🌈 Richard Madden & Brandon Flynn: Part 40

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Wow!! This time we are not up to date where Brandon and Richard is at right now..all I know is Brandon is not active on SM..

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I told my friend who is a big Marvel fan that R and Tom Holland may have met because they stayed in the same hotel and R's insta likes. My friend said it's very possible that Marvel booked R's hotel accommodation. Apparently Kevin Feige is in London as well and could've used that time to set up a few meetings with R for his Eternals role.

That's one guess as to why R stayed at that hotel instead of his own home or one with less fans/paps.

R6 perhaps but Richard seems to like that hotel, he’s stayed there a lot in the past

I wrote this in the last thread but B is alive - he just liked Taron’s ig post

There’s no wonder they could be taking a break from social media, if any of you have been on Twitter recently there are lots of posts from some very “enthusiastic” fans of the endless messages they’re sending to both R and B via DMs

It must be exhausting for them and I’m surprised neither of them have switched the messaging settings off yet, some of these people are bordering on psychotic stalking!

R9 What the hell are they messaging them about, and do they really expect R or B to respond? Nutcases.

R10 people are crazy.

R10 Yup the line between being an appreciative fan and a deluded they must love me fan has well and truly disappeared for some of them and it makes me sad more than anything that the behaviour of these people and the ones who camp outside hotels will more than likely ruin it for the nice normal sane fans who used to be able to get a quick chat and/or a selfie if we saw celebs out and about!

R6 that might be a very good guess. I expect Eternals casting will be confirmed by Feige during SDCC.

When is SDCC?

R13 Not just confirmed, I read there's a chance they may unveil the cast then and there. So Richard may make an appearance himself!

R14 July 18-21

Too bad they both chain smoke. Probably a vestige of "used to be fat kids and terrified of overeating."

I can’t get over the amount of tattoos the guys all have on 13RW. They’re supposed to be 16/17? They can’t even legally get them yet. This show doesn’t even try for realism lol

But goddamn Brandon keeps me watching...

Brandon and Richard both have 2 sisters and parents who are still together.

R15 That would be awesome! And even if Richard can't make it (although he'll probably be back in the States by then) it would be nice if they announced casting at SDCC and we'd have some actual news to discuss instead of the usual DL in-fighting.

R19 Yeah, that's one of the first things I noticed. I love that they seem so close with their families. Still wondering if Richard has visited B's family in Miami yet...

B and R have blue eyes,high forehead low eyebrows, almost the same height, smoke marlboro,as a Gemini and a Libra they both are air signs,former fatties ..what else? For personalities they are complete opposites very ying and yang ..

R22 I actually don’t think they’re that opposite when it comes to personality. They just are opposite in how they show it to the public.

Updates from Goldderby on Emmy predictions...

R23, yeah I think Brandon is more of an ambivert, someone who clearly loves being around people but maybe prefers to keep things more low key with really good friends. He actually doesn’t strike me as someone who really loves to party. RM, while definitely more reserved in interviews and on SM - is I’m sure loose and extroverted in real life. They really do seem to be a good match.

R25 agreed. It was lovely to read that girl’s account of seeing him on the night of his birthday. She said she was at the restaurant/bar near him for 3 hours and he was just laughing the entire time and seemed really happy. He has the best laugh so I can only imagine how hypnotising that must have been for her

r24 Nothing on Jared Harris?

R24 Oh, man! Trying not to get my hopes up, but this is great to read. Honestly, I'll just be happy if he gets a nomination.

Any new pics since the Nice airport ones?

R12 I said that in the other thread and someone replied to me with “Stans don’t have a moral code”. So what, we can’t criticize them for being nutcases ? Lol.

R29 Yes. The one at the Ferrari party in Monaco and the one at the Rocketman after party (or after after party in New York). Plus we know they’ve been in Boston, Italy and London together since- though there’s no new pictures of them TOGETHER there, only ones taken separately.

R18 If you’re not an adult and were bullied in school, I’d say expect to be triggered...awful show, with Brandon and couple of other actors being the best thing to happen to that show.

R30 being a bit of a geek myself I’ve experienced fandom for some tv shows and so many, mainly girls although I have seen some men too, go absolutely off the rails for these people. I mean I’m a massive Richard fan and would pay good money to meet him, like the Boston event, and also would definitely ask him for a selfie or something if I saw him on the street BUT you have to judge the circumstances and if he was chatting away with family or eating then I’d probably leave well alone but if he’s just outside a store or something then maybe. It’s the curse of tv and film and social media in that these celebs seem readily accessible to us because they post updates on their lives, travels, loves etc for us all to see but that in no way means we know them or have any claim on them whatsoever. Sadly there are always the unhinged few that don’t see it that way, which ruins it for the normals as they stop taking pics, stop talking to fans etc because they just don’t know what they’re going to encounter.

Weren't we on Part 39 just last night ??? I swear I cannot keep up with these threads.

I read a post about an Out article on the other thread and thought to myself "I'll answer later when I log in next time." Bam, I log in to find we have a new thread. What gives?? lol

R33 Curious why you would pay good money to meet R at an event such as the Boston one? Personally, I just don't see the value in paying for those events because you know you're only going to be able to ask them a quick question, take a selfie and then leave. Is there some value here that I may be missing? Otherwise I agree with everything you said. Well put!

We still have no idea where they are? My guess is they are together somewhere. If Brandon was back in LA, he’d post about Charles or be liking stuff a lot more, no?

R27 The Gold Derby article linked was just discussing Best Actor in a Drama predictions. Jared Harris would be in Best Actor for a Limited Series/Miniseries.

R36 that would be a solid assumption based on how he usually does things

R36 I’m guessing they’re together still in Europe somewhere.

[quote]Personally, I just don't see the value in paying for those events because you know you're only going to be able to ask them a quick question, take a selfie and then leave. Is there some value here that I may be missing?

R35 The value of being able to brag to other stans on SM and gain in stan popularity.

R36 yes I agree, wherever they are they’re together because they’re so quiet on SM.

If R is attending Sophie's wedding, we're gonna see him in a kilt again. HELL. YES. And B is gonna see it in person. He looked hot during Kit's wedding

No one has said exactly what the triggers in 13RW, but there are two graphic rape scenes and then Hannah’s suicide is shown in pretty gruesome detail. That scene was harrowing.

Then the second season has a pretty brutal rape scene towards the end perpetrated by a group of bullies. The series can get pretty dark despite its teenybopper romance plots, so it’s no wonder parents got up in arms.

R43 Yeah, the suicide scene was pretty graphic. I was shocked. I didn't think they'd actually show it in detail.

And the rape scene in season two was completely unexpected. I was like, "JESUS. WTF?"

R43 Jesus.. I don’t even like watching that kind of stuff when it’s adults.. but teenagers??

Sounds like they set viewers' expectations that it was a wholesome show and then kabonged them with highly charged content.

When is Sophie's wedding?

R42 Richard in a kilt IS my sexuality

would Richard wear a kilt to a non Scottish wedding?

Wait! Who gets rape in season two ?? I skipped all the way to the finale of season 2.

R50 that camera stalker guy I think

R50 R51 Yeah. With a broom handle. In a restroom stall, after they nearly drowned him in a toilet. It was horrifying.

Oh wow, I was provably fast forwarding,I did it a lot in some episodes, I just assumed he was beat up and that was that. Ughhh

Now the final scene of season 2 makes more sense.

Richard smelling cookies

Richard eats Brandon’s cookie nightly

Some people here haven't yet watched 13RW and plan to, as was stated in the previous thread. No undoing the spoilers that have already been posted, but please do refrain from posting others. Thanks for the understanding.

I appreciate the spoilers, actually. Still planning on watching.

Brandon commented: "I want to be u". Does anyone know, who this is?

A Transgender ??? He/she is wearing men's undies.

R58 I saw that too. Her name apparently is Summer Jade Leavitt but I don't think it's relevant to R&B tbh.

She's a writer/artist who Brandon has followed for a long time, maybe they're pals.

She’s very pretty and interesting looking. He has commented on her posts before so assume they know each other

calm down its just him complimenting a friend

She also writes about queer experiences, maybe he wants to be as eloquent as he thinks she is. But yes please calm yourself lol.

Yeah, she’s an artist apparently. One of her installations apparently involved her collecting her sweat for a few months. So...that’s interesting. #iknowitsartbutthatgrossedmeout

R59 why would that matter?

So he’s alive! But we have no idea what time zone.

the comment was 3 hours ago

r67 I'd say Europe. The only thing that even makes people think LA is that we haven't seen him in a few days, but we haven't seen Richard either so.

I miss them! I think they are together but I don't know where lol! Maybe they'll go to the Glastonbury Festival or the wedding, I hope we'll get news soon!

R70 there's something unbelievably sexy about that pic.

[quote]Yeah, she’s an artist apparently. One of her installations apparently [bold]involved her collecting her sweat for a few months.[/bold]

R65, really? that is fucking gross. Sweat can stink and release bacteria. I wonder what the exhibition was about?

R66, it was a question? Were you trying to answer that question ??

We survived the entire Jan to March without seeing them. Granted we didn’t know but they can be very low key.

R71 right??? I love it so much.

R70 richard’s Fingers right on brandon’s pulse (shivers)

Good things come for those who wait... I hope lol. Also, I think one of the reasons why they wanted to leave/arrive separately at the hotel in London is so that paps couldn't get a photo of them together to sell to the tabloids. They probably don't care that people know they stayed together but if there are pics of them together it can easily be made into a story even if there is none. But let's hope we get to see them together soon like in the R70 pic!

Lol, I love that pic, Richard's hand on Brandon's neck is so sexy and possessive, the way Brandon is looking at Richard and Richard's tongue...

R72 I am cry-laughing right now. It is SO fucking gross. Here’s her website, it’s the picture to the right. The one titled Phantom Penetration. Spoiler alert, it’s a bottle of her sweat, on a shelf, on a wall. I’m gagging thinking about the process she used in order to collect it.

Is it just me though or did anyone else think b looked so different in the weed pics? Idk what it is.. can’t put my finger on it. But he just looks different to what I’m used to seeing him look like lol

yeah, to me his face looks puffy in those pics and the almost-mustache looks weird.

R76 hmm yeah I feel like there is a conscious effort on both sides to protect this relationship. Lol I know someone is now going to reply RM is “forcing” them into hiding because he’s ashamed or career obsessed or something but it doesn’t look like that to me.

R80 r78 this is the look one has after they have not left the bed for ages due to a sexathon and then they abruptly have to get up and go on an urgent errand (for weed refills).

R80 Yeah I think that’s what it is. His face looked fuller. And yeah the baby scruff is odd for him. He’s usually clean faced or has a fuller beard

R78, not my idea of art and let's just leave it at that.

I'm beginning to think B is kinkier than we are giving him credit for...what if it was B who went after Richard and not the other way around?

R70 As much as I love those pictures my favorites are the ones with Kate Mara and Jamie Bell. They’re not touching each other but they looked so couply in those pictures.

I think Brandon would look sexy with a fuller beard to match Richard’s when he lets it grow out. Then they really would blend in as a couple of WeHo gays.

R84 I thought B likely made the first move given how aggressively he used those hot thermometer emojis! Boy is not shy at all and is very aware of his sex appeal. Richard had no chance! Lol.

R86 it’s not super full here but I’m obsessed with how his facial hair looks

R85 I LOVE THAT SET. Brandon looked so relaxed and I love that Jamie talked to him separately just as if they were friends themselves.

And I still think Richard really initiated things because Brandon probably thought he was straight, even if he did flirt the first couple of times. Richard asked him to come to Scotland and then gifted him (most likely) a necklace in like the first month of so of them dating. I think he was the one who really chased Brandon.

Anyone else listen to the lyrics of Sam's "dancing with a stranger" and get stuck on, "I need somebody who can take control"? Considering it comes after "I'm still thinkin' 'bout the things you do," it makes me feel like in the bedroom, even if not necessarily outside it, Brandon is a take control kinda guy. The way I feel things were most likely to have gone down is Richard first chased Brandon ('coz if it were the other way around, I find it hard to imagine Richard plunging himself into this serious relationship so early on, when he seemed so much more hesitant with previous ones, even the serious one with Jenna. It just took him much longer to get to the phase he's at right now with B and they haven't been together as long as he has been with J) though Brandon made sure to flirt *hard*, and then once it was obvious Richard's his for the taking, I kinda think he might have taken the reins there and blown Richard's mind into smithereens, proving to R that he was oh so right to give chase. Just a theory of course, nothing more.

R89, I always assumed that too. Especially because Richard is older and more experienced. Plus R had moved across the pound to be with B and what not.

I am a fan of the theory that Sam gave B the lowdown on R.

[quote] "I need somebody who can take control"? Considering it comes after "I'm still thinkin' 'bout the things you do," it makes me feel like in the bedroom, even if not necessarily outside it, Brandon is a take control kinda guy

Funny, because in an earlier thread someone posted a video of S&B in Australia where B was clearly the one in control.

Maybe Madden is a big ol' bottom. Yum!

Or maybe it was just simultaneous combustion. They both just were pulled to each other in a strong way. They pursued each other and quickly accepted it.

Do you think they were talking about how hot Richard is, lol.

R95100%%%% especially because Richard looks sexy af in the scene after that one. Wouldn’t it have been even MORE funny if B had filmed Richard’s scene instead?

R96 wow wtf.. that was for r95 lol

R93 Tbh, B to me didn’t look like he was taking control in that video. He just looks complacent. Lol.

Yeah from what I saw in this club video of Sam and Brandon, it def seemed like he took control in the bedroom instead of the other way around. I actually think he does with Richard as well, which is probably feeding into another reason why R seems so in love/whipped by him. He’s had to be the protector/one to take control most likely with his previous relationships, so maybe being able to submit control finally in the bedroom has been euphoric to him. Brandon seems like such a people pleaser so I’m sure he does whatever is best for his partner and their needs. That’s probably what gets him off - seeing his partner be the one pleasured!

R97 Omg sorry I was 96 lol

Are they watching game of thrones ??? Someone identify that episode and what season it was !! lol

R95 I love how he’s all like “is it 2019 yet???”.....boy would’ve NEVER guessed he would be ringing in the New Years with Robb Stark LOL. To think he was just stoked for the show to return.

R101 yeah season 3, episode 1 I think? I know it’s season 3

I think in certain circles Richard’s proclivities are well known. I think Brandon made the first move. R93 I agree, Richard is HUGE bottom.

R101 I already did yesterday.. I know you have me blocked for a stupid reason so your loss at the info I guess

Why do they have to have such strict sexual roles!?! Why???

R105 I don’t think anyone here atleast is saying that. We’re just making observations. Personally I think Brandon takes control more, but I feel like they’re verse and are comfortable in that.

R103 we have been through this before. No one knows Richard’s sexual proclivities. The only receipts were some unfounded stuff from some blog from 1 poster. No one has backed anything up at all.

R105 Because people have their own fantasies and they cherry-pick what fits with those

Well Brandon did like a post last November something about having a big dick and knowing how to use it... so I’ll say Brandon is a bottom.

R108 The only thing I fantasize is that this is the best, most spectacular sex of their lives regardless of who puts what where.

R102 yeah I said this yesterday. It’s episode 1 of season 3. And Richard had a big scene directly after that one

R107, what one blog was that? What did they say?

Also, what is this club clip with Sam and B that I apparently missed? Links, anyone?

[quote][R101] yeah season 3, episode 1 I think? I know it’s season 3

How interesting. the red wedding episode took place in season 3. I wonder if S/B were fangurling over Richard Madden, and now B is dating him.

[quote]I am a fan of the theory that Sam gave B the lowdown on R.

You know what R92? maybe there is some truth to your theory.

I would prob believe what Brandon like on insta than some unknown commenter from ohnotheydidnt and it wasn’t even that commenter it was her/his friend is known works in h-wood and heard it from someone else lol!!! It’s like my friends cousins nephew’s best friends cousins uncle lol

R114, ok, agreed that it's probably highly unreliable, but for curiosity's sake, what did that one commenter say?

I am quite sure B flirted with R, he seems quite the flirty type. Probably took him by surprise when R flirted back.

[quote]I am quite sure B flirted with R, he seems quite the flirty type. Probably took him by surprise when R flirted back.

I'm giving you WW. Yes to this.

I can see BFlynn being playful and chatty and being stunned that Richard met him with the same enthusiasm.

R112 link probably won’t work so go to the samsmithxbrandonflynn IG account and scroll down to May 14th 2018

R115 That everyone in L.A. knows Richard is a huge bottom. I believe the source was their sister that’s in the business.

r115, similar to what I said..he just heard it from someone else .. people here wants to believe because for some reason they want Richard to be a bottom something about wanting a man to lose control ,maybe a fantasy from a romance book /male on male fanfic written by women and for women ...some women get off on wanting a man to be sensitive in the bedroom to lose control ..similar to a bull being tame..

I truly wonder if Richard will be at Glastonbury in a couple of days!! It would be cute to see the boys at their first major festival together.

R121, too many paps maybe one of the reason they didn’t attend coachella in LA..

r122 Richard said he wanted to go to Glatonsbury. Actually, I think he used the word desperate so I don't think it's the same thing.

R122 coachella and glasto are very different things haha.. also wasn’t Richard busy during April?

R118 thanks! Interesting clip, though it probably says a lot more about Sam than about Brandon.

R120 as a gay argh, I really wish some people would stop with the casual misogyny. Any post they don't agree with? Fraus/fangirls. Any theory they dislike? Slash fiction written by women for women. Y'all do know it's possible to just disagree without invalidating someone else's POV, right? Also, I'd think if we're talking about straight female fantasies, since Richard is the manly male guy with the hard dude roles and the straight cred, I'd think if we were only dealing with females' fantasies, those would have been about how masculine Richard was, topping the heck out of Brandon, the exact opposite of most suggestions in this thread. Maybe can we just discuss stuff and disagree with something while leaving straight women alone, not using them as a point of invalidation and if anything, we'll let them speak for themselves?

Saying Brandon takes control and is therefore a strict top is power bottom erasure

R125 as a bisexual woman, I really appreciate this as a woman. This website can be extremely misogynistic

R125 Love this...thank you.

R122 Yeah I don’t think he cares about the paps for glastonbury as he seems pretty eager to go. He was also doing Bodyguard promo during April so no time for Coachella.

I think he also knows someone who runs the festival? Someone’s uncle? Maybe they can go and get a reasonable amount of privacy because of that. There are also VIP tents, etc. they don’t have to be out in the main area giving each other piggy back rides to have a good time. Though that would be quite the visual...

R129 Richard giving Brandon a piggy back ride at a music festival would be enough to sustain me for the rest of the year.

lol, if you watch the clip carefully, in the last few seconds B shows clear regret @ R118.

Yes, I am aware Coachella and Glasto are 2 different festivals but there are plenty of paps there so I don’t think he wants to take the chance..maybe Richard will go with his friends.

R132 I think it all depends on if R is filming this week or not / if they will be going to the wedding in France

R132 they both literally just stayed in a celeb populated and paparazzi filled zoned hotel in London for several days...he’ll be alright. I was just thinking it would be cute...no need to have a big debate over it. I still suspect Brandon will be at NYC pride anyways on the 30th.

I actually see Brandon going to pride most likely over a wedding for two people he doesn’t even know at all.

Did Brandon go to NYC pride before? I don’t see him just coming to NY for a pride parade.

R135 he can do both though...

And we don’t know that he doesn’t know Joe Jonas.

R136 yes he went last year but I also kinda think he was in a different mindset last year. Just becoming single and wanting party vs now where he seems a bit more chill and wanting to relax and be with his man

R136 He went last year.

I don’t think he knows them....he probably has ran into Joe before but that’s different than actually knowing someone. Richard didn’t even know Joe. Him and Sophie barely reconnected this year.

R138 he also went in 2017 (LA pride)

He said PRIDE is important because they only get one month...I don’t think it only equates to partying for him.

R134, yes, they did they stay in a pap invested area but did you completely blank out in what they did? They left seperatly and came in and out 10 min apart.. it’s obvious they care about the paps..

R142 they could’ve circumvented that entire thing by not staying there. i don’t think they’ll be showing PDA at a festival. It’ll just be similar to their pap walks and Monaco. Standing next to each other.

R140 again, he was single then too.

I’m not saying it’s not important to him! But the parade itself is very much a big party and not everyone has to go to appreciate pride for what it is.

R126 Brandon being a power bottom is one of my new favorite theories. Okay I’ll be in my bunk thinking about the first time they hooked up

I don’t see him showing up to pride NY unless he already has plans to be in NY for other reasons. He missed the LA parade but went out that night with Richard

R144 I guess I’m just confused at what his relationship status has to do with him going to PRIDE with friends? He doesn’t have to ONLY do/follow whatever Richard does.

If R and B do attend Glastonbury together they would be 10 feet apart from each other and will be surrounded by friends. Richard will just be anxious and paranoid to relax in his favorite music festival...

R148 I think he would be too drunk and euphoric to care

Well quite frankly he hasn’t been going out much with his friends without Richard now has he? Believe me I’d love to see him go! I’m just saying he might not

r148 If he was so anxious and worried they wouldn't go at all.

R147 What friends? Last year he went with Tommy and his husband, but they don't seem to be that close anymore.

R149 Sure, but he is aware that the media and paps do camped out there because he’s been there before several times and you can see pics online of him with friends and Jenna but now that he is with Brandon it’s a different story ...

R152 How do we know that? They didn’t hang out a lot when he was still with Sam, but it’s obvious they were still friends.

I actually thought they would go to the wedding together but now I doubt it because that would confirm that they are a couple, and it’s clear they’re being super private. And someone made a great point that Richard didn’t even take Ellie to the Kit wedding. At that time, I said it wasn’t fair to compare that to his relationship with Brandon because I’m sure both are different, but now after giving it thought, I would be shocked if Richard brought Brandon as a +1 to the wedding.

R151, Yes I don’t they they will attend the festival because if they were worried about being pap by simply leaving the hotel together than imagine just standing together in a festival...no chance...if it wasn’t so pap invested they would prob go..

R156 i actually think hanging with a large group of friends at a festival would be easier to pass as platonic buddies compared to papped photos leaving hotel together....just like when those NYC ones came out of them leaving the back exit together, people were like “okay they have to be fucking”. Hanging at a concert could be excused as bros being bros. They were at the BLL after party and I’m assuming not caught acting coupley even though Richard seemed super WASTED lol

R157, Yes I think hanging out with a large group of friends would benefit them to attend the Glasto together.

R157 R158 You really think they don't know they will be making headlines even if they go with a large group of friends?

R159 They were in Monaco together and that didn’t make headlines. Ofcourse Glastonbury is a much bigger deal, but the tabloids would still be writing that the roomies attended it together with friends. With pictures of them not showing PDA. Not incriminating at all.

I think Richard will go to Glasto alone with his friends.

R160 Attending VIP events helps not making headlines. That's completely different than Glastonbury. R161 I agree.

After Brandon went to Boston while his boyf did a random event, I just expect to always see him with Richard LOL. But if R161 is right, then i 100% think Bflynn will be in NYC for pride.

There'a a chance neither of them show up at anything.

R161, same he will prob be with his friends while Brandon will be at NYC pride especially after that Pride article came out that he is proud being part of the lgbt community..

R164 honestly. Secluded in bed fucking far away from the world. Ideal situation

I think they'll go together, get wasted and be all over each other and we'll get a blurry pic of Brandon riding Richard!

R167 HOT

R167, I wish!! Unfortunately that won’t happen Richard is just too aware of his surroundings...

R157, BLL afterparty?

R170 Big Little Lies

R171, thanks!

Did the fan who saw R on his birthday for all that time at the restaurant mention anything about B? I’m sure he was there, maybe she didn’t know/recognize him?

R173 She didn't reply to any questions about who he was with. I'm pretty sure someone said she follows B on Insta though so she most likely does know who he is/could recognise him/ has probably heard the rumours and wasn't going to say anything whether she saw him or not.

Y'all really think they're going to go out of their way not to have FUN together because they don't want to be seen as a couple? LOL

R175 Yeah I think people forget that they’re dating and will continue to water the fruits of their relationship regardless of paparazzi. Hanging together with a huge group of friends at a festival could be excused as nothing.

R167 Don’t toy with my emotions!

175, they prob have lots of fun together in a more private setting but the thing is the paps do camped out in Glastonbury...

Do we know if Richard would even be able to attend if he’s still working on 1917? I’m still so confused as to how many minutes of screen time he’ll have lol

R167 someone gonna be sneaking into their tent to get this shot? lmao

r179 If he's working then no, he won't go. He mentioned he would if his schedule would allow it but who knows how much he has left.

Thanks R174 I couldn’t remember but figured she didn’t mention him since it wasn’t discussed here at length.

I wonder who R would go to Glastonbury with? Hopefully Azim so there are lots of photos and stories like last time they all went. Azim did just go to Ibiza with Rs ex so they might not be tight anymore...they are all adults though so maybe that doesn’t matter.

r182 I don't think he cares about that sort of thing. Douglas Booth has vacationed with Jenna before but they're still close.

Hahah r u guys sure Richard didn’t date Azim and Ellie was just a cover up? Jk or maybe not?

R184 Maybe he fucked them both? I think he’s bisexual.

What a beautiful gif

R185 that gif is adorable :’) I love him so much in that show

Brandon must be pretty special to be the first man ever to be publicly link/rumored to be with Richard..

R188 After binging on all his content, I can see why Richard seems hooked. He is such a vibrant personality who radiates positivity and goofiness. His smile and looks are just the icing on the cake. I’m glad Richard took a chance with him, and it seems to be paying off for them both :’)

R188, he was prob careful and discreet in all his male hookups but I think Richard made so many mistake and errors with this one because he has fallen deeply with Brandon...

R189 have you seen that twitter thread with a lot of brandon’s recent IG stories? Brandon is such a sexy and goofy person! A rare combination of traits.

I think given the fact that B still seems to be in Europe, he’s gonna be going to something this week/end there. I guess he could technically leave tomorrow but we’ll see!

r192 Yeah, I kind of think if he was going to leave he would have left by now.

R191 Yeah I was the one who linked everyone to the thread hahaha. He’s seriously the best and so so beautiful.

I just wanna see them interacting on video, is that too much to ask?? Lol

That one person who claimed to see them dining and showing some affection takes the ultimate gold...I want to see how soft Richard is with B 😭

R196 the softest Richard there ever was.

Hopefully, he's not "soft" in the bedroom!

I know we hate to bring up Ellie, but like, I never really saw Richard being soft with her in any of the pics/vids and I’m just desperate to see him being that way because I know he is with Brandon. He was defs softer with Jenna (prob because he had real, serious feelings about her).

I can’t believe there is no sightings of them in the past couple days , Richard is pretty recognizable even if u don’t know the name they could just Put “Rob Stark” r u guys sure there’s nothing on twitter or insta? What about French twitter ?

r200 Pretty sure they're in England. Probably that town the girl said he had a hotel reservation at.

R200 I’ve been checking their tagged pics on insta all the time (nothing new) and their names on twitter and nothing. But tbf I haven’t gotten creative with other search terms like you mentioned lol

Variety is really pushing this, I think they've linked it in 4 or 5 tweets by now. This caption makes me think that he told them he doesn't identify as gay but it didn't make it into the interview

They literally met, fell in love and moved in together over a few months and we had no idea. They know how to live their lives in private.

R203 I don’t think that’s what that tweet is implying but regardless the social media person wouldn’t be the one who wrote the article nor would they even have access to the audio so.. I think they were just saying “gay” to end the sentence rather than just saying “never came out”

It doesn’t look like Brandon want to post or like the article because he would have done it already..

Haha my friend read the headline and just look at me and said “wait...so he’s straight?”!

He’s wearing a unicorn pin in that photo. He’s the best.

R207 ah yes, dated a man publicly, but straight! Your friend sounds special...

I haven't read the thread in a few days, but did Richard go back and like some of Brandon's instagram pics?

Variety preschedules tweets that get automatically published and they also test different headlines to see what will drive the most clicks. They are not overthinking it like we are with their tweets. I can see the tool they are using and I am familiar with it.

R210 what makes you say that? But no, not that we’ve seen. But B hasnt posted anything since Father’s Day. Richard’s been pretty mia from ig the past few days too.

R207 let your friend know the boy is following this IG account and they'll have their answer.

[quote]Variety is really pushing this, I think they've linked it in 4 or 5 tweets by now.

Oh boy! Is Variety trolling Brandon for not acknowledging them?

"[italic]The media celebrated Brandon Flynn for coming out in 2017. The problem? He never actually came out as gay[/italic]"

OMG, people have heard him refer to himself as a "gay man." That tweet is intentional lol

R209, well she’s not really a fan of his..

....

R203 No one cares outside of DL. People are more upset that he described himself as a handsome white man.

R214 yes, they are trying to drive clicks so the different tweets linking to the same story are a way to keep the story fresh.. They use different interesting or clickbaity headlines to pull people to read the story which leads to higher page views and more revenue.

R214 we get it dude you hate the article and are mad Brandon might not id as gay...

R216 just staring at the pretty boys on that link. Hotness.

I imagine Brandon was excited that he even visit the Variety insta to like their cover but then when he actually read his full article he was like.... ummmm nah!!

R210, oh really? What did he like of Brandon?

He must be aware they are now trolling him. A good lesson for the young BFlynn.

r223 They just want the article to be viewed. They aren't trolling him.

R214 R223 They’re not trolling him, jeez. Theyre not teenagers in high school. They’re promoting their article the same way they promote their other articles. And I don’t know how many people you think have watched a couple of random interviews with him, especially more obscure ones from the Brazilian leg of 13RW press, but I’m guessing the Variety piece will reach a different audience- many of their readers won’t even know him well, let alone have watched many interviews with him.

R223 Oracle, no one seems to care. I haven’t seen one negative comment on SM about that article. People actually are responding positively and liking it which might be why variety keep pushing it. It’s getting likes and retweet’s. Just Let this one go.

Omggggg you think Variety is trolling him I literally CANNOT

Variety does this with a bunch of their articles. It’s nothing personal.

R221 I actually think this now as well. I was one of the ones saying I was so sure he would post a link atleast to his article and the fact that he seemed eager for his interview to come out (checking the variety page he doesn’t follow early in the morning) and now nothing besides liking a screenshot from a part of the article makes me feel like he probably thinks some of his words were spun wrong. Honestly we could just be overthinking but this is something he would’ve posted. He always does for his solo stuff.

R217, isn't B Jewish? In that case, he'd be Middle Eastern, not white. Or partly non-white, if he's partly Jewish.

R228 yes, you are overthinking it. There is nothing wrong with that article.

R217 people are actually upset that he called himself a handsome white man...? oh that’s just a REACH - why are people so desperate to dislike him...he is a handsome white man lol

Not all Jews are from the middle east...

R231 people are not upset about this.

R216 Ugh, what a way to spin the Variety article. Brandon was not asked about Richard (or if he was, it didn’t make it into the article). Anything for clicks, I suppose.

I can't believe there is a poster trying to claim he's not white hahahaha

r235 we’ve seen it all at this point

R234 This is how it works. It’s about clicks. Only this matters in order to drive ad revenue

R224 & R225 , your explanations makes more sense.

make*

R230 we might not think there’s anything wrong with it, but you aren’t him so you can’t say if he was happy with it or not.. all that poster was saying is that it’s odd he hasn’t shared it yet. Maybe he will whenever he gets back online at a normal speed but at that point it would be kinda late and old news?

The only important source that posted the article was Variety, Just Jared, and Out magazine...everything else is just a small website that makes up incredulous headlines that 2% of the concerned population will see.

R230 I never said anything was wrong with the article. Reading comprehension is key friends!

R232, only people who have converted in their own lifetime to Judaism are Jews that are not originally from the Middle East. Or are you not aware that that's where the ancestors of Jews come from? And no, genetics don't care what the color of your skin is and whether it fits people's idea of Middle Eastern. God, there are loads of Indians who have fair skin, yet I've never seen people trying to claim that those Indians are white.

I think it’s fairly safe to say that, for whatever reason, Brandon is choosing not to promote the piece.

Though watch, as soon as I post this they’ll emerge from their sex haze and he’ll link it somewhere.

The same IG at R213 posted another RM edit. It’s an oldie but a goodie. Let’s see if B likes it.

R244 I mentioned the other day that I think it could be linked to him feeling like it’s not associated with a project or brand new information, but still I feel like he def in the pay would’ve linked to it in his IG story. It’s just such a huge publication so that’s why him not advertising seems off to me.

In the past***

That’s the same as me saying I’m middle eastern because I’m Sicilian and people from the Middle East conquered Sicily at one point. Yeah I might have a bit of middle eastern in my ancestry line but I would never call myself anything other than white and pretty sure people from the Middle East would have a fucking fit if I tried to say I was middle eastern.

The media already misinterpret what he said they only focus on how he kinda sorta addressed his relationship with Richard when he didn’t even mentioned his name. if Variety keeps linking and promoting Brandon’s piece thn the Daily Mail will get their hands on it on Monday and you know their headlines will be sensational and will connect it Tom RICHARd which sucks for Brandon and Richard because they both read the DM especially Richard.

I feel like Daily Mail would’ve already linked to it by now. It’s crsxy that he doesn’t even mention Richard’s name (nor the interviewer) and headlines are insinuating that all he does is talk about his relationships...when that’s just the last question. His point again about these nonsensical articles is proven right — like “what is actually there? why are you writing this?”

Dear God ... okay trying to save this thread from the wildly off topic discussion of Judaism and Middle Eastern ancestry lmao wtf .......

do we think RM slid into Brandon's dms after liking and commenting on this pic from November?

He's looking extra cute here...

R248 I don't know the history of Sicily well enough, so I won't comment too much on that. But Jews were indigenous to the Middle East, they didn't just pass through at one point in time. Israel is where the Jewish nation came together and the language of its people was developed, the culture, the values, the traditions. And Israel is at the very heart of the Middle East. So your comparison (based on how you described it) is not the right one. This would be more akin to someone telling you that just because you're Sicilian, doesn't mean that your ancestors are from Sicily. It's funny how, as long as it was privileged to be white, everyone remembered exactly where the Jews came from and often shouted at them to go back there (and white supremacists still will do this), but it's only since it's not as cool anymore to be white that I've seen people starting to call Jews white and I've been honestly so weirded out by this. I'm just not ok with the erasure of the origins of Jewish ethnicity.

R251 I think he was already DMing/texting Brandon about LA stuff in general. Being curious but also flirting at the same time. Brandon thirst trapped the entire November/December on Instagram and it WORKED.

R251 I’m sure they exchanged numbers when they met probably the week before

R250 , If Variety keeps linking it then DM will eventually write a sensational headline about him outing Richard and then those Richard Stans will be like “I told you he is an attention whore trying to use Richard ..he can’t be trusted!”

R255 they can’t write that because Richard isn’t mentioned in the article and no one was outed

also sorry but if Brandon only cared for clout, he could easily find another actual a-lister guy to flirt and hypnotize into dating him. Richard is famous, but he’s not really household name level like others are.

Out Mazine just did it

I’m sure Polish and Russian Jews wouldn’t call themselves middle eastern but go off I guess *rolls eyes*

Also this article says you’re wrong. There were plenty of people in the past who converted to Judaism who did not come from the Middle East and thus would have passed their Jewish ancestry down as well.

Anyway, done with this ridiculousness now.

Maybe he didn’t link it because there isn’t a new photoshoot. What would he share? A screenshot of the headline with that stock red carpet photo Variety ran with it? That would look weird in his gallery.

I get what you’re trying to say, R252 but B wouldn’t identify as middle eastern. Sure, genetically or ancestrally, he may, but he is white, American, Jewish. I have a similar ancestral makeup (my dad is Italian instead of Irish) and grew up in the same town as B. I can tell you that most Jews in south Florida, especially ones where only one parent is actually Jewish, would tell you that they are white. If you asked him his religion, that’s another story. Obviously I don’t know all the Jews in SoFla, but I sure know a lot. I’m not R248, but I think that’s what they were getting at too. It would be the same if Bs parents were black, and his mom were still Jewish. He’d say he’s a handsome black man.

R260 It’s a big interview though. He could have just linked it in his stories

I’m so thirsty for new Brandon content.....like professionally. I can’t believe all it seems like he has is promotion for 13RW and then that’s it? I really wish his movie would come out this year, but that’s probably a tentative work in progress release wise.

I wish Richard could be more supportive on SM and like the article the way Brandon is soo supportive of his projects...

r264 I think Richard would like it if Brandon or someone Richard followed shared it, but he doesn't follow Variety so it's unlikely he even knew it went up.

R265 this implies that Richard and Brandon don’t speak to each other lol.. he knows it went up. I’m sure he would have liked it if Brandon had. But he hasn’t! R264 (stop being a troll)

What kind of excuse is that just because he doesn’t follow it ? I’m a big fan of Richard but sometimes the excuses can be I don’t know...and how am I being troll just because I wish Richard can be more supportive on his projects and interviews the way Brandon is to him??

r266 I'm sure he knows the article itself did and likely read it. But I doubt he's stalking the IG Variety page waiting for them to post it. Nothing in that implies they don't speak to each other.

R267 literally just explained it to you but you refuse to listen and you’re being dramatic for no reason

R268 sorry I thought you were trying to say Richard wasn’t aware the article went up, my bad!

Stalking? So when Brandon like some of Richard’s projects and article he was also stalking it because he didn’t follow some of the account?

Yeah I think he would like it immediately if B posted it. I’m sure he loved it and that’s more important than a double tap.

Brandon will casually link the article when he gets back from his hiatus. Not sure why this so urgent.

So Richard not liking a Instagram post means he doesn’t support his boyfriend? This generation is fucked!

r271 That's what you took away from that? I don't think Brandon is stalking but please, make something out of nothing.

R244 I'm not paying attention to all the arguing above about magazine articles and Jewish ethnicity because I'm still stuck on the mental image of them "emerging from their sex haze." Why am I picturing a Moroccan tent with wispy curtains and throw pillows all over the place?

R273 is it a hiatus if he’s still be online a few times during the day? He’s for sure been on a lot less but he could have easily linked it by now. It’s been 4 days.

Those eyes...

This is the first time he pings for me ..

Ashkenazi (European) Jews are closer related genetically to Sephardic (North African) Jews and Mizrahi (Middle Eastern) Jews than they are to other Europeans. Not very white.

[quote]This is the first time he pings for me

R pings but we weren't paying attention..........

R281 omg where is that from? Cutie!!

Lol.

[quote]R pings but we weren't paying attention..........

Richard was certainly pinging to DLers back when he was in GOT, but he fell out the radar to most of the American public.

He pinged for me in an interview he did with Entertainment Tonight but I can't find it. It was a solo interview for Rocketman and he was sitting on a stool. Perhaps with a bar behind him. Anyone remember this? It was pretty decent I think.

What man doesn't "ping" to DL

A new favorite of mine

Oh man he’s so hot while smoking in this video...and LOL he’s hated the paparazzi since the beginning. Serving them the silent treatment but still smiling.

I now need to see him and Brandon gunshot together....fuck it must be so magical

Contrary to most Scotsman he can't seem to hold his liqor. He always seems half wasted after few drinks.

Not quite on topic but still related, Connor rumoured to be Miles' current boyfriend just came out on IG. I wonder what Miles' team are thinking now, if they allow him to come out or try to swear off the relationship like with B.

Awwww just read his post. I hope Brandon’s article somehow helped him with his decision. It looks like him and Miles just spent his birthday together too which is adorable.

R291 Give a link, please

R292

I love that 13RW has the gayest cast ever yet the gay character is played by a straight guy. Isn't that how it should be instead of letting secuality decide if you play a straight or a gay character. Because I hate the term ' he plays straight so convincingly'. They're actors, they act.

connorwjessup

[Quote] I knew I was gay when I was thirteen, but I hid it for years. I folded it and slipped it under the rest of my emotional clutter. Not worth the hassle. No one will care anyway. If I can just keep making it smaller, smaller, smaller.... My shame took the form of a shrug, but it was shame. I’m a white, cis man from an upper-middle class liberal family. Acceptance was never a question. But still, suspended in all this privilege, I balked. It took me years. It’s ongoing. I’m saying this now because I have conspicuously not said it before. I’ve been out for years in my private life, but never quite publicly. I’ve played that tedious game.

[Quote] Most painfully, I’ve talked about the gay characters I’ve played from a neutral, almost anthropological distance, as if they were separate from me. These evasions are bizarre and embarrassing to me now, but at the time they were natural. Discretion was default, and it seemed benign. It would be presumptuous to assume anyone would care, yeah? And anyway, why should I have to say anything? What right do strangers have to the intimate details of my life? These and other background whispers––new, softer forms of the same voices from when I was thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.... Shame can come heavy and loud, but it can come quiet too; it can take cover behind comfort and convenience. But it’s always violent.

[Quote] For me, this discretion has become airless. I don’t want to censor––consciously or not––the ways I talk, sit, laugh, or dress, the stories I tell, the jokes I make, my points of reference and connection. I don’t want to be complicit, even peripherally, in the idea that being gay is a problem to be solved or hushed. I’m grateful to be gay. Queerness is a solution. It’s a promise against cliche and solipsism and blandness; it’s a tilted head and an open window. I value more everyday the people, movies, books, and music that open me to it.

[Quote] If you’re gay, bi, trans, two-spirit or questioning, if you’re confused, if you’re in pain or you feel you’re alone, if you aren’t or you don’t: You make the world more surprising and bearable. To all the queers, deviants, misfits, and lovers in my life: I love you. I love you. Happy Pride!

Trying not to overread but the timing and the connections are interesting. Parts of that read like a response to Brandon's interview

Connor won't be claiming in the future that he didn't come out with this latest IG post. Kudos to Mr. Jessup.

It's his birthday and he's so madly in love, he can't really hide it. I would guess those are his reasons.

R296 you are likely too invested in B so you see things from that perspective. Don’t minimize connor’:s coming out by saying it sounds like a response to Brandon. Connor has come out individually and in his own time and terms.

That interpretation doesn't really make sense as his boyfriend isn't out.

If anything, Connor's words about public closeting himself for his career are what ring loudest (the "airless discretion" as he puts it). Miles has nothing to do with that.

Is this the longest dry spell we have had since the threads began lol? I look forward to them coming back and being active but it is interesting that B has been offline for this long. He usually finds time for IG even when R doesn't. R is probably filming though so I guess we'll see soon.

It's hard to manage SM when you're tied up in bed.

R301 he has been on sporadically, but not nearly as much as he is usually. i still feel like he isn’t home because he probably would’ve showed off Charlie by now.

R302 probably true.

R296 I very much doubt Connor is judging Brandon’s coming out, or words on coming out, or anything to do with his interview or his situation, when you look at the fact that his OWN boyfriend is not out.

R296 No it doesn't. It has nothing to do with Brandon. Christ, not everything in the world has to do with Brandon or Richard. Just because your world revolves around them doesn't mean someone else's does. Get over yourself.

I saw video of Richard on the shoulders of his friend during Glastonbury and now I desperately need Brandon to be on his next week during the festival. (I know, I know realistically it would never happen publicly BUT indulge me on this lollll)

R297 Lol the shade towards Brandon for his own life decision is not necessary. Some people here act like he personally killed their cat, my goodness.

When this thread starts talking intensely about people that aren't r&b it's boring, that guy has his own thread and so does his boyfriend so go there because it's unrelated

R302 Wish we could get those pics instead

r309 It appears I had it wrong. B's busy tying R up in bed.

Good for Connor but I don't understand why we're posting his coming out story here. How is he related toR&B

I was cleaning up some old folders from my Merlin-stalking days and I found this pic of Colin Morgan with the class of 2007 BA Acting at the then RSAMD now Royal Conservatoire of Scotland.

Is that Richard in the front row with the red shirt. I know they were there at the same time but the pic isn't very clear.

r312 It is him. So young.

On zooming in on his face it looks like it could be!!

That’s Richard

Here's young Richard

R312 What a lil babie!!

Aww Richard's back and Alive on IG posting pics from the Armani Show

So he would have been about 18 in that pic then

They're alive!

Richard coming outta the sex haze... “shit I never thanked Armani”

Now it's Brandon turn to post something!

What do you mean they?? Is Brandon active as well or only Richard ?

I couldn't see any of them liking posts and I went back about 3 or so hours in my likes so maybe they are liking stuff just now :)

I don’t see any likes from either of them

I haven't seen any of there recent likes. No idea why.

R326 I don’t think they’re liking anything. I’ve been able to see all of their likes from the last few days. But I don’t see anything from today

All this travelling is taking its toll bless him he looks knackered, they are some proper dark circles under his eyes. Brandon needs to make sure his man gets a good nights rest

Brandon just came out to like R’s post lol

R329 In case anyone can’t see it

Also I meant to say “came on” in the last one lol

Lol! He appears just to like Richard's post. So they are still together in Europe...

B only got one hand free and decided to use it for something good.

I don't blame Brandon for uhh having a social media break for a few days. I mean when you have this I mean I would stay in bed for days (From the movie Ibiza)

I guess they are in Europe. This relationship is lovely. Hope it lasts.

Imagining Brandon’s parents discussing their son’s whereabouts:

Dad: so where is Brandon right now? Mom: He’s in the UK - or somewhere in Europe with the boyfriend —- I mean roommate Dad: the Robb Stark guy? Mom: Yes Dad: weren’t they just in France and Italy? Mom: that was last month and last week, dear. Please keep up.

Should we dare hope for a sighting today? The day started off active from them so maybe their hiatus is over and they will be out and about in popular areas?

[quote] Queerness is a solution. It’s a promise against cliche and solipsism and blandness; it’s a tilted head and an open window.

Favorite quote in years.

R337 It’s kinda similar to the last few days though. Except for yesterday, both of them came online briefly at around this same time and then went away again. I’d so love to see them somewhere though!

Their bed must be wrecked!

R399 Brandon was online a couple of times yesterday, but Richard wasn't online at all.

R341 Yes I know that’s why I said “except for yesterday”....

I loved Connor Jessup's post, and before someone says it's OT, I think it relates to Richard's situation in that he too is surelyl out among friends and family, but publicly the closest we've gotten to that is his non-denial that he's dating Brandon.

I'm not one of those people who's demanding that Richard make a public statement or anything of the sort. I believe it's his life to live and he should live life on his own terms. However, it would seem that the path he's chosen would be somewhat exhausting, as Connor pointed out in his post.

R342 Oops, sorry. I read that wrong.

R344 No worries, glad I’m not the only one paying attention ;)

R340 LOL. Brandon calling housekeeping: "Hello. Yes. We need a new bed, please. No, not bedding. Well, yeah, that too. But we need a new BED. Bed, yes. The old one broke."

Random. But I love how in all of his love/kissing scenes (and he has done quite a few...) he kisses men the exact same way he kisses the women. Some actors you can see sort of half ass it or do not go all in...

RM has made out with 3 different men onscreen and it is all hot af. He looks like an amazing kisser.

Someone posted a montage of most of his kisses and I'll have to come back and post it soon.

*in one of the clips, it is Douglas Booth playing Boy George but could be mistaken for a woman if you have not seem the film just fyi)

Is this it?

R347 agreed!! But he’s actually kissed 4! He kissed 2 guys in Sirens, Douglass Booth and Taron. Is this the video you were talking about?

And since the Rocketman ones weren’t included in that montage, here’s that as well.

YESSSSS!!! Yep.

Oh dear. He and Taron are legit on fire.

R351 I can’t listen to Take Me To the Pilot without this visual in my head at this point

Here's video of him just being fun and laughing. Love it.

R353 we are all truly #blessed

I love the almost choking sound he makes sometimes when he laughs lmao

I love when his voice goes up several octaves. He's got a great laugh.

lol his face in the second gif 😆😆

And Taron liked Connor's post. Such an ally.

How does he know Connor though? As for relevance, I felt it was relevant since he's dating B's ex. Of course it's all rumoured but even a blind man can see the evidence of both relationships. So Brandon has a lot of experience to dating a closeted or at least glass closeted guys. I can't really call R closeted when he doesn't deny his relationship with B but probably glass closeted.

R351 seriouslyyy they were hot as fuck together in that scene. So believable. Fingers crossed there is an extended 20 minute version in the DVD extras. Please, Elton?

I think, he kisses men and women differently

In early May I saw a video of R kissing and yes he does the same thing everytime, hand on the neck, those LA marijuana cigs photos took on a whole new meaning and I just knew they were fucking.

Nice gifs of Douglass and R kissing :)

R359 The director Dexter Fletcher actually just confirmed on twitter that the dvd will have loads of deleted scenes so I’m hoping for the full sex scene because they for sure cut that a lot. It was supposed to pretty graphic and it really wasn’t

Jesus I've just died.

Don’t shoot me but at certain angles, Brandon has a look of a younger Taron about him!!!

He is truly a thirst trap.

R363 They were contemplating to cut the grahpic parts of the sex scene completely to avoid R rating but they left it in in the end. I think the talk about how graphic the sex scene was was just a marketing play. The graphic scene everyone was talking about was left in the movie and it turned out to be a pretty tame scene. I doubt there was anything more graphic filmed.

R367 Idk they made it seem like there was a lot more to it but guess we’ll see

It's pretty graphic for Hollywood for a gay sex scene. I think the most we've gotten from HW so far is kissing.

R365 shh we don’t want to wake the tumblr fangirls.

R369 I feel like everyone forgets about Brokeback Mountain though?

R370 Unfortunately they're on twitter too.

R353 Oh man Idris Elba and Richard Madden have to be two of my most favourite actors. I watched Bastille Day and it was alright. I’d love to see them do comedy together. Despite all the serious roles they take they’re both really quite funny.

R373 I would kill for Richard to do more comedy. He really is so funny! He cracked me up in Ibiza.

r371 You are right, I did forget. It just feels like every explicit gay sex scene comes from indie films or Europe. Never HW.

Brokeback Mountain was not a Hollywood studio film. It was independent.

R362 wow thanks for that lmao

Yes, Rocketman’s is the first gay sex scene from a major Hollywood film studio.

[quote]What do you mean they?? Is Brandon active as well or only Richard ?

Yes they’re both active sexually. Holes have been destroyed.

R376 it was distributed by Focus Features and according to the link, it seems like Universal/Focus was involved in the filmmaking. Sure it wasn’t Paramount but it also wasn’t some small indie film that wasn’t widely distributed.

But I agree, Rocketman was the biggest studio sex scene between two men

This is off topic now but Brokeback Mountain was not widely released at first. It was later in it's run but I remember going into Manhattan to see it because it wasn't a wide release.

I find it sweet that Brandon appeared on ig just to like Richard's post. They both disappear after that.

They paused the sucking and fucking to get it out of the way and then quickly resumed.

I just watched the LA Times livestream that Richard did on april 10th and it was sweet because he was like “I’m so excited to watch on Sunday!” when the interviewer brought up GoT and I just picture him and Brandon snuggled up with Charlie on the couch watching the final season premiere being little fanboys.

I can’t believe there is no sighting of them espically Richard.. did they go back to Richard’s place?

R385 I feel like maybe they’re not in London because it’s rare for fans to not spot them even if they are able to avoid paps. maybe they’re in Scotland or somewhere up north in England

skye?

If he's filming like the hotel girl said then they're in Darlington so it's probably easier to slip under the radar than London.

I'm guessing they're maybe with R's parents in Scotland or with some friends. I don't think they're staying at any hotel or going out in public places because we'd have some knowledge of that, R is too high profile in UK right now to go unnoticed.

Who knows! maybe they are indeed at Jeremy Langmead’s house and maybe that WAS B in his ig story the other day

R388 she never said exactly when the hotel reservation was for though so it’s unclear if filming is for sure happening there at the moment or if they’re just getting set up

r391 That's why I said if. She made that tweet like two weeks ago so it should be soon if it hasn't happened already.

I love this interview segment.

As a former childhood fatty myself this is relateable !!

I read Brandon say in an interview he used to be chubby as well.

I think they're likely still in UK

R393 their Last chubbiness bonded them but it’s their current fitness/hotness that keeps the relationship going. In summary, they were meant to be

It does seem like they must be somewhere else in the UK - maybe Scotland. Brandon will soon be publishing a travel book on the best places in Europe to get fucked in.

@R393 He said in an interview that he has been body shamed and asked to lose weight for roles and basically he and his "actor friends" will starve themselves and work out immensely and it is extremely unhealthy. There are photos of him looking super thin.

Wonder if he was referring to BF?

That has to suck. They both seem like they love to eat.

Brandon is a flamboyant golddigger.

Not to compare but Sam also have 2 sisters and he’s a former chubby kid...

Flamboyant is the last thing I would describe Brandon..

Silver fox!

R397 I don't think Brandon hast to starve himself to remain thin. He was a little bit chubby when he was a kid (but not his whole childhood) but as a teenager he was very skinny and still is.

Can someone post Jeremy Langmead’s insta story I want to know if that was indeed Brandon..

For those that are not keeping track Rocketman is getting very close to achieving Brokeback Mountain numbers at the box office with just over 3 weeks of release.

Brokeback (2006) : 83+ million dollars in North America / 2,089 theaters

Rocketman (2019): 77.3 Million dollars in North America/ 3,610 theaters

R401, Richard is such a silver fox but he’s only 33 going on 40-45..what will he look like when he’s actually in his 40’s...60???

r405 he will age in reverse like Benjamin Button

R405 why are you worried about what he'd look like at 40.

He'll be fine.

R405 lol RM does not look 40 - 45. He maybe looks 36/37... which is fine.

He'll look "distinguished."

R409 I was also going to make a Clooney reference but you beat me to it

Could that be the reflection of the light and not actual gray hairs ?? Hmmm, I haven't notice it before.

R403 I was joking about it being B in the ig story. It was probably Jeremy’s hubby. I don’t think Jeremy would ask b to do yard work lol

Do we think R is filming or will he go to the Turner-Jonas wedding in Paris?

He’s a male actor, so he’ll still have a thriving career even if he looks 60 and fan girls/boys will still thirst and call him daddy.

R403 I saw the story. It wasn’t him.

R414,Yea Richard is daddy and Brandon is son

They were spotted at a hotel near Loch Ness yesterday by a GoT fan.

Was Nessie also spotted?

R416 Ewwww.

R417 are you trolling?

R419,Eww? what are u a female

R417 Are you the same person who said they were spotted at a gay bar in London during the past week?

R422 yes they are. Why doesn’t everyone just block them?

R413 no offense but this has been discussed so much already.

These threads lack a gay tone...

R425 you actually think this thread has gay men? It’s mostly women. Maybe 1 or 2 gay men comment regularly

R423 Thanks. Have done so now.

R416 Brandon being the “son” is gross lmao but I will not sit here and pretend Brandon sometimes calling RM “daddy” when they fuck - isn’t hot. So thank you for putting that in my head.

Are they still fucking non stop? It’s like once Richard got a taste of the pole/hole he’s become an insatiable sex maniac. Ellie could never.

This obsession many of you have with the daddy dynamic, makes me think you were molested by male relatives. Incest and molestation. You are a disgrace.

I’ve always thought he was a sex maniac anyways lollll

Once you've had pole and hole you never go back.

This picture alone could secure Richard the Bond role. His best silver fox look of 2019 so far imo

I’m curious to see if Richard ever goes back to dating women now that he’s (sort-of) publicly out.

And NO I’m not rooting for R&B to break up.

Oh Brandon...

He is bi, so everything is possible. Many gays love to experiment with women anyway.

It’s not about being with a man, it’s about being with Brandon that is life-changing.

I'm more curious to see who Brandon might tempt next.

I know it’s not up to me of course but I really hope IF Richard did take on the Bond role, that it would be the first bisexual Bond. I know it won’t be because Barbara Broccoli is a homophobic old cunt but that’s my dream.

I would like to make a new rule that states unless a hot older guy was old enough to be YOUR father when you were born he shall not be called daddy. How old are some of these posters? Richie is only 33!

I still don’t get the need to wonder about future relationships when this is a thread about them being together currently. It’s so bizarre to me.

No offense Satan’s Mistress. I <3 your posts.

You have incestuous tendencies.

[quote]This obsession many of you have with the daddy dynamic, makes me think you were molested by male relatives. Incest and molestation. You are a disgrace.

Uh ?? While I am not part of the Daddy conversation and I don't think I want to know. I must remind you that [bold]the daddy culture is entirely owned by Heterosexuals.[/bold] They are at fault for intergenerational relationships.

Reminder: Richard hasn't actually come out as bi yet. And we don't know if that's how he identifies...

r439 Why Bond has to be something he really isn't? Fuck people, create new characters.

R435 I tapped that.

Can we just stick to this relationship? I’m not over and done with it yet. Some of you are moving too fast.

R444 Thanks — was kind of what I was getting at in my post above.

[quote]Reminder: Richard hasn't actually come out as bi yet. And we don't know if that's how he identifies...

Well, what else is there??? Pansexual ??

These threads go so fast I feel like I am out of the loop half of the time. IS there a reference I am missing ??

r443 So the heterosexuals forced you to fancy daddies? The big age gap difference in the heterosexual world is regarded as a perversion.

R442 they wouldn’t be the first. There must be a reason brother/sister/stepbrother/stepsister/etc categories are so popular on Pornhub.

Kill your father, fuck your mom! Or vice versa.

R445 I guess I was thinking of it as more of a new character Bond. Like he wouldn’t be the same Bond as before. Tbh I dont want Richard to be Bond because I do think it’s unoriginal but yeah, it would be cool if Bond could be different for once

R452 like a Killing Eve kind of Bond!

You don't hear straight people speaking about fucking daddies like in the DL.

Was Richard regarded as a pervert when he dated a 19 year old? I don't think so. The media coverage certainly made no mention of perversion.

"Zaddy" was coined by a black woman...

R449 I wouldn’t rule out gay just because he’s dated women in the past.

Oh boy, I fear I set something off by bringing up the word daddy. I only meant that when R looks like he’s 60 he’ll still be considered sexy because he’s a man. Older men are generally still viewed as attractive provided they are fit and carry themselves well. But calling men as young as 30s “daddy” is very much a millennial/gen z thing. I’m a millennial and find it bizarre too, but it happens.

r452 This reminds me when people of different ethnicities want certain characters being played by said ethnicity. Puerile and a sign of insecurity.

He more than dated. He lived with Jenna.

R449 I was blanket posting but yeah I was talking about saying he would be a "bisexual Bond" when we don't know if he is. And as R457 says, just because he dated women doesn't mean he can't be gay. Or pan... I guess lol

R458 I’m a millennial in my 30s and I also find it weird. Unless they’re talking about George Clooney.

[quote]So the heterosexuals forced you to fancy daddies? The big age gap difference in the heterosexual world is regarded as a perversion.

1) It appears you are not even a gay male. What the fuck are you doing her bitch? Fuck off !

2) They majority of the contributors in this thread appear to be heterosexual women, so I guess yes you can say that "[bold]heterosexuals forced the daddy talk[/bold]

3) You got it right, it appears that most deviant behavior start with heterosexuals.

4) The Age gap in the heterosexual community has always been seen as desirable since the majority of all hetero marriages are composed of an older male with a younger female.

5) Yeah, tell that to all the child brides that are forced to marry disgusting [bold]heterosexual[/bold] males.

RM is bi. I don't understand why people is deceived when a complete stranger has a different sexual orientation. He fucks men an women, so what. This jealousy isn't healthy for your psyche. Same when a celebrity you fancy isn't gay. People is too invested in other people's lives and forget to care for the reality and betterment of their owns.

I think people get restless when there's nothing to fight about around here.

[quote]I wouldn’t rule out gay just because he’s dated women in the past.

Point taken R457. There is still a chance he is a gay man.

R460 I know men who married women and fathered children with them before coming out as gay. It’s rare, but not unheard of.

I’m not saying R *is* gay. I’m just saying I don’t automatically assume he’s bi. However he identifies, he appears to be madly in love with Brandon, so that’s all that matters to me.

R459 or because Bond is fucking boring?? Lol.. it’s not that deep.

R461 I didn’t say I wanted Bond to be bisexual because I think Richard is??? I was talking strictly about the character because as a bisexual I’d like to see a new kind of Bond maybe??

r463 Hey I was having a civil debate with you. No need to be aggressive. What's your problem mate?

You don't know who is behind the characters, so no point in name calling and insults.

Big age difference in the heterosexual world is a perversion. A 60 years old man with a 30 or 35 years old woman is regarded as an abherration in the Western culture. Dont bring other cultures in the discussion to make a point, because it doesn't work.

R470 oh they assume everyone who disagrees with them is a hetero female who is homophobic. They’ve lost it. Better to not even engage with them at this point

R434 I love them together but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what happens.

Yes, Bond is a sad, old homophobic relic of the Cold War era and needs to be revamped but it ain't gonna happen as long as I'm here to preserve DADDY'S legacy.

Trump is married to a much younger woman. He's 24 years older. He's not treated like a pervert in the Western world from which he hails.

R474 depends on who you ask

He's treated like a pervert. He is the epitome of a pervert, and she is regarded as a whore.

R474 There are way bigger reasons to think Trump is a pervert and worse than the woman he’s married to.

No comment

I’m sure I’ll get pooped on for this but I feel like the daddy thing is more a reflection of someone wanting to be taken care of rather than their sexual orientation. I know plenty of same-sex couples that have big age gaps. Thinking of one couple in particular... two guys, been together 9 years. One is 40 and the other is 28. The elder is definitely the Dad of the relationship.

Fuck, I just argued against my own age rule for calling someone daddy.

Folks, there are daddy child abusers of all cultures and sexualities. Can we move on?

R475, the poster said Western Culture. Disagreement between individuals doesn't change that there's no culture wide disgust for May December relationships. It's not considered a perversion in Western culture.

I wonder what these two are up to! I love that they have spent most of this month together! Literally besides those few days Richard was filming first week of June, they’ve been inseparable!

These threads always change into such a shit show when there's no new content. And sometimes even when there is. Lol.

[quote]they’ve been inseparable

Because this is what "flatmates" do!

[quote]Barbara Broccoli is a homophobic old cunt

It is a pity that in the UK vegetables are still allowed so much control.

R481 yeah, when it’s an older man and a younger female, no one bats an eye. Switch that to older woman/younger man and all of a sudden everyone is like 😵

In a desperate attempt to bring this thread back on topic see Bodyguard for reference

R484 it’s so funny when I’m searching through tweets and I see someone mention how it’s rumoured that B and R are together because they spend so much time together in LA and I’m like lmaooo oh honey you need to catch up!

I despise Bond and hope it dies with a shit actor and not Richard.

r486 I saw some tweets about Angelina being older than Richard and it being weird, too.

Barbara Broccoli is American.

Is regarded as a perversion. In fact, this kind of relationships (big age gap male-female) are almost exclusively carried by filthy rich men... and whorish females in the Western world. Regular people who were victims of child molestation sometimes too.

R487 I’m still laughing at that women’s magazine article from a month or so back (I think it was Hello magazine?) about Richard’s ex-girlfriends that wondered if YOU dear reader might be the next lucky lady in Richard’s life. LOL

My God, guys, you made my evening today, I haven't laughed like that for a long time! Keep going

r492 Perhaps the next after B, or another guy. Who knows. Bi world is like that.

whenever we see them pop up again ( I’m guessing sometime later this week ) whether they’re together or apart, there’s just gonna be this gap in the timeline for this past week where we know they were together but not sure where exactly lol.. maybe we’ll get throwback pics eventually from this week

I hate when I leave for a little bit and then I come back to see a high comment number so I get so excited for new content of them but it’s always pointless bitchery. I never learn!

R494 I suspect you’re trying to pick a fight with me about bi vs gay, but that wasn’t the point of my post. My point was the article had listed him as single despite the fact that he’s been with Brandon for at least 6 (maybe 7-8 months) and the author seemed blissfully ignorant of that fact.

r496 these threads need to be split in two. One thread for actual updates and the other for discussion.

r496 Well, that's what the DL is about: pointless bitchery.

I read Brandon's quote about his relationship with Richard and I can't tell if he's full on denying it or not.

r497 No. I wasn't. Don't be paranoid.

r500 queerty has taken the quote out of context

R500 That quote was taken out of context but he’s certainly not denying anything

R500 Where does he address his relationship with Richard, lol.

R500 He was never asked about Richard. These articles are spinning the Variety interview to get clicks.

Figures Queerty would clickbait

Someone could start a Twitter account and add the updates they read here.

R488 that was a really interesting read. I’ve seen pretty much every Bond film (I think) and while I always recognized the character as a “player” I think I ignored a lot of the heteronormative and homophobic subtext in favour of liking the bang-bang-shoot-em-up action sequences. This particular quote from that paper has me rankled:

[quote]However, even though so much emphasis is placed on Galore’s homosexuality, Bond is unable to accept her disinterest in a romantic relationship, viewing her sexuality as a small hurdle in his inevitable conquest. Fleming shows that Bond blatantly disregards her attraction to only women, claiming, “[Bond] felt the sexual challenge beautiful Lesbians have for men” (197).[/quote]

I’m going off topic again, but this is why I liked Killing Eve so much. Cat and mouse MI6 and assassin, overt sexual tension, bi-curiosity, AND bang-bang-shoot-em-ups. Cancel Bond and give this show six seasons and a movie.

R507 please let’s not

In reference to RM or not, he is saying "leave me and my partner alone". He doesn't want to read in an article that he is with this person even if people say they're happy for them.

He’s not denying anything (of course he was never straight up asked unlike someone else) .. the boy is out here liking innuendo posts about Richard’s dick on IG lmao

I didn't follow the media coverage of Brandon and Sam Smith. Was there consistently an "escandalo!" vibe to the coverage? Constant slights? Or could he only be talking about the coverage of his relationship with Madden?

R509, you wouldn't be forced to follow the account. It would be an easy solution for those that just want new pics when they arise etc.

R513 idk just seems like a repeat of the branchard account .. but feel free if anyone wants to do it

Brandon wants it both ways - popular and private - and so he bitches at the enty journos. Boo hoo.

He thinks his gay relationship is being "scandalized" but that's only true because he's being secretive - glass closeting, using separate entrances and not saying they're together, etc.. You wanna be treated like people in a relationship, then stop playing cat and mouse with the fans, press and paps. That's a surefire way to get on the scandal side of things. Come the fuck out and quickly see your lives normalized like typical heteros. Frankly, I think they're both attention whores (as most actors are) and that's why they're keeping speculation high.

R512 I followed it and honestly tune majority of people were happy about them being together. Everyone was happy that Sam was finally happy and maybe able to write happy music for once and ofcourse many of Brandon’s male fans were ecstatic that they had a “chance” wth him since he was open about dating guys. When they broke up, almost everyone was pretty sad about it. So when I read Brandon’s article, I assumed he was talking about him and his current lover. I’ve mentioned a couple of times here already that the media lowkey is acting like Richard and Brandon are a phase or something negative due to the way they reference his past exes in articles. I feel like Brandon is just kind of wary.

R516 LOL who pissed in your cereal today? If you dislike them both then why are you even here?

He didn't say he disliked them R518

R517, ah, so that's why the media is saying Brandon is addressing the dating rumours, just like coverage of Richard's NYT piece, though neither said the other's name.

R518 Who pissed in yours? I'm not a slobbering sycophant for these two actors but I do follow them, and like you I'm watching them carry out their relationship on the world stage.

R520 I think they’re doing it really for clickbait but yeah I feel like this may be a part of the reason.

R522 you’re much worse than me. you want two people to live their lives the way YOU want them to. This is exactly what Brandon was talking about. If they want to continue to “play cat and mouse” then they fucking can. You’re angry over two lives that you have no control over and that my friend is pathetic.

Meant for R521 **

R523 Angry? You're the one who's angry. I'm just mildly amused at the expectation that people should treat Mr. Social Media and his Golden Globe winning "flatmate" alone like it's nothing. Gays kinda notice these things.

Y'all are taking "pointless bitchery" to a whole new level

R520 Brandon’s name is in the NYT article. Richard was point blank asked by the interviewer if he was dating him/are they an item. He was responding to a direct question about the rumors. The Variety article never mentions Richard. I mean reading Brandon’s answer though on the double standard of how queer relationships are covered in the media you would have to be pretty obtuse to think he’s not using his current relationship as a reference point.

Richard just needs to rip the band-aid off and come out.

Brandon is being naive if he thinks he's not contributing to the "scandal" by being secretive. Even straight celebs who are secretive get treated scandalously by the press.

Hey maybe this is why he hasn’t shared it. Maybe.. just maybe he didn’t like the way his words were spun and written out.

r529 How do you know? What if he is bisexual? He will do what he wants and own no explanations to anybody.

The BF Variety interview is written as a Q&A with the interviewer’s questions included. There isn’t a single direct question about him dating RM. Out, Queerty, etc. are using clickbait headlines and attributing quotes to questions that weren’t asked.

Of course, if you’ve been following the relationship and these threads it’s fairly obvious that some of his quotes apply to his relationship with RM. That said, he hasn’t actually addressed the rumours. Mr Richard “My Personal Life Is Personal” Madden was directly asked about Brandon and we got more of a confirmation there than in this Variety article.

R531 If you don't like the way your words are being spun by journos, then stop giving interviews and post on your own SM account like Connor Jessup who just came out on his own IG. Easy peasy.

R527 Has anybody seen the old South Park skit “Fightin’ Around the World with Russell Crowe” where he just travels the world and picks fights with people? For some odd reason, that reminds me of DL.

R534 well again, he doesn’t feel that he should have to come out publicly since he’s already been out and that’s his prerogative. But maybe this will keep him from doing interviews about this topic from now on. Gotta live to learn.

Brandon started it! *rubs eyes with fist*

Nobody wants to hear entitled celebrities bitching about how their secretive relationships are "scandalized." Pullease.

Oh come on, the scandalization of their relationship is a reference to the reaction to the first set of pap pics which were breathless accounts of how RM only fucked women until now! And OMG! are they roomies? The only ones following their "secretiveness" are fans. And despite our obsession with it, I don't think they're following these threads.

Sorry, but it's disingenuous. You court fans and popularity and SM follows and you get annoyed when people speculate about your glass closeting. Gimme a break.

How much longer are we going to rehash this article..?

the idea that it would stop people from screeching that heretofore known heterosexual Richard Madden is dating q man if they would only admit it is absurd.

You have to feel sorry for Brandon. He says I don’t want my relationship to be seen as scandalous! Cue clickbait articles “Brandon Flynn says THIS about his relationship with Richard Madden”. He can’t win. Better to come clean. People will lose interest. No point trying to stuff the toothpaste back into the tube.

The fact that there needed to be an article written about how two male actors are "roommates" just shows that yes their relationship was scandalized. If either of them came out and admitted that they're a couple people wouldn't be happy and just let them be. Well.. But he dated women before!Hes gay!?

Hot

R544 What’s that from?

B is using the word "scandalized" wrong.

I don't read anything any of you write.

But thanks for the pictures.

[Quote] Do you feel there is a heightened interest in your dating life because you're gay? And is that a double standard versus the coverage of a man dating a woman?

[Quote] Yeah, 100%. I feel like there's a lot more interest. I think the media and the press and a lot of people who have interest in actors or any people in front of a camera, there's this sense of - and I'm speaking very candidly - "let's see them fail." That's where it's hard not to read these headlines and feel like that's what is wanted, that it's wanted to see me fail. It feels like a slight. But no one wants to write that article or read that article that would be like, "Oh! Brandon is with this person and we are so happy for them!" There's always something behind it and there's always some sort of scandal that wants to be revealed, and that's frustrating. And in fact, it wouldn't be there if I was a with a woman. Well, it would now, if I were dating a woman - it would be a f-ing circus, I'm sure.

He can't have been so naive as to think that his relationship with Madden might be met with a shrug, can he? And the media couldn't just make a "congratulations" post because it's still speculation that they're together (despite Helen Keller being in the know).

The media running with the "addresses the rumours" angle is not picking that angle out if thin air. "It's wanted to see me fail." How can it be argued that he's taking about anything other than his present?

R546, he's using it as an umbrella term.

R546 He’s using the word right.

r550 nope. "scandalized" means to shock someone. He's using it to mean that something is made into a scandal. He's using it incorrectly.

r551 Exactly.

Do we think Richard took this pic? Doesn’t he typically credit the photographer/friend who takes pics of him?

R553 then again, I’m confused by the reflection of the hand.. not sure if it’s meant to be artistic? But it looks like a female hand taking a pic of the pic with a cell phone?

I admit I haven't known about Brandon for a very long time, but given the fact that he has been enthusiastic about pride month before I would be sad if he ends up not doing anything for pride now because of everything going on.

I understand if he doesn't want to spark any more articles about his relationship though.

I think he means "turned into a scandal". He makes a few odd mistakes ("straight" when he likely means "cis", the redundancy of "the media and the press"). It may just be emotion getting the better if him.

*of him

r556 Reinterpreting what he said, because OH! you know better than him what he wanted to say.

R555 He can do whatever he wants, but as a fan I would be sad too just because in the past he’s seemed too really enjoy himself at these PRIDE parades. I hope he’s able to make it out!

R558 - not 556 but I doubt he wanted to say straight and not cis, lol. You are beating the dead horse here.

R559 I won’t be sad for him if he decides he wants to spend that day with his boyfriend though

I truly don’t think there is anything actually wrong with the Variety article, definitely not anything for people to be stressing over lmao At the most in some answers he’s rambling a bit and maybe he misused a word or two ( ex: straight and trans, idk it’s not a big deal at all) It’s worth remembering though that Brandon is 25 and has not been giving interviews with the press for decades ... pretty sure this is his first solo interview with a major entertainment publication ? And I’m not saying this to imply he comes off as dumb in the article because he doesn’t but maybe we can just cut the guy some slack.

r560 This cis bollocks is so ridiculous. Anyway he wasn't using this stupid notion.

Anyways I'm curious how many people are commenting in these threads, lmao. Maddyn, Oracle, Anony and SatansMistress are the 4 who have a name but how many anons? I personally post like 3 comments a day at maximum or nothing at all. There must be at least 20 people here, right?

R564 I’d say maybe 15-20 at most actively posting, but not sure about just viewing

I post quite often (fuck I love them so much). I’m the person that’s linked to the thread of Brandon’s stories, Charlie dog photos of Richard, and links/pics for a lot of the timeline. Just call me your friendly neighborhood anon lol ❤️

R562 100% agreed. I thought it was an exceptional interview and I love how eloquent and passionate he often is. He just appears to be a great and humble dude.

R558, how is it a reinterpretation rather than an interpretation? Someone pointed out the dictonary definition of "scandalize" above. Brandon used terms incorrectly a number of times in the interview (e.g. "It can be a trans person and straight person"). It's hardly uncharitable to suggest that he did so because he's at a highly stressful time in his life ("speaking very candidly [...] to see me fail") and the correct words eluded him. That's one of the kinder interpretations (not reinterpretations). I doubt anyone here thinks Brandon doesn't know the difference between "cis" and "straight."

R545 Hood Maker

R553 I wondered the same. It looks like a picture of a picture so I don’t even know. Who gets pictures printed anymore, lol?! I think maybe R took the convertible pic and maybe the two of B and Charlie, (restaurant and the window one) but obviously we’ll never know!

R559 I always felt lowkey that Richard or Gemma took the window photo. Also sidenote, I love Gemma’s love for Charlie LOL. It makes me feel warm inside that she seems to be so down for Brandon and his dog, and as a result his relationship with one of her best friends.

r570 I think Richard is more likely than Gemma.

Richard? Can you not see the hand?

I'm one of those who loved B's interview, I thought he was mature for his age and very sincere which is quite refreshing for a up and coming TV star. No pretence just very sincere. But now that everyone is quoting what he said as him talking about his relationship with R is the reason why he hasn't linked it on his IG. And I also hope he's not completely going off SM, IG was the only one left of his since he left twitter after his breakup with Sam.

R573 he never really used twitter before. he actually said last June that he was never big into social media before all of this.

The window one I was talking about was the one with Charlie in it (they are looking out a window). I guess that one above could be shot through a window instead of being a picture of a picture. That makes more sense, R572

Also Richard and his salt and pepper hair. I love it. Those salt and pepper curls really do it for me, more than his wild curls, he is so much hotter now than when he was younger. I don't think it ages him, it makes him more distinguished and plain more hot. Don't want to relate to James Bond but remember Sean Connery? Hot until way into his 80's. Richard's will probably be the same.

[quote]Maddyn, Oracle, Anony and SatansMistress are the 4 who have a name but how many anons?

There really are only 4 posters that are not anonymous ??? C'mon, what are you people afraid of ? Own your posts and your point of view.

I promise not to shame any of you...at least not entirely.

[quote]Is regarded as a perversion. In fact, this kind of relationships (big age gap male-female) are almost exclusively carried by filthy rich men... and whorish females in the Western world. Regular people who were victims of child molestation sometimes too.

The US(South and Midwest) is the country with the most child brides in the Western world. Clearly your assessment is incorrect and we have done countless threads about this topic over the years. [bold]Heterosexuals are shitty perverts[/bold]. Own it, just freaking own it that you are wrong.

Into his 80s? Have we moved on from Daddy to Granddaddy?

Let’s focus on the important things. This video of RM rocking that dark hair like a boss:

R579 he’s soooo yummy

R577 Well, technically we’re STILL anonymous. :P

But I started signing my posts because I figured it’s easier to see who says what that way. Sometimes I think I’m arguing with two or three different people but it turns out it’s only one person, ha.

R578 For the record, I think Kris Kristofferson and Buzz Aldrin are fucking hot, too.

Spank me, granddaddy!

I love how Brandon got on Instagram just to like his man’s photo then dipped lol

I don't mind signing my post but I usually never remember to tick the box since I don't always use the same device.

Richard looks as handsome as the day is long R579.

R581, true, I still say people should not be afraid of signing their posts. What is there to lose...

R579 Very James Dean!

Why are people in the coming out thread still saying that R is "straight or at most bi"? Really? Are there actually people on DL who believe they're just roommates? I can understand someone who doesn't read gossip, doesn't own SM or isn't a fan of RM, GoT or Bodyguard and therefore has no clue who Richard Madden is but DL? Come on.

when was the last time they were pictured together? May?

People are delusional R587

R588 Yep! BLL after party

R587 I can understand being skeptical after just the neck grab photos but if you've been following these threads and their activities after you'd be a fool to think they're not fucking. Who the fuck travels across the world with a friend like that and shares a hotel. These two have been attached at the hip forever

R588 A creepy photo of B with friends with drunk R in the background lol

R591 Especially with B going to Boston....any actual platonic friend or roomie would’ve just said “dude I’ll meet you out in London in a bit for your birthday, have a good trip!” or they would’ve just celebrated the birthday before that person left....Brandon had no business going to Boston. I think for most people (even richardmupdates and haters) that probably confirmed it to them...they can be in denial but the proof is in the pudding.

Next thread

R592 how was it a creepy photo? his friend posted it

Brandon may have been keen on Boston because he's a sucker for jazz.

R593 And let’s not forget that Richard flew all the way back to LA from London just to spend what, 2-3 day there? Before heading to Boston and then back to Europe. He can’t get enough of Brandon’s bussy!

R596 God I hope you’re joking

R595 calm down. R looked creepy in the pic I was making a joke

R589 - yeah, they must be out of their mind. I mean, I was sceptical myself after the first photoset came out though the neckgrab and B holding R's waist were kinda suggestive. But after all the evidence you sleuths collected, no sane person can claim they are just buddies. Like. How?

I sometimes wonder if we don't sound like delusional charmies or something. But then I look at the timeline and nah.

R596 I mean.....I meant in context of them being a couple. Baby could get jazz anywhere in WeHo lol.

R597 YESSSSSS! That was INSANE. That’s the moment I was like “wow Richard is really in love”. No one wants to be apart from their partner if they don’t HAVE to be, but Richard flying from London to LA for like 4 days max was crazy. And it solidifies that Home is where his boyfriend is. I just love seeing the mutual effort they both appear to be putting in. Like it’s beyind obvious that they both want it to work out for a long time.

B has spent the majority of this month away from dog whom he adores to be with his “flatmate” in Europe for no platonic reason. that should be enough for anyone