Ballum from EastEnders - Ben and Callum, New Gay Soap Couple

Ben said tonight that he was giving up on Callum because he's 'too much trouble'.

We already have TWO threads, OP. Would be nice if we could decide on which one to use.

The other thread was started first and has more replies, we should use that one.

Is this the new thread since the other one closed? Or can we use the Ben Mitchell one?

What an episode!!

What an episode!!

So much hoeing!

It looks like Ben and Callum will start dating now.

DL really does hate these threads.

Muriel thinks they can make money off these threads. BTW What is Muriel's preferred pronouns?

Ballum or Robron?

Being back Kelvin.

Lots of thicc women for him.

R10 I'm with Lance & Cole.

Team Tylo all the way.

We had a pleasant duff duff with Jack, Kush, Keegan and Mick all sweaty and anxious grappling for Hunter’s gun.

He's always going to be Halfwit.

I don’t know whether he deserves to be outed or not. In any case, Whitney shouldn’t have to lie for him. She can say Halfwit cheated and not say with whom.

[quote] DL really does hate these threads.

Well, there's now at least SIX threads by my count. Lots to hate.

This is the only one that's not for subscribers

I don't think they should be a couple - Ben is an evil little shit, Callum is a sweet boy. I think he should be with someone 5-10 years older who will treat him well and mentor him in the ways of the gays.

Another sweet guy would find Callum too much of a drip.

His dopeyness is a novelty to Ben.

Who are the halfwits who keep bumping the long abandoned subscriber threads? Probably butt hurt Coronation Street fans.

An Irish magazine that is not embargoed had pictures of Ben unconscious in hospital. The accompanying script said that “Phil is frantic”, which is certainly out of character. It could be that during all the fuss over the siege Ben leaves the pub and in the confusion Stuart takes another pop at him.

This could encourage Callum to come out.

Mick should leave his drunk wife for Callum. He's an older daddy which Callum apparently needs.

I’m enjoying Drunk Linda. I wish it would be continued to be played for laughs.

I appreciate how all the “issues” - Islam conversion and sexuality, men’s mental heath, women’s alcoholism - are subplots and the primary focus of the show is drama, romance and tragedy.

Sonia Jackson , Queen of the NHS saves the day .

Actually shocked that Phil was more concerned about dying Ben than preg Louise.

That whole scene with them in the bar and Callum holding Ben's head was corny fuck. Just terrible done.

^^^ LOL! .. And make sure the camera gets tons shots of plaintive Whitney realizing they're in wuv.

Sounds so bad I have to watch it!

Digital Spy have picked up on Ballum

Digital Spy seems to have missed Bianca telling Kat the reason she was in prison.

I'm glad the mentioned the prospect of Leo.

Cunter killed? Good.

I hope Leo is the new bisexual and not Dotty.

Maybe he fucked Bianca AND her man?

Leo is the grandson of Dot Cotton from an illegitimate daughter she had back in the day.

It would be like Tiff to be attracted to a bisexual.

Too bad Kunter couldn't have taken out Denise before biting the dust himself.

Love this gif from Callum’s wedding day.

Max takes a boy? It sounds like Bobby will be moving in with him.

Lee Carter is returning for a short stint.

And Danny-Boy Hatchard isn’t a stage name, who knew?

Lee Carter is returning for a short stint.

And Danny-Boy Hatchard isn’t a stage name, who knew?

Is EastEnders any good? Worth watching?

Better back in the 80s. A little tiresome now but I still watch it religiously, as did the Queen Mum.

The 80s are overrated .

Callum reviews replies to his new CrusAdr profile?

I wish Johnny would come back for a few episodes. The original one, not the last fugster.

R40 since the new producers episodes started screening in January it has experienced a renaissance and is currently the best British soap.

I still find it hit and miss. You'll get a storyline that is good and then you don't see it again for days. So you have to watch uninteresting crap hoping for it to pick up again .

R44 The original one is pretty fugster now too.

He truly looks like the son of Danny Dyer.

He never really read young, up-and-cuming solicitor. At least Ted was somewhat more convincing on that front.

And the ink is just tragic.

We'll need another NuJonathan.

FugLee is returning to pester Whitney. In reality, a girl that good looking wouldn't be fugging out with dyed red hair and messing with the likes of FugLee, Halfgay and Mick, she'd be dating the Grays of this world.

Why are Gray and Chantelle's children so dark skinned? They look as if they should be Karen and Mitch's kids. Chantelle is Meghan Markle pale. Her children with Gray would have straighter hair and be almost white.

Their skin tones are one thing but Thandie Newton’s daughters are 1/4 black and are brown with afros. It’s not unusual at all under such circumstances. Such children can either look totally white or obviously mixed race.

Who knows about the paternity of Sharon’s baby? Sharon, Keanu, Karen and Billy?

Dunno.

[quote]Better back in the 80s. A little tiresome now but I still watch it religiously, as did the Queen Mum.

Apparently Camilla watches. It’s miles better than it was last year.

Lance & Cole know. They could give a fuck and call the baby "Shamu."

The nadir for EE came in 2017 with Sean O'Connor, who tried to turn the show into a comedy, with an emphasis on communal gatherings like choirs, plays and the local school.

R55, yes. It really is a far cry from that.

If we wanted community spirit we’d watch Corrie which is a Restoration Comedy. EastEnders is a Greek Tragedy.

You'd think Mel would have Hunter cremated so she could keep his ashes on her nightstand, forever.

R58 Should have him taxidermied .

After the excitement of wedding week it’s getting boring again.

Callum is having a meltdown when Whitney returns him from the honeymoon with a new man, and picks a fight with Ben.

I knew Whitney would turn up with a new man. In the past two years she's had Lee Ryan from Blue, FugLee, Mick Panic Attack, Halfgay, and now another guy? In reality, hot would have gravitated to hot, and she would be dating Kush.

Hot gravitating to hot, haha. Kush wouldn’t put up with her shit. He wouldn’t cater to Whitney’s domestic Frau fantasies.

Bernie needs to be written off now there are hot lesbians on the scene.

Callum’s outing was very anti climactic. I wanted more angst in the square.

Callum Kush Ben threesome!

[quote] After the excitement of wedding week it’s getting boring again.

That's how I feel. e.g. The kid playing Bobby is a good actor, but I'm not interested in this storyline at all - unless he were going to become Max's boy to drive Ian crazy - and that ain't happening.

R62 I've thought for awhile now that Whit and Kush should be a thing. Perhaps it will happen now that she has a stall l in the market as well. They looked good as "Belle" and "Gaston" in the Children in Need video last year.

R64 Why would the people on The Square care if Callum is gay, though? Most of them have LGBT in their own family. Similarly, many of ttem have cheated themselves. Meanwhile, Callum's brother, Stuart, already knew, so not much there, especially since they're on a mission to redeem him. They might be saving some angsty stuff for outsider homophobe, Jonno.

Does Keegan not realise that sandwiches for lunch ought to be sold in offices and not on the streets of Walford which is already serviced by a pub, a cafe, an Asian-fusion restaurant, a fish and chip shop, an Indian restaurant, a chicken shop and a gay bar?

How long before some man on the street offers Keegan 20X what a bacon butty costs for some time with his own?

Awkward first date at E20.

They should have had them go to The Prince Albert, so that some other guy could hit on Callum before Ben arrived, and then later, one of Ben's hook-ups would wander over to say, "Hi."

Kathy gets on my tits.

Excuse me, Ben.

But Lance & Cole are NOT working the late shift at The Arches for you.

They have plans to attend a private birthday party at Ku Klub and need time to go shopping for new designer jock straps to wear.

Sick of Jean and the Ted/Patrick/Sheree storyline.

It’s getting booooring again. Chantelle and Gray can’t act. Sick of spazzy Callum.

Worst part is Mel, Lisa and Sharon . I hope they all die soon .

[quote] Chantelle and Gray can’t act.

Yeah, that's the downfall of the story for me.

R74 Totally agree on both counts.

I'm also sick to death of Rainie and Stuart.

Don't care about Bex's "issues."

Don't buy Jack and Denise.

Max and Ruby can both exit now.

The Honey-Adam-Habiba material should have been over last month.

I'll take more Leo, though.

oh-oh

I’m guessing it will Keegan who beats Gray within an inch of his life, gives up his sandwich business and finishes his A Levels.

Major FAIL for FugEnders on Raine's drug withdrawal symptoms. You don't get hellish Trainspotting type withdrawals like that after a few weeks on prescription painkillers, or everyone with a 6 week script for a bad back would end up quadrospazzed and screaming once they finished the tablets.

It’s more that she’s relapsed and is suffering due to her previous and ongoing addiction and not just this last round of oxy.

't’s more that she’s relapsed and is suffering due to her previous and ongoing addiction and not just this last round of oxy.'

Nope, she was at least a year out from taking heroin and even drinking alcohol. Her previous addiction would have no impact on how bad her withdrawals form a few weeks of what probably amounted to no more than 15mg codeine tablets or low dose Tramadol (they won't prescribe stronger than that for a back ache or whatever).

By the way, doctors here don't prescribe any of the Oxys for home use. It's different strengths of codeine or Tramadol.

Yes, R81, it distracts from the show's otherwise realistic portrayal of everyday life in the East End of London.

I agree with pretty much all of what R77 said.

I hate the Rainie and Stuart coupling, it makes sense based on the fact that literally no one else would go for either one of them so they pretty much HAVE to put them together. But I don't want to see any scenes with them, they kind of make me ill.

Jack and Denise have absolutely zero chemistry with each other, which makes their relationship very difficult to buy into. I think they only put them together because they have both fucked every other potential prospect.

I can't stand Ted and really think he needs to fuck off.

I must have missed Ballum's date, did they fuck after?

R83, Ballum won't fuck for weeks, as Oates seems to be going for the slowest burn ever in the history of soap. Ben has been recast as the sexy, violent gay villain with a heart of gold, like a character from a Jake Arnott novel. I do prefer it to his previous incarnations.

Mel and Mrs Lard are pretty unrealistic with all their talk of King Fug killing either Keanu or Sharon if he finds out about the baby. He really doesn't seem capable of that. How will Sharon raise the cash? A remortgage of the house might do it? Victorian terraced houses in Zone 2 are worth at least 500k these days.

Denise and Jack are the most unconvincing match ever. His type was always statuesque blonde women, not short black women. He would have tried courting Mel again.

Ted and Sheree's mother seem set for a long odyssey, so at least we'll see the back of him.

Chantelle is being carefully portrayed as an endearing, very generous, kind and forgiving character. With her natural curls and sweet face, she is meant to be adorable, with the intention of making her upcoming murder at the hands of Gray all the more upsetting for the viewers (prob not for us cynical DL-ers though).

I think they're going for a murder or possibly she'll be in a coma for months. Mitch and/or Keegan might rescue her.

While they've been trying to build a Mitch v. Gray dynamic, I think it would be the more believable if Karen were the one to rescue Chantelle. She has bigger balls than useless Mitch and young Keegan combined.

I should add that, before Gray is exposed to everyone, I hope he finds time to murder Mitch. .. Karen and Keegan will, of course, try to keep Bailey, but social services will get involved and after studying her situation, they'll convince the two of them that Bailey is such a special, gifted child that she would flourish with a family that can provide the type of education she deserves, so she'll exit as well.

btw - Dennis looks like he grew a foot and half over the Summer.

Ballum finally snogged tonight, but Callum pulled away because he's still angsty over Whitney. Phil caught them kissing and seemed okay, then came over homophobic and swore to ban Ben from kissing his bfs anywhere near a suddenly very tall Denny.

😱

What did someone call her last thread? "Horror Child Bailey"?

R88, that was a good story line.

Ted's gone... Adam's going...

I'm going to being as well if it stays so boring.

A No-Deal Brexit will do havoc to Phil's criminal enterprise. So much for kicking Keanu into Ireland or sending Ben to Portugal or sending Shirley to Italy with a bag of money.

[quote] A No-Deal Brexit will do havoc to Phil's criminal enterprise.

I was waiting for Sharon to mockingly ask Mel, if moving to Portugal was the smartest thing to do right now.

[quote] Ted's gone... Adam's going...

Has there been confirmation that Ted is actually gone for good? Spoilers indicate Denise will be looking into whether he's in danger from "black widow" Wanda. Is know-it-all Denise ever wrong?

The actress who plays Bernie posted a goodbye to him on Twitter. Maybe he'll come back in a few years for a 3 episode stint for her next chess tournament.

Christopher Timothy is a good actor with nothing to do.

If Adam is leaving then that's just a story line left unfinished. A very sloppy way of writing.

Re: Adam ... What's there to finish besides Honey finding out and the love rat being exposed and kicked to the curb by both women with The Ahmeds telling Adam he's no longer welcome at their table?

This storyline line is long past it's sell-by date now. It could easily be wrapped up in two or three episodes, imho. They played "Wanda" in four episodes to accomplish Ted's exit.

Phil will find human trafficking a lot more difficult after BREXIT. The lorries are far more likely to be searched at Dover and the other ports.

I'm hoping that horror child Bailey might be an accidental casualty of Gray's rage. She really is like the MOMO doll, unbearable.

Oates is dragging out the Ballum relationship forever. Fuggo Stuart has now deterred Ben from pursuing Callum yet again, and we are set for weeks more misunderstandings and delays. Non stop edging from Oates.

Yasssss Ballum.is official! Callum came out as gay to the entire Queen Vic and Phil punched Callum's homophobic dad in the face after he called Ben a 'nasty faggot'.'

Since Denise is so disinterested, lets have Jack start a workplace affair with DCI Lawyler.

Ballum was trending on twitter last night.

I hope the nightclub incident that Detective Jack questions Gray about is a gay hot spot.

Unless Ben were running a network of hot, gay criminals à la UK Naked Men's "Fuck Loving Criminals," series, then his gangster wannabe shtick that they keep peddling is boring.

Is Fuck Loving Men on the BBC?

They should think about adding it to BBC3. It would probably prove very popular.

How many times have they given us Ben getting beat up and doing that goofy smirk while it's going on?

Robbie is such an unnecessary character, but apparently Gaffney was axed for bad conduct. He only a few weeks left on his contract anyway.

[quote] Bosses terminated his contract after we revealed claims that he contacted a random girl online and asked her for pictures of her boobs and bum.

Robbie was a minor character by now but an long standing one. Sorry to see him go. Such a minor infraction. I vaguely remember some other misdeed some time back. He's a bit randy. So what!

Minor character is one thing, but generally annoying is another. .. But I agree, the infraction seems so minor.

It's a minor infraction , the BBC had no problem hiring a convicted murderer.

R102 speaking of Twitter, I took a quick look and the Ballum fandom is psychotic and populated by angry women fighting with each other.

R112 What are they doing ?

Ugh ... so all the insane Robron stans looking for something new have arrived?

Enough of the Rainie crap. Could care less whether she gets to be a mum to Abi, Jr. or Uncle Fester is in love with her.

If it hadn't been for snarky Dotty and sexy Leo, Tuesday's episode would have been a total waste.

The two bisexual guys should hook up.

Gray and Leo, that is.

It would be an intense flip-flop as they jockey to be on top.

I'm kind of over Ballum now. Needs more cheating.

R117 Watch Pobol y Cwm, the Welsh soap on BBC/S4C. .. Tyler just cheated on his husband, Iolo, with the 17-year old boy who used to be his student who's been targeting-pursuing him.

I'll tell you what I'm tired of. .. Ben Mitchell: Wannabe Gangster.

At this point, maybe Martin should reconsider Sonia.

I hate Been Mitchell.

Too bad Martin didn't toss his ass over the bridge when he had the opportunity.

I'm still wondering if Ben will be the murder victim for the upcoming Christmas/New year's special episodes. Sure hope so!

Has Ted's dead body turned up yet, floating downstream towards Walford?

That's a Big-Un @ r119 !

R120 Yeah, I hate him too, And he's not even convincing (say, like Brendan Brady). I start to laugh when he tries to act all 'threatening.' And if he wants to be this morally reprehensible, then he should have just accepted the sports car and stuck with Luke Browning.

is the guy who played Luke gay IRL? I couldn't find anything about him

R124 Yeah, he's kind of a mystery. When he was on Holby City, he played gay there too.

Recent theatre production; he's going full daddy.

damn he was so hot on EE

Did you watch Astill on Holby, R126? The BBC had to defend the big, *rough* gay kiss that eventually forced his "Dan Hamilton" character to come out of the closet. The other doctor in the scene was the hospital's lead surgeon, Antoine Malick, who was the openly-gay, cock of the walk at the hospital.

The action starts around the 52.40 mark.

Nipple tweaking!

Ballum fan art! Ben seems unrealistically short. Big snogging session last night but the actors didn't make it look that convincing.

🖼 👬

Martin should take revenge on the vile little thug by seducing Callum. He's more his size anyway.

Thos is what Kate Oates wanted, the shipping and Larrying.

Balllum twitter

Run by a frau, no doubt

Yep, fraucentral, alright.

Too bad Kush is still tethered to Kat. Martin could have told Stacey that he and Kush are now an item.

Ben’s personality transplant has been so poorly written. He’s become too villainous and I have absolutely no interest in seeing him paired with Callum. They’re a total mismatch. Sad! x

I am sick to death of the Ben and Martin sage. Ben looks short and square to me now, too, with a fat face. He is fugging out in the same way Niall Hogran from One Direction has. Too many Greggs.

Sadly, I have to agree, R137.

And they certainly have nothing to do with why I'm continung to watch.

R139 I’m hanging on for the inevitable Sheanu reveal over Christmas. Bound to be juicy! x

Gangsta Ben is unintentionally funny. But I like Max Bowden's performance overall.

Anyone else think Ben is fugging out? The inevitable curse of FUGENDERS.

Pretty average to begin with.

Ben has become fatter and balder.

... .......

R145, yes - he looks stocky and square with a double chin. Not what Oates had in mind when she hired him.

Waterloo Road Max.

he's turning into Phil in both looks and how he acts

The funny thing is that you know that Martin could pick him up with one hand and throw him across the square.

R149, Martin needs to hire some bully boys to intimidate Ben. Sonia is going to get the wrong idea and start sleeping with him. She's forgotten that she used to be a lesbian.

Sonia's bisexual; unfortunately, she's too annoying and unattractive to want to see anything having to do with her sex life.

Martin not telling Stacey what Ben's doing to him (them) doesn't make sense to me. .. They basically left Walford to begin with, because of Ben's threats and hold over Stacey. So what's the difference now that things have shifted to Ben's threats and hold over Martin? And how does this wild lie that Martin wants to be with Sonia prevent Stacey from returning to Walford whenever? She may be staying away now because she's hurt, but the rest of her family is there -- including a mother with cancer, and everyone soon facing eviction, etc. If Martin had told Stacey the truth, I think she'd be more likely to stay away simply to protect her kids. And the two of them could just as easily have devised a ruse that they'd broken up, rather than it actually happening, because Martin is lying to her.

I get that people lie in soaps to protect others (causing conflict and "drama"), but this one just seems so stupid.

Agree it is stupid and there is nothing stopping Stacey from moving back to be with Jean as she owns/rents the house, not Martin.

^^^ I guess we finally learned the status of No. 31 a couple weeks ago, since they showed that letter, which Mo has been hiding, indicating that the landlord is in the process of evicting them, because they're selling the place. (Some are saying this is Janine.)

So is that it for Dadi and Dada? .. That goodbye looked pretty final. ... And Iqra said she's moving back in with Habiba.

With Adam out too, I suppose that pays for the three new brothers.

So KEEE-AN-NU is out with Danny Walters opting to exit the show.

One wonders how they're going to get Martin and Linda together in this thing with Keanu? Does Ben order Martin to take care of Keanu? Is Linda just in the wrong place at the wrong time?

LOL !!