British Royal Family Gossip: Part 66

Can't wait for the Tiaras tonight!

The Trumps with Prince Andrew at Westminster Abbey.

The Trumps arrive at Buckingham Palace and poses with the Queen, Charles and Camilla.

The Queen shows Trump some of her collection.

Nice to see all the pomp.

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Here's the Sky livestream. Mainly idiotic commentary, except for Alastair Bruce, who really is worth listening to as he is full of interesting details

This is great - following Trump's endorsement of Boris Johnson (which he had no business giving)

Just like Obama's attempt at threatening 'the back of the line' re:Brexit, it's nothing new.

Photos at Clarence House.

Melania's phantom baby bump (aka middle age spread) can be seen better in these photos (especially the second to last one).

Now for some humour. I love this meme.

A cartoon.

Oh, Trump loves a parade

You know he just doesn't want to me there.

^ be there.

Griselda and Lurch have arrived at the Abbey.

She looks terrible!!!

Trump has hinted at a favourable bilateral agreement with the UK. Obama hinted that he wouldn't do the UK any favours if the blew up the relationship with the EU.

Obama didn't endorse British political candidates, never told the UK what geopolitical trade deal they should make, never said who the UK should put on the negotiating tea and didn't threaten to end an intelligence alliance if the British electorate voted for a party he didn't like.

Does any other culture put their hands on their hearts during the National Anthem?

Why are the two sluts in virginal white? Don’t they know the British Aristocracy love colorful clothing. Meh...

Another good meme.

The Queen is hiding.

Because they knew the Queen would be wearing a paler colour, perhaps R21. These things are planned meticulously.

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Old news by now, but I liked Melania's white outfit with navy trim and the summer boater. She obviously inquired about the other ladies' outfits so as to blend well, unlike she who will not be named.

I feel like Ivanka’s hair is too casual for this event. She needs to have it swept up or something. Even pinup waves would be better. It’s just not enough for the formality of the occasion.

Strangely enough, I really think he is this stupid.

A trip down memory lane. The Queen has met numerous US Presidents over the years.

Ok, that's way. Wink wink.

Someone wants Kate to wear something like this outfit.

R29 I never saw a color photo of that occasion. Love the ice blue of Jackie’s gown. She looks so fresh and modern next to the queen’s Mamie Eisenhower style.

[quote] Set into the floor of the nave of Westminster Abbey, the tomb represents all those Servicemen & women who died, but have no known Grave. ⁣

They're only war heroes because they don't have graves. I like soldiers that do have graves.

New engagement for the Cambridges on June 11.

Hasn't the Queen herself been moved out of Buckingham due to the renovations? They do seem pretty extensive.

I'm getting a Mary Poppins vibe from Melania's outfit.

I'll bet Kate is going to look jaw-droppingly gorgeous tonight. I'm thinking Bafta awards-level gorgeous

Another good cartoon.

Andrew spent some time with Jared and Ivanka.

A meme of truth.

All the fawning over Melania in the previous thread, yikes! She looks fine in clothes (tall and relatively thin) and has the money to buy the best, but other than that .... She was a two-bit titty model who married a vile creature for money and actively supported his birther conspiracy theory. She seems to have no interest in anything except fashion, shopping, and surgically altering her body to conform to trophy wife standards. May she rot in hell with the the rest of the Trump clan.

The Queen trolls Trump. I bet she knows he doesn't read. Love it.

Oh but it’s ok for Obama to say the UK can go to the back of the line.

And wasn’t it funny when Ivanka walked off

Agreed, R41. She's got those terrible enormous implants and that permanent standing-in-a-wind-tunnel/human cat face. She knows how to stfu, I'll give her that, but I always LOL at these descriptions of Melania as "classy" and "dignified." She's cheeseball as hell, and pulled so tight in certain shots she's beginning to look alien.

What I want to see Kate in tonight is red or maybe purple, something in that colour family. I suspect she'll be in something pale. I much prefer her in richer, more saturated colours and not pastels/pale beiges/ice blues. Mint green may be the exception but it's still not my favourite.

Is there anywhere the TV-less can watch it live tonight? Any of the news channels doing a Youtube livestream?

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Harry looked like a twat nobody wanted to talk to him

A sulky petulant twat.

Nothing new. What tiara do you think camilla and Kate will wear

Ok can’t stop laughing there is now a ballon of Khan to fly next to trump

Harry had every reason to be standoffish. Trump's crude comments about Diana were more than enough. He also made inappropriate attempts to date her. She felt stalked by him.

This whole thing has actually made me want to stick up for Harry.

Nothing about Melania suggests she would prefer Camilla's moumou dress and comfortable shoes.

18:23 Who ordered sandwiches?

A huge delivery of sandwiches was spotted trying to get in to Winfield House in Regent's Park where Donald Trump is staying.

It's not clear who they are for.

But Donald and Melania are due to have dinner with the Queen shortly.

From Sky News.

R53 it's the feeding of the 1000.

R51 He does have every right, but it’s also hilarious.

I usually love - yes, love - Melania's outfits but this white one is too youngish for her. It makes all her lumps and bumps standout. And she loks so uncomfortable. Not a fan of this one. Her evening wear will be outstanding I have no doubt.

^^ looks

Trump just can't help himself. He starts off well and then goes back to being his shitty self again.

The Trumps: always classy

What time does the dinner begin? I am ready to see tiara pics.

Lots of hard work goes into a State Dinner at Buckingham Palace. The Queen usually inspects the table before the guests arrive. Here are some photos.

r53 It will be for the household staff an security. That's who it is usually for.

Melania has dressed appropriately for the occassion, neither over nor under dressed. She looks smart and her clothing is well fitting, her hair is well coiffured. She looks classy. Unlike someone else who rarely looks classy and shall remain nameless.

R46, right? I just scrolled the pics and Melania is wearing high high stilettos with her toes all mushed into them practically en pointe in all them, tottering across lawns, cobblestones, and slippery tiles. She must be in absolute pain, but she grimaces and bears it, doesn't she? One must look long-limbed and fuckable at all times.

I'm picking bikini blimp over baby blimp

Almost ready.

As **tight** as Melania's dress is, you just know Camilla is green with envy. At least Cammy's boobies were hovering around her waist. For once.

^^oops - were not hovering

Kate may afraid to dress too attractively tonight. She's probably aware there will a known pussy grabber in attendance.

Don't forget the other pussy grabber, r68.

- Sarah (Drinking by the fireplace again - alone)

I wish Fergie would be there, getting shitfaced.

I think the thread asking people to wager on how long the Harkle marriage will last has been deleted. I wonder what was said.

It looks like Kate but it's hard to tell. Why would she and William be in Westminster Abbey AFTER the Trumps visit?

I don’t really care, r71, do u?

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Who knows the MM stans took over and said we are racist because we were joking about trump. Apparently if we say his name we are. So sorry we won’t be able to discuss the state dinner because he’s there.

What the hell are you talking about r75? This thread is full of Dump posts.

Melania’s dress does her no favours. Ivanka’s outfit was horrible. Expectations are so low with these grifters that it’ll be hailed a big success if the trumps manage to avoid projectile vomiting over one of the royals.

No one compares to England when it comes to pageantry.

R73 - Well, since you arsk - I give it five years. That's really all the time she has. She has to have another kid, and establish her "brand" of a blend of the Goop and Amal Clooney ("Glooney"! I said it first! Where's the Patent Office?!) and by then she'll be in her early forties and that window of anyone giving fuck all about her will be closing rapidly. So she gets out by then, or she doesn't get out at all, and sticks it out making a fool of herself and her husband and the BRF for the next 40 years, taking as much of the UK taxpayers' money as she can and pretending she really matters. If she really wants to parlay her bullshit into something outside the BRF, she can't wait till she's much older. If they divorce after that, all she'll get is a settlement that will leave her famous and comfortable and that's it.

So if she wants out, she's got five years or less to get out on the terms she wants, i.e., In Demand World Famous Trendsetting Person. After those five years, she's just Fergie 2.0 outside the BRF. In addition to which, the Cambridges by then will have increased substantially in profile and importance. In five years, Britain will have either a 98 year old Sovereign or a 75 year old King and a new Prince and Princess of Wales.

If Meghan has the sense of an ant, she'll get out whilst still under 45.

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R80 - so does that tan on her face.

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Thank you [R80] - (sorry can't tag for some reason) - you took the words out of my mouth. What is it with that family and orange. And Thank You Britain, for being classy.

Has Melania been using her Orange Hubby's tanning bed?

Trumpy signed the Westminster Abbey book.

Sorry, R73, the Harkle Marriage Prediction post was meant for R71.

R79

I'm feeling sympathetic towards Meghan Markle today. Her situation seems to be a classic case of "Be careful of what you wish for young lady, for you will surely get it." All those years spent networking and social climbing and then she snags a prince! OMG! The wedding! The gowns! It's a fairy tale come to life!

But then the cold reality starts to set in and you realize that you're bored out of your mind. You're tired of other people telling you where to go, how to act, and how to dress, plus having to keep quiet about political issues you care about sucks. The kids are cute but your husband is dumb and boring and cheats on you to boot. Who wants to put up with that? If it were a friend of mine in that situation I would support her leaving.

No I don't think she will put up with all that for long - five years max would be my guess.

Jesus, Trump's gotten obese. It's really, really noticeable. Melania's tits are hanging to her naval and she has a huge menopausal pooch. It must drive him crazy he can't trade her in.

Two grifters have been seen at the Palace - Eric and Lara Trump.

[quote] It must drive him crazy he can't trade her in.

He can trade her in as soon as this election season is over.

Just In - Bea and Yuge spotted doing last minute shopping in Mayfair.

[quote]Nothing new. What tiara do you think camilla and Kate will wear

I wish they’d show up in jeans and a t shirt befitting the guest of honor.

That used up whore Lara trump at BP. Gross

Ok, get ready, he's on his way to Buck Palace in the 'copter, so let the tiara battle commence.

Trump claims there are crowds of people out to see him. When in reality, there are very few.

Donald helping Mel with "adjustments."

Ahhh man, I'm just having some tea R95, gross, haha.

R88 - Looking at the pics from today I had basically the same thoughts as you. Trump is fat af. Like, even fatter than I thought he was. And yes, Melania is looking decidedly thick around the middle and generally menopausal. She must be aware she's gonna be out on her ass the second it becomes politically feasible for him to hook up with his next 30 y.o. Eastern European.

I bet Cheetolini rages at Melania when he sees photos of her and her stomach pooch is prominent. I doubt she is exempt from his ugly insults.

Melania wearing a white, strapless dress tonight.

R97-I generally have to avoid Trump news because it sends my blood pressure sky rocketing, so I hadn't seen him in awhile. I was shocked at how much he's ballooned. I mean, holy fuck-walking heart attack. Charles looks positively svelte next to him. I was similarly surprised with how awful Melania looks. Her face is tighter than a snare drum, and the body is lumpy as hell. Take a page out of Camilla's handbook and learn to dress to conceal an older woman's bulge.

A wink is Camilla's unconscious cry for help! LOL.

R97 - I would guess that Melania is counting the days to the time she's out on her ass, with a nice divorce settlement, doesn't have to pretend even to like him, let alone love him, and go to all these boring a.f. foreign affairs things, and maybe pay attention that youngest kid, Barron, who I suspect would like to murder his father and has multiple personality issues. Her sigh of relief when he marries the next 30 year old will be heard on Jupiter.

Ivanka's outfit today was awful. 80s tribute fug.

Also yes I agree R102. It's not like anybody believes she ever loved him. I wonder what kind of pre0nup they have, because you KNOW they have one.

Darn. Kate's wearing the Cambridge tiara again. Best not to waste a new tiara on the Dumps, I guess.

Kate is wearing the Lover's Knot tiara.

[102] Agree. I think Melania has wanted out since the Access Hollywood tape came out. She's another who learned "Be careful what you wished for" the hard way.

I need tiara pics!

I am surprised Melania does not watch her weight more. I would stress eat, too, if I was in her position. Marry for money, earn every penny!

It looks like Kate is wearing white from the sneak peak @105

Kate looks so different in R105, she looks like she's had cheek implants or fillers or something. It's not just me is it?

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She looks botoxed and weirdly tight.

R109 I just thought the exact same thing. Do her cheeks look much more plump to you? Fillers and botox maybe?

She looks younger, r109.

- Not Rose

Catherine looks fantastic, as always, with the Big Jewels. Isn't that right, Sparkles.

The camera flashes bounce off Kate's make-up which make her cheeks look plumper. It's an optical illusion. It happens every time they get a snap at her at night.

This “she’s nasty” comment is a PR dream come true for MM and her future US based/humanitarian of the world persona.

She’ll 100% make TTC, even if she is fluffier than she’d like to be. Being camera ready that quickly from today will encourage it to be played up that her absence today was “feminist MM wasn’t going to entertain pig DT.” Rather than just maternity/not necessary for her to attend.

I know most disagree but I fully expect she and Harry to be US based “influencers” within 5 years. As much as it shouldn’t, getting nearly 3 million likes on a photo matters and with what they can make by putting #ad on their posts, they’ll live plenty fat and get the fun celebrity life. Not the boring stuff the BRF goes around doing.

A portion of their 'likes' are paid for, no doubt. They can't be US-based influencers when being royal is their only calling card. Meghan can dream, but it is never going to happen.

Has Kate worn those gorgeous earrings before?

Yes, in 2014.

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Oh dear, r116 you are going to be very surprised, I think. Meghan has barely over 40% popularity rate in the U.S. her magazines don't sell, people are not interested. She and Harry are looked upon as a joke. Her "followers" are bought. She was caught out doing this on her old social media accounts. Hollywood is not interested. Not at her age. The only support she has is from the low rent crowd and hasbeens. That doesn't equate into any influencing at all.

R109, I thought she looked touched by an angel, too.

......and we don't want her back, r121.

CANADA

Anyone that cares for royals isn't going to care that much for someone for married-in, especially as the Cambridge kids get older. Their future is to be as relevant as the Queen's other children, aka nobody really cares beyond a scandal occurring.

The earrings are the Queen Mother's sapphire and diamond fringe earrings. I wish Kate had a sapphire tiara to match.

Think I’m gonna need to see more photos of Kate. That snap of her is Uncanny Valley. The eyebrow is over the top, and everything looks plumped and tight and shiny and weird. She looks like a pink Bambi.

William is seen in this photo.

Second photo @R127 is Prince and Princess Michael of Kent.

Am reserving judgement on Kate until I see more photos (esp. on the facial work speculation - the other poster is right that she often looks weirdly plump-cheeked in pics of her arriving in a car at night). Looks like she's wearing a white gown with a navy sash (I'm sure someone will know what that is).

Kate looks more normal in the second photo. In that first it looked like she went too hard on the fillers.

Meghan generates business.

From Forbes:-

[quote] Expected at the end of this month or early May, the imminent arrival of the royal baby Sussex has unleashed more action at the bookmakers than the birth of any previous royal baby - including the children of Prince William and Kate Middleton. Punters have already bet more than nine million euros speculating on the sex, name and the precise date of birth,

The Sun says 1B boost to the economy.

It's the reflection from the camera flashes. The minute we get a picture of her inside, you lot will be saying she needs to gain five pounds and why does she look so haggard?

Andy back when he was Randy.

That's literally the most attractive I have ever seen Andy look. Wow.

R116 is very perceptive. I thought talk about Meg wanting to be an American politician insane, at first, but no longer. We Yanks will never hear the end of her. As Shakespeare wrote” “Some people have greatness thrust upon them”. We have had mediocrity thrust upon us.

MM is obsessed by Forbes, looking back on her old Tig posts.

Each guest is allowed 18 inches for their place setting.

R136, remember that blog post by the Forbes writer that disappeared?

R137 - is that a lot? For a place setting, I mean? Or not much?

Is that the same Forbes that admitted it wasn't true when they kept putting Trump on the billionaire lists in the 80s?

R136, here’s a link. Posted too quickly.

R139, I don't know, it sounds so crowdy, ha.

Poor Megs and Hazard, not important enough to rate an invite to white tie affair. All those minor royals attending with tiaras.

Prince Michael and Princess Michael both look old and not particularly healthy in my opinion. Especially prince michael of kent.

Harry looked like a sulky bitch in the footage I saw of him today. Shades of Ted Cruz sucking up to Cheetolini after he called Cruz's wife ugly. Not as egregious, but Haz didn't challenge The Obese Orange to a duel and has therefore failed to defend his lady's honour.

Thank you R142. 18 inches sounds like a lot to me, but it could be because my general eating stance is 'hunched over a large bowl, scooping cheesy mac into my face with my hands.'

I hazard a guess that most of the guests would probably prefer to be home with a nice drink and a book.

Melania is a beautiful lady who conducts herself with dignity. She is also a kind person. Have seen her with kids, and the affection is genuine. Try not to find her guilty by association with Dump. And she looks perfect, except for those slutty shoes. I’m puzzled about the protruding tummy, though, because I’ve seen it before. Can’t she wear a girdle or something? Maybe it’s bloat.

*Reads R147.*

*Discreetly swallows a small amount of vomit.*

r146 I understand there was something of a scrum for invites to this event, many people making representations about why they must have an invite. I think those who are there want to be there.

Harry is getting ripped apart in the DM comments.

R147 Melania is guilty by her own actions and those of the people she chooses to associate with and whose actions she consistently defends.

R146 - Honestly if I was on the guest list I would be really torn between "fuck this joke of a human and his indescribably vile family" and "the sheer entertainment is gonna be worth it."

20:38 What will everyone be eating?

On the menu, all translated from French, is steamed fillet of halibut to start, complemented by a watercress mousse, asparagus spears and a chervil sauce.

The main course is new season Windsor lamb with herb stuffing, spring vegetables and a port sauce.

Strawberry sable and lemon verbena cream is listed for dessert, and the guests will be offered a selection of assorted fresh fruits to finish up, as well as coffee and petit fours.

Sky News.

Which article R150? Meghan is awful but I think Harry gets too much of a pass and am here for him being ripped apart by DM comments.

R149 I meant the royals at R146. There are probably many others who want to be at the party for networking and entertainment value.

When Harry Met Ivanka article, R154

Thank you R153! That is an almost cartoonishly English menu. LOVE it. Watercress mousse? YAAAS QUEEN (literally).

Also love the naffness of the menus being in French. Yes, yes, I know the historical reasons. Still enjoy the "it's 1988 AND THIS IS FANCY" vibe it gives off tho.

Thanks R156, will have a gander now.

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Oh bollocks, thats not the link.

When Harry met Ivanka! Prince chats with First Daughter at Buckingham Palace (but keeps his distance from Donald after 'nasty' Meghan row)

They all are wearing white! The only dress that has any style to it is Kate's. Melania's not strapless, is perfectly ordinary. You could buy something like it off the rack at Macy's bridal.

Damn, that's a terrible look on Ivanka. And her head looks weirdly tiny.

Melania has zero PERSONALITY!! She stands so stiff like she's facing a firing squad!! and that hat!! so dumb with the wide brim that looks like a UFO landed on it ! and despite all that money she never looks good in her clothes like that too tight dress she's wearing!. She's no JACKIE O or Nancy Reagan!

Trump’s protruding gut in that white vest is disgusting.

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20:44 Here's a look at the state banquet in numbers:

1 hour and 15 minutes - Time it takes to serve the banquet

1 hour and 30 minutes - Time it takes to clear away afterwards

4 - Days taken to lay the table

6 - Glasses at each place setting

170 - Guests

8 - Members of the Trump family at the dinner - Mr Trump, First Lady Melania, IvankaTrump, her husband Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr, Eric Trump and his wife Lara, and Tiffany Trump.

16 - Members of the royal family present

18in - the space for each place setting

23 - Floral displays around the banquet table

75ft - Length of the table

100 - Ivory candles in the ballroom

1020 - Glasses used

£1,400 - Cost of a bottle of Chateau Lafite Rothschild 1900, 1er Cru Classe, Pauillac which is among the drinks being served

4,000 - Pieces in the silver gilt George IV's Grand Service dinner set, including 14 tureens, 20 sauce tureens, 140 dishes, 288 dinner plates, 118 salts, 12 ice pails, 12 mirrored plateaux, 58 dessert stands and centrepieces, and 107 candelabras

Sky News

Ruby tiara for the Queen. Looks heavy.

And the necklace. The Queen empties the vault and decided to wear it all.

R147, one must find Melania guilty by association because she chose to marry Trump, who was awful way before she met him.

She's always been broad in beam and is no longer young, she will of course look poochy in pics in which she's wearing skintight white.

Compared to Camilla and Her Majesty, Melania looks under dressed. And those gloves should be either shorter or longer - right now they bisect her arms perfectly, making her overall proportions look weird.

I’m blinded by QEII’s jewels.

The monarchy serves at the pleasure of Parliament. If Parliament invites scum (politics making strange bedfellows and all that), then you fucking show up. I lean very left a la Markle, but she chose to marry into the BRF. She doesn't get the luxury of her values at the considerable expense of the luxurious privilege she is afforded. Harry could barely conceal his disgust today, which makes him a prat considering his role. I fucking hate Trump and his family with the heat of a thousand burning suns; but to be fair Cheeetoh did not call Meghan nasty, he called her remarks toward him as her behaving nasty toward him. The Hazbean "job" is to support and represent the monarch who may I add is always superbly gracious to her guests. The Sussexes are little better than Trump with the toddler conduct.

R166 - thank you for details. Someone is going to have to make sure Donald doesn't cum in his pants - you know this kind of actual super-statusy display of $$$ and power is exactly his jam. BuckPal is everything he's ever dreamed of for himself.

R173. Not enough gold.

Trump looks grossly obese.

Agreed R172, from another leftie who cannot fucking stand Hazbean.

BuckPal the place I've always been dreaming of?!? Ridiculous! It's a shithole, believe me, a TOTALLY shitholey place. Needs MUCH more gold!

There is tho, isn't there R174? Enough gold, I mean? In some state banquet photos it honestly looks like they're drinking out of gold cups etc. This is Donald Trump's teenage fantasy.

Speaking of, does anyone have details on what they're eating off of? What solid gold cutlery is being made use of?

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This is a pretty good speech by Trump, congrats to his speech writer. Both the Trumps and the Royals are doing their jobs well (around the visit). Harry turned up but seemed petulant. He needs to fuck off if he can't do his job properly.

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Oooh, agreed with the poster saying M's gloves are exactly the wrong length. They are. And her dress look figure-skater-y with that sheer business going on up top. Reminds me of MM's $80000 engagement gown.

I can't stand Trump's guts, but that was a decently written speech. Too bad there was not much passion in his reading of it.

Melania looks good, keep it under understated.

Are those the BURMESE RUBIES. Good god look at that necklace.

It's so weird seeing Trumpy on his best behaviour! This bitch really want to be Klassy like the Fancy Queen.

I think Melania needed some oomph jewels on her ears.

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Understated is best R186. Best not to compete with Cam's zillion carat necklace.

I don't know if I'd call those irregular cut outs on her chest understated.

Haha, interesting, Mnuchin has shagged MM, no?

I usually find Kate's evening dresses boring but she is far and away the best dressed here.

Oh god, poor Kate. He's probably perving on her jewels.

I like Ivanka's hair at the State Dinner.

Agreed R191, even though it was me saying I wanted her in red or purple earlier. I mean, I still do but it looks like they went with the white theme and she's got it the most right.

R190. Yes. I was in the room. It was epic.

Ivanka's head looks tiny because it is tiny in relation to the rest of her body. She looks like a pear.

Charles didn't look well during the speeches.

not that i'm ever going to get an invite but I'd quite fancy being at one of these dinners, just for the glamour and pomp of it all. But I'd find it unbearable tonight with all the second-hand embarrassment, just so cringe-inducing, I couldn't cope.

The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester were there.

Anne seated next to Jared. Yawn. Zzzzz.

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When Melania married him, he was a typical NY liberal who supported gay rights. Dump is a rank opportunitist with no core beliefs. Mel has a kid with him, not so easy to get up and leave.

Did the flowers block Kate's view of the Orange Turd? If so, they did their job.

Melania looked petrified when standing next to Putin. Who knows what she hears behind the scenes. She's just playing her cards until his presidency is over or he dies.

Black makeup and false eyelashes. Yep, she's so classy. It's hard to see her eyes.

Edward is dreaming of being somewhere else. Anywhere else.

r205, in comparison to this? Yeah, she's classy.

William is looking up at the fly on the wall.

Lol, someone in the DM comments noticed Ivanka's tiny head, too. And in reply someone is berating them for not having noticed it before. Ha ha.

R201 - Look at Trump Blue Steelin' it in that shot.

Melania's makeup is as early 2000s tragic as the rest of her style. Those overglossed pink lips and the glamour model fake lashes and dark shadow. She's stuck in a rut.

R202 Donald didn't become a horrible person when he became a Republican.

When Melania met Donald he was on a date with someone else and still married to Marla. He sent his date to the bathroom so he could ask for Melania's number.

His campaign against the Central Park 5 predates their meeting. They dated for 5 years before they married. She knew what she was getting into way before Barron was born.

Trump looks like he's going to fall over. Is it toasting with water?

Leaning in.

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Tiara alert! Sophie nodding off during Trump's speech.

Melania should have gone with a length closer to this one with her gloves. The proportions are much more elegant.

Oh no, Sophie's wearing her tacky wedding tiara.

Camilla practicing her evil eye. I'll give her a B+. She needs more of a furrowed brow.

Camilla is getting her "drop dead" look lots of airing this evening.

They really don't want to be there. Can you tell?

Taking a closer look at Sophie's tiara, I think the top got remodeled. The tiara's top used to look different (very weird, that is).

Kate is wearing the Queen's medal for the first time.

Is it really a good thing if people that want to pretend to be head of states can't even play pretend for a night? Not like the UK is all that mighty by itself economically or with how they've gutted their military over the years.

Poor old queen, she's seen a lot.

I have a sense that royals aren't bringing out their best, but they're not being exceeding obvious about it.

All the pomp and circumstance for that fat fuck and his ugly criminal family. What an abomination.

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I like the details on Camilla's dress.

Catherine decided to go without a necklace. Would have liked to have seen a sapphire accompaniment akin to the rubies on this necklace.

The Queen would rather stare at the rug than look at Agent Orange.

"The bloody things I do for England".

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Christ, Theresa May's outfit is tacky as hell.

Charles does not look well. His face and hands are bright red.

Charles is **always** red, r232.

R232 Now that I'm leaving office.

Camilla's dress is strange. It looks like it has a weird corset thing on the outside of the dress. The colour doesn't help, it looks like a medical device.

And the saggy boob spread (shudder)

Betting numbers has nothing to do with income generation. The birth was a farce so attracted attention. One billion pounds generated by Archies birth? Where? I think you need a reality check. He is 7th in line with uninteresting parents. Prince Michael was 7th in line when he was born. He's now 48th. Alas, this is Archies fate. The real interest lies with the Cambridge children.

Poor William, what the fuck was Teresa May wearing? He must have been choking on his saddle of lamb. Those bingo wings. Cover them up!

[r36] I'm getting an at the racetrack My Fair Lady vibe which would another polite nod to hosting country.

Yes, too tight but will spare you gentle readers the TMI fluctuations ladies over a certain age must face. She obviously was trying to be appropriate which is more than can be said for some.

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Or is it lace? I thought it was fringe around her shoulders etc. when I saw her seated.

R237 Long term that's true, but there is still significant interest in Archie and the Sussexes now. They generate millions of dollars in business (in ad revenue for the press if nothing else).

R190 Who knows, but if she did, Trump knows it. And Harry knows he knows it.

Poor Harry, having to greet the guy who joked about shagging his mother and who all but called his wife a skank. Too funny.

The gown in movement. Alexander McQueen, btw.

R235. Not Camilla’s best look, but that is one fucking huge tiara. I don’t like Melania’s dress. And Kate’s dress is regal, but it’s the same style she wears to every state dinner.

The ladies' dresses.

The runway version of Mel’s Dior gown. She changed it a lot.

The Queen next to a Trump wax figure from Madame Tussaud's.

I agree R245, but let me add that I think Catherine takes her cue from HMTQ and Camilla; because if you think about it, the other two have pretty much worn very similar outfits to this one at every State Banquet, too.

For those who remember: did Princess Beatrice's birth attract as much press attention in the UK as Archie's has? She was actually born higher in the line of succession (fifth) than Archie is.

R247 The original silhouette would have been better. Not great, but better.

The world is not what it was when Prince Michael was born R237.

30 years ago, people faded away if they weren’t consistently front page. Even those who’d been at the peak, winning Oscars, etc. We aren’t in that world now.

Lisa Rinna, Jessica Simpson, Jessica Alba, are all examples of people no one, minus a few die hard fans, should recognize the name of based on historical celebrity data. Wives like Hilaria Baldwin were nothing more than”so and so’s wife,” unless they were also in the business.

All those people have decent fan bases and significant amounts of ad revenue because of the social media world.

It doesn’t matter that Archie and MM are far down the line any more than it matters that Gigi Hadid would probably never have made it as a model 20 years ago (even with family money). What does matter is the reality of today. The reality of today is that she is amassing a brand. AOC tweeting about her today, many are behind the idea of her being the biracial, feminist queen ready to take on the world. She is exactly what wins right now. You may hate it but it’s true.

The vapid social media mass care as much about the Cambridge kids “actually being in line,” as much as they care about the hundreds of nameless runway models with better body/face than Kaia Gerber (but she’s Cindy’s daughter).

The rules aren’t the same as they were.

Kate's dress moves nicely.

I have to disagree about Kate having botox, I don’t see the telltale signs and I’m usually pretty good at spotting these things. Worked for plastic surgery practices mainly in LA while studying for my psych DNP. Kate’s eyebrows are higher in recent years, I’d say for past couple of years but really noticeable now. However it’s classic side effects of her ptosis (lazy eyes) particularly her left eye. It’s more apparent when she’s tired or not wearing makeup.

What happens is when people with slight ptosis get older, starting in their 30s, the eyelids get lower due to the ptosis. So they naturally compensate by raising their eyebrows. Over time the eyebrow become “fixed” in higher than usual position. Only ptosis repair will rejuvenate the eyelids and letting eyebrows come back down to original position.

I don’t see that Kate’s had fillers either, though she could use a conserve amount, if she wants to go this route, using micro droplet approach, 1cc for the whole face which is very conservative use of fillers.

Wait, that's Mnuchin Kate is walking with? Oh, if.....delicious!

That's just it, though, hasn't amassed an organic following, r252. She has (some) paid-for followers and is really only known to most because of her association to the BRF. I agree that those folks that you mentioned would not have garnered attention in the past. However, there is something about each of them that appeals to a certain crowd. Meghan has this to a smaller extent, but it will wither away when she leaves the BRF. She'll be able to grab attention for a while with projects here or there, but it will never be what she dreams. Plus, she treats people like shit AND she doesn't pull in the money that these other people do. That's a recipe for alienating yourself with those who can promote you. That's how Fergie has managed to remain around. She a mess, but she's a likable mess.

Yes, he was seated next to her R255. The SHADE.

I don't think that's fringe on Kate's dress, it looks like bias organza "ruffles." Can't get a clear look.

Those jewels look heavy.

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I agree and disagree R252. I agree with your general take on things, but not that Hazbean is the clear "winner" of whatever competition may or may not be going on with the Cambridges. Neither of these couples is famous the way Kim and Kanye are, for example. Or Random Multi Millionaire Youtube star (James Charles, for another example).

Hazbean has it when it comes to the woke crowd (of which i am probably a member) but even there it's not quite organic. It's the mainstream media, the NYT etc talking about MM and Haz. They don't feel like legit stars when it comes to the young 'uns. Neither do Will and Kate, mind you. I don't foresee any security issues when 10k teens show up at some random Hazbean or Willkat (oh dear, I'm sorry) event in the burbs.

If Meg and Harry were to leave the RF (which I would put money on them not doing, fwiw), I do think they could make quite a lot of money. Less if it was Meg alone, but she could still make bank off her time in the BRF. It would just be bank from interviews with Oprah cringe-y Ted Talks about how her feminism wouldn't allow her to stay in the marriage or some shit. It would be the 35+ crowd, not the kids, who would be interested.

Interesting. There is as yet no post from Sussex Royal about Harry at the Trump lunch and viewing of the Queen's collection. Is Duchess Yoko sending a message by not posting?

R109 - Yes, it's you.

There will be no post on the Sussex royal Insta.

So I don't think Kate has had any facial work done, of any kind. But you know? I kind of wish she would. As the other poster says, just a small amount of filler or a teeny little poke of Botox would help. She's at the age where minor interventions like that can make quite a massive difference. I'm sure the tabloids would have a fucking field day if she actually did any of that, though.

Camilla and Melania - A Tale of Two Ladies.

Ah, Kate is wearing publicly for the first time the blue sash of the Dame Grand Cross of the Victorian Order, with the family orders pinned to it. I like the dress - she's tall and slim enough to wear it without it adding too much flesh, but I'm bemused at all the white the ladies are wearing. Have I missed the significance of this? I also note that Kate is wearing some large sapphire centred and diamond earrings to pick up the royal blue of the sash. Credit where due, she is looking very regal these days.

I'm going to laugh if there's no post on the Sussex IG about today. You know Meghan is back at FrogCott/random Cotswolds bolthole manically reading every word spoken about her today, and LOOOOVING the "brave feminist stands up brute Trump we stan!!!" commentary. I can just see her thinking it's some Big and Important Statement not to post about this. 'kinell

R267 - Someone speculated upthread that it's a red, white and blue theme. Sapphires on Kate, rubies on HM and white dresses. Definitely seems plausible. I have to say I am fucking bored with the white/pale dresses at these events, though.

I love the queen and the royals.

I can’t believe how bad Ivanka looks. She looks like beetle juice with a shrunken head

R252 - The Cambridges are amassing a brand, too, they just aren't trumpeting it. It's called the The Long Game Goes To Us brand. It doesn't matter what the Sussexes "amass" - they are going to fade and become irrelevant. Brands don't last that long these days - unless the brand is encoded in the DNA of who gets to be King and Queen one day.

In this game, it's the only brand that matters. Harry and Meghan are dull, silly, and overestimate the interest they'll generate outside the BRF. You really think in 20 years, when William and Kate are on the way to their coronation, that anyone will remember or care about the Sussex "brand"?

I doubt it. History is on the side of the Cambridges.

Meg just got the biggest boost of her life.

R271-I dunno. I'm not a Hazbean fan, by any stretch, but I wouldn't count Tungsten out. She's made it this far against every imaginable odd, and she does have a fiercely (and bizarrely) devoted fan base. It will be entertaining to see where she ends up.

R224 - They've done it for the Saudis and other far worse fucks. The government makes the decision: the BRF carries it out. That's what they're for. If Downing Street told them Jack the Ripper and Hermann Goering and Pol Pot were coming for a state visit, they'd do the same thing.

It's the downside of an otherwise massively privileged existence.

Meg is eating the door frames , after seeing who Kate was seated with.

R268, aren’t you one of those people banging on incessantly about how Megan is a narc? Yet you haven’t shut up about her once? Now you’re yapping about whether she posts something about an event she wasn’t even at. Do you get the irony? If she’s a narc, she’s feeding at your teet.

R245 - I think that's the Honeycomb Tiara and believe it or not, it's not the biggest one she gets to wear: I think the Delhi Durbar might be bigger.

R272 - Yes, of course she did. It's just going to reverberate through the galaxy.

She's on maternity leave; no one gave a fuck whether she attended the banquet or not and it's a safe bet that she wasn't invited so she had no decision to make. Everyone will forget about it by next week when the Trooping the Colour occurs.

Kate needs to stop dressing like a tryhard debutante and dress like a middle-aged woman. She needs s t y l e.

Can someone sneak this photo under Kate's dessert plate?

And yet, I don’t think I’ve seen Princess Charlene smile once, r278.

More style ideas for "young" Kate.

R275 - Yes, it's quite a coup for Kate sitting next to one of Meghan's former marks that MM allegedly fucked for some sort of advantage or another. I'd be surprised if Kate doesn't know about the rumours. Perhaps she'll playfully lead him on to drop something she can pass on to Megsy.

Kate: "Why, I believe you know my sister-in-law, don't you?"

PM: "Indeed I do. Er, did. Biblically speaking - how is she?"

Kate, merrily: "Oh, out there brand-building!"

PM: "Do give her my regards, will you, and tell her I remember her most fondly?"

Kate, sweetly: "I certainly will do that."

Next morning:

Kate: "Hi, Meghan, Kate here. Guess who I sat next to at the state banquet last night? Oh, you'll never guess. Oh, you saw the photos? Well, such a gentleman - he asked me to pass on his warm regards and to tell you he remembers your, that is, you, most fondly."

Meghan: "I think I hear the baby crying."

What Kate should hve worn.

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Meghan, scrolling through the DM banquet photos, when she hits Kate's pix:

[Incensed, whispers to herself]: FUCK.

Harry: Looking at the pictures of that bastard's banquet? Fuck him. Fuck the lot.

Somehow I imagine these two using a ton of profanity together.

Even if the rumors are untrue, it's still funny to see Kate escorted by the subject of them.

Yes r271, I do think the worldwide public could care more about the Sussex brand and Archie in 20 years. Cambridge’s will make it into the history books, have dinners with world leaders, etc. etc. - but this is a world where most people could name more members of the Kardashian family than Oscar winners from a few months ago.

We are not in a time where seniority or “importance of the work” takes the top spot. We are in the time where news articles are written as teenagers sending texts to each other, a time where a giant fake ass “breaks the internet.”

You can’t call it based on traditional rules or what should be.

I do find these very unlikely little vignettes in which Meghan always comes off worse and the author enjoys her imaginary unhappiness a bit obsessive. There's speculation and bitching, and then there's writing small scenes in which a person delights in imagining the mundane details of another's sadness.

Melania should have left the sailor theme for Mar-a-Lago and worn a **fitted** day suit with stylish blazer.

More grownup style ideas for Kate.

I love that Kate can play with textures, she is in that stage where she can.

La de dah, aren't you sanctimonious, R287

But why would the world care about the Sussex brand in 20 years? What do they bring to the table of interest? They just spout the usual fauxmanitarian bullshit but have no actions to back it up. They're only interesting in their relation to the BRF. Without the BRF, they're just everyday assholes.

R271 - You really don't get it. In this game, who the public loves means absolutely nothing, and it is mostly the non-UK public that loves the Sussexes. The Cambridge kids will increasingly be sucking the air out of the room, the Queen will be dead, Charles will be King, and the public (that is the UK public) will be looking over his shoulder at William and Kate. Harry and Meghan are staggeringly uninteresting people. The only thing remarkable about him is the circumstances of his birth, and the only interesting thing about her is that she hooked him.

You really think the "public" is going to care about the "brand" of two pushing-60 non-entities and their kids? The way they now care about Prince Andrew and his kids?! Please.

Even Diana couldn't make a go of it outside the Golden Circle.

No one is going to give a flying fuck about Meghan Harry and Archie in 20 years. No one.

Kate is 37 years old, r290. Frills and other tired distractions are best left to teenagers. Her "stage" is middle age.

Kate looked very regal...just like a Queen.

The Rotweiller Camilla looked ghastly.

Kate's face looked fine; her dress was boring and too much for her anorexic frame.

Trump is one fat fuck.

The only thing people are going to maybe care about is if little Archie grows up to be a completely public fuckup bringing about an entertaining ending to this Wallis 2.0 situation. I do hope the poor kid has one longterm nanny stick around, but type-A LA moms tend to prefer cycling them out.

No, it's not looking good for Archibald and Mommy Narc.

R286 - The worldwide public doesn't support the British royal family's lifestyle. And the worldwide public will have plenty of other fish to fry between now and then. Harry and Meghan are transparent and boring and if we know anything about the public, it's how fickle they are.

Or Meghan would be in first place in the polls now instead of behind William and Kate and the Queen and Harry.

Hereditary monarchies aren't popularity polls. The Big Money is also going to William and Kate. Just the way the grand flat in Kensington Palace and the country home in Norfolk did whilst Meghan got FrogCott and a couple of rooms in BP and no title for her kids.

If Charles by any chance dies before the Queen, Meghan and Harry will be booted so far to the curb by William they won't know what hit them.

Then they can head to LaCa with the rest of the shallow sleaze-bags.

This is like the Clampetts from the Beverly Hillbillies arriving at Bel Air and being so out of their league.

I agree in 10 years time all novelty will have worn off the Sussex brand and they'll be afterthoughts, like Paris Hilton.

Nobody knows whether the world will care about the Sussexes or not in 10 years. So much can change in 10 years. In 2004 there was no Youtube and by 2014 it had the power to create millionaires. The fun is in watching this play out.

Changing pop culture, tech and society generally favours those of the younger generation in relevance and the older set in terms of founding successful new businesses. and somehow i can't see the Sussex power couple founding the next behemoth

The Sussexes are unlikely to found it, but they may adapt to it. The Kardashian clan isn't just the younger members. Kris Jenner nurtured and supported the building of that empire (and I say that have never watched a show of seen a tweet from any of them).

I don't know what will happen. I find it strange that posters state definitively that they'll be stars or be consigned to the footnotes of pop culture.

Nah, R291, I just find it a bit odd, that's all.

Well, puzzle away then, R305. Tut-tut to your tender heart’s content!

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Thanks to the poster who suggested other fashion options for the attendees. That was fun!

Melanie has zero charm or charisma.

Boy, Melania is another Cinderella gurl, amazing climb. Imagine the folks back in Slovenia, watching this: “America, vat a country!”

Melania can at least say she never wanted any of this, she just played the game and got herself an older billionaire + a kid. Nobody does that and expects to become first lady, future politicians are generally not found in the real estate game.

Melania's earlier day outfit was too tight, emphasized the imbalance of the overly-large breast implants; the hat was ridiculously large; and her heels were too high, a la fuck me shoes. It also was a bad version of a Diana dress. No matter what Melania spends on her clothes, she always looks like the cheap whore that she is.

The evening dress also highlights her mismatched breast implants, with one sagging more than the other; emphasizes her lack of waist; and the gloves make her look as though she is prepared to wash the dishes after the banquet.

I for one think Trump always had the Presidency in his sights, and Melania knew it very well. And behind that demure, mysterious mask, she can be as much of a troll as he Is.

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The Sussex brand is based solely on cult of personality which holds a perishable sell-by-date in the long run. I look at Madonna and I can't think of a more hard scrabble celebrity who has held on to relevance longer than most and even she is fading and becoming a caricature of herself.

The Cambridges have the mantle of an office (which is William's present and future titles) that elevates them above and beyond the vagaries of trends and passing fancies. The stature of their position to the throne is what will carry them well into the future come what may.

Why are Charles's hands burgundy in R307's pic? Has he got some kind of condition?

Why are heeled court shoes described as fuck me shoes on DL? That's so Tumblr, from little old ladies who never get out, Fuck me shoes are the platformed plastic shoes, like lapdancers wear, surely?

Isn’t there ANYWHERE a lady can find gloves that are actually custom-fitted? I think Amal Clooney was another one who was wearing gloves at some event, and it looked like she had borrowed them from a firefighter.

I’m pretty sure that I could tailor a pair of baggy gloves to someone’s wrist and arm. Is it a lost art?

Charles has bad rosacea, and probably a ton of other issues seeing how puffy and red his hands are.

R316, wow, that’s as bad as I’ve ever seen them. I’m guessing a heart condition. That’s poor circulation, I think.

Kate's dress is not quite at the level of Bjork's swan dress, but it is approaching quite near.

Kate and Mnuchin. That HAS to be intentional. It’s wicked.

Teresa May looked like she needed sectioning, tonight. WTF. It's delicious R322, isn't it?

R317 It seems that you spend quite a bit of time on Tumblr, to be able to point out Tumblr motifs here on DL.

Most of us used Tumblr to view porn and since they nipped that in the bud, we haven't been back. We have to console ourselves with Dr Jake's instagram.

Lol R324, I don't really, but I do sneak in. We all need a laugh, don't we?

And TY for the recommendation..

Whoopy, mean R324.

Just be warned that Dr. Jake's undergarments seem to constantly fall off in his pictures.

Rosacea? Charles has few issues but rosacea isn't one of them. Keep guessing though.

- Captain Morgan

R306, okay!

R313 Donald has been talking about running for president since the 1980. Larry King discussed this with the newlyweds in 2005. She supported random immigration spot checks on the street if someone thinks a person "looked funny."

Melania always knew Donald's ambitions because he's always stated them. She has always been clear that she is in it for the money.

Charles' face appears to be covered in multiple tiny spider veins.

Kate's dress sucked. (And I like Kate.)

I don't know who I feel sorrier for.... The Duke of Kent, who had Skeletor Conway on his arm.... or Prince Michael, who caught Sarah BucketaKFC Sanders.

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Catherine's dress had lovely movement and an ethereal quality up close. At worse, I do wish she didn't always play it so safe but that hardly qualifies as a fault.

Melania on the other hand looked somewhat lumpy and misshapen.

Implants are probably made in China, so Melania's tits are simply proof of the trade imbalance. Sad! Bigly!

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r338

I thought you were being harsh about Melania's tits. They are ACTUALLY totally lopsided. Yikes!

I wonder why Melanie insists on wearing tight fitting clothes? It makes her look cheap and sexualized

^

Habit?

Camilla's tits looked pretty good.

R341 That is all Melania knows - looking cheap and sexualized. At least she is wearing clothes these days.

Did Donny Two Scoops get his two scoops tonight?

Let’s say the HazBean marriage goes the distance. Does she get any of these orders and honors before the Queen dies? ie Kate and Camilla got this Dame of the Grand Order on their 8th wedding anniversaries. Is the Queen really going to make it that long for MM? Or will she only earn honors and orders from Charles (or I’m sure worse for her - William)

Because some have the monarch on them, right? What are the chances (if she follows Kate’s timeline) for MM to get any from the Queen?

R314 Anne should give Melania a referral to her foundation garments person. Girl is tucked and smooth.

Sneak peak at Melania's dress for Normandy Invasion commemoration ceremony.

Very much doubt it. I've said it before on the Tendrils thread and I will say it again... IF (big if) the Hazbeans go the distance, it will be from Charles she gets any meritorious awards The Queen won't even let her have access to the Royal Collection let alone something permanent to flaunt. Those orders are in recognition for support of the monarch and firm (not personal aggrandizement) and are dispensed only by favoritism from the monarch; and NOT who seems to be the hardest working in the pages of the press.

Why does the Queen always have a purse? Always.

The Queen uses her purse to send messages to her staff.

OMG! Trump fell asleep while the Queen was giving her speech. Why did I not notice this?

Charles will probably be very good to Meghan, if in part to atone for his sins against Diana.

R353 - Charles already sided with the Queen against the Sussexes' (read: Meghan's) request to set up their own court and an independent PR office. Charles is also a self-entitled twat and I'd bet what he really remembers about Diana is how she made his life hell from the moment the engagment ring was on her finger. He isn't the kind of guy who reproaches himself for any sins except against the environment. If he thinks Meghan is Bad for the Monarchy, he won't hesitate to say NO. It's in connection with his younger son that he'll feel caughte between a rock and a hard place. But Charles will side with the monarchy in the end: he knows perfectly well that dynnasitc considerations come first.

And if, as noted above, Charles is unexpectedly raptured before HM, leaving the Cambridges suddenly teetering on the edge of Majestyhood - Meghan Markle will find out how badly she played her cards. Oh, Harry will get another trust fund from Papa, he'll be bit better off, but nothing like what William will come into.

I would place a substantial wager that in the event Charles were to die before the Queen, Meghan would drag Harry out of the BRF within 12 months. She'd know the gig was up.

Tiffany Trump in that burgundy velvet gown and that hairdo looks as if she's playing Violetta in "La Traviata"and about to burtst in "Sempre Libera".

We've got lop-sided titties (real and fake), a garden party dress at a formal event, more white attire than is acceptable, designer fashions that look like they were bought from Contemporary Casuals and most posts are about Meghan...that didn't even attend the event but our resident Cunt Laureates couldn't help themselves with the usual offering of drug addict mom with a newborn that will have a troubled life. Let me help you hens to it, "Get a sense of humor!" "It's gossip!" "Sunshine Sachs!" You're veering into blatant madness when you wish evil on a newborn. Get help.

On topic: Kate looks alright but she needs to dress her age and status. Ruffles...at her age. Really? She plays it way too safe with her clothing choices and this is the time to shine.

But, looking at how the Americans are dressed, it would have been a wasted effort.

Regarding Kate's face, it is different but its likely one of those freeze serums. They put a tad too much (along with the blush) but she looks nice.

^*a second glance persuades me that it is not velvet. But the effect is the same.

Freeze serum, r356? Do tell!

R350 - Needs it to carry her glasses, a linen handkerchief, a pound note for the collection plate on Sundays, and a pearl-handled .22 in case of a terror attack. In earlier years it possibley held a couple of tampons, as well.

W/W r356.

Sharing some mirth from another thread.

Always loved this photo called. Diana looked really good in earth tones, though you seldom saw her in them.

*photo call.

I don’t know why I feel the need to correct these things, but I do.

I love Kate's McQueen dresses. I loved Alexander and am pleased that Sara Burton has carried on so well. The style is feminine and modern with impeccable fit.

The bitches at celebitchin' are really seething. HA.

Thanks, r365, I don’t think I could sleep tonight without knowing what celebitchy was bitching about!

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Still photos of the royal jewels don't do them justice. Seeing the Queen's sparkling ruby and diamond necklace and tiara live as she spoke was amazing.

Harry's petulant behavior was a top headline of the day. What a spoiled, entitled, virtue-signaling brat. Sadly, I've lost faith that the Queen or Charles will do anything about it. He is family, after all.

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The Duchess of Cambridge's dress was lovely. Catherine looked eminently regal.

Lord forgive me but seeing May's floppy pale skin makes me gag.

The hideous woman needs to cover up as much skin as she can. I nearly vomit everytime she shows those ugly legs of hers and now she insists on showing bare arms and chest as well!?. Yuck.

Her face makes me reconsiders my stance on the burka.

May's hunchback posture makes her look so much worse.

I like a lot of Kate's style choices, but I agree that the McQueen dress is boring.

Kate looked lovely, but I was underwhelmed. I wanted to be dazzled, dammit, and this didn't quite rise to the occasion. Very nice, but in the end forgettable. And I was so hoping for a new tiara. Sigh.

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Mr. Mnuchin doesn't find it boring. More importantly, wonder if they had a chance to talk about their sparkly acquaintance in common?

In 20 years, and quite possibly in 10, William will be on the freaking money. THAT'S status.

I think the poster who discussed Meghan's narrow window for leaving the BRF and establishing her own thing was right. A 60 year old Meghan won't be marketable to anybody. Even a 50 year old Meghan would have a tough go of things. She needs to pop out that second insurance policy and head for the Hollywood Hills pronto. Kardashian culture is youth-obsessed: Nobody would ever have cared about Kris Jenner without her pack of nubile daughters. If that's Meghan's model, she better hope she has girl twins the second time around.

What's the goss being alluded to upthread about Kate being seated next to Mnuchin and it being "delicious"? Spill, bitches! I even googled it and couldn't find anything.

As for you R256, I have to say there is absolutely nothing more tiresome (and I live in a windowless room that I never leave with only a rusty internet connection for company) than 'but what about the CHILDREEEEEN'-ing a gossip thread. And although I dislike Meghan I'm not one of the posters talking about Sunshine Sachs (in fact I'm unsure if this is an actual PR firm that exists irl or another brown velvet lady) or Hazbean drug habits - because I don't think they have them. I do, however, feel the need to reassure you that no one posting here has wished harm on a baby. Untwist your knickers.

Agreed, R378. The only thing I've seen wished for Archie here is that the poor lad end up with at least one decent nanny.

Everything about this evening was somewhat underwhelming as State Banquet's go, except for the rubies darling. Kate's dress wasn't bad per se but nobody stood out. You either had the atrocity of May's frock, the prom dress from Tiffani, and the dress reserved for gingham on Ivanka. The evening gown attire across the board was pretty ho hum but Kate was by far the best dressed.

Kate needs a total makeover. Everything. Fashion, hair, makeup.

R374, I was also hoping for a bigger look and a different tiara/necklace for Kate. She looked beautiful, as always, but she would dazzle even more given the right stylist.

I know some here don't like posts about Celebitchy, but I read there for fun and the best part today for me was two women arguing over which one of them hates Trump more. I hate Trump the mostest. No, I am better than you because I hate him more mostest, and what do I have to do to prove it to you. It's surreal.

Agreed R374. Maybe it was on purpose and their all saving the most fabulous jewels, gowns and hairstyles for a state visit from someone they actually like?

R375 - Fuck. That actually looks like he got it off the rack. I bet he thinks that stubble makes his chinlessness less evident. Forget William - what if Rose Hanbury banged one of the Trump boys? The poor child would be so chinless it would just be born without a lower jaw.

To the poster posting Charlene - whilst I agree with you that I would enjoy seeing some new and more daring looks on Kate, Charlene doesn't really do it for me. Fashion-wise or looks-wise. She's not ugly but those uber wide shoulders are more of a flaw than Kate's long torso or Meghan's squatness, imo.

Kate should look to Princess Charlene for inspiration.

Thanks R382 - now I have to read Celebitchy comments. I hope you feel good about yourself.

Now someone tell me the Mnuchin/Markle gossip or I swear to fuckin' Christ I am going to make 100 posts in a row about brown velvet lady.

Here Kate - What a sophisticated royal looks like.

Kate doesn't have the broad swimmers shoulders Charlene sports. Meghan on the other hand does have linebacker wide shoulders and would do well to follow some of the tips from Charlene, as long as it isn't anything which requires height.

You’d crucify Kate if she wore a strapless gown & you’d say it was age-inappropriate too.

Sorry, R385, for the Celebitchy gossip. To make it up to you, I believe there was a CDAN blind that Meghan and Mnuchin were intimate. I will try to find it for you. Of course, it's rumor and innuendo, but still the fact that Kate was seated next to him was shady given the rumor and innuendo.

Who knows what tiara was Princess Michael wearing?

My penance for bringing Celebitchy over, R385.

If the job of the BRF is to represent the peoples of the British isles and what remains of the empire, the anything more extravagant than this muted state visit would have been a misstep. The UK faces its toughest political challenge since WW2. It needs allies. The government promised the Americans a state visit so they must deliver on that promise. While he enjoys vocal support in some quarters, the majority of the British public do not like the current American president. In an age of austerity, an extremely lavish display would do more harm than good. This is a happy medium IMO. It was opulent without being ostentatious.

People who believe BI are retarded.

It's nothing to do with "broad swimmers shoulders", Kate needs a much more sophisticated style. And lose the frilly A-lines, ribbons and tassles.

Kate works the severe 1940s lines quite well in her daywear. She should consider it for evening, too.

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I like the color of Tiffany's gown, but the hair does her no favors.

Lara looks like the only normal-looking one in that bunch

Poor, poor Tiffany.

Why so bothered, R393? Nobody said they believed the BI. It is what it is.

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I think Tiffany is on prednisone.

Mnuchin married that gauche blonde actress. Why wasn’t she there? I’m sure she didn’t want to run into any former johns, just like Meghan.

Chief amongst Theresa May's delusions, second only to they'll pass my Brexit deal if I just keep trying, is the notion she is hot and needs to show off her toned arms.

Welp, I'm not British, but if I were, I would be proud of HM's conduct today.

Why are the fraus here so fucking fixated on the 'Cambridge kids'? Charlotte has the exact same family position as Harry, just a generation down, and Louis is one below that. They are spares whose positions will be usurped by George's kids.

Just like people are still interested in the York girls, the interest in Meghan and Harry's biracial kid won't wane any time soon. She has definitely captured the imagination of the under 40 demographic, hence all these IGs with her name or Archie's on that you keep linking to.

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Yep, always bout this time this one shows up^^^^. Like clockwork.

R408, thanks for reminding me! How could I forget you?

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Funny R409, if you look at my posting history, I have never mentioned either of those two references you are accusing me of, ever. You are on your own agenda and it doesn't contribute to any fun or wit on the thread.

But you go on... as you will, deranged.

I believe both Tiffany and Trump are requesting two scoops these days.

Looks like Melania was going for a modern look rather than trying to compete with the royals' toy soldier pomp. Not a bad idea, but that dress is ugly and doesn't go at all with the gloves. She also needs to rethink her uniform of skintight + stilettos.

Why the fuck are those Trump maggots there: Junior, Eric and wife and Tiffany. They do not work for the administration and have no connection to the U.S. government.

Kate was the best dressed. Her tall (rather too) skinny frame carries those ruffle-fringes very well.

Ok, now you bitches made me go to Celebitchy...hadn't been there in years but what a nest of vipers!! These fraus are supposed to be woke and feminist-y?? They are like the Real Housewives of Wokesville. Their blind hero worship of some celebs is just bizarre. They worship Angelina, hate Aniston, they think Meghan is the second coming of Diana and Mother Theresa combines but Kate is the anti christ! Makes no sense. Kate is sweet but so fucking beige..how can anyone hate her?? Better yet, why do fraus hate other fraus so passionately, under the guise of "let's support each other'?

Posting this purely to trigger the Welp Troll. She hates this man even more than she hates Meghan Markle as he put an end to Larry content by breaking up her favourite band, One Direction.

Oh well you don’t know that woman are vipers too each other . Welcome to the worl of women !

Another Troll:

Meghan is Buying all her Instagram Likes

All 3m of them!

Trump does seem to have genuine respect for the Queen, so at least he got that right.

R417- I take your point but shouldn't 'woke' women do a better job of hiding their pettiness?

I'm gouging out my eyes even as I type this, but I like that blue shirtwaist dress on Ivanka. And her dingy dog hair isn't hanging down like a dirty curtain, so that's a plus.

Why are the female royals wearing those fugtastic blue sashes? They ruin all the dresses.

I didn't realize that was Tiffany Trump. Good grief she's porked up.

And from another leftie R172 who is getting slightly sick of the Trump praise on some other forums.

Not a Trump fan either bit he has better manors now than last year when he was stomping around like an elephant in a porcelain shop .

Sorry must be “manners “

Pity Markle couldn't be there to reminisce with Mnuchin about all their mutual munchin'. Maybe there's a moment today, hope so kitten.

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Aside from the Queen's bling, I found the State Banquet fashion choices boring and safe. At least Teresa May was the only horrible faux pax. Get a better bra, woman.

The dresses were supposed to be safe. Good job.

Well, they certainly succeeded, R432. Most underwhelming.

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And Charles, much to his credit, takes it all in stride, R434. Great laugh on Charles, btw.

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After today it is clear why Harry has not influenced his wife to conform to the norms of the family business. He acted like a sulky child himself. They are utterly unsuitable. Let them support themselves or let Charles do it but they both need to be cut loose. After all that has gone on for him to act that way was simply more of their brand building. Let them get on with it full time as private citizens.

Who still thinks she will be at Trooping? I am going with no.

I'm also going with a no R437. Asides from that, the comments section on every online article today are absolutely ripping Harry to shreds. Not just the DM, but I've never seen the Express nor the Sun comments so fast and active. Not dipped into the more highbrow articles yet, the ones that allow comments, anyway. But to hear the scathing attacks from the general public is astonishing, but deserved. If his elderly grandmother can act with diplomacy, grace and etiquette.......and he cannot......it's time for him and his wife to go.

To add to that, he is supposed to represent the monarchy, not his wife.

Bad mannered and Rude.

Just like his wife.

R438, you said it very well. Sometimes in life we are forced to do things we don’t want to do.

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Wow. THAT'S a ghastly outfit on Melania, R442.

They're not really hooker shoes, but they are extremely impractical for daytime on London's cobbled streets.

Well when you are a hoe you have to hoe R443 😂

What a child Harry is. His mother’s worst qualities. He’s in the wrong job.

Anyway, enough with the Trumps. On to the Trooping, what what tally ho

A "hoe" is a tool for digging. A "ho" is the Slovenian cocksucking First Lady.

That's where we will see the colours on display, and HATS. Bring on the hats! #Trooping

R436, Kellyanne and Sanders were there? In addition to the Trump spawn? God, what a shit show.

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In that DM article there is a frivolous little throwaway comment about having sex with Harvey Weinstein. Where did that come from, lol, oh DM, the SHADE.

^^^ Ignores

Dm comment: “Tiffany wore her 'just in case the baby comes out' dress.”

Why ignore?

Thanks to whomever posted all the pics of Charlene of Monaco. She does wear a lot of great clothes and she wears them well. There's probably a big difference, though, between representing Monaco and representing the UK

Also, Kate doesn't seem to be into fashion or style. She's more the rich, sporty, sportswear conservative type. I don't think we can ever expect her to be a style icon. I think she looked fine on this night, even with the ruffles. I guess a case could be made that ruffles are on trend right now, but on her they do just look princessy and not fashion forward.

Ivanka is wearing a dress by a British designer? Unlike she who lives off the British taxpayer?!

When you are shown up by the Trump family, welp, that is saying something.

Ivanka also looks acquainted with a hairbrush.

Lucky for her she was ghosted by Me-Gain. All about the brand building. Funny how Chelsea CLINTON valued and maintained their relationship. MeMe is a mean girl and does not understand that the public sees right through her. The poor UK taxpayers, the TRUE victims.

I confess, I am mystified.

What is not pale, male and stale about DIM?

I know she's on maternity leave for six months, but she's making things a lot worse by hiding out 24/7. She couldn't even show up to this fucking State banquet? And behaved like a lady in spite of the fact that the guest of honor made a typically stupid, misguided remark about her? THAT is what she SHOULD have done; it would have put him in his place and shut everyone's mouth right up, but she doesn't have that kind of insight because, honey, she's no lady. AND I have honestly NEVER seen somebody fuck EVERYTHING up so badly. Everything she does is wrong.

The focus yesterday was on D Day and representing the monarchy. Harry has made his disdain for the older generation clear in poorly chosen remarks, he continued to sulkily express his contempt for the Firm and its role yesterday. One can only imagine that he has been spoken to and THIS behavior was the response?

Andrew was the spare and behaved appropriately. They are trained for this all their lives. Harry and his resentment should fuck off. Right off the taxpayer dime, in fact.

They need to be cut loose. Trying to bring him back in the fold recently has not had the desired effect. More and more I do believe that the Rose story was planted by MeMe and her PR as deflection. Is it true that Rose and her husband were said to attend the dinner last night? PR is powerful, this is who Harry is and always has been. William lost his mother as well, but still managed to grow up.

I don’t think they wanted her at the state banquet or PH . I don’t think they attended last year .

Yeah, well, they should have told her sulky, clueless husband not to bother, either. Fuck, how embarrassing for the Queen.

Yes, doubt they wanted MM there. After her behavior at the Investiture ceremony they are probably afraid of what attention-seeking behavior she'll pull.

Why haven't the Cambridges introduced their children to the Trumps? And they haven't escorted them to any events.

Because they're too young.

I am fairly confident that her presence was not welcome, R459.

Trade considerations are too important to allow such a loose cannon to be present. After the Investature they would have to be clinically insane to give her that sort of platform during a state visit.

She sent dickless wonder in her place to act out though. Surely Lord Doom took note. How is Harry going to maintain that expense wife and his polo ponies on his own income?

GEORGE, CHARLOTTE AND LOUIS manage to behave and they are children, unlike Duch and Dim who are petulant children in adult bodies. Her cruelty to a toddler before she even had a ring on it shows the absolute contempt she has for the BRF as individuals and for the institution. It is how she has treated everyone in her life, after all, except Doria. Her time may still come.

Charles looks quite unwell. If William becomes king sooner rather than later, I hope he protects the institution and his family from the antics of the brand builders.

expensive

we really need an edit button

R465 They weren't too young to meet the Obamas. And the Cambridges had time to do a function with the Chinese president.

The whole “nasty” thing is mostly the fault of the reporter who kept agitating on the subject of Meghan. Really not a serious question to be asking any President. One can excuse both her pre-marriage remarks and Trump’s sly use of the word “nasty.” The reporter was a prick to stir the pot that way on the eve of a state visit. Frivolous.

Hey, but good fodder for us here in the peanut gallery!

Sparkles wasn't invited? Aww she should've been seated next to her dear friend Steve Mnuchin. Girl knows everybody in Hollywood, and so she missed the op to firther build her awesome feminist hrand.

The one that is all about advancing by climbing on white dick, R470, lol? Rach and Dim need to get the old heave ho. Sooner rather than later.

Has there been any IG activity or have they locked it down during the visit?

Not a word on the account R471

Harkles are boycotting this State visit.. sob

Big day June 8th ' TOC and Chatsworth Flower Show, both streaming on Britbox. Must see millinery.

The BRF are doing the bare minimum for this visit. The Americans have demanded it as a condition of doing a deal. The government has agreed and the BRF are basically being fuck up with the ass with a broom. It's not a happy occasion. This is not the state function for a debut. That doesn't serve Meghan or the BRF. The Cambridges and the Sussexes are the most popular royals in the US and they have limited their contact with the Trumps. It would have been a coup for Ivanka or Donald to be photographed with William or Kate. The BRF have managed to limit their contact.

I have no idea what any of that means, R474. But it sounds interesting.

This is such a good read, if you've got a few spare minutes.

Enjoy.

Rose Cholmondeley was at the state banquet. Her and Theresa May shared their fashion choices. TOO MUCH SKIN.

On the night, the Marchioness of Cholmondely was sat between Jeremy Fleming and Professor Ralph Speth while her husband sat next to the Duchess of Gloucester.

From Hello.

That Rose is not a good-looking woman.

[quote] That Rose is not a good-looking woman.

William and his dad have a lot in common

R479 wasn't she a model when she was younger? Some people must like her looks.

Camilla is better-looking than Rose.

No tiara for Rose?

[quote] Kellyanne and Sanders were there? In addition to the Trump spawn? God, what a shit show

It was like an entire clan of gypsies descended on the palace. Gypsies and the trumps have one thing in common - GRIFTING

Yeah, well. Winnie Harlow is a model, too.

R473 - Actually, Harry didn't boycott anything. He attended the luncheon for the Trumps earlier in the day and accompanied them as the Queen showed them the BP art collection (which by the way is open to the public, or used to be, at certain times). Meghan wasn't invited - she's on maternity leave and I don't doubt was left off the guest list deliberately. And you will note that when the Dutch royals came to visit, Meghan and Harry were suddenly sent off on a fast three-day, previously unannounced trip to Morocco "at the government's request". Harry is the sixth in line. This banquet was kept to top tier royals only to minimise the pomp.

The Queen has shaken hands with worse than Trump, and she does what the governnment tells her to when a majjor economic and military ally comes to visiit. She's shaken hands and put out the good silver and plate for worse than Trump in her day. I didn't notice protesters and ballons when the Saudi royals came to visit. After all, they're only starving a few million kids to death in Yemen these last few years, and they carry out about 200 executions each year - by the sword.

Hasn't stopped Charles from becoming quite matey with a couple of members of the Saudi royal family, although these days he's quieter about it. You have to factor in £60bn in arms sales to the Kingdom.

As for why Trump's kids were there when they have no connection to the US government - well, none of the Queen's kids have any connection to the UK government, either (at least, they aren't supposed to, although Charles has attempted to break that rule).

Forget it Jake: it's Chinatown.

This is the way the thing works. Arms deals and trade deals rule, and contitutional monarchs do whatever the government tells them to. Credit where due: the BRF handled this with grace.

The really notable absence wasn't Harry, but William. Kate took one for the team last night.

William was in the car arriving with Kate.

Andrew can't stay away from his buddy Trump.

Actually, the Harkles boycotted insta which is what we were talking about. sob

Rose reminds me of Gilligan.

Melania's lopsided boob job.

You and I sitting together at a party could have an awesome time, R490.

William escorted Teresa May.

Lucia Hunt looked lovely.

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Andrew escorted Dame Vivien Hunt.

William with old Porridge Arms.

It is so obvious that Tiffany is pregnant. DM had pics of her billionaire bf kissing her baby belly on the yacht. As discussed above, Tiff learned from Ma that a child is necessary to seal the deal. Tiff is set up for the next 21 years with hefty child support payments.

[quote] none of the Queen's kids have any connection to the UK government, either

You my want to read up on working royals. The PoW, Andrew, Anne, The Wessexes, The Cambridges and the Sussexes all technically work for the government in some measure. Those in the line of succession can be called upon to act on behalf of the queen from time to time. That means they are connected to the government (some full-time, some part-time).

R469 I suppose that you did not follow the 2016 campaign closely. tRUMP was flustered during a debate with HRC and called her - get this - "nasty".

Meghan is in good company.

WHAT is going on with Mnuchin’s face in the still at r495? That looks like the puckering around an implant.

I have the Trump-Theresa May joint press conference on in the background, and am reminded what this is all about: Trade. Money. Lots and lots of it. It's serious business, and this is why someone like Harry needed to buck up, rise up, slap a fake smile on his face, and do his duty.

R471 Lady Louise Linton-Mnuchin puts Meghan to shame with her gold digging antics.

Thanks Scotland for foisting this creature upon us.

I find Mrs. Mnuchin quite entertaining!

Why wasn't;t Lady Louise Leather Gloves not there? She's Scottish. I would have thought she'd shove Sarah Sanders out of the way to be at a banquet at BP.

Maybe it’s just my search engine, but it’s impossible to get photos of Tiffany at the dinner last night. You can get her in a group photo, but no one’s actually publishing a photo of her fatness.

Do you suppose they’re trying to downplay her appearance?

R505, right? Perhaps, like Meghan, she was afraid to run into former clients.

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Trump and May are taking press questions now. First one is about Sadiq Khan. Do any of them dare ask about Meghan? As much as I enjoy this shitshow, I certainly hope not. That would be disgraceful.

Trump picked the Sun for an interview because he wanted to make the "nasty" comment. Denying he said it helped to keep the story going.

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We may be able to see Louise's mons pubis in that dress.

The Queen's cousin Princess Alexandra with former Foreign Minister William Hague.

Foreign Minister William Hague - Angelina Jolie's imaginary fuck buddy.

She thought this closet case would help her become a MP.

Harry showed up dressed appropriately, which is all the handlers could control. Him acting sulky and pulling faces, in light of the trade importance and in light of all that has gone on in the past year, is unacceptable. His insulting comments re: the greatest generation and behavior at an event literally celebrating D Day is beyond the pale.

His resentment of his family and wish to both take advantage of his privilege whilst seeming superior and brand building is not working out well. The taxpayers need to put their foot down. Let him pay for his wife and ponies himself. He has cut off friends and alienated family and it is just a matter of time until she ghosts him. God help that poor baby.

R515 Indeed....and that insulting wink that the Duchess of Cornwall made - the Queen should put her foot down on this adultress's antics.

R516, that wink was to the cameraman who'd dropped / placed a piece of equipment on the floor, in their footpath.

Charles spotted the piece of equipment and guffawed " it looks like an ice cream ".

We have an apologist for the adulteress here! The Queen should demand the adulteress wear a scarlet letter at every public event.

The video of Trump ordering around Charles in Clarence House is a hoot. I love how for a moment Charles is taken aback and then laughs at the sheer absurdity of it.

It probably never happened this way but I'm going to caption this photo:

Baby Harry being chastised for his sullen demeanor.

Lol R519. Must admit, I do love her.

This is the appropriate garb for Camilla.

Old men covered in medals they never earned is so tacky.

Not BRF-related but I did check out the Tiffany yacht pics and she certainly looks pregnant. I expect that Trump will handle this with all the grace and dignity that Sarah Palin did when her daughter found herself in the family way.

Kate's jewels.

Kate's medals.

[quote] His insulting comments re: the greatest generation

R515 What are you talking about?

Indeed, [R524]. They always remind me of Buster Bluth. The seal is for marksmanship and the gorilla is for sand racing.

Very telling. Sussex Royal has no mention of Harry's appearance yesterday at the luncheon and collection viewing. Could they rise above it all and be better? No, they're as petty as Trump is. No class.

R525 Ah, but you forget...Tiffany was alive and kicking in Marla's uterus when tRump arranged their shotgun wedding.

tRump will be greatly relieved that his daughter has lined up financial support for the next 21 years.

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Trump took home some leftovers from the dinner.

William with a beard. It makes his long face less so.

Other European royals have worn similar ruffled dresses.

Crikey, he nearly ran into Meg, last night.

R530 Harry and especially Meghan clearly employ these Diana-esque tactics in terms of media messaging. Fair enough I guess. Can you imagine Diana on social media? Oh God.

R534 William would look great, and very kingly, with a neat little beard now.

Kate's dress ruffles were tacked on to look like a cheap duster.

I agree about William and a beard. Keep the balding hair very short, grow a beard, whiten teeth, keep buff: He'd be a pretty hot middle aged King.

Kate looked pisitively regal. I loved the diamond fringe on the sapphire earrings. Very nice.

For a completely **different** look, Kate has this other duster, errr ruffled dress.

What I do like about Kate is, she manages to be acceptably fashionable without seeming to care *too* much about fashion.

This would be a very flattering look for William as he prepares to ascend the throne.

I agree with everyone on William sporting a beard. Windsor men look better with them. He'd be hot as hell.

R512, Louise has done a lot of face tuning (IG or real life?) since her last go-round as a fun meme.

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Kate's dress definitely had feather duster vibes, but I thought it was the best of a bad lot.

Then I remembered to check out Sophie Wessex and I hoped she might save the day, but alas she wore a nondescript grecian gown.

Kate's dress did not look like a feather duster. It was more akin to a car wash brush. But, yes, it was the best of an underwhelming lot.

[quote] Kate's dress did not look like a feather duster. It was more akin to a car wash brush.

ROFL

Yes, beards on the Windsor men do help to cover those Windsor flaws. Case in point: bearded Prince Michael vs non-bearded Duke of Kent.

R530, I expect it's because they don't want to be connected with/be seen to be celebrating Trump on social media, which is fair enough. Harry had to go as part of his job, but they don't have to celebrate it on their own social media.

Yes, it is a pity that the Duchess of Wessex chose not to spice things up at the banquet and wear a more daring dress.

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R553 could have come straight from Edward's secret dress-up box.

Fucking idiot. She probably told him to show disapproval. She know's how to play to camera. And now anyone who WAS on his side.....has gone.

If they keep on publicly supporting Harry because ~strong family unit~ while he's being dropped across the board for his actions...granny is dumber than I thought

R556 Two parts to Harry's pique. One, personal - milady's honor. Two, political - screw the orange cheeto etc.

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The Windsors are giving Harry and Meghan plenty of rope to hang themselves with. Thousand-year-old institutions excel at playing the long game. People who try to 'shake things up' inevitably end up crushed under the wheels of all that history. See also: Duke of Windsor and Diana, Princess of Wales.

The more Harry and Meghan try to build their own separate 'woke' brand, the more they are going to alienate the British public. Which they might not care about, as they see themselves making a splash on the world stage. But without the backing of the BRF and the glow of titles, estates, and honors, what are they? A barely literate playboy and an aging grifter actress. Not very Instagrammable.

The texture of Kate's dress reminds me of a Swiffer duster. I like Kate, but that dress is a big thumbs down.

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The more I see Kate's dress, the more I like it. It looks better close up than far away. I like it better than the other two she has worn in the past.

I'm not especially besotted by Kate's ruffles either, but what that dress certainly achieves is to highlight the sash. It trumpets her status, both as William's wife and as a favourite of the Queen. Anything less fitted in the bodice or fuller in the hips would spoil the line of the sash. You talk about Meghan's branding but nobody has mentioned this.

If she wanted to be a style icon, she has all of Diana's photographs (and presumably some of Diana's advisers, if she wanted them) to inspire her; she doesn't need Charlene. Most of Diana's looks from the 90s would still fly very well now. But she's a favourite of the Queen because she DOESN'T go to lengths to draw attention to herself. She teams with William instead of trying to outshine him, she always dresses appropriately for the occasion and she always looks well groomed. If anything, her look says, "A queen doesn't need to draw attention to herself; it just comes."

I love that Kate is glittering with the RVO and HM’s personal family order. Two objects that ME! will never receive in this reign, she’s destined to be the next Princess Michael: unadorned, unloved, laughable.

R555 Indeed, with his height and nice legs, Prince Edward could certainly carry off this look.

Kate is so skeletal, nothing will look that great on her at this point. Her chest looks concave.

[QUOTE] she doesn't need Charlene.

Who? Charlene of Monaco?

All the young Royals gesticulate. I prefer the power move of hands clasped behind back, speaking directly and forcefully.

Funny, I don’t know why I think of her with regard to this, but Diana never gesticulated.

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Crikey, Tiffany, I would have stayed at home!

R564 Queen Elizabeth I begs to differ.

R569, it does indeed look as if there is some sort of hard construction underneath the dress designed to keep the fabric close to her upper torso and then extending away from the rest of her body. Almost like it's been designed to conceal a pregnancy bump....

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I think Queens are meant to be noticed and worshipped.

I think great-...I mean, Her Majesty, is a brick, the way she deals with all these people, but surely this occasion was the right one for me to make my debut.

I believe Mr Trump and I could have talked using the same vocabulary (I would have steered away from French, bien sur), I also think my Aunt of Sussex can be pretty nasty, we'd both have enjoyed a nap after dinner, and I'd have been delighted to join him in a hamburger instead of the Windsor lamb. Diplomacy accomplished!

Diana looked fabulous but that in part drew attention away from Charles, causing no small problem. Catherine seems to know how to compliment her husband rather than diminish him.

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Tiff’s makeup at R569 is scary. Must be using the same stylist who does the Huckabeast.

Tiff’s dress is pretty, though.

R487 - I did not see a single photo of William anywhere. If he was there, I stand corrected, but if so, his image somehow eluded me. I do see also that Sophie Wessex was there - the work horses of the family.

R576 is correct - Kate's job is not to astound, but to complement and look correct. And as with many other gowns she wears, when you see the video as opposed to the still photos, you get quite another impression as the dress moves - the quality of the materials and the soft movement gets lost in still photos. I found this to be true of some gowns of Diana's that I hadn't cared for until I saw how the dress moved on her in videos.

Kate's understanding of how NOT to outshine her husband is a lesson Meghan will never learn, despite the fact that everything she has and any interest in her stems from him.

Here is the new thread when this one reaches 600 posts or so.

"In part", R576? Diana totally eclipsed Charles from the first, and once she ceased to be a novelty she upped her style level accordingly to maintain that status. When they split, she upped it another few notches. Otherwise, I agree with you.

R576 Very true. We all enjoyed Diana’s dramatic outfits at the time. Today we’d be roasting her for being an attention seeker.

We needed some color last night.

Here we go, R580.

Well, some royal ladies added a bit of color.

Oh to be a fly on the wall.

I was a little disappointed not to see the men in their pantaloons, stockings and garters, last night. It always tickles me.

The Queen on the Royal Train with baby Prince Edward.

R499 - They are not connected to the government in any way EXCEPT at the government's command. They are not members of the government any more than the Trump kids are members of the Trump Administration. That's the whole point of separating the Head of Government from the Head of State. The government tells the Sovereign to host a particularly important Head of State and/or Head of Government (in America's case, they are the same person). Then the Queen sits down with advisors to plan it out, and invites whichever members of her family she thinks are appropriate. The government then approves the guest list.

It works both ways. No one really believes the government suddenly desperately needed the sixth in line and his very pregnant wife in Morocco for three days in February, either. The trip was rather baldly hastily put together to keep Meghan from accepting an invitation to the Oscars, about which rumours had been swirling for some time. The BRF probably asked the government to put in the request and booted her arse out of way on the precise weekend the Oscars took place.

When Diana was growing her hair out, she used combs to keep the sides off her face. I didn't like this hairstyle.

I once attended a talk by Diana’s onetime hairdresser, whose name I can’t recall. Very nice gentleman. Anyway he talked about that longer style, and how Charles walked in one day and cracked to Diana, “I say, you look like Vera Lynn.”

The Queen's Burmese Ruby Tiara is to guard from illness and evil. An appropriate choice in Trump's presence.

Oh and the Vera Lynn comment sounded more affectionate than not. It’s actually kind of funny.

Larry the Downing Street cat is breaching security, again.

Did Charles The Red start drinking BEFORE the state dinner?

Diana looked fantastic with short hair. It highlighted her huge eyes and distinctive profile. She was never as pretty with long hair, as her childhood pictures attest.

A huge glob of bird shit has apparently attached itself to Ivanka's head.

Both Tiffany and Ivanka would benefit from doing something with all that lank Barbie doll hair. The parted in the middle, pin-straight look only flatters truly beautiful women under the age of 25.

Melania The Evil Eyed Raven.

The Trump clan's desperate attempts to emulate the classic, conservative BRF style are hilarious.

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