🌈Richard Madden & Brandon Flynn Pt. 32🦄

Pt. 31 closed before I could add the link to this thread but have at ‘er

Not OP but previous thread

Thanks! I love the 🦄and the pic!

Thank you!

R3 I figured it was time to add a sparkly unicorn for our special boyfriends 🦄🌈💕👬 This is my first time starting a thread so I wanted to make sure I got it right!

Looks good! And we know B has a fondness for the unicorn emoji 😂

I think he was seeing men and women before he was in a relationship with Jenna and after they broke around 2015-early 2017 he started sectetly dating Men as well as women because he seems comfortable being around Brandon in public and is fine to introduce him to his family so its not new for him...

They are soulmates. They are lucky to find one!

If they actually came out as a couple I think there'd be less interest in them, less online stalking overall. People are eager to speculate, seek new pics, and look for more proof via social media and their flight numbers for concrete confirmation.

I really feel that they are very good friends too. (and that’s a solid foundation for a relationship)

R9 I agree! I even posted here asking what if they came out, would there be same attention ?

What do we think they’re doing in the Alps (other than getting it on)? R has said he likes beach vacations but maybe he gets enough sun in LA. Romantic getaway? Family vacation? I see my partner’s family enough I wouldn’t want to take a vacation with them, too.

R9 R11 idk I’m so invested at this point I think I’ll continue to follow them but the mystery is definitely part of the intrigue

We don't know if they are in the Alps. That's just a guess.

Also if they came out as a couple there'd be less need to scrutinize every picture of them and look for every detail to confirm theyre dating because then we'd already know. These pictures of them walking 5 feet apart would require a few glances and then on to the next couple who might be dating. So I think if they do want more private just come out as a couple and all these mundane pictures of them doing their chores and walking their son would be boring. They don't have to show PDA or walk the red carpet holding hands or even need Richard to give a label to his sexuality. They're making it more difficult than it needs to be.

Isn't big dick in the alps and that's why people speculate they went there from frankfurt in the first place?

Richard will never come out as his career his red hot right now...so the fans who are into it for speculations can breath a big sigh of relief.

I would have gone with this pic for the OP...

I've been out of the loop since probably thread 10 or so. Has Richard come out yet?

R15 yes, exactly. And we can be reasonably sure they flew to Frankfurt together thanks to the diligent stalking in the previous thread. Frankfurt is a good connecting hub for flights within Europe and I doubt there’s a direct flight between Boston and Grenoble.

R14, difficult? They're travelling all over the world together, mostly flying commercial, it seems. Ain't nothing to alleviate there.

R18 not exactly, but...

R18 Not really. He gave a non-denial on the NYT after "Rockeman" came out by saying he won't talk about his private relationships. But he has been traveling with Brandon everywhere like they are a couple ever since.

If B and R are at the alps i heard theres not much snow around june? So i wonder what will be there activity there? I know Sam and Brandon went scuba diving when they visit sydney.

[quote] So i wonder what will be there activity there?

You have to wonder?

R23 yeah I’m wondering what there is to do other than hang out in a chalet and drink wine. Which sounds fun, but also a bit boring. They could do that anywhere.

R23 honestly couldn’t say but big dick is there so there’s gotta be something nice to see

I wish them a very romantic time in the Alps if that's where they are. BUT they could also have gone to London. I know it was covered in the last thread that it would be a long route to take but it could be the one they were stuck with, because of the airline. Let's just wait for B to drop a hint 👀

R24 LOL!

Did Richard’s father really never follow Ellie on IG?

r27 They could just take a different flight. It's not like there's one flight from Boston to London all week long.

there were like 10 flights before the one they took that went direct from Boston to London.. come on now

I’d like to see R take B on a fun hiking adventure like those selfies R posted hiking on the Isle of Skye a billion years ago.

Bless the hearts of those who have no fucking clue about flight routes.

Those of you who wonder what there is to do in the Alps when it’s not ski season have obviously never been hiking, lol.

R33 I haven’t!! I’m honestly really sad I’ve never been to that region of the world and know so little about it. I’d love to go.

Richard loves getting out in nature in the middle of nowhere countryside, he's talked about it before. I actually think he was talking about Scotland specifically, but the Alps would be just as beautiful to go hiking in, I'm sure.

Lucky Brandon. Getting poled all over the world.

R33 that’s what I’m saying! Hiking adventure! Two handsome men sharing a sleeping bag! I love hiking and camping. We do a Big Gay Camping Trip every year with friends.

[quote]Lucky Brandon. Getting poled all over the world.

#blessed

I read Richard likes to go camping? So they will share a tent brokeback mountain style?

R39 that’s my fantasy, anyway

Maybe they went somewhere else in Europe?.. Not necessarily to join Big Dick

R32 Aight, calm down now. It was just a suggestion, although a long shot. Seems like this is a sensitive subject lol.

R28 I hereby vote that we leave Ellie/downplaying that relationship out of this thread.

Read? You can see Richard camping in some of those on set BTS videos.

R34 Aww, if you ever get the chance to go, do it! I’ve not been to the French Alps but I’ve been to the the mountains in Austria and Switzerland and it’s so beautiful it’ll take your breath away. (And honestly, just sitting on the deck with a drink and just gazing at the mountains is pretty fun, too.)

We are prob jinxing it by talking about them at the alps what if later we found out Brandon is not actually with Richard lol!

B is back on IG.

R has said multiple times he just likes to walk and be outside. Plus, I don’t think B has been there, so if that’s indeed where they are, it must be exciting for him.

Mr and Mrs Big Dick really live the life. I want to be retired like them lol.

R44 link please! BTS of what?

Lol B would rather sm than go camping and hiking.

R46 yeah but as it’s been said many many times, there’s very solid reasons to believe B is there with him

R49 not sure what would make you think that?

Can some refresh me on how we knew BF was in Boston? Something about an IG story?

R49 Assuming he is indeed in France, it’s around dinner time over there. Probably too late to be hiking or whatever.

B posted an instastory that confirms he was in Boston with R. Also a fan spotted him and claimed she served him

R54 Also a guy said they both came into the restaurant he was working at.

Was it the story with a band playing music? I didn't give it a second glance but I noticed it was an actual video instead of an image.

R56 Yeah, someone found another picture (taken by someone else) in the same spot, or of that band, or something, that confirmed it was Boston.

Here!

And this!

I imagine their getaway as something like when Elio & Oliver went camping together or whatever (I don’t remember)

I think Brandon and Richard both share this love for outside adventures. B has been hiking in Ireland before and tends to do a lot of travel with his friends to the woods or just fun sun spots. Also, can I just say that I still love that he asked Richard’s good friend (the Jeremy guy who is responsible for Mr. Porter) about the views he’ll get from his home when he visits...it’s like he knows they’ll last long enough for that summer trip eventually (and I’m not sure it’ll happen this year with them both about to be busy so that’s extra cute if he was foreshadowing for next year).

R61 ooh can you link to that?? Never seen it

They also share the love of outside adventure sex. Ellie and Sam could never.

R49 he’s probably jet lagged and you don’t go hiking in evening

R55 thanks! I forgot about the guy who saw them at the restaurant

R64 Also R49 acting like he’s been on all day liking a bunch of shit constantly which isn’t the case.

Like literally maybe he’s laying in bed trying to sleep and decided to like a pic or two

R62 Here you go.

Was just about to link to it, thank you ^^

R68 aww I really hope they do visit there this summer. It looks lovely

B made that comment to Langmead on April 12, which was days after the weed pics surfaced. He don't give a fuggg!

Can someone explain this IG page to me? I’m American so I don’t know Alan Partridge. A quick google explained who he is, but it still seems so random to make a page and post a bunch of photoshopped pics and radio clips. Some of them are pretty bad :p

Yeah, I honestly think they know people know who are paying attention, and it really doesn’t matter. I just think they both agreed that staying mum on their relationship status is the best thing for them now. I’m really happy for Richard especially though....like man, he’s having such a beautiful year thus far, personally and professionally. Love to see it.

I had no idea that Partdden was a thing. Hilarious!

They spent the day in geneva. drinks and an early posh dinner at...ha! then a walk around the museum district. on their way to the alps now, perhaps. sleep, i'm sure.

it is 9 pm in europe

That edit about "I'm from Scotland. It's life and death up there. And if you don't have gold, you die. You starve to death" is inspired.

I wonder if Richard will attend the after parties for 13RW later this fall (if he’s not working). I’m sure Netflix has a bunch planned so that link of an excuse could always work.

and they were in america yesterday

R78 I think with the way things are going, definitely if he has the free time and they’re still together

I’ve not seen these photos before. Richard and Michelle are so cute in the second pic!

I want to give that chunky guy a hug. Was he a teen then?

He looks so queeny in this photoshoot, not sure why.

Yeah, those are definitely gay arms

Omg what a babie!! That was such a good look. I hope he grows his hair out again at some point

I love his hair right now - he looks sexier than usual with the soldier haircut. His curls are also really pretty when they’re out. I just would never want to see him again with the dyed dark black hair and black eyebrows....that was a horror LOL

R86 Oh god no! The super dark hair doesn’t suit him at all. I really love it most when it’s kinda that darkish red/brown curly look he had during GoT and in Sirens.. he looked soooo fine

I mean.. amiright or amiright

Oh. My. Gosh. I’ve never seen that GIF before. What a gorgeous human...this look is now one of my faves, thank you for this! The wet, soft curls are stunning....lucky Brandon being able to witness this after their showers/sex, I’m jealous

1/?

Hey all, R112 from Thread #31 checking in with the *not even complete* timeline. Fell down so many rabbit holes, plus my actual job/life, but anyway you guys, this ISN'T EVEN COMPREHENSIVE but it's already extensive enough that it will have to be posted in multiple parts. This is just what I could easily dig up that also had back-up evidence in support of dates and locations. There are only one or two speculative dates, as far as I know; and a couple of the latergrams don't add up, but everything is within an actual day or few for accuracy. THIS ISN'T EVEN EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE, but I'd like to go get my weekend started.

The point is, if this timeline was about a het pairing, anyone with half a brain would admit there's definitely something more than a platonic roommate situation happening here. Hell, the media would have them engaged already. Enjoy...

2017 Sometime in the summertime, RM and Ellie started their relationship, I guess. Apparently spotted kissing during Ibiza trip (Ellie posted IG arrival on 07/31, RM posted IG rave pic on 08/11, so the holiday was at least a week). His first IG like that I saw was a post of hers from 08/07/17. September – Sam describes himself as "insanely single" October – Bodyguard begins filming in/around London 10/04 – Sam and BF publicly kissing in NYC 10/24 – Sam confirms relationship w/BF on Ellen

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2018 01/30 – Sam and BF attend Grammys together Feb/March-ish – Bodyguard filming ends 06/28 – Sam and BF breakup confirmed 10/04 – RM IG from the Cotswolds 10/06 – Ellie IG from the Cotswolds 10/16 – RM attends Bodyguard press conference and photo call in London 10/25 – RM attends Maisie's play "I and You" in London 10/27 – RM & Taron film Carpool Karaoke segment in London 10/29 – RM attends dinner party in LA 10/31 – Ellie attends BIFA Nominations even in London 10/31 – RM in LA for Halloween; IG photo by Alex Richanbach 10/31 – BF attends Halloween party in LA 11/0? – BF posts Chateau Marmont photo w/RM & Asia Chow 11/03 – RM follows BF on IG 11/04 – Michael re-posts Chateau Marmont photo w/RM & Asia Chow: "three's a crowd" – post is liked by everyone, including Ellie, w/BF commenting a sparkly heart emoji 11/05 – RM on IMDb Show in LA (wearing a distinctive jumper later worn by BF in March 2019) 11/05 – RM on the Late Late Show in LA (IG post liked by BF) 11/05 – RM likes BF "I voted!" sticker selfie 11/06 – BF follows RM on IG 11/06 – RM papped at Heathrow 11/09 – Asia Chow re-posts the Chateau Marmont photo, captioned "we can't ~all~ be as lucky as Brandon, to which he comments #blessed 11/09 – RM posts *that* beach pic on IG; BF comments 11/09 – Ellie beach post IG 11/12 – Ellie attends Glamour Woman of the Year Awards in NYC 11/15 – RM in London for BAFTA rising stars jury thing 11/15 – RM flies from London to LA 11/17 – RM at Netflix HQ in LA 11/18 – RM fan photo in LA 11/18 – RM and Ellie attend Evening Standard Theatre Awards in London; this is their last public appearance 11/22 – RM attends Range Rover party in London 11/27 – RM in Rome, fan photo 11/29 – RM in Rome, photo by Cheryl Calegari 11/29 – BF & Charlie recreate the Lion King (maybe the Tahoe trip?) 12/01 – Ellie later-grams Nov 10th beach pic on IG; RM likes the post 12/01 – RM in London 12/04 – BF later-gram(?) of Tahoe trip with Alisha Boe 12/05 – RM's last "like" on Ellie IG 12/06 – RM war film narration in London 12/07 – RM wraps war film narration in London 12/11 – RM leaves London 12/14 – RM on Ellen in LA 12/20 – BF IG pic of him driving his car in LA; photo taken by someone in passenger seat 12/26 – Ellie in Berlin 12/28 – BF Christmas in Miami w/the Flynn clan

2.5/? ... oh FFS, all my fucking formatting...

Take a deep breath. Press that return key. You're doing fine.

Don't worry about formatting. This is good stuff! Keep going...

R92 awww you saint!

3/? 2019 (Jan - Feb) 01/01 – BF fan photo (latergram) at Isle of Skye art gallery

01/02 – Twitter @ALLYDOLE: "My daughter stood next to @brandonflynn in Reykjavik Airport, but too shy to ask for a photo. Kids"

01/03 – RM fan photo in Scotland (probably a latergram)

01/05 – RM IG post in LA

01/05 – RM attends BAFTA Tea Party in LA

01/06 – Ellie IG post: "It's no use going back to yesterday because I was a different person then." 😊

01/06 – RM accepts Golden Globe for Best Performance in a TV Series (Drama) in LA

01/12 – The Sun reports that Ellie dumped RM in December

01/13 – RM attends Critics Choice Awards in LA, accompanied by BF & RM's parents

01/14 – BF attends Elton John concert in Sacramento (IG @jimheadjr)

01/15 – RM interview for Elle magazine in LA Timeline confirmation: "Plus, he's got some great friends in L.A., like Elton John, who whisked him off to his concert in Sacramento last night" Other bits: "When asked about Rocketman's much-hyped sex scenes, Madden shakes his head and says, 'I dread doing these things.' But, to him, the differences between male and female costars are negligible. 'With one you get stubble rash, right?' he says. 'That's basically it. Otherwise, there's no difference. It's storytelling.'"

01/18 – RM photoshoot in LA

01/22 – RM accepts NTA for Best Drama Performance at the O2 in London

01/23 – BF & Charlie on IG = BF in LA

01/27 – RM attends SAG awards in LA

02/01 – RM fan photo "at an In-N-Out when I was on my way to Anaheim"

02/05 – RM Range Rover sponsored IG post in California

02/06 – RM fan photo at LAX

02/07 – BF w/13RW cast, filming 13RW S2

February – RM interview for The Guardian in London (per Paul Farrell [photog] IG) Timeline: lilyrmcmurray on IG (post dated 05/07): "a fun day in Feb shooting with @maddenrichard and the gang at The Guardian." "Madden has met Elton – 'A very interesting and interested man, just lovely'; he was at his house the other day." "A couple of weeks later, we speak on the phone. The career shift is continuing and he has moved to Hollywood." Tea: "Rocketman has had some criticism around whether straight actors should play gay parts, so I ask Madden about this. 'It's a really terrible route to go down if we start restricting people's casting based on their personal lives,' he says. 'We have to focus more on diversity and having everyone represented, but I'm also a firm believer in the best actor for the part.'" … "I assume he's straight, but some weeks after our interview, he's linked with US actor Brandon Flynn, which would certainly flummox the critics. He steadfastly refuses to talk about his private life, speculation or not." "'I don't have career ambition,' he says firmly. 'I have life ambition.' It's just that his career is taking him to good places at the moment. He tells me he's thinking of moving to LA." "…excitingly for him, as he has to drive everywhere, he's got himself a Jaguar S-Type."

02/07 – RM fan photo in London

02/08 – RM fan photo in London

02/09 – RM interviewed for Jackal in London Timeline confirmation: "Tomorrow, the Glaswegian actor is presenting a BAFTA award with his Rocketman co-stars Taron Egerton and Jamie Bell" Other bits: "Now he's been catapulted into Hollywood's upper echelons, about to move over to Los Angeles full-time for work, doing nothing – even for a day or so – has become a luxury." "Next on his to-do list: get his LA flat in order and start looking at scripts."

02/10 – RM presents at BAFTAs in London

02/10 – BF in LA, wearing not-seen-before Pyrrah necklace

02/11 – RM filming Bodyguard Red Nose Day short in London

02/12 – RM leaves London for NYC

02/12 – RM IG post in NYC

02/13 – RM attends Fashion Week in NYC

02/15 – RM in NYC

02/15 – BF IG post about wrapping on 13RW S3

02/16 – RM in London for Body Guard Red Nose filming

02/21 – RM papped by fan walking Charlie in LA

02/24 – RM in Glasgow

02/25 – BF @ beach on IG

4/6 2019 (Mar - Apr)

03/08 – "A source" tells The Sun RM is moving to LA Tea: "Last night a friend of the actor said, …'He never really used to like Los Angeles, but went there a couple of times at the end of the year, and fell in love with the place.'" Also: "Richard … will be staying with US actor and new pal Brandon Flynn, said to be an influential figure in Hollywood. The friend went on: 'While out there, he also met Brandon who is a massive deal Stateside and very well connected. They've been on several fun nights out together, and Brandon has introduced lots of his friends to Richard. He's even offered him his home to stay at whilst Richard sets up meetings, and tries his hand in Hollywood.'"

03/11 – BF & Charlie IG pic from LA apartment; photo taken from over BF's shoulder

03/21 – BF & RM attend Wallows party in LA

03/30 – RM & BF attend Lily James play "All About Eve" in London

04/03 – BF night out w/Alisha Boe IG

04/06 – RM, BF, and Charlie papped leaving LA eatery with Jamie Bell, Kate Mara, and Jamie's son; short walk

04/06 – RM & BF papped walking Charlie in LA after stops at the pet store and pizza

04/07 – RM attends Bodyguard screening and reception in LA

04/09 – RM photo with fans in LA grocery store, with Charlie in tow

04/15 – RM photoshoot for LA Times in LA

04/18 – RM & BF papped walking Charlie in LA

04/23 – RM attends TIME 100 Gala in NYC

04/26 – RM papped working out in LA

04/27 – RM papped SMOKING a CIGARETTE on my GOOD CHRISTIAN sidewalk in LA *clutches pearls*

04/29 – RM fan photo in LA

04/30 – RM papped leaving LA grocery store with green smoothie in hand

04/30 – RM papped working out in LA, with another green smoothie in hand

04/30 – RM selfie w/stylist in LA

5/6

2019 (May - Jun)

05/03 – RM papped walking solo in LA, with another green smoothie in hand

05/06 – BF IG pic @ Kevin Rios's place in LA

05/06 – RM attends Met Gala in NYC

05/08 – RM leaves NYC

05/09 – RM attends Bodyguard screening and panel in LA

05/15 – RM IG fan account places him in Scotland

05/15 – RM papped at Nice airport

05/16 – RM in Cannes: Rocketman photocall; Rocketman screening; Rocketman party

05/17 – RM in Cannes: Rocketman press conference; Chopard "Love" Party

05/18 – RM interviewed for NY Times in Cannes Timeline confirmation: "Madden … had been invited to the Vanity Fair party that night … but decided … 'I'm going to eat a cheeseburger in bed,' he said, grinning." Tea: "Tabloid interest in his personal life has increased, too: Madden, who was previously in a relationship with the actress Ellie Bamber, has recently been photographed several times with the actor Brandon Flynn, who used to date the singer Sam Smith. Are the two men an item? Madden shrugged, unbothered by the question but in no hurry to answer it, either. 'I just keep my personal life personal,' he said. 'I've never talked about my relationships.'"

05/18 – RM leaves Cannes

05/19 – BF w/his family in Miami

05/20 – RM in London: Rocketman press conference; Rocketman UK premiere; afterparty

05/22 – RM & BF papped on sidewalk in NYC

05/23 – BF dines with friend in NYC

05/23 – RM films GMA & Tonight Show in NYC

05/24 – RM & BF papped leaving hotel in NYC

05/24 – RM & BF papped at Nice Airport

05/26 – RM & BF attend Grand Prix in Monaco

05/26 – RM, BF, and RM's parents attend yacht party in Monaco

05/27 – RM & BF fan photos at Nice Airport

05/29 – RM in NYC: Academy Rocketman screening; Rocketman US premiere

05/29 – RM & BF attend Big Little Lies S2 premiere after party at Marie's Crisis in NYC

05/30 – RM & BF candid at after-afterparty in NYC

05/31 – RM's NYT interview drops and the internet is SHOOK

06/05 – BF IG story of Charlie at home in LA

06/07 – RM fan photo in London

06/07 – BF IG story w/Charlie in LA

06/11 – RM fan pic in LA

06/12 – RM in Boston for weird GOT/tech convention/fan meet & greet thing by LiveWorx

06/12 – BF IG story from Boston

06/12 – RM & BF have dinner at same Boston restaurant

06/13 – RM flies from Boston to Frankfurt

6/6

BONUS: BF's "Only You" (fka "Richard") Spotify playlist

- Only You (Steve Monite)

- Infatuation (Takeoff)

- I Can Change (LCD Soundsystem)

- Surface to Air (Django Django, Wrongtom)

- Too Many Colors (Twin Shadow)

- Kickklipin' That Stuff (Folamour)

- Pale Blue Eyes (The Velvet Underground)

- Lebanese Blonde (Thievery Corporation)

- Faraó (Margareth Menezes)

- Song for Jackson (Paul Frazier)

- Hunger (Florence + The Machine)

- still feel. (half-alive)

- Toté de Maianga (Margareth Menezes)

- Ivoire (Folamour ft Kio Amachree)

- You Can Win (Bileo)

Reposting Part 1/6 for my own sanity:

2017

Sometime in the summertime, RM and Ellie started their relationship, I guess. Apparently spotted kissing during Ibiza trip (Ellie posted IG arrival on 07/31, RM posted IG rave pic on 08/11, so the holiday was at least a week). His first IG like that I saw was a post of hers from 08/07/17.

September – Sam describes himself as "insanely single"

October – Bodyguard begins filming in/around London

10/04 – Sam and BF publicly kissing in NYC

10/24 – Sam confirms relationship w/BF on Ellen

And formatted part 2/6

2018

01/30 – Sam and BF attend Grammys together

Feb/March-ish – Bodyguard filming ends

06/28 – Sam and BF breakup confirmed

10/04 – RM IG from the Cotswolds

10/06 – Ellie IG from the Cotswolds

10/16 – RM attends Bodyguard press conference and photo call in London

10/25 – RM attends Maisie's play "I and You" in London

10/27 – RM & Taron film Carpool Karaoke segment in London

10/29 – RM attends dinner party in LA

10/31 – Ellie attends BIFA Nominations even in London

10/31 – RM in LA for Halloween; IG photo by Alex Richanbach

10/31 – BF attends Halloween party in LA

11/0? – BF posts Chateau Marmont photo w/RM & Asia Chow

11/03 – RM follows BF on IG

11/04 – Michael re-posts Chateau Marmont photo w/RM & Asia Chow: "three's a crowd" – post is liked by everyone, including Ellie, w/BF commenting a sparkly heart emoji

11/05 – RM on IMDb Show in LA (wearing a distinctive jumper later worn by BF in March 2019)

11/05 – RM on the Late Late Show in LA (IG post liked by BF)

11/05 – RM likes BF "I voted!" sticker selfie

11/06 – BF follows RM on IG

11/06 – RM papped at Heathrow

11/09 – Asia Chow re-posts the Chateau Marmont photo, captioned "we can't ~all~ be as lucky as Brandon, to which he comments #blessed

11/09 – RM posts *that* beach pic on IG; BF comments

11/09 – Ellie beach post IG

11/12 – Ellie attends Glamour Woman of the Year Awards in NYC

11/15 – RM in London for BAFTA rising stars jury thing

11/15 – RM flies from London to LA

11/17 – RM at Netflix HQ in LA

11/18 – RM fan photo in LA

11/18 – RM and Ellie attend Evening Standard Theatre Awards in London; this is their last public appearance

11/22 – RM attends Range Rover party in London

11/27 – RM in Rome, fan photo

11/29 – RM in Rome, photo by Cheryl Calegari

11/29 – BF & Charlie recreate the Lion King (maybe the Tahoe trip?)

12/01 – Ellie later-grams Nov 10th beach pic on IG; RM likes the post

12/01 – RM in London

12/04 – BF later-gram(?) of Tahoe trip with Alisha Boe

12/05 – RM's last "like" on Ellie IG

12/06 – RM war film narration in London

12/07 – RM wraps war film narration in London

12/11 – RM leaves London

12/14 – RM on Ellen in LA

12/20 – BF IG pic of him driving his car in LA; photo taken by someone in passenger seat

12/26 – Ellie in Berlin

12/28 – BF Christmas in Miami w/the Flynn clan

R101 Thanks! Lol! Good work! You forgot to add April 8 they were papped for the first time with the marijuana cigarettes and Richard's hand around Brandon's neck! Then we have them papped with Jamie Bell, Kate Mara, and Jamie's son April 9!

Oh my god, I'm cracking up. This is amazing, YOU are amazing. Many many thanks!

Brandon posted the chateau pic on 11/5. He reposted it from Michael and brightened it. Also did Brandon really follow Richard on 11/6? I heard Richard followed him on 11/2 and then Brandon followed him the next day

And maybe add the Gemma Chan and Charlie pic hiking in LA from March 8th? I don’t think they would know each other unless R introduced. Brandon also commented on the black and white photos in Nov/October on Richard’s IG, but not sure we care. They were also spotted at a record store in London during the March trip but I can’t find it now. It was someone complaining about poor customer service, lol. You are truly doing the lords work! Thanks!

Also, they were spotted at the record store in London on 3/28

Thank you! Ideally, should include things like: 06/10 BF like manip of RM + knob :)

R105 Gemma was at the critics choice after party so I’m assuming she first met Brandon there (she commented on his 13RW post February 15th) but yes them at Runyon Canyon Park in March is important!

Richard started to follow Brandon on November 3 and Brandon followed him the next day! ANd before Brandon, he followed Sam Smith!

They didn't just attend All About Eve, they were also seen by a fan out to dinner with Lily afterwards!! That's worth noting!!

Also, should we have, like, a different list for "unconfirmed" sightings? There was the Franklin Village dinner, the lady who saw them at the pet shop who said they seemed like a couple or had "couple vibes" or something, the guy who saw them out to brunch, the journalist who saw them "getting cozy" around West Hollywood, the girl who saw them out walking Charlie last weekend... am I forgetting some here?

Richard following Brandon FIRST on IG is 👌🏻

R108 yeah I remembered that after I posted :( it’s too much lol!

R110 that’s all of the ones I have mentally catalogued in my mind!

Also R109 had he not been following Sam from before? That’s so hard to believe since Sam is huge in the UK

Richard madden is not gay

We should also include Sam unfollowing Richard in February and then refollowing just to unfollow a few hours later on 4/8

"10/25 – RM attends Maisie's play "I and You" in London " Ellie was there as well.

Brandon posted a couple of songs from the Richard love playlist (infatuation and Lebanese blonde) on his ig story in November but I don’t think that’s important since he’s a huge music head. He probably just compiled a bunch of songs into a list once he got closer to Richard.

R102 ahahahahahaha I missed sets that kicked off my whole interest in them in the first place! I kept going for other stuff because I knew I wouldn't forget to put those in there. Oops.

R104, the Chateau posts and the follows were the two that tripped me up tbh. Got to the point I couldn't be arsed for 100% accuracy because I knew someone would correct me heh.

R105 and anyone else, keep coming with things that need to be added. Makes my research a hell of a lot easier than skipping across DL, Twitter, IG, Tumblr, google & Getty -- if y'all can include actual links, that'd be fab. I WILL say that I'm not sure I have the fortitude to start tracking every comment/like made by all the players in this saga, but I'm trying to include the notable ones. And I haven't figured out how to incorporate unverifiable events, like the dinner w/Lily and Franklin sightings. Plus, I got tired and ran out of time. This monster will grow, but doing it in pieces keeps it from spiraling out of control completely.

Anyway, it's all good. I'll be back next week to edit this round's errors/omissions and hopefully with news from the boys' weekend added. And I'll have to find a different way to post this shit because I'm not going to spam every thread 1000x with this massive stalker timeline.

P.S. Brandon, hey boo. I promise I'm not dangerous; archiving for people is a hobby of mine. But if it makes you and Little Dick feel better, y'all can send the court documents to my work address. Toodles. ;)

R118 Dang. Thank you for all your hard work!

R115 LOL Salty Sam. Why would Sam re-follow Richard just to unfollow again a few hours later? Any guesses?

BAHAHAHAHAHA I love you and this post so much R118. Thank you!! I think most of us following already know a majority of this stuff, but it’s lovely seeing it all played out and honestly shows that Richard probably really rushed to get to know Brandon because he was whipped. I think Brandon found him super attractive and charming as well, but if you followed him in November and saw his IG stories, you def still got a very single vibe so I have to believe Richard made the first moves here. Also, wow it really seemed like they have been attached at the hip this entire year, but in reality they’ve been separated already a lot due to work and different commitments. Happy for them that they’ve had the past several days to hang out without any worries.

Hahaha R118 here’s the Gemma IG and I know there was a tweet about the dinner with Lily but it was in Italian. I’ll see if I can find it and the record store one.

R101 - you did the god's work (or devil's work) ???? Thank you. I wonder where they were when they went missing for a week from SM and were not spotted anywhere for a while in May (or was it April?)

The timeline combined with the SM activity paints a pretty clear picture to me but hey - if someone wants to doubt, let them. They are up for a surprise if these two stay together long term.

pictures first published on 4/6 but hit everywhere like crazy on 4/8

https://twitter.com/richardmupdates/status/1114665749967253507?s=21

Sorry here is the link

R120, to read him to filth via DM

Richard reading this thread

Here’s the Italian dinner tweet. Twitter search actually came through for once.

So these two were spotted TWICE on 4/6

It really does seem like RM saw something he wanted (Brandon) and just decided to go for it... hot tbh

R128 thank you!! I can’t find the record store one and it’s annoying because I literally saw the tweets the other day... even richardmupdates posted about it when they were spotted 3/28

Maybe add the piece from The Sun (05/10) where Richard says the past six months have been the happiest?

R114 Then why does he have a boyfriend!

R128 Here is the whole thread about it just in case you wanted it

R130 even wilder, when we realize that they honestly didn’t hang out too much in November/December due to different obligations/traveling with friends and family. Love at first sight possibly!

R131 I think it was on IG? It was the store’s first birthday party. I know that the very first RMxBF IG had a screenshot of it...

R134 Lol Richard smoking as usual outside the restaurant!

R135 the screenshot is in one of the earlier threads, but I’m too lazy to find it lol

R131 I found it!!

Richard Madden is not gay

R114 Richard is the classic example of he's not gay but his boyfriend is!

R139 Wow, I think I missed that one the first time around.

Richard Madden is a very attractive male.

Richard is not coming out but he's not staying in either! Traveling the world with his boyfriend like he doesn't give a fuck!

Richard Madden is not gay

R145 You seem to have missed the fact that people aren’t actually saying he is. We think he’s probably bi. But say we are wrong. Say he’s just besties with Brandon after all this. He sure seems to care a lot less that people think he might be involved with Brandon than you do!

Richard Madden is not gay

This here is comedy gold.

"Richard … will be staying with US actor and new pal Brandon Flynn, said to be an influential figure in Hollywood. The friend went on: 'While out there, he also met Brandon who is a massive deal Stateside and very well connected. They've been on several fun nights out together, and Brandon has introduced lots of his friends to Richard. He's even offered him his home to stay at whilst Richard sets up meetings, and tries his hand in Hollywood.'"

It just an odd repetitive troll. R143 R145 R147 Hit ignore.

Lmao R148 I love the spin. Brandon hooking that nobody Richard Madden up with the in crowd!

They're totally taking the piss with "several fun nights out".

Richard Madden is not gay

R148 I think the part where they've been on several fun nights out together, it's true! Lol! And I'm sure Brandon offered him more than his home to stay!

R148 - ikr. Brandon's supposed influence in Hollywood Is laughable reasoning. The "source" didn't even try with that one.

R148 R150 Yeah, I knew that spin was horseshit the moment it came out. Lol

R153 “Brandon opened up his ... home to Richard.”

"He's even offered him his hole to stay in whilst Richard sets up meetings, and ties his hands in Hollywood.'"

R148 Brandon has Richard fooled and on the hook! LOL Influential my ass! With just one hit Netflix show worth a damn to his credit.

Curl porn LOL

R158 some U.K. PR flunkie on Richard’s team needed to make it sound believable if they were spotted together. Too bad they went overboard! Ha!

R139 you’re the best thanks!

Also for the master list, Brandon went to the Ariana concert on 5/7 with his 13RW costars/Kevin! He was also wearing the necklace (ofcourse) in a fan pic. Richard was still out of town at this point, but returned for the Netflix event the following day I believe.

It’s interesting that there was only one report of these two being quite affectionate (“all over each other”) out at dinner a few months ago. Everyone else says they give off the couple vibes so I guess they’re not huge on pda atleast right now.

R160 I'm convinced it was written with a tongue in cheek. It smacks so much of British humour. I think they laughed their ass off reading this.

R163 you’re probably right. It’s said that we Americans don’t get British humor 😃

Richard Madden is not gay

as a brit, I can tell you all that all of the articles reporting Brandon and Richard being 'roommates' or 'living together' were all 100% actually reporting HEY THEY'RE SCREWING but it's just British humour. like, everyone British who reads that knows what they're saying. Subtlety is what we do.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Holy fucking SHIT what a timeline! 👏👏👏

Maybe for your sanity (and ours) put it in a PDF/linkable image for the next threads? A calendar? That must’ve been a ton of work so I’m not asking for you to do more on this but it would be a nice comeback for the trolls who keep saying they aren’t the hottest romance of 2019.

R63 yeah I can’t picture either of those two in nature (I know Ellie posted a photo when she was with Richard in Devon, like the one Richard posted of his “wild swimming” but she also recently wore a fugly Chanel bandaid so I doubt her commitment to the wilderness/sparkle motion). I hope R&B get to have fun outside and take cute pics!

R163 It’s just British tabloid speak. They hype things up to the nth degree and use all kinds of dramatic language all the time.

Baby Brandon, so sweet and handsome!

R168 Well, Sam and Brandon did take a trip to the wilderness when they were together. Sam also spent downtime in the wilds of New Zealand. That doesn't matter though, since you will all find new ways to shit on him instead of focusing on R&B.

R165 he’s obviously not gay. He’s bi. Quit trolling.

Yes, there have been lots of claims that the DM and their ilk have been "stupid" in how they've phrased the coverage. I'd wager any Brit would get the sarcasm and shade straight off.

I'm sorry guys, I know this is off topic, but I hope you won't mind if I ask, is anyone else experiencing what I am with previews- that they're not showing up at all anymore? It just says "see offsite link" for every one of them. The picture at the top isn't even showing for me anymore. It's weird, this has happened when I used Firefox before but never my normal browser, and I haven't done anything differently. They've just stopped showing up.

R167 HAHAHA oh man. Brandon is a super tactile and touchy feely person who seemed to love PDA so I’m sure this has been an adjustment, but I bet Richard makes up for it in private.

And yeah sam and Brandon actually did a lot of adventure traveling when together. Scuba diving, hiking, road trips around California almost every weekend Sam was in town. They definitely made sure to get around! It’s obvious that they were very into each other but just couldn’t make it work on both ends, it happens.

R169 I know. I just picked it to show that I don't think he's huge on PDA. Though he sometimes showed very obvious affection towards Jenna, they were often very sweet together even if they weren't showing PBA. And then the hand on the neck. Which is why I think he's very much into Brandon. He fondled him despite being in a public place. Well until they got caught.

Maybe try registering if you haven't already r174.

R171 R175 my bad I don’t follow Sam so I wouldn’t have known. Anyway, I agree that their prior relationships aren’t important. What’s important is R&B. And they are the best.

R174 check your settings sometimes I’ve found the preview gets turned off

The first set of photos are the best and hilarious simply because it really seems as if Brandon is so thrown off that Richard is holding him around the neck out in the middle of the street. He looks endeared but also like... “babe are you ok?”

I'm a regular and I don't get the previews anymore. I'm not bothered by it.

R174 I had the same problem and changed my settings and it seems to be better now. I think because I use incognito mode and a VPN it fucks with me sometimes. Logs me out constantly.

r180 I would push like button for you if it were available.

R180 I don't get that at all. If you look at the photos in order, he is visibly upset to see the photographer but before that he doesn't seem in the least 'thrown off'

I just checked the settings, thank you for the suggestions! But nope, the previews thing is still set to on, everything is as it was before. Haven't used a VPN or done anything different at all. They've just disappeared themselves. It's weird.

Anyway, thank you all for trying to help, much appreciated :) It'll be fine if it doesn't come back, I guess. It's just annoying in the case of like, tweets that might get deleted before I catch up on the thread or whatever and then I won't be able to see the preview and stuff.

R185 yeah I missed the whole flight thing that was deleted yesterday because I’m not always getting previews. It seems to happen when I refresh the page if it isn’t loading.

I agree that the timeline should be hosted elsewhere. Doesn't Google have an online office section? I've been linked to spreadsheets before.

There are trainspotters. And then there are Madlynnspotters.

Richard Madden is not gay

R189 You know, with posting over and over again you're really helping bump up the post count. With your help we'll beat Richard to 33 for sure!

R179, just around the edges, dear.

I'm not very familiar with Google docs since it's blocked at work and tbh I can't be arsed once I get home lol but I will find a way to put the timeline in a more cohesive format for the next update.

Right now it's a 3pg+ Word doc with link citations and screenshots scattered throughout. I gave y'all the "cleaner" version but would like to be able to make the "master" easily and readily accessible to everyone so proof can just be yanked from the timeline whenever trolls come in making us feel like we're the crazy ones for seeing the relationship for what it is.

Also yes @ R148, I was HOWLING over RM's "friend"'s description of Brandon and the rationale behind RM's big move stateside. I knew y'all would enjoy that bit lol

R192 the only thing that stood out for me that was missing from the timeline was that Brandon went to London with Richard after NYC for a few days and that girl tweeted her mom met Brandon in the airport on the way back to LA

It’s funny because Richard would probably have taken forever to move to Hollywood if it wasn’t for Brandon. Like, having a boyfriend there definitely helped expedite the process. I’m still wondering how quickly they became official and what that conversation must’ve been like.

Oh yes R193 those need to be included!

Didn’t they leave for London from NYC on 5/30 and then brandon was seen by that girl’s mom on the flight back to the states on 6/3 (and it can be mentioned that he left a comment on Shaunking’s IG spots regarding the trump protest in London saying he just left from there).

IG post**

We could be cheeky and just post the timeline correctly formatted over on LSA.

The Madden Thread Starter seems a little... prone to make a fuss.

But it's possible to make posts as a blog, which reads like its own thread. I don't know how much the original post cam be edited, though.

R194 They seem so perfect for each other so I bet they knew pretty fast. I mean, Richard is so sure about Brandon that he’s willing to go this far with this relationship. I know people don’t think he’s out but he’s arranging his entire life around Brandon and them and that how deep he is in this. Fuck the consequences!

Also on 5/1 Brandon was spotted with his father in LA!

Brandon always carries marlboros with him LOL. Him and Richard have that in common as well.

Smoking cigarettes needs to be a thing of the past for these two.

4/9 Same day Richard was spotted with Charlie in a grocery store! Meanwhile the boyf was at another store probanly minutes away buying Charlie some dog treats! (But I’m guessing they were together in both stores but only got pictures taken with their own respective fan haha)

R194 I'm thinking the convo was basically Richard holding a boombox over his head outside B's apt blaring Ben Platt's "Share Your Address"

I had almost forgotten about them going to London after NYC Rocketman premiere. I know RM obviously had to be back for filming but I still kind of love that the NYT article dropped and they both just noped tf out of the country together lol

R204 I am actually screaming. Thank you for the laughs!!

Also do you guys think it’s weird that they were caught by the paps TWICE on 4/6? With the weed cigarettes and then again during dinner time with Jamie Bell and his wife? They obviously didn’t gaf that day

R205 and I’m sure Brandon thanked him SO much that weekend for his beautiful non denial response ;)

I'm judging their cigarettes choices. Red Marlboros are meh. They are also pretty strong. Bought them twice by accident and that shit almost burnt my lungs.

Same day? They changed from one ultra casual set of clothes into another set?

R209 I feel like it’s more likely the photos just came out on the same day but were probably misdated

R206 clearly too high to care about paps

R209 I've totally changed from sloppy early afternoon wear to sloppy late afternoon wear. Don't @ me lol

R206 Jamie and Kate (ok, more Kate than Jamie) get followed ALL the time. Like seriously, all the time. Remember how often Richard was photographed solo over that April- May period? If you look the Daily Mail, they make it look like he was followed about ONCE compared to them. I think them getting photographed with them at that restaurant was probably more about them than him. But also, I agree with r209, would they really change into MORE casual clothes to go to dinner with them?

For masterlist

4/4 Brandon reunited with bff Kevin at the gym and there’s a video on this account from 3/15 that Brandon posted on his story of Charlie in the apartment

R209 well when you get naked midday then you are allowed a new even more casual look after especially since you worked up such an appetite.

I still don't think they had dinner together. I think the Maras had dinner and R&B dropped by to collect takeout (they wouldn't bring Charlie to dinner, would they?). They exchanged greetings and walked together for a little bit.

I love that we have two sets of blue-shirted Brandon&Boyfriend walking Charlie pics (one Sam set, one Richard set).

One mystery still needs to be solved: Why do R&B feel the heat so differently?!

Funny that he needed a jacket midday and then a tee at night. Is that normal for California? B was in sandals at night and they were in boots in the weed pics.

Thank you timeline maker for the clarification that R WAS in LA for that B car picture because I defs think he took it now

Or well.. he could have still been there anyway

The pictures with Kate and Jamie were that Sunday. Richard had some Dateline Emmy thing? Whatever it was. The weed pictures were Saturday.

R217 he probably realized his mistake and left his jacket at home when he went out again. Must be weird to go from drizzly cold climate to a comfortable sunny climate. He hasn’t figured it out yet lol

Brandon was in Miami on the December 21st according to his IG stories posted from that time. I assume this was a later gram

There’s a huge thread of his most recent stories from around October-February. Babe was def thirst trapping in October/November lol.

R222 Which? The car pic? The timeline says it was on 12/20 so he could have taken it that day and gotten to Miami by the next day with no problem. But even if it was taken earlier that week it still could have been taken by R.

R223 you are my favorite person right now! That thread is hilarious

R225 hahaha I went through it all last night and just fell more in love with him. You’re very welcome! ❤️

R222 oh yes, very true!

Wow. That timeline is amazing. The details and effort you put into it. Well done!

Sorry meant that to R224 ^

Richard's living his best life

R230 Gosh I just love him, he really is such a sweet humble guy. I remember being so so proud of him when he won that Globe

How many of y’all have watched Ibiza on Netflix? I just started it because Richard Madden obvi and ugh he’s just such a cutie. His giggles are honestly the most endearing thing and I’ve never been more envious of someone (Brandon). I really would love to see him do more comedic roles.

R232 Ok his dancing while DJing *drools* there was a little grindy motion thing he did.. I need to go to sleep omg

R232/R233 y’all are welcome

Boo. Link not working

R235 Hmm idk it’s working for me :/

I thought something interesting happened instead of just pure speculation by a bunch of people adding ‘lol’ to any conversation. You can tell by the age group. Yes, I’m in the same boat as some sane people on here that think by stalking their every move is damn right creepy and analysing their every ig account too. You are not trying to solve a murder so stop it because it doesn’t look cute.

R237 no one asked you to be here so leave

R223 that’s Richard’s man ave he’s a gem

I really don’t know why I’ve been sleeping Brandon ... boy is pretty damn fine

He looks trashy AF here. Maybe Madden likes to play Neds in the bedroom.

wow checking this thread is something to wake up to! the guy who did all that work for us is stunting on his job LOL "boss makes a dollar, i make a dime, that's why i compiled an intricate relationship timeline on company time"

Who's the cutie in the middle?

R192 (timeline nonnie), I'm the anon who first suggested making the timeline in a Google doc/spreadsheet, so the link is easily accessible/share-able. I can open up a doc for you, copy paste into it everything you've written (with due credit obviously) and we can either figure out a way to give you editing rights (shouldn't be too difficult) or you can tell me what to edit and I'll do it in the file for you...

Also for the timeline, Richard wasn’t on a legit vacation in Ibiza with Ellie but more so he went there for research purposes for the movie Ibiza (which wasn’t even shot there...stupid director).

I was gonna even suggest creating a private Tumblr post for the timeline that's only shareable/accessible by URL, you can edit it accordingly and it's easy to keep discreet

Isn't he an Ibiza fancier of longstanding?

Side note, I don't know about you guys, but for me R234 shows up as broken and also in R167, instead of a link to what I assume is an external article about Richard and Ellie, I see a vid of him with Jenna, plus at R223 I don't see a link to any thread on a SM site, I again see one vid. DL can be... challenging.

R246, that's def a possibility, only Tumblr has been succumbing more and more to censorship, including an unofficially discriminatory censorship for gay content. Last I checked it was more on visuals than texts, but I just don't trust that site anymore since they introduced their new "anti porn" bot blocks.

R247, he's been vacationing on Ibiza for years. I doubt he needed to research a club/party scene he's been in for several yars.

R248 yeah I had to use my phone to access that B twitter thread because it refused to let me access it on my desktop

R250, I remember that this is what they said about R's trip to Ibiza back then even before him hooking up with Ellie there became more evident. Don't know if it's true or not, but has he been to Ibiza since? I have the impression he hasn't?

R251, thanks, I'll try my smartphone, we'll see if that helps...

clarification: in R252 I meant that I remember them saying he was there as preparation for the role in the movie. Maybe he was sent to shadow some DJs, which would not have been typical of going there to just party, so past experience would have been less relevant?

also, would someone be able to clarify something, in that B twitter thread there's a video (posted 14/10) with some chick doing her eyebrows and B is filming in the back dangling a necklace from his hand that looks kinda similar to the matching one, but there's no way that's THE necklace right? i'm guessing that was filmed before they even met

Some of y'all seem a little credulous. I keep having to remind myself that this isn't really a DL thread but a thread hosted on DL.

R255 at first glance it looks way too long. Maybe something she was going to wear and not his? But really no idea

R256 is this supposed to mean something

R243 That’s Ross Butler, B’s costar on 13 Reasons, who was also on the first season of Riverdale, but jumped ship when 13 Reasons became a series. He’s also caught up in the Cobain spawn trying to murder her ex husband.

R237 get that stick out of your bum and put a dick in it instead

r256 thinks DL is an exclusive club for [italic]la crème de la crème[/italic] of online literati. Later tonight, he'll pass out in a pool of his own urine.

r259 He's mixed up with Lutfi? Damn. Not good.

Thanks, r259. He looks less cute on Google Image search :/

R261, nonsense. There are one or more posters here who take everything said by these two as gospel. "Richard wasn't really vacationing in Ibiza, he was researching a role."

R223 Can someone tell me how to get to the thread? When I click on the link, all it does is play a video.

r265 If you're on a desktop let the video start, right click, and it'll say copy video address. Copy/Paste that in a new tab and it'll open the whole thread for you.

R266 Thank you!

I was just going off what the director Alex guy said about sending Richard and other members of the crew/cast to Ibiza months before shooting for research. He himself didn’t actually ever go to Ibiza at all and didn’t shoot the movie there. He did an interview with some huge dance magazine and they basically insulted him and called him out for his laziness. I’m sure Richard has been to Ibiza multiple times, but in that specific time he was apparently sent there for “research”.

That director sounds like an idiot. But the movie is called Ibiza so they have to sell that angle. Where did they shoot it?

OMG ... this vid, where he's lip syncing to one of the songs on his Richard playlist ... <3

R269 in Croatia....just so bad all around. I personally enjoyed the movie for what it offered (funny awk moments and HOT SEXY, BUT ADORABLE CHARMING RICHARD MADDEN), but this interview just made me realize that some people are not meant for this industry at all. He sounds like such a jackass.

R270 YES! He had posted a couple of the songs on his stories earlier in November but I think at that time he just liked them, but this video of him lip syncing to Only You is interesting...especially as it’s later in the timeline of when they were possibly connecting.

R270 he’s beyond adorable and seems cheeky but also sexy. Cool combination of characteristics

For the masterlist, add that Brandon was in Minnesota with his family atleast from 11/23-25 based on his Instagram stories.

200 comments and nothing new :(

Relax, r274.

R274 only thing new I can contribute is that B hasn’t been on IG for 11 hours now so I wonder if the service is shit where they are or he’s just been passed the eff out from traveling and jet lag. Still selfishly hoping for an IG story though

R275 come on let them be, we're all hoping for SOMETHING, it's been weeks

r276 Well that's like 8pm to now 7am so they were probably just sleeping and whatever else.

[quote]Also for the timeline, Richard wasn’t on a legit vacation in Ibiza with Ellie but more so he went there for research purposes for the movie Ibiza (which wasn’t even shot there...stupid director).

Looool. Research purposed. What research? Research how to party? No actor has to be sent to Ibiza to know how to play a character that is partying. Stop with that nonsense.

R279 just reiterating what the director said in an interview. Calm down, it’s not that serious.

Uhh you guys sound so uninformed. His character wasn’t “partying” in Ibiza. He was a world renowned DJ who was working in many of his scenes. So yeah I think he probably wanted to shadow a real life DJ to see exactly what they do. It’s not unheard of.

R215 Eh, maybe. I don't think Charlie being there necessarily means they didn't go to dinner, Jamie's kid was there too so it was obviously a casual evening. I still think there’s a good chance they ate together and it’s worth putting down as a “possibly happened” at least. But I guess it's equally likely that you're right and that they didn't eat together, I suppose there's no real way to know. The pap photo info definitely said they all left the restaurant together though, so the DM's "bumped into each other on the street" version was not accurate, which is worth noting.

R216 Yeah, it's funny that it's RICHARD who always has the jacket on. You'd think it'd be him, coming from much cooler temperatures, who'd find it way hotter, and Brandon cooler, with him being from Florida and having lived in LA so much longer.

Question, do we have to put the dinner with Lily in the same category as sightings like the Franklin Village dinner or last week’s walk with Charlie? I mean, I know we have no photos to prove it happened, but it just doesn’t seem like something anyone would make up. At that point, nobody but a few v observant fans knew anything about Richard and Brandon, and we KNOW they were there that night to see Lily’s play, and she’s a good friend of Richard’s, so the natural thing would be to go out and catch up. It seems pretty certain to me that that person wasn’t lying.

Thought this pic was interesting. Apparently R has flown private in the past.

r284 When was this?

Someone link the Brandon twitter thread for mobile users please. A comment without a video will suffice.

[quote]you guys sound so uninformed. His character wasn’t “partying” in Ibiza. He was a world renowned DJ who was working in many of his scenes. So yeah I think he probably wanted to shadow a real life DJ to see exactly what they do. It’s not unheard of.

He can shadow a DJ everywhere and doesn't have to fly to Ibiza to do that. The op also said that all the actors were sent to Ibiza to get accustomed with Ibiza.. Also, Richard's role wasn't such a serious role that you would have to "shadow a DJ" to be able to do that role... And what is most important. Do people really think that the director would send all his cast to Ibiza to do research and wouldn't fly to Ibiza himself to do the same if he thought that it was so important for the movie?

R287 I'm not the OP, but just chipping in to say, I don't think the director gave two hoots about that from the sound of things. That doesn't mean Richard didn't. He takes his work seriously whether it's a serious role or not, so yeah, as he was playing a DJ in Ibiza I could see him wanting to shadow a DJ IN Ibiza if he had the opportunity to do that, especially since he loves it there anyway.

[quote]e takes his work seriously whether it's a serious role or not, so yeah, as he was playing a DJ in Ibiza I could see him wanting to shadow a DJ IN Ibiza if he had the opportunity to do that,

A DJ in Ibiza isn't different from any other DJ in the world. I could perhaps see Richard in a club, because he was vacationing with Ellie anyway, and ask the DJ if he could look over his shoulders for a few songs. But Richard surely didn't fly to Ibiza with Ellie and spend one week there "to shadow a DJ".

..spent...

R289 Oh, I do also think it was a holiday with Ellie. Wasn't meaning to dismiss that side of things. Just thought perhaps Richard wanting to shadow a DJ there played a part in them being there.

Are they liking stuff or have they gone quiet?

R284 It was an ig story from November 15! November 17 there was a screening of Bodyguard at the Netflix Theatre in LA

R292 Total silence as far as I can see. Though mind you mu ig wasn't showing me Brandon't activity yesterday so you might not want to take my word for it!

So Richard went to LA on November 15, Brandon posted this ig story when he sings a song from Richard's playlist on November 16...I don't think it's a coincidence...Richard was in LA until November 18.

a couple lousey pix of em walkin together and u assume theyr lovers.

NOT

brandon way below Richards station in life.

git real mary

My ig activity was working yesterday (but I guess it could be fucked today lol) but yeah, they’ve both been silent for like.. 19 hours or so?

how much $$ did brandon get from s smith? in the end.....

My guess is they are somewhere with no cell phone signal... Maybe indeed hiking in the alps.

R296 Are you drunk typing? Sam?

In the alps there's a really good cell phone signal, unless you take some dangerous route reserved to expert climbers or hikers and I don't think it's their case

R295 Wow, interesting how it all fits together now!

R298 None. They weren’t married. It’s not like he sued him for alimony or something.

R301 Yeah, if Big Dick can post something one of the two can get out a phone and post something to put us out of our misery! I shamefacedly have to admit that my casual stance of “eh, maybe they’re together, but don’t get your hopes up regarding finding out whether they are or not” apparently has limits, and that limit has been reached 😆 Can B PLEASE post something that lets us know either way?! Like, if he didn’t go and he’s still in the States, fine, whatever. It’s the wondering that’s driving my curiosity crazy 😆 (Because yeah, obviously satisfying my “need to know” feelings is really what they should be worrying about here 🤦‍♀️)

I’m fairly certain they’re together, and probably in the Alps. But I would hope they have better things to do than waste time online (unlike us, ha).

you guys are such good investigators I won’t be surprised you find out the day they first slept together

R306 Perhaps someone is able to find a photo or video from the Halloween party they went together in October where they cuddle or even kiss in the background lol.

It's all over. Brandon was spotted lunching with Harry Styles in Cannes. He wants another openly gay guy his own age, so has ditched Madden.

R307 That’s made up

R308 Proof or it didn’t happen.

R308 you are so bad at this. It’s cringey.

R308 Are you the same one who was going on about Harry Styles in a previous thread? What is the obsession with that guy?

Going from RM to Harry Styles? Why would Brandon downgrade again?

R305 Ha, I knowww! But, like, is ONE picture or story or whatever of a mountain (or Charlie, if B didn’t go) or something too much to ask, really?! Then he can go right back to all the better things! And then I can… well, I can go back to being bored online and putting off the work I have to do 😆 but with my curiosity satisfied! No more would be asked!

R311 I give him props for spelling everything correctly, though. That’s an improvement over 90% of the trolls here.

The Spaz Troll rules this thread.

Styles is 25 and worth $75m. A huge upgrade from greying, fat Madden.

Brandon does seem to have a thing for British (uncut) dick so sure we can entertain this idea

Brandon liked Lily James' post about ten minutes ago for what it's worth on the IG front. Other than that he's been silent.

R316 I love when trolls like you suffer and feel bitterness because that’s all you have at the end of the day.

R319 And what does Brandon have at the end of the day? Oh, that’s right: Richard. To make sweet, sweet love to him all night long.

[quote]So Richard went to LA on November 15, Brandon posted this ig story when he sings a song from Richard's playlist on November 16...I don't think it's a coincidence...Richard was in LA until November 18.

Richard went for seconds. So is this when they made it official?

Considering that he went back to Ellie on the 18th, no.

R322 It is very possible that he started with Brandon before ending it with Ellie. I mean the timing overlaps a lot. Given we shall never know, anything is possible. He could also have broken up with her as soon he realized he had real feelings for Brandon. I will never understand what he saw in Ellie. Like was she just arm candy?

Does anyone know when B made the playlist? I think that would be pretty telling.

r324 He added them over time but the first three are from Nov 11th and 12th, the next 7 are Nov 26th and 27th, Hunger was added January 11th, and the most recent song is May 20th.

my guess is with free flights, meals and jewlely/clothes/kotex…..he got bout hundred grande ….with nother hundred for amour...

Didn't they met during the time he made the playlist. I doubt a 25 year old would make a playlist about an unrequited love. It seems like he probably had a clue R felt something for him as well

everyone know brandon and harry styles fuck like dogs when the get the chance. Richard wake up

What’s wrong with you?

Seriously, WHAT is the obsession with Harry Styles? Is there any proof Brandon and Harry even know each other? Is there a single photo showing they've even MET?

[quote]Considering that he went back to Ellie on the 18th, no.

[quote]He added them over time but the first three are from Nov 11th and 12th

Well, sometimes you just got to taste the forbidden fruit lol I mean like who here hasn't slept with a married man, right? We all have.

Put the troll on ignore

[quote]Didn't they met during the time he made the playlist. I doubt a 25 year old would make a playlist about an unrequited love. It seems like he probably had a clue R felt something for him as well

They had already met before, in October. He made the playlist for sure when he already knew that Richard and he felt something for each other. And that overlapped with with Richard's relationship with Ellie.

can we all just collectively agree to ignore anything this retarded troll says

who hasn't fantasised about a hot seemingly straight man in a relationship risking it all to be with a guy for the first time, B's living the fucking DREAM

R308 that was funny, write more

R335 You did it, baby!

*raises glass to Brandon*

R333 that's what I meant. They had met and became close. I doubt it was a silly crush that he felt that nothing would come of it

R325 such a good find

My most educated guess is they met, exchanged numbers, followed each other IG, etc, - probably a lot of friendly chatting at first which then gave way to more obvious flirting or even explicit sexting (it's possible). It would not surprise me if they actually hooked up in mid November when RM was back in LA for a few days for something. Then in December, RM and Ellie officially end things and it's Brandon for the win.

R331 admitting you were a mistress is not cool

i wonder when he actually named the playlist richard, the boy was not subtle AT ALL

R340 I think that’s very plausible.

I don't think the playlist tells us when they got together. But I do think it tells that if he started it and was adding songs to it that soon after that Chateau Marmont picture, man, he fell for him FAST.

No everyone has not had an affair with a married man. Some people have morals. Sometimes you have to put yourself in others shoes. You wouldn't want it done to you why do to others? I'm not a judgmental person and shit happens but to openly brag about it is not cool.

November 18 it's the last time he has been seen with Ellie so just to recap, they met at the end of October, on November 3 Richard started to follow Brandon, on November 5 there's the first pic together in LA, on November 11 and 12 Brandon started Richard's playlist. on November 15 Richard flew to LA, on November 16 Brandon did an ig's story where he sings a song from Richard's playlist "Only you", Richard flew back to London on November 18 and this is the last time that he has been papped with Ellie.

Oh to be a fly on the wall on that fateful night. I wonder what they bonded over.

R345 thank you

R346 so 2 and a bit weeks, LORD

I think they started messing around in October.

R350 there’s zero evidence to suggest they even met prior to Halloween

These past 3 or 4 threads have went to shit and are full of fanfiction type speculation, old news repeatedly being reminisced over and hating on his relationship with his ex that we know nothing about...

The breakup and end of Richard's relationship with Ellie were definitely messy. Ellie stopped liking Richard's IG photos at the beginning of December. That means they were together til then. And Richard and Brandon very likely did have something before that breakup judging from how Brandon acted. I guess they hooked up at the latest when Richard was in LA again in the middle of November. And in those last 2-3 weeks after LA, Richard visited his last event with Ellie together and she probably found out that he had fallen in love with Brandon and most likely hooked up with him during his last LA visit..

The relationship moved so fast (met in October, creating love playlist by the mid of November, B knew the parents by january, in february they started living together and if the past few weeks are anything to go by, they still aren't sick of each other), I'm expecting wedding reception by the end of the year.

Just kidding but DL would explode, lmao.

So we think Richard head back home to break up with Ellie? He probably felt that it was the appropriate thing to do since he probably was already head over hills for his boy.

[quote]Not everyone has not had an affair with a married man. Some people have morals. Sometimes you have to put yourself in others shoes. You wouldn't want it done to you why do to others? I'm not a judgmental person and shit happens but to openly brag about it is not cool.

R345, listen whore, don't talk to me about morals when you clearly lack them. This is DL sweety, you are posting in Brandon & Richard Maddens' thread of all places, get used to people being blunt because baby this is one of the cleanest thread you'll find here.

R348, no, do not thank the sanctimonious troll. What's wrong with you?

I agree that we’ve been going over and over and over the break up with ellie so many times and it’s really not relevant at this point

[quote]So we think Richard head back home to break up with Ellie?

The duration of his LA visit was already planned as well as the event visit with Ellie in London afterwards so Richard always planned to fly home to London after his LA trip.. He couldn't have just extended his stay in LA. And it seems like it took another 2-3 weeks until Ellie and he broke up.

"So we think Richard head back home to break up with Ellie? " If that were the case, they wouldn't have gone at that event together. And the insta likes would have stopped before December.

R355 listen faggot, not everyone had an affair with a married man

i think we're trying to keep this forum alive by any means possible until R's birthday

I don't get why everyone here is so certain Richard cheated and are really happy about it? personally I don't think he did but the glorification of cheating on here is odd and only reinforces negative gay/bi stereotypes

Wowwwww....

Anyways R finally joined B online so seems like they took a break from the do

Despite the murky beginnings of this relationship, where they clearly hooked up before Richard was free. I got to say, I am impressed by Brandon's boldness. His confidence can move mountains. lol

[quote] faggot

btw, the homophobe @ 359 is blocked. Go check on your pastor church lady, chances are he's probably diddling some poor boy.

Also I know people hate to admit it but relationships that start with cheating usually end from it too

It's a subconscious fantasy we all have, we don't need a lesson on morality. I'd like to believe E and R had an adult conversation about it.

perhaps it's different now because he's with a man. But I wouldn't bet on it.

R263 oh you blocked me , I will be crying whole night

Yes, r359! Get that f*ggot and protect your husband, frau! Watch out especially for his backdoor entry. Damn the cubefraus have evolved. Seems like a chord was struck.

Oh we’re back to the cheating accusations coolcool

Whether he did or not, we don’t know and it’s baseless conjecture sooooo

Could we MAYBE just leave the subject of Ellie and steer away from definitely declaring they cheated? At least for a while? It’s exhausting.

People have different opinions on how it all happened and that’s fine, and I get that the timeline is interesting. But unless R, B, or E decide to sit down and do some huge tell-all, we are not actually going to KNOW whether there was any cheating or when R&B actually became more than friends. The timeline of events as we know them is fun and interesting to put together but going around making definite pronouncements that relationship developments happened at certain times when we really can’t know that isn’t the same thing.

Here’s a video of Richard giggling and laughing so everyone shut up now

A lot of gay rep in TV shows and movies generally always involve the plot of cheating on a opposite sex significant other for someone of the same sex and those that are cheated on are always cast aside and usually end up being hated by the audience

R468 I dont have a husband

R370 so unless Richard and Brandon sit down and do some huge tell-all about their relationship you won't believe that they're together? Because all we do here is following their movements and tracking their comments and likes. Just like we did with the timeline of the breakup and the messy situation with Ellie. It's exactly the same. But you choose to believe that Richard and Brandon are a couple because of what we see but totally dismiss everything surrounding the breakup and its messiness.

i think he definitely cheated emotionally at least. But relationships usually end in turmoil anyway. And it seems like he didn’t drag it on with Ellie and ended it fast. Also, how serious was he about Ellie? Maybe their relationship was already fizzling or not as fulfilling for both. It happens. So this assumption that there was drama, might be wrong.

People (women) here don’t want to accept that their precious babies R & B can be cheaters but it’s entirely possible they did. So what, who cares. If it bothers anyone that much, why stay in these threads and obsess over relationships that aren’t yours?

R372 This is why I fear the truth coming out. I definitely think they hooked up before he ended things with Ellie.

R376 No one is saying that there isn’t a CHANCE that cheating occurred but there’s a difference between saying “yeah it seemed a bit messy from an outsider’s pov and maybe there was emotional or physical cheating prior to R finally ending things with Ellie” and saying “oh he for sure he cheated on her without a doubt”

R374 WHAT?! That is completely not at ALL what I said. I said people have different opinions on the ending of Richard and Ellie and the beginning of Richard and Brandon and when and how it all happened, and that’s FINE. Probably, somewhere among the various opinions something of the truth of what happened might actually be found!

But the subject has been rehashed constantly, and it always goes the same way- some people declaring without a doubt they ABSOLUTELY cheated, others saying they don’t feel comfortable saying that without proof that that happened, and various arguments happen. It’s just tiring. And no, no putting together a timeline of events that we know for sure happened isn’t the same thing as declaring we know without a doubt stuff that happened in private between various people and relationships. To say “we know Richard was in LA on this day because this picture puts him in LA on this day” is not at all the same thing as “Oh, for SURE Richard cheated”.

And from everything we’ve seen from both R and B, they’re both genuine, nice guys and I’m sure if there was any kind of overlap R and B would both not feel great about it

Did someone really suggest that cheating with an attached man is a gay/bi stereotype?

R376 You are the one who thinks they 100% cheated and we just don’t know. Everyone is being open minded about things just stop acting like it’s a fact cheating was involved.

Oh, how simpler stuff would be if Ellie was just a beard or a FWB. Is it possible that they haven't specified that they were in an exclusive relationship? Maybe Ellie just assumed that and ended up getting her feelings hurt or something.

Also Ellie is still over there doing her thing and being fabulous. Stop fake-stressing for her.

What did they first bond over? Probably music, hence the playlist. Temptress Brandon was workin' overtime with his music choices.

I bet all his lady loves were beards anyway.

I think R and E definitely broke up in Nov but kept up the social media likes until Dec when I'm sure she found out he was seeing B. Not saying he cheated but R definitely put an end to things with E once B was in the picture.

Just because they liked each others photos says nothing. They were done in Nov.

I wonder if Richard did coke in Ibiza... for research purposes.

R385 no idea but I’d really love a video of them interacting, doesn’t even need to be physical, I just wanna see them being cute and flirty because you KNOW they probably laugh and smile so much with each other

R385 they bonded over their shared love of dick and the standard shared sense of humor and they make each other laugh.

dumbass R382 what? I never stated they cheated and I like everyone here don’t know anything for sure. Maybe Richard cheated, maybe he didn’t. I just find it funny that people like you are stamping their feet over this when it’s all conjecture anyway. We’re talking in circles,

R391 agree. These threads go fast because we all say the same things over and over

Baby B save us please! Give us a mountain or something

Of course Richard loves Dick but Brandon didn't encounter Dick until the dying days of December.

R386 Not beards, he’s bisexual

we are sure that he is bi?

R396 Nope. Again lots of speculation here

His public romances have ALL been women, so it's not speculation at all to say that he isn't gay. He's most likely bi.

CTFU the idea that B posting a picture of a snowy mountain is the only solution to calming us all down is so funny to me and a true testament to how deep in this rabbit hole we are

R399 It would provide a distraction for a solid 42 minutes I’d wager

Yeah, mountain pic would be nice (or Charlie in LA if he didn't travel to Europe but I think je did). End this madness!

Fuck you hos

R402 touché

Lmfao I've decided to just accept how pathetically and ridiculously invested I am in this entire saga.

R404 LOL every now and again I stop and reflect on my involvement in these threads and ask myself if I'm crazy batshit insane... the answer is absolutely yes and I refuse to stop

How exciting these threads would have been if we had been following this from October, we really missed out on the golden period

It can take a while till we get anything new. Just go and watch Bodyguard in the meantime. It is really good!

I don't think they cheated, we don't know how was his relationship with Ellie so we don't know how things were between the two in November, obviously, if they broke up it wasn't good, I think that Brandon and Richard became close really fast and Richard ended things with Ellie before starting his relationship with Brandon. Emotionally I think they were already involved at the end of November, I think they talked a lot on the phone and they became friends first, even now that they are together I think they are lovers and also good friends, I bet they have a lot of fun together.

You can't just bring animals anywhere internationally. There are quarantine laws, no?

Yep there are laws. I think Charlie is with Kevin. They all live nearby so it makes sense.

Richard liked this, they are going, right? I'm sure that Brandon will let us know Lol!

Wow, I leave for an hour and this thread goes fully downhill...

When has it ever been uphill these past few weeks

R406 I’m glad they had time to build in privacy despite some sam smith fans and madden fans picking up on them by January.

R411 I still think after this trip Brandon will be going to PRIDE during that time, but who knows either way. His boyfriend LOVES Glastonbury so he’ll probably find a way to do both.

R413 it has its highs and lows but the highs are usually short lived before the trolls infiltrate

R414 he could go to Glastonbury for the first couple days and then fly to nyc for the parade on Sunday. Definitely doable

'Everyone know brandon and harry styles fuck like dogs when the get the chance. Richard wake up'

Yep, Brandon goes wild for Harry Styles' nine inch nail, which we've all seen online. Both are vers so they flip and flop, which Richard refuses to do. He only likes to top.

R416 Don't forget Sophie's wedding... that may interfere with Richard's Glastonbury plans this year if that report of it being in June was correct.

We'll know uphill when a photo emerges, we've been deprived for so long

R419 To be fair we did just get B accompanying him on the Boston trip days ago 😆 But yeah... we are sorely deprived photos-wise, true!

R411 Thank you for bringing useful information into this thread. It’s a nice reprieve from the circular arguments and moronic trolling.

Uh, surprise guys! B is in Italy, not the alps at all!!

OH WOW PLOT TWIST

He's looking good!

R422 He looks so good!!

So they are in Italy!

Harry is in London, so Brandon will sneak out for an afternoon of wild 20 something fucking while old Richard is on the set of 2017. Styles is also fucking Timothee Chalamet, but he makes time for Brandon's hot ass. Maybe Timmy, Brandon and Styles will have a threesome.

No wonder Brandon went to Boston and Richard flew to LA....because they knew they would be separated? (I mean Richard could be with him but ehhhhh who knows)

He could have still flown with him to Frankfurt and gone to milan today. The timing of the flight/ig activity was wayyyyy too convenient.

Harry Styles flew out to Milan today for the Gucci show. Yes! They will hook up for sure.

where's Richard?

She saw Brandon in Milan

WOOOO we manifested that picture into existence!!

Some of you guys think a flight from the alps to Milan takes all day.. it’s like 45 minutes

Everyone else in the 13RW main crew were doing fashion shows so it was only a matter of time.

I don't know about Richard being there too... I've run a search for him and so far there are no photos of him there, I don't think. That doesn't mean he ISN'T there, I think those photos get put up gradually so he could well be. But no mention of him so far.

R422 Look at that satisfied smirk. That’s the face of someone who’s been getting some good dick.

We aren't accustomed to the convenience of European travel!!

No couple is complete without photos of them side by side looking bored as shite at a fashion show

Unexpected but I'll take it. If R's with him or with historie family remains to be seen (or not).

The smile

In Europe and the UK, all the best places like Ibiza, Milan, Rome, Mykonos, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Santorini and London are a maximum of three hours apart, often much less.

B Looks really good

You can drive from Chamonix to Milan in about two and a half hours, so it still possible that they were with R's family....

Very true! We will never know either way

Yeah, I don't think R is there. Not at the Versace show, anyway. There's no sign of him among the Getty photos. B looks like he's enjoying himself though!

Fashion shows are also about 20 minutes. It’s a super short time commitment

Gorgeous smile

Maybe Richard is in Milan too and they'll go to dinner together and we'll get a pic! Lol Brandon looking good and with the necklace!

Sexy!

R448 I had to zoom in to look at the necklace. The more I think about it, the more I think it’s likely the necklace was a gift from Richard, especially given that’s he’s friends with the designer. No, they don’t have matching “couples” necklaces, as some onliners have speculated. But it seems to have meaning to B so I’m choosing to believe it was a gift from R.

Also... Brandon has chest hair? Not much, but it’s there. I never noticed before. lol

I love how in the first pap sets we ever got of them, the necklace was hidden but then shortly afterwards he stopped giving a fuck LOL. He looks beautiful! He was liking Mahershala Ali’s IG posts of him being in Milan. I wonder if he’s seen them (mini true detective reunion).

I wanna think Richard is in Italy with him but... I think if he was he'd probably be at the Versace show. He knows Donatella Versace (well, he knows her a bit, he talked in an interview about talking to her about John Reid.) I think it's more likely the guy on the plane was right and he was alone and B went to Italy. But it's fine, it's not a bad thing! We know they both made the effort to have that but of time together before this time anyway, with R zooming back to LA and B to Boston.

R451 Yeah, I think in the first few threads it was agreed that Richard had a different symbol on his necklace from the same brand. And same, I think it’s most likely a gift as Jenna Coleman was also seen wearing a necklace like this during their relationship. Not sure about Ellie.

Why the fuck would Brandon go to Milan a day earlier and not post anything not to mention him getting on ig the minute after the plane landed. Y’all are exhausting with this

I used to doubt the origins of the necklace but after watching a lot more of posts of Brandon and the twitter thread of all his stories, it’s obvious he’s always worn necklaces but changed them from time to time. Then this one that matches Richard’s showed up this year and never gets changed out.

Ugh this king, I wasn't expecting to root/fall in love with B as much as I have

R457 SAME!!!!! I never cared for 13RW (and actually rooted for it to get cancelled) but now I plan to binge both seasons before the third one comes out lmao

Milan Fashion Week was OURS!!??!

Also, it’s nice to see Brandon out doing this Milan show. The haters who claim all he does is follow Richard around can choke on their bile.

This is his first professional appearance since the rumors officially started, interesting.

And wow anyone accusing him of following Richard around has obviously never been in a relationship before ESPECIALLY one that is currently in its honeymoon phase. He is clearly done with filming right now, so why wouldn’t he? Richard also flies to him when he doesn’t have to do it seems pretty mutual on both ends.

R458 his charm is inescapable! and LOL same with me regarding 13RW I'm now finding myself getting defensive over the show despite having never watched it

R458 Brandon/Justin is by far the best part of that show. The lead character (I’ve already forgotten his name) is insufferable.

That’s Richard’s love. Awww

@r457 I wasn’t expecting to root him either, but here we are.

Come on, if Brandon went to Europe alone, why the silence on IG? I traveled recently from South France to Milan and the distance is nothing! It takes less than 3 hours with a car from Chamonix to Milan!

I don't know how to link them here but that girl who tweeted about seeing B has a couple of really cute pics of him up on her ig (which is linked on her twitter.)

We all came here for Richard and stayed for Brandon.

r453 We have no idea where Richard is period. We know Richard went to Germany. That's it. He could really be anywhere. Milan is hardly out of the question.

R466 Yeah, I’m inclined to think they traveled to Europe together, and probably spent yesterday together chilling and exploring before doing their own things for a bit today.

He looks good as SHITTT

More of B.

Cute!

CTFU the same post three in a row

His "I'm getting good D" smile

Well, the silence on IG COULD have just been Brandon travelling to Italy and being jet-lagged or whatever. Boston to Italy is a long way and instagram activity stuff can end up working out to be a weird coincidence sometimes. But I agree that we don't really have a clue where Richard is right now.

WOW, this is the first time in a while I’ve seen a Bflynn without his signature earrings. He looks so stunning!!

Just check Weibo or something. I'm sure Richard will turn up in Milan soon. Or both of them sighted in the same place soon.

He’s carrying cigarettes right? I can’t tell what that box is in his hand

If Richard isn't there do we really think he just decided to randomly bug his parents during their European vacation? That seems weirder than him just chilling in the hotel while Brandon does his thing.

Now I'm waiting for Brandon to post a pic of himself looking sexy at the Versace show and Richard to like it!

Yes. Ciggies. They should smoke more pole instead of the cancer sticks.

OK, like I promised, I did a copy paste of the timeline text as was posted here into a doc file and I'm sharing the link. Everyone should be able to see it but without editing or commenting rights. I am here to help in editing the doc, as you guys have pointed out that IS needed, just not right now, because I'm about to go out with my family to belatedly celebrate my birthday (though the Milano sighting has already been added).

R484 Much thanks, and happy birthday!

It looks like a vape pen! I have a feeling Richard is in Italy too, we'll see! But I think they'll reunite soon!

R484 Doing the Lord's work. Thanks a mega tonne! Enjoy your birthday celebrations!!

Richard, be careful! Brandon is in Milan for men's fashion week and he might unwittingly find a hot Dutch male model that catches his eye. He's still young and after a few drinks, innocent making out may lead to something else....

R485 and R487, my pleasure! Thanks to the original timeline nonnie and to everyone who has/will comment with corrections/suggestions for the timeline. And thank you for the kind wishes!

R484 Thank you so much and happy celebration! Brandon looks so good! Hope we get more pics!

R484 Thank you SO much! That was a huge undertaking. Hope you have a lovely celebration (and a belated happy birthday!)

Brandon is fucking The Rob Stark and that smug smile shows it

we need to help out and gather some links and stuff to make it the Ultimate timeline

What is the connection between Brandon and Versace? Is it a part of the 13RW promo? Did he do a Versace show before?

[quote]In Europe and the UK, all the best places like Ibiza, Milan, Rome, Mykonos, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Santorini and London are a maximum of three hours apart, often much less.

Really, that close?

It takes 24 hrs to travel from the Southern border of California to the Northern border of California. My god, you Euros have it so easy.

R494 in 2017, he did fashion shows with Tommy Dorfman (costar and friend) so yeah it’s not his first rodeo!

R495 Yup, it is really that close!

R495, those are flight times.

r395 I'd say 3-5 hours direct flight.

I live in London and there are so many cheap flights to France, Italy, Spain and Greece. Only about £100 return sometimes. We often go to Ibiza or Mallorca for a 3 day weekend. The flight time is 2 hrs 10 mins.

Did anyone see these before? Brandon looks crazy good!

I kind of wish B wouldn't cut his hair so short. Don't get me wrong, he looks hot as hell, but his hair was just really perfect in 13RW season 1, and he's worn it shorter ever since he had to cut it in season 2. And then it looked really good in those first pap shots, but he cut it again :P Ah well. He's super gorgeous no matter the hairstyle, and like I said, looks REALLY good in those Versace show pics.

R502 I agree that i found his longer and crazier hair more attractive (but that’s just personal preference). He’s always been super adorable/pretty in the face.

Very good photo of B's necklace. Anyone know the meaning of it?

The link didn't post. Let me try again.

lel i'm going through that thread of B's insta stories and this was his story the very first day of him following R back... thirst trap bby

[quote]And from everything we’ve seen from both R and B, they’re both genuine, nice guys and I’m sure if there was any kind of overlap R and B would both not feel great about it

They look like nice people and that's the reason why they would never cheat? Ok.....

[quote]those are flight times.

ohh, I should have known. lol

I'm just used to driving everywhere in SoCal that I forgot Airplane is probably the preferred way of traveling everywhere else.

R507 Did I fucking say they wouldn’t cheat because they look like nice people?? You even quoted my post and can’t fucking read apparently Christ

R502 THIS right here is my ideal hair - slightly insane and all over the place.

And hahahaha oh yes he knew what he was doing R506 and luckily for him, it worked!

Oh no no, please no more cheating talk! I can't accidentally find ANOTHER picture of him surprisingly in a totally different country than the one we thought (hoped) he was to get the conversation moving forward instead of circles again!

R484 you're a star, tysm for taking the initiative on that. I'm the original author (shiny new registered name bc DL seems to work better if you're registered). Hooray for creepy teamwork lol

R493 I actually have a ton of links as well as screenshot receipts, just like I said, gave y'all the bare bones to start with. But for sure, new stuff and corrections, if links are provided right off the bat, makes things a helluva lot easier!

And holy fucking shit, did I just become jealous of Richard Madden having that sweet little twink ass all to himself? I think I just did. B is smoking hot in those Milan pics!

I just want pics of the boyfriends in love in Italy! thanks!

I only knew of B as SS boyfriend but then he did the school teacher project. And I remember thinking, Sam you utter idiot!

Don't make me get my Tarot cards people!

Then, you'll really know if they cheated or not.

R503 R510 This is my favourite hairstyle on him. But like you said so well R503, it's just personal preference. He looks great no matter what way he wears it.

Mmmmmm, Baby was having a good time in Italy.

R516 Why is his nose so red in that picture?

Who is this guy in the pink suit?

Brandon has posted IG story from Milan - hey boo, we see you seein' us bahahaha he's telling everyone to play nice.

R517 I like this Milan hair. Very Richardesque

R518 ha, no idea. It's a screenshot from 13RW so maybe it was just the lighting in the scene. Or maybe his character was emotional, I really can't remember.

R520 Ah come on, NOW he posts?! Seriously?! B, we needed you EARLIER.

R512 ah so you're the one that actually wrote it all up? THANK YOU!! hopefully the google docs author will grant you permission to edit

I love y’all for posting pics but how many times can the same set of pics be posted? Let’s not waste posts..

[Quote] He's super gorgeous no matter the hairstyle,

No. Bangs are his friend. He needs the softness.

I still need to learn how IG works. So when there is a pink ring around the persons user picture, it means there is a new story? Cuz' I don't see it listed in my IG

I don't think Richard is in Milan and that would make sense with that guy saying he was alone on his flight. They don't have to be together all the time.

R525 Well, like I said, my personal preference on him is the longer hair. I'm not crazy about the super short look. But I don't think there's ANY making that face not gorgeous!

R527 just ignore the things that indicate he did fly with him right?

R526 yes, that’s correct

R526 yeah the pink ring means they've got a story up, just click on their profile picture to view it

Ha, perhaps Brandon is meeting up with Aron Piper. They both shared the same Instagram picture of the Versace car and pink flowers. Now that would throw an interesting spanner in the works.

R529 Nothing indicates he flew with him except ig activity. Which we know can turn out to be a coincidence, because it's happened before. We actually have someone on Richard's plane saying he thought there WASN'T anyone with him. I'd love to think Richard is there but I don't think it's crazy to think he might NOT be.

If Brandon took a direct flight to Milan from Boston he wouldn't have been on IG when he did that night. The flight is longer than the one to Germany. I guess he could have left earlier but if I remember correctly he was on IG a lot that day so I don't think that's the case.

R532 Someone recently said that apparently Aron Piper identities as straight but is a huge LGBTQ ally, but I ofcourse don’t know that for facts. He still likes B’s photos though on Instagram.

Of course they flew to Europe together. I also doubt R would skip out on Milan. He may have given the show a miss to avoid the press. Though, Donatella probably wouldn't be pleased about that.

Richard could easily be in the hotel waiting for Brandon, just like Brandon was for him in Boston and NYC while hanging out with his best friend during Richard’s promo on GMA and Live With Kelly! It goes both ways, I’m sure. Plus Milan would be an amazing place to spend days leading up to the birthday or atleast one of them.

A couple of more pics.

R535 Aron is straight but he did play a gay character so loonies tend to confuse fiction and real life.

R521 Ha! I noticed that too. I thought Brandon had been wearing his hair more like Richard’s.

I think part of the reason is that maybe he’s vying for some more mature roles and he looks so much younger with his shaggy hair (which I love, BTW). Just a theory.

Well if they are in Milan together I'm sure the Italians won't let us down

[quote] They both shared the same Instagram picture of the Versace car and pink flowers. Now that would throw an interesting spanner in the works.

R532 , Aaron is thirsty AF. Uh oh Richard...

Re Aron Piper: Well we have witnessed the unparallel powers of Brandon Flynn. I'm sure Richard stays close.

R540 That’s a really good theory. I think the cast of these Netflix shows know what it’s about after season 3...I heard 13RW most likely is getting a 4th season, but it would make the most sense for the current cast to already be looking at roles to take them further outside of the show.

R533 lack of common sense is astounding. And no one said Richard even had to be in Milan. But the likihood of them having flown together to Frankfurt to spend the day in the Alps together before B took a 45 min flight to Milan for a short commitment is way higher than whatever “logic” you’re trying to use. Especially given the pretty exact ig activity and also lack thereof of B posting from Milan before now.

R534 yup.

Since we a photo of young BF. Here is Richard.

If Dicky (or Brandon) tends to wander, a same sex relationship might be best for them. They may choose monogamy of course, but old habits die hard.

I imagine Richard getting a hard-on in their hotel room while watching Brandon get ready for the show...

R546 Those beautiful lips!

These trolls. Now we have an Aron Piper troll for no damn reason. Lol

R545 No common sense just for saying it’s not crazy to think Richard might not be in Italy with him? Because of not assuming anything for certain based on instagram activity?! Ok then...

Brandon looks hot as hell at the show

R551 are you the one that doesn’t have reading comprehension? I didn’t say Richard is in Milan!!!!!!!! But it’s pretty obvious they both flew to Frankfurt together and if you wanna be obtuse about it go ahead but it’s been discussed to death already so keep up

R540 R544 I too think this is a really good theory, and strengthens my theory that the show might NOT be getting a season 4 at all. I’ve read Netflix has an unofficial rule- unless you’re at Stranger Things level of success, they end most of their shows after 3 seasons because they get so much more expensive to make, and that would definitely be true of 13- Brandon and his cast mates got a significant pay raise for season 3, and the way the contracts worked out they’re in line for another one in the event of a season 4. 13 has been a huge success for them, true, but it’s also hugely controversial, and it doesn’t match the success level of Stranger Things. And I’ve noticed other main cast members have also changed up their looks quite a lot since season 3 filming ended, where they kind of just stayed the same before. I actually hope I’m wrong, I seem to be one of the few who does watch and actually *like* the show, so I’d love a season 4. But I’m not getting my hopes up high for it.

R512, it really is my pleasure. Welcome to the registered users realm, Shameless, I like your nick. I'm happy to help and if you want editing rights for the doc, I'm sure we can figure out how to communicate regarding that. I'd love for there to be links included for as many of the items as possible. Links to screenshots too, if nothing else is available, but I'd obviously need help since I'm a recent arrival to the thread.

In that context, were the MJ cigs pap pics taken on April 8th or 7th? I know someone mentioned 8th, but the link I found and included for the pics says 7th...

Has anyone considered that Richard could be doing some prep stuff for 1917 somewhere else in Europe?

r556 Every report says it's filming Scotland and England. Everything else has happened within the UK so I doubt he's in like Germany or France or something doing film work.

R555 the pictures were first published by madden fan accounts on April 6th. And the ones of them with the pizza and Jamie Bell were also dated April 6th.

Omg I hope Richard is in Milan .. a romantic getaway in Italy ✨

At this stage, Madden likely only appears in 1917 as an oil painting.

R556 Yes I considered it but they aren’t filming anywhere else

R560 Or a corpse on a battlefield :P (though I like the idea of a painting better 😆)

R554 13RW is one of Netflix’s top shows (come on cowards release the numbers!!!), and arguably I would say on the level of Stranger Things NOW in terms of people being able to recognize it, but yeah I’m not sure what’s in store for that show’s future (especially as I have not seen a single episode yet). I know the lead actress has moved on and did Love, Simon and is now on to another Netflix production “Cursed”, but apparently given the show’s trajectory in plot, she kind of had to leave right? I could see 13 reasons continuing into a 4th season, but between what those actors are now getting paid per episode and with stranger things, it’s obvious Netflix is going to have to start pulling back. Also, The Office is slated to be taken off of it in a couple of years once the contract is over and NBC brings it to their streaming platform, so that will hurt Netflix as well. But basically TLDR, I hope Brandon enjoys whatever time he has left on this show before moving on to some indies or other cool TV shows with an awesome subject. Netflix is also known for reusing their stars for new shows, so I wonder if he would ever resign with them.

R557 england and Scotland are in Europe? I meant somewhere else than Milan

Didn't a girl tweet that her mom worked at an hotel in England and that Richard would stay there soon for 1917 filming? And wasn't 1917 supposed to finish filming at the end of June or something like that? If so, Richard would have to fly to England during the next two weeks for filming.

"I would say on the level of Stranger Things NOW in terms of people being able to recognize it" Only Stranger Things is known for good things and 13RW is knows to be a crappy show. That's what I knew it as before Brandon came in Richard's life.

r564 I was just saying that's where they were filming so it's doubtful he's somewhere else for it.

He could be in the uk right now, he doesn't get spotted on every flight

Just 2 days ago when Alisha and Tommy were at that Ferragamo show I thought how cool it would be if Brandon and Richard also went, but I guess we’ll get only Brandon for now

Yeah she tweeted that last week implying it would be soon. He was only on set for five days, which seems pretty minimal.

R566 Yeah, I was the person who said I was rooting for 13RW to be cancelled because I just thought it was having a net negative effect on social media and everywhere it was advertised, but the show is hugely popular for good reasons too amongst the demographic it’s intended for and celebs. The show is apparently better than Riverdale, but I know that’s not saying much.

R568 why would he fly to the UK via Frankfurt? Doesn't make any sense.

"why would he fly to the UK via Frankfurt? Doesn't make any sense. " It does if they wanted company for the better part of the trip.

They are both in Europe, which means they can meet up easily if they want. That's good enough for me.

Ocam’s razor, these two probably flew to Europe together and split up eventually for their own obligations.

R571 I can’t believe we’ve circled back to this LOL

[quote] Doesn't make any sense. " It does if they wanted company for the better part of the trip.

Then they could have flown to London and Brandon could have boarded another plane to Milan. But it doesn't make sense to fly via a destination where they would both need different connecting flights afterwards.

Seriously, why are you two fighting over this shit?

Everyone wanted an update and you all got an awesome one and you are back to bickering. Lol

R468 I personally came for Brandon and stayed for Richard

Anyone Want to prepare to post a new thread soon please?

R563 It’s really hard to say for certain because Netflix doesn’t release their numbers, but according to an article from one of those companies that does their best to estimate numbers, last season didn’t match Stranger Things numbers, no. I was surprised actually, I didn’t think it would match it (Stranger Things is watched by a much broader age range) but I thought it would level up better against it. However, it DID match up really well against the Crown, which is also said to be one of Netflix’s big successes. So, it’s hard to say really. Harder because again, this is just estimates, it’s not the REAL numbers. I wouldn’t take Katherine Langford leaving as a sign of anything either way though. You’ll get it quickly once you start watching, but basically, they couldn’t really have kept her around any longer. It already sort of felt like they were keeping her there just because they didn’t want to let her go by the end of season 2, and it REALLY would have felt like that if they tried to write her into season 3.

New thread op pic should combine Brandon seated at fashion show with a Richard one (e.g. when he was sat next to Vanessa Kirby). They're jetsetters, don't ya know.

A lot of the bickering is caused by people not reading through the thread and just continuing to post the same illogical arguments over and over and over and it gets very tiring

I’m gonna need the Italian/German/French/whatever nationality fangirls to come through with the RM sightings

R558, thank you. I changed the timeline accordingly, but it seems weird that there were three different sightings of them in that case on April 6th?

No, as I said earlier there are some very credulous people posting - that whole "Richard wasn't really on vacation with Ellie in Ibiza, he was WORKING". They argue points that don't really matter (Ellie and Richard were pictured in each other's arms in Ibiza, it doesn't matter if he's was going wicky-wicky on the decks, dearies).

Anyway I think both Brandon and Richard have shown us that they don’t mind flying a lot in order to spend even just one day together so it’s not the same as any of us travelling.. also the picture of Richard from earlier on a private plane indicates that they might easily charter a plane together to make flying short distances a lot easier

Pap pics should be dated from photo agency site information. A fan site may just post a bunch of days apart photos at the same time, which muddies the waters.

r587 Have they ever actually flown just to spend one day together? Most of the time it's a few, at least.

R588, so do you know the photo agency date for the MJ cigs pics and/or the pics with Kate Mara and Jamie Bell?

R587 I assume Netflix and the studio for Rocketman were the people in charge of ordering him a chartered plane for these already paid for travels. Actors don’t pay anything for promo travel.

The photo agency says April 7

I hope we get pictures of Brandon and Aron Piper. They seem like they could become good friends.

Fan accounts posted this pic on the 6th

Thank you, Maddynn! Fixing it now.

R594, anyone, link to a fan account posting it on the 6th?

R590, No. But the DM reported the marijuana pics on Monday April 8, claiming the pics wrre from Saturday, which would be April 6. The next day, the DM posted the pics witb Mara and Bell, citing a "Monday stroll", which would be April 8.

R595 dated the 6th when they posted but yeah I guess just go by agency details, it’s close enough lol

The weed pics couldn't be the 7th. Richard had a Bodyguard event all day.

R597, thank you! Link to the DM article referring to it as a Monday stroll, anyone?