Chalamet and Friends Part 51

It's interesting that the few people who still defend Armie's fake-ass marriage and liar Liz these days are Timmy fans who also hate any insinuation that Timmy and Armie may be fucking. Pretty telling.

so true R1. besides, speculating is fun and this is a gossip site. just block all those liz lovers and be done with it.

Timmy and Armie look fantastic together that’s why the movie was a hit. But some of these Charmies really cannot tell the difference between reality and fantasy anymore. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if both Timmy and Armie are bi. Armie even admitted to boners when he kissed Leonardo DiCaprio but I just don’t see any evidence for him and Timmy, least of all on these threads!

What I find interesting, and even sadder, is how some people in these strands claim that this marriage is "false" as if they really knew this couple personally. And the saddest thing is that they would be delighted if this really happened, ignoring that this marriage has two small children. I think that Armie has respect, not for his wife, but for the mother of his children. I think he would already be divorced if he did not want her and at the moment that is not happening.

It's the same poster, the Harry/Selena/Maika/Kaitlyn Denver troll. From different accounts, now pretending to be another poster with broken English. Please stop entertaining her. For example, Block R3 R4 see she was posting as a Lilothee (Timmy and Lily would probably have stunning children! She should totally Kyle Jenner him and get prego!/Timmy and Lrd will end up together..they can’t escape romance when they do press for The King.)/Liz supporter in part 50. With multiple accounts she can post day and night because people used to block her one account

I frankly do not know, I do not know Armie, but I do not see him as cold, or as twisted to cheat on his wife in such a cruel way. He has to be a very bad person to do that and also publicly. In addition, he may have many connections, but if it were so twisted his prestige would remain on the ground.

R5Oh, please shut up, enough is enough. Stop inventing trolls where there are none.

Why is the Queen Liz&Armie's Marriage Defense Squad suddenly trying to police this thread? Oh, wait. With Armie and Timmy both in Europe and Liz by herself losing it back home I'm not surprised y'all are panicking. Newsflash, they're the ones setting tongues wagging with their behavior and this is a gossip site. People will talk, no one needs your permission.

R8 Have you seen pictures of Armie and Tim together? Oh, sorry, unicorns again.

R5 is a troll who is trying to censor free expression by having anyone who’s not a Charmie and doesn’t agree with her blocked! She’s very triggered by the idea that her Charmie fantasy could be a delusion..do not expect anything real from her! Biggest bully here!

r5 the Spanish village idiot is real, I think. So they're two at least. Imma block this dumbass cause zZZzzZZzz, too much stupidity even for a troll.

R5 when was the last time you left your house? You're too triggered by the events on this thread. Please stop watching cmbyn on repeat immediately!

R8 "the Queen Liz&Armie's Marriage Defense Squad" is just one troll . She used to have a single account now she has 3. It was mental when she had one account with 100 comments in every thread, now she's diversified to look more sane. But people keep taking the bait since there's little content right now. Well, have fun engaging with her, she's free 24/7.

There's our Miss Spain, who tweets the exact same musings she posts here, and there's our selena/lily/etc troll whose constantly baiting and trying very hard to sound sane but has been posting shit that's dumber than the charmie stuff.

Just here waiting for some Rebecca set photos. I think filming starts today!!!

yay!

I think the Selena/Harry/LRD troll is a small example of some Timmy fans, especially the tween and teen ones, who want him to be with someone they can get excited about, someone young and really famous and popular like Selena and Harry. They don’t want Timmy with Armie because, lbr, Armie is boring and old to most of them and they cannot relate to anything Timmy might see in him. Defending Armie’s marriage is just the most convenient thing that can be used as to why they aren’t or can’t be together, since there’s honestly not much else that can be used as an argument. No one actually gaf about their marriage except to bring it up against Charmie.

idk who's worse. Timmy's fans that hate on Armie/Charmie who think their opinions matter in the least or the couple of deranged Charmies shitting on Armie and being all offended he's not divorcing Liz and prancing around holding hands with IT boy Timmy like a gay cheating scandal in a 9 year marriage with 2 kids is nothing in Hollywood. Not sure which one's dumber and more delusional.

Comparisons...

R19 Oh dear.

Why are people so invested in Charmie being real?

Why do people get invested in celebrities in general or sports or any number of things that have no bearing on their real lives? Sometimes you just feel strongly about something and there’s no real rationale behind it. It just is.

I have a legit question. Is it normal to wear different colored shoes? Is that a trend somewhere? I am really baffled.

r8 Armie and Tim are in Eu mean nothing. There're no evidence they're together They live their seperate lives, you freak !

Nevermind. I guess it's a trend.

OMG! Armie pays Florence and the betas to entertain Liz when he's out, but Nick's and Ashton's joy is not convincing hahaha

Only tweens who fetishize gay couples and watch gay porn to flick their beans are invested in Charmie.

R20 Oh dear, what?!

R27 the hardcore charmies the ones that are delusional are definitely tweens watching to much gay porn. They also have no understanding of grown up relationships. To them it just makes sense that Armie will be like fuck my work responsibilities fuck my family responsibilities, I have to go and fuck Timmy now..I’m so into him since that movie 3 years ago..lol

Funny

Stop being obtuse R29. In the same way straight men have been fascinated by lesbians and lesbian relationships for centuries; women whether young, old or middle aged are doing the exact same thing. Nothing to get your knickers in a twist about....

29 is a troll, just block them

Stylothee were spotted lunching in Weho again. They'll go public soon.

harry trolls back, it's been a while! With all our resident trolls here things things must be getting boring...timmy or armie need to do something. Twitter sightings, Rebecca set pics, I'll take anything

I'm genuinely starting to lose interest in both of them. It's been a long ride after all.

Y'all keep on bitching about the handful of charmies like they're to blame for what Timmy and Armie say and do while Timmy continues to show no interest in anymore (bearding included) and Armie gives less and less fucks about his fake-ass marriage.

^^^ anyone

Charmies, please learn that there are certain DLers who hate shippers and literally go to every ship thread to shit on people and stir the pot. The fact that after 50 threads people still engage these trolls is mind boggling.

Elizabeth was beautiful in the past

But look at her today

she was pretty, but probably her failure as a model its a major issue for her, thats why she got all the surgeries and pretends she has the perfect life

In addition to the surgeries, she's really lost all the fat in her face (which may be a result of surgery too, I'm not an expert), and this isn't a good look on her. She looks like a mean girl now.

R41, it's normal, everyone ages. Believe me it will happen to you, as certain as the sky is blue and we breath oxygen to survive.

And pray you look half as decent as this lady when you do.

And btw, what you look like does not guarantee a happy marriage, otherwise you would never see ugly people getting married and it does happen — all the time. There are other qualities that make a person likeable, things that you might not able to see at first sight. Now, finish drinking your milk and off you go to your homework!

R43 a 'mean girl' married to the man you covet and with an incredible lifestyle you would never have...

She's doing alright, if you ask me.

There is getting older gracefully, looking after yourself and then those who will not give up and end up looking weird. Elizabeth is not old, but she has botoxed herself, lost too much weight and is starting to look plastic. Armie can be in love with her as much as he wants, but I do find her extremely irritating. She is like so many just as irritating LA housewives.

this same conversation is happening in the hammer thread, why not keep it there? people are discussing it there, the exact same photos are posted there. and before someone inevitably gets defensive - relax. i know some of you are absolutely obsessed with elizabeth and everything she does but i just don't understand the need to have the same conversation at the same time in two different places (with the same people too probably).

[quote]a 'mean girl' married to the man you covet and with an incredible lifestyle you would never have...

He married her 10 [italic]years[/italic] ago and it's obvious to anyone with eyes and a brain he doesn't want her anymore hence her cosmetic interventions, anorexic body, desperation and straight up craziness.

Just wondering what these Liz worshipers get out of stanning a lying, thirsty, privileged housewife with not much going on upstairs.

I find it fascinating how she brands herself "Armie Hammer's wife" and attaches herself to his work life, socializes at movie events and does autographs as if she's in the movie her husband is in, takes photos she then posts all over her Instagram page that are meant to be sartorial indulgences, and talks about "working" when she follows him to red carpet events around the world, but becomes defensive and upset when media refers to her as just Armie Hammer's wife. If you align yourself with an identity like "Someone's wife" and then your entire public life is pivoted around someone else's "celebrity life", how exactly do you think people will orient you? It's strange and something I've never seen another actor's wife do in the media. It's actually quite tacky and a turn off. And the commentary Elena and People's posts about her really show that people see her thirst for fame. There's zero substance. Even Chrissy Teigen has managed to carve out a name for herself and a whole business of her own without sponging off her famous husband. Not to mention, how she has paired herself off with Harper for sponsorship as some mommy/daughter duo since they sold their house last year. It could be cute, but because she's herself - fame-hungry, thirsty, and overall a tryhard - it's just sad at this point.

What's even more fascinating is how media has been pushing Elizabeth for the last year and a half and putting her name out there as a sole entity and yet, she doesn't really have much to go off as Chief Cupake Entrepreneur. I could respect her hustle if there was some genuine stuff there, but I really can't find one genuine thing about her. She's not relatable or "likeable" as a social media personality and she certainly tries too hard to be something she's not. Since she seems to be reading these forums to see what people say -- here's a tip from me to you, Liz. Stop sponging off Timmy's Instagram stories and personality and just do you. If you really have no idea who "you" are, maybe shop for a personality that isn't so easily identifiable to fandom.

All the surgery and derma shit would be fine if it didn't add to how manic a person she seems to be these days. She has the biggest obsession with presenting a picture perfect life on Instagram and it'a so sad. All the lying and scheming for what?! To get rinsed out for your idiocy online? I mean damn, isn't shit at peak humiliation yet? After Chris Pratt and Anna Faris made their divorce public, I think it was Anna who talked bout how she became obsessed with making things seem perfect with their family on social media. Maybe a kind of self-denial. And what Liz is doing is pretty much the same.

I can't even feel sorry for Liz. She's so lacking in general self-awareness and tact and I feel like more people should be sorry for her, instead of villified, but it is what is. The fact that Armie looks dead in her presence just makes the whole thing a million times worse.

R47 is right. I myself fell for it but whoever keeps posting Liz's pics in both threads should stop. She's Armie's wife and belongs in the Armie thread. Elizabeth may be pathetic but she literally have two DL threads dedicated to her right now.

R51 It's not even an Armie thread anymore, and they haven't been for a long time. I'll never understand why people seem to be so obsessed with her. But whatever. Their choice.

R51, there is nothing to talk about otherwise.

I tend to reply because I am so sick of the straight women who flock here to go on and on, on why Armie would not choose them as partners. This is getting beyond ridiculous. What is wrong with women, are we back in the 1950s where their sense of identity was lived through men?

"Pick me" "No, pick me" " She is too fat, pick me instead". .........

Getting back to Timmy........I'm missing him. :-( Wonder if he'll continue to post once a while on his IG? Hope so.

Agree R54 --this drought has been a little easier than last summer so far since he has posted a couple of times and been seen at Cannes. But I'd love for him to keep popping up. When the Rainy Day trailer dropped I was surprised at how nice it was to hear his voice again.

The IMDb page for The King still says “The plot is currently unknown”. Which is slightly worrying but the release for this year still seems like a go

honestly the King doenst sound good, david michod is a very regular director, mediocre even

don't netflix release trailers pretty late? I think it will be an autumn release rather than summer, I think if it was summer we would've heard a little something by now. Maybe that poster who said it was being worked on because it was tonally all over was telling the truth. I'm not actually expecting much from this tbh, I think it will be good enough & have good performances but won't really grab peoples attention or stand out in any way, definitely not an awards contender.

Actually, the fact that they're not dumping it in the summer would suggest they probably want to take it to film fests so it can't be that bad. I agree with r58 on how it will probably fare. I'm personally only curious about it because of Timmy's performance. I'm not impressed with Pattinson or Edgerton as actors, the latter is a pretty good director tho. Don't know much about Michod.

The combination Michod + Edgerton gives little confidence. Will be pleasantly surprised if this is overall good. I think some performances are going to be great. Sean Harris, Ben, Tim, but I see this going to a couple of festivals and being lost in the hype of other movies.

Ooooh yes, Sean Harris, forgot all about him. LOVE Sean Harris!

R59 it'll definitely do the festivals, debut at tiff probably, but I think it'll really get left behind all the other much better releases this year. If it turns out to just be good or ok and tims does well in it then no problem. Could do with a year of no over hyping, over exposure, non stop awards season promo and pr BS surrounding tim. Some fans (a specific group - I know not everyone) should learn not every project and performance he does will be *amazing*, still young and finding his feet. There does though seem to be more pressure on this one though, since it's the first project he took on post cmbyn success & oscar nom (I think)

I think this movie was more of a personal challenge for Timothee. He may not have many opportunities to play a Shakespeare historical character in this day and age, like his older peers did. So even when I do not expect much from the movie as a whole. I do have certain expectations about his performance. But I don’t think he will be in the talks this awards season, which like people have said above, should be a nice breather to focus on his new projects.

R49 OMG! I've never read anything so true, you're certainly the person who has the clearest vision about who Liz is and what she and Armie are bringing to people

Yep the overzealous stans need to dial it down, they're not helping Timmy and are actually super embarrassing for him, tho to be fair all IT boys have a few nutters as fans. Not every performance will be awards worthy, like grow the fuck up. That said, he's not to blame for the crazies considering how he minds his own business, how humble and all about the work he is. I'm not getting into the whole 'parading with Lily' debacle because I think that was 100% bearding and had nothing to do with self promo or trying to snag awards (this theory is actually pretty ridiculous and makes no sense).

Yeah, the bearding did its job in that now when people and studio execs google him they’ll see that he very recently had a girlfriend, instead of them seeing that the last time he was seen with a girl was in high school. And now he’s free to keep doing his thing in private and appearing “single” without anyone getting suspicious that he’s never seen with girls. It was a necessary evil if he wants to keep his private life private.

^^^^^ **** or more accurately *needs* to keep his private life private.

Exactly. It was high time to be seen with a girl with Dune coming and possibly a CMBYN sequel. The studio execs probably asked for some reassurance on his 'straightness', remember the Marta stunt and the Lily casting was right around the time he signed up for Dune. Now he's free for a few years.

Can't wait for The King. Really want to see Tim next to real actor, like Sean Harris.

Also, if Armie divorces down the line Timmy's team can say look, nothing sus about it. Timmy had a girlfriend, his gf and Armie's wife were totes bff, Timmy and Armie's wife are friends just look at him on her insta, Armie and Timmy's gf got along so well during filming. All such a happy fam. Timmy's ass ⟶ covered.

[quote] On the phone from Jordan, where she's filming the upcoming remake of Dune

Wonder when this interview happened? Cause she seemed to have been shooting euphoria for ages, and we didn't hear of her going to jordan back when everyone else was there I don't think. From her stories she seems to still be in the US. Mistake maybe

Zendaya was in Jordan for about 3 or 4 days.

R72 ah right, completely forgot lol

R65 how can you say PR relationships used for award season promo make no sense when its a very common industry practice?? Do you really think it was a coincidence that they started their stunt at the beginning of award season and then abruptly ended it when he didnt get the Oscar nomination?

I’m not saying htis was the *only* reason for the stunt, I think bearding was a huge part of it too, but to say it had nothing to do with awards season is pure ignorance.

I said I'm not getting in the whole debacle but no, it makes no sense to me when he never called the paps on himself, or take her to any swanky parties swarming with the media or go to any basketball games to smooch court-side etcetcetc, you know the usual fauxmance setup for max exposure. And him stunting for awards makes even less sense. Now if he had done it the Rami Malek way I'd say sure but not when he didn't take her on a single red carpet and flaunt their couple all over Tinseltown during awards season. He couldn't even answer a fucking question about her, that's how surprised he was because he was sure he wasn't going to be asked which shows his camp banned any questions about her. When you're trying to use a fauxmance to rise your profile you talk about it, do it on social media etcetc. You don't go about it like he did it from the very beginning so don't use the Oscar snub = change of plans excuse. The GGs and the CCAs were before they announce the noms so clearly he didn't intend to take it further that a few pap walks. But I'm not trying to convince you of my pov so you shouldn't try either. I was here for all of it, I'm not changing my mind.

*took her, went, go about it like he did, announced...

lots of mistakes but you get my point

We’ll never know for sure but while awards season could’ve been a factor in the bearding stunt, there were also other things happening around the time the stunt publicly started that I could see warranting an immediate need for Timmy to be seen dating a girl. It could’ve been a confluence if factors. But like I said, we’ll never know all the details.

R77 no coincidence the cannes pr stunt, lily, dune , 'fey' comments were all the same time, as well as being the start of awards season. Being seen with a girl was probably just the general aim

but please can the why did it happen *exactly* debate die already. Lots of possibly reasons, it covered a lot of ground. We'll never know their EXACT reasons, but all the possibilities have been discussed to death. It was relatively low key but still PR 101. They last got seen 6 MONTHS ago, and they've recently made zero attempts to convince people they're still on (done the opposite in fact). We've got to let this debate end

R49 Armie Hammer has referred to himself as Elizabeth Chambers husband and complained about the media referring to her as Armie Hammers wife because according to him, she’s more successful than him.

Moving on from the same shit that has been discussed to the Earth and back, and that fortunately finally looks truly over. There is now the fan casting for Robin going around and Timothee's name is in the mix. I really don't think that is happening at all. Not something I think he would be interested to work in at the moment.

R80 Armie overcompensates publicly when it comes to Liz and their marriage because irl he does the bare minimum and has a younger lover. I’m sure he feels guilty at times but not guilty enough to stop fucking Timmy. Especially with how psychotic Liz has become over the past couple years.

R81 things that piss me off #1 - stans who think Timothée and Armie have to be in EVERY movie together

R83 What are you talking about? Armie is not going to be in the Batman is he? Maybe you need to calm down.

I am talking about fan casting that came out today, days after Robert was announced, it includes Timmy with names like Lucas and Ansel. Maybe you are the one that sees Armie everywhere.

With that being said, I can totally see Luca Guadagnino casting both of them in a movie 1. because they all talk about how much they want to work with each other again 2. Because Luca always works with the same actors. So a Luca's project is where I could see them collaborating soon. But that doesn't mean people want to see them in every project together. That would not work at all.

I would like to see Armie and Timmy star in a porno together. Luca can direct since they feel comfortable with him.

Is it Pauline in Stéphane’s last IG story?

R87 it is. I love how close her, timmy, will & stephane are. Will posted that story a few days ago from what looked like the same apartment timmys posted on his account twice, first back in 2014. Since Stephane and Will where in NY at the time and stephanes chilling with pauline, I'm pretty sure will was at timmys parents place (with pauline, stephane was probably there too)

R87 yes

I eat old people's excrement.

it safe to say Will and Stephane are part of the family.

Lizzo talked about TC and CMBYN on a French radio show.

A lot of media outlets are reporting that Bradley Cooper and Irina are heading for a split. Maybe it’s BS but it hasn’t been debunked so far. Just goes to show that no one knows what’s really going on in celebs’ relationships because they seemed perfectly happy recently, even among the Lady Gaga rumors.

Huh? What does Cooper and his beard have to do with anything?

^ *do

R94 a comparison with Armie and Liz was probably implied

Well, there are several people in this thread who always defend Armie and Liz’s marriage and swear that they’re madly in love and Charmies are crazy, which is mostly based on what they see from Liz’s IG, which is really just a highly manipulated glimpse that only shows what she wants us to see. Yet people with an agenda take it as gospel that that’s exactly how things are, when things rarely are as they are depicted.

[quote]a comparison with Armie and Liz was probably implied

Ah, of course...because fuck forbid the thread goes ten posts without mentioning the frau of an actor that Timmy made a movie with three years ago.

wait people think cooper and shayk have a genuine marriage? cmon now

Dune.

[quote]wait people think cooper and shayk have a genuine marriage? cmon now

Only the straight teen girls and old maids that have hijacked DL.

Their marriage is about as genuine as Armie and Liz’s lol

Dune: What we know so far.

Cooper and his beard aren't married, dumbasses.

Smart and wise.

I aspire to be as wise and shrewd as Timmy in life #truestory (can never be as cute tho)

Thanks, r100. I think this is the same interview (but not 100% sure) where the interviewer says "we're missing Armie." And Timmy says, "we're missing a hammer." And then he pouts. lol So cute. At least that's the exchange as I remember it.

Timmy was acting like he hadn’t seen Armie a few days ago and wasn’t about to see him later that night. A needy boy.

That's true. They'd just seen each other in NY a few days ago and he was already missing Armie. Timmy = needy bottom boy. lol

One dumbass illiterate has written 40 posts on here, rambling on and on and on without paragraphs. Fucking loser.

Timmy's high school in the news recently.

R107. Timmy said that, and it's interesting to note that nothing in the conversation prompted that (or maybe it that cut during video editing?), he said "We're missing an Armie, we're missing a Hammer". Non-Charmie, but always thought that was cute. You'd think he'd be relieved to be interviewed alone after being interviewed with Armie for a million years during cmbyn press, but nope.

I'd like to know if he feels more at ease handling media on his own now.

interesting changes on the website. If it's still a working title, it's safe to say no summer release or trailer any time soon lol. If they're considering changing the title this late, it isn't a great sign tbh (hope they don't change it) I think the person who came here saying the tone was all over the place was telling the truth, it would explain these changes and no sign of release even though its june already

R113 I think this is going to be another very average film with a great performance from Timmy.

Of course it's going to be a mess, lol. I only care about Tim's accent tbh, hope it's not terrible because that would kinda crush me. Other than that, meh.

R114 same. I think there will be other great performances in it as well, but as a film won't be anything special. A king henry film was always gonna be a hard sell. I'm still excited though that we're getting the chance to see timmy do Shakespeare & a British accent.

So all he has this year is this & LW (and ARDINY, which I hope just bombs then gets forgotten quick) He might have a very quiet award season, which I think might do everyone some good lol

They don't have release dates for any of their potential contenders. Last year Outlaw King's trailer came out in August, when the movie was premiered at TIFF in September. I think Netflix is trying to work out how they gonna release all the movies they have prepared for the Fall. The Irishman, The Laundromat, The Pope, this one. Not disagreeing with the fact that it doesn't look promising, and the working title thing seems to indicate Michod and Edgerton probably didn't pull this off to be awards worthy (not surprising), but not having a release date yet seems pretty standard. Maybe Timmy will drop a hint in July like he did last year, when they get know the festival line-ups.

R115 same, a bad accent would totally ruin the movie. But I’m sure he nailed it (at least I hope so)

michael doing the audio book looks like!

R119 pretty cool if Michael is doing it but I was hoping it would be Timmy, I could listen to him talk for hours

R119 I don’t see Michaels name there. Where is it?

I agree, r120 even his voice is beautiful. lol

Anyone going to be weirded out if Michael is reading sex scenes between Elio and Oliver as Michael was dad to Elio??

Maybe Timmy doesn’t feel comfortable doing the audio book because the story hits too close to home and he’s afraid he won’t be able to control his emotions

R121 I didn't see it at first either.

Michael does make sense if the story mostly focuses on Papa Perlman, as Andre has said it does. Would still love to hear Timmy read the audiobook of...well, anything, but particularly something in the CMBYN universe.

Imagining Armie's and Timmy's voices during their pillow talk. - sigh -

Armie was great and i am sure Michael will do this amazingly I wish it was coming out closer to Labor Day weekend as I have a long road trip. Has anyone pre ordered a copy?

R113 don't recall someone reviewing the king here. do you have more details or remember what they said? of course if you're talking about the guy from the facebook group who was already debunked no need

R129 no not the fb fan, someone who came here. Obviously needs to be taken with a grain of salt, maybe it was BS, but what they said would make sense if there are still changes being made to the film at this late stage. I'll try to find it

R130 thanks! definitely want to see their review

[quote] I know someone who works post-production at Hireworks. He is not working on The King, but some of his colleges are. He heard that the movie is heading back to the editing bay. At this point quality wise unreleasable... One guy said. "Kind of a tonal mess."

from part 45, posted start of march. Again, could be totally made up but it's believable

R132 thanks I missed that. I'm going to call BS since that was the same person who said the King was being rated in the UK in April lol. Hireworks is also UK based when we know Michod and his editor are working on this in Australia.

R133 right, didn't pay attention to whatever else the poster said & wasn't really sure how it worked with where these get worked on/where they're based. We'll call BS then lol

So frustrating how secretive netflix are and how nothing leaks about screenings. This film got shot a YEAR ago and there's nought. For once can we have someone come here with some real decent inside info...where all the netflix employees at

R133 Definitely keep in mind period pieces take much longer to edit and finish the visual effects. Outlaw King last year had a similar scope to this movie and the director said he was editing to the last minute until it debuted at TIFF. I did hear about test screenings for three other Netflix contenders so leaks are happening. The King just hasn't test screened yet.

Or you could just, you know, wait a few months until it plays at fests instead of asking for someone to come here with ~info? lmao as if the ~insiders on these threads aren't all full of shit. Crazy idea, I know.

damn, sorry for wishing someone could leak some info on a gossip thread...it would just be nice since it happens with other movies. Just surprised that nothing at alls come out & that there's a potential name change this late, but by what R135 said it might be nbd. None of this is all that serious

Yeah, if only that wasn't an open invitation to trolls. And the posters/lurkers on these threads have a habit of taking the crap in here and spreading it on tumblr, ig, twitter as fact so yeah how about no, thanks.

R137 users here are really nasty so ignore R136. By the way, I wouldn't put too much stock into the name change (if it even happens). Baumbach's movie is still untitled and directors sometimes do that to prevent leaks

R139 I was just starting to think they're changing it cause all their other releases this year are also 'THE ----' lol. It may mean nothing, I just couldn't help but take late changes as a bad sign. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by this movie, but I think it'll need to be something special to get peoples attention and not be just another kinda boring king Henry drama. We'll see

I don't think it's going to work if it has Michael Stuhlbarg as the main character, to be honest.

I think the title Find Me probably fits all the characters as they are at some type of crossroads in their lives. I am sure if Mr Pearlman has left or cheated on Elio’s mother their relationship is somewhat damaged. Oliver in an unhealthy marriage and Elio wandering in his life

I agree, I don’t think it will mainly papa Pearlman, but he will be the go-between, the one that brings them together.....

R143, I think I didn't express myself correctly. I don't want Michael at all in the sequel. I would like as much screen time as possible for 'the boys'. And I suggest Luca and armie grow a pair (respectively) and show a lot explicit scenes. You know...make out sex

I liked the parents. The two girls were not very interesting

There’s no way in hell Armie and Timmy are going to do explicit sexual scenes if they are lovers. Not in a million years.

Well, then what a boring sequel this will be.

I had no problem with the first in the number of blow jobs, tongue action and foot kissing. Yes I would watch 2 hours of Timmy climbing Armie

Louis Garrel will be the lead in Woody Allen's next movie. Someone should do a presentation with all the connections between the Garrels siblings, Timmy, Stéphane, LRD, Vanessa Paradis, Jason Momoa, Amber Heard, Johnny Depp, The Kravitz... It would be neverending.

I agree, I really hope we get more visibly explicit scenes in the sequel - if there's a one. Whether they're lovers or not, Timmy and Armie need to commit to their roles.

It’ll be so awkward for them as close friends to reprise these roles..like making out with your brother. Perhaps the chemistry will be off now that they know each other and there’s no mystery.

R151 That's what I fear too.

R151 I doubt that so much. I do not see a brotherly relationship between the two. For me the chemistry has been strong all this time, during promo, after promo. Big reason why people are still invested in their relationship.

They have a better chemistry off screen than in the movie.

They've referred to each other as brothers in real life, but whatever is really going on with them, I think they're clearly appreciative of each other's bodies so I don't think having chemistry would be a problem. If anything it might get even better in the sequel.

Yes, Elio could show Oliver how experienced he's become while they were apart because in the meantime he's had all these other lovers and it should show.

The whole point of the sequel is to find out more about Oliver and Elio. Didn't André say that himself? That he fell in love with Oliver and Elio and wanted to spend time with them again or something to that effect? No one is itching to embark on a self discovery trip with papa pearlman no matter how nice he is. It's the boys people want to meet again.

Don't want to start a war or anything, (lol) but I'm just curious, what do non-Charmies think of this quote from Timmy taken from a CMBYN interview?

When asked if he has ever experienced the sort of love chronicled in the movie, Chalamet assumes a wistful tone: “I have, actually. It was the summer I was working with this actor named Armie Hammer.”

R158 We would call it a made up BS without a direct link to the said interview

The interview in question.

(that's also the one where they exchange big unembarrassed smackers in front of the interviewer. I think they definitely got more careful about things like that as the promo tour went on.)

Charmies are very versed in all ArmiexTimmy interactions. Non-charmies should take note so the debate is more balanced.

R158 Don't know what to think of it but it's an interesting quote for sure. It reminds me of the time he linked the word "love" to Armie in that rapid fire questions game.

R163, I am sure he regrets it now. Letting people in too much

There's a lot more evidence out there that would prove Charmie has a great shot of existing when you look at the evidence and the magnitude of just how much of it there is. Kinda crazy. If they are dating, good for them. Chemistry like that is a one in a million thing.

I think as long as they're happy and their careers aren't affected, what they do behind close doors is their business. And yeah if things are like that, good for them.

*closed

I already said it once but the world is simple and if it looks like two people are fucking then they probably are. They wouldn't feel the need to hide if this was all so innocent.

^^ true. Most of the times if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

R168 How do you knox they're hiding? They've been very public about their affection for one another.

^*know

R170 They avoid hanging out in public and posing for photos together. If they're such close friends that they actually share clothes (or dress to match) then that's not normal.

Not to mention that they don’t interact on sm at all. What’s the big deal among two friends? It’s like they don’t want to draw unnecessary attention to their relationship, which is weird because they have no problem talking about each other in interviews and whatnot. But maybe they see that as the public sphere and sm is more personal. Who knows.

Armie fucks his wife behind closed door for sure.

Remember when Timmy was liking Liz's posts last fall but only those of the kids or her alone? He can be such a bitch lol. I'm glad Armie's off sm, no more Hammily cringefest!

R170, they have been public about their affection 'as brothers'. They have shown no overt sexual/romantic attraction in public.

R176 Yes that's what I'm saying. Kinda weird for lovers to act like brothers, right? And even if Charmie was real, why would you expect something more? Armie is married with two kids, he's not gonna tweet about wanting to fuck Timmy's hole.

So you don't know if they're "hiding" or if there's just nothing to hide.

idk about y'all but idk many brothers who call the other guy, who they already simulated sex with naked, their lover or thank the wife for letting them climb their bro, or call their bro a beautiful man or make orgasmic noises like a total fangirl, or almost cry when talking about their bro in front of a roomful of people including their favorite director and their bro's homophobic mother, or equate love to their bro, or blatantly stare at their bro like he's a piece of juicy steak they want to devour...so on cause I could be doing this all damn day.

All that and more. It’s incredibly wild R178

R178, you have forgotten to mention Armie's public 'love letter' in a well-known publication, calling Timo Beautiful Boy. Not to mention the fact that Armie was on the verge of tears in an interview explaining his unique experience making the film. Had they been French, Italian or in general European actors, I would have thought that was normal, but American men are a lot more self-conscious of the limits of conventional male behaviour, especially among themselves. That's what made me suspicious about them.

Also, Armie in one of his instagram posts many months ago wrote a post about platonic love of your friends even male friends and regretted the fact that intense love outside conventional marriage was not acceptable in society or something along those lines. It was very telling, but I have not seen it since. I wonder if it was real or whether he deleted it. Anyone has heard about it?

R178 really? Ever been in a bromance? Ever had a close or best friend? Timmy is also very young and it’s not surprising that he would react in such a manner to Armie as an older dude that he has deep admiration and respect for. Does Timmy have a biological brother? A lot of guys have had such friendships without it being a sexual thing that’s what a bromance is like. Maybe you’ll experience it one day.

[quote] Also, Armie in one of his instagram posts many months ago wrote a post about platonic love of your friends even male friends and regretted the fact that intense love outside conventional marriage was not acceptable in society

He’s right it’s not acceptable because people assume that you’re fucking. Timmy and Armie may have a very strong love for each other as brothers but there are people in society who cannot and will not accept that. They have to accuse them of sexual infidelity.

What's incredibly wild? I can't see r178's comment.

No fuckng set pictures of Armie?

All of this proves that they didn't really hide though, and that's what I don't get as a non-charmie who wouldn't rule out that anything is possible. I understand being friendly and liking each other, and I think they played it up for PR a little bit (not that they aren't actually close), but some of the comments and interactions went beyond that, like that Guardian interview and plenty of other stuff. You would think that if there was a hidden relationship they wouldn't be so obvious about it. Unless they assumed that as long as one of them is married to a woman no one would take it seriously? Still, it seems like playing with fire if there was any truth to it.

[quote] Still, it seems like playing with fire if there was any truth to it.

People do that all the time

something particular people should accept is it was played up for promo, thats whats asked of actors playing couples or friends even in films (I was just thinking how with booksmart rn they're doing the whole 'we're bffs irl too'). That's by no means at all saying it's faked, there's a huge difference between playing up whats already there and faking it entirely. They clearly got VERY close and cmbyn means a ton to them both for many reasons. This also doesn't go to explain everything they've said and done, especially post cmbyn, I definitely think some shits been weird. I just feel like there's this all or nothing mentality. They're either in a full fledged affair and timmy was being 100% serious with all the stuff he said during promo, or it was all lies and they're faking even their friendship. Like that grown ass foryouinsilence woman who did a 180 cause she found out they were told to play it up for promo. Duh. Point of this post is SOME of the 'evidence' brought here, like an interview done during cmbyn promo, needs to be taken way way less seriously.

R180 Never seen or heard about a post of Armie relating to something like that. The nature of their relationship is very subjective as some people see beyond a bromance, and others only see a bromance, but people that see a bromance often also say they played up the relationship for promo, so at the end of the day they have to admit it doesn't look as platonic as they say it does. And about the hiding not hiding, it looks very ambiguous to me. Like they stopped heavily interacting online because of the frenzy it was causing, the drama, the elizabeth bashing, but they didn't stop completely. I at least see Timmy's behavior online as a vehicle to validate something, calling Armie his lover at an industry event, the tree he posted online. I don't think they are having an affair, not a physical one, but an emotional one? feelings involved? Perhaps.

But the fact that most people don’t believe there’s anything going on between them proves that they can do whatever they want, be as “obvious” as they want and they will still be safe because I guess to most people it just seems too far-fetched that they could be lovers. Or whatever the reasoning is.

If you don't believe they're fucking good for you I guess? I'm not sure what some posters here expect...proof? There ain't gonna be any, they're too smart for that. There's a lot at stake. A breadcrumb here and there like the tree post for the extremely close followers and that's about it. Most will take anything they do as a joke or find a way to explain it as just bros being bros so what's the point. lbr neither side will convince the other they're wrong and they're right so this is a pointless discussion imo.

We will just have to wait and see R190, and follow it closely as mere spectators. If there is something, time will tell.

I remember the Armie post about intimacy that is being referenced. He didn't post it himself but liked a post on IG of this image. I don't remember the account or any more details but it was sometime last spring, I think. I seem to remember there being a lot of talk about it right around the time of Timmy's Austin speech.

Just read up a little on the fucked up way Armie was raised and his weird ass marriage at a young age. He basically married his mother. No wonder the whole CMBYN experience turned his life upside down and he seems to have a harder and harder time faking it with Liz. Agreed with r191. Time will tell.

[quote]If they are dating, good for them.

For fuck's sake, they're not dating.

(I know I keep posting about the feyd actor lol I really wanna know and I think we'll find out very soon) From this IG post;

[quote] However, Dave Bautista and the Feyd actor will only be needed for a few days in Budapest, suggesting only a couple of scene appearances for them in the first film.

I thought this character was more important, sounds like it'll be more a cameo, so maybe someone super impressive acting wise won't really happen. Definitely a chance for harry (he followed zendaya recently) I wouldn't be much of a fan of that just cause it bothers me how similar looks wise him and timmy are. They might wanna do the british pop star thing again though, it would definitely get attention. Wonder what the reaction would be? Outside of fangirls obviously loving timmy, zendaya & harry in one movie, I mean the other dune fans

[quote] because I guess to most people it just seems too far-fetched that they could be lovers.

It’s not a question of it being too far fetched..there’s just no evidence period! In fact if there was any evidence, I doubt people would have a problem believing it, it’s hollywood after all and it’s not shocking for artists to have fluid sexuailities. It’s just problematic to insist upon it because they were lovers in a movie who developed a close friendship and played it up to promote the movie by being flirtatious with each other. Now their friendship irl is affected because they’re not allowed by charmies to be just friends..rumors dog them.

I don't agree their relationship is affected, if they were seriously affected, I doubt Timothee would be saying Armie is his lover to industry people and feeding shippers online. That is something people that are offended by the shipping have a hard time grasping, they are not as offended as some fans seem to be.

R192, that's the post! Thanks

I'm surprised it did not give people more food for thought at the time or since.

[quote] Now their friendship irl is affected because they’re not allowed by charmies to be just friends..rumors dog them.

R196, please don't start with this old chestnut. Are you a larry?

Lol Armie and Timmy do everything they can to encourage the rumors. Everyone can come to their own conclusions as to why but if the shipping bothered them they wouldn’t say or do half the shit they say or do.

[quote]It’s not a question of it being too far fetched..there’s just no evidence period!

Exactly. There's far more evidence that Tim and Will could be dating, and that virtually everybody here avoids that fact like the plague proves that this thread is full of nothing but dumb, straight girls living in their own fanfic world.

R200, true

R201 yeah it's morw likely Tc is dating will than Armie.

R195 Feyd is more important in the second part of the book

R192 Can you write it? It's not available anymore, I can't see it

If you’re waiting for clear cut evidence like kissing pics, you’re never going to get it. The most you’re going to get is what we’ve been getting for the past three years - innuendo, ambiguous clues, suspicious coincidences, etc. that’s enough for some and it’s not enough for others. I think both opinions are fair. But idk for how much longer people are going to keep going in circles about them. I suppose until something happens that will alter the status quo, like Timmy entering a new (real) relationship or Armie getting divorced. But until either of those things happen, everyone will just keep recycling the same arguments because nothing is going to change as far as what we get from them and literally everything is open to interpretation depending on each individual’s biases, background, life experiences and so on.

R188 I try to look at things as objectively as possible, and I think shippers are mostly delusional and read into everything too much but they do have a really strong connection and if there was anything more I could see them maybe having real attraction to each other, possibly something bordering on an emotional affair, which was complicated by the fact that their job required intimacy. I agree that a physical affair is unlikely though.

That said, the tree and the 'lover' thing are the few things that make me see the tinhat argument a little bit. The post might just have been a coincidence but it was really convenient timing and wouldn't be obvious to anyone who wasn't looking for it. They also happened around the same time and it wasn't during promotions. I don't understand why he was going around saying it at that event but it being a joke or a reference to the movie doesn't make much sense either.

Well, when you gotta keep your relationship a secret from almost everyone I can understand being tempted to let little things slip here and there or just see how far you can push things. And the fact that no one batted an eye at his “declaration” once again shows that he probably could’ve said ‘I love sucking Armie’s cock” and everyone would’ve been like ‘awww, they have the sweetest friendship!” And they both know this.

R205 the actual post he liked was over a year ago, I don't have a link to it exactly. I just uploaded the same image at the link, which should still work. I can't find the exact post anymore either because it's been so long, but I remembered the photo because I'm a big fan of Jenny Holzer, the artist who made it.

I don’t see him calling him his lover as anything more than a joke - played on the fact they played lovers in a movie and the fact that they’re very close friends. I mean Timmy has jokingly said that they did everything in the movie irl too. For people with a sense of humor or flirty personality, it’s clear they’re being playful with each other which is a sign of their closeness and comfort with each other. They’re also wise enough to know that most people will take their flirtatious love fest as just that while other people may actually believe it’s real and that they’re fucking. They may have no problem with the latter because it promotes their fandom and gives them attention in a business where that is key. However, it affects their relationship irl in the sense that they can’t hangout just the two of them much in public because that would really fuel the rumors.

R209 No problem, but what's written?

Timmy does say things in jest and sometimes doesn’t censor himself. On Ellen he told a story of seeing his mom naked as a prepubescent boy and locking her out on the deck of a cruise ship. On Fallon he told a story of meeting Angelina Jolie and then Jennifer Aniston immediately after at the golden globes. Who tells such stories publically..lol? Is it surprising that he called his love interest in a movie his lover irl?

R211 Kiss your friends’ faces more. Destroy the belief that intimacy must be reserved for monogamous relationships. Be more loving. Embrace platonic intimacy. Embrace vulnerability. Use emotionality as a radical tactic against a society which teaches you that emotions are a sign of weakness. Tell more people you care about them. Hold their hands. Tell others you are proud of them Offer support readily. Take care of the people around you.

[quote] Destroy the belief that intimacy must be reserved for monogamous relationships.......Embrace platonic intimacy.

So he most probably has embraced platonic intimacy with Tim. But that may have been then. The thing with intimacy is that it makes you feel very comfortable and you let down your guard...

It's obvious that they're physically affectionate. The governor's award video in which Armie almost instantly grabs Timmy's waist to pose in front of the camera supports this argument. He had to remind himself to refrain because they were in public.

R195 Are you the Harry Styles troll? Harry isn't going to be in this movie. That is, unless they want it to flop.

Harry and Timothee dined together last night.

The ugly Welp Troll runs this thread.

R217 They did, but only in your dreams. Even a toddler would realise this is a (bad) manip.

Far more chance of Tim hooking up and having hot sex with bisexual Styles than there is of him getting with old married man Armie. Styles turns het guys bi all the time. As Chris Martin said: 'I thought I was straight until I saw him.' Tim was starstruck in the iD interview.

You hoes will lose your shit if that happens. Can't wait.

Fuck Styles is ugly. He would stink up Dune with his overblown ego

Harry Styles has denied being bi several years ago - he is just a gay man

Armie and Timmy look like they have amazingly hot sex. Just the way they can barely control themselves in public and always look like they can’t wait to be alone. They are so hot for each other. That’s why people can’t get enough of them.

R223 Yep, even when they try to play it cool like at the HFAs, they still looked they wanted to rip each other’s clothes off. They just ooze sexual chemistry like two people who love fucking their brains out and are shit at hiding it.

Secretsofdune Twitter thinks Tye Sheridan will be playing Feyd

Totally agree, r223 and r224. And I think as time goes on they're caring less and less about trying to hide it. I think Timmy is worse at hiding it than Armie is with the way he looks at Armie etc. He's the more obvious about it of the 2. lol

Styles is way more attractive than the skinny lizard Timmy.

Agree, R227. Styles has muscles, is 6ft and has a much stronger jawline than weak chinned Timmy.

'And I think as time goes on they're caring less and less about trying to hide it."

Doh, stupid Welp Troll. They haven't been pictured together for over a year. How desperate are you?

r225 that lips can serve some purpose. hopefully he can recover from X-Men mess

Didnt Timmy lose out to Tye for the Spielberg movie? Now he might be playing second fiddle to Timmy...

Timmy is really an once in a lifetime talent and its been a joy to see his rise. CMBYN would not have been half the success it has been without Timmy as Elio. The performance obviously won over everyone, but also his endearing personality has been a big reason for the success. If Timmy had been less dorky or charming, or anything like that obnoxious netflix dude, people would have turned on him and the movie pretty fast, given the age difference thing. But because everyone wants to see him succeed, that's a big reason why no one really went after that aspect of CMBYN that hard, even tho Armie looks nowhere close to 24 and the age diff seems more.

I think there's a big chance that Dune might be a flop, but I dont think that's going to affect Timmy's career. Looking forward to his future movies and rooting for him to break Brody's record.

Tye Sheridan is supposed to start filming Voyagers with Colin, LRD and Fionn this month.

R227

'Skinny Lizard' ???

r233 - that dude obviously a troll or hater. just ignore

R216 very much not the Harry troll, I'm not a fan of him, just really interested in who itll be and thinking there is a good chance now it'll be him (which ill be a little disappointed with) I still want lucas but thats probably not happening. Maybe tye. Tbf there are a fare few young male actors who could do it, which is why I'd rather they not go for the super obvious, but they might really just want a name like that attached

I lkie you R213. But unfortunately American culture doesn't allow what you describe. Everyone will get creeped out thinking you're coming on to them.

R236 Well clearly Armie wants that to change.

R213 Yeah, no. You don't get to set other peoples' personal space boundaries. Pull that crap and you deserve all the slaps and #metoo pain that you get.

awww look at that little lizard face. r234 you, Tumblrinas go back to Tumble asap.

R239 I wonder how old these shippers are, under 15 ? I can't see adult women ship a man with 2 kids with an emaciated twink.

Liz aka r240, we get that you hate Timmy. You can stop posting now. And by the way, you've got it backwards. YOU are the one who is emaciated. You're just jealous of Timmy because he's beautiful unlike you. .

I can post what I want. You shippers hate Liz and others hate Tim or you delusional shippers on a public site anonymously. It's a fair game. Who can spread hate better?

R241 How old are you ? LOL your argument seems juvinile.

r242 Let them take their own medicine. LMAO

You are the reason the ignore button was created for, r242.

R245 Who care ?

Muriel, this thread is full of hate, please shut it down.

Muriel, you can:'( let them spread hate here,please shut it.

R215 you’re right Armie is physically affectionate.

Armie can’t help but be physically affectionate with his costars even growing beards together. Look at how close his crotch was to Henry’s hand r215 sometimes they forget they’re public. That’s platonic intimacy alright.

Armie and the boner situation

The only interesting thing in MW & C.

R251 I’m sure he had some boners commenting about Henry’s nipples

So what's the different between Timmy being with Will for months while filming a movia or living together and the whole Brandon Flynn and Richard Madden being roommates?

*movie

R254 eh probably no difference who’s top Will or Timmy?

My vote is for Will

Well, Will takes the photos...

The difference is that B and R are both hot, and Will is ugly. Before anyone jumps at me, I have to say that while I find Will unattractive, I have nothing against the idea of Timmy and him together. But DLers like to fantasise, and Will isn't a suitable candidate based on his appearance.

Think about it, there have been theories about ALL of Timmy's male friends so why is Will the only exception, when there's more plausible evidence? Yep, not cute enough.

r259 how fucking shallow are you? Do you know that beauty is subjective and it is like 10% what impacts the desire to date someone ? That character and charisma and all other inner world's qualities are much more important. Look works at 1st 15 minutes. then its character's time. The shit you just wrote may have been written only by lil teens or inexperienced people who never dated real people or never had any lasting healthy relationships. It really shows

R260 Can you read? Datalounge is shallow and that's a fact. I was talking about the mentality on Datalounge, not Timmy's feelings. And side note, you have to be a teen yourself if you think that beauty is 10% of what impacts the desire to date someone for everybody. Leave Tumblr for a bit and enter the real world, you'll learn a few things.

Oh please it is 10%. Not more than that. And yes i am talking relationships here not a one-night stand. Especially if you are older than 25 and already know the true worth of it. By that age you already know what you are looking in people and filter them really fast. 1st date at 20 may take the whole day, 1st date at 30 - in fucking no way i waste my precious time on some random guy who i might hate in 1st 10 sec. fuck it. 30 min at best and then we both decide if there will be a second date at all. And all of it about character, behaviour. If he is fun. If he is polite. If it even interesting at all. The vibe etc. No one older 30 will date a stupid moron even if his dick is big and face is handsome. Fuck once maybe. But not date. Yes its wonderful when there both look and character but it is a lottery win.

r259 = total newbie, if they think there have been no theories/fantasies/fanfics about Will and Timmy

R263 I am well-aware, thank you. Every discussion on DL about a Will and Timmy love affair have been short-lived, because in the end people would rather rehash the same Charmie fantasies, or link Timmy with other men in his circle of friends. But go off I guess.

R262, blah blah blah...This thread is not about you, dear.

I never understood where the speculation came from that Timmy and Will are more than just friends. Although, this being DL I guess I can understand it. Speculation without any proof whatsoever is what we do best here. I know, I know, this is a gossip board after all. So keep the gossip coming!

Love this.

"Not that he doesn’t enjoy sex."

— Armie Hammer, pointing out a fact that all actors make sure to mention about their co-stars when being interviewed

Timmy is too thin.

He’s just right for Armie’s giant cock

You know it, r269. ;-)

He's just right for many things of Armie's. lol

[quote] Timmy is too thin.

Yes he is! Too bad Armie likes muscle butts. Can you imagine the pounding he gives that bubble butt when he visits London?

I can totally believe Armie and Henry hooking up because Henry is older than Armie. When you’re older (late 20s and 30s) you just know what you want and can hook up without the risk of someone “falling in love” and threaghtening your straight marriage. It would be so stupid and risky for Armie to hook up with someone as young and inexperienced as Timmy.

At least here is some news. Or “news”. It’s too quiet around here.

R274 some random old photo with the random ass person behind her cropped out, got to love legossip. There really is no news...been a couples of weeks since we last had a sighting or heard anything, I mean great for him that he's working away without getting bothered, but boring for us lol

LOL, I think that's her friend. Female. Can't be bothered to look now but I swear I've seen similar pics floating around IG a while ago, it had something to do with safe sex.

Fucking tabloids.

R276 amelia apparently.

Well that was some short lived news lol. I think we'll get casting news soon so that'll be something.

R276 The chin looks similar to Timmy's.

R278 Well it's not him. And they know it.

Stylothee were seen dining together in Hampstead! ❤❤❤❤

When are people going to wake up and realize that Timmy and LRD are over? As in done with. No longer together. I mean seriously. How long has it been since they've been seen together? 6 months? And you think they're suddenly going to start seeing each other again? Wtf?

relax, its just legossip shitting out articles. No one else is saying anything anymore. Twitter & IG fangirls seem to have actually given it up as well, its been 6 months and even the lilothees can't keep kidding themselves.

R278 original pic. people are so dumb, its funny

regardless how bad it will be, where is the rumor Harry will play as Feyd come from? wishful thinking?

R284, HS and Josh Broslin followed each other on IG and H followed some other Dune ppl. And a mag called Syfy had Styles as their dream cast for Feyd.

No one's talking about the fact that LRD is in Bucharest just a few hours away from Tim? Ok.

The thing starts to get quite interesting. At the end of the day, I realize that the only ones who do not say anything and do everything in a "very low profile" way are, Armie and Timmy, who, these days, do not use social networks or say "hi".

R286 it’s for her new sci fi project.

[quote] No one's talking about the fact that LRD is in Bucharest just a few hours away from Tim? Ok.

No but if it was Armie this thread would be on overdrive with speculation and delusional wishful thinking..remember when Timmy was in Canne and Armie was in London and the Charmies were going nuts with rendezvous speculations..they even knew train times and flight times for Europe.

R284 zendaya and brolin recently started following him. He's just the obvious choice right now, honestly I think he is it. The tye sheridan on imbd thing turned out to be fake

R289, Tim probably met his lover Lily and hooked up. Such a pretty girl with very delicate features.

Harry would be a bad choice, I thought Villeneuve wanted to do his own vision of Dune, but placing an English pop singer in the same role is screaming "look I did the same casting as Lynch and I am BETTER!" If Harry is in the movie it will somehow finish it off for me, Momoa and Brolin were two castings I was not happy with...

R292 he'll have pressure to cast actors who can get bums on seats. Zendaya, momoa & potentially harry are there for that reason rather than because they're the best for the role. Tim, zendaya & harry could bring a hell of a lot of attention

Styles played to full 20k arenas in the US and worldwide last year. His fandom is huge and all of them would turn out for Dune, just as they did for Dunkirk.

R292 but Momoa and Brolin are spit roasting Timmy in between shooting

R291 sure. And that lovely big head and tree stump Legs too. What a pretty girl. Don’t forget the permanent sneer and scowl too

r291 I'm sure they did. such a beauty she is!

R296, Lily is stunning. Shame that you have Tiny Dick Syndrome and are jealous of all women.

R298, lol! Shame on me? I just pointed out her stunning features. You are the one insecure about your idol’s looks. Shall we talk about the lack of talent, or the dead eyes? Pls don’t forget the 10 strands of hair on her ginormous head. Poor thing believes in her own hype. Daddy’s money might buy a career but will never buy her looks. You should get her some mouth wash on her next birthday too Lovely lily

Tim won't stand a chance with seductive Styles. Armie better watch out.

lol the nutters are out full force again, eh.

do yall not get tired of responding to the 2-3 resident trolls here. Just block & move on with your lives

No R302 they love the trolls. There is zero Charmie content in 2019.

So you're trolling just because you hate charmie? wtf does one have to do with the other.

R300 I thought Armie was too busy pounding bubble butt Henry in London?

R304 ? No you are not. I'm talking about the harry & lily troll who have been posting deliberately dumb shit for ages now but people keep responding, like it's funny but some people take it so serious...the block buttons right there. Suppose this is what happens to the thread when there's nothing happening

It’s funny that Charmies call the Harry and Lily stuff trolling when there’s zero evidence for “Charmie” which means the Armie stuff is trolling too!

I was replying to r303 aka the Harry/Lily/Selena et all troll.

R308 lol I misread, sorry

(T)roll Call

Selena Troll

Lily Troll

Stylothee Troll

Welp Troll

Charmie is Real Troll

r307 because Momoa and Brolin fucking Timmy and Armie fucking Cavill is very realistic based on a shiton of evidence, right? Nothing to talk about? Let this thread rest for a bit instead of filling it with pointless trolling.

R293 at this point I wonder what is left of Villeneuve's vision... casting Timmy was an act of faith, the rest, bha humbug. I have an idea producers, make it pg12 and cast LRD as Irulan and hype the idea of a love triangle between her and Zendaya for Timmy's affection. Nothing to do with the book, but will get bums on seats.

R311 Momoa and Brolin spit roasting Timmy is clearly meant to be humorous if you have a sense of humor at all. Armie fucking Cavil is way more believable to me than Armie fucking Timmy and there’s just about as much evidence for it if not more, even though the evidence for both is very little. Nobody here has factual evidence. But the stuff with Armie and Henry during “uncle” promo was overwhelming and they were spotted hanging out in London A LOT! Anyway we all love Timmy but would you seriously be put off by the idea of Armie pounding Henry?

R311, I agree

[quote] at this point I wonder what is left of Villeneuve's vision...

@R312, Nothing, because the studios run everything. And I get the impression this is going to be a turkey, but this is fine; it would not be the first or last turkey Tim gets involved in. That's part and parcel of being an actor.

Trolls can troll as much as they want. It won’t change the fact that Armie and Timmy are banging. That’s probably why they troll so much - the reality obviously bothers them a lot.

[quote]would you seriously be put off by the idea of Armie pounding Henry?

Listen, they can all fuck whoever they want at the end of the day. I'm just saying there's no evidence for either so no point acting all holier than thou and if Armie actually fucked Cavill, good for him? Anything better than sexless Liz whose hair he doesn't even dare to pull because he ~respects her too much. 🙄

R316 We went through the exact same thing last summer. Except this time the trolls are even more nervous because Armie and Timmy are only a couple hours away from each other and you don’t have to be a Charmie to know that they most likely have or will see each other. Let them troll. It changes nothing for Armie and Timmy’s relationship except give it more weight.

@R315 I am afraid you are right... the studios want a Marvel/ DC / Star wars mash up, and I also fear it will flop. I am very dubious of the King, thank goodness for LW and the French Dispatch, even though he is not carrying them on his shoulders. Timmy has the talent to hold a movie on his own, just that there are not many good and successful movies being made.

Right now, much loved 'stars' don't alone sell movies, loads of good ones flop - nothings guaranteed. Dune could be stunning, and tim could be incredible in it, and it could still easily flop. I don't blame them for getting the likes of zendaya, momoa & harry on board if it means better chances of success even if I think there are much better actors for those roles. It's a shame but the way things are. That and endless remakes, sequels, adaptations...no one wanting to take a chance on something original. I'm still hoping dune does better than everyone expects, people always start off very negative about these things

Star power is dead, for quite a few years now. I hope Dune is great, I loved the book and I trust Timmy, but shoehorneing Momoa and Brolin will not work; for the public they are Acquaman and Thanos. Sometimes courage is needed, look at Avatar. The story and the right chemistry between actors can work magic.

[quote] Timmy has the talent to hold a movie on his own...

It remains to be seen. He has just started out

I don't really have anything against HS but man I hope he won't be in Dune

I hope so too

I feel like Harry and Timmy's respective fandoms colliding would be...chaotic, to say the least.

looks incredibly likely. I'd much rather someone better, but I'll be fine with it helping ticket sales cause it definitely will. If it becomes official, then we'll be able to see hope desperate they are to sell this, with all these big names over actors who'd honestly be better for the characters. It's kinda sad but the way things are. Won't for me take away from denis' directing which I think will be fantastic

R325 it'll be wild. I know Charmies are already getting tetchy because of what this will mean for the harry/timmy shippers, but thats just the start lol. Harry styles stans are honestly something else. People think timmy has ott cringey stans, but boy they have got NOTHING on harrys stans

R325, oh I see, so you are one of those....chill babe, it's never going to happen

You shouldn't wish that on Timmy. For the few shippers with Harry he'll get thousands of enraged Larries bashing him. You should've read their reaction to the i-D interview, not pretty. Bringing up WA to shit on him because there's not much else to use. Plus Harry continues to feed the Larries, just yesterday he went to the same premiere as Louis in London after they happened to be in Italy a few days ago. The Larries are crazier and more alive than ever. You think the handful of Charmies are bad, you should see the legion of Larries cutting down everyone they perceive as a threat to their ship. Poor Timmy if that happens.

Tim needs to mix and work with genuine actors and proper filmmakers, people from the film industry. Harry is...I have no idea how you can define what he does for a living.

R328 I can see it. As much as people complain about charmies, they pale in comparison to a star like harrys equivalent fans. Suddenly charmies don't seem all that extreme lol. I'm sure timmy will manage though, if it means more $$$ for dune. I'd rather they officially reveal the casting soon so we can just know...this feels like batman and armie all over again lol (only a bit more likely)

R327 One of those what?

Feyd is a small role in the first movie, but I wonder if Timmy is going to have a chat with Fionn Whitehead on how to survive a press tour with Harry getting ALL the attention while the movie protagonist is sitting next to him... Of course, Timmy is better known than Fionn, and Harry's role was larger in Dunkirk, but... Stephane give your bro Fionn's number! The larries make ANY shipper fandom look sane.

R332, what are you talking about? Harry is not an actor, H. is a nobody.

It's not happening. Quit fantasy island.

If you want to talk H. why don't you create your own thread? This thread is Tim's

R333 I think you got the wrong end of the stick. Harry is not an actor, but is very famous, and that was the terrible thing about the Dunkirk press, all talking about Harry. I hope he is not cast in Dune since it seems desperate, trying to get big names into the movie and reminds me of Sting in the previous Dune. Since Timmy is the protagonist of Dune and there are rumours about Harry being cast as Feyd, I think it is the right place to talk about it. Your thread policing is unwanted and stupid.

My thread policing is necessary when a delusional larry fan like you, wants to get H. into the conversation. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that would NEVER happen.

anyone with two brain cells to rub together could see that there is a POSSIBILITY he could be cast in dune, and discussing this doesn't make someone a fucking larry or even a fan of Harry. This discussion absolutely belongs on this thread, its the most relevant thing rn, why are you so pressed about it?

R335 you are either a troll or your reading comprehension is limited. I am not a Harry fan, as a Timmy fan I was pointing out some of the problems this casting would cause if true. Personally I understand why they would cast him in Dune (bums on seats), but I think it would be a mistake, reminding people of the terrible miscasting of Sting.

R249 That moment when Armie realizes that Henry's finger is sliding between his backdoor cheeks.

R136 "The trolls are more nervous this summer than the previous one because they know that Tim and Armie are connecting" Well, let me tell you, I'm not sure who is more nervous. In these threads has been blocked many people who defend other ideas so, that, "who is the troll?". And that they are connecting or we will never know, both maintain a low profile so that that "they are together" are assumptions like everything else. I'll tell you one thing, and I'll keep it until the end "as long as Armie remains married, everything that is speculated is trash, when that time comes, if it comes, then we'll have something else to worry about and talk about. day arrive very soon. "

And another thing, this is a page of gay people, but being gay is not a license to talk about women like you are doing. I mean, of course, how some people talk about Elizabeth. Armie and Elizabeth are married, they have two babies together, I do not say that their marriage is perfect, I do not know, and nobody knows, I suppose they will have ups and downs like everyone else. I do not think she's perfect, but she's trying to do the best she knows.

Seriously where the hell do you live, you sounds so simple lmao. People with kids divorce, cheat, fall out of love all the time, and many remain married leading a double life. I get that you're desperately clinging to what's left of Armie's marriage and to liar liar Liz for obvious reasons but at this point you gotta be dumber than a box of rocks and more blind than a bat to not realize he doesn't give a flying fuck anymore. Staying married for appearances means shit. Ben Affleck stayed married to Jennifer Garner for 13 ears and they have 3 kids and he was screwing women left and right during half of that time. Like get out more.

*you sound, 13 years

R341, true, but the real question is who is Armie screwing?

R341 its the rambling miss spain poster

ffs let the state of armies marriage discussion go already, at least for now. Its the same thing again and again and again. Nothing new is happening

@R334

[quote] Since Timmy is the protagonist of Dune and there are rumours about Harry being cast as Feyd

Link, please? No? Just what I thought — Bs

R341 Do you know this woman personally to call her "liar" ?! R344 Nothing .. it's not worth it or to answer you.

Another famous case is Ewan Mcgregor who has 4 kids and who was married for over 20 years. He was fucking his costars (women) shamelessly and his wife was okay with it as long as he stayed married to her. The moment he wanted a divorce to be with Mary Elizabeth Winstead his wife got nasty about it. This is how things work in Hollywood and in rich circles. Stop being so damn naive.

For Tim's sake I hope HS is not in Dune, though sadly everything is pointing in that direction. It's his first big movie and he's gonna end up being overshadowed by a guy who isn't even an actor. Shame.

It's becoming a bit of a circus tbh, that cast is kinda all over the place already. And to think Villeneuve dared to take the piss out of Tim for doing The King.

R341 did not know that you personally knew The Hammers, or that you lived with them, to affirm that their marriage is on the rocks. And I do not cling to anything, to me that does not affect me, in fact, if it is true that the two are in crisis are worth more than separate, I just say what I see is different.

Armie Hammer thtead

R348 agree

back to the king now...no trailer anytime soon them lmao

Apparently there will be another screening of LW next week. Hopefully we'll hear at least something

R348 let us hope that they will be original in the Feyd casting.... but they have gone for the popular choice in other roles...

r346 haha are you new or just stupid? Liar Liz is #truefax. Stay delusional.

Lol people cling to Armie’s embarrassing marriage because it’s one of the few things they can use against Charmie. That or that one or both are straight. Lol, yeah right. Without those two weak ass arguments there’s nothing left and they know it.

R355 I never said that I believed such a thing, but if in the end it turned out to be true it would be fun, to see the pocker's face to more than one "pimp pools" in this chat. R354, WE SEE WHO FINISHES DISSOLVING AT THE END OF THE DAY.

I'm bored so here's some more off the top of my head lol. David and Victoria Beckham staying married and basically only doing red carpets, events and PR posts. He's living in Miami fucking instamodels and girls half his age picked out by pimp Dave Gardner (Liv Tyler's husband) while she does her own thing. Jon Hamm was screwing around for years on his wife while she was botching her face with botox and surgery, ring a bell? Harvey Weinstein was fucking around and harassing women even though he was married with 2 kids for a decade. He was financing his wife's business to keep her nice and quiet. Ring a bell again?

R353 Exactly, and if it is true then you have to wonder if they'd known about the casting before their double interview happened or maybe the interview actually gave them the idea. Tim should calm the fuck down with his fanboying. It's not gonna do him any good.

What fanboying?

And I have asked for a link to the HS news, but still nothing. It seems to me that some idiot just plucked it out of their ass.

R359 it's not official, it's very clearly speculation based on a few things - the zendaya & brolin follow, the fact he's an incredibly obvious choice. It might not be enough for you, but it's enough for others to atleast discuss. Stuff here gets talked about with way less to go. Seriously what is this problem with speculating about someone who could potentially play an important role in timmys biggest movie yet?? Again - its nothing but speculating for now, but that's what this threads for

r345 another one with zero reading comprehension skills. Anyone could post a dozen links to Tumblr and Twitter saying HS is being talked about for the role. Maybe BS but the key word is RUMOR.

R557 I am also bored to be reading absurdities of people who say things when they do not know, there is a clear difference between "speculate and affirm" a thing. That's why my insistence, nobody knows anything here, and I guess that's why it's speculated as well. But I can not stand those who claim, and also insult to defend their claims when nobody knows a shit. And many could be right in these threads, but, and if they are wrong ?! I'm not a fan of Elizabeth because Elizabeth is just Armie Hammer's wife, nothing more. I like Armie Hammer, I like Timothée Chalamet. I remember a few months ago when I was blocked for saying that "he would go to Cannes" and what did he do? I went to Cannes, I'm not a fortune-teller, just a person who observes, and I'm observing that if this goes on and the Charmies continue to insult Elizabeth, this will end up breaking the relationship between Armie and Timmy, and they will take them away from their fans, DO YOU WANT THAT? !

^ you get blocked cause you keep on posting your nonsensical musings and ramblings. You obsessed over fucking pozzan. You hardly ever make any sense. Give it a rest

Is there another Hammer board? That last one doesn't have a link and started getting trolled again by the spammer who is either Liz or someone she knows. They only spam to defend her.

[quote] David also told me Rob’s performance is excellent. I asked how so. David said Rob’s so crazy and such a psychopath. I said I didn’t realise that was his character. When I asked David how he wanted me to describe Rob’s performance he said “it’s wild and colourful”. We’re going to love it.

For the Chalamet fans – David said as soon as he saw his performance in Call Me By Your Name he knew that was his Hal.

just a little more about the king, nothing too exciting

chalamet bit was meant to be quoted as well lol

R364

At 1:21. "I was thinking um, oh, I love those two so much. We all have such a weird relationship." He's so cute and funny. And a weird relationship Armie and Liz. Interesting way to put that Timmy. lol

R368 Maybe this is just what it is, and you do not have to look for "four legs to the cat" or twist the issue.

This 2nd LW private screening is happeing tomorrow (i think long island?) Sharpie girl going again, ofc lol

Last thread got coincidentally closed when people were discussing this movie's screenings.

R360, DL speculation is just worthless delusion.

R372 Yes, everything that is speculated on in these threads is garbage, and in the end the exact opposite happens. You never know where things are going to come from.

Why do they even need an advance screening for LW? It’s a well known book and Greta has assembled a decent cast. Ronan is the only possibility for an Oscar nom and maybe costume. Someone over at AW said it is a pretty faithful adaptation and none of the men have much to do

I hope not, I can't stand that Ronan chick

R374 They do advanced screenings cause this is a movie targeting a certain demographic and they want to know how many people will answer to their screening and how they will answer to it.

He looked pretty happy to me both at The Graham Norton show and the Quotidien show that was filmed the following day, singing and laughing. The only time he has looked kinda sad for a prolonged period of time was at San Sebastian, he was a little sick I heard.

[quote]It won’t change the fact that Armie and Timmy are banging.

It's not "fact", fantard.

I just thought it was interesting the way he used the word weird to describe the relationship he has with them, r369. That's all. It just got me wondering weird in what way exactly?

There were several times during BB promo that Timmy seemed to purposely bring up Liz in interviews. Once was in a written interview where he mentioned that he, Liz, and Armie send each other the gif from the Oscars with his mom popping up and he and Armie clapping behind her. Then during the LA premiere of BB he started talking about Liz dressing the kids up for Halloween but he got sidetracked and didn’t finish his thoughts. It was kind of weird and out of place. Maybe it was out of guilt or to ease speculation about him and Armie but it was kinda weird and out of place. Like he was thinking “lemme mention Liz so people don’t think something is up between me and Armie and they can see we’re all one big happy family.”

R381 He has a tendency to mention completely random things during interviews so I wouldn't read too much into it, BUT in the past year he made exceptions for her and appeared in her ig stories TWICE, both pretty randomly. That doesn't even happen with his friends anymore. It was very, very clear he was doing her a favor for some reason. Or maybe she pushed him to it (which would've been a shitty thing to do but then it's not like she cares).

The more i think about it the more i come to a conclusion that the guy that wrote here that he "went to the screening and it was meh" is a troll and he actually wasn't there. I decided that till i see first reactions from critics i respect and my own watching i am not gonna trust anyone with the review.

And that "guy" also had the audacity to tell that "you should trust me cos if I shit on the movie and Timmy - this is the only proof i am telling the truth and all these other people who went to the screening and say the opposite is lying cos if it is good reviews it is obviously lying and only if it is a bad review you can trust it" bullshit. Not gonna happen. Either critics or me. Others with their opinion can go and fuck themselves

Saw this about the King:

It definitely seems at times like Timmy does certain things to appease her like how he was liking almost all her pics for a time last fall, agreeing to appear on her IG ( which he knows will give her a ton of hits), bringing her up in interviews, etc. But then when she’s not around he says and does some shady things like calling Armie his lover to one of her good friends, omitting that Armie is a good husband from the GQ interview, ignoring her under her pic with Armie’s jacket, posting the tree...the list goes on. The contradictory behavior I think is pretty typical of someone in Timmy’s position, if you’ve ever witnessed the dynamics of someone who has to begrudgingly play nice with the spouse of a lover but deep down can’t stand them.

Timmy was willing to put efforts into his relationship with her as long as Armie was an active participant in his marriage.

R384 They should just release this film and be done with it already. If the direction and overall writing sucks (I don't dare say acting because Timmy's in it) then no amount of post-production will be able to prevent it from flopping.

I think it was just liz going into over drive last year, with the whole pushing the lily thing hard and things seeming off bts with armie (which i don't think is because hes fucking timmy just for the record) Just all, everythings fine! bffs with timmy and his new gf who Im also besties with we're all very close! Idk...different vibes from their dynamics at times last year. To me no definitive single reason for it, combination of things that have already been talked to death

He's not an idiot and def knows Liz is trying to ride his fame. That's why doing her favors seems so weird to me. Because I'm pretty sure he doesn't like her.

R386 That's not how it works. The movie is going to the festivals in the fall, so regardless of postproduction work , or overall quality, they are not just going to dump the movie because fans are tired of waiting. Other Netflix movies coming in the fall have taken longer to get finished, but since we here don't care about them, we exaggerate about The King.

R389 Yes, yes, you're right and I know all that. I'm just frustrated because it really looks like they're trying to salvage it -which is fair enough, it's their job - because it's actually bad. Just a feeling but I hope I'm wrong.

R388 But he likes Armie. Usually when you have a really good friend you try to be nice to their partner, even if they happen to be unbearably opportunistic.

Maybe, but there still are some limits. It's his career, Liz has fuck all to do with it and yet she keeps trying to insert herself. That's gotta be annoying af.

Sometimes you gotta make concessions if you wanna fuck a married man

They finished shooting last summer and now its probably coming out for TIFF or something. Most big budget films do take a year in post from wrap. Although I am curious what the budget was on this one.

i try to brace myself that nothing coming out this and next year of Tims will be of any significance. Time shows obviously. Hope i am wrong

[395] I fear the same. I hope it will be soon announced his next work after Dune and that it will be something to be thrilled for.

According to Liz, she had lunch with Armie's mother today and Armie had lunch with Elizabeth's parents today in London, so he's not with Timmy in his free time

Lucas Hedges attached to The motley Crue new film the dirt

Sometimes you gotta make concessions if you wanna fuck a married man.

Truth. And Timmy is probably willing to put up with just about anything, even Liz, if it means he can continue hitting that.

lmao @ anyone using E-lies-abeth's word as proof of Armie whereabouts. Bitch, please!

Larries are a spent force. Louis is papped everywhere with the woman he's been with since he was 19. Harry being at the Gallagher rockumentary premiere wasn't true as he was in LA. Louis was papped there with his partner.

Harry's fandom are not a spent force. Plenty of energy there and they all want him to have a boyfriend. A lot of the new solo Harry stans hate Louis and call him Ratlinson or Floplinson. They will be looking and hoping for ANY sign of Stylothee.

Unlike Armie, Styles is an out bisexual and Tim was fangirling hard in that iD interview. Styles is very seductive and he annoyed the hell out of Fionn by making gay jokes in Dunkirk promo interviews.

R400 and you're making lies as proof of Armie whereabout . at least she's his wife but you're a nobody and no one believe your lies.

R402 relax. Shippers are the only people interested in Armie. He has no appeal beyond his association with Timothée. He isn't half as good looking as he thinks and he can't act. Plus his personality is crap

Even if Spazothee WAS with fug Armie, he would leave him for Harry HOE Styles and his ten inch dick.

Good lord, these two need to feed us some news and they need to do it fast. Between the spamming troll, the spanish troll, the Armie hater troll, and the Harry Styles troll, I'm going to end up having most posters blocked.

Armie Hammer looks like he's got a sweaty ass. Timothée has bigger fish to fry. If he's riding that bland dick it must be for career progression.

They have nothing to feed you . Tim's living his life and Armie's with the in-laws. Feed yourself with insane imagination as always , shipper.

Stylothee are going to feed us well. The naked fight between Feyd and Paul is going to be 🔥🔥

I wonder what rattled the trolls' cages again lmao. It's hilarious to watch the nutcases lose it for no apparent reason every two days. Over in Armie's thread it's the batshit ATC whining people aren't licking her queen Liz' asshole. Over here the Armie haters running amock. You sad fucks are always entertaining, I'll give you that.

This last few days these threads are full of trolls. Idk if it’s boredom because school is out or they’re nervous about something but it’s become really bad.

[quote]Over in Armie's thread it's the batshit ATC whining people aren't licking her queen Liz' asshole.

Oh, she's here on your threads too, always. She's a far-ranging troll. And then there's the Madden and Flynn threads...

R411 LOL

R411 You deranged shippers dared to compare fantasy relationship to a real couple like Madden&Flynn.

I almost peed myself that one of you're bold enough to tell them to chill after they went on 28 threads in a few week. FFS you went on 51 threads with nothing but imagination and promos. LOL

*a few weeks*

These threads have to be the ones filled with the most delusion on DL. These dudes are probably friends who still talk to each other from time to time and there's no weirdness with their SO's. End of fucking story lol.

Remember when the charmie talk and the Liz criticism would trigger ATC into filling threads after threads with scat gifs lol Like she's actually certifiably insane. As for the rest of the trolls in this thread if you check their posts all have one thing in common, the disdain for charmie. Which makes their episodes all the funnier since both guys are well off the radar and things are very quiet with them so what's with the psychosis, hm?

Who can say whether or not Armie and Timmy are fucking unless you know them personally. Does anyone here know them personally? I didn't think so. So the debate could go either way. We all might as well accept that it's going to continue to be a never ending debate on here and just have to put up with it.

in case anyone wants to have as close as possible the experience of fisting timmy

I'm sorry but that is just ugly and creepy af, r419. Can't believe someone would actually want that.

Who is gonna pay all that money for something so fucking terrifying. Never mind, this world has people who would. The bib is cute.

R419 Jesus Christ this will give me nightmares.

If that Annabelle doll had short black hair it would be identical

R405 Look in the dictionary for the word "troll" and you will see how you will feel identified. I have a bad English, but when I enter these threads to say, I can do it without chasing anyone to bother him. There are still people who say interesting things, which is why I continue to get into the DL threads, however it is becoming more difficult because of blunders like you.

By the way, I am looking forward to September and the TIFF festival, I have the impression that "The King" will premiere there. I do not know how big the role of LRD is in this movie, but I hope she does not attend. I noticed that she does not interact with her fans, she runs away from them, and she only knows how to put on "grumpy cat" licks. I do believe that "The King" can be interesting, history, it seems.

R405 Also I will tell you something else, the fact that there are fans who do not write well English and use a translator does not mean they are the same person. By "this rule of three", I could accuse you of being the same "troll" that bothers you in all the threads in order to close them. I am Spanish, the others I do not know. And another thing, I do not like Elizabeth, it reminds me a lot of Leighanne Littrell (wife of Brian Litrell, of BSB), she seems to me a "good for nothing" who lives of her husband, very similar to Leighanne, and so ridiculous like her. In a few years it is even possible that Elizabeth is wearing a T-shirt saying "do not hate me for not being me", like Leighanne.

Give it a rest, no one cares

Can someone explain this to me? I’m confused lmao.

miss pauline will be in the new judd apatow movie with pete davidson! timmy connections... stephane, cudi and now his sister. everyone gets a role

R429 those photos are surreal lmao never thought they'd be working together, work those connections! Pauline looks so different, whats the film about?

R429 okay thanks, good to know. Was not expecting that tbh!

Timmy is making sure his loved ones benefit from his success. What an icon.

We really gonna need this organigram with all the connections someone when Louis Garrel was cast in the new WA movie.

*talked about

some info

she looks good

they're doing a series too (again). What are the chances of the films cast doing it as well? I doubt it but denis is directing the pilot so idk

R435 well that sounds interesting. I hope for pauline that it doesn't end up being really shitty

R437 its not the original cast

I don't find Pete Davidson funny or appealing. Good luck to Pauline

And people were like nah, Timmy is a nobody, he can't get Lily roles. iT's tHe NepOtiSm. Sure, Jan.

This makes the Lily and Cudi casting in Dreamland all the more interesting too. And people are still saying Armie is using Timmy....

Harry is in a dodgeball team with Michelle Obama on the LLS. A Listers only! He's a great catch for Timmy.

Was there a LW screening Monday night?

Indeed R439 , I find Judd obnoxious as well. So the feminist Pauline is working with the director of Knocked up, one of the most misogynist movies of the decade? Chalamet family have a strange idea of coherence...

That is so bizarre, out of all the things you think Pauline Chalamet may end up working on. I guess this is a small part, she is working in her own project as well.

To all the people "surprised": Pauline is no god. And she obviously isn't a committed feminist, otherwise she wouldn't be trying to make it in Hollywood or hanging out with the Garells & cie, who are all either rapist/mysoginist or support people who are. Same goes for Timmy or anyone else in that business. Being hypocritical is part of the game. All we can do is try to follow those who seem less shitty, and the Chalamets are a good pick.

Wait, you think that being surprised equates to thinking they are gods? No, you can in fact be surprised of someone being in a project you didn't imagine they would be interested on, or think it's just a bizarre occurrence all of a sudden having Pauline in a HW set. Not a fan of that type of cinema, but I have seen one of the movies Timmy's uncle directed, and it can't be any worse than that.

R447 I'm addressing people who are disappointed in Pauline for being a "bad feminist". This isn't the first time, people were also calling her out for following LRD on Instagram.

r448 well people are dumb, you cant win it. let them be. Adults actually understand that life is life and there is nothing wrong in making money or be on the way to it.

Sorry R448 and R449, but if you are a feminist you should have a couple of fixed points. Pauline can do what she wants, even be in a very small part in Judd movie, so small that she is not even in imdb, but I can think a bit less of her for that.

Anyway, if Warner Brothers is ordering a Dune series directed by Denis it most probably means they are liking what they've seen so far. Glad to hear that.

Yes, there was, r443. I went to it. But can't say much at all because of what they had us sign beforehand.

Could Stephane be watching the game with Timmy, because I have a feeling he’s on a little break from filming

Right now there's nothing at all to indicate he's on a break. It's not a weekend, and considering they seemed to get held back with the weather recently and were filming round the clock to make up for it, doubt he's getting any kind of significant break any time soon. Besides he doesn't need a break to watch a game, if Stephane was to go to him in budapest

Y’all have a weird view of feminism if you think fighting for women to be free of male oppression somehow equals never talking to or working for someone who does not share your goals. There’s no other group of oppressed people that get picked part this way. Mahershala Ali was in a movie written and directed by a racist trump supporter and no one says a thing, and they shouldn’t, cause who these people work for in Hollywood isn’t activism and makes very little difference in black lives/women’s lives / etc.

R444 "Knocked up, one of the most misogynist movies of the decade" I hope you are joking... If not, this is the most retarded thing I've read today. Congrats!

In another desperate attempt to increase the ratings for his lame show, Fallon showcases Timmy's creepy doll lookalike.

R457, so you all think Timmy is the gods’ gift to mankind now? Everyone riding on his coattails? You are laughable

R458 And you're delusional if you think name-dropping Timmy isn't a way of trying to get a new, younger, and more diverse audience to watch a dying show.

R459,go and sit down! Gullible fool. You sound like the sharpie girl. Name dropping Timmy🙄. Annoying 12 year old.

Is there a new Armie thread? I can't find the new one.

R460 Yes dear intern for Fallon, I will certainly go and sit down now that you've ordered me to.

R461 this is the current Armie thread.

r462 it is very likely that you are talking to regular Tims troll. Cos this person (r460) is banned by me and even so i banned like a decent amount of crazy charmies this one writes (as long as i see in your quotes of his messages) just like the troll does. It is his style. He is subtle. You do not figure him/her out easily. But i bet it is the troll.

R464 Ah, thanks for the heads up. Honestly, the trolls are getting out of hand and as much as I like to be bitchy, I'm going to stop taking anyone's bait until we get regular content and the trolls are kept at bay.

it is funny that Tim does not do anything at all. Like he keeps the lowest profile and there is still so much talk about him on twitter. This doll for example. Then now CMBYN has the 1000th round of controversy about the age gap and how the director is straight (lol) then BTA member with his music recap, then Little lies 2nd season and vision of Gideon. I mean at this point Tim does not need even exist. The shit will flow

BTS member*

And Dummy is cool. It apparently took 9 months to make. The guy who did it is a talent. Wish him all the best

they spoke to the maker, he's a stan lol

R466 its kinda funny how he is SO off the radar right now, but still anything at all relating to him blows up, its crazy. Although I think the fact he is so low key probably makes it worse cause people are just desperate to find anything at all to write and talk about, he's clickbait. I hope he keeps being low key just in general and not just during filming, it's the best way to be when you've got people taking every single little thing relating to you and making into a big deal. That and the mystery he has which is great. Both excited and dreading dune promo lmao

Timothee is going to have his own creepypasta soon enough. He's soo gonna have to talk about this doll when he does promo in the fall.

R462 and R464, i probably care about Timmy’s career more than the both of you! You both just can’t stand any hint of negativity about him. You both are the creeps and I’m glad he can never come in contact with delusional idiots like you both. You both are the trolls.

R441, I can imagine Tim with his long skinny legs wrapped around Armie's waist while they lie in bed in post-coital daze. And Tim taking advantage of the situation by asking Armie to please put in a good word for Cudi and LRD with the director or the producer.

Omg, please tell me someone did NOT pay $122,000 for that Timmy doll. I can't even. For that creepy, ugly ass thing? WTF would you even do with it?

R473 More info on the doll.

R463 Thanks for the link!

r473 unimaginable things

Yeah, I don't think I want to know what things, r476.

R476 LOL!!

R472 armie did put in a good word for Lily and Cudi. But Timmy pushed for it when Cudi was banging him senseless.

the draught is really here when even this stupid chats are almost empty. Damn.

as boring as things are rn it's good the threads slowed down and not filling up with pointless repeated arguments, baiting & trolls

It used to take a day or two to fill up a Timmy thread, now it takes longer than Armie feeding him his enormous dick.

New pics of Timmy in Budapest yesterday, his hair's so big. Funny how he always appears after Armie does.

Timmy was at Josh Holland’s birthday dinner with his other co-stars

Awww look at that happy smile. Loving this drought.

Btw the guy sitting in front of Timmy used to be Heath Ledger's dialect coach. Now he's working with Oscar Isaac.

I'd like to see drunk Timmy after few glasses of red wine

new video of armie with his favorite ride (the inanimate one)

If you zoom in on Timmy's right arm in this new pic, it looks as though he has a tattoo peeking out just below his sleeve. Someone on IG mentioned that it's a shadow, but when I zoomed in it didn't look like a shadow to me.

Armie looks fantastic in those modeling videos. Would love some more set pictures of Rebecca

I can totally see Timmy getting a hugeass arm tattoo. Not. Probably a shadow, maybe a bruise?

Yeah, no, it's not a tattoo. Doesn't even look like one.

R489 not sure he'd all of a sudden get a big ass tattoo right on his arm lol. It 100% looks like a shadow

He really has been looking well during dune. Maybe it's how he usually looks during filming movies, I'm comparing to how kinda rough he looked pre king but he probably looked more well while filming it, he'll take care of himself more during

Armie does the thing with the bicycle seat getting off just like he did as Oliver in CMBYN, cute!

it's not a bruise, too circular. that being said, I think it's just a shadow.

also someone's getting a spanking if he really get himself a big tattoo without daddy's permission

Armie looks incredibly hot in that video. And so does Timmy in the dinner pic! Nice to see him with a big smile on his face, Dune must be going well.

He looks good physically but mentally something was off at one point right before Cannes, either pissed off or really tired.

R497 what gave that impression?

Timmy can get a few small, meaningful tattoos in some strategic places. That can be hella sexy. No uglyass big stuff though, please! (not that he ever would)

Yeah before Cannes he didn't look that happy. Since Cannes he's been glowing too. What a difference from last year's sloppy looking, hiding under cap, sm blackout, no pics please Timmy. Says a lot about his current mental state and mood and I'm really glad he's in a good place.

Thanks for the new pic. :) He's looking as beautiful as ever. - sigh - If Armie really is hitting that he's the luckiest man alive.

Armie's seen him drunk, r487. Probably even fucked him while he was drunk. lol

I wonder if Timmy has seen that video of Armie?

They both look good. I want to see more Rebecca set pics

Sorry if posted

They've got his gestures and mannerisms down pat that's for sure, r504. lol

Well who had just got to Europe the week Timmy went to Cannes looking all happy. Interesting how Will left the next week, doesn't Timmy need him around anymore? Then both off the radar for two weeks only to reappear on the same day. All a coincidence like usual, I'm sure.

R506 what are you talking about?

I was thinking Will would rejoin at some point for the remaining months, but there's apparently only a month left so maybe not? Or some other friends visit. They're wrapping a lot sooner than I was expecting, and leaving it very last minute to announce the remaining cast. If they wrap july then timmys gonna have a lot of time between then and BOTT which looks like the next project.

I don't think it's been confirmed anywhere that BOTT is going to be his next project, r508. But I'd love it if it was.

R509 no it hasn't, it's just he's most definitely in it and I can't see there being a project between dune and BOTT...you never know though

if TIm will have that much time on his hands what he is gonna do? Long holidays or maybe a play?

He does not have anything lined up for sure after Dune, has he? huh, makes a change over the past 2-3 years. He filmed CMBYN in summer 2016 plus Hostiles and Lady Bird in late 2016, then ARDINY and BB in 2017, then The King and LW in 2018, and TFD and Dune in 2019. He has been working constantly, phew.

R511 Tim will surely be in England with his "sweet Armie" spending a summer in a big way. I hope Elizabeth does not come over there.

Elizabeth is a woman plated the old way. In an interview she said that she used Chloé, the old version, this fragrance is from 1975, with that I'm already saying everything. The bakery, with the cupcakes, is more of the same. It's impossible for any film producer or director to take Armie Hammer seriously if he goes around with a woman like that, they're sure to laugh at him. And to top it off, to go matchmaker with everyone around her is the last straw. I think he would have to fix his marriage first, and I doubt very much that at this point there is nothing he can solve, before planning to marry anyone.

Liz will do whatever she needs to stay married to Armie for as long as possible and if that includes looking the other way, I'm sure she has no problem doing it no matter how much she doesn't like it.

R513 Elizabeth said she's going to London on Summer. I hope Timmy will not

Die in a grease fire you pedo cunt fucks.

[quote] she's going to London on Summer

Oh, dear

R516 No, please, I hope she stays away this summer and leaves with her friends on a yacht cruise like she does every summer. I say, Timmy will take advantage of one of those boat trips from Elizabeth to be with Armie, or at least I hope so even though they will not let us know.

I’m sure Timmy has already taken advantage of Armie a few times this summer.

I love the relationship between Armie and Timmy (whatever they both have). It is no longer about being gay or straight, a relationship of friendship or passion and sex, it is everything, and much more. That's why these threads were created, and all the threads that exist in social networks and Google. I do not give a damn about Armie's marriage or the PR relations of Timothée Chalamet. From the beginning of the filming of CMBYN, until the last day of the promotion was something magical, unrepeatable.

What happens is that now I see and understand why Elizabeth is so hysterical these days, and today she has been massive with the video she has shared about Armie. If his plans are to spend the summer on a set (and I hope he does not) dragging two small children and sharing photos of each moment, I predict a divorce at the end of summer, because Armie, with all the defects that he may have, has a very good thing in their favor, and is that it is a very private person. In addition already begins to notice in his face the burden that he feels.

(just copied the translation from someone on tumblr idk if it's totally accurate)

eC: And what about the sequel to the cinema? Everyone seemed very willing to do it, but after Armie said it was better to let it be and Luca said he would wait to read ‘Find Me’ to make a final decision. What is the current status of ‘Call Me by Your Name 2’?

Aciman: You have explained it well. At first, Armie and Timmy said that if a sequel was made, they would count on them for sure. And Luca said he was going to do it in two or three years, like the saga of Antoine Doinel [by François Truffaut]. Then they started to cool down. Timmy has not even spoken about it. Armie said flatly that he was going to do it, and now he says he is not sure, and that maybe it is not done. Luca said he was going to wait to read 'Find Me’ … And at this point I made a decision. I would love it if there was a second movie, without a doubt, but I do not know if these people are committed to it. Although the door is open

Do you have a creative relationship with Luca?

Aciman: No. I have spoken with him a couple of times a year, but by coincidence, because we have attended the same event. We share a few words, and that’s it. There is nothing to concrete. He is busy, and so am I.

eC: And with Timothée and Armie do you keep in touch?

Aciman: No. They are always scattered around the world.

Again, no new info, but andre seems tired of everyone being so wishy-washy about the sequel and I don't blame him. It would've been so much better had everyone (especially luca) held off making claims and promises about the sequel when they had no real agreements or solid ideas, just a 'we'll see' and leave it at that. I'm not sure it'll happen at all, maybe a good few years down the line

The only reason Armie needs Elizabeth is because she is the last thing that keeps the rumors about him and Timmy from spiraling completely out of control. With Timmy being perpetually single, the LRD mess that implicated everyone involved, all the speculation swirling around even with Armie being married, if Armie were to divorce, it would be mayhem for them. I'm not saying that's the only reason he's still with her but they need some sort of buffer and I doubt Timmy is going to agree to beard again anytime soon. And I think Liz is down with anything as long as she gets to maintain her socialite-wannabe life, cause that's all she cares about at the end of the day.

yeah the more time passes the lesser the possibility CMBYN 2 will be made

I said this before that I don’t think there will be a sequel. I’m sure everyone was keen at one point but things are just too messy right now. Can you imagine filming the movie, which would already be fraught with so much craziness, and then sending Armie and Timmy out on another press tour together? They’d have to be masochists to agree to that and I think they realize that now.

Yeah, we as fans would love it but them probably not so much. It’s too bad if real life shenanigans get in the way of a much wanted sequel but they have to put their own needs first and the last thing they need is a million eyes watching their every breath for a year and making things even more difficult for them. It sucks but I get it.

What kind of nonsense? I don’t care if they are fucking, madly in love, engaged, or secretly married. They are actors. They get paid to act and be professional and to be able to separate whatever is going on in their personal life from their work. If they don’t want to do the sequel because they can’t do that or they’re too scared of the scrutiny then they need to get over themselves because that’s incredibly selfish and immature

Obviously this goes beyond Armie and Timmy. Luca and Andre have creative differences. Luca is probably not too thrilled with the way Andre is going about the sequel, he’d already envisioned his own stuff, and this interview makes it clear they haven’t collaborated.

Luca could end up doing something later on, adapting the novel his own way, James is for sure out, so... I guess is Luca who has to decide eventually. Timmy and Armie would say yes, I think, but only if Luca is behind it. I feel like it could take more than 3 or 4 years to materialize, if it happens at all. At least now we know they are definitely not on the same page.

Too many issues. They should just leave it alone. They’ll never be able to recreate the magic and innocence of the first one anyway and that’s what made it so special. Any sequel will end up being a disappointment.

r529 Andre and Luca have creative differences? Where'd you dig that up? Andre's been writing. Luca's been making movies. Maybe after the book is published they might have creative differences, but don't speculate about something that's not real (I know, I know, its DL where everyone just tosses out whatever shit they think up -- I know, I'm the guy who made up the Brazilian stan earlier this year).

Anyway, if it happens, it happens. I want it, badly, but its not in my control. And the way this movie was hijacked by the Tumblr girls makes it all the less likely from an artistic standpoint. Remember the Sabbath, keep it holy. Goodbye.

Did anyone read the rest of the interview? Some people are pretty upset because Aciman said he’s attracted to 12 year old girls.

[quote]eC: In relation to that, there is a story in 'Enigma Variations' about a 12-year-old boy discovering himself sexually through his desire for an older boy. Of course, nothing happens between them, but are not you worried that it could be misinterpreted?

[quote] : No, I do not care. The other day talking to a friend, I said "I see 12-year-old girls and I already find them attractive", and he said, "Me too, but you can not talk about it". And I answered, "no, never." Because if you talk about it, you're almost guilty of it. I do not commit the act, but you have no idea of ​​the creepy and disgusting ideas that go through our heads. How could he have thought something like that? But it is what happens in our mind. One of the things I do in my prose is to let the reader feel that he can undo the taboos and realize that, if I can talk about the peach, it is because you have a peach in your life. You have also done something crazy like that. And if you have not done it, what kind of human being are you? We all explore in life.

R531 That is something that you can easily infer when you have heard Luca talk about the sequel. He's had some ideas in his mind, about where it should take place, how Oliver wife is, the Aids epidemic. Andre wrote his own thing, I think Andre feels this characters belong to him, and maybe rightfully so, now Luca is saying he will decide about the movie after reading the book, you don't have to be a genius to see that there could be a potential disagreement there, specially looking their lack of communication.

R532 That's a terrible way to sabotage your own work.

OH god, Andre Aciman, stop talking!! CMBYN has largely escaped controversy over the age gap because of film twitter's boner for it and because people stan Timothee like crazy and want him to succeed. If Andre keeps making statements like this, coupled with Luca's HBO project where a 14 year old has a crush on an older soldier... all it takes is one "woke" blogger to take this up and soon many lemmings will follow... Like not everything that goes thru your head needs to be voiced...

Ugh CMBYN is an amazing film, DONT make ppl turn on it through statements like this!!

honestly , clutching pearls too much? its basically what he is saying, yes you can think that a 12 years old is beautiful, it doesnt mean you are a monster, have ever seen the movie thirteen? the politic correctness is killing everything, aevrybody has to be pristine to be admired, bitch pls

R535 Ya, tell that to the twitter mob squad. The whole age gap thing got resurrected recently with one twitter thread because some account tweeted CMBYN as a gay film for pride month. Actual journalists will take cues from these outrage threads sometimes so its better to not give them reason, all it takes is for one thread to go viral. People forget that context matters and nuance is a thing. All 17 and 24 year old relationships are not equal, some might be abusive and some are not. Elio and Oliver's relationship is not manipulative or grooming in the least, it's beautiful and affectionate and based more on the meeting of minds rather than bodies, but woke armchair warriors who havent even watched the movie will do anything for retweets and internet brownie points. I just dont want this controversy rehashed or this film's legacy tainted in any way.

Oh, and you can appreciate the beauty of 12 year old girls but calling them attractive out loud in an interview is creepy, or at least unnecessary.

R535 No, that's not the culture we live in. If you go around giving interviews saying things like this, you have it coming.

Is this the pedophiles weekly meeting today? No adult in their right mind would find a 12 year old attractive, you disgusting people. I'm not at all surprised about Aciman though, he's always seemed to be a pathetic man who thinks way too highly of himself.

Ya honestly IDGAF about Aciman in anyway, just dont come for CMBYN or Timmy, let them be in peace....

Aciman literally says “you have no idea the creepy and disgusting things going through our heads” - thats way beyond saying you find a 12 year old beautiful. Wish I never read this about him, was always an aciman fan but this is a line you dont cross.

This is about society sexualizing young girls and it has been around a long time. The modeling world has always dressed up girls as young as 12 and 13 in sexy outfits. And look at the acceptance of someone like Jerry Seinfeld who dated a high school girl when he was pushing 40

R518 Você certamente é no mínimo uma biba asiática cor cordium que não entende inglês e muito menos as verdades, foi a senhora mocreia quem disse aquilo, vai reclamar com ela e pedir biscoito em outro lugar!

Twitter mob squad is a worse threat to humanity than Aciman saying 12 y.o is "attractive" with the meaning of the word being lost in translation from his brain to readers', but everyone prioritise differently. as long as Timmy's career is unscathed, I couldn't care less.

i guess nobody has seen death in venice, lucky visconti , nowadays, he couldnt survive, i think the interview is decontextualized, i think aciman said the 12 years old and horrible things like 2 separated issues, but edition and translation, yes we , as a humans could think horrible things, have you ever think about kill someone? o whish someones death? pls , we are capable of the worst and imo yes i can found a 12 years old beautiful, is just a appreciation of the human beauty

I told my sister-in-law about CMBYN and what a beautiful movie it was. She'd never seen it. So I told her she should. But then she found out what it was about and she literally said to me, "this is a movie where a 24 year old man and a 17 year old boy have sex? That's disgusting. I won't watch a movie about pedophilia." I swear I wanted to punch her. But instead I said, "oh well, your loss."

CMBYN is so special because not only are you watching a beautiful love story unfold between the two characters but you’re also watching Armie and Timmy fall in love. Their rl relationship and chemistry just brings everything to another level.

Elizabeth said she's going to London on Summer. I hope Timmy will not.

Yes, unfortunately Liz is packing up the kids and will be in London soon. She was just waiting for Harper's graduation to take place before leaving LA. Well, in London, maybe she'll be too busy shopping and posting on IG so that Armie and Timmy can still have some alone time together if possible.

R547 She's going to Disney, according to her storie, but there's a Disney in France, maybe she's taking the kids to Europe. I don't know, please, somebody wake me when Liz disappear from this world or from Armie's world

r547 "maybe she'll be too busy shopping and posting on IG so that Armie and Timmy can still have some alone time together if possible." gawd you're so desperate.

R549 I think E is the most annoying twat ever and that is why I hate to see her around Armie msking him come across as an idiot in her bloody IG tacky bubble. I couldn't care less who he's shagging on the side as long as he's getting some to keep his sanity.

She sure makes him come across as dumb, bland, obnoxious, spoiled, you know all the things she is. He's started actually being attractive to me since he's been away from her and sm, just popping up here and there with his friends/alone/or just his kids looking really good and normal. And then the posed stuff with Liz and the tired Hammily narrative are just so embarrassing at this point and murders his appeal.

I was the one who posted the translation here, I only skimmed what he said in the questions before and JFC. Try to repackage it all you want, this is a 60 something yo man admitting to finding a 12 yo girl attractive which is disgusting. He wanted to make some point about people's dark nature & desires but ffs you can do that without admitting you find little girls attractive, what the fuck! Where on earth is his common sense, saying something like this when he's got a book coming out, which is the sequel to a book which already got accused of paedophilia. It's disturbing now knowing this is what the thinks.

I feel bad that there is bad blood between Andre and Luca with Timmy and Armie caught in the middle. It was clear that Luca was busy planning and writing the sequel he wanted. Elio was a Cinemafile and Oliver was married. Luca wants to film his vision and did to the anger of James Ivory also. So Andre went ahead and wrote a sequel. They are his characters that he created he should have some say on how thei lives play out and I am sure he and his publisher want a cut of the money he will now make on the book. So what happens if the book is released in October and is a big hit??

R552 there, there, go to voice your outrage on twitter, really you need get a life

R 553 that’s exactly the way I see it. I mean, how could we possibly have a book and a movie about the same characters but with completely different plots? Especially if they came out within a few years of each other? I can’t think of an instance where that has happened. I think Luca and Andre might have discussed where the characters would go but they just have completely different visions

Everything Aciman says in that quote is truthful, humans can't help looking at someone and having a reaction of some kind and that includes sexual. What makes us grown ups is how we act on it. What makes you NOT a grown up is freaking out about it when a quote is taken completely out of context. I'm old enough to remember when Brooke Shields was an overly sexualized 12 Year old and there was such outrage over Pretty Baby, but it wasn't a movie that condoned fucking little kids any more than Aciman's quote is. So put those wagging tongues to good use and go lick someone's ass.

I'm sure that if they EVER make a sequel it will be on their terms and Aciman won't really have a lot to say if his and Luca's visions differ greatly. He sold the rights of the first book so Luca can take the characters whatever direction he wants. And Timmy and Armie are with Luca, not Aciman.

Andre wrote an email clarifying: "While it is true I have no shame in writing about the sexuality and desires of adolescents, in no way do I feel those desires myself" Then the interviewer said he has him on tape and that he quoted him correctly. He knows he said something utterly stupid.

R553 Agreed. Aciman is the thirsty one here, first rushing with the book (a painfully obvious cash grab if you ask me, considering the way the original story ended) and now suddenly talking shit about Luca and the actors. CMBYN has become a classic and they need a damn good story, otherwise they may end up ruining it for many, many people. It seems like the film guys know this while Andre just wants it made, again, for obvious reasons.

R556 this

Where did he insult the actors? Certainly not in the excerpt from upthread, unless I am missing something.

R558 yes and he also said it was mildly edited for coherence, there is a fine line when you translate it , im a spanish native speaker and sorry but sometimes the spanish translations arent the best

Not a native speaker but I speak spanish too. Can someone please link the interview in spanish? Thanks.

I'm sorry the more I think about this the more I question it, makes you wonder about things that seemed innocent, like Oliver and Vimini's relationship. Looks like somethings can't be innocent at all eh? Would be nice to discuss somewhere you can have an actual conversation without being accused of being a pedo or part of "woke" twitter

R556 We'll happily go lick grown up's asses while you stay here and try to convince yourself that you're not a pedophile.

The CMBYN sequel sounds dire. Who cares about Oliver's father? Aids would have been far more interesting.

R556 go ahead and spend all day bending over backwards trying to make out what he said to be nbd or '''taken out of context'' but he point blank said, as a 68 year old man, that he was attracted to a TWELVE year old girl. The context around it with the point he wanted to made, does not change the fact he admitted his attraction to a TWELVE year old girl.

"go lick someone's ass" An old ass man who willingly admitted to finding kids attractive is JUST the person for you to waste your time defending! because oh, its not like he'd act on it so its all fine! he just said it to make a point! Some of you are really exposing yourselves.

R556, why does it surprise you to discover that anonymus23, aka the PR Oracle from the Sam Heughan threads, has pedophile leanings? He lusts after Timmy in CYBMN ffs.

R565 probably the pedo is you, if you are so pressed about it, go to see nymphomaniac vol II, there is a interesting dissertion about it, maybe could help you to expand your mind, not everything is black and white

R568 how disgusting you are, you are absolutely repulsive.

Some of you are the lowest and vile thing I've ever seen in my life. Tim should go in and see what goes through these threads, it would be a good cure for his alleged "homosexuality", if he were.

And before any idiot comes in and accuses me of "homophobic", I answer directly, you are not gay, you are trash disguised as gay who think they have the right to disrespect everyone and then they use the gay resource . I am gay, and my friends, and nobody distils so much evil. I have not messed with anyone, I have gotten into these threads and I have been labeled as a pedophile, IDIOTS and also, RACISTAS, that you mess with people who speak Spanish.

...are you done

this girl on Tumblr said Timmy broke his arm yesterday filming

Huh? Not sure what you're linking there.

R547 of course she’s rushing to London she’s not about to leave her husband at the mercy of Henry Cavill’s bubble butt!

just curious wasnt around here or twitter at those time. Was hannibal fandom with real actors as wild as charmie?

R577 No it wasn't. People were wild for will/hannibal but they didn't bother the actors with shipping of them or anything like that.

Timmy is now following John P Shanley Prodigal Son's screen writer and director, I thought he was following him a long time ago since he was a twitter regular.

idrc I just love that he shows he's alive now and then even if he's not posting.

The way he's gesturing with his hand from 1:42 - 1:49 I get gay vibes from him. Gays, what do you think?

Pretty soon.

Timmy is very pretty and delicate but he's not effeminate so it's hard to judge his sexuality based on his mannerisms. I'd say other things going on in his life are much more conclusive and to me definitely point to him being not straight. In the end it doesn't even matter because Timmy himself doesn't believe in labels as the westerners see them and I highly doubt he's ever going to say anything about it one way or the other. I think he's just gonna live his life like he wants to live it in private, hopefully with no more bearding.

R583 He seemed to believe in labels as the westerners see them when he was on Ellen and she introduced him as a straight guy.

Sure, his totally deadpan look is definite proof he believes in labels.

"when SHE introduced him as a straight guy" lol was he meant to reply "well, actually..." on national tv? or blacklist mention of him being straight? He didn't even reply/confirm it

Whatever he identifies as privately, we'll never hear of it because it's clear from the publicised 'relationship' that him and/or his people want people to ASSUME he is straight. He was ridiculously quick to get a public GF after cmbyn was done, it's clear what they want for him and I don't think that will change anytime soon. The best route he can go down is never refer to himself as anything or talk about relationships, he can let most people assume he's straight, let others speculate otherwise which adds interest, and never have to outright lie if he is in fact not straight. That and actors keeping as much of their private life behind closed doors is just in general the best way to go. Pap walks aside I think timmys done a pretty good job of that so far and I hope he sticks with it.

New pics! Tim is in Milan with Brandon Flynn at the Versace show. They're hooking up for sure.

Cam you link the pics and is his arm broken?

R588 trolls. Cmon now

R586 don’t be daft, Ellen would not have said he was straight if he hadn’t approved of her saying it or if it wasn’t public knowledge..she’s not in the business of declaring people’s sexuality without confirmation. As a gay woman, she wouldn’t just assume that he’s straight and then proceed to declare it. She of all people would be sensitive to such a thing.

[quote] if he hadn’t approved of her saying...

Not him, his people.

" lol was he meant to reply "well, actually..." on national tv? or blacklist mention of him being straight?"

Yeah, why the fuck not blacklist it? If he really isn't straight or doesn't believe in labels like "westeners", he should have made sure something like that doesn't happen. He's been able to blacklist mentions of LRD (barren this unfortunate incident at the GG which would never happened on a pre-planned show like Ellen) but somehow let slip that he's straight. No matter what delusional fangirls want to believe, Timmy is either straight or a coward. Granted his career had just started peaking back then which was probably nerve-wracking, we'll see how he handle the topic of his sexuality in the future. Though I must say hiring LRD as his beard is already a bad start.

R592 what I was getting at is that he's prioritising his career whatever his sexuality & opinions are. He'll care much more about his job than about people knowing his opinions on western labels. What ellen said doesn't say shit about his sexuality, especially with his response. He's still not gone so far as to actually say something HIMSELF. He'll have his reasons for that, we can only speculate and guess.

I'm not putting him on a pedestal, I'll accept that he'd chose getting good roles over risking anything at all with publicly discussing labels, sexuality, anything like that. He's been incredibly careful with his personal life & opinions. I personally don't think this makes him a coward at all, if this is in fact all about hiding how he isn't straight. Yeah, I was disappointed that we went down the fake relationship route for whatever reason, but he's one of many and idk what kind of pressures he has behind the scenes - a LOT happened following his dune casting. It was a bad start - but it's the start, he's barely 2 yrs into being properly known. Honestly I think he's had a hell of a lot to be anxious about post cmbyn, there's a lot to figure out and he's no coward for doing what's safe in this industry when he's only just starting out.

With you completely R593. He’s obviously playing the publicity game because he’s in this for the long haul. So he'll go along with Ellen *pointedly* affirming his straightness for the public, even though she is one of the doors for visible LGBTQ people in entertainment (I try very hard not to overanalyze this). He neither confirms nor denies. All the viewer gets is silence. And then there’d PR romance narrative with what's her face. When asked about it, he completely fumbles and doesn’t say anything. He doesn't want to lie (so silence is the route he chooses), but he is allowing a narrative to be framed because he wants to keep working. He really is doing what he has to do.

I can’t help but remember those comments on Twitter that said that anyone who believes Timmy would enter into a PR relationship is saying he’s a fraud and it’s crazy the pedestal he’s put on. He’s not a fraud. He’s not a coward for doing what he needs to do because he wants to keep working. The PR stunt was disappointing to watch, but it is what it is. Lots of other actors and singers are doing the same thing.

Whatever his sexuality is or isn’t, most (if not all) LGBTQIA people know what it's like to lie by omission or engage in some pretending for the sake of peace in their work lives. Or family life or whatever. No one knows what he’s really dealing with behind the scenes but his desires to not be photographed, not be noticed —- it looks like he has a lot of anxiety going and I don’t blame him for hiding.

[quote] He doesn't want to lie (so silence is the route he chooses), but he is allowing a narrative to be framed because he wants to keep working. He really is doing what he has to do.

a good sum up. Yeah, those fans talking about how he'd never fake something for publicity because he's no fraud or he can't lie, good lord the naivety...

Even if he’s not fully straight, his life would still be a bit easier if he was dating a young, single guy his own age. It wouldn’t be easy, but it would be easier. It wouldn’t require *this* much cloak and dagger. But if he’s sleeping with Armie, then he’s chosen a path in his personal life that makes everything even more complicated and difficult than it would be otherwise. All the hiding and secrecy probably wreaks havoc on his already anxious mind. I don’t blame him for getting a beard, though. I don’t think he had much of a choice when he hadn’t been publicly seen with a girl since high school and the speculation about his sexuality/personal life was getting out of control. He had to try to manage the situation somehow and LRD was an easy choice.

It would be so much easier if he was dating someone who did not have any baggage. If - and this is a big If because the evidence pointing to it is gigantic and overwhelming at this point - he is dating Armie then it’s worth it to him. Look at Richard Madden and Brandon Flynn. Traveling the world together (word is they’re both in Milan right now) and keeping their relationship private but not hiding on social media or in public. Richard confirmed it without confirming it by saying he keeps his relationships private. It’s weird to see that awful after seeing everything go down with Timmy and Armie.

All the lying and secrecy and hiding @R594 - I am exhausted and anxious for him.

Adding a 'yep' to what r596 & r597 just said. Hurts my head and heart for him (yeah I know) because that's probably how it will always be with Armie. Plus, he has to deal with pesky Liz. I mean if Liz were normal or even like say LRD, instead all her lies, thirst and bullshit. It's like non stop with her. God[italic]damn[/italic] it must be exhausting to be involved in all that craziness. If they're together, Armie better make up for all that heavy baggage he's dragging with him.

[quote] If because the evidence pointing to it is gigantic and overwhelming at this point - he is dating Armie then it’s worth it to him

The evidence is zero outside of the make believe nonesense on this thread.

It seems to me tremendously hypocritical and unfair that these two use women as a cover. If Armie did this to Elizabeth, he would be a tremendous "son of a bitch." If you do not want her to be separated, because a momentary pain is preferable to being using a person as a cover, do not you think ?! In addition, what will Tim do, marry a woman, father children with that woman, and live as a postal family to continue sleeping with "your Armie" ?! All this is crazy from beginning to end.