British Royal Family Gossip: Part 55

Those are amazing earrings on Princess Marina at post 600 on the prior thread. Yowza! A shame they had to sell them to pay the death duties.

Shame on me. I forgot to mention Lady Gabriella Windsor's wedding this weekend in my opening post.

re Camilla's gorgeous massive ruby and diamond necklace, below, a gift from the Saudis: is this considered a 'personal' gift in the sense that she owns it outright, and can pass it down to her own daughter Laura after her death? Or does it become part of the Royal Jewel collection, that will go to future Kings/Queens of the UK?

Camilla's large feathered pepto-bismol pink confection she was wore at Haz & Megs wedding was amazing (the photo for this was at r481 in the prior thread). Kate was seated next to her in an equally saucer-like yellow hat. I think they agreed to wear largish hats that day so they could smirk at each other re the proceedings and not be seen on camera doing so.

Photos of Princess Michael of Kent, Princess Alexandra of Kent and Prince William of Gloucester.

Link to pics of Princess Marina's gorge Girandole chandelier earrings:

Lady Gabriella Windsor will marry hunky Thomas Kingston on May 18 at St George's Chapel Windsor.

The Kents also have the Ogilvy tiara. I'm don't care for the turquoise: I've seen too much bad southwestern jewelry in my time to regard that stone as anything but downmarket.

Photos of various members of the Royal Family at Buckingham Palace for the Duke of Edinburgh Gold Awards.

Edward's hat brim is too wide for his narrow face.

Shame the wedding won’t be televised. I’m in the mood for a hat parade.

It is R10, but I guess people would rightfully moan if it was, too. I do love a live Royal wedding, though. Any excuse for early cocktails in this house.

We will have a party in here, anyway, and grab as many live updates and hat pictures as we can.

R11 - We'll doubtless get to see arrivals as they occur with HELLO and the DM and the Express on the job. Perhaps not live feed but certainly photos as the royals roll up, and the bride and her parents. I agree, though, I could use a truly relaxed royal wedding on the order of Peter Phillips'. Are they doing beautiful Frogmore House for the reception? How interesting if so, with the Harkles so close by. Is the guest list fully announced yet?

No full details yet, I believe. And I have been searching, lol.

We'll get a shot of the bride and groom after the ceremony on the steps of St. George's, much like we did with Peter and Autumn Philips and Lady Helen Taylor years ago. The Queen is attending (imagine that! she usually never goes to weddings of remote relatives) so there will be a press presence.

According to VOGUE Au - "The reception will be held at the same venue the Duke and Duchess of Sussex held their wedding reception, Frogmore House. A Palace spokesperson reportedly said the venue has “personal resonance” for Lady Gabriella and Kingston."

Yuge and Jack are rumoured to be on the guest list, as well as Pippa and James, which means that Kate and William are also likely guests, and BP has already announced that the Queen will attend.

Just a note re Gayle King and the supposed interview. CBS News does NOT pay for news or interviews.

R17, they may not pay money, but I assume there will be some quid pro quo. Meghan doesn’t do anything for free.

Not much here that we don't already know. But....a pre-wedding read to get us in the mood.

I hope one of the enthusiasts here will post fun photos from Lady Gabriella’s wedding. Pretty please.

It would certainly give rise to delicious gossip if the Harkles, living a stone's throw from both church and reception, aren't guests if people farther off, like Pippa, are, let alone the Queen, Kate, William, Eugenie, and Beatrice?

My guess is that Harry will attend but without MeAgain, who will only be three weeks out from childbirth.

Wait - wasn't Kate also barely out of childbirth when she attended the Sussex wedding?

But that was different, it was her brother-in-law, and the family I don't doubt were ordered to put a unified front.

This is only a cousin of Harry's and a private citizen . . . Meghan can justifiably stay home, although it will seem odd given the proximity.

They don't have to pay in this case r17, since interest will be very high and so then will ad revenue for the piece when it airs.

I just can't understand though - why not go with a UK outlet? Someone from Sky, or the BBC? Surely they know someone there they trust and like enough to do an interview. It will leave a sour taste in the mouths of the British media to see this go to an American 'journalist' (in quote because Gayle King isn't exactly a trained journalist herself).

Markle only follows the money, money will be involved.

If Markle IS Strong Write on Twitter, you'll see why no British outlets are involved.

R22 - "It will leave a sour taste in the mouths of the British media to see this go to an American 'journalist' (in quote because Gayle King isn't exactly a trained journalist herself)."

Meghan and Harry have, since the year before their engagement, made a speciality of pissing off the British press.

Their indifference to it at this point adds to my suspicion that they have no intention of remaining in the BRF, and that the BRF know it and will indulge them for a couple of years and then wave sadly Bye Byes when the Sussexes thankfully depart for warmer climes.

Did you know that they gave King Richard III a funeral a few years back after archeologist Phillippa Langley found the remains in Leicester? Sophie Wessex attended.

R19 - That article contains the interesting tidbit that the groom and Pippa dated in 2011 after her breakup with Alex Loudon (whose Mum sweetly described Pips as "not wife material" - one can only imagine Carole M's reaction at seeing THAT in print!).

I wonder if the mother of the bride will wear her blackamoor brooch again . . .

Gabriella reminds me a bit of Princess Anne.

R26 - The discovery of the much (and unfairly) maligned RIII's remains in a car park was one of the greatest stories that year. There was a huge fight over where he would be interred. The woman who identified the spot had been obsessed with RIII for years.

The saintly Thomas More did everything he could to blacken the ill-starred Richard's name, with one ear cocked toward the victorious Tudors (and much good it did him when he finally pissed off Henry over his marriage to Anne Boleyn), and the Bard's subversive play did the rest. It was as much as anyone's life was worth then to say anything good about Richard, who was rather a fine man but a terrible politician.

And no, he didn't do it. My bet is on Buckingham.

R21, good observation.

Are the Harkles really at Frogmore, though?

Also, I wonder if Doria is still lurking about.

And further re Philippa Langley, who belonged to the Richard III Society, she said: “I don’t think more senior Royals were ever going to come. They claim their right to the throne from the Tudors and they are still referring to Richard as the usurper king on their website."

Langley is quite right. Richard's family, the Yorks, had the better claim, and the Tudors spent a couple of generations at least persecuting what was left of the Yorks, forbidding them to marry, occasionally assassinating promising senior members, exiling them, etc., to ensure that no rebellion could be formed around the remnants.

The fact that there even is a Richard III Society reminds me of that saying, "There will always be an England."

Has the christening been scheduled? How far out do they typically do it? How long does it typically take to announce godparents? How many godparents are typically appointed?

Josephine Tey's Daughter of time is a very good read and led to the discovery of Richard III 's remains - indirectly of course

R32 - The christening is usually about three months after the birth and if she is expected, takes the Queen's schedule into account. Expect a late June-early July christening, as with Charlotte and Louis. I expect the Mulroney woman and Amal Clooney and/or possibly Zara Tindall to be selected as godmothers. I expect Harry to pull in a couple of his aristo buddies as godfathers in order to lessen the impression that he and Meghan aren't part of those circles any longer.

Louis was born third week in April, christening was second week in July. Charlotte was born early May, christening was first week in July.

George was christened in late October, I think, after being born in July. The Queen attended George's and Charlotte's christenings, but not Louis's.

R33 - Tey's book was one of my earliest ventures into historical novels, and is a treat - an easy read.

This is the fun bit in the The New Yorker about the discovery, although I'm still not sure if I believe it:

"The discovery of the monarch’s remains after half a millennium was an improbable archeological feat, sparked in part by a writer named Philippa Langley, who was researching a screenplay about him. Langley, by her own account, was walking through an empty parking lot, when she felt a chill and decided that she was standing on Richard’s grave. She then spent years persuading a University of Leicester team to do the dig and a group of Ricardians—people convinced that Richard’s reputation has been unfairly maligned for centuries—to fund it."

Eventually, the dig got funded and, what do you know . . .

Uma Thurman could certainly play Princess Michael.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R36, thank you for putting your finger on it! (That what she said) I was trying to remember who she reminded me of...

Harry looks like diarrhea in the photo at r37. Holy moly. He looks as though the life force has been drained from him.

Will there be a christening? (At least one where BP sets up a photo call and professional family portraits are released afterwards? ) I think the reason we got the photo with HM, PH and Doria is because there won't be a "public" christening and this was the compromise. The BRF would not be interested in taking photos with whatever celebrity climber MM drags in. They won't say that's the reason, but it will be. They'll merely say they want the occasion to be "private".

Lady Gabriella Windsor wore golden leaf earrings to Charles' 70th party. Her brother Frederick resembles his mother and Ella looks more like her father.

Photos of Lady Gabriella Windsor.

Some lovely photos of Ella. She has a look of her aunt Princess Alexandra of Kent too.

R42, she certainly has that aristocratic tall thin blonde thing going on. She and her brother have gorgeous green eyes.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Are the "main" royals likely to attend Gabriella's wedding?

Comments from the link at r45:

“You would think from this site that MM spends all her free time at Soho House, when she likely hasn't been there in years. New7433 pearlsknittingneedle, Oxford, United Kingdom, 2 days ago No way, she doesn't need to learn a living anymore.”

R46 - THE main royal is confirmed, the Queen. If she's going, it's likely Kate and William are, as well. My guess is that the York girls will be there, and the Gloucesters (the Dukes of Kent and Gloucester are brothers). Couldn't take a guess on Anne and the Phillips - or, the Sussexes. They live right there so their absence, even . with a new baby, would be somewhat glaring. Perhaps Harry without MeAgain.

Sorry about that: the Dukes of Kent and Gloucester (pronounced "Gluster" for you Yanks) are first cousins, their fathers were brothers.

R26, he even got a nice funeral crown.

Best comment from R45 link " I didn't realise Soho House was a brothel ".

Latest UK public popularity poll sees a dramatic drop for Meghan: Now half as popular as Kate

Considering she's just had a (usually popularity-boosting) baby, this is quite something. People really, really don't like her.

Will check out the strong write twitter.. sounds nuts.

R52 - That's an interesting poll - it's Opinium, not some fly by night operation, and it shows a definite shift in the wind that probably took awhile to take root. In addition to Meghan slipping from sixth in you.gov's March poll, it puts William ahead of Harry for the first time.

It rather proves that Kate was right to stick to her persona as Meghan tried to rock boat - those of us who said that Meghan was the best thing ever to happen to Kate were right. Meghan makes Kate look like Princess Perfect.

Here's an excerpt:

"MEGHAN Markle is only half as popular with the public as sister-in-law the Duchess of Cambridge, a poll has found.

The new mother might have expected a huge bump in popularity in the survey, carried out after the birth of baby Archie. But only 39 per cent of those asked said they had a positive view of the Duchess of Sussex. By contrast, a massive 62 per cent backed Kate, 37, putting her just eight percentage points behind the Queen.

Meghan, also 37, has been a hit on Instagram through the profile she set up with husband Prince Harry.

But in reality, pollsters at Opinium found, she was the second least-liked female royal, after Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, who had a 24 per cent approval rating.

Courtiers think the study pierces Meghan's social media bubble.

One said: "If you only ever read what your followers say you end up with a very skewed view of the world."

Meghan only increased her public support when with Prince Harry, who was liked by 70 per cent."

The most popular royal in the 2019 Opinium Monarchy Tracker survey of 2,003 UK adults taken this month, was PrinceWilliam with a 73 per cent rating.

Prince Charles came in significantly lower on 40 percent, the same as his father, the Duke of Edinburgh.

. . .Overall, support for the British monarchy was high on 63 per cent. Priya Minhas at Opinium said: "As British politics remains turbulent and its place in Europe uncertain, it's good to see support for a longstanding British institution.""

I think the comment about seeing the world through social media makes for a skewed vision of reality was spot on.

After seeing Harry become the lapdog of a pretentious, fame-obsessed woman, people are now realizing their appreciation for stable and reliable (formerly "dull") William. "Relatable" Harry has made it obvious that he prefers to relate with celebrities rather than the commoners who supported him; the masses are pawns in the games he plays with the press.

I know she's only interested in building her US brand, but i bet it chaps Meghan's hide that she's less popular than Kate.

According to this royal "expert", Meghan isn't going to stay away from the limelight for long. Quelle surprise!

Very curious to see the Gayle King special on Friday. Do we know if Meghan herself will actually be interviewed or if it's just going to be the People story all over again - fawning "friends" making comments that sound suspiciously scripted and phony?

I hope we get Meghan herself interviewed because I am quite interested to see how she comes across. From my very first impressions of her when she was just being reported in the press to be dating H, her public speaking (speeches, interviews etc.) have been instantly cloying and off-putting. She has a very breathy, self-consciously girlish voice and manner and if she's smart (which everyone says she is, and which I doubt, although this is not to say I think she's a dummy) she'll have ditched those mannerisms for a more serious and thoughtful bearing. Surely she of all people will be conscious of needing to come across as likeable? I say that, but I see no real signs, pre or post marriage, that she has any real understanding of how to do that. She's still in starlet mode, trying to project "sexy" and "fun" and "charming."

Speaking of sexy and fun (lol) why was there not more commentary here on that BBQ video she did for the men's mag? It was so cheesy it actually felt like an SNL sketch. I mean, she was openly licking her fingers and eye-fucking the camera throughout. Gold.

Also just want to agree with the poster(s) from the previous Part 54 who love Camilla's style, especially the headgear. It was at her wedding to Charlie that I had my first 'huh, she looks GREAT' moment with her. If anyone has a link to any albums of photos, I'm all eyes.

🐕💨

R17

The money will be the People pictorial. That’s why all you get on Instagram are feet with Diana’s favorite flower in the background.

The good photos will be in People.

If the numbers in that opinion poll are reflective of reality, it's a big deal that William is more popular than Harry, isn't it? Harry has been either the most popular royal or right up there for years now, iirc. Stans can weep and rend their garments all they want but I've been genuinely surprised by the number of friends (who generally wouldn't admit to any kind of interest in the RF) who have expressed a casual kind of dislike for Meghan. Not in-depth and well thought out dislike, but a kind of "she's awful, isn't she? maybe I'm being mean" thing that I find quite telling.

My guess is she/they will double down on their weird efforts to court the American public, rather than the British public, if it becomes clearer in the near future that they aren't popular or liked in the UK, and that she may even be damaging his popularity.

Do we really think we're going to get baby pics in a magazine? I'm here for it if so, because the reactions in the UK (media included) will be a bloodbath. It's actually why I don't think it's going to happen.

R62 - I'm interested on that score, as well. If they've given the first pics to a US based magazine, it will be tantamount to admitting they've failed completely with the UK press and are simply ditching them. They may think they may as well from a certain viewpoint, but if they do, bloodbath will be an understatement. The tabloids, especially, will not only take the gloves off, they'll burn them in the middle of Fleet Street and they'll make the Sussex's lives hell until they just leave.

So I rather agree - doubtful it will happen, and the poster upthread who mentioned the spectre of more of the treacly PEOPLE "We Love Meghan" story attempting to "set the record straight" is more likely.

In fact, a receptacle nearby to catch projectile vomit is probably a good idea.

R44 I also see that Strong Write claims HM loves Doria and “insists” she is a prominent, involved party.

I’m not by any means suggesting she doesn’t like her but loves and insists? Do many grandmothers have strong opinions, if any at all, about their grand in law’s mother?

Even in the royal family, that’s a level of relation you see maybe on Thanksgiving— and then, only if it is being held at your grandkid’s house and both sides are invited.

Neither of them have to much have any opinion of the other and it’s insane to think HM is invested beyond being glad she isn’t also running to tabloids.

So do we really think that the Wrote Life Twitter is MM?

R63 Don't tease me. The gloves being burned in the middle of Fleet Street? Good prince Haz has NO IDEA the shreds to which the tabloids will rip him and his ridiculous wife.

It's not gonna happen because the pics aren't gonna be in a magazine but, oh, I wish!

Thanks, R48. Will be interesting to see their outfits.

What's the old saying about not picking fights with people who buy ink by the barrel?

Will the UK press be angry merely at the Harkles or with the BRF family in general for allowing this to happen?

Some tiaras are quite versatile like this one called the Thai Diamond Fringe Tiara. Click and swipe for its history and the three ways it can be worn - fan, circlet and necklace. I always thought Queen Sirikit of Thailand was a stunner.

I remember the constant screaming headlines about Princess Diana in the summer of 1997. I can only imagine what the tabloids will do now, when the speed of media coverage has gone into hyperdrive with the internet. They could hound a person into a nervous breakdown--they nearly did that to Diana, and many of their journos actually LIKED her.

I've never been terribly fond of fringe tiaras myself--they remind me of the Statue of Liberty. I prefer Art Deco simplicity.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

According to Omid Scobie, whom MeAgain and Harry seem to employ as a mouthpiece, Kate and William will be visiting Archie tomorrow.

R72 - I share your admiration for the Art Deco stuff, but the fringe tiaras have grown on me somewhat, especially the Kokoshnik, which is less of a fringe and more like a solid diamond fence. I like the shape.

I have to say the Queen looked lovely in the fringe tiara at her wedding. Her daughter, not so much, although I adored the unusual medieval inspired dress - the sleeves were a masterpiece.

I would have preferred the Greek Key with Anne's dress.

For DL

Maybe Archie can go to this daycare

r65, I think there's a genuine possibility that it is her. Whoever is writing it is uniquely well-informed, well before the newspapers are, and the tone is so angry, seeing enemies everywhere, threatening Harkle's personal lawyers on various people, and is so imperious. If it's not her I'd actually be surprised.

PEOPLE.COM ROYALS By STEPHANIE PETIT, May 13, 2019 02:10 PM

Why Prince William Is Missing Lady Gabriella Windsor's Royal Wedding This Weekend

Kate Middleton, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will likely skip the family gathering as well – so who will attend?

There’s another royal wedding this weekend – but some key members of the family will miss the gathering.

One year after Prince Harry and Meghan Markle became husband and wife, Lady Gabriella Windsor is set to wed Thomas Kingston on May 18 in very similar fashion. Like the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (who wed on May 19, 2018), Lady Gabriella will walk down the aisle at St. George’s Chapel in Windsor Castle.

As the president of England’s Football Association, Prince William will attend the FA Cup final on Saturday. Although the game is a regular event for William, he skipped it last year while serving as best man to younger brother Prince Harry. Kate Middleton is not expected to attend this weekend’s wedding either.

It’s also unlikely that fans will see Meghan and Harry on their anniversary weekend. Though the wedding is nearby their home of Frogmore Cottage, they’ll be busy taking care of their newborn son, Archie Harrison, who arrived on May 6.

Still, the guest list will include many members of the royal family, led by Queen Elizabeth, who will undoubtedly wear one of her signature bright outfits. The 93-year-old monarch did not attend the wedding of Lord Freddie Windsor, the brother of Lady Gabriella (or “Ella” as she is known to pals), but that wedding did not take place at one of her royal residences.

Other royals to look out for? Princess Eugenie (and husband Jack Brooksbank) may return to her wedding venue with older sister Princess Beatrice and dad Prince Andrew. Prince Edward and his wife, Sophie, Countess of Wessex, are also expected to attend.

Lady Gabriella, who is the 38-year-old daughter of one of Queen Elizabeth‘s cousins, Prince Michael of Kent, is currently 51st in line to the throne (she’ll move down a spot when Harry’s baby arrives). She will also follow in Meghan and Harry’s footsteps by having her reception at Frogmore House. However, the party is set for the afternoon rather than the evening.

Lady Gabriella, a Senior Director at Branding Latin America, and Kingston, who works in frontier market investment, got engaged in August. Kingston popped the question on Sark, one of the Channel Islands just off the coast of France.

Prince Michael and his wife Princess Michael are “delighted” with the news, the palace said in a statement.

I agree, R74: The Greek Key would have looked lovely with Anne's dress. Or the Greville emerald, which has a bit of a medieval look to it.

R79 - Good God, look at the size of that emerald!

Re royal guests for this weekend's wedding, I forgot about the FA cup - William missed it last year because of the Sussex wedding, so he likely won't want to miss it two years running. But that doesn't mean Kate can't attend.

IKR? R80. If I were Eugenie, you'd pry that tiara out of my cold, dead hands.

Another emerald stunner: Queen Anne-Marie of Greece's emerald tiara. Part of a suite of emeralds.

William & Kate in the Seychelles, 2011

Her waist is so tiny it looks Photoshopped.

The best emerald tiara of all: The Duchess of Angouleme's tiara, worn by the daughter of Marie Antoinette. Also a favorite of the Empress Eugenie's. Now on permanent display at the Louvre.

Jeez! Kate looks like a Barbie doll!

Harry showing some princely abs.

Sorry to interrupt the tiara talk (I love it!), but something has been bothering me about that DM clip that was posted a few threads ago (I can't find it) where various H'wood people were being interviewed about the baby's arrival...specifically the female producer in blue. What bothered me was her mention of being a good Catholic. Was Meghan ever Catholic? Not that I can find (neither parent is). But then I remembered the rumors that she had an earlier marriage that was annulled, and who besides Catholics get marriages annulled? I don't know anything about the alleged earlier husband or his name, but am thinking the producer was hinting about him.

[quote]My guess is she/they will double down on their weird efforts to court the American public, rather than the British public, if it becomes clearer in the near future that they aren't popular or liked in the UK, and that she may even be damaging his popularity.

I think the corollary to that is true: if they keep doubling down with the American media to the exclusion of the British media and public, it will CAUSE them to lose any popularity and damage their reputations badly. It's not just the UK media that will have a field day on them, I think the British people in general (who read the papers) will get the clear picture in their heads as to where their loyalties lie and start to turn on them, perhaps quickly. Because after all, they are the ones funding their pricey lifestyle.

The crazies on other boards (that shall not be named here) are all up in the arms about the late birth cert controversy. They can't see what the Harkles are doing wrong here, why they can't 'have their privacy' and that any public request for basic information about Archie's birth is akin to invading their space and wanting to know Meg's most private medical information.

There's a real misconception and misinformation problem among Sussex stans re their public role, and what they specifically owe the British public as taxpayer funded royals. Of course private medical details are off limits, an idiot knows that. But date, place, time of birth, who delivered him: these are all basic details that have been issued before re newborn royals. There's nothing intrusive about these, in fact one might say it's 'owed' in the sense that the public will be paying for the upkeep on said baby for at least the next 21 years.

So, on the birth certificate, I wonder what was entered for Meghan's occupation. For the Cambridge kids, the birth certificates listed the mother's occupation as "Princess of the United Kingdom". Will Meghan want the same? Or, will it say "Actress"? Something more pretentious?

R88, there was so much to unpack in that woman’s interview. She knew some shit. And she wanted us to know she knew it.

I’d love to ply her with several cocktails and get her talking...

R91, “global humanitarian”? “Relentless social climber”?

R80, right? Why can’t Kate attend? I’d be leaving those kids with a sitter and going alone! Have some cocktails, dance a little... weddings are fun!

Taylor's emeralds - there's a big, gaudy ring to match - and some earrings, too - just sayin'

....

The entire set

[quote]I think they (Kate and Camilla) agreed to wear largish hats that day so they could smirk at each other re the proceedings and not be seen on camera doing so.

I wouldn't go that far, but that wedding was surely a. bonding experience for the lot of them. Camilla thought Diana was a "ridiculous creature." Imagine what she thinks of Megantoinette.

The Write Life Twitter sounds like a cult leader riling up cult followers.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R92 My take from the interview was she seemed to be insinuating that MM was an escort

Princess Michael did a bit of royal escorting when she traded sex for money with that Russian hoodlum seen above who was later murdered.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R101 Hope someone posts the link to the video.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R105 I’d say that the woman’s a little drunk, definitely implies that MM was an escort when she’s talking about selling off the caddies to the highest bidder, then towards the end realises that she’s gone too far and tries to back pedal.

Just the way she was laughing at the start, though - the implication to me is that she knew that MM was a piece of work.

Great clip!

I hope Meghan goes to Gabriela’s wedding, upstages the bride and incurs the wrath of Marie Christine.

She'll show up unannounced and start suckling the baby in front of other guests at the reception to show how woke she is

R108, your mouth to god’s ear.

Maybe Pippa going to the wedding means Kate and William won't. She's kind of stood in for them before, like when his ex-girlfriend Arabella Musgrave got married. It seems to be a rule to have your exes go to your weddings in that set, but Pippa went to Arabella's do and Kate/William didn't. Arabella didn't even get to know Pippa until after William and Kate were together.

R108, and Gayle King will just happen to be there to interview Meghan about the importance of breastfeeding.

Just because they’re distantly related there’s no reason for Gabriella to invite Harry to her wedding. She wasn’t invited to his.

Just think - would you feel any great obligation to invite your father’s cousin’s grandson to your wedding unless you had a personal connection?

Plus, Markle’s a grasping fuckwit - why risk it?

If I were princess Michael, I wouldn’t give a shot but about Harry and Meghan but I would definitely want William and Kate, the future king and Queen, present at my daughter’s wedding. Besides, they are family and neighbors. Who cares about the frog people?

The Harkles are betting everything on American media and nobody in America gives a flying fuck about them. Their axis of A listers is a bunch of people on the downward slide, influencer-wise, who must think that when losers band together they become winners. Gale King's Harry and Meghan Plus One special is going to belly flop. I read somewhere that Meghan's People magazine cover sell ok but it's to the same people who buy People at all - middle aged white women, which is not the young demographic she and he are pitching themelves towards. Nobody in the US cares about them. They need the British media more than it needs them, frankly. No matter how they insist on describing themselves are rock stars or superstars, they're not. They're notorious and, at the moment, well known, just like any reality star's moment in the sun. Tan Mom got a good run, if I remember. It's not elite company.

I’m sorry, Harry would seem ridiculous in LA.

R113 here / “give a shit about” Harry and Meghan. I’m tired.

Princess Michael is disliked by the other members of the royal family. She has consistently embarrassed them with her behavior (saying racist statements in public, taking money for making appearances, having an affair with a Russian gangster, etc)

Maybe Gabriella is liked. The queen is going to the wedding.

I'd be very surprised if Gale interviewed Meghan or Harry. She's going to get her fellow shower-attendees on camera - Serena for sure, the Clooneys probably. She'll do a stand-up outside KP or Windsor. It'll be a lot of what a fabulous daddy Harry will be, how Meghan has transformed him. The whole thing is in the can already. How long was Gale in the U.K. this last time - five seconds? Not enough for "royal" interviews. Just enough for a B role of, "From London, Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have (insert B roll because Gale would have had to record this part later) a baby boy."

R114-Good point. Markle is aligning herself with people who were big when she was coming of age - Clooney, Oprah and by extension King. Clooney might just have pulled in 40 million for coffee ads, but at the end of the day, he's old. His star is dimming. Same with Oprah and King. The young generation just doesn't care. But Meghan hasn't been smart enough to figure out who will be important in 5 years' time. She's still mentally stuck in a time when she was memorizing Diana's biography. Even her photo of the baby's feet and the forget-me-nots is so 1990s, it's cringe-worthy. For someone who likes to think she's so work and current, she's terribly dated.

The only royals americans care about are the main ones, aka the queen, and the younger ones with william&kate+the kids.

And in other news Skippy of the infamous "Skippy is here to stay" has gone and left. She (he?) has vanished. Perhaps the nervous breakdown started after the Darren doll became unavailable and poor Skippy just skipped town for the funny farm.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Skippy was to the left of Pluto for sure, but no one here knew his/her posts from the rest until certain posters went on a rampage to point them out. It took up half of the last thread and was very annoying, more annoying than this Skippy persons's crazy theories.

Apparently the tumblr got shut down by a lawyer threat, or so twitter says right now.

R119 Do you think so, re: the Gayle King interview and Megs not appearing? I'm upthread saying they definitely won't appear in a magazine spread to reveal Archie to the peasants, but Oprah and Gayle have been working haaaaard since before the wedding to kiss some Hazbean ass. I can't imagine that wasn't without purpose. Do you think that was worth it for a non-appearance in a fawning interview? On the one hand I think you're right and Megs won't appear - it would just be such a bad look (like that's been stopping her, though). On the other hand I don't know why O and Co. would invest in this nobody-until-she-married-the-spare if there wasn't going to be a decent payoff. I don't see a non-appearance as a decent payoff for Oprah/Gayle. but we shall see. I, for one, hope she appears!

R120 I completely agree with everything you said. I'm totally smitten with Meghan's legitimately terrible and dated taste. It's one thing to follow current trends because you have no style of your own. It's another to follow trends from years ago. I mean, wtf. Do they have a big "EAT" decal on their kitchen wall? I want her to post on IG multiple times a day because she barely ever lets us cringe-addicts down on there. It's clearly where she feels free to express herself. What's she going to do next? I really expect some black and white shots of mother and baby soon, or more shots of tiny feet/hands.

I have never visited that account, but seem to be blocked, R24. Could you pls summarize? Thanks!

R125 - That's interesting if true. Because who's going to be threatening legal action over a Tumblr like that (I assume you're talking about Skippy?) other than Hazbean's team themselves? If they did send in the scary lawyers, it means Little Miss I Don't Read The Internet Commentary may have, you know, read some of that internet commentary. lol

R126-oh for sure we can expect more tiny feet and hands. I half expect to see Baby Archie nestled asleep on a lettuce leaf.

[quote] Apparently the tumblr got shut down by a lawyer threat, or so twitter says right now.

Or it was shut down by the blog owner so she can pretend she's being attacked.

If they've revealed the baby's face by then, I guess we can look forward to a black-and-white photo of Harry and the baby face to face.

R98 - I thought it was Anne who called Diana "that ridiculous creature".

R112 - Ah, but her parents, Prince and Pss. Michael of Kent, were invited to the Sussex wedding.

R128 - Well, blow me done, skippy IS gone. I don't think this is the first time, either - I think she was sjut down once before and then resurrected the site, hence the name skippyisheretostay.

However, torontopapre and drip drop, who carry exactly the same assertions of treason and imminent exposure, are still up. They're just a tad more literate.

^*blow me DOWN (not done).

Does Archie have American nannies?

What's this about the Queen giving Harry and Meaghan a second home at Buckingham Palace? Apparently Andrew and Edward have space there as well.

MM is no goop. Although she wants to be.

The BRF needs to be downsized.

Agreed R139. Too many hangers on causing trouble.

R137 - The lesser royals (Anne, Andrew, Beatrice, Eugenie, the Wessexs) get some rooms at BP or St. James Palace when they have to be in London - as opposed to the large grand home bases in London for more important royals, like Kensington Palace (William and Kate - 21 room "apartment") and Charles and Camilla (Clarence House).

A couple of rooms in BP or St. James Palace is no big deal. What Meghan thought she would get was the vast, luxurious 20-room apartment next to the Cambridges in Kensington Palace.

Imaginer her surprise at only being offered a home base in suburban Windsor and a couple of rooms in BP for London overnights.

Back.

She lathered herself with vaseline every night.

R127

Well, if it’s not Meghan, the BRF probably should get a restraining order against whoever it is. The operator has an obsessive level of “in the know worship” that would scare me if I were them. The type who starts out all love and fan letters and then imagines themselves slighted and snaps.

The account only follows a handful of other Meghan worship accounts, although they joined in 2013. Don’t know if there are old tweets pre Sussex.

There’s not a whole lot of interesting stuff. It’s mostly a vacuum, opposite that Toronto one.

Statements that Oprah, Gayle, Serena, etc. are all furious at British press treatment of their dear friend and will be using influence to retaliate. Lots of Doria worship - makes sense, she’s vital to the brand MM is presenting.

Lots of “You thought you knew but Harry was playing the long game and using his stealth military training strategy to protect his family. Everything will be limited exclusives.”

Very focused on putting anyone not “kind” to MM in their place and hurting them with lack of revenue. Also very upset that MM wasn’t appropriately credited in the new mental health video — commenters saying Cambridge all jealous that Sussex would overshadow and how stupid not to use MM fame/popularity to make this even bigger and global.

It’s everything you’d expect from a fan account with the addition of whoever is behind it being VERY personally invested. That’s the creepy part.

[quote] This is only a cousin of Harry's and a private citizen . . . Meghan can justifiably stay home, although it will seem odd given the proximity

No it won't seem odd. She just had a baby a week ago. What a dope you are

[quote] I just can't understand though - why not go with a UK outlet? Someone from Sky, or the BBC? Surely they know someone there they trust and like enough to do an interview. It will leave a sour taste in the mouths of the British media to see this go to an American 'journalist' (in quote because Gayle King isn't exactly a trained journalist herself)

Except, she is a journalist. And has been in the news business for over 30 years

Yes, r145, it will seem odd. The baby will be nearly 3 weeks old by the wedding. More than enough time for her to be able to function perfectly well. The reception is happening less than 500 yards from Frogho Central. Doria is there to look after the baby. There's no real reason for her not to show, although she won't.

2 weeks old, not 3 weeks old. Still, she'd be able to show considering it's literally in the nextdoor building.

There most certainly is, r147, and that is because none of them want her there. She'll pull some stunt to draw attention to herself and they want none of her nonsense.

Oh well, yes, except for that reason - I'm sure the hosts definitely don't want her there. But that's never seemed to stop her before.....

Correction, Gayle King is a television personality. She is not a trained serious journalist by any standard. She was a general assignment reporter many years ago at a small station in the midwest, then a newsreader in a third tier market (Hartford). She is no Christiane Amanpour.

What she is, is a FOO. You know what that is, I don't have to spell it out (Friend of Oprah for those who aren't in the loop). That's not a terrible thing, it certainly opened doors wide open for GK in ways that would never have been there otherwise. She seems to do a good job on the CBS Morning show, where the soft entertainment and human interest/celeb pieces are right up her lane. But to line her up with hard-hitting, seasoned journos is a bit insulting to the medium and to those who claim the post.

Having her interview Megs wouldn't be out of line if MM were strictly an American-based celeb or still just a Suits actress. But she's not; she's married to the grandson of the Head of State of the UK and 7th in line for that monarchy.

Kate didn't go out after she had her kids until she starved herself back to her pre-baby weight. She didn't even really want to be seen when she was pregnant

Camilla can rock a giant hat like nobody's business, but my absolute fave is that spiky Russian tiara she sometimes wears.

You’re assuming that she’s invited, R147. It’s not as though the guest list is published in advance. All that they’ve said is The Queen and Royal Family, and that was just from a royal reporter. We’ll know on the day who showed and will probably never know who was invited (although with Princess Mike as mother of the bride, who knows?).

The bottom line is that Gabriella is 51st in line to the throne - she’s not a public figure.

Haz and Bean are too busy nestling with the new bub to attend Ella's wedding this weekend. I don't think they'll be missed there. Pippa is set to attend, and Eugenie and Jack. The Fun Set.

What IS noteworthy is the Queen's presence. Has she ever attended the weddings of any of her other cousin's children? I don't believe she attended any of the Gloucester weddings (Rose, Davina and their brother). I can't recall if she attended any of the Kents, Lady Helen to Tim Taylor perhaps - ? (they were married at St. George Windsor as well). She didn't attend Freddie's to Sophie Winkleman a few years ago.

People will say "oh she may have had the day open on her schedule and was able to attend", and she's at Windsor most weekends, which may be true. But I feel this is unusual on its face, her attendance at this particular family event. We'll see what falls out here. It will be a much-photographed day for sure.

R152 You might call it “starving” but she was most likely eating a normal healthy diet and exercising. And as for her not wanting to be seen when pregnant? A google image search of “Duchess of Cambridge pregnant” returns hundreds of images. She probably stayed in when sick early on each time but otherwise, no, she wasn’t exactly a hermit.

[quote] Imaginer her surprise at only being offered a home base in suburban Windsor and a couple of rooms in BP for London overnights.

I'm sure she's fine with it. Three Million was spent renovating Frogmore Cottage. That's about $6 Million U.S dollars. Not bad at all. I bet the place is beautiful. And it's in one of the poshest suburbs in England. And don't any of you jackasses go on about the airplane noise. You don't know anything about it and you've probably never even been to Windsor, much less England. Dozens of billionaires live in Windsor. The Queen loves it too. So does Prince Andrew and Elton John

I bet Edward and Andrew are pissed off the Sussex's live in Windsor. That give H & M close proximity to the Queen. And Edward, Sophie, Beatrice and Eugenie are the Queen's shadows. They stick to her like glue hoping she'll leave them a lot $$$$$ in her will. They'll all hate any competition for the Queen's money. I'll tell you what, if my Mom or my Grandma was a billionaire and she was 93, I'd be kissing her ass, just like the most useless members of the Windsor family does too

R157 You’re not very bright, are you?

And when we’re you last in Windsor?

^^^ “were” not “we’re”.

Meg's face is still monstrously fart.

More tiaras! More kilts! More jewels the size of a baby's foot!

[quote] A google image search of “Duchess of Cambridge pregnant” returns hundreds of images. She probably stayed in when sick early on each time but otherwise, no, she wasn’t exactly a hermit

She went to some things (what they consider work, meet and greets), but she missed a lot of weddings of William's friends (but that's probably because she hates all of those stuck up fuckers), and William attended many social events alone. And except for the hospital step picture, she wasn't seen until her stomach was flat as a pancake.

[quote] And when we’re you last in Windsor?

A year ago. I used to live in England for 5 years. And you?

Sorry R162 but I’m calling bullshit on your five years!

I am English, you fool.

You sound like the cliche’d Markle obsessive, frantically googling (one of the poshest suburbs in England! Elton John lives there!). You’ve probably never even left your home town.

Away with you! Back to your fantasy life!

R161 Nobody saw her post partum belly after the shots on the steps of the Lindo wing because she was most likely at home looking after her new borne. That’s what most new mothers do.

They’re not all thirsty famewhores Instagramming the endless minutiae of their lives for their “followers”...

[quote] American 'journalist' (in quote because Gayle King isn't exactly a trained journalist herself)

There have been journalists longer that there have been journalism schools. Many great reporters and columnists never trained as journalists. A general degree, a good command of the language in which one is working and an excellent contact list would serve better than training as a "serious journalist".

[quote] Correction, Gayle King is a television personality. She is not a trained serious journalist by any standard. She was a general assignment reporter many years ago at a small station in the midwest, then a newsreader in a third tier market (Hartford). She is no Christiane Amanpour.

It's funny that Christiane Amanpour is the high bar. Be that as it may, journalism isn't rocket science. Gayle King's 30 years working in television including her work as a reporter more than qualifies her to hold the title journalist, no quotation marks required. No one is saying she's a the best in the business, but she's a legitimate reporter.

R15 Of the weddings of her royal cousins’ children I believe that she only went to Lady Helen Taylor’s (as you said, at Windsor) and James Ogilvy’s - Princess Alexandra’s son. She’s apparently very close to Princess Alexandra. No idea about her relationship with the Duke of Kent - Helen’s father. But both those were over twenty years ago.

The rest of her first cousins once removed either had small relatively non-grand weddings (Gloucesters) or registry office weddings, such as the Earl of St Andrews and Marina Ogilvy. Or were married in the Vatican - Lord Nicholas Windsor.

She had two Lascelles cousins - children of Princess Mary - who had a plethora of offspring who have mostly bred like rabbits and mostly out of wedlock. That branch deserves a thread of its own! The wild bunch.

[quote]I have never visited that account, but seem to be blocked

Ha, she blocked me too, after I corrected her grammar.

[quote]Meg's face is still monstrously fart.

Oh, dear.

(This made my day, thank you!)

I cannot even read Celebitchy due to all the Harkle fraus and Kaisers reposting articles from other sites and adding her obnoxious commentary. There is a poster there called “Not a Sugar Here” What is a “Sugar?” I’ve seen it mentioned on DL as well.

Some vaguely interesting trivia considering the media obsession with Markle’s endless gestation.

The Queen, Princess Margaret, The Duchess of Kent and Princess Alexandra were all pregnant at the same time in 1963/1964. Prince Edward, Lady Sarah Armstrong-Jones, Lady Helen Windsor and James Ogilvy were all born between late February and early May 1964.

R157 - You sound like the (obviously American) poster who was insisting, a few threads back, that "push presents," were a thing with the English aristocracy and that none of the actual British people posting here were aware of it because they were too low rent. Laughable.

R169 - A "sugar" is, AFAIK, the opposite of a "hater." Sugars love everything about their adored celeb and would find some kind of justification for it even if said adored celeb went on a shooting spree or drowned a few litters of kittens.

Speaking of sugars, what if Kaiser from Celebitchy IS the Write Life twitter account? You can tell she's practically exploding with righteous rage the at terrible treatment the poor, poor superstar Sussexes are receiving at the hands of the evil and racist RF and British public. Maybe that's how she blows off some steam? An anonymous twitter account?

R157 How do you know that Edward, Sophie, Beatrice and Eugenie are hoping that HM will leave them a lot of money in her will? Did they tell you? You’re not a very loyal friend to go posting it on here, are you?

Did they really call HM “Mom” and “Grandma”? Those wacky royals using American idioms! I had no idea that they spoke like middle Americans! Just like you...

I don’t know R171 but she is something else. (Kaiser) It wouldn’t surprise me. Thanks for answering:)

I wouldn’t go to any family event without William if I were Kate. Remember, the Queen instituted a rule that she must curtsey to all the “blood princesses” when she is not accompanied by her husband.

Windsor isn't a suburb, it's a town. The suburbs are what we call the outskirts of a city, eg High Barnet for London.

This sapphire tiara is stunning.

Here's the link for the sapphire tiara...

Gayle King is a journalist the way you are a competent shill.

The Megxiteers on Tumblr are all crying because their leader's blog got deleted!

'Hi hun, just in case you get flooded with asks about Skippy, you can find updates over at her twitter page. Yes, her tumblr blog shut down got too close to the truth. She plans on having her word press up in a day or so. Take care of you and thanks so much for intercepting asks from anons worried about Skippy!'

There's an actress named Hermione Norris who looks very much like Princess Michael of Kent. I was watching her in "Berkeley Square" last night and I kept saying to myself, "Where have I seen that face before??"

STOP linking to and chattering about other gossip sites. I never understand why people come to DL and can't shut up about other ones.

You don't run our lives R181!

R164, actually you can see a bit of a postpartum belly in the pic taken in the Middletons' garden two (?) weeks after she had George.

And R152, just shut the fuck up. Kate did engagements two weeks prior to give birth whereas Meghan has been hiding her fat face for more than a month.

[quote] (in quote because Gayle King isn't exactly a trained journalist herself)

To be fair, she is. She majored in Communications in college and then started out in local TV news in the early 1980s and has been an on air journalist ever since. I'm not a particular fan but she's worked consistently and diligently and Oprah did not make nor buy Gayle's career. She's a successful newscaster in her own right.

Easy to see why anyone wouldn't want MM at their wedding! Poor Euge couldn't avoid it, and look what happened.

Oh shit, the But Eugenie's Wedding Troll is here again at R185, after a lengthy ban!

R181 always gets mad when Skippy is mentioned, so probably IS a Skippie.

No, I'm not the Euge wedding troll; I just have no trouble seeing why Gabriella and Pippa before her left MM off the guest list.

Shame though...it would be interesting to see what happens to someone who has made an implacable enemy of Pss Michael of Kunt.

Nobody gives a fuck about spazzy Princess Michael, it's all about Princess Markle.

I used to love the Dangling Tendrils threads, particularly the earnest armchair psychoanalysis and the flawless Tig satire. After they were shut down, I tried to protect these BRF threads by hitting the WW button often, and using FF sparingly.

But I'm tired of these Frau interlopers who rant about Skippies, Larries, and Toronto-something-or-other. They're so wrapped up in their own jargon and Twitter wars that half the time I can't even tell whether they're fans or detractors of Meghan. From here on out, I'm FFing them all, and saving my WW button for posts on obscure tiaras, the Queen's silk scarf collection, and vintage gossip.

A lot of talk about the UK press here, but do you think it really matters to MM and Harry? She's obviously interested in being a global brand, thus no reason to pander to the local media. I can imagine her doing things the Beyonce/Trump way--using her social media instead of going through traditional media with occasional exclusives to favored outlets (Oprah-adjacent Gayle King). Any backlash from the local press can be spun as unwarranted or racist attacks on her.

I also think people underestimate her appeal, at least for now, in the US market. Lots of US gossip sites/podcasts, etc are filled with Meghan-loving content. (I recently saw that my American nephew is following the Sussex IG, ugh.) The American (and biracial) angle has drawn in a lot of people who normally wouldn't follow the stodgy RF. That will all presumably die down now that the highlights of wedding/1st baby are over. Harry of the thinning hair and almost-40 mommy Meghan won't be the stuff of romantic fantasies for much longer. Remains to be seen if she'll be able to position herself as the new Gwynnie/Oprah or not.

I haven't been bothered to wear jewellery for years, but all these jewels (those emeralds!) are giving me feelings.

Yes, R190. Frau interlopers is exactly what they are, and they taint this place by being intolerant and downright fucking creepy. You can recognize them immediately because they're hysterical and juvenile and they bring nothing of interest to the table.

Odd that people are so touchy about the mention of tinhats when this thread is infested with CT fraus squawking about moonbumps.

The UK press hold back more than they publish in regards to the BRF. Harry and Meghan are complete idiots to piss them off. I forsee talk of yacht parties in the near future. Sure, they may focus it all on the USA, but my bet would be on Harry having to give up his title to move there permanently and who's going to give a shit about a former prince and his nobody wife? They're only popular because they are part of the BRF - that's pretty much all they've got and they really have been arrogant fools not to see it.

"They're only popular because they are part of the BRF - that's pretty much all they've got and they really have been arrogant fools not to see it."

This. It all boils down to this. Like I said before, the level of hubris is off the chain, and when you're THAT smug, then ultimately the force is not with you.

Megantoinette is building an international brand, probably with an eye to life after divorce. If she intended to settle in to the UK she wouldn't be courting Gayle King or any of that nonsense. But sticking it in the eye of the great British public is not a smart strategy. I heard stories of her travelling as the girlfriend of a privileged young lad to Bigwin Island in Ontario, while she was filming suits. The general view was entirely charming and blatantly, obviously ambitious.

R197-a privileged young lad? Do share!

If anyone truly knows Windsor, they will know of it's ugly side. It's a picture perfect place, until you are in town, where the homeless are gathered. And are not cared for.

Miss Skippy is back on Tumblr for fraus interested, under Skippy 2.0 . She got closed down ( apparently by people attached to the Strong Write Twitter account) for copyright infringement.

R191, when you say she is interested in being a "global brand" it is clear you think the US = "global" (as in "World Series", which gives everyone else in the world the LOLs).

Apparently, the Duchess is another, since her behaviour is going to alienate people in the Commonwealth countries just as much as in the UK. She will certainly not end up a "global brand", in the way that Diana undeniably was. I didn't like Diana at all (dangerous nutter), but in her case she didn't even need to court the US: it fell fawning into line behind the rest of the world.

The UK press are on the attack , Duchess Yoko will be going off her tits on her Twitter account later. A few links....( the comments in the Express are really hotting up, too).

....

.....

Oh, that last link is what we've all been wondering about, and the news doesn't surprise me one little bit.

I think the BP office has only just started, as in Latham having to get past the Queen's secretary. They probably waited till after the birth. Latham has probably had her field day, but now it ends. Close eye on Yoko, indeed.

Yeah, that Latham chick is bad news.

No, R200, by global I meant global. They love going on about Africa; she lived in Argentina for a few weeks, so I'm sure that's on the table; Europe is a given for jetsetters; and I'm sure China is on her mind, too--following in Ivanka Trump's footsteps.

Haha, Argentina was just a few short weeks, wasn't it? Family connection got her an internship and she buggered off with a rich bloke, somewhere. It was reported he was a tycoon. He probably told her he was, lmao.

Unhinged.

I find that incredibly disturbing, R209. It sounds ominous, almost threatening. This fucking bitch is a budding psychopath. I honestly believe she could commit murder if it could benefit her in some way. Wow. They've got a big time bunny boiler on their hands.

If that is Meghan, she's seriously mentally ill. But we pretty much guessed she was anyway.

Oh, I knew she was kookoo, R211, but I didn't know she was clinically insane. To write that about William, the future king, seems almost like treason. I wish they still beheaded people for that.

R198, not much more to say than the son of a comfortable family. You don't do Bigwin without the money to be there but it isn't zillionaire territory either (necessarily.) I assume she met him at Soho in Toronto. I didn't get the impression it lasted long, but then again, how much time does one spend on any particularly rung on the ladder?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R209-Given that William's popularity has eclipsed Harry's, I don't think Dim will be doing an "Reigning" anytime soon. She's mental.

What does it say, R209? Am blocked.

[quote]She will certainly not end up a "global brand", in the way that Diana undeniably was.

Diana never thought of herself as a brand. Diana didn't merch. Diana thought of herself as a humanitarian - in deeds, not words. Diana was an aristocrat, with all the confidence that entails. She wasn't an arriviste.

Write Life PR ‏

@StrongWrite Follow Follow @StrongWrite More HM Queen Elizabeth II has always known the difference between the One who would become King and the One who would Reign. R216

Whoops, all that faff at the beginning! Should read....

Elizabeth II has always known the difference between the One who would become King and the One who would Reign

Phhhft, that can’t be Meghan Markle. It’s some gal reveling in the speculation..

The account does know some shit, a good few weeks before it hits the press. It's weird.

Thanks, R219!

What would that even mean?

Is it some sort of threat against the Cambridge family? Who threatens children?! Hope some authorities are looking into this. If it is our Sparky, Lord Doom needs to try harder.

I don't doubt at all this is being watched at all, if it's her. Or connected to her. I notice the press mention her being watched a lot, today.

Too many at all's, this is what happens while typing and dying for a piss, lol.

Lord Doom is brought back for the coverup of the mess H and M have created . That’s the only thing he has to do . Not reigning in M .

Someone needs to reign her in. So much for her being a team player. Stupid Harry.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Cambridge kids excited to meet cousin Archie

Here's the other one which is supposed to be MM's. This one would be particularly weird since it uses Anne Boleyn as a moniker (perhaps because she married another Harry?) but of course we all know that Anne Boleyn's end is nothing for anyone to aspire to. Anyway here is this twitter account picturing Sarah Latham without naming her, which would be odd for even her stans to do.

Kim K wants to scratch out Meghan's eyes.

R174, now that Kate has the Victorian Cross, doesn't that mean she doesn't have to curtsy to anyone other than HM and Prince Charles & Camilla? Doesn't she now outrank the Duke of Suxxes even when William isn't around?

Meghan doesn't run these Twitter accounts, you loons.

[quote] some elements of life at Althorp required an injection of glamour from the Canadian-born third wife of Earl Spencer, who has rung in the changes.

[quote] “When I moved in, I made them a bit more glam: we switched dinner on Saturday nights to black tie, because everyone wants to dress up - the venue demands it. Plus, it’s a great excuse for me to wear the Spencer jewellery.”

Canadians and Canadian-adjacent people seem to cropping up in the British aristocracy and glamming things up.

Canada is a place from which any glamour can arise?

Link for the comment at R233.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Damn, that article at r234 throws more shade than a beach umbrella.

R145 - Really? Prince Louis was born April 23rd but somehow, less than a month later, Kate Cambridge hauled her arse out and dressed up to the nines and hauled her kids to Meghan's wedding

But as we all know, standards for Kate living a half hour's drive from Windsor and Meghan living ten minutes from St. George's Chapel are very different, right?

She was well enough to dress up in high heels full makeup and a designer dress so that, unlike Kate with her babies, she could have a private photocall with selected outlets.

It would serve you right if she showed up smiling eagerly at the cameras.

No, R235. Prior to his marriage to the succubus, he looked like a normal human being.

[quote]I'm tired of these Frau interlopers who rant about Skippies, Larries, and Toronto-something-or-other.

I’m glad I’m not the only one! It’s getting awfully boring.

If it helps, I read that the Royal Dish (I think) has re-opened their H&M thread so maybe this crew can go there, if that’s where they came from. They don’t strike me as longtime DLers.

I thought so, R238.

The Twitter statement at R219 isn’t meant as menacing or a threat. It’s meant as, Will may be King and have the title- but who cares? Harry is the one who will reign worldwide as the beloved, king of hearts, etc.

It’s saying everyone knew he’d end up more popular, even though he’s the spare.

How do you know? r241?

MM doesn’t run any of these accounts. It would be very easy to discover, and I’m sure BRF staff have the means (money) to research it. The wife of the GM of the 76ers basketball team was posting stuff anonymously, and she was easily discovered.

Isn't a "communications degree" a way of going to college for people who are best equipped to ask "Do you want fries with that?"

And Will just pulled well ahead of Harry in popularity according to the most recent poll (to say nothing of MeGain sinking to half Kate's popularity. A poll taken, hilariously, after the baby was born. Almost unheard of for any Royal to sink in popularity after a baby is born, but the Harkles have managed it.

R190, I'm on your team, but I would like to addend your agenda to include kilts.

Harry became more popular than Will when the nation found out he was serving in Afghanistan. His involvement in the Invictus Games was also greatly admired.

Spazzy Skippy is back, here's an anon congratulating her:

Gosh Skippy, what a shock to read you had been shut down- and thank goodness you are still around here. How can that be though? I would have thought the cowards trying to silence you, and the rest of us,would have had all your accounts closed. So glad we can still be in touch.

Wow! Obviously bigger toes, as well as nerves,have been stood on and touched! Keep up the good work. The truth will out. We should look into mounting a class action for OUR collective stress and worry about OUR Queen!

R174 - The GCVO has nothing to do with rank. It's an honour, not a title. William and Kate technically hold the same rank as Harry and Meghan, but still come ahead of them in the hierarchy, such, as when going into public events, like heading into a state banquet or into a big church service at St. Paul's or the Abbey.

Kate only has to curtsy to the Queen, Philip (as a courtesy), and on occasion Charles with or without William. Technically, she and Meghan both have to curtsy to the York girls if they are not with her husbands. I doubt it's ever happened.

When Charles becomes King, William and Kate will outrank Harry and Meghan as Prince and Princess of Wales and will become far more high-profile, with the Throne already throwing long shadows across them. I don't think Harry and Meghan will be bowing and curtsying to them, just the same. But once Charles dies, yes, Meghan will be curtsying to Queen Catherine, Harry will be bowing to his older brother and his wife.

From the story at R234:

[quote]According to a note sent by the Earl to the BBC in 2003, the correct pronunciation of Althorp is ‘All-trup’, although even he has given up using it.

Did you guys know this? I had no idea.

I thought it was pronounced All-thrup, but I guess I was wrong!

R249, yes. Just as the correct pronunciation of St John is Sinjin.

R241 - that's how I deciphered the post as well. William will be King but Harry will be the most popular brother. With William pulling ahead in the latest popularity poll, that may be in doubt.

That cunt is cruisin' for a bruisin'.

Harry's popularity peaked about five years ago.

How do you know it hasn't already been discovered r243? Also, it's entirely possible that MeGain doesn't technically run the account but runs the content via her pal Omid or Lainey, or whomever.

I'm just enjoying the hilarious tone of voice employed in it. It's so arrogant and imperious about someone so slimy. It's hilarious.

Harry was popular while he was single because that was "fun" - single princes are eligible bachelors. JFK Jr. was the American equivalent in his day. Now that Harry's married and harried to the American Princess, his popularity is sinking fast.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The fact that JFK looked like a Greek god didn't hurt. Harry looks like a drunk red rodent.

Meant JFK, JR.

R257, Care to speculate on how Williams holds up those trousers so well? I do not see a belt. I didn't have him figured for suspenders, but that suit fits very nicely.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R261, It's not just me - they clearly make a joke about wearing the exact same reg tie.

I'm not a fan of the pinstripe.

R262 - I'm not seeing how that's Kate's job any more than darning his sockcs. Don't they have staff for appropriate sartorial expression?

William looking sharp in contrast to his brother who looks slightly unkempt.

Shame that rosacea runs in the male line. Charles and both his sons have it. Hopefully Archie will inherit Meg's complexion.

Will obviously has the best tailor in tow.

Harry's been looking harried for almost a year or so now. I don't think it's just the recent baby thing.

"town"

R267, R269, No worries. I was listening to what you meant, not what you typed.

Thanks, R270.

R264 It's not Kate's job. R262 was referencing all the comments about the state of Harry's shoes (or his facial hair) being Meghan's fault.

I assume adults without intellectual challenges can dress themselves and should take credit or blame for how smart or scruffy they look.

Harry's bad facial hair is an obvious ploy to distract from his bald spot. Meg probably told him it works. Not everyone is fooled, but that has nothing to do with the actual clothing which is another person's job to attend to.

A new photo has emerged of Meghan in that horrid blue & white bedspread she wore.

I guess Archie isn't as quiet as he'd hoped he would be.

Harry made fun of Will's baldness for years...Karma is a bitch!

Archie (top) compared to Harry (left) and Meghan (right) as babies.

Doria as a blonde.

Kate was at an engagement today. I'm not a fan of the dress. It's too long and dowdy.

[quote] Harry's bad facial hair is an obvious ploy to distract from his bald spot. Meg probably told him it works.

The idiocy I was making fun of at R262.

It isn't Kate's job to look after William's shoes. Camilla doesn't make Charles force staff to carry around his butt cushion. Meghan didn't make Harry grow a neck beard. He started sporting the beard in 2015 and they didn't meet until some time in early or mid 2016. Even if she told it looks amazing, he's a grown ass man who can shave or trim his own facial hair.

This is where Kate was and why.

Oh boy, R279. Dowdy is right. See, it's that prairie schoolmarm style again, which she returns to over and over.

Kate has worn this dress before.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Sophie Wessex is another woman who knows how to wear a BIG HAT!

Sneaky pics of grandma Carole Middleton with a younger George.

Meghan has used up all the clothing budget so Kate can't afford lining for her dress at R284. Or a few more buttons.

I wonder why Kate loves the flash. Maybe she needs to feel sexy while Will is trying out his luck with their neighbors' wives.

I quite like that blue polka dot dress of Kate's. Schoolmarm dowdy is trendy right now, but that dress is slyly sexy with the thin fabric and lack of buttons towards the bottom.

That's flashy r284?

No wonder her husband is fucking somebody else.

Girl needs to eat a burger if she wants to get her husband back into bed.

Remedial English for R290.

Flasher and flashy are not synonyms.

Why on earth would Kim Kardashian feel threatened by Meghan and Harry?

Even if BP could link that Twitter account to MM, what can they do about it? Nothing.

R283, R284, I like Kate in that dress - It calls to mind those polka dots Diana wore. Even the innocent "see through" dress from the Charles & Di engagement. I doubt it was her intention, but Kate never puts a foot wrong. Even her accidents work for her.

Pointing out the obvious: doesn't she look slim and fit after having 3 babies!

Meg looked like she had a balloon under that "look at my baby" belt-wrap dress. Maybe take a fashion cue from your prettier SIL next time? At least she can finally do something about her hair. It looks awful.

R284 Not a huge fan of the shape of the dress but love the polkadots. Lets face it bitch could wear a paper bag and she'd look good. She basically had a model's figure. I would kill to be that thin and have those legs, any woman who says they wouldn't are lying.

R294 = Kate

R292, because Meg will never live out her dream in the UK. She wants to brand herself in Hollywood and that zeroes in on the Kardashian sexpire.

R296, pretty sure Kate is posting on DL from the East Coast of the USA.

Meg's hair is ugly. Harry's hair is ugly. Good thing they had a boy.

Their boy will have ugly kinky red hair. They gonna have to hot iron it.

Love Kate's combo of demure top with a bit of open and sheer below. Very nice look.

R282 - Yes, some schoolmarm with the slit halfway up the thigh and the sheer material and the high heels showing the pretty legs and tiny waist. Mmmm-hmmmmm . . . .

Thank you R285. I didn't love her outfits on the India tour. The hats bring style.

I still can’t get over how huge MM got during her pregnancy. I really didn’t see that coming.

Pre-pregnancy, she was fit and eating disordered— hard to imagine her pigging out and/or being sedentary during pregnancy. Do how did she get so big?

She looks like she gained a good 80 pounds.

One reason the people love Kate as that she wears English designers, and recycles her dresses. One can appreciate thrift when it's on the taxpayer's dime.

Any idea if Smeg will re-wear that peach-colored Morrocan tour cow dress that cost over a hundred thousand pounds? Either the dress was ugly or she was. Or both?

R303, yes her face alone was so large I wondered if she was planning to be Zeus and give birth out of her head.

MM was out of sight for SIX WEEKS prior to the birth. That’s when a good bit of pregnancy gain happens. There’s no telling how big she got at the end. Her face looked totally rearranged at the photo call.

In Morocco, she already looked 20 months pregnant. And that was almost 3 months before she supposedly gave birth.

Kate wore the same dress as MM's friend Abigail Spencer

Empirical evidence only, but a lot of women I know gained a ton of weight during their first pregnancy, and less with each successive pregnancy. Kate, of course, is the exception that proves the rule.

A vid for those of you who go gaga over the Royal jewels (no, not THOSE Royal jewels)

Part of why Meghan looks so bad is because she has zero sense of style which reflects her zero sense of self (true appraisal of self). Everything is done for an effect, hence when she got free rein to put together a wardrobe for the purpose of public appearances etc.... Instead of thinking 'how can these outfits work to look aptly dressed for occasions while still looking like they represent my style', Meghan likely thought 'I can finally wear the labels and trends that I've always wanted to wear to reflect my worth'. Instead of having a distinctly POV in style that's functional as well as stylish (not fashionably trendy per se) like Kate, Meghan looks like an interloper, an arriviste because her clothes reflect this about her. She's not smart in her obvious self-promotion and climbing at all, girl's got no game in how she's viewed, I'm sorry but that's the truth. Anyone who can't see this is either dumb or a super fan. Don't forget she's someone who recently posted on IG account on Anzac Day last month, a post on how she contemplates Anzac Day with a photo of herself on Anzac Day last year. Shameless and dumb, that one.

hey did anyone read about Princess Martha Louise of Norway having found love with a "shaman" and "spiritual hacker"?! He's dark, meaning she's probably really loving his bbc. sorry for going off point.

[quote] I like Kate in that dress - It calls to mind those polka dots Diana wore. Even the innocent "see through" dress from the Charles & Di engagement. I doubt it was her intention, but Kate never puts a foot wrong. Even her accidents work for her.

Revisionist history. Kate has been flashing the world since she became a royal. Those are the few moments I find her interesting.

The sexy school marm works ironically. With 3 children and dove's feet at her eyes, it's not ironic on Kate IMO. Wearing a sheer skirt without lining to a daytime "work" function is too risqué for my taste. Even before seeing R307 I thought the dress would look better with a belt. I love polka dots and I want to love this outfit on Kate but I don't. It's a meh in my books.

Here's a pic of Kate wearing something bigger than a fascinator and smaller than a full-fledged Camilla hat.

R284, we'll have to agree to disagree. I've read she has weights sewn into her hems to keep the wind effect down. And the coat dresses are both lovely and heavy enough to not blow about in the wind. There's only so much to be done, but at least she has the legs for it. Kudos, Kate.

R308, most women gain more with the 2nd than the 1st.

The Queen looks like she's trying to look up another lady's skirt. LOL.

That hat is defying gravity in fear of her majesty's wrath should it dare to fall off.

Photos of Princess Anne over the years. I'm digging the risqué green dress she's wearing.

Anne is much too busy to answer fan mail so she gets her secretary to sign instead.

A very odd outfit to be wearing at the beach.

Anne and Horse = a lifelong love affair.

R313 - That photo was at the Sussex wedding on 19 May and Kate had given birth to Louis on 23 April, less than a month earlier. I imagine the large hat and coat-dress were helpful in distracting the eye from the nursing Mum/remaining baby weight she still carried.

R314 I agree that Kate has great legs. And in the world of real bodies, she must be a dream to dress.

I'm skeptical about the weighted skirts story. She suffers more skirt related wardrobe malfunctions than any other senior royal woman, or woman in public political life TBH. I'm not inclined to believe they're all accidental. It seems odd that after more than 15 years in the public eye, she still can't get her skirts under control.

It's unfair how well Kate carries her pregnancies and post-pregnancy self. She makes it look so easy, it makes everyone think they could do it without becoming a cow.

R318, that hat is perfect for Anne. The underside feathers? LOVE!

Zara Phillips Tindall, getting some jewelry from the Princess Royal that even HRH doesn't get to wear:

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

And no spider veins to coordinate with that blue dress. Well played, Kate. Well played indeed.

She has great legs and knows how to walk in heels,such an anti feminist!

Does anyone else remember the sexist press and how Lady Helen Windsor was always referred to as Lady Melons because she had a big bust?

The thigh slit on that dress isn’t flashy in full fashion sense. I’d describe it as unexpectedly and demurely sexy. Flashy in fashion terms is what the Kardashians wear: super trendy outfits or outfits that show not only one body part but all of them in crass ways rather than cheeky/ unexpected ways.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I wonder if Sussex Royal will have to post something after Kate Sexy Thing was out in public? Oh wait, I typed too soon.

The Queen's 'beach outfit' at r320 was appropriate for the location - probably on one of the Scottish Western Isles on the Inner or Outer Hebrides. The royals would regularly tour the islands on The Britannia, coming ashore where they fancied on the yacht tender. There are stories of them appearing without warning, to picnic on beaches around the coast, the ladies in headscarves and bundled up in layers of casual clothing to protect them from the strong prevalent winds.

R331 is joining R290 in Remedial English.

Imagine eating your sarnies on the beach behind your windbreaker, and then up pops Queenie!

R330 - Actually, it was friends and family members who jeeringly called her "Melons" - the press got it from them.

Oh the unmitigated irony... after that stupid U.S. twitter trend about a purported "Cambridge affair" nonsense engaged by the sugars (prompted no doubt by the same type of impotent frau logic who thought boycotting Nordstrom on behalf of Ivanka would make a bit of damn difference)... William is now the most popular of the royals.

Long live Alpha Dick William!

William looks hot lately ,maybe due to an air of responsibility. He seems to have grown out of his petulant years since fatherhood. By contrast Harry is so scraggy looking. All this grey he wears like it is his "signature colour" is bleurgh. . Someone needs to tell him grey suits were a thing in 1981, also suit presses/dry cleaners are real things.

Swipe for photos of Lady Helen Windsor now Taylor (aka "Melons"). I think she was prettier than trout mouthed Lady Amelia Windsor.

R338 - I don't know how William would fare as an alpha outside royal circles, but he's unquestionably now the alpha of the BRF - and that including eclipsing his aging father, who has missed his shot at being anything but a bridge King. Harry looks like a petulant dim wimp next to his brother, a man who handcuffed himself to a wife who can't hide that she has twice the balls he does. Kate, by contrast, is the perfect consort foil to William's increasingly powerful alpha. He knew what he was doing when he married her, and she has handled everything the way William and the family want, and ignored the jeering fraus on places like CB about her clothes and professional ambitions. She'll have the last laugh and so will William.

I'd wager a month's pension on Meghan being too shrewd not to miss the difference between the angry dependent wet noodle she married and his older brother's growing power. But she's also probably shrewd enough to know that William the Alpha would never have put up with her bullshit - so she got as close as she could.

Has anyone heard if Maud Windsor will be a bridesmaid at her aunt Lady Gabriella's wedding this weekend? What about Isabella Windsor, the Cambridges, Phillips or Tindall kids?

Oh my R332 William looks fantastic.

[quote] Today, HRH was able to fulfill that promise...

In the Sussex Insta post, the use of the abbreviation "HRH" sounds like a casual nickname. It reminds me of Scientologists referring to L. Ron Hubbard as "L. Ron." If they feel they must refer to Harry this way, they should type out His Royal Highness. Better yet, just call him the Duke of Sussex.

Isn't supposed to be like HRH The Duke of Sussex anyways? Not just HRH

How obnoxious for a couple that refuses to follow protocol when dealing with other royals

This was July 10th of last year. Meghan could barely conceal what/who she really wants. Also, Kate is not even three months postpartum here yet MEghan looks to have the bigger bloat.

[quote]Oprah did not make nor buy Gayle's career.

You MUST be kidding. I won't wade into the argument over whether or not King qualifies as a 'journalist' or not, but to state that her close friendship with Oprah didn't elevate her career and profile is ridic to the extreme. Being friends with Oprah MADE her career what it is today -before O she was an totally unknown local reporter. No one on a national level knew who she was before Oprah started hanging around with her. There is no way she'd be invited to Meg's baby shower without having been pals with O.

I, too, love the delicious irony that King Alpha Dick William has now eclipsed Halfwit the Handbag. I must say, this soap opera is becoming quite entertaining.

[quote]I bet Edward and Andrew are pissed off the Sussex's live in Windsor. That give H & M close proximity to the Queen. And Edward, Sophie, Beatrice and Eugenie are the Queen's shadows.

The crazy poster at r157 must have forgotten that Andrew and his kids actually LIVE in Windsor Great Park themselves. At Royal Lodge, a beautiful pad and a helluva lot fancier than Frogmore Cottage. He, Bea and Eug (and Sarah, who lives part time there) have plenty of access to QE both in London and in Windsor.

Boy, Kate and Wills will do anything except visit that damn baby.

It is weird, isn't it, that Kate and William haven't visited the baby. It's his only brother!

Kate and William are visiting the baby today, allegedly - and if Harry hadn't married a bitch who set him up against his blood family, they might have been there earlier. William and Kate have good reasons for being unable clearly can't stand Meghan - that's Harry's doing. All that said, a parade of family members right after a birth is usually ill-advised, as new parents need time and breathing space.

We have heard that the Sussex duo have joined Edward and Andy in being appointed suites of rooms at Buckingham Palace for their use when they are 'in town'. This concerns Andrew. There's a delightful BBC documentary, 'Inside Claridges, featuring a year in the life at the London 5 star hotel (it's on YouTube). One scene has the manager standing outside, waiting to personally greet a VIP. The manager explains to camera that this guest stays regularly but walks straight in when he arrives, never pausing to acknowledge staff. We then see from car arriving, turns out to be Prince Andrew (for it is he), flanked by his posse of RPO's. With head down he nips in smartly, past the manager with not so much as a smile or a greeting. He has rooms at The Palace yet chooses to stay 'regularly' at Claridges. For what business we wonder, to take place away from curious eyes? Monkey business?

R349 is correct: Royal Lodge, once the home of the Duke and Duchess of York (later King George VI and Queen Elizabeth) is a far classier and more beautiful home than Frogmore Cottage. It is now the home of the present Duke of York.

The BRF need Kris Kardashian to take the reins of this family All of the K sisters PR is coordinated. None of this infighting to the detriment of the klan. And I am sire there is a hierarchy such that Kim gets the most attention, then Kylie, etc.

Not sure what else will get MM to work w the family and organization that pays her rent.

Hard to believe just a year or two ago, she was spending what she was earning on Snouits and likely yachting and marching for some.extra baubles.

I mean she was nearing late 30s and had no kids , no real estate.

Why haven’t Kate and William visored the baby? They probably haven’t been invited.

R303, the weight gain makes me wonder if we'll get a glimpse of her during the Gayle King special. Can't imagine why would Gayle go to England if there weren't a personal interview otherwise, though.

Seen from that angle, R327, I love that dress.

Perhaps Gayle is unveiling the $3 million Frogmore renovations. That would be quite an exclusive (and HUGE middle finger to British taxpayers.)

A request....

When referencing another post, it would be helpful if you refer to the post number in YOUR post.

Back at R204 and R206, for example, the posters were apparently referring back, but to what? I was interested in what they mentioned, but couldn't find it.

There is more than one conversation going on and like others, I have some posters on ignore.

Thanks in advance.

R357, maybe it's not an on-camera interview, but probably an off-the record interview to provide Gayle with some content for the special. Maybe there will be some footage of them adding the final touches to their nursery. (MM would love to humblebrag about its design on TV.) Then for those interviews with the insiders (the make-up guy, and the BBF)...I wonder where they will take place? I'm guessing not in the lobby of a hotel, but possibly in the carefully decorated Frog cottage. Perhaps there will be a perched product placed prominently in the background of these talking head segments.

I would loooooove to have a gander at the Frog House interiors. Various outlets have mentioned a neutral palette, including in the nursery and I believe it. Neutral palette interiors are very 'I have no inherent sense of style so I'm just gonna go with what's trendy at the moment' and exactly what I would expect from Hazbean. Bleached wood floors, oatmeal coloured linens, grey walls, Scandi-lite.

Although given that this is Meghan maybe we should be looking at 15 yr old trends. Shiny granite countertops and stainless steel appliances, then?

I do hope Gayle brings more than few swivel-eyed sycophants insisting that Megs is the new Jesus in lady form.

R333, In other words NOT looking sharp and pulled together like big brother Alpha D, the future King of England.

Understandably tired of course, but not understandably sloppy.

Prince Harry and his package? Photoshop? Something in his pocket?

If there's a GoFundMe account for R355's satire page, please post the link. The yachting, the lack of jewelry and covetousness thereof, the "SnOUTS"? and the dead-on Kardashian multi-generation game plan. All we need is 50lbs of "baby weight" that will never be lost...

R364, debate has raged about that photo for several years now. I think it's a narrow bottle of water, like the one he's holding in his hand.

R355-given where she was and what she's achieved, I just have to marvel at Markel. I continue to be gobsmacked, though, that she isn't one iota grateful. She thinks she's entitled to all this - that she deserves every last outrageously overpriced ill-fitting ensemble. For that reason I find her utterly fascinating. There is such an enormous disconnect. Just about any other woman in her shoes would be going through contortions to fit in and not ruin the grift. Not her. Nope. Let's piss all over the largesse of the family I never had.

No denying how handsome William was when younger.

Every girl had his poster when he was at his peak, Harry was always the ugly goblin

R346, good catch: the difference in posture between the two brothers is extraordinary. Also observe how William and Kate are fixed on exactly the same thing (probably an RAF flyover). Meg is staring at Willaim, Harry is staring at the floor.

Perhaps William's increased popularity is because of his serious demeanor.

Harry's goofiness has worn thin and the shenanigans with Baby Sussex's birth might have caused a lot of eye-rolling. It all seemed pretty silly and pointless to me and I don't think I would have been the only one with a new appreciation for the no nonsense approach of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. Straight, direct respectful behavior. One predictable venue for photos of new baby, then they go home only to surface briefly for the christening and after that no pictures until the first birthday.

What a relief.

Remember that quote from Prince Charles to Harry prior to the Sussex wedding ...

[quote] The problem with someone who is dramatic is that they are dramatic all the time.

How exhausting. How draining.

Not just for members of the family, but for the country as well. It all seems very silly, pointless and trivial.

But everyone can now see that William is dependable. As is Kate.

And dependable beats goofy when the going gets tough.

Diana looking regal in the Spencer Tiara, also worn on her wedding day. Would Charlotte be eligible to wear this one day?

[quote] Perhaps William's increased popularity is because of his serious demeanor....Harry's goofiness has worn thin and the shenanigans with Baby Sussex's birth might have caused a lot of eye-rolling.

This^^. Spot on. And the part about dramatists being dramatic all the time. The British public aren't paying for the senior BRF members to be world-wide "popular" celebs who promote the best social media content. They aren't looking for them to be in a contest for who is more famous, or who collects the more famous friends. That's the opposite of what is expected.

Will & Kate may be dull, boring as heck, stodgy even, compared to the Harkles. But they come across as a helluva a lot more dignified, royal and ready for the roles that they will inherit in the future.

[quote]And dependable beats goofy when the going gets tough.

Someone needs to bring this quote over to Kaiser's board at CB and post it on every BRF thread there. The obsession with royals as 'popular' celebs is nutty.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I have always thought a big part of MM's problem is that she doesn't understand that she married into a family firm where she is expected to work. She just sees the BRF as interfering in-laws and the courtiers as overstepping employees who need to mind their own business..

R362 I wonder if they'd be stupid enough to allow cameras into Frog Cottage considering they just sued a publication for printing pictures of the interior of their Cotswolds rental. It compromised their security apparently. Let's hope they are and find themselves counter-sued

Short visit?

"[R164], actually you can see a bit of a postpartum belly in the pic taken in the Middletons' garden two (?) weeks after she had George."

Yes. R164 thinks nobody can google. Kate hadn't lost all the weight when she attended the Sparkle wedding. She was still fuller figured at polo and when she attended another sort of horse thing with her kids where someone got a picture on their phone. Gary Janetti even did a little bitchery by having George ask her if this was the weight she was going to stay now. Kate has made appearances while heavily pregnant, including that godawful fab four sit down thing. She did and Will did a whole Sweden and Norway thing while she was obviously pregnant with Louis and into her third trimester.

I don't believe a thing that comes out about Sparkle and Handbag. I even doubt Doria's there. I don't believe they've been given "a suite" of rooms at BP - it's been confirmed by a royal reporter that apparently there's no room at the inn anywhere in London for the pair, and furthermore, BP is under renovation and everyone who did have rooms there have moved out until the reno is done, including Queenie. I don't believe Will and Kate "popped round" to Frogmore considering there is no evidence the anyone lives there. No evidence the place has been renovated according to rumor (roof shingles still missing, "garden" still weedy, window panes still boarded) because it's visible from the road and people have been posting pics while waiting for the Sohobebe to be birthed.

Not the British Royal Family (my apologies) but here's Crown Prince Frederik's mother, Queen Margrethe...when it's vital that the jewels match the teeth.

R371, but William was also the most popular royal last year, but the results weren't publicized. It seemed to suit the media to pretend Harry was the most popular. I think William has always been popular. People think of him as the heir and not Charles.

Wow, Diana looks gorgeous in R372. I love a large nose.

and Bingo for r375 as well. More than anything else, it personally boggles that she can't understand her basic role: SUPPORTING the current monarch and heir/s. Doing what one is told to do, taking instructions and following the mores and rules. This often comes from the trained courtiers, whose job it is to keep the BRF in shape and running smoothly.

When one's main goal however is to promote oneself and their needs/profile, that will inevitably clash with the mainstream....if you marry into a family with a billion $, internationally known, centuries-old enterprise of which you are expected to be a working part of, you take the advice and instructions given to you. And be grateful for that guidance. You don't hand out advice or re-invent the wheel, telling long-standing enterprise members how it should be done.

R381-the large nose made Diana, IMO. Without it she would have been just generically pretty. Her honker elevated her to stunning.

Queen Daisy (at r379) is such a horrible and heavy smoker. Blech. It will take her out in the end, I think, unfortunately.

[373] "WK are...dull, boring and stodgy"

How do you know that? Personally I think they are both physically hot and quite strong minded, their priorities are sorted, and they appear up for a good laugh. And a big plus, they don't play games. Is that dull and boring?

"Oh the unmitigated irony... after that stupid U.S. twitter trend about a purported "Cambridge affair" nonsense engaged by the sugars (prompted no doubt by the same type of impotent frau logic who thought boycotting Nordstrom on behalf of Ivanka would make a bit of damn difference)... William is now the most popular of the royals.

Long live Alpha Dick William!"

For those who followed the "affair" story all the way to the end, Ground Zero was a blogger called Nicole Clift (or cliff, or something), a Mega Sugar who knows nothing. Yet she was quoted as a royal insider and journalist by other journalists promoting the affair story. All this Sugar did was fan fic her ideas about what could have caused Kate to want to "phase out" Rose (a story that itself was bullshit). Actual tabloids took her story and ran with it, citing her as an insider and expert.

She came clean, admitted all she did was advance a theory she thought her followers would "enjoy" (no shit) but now that the cat was out of the bag there was no way to put it back in. She washed her hands of the fallout and shut down her social media.

I think she may be a bit disingenuous and may have misrepresented herself as some sort of journalist or insider, but didn't realize how far it would go.

This is for the fucking asshole who just makes shit up.

Kate at the Hazbean wedding, a month after Louis's birth.

I watched a TV program called "Queen of the World" last night. It gave an inside look at all of the preparations for the Commonwealth events last year. The staff at the Palace are hard working, well-informed and very helpful. They keep things running smoothly. they even go through the motions of what will happen when an Ambassador has an audience with the Queen (a female courtier filled in for the Queen). It's a big mistake for Sparkle to think she can't learn from these people. I guess that's why she went AWOL at the Prince of Wales investiture anniversary event when she was hovering in the background with Hapless Harry when they should have been seated with the other guests. I predict her arrogance and ambition will be her downfall in the end.

Kate Middleton in Sweden, pregnant with Louis.

Kate at the Heads Together Forum.

Sugars are fucking morons. They think everyone else is as stupid as they are.

r386. Hard to believe that the Brits think Americans are full of sh*te.

R390-that looks on Meghan's face. It looks like she's shooting daggers at Kate.

It seems that Nicolle Clitoris has deleted her article from the online US publication Slate. However, she continues to post with a trans-sexual on sex advice. So, make of her/him/it what you will.

R378, what you said about Doria... just recently there was an article in The Sun (so who knows...) about a book Doria sent her. (Why wouldn’t she just hand it to her?)

“It recommends banning visitors, social media and socialising in the month after birth, and instead focusing on bonding with the baby, self-care and daily meditation.”

“According to the book’s blurb, confinement “revives the lost art of caring for the mother after birth.

“As modern mothers are pushed to prematurely bounce back after delivering their babies, and are often left alone to face the physical and emotional challenges of this new stage of their lives, the First Forty days provide a lifeline-a source of connection, nourishment, and guidance.”

Because Gawd knows, Meghan is all alone, disconnected, malnourished and bereft of guidance. How conveeeeenient.

Smeg looks like a whale and needs an excuse to get out of the public eye and try to take the pounds off.

She started the Sussex blog ostensibly to "keep in touch" with her "fans" but really so that she wouldn't have to be seen in public. She looks like a cow.

SHE IS FAT. Not ordinary, "I gained 20-25 pounds during pregnancy", but "I AM AN ORCA AND IF SEA WORLD CATCHES ME IN THAT WHITE/BLACK OUTFIT, I MIGHT GET A TRANQUILIZER DART."

She's jealous as hell of Kate already because of the hierarchy and the popularity and now the physicality of it all is salt in the wound.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

When my mum's aunt died in 1983, she left a suitcase full of books on the royals. She was partially sighted and they were big A4 books of mainly photographs. I wish we had kept them, I just remember they were mainly about princess May of Teck later Queen Mary.

They are 100% not living at Frogmore, probably never left Nott

I wonder how rough and even brutal William will be towards them when he becomes King. Maybe Harry and Meghan are already divorced when that happens, with Harry having made amends with his brother. I should hope so, for his own sake.

I love the way Kate takes the time and talks to the little boy who gave her flowers.

Photos of Kate today at Bletchley Park.

William met with the Royal Geographical Society today and spoke on illegal wildlife trade--in London. Catherine was visiting the home of the WWII codebreakers to see a special exhibition marking the 75th anniversary of D-Day--in Bletchley Park. Harry had an event at Oxford Children’s Hospital and met with the Barton Neighbourhood Centre--in Oxford.

Yet the DM would have us believe this is also the day W&K finally met little Archie?

R373 - "Someone needs to bring this quote over to Kaiser's board at CB and post it on every BRF thread there. The obsession with royals as 'popular' celebs is nutty."

Good luck with that. It would be modded before it ever saw daylight on CB.

Aw, the little boy at R400 looks so proud and pleased. That was quite a long conversation. He'll remember that for a long, long time. Meghan take note: this is how you make fans and influence people. Popularity grows through ripple effects of these sorts of interactions, not posts advertising a 3,600K "mental health" yoga weekend that 99.9% of her IG followers can't afford. I wonder she took it down after the criticism, but I don't care enough to check.

R399 - It is so startlingly parallel with Wallis and Edward, only the hierarchical roles are reversed - Harry isn't the erring heir to the throne, William, the true heir, is the dutiful representative of tradition and stability, with the right wife for the role. The Windsors were completely shut out of the inner circles when they left, and, in fact, out of England itself. They were virtual outcasts. I predict Meghan and Harry plan to be long gone with whatever celebrity and economic capital they were able to acquire before William has any power over them.

Yes 402. It's obvious the Cambridges couldn't handle anything as strenuous as a short visit to a geographical society and a short visit to meet the new baby. You would think there were 24 hours in a day or something.

R402 - In fairness, London is only a 30-minute drive from Windsor. Bletchely Park, however, is not, nor is Oxford. My guess is that they've either been and gone, or Omid Scobie, as usual was blowing smoke up everyone' arse.

That should be R402 at R406

Oh come on, Scobie only tells what he's told to tell, and it's very rarely the truth.

people would have seen a security + cars, there is no privacy on the frogmore road leadup.

R410 - I doubt those security cars would be marked as such. It's perfectly possible Kate and William made an early visit, stayed less than an hour, and then went about their business.

So now we have two remaining mysteries:

Where are Harkles living?

How did MM get so huge? (A 7 lb baby is fairly small, by the way.)

I thought Harry was taking 4 months of paternity leave? When? After the birth of the next baby?

Everything that comes from the Hazbean household is meaningless lies.

From another site about the alleged Will and Kate pop by to see Master Archie:

Handbag was in Oxford. Kate was at Bletchley Park. William was somewhere. So when did they all have time to travel to Frogmore and they all had engagements across the region? Why didn’t anyone see them? How would they know they visited when W&K move in silence?

Sources say, understood to have, etc. Read: we don’t know what we’re talking about and just writing foolywang or PR spins by Nutmeg/her people."

And please, even though the press isn't doing its job, Frogmore is visible to the public. During the Great Wait, members of the public took pictures of Frogmore and posted them. Not a thing has been done to it. Furthermore, although the media pretended she was there (when they weren't pretending she was protected by armed guards at KP), and the media could see anything that entered the area, nobody saw her leave to go give birth.

You don't renovate a cottage into some supposed 10 bedroom bespoke organic retreat but fail to take the boards off broken windows, replace shingles on the roof and patch holes, and weed the grounds. Nothing has been done to the place. The floating yoga floor doesn't exist.

R412 - I don't think the weight of the baby is necessarily a factor. She might have retained a huge amount of fluid. Prince Louis weighed 8lbs 7oz but Kate didn't look noticeably huge. George was also over 8lbs and so was Charlotte.

Kate is probably weighting her skirts by now. The Queen has been doing it all her adult life. Meg would LOVE an updraft to flash her thong to the world.

R411 don't be a dolt. The media knows what security cars look like without being "marked as such." If a small cortege pulled into Frogmore, it would be noticed. Nobody's at Frogmore, btw. Do your research. The big renovation didn't happen (and couldn't possibly have had everything done to it in the time it supposedly happened). It is the same bedraggled wreck on the exterior it was before it was announced the Harkles were going there.

If it's Omid Skobie, he's a Meghan puppet which means she tells him lies and he passes them on.

Who me? I'm not the type.

R416 - Meghan has already a near Sharon Stone moment whilst pregnant, worn a see through pleated skirt on the Down Under tour, and went to the von Straubenzee wedding in an ensemble with a top button left mysteriously open and armholes through which her black lace foundation undergarment showed.

I see R419 has beat me to it on that last . . .

R417 - A small cortege? We're talking about two people and a few RPOs. Windsor is one of the most protected areas of the country for obvious reasons. I'm not saying they were there - the words "are understood to have" and "reportedly" are amongst the most suspect in media lingo, I share your scepticism. What I am saying is if they did want to make a private visit and keep it private, they'd have managed it.

They wouldn't have managed it. The "cottage" is practically public.

And besides, if they went in without the press knowing, how come it was reported?

Not a tinhatter here (she was pregnant, gave birth to a baby, it wasn't a doll in that photo op etc.) but the Frogmore thing is weird. I do know that the UK press (whether under threat of legal action or just a gentleman's agreement) will often not report on specific comings and goings of the royals, especially to their private homes, but we really haven't heard ANYTHING - on social media, regular media or otherwise, that would indicate they actually are at Frog Cott.

It's been odd from the very beginning - surely the BRF had somewhere to stash the 'Superstars' (lol) that wasn't so visible from public areas? Is it true it hasn't been visibly (from the outside) fixed up? I wish a local would report to us! Security doesn't have to involve 50 car motorcades and sirens to be noticed - royal security is usually easy to spot in London. 2-3 vehicles, traveling quickly, usually Range Rovers or BMW sedans and a police outrider or two. I can't imagine it's any different in Windsor.

Do we not have any locals on the scene who can give us a first hand report?!

Just so everyone knows, Town & Country are also carrying the story:

"Prince William and Kate met their new nephew Archie for the first time today, T&C understands. The couple are understood to have visited Harry and Meghan and their newborn son at Frogmore Cottage in Windsor this afternoon.

There is no further information about whether Will and Kate took their children Prince George, Princess Charlotte, and Prince Louis to meet their new baby cousin. The visit took place after Harry returned from a day of engagements in Oxford where he spoke about being a new father . . ."

Sorry, R422 (and what I assume are your earlier comments), didn't see you made basically the same point as I did in R423.

If they aren't at Frog Cott, and I don't think it's particularly tinhatty to think they're not, surely the media knows. And if they know and aren't reporting, there must be a reason. Wonder what it is. Hazbean seem pretty lawsuit happy so far, and privacy rules are pretty strict in the UK.

Didn't they already tell us Will and Kate visited Frogmore to say howdy?

This is Meghan all over. Nobody pays attention the first story she puts out so she just changes it and puts out another.

R422 - You're naive if you think they can't manage a quiet visit. And it was reported because it was leaked. And it was leaked rather than posted on the royal website precisely not to give a specific time. And Frogmore may be publicly visible but it doesn't mean you can hang out in the driveway loitering to see if the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge show up.

They do know how to do these things when they have to.

You can almost see Kate's cooter in that dress. WTF is wrong with her for wearing that out in public? There's something wrong with someone who likes to flash their ass and genitals

Yes, we have Lazy Bones on the near-scene who is going to scope out Froggie Holler any month now.

Maybe HM did not even gift them the Frog house? How do we know the Frog House ws even granted?

Gift them? They are allowed to lease it.

R429 - Actually, no, you couldn't. It was mid-thigh. And compared to the inch left between viewers and Meghan's snatch in that wrinkled black and white dress with her bare legs crossed ("I feel the kicking of feminism . . ." ah that was a rare moment!), Kate's outfit today was nunlike.

Sugar, you don't know what youre' talking about. At all. YES you can see the comings and goings at Frogmore from the road. There is no way of sneaking in and out.

Leaked by WHO if Markle and Handbag have no staff at Frogmore and the media didn't know about it? Leaked by Sparkle. Which means it's a lie. This is the second time she's pretended they've popped by.

Well, that's out of the way. I'll be at Houghton Hall visiting the Marchioness of Cholmondeley tonight. Apparently, she's having some plumbing issues.

[quote] Meghan has already a near Sharon Stone moment whilst pregnant, worn a see through pleated skirt on the Down Under tour, and went to the von Straubenzee wedding in an ensemble with a top button left mysteriously open and armholes through which her black lace foundation undergarment showed.

She has nothing on Kate, who doesn't like to wear underwear and likes everyone to know it

R431 - Frog(more) House wasn't gifted to them - Frogmore Cottage was, and it wasn't a "gift", it was leant to them. They don't own it, they can't, it's part of the Crown Estates, which is why the UK taxpayer rather than the Queen or Charles was on the hook to pay for the renovations.

Markle put out a whole load of tosh pre-wedding about what she was getting gifted, numerous properties were mentioned. I reckon she's still in the Cotswolds. He heels are always filthy. Mud sticks.......

Her heels, not he...but sometimes I wonder. Those feet and hands are huge.

She looks...hmmmm.....well, she doesn't look very Royal in R419's pic....

But that's the point R428 (and I'm not the one you're directly arguing with) - Frog Cott IS visible - easily - from public areas. Barring there being an ACTUAL network of tunnels (and assuming the Cambridges and the Queen etc. would use them rather than, you know, just being driven to visit their new relation), it's actually really easy to see comings and goings from Hazbean's supposed residence.

As for the news of the visit itself, while I don't find a visit from relatives to be unbelievable, nor do I have any reason to accept anything that Omid Scobie (the originator of this story - other outlets have just picked it up) says. In fact anything he says is automatically assumed to be a probable lie, because he is *the* known Markle outlet (alongside Lainey, although I'm unsure if Lainey is getting fed stories or if she's just willingly volunteering to rim Meg and Haz like the Celebitchy woman is).

R436 - Honey - so far Meghan's worn a transparent skirt so that you could see her panties crossed her bare legs in a very short skirt with her cootch about to make a pre-birth appearance, left buttons open to show her underwear . . . She's giving Kate a good run for her money - only with much less of to boast about.

....

The best part about this "Meg's is a cooter flashing slut, not royal!" vs "NEWP! Kate is a bigger cooter-flashing slut! Not royal at all!" vs "No, Megs" vs "No, Kate" is that it doesn't matter at all, you Megstan! It doesn't matter who loves flashing their cooter more, because only one of those women is married to Alpha Dick William, Future King of England. And it ain't your baby-feet-posting frau-y little fav. I love it.

As for the cooter flashing, both women are attractive. I've seen those yellow dress fly-up pics from Canada (I think?) of Kate early in her marriage. She has fucking AMAZING legs and I am jelly af. Meg is more whatever the opposite of a butterface is. She has a pretty face but her body isn't amazing. Butterbody?

R430, that gave me a mighty guffaw, and practically shamed me into getting into the car and driving an hour to Frog Bottom to see if there are any lights on. Shame though, I'm on my second glass of Malbec and can't be driving. I'm actually going stateside this week, so perhaps after I return to Heathrow I'll detour to Froglet Oaks on my way home for a glimpse.

Careful you don't get irretrievably charmed by any dazzling American superstars while you're there, R445!

I like Kate and think she's attractive (though could use a pound or two). But in photos where she appears with average members of the public, my goodness, she looks like a giant.

Well, I’ve been saying that I don’t think they’re at Froggy Hollow, either.

When a building is being renovated, it’s fairly obvious. There are dumpsters and trucks delivering supplies. There are workers coming and going. Permits are filed with the municipality (maybe not for royals, who knows) for any material changes. Did I mention delivery trucks and personnel? I’m assuming there is a service entrance where they are checked in. Someone must have either seen something or they haven’t seen anything.

I suspect Meghan is directing all the renovations at great cost and then she’s going to stick up her nose at it. Just like a toddler who’s been dictating a very specific and elaborate dish which is the only thing it’ll eat, decides it’s not hungry after all.

R446, I am, in fact, going to Los Angeles. I will do my best to avoid any and all American superstars!

R445 - a safe journey to you, Lazy Bones. Yes, please do drop by Frogmore Cottage and see if there is any life around the place on your return home. Well, any life other than frogs, tourists and planes of course.

Meghan got huge because she’s tiny to begin with. I have a tall lanky friend who didn’t even look pregnant until the last two months. And another who was 4’11” and 90lbs who got HUGE. And they both got thin again, so there goes that notion that pregnancy ruins a woman’s body.

I think they're still at the cottage at Kensington Palace and she had the baby in a private London hospital.

Thanks very much, R450. Somehow I can get myself to Los Angeles, but not to Windsor. I suppose the draw isn't quite as appealing. Will report back sometime in the next few years when I finally drag myself to drive by Froggy Mews.

R447 - Her height is always underestimated - the CB fraus dismissively say she's 5'7" tops, but I think she's about 5'9". But she's small-boned for her height - she's one of those rare anomalies, a small tall girl.

Thank you Lazy Bones, for your not right now, later maybe response. To paraphrase Her Maj, IT IS SO TYPICAL.

She's not 5'7" , no way. In heels, but not natural height.

Jesus, just read the post properly. She's squat, you know. Short, and squat. I think her long legs must give the allusion of height. But nope, she's squat.

So do we believe that Meghan and Harry have ZERO help besides Doria? As commenters on the DM point out, are they also cleaning the bathrooms and emptying the dishwasher and laundering the burp cloths and onesies and grocery shopping and writing thank-you notes for all the gifts from their celeb friends and running to the pharmacy for lanolin and pacifiers and Mustela and making a nice healthy salad for lunch and keeping a notebook on how often the baby feeds?

That is absolute bullshit. Maybe they don’t have a baby nurse. There is NO WAY they are doing all that themselves. Even with Doria the Domestic living in.

Speaking of whom... how can she possibly STAND it? Doria, who seems to be independent and mobile and very busy in LA, trapped in hiding with her entitled delusional daughter pwho’s prone to making the help cry? Do you think Meghan is KIND to her mother? “YOU take it, Doria. It won’t stop making noise.”

Sugars know that everything about Meghan's pregnancy was on the up and up. She was really pregnant. She only baby cupped to bond. She didn't pad at all. The baby was born when they say it was. It's Harry's baby. That little swaddled darling they presented in the Great Hall (public area) of Windsor Castle was the real Archie with his mommy and daddy. So were the feet.

Understandably, they are frustrated that the haters, who are mostly fans of the Cambridges, have all kinds of conspiracy theories about the birth of this newest and most popular member of the royal family. And although Sugars hate the Cambridges, they think if people believe the Cambridges "popped round" it will shut up the haters since the Cambridges have legitimized it. So it is very important to them that people believe the Cambridges disapparated from London and apparated inside Frogcot and back again with nobody seeing.

Meghan thinks the same as the sugars.

I read R454 as referencing the Duchess of Cambridge and R456 as referring to the duchess who married the village idiot.

I don't even think Doria is in London but there is no way Meghan is fobbing that kid onto Doria. First off, the dynamic between Doria and Meghan from what we've seen since Meghan's engagement is not intimate. No shorthand, no eye contact communication, no familiarity.

Markle's former best friend says that Doria was strict and Tom was leniant. Doria is playing her part in this thing but she's about the only one around MM who doesn't seem WTF and intimidated and I will bet Meghan has to mind her ps and qs.

"Permits are filed with the municipality (maybe not for royals, who knows) for any material changes."

Maybe not for royals private property but Frogmore isn't private property. So public permits would have to be filed. There hasn't even been signs of the work for the permits that WERE filed - some basic work that looked like getting it up to code and maybe clearing out the rats warren it is inside.

Just curious how you know "there hasn"t even been signs of the work."

I don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling from Doria or between mother and daughter.

See R448, R463. It's pretty obvious when a property is being renovated.

"Granny, we still haven't staffed Frogmore yet. I wonder if we can borrow a couple maids, a footman or two and a cook."

"I'll have to think on it Harry. You still haven't returned the last maid I lent you and to date no one seems to know what happened to her!"

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

So in other words R465 you have a feeling that Frog Cot has not been renovated.

At least Smeg's had time to get her eyelashes professionally filled. (Helps your face look less catastrophic when your face is the size of spare tire). I don't recall Kate being that vain, but then she didn't need to.

This was a curious little article in The Sun (grain of salt, of course), which seemed to be placed to make preemptive excuses for Her Royal Highness.

It begins: “The Duchess of Sussex was sent a book called The First Forty Days: The Essential Art of Nourishing the New Mother by her mum Doria.” “A source said: “Doria has been speaking to Meghan constantly throughout her pregnancy, and couldn’t have been more supportive.”

(Wouldn’t Doria just hand her the book?)

“The £12.99 tome, by so-called “supermum” Heng Ou, suggests a a 30 day hibernation period.

It recommends banning visitors, social media and socialising in the month after birth, and instead focusing on bonding with the baby, self-care and daily meditation.”

(Banning social media?! Never!)

Anyway, I’m not sure whose side The Sun is on, but this sounded like a lot of hooey, and probably a PR plant. Although if she really were gung ho about the book, wouldn’t she be merching it on their IG?

R469, Kate had her hair and makeup done before she left the hospital. It was widely reported.

R470 this is the third time it's been mentioned here that I've caught, so somebody like you is merchin' that BS.

She had her "friends" tell People magazine that she was soooo busy, even during the faux baby shower in NY, constantly on the phone , giving orders about paint and crap, to the interior designers. And liasing, liasing, liasing on the phone to the workers. That just smells of one big honking rat.

R467, that’s interesting. Are the Cambridges out of Buckingham or Kensington?

I’m telling you, that spoiled bitch had that place decorated and she’s not going to even move in there. Like everything else, she’s going to order it custom made (“three egg whites, baby spinach torn not chopped, finely diced sundried tomatoes I don’t care if you have any find some, and Gruyere and don’t make it with Swiss because I can tell the difference”) take one bite and push it away.

Perhaps Bea and her grifter will be happy with the sloppy seconds that have been done and paid for.

R447. True. Like Giselle Bundchen and Princess Di. 5'10" and slender and beautiful.

The Cannes Festival is on and how can we forget the attention Diana received when she showed up wearing this number.

That Will and Kate would pay a visit to meet Master Archie this afternoon was reported in the UK tabs several days ago. I don't know whether they actually did but the story didn't suddenly come out of nowhere today.

R471, but not her eyelashes and neckrolls like princess fattycakes.

Duch Sux has put on the CUPCAKES! lol.

R472, I wish I were able to merch that shit - could use the cash. Point is it seems like a preemptive strike to me. “Because Meghan is so deeply spiritual, she will be in meditative confinement”. Not just regular old maternity leave, like everyone else, because she’s enlightened, you see. So that’s why she’s in hiding. Not because she’s as big as a house. Nope.

Just as her incessant bump-frottage wasn’t for attention. She was bonnnding!

R451 how many pregnancies? Just the first looks like it ruined Meg's. Of course, it's the second that really wreaks havoc. That's why Meg's ideal mom (Kim Kardashian) started farming out her pregnancies - her body couldn't bounce back. Neither will Meg's.

Pregnancy definitely ruins their bodies. I have read countless times women will say...they pee themselves if they sneeze/laugh etc.

This still cracks me up.

Master Archie listed above the future Kings of England. He’s what, a week old and seventh in line. What did his mother DO for that placement?

R481, of course, simple exercises done daily eliminates that.

R470, it must be difficult to get a good eyelash professional in Froggy Bottom. Here in DC it costs about $250 for the first set and then $100 for fill-ins every month. Whoever is doing her fills needs to work on the corners! They are obviously too deep in the middle and too scant at the edges.

R481, it depends. (no pun intended, but it works). Kate clearly has the body for it. Meg looks like she's still got 2 x 1000mL IV bags stuck inside.

R476 one of my all-time favorite Diana dresses. That ice blue looked incredible on her.

R482, First he'll have to pry that crown out of Charlotte's cold dead hands.

(Not to say that Prince George has anything to fear, but that Princess Charlotte is certainly a firewall against the graspy thirst of the American grifter.)

Kate visited Bletchley where both her grandmother and great-aunt worked during WWII.

R488, I know people think the royal duties are boring, but I’d have loved to take that assignment! Looks interesting.

R481, everyone’s different. Some women bounce back.

The DM in its usual feckless fashion, has an article up announcing that William will not attend Gabriella Windsor's wedding due to the FA cup final on the same day, which he missed last year because of the Sussex wedding.

Scrolling down the article there is a photo of Prince William with a very blonde little girl on the balcony of Buck House who is identified as Lady Gabriella, but who is, in fact, instantly identifiable as Lady Rose Windsor, daughter of the Duke of Gloucester, and the spit of her Danish-born mother. That would be the same Lady Rose Windsor who married the gorgeous Maori hottie14 or so years ago but was quietly divorced from him recently.

They really don't check anything, do they?

Do people believe that Harry and Meghan will make good on their stated intent to protect their son's privacy, or will they publicly request privacy while simultaneously trotting the child out to further their global humanitarian campaign?

The article I referenced also mentions Pippa as a close friend of the groom, when in fact she is a former fuck of his.

Lady Gabriella should make an interesting bride, as she is an attractive but not pretty woman - what the English call "a handsome woman", and she has her mother's big legs. Still, she has style and warmth - I will be looking forward to the photos.

Um, R491 - that’s Lady Davina Windsor in the pic with William. Davina did marry Gary Lewis the Maori hottie. Her sister Rose married another hottie - George Gilman. I believe that they’re still married.

Good taste, those Gloucester girls!

Just reiterating my wish that an enthusiast will post the best photos of the wedding.

R492, depends on how attractive Master Archie is.

R494 - You're right - I thought it was Rose who married the Maori hottie. And, yes, both men are very attractive, indeed.

R460 - Second that about the poster married to the village idiot. Kate, short and squat!

One of the tabloids or magazines had a photo up yesterday of Kate and William coming out of the water at some warm beachy spot some years ago - it might be as early as 2011-2012, Kate in a miniscule black bikini with a halter top, showing a tiny waist and looking simply spectacular.

In my next life, I want to be short and squat like Kate and look like that in a bikini - with William dying to get back to the cabana so he can fuck me.

From 2011:

https www pinterest.cl pin 27303141470878544

Yes, Miss Short and Squat

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Yes R500 - he has since married his now husband.

R468 I will answer you although you refuse to actually read, and comment on things that weren't said.

Frogmore Cottage is visible from a public road. During the Long Wait for the Birth, not only was a small contingent of media set up, but the public would take pictures of the mini media scrum and also photograph Frogmore Cottage, where the weeds, missing shingles and boarded up windows were still visible and unchanged. Why there was any media presence adjacent to a residence in that condition where clearly nobody resides is anybody's guess, but if you think current photographs are a "feeling" I can't help you.

Not to mention logic dictates that a renovation of the extent and specificity claimed by the Duchess of Sussex's pals in the media could not be done in a few months. But be that as it may, boarded windows and missing shingles suggest it's not done at all.

Meghan girl your life is in danger.

Thanks for trying, R502. I thought it too futile to engage when all of the information and answer were already provided. I guess R468 thinks that a dearth of delivery trucks, construction vehicles, workmen over the last several months and the lack any apparent exterior cosmetic improvements mean that that Frogmire is ready for habitation.

r504, the announcement about the Harkles getting Frogmore Cottage was made at the end of November 2018. The flurry of “they’re moving in to FrogCot” news was early April 2019.

That’s four months for a renovation plus interior design and furnishing. Not to mention the organic vegetable garden that was allegedly holding up their move.

That would take a boatload of delivery trucks and absolute TEAMS of people, working round the clock. Just in the past few months, doing outdoor maintenance on our house, we’ve had truckloads of mulch and gravel and pickups full of tools and day laborers. A delivery of wooden fencing. I’m sure the people at the end of the street noticed, and they’re not even camped out reporting to the media about it.

Hmmmm.

R481, that isn't the case with everyone. However, it is more likely with the elderly 1st time moms such as Meg. It's one reason that women who have difficult pregnancies may choose C-sections or surrogates given the choice. A healthy and fit woman such as Kate likely has no worries (proof in how quickly she was up and about and showing off for the camera), but yes, it's a risk for one like Meg.

If Kate, at 5'10" is short and squat, does that make Meg an actual physical troll??

r505 And when you look for the press release on the royal website, annoucing the Harkle's move to Frogmore it does not appear to be there. Very curious.

It was my understanding that the Harkles were told about a month before the wedding that their option was Frogmore Cottage (although when the news came out it was phrased as what the couple "chose" from a menu of options, which no one believed), but that the formal announcement was made quite a bit after the wedding. I think it came out before the tour - which gave them really six months for renovatoins, and we may assume that they started design plans as soon as they were informed. There was plenty of time for renovations - it isn't as if they had to go looking for home improvement financing.

There was also, if I remember, a terse formal announcement by the Palace that the renovations would be paid for out of Crown Estates/Sovereign Grant funds (in other words, taxpayer monies, just as the renovations to Kate's and Wiliam's place in KP was paid for) and that "a full accounting" would be provided in the annual publication of how the CE/SG monies were spent.

So it isn't as if the Palace didn't confirm the plan.

I do seem to remember photos of scaffolding on the cottage - there was also an announcement that Meghan had hired the Soho Farmhouse designer, and of the £50,000 eco-friendly boiler.

I find it difficult to beliieve that with all that out in the public sphere, the Sussexes didn't actually move in, and it's not credible that they moved in with no revnoations.

Perhaps what actually happened is that Meghan was so disappointed with the place that only minor renovations were carried out and she and Harry just don't plan to stay there no matter what the Queen says.

Kensington Palace is right in the middle of London a stone's throw from BP and the Mall, and yet it's not as if we see daily photos of Kate and William driving in and out.

I have never believed that Meghan was anything but angry and disappointed at what was on offer, but a refusal to take it would leave them where? They aren't in the NottCott, they aren't in St. James Palace, they aren't in BP, they apparently gave up the lease on the place in the Cotswolds.

So , backing into the question: if they aren't at Frogmore Cottage - where the fuck are they?

R508, that’s interesting. The Telegraph (is that a reputable outlet?) reported definitively on 4 April 2019 that “The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have moved out of Kensington Palace and into their new home Frogmore Cottage.”

Tee hee hee.

Of course, the royal website also lets one search for the official events of “Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor.

R510 - The Telegraph is a middle-market broadsheet considered respectable if definitely right-of-center. It is not a tabloid. That said, it is also rumoured to have a direct line to Clarence House and to be one of the few publications that is stubbornly pro-Meghan, presumably in response to pressure from her father-in-law. It was the ONLY publication on the planet that tried to make a case (however lame) for that hideous tablecloth de la Renta outfit that cost something like 8,000 quid that Meghan wore to the wedding of Diana's niece shortly after the Sussex wedding. It looked so bad on Meghan that de la Renta hastily took photos of her in it off their web site within hours. It was mercilessly ripped to shreds, metaphorically, by every fashion column in existence - except the Telegraph.

So make of that what you will.

r509 I thought that I read that Anne was moving into Nott Cot as her digs in BP were being renovated. If the Harkles refuse Frogmore, they will have to pay out of their own pocket, which I cannot see them doing...

Sounds like no interviews or photos of Frogmire.

r509, I appreciate your logical comment. I don’t have a logical reason for thinking they’re somewhere other than Frogmore, but I just don’t think Meghan would willingly make it her actual residence.

It came out that the scaffolding was for the mausoleum, which is right near FrogCot.

If they are living in London, him babbling standing in front of the stables at Windsor seems even more bizarre.

Locals claiming it is uninhabited is odd, but to be expected, with these 2.

R513 Of course MM wouldn't appear on camera 3 days before the birth, she was the size of a whale!

R512 - I hadn't heard that - I had heard some rumours about Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank taking NottCott, but not Anne, who really doesn't need more than a bedroom and sitting room, she lives mostly at Gatcombe Park in Gloucestershire. I'd have thought she'd just take a couple of rooms in St. James Palace where Beatrice has some rooms.

So that report about MM missing her 20th reunion made sure to mention that her communication came from Kensington Palace.

The Telegraph article of 4 April 2019 claims the Sussexes’ office will be in Buckingham Palace. Maybe they’re living there?

It’s all so nebulous and chaotic. Well, that’s how the disordered operate. Always obfuscating, never truthful.

R515, even if they were living at FrogMore Holler, his appearance at the stables was odd. Why there? I’m guessing it’s close to a service entrance so that the press could drive up and drive away without seeing anything close to the Cottage. Containment.

R349 the crazy poster at R157 likes to pretend that she’s a well connected member of the English upper class but then forgets not to use American spelling and idiom.

R157 - keep it up, you’re very entertaining! But you need to realise that Her Majesty’s children don’t call her “Mom”.

R518 - But their PR offices were always going to be in BP after the fracas about having their own independent "court" and PR operation. Once that was denied, it was announced that the Sussex's PR offices would be in BP and that their Communications Chief would have to report to the Queen's PR Chief there. So that's no indication of anything re permanent living quarters.

It would be amusing if, in the end, none of this had any significance whatsoever except Meghan's satisfaction in sticking it to the UK media and there's no mystery at all to any of this and the Harkles are living at Frogmore with their absurdly named baby, living off the fat of the land, and preparing for the christening, as Harry returns to officia duties, and Meghan works with her nutritionist, personal trainer, and style coach to regain her figure, hair, and wardrobe, and spring the new, revamped gloriously glamourous Mum Markles on the unsuspecting public at the Trooping the Colour.

R509 - Re: if they're not at Frog Hall, where are they? I don't know! And I'm not 100% certain they're not there. It just does seem very, very odd that there are a)reports the place looks uninhabited and still in a state of gentle disrepair and b) that it's SO visible from public spaces. KP is in central London and has entrances and exits onto public streets, but it's not a single, relatively small building.

Either Hazbean aren't there, or the press are willingly not reporting on comings and goings to Frog Cott. Which is entirely plausible, btw - as vicious as the UK tabloids can be, they're vicious in a measured, shady, between-the-lines kind of way. They know there's a line that they would be in big trouble for stepping over. The public still think of Haz and Will as the poor boys who lost their mum, and the public still to some degree feels the press were responsible for her death. It would be very poor form on the media's part (and they know it) to be seen photographing/reporting on new parents hanging out in the garden with their new baby. So I'm willing to believe there ARE obvious security details and renovating companies and workmen coming and going and the press just aren't commenting on it. It's a long time to not even insinuate anything, though. And the reports of the place looking uninhabited and still in disrepair come, as far as I know, from locals.

I think it would be naive to assume everything we hear from the RF is fact. That said, they - just like the media - know there's a line they can't be seen to cross. Directly lying to the public about an important matter would piss people off and BP doesn't want to piss people off. Lying about a surrogate is outside the bounds of possibility, imo. Lying about where Hazbean are, especially with Hazbean presumably in the background pushing "but we want privaceeeeee!" line hard? It could happen.

Boo to no actual interview with Hazbean or footage of the interior of Wherever The Fuck They're Living. I guess Gayle.Oprah are still hanging on for that big interview. They're very obviously courting Hazbean, and Harry has that thing with O next year. Sooner or later and due mostly to Meghan's inability to turn down a camera lens, I think they'll get their big interview. It's going to need to be dressed up as 'activism' and 'serious business' rather than celeb floof, but Oprah can do that.

Not sure how many people are gonna tune in for the big non-reveal on Friday, though. Is the American channel hyping the fuck out of it or not?

The problem with all these Hazbean conspiracy theories (surrogacy and padding; location of Archie's birth; FrogCott or not? etc) is that they are way out there in league with the non-Moon landing, Paul McCartney is dead and JFK was killed by aliens. The other problem with all these same theories is their subject/s. They are doing everything under the sun to fan the flames of these same crazies, with their own batshit weirdo attention-seeking behaviors and actions. It's no wonder they're a magnet for all this crazy - they've been eliciting it since they married.

r514 It is kind of delicious to imaging the tantrum she threw, looking the gift horse (the queen) in mouth though...lol

You'd better believe it, R487.

I will of course defend the True Heir to the hilt, but if anyone thinks they can knock him out and come for me, they'd better know that my favourite bedtime story is what happened to Mary Queen of Scots.

When is Sam going to reappear and make a fool out of herself?

Why hasn't the media reported on the unfinished state of Frogmire and the lack of activity around it? Presumably, BP led the media to believe that the Harkles are living there or the immediate vicinity. Why else were they camped out there during Sohobébéwatch? How did they miss the 1:30 a.m. hospital run (assuming they have someone there 24/7)? If area residents are taking pictures of its unfinished state and posting on social media, you would think the media would be bringing up the question. Are they not addressing this as a favor to BP in hope of getting something something in return? It's all so strange.

Cause modern media are weak cunts scared of being cut off from easy exclusives or being called mean words on twitter

Forgive me if these questions sound stupid. I am not as knowledgeable as some of you about the BRF. So, Kate and William live in Kensington Palace. Meghan was hoping for an apartment there but was turned down. Is Kensington Palace considered more prestigious than Buckingham Palace? If yes, why?

R530, BP is more prestigious (The Queen lives there), but according to the royal reporters pre-this disaster, an apartment had been set aside for the Ginger Idiot at KP that was more luxurious even than the one William currently inhabits. So if you're someone who recalls that we'd always been told Ginge would live in a nice spot at KP (IIRC, 6 bedrooms, carpets over 100K, etc.), and know that tradition is for the parents to buy the newlyweds a house that they then own, to see him in a run down shack in Windsor that he will never own and not get the KP apartment is a sign that there's some concern about protecting assets in the wake of a divorce and/or extreme discomfort with having Ginge that close to William and the center of royal life.

BP is the large palace where the monarch lives, the one you see in videos with royals waving from the balcony, etc. KP is located a mile or so away, it's a 'smaller' more liveable and more private place comprised of multiple large flats (Britspeak for apartments) where various royals and senior courtiers live. Diana and Charles lived there when married. There are also a few smallish cottages on the grounds, and H & M lived in one of these until they moved out to Windsor. William and Kate live in a very large and grand, 21-room apartment at KP to use when they are in London; H&M were thought to also eventually be granted a similar space there but were denied and instead given a much smaller 'suite' (read: a couple of bedrooms and a sitting room) at BP to use when in town.

One palace is not better than the other, they both had strengths/faults. BP is the home of the current monarch so probably has more fame and cachet.

R530, I wonder the same thing. I’d be happy to live there.

Actually, R532, the "story" about Sparkle & Dim being given rooms in BP is just that - a story. Not confirmed by any official sources. Anything about Sparkle and Dim getting good things should be take with a big dose of salt.

It's also true that the RF all HATE BP. There is a lot of speculation that Charles and Camilla will continue to live at Clarence House when he becomes King.

The Queen and Philip did not want to move from CH to BP when she became Queen.

Also at the current time BP is having major repairs to long overdue building wide services - plumbing, etc.

Thank you for explaining, r532 (although I’m not the one who asked) So the problem - AGAIN - is not that they are getting something bad; they’re just getting less than Will and Kate.

In life, there’s always someone better off than you, and many who are worse off. A competitive person like Meghan are always looking for more and better than the person above them.

A suite/pied a terre at BP is somehow a slap in the face? A newly renovated 5BR on the Windsor estate isn’t good enough? Cry me a river.

Correct if I'm wrong, but no-one actually wants to live in BP. It's an obligation. KP is more luxurious, as is Clarence House (with the addition of being more private). Or Windsor. BP is not the royal preference.

R526, I can totally see HRH Princess Charlotte taking after the royal with the biggest stones of a generation, HRH the Princess Anne.

[quote] ...there's no mystery at all to any of this and the Harkles are living at Frogmore with their absurdly named baby, living off the fat of the land, and preparing for the christening, as Harry returns to officia duties, and Meghan works with her nutritionist, personal trainer, and style coach to regain her figure, hair, and wardrobe, and spring the new, revamped gloriously glamourous Mum Markles on the unsuspecting public at the Trooping the Colour.

This hits the nail on the head for me. The mystery is how anyone thinks there's any mystery at all. Meghan's blog revealed exactly who she is and how she wants to be perceived. Being sidelined by the BRF has enraged her but certainly hasn't deterred her from pursuing her agenda (with Harry's support.) She's maniacally pushing the narrative that they chose all the downgrades (leaving KP, being under the BP umbrella, living in Frogville, etc). I believe they're living in Frogville with their real, live baby who was delivered at a hospital like a regular plebe. The truth is extremely unflattering so they continue to spin and spin. The bottom line is that they still need their annual stipend from Charles.

Thanks to all who answered.

R538 - Perfectly said.

R257, if we could find William wearing a kilt, but with the same swagger as that suit? Oh my... best future King!!

Maybe this is the answer to everyone's question.

wow r542. The source is Woman's Day though - one step about the NE. It wouldn't shock me if true though.

r542, what the fuck. Is that true? If it’s not, the IBTimes is in trouble.

If it’s true, I fucking called it. And it does answer a few questions.

This part: “ The human rights lawyer also made sure that the duchess would have a great stay at their home by leaving her house staff to wait on Markle. She also extended the invitation to Markle’s mom Doria Ragland.”

Well, was the invitation accepted? Isn’t Doria with her daughter and granddaughter?

r544 the original source for the item was Women's Day, which is a pure tabloid known for making stuff up. It's barely above the NE in reliability.

Megan Merkin is the grift that keeps on giving.

So sorry, England. She's your problem now.

R45

Women's Day is not a tabloid but soft news

This made me laugh; from r542...

[quote]In related news, Markle is reportedly under supervision after leaving Buckingham Palace “horrified” when she issued a statement about her estranged father Thomas Markle Sr. in the run-up to her royal wedding. An insider said that the palace was surprised as a key part of being a royal is to never speak out when in doubt.

In doubt? Her?

That’s a lot of lies made up out of whole cloth, then.

R548, I thought that, too. Where else did I see mention of the “when in doubt” thing?

Someone should tweet R542 at Write Life PR and watch her go bananas.

How can it be true, though? Would security and bodyguards just let her go off with the baby? Would Harry allow that?

Offered for your viewing pleasure: the very manly grandfather, HRH Prince Philip

I just discovered that Tumblr deleted the Skippy blog. That stuff was crazy and fed the Meg haters on here. Does anyone know who this Skippy person might be and why she or he was so full of Meg hate?

Skippy is back on a 2.0 blog, R552, do keep up.

So did Will and Kate visit the baby at Amal’s? LOL. Meghan was staying in the Clooney house without Doria, even? Wearing the Clooney twins’ hand-me-downs? That’s hilarious.

I’d love this to be true.

Maybe she did take off with the baby for a day or so. I’m just trying to imagine how that went. Did she pack a diaper bag and order an Uber? Does she have a chauffeur? Would Harry’s order override hers?

Postpartum hormones are wacky shit, man.

I suspect Skippy might lean towards this in appearance. She also may be using a hulk fist, as her metaphor to smash through the lies and treasonous actions Meghan as brought to the monarchy. All speculative at this point, mind you.

R555, you sure that's not Meg? The face is a little small for Meg, but it would explain her hiding from the cameras.

[quote]Does anyone know who this Skippy person might be and why she or he was so full of Meg hate?

No and why should we care. Stop obsessing about this Skippy person here. Lots of people dislike Megs, some more than others. If they want to do tumblr feeds that get clipped, that's their business. This isn't Tumblr.

R555, I was picturing Nutty Madam or Kathy Bates as Annie Wilkes, but same idea, yeah.

Meg, your baby's stomach is the size of a ping pong ball. Why do you look like you ate a turducken?

Thank you, R557.

How did DL end up with someone who stalks those who post on Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr, etc.?

What's wrong with finding pure devotion or pure hate for the BRF fascinating?

R544 What is NE?

Kate looks great in purple.

Agreed R563, she does look great in purple. People often love her in the 'jewel' tones but honestly I love her specifically in a lilac or orchid shade of purple. She doesn't look bad in a deep green or a sapphire blue, but that particular shade of purple looks better on her than anything barring maybe a true red. She also suits pale pink, and pale blue less so, in my opinion.

Earlier today on this thread someone posted a photo (taken today or yesterday iirc) of William getting out of a car and goddamn was he ever projecting his new Alpha Dick William Big Alpha Dick Energy.

He was at times painfully shy and awkward as a teen, especially with the public (not blaming him, it would take a preternaturally confident adolescent to be able to play off screaming, crying girls as just another day at the office) but just lately, these past 1, possibly 2 years, he seems to be coming into his own. So does Kate. I wonder if he knows how lucky he was to snag her? She really understands that her role is to make him look good. Not a role I would have chosen for myself, but she's very, very good at it.

It'll be interesting for the public to see how the Hazbean pairing evolves from the obvious honeymoon stage clutching at each other spiked with that maternal-type affection she often shows for him. My money is on a bitter divorce, but I could be wrong.

If the UK press just stopped covering them completely, no attention at all - that’d be their best revenge.

Long game and goal is US attention but it’d be amusing for the time being for them to all unite and flip the switch, erase them from the headlines.

And in order for the press, who have no code beyond "does it get clicks," to stop covering them, we'd have to stop clicking. What'd be interesting to see is how many of those clicks come from evil haters like me.

Meghan showing signs of old lady parchment crepe decolletage. She nasty.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Wiry scruffy hair is all that is hiding daddy's flappy ears.

Seems William inherited Spencer ears.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Jesus, 150 posts in just one day from the frenzied Megxiteer who thinks the Windsors are not living at Frogmore and that Doria is not in the UK. I guess with Skippy's blog being deleted, she had nowhere else to vent about 'Sugars'.

So much time spent on hating. Must be exhausting, especially as nobody engaged with her.

'Stop obsessing about that Skippy person here'.

Bossy R557 IS Skippy or similar. Always gets angry when her leader's name is mentioned and tries to shut down any criticism.

William's teeth are so ugly. They go straight back like a rodent's. Harry's are much better.

NE = National Enquirer

William needs to lose weight. That double chin is not a good look on a guy who isn't even 40.

William's teeth are strong, straight and healthy-looking, but they are crying out for whitening.

When are they getting rid of her?

Yes, Kate looks like a prairie schoolmarm in that dress. A prairie schoolmarm who has great sex on a regular basis.

And I also think she was sticking it to Yoko by appearing in that dress, with her fucking insane legs flashing.

Get it gone. Catastrophe needs to go -- I'll watch from the balcony.

Balcony! Hmmmmmm.....

New thread for those on The Baby is Revealed

Kate looks really good in that purple dress

The DM has once again buried an item about the future King William and his pretty wife visiting the Suxx baby. They're giving those two the deep freeze, it would appear.

Check the new thread Skippies vs Sugars to vote about Archie Windsor's identity.

R582 Now Belle Gunness -- there's an interesting story. Twisted, but interesting. The current tabloid fare is well, twatter.

This necklace appeals to me. Maybe because it's so simple, but the diamonds are headlights. Worn with other necklaces, evidently. Again, the sheer weight of multiple ropes of gems couldn't have been easy to deal with.

Prince Harry reveals he 'can't imagine life' without Archie - but admits the baby kept him up last night.

WTF! You had been single without a child for the first 34 years of your empty life. Oh such a thoughtless and moronic comment.

R589 It's the best he can do.

Okay, all of that and it's still just a sincere feeling that the Harkles couldn't be at Froggie. Okay. Receipts will be helpful whenever. Btw, the BP rooms will not be available to the Harkles until the end if the year, apres renovation.

Frogmore Cottage has 10 bedrooms. It is huge. Perhaps one window is boarded up but the place is massive so it doesn't matter. There is a helipad where guests can land unseen.

But sure a heli would be noticed arriving and leaving Frog Cottage ?

Here's Part 56 But finish out 55 before turning the lights out, will you? Ta

Or they could stay at Windsor Castle for the moment till the baby is a few weeks old ! Its also a possibility . It would explain PH at the horse stables for his announcement .

They'd need the Queen's permission to do that, r595. Maybe, but I suspect she's at Amal's and he's in London, visiting her on and off while she and Doria "settle in"

I wrote a comment on cb saying they would criticise william if it was him in Harry's place leaving a young baby to go all these places and surprise kaiser didn't publish it.

They are going in nastily on Kates outfit and appearance yesterday. The hypocrisy and bullying is unbelievable.

You mean in their invisible helicopter, R593? Is that from the same manufacturer as Wonder Woman’s invisible plane?

What are they saying about Kate's outfit and appearance, R597? If you don't mind, that is, supplying a few tidbits?

Drab and fashion deadweight, inappropriate, looked better on abigail. Oh and also justifying meghans spending because she does more work all the while saying what kate does can't be called work.

Saying it's old fashioned and she looks fug and frumpy and a hoe for flashing her inner thigh.

Harry has been seem more since the baby has been born...lol!

R596 that’s also possible I think . She staying at Amal House and PH staying in London in Nott Cottage .