British Royal Family Gossip: Part 72

When I look back upon these threads

It's always with a sense of shame

The Welp Troll is the one to blame...

Incredible how fast these threads fill up. I simply cannot keep up and I consider myself a long term fan of the BRF, even before Meghan. How much is there, really, to discuss about these people?

I think Meg has somehow suffered a “narcissistic blow” and is simply binge-eating to compensate.

The Queen mid-scratch.

We've all been there.

I notice the family always had their own cameras at hand during these times. Would be wonderful to see their private photo collections.

This is rather fabulous.

The Queen Mother living her best life , greeting her public, in Scotland in the '50's.

It's interesting how long the Queen Mother stuck around while her husband died so young. It'd be interesting to see how things would have turned out if he hadn't died so young.

Rather!

Quite!

Narc!

Sociopath!

Doria!

Greville Tiara!

Sociopath!

Woe unto house of windsor

May your horsey faces see the back of Great Britain

May your homely children, and your children's children, never see thy throne

May uncle gary finally be sent to the tower for his drug dealing and may his mansion le bang bang get burned to the ground!

Your Jowly Frauness shall never be Queen! Nor shall her beady eyed hard faced mother ever be Queen Mother (TM)

And yes, I still think louis looks like a Portuguese cab driver no matter how much sun-in and JustForBlonds they put in his hair. Those slanted dark eyes whisper the tale of yore. Of great swarthy men traveling across foreign land to take virgins and trade them for goats.

I'll say no more...I shan't....

Yep, R7.

Don't forget:

Merching!

Welp!

Treason!

The Welp Troll could leave here, if he tried

And he should

And left to his own devices

He probably would.

R2, the posts are mainly drivel. Meghan is the favorite topic because she gives them so much to work with: burgers, tossed salads, Adderall & cocaine addiction and being a postpartum cow!

It got pretty obnoxious at one point, with outright racism and notes of homophobia but, it's gossip! You don't need proof to gossip...unless you're talking about Alpha William and Saint Catherine of the Yacht and their brood of Precious Memories figurines come to life.

Basically...you missed nothing of value if you're a sane, reasonable adult.

P.S. Do the royal forums have any Bea/Edo updates? They're my favorite train wreck.

I bought you drinks, I brought you flowers

I read your posts and talked for hours

Every day, so many posts

Such ugly trolls , so tell me

What have I, what have I, what have I done to deserve this?

What have I, what have I, what have I done to deserve this?

Oh do shut up, R11. I can tell you aren't crazy but that's really not all that is discussed here. We pretty much put the Sainted Kate followers and the Meghan-breath-of-fresh-air fans on block. The thread runs pretty smoothly. I for one am sick of Markle. She's not that interesting. Should a fit of bitchiness so besiege me, I just go read the DM comments and go on my merry way.

Welp Troll in the open air

Welp Troll where the skies are blue

The Roving Royals.

R13, there are more Meghan fans than your ugly bigoted ass could ever block. Half the thread is taking the piss out of thick truthers like you with your unbridled lust for 'Catherine', the Egghead and their jowly, eye bagged childen.

Umm yes there are crazies on this thread but compared to some of the other syndicated DL threads like the ones on Richard Madden's fuck buddy, Shawn Mendes presenting hole and Chalamet and friends, these threads are mild and also low on imagination. I had hopes that this thread would become like the Jackie O ones- full of juicy, vintage tales of grift but alas, that was not meant to be

Begone R16. Off to Kaiser and CB, please. Thank you. Namaste.

And at R18, we have the notorious Celebitchy Troll! She is in love with Kaiser.

Archie's First Anti-Landmine Protection Suit. By Givenchy.

Yup, guilty, R19. I love her.

'Look like the innocent flower

But be the Welp Troll under it.'

R19 a quote for you :

"Food makes travel so exceptional, because you get to taste what it's actually supposed to taste like. To eat the real Pad Thai or finally have a proper curry is something pretty amazing. I dream pretty big, but truly had no idea my life could be this awesome. I am the luckiest girl in the world, without question!"

R16 Time to go back to the institution and get your meds.

I'm mainly here for all the photos of Andy especially astride his steed Darby. I would do him in a heartbeat

Yeah, R24, Im sold I think, I like a man who can scowl.

R13, found one of the loons!

Hi dear, are you the sad sack that was talking about a tea time buffet (!) from 40 years ago or was that another member of the lunatic fringe? That was funny and sad to read at the same time: typing fat while reminiscing about something from 40 years ago...a Mary! and Caftans & Earrings comment if I ever saw one.

I have several of the more severe posters on block, though you sound really angry and frazzled...need a downer?

The past several threads have been heavily focused on Meghan...too much chaff. But, despite what her detractors say, they clearly can't get enough of her.

Will the new baby be the first black man with natural red pubes?

R27 between your post and the one about Louis using Sun-In and JustForBlonds, I'm loving this kind of bitchery!

It's wrong but lighthearted; thanks for lightening up the thread.

Let's take a ride

Post with the trolls tonight

In Suburbia

Re: R23’s quote, a minor quibble.

That’s sort of insulting to all the millions of Indian and Thai people who have emigrated. Can they not make “authentic” dishes in another country?

r26- what are you ranting at me for? I said I don't think you're crazy (translation- you are not a crazed stan in the Duchess Wars). So take it down a notch will you?

The only thing the DuchArse tasted on her travels was cock, by all accounts.

This is a GAY gossip site. What else are you expecting if not caftans, tea parties from the 1940s and MARY! moments?

Two households, both alike in dignity,

In fair Kensington, where we lay our scene,

From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,

Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.

From forth the fatal loins of these two foes

A pair of star-cross’d lovers take their life

Their names live on always in English lore

Archie Windsor and Louis Cambridge - yes, a whore.

What’s Fergie up to these days? She’s been very quiet lately...

Two households, both alike in dignity,

In fair Kensington, where we lay our scene,

From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,

Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.

From forth the fatal loins of these two foes

A pair of star-cross’d lovers take their life

Their names will live on always in English folk lore

Prince Louis and his lover, Archie Mountbatten Wind-sor.

The poem thing is extremely embarassing. Please stop.

R37 agreed. Now can we please discuss the BRF.

Probably getting her wedding dress taken out...again, R35.

At this point, she'll make it up the aisle before Beatrice.

R35 - Fergie was at a Welsh cancer hospital recently. There was a photo of it on her Instagram.

The poem thing is the Prologue to Romeo and Juliet, you spaztastic illiterate fraus.

R39, she’s waiting for the old bugger to croak right?

Camilla was at the Fulham Palace reopening.

He doesn't believe in ties anymore? Harry arrives at Black Prince Trust today for the launch of"Made by Sport".

It looks like Harry had some trouble getting out of bed.

Does Harry not even hang his suits? You can see the folds.

Camilla dresses so well. I find Charles and Camilla the most well dressed followed by HM and Kate the Viper. Harry and Wills are really really nondescript and evidently Harry is now also an untidy dresser. Anne too is stuck in a time warp but it works for her severe image

William filled in for the Queen at a Buckingham Palace investiture. The second photo looks like Monty Python's Michael Palin is being knighted.

Princess Margaret in her wedding dress and tiara.

These threads are going by so fast you've only got to be in a different timezone and it's a new thread.

On the last one, R438 said "Kenneth MacMillan would never have done a ballet around the tragedy of Harry and Meghan."

For those who don't know, Graeme Murphy did a modern adaptation of "Swan Lake" for the Australian Ballet which was a fictionalised account of the Charles/Diana/Camilla triangle - and toured it to London, what's more. It's actually a beautiful ballet, and was released on DVD. There's a preview on YouTube. In the original productions, the fragile princess was blonde and the other brunette.

R7 - That's ad nauseAm and you bet your arse.

r50- wow, that sounds quite moving actually

R50 Camilla represented by that beautiful young brunette ballet dancer? In Camilla's dreams! (Although she did quite well with what she had - which talent is what really separates the women from the girls.)

Obliged for the information on Graeme Murphy's "adaptation" - very entertaining, indeed!

Cowmilla moooo

The beautiful young brunette in that production seems to be the "Diana" character (whom I've never seen played brunette before). The Camilla character is older and is usually dark haired and is dressed darkly, since she's effectively "the black swan" (though nobody is actually a swan in this retelling - the swans you do see are fantasies of "Diana's" disturbed imagination).

R26 - Well, haven't we got our knickers in a twist about a quite sweet reminiscence responding to another about Ascot and quintessentially English food indulgences?

Sweetheart, if that's your definition of down and negative and angry, you should probably stay away from the news reports. Relax. Get a massage to loosen up those tense muscles. Enjoy the gossip.

And by all means have a split stuffed with Devon cream and fresh strawberries. It will do wonders for your bitter angry accusatory mood.

Cheers!

So the Sussexes are going to Africa after all. Well, she'll still have instagram and you can be sure she ll be furiously creating SM-worthy "experiences" in Africa for the Millennial followers to wow at. This is the age of Kylie and Kendall, The british public will still hate her but she'll turn it into an "opportunity" for the American public. I'd put my money on it.

I can’t look at Andrew without thinking of Jeffrey Epstein. Make of that what you will.

R58 me too and that JizzLane person

R55 - Ah. Do you think they did that to disguise the roman a clef nature of the ballet, or was Murphy quite open about it, or did the dancer cast as Diana get the part on suitability as a dancer? Haven't had time to really look at the clip. Interesting as both Camilla and Diana were blondes. It's also interesting given Diana's early and longstanding interest in ballet. There's a photo of her at about 14 en pointe in arabesque on some wall at Althrop. She was of course far too tall to make it, with big feet to boot, and you can see in the photo that although she's strong, and got far enough to go en pointe, she's not "pulled up" the way someone fully trained is. But the early training probably added to those long smooth leg muscles that were her figure's real beauty.

R57 - Hadn't heard that. Link to story?

Oops sorry- it doesn't mention for how long they'll be in "the bush". I had read earlier in June that it would be a 6 month exploratory stay looking towards a larger role but this story makes it sound like a shorter trip.

"While the final itinerary for the fall tour is being pinned down by Buckingham Palace aides, the trip is at the request of the British Foreign Office and is expected to focus on youth empowerment, education and conservation causes close to the couple’s hearts. According to sources close to Harry and Meghan they hope to visit southern Africa “many times” over the coming years as they carve out new roles for themselves as “roving royals” working internationally, particularly in Africa."

R50 - Having watched the preview tape now, I'm impressed and think I may have to order the DVD. I thought I saw in some scenes involving the three shades of Antony Tudor's "Jardin aus Lilas", which was done for American Ballet Theatre. I saw it in New York years ago - the music is Chausson's "Poème". Tudor related hearing the piece in the bath, and the whole ballet (it's not long) taking shape immediately in his mind.

R60, I don't think Murphy ever came out and said it, but people quickly twigged and it was widely discussed in Australia (including, "Eek, wonder what they'll say about it in London!" when the tour was announced). Anyway, it's as clear as day from the opening scene, in which the young blonde discovers the Prince having it off with the other woman on the actual eve of their marriage. I attach a link to a review of the 2015 revival to show how well accepted it was.

Something DL-ers will appreciate, which you may be able to see in that clip, is that the wedding dress has an extremely long train and when he lifts her and it billows she sometimes takes on the shape of a swan. The set and costume designer, Kristian Frederick (RIP), did some beautiful collaborations with Murphy. And of course, Diana was famous for the extravagant length of the train on her wedding dress.

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R65 - Thanks for the Guardian review; the comments are interesting to read, as well.

So the pics of Frogcottage will be in the september issue of the British Vogue . That’s why we never saw the inside . As always she has to make money of it . I wonder how much she is getting ?

There is now a Replikate community

R68 - She can't make money from this. FC is part of the Crown Estates. Revenue generated by the Crown Estates is returned to help fund the Sovereign Grant and Grant in Aid, which is what paid for the renovations to FC in the first place. For the Sussexes to obtain personal gain from this would be the absolute apex of insult to the British taxpayer. If there are revenues, my guess is they will go to a charity or back to the Crown Estates. This is Sarah Latham, earning her 140,000 p.a. on the Sell Meghan Markle project. Harry isn't even involved, according to the story. As usual, it's All About Meghan.

Hi boys! You rang?

Didn't Harry just win some sort of settlement or lawsuit on photos of Frogmore Cottage that he said were a security risk and invaded their privacy?

Cant explain why I love this buffoonish gal at R71 but I just do. Will we and the unwashed masses ever come to such a level of unconditional acceptance of Megs? Time will tell.

R73 because she’s a hot mess like us commoners.

R71, good ol' Fergie never disappoints in looking like an abject disappointment. Going by her outfits, she's torn between rejoining the BRF (if the DoE ever agrees to meet his Maker; would be delicious if he's holding on to keep Fergie out) and being a sexpot past its use by date.

She's always been frumpy but that outfit is the absolute limit; her poor girls never stood a sartorial chance.

She’s praying for the Duke to die. They’ll be remarried soon after.

R69 - The RepliKate in the photo is missing something important: an eight-carat (give or take) oval sapphire surrounded by two carats in high-quality diamonds set in 18CT gold.

R69, that account has people dressing like Kate, Meghan and (non-royal) Pippa and from the 'replications' shown, the concept is a bust.

There's a reason these ladies work to stay so lean; the clothes will fit better. Doesn't hurt that they take advantage of tailoring services but that's available to everyone.l

That was a place in the Cotwolds not Frog Cottage R72

Fergie takes a break from milking the Windsor cows.

Fergie and Di had a much better relationship than Megz and Kate ever will.

R79 - Oh, thanks.

R72

R80 - I was thinking "Annie Get Your Gun".

R81 - I don't think Kate and Meghan have any relationship at all except in front of cameras, as opposed to Diana and Fergie, who actually were friends before Diana married Charles. The BRF all recognise Meghan for the Brand "Me!" grifter she is and they all dislike her. Any semblance of baseline courtesy is strictly for public consumption. I doubt highly that Kate is dropping in at Frogmore Cottage with the kids so George, Charlotte, and Louis can get to know their new cousin and their Auntie Megs.

The "Africa Plan" is in fact the "Abroad Plan" so that the home field is left uncluttered for the Cambridges. It's perfect for Meghan: she gets to build her brand as an internationalist, because she's of absolutely no use to the BRF at home, and the Cambridges dutifully take up the mantle of Future P&P of Wales and then K&Q in the arena that counts for them: Great Britain.

Criminal fraud perpetrated on the British taxpayer!

so spot on R84. Was going to say the same thing. This Roving Royals plan will work out for all- clear the field for the Cambridges to come into a larger role and give MM time to turn this 21st century mild exile into a woke, international brand like Jolie's. The world is quite literally their oyster, without competing with Will and Kate who will always win with the British public, no question about it.

Also a win win for Harry if he wants to in fact divorce her..Africa gives him the time and space to roll out a "we grew apart" narrative in some years without accusations of the Palace interfering a la Diana.

Oh, we're still pretending Kate will absolutely be crowned Queen, R84? William will be King (unless he meets some early end) but Kate's not guaranteed to be his Queen Consort.

With the accusations of Will dipping his quill in other ink pots, we would be wise to hold off on measuring Catherine for her ermines just yet.

Thank goodness she has her career to fall back on...

“Delusional Frau!”

“My sister-in-law”

I doubt Harry wants to divorce her after just having a baby. Maybe down the road, but some of these comments are crazy.

R87- Do you live in Neverland? Or in a zone divorced from reality? William will never leave her. Period. The wandering penis has nothing to do with it (true or false), Kate is part of his brand now. His brand which is Not Charles and Diana's Serious and Sensitive Son. May have very little to do with what he's actually like but his wife is mother of the future king. He's tied to her. Diana would have stayed married too had she not started leaking. That's just real time politicking for a future monarch.

Harry might have the freedom to divorce and he might just but not till Arch is more grown up

I do find it fascinating that all of The Queen's children are divorced, save for the one in a lavender marriage.

relax r89, wasn't suggesting that he will. Just makes the whole PR situation and tensions easier to manage

Kate and Carole would hold a pillow over Will’s face while he slept if there was any inkling he was divorcing her. If she can’t be Queen Consort, she’ll at least be Queen Mother.

On whose dime will #6 and his wife pro tem be Roving Royals?

Really, this might be Romania!

I know what you mean R2! This is at 95 already, so I'm getting my questions in early.

May I ask how the Bean came about for Meghan? I was looking back at a Tendrils thread and it must have started there.

Also SSAA - ???

R63, roving royals, ie jet set limousine liberals

Her father called her Little Bean. She often referred to it on The Tig, when she sang his praises and professed her love for him.

It was fun watching Brad and Angie (and to a lesser degree Clooney with his dabbling in Darfur) do the limousine liberal thing. In Angie's case particularly, she was imaginative and relentless in building this image so it was highly entertaining and even as a "camp" event, I found her drive endearing. But the thing is that it was all their own money! With these two, public opinion is essential..lets see how it goes down...

Megz is gonna hit the wall hard. She ain’t got enough black in her to not crack.

What is it that black don.t crack thing . They crack just like anyone else If they don’t do plastic surgery or fillers or Botox .

Thank you R98 - so just a Pappy Markle nickname. I was turning inside out trying to solve it.

'Blacks don't crack' is literally a meme that some people take way too seriously.

anyone with a shit lifestyle or sunny lifestyle is going to age horribly. plenty of terrible looking pasty or dark people waltzing around, and plenty looking good.

YW R102. Flower was Doria's name for her, apparently, and the Bean came from Papa, indeed. Her sister's name for her is probably unprintable, lol.

I’m sorry but “some” black ladies age very well without plastic surgery. I lived in Africa for a long time and saw many young looking ladies who turned out to be 50 or 60. These ladies were not rich and couldn’t afford surgery.

She’s Such An Asshole.

There was a troll w that nickname.

Frankly I am tired of these faux humanitarians usIng charity as PR while making minimal donations, I think Clooney and Jolie are even tired of the practice.

The Queen had an audience with the Australian Governor General designate and Prince William was there too. Dickie Arbiter, the Queen's former press secretary, thinks it's a good idea for HM to mentor William.

South Africa, Malawi and Angola are on the tour itinerary for Harry and Meghan. I wonder if they'll take Archie? She'll want to be like Diana who took William to Australia and New Zealand more than Fergie who left Baby Bea at home and got so much grief for it.

Andrew had entrepreneurs at St James' Palace.

One thing I do know first hand about the BRF is that they lie about finances, so as not to appear "too rich".

We sold a sculpture to Prince Charles for his garden in Highgrove. It was $275k, and he did receive a discount- but not much, maybe 20%. The official story was that it was donated. I know they receive plenty of expensive gifts, but this was not one of them.

I don't want to say too much, but he really seemed like an old queen to me. Maybe his upbringing, but he acted like an old woman- so fussy.

The 'avoiding appearing rich' is the core of the markle issue. She desperately wants to wow people with how lavish her lifestyle when that its the exact opposite M.O

Followup to R107, here is Will with the Queen today.

R86 - But what is Megs going to do with her million dollar wardrobe in Botswana?!

Diana wearing a gorgeous sapphire choker which made her blue eyes pop.

Totally true about appearing poor. Don't forget HM and Charles' offshore accounts revealed in the Panama papers. They are billionaires many times over. The Queen is just as greedy I'll bet. Drilled into her from her grandma and the Queen Mother.

It's Tiara Time. Please pick a number for your favorite tiara.

Oooh no.5!

Number 7, hands down!

Uh-oh. Potential ski slope nose alert.

I like 11. Simple with a huge rock in front.

14 is quite delicate and pretty too. Can imagine Euge or Charlotte wearing it

The Governor General of the Bahamas had an audience with the Queen today.

I like 11 as well.

I doubt Megs is going to be charmed by the plan to send her and Harry into the wild whilst leaving the glamour, buzz, and majesty of the capital and environs to Wills and Kate. Mehgan is no country enthusiast - the Third World is for photo ops, not lengthy stays.

My guess is, Meghan won't like it as much as she likes getting out of limos in front of the National Gallery, dripping with Dior whilst the cameras click. But she is smart enough to know that as she screwed her chances of winning over the British public and the British press, she should take the long view, grit her teeth and get through a few years of way too much time in the Third World, and then take the A-List Humanitarian advantage she gets from it, ditch the BRF and Harry, and run away with a nice settlement and no more lectures from the BP Press Office.

I like Camilla's cream coat and print dress.

I like Tiara No# 8 and #11 @R116

Doesn't matter how she feels about it dear, r124. What matters is how she can spin it,. Glamorous Gypsies can be spun.

How many marriages do you think Harry will have?

Does anyone wonder if spending so long in Africa will persuade Meghan to stop straightening her hair? I imagine the climate will make the whole process less effective against Mother Nature and more frequently needed.

I wonder how the cambridge kids will grow up, they do seem to be having a stable upbringing with the middletons and kate.

R129, most of South Africa is dry heat. It’s only further up north in Africa where it gets unbearably MOIST.

R128 - I wouldn't bet on him remarrying at all if he and Sparkle divorce. Like his Uncle Andy, he strikes me as someone who likes domesticity in theory, but not in practice. He does want kids, though. Two kids and a nice amiable quick divorce and I can't imagine Harry doing anything but having LTRs in future. Della was right: both these people are too externally focussed to make good bets for marriage. They'll both be happier outside of it after they have the kids. Sparkle may have to get remarried as for women it's still necessary to prove their worth to themselves and the world, but she really shouldn't. Unless she marries someone who can maintain separate palaces.

Louis will grow up to be a mix of James Middleton and Harry, with a lot more parental guidance than Harry ever did hopefully. Charlotte will 100% go the Anne route, but with a lot more personality and style. George is the wild card. He could be reserved like William, he could be woke gender fluid/pansexual Prince George (ok not really but that would be fun) or he could be sensitive and "misunderstood" oddball like Charles

R131 - Thanks. I forgot about the Sahel area and the southern more desert-like parts. However, either area is likely to be unkind to any woman's hair that requires lots of "doing".

The projected tour is obviously not going to be a short one, and it is vaguely defined as an "autumn" tour, with rumours that they will leave in October. This of course would mean missing Remembrance Day services, which after Meghan's first one last year, I'm sure will be a relief to all concerned.

I wonder if they will this summer show up at Balmoral with Archie, as they did not show last summer.

Markle should go the Oprah and Angelina route..not remarry but instead become a name or empire unto herself. She won't though.

She will remarry though**

R135 - Agree. Meghan is too vain not to get remarried. Angelina had her high-profile marriage to an A-list star and she's got the slew of kids and she clearly doesn't give two fucks what people think. But Meghan does; image is everything to her. She'll do her best to snag someone who outclasses Harry in the money department, at least.

Re the divorce speculation, that's the irony: it is Harry who will end up embittered and angry, left with the protocol and restrictions of his position and looking like a fool; Meghan will ride off into the sunset grateful for having A-list status whilst no longer bound by the restrictions and protocol she had to sit through to get it.

Blind Item #11

The alliterate former actress is taking cash bids to be her guest at an upcoming sporting event. She loves these kinds of events. No pretending to care about some random charity.

POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 11:15 AM 14 COMMENTS

WOAH! Grifting for Wimbledon alert!

Yes R129, because everyone in "Africa" has nappy hair and the made-in-China hair straightener products have not yet made their way to Africa's shores.

No matter what happens, Harry will forever been seen as the dimwit loser that actually fell for her tricks, something that quite literally everyone else seems to have identified very quickly. That's not easy on a prideful idiot.

The Royals speaking foreign languages in 60 seconds.

Meghan will lose her title and alimony if she remarries so the husband will have to be TITLED and RICH to offset the disadvantages.

The Queen with crazy eyes.

Meghan will no title if she divorces prior to getting her uk citizenship. Right now its just a courtesy, nothing is owed to americans.

Diana also lined her bottom inner eyelid in blue R114 - Princess Galitzine recommended that and made a lovely blue pencil. I still have one from about 1976.

Swipe for photos of Kate's Vogue photo spread.

It's a wonder HM can stand up wearing so many diamonds, R144.

Four hours (since posting on CDAN) and no one there or here has even questioned if "alliterate" is a new word or if ENT Lawyer is illiterate.

alliterate is a real word....

Alliterate is a word.

Any psychics or amateur astrologists in the house? What do the BRF's birth charts tell us? William, George, Diana and Camilla are all Cancerians, water. Kate, Charlotte, Harry, HM and Louis are all Earth signs. Harry of course is a Virgo which is why he's leaning towards the neurotic when compared to the stable Tarureans like Charlotte and HM or the ambitious go getting Capricorns like Kate,

Can you guess who is the only Fire sign of all he senior royals? Yup. It's our MM. She's a Leo, that poor thing.

Do you think these births are all planned and coordinated based on astrological advice? It's all nonsense but I can buy that they've taken astrological guidance. All of them born in the house of water or compatible earth? difficult to believe its a coincidence!

alliterate

/əˈlɪtəreɪt/

Learn to pronounce verb

(of a phrase or line of verse) contain words which begin with the same sound or letter. "his first and last names alliterated"

use words beginning with the same sound or letter.

I like the thought of Markle being called illiterate, though.

R129, I know we’re not supposed to discuss black women’s hair, but... there was a woman commentator on CNN who had short, natural hair. I think she looked fantastic - she had a pretty face, and she just came across as totally comfortable and quite foxy.

Please don’t come after me. I just wanted to give a compliment to natural hair. It’s cool.

Kate attends gala dinner as the Patron of Action on Addiction.

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Is is incorrect to use “alliterate” as an adjective, e.g, “Alliterate actress”. The correct word would be “alliterative”. So the writer is pretty dumb.

Alliterative has so many syllables....

Sally got Ronnie Wood sober, and they are smiling together. I approve.

Just dropping from the previous thread (haven't finished reading it yet) to respond to R40something.

[quote] —Guy the Beagle has gone to the Big Doggie Castle in the Sky folks

How dare you?!? He's on a farm in Cornwall chasing rabbits and living his best life.

And now, back to thread 71, I don't always spend time here and I could swear this thread chain was in the mid-60's the last time. Slow down!

Some 70's styling going on with Kate in these latest photos. It looked good on her, she has both the hair and the body for 70s.

Dud the thread die or something?

Guy is dead.

RIP Guy

R58 I like the way you are thinking! I will be the meat in that Andy/Epstein sandwich afterwards I'll ditch Epstein and just have Andy's meat.

It was primetime, R164. No one could post except paying members.

I wasn't keen on Kate's ruffled dress as the banquet last week, but I love her dress at R156.

Article full of dirt on the BRF.

R169 I want dirty pictures of Andrew not some stupid conspiracy site with a picture of old Phillip

I like the wedding dress that Penelope Knatchbull wore in 1979.

You don't have to be paying to post you just have to register to post

I haven’t registered yet but I just noticed today that you have to register to see link previews now.

Wonder if this is true?

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So chic. Wearing Queen Mary's pearls.

You can read his lips, R174.

What's up with this woman? The RF are only on the balcony for 3 minutes. She can't follow instructions for 3 minutes?

Trying to keep up with these threads makes me feel like Lucy at the chocolate factory!

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R179 he was being rude. Many other people were yapping on the balcony because God Save the Queen hadn’t yet started. Including Camilla and Charles. Once it started she immediately turned and was silent, as she was probably briefed beforehand. He was being the royal bitch.

Yep, Harry showed his inner little bitch. That wasn't a Meg's error.

Yes it was Meg's error. The only bitch is Karma, which is coming for her.

R183, Interesting that more and more disses re MM past behavior are now being revealed online. Clear from his most recent actions re Prince Harry's attitude towards his wife. I can't see MM going to Africa. She prefers CA especially if baby Archie's not actually in the picture. Lying about using a surrogate is one thing but if he doesn't actually exist? WTF?

R183, you are a cunt.

Never thought I would but I’m feeling empathy for MM.

Motherhood is held up in this grand romantic way - and you’re supposed to instantly relish every moment in blissful happiness... but not everyone has the same maternal personality. Newborns are a lot of work and rather boring.

My observation is women with personalities like MM have a very hard time, and find it bad for their mental health, to be all mom and no career.

It’s one thing if you don’t have a traditional career because you’re filthy rich and can do whatever you please. Take up whatever cause you want, wear what you want, travel as you wish. It’s an entirely different thing to have all the riches and be bound to baby time, plus parties with people who all think they’re better than you, plus visits to retirement homes.

I don’t think MM realized she was getting golden handcuffs. Harry probably played it like he was bold, he’d agree, and they’d venture out and change the world. She’s quickly discovering, as does anyone with a partner overly enmeshed in their family, that what he said versus what he’s actually willing to do are very different.

I think her sudden deer in the headlights is reflective of some postpartum depression - being isolated in a new country with no meaningful work and no real friends will only make it worse.

I don't feel a bit sorry for her. She's a narc. She's getting her just desserts. Hopefully the inevitable divorce announcement comes sooner rather than later. I doubt meghan will get another chance at a rich husband. She has nothing to offer, is not very attractive and is older. She's no A lister despite what she thinks in her head. No, she will fade back off to obscurity.

Ma Markle will leave when she's back to being sex kitten Meghan. Which will be never because she waited too long.

Why wasn't she puffy two days after giving birth, but she's puffy five weeks after giving birth?

[quote] no real friends

Right.

That's what happens when you dump everyone after they are no more use to you. She has ghosted old friends and family.

So, who would want to be friends with someone who has shown how she treats friends? The only ones who would be interested are people who would see her as someone THEY could use.

No sympathy here. Except for Baby Sussex.

I have no idea if she is smart or not. But she was given an expensive education. The question is, did she pay attention, do any work? Information on the Royal Family's way of life, how they consider themselves "The Firm", what expectations there are for behavior, etc. - all this information is available with very little research. Makes me wonder whether she got anything of value from that expensive education.

If the story is true, she abandoned the embassy job that her uncle got for her. She dropped her husband after he had gotten her the Suits job, making sure that she took the expensive blender when she headed off to Toronto.

She dropped the chef, after supposedly claiming the chef's dishes were really her own, after Harry came on the scene.

It looks as if her reach may have finally exceeded her grasp.

It's not over till it's over.

I'm another with no sympathy for her. Only an idiot would think they could join the royal family & be able to do what they want, when they want. It doesn't matter what Harry told her, a few dates should have made her realise the extent of his brainpower. And yes, the reason she has no friends is because she used and abused the genuine ones she may have had. The ones she has left are users the same as she is. She's had the opportunity to make a good life for herself, better than 99% of us will ever have and she's determined to fuck it up. Good luck with that.

'She prefers CA especially if baby Archie's not actually in the picture. Lying about using a surrogate is one thing but if he doesn't actually exist? WTF?'

The Welp Troll is here, guys! And he still believes in Darren. 🤪🤪🤪🤪

I don't know if she's fucked up yet. She ll fuck it up if she leaves the BRF and crashes and burns. Remains to be seen. If she leaves but manages to land on her feet with help from the Big O..I'd say not bad for the ex wife of the sixth in line. No bowing and scraping to Catherine the Great and Willie and none of this pecking order stuff with all of this royal exposure that she ll have for life. Win win.

R193, Definitely not the Welp Troll. A previous poster stated baby Archie doesn't exist. Originally I assumed he's still with the surrogate, nursing, for the 1st 45 days of his life per British law.

Are we sure that Jamie Oliver isn't Darren's father?

If the tongue is thick, it was Jamie's prick.

Can we talk about Lady Louise? She’s only 15 but is already a hefty big-boned gal, taller than her mom Sophie.

R195, do share. You CT-ers are comedy gold!

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And he should

And left to his own devices

He probably would. 🎵

Lady Lardtard Louise! Looks like James Corden.

HUGENIE, Princess of Pork, is another royal fatty.

Not a single one of them is good looking, except Replikate when she was younger. Andrew looks like a basking shark, Fuglliam is the oldest looking 36 year old on earth, ancient Camilla is like a raddled, dry haired zombie. Charles is magenta. Harry is a ginger frazzle. Meghan has a dry roasted look.

It really was the Trooping of the Fug last Saturday.

I'm hoping Lady Louise blossoms into a real looker. She's got the height and some nice hair.

When Max was thinner. Let's hope he returns to this size soon.

If she leaves the BRF I doubt Oprah will be interested anymore. The royal connection is pretty much all MM has to offer. She's trapped there or back to nobodies-ville.

Sashes

Travellers set up camp at Windsor, before being moved on.

R186, it’s nice of you to be compassionate. However, Meghan HAS a career. She’s just on maternity leave.

Meghan will not get bored at all if she can keep travelling the world and doing humanitarian type work in schools and charities. South Africa is pretty far from Third World...at least, the parts they'll be staying in. Luxury all the way. They won't be taking Archie into any of the Ebola danger zones, that's for sure.

I'm wondering why H&M weren't standing together on the balcony.

They were standing together. He was directly behind her. She didn't go to the front as she didn't want to show her body.

R207. Not R186 - but I understood that post to say this isn’t the career MM thought it would be. And imo being a royal is a way of more than it’s a career.

More of a LIFESTYLE. (Need that edit button)

I see when DL did the switchover yesterday, that the Ignore instruction was erased. Time to update that.

I meant why weren't they standing next to each other, instead of him behind her.

Mail carrying the story thsi morning of Meghan hiring a nanny who has to sign and "extensive" NDA.

It's my understanding that NDAs are basically worthless, that most of the BRF staff are required to sign them, and that they are unenforceable in practice.

Let us hope, R215!

Meghan isn't stupid. She knew exactly what to expect and she is clearly in her absolute element on the foreign tours. She wouldn't get to do that as an actress; she'd have tedious days on set in Toronto year after year.

They're styling themselves as Roving Royals so they have an excuse to travel the globe as often as possible, staying in the most luxurious accommodation on the planet, of course. That's the most enviable lifestyle of all. Permanent vacation. Angry haters who think she'd swap that for being a divorcee in LA are exceedingly naive.

Don’t forget about me, R190!

So there’s no baby? How’s that going to play out? Cot death at FrogCott??

Kate will appear on Blue Peter on a segment about outdoor play.

Charles talks about his Highgrove garden.

A Kate super fan (aka obsessed stalker) creates 150 of her outfits. She must have a lot of time on her hands.

'So there’s no baby? How’s that going to play out? Cot death at FrogCott??'

Hi, Skippy! Or is it the Welp Troll? You are disgusting, imagining the death of an infant. Lithium would quell your raging delusions.

R223, if their is no baby there’s no fantasy of a baby dying. Do try and keep up.

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R224, your naive conspiracy theories are comedy gold. Do continue.

Beatrice was at visiting a charity in Guildford.

'If their is no baby there’s no fantasy of a baby dying. Do try and keep up.'

Oh, dear.

Why do tinhatting and illiteracy so often go hand in hand?

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R221 - You can see how badly mismatched Charles and Diana were from her well-known dislike of Highgrove. If she couldn't join Charles in his passion for the place and its potential, if she couldn't see its beauty or at least understand his passion for his vision, how on earth could she have become the wife of his heart as well as his position? I have no idea how Camilla feels about gardens or Highgrove, but I've a pretty good idea that she knew how to join Charles in his passion for it.

Highgrove wasn't what it is today when Charles bought it; his vision transformed it. If only Diana had realised how much bonding could have taken place between them if she'd put her Sloane Ranger Get Me Back To The Shops aside and joined him in that vision., things might have gone differently.

Diana in that marriage was the wind in the fable of the sun and the wind having a contest about who could make the human below them take off his overcoat. The wind blew and blew and all the man did was hug the coat closer around him. The sun sent down warmer, gentler rays and the man suddenly took off his coat.

For all her lack of beauty, Camilla knew how to be the sun, and for all her youth and beauty, all Diana did was rage windily against Charles for not giving her the endless attention she craved.

Camilla was a hot skinny thing in the 70s.

R230 - ok we get you don't like Diana. The woman had problems but you leave out a couple of and important fact:

One of the reasons Diana didn't like Highgrove is because Camilla was often at the place. She would act as party hostess for Charles and Charles and his mistress were discovered in the garden getting it on. I would say that would be taint a place pretty quickly for any wife.

This thread is dull. Where's the Welp Troll to liven things up?

Well, well, well. Fergie was at Andrew's entrepreneur event at St James' Palace and Beatrice was there with Edo.

A segment on Kate's Blue Peter programme.

A little tidbit: Camilla keeps beehives at her country house Ray Mill and sells the honey.

Edo will propose soon.

Harry and Meghan's wedding outfits are moving up north to Edinburgh to be exhibited at Holyrood House.

Groovy Princess Anne and her big hair.

Peter Townsend describes Princess Margaret.

Kate's white dress last night was a recycling one from 2016.

I miss seeing the previews on the thread. I know, I know, register m ass and the I can see them.

The Queen Mum in the thirties when she became Queen Consort.

My ass.

Imagine the indignity of having to wear the same expensive outfit more than once?

Too right, R245! If there's OPM (other people's money) to be spent on my wardrobe then... GIMME!!

There is definitely a slow creep toward "full time royal" status for the York daughters. I wonder when it will be announced, maybe in conjunction with a retirement of the elder Gloucester and Kents. I do think the RF are wary of public opinion in that regard as many were not too chuffed at Harry going full time and now costing a fortune with his new wife and a kid.

I can see the York girls taking on a section of workload, and therefore becoming working royals, as William's idea. In fact, there WAS a blind about it, a few weeks/months before we saw them become more high profile with duties and engagements.

Is there a chance of Harry being downgraded from working royal?

R249, absolutely not. He will be the king's son. Do not underestimate how much Charles values him.

[R249], I doubt it now that the decision has been taken. Although they could give him less high profile engagements. I can't see him choosing to turn his back on it either.

I think it depends on how the big pair of tarts behave themselves on the African trip(s).

I do find this Harry Markle wordpress blog interesting, and well written.

This is the latest post " The Power of Silence".

R249 - Not any time soon. I agree with poster who mentioned the "creep" toward incorporating the York girls into the working royal team. I put this down to two possible issues. First, Meghan may have received a rapturous reception on Celebitchy, but she didn't from core senior royals in the BRF. She played her first hand of royal cards recklessly and badly. So I think the creep of the York girls is something of an insurance policy, as it becomes ever clearer that Meghan really isn't suited to the home turf, and that the Sussex marriage, realistically, only has a 50-50 chance of long-term survival. Second, I think there's a wish to bring more of the blood family forward and circle the wagons against the invader. A third possibility, which I think is only marginally credible, is that Prince Andrew, who hates Meghan Markle's guts, carried out some determined private investigation of his own and has said that unless his daughters are given their "rightful place" in the BRF, especially given clear Meghan has made it that she's in this for herself and brand only, he'll leak what he found (just as, in my private opinion, he leaked the Tiaragate story to pay Meghan back for the maternity coat stunt).

But in the near future? Only if he downgrades himself out of the line of succession (and UK taxpayer funding) by leaving for America and taking his wife and kid(s) with him.

You never hear about Sudden Infant Death Syndrome anymore.

R254, I like your thinking on Andrew regarding his daughters and MM. I can totally see that.

R234, I think Bea looks really cute in those IG pictures. Edo looks like the villain in an 80s teen comedy.

This photo, from link at R253, actually made me shiver (yes, Mary!) Those shifty eyes.

I love Kate's outfit at R241, and her big 70s hair.

Whoever came up with the idea of recycling Royal outfits is a genius. Everyone knows that most of Kate's clothes are worth a fortune, and even the high street pieces have been taken apart and put back together by expert tailors, but occasionally wearing the same pieces at least gives a nod to the little folks, who have to wear their own H&M creations multiple times.

I've never gotten the feeling that Charles was overly close to either of his sons, especially now that they are adults. Wasn't he complaining that he never sees William's kids?

The Lifeguards Drum Horse Adamas has died.

I think Charles would avoid doing purely for an optics aspect, I don't think he was ever as close as PR made it seem.

Take it with a pinch of salt (or a gallon) but I remember reading that the fallout from the Jimmy Saville paedophile cases was brutal on Charles' image, given their close, somewhat murky friendship with documented proof of Charles having stayed in Jimmy's lair in Scotland. It could have been as fatal for him as the negative PR from Diana's death. But it was somewhat swiftly contained in the press.

But a common side effect of Charles being attacked in the press? He very often throws his sons under the bus. It happened in the early 2000s post Diana when he outed Harry's "drug" (marijuana) habit and then also leaked how he swooped in as a dutiful dad to take him to rehab. And then again in 2012 post Saville, wherein Harry, William and Kate were all painted as lazy as a contrast to hardworking Charles. MM's PR has nothing on Charles's spin doctors! They've earned every dime, I reckon.

Some of you can't make up your minds whether Meghan's stupid or so powerful, she shakes the BRF into bringing in the York girls as full-time representatives to the Crown!

The issue regarding the York girls has been brewing for years before Meghan even divorced her first husband and Andrew has been cranky about commoners (ahem, looking at you Catherine) outranking his daughters of the blood royal for many moons.

If you guys remember (or choose to remember), there were massive stories when Kate married her Alpha about when she would have to curtsey to Beatrice and Eugenie...it was non-stop. That was Andrew. Now, he's ramping things up because Meghan's entered the picture at the worst possible time.

The older royals are retiring and it's becoming clear that Charles' wish to severely limit the BRF (akin to the Norwegian Royal Family) isn't going to work. Andrew's been actively campaigning against the stupidity of the plan with great results.

For the first time, Andrew has been right about something (bringing Fergie back will be a mistake but she's past childbearing age, so thank goodness for small mercies) and having all HRHs of this generation working for The Firm is the only way to keep earning their keep. Andrew is on ground way too shaky to leak stories about anyone, so he'd be wise to not try.

Circling the wagons against non-blood family?! Clearly, many of you had strange upbringings. The BRF is notoriously kind towards 'outsiders' that overstep (Fergie, Princess Michael and Lord Snowden Sr. immediately come to mind) and are very slow to excise unruly in-laws, no matter their behavior. It's wishful thinking that H&M will be downgraded (talk less for the fruits of Fergie's womb!) but your scenarios are comedic gold, so let's have more.

The Hanoverians (which the Windsors really are, despite all the name changes) have a long history of cold relationships between monarch and heir. This is true even now: Charles was never Elizabeth's favorite, and Charles has little use for William. But he has little use for Harry, either.

Charles always wanted a daughter, to the point of essentially telling Diana after Harry's birth that he was disappointed in a red-haired second son. That's the point when the marriage was over in Diana's eyes, or at least that's what she said. Ironically, Charles denied himself the opportunity of having a third child with Di that might have been the longed-for girl, by being a dick to his wife and continuing to fuck Camilla. Diana had blame to bear in the death of that relationship, but Charles also contributed quite a bit to its demise.

The BRF are notoriously kind to outsiders?????? Oh my sides!!

Here we are, talking MM's demands for tiaras, Diana being read the riot act for not tolerating mistresses being paraded in KP with more "grace", Fergie's utter banishment over minor grifts and escapades (yes, that escapade was nothing major, except being caught on camera but...more on that) all the while Anne was allowed affairs under the radar, Charles was sleeping with male valets and the kids' nannies, BESIDES his regular side pieces, Andrew's had active links with JEFFREY FUCKING EPSTEIN and Bea stealing another woman's baby daddy...all of this has been handled gently and effectively by Palace officials while the 'married ins' are hung out to dry.

Oh and while Harry and William are reliving feuds of Kane and Abel proportions (MARY!!!!), here we are discussing the non existent beef between Evil Megs and Ambitious Kate, Why? Simply because the Palace prefers it framed thus.

R265 - First, that story about Charles's remark to Diana as Harry was being born is strictly from Diana and likely rewrite from Diana as the Wales marriage collapsed and their PR war heated up and her spite increased. She was known for lying even as a child. Charles didn't deny himself the chance of that daughter by "being a dick" and being unfaithful. The marriage was in trouble by the time the honeymoon was over - Diana was already making his life hell, try reading about the honeymoon and their first stay at Balmoral that August when the BRF were so concerned at her complete volte face that she was sent back to London for counseling. They were completely mismatched, and Diana was evert bit as complicit in the breakdown of the marriage as Charles was. Having a third child would have done nothing but involve even more vulnerable people in the misery that was the Wales marriage.

As for the relationship between monarch and heir: oh, that suspicions and coldness extends well beyond the Hanoverians. There probably isn't a royal family anywhere in history that hasn't seen that, for obvious reasons. Try reading up on the Romanovs from the time of Peter the Great, and then, of course, there's always ancient Rome . . . both of which families make the Windsors look like the Darling family in Peter Pan.

R266 - Do tell us which and how many mistresses were "paraded" by Charles in Kensington Palace? I doubt you can come up with one, because by the time Charles went back to Camilla, he saw her only at HIghgrove, her own place not far off, and at "safe houses" leant by friends. Oh, and of course, Diana's behaviour had absolutely nothing to do with why the BRF finally got tired of her antics, did it?

R266 - I think you're bound to come up with proof of Charles sleeping with male valets; the York girls are not working royals and aren't on the Sovereign Grant and asserting that chubby, pop-eyed buck-toothed, badly dressed Bea "stole" Edo from his beautiful baby Mama is ludicrous: if anything, the social climbing narc Edo found it easy to seduce the unattractive, over-30 Single Elder Sister princess; Andrew lost his position of Business Ambassador for Britain over the Epstein scandal; and since you're such an advocate of Saint Diana - you might want to remember that Dodi Fayed had just gotten engaged to a young model, including a huge engagement ring, who was parked on a different yacht not too far from the Jonikal, after Dodi's Papa suggested he might have a shot at the world's most famous woman. I believe the gobsmacked fiancee sued for breach of promise. I doubt it bothered Diana too much, any more than her stalking of the wife of the married man she was obsessed with did.

Please.

The bumping up of Euge and Bea says nothing about how "powerful" MM is. It's a function of the power struggle between the original Heir and Spare- Charles and Andrew. MM and Harry's prominence was an experiment by Charles, which backfired with the British media. He's simply walking that strategy back. Charles is very very astute about PR and reading the weather vane

R266- You are mistaking me for the poster writing about Diana's woes and Charles wanting daughters. I only wrote the post about married ins being treated differently. I really don't think Diana was a blameless saint. Im just bolstering my argument for how the BRF has treated the daughters in law with how it all went down.

Someone posited that we are slipping in our snark. Perhaps we are. Consider this gem from Lipstick Alley regarding MM's shoot for British Vogue: "She's about to be laid out on top of Wallis Simpson's grave with a $500,000 Givenchy bespoke blanket draped over her for this Vogue photoshoot chile, photoshopped to the royal gawds!"

Hahahaha okay I seriously lol'd R272. Jesus Christ, out-snarked by LSA? The end truly is nigh it seems

Don't know if it's a bright move to show off the taxpayer funded renovation of Frogmore Cottage in a fashion magazine. She really likes to rub the noses of the British public, doesn't she? How anyone in the late thirties can be so toned deaf or not see how this photo shoot would be taken is beyond me. I suspect this will not go well.

^ tone deaf

Kate's speech last night.

Sapphires galore on the Queen!

The Queen of Diamonds.

R271 - Apologies for blending you and R265. But in answer to your particular point: those married-ins were treated with kid gloves and huge amounts of bend over backwards tolerance until they began biting the very rich hands that were feeding them. Fergie was reckless, Diana had serious emotional issues and didn't exactly treat Charles well, and Meghan made it clear the moment the ring was on her finger that she was about Brand Meghan, not the BRF (and not the British taxpayer, either). If the BRF treated the blood family's peccadilloes with more tolerance - well, they wouldn't be the first troubled family in history to favour their own, would they? And getting divorced is not so difficult; kicking someone off the line of success is rather more major. And the BRF do have the survival of the institution to consider, and when the married-ins don't seem to share their concern, the result is inevitable.

Diana and Charles were a terrible match. Fergie couldn't take the restrictions and Andrew's long absences as a naval officer and was indiscreet; and Meghan - well, we know how that's playing out.

It does bear repeating that other married-ins, such as the Duchesses of Gloucester and Kent, have done extremely well and been honoured and respected by the rest of the family. Princess Michael - well, they don't particularly like her, either, but would you blame them for that?

I think it's a more nuanced landscape than you're asserting, that's all.

Kate planted her own flower called "Sweet William".

Sorry forgot the link.

The Queen has a see through umbrella with a lining that matches the color of the outfit she's wearing. People can see her and she's always color coordinated. Very smart.

Cheeky Elizabeth photo bombing little sister Margaret.

A grin from a future Queen.

Mary's cluttered desk

Charles: a new day, another drink.

R276 What a beautiful room, and Kate clearly chose the cream-colored dress for it.

Is anyone getting a "relaoding server" message from DL?

Yes

No one can get a message up quickly enough.

Prince of Whales - signed, D. Trump. UK press having a field day.

WH blaming "auto-correct function".

Check Daily Mail for story.

There goes that trade deal.

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Trump's tweet mistakes is a known thing, it's him fucking with people. It works 100% and his base generally loves it.

God, what a ghastly tactic to employ on the world stage, R296. His fanbase needs to be spanked for their thuggery- and not in a good way

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Aww. Kate's planting not only Sweet William flowers (which is cute, I ll shamefacedly admit) but also this story about their secret date in Cumbria. I say go for it- why should only the Sussexes plant treacly fake romantic stories in People and Cosmo?

R299, Yes, it was quite secret.

Evidently it was planted, R300. That was my point.

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This is the truly hilarious line in the Rihanna/Meghan article:

"They actually have a lot in common in terms of style and a shared need for total privacy in their lives."

Two famewhores with a need for total privacy (when it suits them).

Full disclosure: this does come from RADAR.

Charles relaxing in his Highgrove garden. Chickens are welcome!

I am a Kate fan, but I can’t stand those painted in jeans. They manage to make her look masculine and cheap at the same time. I have a hard time believing TQ is okay with them.

An aerial view of Highgrove and its gardens.

Charles is an exquisite dresser, very dapper in R305's link

Did Fergie and Andy do the photo call on the hospital steps when their daughters were born?

Is Sparkle the only one who needed to have a castle backdrop in her baby's pictures complete with long walk (strut) through the opulence?

R279, you put it perfectly!

R302, Sophie is a shining star within the family; she's done a great job and she's a good example of how to go from glam career woman to royal wife.

[r306] I hate them too - just about the only thing I dislike in her wardrobe choices. They’re not on trend, nor are they “classic”. An odd choice.

309 - Yes, the Yorks did the Lindo wing wave here's the baby get in car, leave. Fergie looked elephantine the first time. The second time she tried much harder with makeup and a garish suit and put on less weight.

Yup, r309. Meghan has a ridiculously old skool 90s SJP style to everything- opulent, girly and super princessy. Makes the maverick tag even more incongruous. It'd be so cool if Harry had married someone like Rihanna- a true-blue, no fucks given, chiller. It would be nuts and bizarre but he would get my vote for a revolutionary choice! Weren't there rumours that they hooked up?

R309 - I remember Fergie and Andrew on the steps of the hospital. Fergie was huge of course.

Charles takes after the Duke of Windsor in his clothing style and love of gardening.

"MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry have been accused of repeatedly making grammatical mistakes on their Instagram page, particularly with the use of apostrophes, claims Royal expert Melanie Bromley."

DLers called it first.....

R309, considering the age of the DoS and this was her first baby, I'm sure they realized there was a chance she would need a C-Section and/or the labor could have complications.

The backdrop of Windsor may not have been for the sake of grandiosity but because Frogmore Cottage is still being renovated (they'll go over budget...count on it, as it has happened with all recent renovations); we can't also expect the photos to take place in private quarters belonging to HM and the DoE.

Now, I'm not saying Meghan didn't grab the opportunity to debut her son in such a cloak and dagger manner but she likely took advantage of the circumstances surrounding her medical needs.

The Randy Andy Stan may be interested in hanging this portrait of his man in uniform on his wall.

LOL it's confirmed. Both couples, their PR teams AND cunty tabloid journos read the DL!!!

Photos of Fergie and Andrew leaving the hospital with Eugenie. She had to have a cesarean for her second daughter. She looked better here than when she left the hospital with Beatrice. I'll see if I can find a photo of that event. If I remember correctly, the York girls were born at Portland Hospital.

The top photo is of Beatrice's hospital departure. Fergie was HUGE.

R295, R304, yeah, the bit about Rihanna and Meghan having a lot in common in terms of style is hilarious (you wish, Meg) but this is also gold, as it frames it as though they knew each other before (ie, when Megan was D-list):

'They’ve bumped into each other a few times before Meghan was super famous and have a few mutual acquaintances on the Hollywood social scene who’ve put them in touch again recently.’

R306, Kate doesn't have any style. She found a look she likes and feels comfy in (skinny jeans) and has stuck with it. She's been getting better at the junior Queen looks (all those suits and updos and hats), and that's all I expect of her. Let others be style icons.

Kate is nowhere close to being as good looking as Diana. On her own her features are quite hard looking, but when she pulls herself together in her.as you said...JR Queen mode she looks quite stunning. Somehow as feminine and appealing as Diana and MORE pulled together if that's possible. It's astonishing really. What sort of trickery is it?

I never have thought or written that Diana was a saint--far from it. Her tantrums and spotlight stealing helped doom the Wales marriage. But Charles did his share of tantrum throwing OVER her spotlight stealing, and he probably started fucking Camilla again before Di ever thought of cheating. Lest we forget, he was a very powerful and famous 31-year-old man courting and marrying a teenager, so of course the power dynamics were all fucked up at the beginning, and just became moreso as Diana really caught fire on the world stage.

Andrew was handsome as a youth but he's all gone to pot.

R325- agreed

The Queen Mum as a young woman. Her big blue eyes were her best facial feature.

R316 - So that's why Hillary lost - Sarah Latham, who was on her PR team for the campaign, wrote up the talking points for that now infamous speech and intended to write "adorables" and instead wrote "deplorables"!!!!

Anne, the Yorks, the Wessex pair and the Cambridges all been photographed leaving the hospital. The Sussex pair are "special".

^ all have been

R327 - Diana wasn't 13, she was 19 when she started dating Charles and 20 when they got married. And by every and all accounts, she was desperate to marry him, was obsessed with marrying him, ignored every red flag on display (and there were more than a few), and then, when the fairy-tale she'd constructed in her mind failed to materialise, blamed everyone else for it. It wasn't her chronological age that was the problem: it was her emotional age, and from what we saw of her relationships with men (affairs within the marriage and then after it) she didn't mature much. She had massive problems. The BRF and Charles were absolutely at fault for not allowing him to marry the woman he really loved, and Charles, hounded by the press and lectured by his father about ruining the reputation of a nice girl from a good family, just caved in. I don't absolve him of blame for that, but in my view it was a perfect storm, and it blew in from both sides.

Princess Anne opened a riding facility for the diabled in Warwickshire. I highly doubt the look of love she's giving the horse has ever crossed her face when looking at her two husbands.

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Anne seems to be letting her hair gradually go gray. So much better than the harsh dark color she normally dyes it.

Cute photos of Charles and Anne in 1952. The last two are of the Queen and Philip.

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Agreed, R306, I hate Kate's skin tight jeggings. In the photo they just make her look like she's got flat white girl ass. I wonder if the little Cosmo-reported brief hotel stay will result in a fourth Cambridge bub? I'm sorry for being such a terrible frau but another baby (hopefully a girl) would be so lovely!

I also agree with the person who wishes Harry had married Rihanna (or someone like her), although I suspect Rihanna is worldly enough (and rich and famous enough in her own right) to vet men - even men with titles like Harry - properly before deciding to breed with/marry them.

R333-That's about the most genuinely happy and relaxed I've ever seen Anne. It's like HMQ with her corgis and labs and Charles with his chickens and gardens. Their pleasures, in a way, are quite simple. Just expensive.

I love how country the BRF are, it's kinda qt. Meghan, for all her past research, really didn't understand the family she was entering

R338 - I don't think Harry and Meghan would appreciate a fourth Cambridge baby - Harry would become seventh, his kid eighth in the line of succession, and the Yorks would be even more miffed: Andrew would move down to ninth, and Bea and Yuge down to tenth and eleventh, making moving the girls forward even more difficult.

What the Yorks are hoping for is Harry throwing in the towel and departing for points westward with Meghan and Archie in tow, resigning his place in the line of succession as he waves Cheerio!, and Andrew moving back up into sixth, and his daughters moving up to seventh and eighth.

Another Cambridge baby would just upset everyone's apple cart.

If you have a staff of 10 regulars, plus extra for special projects gardening can be fun. And someone to tend to the polishing of all the outdoor sculptures.

R341 - "I don't think Harry and Meghan would appreciate a fourth Cambridge baby".

"Another Cambridge baby would just upset everyone's apple cart".

R323 - Nailed it. Kate knows she's not there to be edgy or daring. She's doing the Future Princess of Wales number (which, let us face facts, could happen at any moment) and anticipating the Future Queen Consort number (which comes up on her dance card the moment she becomes Princess of Wales). She can leave the fashion icon bullshit to the woman who will never be anything other than the Former Spare's wife (because Harry really isn't the Spare any longer, Prince George is, and George has two siblings who come ahead of Harry) and who will, eventually, have to curtsy to Kate in public.

R344 - too bad Meghan's fashion choices don't measure up to Icon status.

George is NOT the Spare. Charlotte is. George is the future heir to the throne.

R346 - Not. Prince William is the future heir to the throne as long as his father, Charles, is the Heir Apparent (which is what the Prince of Wales technically is), and whilst Charles remains that, William is the future heir and his children are, realistically, all spares. Once Charles becomes King, and William becomes Prince of Wales and Heir Apparent, then George is the future heir, and his two siblings are the spares.

Why do people care about British royalty so much? Are the Brits planning to completely abandon democracy after Brexit?

R348 - Answer to first question: it's fun. Answer to second question: the BREXIT referendum was a free and fair vote in which turnout was over 70%. How does that represent an abandonment of democracy? Greenland left the EU: has it descended into facism?

^*fascism

R349. I never said Brexit represents "an abandonment of democracy". I asked whether the British plan to abandon democracy AFTER Brexit since they are still obsessed with the royal family.

Maybe, let's face it our politicians are a complete shower. I know the Royals tried before. I don't know if they could be any worse than this current bunch.

R343 - We all take your point, I'm sure, and I doubt either of those reasons would stop Kate from getting herself up the duff again if she pleases (she seems to love motherhood) and there probably would be some malicious pleasure in KP in seeing the L.A. grifter's status in the hierarchy knocked down one more notch. But Kate's 38, her youngest is still only 14 months old, HM is 93, and Kate's father-in-law will probably have a short reign . . . what with one thing and another, it would seem, er . . . I don't know . . . not in the best interests of anyone concerned.

R351 - I'm still confused about your connecting the dots of BREXIT, the BRF, and the UK abandoning democracy. And the Brits aren't obsessed with the royal family. A small segment of Brits are, the tabloids find them great fodder, and of course there's a subset here on DL. But it would be a great mistake to judge the entire British population by a group of gossiping Marys on this site.

And I'm still not sure how being obsessed with the royal family obstructs democracy here. Britain has had a consitutional monarchy for a very long time and remains one of the world's pre-eminent democracies in the broad sense of the word.

Technically, like America, Great Britain is a republic.

I wonder if the Rihanna stuff has to do with all the recent articles talking about how she’s built Fenty world domination and made a fortune in a very non-traditional business way (her social media).

What Rihanna is succeeding at is, IMO, exactly what MM wants to do and how she imagines the future if she and Harry exit to the US and move to Hollywood celebrity instead of constrained royal celebrity.

R347 You obviously don’t know what’s meant by the term “spare” in this context.

It’s the “heir & the spare”. The spare is the next one down to the heir. Charlotte is George’s “spare”. Harry is William’s “spare”. It dates back to parents necessarily having to have more than one child to ensure succession because of the high infant mortality rate.

George is not the spare - he’s the heir.

Not sure why you felt the need to lecture the thread about who’s next in line. Pretty sure we all know that, thanks.

[quote] Technically, like America, Great Britain is a republic.

No, it’s not.

We are essentially in agreement, R332. Both Diana and Charles contributed to the shitshow that was their marriage. But Diana was a sheltered, ill-educated 19-year-old from a broken family background when she started dating Charles, which made her emotional age closer to 15. Hence, the idolization of Charles the Prince rather than the realistic assessment of Charles the man, which led to her enraged disillusionment in the early days of their marriage. But I do think that early on, she was more sinned against than sinning. The BRF wanted a combination broodmare and clotheshorse as the Princess of Wales, and what they ended up with an emotionally unstable, fantastically charismatic young woman instead, they made a lot of bad decisions.

*WHEN they ended up with an emotionally unstable, fantastically charismatic young woman instead, they made a lot of bad decisions.

I certainly hope this new DL overhaul includes an edit button.

R279 The Kents? as an example of a good marriage?

With Princess Michael carrying on in public in Venice with a much-younger Russian thug ( who was later murdered, gang-style) and the Prince allowing photos to be taken of himself and his younger mistress...oy.

They didn’t want a “clothes horse” for fucks sake. And this “brood mare” stuff is seriously annoying. You could say that about every woman who has ever gotten married.

“Fantastically charismatic”? Diana was as dull as ditchwater & as thick as pig shit. She couldn’t even deliver a speech with any personality or flair. She could wear expensive clothes and smile. That’s it. The media did the rest.

The British Royal Family specifically had Diana visit the Royal gynecologist before marrying Charles, to ensure that she was capable of bearing an heir. The Palace Press Office used to send out descriptions of her outfits at events until she finally asked them to stop. Yes, I think broodmare and clotheshorse describe her envisioned role very well.

Diana may have been thick, but she was anything but dull. Hence, the thousands of magazine covers that featured her, the dozens of books and documentaries about her, and the ongoing public interest in her over 20 years after her death.

But I suspect at this point that you are just being argumentative, so I will respectfully retire from this discussion.

[quote] The British Royal Family specifically had Diana visit the Royal gynecologist before marrying Charles

Your evidence for this?

[quote] Hence the thousands of magazine covers....

Yes, dear. They are the “media” I was referring to.

Can you not retire from DL completely? This is DL - manifestly not a place for podgy, middle-aged fraus with sagging tits to wet their knickers over hideous jewels & dead Sloane Rangers. Isn’t Mumsnet a better fit for you, you sychophantic old crow?

R361 I picture you as a Hyacinth Bucket lookalike, with a yappy dog & a shelf full of royal memorabilia. Bet you sobbed your moronic heart out over Diana’s death, didn’t you?

Either share some fucking gossip or piss off.

Yes, R362/R263, that is exactly what I look like. I am deeply, deeply wounded by your laser-like assessment of all my failings.

Now I'm going to block your rude, deluded ass and go polish my Staffordshire dogs.

Either get some fucking manners or fuck off.

Dull Diana.

My apologies to R263--I mixed up the numbers while blocking the idiot at R363. Your post was fine!

Diana was clearly not "dull" if the mere mention of her some 20 years hence her death fires you up in such a rage. Whatever her faults, she had "IT" in spades.

Donald Trump Calls Prince Charles ‘Prince Of Whales’

The tweet was corrected, but his fishy spelling became bait for lots of jokes.

R356 - You're right, my bad - I was thinking "direct democracy" as the opposite number. We practice "indirect democracy" - the head of the party who gets a majority becomes PM rather than us voting directly for the head of government.

Everyone "knew" Diana would be checked out for fertility before the wedding. It was still done back then, even more necessarily in this case, as it was abundantly clear that Charles was marrying for duty, not love. She was probably checked for things like chlamydia or endometriosis or the like that might impact a young woman's ability to become pregnant.

Holy crap R362, calm down? R357's post was hardly a "Diana was a pure angel of goodness and the satanic royal family should all be executed for being mean to her" rant. And the 'brood mare' claim is 100% correct. I mean, bloody hell, are you aware of any royal history (any royal family, not just the Windsors) at all? The literal sole function of a royal wife is to produce the king's legitimate heirs. I've heard the gynecologist story before and have no difficulty believing it - the marriage of Charles and Di in many ways seemed to be the last of the old school weddings. It was publicly made known that she was a virgin, with the implication being obvious - that not being a virgin would have been a big enough problem to make her a 'not suitable' wife for Charles.

I'm not Di fan, I think she was a deeply troubled woman who probably damaged her children in many ways, some of which they will never recover from. But I, like many, do give her a pass for the start of that particular fairy tale gone bad, simply given her age and obvious immaturity (even for 19). The RF were really stupid not to have seen the storm on the horizon, and I believe it was probably Diana - in life and in death - who did the most to drag them into the modern world. In the old days she could simply have been forced to behave, to put up with whatever it was they wanted her to put up with. But the press and her popularity gave her power the RF couldn't control.

This isn't a defense. At a certain point, it was her responsibility to sort herself out (because past a certain point it's everyone's responsibility to sort themselves out, simply because who else is there to do it?) and she didn't. She doubled and tripled down on a lot of mistakes, misplayed her hand over and over (shades of MM here) and died on the verge of what many now believe would have been an embarrassing downfall with a sleazy playboy. But if you ask me who was more responsible for a terrible match, a teenager with obvious romance novel fantasies playing out in her head or an experienced and worldly 31 year old with countless advisors, I'm gonna go with the latter every time.

And thick or not, she had a way with people, especially the downtrodden, that both endeared her to the public and ended up emphasizing the fact that her husband and his family lacked it.

Now can someone tell me if it's true that our blocked people have been unblocked?

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Prince Dim had a hot fling with Rihanna...in his dreams. Same with Meg Markle's deep friendship with her, where they bonded over their shared desire for "complete privacy" and their"style."

Nyuck nyuck nyuck

That HarryMarkle site has an interesting article on why Harry was never really the spare

Very good post, r370. Spot on about everything.

R359 - The Duke and Duchess of Kent, not Prince and Princess Michael of Kent and I was referring to how the former Katherine Worsely fitted herself into the family and took up her work. She suffered in later years from depression and converted quietly to Catholicism, as did her son. She was never a scandal maker and worked hard.

Harry WAS William's spare when they were second and third in line after their father. Harry is no longer the "the next one down" and he's now sixth in line. If William is second in line, how can a "spare" be the sixth in line? If something happened to William it wouldn't be Harry the Spare who would step up; it would be George. The "next one down" from William is no longer Harry, it is George, and William isn't even the heir yet, and neither is George. Charles is the Heir, but Harry is no longer the spare. He was, but he isn't any longer because there is nothing for him to, er, aSPARE to.

Yes, we get the brotherly Heir and Spare terminology. But in real terms, it stops making sense as soon as the Spare moves down a few notches and is no longer anywhere close to inheriting what he was supposed to be the spare inheritor for.

But see he technically really wasn't. He was the potential spare - if Charles had died while the queen was still on the throne. Charles' is heir apparent, the spare is technically the one who comes after the heir apparent. First Ann was Charles' spare for a decade or so, then when Andrew was born, Andrew was Charles' spare for about 22 years until William was born. Harry was never really raised in the position of "if something bad happens tomorrow, YOU become the heir apparent", because he was never actually in that position, as Ann, Andrew and William all have been or are. It was a potential reality, but it was never actually reality.

And once William had George, Harry was really for all intents and purposes knocked off the direct track. Sure potentially something could happen to all 4 people in front of him, but it would be unlikely in this day and age.

Everyone’s a spare if you’re not the heir.

After William becomes King, if something were to happen to him before George comes of age, then Harry just might end up as Regent because he's the next adult in line of succession. Though it's not required that he'd be Regent, it's the most logical choice, so he still is sort of a "spare" until George grows up.

If something happened to William before Charles became king, would Harry become the next heir, or would that remain George?

I *highly* doubt Harry would end up as regent, especially with what's going on right now with a)apparent strife between the brothers (I definitely think this is more between Will and Harry than it is Kate and Meghan, although it doesn't appear that the sisters in law are close in any way) and b)strong public reactions (including sharply falling popularity - which, hey, the public is fickle, it's entirely possible it could shoot right back up again) to Harry since marrying Meghan.

I believe courtiers would see it as far too risky to put Harry, who will never again be the cheeky and beloved 20-something he used to be, on the throne even in a regent capacity. Yes, what if it's wildly unpopular - that would be bad. But what if it was wildly popular? What if King Harry was so loved by the people that they demanded his son be the one to succeed him? What I'm saying is popular OR unpopular with the public, Regent Harry has every potential to be messy af. I cannot see any scenario in which anyone not in the direct line is put on the throne, or even close to it, excepting the vastly unlikely scenario of the deaths of HM, Charles, William and all of William's children.

Well. R380, if something happens to William while he’s king—and the scenario would be that Charles and QEII have already passed—someone will have to be regent if he passes at a young age. I don’t know who that would be, but George will be nowhere near ready until at least 20 years from now to fulfill the duties. Think of the Queen and what she does on a daily basis—hell, through her whole career—and no way would even a 20-year-old be able to do it.

Harry would be a more logical regent than anyone else. Kate has firmly painted herself as focussed on home and hearth.

The story that the British press wants to stay alive...

Rose Hanbury’s ‘world rocking’ after ‘momentous’ fall out with Kate Middleton and Prince William The Sun June 13, 2019

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9291343/rose-hanbury-fall-out-kate-middleton-prince-william/

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It will never happen, R382.

Clearly all this is speculative. Don't be pedantic R384.

Harry is the very last person who would be made regent, for the reasons described above. It may be what MeMe and Dim fantasize about but it is never going to be a possibility.

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If anything were to happen to William, I think Jeremy Corbyn would make himself Lord Protectorate a la Oliver Cromwell, and seize the regency.

Vive la République !

R258 - Yikes! Smegs HATES her some Kate! She's got a bunny-boiling look in her eye.

Princess Beatrice attended a Pitch@Palace event hosted by her dad, Prince Andrew, and she didn't attend the special occasion alone! The royal was joined by her new beau, Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, who stood beside her as she chatted to guests of the event at St James' Palace.

The couple were also joined by Princess Beatrice's mother, Sarah Ferguson, as she helped to host the evening with her ex-husband. The Duke founded Pitch@Palace to help and accelerate the work of entrepreneurs, and it has helped to create almost 6000 jobs since it was founded in 2014.

Harry lost popularity, which of course could change, but belief in his intelligence and judgement has been compromised.

R353 - No, you're incorrect about ages. Despite that Kate has 3 children, she is younger than Meg. Meg is middle aged (assuming she has the life expectancy of an American AA woman).

Online some have shown evidence that MM lied about her age.

R356 is correct. GB is a Constitutional Monarchy.

Do you have any links, R393?

R382 Harry would never be the regent as it would complicate the rightful heir taking the throne. More likely Katherine and a council of advisors would be the regents.

Look up the childhood of Louis XIV (the Sun King) and the role of regency before he took the throne.

I often wonder does the PR team of MM come on here and try to plant dumb fucking stories like Harry could be Regent and William is having an affair. Harry will never be Regent and William is not having an affair so it's time to lose those dreams Megsie.

R397 = bracing hot cup of sense

R318 Thank you! I am here for this painting of the magnificent Andy and I shall get a copy and hang it over my bed.

R326 Are you insane! Andy still looks wonderful and virile, the only thing that as gone to pot is the pot you are smoking that has clouded your judgement on how gorgeous Andy is.

R395, As I recall reading numerous comments on YouTube videos as well as by various hosts the strongest evidence is that MM closest childhood and college friends were at least 3 years older than her official stated age. Common for actresses to lie about their age too.

Honestly just knowing when she graduated college should provide a lot of insight. Not foolproof, but definitely provides margins.

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R396 - I don't know the actual rules, but what you outlined is what I assumed would be the most likely (i.e. most frictionless) arrangement - Kate and a council of advisors.

So who read that Sun article posted by R383? Heavy on the implications, typical tabloid-speak. They go to some minor lengths to cover their asses by saying Rose had dinner with William a few times while her husband was away on business but Kate knew about it and it was all on the up and up (which begs the question as to why Rose is being shunned by Kate, which is the whole point of the article). Heavy implications of trouble in the Cholmonde-fuckit marriage, as well. In fact given that William has called in the lawyers over this, it's a somewhat brazen story, although again they're careful only to imply.

I dunno, I didn't think it was true, and this doesn't make me think it is but they're not dropping it...

If those two cheated, how fucking stupid were they to let it be discovered? That's sloppy af, especially if her marriage is possibly going to end of it. She had it made with that rich as hell old dude who was always away. If she got caught then damn, what a dummy. William too.

Also, if it *did* happen then an Oscar to Kate for her absolutely believable "everything is fab and we're super happy and in love" act over the past year, which looked and felt completely genuine to me. Not saying it isn't, I'm just kinda wondering now...

Omg, R402. Bea looks a bit like Wallace of Wallace and Gromit fame in that photo.

R381 The Queen will never “pass” - Her Majesty would have no time for such ridiculous euphemisms.

She will, however, “die”. As will you, me and everybody else who isn’t already dead.

R403 please go back to celebitchy with your tired old Rose nonsense. For the last time, a Meghan supporter named Nicole Cliffe made up the rumors about Prince William and she admitted it herself on her social media. It never happened. Bye now.

R403, what if the real story all along was trouble in the Cholmonde-fuckit marriage? What if that is what was going on and Rose has been inviting guests over? She could be legitimately bored and in need of company. Nonetheless, Kate has an eagle eye for perfect behavior and could say to Wills "You need to cool it on the private dinners - not that you have done anything wrong or that I don't trust you implicitly - but because this situation has the potential for scandal and my job is to avoid anything that smells like scandal."

What if that is how it went down?

Laughable attempts to push the Rose rumours at r406 since it's not gaining traction anywhere else. The more this is pushed, the better Kate looks and more sympathy she amasses with the Brit public. Rose, who? as your bitchy feminist pals at Lainey and CB would say

***sorry i meant at R403

Prince Harry and Rhianna - in his dreams. There is no way he would have a chance with her. As for being MM's confidant, I hope Rhianna goes on the record to say it's bullshit.

Why isn't the block function working? Nobody wants to read R403.

Edo is in, in, so IN! You can tell Bea is smitten, and he seems quite happy to be there. I for one am rooting for the little Italian.

Cue the dreamy harp music... “Princess Beatrice Mapelli-Mozzi.” Will Edo get some sort of title?

Bea looks smitten at Prince Andrew's entrepreneur event

[quote] I often wonder does the PR team of MM come on here and try to plant dumb fucking stories

Of course we do. We have nothing else to do but post stories on DL.

That William and Kate date night story at R299 looks like the Cambridges trying to get out ahead of the Sun article on Rose.

I enjoy that level of naked PR from them. It's fake as fuck but I appreciate gusto with which they sell it.

Insert THE before gusto at R415

Tolerant as Kate may be, there is no way she’d sanction William’s “private dinners” with a voluptuous brunette, lonely and presumably sexless, who has a husband always away with his close “friends” in Paris.

Devastating story. The entire family is not happy with Harry. Something has gone terribly wrong. The move to Frog Cott was a disaster.

R415, agreed. Kate (or her advisors) are very good at PR. It’s more than instagram clickbait, after all.

R403 AKA the Laduree Macaron Tower Troll AKA Vice Undersecretary of the Meghan Markle Sucks A Giant Whale's Cock Club here. Y'alls calm the shit down. You understand that just because MM is a vapid famewhore who personifies the "be careful what you wish for" idiom doesn't logically imply that William didn't cheat on Kate, right? And did you not understand from my post when I repeatedly said I am not yet convinced he did? But that in the interest of honest gossip, I must consider that he may have? I mean, privileged male cheats on beautiful, loyal wife isn't exactly a shocking suggestion, right?

Will it help if I say of the two brothers I'd put my money on Harry being the more likely to stray?

Being so partisan is boring for gossip. I hope William didn't cheat on Kate and am open to the idea that he didn't. In fact R407 comes up with a very believable scenario whereby a bored young aristo wife gets a little too friendly with a friend's husband and said friend nips that shit right in the bud (which is totally what Kate would do, you can tell) before it can go beyond sloppy giggles and hungry stares over roast p(h)easant. But just because I dislike Meghan and her army of fraucophants doesn't mean I have to become one of them but just for another player.

And for the record, I don't think there was any Kate PR in that Sun article. I'm convinced her PR strategy (outside of her official work and lovely photos of her and her family on social media) is to follow the RF adage of never complain, never explain. She's made the right choice not to get involved in this tabloid fuckery, and Meghan would do well to follow her (obviously too late on that, though).

R419 I didn't say the cosmo piece was good PR. I said I enjoy it. The facts that it is glaringly obvious undermines its effectiveness IMO.

There's an interesting comment on R328's link - QEII is the first monarch since George II not to have their life overlap with Queen Victoria's.

That's a lot of monarchs: George III, George IV, William IV, Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII and George VI.

R403 R407 R420 We don't buy your bullshit sorry, stop trying to spin old debunked stories dressed up with new details.

William and Rose didn't happen and of course there are new stories in the press again because on Saturday MM looked like a beached whale and the Cambridges looked fabulous hence the new (old) stories of Rose and William. If anyone knows a narc they know the get filled with rage and jealousy and act out in a pretty puerile manner. MM wasn't expecting Louis to be so cute and for her to be pushed to the back of the balcony, so the Cambridges must be punished. I'm surprised that is all MM has left in her arsenal tbh, it's pretty pathetic because no one really believes it.

R406 is the hilarious Fuck Off Back To Celebitchy Troll.

The Sun have an article on Rose and the adulterous Egghead now, so it isn't just gossip site rumours

R414 is the Wordpress Troll, always trying to persuade people to read Skippy's ugly blog.

Stephen Fry and his husband looked really bad at Princess Eugenie's wedding. The straight guests had better style than the homosexuals.

R418 is the Wordpress Troll, not R414.

Vast whale Fry and his tiny young gold digging husband.

R417 is the Welp Troll. He always thinks people are gay and closeted, including, in this instance, Rose's husband.

R423 is the ugly, aggressive Narc Troll.

The delusion is strong with r424, aka the Egghead troll. Were you inspired because Meghan looks like Humpty Dumpty?

Nope, just Fuglliam's bald pate, like a boiled egg.

Are there any full-body shots of Humpty Dumpty on the balcony?

I don't think so. She was hiding behind the children lol.

r424 Is this the article you are talking about. Not seeing anything about adultery or an affair. So it still is internet whispers.

nothing conclusive in the Sun or DM stories. In fact there is no "source" either that's talking about their 'closeness'. So it's still at chinese whisper level. But good job beating a horse with no legs.

Stephen Fry looks terrible in that pic.

Why is this thread greyed out??

Don’t like MM but why is she being blamed for the Rose Will affair gossip updates? These leaks could be coming from anywhere?

She's perhaps not being blamed for the leak but her team's definitely keeping the news alive. Cmon think about it..you're the new entrant being accused of tiara tantrums and incessant showboating while Harry's popularity plummets..wouldnt you and your PR seize this fortuitous piece of 'news' and milk it? esply if there's no love lost with Team Cambridge? You do know this is how showbiz and politics work- and this is a bit of both.

R420 (LTT), I’m NOT a fan of MM and generally prefer Will and Kate, but I agree. Why is it impossible that Will had a fling with the chin-challenged Rose? Pointing it out may be a Markle move, but it may have happened. I’m sorry for Kate if it did. Terrible judgment on both their parts.

Who knows on the affair. I think it’s possible for sure (and I admit I’m a Kate fan) but I agree with someone up thread that it is an odd story to be coming out or such a contrast with everyone noticing how much happier/more at peace/settled/ etc K&W have seemed this last year or so following Louis.

Everyone, pls give W&W to the OP. Prior BRF threads were closed, as were the beloved Dangling Tendrils threads.Posters are not trying to close this thread, which you can help offset by clicking W&W for the OP.

WTF- there's NOTHING offensive in these posts!! The crazies all have been run off.

The crazies never go far, R444. You can't run 'em off; they circle the site like ravenous sharks, waiting to pounce on the first negative thing said about Smugz. Then they lose their ever lovin' minds and go into a snapping frenzy.

all of them except r445 obviously

No r397, that would be us.

R445- Oops im so sorry. I didn't read your post properly- I thought it was that annoying troll that writes poetry!! Apologies. Gah, I feel like an idiot. You're obviously not a crazy

It's okay, R448! I knew you weren't addressing me! And yes, the poetry has to stop.

R427, Mad Skippy isn't on Wordpress, she's on the teen site Tumblr.

I'm not the Wordpress Troll, but there are two very good accounts (not blogs) on there , very well written, and no hint of crazy. Those two account holders actually KNOW what they are talking about.

Sunshine Sachs hiring Social Media Analyst in New York, New York ... www.linkedin.com Anonymous View Sunshine SachsNew York, New York, United States ... Community managing clients' social media channels – monitoring for important mentions and responding...

Quaker Oats and Monsanto and politicians have social media management teams, of course celebrities do as well. Anyone who thinks everyone posting on here is some regular Joe or Jane is a bit naive. Have you heard of Google alerts? Block the trolls and move on. Endless discussion of them is a bit boring and derails the thread. Unless that is your goal, follow the instructions of Muriel and just block them.

Thank you, R451.

Most important: DO NOT GET SUCKED INTO ARGUING WITH THEM. They are trying to get these threads shut down.

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You nutfucks are going to get these threads permanently deleted all by your own doing.

Referring to a baby as growing up to be "the first black man with red pubes" and all the other suspect things you've written about the windsor children. Borderline pedos the lot of you.

Don't be surprised if the threads not only get shut down, but you get your ip looked up and police reports filed. You're not as anonymous as you think.

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R378 - Depends how old George is at the time. If he's 16, the likelihood is that Kate, after nearly two decades within the family, will at a minimum be made a Privy Councillor, and a Regent would be so much window dressing, as the legal age of succession is 18. However, there is no law preventing Parliament agreeing to skip a Regency if the next in line is under 18 but close to it. Kate would be made a Privy Councillor to, as they say, "saferguard" her son's interests.

The Regent is supposed to be the next in the line of succession who is over 21. If William dies before George reaches 18, that would be Harry. If something has happened to Harry, as well, whilst Willliam is King, with Harry's children even younger than George, I regret to inform you all that the next in line as Regent would be . . . .

HRH Prince Andrew, Duke of York (shades of the Wars of the Roses, as the male Sovereign is also technically the Duke of Lancaster). If Andrew has also been raptured, his eldest daughter, HRH Princess Beatrice of York, becomes Regent.

The press would have a blast.

R453 - The DM should be paying us here on DL.

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When is the next big "jewel and gown" competition, which Kate always seems to win?

I really can't see how Harry could possibly be considered as regent, his past is public knowledge. His own father let the rehab leak.

We would end up with the naked, swastika-d, vodka eyeballing, coke snorting pictures being rerun again and again.

I would assume that Kate would have a council of advisers and family. Andrew, Anne and Edward being involved.

At the end of the day, the BRF is all about protecting the crown.

OMFG, Fergie's dress (R459) is a horror of epic proportions. Her breasts are scary, too.

R457, Actually several YouTube video hosts, one of which I linked on DL, immediately picked up on the interaction between MM and her husband. Also stated exactly what he told her. Further explained why MM was dressed so conservatively wearing navy blue, and standing in the back row. Believe inside sources who want MM's antics exposed to the public are revealing info.

Photos of the Earl of Wessex's visit to Cumbria yesterday.

Order of the Garter ceremony on 17 June is not so much gowns but dressy R460. Kate , Queen Letizia and Queen Maxima will be reunited so I'm looking forward to seeing their fashion choices.

Thank you, R465!

Fergie is starting to dress like Vanessa Feltz!

Flashback Friday - little Lilibet.

Same balcony story/question is running in all the tabloids, now.

So....we'll either be overwhelmed with SL PR in the next few hours, or the palace will blow lower, lol.

I'm hoping for the latter. Give us some gossip!

Do those tabloids read DL? LOL

"turn around" Harry said. "look" he said.

mystery solved LOL.

Fergie's dress is lovely, just not on her. Why does she always insist on wearing black? It highlights her worst features.

Fergie suits jewel colours.

A real gem of a reaction to the rumored Rihanna friendship on Lipstick Alley: "We have already lost Oprah and Serena and possibly Beyonce to this bad built heathen. If Robin Fenty gets on board with this train wreck, I am unsubscribing from Savage X Fenty. Me and mom can just go back to wearing age appropriate bras! "

And the lovely way he said it, R470. If my husband spoke to me like that on a balcony in front of millions of people, he'd never have sex with me again.

R474, Clearly there's schism between MM and her husband or there wouldn't be so many leaks in the Daily Fail et al of serious discord. Prince Harry is choosing BRF loyalty over his wife. Recall the stories of her overspending and lying about being pregnant with Archie? Well, where is he? Why don't we know about all of the staff she would have had to have hired?

And if he IS choosing the BRF over his ham-handed wife, then it's the first intelligent thing he's done in......well, ever.

Harry would never, ever, ever be able to make it on his own. He needs the BRF, whereas they could get on quite fine without him. I wonder if that's actually dawned on him. The York ladies could fill in for him. He's totally expendable.

The York ladies are bringing the interest, Eug is not long married, so a baby is undoubtedly on the horizon. And Bea is bringing delicious gossip with her interesting and quite intriguing boyfriend. Plus, they have stepped up to the mark, attending engagements with ease, no ham handedness, they have slotted into what appear to be new roles very nicely.

Everyone is so over Harry and his grasping wife. Maybe he has woken up? Maybe MM shouldn't have taught him to be more woke? Maybe it has opened his eyes.

R423, this is R407. Did you actually comprehend my post before putting me on blast? Because it's clear from the scenario I proposed that I do not believe the rumor about Rose and Will and am digging in to discover the why of it all. Aside from Meg's friend running with the "OOH - look over here - Will's cheating!" angle SOMETHING happened in the house of Chomleythehell.

Now we know that even though it's a gorgeous pile, she only lives in a portion of it because it's on the tour circuit to make money for upkeep. Her boring old husband is partying all the time in Paris. She's stuck alone in the country, without any attention (no longer modeling) and inviting people over for dinners. Kate zeroed in on the potential for inappropriateness and shut it down. Will shut it down. Meg's stan ran with it as "Will is Cheating!!" And you are criticizing me for sussing this out.

You're a bore and an oxygen-stealer. If you haven't considered fucking off, it's time.

R462, she's 60 years old. Her breasts aren't supposed to excite you. Someone needs to remind Madonna of those numbers.

Ok, a lot of the press are running stories about the nanny, and the very extensive NDA..

From Cosmo.....

" A separate source told Bazaar.com that the British born nanny doesn’t work weekends and isn’t based at Frogmore cottage, before insisting that Meghan and Harry are keen to do the bulk of the hard work on their own."

Why not live at FroHo? Because no-one lives there?

Harry doesn't appear to be doing any " bulk of the hard work ", he's never home.

Is this extensive NDA thing across so many outlets, because the real truth is that someone has walked, and threatened to talk? ( Don't shoot the messenger).

"Doesn't work weekends", " doesn't live in " sounds more like my grandmother's home care package.

WTF with all the mystery and the cross stories? Why all this attention when she screams she wants privacy? I reckon the next six months are going to be pretty explosive, when it comes to the Sussex duo.

Cause I may be bad but I'm perfectly good at it

Sex in the air, I don't care, I love the smell of it

Sticks and stones may break my bones

But Fergie's breasts excite me

R481, that’s a very interesting revelation: nanny is not Frogmore-based. (I’m one of the insane conspiracy theorists that suspect they don’t live at Frogmore.)

Also, if your only job is a newborn, it’s not heavy work. It’s low-level drudge, and constant. Breastfeeding is demanding because it needs to be done every two or three hours at the beginning - if you’re doing it as requested and not using bottles. The hard work is managing everything else; laundry and shopping and cooking. And we know she’s not doing THAT.

R482 = low standards which match Fergie's breasts.

No doubt the York women are being tested and primed to fill in where the Sussexes can’t/won’t. Harry does seem to show up for his engagements, although unsmiling and sloppily- and casually-dressed.

It can’t be lost on him that his cousins are willing and able to perform the “boring” duties that are beneath his wife.

A Princess Royal was made on this day in 1987.

^^ and it’s just the sort of low-key tactic The Firm would employ.

And they can even fill the soap opera requirements, as r478 points out. There’s enough gossip fodder with Edo and a Eug baby that they can replace the Sussexes in the tabloids as well as in the official duties.

There’s always someone coming up behind you...

Harry is not the man for facial hair - it's just not a good look on him. To be fair, he's a ginger and though ginger women may be beautiful it's a heavier lift for a man. Why is he sporting it when it really only makes him look frizzier and rumpled? Can't someone give this man a makeover? Is it because he ribbed Wills for so long about the hair loss, that now he's losing his own he's aiming for distraction? It's not working. He looks like a muppet, of late.

Photos of fabulous gems on the Queen's cousin, Princess Alexandra of Kent.

R451 is the infamous and hilarious Welp Troll, guys. Nothing on earth will convince her that pro MM comments on here come from any source other than PR firms .... but the pro Kate comments are all #organic.

She has been suffering from these paranoid delusions for years and years. Between 2012 and 2018, she accused everyone who didn't believe in Larry Stylinson of being 'a psycho Syco shill'.

Speaking of Princess Alexandra...It has been reported that Princess Alexandra is considering retiring from royal duties. She confided to an acquaintance, “The day they had me inspect a wall of yellow fire-fighters' outfits was the limit."

Oh dear. The time may have come.

We're back to saying Meghan lied to Harry about being pregnant? Logic is sorely lacking here.

Notice there's no mention of Meghan bringing Archie to TTC to meet the rest of the family. If they're all staring at a silicone baby, then the entire BRF is complicit in defrauding the British taxpayers.

And, for the idiots frothing at the mouth, that includes HM, the DoE, William the Bald and Saint Catherine of the Yacht as they've all acknowledged meeting Archie.

Pick a new lie and lay this one to rest.

I volunteer to inspect the firefighters.

This necklace gets around...from Queen Alexandra to two Duchesses of Gloucester.

[quote] The DM should be paying us here

The delusion of obsessed fraus the world over.

'Actually several YouTube video hosts, one of which I linked on DL, immediately picked up on the interaction between MM and her husband. Also stated exactly what he told her. Further explained why MM was dressed so ...'

You mean that insane yeehaw trailer trash woman you hilariously thought we'd take seriously? Crackpot CTer.

The Trooping outfits of Princess Alexandra's granddaughters Zenouska Mowatt and Flora Ogilvy.

The York girls are beasts, with tragic taste in clothes. DOS is a runway model compared to those 2.

"DOC is a runway model compared to those 2".

There, I fixed it for you.

It didn't need fixing.

R479 Oh dear did I hit a nerve by calling out your real intentions? How on earth do you know whether Rose was on her own in the country and please don't say you know because The Sun newspaper said it.

Now run along back to CB to obsess over the eating arrangements of Rose.

What's with the delusional bitches on here pretending that there's nothing to the Rose, William, Kate story?

This a thread with posters who believe the Sussexes don't live at Frogmore based purely on an anonymous post from someone who claimed they walked their dog nearby.

The fucking Times ran a story on the falling out between Kate and Rose. It's no smoking gun but there seems to be more than enough to gossip about. Besides, the Cambridges are acting like they're on the defensive. They are notoriously private. William sued a photographer for taking a picture of George from a public path. Yet right after the story broke Will and Kate allowed themselves to be photographed on a family day out with the Tindalls. Now they've let a hotel post an image from their "secret" date in Cumbria.

How much more is needed for this to be fair speculative gossip fodder?

Well, whatever happened (or didn’t) with Rose, the Cambridges are still performing their duties with a united front. They’re showing up for their engagements, well-dressed and smiling.

R498, agree.

The DoS has more style in her little finger than the fat, frumpy Pork girls have in their entire bodies. Everything they wear is a disaster, especially Fugenie.

Catherine may indeed be serving her people well according to the study at the link. Clever cause to champion and one that seems quite genuine. Long and short game to the Cambs.

The playfulness and ease of the parents and children in the garden videos is something the Sussexes will never be able to match.

William was fighting a cold at TTC and George seemed to be under the weather. He seems happy and energetic typically in public, his being subdued and his father feeling his forehead suggest a mild illness. All 3 kids seem happy and well connected to their parents. Good for them.

William has gone through all Harry has, and did not remain a manchild. At mid-life, that is really on Dim, not his past.

R500 - oh but I'm afraid it did need fixing much like Meghan's fashion choices.

Bad colors and/or same boring colors, ugly hats, bad stitching, ill-fitting expensive clothes, hanging tendrils and tags etc...definitely more misses than hits for Duchess Yoko.

R501 is as dim as Smeg's husband.

R502, the racist fraus here are deep in denial about William the Bald's infidelity because 'Kate looks happy'. Absolutely ridiculous, when it has been discussed in the broadsheets.

The moron who tells everyone to 'fuck off back to Celebitchy' is here yet again, too.

All I can say is "WTF?" for this fashion choice of Eugenie's.

R502, because that story is apparently either A) completely made up or B) completely over.

Like yesterday's oatmeal, it's cold and boring.

R487, in theory, Bea and Eugenie could be seen as supporting cast remembers but they're not supplanting the son of the heir to the British throne. No amount of drama will downgrade Harry's position within that hierarchy. Wish for something else, dear.

And, while I look forward to Edo joining the BRF, I understand the storm that would come from him marrying Beatrice. You can't possibly despise Meghan so much that you can't see that Edo is beyond "gossip fodder"... he's a train wreck. Out of wedlock son, jilted fiancée, social (dick) climbing mother, no discernible income or profession, blended family issues...it is a lot and the taxpayers will be expected to cover a nice chunk of that.

Strangely enough, I see them using the acceptance of Meghan as the reason to shoe horn Edo in, even though they're two separate kettles of fish. And, it will lead to the reintroduction of Fergie which, while entertaining, will be a mistake. They will have to be smart...you think the Sussexes are grasping? Wait for the rebranded House of York, headed by everyone's favorite dolt, Andrew.

They will be the source of delight for the gossip mongering public and a whirling dervish of hell for the BP suits. They'll reminisce fondly for the 'innocuous' panderings of Meghan.

'The playfulness and ease of the parents and children in the garden videos is something the Sussexes will never be able to match.'

How the hell do you know this, absurd Welp Troll? Harry and Meghan look genuinely in love, which Bald and Kate never did. Harry kept holding her hand at engagements against all royal protocol. Their interactions with Archie will also be tender.

R510 A story being completely made up has never stopped it from being fair game: surrogacy theory; moon bump; Darren the silicone baby...

This syndicated thread thinks Lord Snowden, the sucking of Fergie's toes, the execution of the Romanovs and Diana, Princess of Wales are current topics. Nothing is completely over on this BRF thread.

R502 - The fucking TIMES also ran the Tiaragate story with no evidence except that Jobson included it in his book and the tabloids ran the story. The TIMES doesn't mind sullying its hands once in a while. The TIMES running it means nothing. There was no more "evidence" about William shagging Rose than there was about Tiaragate, Meghan abusing staff whilst at Admiralty House Down Under, or anything else . . . some of the stories seem more persuasive and some less, but given the Sussexes' increasing desperation to improve their unexpectedly lousy performance in the press and Meghan's in the popularity polls compared to Kate, taking the Cambridges down is the next best thing to doing better with the public and the press on their own.

You back into by asking, "Cui bono?"

The Sussexes, particularly in their own disordered minds, are the only ones who benefit from a story that damages the Cambridges, especially given that contrary to all predictions, Meghan not only hasn't outshone Kate, she's made Kate look like Princess Perfect.

Rose and her husband don't benefit, the Cambridges don't benefit, the BRF don't benefit . . . only the Sussexes could possibly benefit from the leak of a story like that.

Is it prima facie evidence? No. But the story itself doesn't have prima facie evidence, either.

The Welp Troll accuser is certainly tenacious.

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What was rumored to have happened with Meghan and staff in Australia? I keep seeing it referenced, but have never read the actual details.

The trolls are lining up! We now have the notorious Narc Troll at R516! Every single thing that happens to DoS is because she is a 'narc'.

These trolls are comedy gold.

Uh-oh! Someone get R514 her CPAP machine! It's gossip! We don't need a shred of proof! Log off if you don't like what's posted! Lighten up and get a sense of humor! Fuck off back to WordPress! (Did I miss one? If so, apologies.)

Look, Mabel...the Rose story has been printed and corroborated by people running in those circles. Giles Coren posted about it before deleting. There may have been an affair, there may not have been but the Cambridge's current behavior is terribly obvious that they're trying to portray a united front. The date night leak is out of character for them; why was it done?

Blaming the Sussexes is beyond stupid; I'm sure they have seen/heard better gossip about William the Bald and Coalmining Catherine. They are not bothered about their pseudolove or the attention they receive, as there is room for everyone. Sadly, people like you don't get that.

The media doesn't play favorites when it comes to circulation and William dipping out on his pretty wife like his father, sells. There is no honor amongst thieves and no amount of mudslinging okayed by William to keep his shit hidden will keep papers from making a buck. It's only a matter of time before we find out exactly why the brothers remain estranged...betting on William throwing the Sussexes under the bus being the root cause.

Diva types making demands and annoying the hell out of everyone don't last seven years on globally syndicated shows. Most of this narc nonsense springs from racism.

r519 Who are "people"? You seem to be only able to name one person who has got links with Sparkle and a reputation for being a drunken arse.

'The Sussexes' increasing desperation to improve their unexpectedly lousy performance in the press and popularity polls.'

They are getting twice as many likes on their IG as Bald and Yacht Girl, so I doubt they care what a few thousand Brits say in a poll.

R512 has never had a relationship that exceeded 4 months which didn't end in addiction or abandonment.

R523 is still a virgin at 67.

instagram likes/followers can literally be easily bought, nobody other than desperate brands uses those stats as pure reason to identify 'popularity'

R521, drunk or not, he moves in those circles. It also blows up the lie about Meghan's friend/plant making the whole story up and admitting to the lie.

If that was the case, the papers would be printing what they knew to be libelous, opening themselves up to litigation. But, the stories keep coming...wonder why that is?

[quote] The Sussexes, particularly in their own disordered minds, are the only ones who benefit from a story that damages the Cambridges

The media benefit from the story more than the Sussexes. Sex sells. Depending on how the Cambridges spin the story, they could benefit too. The "feud" between the brothers and the Turnip Toff foolishness has generated more interest in Cambridges than they've had since the maybe the wedding, or possibly George's birth.

I don't know if William dipped in pen in other inkwells but it wouldn't be strange if he did. I find it silly that posters are saying it's outside the realm of possibility.

R514 Tiaragate may or may not be true, but it's accepted as credible enough to gossip about in these parts. The Turnip Toff story is in the same category ie a rumour that has enough legs to make it to the broadsheets. There is no need for "evidence" beyond that on a gossip thread.

How can he move in those circles when his circle is Oxfordshire? Not Norfolk. During a drunken interview he accused his neighbours of being drug addled swingers. This is the Oxford / Great Tew neighbours. Where Meg and Harry were reported to be living. Soho Farmhouse vicinity.

Not, Norfolk. He has no friends nor enemies in Norfolk. So has does not mingle in that area.

Wow the PR is heavy on this thread, is something good coming in the Sunday papers I wonder?

BTW, the Cambridges seem to be using the spotlight for a rebranding as a hardworking couple situated in an idyll of domestic bliss.

Bitches, Kate and William didn't have a secret date night. They took tea, and took a shower. Who wouldn't after being knuckle deep near a sheep's clunge?

The press ran away with the Inn at the Lake's SM post. The press made the " secret date" thing up. It was refreshments, wash and a change.

R527 - "There is no need for "evidence" beyond that on a gossip thread".

Perhaps. But there is need for more evidence for natural skeptics like me to believe the rumors.

"Printed and corroborated" by "people who know".

Such as, for example: the media and people seething with spite. Right. In that case, we have no problem insisting that the entire BRF hates Meghan Markle's guts, that Harry is already regretting his hasty decision, that the Africa trip is a prelude to getting the Sussexes out of Britain because the public can't stand her, either, and her million dollar wardrobe . . . I guess, then, that Robert Jobson's bio on Charles that came out in spring 2018 running the "What Meghan wants, Meghan gets!" quote by Harry is, therefore . . . gospel truth.

Send MegAntoinette out sheep shearing! That would prove her worth!

R531 - we don't know what happened between Will and Kate and neither do you.

Meghan is not 37, more like 40, 41. The way she was constantly holding on to her stomach, pulling back her coats to stick it out and the way she constantly cradled it was abnormal behavior. I wouldn’t be surprised if they used a surrogate. The way everything was handled about the birth was extremely odd. I’m no conspiracy theorist; if you look at Meghan’s childhood and adolescence, they are of a child from the 70’s. The Danja Zone lady might be a CT but if you look at the video she posted of all Meghan’s photos it is proof.

R532 My comments are directed at people who keep dismissing any discussion of the Rose rumour as the ravings of Megastans who work for Sunshine Sachs. The story may be true or it may be false, but I think there's enough there for a discussion by skeptics and lovers of royal gossip.

That's my 2 cents.

R527 - I have no objection to gossip. I object to someone insisting that I have to believe gossip on its face. People who don't like the Cambridges jeer at people who aren't taking the Rose-William story seriously (which I don't) and people who don't like the Sussexes jeer at people who don't take the Tiaragate or staff abuse or Duchess Difficult stories seriously.

Rose isn't even particularly good-looking. William's got a lot on his plate these days, and his wife has behaved with stellar discretion in her role. Certainly the media benefit by it. The whole "rural rival-turnip Toffs" story smelled. So did the Meghan sex tape story.

Am I happy to gossip about them? Yes. Do I take umbrage at being called naive if I really don't think people talking and media frenzy feeding constitute "corroboration"? Also yes.

R514- Everything you said is absolutely spot on.

R512- Are you a frau? Harry and Meghan are sooooo in love because they HELD HANDS??? On camera? Seriously? You must think Brad and Angie WERE THE PERFECT COUPLE TOO (until they weren't) because omg their CHEMISTRY IN PUBLIC!!! Give me a break. And Im not saying that Will and St Kate look in love or anything but at least they're not desperate or cloying. There very well might be cheating or issues in the marriage but it looks like a proper grown up relationship. The other two are trying to sell OMG THE PRINCE AND THE SHOWGIRL 2.0 to tweens and millennials and cringeworthy beyond belief! Seriously, I haven't met a single adult in the UK who thinks they're such an aspirational couple because of their great love. Nobody thinks that about Will and Kate either but sheesh, you are gullible and standing hard. Take it down a notch, please.

R525, stop being naive. 3m bought likes would be beyond obvious. Meghan and Harry are popular on a global scale, unlike Bald and Yacht Girl. You might think Meghan being a POC is meaningless, but the whole world disagrees with you.

**stanning

***and it's cringeworthy

I don't think it's possible for Megs to shave 4 years off her age. That crazed sister would have already blabbed by now.

R539 - Nailed it. And R512 is a total frau troll who seems to forget that Meghan is . . . an ACTRESS.

[quote] his wife has behaved with stellar discretion in her role.

When has that ever stopped a man from cheating?

I'm not sure what to think about the Rose Hanbury rumours. For those who remember: when did Charles's affair with Camilla first become public knowledge?

Diana was pregnant with William when she appeared on the balcony after the Trooping The Colour.

R518 Shall henceforth be known as the "Troll" troll. If you criticize The Duchess Yoko of Sucking - for any reason whatsoever - you are a troll.

Meghan is not popular in the UK. Only cat ladies, chavs and old men in the North care about the BRF and nobody cares for her. They care for Charles and Camilla even less and no amount of gardening or image rehab will ever change that- which is a pity because I quite like Cam myself. Currently Kate, Harry and William have an unbeatable popularity. It's the honest truth and honestly the rest is just spin, spin, spin.

R544 - It's no guarantee of fidelity but in this case and at this point in his life as he moves ever closer to becoming Prince of Wales, William has a great deal more to lose. And the family's sympathies would be with his dutiful, well-behaved wife. Why the fuck bother? What does he get out of it? A few rolls in the hay. He and his wife looked genuinely close and happy on the balcony last week. The Sussexes didn't. And Harry looked sullen in the carriage ride, never looking once at his wife, nor did Camilla. I think the optics don't suggest an embittered wife holding the side up nobly. I think they suggested a close family and a close married couple.

William knows the game well enough. If he did decide to have it off on the side, he'd have been much more careful than that.

Hilarious Welp Troll at R529! She thinks ALL pro Meg comments are made by social media managers!

R545 - The public always knew about Charles's fondness for Camilla, but his return to her arms as his marriage went from difficult to impossible (which I think was a couple of years after Harry's birth) was an open secret for years in the upper levels of society, because his friends offered him "safe houses" where he could stay with her. It was the Morton book that blew it all open for the public in 1992.

R527

"I don't know if William dipped in pen in other inkwells but it wouldn't be strange if he did. I find it silly that posters are saying it's outside the realm of possibility."

That's because you're gay. He's a straight guy who was traumatized by his father's cheating. He married the most emotionally grounded and family oriented woman he ever met (who's good looking in high fashion). He married a mature, emotionally stable version of his mother - so that he could "undo" what his father did. He's going to be emotionally and physically faithful spouse, and an emotionally and physically available parent. This is his way of undoing what happened to his mother. He's not going to let it happen to his children.

Cambridges seem genuinely happy. Can’t fake it. And I’m jealous. Does anybody envy empty-headed Harry or always scheming Meg?

R520 You aren't educated enough to discern the difference between racism and disdain. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Small tidbit around Charles's returning to Camilla - one of her friends at the time is alleged to have exclaimed, "Leave it to Camilla to reheat a soufflé!"

Well, Im not the WELP troll but any time the comments here lose their chill and become frantic and desperate in their defence- it really does stick out like a sore thumb. Nobody cares that much, unless we're talking tiaras or Diana and Fergie. That should be your first clue that PR interns have arrived (And it's not about Markle- I have noticed this and have had other ppl comment on this phenomenen in other threads too. Eg- Is Chris Evans gay? Was RDJ's bisexuality manufactured? The moment this comes up, threads just become bizarre and hectic from then on and you know the flacks have descended.

"Leave it to Camilla to reheat a soufflé!"- Hilarious! Hehe.

'That should be your first clue that PR interns have arrived.'

The Cambridges' PR interns must be working round the clock on these threads, if that's the case.

R557 - And THAT's the airy fun shit we should have more of!

R540 The whole world doesn't pay for their upkeep. The Brittish do. Keep that in mind.

You dipshit.

r558- probably. Did not deny it. But the Meghan interns suck the joy out of this thread and are FFing it to high heavens. Very bloody annoying. Go away pls and let us gossip in peace. And hey, Sara, don't coin a new term for us British 'deplorable' who don't like your gal. it won't end well. HRC was a quality candidate but this one aint going to retain her support.

--deplorables

More correctly, the British pay for the upkeep of HRH Prince Harry, and whomever he is married to (however unfortunate) at the time. The BRF protects HRH Prince Harry because he is of them. His wife is protected only insofar as it avoids collateral damage.

Some of the posters here seem so bourgeois and unworldly. I’m weary and stunned over the outrage. Regardless William’s fidelity or not, aristocrats/ royalty have always had extramarital affairs, lovers and mistresses. No one in their set cares. For example, King Edward VII and Prince Philip are among countless others recently and throughout history.

The Royals are maintained because of the boost they give to tourism, so yes, the world does pay Meghan's keep.

R564, no outrage over Bald's adultery, yet Off With Her Head over dangling tendrils and price tags?

2019 is not forgiving of marital transgressions at all, especially when the wife is beautiful and sweet.

Patently untrue and faulty reasoning, R565. The Royal family has been feeding plebs this line about 'earning from tourism' for decades. Simply not true. The money they get is the loot from duchies and from citizens and they don't earn back squat from tourism. The tourists would still come and see BP, KP and Clarence House if the BRF were not there.

So no the world is NOT paying her bills, unfortunately. It's just us fools.

R5660 "no outrage over Bald's adultery, yet Off With Her Head over dangling tendrils and price tags?" umm yes? Is this your first time on the DL?? NOBODY cares about marital transgressions and EVERYONE cares about dangling tendrils!! FFS!!! Stop embarrassing yourselves with this frau nonsense on A GAY WEBSITE!!

TLDR: Do NOT care if Harry or William cheating, only care about Diana and Fergie and DO NOT care for shite fashion- THAT is unforgivable. Clearer now?

It's absurd and very naive to assert that William wouldn't be absolutely hated and reviled by the British public if he was found to be committing adultery. This is a different world even from the 1980s. If you think the fraus and #MeToo crowd would overlook that, you are completely out of touch. Cheating when his baby son is only one year old? His popularity rating would plummet.

R567 - I love British history and much of the love comes from a childhood of reading about kings, queens, princes, princesses and their exploits. Of course, I can only speak for myself but the castles and palaces are so much more interesting BECAUSE of the people who still live there. These places wouldn't be half as intriguing for me if they were empty. It gives them a life of their own. The exceptions may be Versailles (I'm a big Louis The Sun King fan) and the Hermitage (Catherine the Great and her excellent Art collection).

Thank you, R551.

Good God, the question on my mind is: Did she finish it? If yes, did someone have to carry her to the car?

Way up the thread at r510, but the posts in these threads are still bring up shit from a year ago AND MORE when it comes to MM. So no, the story is not cold oatmeal. You, however, may be.

R569- Learn to READ. I said nobody cares for transgressions on the DATALOUNGE, Im not talking about the imminent meltdown of fraus the world over about the places Will's peen has been. Please go to Celebitchy and whine about Katie's buttons and DoS's banana bread, THANK YOU. Namaste.

A video of the Queen with her mother or "Mummy" at the races.

Jesus, the dumb Celebitchy Namaste Troll at R574 is absolutely tragic. Attempting to shut down debate again and again. She wants the entire 72 threads to be echo chambers repeating 'MM is a nefarious narc' over and over again.

All the dirt thrown on the Cambridges is not going to make Meghan look better by comparison.

A video of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in England with other members of the Royal Family present. Notice who acknowledges them and who ignores them.

I never said that R576. I DO NOT think MM is narc at all actually. But stop moralising and sermonising on bourgeoise marital ethics. It's the DL. Seriously. Have you never been here?

R577, Bald's adultery makes the Harkle marriage look strong in comparison. Everyone knows Harry married for love and William's was a marriage of convenience only.

sorry, should be bourgeois and 'a narc'

Camilla gets to wear a lot of the Queen Mum's jewellery.

The Queen Mum had her own look.

R552, you withered bitch. Where the fuck do you get off implying such bullshit? How fucking dare you? You are so ridiculously stupid for those little remark suggesting that gay men aren't capable of fidelity but it's one of the things I've complained about over and over again in these threads: the bigotry, racism and homophobia goes from dog whistle level to overt, with few calling it out.

William is blowing another bitch's back out...bet on it. No amount of Eliza Doolittling is going to make Coalmining Catherine a true toff and William, who is known to be a massive snot, appreciates the stability of his home life and is doing his duty but finding happiness elsewhere. Like his father. And, grandfathers before that.

Kate may wear the jewels but she doesn't even have her husband's heart. She hasn't cracked yet and for that I give credit...she's already passed the eating disorder stage and has now reached the country rival bit. Next is Kate herself cheating...she's following the Diana playbook right before our eyes. From the engagement ring (what kind of woman would accept a ring associated with such a toxic marriage? A deluded, desperate one), the maternity dress choice, down to repeating dressing her sons up in the exact outfits of the her husband and BIL. As you lot like to crow, "the optics" are telling a story of a very fragile, one-sided love affair.

But, you're a piece of shit; you wouldn't know genuine affection if it slapped across your jowly maw. Bitch.

R568, your type is almost as bad as R552. You're okay with her thinking as long as she's maligning Meghan? Okay, bruh...

R578, that's crazy, it's like MM on the TTC balcony. But not only that....the jaw gurning. I have time for the original Wallis, though. She had style.

"Dog whistle " Dog whistle"

R584 - why don't you try to practice less bigotry yourself? Your post just reeks of misogyny.

Is the corgi waiting for a treat or is he going to lunge for her ankles?

Good one, R586.

I think the page has turned and no matter how much her PR huff and puff, we, the public have all seen behind the curtain.

The strenuous attempts to get this thread closed or to drive people off it does make me wonder about those Sunday papers. ;)

The next thread is up but please post on here until it gets to around 600. Thanks.

WEHT Tiara troll? We need you now!

R567 I have zero time for that "they pay for themselves through tourism!" line, too. Not just for MM but for the lot of them. Every time I hear someone spout it (and I've been surprised over the past few years by how many ordinary people with low levels of interest in the BRF seem willing to do so - the PR has been successful there) I just roll my eyes. Pay for themselves. LOL.

Giles Coren, to the poster who cited him as a source for the Rose story, and for the record, does *not* run in the circles that Will and Kate run in. Coren and his sister are well educated and run in well-educated London media circles, but he's definitely not in the countryside aristo set. GC is a known ornery c*nt and anyone who has any idea of who he is knows that Tweet was just his usual mean-spirited 'thinks it's gonna be funny but it's just weird and mean' BS. I'm open to there possibly being some truth in the Rose rumours, but a random tweet from Sir Definitely Doesn't Get Invited To Those Parties isn't going to do it.

Lol @ R512 - really? I find Harry and Meghan clinging to and pawing at each other embarrassing and obviously OTT. In fact it's one of the reasons I don't think the marriage is going to last - they were both, early in the marriage, still in high school infatuation mode. Their romance was given no time to mature into whatever it is that it's going to mature into and when that honeymoon phase wears off (which it appears to be in the midst of rapidly doing) I think there's a decent chance of this eventually going spectacularly to hell.

Troll Troll, I'm going to have to block you again my dear. Someone else said you were tenacious as hell and they're right, I'll give you that. But it really is quite boring. Sometimes people disagree with you or have differing opinions to your own.

Sigh. R584 - Every now and again someone posts here who does genuinely sound unhinged. R552s reasoning is suspect to me, too (it is NOT an impossibility that Will - or Harry - will cheat "because Diana") but jfc, calm down. It's just gossip and it's meant to be fun.

A rare photo of a young Queen Mum.

Diana Ross and the Supremes meet the Queen Mum. Love the dresses.

She could drink a pint too!

Little Charles looked quite bored at his mother's coronation.

Princess Margaret curtseying to the Shah of Iran.

R587, you can fuck right off with your faux outrage re: my alleged misogyny towards that withered sack at R552. When she and her coven are vile with their misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic, racist prattling towards the BRF's latest punching bags, you sit quiet.

R552 is a big girl that can dish, so it means she can take. Be gone, Captain Save-A-Frau.

I'm female by the way and smell the fetid jealousy and hatred exuded by my fellow "women"; I'm not going to defend bullshit in the quest for gender solidarity. Sorry.

Necklace from Queen Mary's family was given to Princess Margaret. I wonder if Earl Snowdon will sell it off.

Time to say goodbye to this thread and post on the next one in the link.

R598- "Im a female by the way" Goes without saying. darling. Why are you here?

R584, You're too tragic for this world. Have a cuppa and calm down.