facing new charges, her testimony could be invaluable. After all, among the numberless women and girls who have come forward saying they were raped and enslaved by Epstein and his syndicate, she and the other alleged coconspirators could belong to a subset who may have started out as victims and ended up as possible abusers. Victims have testified that Marcinko was central to Epstein’s recruitment strategies and often joined in the abuse.

[quote]Her story also suggests a possible connection between the indentured girls who say they were brutalized by the Epstein syndicate and a part of the global transportation infrastructure of human trafficking. If Epstein’s arrest really does lead to a sustained effort to break the back of international sex-slave trade, governments should monitor more closely the use of Gulfstreams and Boeings to oligarchs and their cutouts. They are also going to have to crack down on planes full of human “cargo,” complicit private airports, and the extensive brutality, inhumanity, and complicity of some in this corporate jet set.

Drone footage of the larger St James Island shows extremely little development.

A story that was a major red flag with Trump - buying the Florida property for $40m and selling for $100m to a Russian - now has an Epstein twist. This just keeps getting better and better.

No wonder he offered to hire Guards to “ensure” he would stay in his 71st Street home prison just off Park Ave.

Can Giuliani also be taken down in this? I'd like to be rid of them all in one fell swoop.

Ghoul-iani is as bad as Trump

And of course Deutsche Bank is involved. They always are. They should change their name to Money Launderers R Us

Jeffrey Epstein Moved Money Overseas in Transactions His Bank Flagged to U.S.

As Deutsche Bank officials this year scrambled to extricate themselves from a yearslong relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, the wealthy financier charged this month with sex trafficking, they uncovered suspicious transactions in which Mr. Epstein had moved money out of the United States. Deutsche Bank reported the transactions to a federal agency in charge of policing financial crimes, according to three people familiar with the bank’s internal processes. The report came as the bank started looking for signs that Mr. Epstein was using his financial resources for the purposes of sex trafficking.

Mr. Epstein, who has been accused of operating a sex-trafficking ring involving dozens of victims, some as young as 14, is being held in a Manhattan jail cell after federal prosecutors argued he was a flight risk, citing his vast financial resources. He has a byzantine network of businesses and personal holdings, which include real estate, an island and private planes valued at more than $500 million. Mr. Epstein’s lawyer, Reid Weingarten, did not respond to requests for comment Tuesday afternoon. Deutsche Bank has been contacted by prosecutors and other government authorities investigating Mr. Epstein. Joerg Eigendorf, a Deutsche Bank spokesman, said the bank was “absolutely committed to cooperating with all relevant authorities.”

Deutsche Bank executives are still trying to understand the depth and scope of the bank’s relationship with Mr. Epstein, who has been a client of its private-banking division since at least 2013 — years after his conduct became public in a prostitution case involving a teenage girl. Mr. Epstein struck a lenient plea deal that included a non-prosecution agreement from federal authorities, and the case has been held up as a glaring example of how the wealthy and well-connected can evade consequences.

At least one bank dropped Mr. Epstein as a client in the years after his guilty plea. But it wasn’t until late last year, after The Miami Herald published an investigation into the earlier sexual abuse allegations, that Deutsche Bank decided to sever ties with him. The process proved more complicated and time-consuming than executives had initially anticipated because Deutsche Bank’s private-banking division had opened several dozen accounts for Mr. Epstein and his businesses. The bank’s antiquated technology systems did not help. On a number of occasions, Deutsche Bank executives had thought they had shut down all of Mr. Epstein’s accounts, only to learn that there were others that they had not previously been aware of, according to one of the people. At least as of late spring, there were still transactions taking place in some of Mr. Epstein’s Deutsche Bank accounts, the three people said. Executives now believe that they have closed all of Mr. Epstein’s accounts.

continued

The bank’s relationship with Mr. Epstein has been another black eye for Deutsche Bank, which is laying off thousands of employees as it struggles to return to profitability. The bank has been dogged by repeated financial scandals. It is under federal criminal investigation for potential money laundering, an investigation that has raised questions about Deutsche Bank’s handling of suspicious activity reports. Two congressional committees and state prosecutors in New York have also opened investigations into the bank’s relationship with President Trump, who received a total of more than $2 billion in loans from Deutsche Bank over nearly two decades, even as other major banks refused to do business with him. Mr. Epstein appears to have moved his business to Deutsche Bank after JP Morgan Chase cut ties with him. He had been a client of JPMorgan’s private-banking division from the late 1990s until around 2013, five years after he had pleaded guilty to state prostitution charges.

In addition to wealth-management accounts, Deutsche Bank also provided loans to Mr. Epstein and his businesses, according to three people familiar with the relationship. That relationship has been cause for concern within the bank even before the heightened scrutiny brought by The Herald’s reporting. In 2015 and 2016, anti-money laundering compliance officers in Deutsche Bank’s offices in New York and Jacksonville, Fla., raised a variety of concerns about the work the bank was doing with Mr. Epstein. The employees were concerned that the bank’s reputation could be harmed if it became public that Mr. Epstein was a client, according to the three people familiar with the relationship. In addition, the compliance officers on at least one occasion noticed potentially illegal activity in one of Mr. Epstein’s accounts, including transactions in which money was moving outside the United States, two of the people said. The compliance officers produced a so-called suspicious activity report, but it is unclear whether the report was ever filed with the Treasury Department’s financial-crimes division.Despite the compliance officers’ misgivings, the bank continued to do extensive business with Mr. Epstein.

Earlier this year, as the bank rushed to disentangle itself from him, officials discovered additional transactions that they saw as problematic, three people said. That prompted the bank to submit a suspicious activity report to the Treasury Department. The nature of the bank’s concerns about the 2019 transactions was not clear. Just because a bank files a suspicious activity report does not mean the transaction was actually improper: Banks sometimes err on the side of over-reporting troubling transactions to avoid government criticism that they missed red flags. The report was filed with the government as Deutsche Bank conducted an internal investigation into its relationship with Mr. Epstein. Deutsche Bank officials are still trying to determine what Mr. Epstein was using his accounts for, including where and to whom he had previously moved money. “We’re still trying to get our arms around it,” one of the people said.

Those Tramp idiots that ignored Congressional subpoenas out of loyalty are the lowest shit suckers and the dumbest assholes. They are being asked to throw their lives away and go to jail for Tramp when he won't give a rats ass for them in return. To purposely and defiantly break the law for him to express loyalty to the biggest conman in history will require a whole slew of updates to DSM-IV.

EXCLUSIVE: Jeffrey Epstein visited the Clinton White House multiple times in the early 90s.

He just attempted suicide

What did he do?

Maybe prosecutors will offer him lenience if he tattles on the orgies he had with Trump and others?

He either got attacked or just tried to kill himself

It's true.

Is polonium involved?

"A fourth source said an assault has not been ruled out, and that another inmate was questioned. The inmate who investigators have talked to in Lower Manhattan facility has been identified as Nicholas Tartaglione, according to a source. Tartaglione is a former Orange County police officer who was arrested in December 2016 and accused of killing four men in an alleged cocaine distribution conspiracy, then burying their bodies in his yard in Otisville, according to court records."

On July 3 Tartaglione was caught with an illicit cellphone in the jail. That's interesting.

[quote]The confiscation of the cell phone was first revealed Friday in a letter from Tartaglione’s lawyer, Bruce Barket, to U.S. District Judge Kenneth Karas, expressing concern that privileged material could be on the phone and asking that the federal prosecutors on the case not have access to it.

It's like a Law and Order episode.

Uh.....

Bet this was a fakeout by Epstein as part of a request to transfer or a Hail Mary pass to support his bail appeal. Curled up in the fetal position with a couple marks on his neck? Sure buddy.

I predicted this somewhere back in Part 3.

He’s now reported to have been found injured in his cell. I have no further details at this time.

Pedos never do well in jail. Not shedding tears for him.

Send him to rikers.

The sniveling little bitch.

[quote]The inmate who investigators have talked to in Lower Manhattan facility has been identified as Nicholas Tartaglione, according to two sources. Tartaglione is a former police officer in Westchester County who was arrested in December 2016 and accused of killing four men in an alleged cocaine distribution conspiracy, then burying their bodies in his yard in Otisville in Orange County, according to court records.

[quote]The attorney for Tartaglione denied all the claims that his client attacked the financier, saying his client and Epstein get along well.

Why are we not surprised that Epstein "gets along well" with someone who's been accused of murdering four people and burying them in his yard?

He should be in solitary. I think that cop is a hit man.

He cannot die till he names names.

It's a ploy to get to a better facility. He's being bothered? Put him in solitary at rikers.

[quote] The inmate who investigators have talked to in Lower Manhattan facility has been identified as Nicholas Tartaglione, according to a source. Tartaglione is a former Orange County police officer who was arrested in December 2016 and accused of killing four men in an alleged cocaine distribution conspiracy, then burying their bodies in his yard in Otisville

A shady ex-cop who was a cocaine distributor and has murdered 4 men? He's definitely a hit man

I bet the cop's lawyer was the middleman who brokered the deal and I wouldn't doubt it if he visited his client at the jail within the last week

lawyer and client conferences/meetings aren't recorded

Jeffrey is such a drama queen!!!

A NEW explosive documentary series is set to explore the horrifying sex crimes of Jeffrey Epstein and his links to A-listers, filmmakers say.

It follows the success of Lifetime's recently acclaimed Surviving R Kelly docuseries and promises to bring to light predatory behavior that had been "hiding in plain sight". Jeffrey Epstein is set to be the focus of an explosive new documentary series

CBS reporting he attempted suicide in his cell.

or he may have been attacked I'm sure lots of people want him dead

If anyone was smart there would be someone with him 24 hours a day. But stupidity seems to be reigning

#ClintonBodyCount is now trending on Twitter. Started by the Russians, of course.

Because it makes so much more sense that Bill Clinton would send someone to beat him up in jail when Donald Trump is a sitting president with - in his own words - all the power in the world, and was actually taped groping girls at one of his parties.

Twitter has been pushing the troll comments about this being a Clinton "hit" to the top of the comment threads. These are comments without any likes or only a couple, so it's not like an algorithm blindly decided they were popular "top" comments.

Is he hurt worse than we're being told? I can't imagine why they would have to investigate what happened if he could just tell them. Obviously, he can't tell them what happened, which raises questions.

Obviously Hilary snuck into the cell and did a number on him. I mean she killed Vince Foster with her cold bare hands, right? I don't know why the DOJ isn't investigating this!

Oh please, he probably pinched himself a few times in his neck and laid there pretending to be dead. He's high profile, they have to investigate coz he will probably sue the State of NY later for letting it happen. That's how these con men work.

LOL.

Vermin, meet vermin.

[quote]Barket said both his client and Epstein are in the Special Housing Unit, where restrictions compound what he described as “inhumane” conditions across the entire MCC—including insect and rodent infestation

As a former frequent visitor of the MCC, I'd like to say that it's just fine the way it is.

R71, they cant just ask him, because he could just say anything. If this was an attempt to get moved to a better cel, or the infirmary, or such. Or if it were an attack, you’d want witness statements; though, not like anyone could be trusted, but I think the justice system doesn’t really want the truth, just a story with corroboration.

you can't trust what he says while he's in there anyways...it could be viewed either way by both sides. you know, both sides will say..."he's just saying that to get better conditions etc"

Boo hoo. It’d be nice if he felt real fear for a while and then suffered quite a bit before his timely demise.

I just read the other day that he didn't fit the profile to commit suicide. Someone went in and tried to kill him. If he's in solitary, you figure it out. Why would he try now? he has so much money and his lawyers haven't even started yet. This was definitely a hit job

No, he's trying to get out of Jail R80. It's what these cunts pull to get released on bail.

He's having withdrawal symptoms from not fucking or abusing a child...he is used to getting 3 massages a day!

Miami Herald EXCLUSIVE: Florida Lawmaker calling for state probe of Jeffrey Epstein case says she’s been told to "Back off Little Girl,' by supporters of Palm Beach sheriff now in spotlight for giving Epstein a cushy work release.

Florida Sen. Lauren Book has reached out to Capitol police after receiving an anonymous warning connected to her demand for a state inquiry into Palm Beach Sheriff Ric Bradshaw’s handling of accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein’s lenient work release program, the Miami Herald has learned.

Book, a vocal advocate for child sexual assault survivors, said she also received more than a dozen calls by Bradshaw’s political supporters asking her to back off on her call for an investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement into Bradshaw.

I'm tellin' ya you have no idea how deep this goes and the darkness within it. They are trying to kill him. Anyone know what condition he's in? They said he was in a fetal position, that's not good. Maybe he has been harmed enough that he will never be able to talk.

If he dies, I wouldn't shed a tear. No sympathy. I will be angry because I want him to do the time.

Google pedos and jail, they don't survive long in jail for obvious reasons.

all that is true but he was under suicide watch and isolated.

We want him to talk!

If he’s so despondent as to pretend to attempt suicide, how does he think that’ll convince the judge that giving him access to all the methods of self harm in his mansion is the answer?

Somebody’s hoping that if he doesn’t talk, this investigation will go away?

R84, Any hints as to "how deep this goes and the darkness within it?" Guesses appreciated too.

R83, Asking courageous Lauren Book, Democratic Senator from FL to run for POTUS.

R83, Sen Laura Book, Democrat FL, should be a future POTUS candidate.

r89 I can guarantee we don't want to know how deep and how dark. Once you unleash the evil, it's in your head. I for one never want to know. Just knowing in my gut is already enough.

To add to R13's post, Epstein was also featured in many of these 2002 photos (since deleted), smiling with the bigwigs. The cleanup is well underway. Some of the people actually look evil.

I’m not convinced that an experienced killer would make a mistake, and think that if Epstein really wanted to die, he would be dead. This seems like a “woe, woe is me, let me out of here” gesture.

R92, Nothing could be worse than some of the internet rumors.

Sentence him to prison, and a straight jacket. Hmm?

R84: or he was raped

He's fine and sends his love.

If that brawny ex-cop collie had tried to whack Epstein, he'd be dead. I think this was Epstein's "cry for help"....Not that he was actually trying to kill himself, but he's trying to get different "accommodations".

Ha! That's 'cellie' above...If his cellmate were a dog, it should be a pitbull with a history of murder.

Plus, r100, Nick really isn't a collie type.

I highly doubt there are recordings of Trump fucking girls. Trump learned from Roy Cohn. Trump is a jackass; Cohn was horrible, but brilliant. Somewhere along the line I'm sure Cohn told Trump "only fuck people in a room on your own property, whether it be a jet, a condo, a hotel." Trump hasn't been known to get nude & fuck any woman in a place he doesn't own. If he really attacked that EJ woman, Rene ER how he did it......she had her clothes on. He had his coat on. Even if there were ca,eras in there recording them, which is doubtful back then, you wouldn't be able to prove Trump raped her. He got her in a corner. He could say "We were just making out."

Trump is dumb, but is possessed of a low cunning and was informed how to be a criminal by one iof the best criminal minds out there. I've no doubt he had the best equipment for finding spy gear in his hotels and sent his boy Keith in to check any empty room out.

Trump screwed Stormy Daniels in a hotel at Lake Tahoe.

Ugh, I refuse to click on a link to the Sun. It makes the old Philadelphia Enquirer look like a prayer book.

I've already seen a documentary about Epstein. I saw it on one of the crime channels, but I believe it was originally produced by NBC or CBS. They interviewed victims and showed photos. One of them mentioned Prince Andrew and said she had sex with him. None of them mentioned Trump or Clinton.

Anyone think the "hit man" did an attempted on JE to scare him into revealing what he knows? LE could then offer to put him into hidden protective custody as an exchange for his safety. Or they could claim JE would be released into the general population where he'd likely be brutally gang raped to death if JE didn't want to cooperate with LE. Just an idea.

What's the deal with Columbus, OH? I know Wexner lived there. Why did he and Epstein make a new town nearby? I've heard such crazy things. I heard that Wexner had CIA ties and that his clothing was flown from Hong Kong into an airfield that was run by the CIA and that it was the same airfield where the CIA flew planes out to pick up people in Europe for "extraordinary rendition."

Once I was watching one of those ID discovery shows about a woman who disappeared and was tracked to Columbus by a private detective who said she'd been kidnapped by a sex trafficking ring. She had emotional problems and drug problems. He said he tracked her to a house that was known for sex trafficking but she'd been taken away before he got there. He said he believes she's now dead.

I wonder how often that happens? That women with problems who disappeared but were never found might have been kidnapped for sex trafficking. And what about the Chinese women in the billionaire's massage parlors in FL? I'm sure they never grew up thinking, "I want to be a prostitue in a strip mall in foreign country some day."

Wexner and Epstein seemed to have endless funds. Did The Limited really sell that much clothing? I thought it went out of business. I guess back in the days of mall culture it was a good front for worldwide money laundering for drug money

Oh, funny! I just got a NYT notification about Jeffrey Epstein's benefactor.

Ha, I looked at the article and it makes it sound as if Wexner was this plain old rich guy Epstein was taking advantage of. From what I've read about Wexner, he seems to be a global money launderer and Epstein worked for him. He wasn't taking advantage of him, he was his assistant and he got fired. Whatever happened, he should not have crossed Lex Wexner.

I want to know because if we don't know, there's no chance of stopping it--Epstein wasn't working alone.

Who ever is trying to kill Jeffrey Epstein should first practice on Andy Cohen.

Lex Wexner has his name plastered all over the Ohio State University in Columbus. Performing Arts Center, Hospital and more.

Wexner dumped Epstein when his wife found out Epstein was stealing money from them. This was at least 10 years ago.

My roommate went to college with a Chinese (Hong Kong) student whose parents were filthy rich, they had the rights to open The Limited and Express (i think) stores in Asia...I can't remember coz it was at least 20 yrs ago. The student had said the family had met the owner and developed trust somehow, student was basically saying business is all about trust, because the parents didn't have MBAs and all that jazz. They were decent people and became very rich from the business. Kids were all sent to USA to study where my roommate met them. My roommate lost touch with them after college and tried to look them up on social media but they had really common surname so basically impossible.

R102, Trump's alleged rape of a 13-year-old took place at Epstein's NY mansion. If Trump was so possessed of low cunning, the "grab 'em by the pussy" tape wouldn't exist. He's not discreet, he's a thug, who's kept people from talking by threats--mostly legal, but also physical. Ivana's statement has him ripping out her hair before raping her (because the cosmetic surgeon she recommended left his scalp in pain). He was brutal to the 13-year-old because she wasn't giving him a good blow job.

There are dozens of victims who have spoken up about Trump's sexual assaults--ranging from groping to rape. It speaks to the continuing misogyny of our culture that people like you still express skepticism about his abuse of women--when he fucking SAID he did this stuff.

What no one has connected is the tape that surfaced last week on NBC of his appearance on a 90s talkshow. It's shows the footage of Epstein and Trump at Mara Lago. Usually cable channels have been only showing the clip of them together but it is an entire hour of Trump. He really hits on the interviewer throughout the show and admits to sneaking a kiss from her while her husband was in the room. Then the footage shows him grabbing a woman and pulling her next to him. In the footage, he basically grabs her by the butt but pussy isn't too far out of reach. This is basically him demonstrating exactly what he said he did to women on the Access Hollywood tape. Someone needs to edit the two tapes together. Would be strong.

NYT story on the mystery of the Epstein-Wexner relationship.

R115, Rachel showed parts of the interview with the Epstein clip. It’s impressively unpleasant. It shows how Trump enjoys coercing people. The interviewer just sort of laughs and plays along in a fake sort of way as he brags about humiliating both her and her husband. When he talks about wanting to date Princess Diana, there’s an involuntary “Ewwww” from the audience.

Odd that there haven't been any updates? Is he up and around or what?

He's fine, sends his love.

R118, Apologies for the source but it does sound accurate given the condition in which JE was discovered. Correcting my earlier posts, what JE got was exactly how pedo inmates are "welcomed" in jail. There's honor among the worst thieves and murderers.

Oh please. How many times must it be said? If TPTB wanted Jeffrey dead, he would be, end of.

I agree with the poster who explained what a brilliant mind Cohn had, but where I too diverge is that while Roy was indeed mentoring Trump, Trump did not possess and has never possessed self-discipline. Quite frankly, his yuge strategy has nothing to do with sexual assaults under the cloak of his own properties and video cameras (though I’m sure plenty of that occurred). His yuge strategy is he runs around like a fucking five year old grabbing titties and pussies and asses, and then he throws piles of money at various lawyers/fixers to tamp it down. Think of scooping up autumn leaves to put in brown bags. That’s how he scoops up money to deal with his acting out. Like shit, he throws it at the wall hoping it will stick enough to keep his cellulite pale ass out of trouble that’s too annoying for him. That’s IT. There is literally nothing more to how he operates.

And while I’m on a rant, you know what else? I’ve realized that literally *any* of our *finest* candidates can beat him. His only verbal strategy is to bully, intimidate, name-call. That’s it. So what do you do??? You get out in front of his insult and predict what he will say and announce it before he says it while simultaneously telling your audience what a loser he is for his lack of leadership and lack of unity and lack of courage — thereby revealing him to be the weak vagina that he fucking is. It is pretty simple actually. That’s the formula to win. The only art to this science will be not appearing to lower oneself to his level too often while revealing him to be a mother fucking sissy-la-la. Pelosi is a great example of how to do this. From the podium, her language is unifying, respectful, and aspirational. Off the podium, she talks about how he’s not a “real” man, he is a criminal and actually dumb. I apologize for this sidebar talk. It’s hard to leave Trump politics out of a JE thread, so again, my apologies.

If they want Jeffrey dead, he will be. Trust. If I had to put money on it, he won’t be. While evil looms everywhere and the ghouls have come out of hiding, there are numerous good people of great wealth too. And they aren’t all sitting back doing nothing, they have their own ways of fighting back. JE is quite useful to them, and used he will be.

A dead Epstein will prevent all the future document dumps? There is a big unsealing coming up any day now right?

Who fucking knows r122? The scale of behind closed door brawling in our government has reached epic proportions. It’s all about who gets there first now.

Epstein dying (by whatever method) would not affect whether the documents come out. The documents were originally gathered/filed because of the suit between Dershowitz and Giuffre (Boies’s client), in which Epstein was not a party. Recently, a few journalists and Mike Cernovich sued, asking for those documents to be made public. The Second Circuit court of appeals held that the lower court should make at least some of them public, but told the lower court to figure out which ones. What we’re waiting for now is the lower court to make a determination about what to release. Epstein dying would not affect any of this, except maybe making the court less likely to care about negatively affecting his reputation.

Oh good gumdrops r124 — truly. I hope that happens!

If I were either TPTB or Trump or LE I'd want to give JE an intensely strong scare to get him to confess rather than to kill him outright. Let him suffer extreme pain and humiliation as punishment for what he did to countless numbers of children, the full extent of the horror has not yet been revealed on DL.

Exactly how many do you think have been tortured to death under his authority? Evil in human form.

JE was in bed with a lot of super elites.

Guys like him leave "evidence", "blackmail" material to be found in case they die.

I think there is a lot more to come out!

Guys like him leave "evidence", "blackmail" material to be found in case they die.

I think there is a lot more to come out!

Lex Wexner = Madrigal Electromotive

Lex Wexner = Madrigal Electromotive Industries

Anyone (particularly in Hollywood) seen these billboards?

[quote] ....literally *any* of our *finest* candidates can beat him. His only verbal strategy is to bully, intimidate, name-call. That’s it

Al he needs is 77,000 Americans who like that. And apparently about 42% of America likes it.

They don't care.

He "tells it like it is" and "says what he thinks."

And they're thinking the same thing he is.

538 correlates polls and has Trump at 42.5% approval.

Hillary Clinton led Trump by 14 points in October 2016.

Since then we've seen all the women who accused him. America knows he cheats, lies, steals, rates women on a scale of 1-10 despite looking like a fat, diseased troll; doesn't pay taxes because he lost $1B; was bankrupted 6 times; hates our oldest, closest allies; has wanted to fuck has daughter since her adolescence; supports Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Putin & Kim; partied with a pedophile; brags about grabbing women by the pussy; was helped by Russia in the election; is being helped by Russia right now, will be helped by Russia in 2020......oh yeah and he's a racist.

The list of his sins is endless. And 42.5% of America steadfastly supports him. Not 10% or 20%.

In December 2015 Hillary Clinton was said to be going to "trounce" Trump 50% to 40%. Oh, but Hillary was "over prepared." She was "shrill." Meanwhile. the Democratic front runner now is Joe Biden, being told by Eric Swalwell to hand the torch over to the younger generation and who got read to filth by Kamala Harris as a racist.

AOC, Rashid Tlaib and Ilhan Omar are screaming "Experience doesn't pay the bills!" and fighting with party leadership on Twitter. Hillary Clinton was getting laws passed to protect children and trying to fix health care while Liz Warren was still a Republican. But Hillary was a "lousy" candidate and Liz Warren isn't the least bit shrill, right?

When Trump stalked Clinton around the stage like a mad cow in the debates, everyone was sure America would disapprove of such bullying and intimidation, remember?

But yeah, it'll be a cakewalk this time.

Not sure why you're posting in this thread, R133, but your concern has been noted.

Why shouldn't I post in this thread? You just admitted to going on a rant.

Not sure why you think only certain Dataloungers can post in this thread.

A California model claims convicted pedophile Jeffrey Esptein posed as a Victoria’s Secret scout and manhandled her more than a decade ago.

“His weapons were his hands,” Alicia Arden told the New York Times about the alleged May 1997 incident inside Epstein’s Santa Monica hotel room.

Arden, who was then 27 years old, claimed Epstein identified himself as a talent scout for Victoria’s Secret.

He then lured her back to his hotel room under the premise of her auditioning for the brand’s catalog, she said.

While inside the room, Epstein allegedly grabbed her, attempted to undress her and told her he wanted to “manhandle” her, the Times reported.

Arden said she fled and went to police the day after the alleged encounter. Concerned he may be hurting other women, Arden went to the police again a week later and filed a formal report against the millionaire financier.

The report was the first known police record of sexual misconduct against Epstein.

Arden’s allegations came nearly a decade before Epstein was convicted in 2008 in Florida of soliciting an underage girl for sex in a separate case.

not sure if I believe the model, she's kinda old for his taste, when it happened.

I hate to say it but how dumb are these wome to go back to a hotel room for auditions or business meetings?

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Excellent post r139 and I wholeheartedly agree about what’s going on. The big faces of VS don’t get shopped around, and perhaps don’t even fully know what the catalog girls experience. Who knows.....I saw those graphic photos of Bar Rafaeli in the fappening (wasn’t she a VS model too?) and I was somewhat shocked. The photos indicated to me that she was a person used to performing sex acts for money and for whom there were no limits — for customers that is.

Jeffrey Epstein had sex with teenage girls. Sure he raped some of them and everyone of them who was a minor was statutory rape anyway, even if they connected. . However, let's remember the grim fact that all these girls were recruited knowing full well themselves were underage to fuck him, and they were going to get PAID to do sexy massages or have sex with a middle age and then OLD man. I bet he paid everyone on of them, including the rape victims. I'm just muddying the water a bit but of course Epstein IS a slimy monster. Dirty world we live in.

R141, legally speaking, children cannot give consent because they do not have a fully developed brain and therefore cannot assess how their decisions will impact their life, nor how it might alter outcomes. And how many fucking times must this be made, you nitwit? “Muddying” the waters you fucking child rape apologist, eh? Go fuck yourself. What an asshole.

Why was he disgusted by him r13 (aside from the obvious).?

R139, All of VS models escort to the elite. How do you think VS makes their real money, and the actual purpose of the televised fashion shows? Why do they change locations ie did they really need to go to Asia and the exotic island places known for their wealthy playboys?

He's like a stereotypically evil Bond villain

Julie K. Brown, whose Miami Herald reporting led to Jeffrey Epstein’s latest charges, says she’s noticed eerie activity since the news broke.

“Nothing has happened yet,” she tells InStyle of any direct intimidation.

But “the one thing I’ve noticed is that there is definitely something weird going on with my phones and my computer. I’ve been getting incessant FaceTime calls, one after another, from different numbers. I’m talking millions. I answered only one. I hope that means they didn’t hack in … I thought, ‘Who are you? Why are you doing this?’”

R146 It takes guts to do the kind of reporting Brown does. I'm not surprised she's being harassed by Epstein's goons.

I saw her give an interview on MSNBC r146, and while she is clearly an inspirational hero in this story, second only to the girls who were trafficked — she had the personality of a tumbleweed. To the point that it actually made me wonder if there is something just a wee bit off about her. I am sure it’s me, perhaps I’m too used to polished, bombastic talking heads, and yet there was something about her that seemed off just a little bit, I don’t know how else to say it. Maybe I expected some Xena warrior “heroine for female victims” who advocated in a more emotive way, and she was very soft spoken and flat. I felt outraged for the women, but obviously, she’s had this story for years so after a while you become desensitized I’m sure. So reading your post, I again felt a little puzzled — I’m not clicking the link, but did she involve the authorities? One would think that might deter her callers, not to mention the IC would naturally be quite interested in tracing these sources as well. She needs to find her inner cunt, stat.

R148, Perhaps if she acted and talked like a cunt she'd turn off many still believing the horrific situation is being exaggerated, plus she doesn't want to overshadow the hundreds of victims. Much more will be coming out soon.

Yes, you are probably right r148. I am quite anxious to see how this story involved as my gut is that it will make history. But we shall see.

[quote]A judge in New York has granted a request from prosecutors to keep secret documents relating to Jeffrey Epstein’s controversial 2008 sexual abuse plea deal, on the grounds that the materials could hamper their investigation of others in the financier’s milieu. The Jeffrey Epstein scandal

[quote]The documents, which will be shared with Epstein’s attorneys, are believed to concern not only the deal itself, which allowed Epstein to plead guilty to low-level state solicitation charges, but also a clause that granted immunity to any and all potential co-conspirators and named four women suspected of facilitating or participating in alleged crimes against minors.

[quote]In a court filing, prosecutors with the southern district of New York argued that the materials could “affect the privacy and confidentiality of individuals … [and that] would impede, if prematurely disclosed, the government’s ongoing investigation of uncharged individuals”. The order is only one of several signals that prosecutors plan to widen their investigation into what they allege was a years-long scheme to recruit and sexually abuse dozens of girls.

[quote]Epstein, denied bail and remaining in custody pending trial, has pleaded not guilty to federal sex-trafficking charges. He is on suicide watch in a Manhattan detention facility, after being found unconscious with marks on his neck.

[quote]On Friday, it was revealed that pilots of Epstein’s private jets, including a Boeing 727 that carried high-profile friends to and from his home in the Virgin Islands, have been served with subpoenas.

He has needs. At least have Miss Lindzee visit.

R143 well, my husband said Jeffrey Epstein was the most obnoxious and disgusting person he had ever met. This was in 1994 before anything came out about him. He treated his "girlfriend" Ghislaine, very condescendingly, and he had two young models that he was pawing and preening for in order to humiliate Ghislaine. My husband was with a Microsoft executive who was tasked with introducing Jeffrey to technical bigwigs at Microsoft (you can see Charles Simonyi (Martha Stewart's former flame) and Nathan Myhrvold (both very, very rich) at the Billionaire's dinners over the years. Jeffrey Epstein had a apartment building where he let people stay for free (not that they needed that) and he tried to do things that would endear and oblige people to him. Jeffrey stocked the apartment with his idea of junk food, twinkies, coke, twizzlers, just because they were technologists, and my husband was offended.

In the course of the evening, Jeffrey proceeded to put down and insult everyone, and had vile opinions and a smarmy way of expressing things. He was appalled that his acquaintance was friendly with Jeffrey, but he seemed to attract damaged and desperate people.

Wexner isn't the blackmailee, he's the blackmailer. He didnt want to party with these guys, provide them with sex and yachts and whatever. He hired Epstein to do that. He kept his nose clean while Epstein did the dirty work for him. He has estates all over the world, a huge hunting lodge in the UK, eg. How did he get so very rich that he could afford to pay his employee billions?

No doubt he has his own cargo jets bringing his products all over the world. From Asia to North & South America, to UK, AU, etc. He's rich, he donates huge amounts to the campaigns of local, state & national politicians. They make sure his cargo jets don't get searched by customs with a fine toothed comb. He's running drugs . That's where his billions come from. Epstein helps him launder the drugs through real estate, yachts, private jets, etc. He helps Wexner stash his loot offshore.

When someone is that rich they own politicians in countries all over the world. They can hire their own private army, their private intelligence gathering agencies....maybe they buy a business that has a use for satellites. The official intelligence agencies of countries around the world might be funded by him, like the way the CIA bought weapons to wage a secret war in Central America with drug money.

Or maybe he's a front for an official (or more than one official) national intelligence agency. He paid Epstein billions of dollars. He's moving drugs worldwide and running a blackmail ring. He's Mr Big. His "quiet" lifestyle is ideal. I think he'll be painted as a victim by the media who us being fed the story through intelligence agencies. I've no idea what happens to Epstein. But an "elusive mysterious" billionaire businessman )who's a glorified rag pusher) paying billions to a guy who's using sex trafficking to blackmail famous, powerful international figures .....I think he'll walk

Epstein still deserves to rot in jail with the other vermin.

Every gay guy in Columbus will tell you Les Wexner is gay. He didn't marry til age 55 to a respectable heifer half his age, and she bore him four turkey baster offspring.

Wexner's company was very successful and it was public. I don't know what his entanglement with Epstein is about, but I don't think Wexner made his money from running drugs. I knew someone who was way high up at the Limited back in the 90s and never got a sense that the company was anything but legit.

Wexner turned against Trump last year:

Trump passed an Executive Order allowing him to block assets of anyone involved in human rights abuse. That's one reason Wexner may have spoken out.

Now Epstein will have to wear a suicide "smock" - he probably used his pants to faux-strangle himself. Also no more sheets - he will have to sleep wrapped up in a suicide blanket.

I worked (as a physician) in prisons in CA for a few years. Inmates would feign mental illness for housing changes and to get sedating medications (my patients told me that they liked "sleeping" away their time).

A popular trend was conversion to Judaism to get better food (non-prison prepared Kosher meals, bagels even!) and more time out of the cell to celebrate Shabbat and other holidays)

Epstein is a clever man/con artist and he has quickly learned prison tricks to improve his situation.

I love those suicide smocks, r160.

However, It must be humiliating having to have to wear one those things.

This scandal is massive. It goes back to AG Barr's (who has never argued a case in court) father Donald, who hired college dropout JE with no teaching credentials to teach teens at the Dalton School. Donald Barr goes back to the CIA/OSS.

Virtually everything nefarious in the government since Reagan can be connected to DB and JE, and with fewer degrees separation than six. Iran/Contra, e.g.

IMO, JE is and has always been involved with the international trafficking of minors, since they are his "thing" and give him a career in blackmail, but also weapons, drugs (think "The French Connection"), diamonds (IMO blood) (the FBI found many in his safe), and dirty money.

JE knows where all the bodies are buried, figuratively and literally.

He is the conduit, at times the supplier, the spider in the center of a global web, a web that has corrupted and ruined the lives of hundreds of thousands if not millions of the victims of wars and war crimes, drugs, sexual abuse, and corporate slavery in 3rd-world countries.

The money laundry is Deutsche Bank.

Would dying of embarrassment be considered suicide, r161?

maybe wexner got to suk on epstieins dik a lot, explains alot

WSJ:

Jeffrey Epstein Burrowed Into the Lives of the Rich and Made a Fortune

A mysterious do-nothing charity founded by Jeffrey Epstein’s socialite gal pal is being investigated by the FBI for possible links to the convicted pedophile, The Post has learned.

The TerraMar Project was incorporated in London and Delaware in 2012, purportedly to raise awareness of environmental and other issues facing the oceans, and exclusively funded by hundreds of thousands in loans by heiress Ghislaine Maxwell, public filings show.

Maxwell, 57, the daughter of the late British media mogul Robert Maxwell, has been accused by three women of procuring girls to work as sex slaves for convicted pedophile Epstein, according to court filings. Two of the women said both Maxwell and Epstein sexually assaulted them. She has not been charged with a crime.

Maxwell was listed as president of TerraMar, and her Upper East Side home was its official office. She pumped $283,429 into it between 2012 and 2017. In that time, the so-called charity gave out a total of $874 in grants.

Between 2002 and 2005, Epstein used his private jets — dubbed the “Lolita Express” — to shuttle girls for sex between his estates in New York, Palm Beach, Fla., and the Virgin Islands, according to prosecutors.

One girl, aged 19 at the time — whose name appears on the manifests of two Epstein flights in February 2005 from JFK Airport to Columbus, Ohio, and Palm Beach — became a member of the founding board of directors of the Maxwell charity seven years later.

I'm kind of loving that retro 60s quilted bathrobe look, r160.

Don't forget Ghislaine Maxwell's father was Robert Ma well, born Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch who somehow escaped Nazi occupied Czechoslovakia, made it to Britain, joined the Czechoslovakian army in exile, and got weapons from the Czechs and sent them to Israel in 1948, helping Israel win the 1948 Arab Israeli War. When there was the Red Square coup attempt (successful coup, actually) British Prime Minuster John Major said Rbt Maxwell gave him very good information from inside Russia.

Ghislaine wasn't a debutante from the Junior League. Many people said she appeared to be his somewhat exasperated handler, not his girlfriend. Young women said she helped procure teens for Epstein and sometimes engaged in threesomes with them.

What is the endgame here!? Did Epsrein work for the US? Israel? Both? Did he piss off the Russians? Did he work for Russia? It almost seems like there are 2 FBIs - the American FBI and the pro-Russian white supremacy FBI.

Robert Mueller was the strangest witness I ever saw testify before congress. He was deliberately withholding evidence and reading "clarification" of his own statements that were obviously written by AG Barr. Mueller previously delivered WMD lies to congress to justify the Iraq War.

Barr's father gave Epstein his first job, a job he was unqualified for. It seemed Donald Barr was stocking Dalton with informants who befriended the rich and influential parents of students. Alan Greenburg, the father of one student, was "impressed" enough by Epstein to give him a job at Bear Stearns after Dalton cut him loose. Epstein was fired after his mentor Donald Barr resigned from Daltin because he felt Dalton Trustees were interfering with his job as headmaster. Barr claimed to be old fashioned and wanted to be authoritarian, but what kind of old fashioned authoritarian headmaster hires a 20 year old college dropout who wear fur jackets, open shirts and gold chains to his job at an exclusive private school?

It's so convoluted I can't figure out what's what and who's who.

That looks like a moving blanket, r160.

Now all the other inmates can laugh at that pathetic pedo.

I hope he has nightmares about the humiliation he is suffering. He deserves every bit of it.

[quote] while she is clearly an inspirational hero in this story, second only to the girls who were trafficked — she had the personality of a tumbleweed. To the point that it actually made me wonder if there is something just a wee bit off about her. I am sure it’s me,

It is you. You have no idea what you are talking about. Or any idea of how abused women act. Google Flat affect/blunted affect

R148, she’s a reporter. She’s not there to entertain people.

So exactly where is Ghislaine Maxwell today? Is she safely ensconced in a hideaway place in England? Will the Brits at least allow the USA to question her? Is she going to get off scott-free?

What is his condition, and why don't we know anything about what happened? His lawyers haven't even said anything, unless I missed it when searching recent news.

^^THIS^^

I read an article in the NY post, it said the marks on his neck looks like someone choked him...he could have paid someone to choke him etc...who knows?

He was hit with lawsuit one day before he was found injured on the ground.

Jeffrey Epstein got slapped with legal papers in a Lower Manhattan lock-up one day before he was found sprawled in his cell with injuries to his neck, a court filing revealed Monday.

A city official personally handed Epstein a draft lawsuit and related documents filed against him by childhood rape accuser Jennifer Araoz, according to a certificate of service filed in Manhattan Supreme Court.

Deputy Sheriff Qin Zhang described the convicted pedophile and multimillionaire financier as a 5-foot-10, 240-pound, light-skinned man with white hair, who appeared his 66 years of age, the filing said.

Zhang delivered the papers to Epstein around 10:15 a.m. on July 22 at 150 Park Row, which is the address for the federal Metropolitan Correctional Center.

The following day, Epstein – who’s being held without bail on conspiracy and child sex trafficking charges – was found nearly unconscious on the floor of his cell, law enforcement sources have said.

Based on the appearance of the marks on his neck, investigators suspect he was choked by someone else, and they questioned his cellmate, a hulking ex-cop awaiting a death penalty trial in four drug-related killings upstate, the sources said. The inmate, Nicholas Tartaglione, 51, denies any wrongdoing, his lawyer has said.

Araoz, 32, claims Epstein sexually abused and raped her in his Upper East Side townhouse in 2002 and 2003, beginning when she was just 14 years old.

Araoz is seeking to depose Epstein to learn the identity of the young woman who allegedly recruited her outside the Talent Unlimited High School and took part in his “grooming” of Araoz “to be sexually assaulted by Epstein.”

“Now that he has gotten notice and has been properly served with a petition he or his lawyer will now have to appear on Aug. 27 to explain to the court why she shouldn’t order his deposition and why she shouldn’t order him to produce all the discovery we asked for,” said Araoz’s lawyer, Daniel Kaiser.

Araoz plans to sue both Epstein and the recruiter but has to wait until Aug. 14 under terms of the state Child Victims Act, according to court papers.

The law, which Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed in February, lifted a statute of limitations that barred victims of childhood sexual abuse from suing their attackers more than three years after turning 18.

The new law will give victims up to age 55 one year to file suit, regardless of when the alleged attacks occurred.

Court records don’t show whether Epstein has hired a lawyer to represent him against Araoz’s claims, and his criminal defense lawyers didn’t return a request for comment.

[quote]5-foot-10, 240-pound

He's way huger than I imagined.

I won't think someone like Epstein would have a cellmate. I'm not a detective but if you're in prison and have a cellmate and you get strangled, I would assume there are very few suspects. I imagine the cells are not just left open and people allowed to come and visit; strangle and leave. I would also think there would be cameras all over. Something doesn't smell right here.

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Yet the young girls said they had been disturbed by the meetings and kept away from the El Brillo Way property.

One of the girls, who claimed she had been 'molested when I was 12', said she told her friend: 'I'm not going if you're not going to be in the room with me. And I was unaware I was going to be alone with him for that ten minutes and I thought I was going to die.'

Epstein's attorney is yet to comment on the allegations.

No one knows where Jizz is.

[quote]Her whereabouts are unknown.Maybe she’s in the islands, maybe Europe, maybe London.

[quote] saw her give an interview on MSNBC [R146], and while she is clearly an inspirational hero in this story, second only to the girls who were trafficked — she had the personality of a tumbleweed. To the point that it actually made me wonder if there is something just a wee bit off about her.

She a PRINT reporter/journalist. Not everyone is camera ready or wants to be. She seemed normal, not a reality star.

his cellmate is an ex cop. he was questioned. He said he didn't do it.

Jeffrey Epstein was seeking to triple the size of his estate on his private Caribbean island while his legal team was secretly trying to strike a sweetheart plea deal with federal prosecutors in a Florida sex-abuse case, according to a new report.

Permit records in the US Virgin Islands viewed by NBC News show that the multimillionaire financier was pursuing the huge renovation on the 70-acre island near St. Thomas, dubbed Little St. James, in the fall of 2007.

At the time, his lawyers were in negotiations with the feds in Miami who were investigating him for preying on young girls who were recruited to provide him with sexual massages, NBC News reported, citing court papers.

Under a non-prosecution agreement with then-Miami US Attorney Alex Acosta, Epstein served just 13 months of an 18-month sentence — and spent much of his time on work release.

Acosta recently resigned as President Trump’s secretary of labor amid controversy spurred by Epstein’s arrest in New Jersey on July 6 for allegedly sexually abusing dozens of minors at his Upper East Side mansion, as well his mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, between 2002 and 2005.

In November 2007, Epstein submitted a proposal created by Massachusetts-based design firm Maguire Group to transform his 8,124-square-foot island home into a mega-mansion — with a 16,747-square-foot addition, a new pool, a spa and an underground theater, according to the report.

“The alterations to the existing house will include a complete gutting of the kitchen, living room, office and guest rooms 1, 2 & 3, and installation of new roof structures and interiors,” according to the proposal cited by the network.

“The terrace north of the living room will be completely demolished and a new pool will be constructed in its place,” it said.

It was unclear if Epstein was given approval to move forward with all aspects of the upgrade plans.

The records viewed by NBC News at the Department of Planning and Natural Resources headquarters on St. Thomas did not specify whether he was granted a permit for all the work.

Department reps did not return a request for comment by the network.

Epstein, 66, who has pleaded not guilty, faces up to 45 years behind bars if convicted on charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy.

Epstein had started construction work on his bigger island without permits--just kind of ignoring the process. Wonder if he was planning to decamp from New York permanently and just hang out on his islands? It's clear that he knew the heat was on and planning a surprise bust on a private island would have been harder to pull off.

The murderous cop looks like a seriously scary roommate.

I would bet every nickle I have and could borrow that Ghislaine is either dead or in Israel. Either way, she's never to be heard from again...

They need to find Jizzbag and extradite her perv ass back here so she has no choice but to cooperate and flip on Egg-dick Epstein.

Israel doesn't extradite...especially considering she probably followed in daddy's footsteps and works for the Mossad.

Epstein is due back in court...

[quote]He is scheduled to appear at 11 a.m. EDT in Manhattan federal court. Attorneys are expected to specify schedule details that include a trial date. Defense attorneys may also address his detention following his injury a week ago.

[quote]The day before Epstein was hospitalized with neck injuries, he'd been served a new complaint of sex abuse from a woman who said she was assaulted in 2002, when she was 15. The documents said she wants to sue Epstein and a "recruiter" for sexual assault, battery and rape.

[quote]Epstein has been held in the Manhattan Correctional Center's Special Housing Unit since judge Richard Berman denied bail for the 66-year-old financier, citing as reasons a danger to the community and a risk of flight from prosecution. He was arrested at a New Jersey airport July 6 after returning to the United States from Paris.

[quote]Despite the judge's refusal to grant bail, defense attorneys have continued to appeal for house arrest. That appeal may continue at Wednesday's hearing in light of what some believe was a suicide attempt.

Courthouse News' Adam Klasfeld:

Proposed trial date would be June 2020. Four to six weeks, carrying into July.

Prosecutor proposes a discovery deadline of Oct. 31 to complete discovery, with one limited exception.

Proposed trial date would be June 2020. Four to six weeks, carrying into July.

CNN's Shimon Prokupecz:

Proceeding is over. Epstein has no visible marks on his neck. He looks exactly the same as he did the last time he was in court

So egg dick was faking the attack to get out of jail. I'd lock him up in the general pop for that little stunt.

This entitled cunt thinks he should just be allowed to buy or manipulate his way out of charges. Time for him to live like the rest of us and be treated like he is nobody.

I’m glad he’s now known as egg dick. I hope he knows.

Delightfully sensationalistic Daily Beast article about Egg Dick's deranged plot to populate the world with his progeny of supermen:

[quote]Jaron Lanier, a computer scientist regarded as a founding father of virtual reality, said Epstein based his dreams for a “baby ranch” on the defunct Repository for Germinal Choice, a so-called “genius sperm bank” stocked with seed of Olympic athletes and Nobel laureates. According to the Times, Lanier believed Epstein was using his dinner parties to screen candidates to bear Epstein’s children. One transhumanist told the newspaper that Epstein was also interested in cryogenics and that Epstein wanted to have his head and penis frozen.

DL won't let me embed the url so I'll copy it: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-cartoon-villain-wanted-to-start-a-baby-ranch-and-flood-humanity-with-his-dna-report

Never mind, just google: Jeffrey Epstein, Cartoon Villain, Wanted to Start a ‘Baby Ranch’ and Flood Humanity With His DNA: Report

A whole race of men with duck egg dicks?

^^ AND WOMEN !!!! Egg-dick for Everyone!!

" One transhumanist told the newspaper that Epstein was also interested in cryogenics and that Epstein wanted to have his head and penis frozen."

He. should have had them frozen a long time ago...maybe he wouldn't be in such a pickle now!

Epstein was a "serial illusionist" but Pinker saw through him...

[quote]While some of Mr. Pinker’s peers hailed Mr. Epstein as brilliant, Mr. Pinker described him as an “intellectual impostor.” “He would abruptly change the subject, A.D.D.-style, dismiss an observation with an adolescent wisecrack,” Mr. Pinker said.

[quote]At one session at Harvard, Mr. Epstein criticized efforts to reduce starvation and provide health care to the poor because doing so increased the risk of overpopulation, said Mr. Pinker, who was there. Mr. Pinker said he had rebutted the argument, citing research showing that high rates of infant mortality simply caused people to have more children. Mr. Epstein seemed annoyed, and a Harvard colleague later told Mr. Pinker that he had been “voted off the island” and was no longer welcome at Mr. Epstein’s gatherings.

[quote]Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking trial will have a million pages of discovery, including materials on devices seized from his Manhattan mansion, lawyers said today.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-trial-will-have-a-million-pages-of-evidence-lawyers-tell-court

wow, a million pages? The paralegals will be making big bucks for all the paperwork and extra time they have to put in on this case.

For being a psychopathic pedophile eugenicist, he sure did manage to attract a lot of important scientists to his island.

How many famous men had one of his underaged slave girls?

[quote]Epstein has no visible marks on his neck. He looks exactly the same as he did the last time he was in court

So it wasn't that he couldn't talk, but that he refused to? Jackass.

[quote]Drawings supplied by Epstein's architects to the U.S. Virgin Islands agency that oversees coastal development show that it was designed to be a haven for music: an octagonal 3,500-square foot pavilion housing a grand piano. But questions remain over whether it was built according to the plans that were submitted to the Department of Planning and Natural Resources.

[quote]Those 2010 plans, which were part of a permit application that raised concerns inside the agency, included drawings of a building that looks almost nothing like the structure that was built.

[quote]Proposed trial date would be June 2020. Four to six weeks, carrying into July.

And if Trump wins again his first thing will be pardoning him before trial so he won't spill any beans.

The elections not till November

Why is it that these whack job so-called geniuses don't think they should be mere mortals. Epstein joins the ranks with Peter Thiel, Robert Mercer and Larry King, among others. Do they think they should be reanimated so they can spend the rest of their money? They all happen to tend to be conservative.

R205 raises an interesting question. If you had more money than God what would you do with it? Epstein is neither conservative or a genius. He's just a garden-variety narcissistic sociopath.

He has two body parts he wants to be frozen at his death. His brain and his penis. I bet that whole Egyptian like construction on his island has a cryogenic lab inside.

Malignant narcissist asshole.

And a very clever con man.

As Vanity Fair put it, "Of course Trump “fell out” with Epstein over real estate, not underage girls...

[quote]OK, so two unremitting sleazeballs bidding over a piece of prime seafront property in Palm Beach is almost perfectly EpTrumpian. But the singularity is achieved in the story just a few lines later. Four years after he bought the Gosman mansion, Trump sold it to Russian businessman Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, more than doubling his investment.

[quote]Those of you who have been following our story for a while will recall this transaction as having rung a few alarm bells back in 2017, because it seemed fair to speculate that the sale had been engineered to make the president* some bank while giving the Russian oligarch a convenient laundromat for money that had originated in god knows what overseas sewer. From ABC News:

[quote]Wyden, who also sits on the Senate Finance Committee, said in his letter to Treasury Secretary Steven T. Mnuchin that he has questions about the deal, which at the time was considered one of the most expensive house sales on record. Wyden noted the deal emerged at a time when published reports indicated Trump was having difficulty finding banks to lend him money and the sale came just months before Trump Entertainment Resorts filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. “In the context of the President’s then-precarious financial position, I believe that the Palm Beach property sale warrants further scrutiny,” Wyden wrote.

[quote]This speculation intensified in 2018 when Rybolovlev was detained in Monaco on various corruption charges. And, as you may recall, this transaction was only the biggest and loudest of the curious cash real-estate deals between various Volga Bagmen and the president*. But Epstein-to-Trump-to-Russian Oligarch-at-a-fat-profit is a major disturbance in the balance of things.

Have Hillary, Obama, Barbra and Alec Baldwin been mass-arrested yet as leaders of the Deep State?

Ankle-monitors?

Already at Gitmo?

What do all of you QAnon loons think?????

R215 The Esquire article I quoted is about corruption, plain and simple.

JFC, I posted the tumbleweed comment. No shit she’s a fucking print journo — thanks mom! It is shocking how some of you in your zeal to defend victims cannot withstand a simple observation. And my guess is you also assume that I have some veiled apologist agenda. I do not. She does indeed not come across well in interviews, and I suppose one of my thoughts in sharing this observation is that it does indeed shape the PR as we all know there is a fierce campaign being funded by multiple players from their side. Having a strong voice from the side of truth on *TV* would only help. They are using everything to their advantage — interpret that however the fuck you want. I want Epstein to fry not only for the victims, but for how he’s helped empower dirty political players.

Carry on.

Epstein liked to "collect" scientists...

[quote]There’s no cross-talk or conversation between these pairs of guests; it’s more like Epstein has convened two separate interactions for his private entertainment, and these just happen to be coinciding both in time and space. “He would alternate between us,” recalled the professor, who asked that his name not be included in this story. “Sometimes he’d turn to his left and ask some science-y questions. Then he’d turn to his right and ask the model to show him her portfolio.”

[quote] No one seems to know that much about Epstein’s occupation, but there’s little doubt about the ways he liked to spend his time. “I only have two interests,” he once told a longtime friend and former academic. “Science and pussy.”

[quote] Over time, Epstein would build a network for procuring brilliant men. Chief among his fixers was the superagent, John Brockman. (Brockman declined to comment for this story.) When Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, and Steven Pinker flew out to a TED conference on Epstein’s private jet in 2002, their agent Brockman was on board as well. (Pinker’s scanty ties to Epstein have been singled out in recent weeks; he says he only boarded Epstein’s jet because of Brockman.) Roger Schank says it was Brockman who introduced him to Epstein, too. “Everybody goes through John Brockman,” he told me.

Epstein is an object lesson in how vulnerable we all are to being taken in by a grifter.

If Peter Thiel, Mercer or any other Nazi has themselves frozen, I would make it my life’s mission to make sure the power failed to that facility and all its backup generators.

I would feed their semi-frozen heads and bodies to gators in the Everglades.

R219, indeed.

Many times on this board I’ve shared that I had a close friend who ended up being a child predator. In my large circle of friends, not a single one of us had a fucking CLUE. There is no “hindsight” — I am streetwise and (subjectively) booksmart, and there was not a single thing that even made me suspect him on ANY level. And his abuse was occurring right under our noses. The lesson? These predators are so skilled at blending in that you literally won’t be able to spot them. Yes, you too would be snowed. I had to also reconcile my mind around the fact that he was a great friend to me and did a ton of good — so someone evil can still have many facets to them, including the capacity for good. Obviously, they do good to blend in with us, but their good works do affect people positively. It was very difficult for me to wrap my mind around the friend I knew with what he did to his victims, though of course, I’ve made peace with it now. I assure you that Jeffrey’s entire life was built as a facade to hide his sexual proclivities. All the wealthy folks around him would *never* suspect that there is a predator in their midst, never ever.

Sidebar: I don’t believe he’s 240 lbs, at 5’10”????

R221, Except Epstein wasn't hiding it. Thus Trump's comment about his liking women, particularly young ones. And the footage of the party.

People didn't want to see what they didn't want to see--not when he was throwing money at their pet causes and offering rides on his private jet. Some of them maybe didn't know, but people ignore the shenanigans of the rich and powerful--especially when they're big donors.

It's the same way everyone knew about Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey's maneuvers being discussed here for years before they were made public-public.

Oh, I totally agree with you r222, he was very open. But I think we’ve seen footage of him with his guard down with “co-conspirators” if you will. I don’t believe he revealed himself in every single social setting. He likely was a chameleon too. Maybe I’m wrong, and it wouldn’t surprise me if we are *both* correct. People do see only what they want, no doubt,

Epstein's hard up for cash but I thought he was denied bail so why is the article saying he's raising money for bail?

[quote]The sex offender is asking about $3 million for his sleek 2008 Sikorsky S-76 — which, creepily, is outfitted with two “four-person divans” that face each other rather than individual seats, so passengers can cuddle up and he could fit eight on board.

Tell us about it, R221.

Epstein was creepy back in 1980 when this woman answered his ad...

[quote]At the time, he was an obscure finance guy who’d just been featured as Cosmopolitan’s Bachelor of the Month. The magazine personal ad described the 27-year-old trader as a “New York dynamo” seeking “a cute Texas girl.”

[quote]“For someone who was working in finance at the time, he should have been busy,” she added, adding that their calls “weren’t short.”

[quote]“I still remember something he said in that last conversation because it was a bizarre thing… I thought it was a weird thing to say.” According to McLish, Epstein asked her, “Do you like to suck and fuck?”

[quote]That’s when the exchange “went from enjoyable to uncomfortable,” she said. “It was uncomfortable and unwelcome. It went from, ‘Oh, this is a fun conversation’ to, ‘No, this is not something I want to be associated with.’”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/she-responded-to-jeffrey-epsteins-cosmo-ad-for-bachelor-of-the-month?source=articles&via=rss

[quote]Epstein is an object lesson in how vulnerable we all are to being taken in by a grifter.

Not me. Assuming the worst in people is my default. I have often been criticized (just yesterday, in fact) for being too cynical and suspicious, bordering on paranoia. But I can't count the number of times my instincts have been proven right.

There were signs, R221. You just didn't have your radar up. You need to know what to look for. Telling comments, jokes, staring a little too long, "innocent" excuses to be physical (tickling, wrestling, massage), elaborate excuses for lateness/absences, over-compensating "good" behavior. You have to be a keen observer of people. But there ARE subtle and not so subtle tells.

NYT:

Trump Fuels Racial Disharmony. Will It Motivate or Discourage Black Voters?

Serious question here. Why does he not name names of powerful people bigger than him involved? So he can save his own ass.

Serious question here. Why does he not name names of powerful people bigger than him involved? So he can save his own ass.

he likes being in jail

He's waiting for his Oscar moment, r230.

Didn’t Hilary’s Death Choke threat scare him enough?

You QAnons are insane.

[quote] And the footage of the party.

At Maralago? There weren't any under aged girls there. They were cheerleaders for pro football teams.

My husband has a friend I really dislike. He was a neighbor of ours who bought a house with his sister & his brother in law. He's never been married. He never dates. He bought a condo in Disney town because he says he has Peter Pan complex - I.e.. he never grew up. He goes to disneyworld all the time. He watches Fox News day and night and is extremely conservative. He's also racist. I believe he's a pedophile.

R227, I am not saying that every single predator has no tells. What I am saying is that the most intelligent ones are quite adept at masking them.

With the story I shared, I am telling you that there were no signs. There were things in hindsight that took on a different/double meaning, but at the time, there were NO tells. The things he did to hide his abusing made total sense in the context of the situation. I know you want to believe that if you’re just observant enough that you can spot them — well, I don’t want to spend my finite mental energy looking for fucking tells constantly.

The bottom line is to pay attention to men who work with children in any capacity, there must be protocols in place so that they are NEVER left alone with children. Same for women. With men, their victims could be of any age. For women, it’s adolescents. If your gut tells you something is off, listen to it, and consider telling another trusted friend to help you discern if taking formal action is necessary. No adult should be hanging out with teens, it’s just fucking weird. If they are a teacher or pastor or whatever, an occasional connection to build friendship is one thing. But consistently hanging with a teenager? GTFOH.

30 years ago I used to teach at a private college. It wasn't a religious school but had a university chaplain who was a priest. "Father John" loved to massage and give the college boys feet rubs. He was very much beloved by faculty and student alike. The straight college boys loved going to them because he could always get them out of jams or speak with their professors if there was an issue. I once mentioned that I found the fact that he gave feet rubs creepy and more importantly inappropriate. You would have thought that I set a bible on fire and put out the fire by pissing on it. I angered a lot of people and was basically ostracized for several weeks. People know when inappropriate shit is going on but they don't want to really "know" it. Same with Michael Jackson.

Just like the Deplorables **know** that Hillary is the head of the Deep State, a baby-murderess who sacrifices her pizza kids to Baphomet.

Interesting theory about the bizarre blue-and-white striped structure on "Little St. Jeff's"...

[quote]Apparently, a blue-and-white-striped, block-shaped building on it bears no resemblance to the octagonally shaped design that had been approved for a music hall, according to permit records.

[quote]What the structure does resemble, however, is a pharaoh’s headdress. Might this have been intended as a mausoleum for Epstein’s remains? That is, other than his head and penis, which he reportedly wished to have frozen. Also a fan of cryogenics, believing that frozen human parts and bodies could be resurrected in the future, Epstein is no ordinary bloke. Indeed, he is a perversely tragic figure.

[quote]Burdened with suprahuman fantasies and the means to explore them, it seems that Epstein became lost in his own fable. Wandering the skies in his private jet, enamored of his own mind and image, he forgot that he was merely mortal and may have flown too close to the sun.

Maybe we should call him "Ick-arus."

I believe Hillary wore a blue and white striped pantsuit just like that!

A clue!

“In the middle of frantically tweeting out that the El Paso shooting was a coordinated Antifa terrorist attack, QAnon promoter Brenden Dilley's account was suspended by Twitter.”

I wish some of the QAnon loons here get banned by Muriel.

[quote] he is a perversely tragic figure. Burdened with suprahuman fantasies and the means to explore them, it seems that Epstein became lost in his own fable. Wandering the skies in his private jet, enamored of his own mind and image, he forgot that he was merely mortal and may have flown too close to the sun.

No, he's just a sex predator and probably guilty of plenty of financial crimes, too. Let's not romanticize him.

R241 the persona known as “Muriel” is not diligently reading our threads, looking for trolls. He/she/it visited a thread I was on a few months ago. Don’t quote me exactly, I’m paraphrasing all of this, but it confirmed that DL is an organic ecosystem and that in general, there is little to no policing by moderators. DL just rolls, expand and contracts, and they don’t wish to tinker with that much at all.

It stated that it/they are aware of several “celebrity” type members who will never be revealed, but more annoying to them is that they are aware of multiple trolls here who pose as authentic DL members and present themselves as having “inside scoop” and they know for a fact it’s lies because they have their real identity. It affirmed that they believe in the beauty of an anonymous board and so while it’s difficult for them to know when we are being fooled, they won’t touch that — much like Star Trek haha. It shared several other interesting tidbits of information including how they handle Cease and Desist letters, that these are frequently received and that they know for sure that publicists scan our topics, but that they are quite secure in the knowledge that they are protected from liability for what we post about public figures. (Disclaimer — I was not sober and started posting from the last Bob Woodward book the night it came out, the thread was deleted and I was temporarily banned! Obviously they *are* liable for semi-drunk idiots who violate copywrite laws, ahem). And just when I thought it could be a fake Muriel, it said it would answer no further questions and actually closed the thread — it was a dramatic mic drop.

Oh! It also confirmed that many old threads were purged, and said that that doesn’t really matter — if you find something good here, be sure you copy it. It also said things about how DL is essentially the only unmoderated board out there, and that they want to keep it this way as they view this as important freedom.

I got the feeling that Muriel is several people, all of them have actual real jobs and only periodically check in here to deal with occasional hiccups and the like. Also, I was buzzed on that thread, but I believe Muriel said that it had purged the board of several trolls and named their locations (Brazil was one) but emphasized that the trolling will accelerate as the election draws near, I believe it also said they were tossing around ideas on some new strategy for dealing with trolls.

Though it was not confirmed in the thread directly, my guess is that allowing us to authenticate again is one prong of a multitude of strategies they may introduce this year to battle the trolls. Anyhoo, we will see how they choose to handle the trolls and loons, I hope they don’t blow it off. This post was all for r241 btw.

R243 Trolldar tells us that R241 is the actual troll because the rants are 1) off topic, 2) bullying, 3) ideological, 4) repetitive and 5) pleading to Muriel to ban people and/or close the thread. Don't waste your breath.

Thank you r244.

Just in time...

[quote]The long-shot effort by Jeffrey Epstein, an accused sex trafficker, to win release from jail on bail by promising to personally pay for security to monitor him got even tougher Thursday with a new federal appeals court decision, which blasted such cushy arrangements in most cases.

[quote]The ruling in the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals “expressly” bars a “two-tier bail system” in which “wealthy defendants are released to self-funded private jails” while “defendants of lesser means are detained pending trial.”

[quote]“Such a two‐tiered system would ‘foster inequity and unequal treatment in favor of a very small cohort of criminal defendants who are extremely wealthy,’ ” the ruling by a three-judge appeals panel said.

R236, I have a child-free, troll-looking neighbor who volunteers his time on camping trips as an assistant Boy Scout leader. None of my other neighbors said they would've let him anywhere near their own kids. He's a total, inconsiderate jerk and has violated many condo complex rules. Bragged about having to leave NY due to his "minor" criminal activity.

I posted this on DL when I found out about his Boy Scout associations. All I got in return was extreme dissing and flack from posters. Ironic the attitude towards pedos on DL has now changed.

I'm hoping this resurrection of the Epstein rapes is because someone knows Donald Trump was involved in them.

Ew, look at that ugly Joker faced creep, Jeffrey in the photo at R248. Imagine this delusional freak actually thought he should populate the world with thousands of his spawn.

Gross, his mouth looks like a bloody gash with dentures stuffed in it. Ugly motherfucker.

Same question- Why does he not seek to throw more powerful pedophiles in his ring to authorities to lighten his sentence?

R251, he has Manafort Syndrome. He’s gotten away with everything so far; it’s inconceivable to him that he’ll be held to account for his crimes.

[quote]Same question- Why does he not seek to throw more powerful pedophiles in his ring to authorities to lighten his sentence?

For one thing, it will get him killed. For another, he's at the top of the pedo heap, so to speak, so his sentence isn't likely to be lightened no matter what. Not to mention, any info against anyone powerful from the right will be scrubbed by Barr.

Fundamentally, that plea deal Acosta arranged for Epstein was on shaky ground which is why he's now in the hoosgow.

[quote]The US Attorney's Office produced a 53-page indictment that was abandoned after secret negotiations between Mr. Epstein's lawyers and Mr. Acosta. The State Attorney's Office was not a party to those meetings or negotiations, and definitely had no part in the federal Non-Prosecution Agreement and the unusual confidentiality arrangement that kept everything hidden from the victims," Krischer wrote. "If Mr. Acosta was truly concerned with the State's case and felt he had to rescue the matter, he would have moved forward with the 53-page indictment that his own office drafted." Acosta "should not be allowed to rewrite history," Krischer concluded.

[quote]Krischer wasn't the only one to find issue with the labor secretary's press conference or the details surrounding his lenient plea with Epstein. As former federal prosecutors watched Acosta explain his reasoning for striking the deal, they also noticed major red flags. Barbara McQuade, a former US Attorney and law professor at the University of Michigan, emphasized to INSIDER that while she's typically reluctant to second guess prosecutors, especially without knowing all of the facts of the case, "there are some things in this case that are really irregular that cause me some concern."

[quote]"I think Acosta put on a master class in blame shifting," added Elie Honig, a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York. "His first target was the state attorney. There's a bit of a back-and-forth between the two of them as to who's telling the truth, but it doesn't really matter. If you are a federal prosecutor, it doesn't really matter if the state prosecutor did a good job or a terrible job. You still need to do your job as a fed."

wow, I looked at the legal age in other countrys, ,,,,often its 16 or even younger.....strange

Damn Acosta looks pervy

R247 Sometimes people don't believe you because they've never experienced the situation. My dad was a pedophile. I sense it everywhere, like a geiger counter. A friend's kid was in a big Christian theater organization. I warned her to always attend rehearsals, pay attention, and never fully trust any adult involved with the group. She laughed. Two years later, she told me one of the major directors had been asked to leave. Quietly. Because he was caught abusing a boy. She said to me, "How did you know?" If it's a kids' organization and there's little to no supervision, it's happening.

r257, What are some of the things that you notice when your geiger counter goes off? (Sorry to hear about your father. That must have been tough)..

They want to be around kids who are not their own and prefer the company of children/teens to adults. They love to tell everyone they're just a "big kid" at heart, never grew up and have Peter Pan syndrome 🤮. Involved in kids activities: coaching, Boy Scouts, youth ministry, even though they don't have any kids themselves. Directing movies with lots of kid characters.

Grooming behaviors--hosting parties for kids with unlimited pizza, candy, video games, porn, etc. Offering drugs, alcohol, expensive gifts, money. Giving money to poor kids' parents.

[quote]Gov. Ron DeSantis has directed the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to take over a criminal investigation into the case of multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, who pleaded guilty 11 years ago to state prostitution charges and split his short sentence between jail and work release.

[quote]Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw requested the state take over the criminal inquiry and said his office will continue to handle an internal review of how his deputies handled the detention of Epstein, who now faces federal charges of conspiracy of sex trafficking. Bradshaw wrote to DeSantis that the public interest would be served by an FDLE investigation into the aspects of the case, from sentencing to Epstein's time in jail.

[quote]"Floridians expect and deserve a full and fair investigation," DeSantis said. In a letter to the commissioner of the FDLE the governor also asked for the agency to take a preliminary look into "matters beyond the work release and into other irregularities concerning the case's disposition." DeSantis assigned the case to the state's attorney's office in a neighboring district to Palm Beach County.

"They want to be around kids who are not their own and prefer the company of children/teens to adults. They love to tell everyone they're just a "big kid" at heart, never grew up and have Peter Pan syndrome"

Can you start posting this on the twitter accounts of Michael Jackson defenders? Thanks.

This directly relates to what R257 and R259 are saying.

[quote]Saying something when you see something—the post-9/11 adage about terrorism—should also apply to the sexual abuse of underage girls.

[quote]“There were all these girls,” French told The Daily Beast this week. “A little bit older than my daughter. Not much.” French made what seemed at the time to be a completely reasonable assumption. “I thought, ‘Oh, these must be his daughters and friends he took along on the trip,’” French recalled. She did not know at the time that Epstein had no children.

[quote]The girls took the papers, which described properties that French thought might interest Epstein. He had told her he was seeking isolation. “He wanted really far away from people,” French recalled.

[quote]No doubt people at the airports and ranch workers and folks in town saw the girls. But nobody seems to have contacted the authorities even after the news broke in July 2006 that Epstein was being charged in Florida with having sex with underage girls.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-new-mexicans-saw-young-girls-with-him-as-he-shopped-for-his-baby-ranch

R258, what R259 wrote can be accurate. But it's not necessarily specific things. Let's just say I'm hyper-vigilant and observant. I was out surfing recently and saw an older guy chatting up two young girls in the water. He was totally focused on them, with his back to the wave (a no-no). He never stopped watching them and took every opportunity to paddle back up to them and yuk it up. One of the girls looked to be 14. What normal man does that? Let's just say, if I had kids, I'd be wary of religious activities, sports activities, or anything where a man hangs out with a bunch of kids. Women can abuse too, but my experience was with my father-- who didn't like children, by the way.

Men are dicks??

Leslie Wexner, the billionaire who empowered Epstein for years, claims that he's just another victim, and that Epstein stole "vast" sums of money from him.

NYT: JPMorgan kept Jeffrey Epstein as a client despite internal warnings

The greedy, gutless scum like Staley and Erdoes at JP Morgan and executives at Deutsche Bank who enabled Epstein despite warnings should be taken down with him.

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[quote]With titles like “SlaveCraft: Roadmaps for Erotic Servitude – Principles, Skills and Tools” and “Training With Miss Abernathy: A Workbook for Erotic Slaves and Their Owners,” the evidence appeared as part of a lawsuit by Virginia Giuffre against alleged Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell.

I'm sure those books about BDSM sex play were not written for sex-traffickers and their actual sex slaves.

Thanks R268, that's the crux of a very serious set of criminal charges.

AP:

Documents: Epstein ducked sex abuse questions in deposition

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George Mitchell and that Gov Richardson guy? Poor girls. I remember the Clintons hated him for some reason.

The Randy Andy claims seem pretty solid. That photo backs it up. I wonder if the Palace will have anything to say?

Unsealed flight logs show that Trump was on Epstein's private jet in 1997

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"Unsealed flight logs show that Trump was on Epstein's private jet in 1997"

Didn't he claim they never talked after 1992 or something?

CUNT IS DEAD!!! HE KILLED HIMSELF!!!

If you don't succeed then try again. He got it right the second time.

That's bullshit!

Goddam it! Why do these scum always wriggle out of punishment?

Murdered

cunt was murdered! don't no one try commit suicide then gits placed on non suicide watch.

MURDER

MURDER

Incompetence at the jail? Whatever. The scumbag got off easy.

Trying again

Where’s Jizzbag Maxwell?

who u reckon killed him?

mossad? Clintons hit men? Saudi prince ?

all.....

[quote] At 6:30 a.m. on Saturday, guards doing morning rounds found him dead in his cell. Mr. Epstein, 66, had apparently hanged himself.

[quote] TThe law-enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation said that when the decision was made to remove Mr. Epstein from suicide watch, the jail informed the Justice Department that Mr. Epstein would have a cellmate and that a guard “would look into his cell” every 30 minutes. But that was apparently not done, the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the death was still under investigation.

[quote] The city’s chief medical examiner, Dr. Barbara Sampson, announced on Sunday night that her office had conducted an autopsy of Mr. Epstein, but she declined to release a determination about the cause of death. She said a private pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden, who was hired by Mr. Epstein’s lawyers, had observed the autopsy examination. The medical examiner is confident the cause of death is suicide by hanging, but she wants more information from law enforcement before releasing her determination, a city official said.

[quote] Senior law-enforcement officials, members of Congress and Mr. Epstein’s accusers have all demanded answers about why Mr. Epstein was not being more closely monitored.

[quote] Mr. Epstein’s death has also unleashed a torrent of unfounded conspiracy theories online, with people suggesting, without evidence, that Mr. Epstein was killed to keep him from incriminating others. Over the years, Mr. Epstein’s social circle had included dozens of well-known politicians, business executives, scientists, academics and other notables, including President Trump, former President Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew of Britain and Leslie H. Wexner, the retail billionaire behind Victoria’s Secret and Bath & Body Works.

[quote] Investigators are expected to focus intensely on the timeline of what happened in the period after Mr. Epstein was found semiconscious less than three weeks ago in a shared cell, with bruises on his neck, after a judge denied him bail. He was placed on a 24-hour suicide watch and received daily psychiatric evaluations, the law enforcement official said. But six days later, prison officials determined he was no longer a threat to his own life and put him in a cell in the protective housing unit with another inmate, a prison official familiar with the incident said.

[quote] It is standard practice at the Metropolitan Correctional Center to place people who have been on suicide watch with a cellmate, two people with knowledge of Mr. Epstein’s case said. The theory is a cellmate can provide company to someone who may be suicidal, helping them stave off depression, and can also alert guards in an emergency. But Mr. Epstein’s cellmate was moved out of the protective housing unit, leaving him alone, the prison official said.

[quote] Bureau of Prison officials said it is standard procedure for guards in protective housing units to check on inmates every half-hour. It remained unclear why that procedure was not followed in Mr. Epstein’s case. Like many federal prisons and detention centers, the jail has been short staffed for some time, union leaders have said.

[quote] Eric Young, president of the national council of union locals that represents guards at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, said there were cameras in hallways and common areas, but not in the cells of the unit where Mr. Epstein was being held. “From the moment you walk onto that property, you are under camera surveillance, ” Mr. Young said, adding that there should be video evidence of when the last checks were made and of anyone who approached Mr. Epstein’s cell.

[quote]“I can tell you it is unequivocal that he was in a cell by himself,” Mr. Young said. “I can tell you Epstein didn’t have anyone in the room with him when he committed suicide.”

Contrary to what some conspiracy theorists are saying, Epstein's death makes it easier to nail his accomplices, not harder...

wow, it seems Jeff has great timing...he just knew when to hang himself...he knew the guards won't be coming around to check on him that night!

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R289, JE also knew that the cameras supposedly recording everything outside his cell wouldn't be working correctly. He also knew that his previous cellmate would be removed the day/night beforehand so that he would be alone.

JE also knew that TPTB would use facial recognition techniques to find a dying bum who was a close double despite having a different looking inner ear and hair texture. Shall I continue?

It seems the MSM have conveniently forgotten Trump is associated with him. They are outraged Trump is blaming Clinton but I haven't heard one person saying he is deflecting from his own involvement.

R292 exactly

#289, or when to escape?

Epstein's value is zero. I believe he was a govt asset. He was killed. He became a liability to many powerful people.

Now...Maxwell must be shaking in her boots. She might off herself too.

shit its so obviously a murder.....gimme a break. he had the goods on so many big names, they all wanted him suicided. happens all the time in prisons....guards are bored, corrupt underpaid workers. they turn their head for a hundred bux.

I'll be they turned their head for far more than a hundred dollars. Would be interested to see in a couple of years if either of them made a big purchase like a new car or house.

So will anyone in particular destroy anything incriminating against their boss?

15 Is legal in much of the world.

weird, ……….Europe laughs at us.

Why so many people say Wexner is gay? how does that fit into epsteins thang? hmmmmm