British Royal Family Gossip: Part 46

Pleeeeeeeeze can we talk about Charles and Di, too!!!

R1 - videos just for you!

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R1 and R597 from the other thread: Thanks!

R3 - You're welcome!

Prince Harry really is fugtastic these days.

I hope Baby Sussex has olive skin, thick dark wavy hair and intense blue eyes, like Diana.

It's the May Bank holiday in Britain. Is that a good time to give birth?

Were there any good times between Charles and Diana during their marriage, or was it all a struggle?

Worse case scenario for Baby S's looks?

Ginger afro, huge facial freckles, small dark eyes, Harry's nose and jawline.

Diana said the closest they were was just before Harry was born.

R7, the actual Bank Holiday is on Monday. NHS hospitals are under funded and under staffed, so why knows?

Isn't the service for the Royal Victorian Order tomorrow?

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R8, Charles was more educated and intellectual than Diana, but he did find her physically very attractive. Once the shine wore off that, he looked elsewhere.

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Wtf is Kate's stylist wearing on her head? Surely Kate can do her own styling?

R13 = Lizha

I predict that when there is an announcement from the parents, the baby's gender will not be mentioned, or presumed.

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They baby will have brown eyes but newborn's eyes will change color as they grow older (usually become darker), baby will be fair skinned.

Is Kate going to ship George off to board at Eton? I can't see Meghan doing that with her sprog.

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'They baby will have brown eyes but newborn's eyes will change color as they grow older (usually become darker), baby will be fair '

Nearly all babies are born with blue eyes. Indigo blue if they're going to be brown. I don't think the blue eyed gene is very strong in Di's boys, or the Cambridge kids would have blue eyes.

R16 Kate can't do her own styling. Pre princess prep, she was a hot mess. Natasha's styling is boring, but she is one of the best things to happen to Kate (surpassed only by (Carole, William and George)

She does lose points for those silly headbands of course.

R25, Kate can't do her own photography well either, but here we are.

I honestly think MM will have extensive procedures before photos, which will be heavily edited and enhanced before release. No authentic pics, and she will likely sell them to the highest bidder.

R26 - oh do shut up. Kate's photography is fine for an amateur.

I know Diana studied dance somewhat seriously, but to me she always looked stiff and awkward dancing with Charles. Maybe that was his fault. I so wish we had video of that “uptown girl” dance she did onstage, that made Charles cringe. In retrospect, I can certainly understand his side of it. It was an extraordinary thing for the princess of Wales to do. Imagine if Kate or Meghan did such a thing even today.

Oh, and I wish we had video of her dancing with Travolta. There is a photo of that moment, and it’s remarkable in that the people in the background are mostly not looking at them.

R28 Kate's photography is sometimes celebrated as if she's doing something amazing. She has a good camera, an amazing team of assistants and all the time in the world with subjects that she knows very well. The images are lovely but not exemplary.

Meghan could certainly use a stylist and a signature look. I think she would look good in the styles favored by Queen Letizia.

Oh my god, there are some desperates bashing in the thread already. Well deserved, Natasha Archer. Natasha is lovely, as is her styling. Can't see Heidi BalloonyFace ever receiving such an honour.

Meg won't have any procedures if she is breastfeeding, which I'm sure she will be.

She was out and about at 8 or 9 months pregnant, looking huge, so she can't be that vain. I think she'll lose weight quickly, though.

R32, calm down, Kate Troll!

I have to admire Diana's love of dance, but it didn't come naturally to her. But she enjoyed it, and that is all that matters.

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' No authentic pics, and she will likely sell them to the highest bidder.'

How many times? The Royals NEVER sell pictures of themselves. You sound utterly uninformed and ridiculous.

R33 Procedures include injections (botox, fillers, etc...) and are not limited to surgeries. So yes it's likely she'll have botox to her jawline to keep her bulky muscles from coming back. Botox effects on jawlines usually wear off 6-7 months especially if the patient's massetter muscles are very prominent/ strong to begin with, which in MM's case looks likely.

Peter Phillips and Autumn Kelly did.

And Zara and Mike have.

Especially Zara and Peter Phillips never do it, R37.

Yes Mia's first pictures were sold to Hello.

R34 why is R32 a Kate troll for linking photo of nasty no-talent "stylist" that Meghan calls best friend?

R38, you can't have Botox and fillers when breastfeeding. What is the matter with you? Dumb and desperate. Her face looks fine as it is. She has great bone structure.

Queen Letizia's style probably would be rejected by Meghan as not being high fashion enough. Letizia wears a lot of Zara with more expensive pieces.

R43, anyone who is OTT praising Stepford is a Kate Troll, Fuglicia.

Didn't praise Kate, nutty, praised her stylist.

I still say it's twins (by whatever means) and that's the big "Surprise!" and how she plans to break the internet and get her big buzz and big head lines that will last more than a day or so.

R44 Honey you're the one who's dumb and desperate defending Meghan's great bone structure. I worked for plastic surgeons as a side job while I was a RN going for my master's. Yes, new moms who BREASTFED got botox and injections all the time. You just have to wait a couple of days before you breastfeed, which the moms do because they have supply of pumped breast milk. Please educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself lecturing others.

Meghan and Harry will release one picture of Baby Sussex on their IG and that will be it. The Kate fraus here will scream 'fake' and 'photoshop'.

Just about any royal could aspire to Queen Letizia's look, and the fact that she can achieve it including High Street pieces does her credit. It is rare that she looks anything but elegant, stylish, and appropriate for the occasion.

To everyone who is insulting four year old Charlotte, will you please go on one of the Sadie Sandler threads?

Charlotte is a lovely and poised young lady.

R49, she is 37, not 47, and her face looks great now in pictures, so there is no way she'd risk censure by going anywhere near a cosmetic surgeon.

I think they’ll sell the photos of the baby.

I also think no one will care by then.

Whatever mag buys the photos is going to be left holding the bag.

'To everyone who is insulting four year old Charlotte, will you please go on one of the Sadie Sandler threads?'

And yet again, the Kate Troll tries to police the thread. The fug is strong in ALL the Cambridge crotch droppings. Not one of them has inherited Kate or Wills' looks.

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R53 I'm talking about botox to her jawlines which gives her face a totally different shape, she looks way better with it than without, and I'm sure she knows it too. Also the no breast-feeding for 2 days was a rathe be too safe than sorry guideline from the offices I'd worked, with botox all you need to do is avoid breastfeeding for about 12 hours. I saw many mommy-makeovers where I used to work.

R9, yep, if Mother Nature has a sense of humor!

The freckles, naturally will come in a few years.

'I think they’ll sell the photos of the baby.

I also think no one will care by then.

Whatever mag buys the photos is going to be left holding the bag.'

Why do you keep saying nobody will care? Heghan are a popular couple here and everyone is looking forward to seeing the kid. Multicultural Londoners love Meg.

Stop calling me a Kate troll.

Damn it.

R52, you are a foul mouthed poster who.is obsessed with Kate and you like to police the thread - hence, Kate Troll!

Boring and unnecessary thread.

R587 from previous thread.

Pippa is a very attractive young woman. To me, however, she does not look English, but American!

She has a sexy 1960s vibe about her.

Kate, Pippa and Meg all have fabulous figures.

R61, oh very well.

Although I wasn't policing the thread as much as having a dig at Adam's offspring....but whatever...

R64, and each has a mole above her lip!

As did Diana!

R66, Diana's mole, if that is what you want to call it, was absent in most of her USA photos. I only noticed it in European publications, if that is possible.

Pippa is a stupid name, though.

Kate is much better.

80 year old Skippy is on a roll.

R68 - Pippa is her nickname. Her real name is Philippa.

This baby will be Liz and Phil's 8th great-grandchild!

And 8 is a lucky number, so there's that.

I think when William and Kate released the pictures of the BD kid, they deliberately chose pics in which she looked the most like the grandma....to tug at her heartstrings. Yes, you may have a new grandkid but look at this one, she looks sooo much like you! Our kid is better than theirs...yes, it's like a competition to these straight motherfuckers.

R70, right, and Catherine is so much prettier than Philippa as a name, no?

Pippa went through a period of looking decidedly downmarket with orange, fake tan and heavy makeup. Her face is unfortunate in that she bears an uncanny resemblance to the hated Duchess of Windsor. But I do think her figure is enviable, way better than Kate's IMO.

R72, interesting theory, but something tells me that Elizabeth is beyond that sort of vanity.

Vote for the Royal Baby's name here!

R74, Pippa and Kate are lucky to have each other.

Kate seems closer with her sister than Diana was with either of her two sisters.

Or do I have no idea what I am talking about?

Kate and Pippa have very similar figures. Meghan bordered on too skinny before her pregnancy.

I wish they name the baby after a place. How about Africa? There are people, even celebs or celeb sprogs who are named after places: Brooklyn, Asia, China, Savannah.... Here in SF we have a Black female mayor who grew up in the local projects, her first name is London.

Ava Microsoft Windsor.

Yep, getting $ for the branding.

Isn't this a logical extension of merching? Not for the BRF, being sarcastic here, but for Instagram influencers/ reality show participants.

Meghan has the worst figure...no tits and no waist!

Meghan has lovely slender legs and she has a tiny waist. Fergie and Beatrice are the only royals with big boobs.

Priscilla! As in the wife of Mark Zuckerberg!

Kate has the height to look great in most anything she wears.

R79, Vienna or Sienna might be options but I think Meghan will go for something very traditional, like her wedding dress.

R82, Fergie or Eugenie?

I think she will give the kid an "Ameican" name.

*American

R78 Pippa has a smaller musculoskeletal build than Kate, on top of being more petite in height. She's just more petite overall and has a more spritely figure than Kate.

Meghan's figure is problematic from a fashion standpoint. She has a wide, almost barrel-like upper torso devoid of a definitive waistline, with short neck and square shoulders. Plain language: she has a squat upper body. That's why she need to go with really simple lines and short instead of long skirts/ dresses in order to elongate her figure. I think her legs can do with some weight-bearing exercises to increase muscle mass, tone up those calf muscles.

R85, Meg seems tiny all over, although she has pied out during her pregnancy.

Jobs for the boys (and girls). Time we got a DLr on the inside to report news back with authority. Anyone willing to take one for the team?

No bust on the royal ladies? What about those low slung girls on the queen and Camilla?

The Queen Mother, The Queen and Princess Margaret ALL had big busts. Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice take after their mother Fergie as well as the Windsor ladies. Camilla's bust is big too.

So - BP confirms the baby is still in utero, the announced due date is late April-early May, it IS early May - and Harry is announced as taking off on an overnight event in Europe in . . . early May?

I think it's quite sad that women who have great busts when they are younger have to succumb to the matronly look later on in life, when they drop. Even though the Queen has such magnificent tailoring, and corsetery, ( or is it corsetry? ) , when those old girls drop, they really go south, don't they? Same with my mother, and she didn't have the Luxe attire, but no-one can really hide it.

Having a close sister is the best, R77.

The British public love Merry. Only bitter Americans dislike them.

R92, old folks such as myself will remember:

"Do your tits hang low? Do the wobble to and 'fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?" etc. etc.

A C cup is the best size. Some fullness but doesn't droop.

Can you thow 'em over your shoulder, like a regimental soldier, do your tits hang looow!

Harry has been ordered by Meegan to fetch her some high quality weed, stat. She used to be able to get it onto a plane herself, usually hand delivered by various friends beforehand. Her travel has been hampered for a while. I also imagine she will resume the heavy coke use which she was famous for on Suits. Especially since she won’t be breastfeeding her surrogate born twins.

She must have ave given herself permission to indulge in her fave treat, mounds of ice cream, to attempt to look pregnant.

Problem is, when she does that, the wide African nose grows back. She may have to have another nose job to get it back to her preferred size. Let’s hope she doesn’t go all Margo Thomas Natalie Portman with the beak slicing.

You can always have surgery to have your breasts reduced. I started getting that matronly look in my midthirties, had a reduction then. Immediately after the surgery the age people were guessing me to be was about 5 years younger, though my face looked the same. More women should do it.

R101, do you have dementia?

We're like dads in a 60s-sitcom maternity wing waiting room. Can't wait till we can faint at the news and then pass out cigars.

R99, yes, you've got the A, the B, the C, and the D is the biggest.

R99, yes, you've got the A, the B, the C, and the D is the biggest.

JFC what are the fraus here going on about the best sort of bust size. Fuck, this thread has really gone too shits.

Maybe that's her push present? A suitcase of skunk from the Dam.

She's in the wrong country if she's got a cannabis addiction. Best to hot foot it back to California.

There was a blind about one of her closest friends trying to get hold of weed for the morning of the wedding. Can only imagine it was her make-up artist. If it's true, that must have been funny, he looks a right tit.

Not sure that's true, I could get hold of weed in about 20 minutes if I wanted to where I live in the UK.

Yeah, but isn't he American?

R37, Meghan Markle is not royal and thumbs her nose at royal protocol. If she wants to sell photos, she damn well will.

Meghan gave out bags of marijuana to the guests at her first wedding in Jamaica.

Weed smoking causes premature wrinkles!

Large breasts on an older woman always look matronly, even if they’re propped up.

R82 is a DM writer. “Lovely slender legs” means chicken legs.

Eugenie is pretty fugtastic and plump.

Lucky bastard.

I bet Eugenie in person is actually normal-to-slim looking, albeit with a big bust and bones. It's hard to grasp because most of the public figures we see are so stick thin our view is distorted. It's like when I was a kid watching "White Christmas," I always thought of Rosemary Clooney as fat because she had to stand next to Vera Ellen. In truth she was probably tiny like all of them, at least at that point in her life.

^ Sorry I actually meant Beatrice, but applies to Eugenie, too.

Just came across this photo.

R116 - the poster is clearly trolling as one of Meghan's most obvious physical drawbacks is her complete lack of a waist. She's a box between the shoulders and hips.

Harry's making a Ganja run to Amsterdam, and picking up Sussex bebe on the way back. All is well.

Oh, you must be right, R123.

Reminiscing.

R123, yes and also having an orgy or two...

Oh I'd piss myself if we woke up to more of this, Amsterdam style, next week. Looool.

This one's better.

Hey we've seen Kate's boobies when she was sunbathing.

A little Harry tushie is no biggie.

R129 - Kate was sunbathing with her husband. Harry was having his photo taken and shared by a sleazy opportunity with whom he was sharing a hotel suite in Vegas.

^*opportunist

Egads, those polio legs!

(Bright side to the coat stunt, it distracted the eyes from those godawful stems of hers.)

Why is there a star over his hole?

"Megan has lovely slender legs and she has a tiny waist." Translation: "Built like her father but short. No waist, or tits, barrel chest, flat broad ass and chicken legs. Looks terrible in almost everything she tries to wear."

R133, lol.

The same reason that there is sometimes a star on women's nips in tabloid photos.

NSFW and all that.

[quote] You sound utterly uninformed and ridiculous.

This goes for virtually every post in this series of 46 threads.

Is it finally over?

Damn! MM was decked out in rings for the Eug's wedding!

Meg is Hollywood skinny and very photogenic.

Can we have a summary of all of DL's nicknames for Meghan?

Sparkle, Megalomaniac, ...help me out here please...

Our favourite is Yoko.

Smegs, Smeggy, Smegma, DINO, Grifter.....

My favourite for the two of them is “Ginge & Minge” - makes me laugh every time.

Oh yes! Lol! Good ones! And Ginge and Cringe.

MeghAntoinette

DINO?

WTF has happened to this thread, as a card carrying frau can all my fellow fraen please stop taking about mammaries and go to say mumsnet and knock yourselves out. To the person who keeps mentioning Zara and Peter Phillips selling photos, they are private citizens, they don't get money from the crown so they can do whatever the fuck they want.

Megaladon, like the gigantic prehistoric shark.

Oh, nm got it.

Duchess in name only?

From the royals and their staff, Me-gain, Duchess Difficult and Tungsten

From what the Paddy Power spokesman said, the baby is a girl and was born today, May 2nd. Name could be Alice or Grace.

You got it R149

Queen Letizia was divorced and her sister revealed that Letizia had an abortion, so she is the first known Abortion Queen.

In case this hasn't been posted here yet...or if it has. This thread doesn't mind repetition.

I mentioned Zara and Phillip. I'm a fan of them both. Yes, they can do what the fuck they want. But a poster above was saying that members of the royal family can't sell photos. Money from the crown wasn't mentioned.

One of the comments on R154 added "how much will it cost? Lots and lots!"

Zara is also attaching her name to the marketing of numerous items now, including a rather hideous collection of "equestrian-themed" jewelry.

So actually, Zara is the most merching royalish now.

Those second tier sort-a royals need money. Especially Zara, now that her husband will be essentially unemployed for the rest of his life as his rugby career is over. Maybe he can get a job as a rugby coach at Eton, with a good recommendation from Wills.

Here is a particularly awful piece from the "Zara Phillips" Calleija Collection.

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Merching Zara and "King of Nepotism" Phil are sure finding their way to stay afloat in their highfalutin world.

Zara merching for Rolex....this girls on fire with the merching!

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Pity that Anne didn't marry well - her children have to resort to such vulgarities to earn some extra quid.

So froglet forthcoming?

Last night, I was laying in bed looking out at the night sky. Naturally my thoughts wandered from hopes, and secret dreams to one dream in particular. That dream? Dreamboat Andy. Gays, and frauen...as you can imagine "down there" became tingly. I opened up my laptop, and went to seancody.com, which I usually do anyway. This time however, nothing really helped my baton buzz. I decided to make my wishes come true, so off to work I went. After completing my masterpiece of masturbatory material, I was soaring on the wings of the lusty angels.

I know with the royal birth upon us, we are stressed and worried. Perhaps I can pass on a way to help us blow off steam, and flick your beans. Please let me know if my artwork healed your soul, as it has healed mine.

I'm howling R165, lol lol lol lol! Bravo!

R157 You silly MM Stans just don't get it do you? Zara and Peter can merch away, Zara can pose naked on a horse with only her ugly necklace on and sell the photos if she wants. They are private citizens they are not funded by the British taxpayer, they don't get free houses and clothes from Prince Charles, they don't have massive security detail, they don't get a yearly wage from the Crown etc etc. Yes Zara and Peter cash in on their connections, yes they are privileged but bottom line they can do that. MM is not supposed to cash in because she is paid fucking thousands by the Crown for being a working HRH.

'MM is 'not supposed to cash in because she is paid fucking thousands by the Crown for being a working HRH. '

Why are you getting so worked up over a hypothetical situation? She hasn't sold any of her pictures.

Talking of Randy Andy, I'm old enough to remember the rumour that Fergie and Andy broke up because she caught him in bed with one of his Navy buddies

R141 No I don't think Yoko fits at all. Yoko Ono for those who don't know, came from one of the oldest/ grandest and wealthiest families in Japan. Her family clan dates back to the 1400s, it's as old money and status as you could get. Think of it as the Japanese version of coming from dukedom of Devonshire or Norfolk. Weird and drugged out as she was when she hooked up with John, Yoko could not be compared to Meghan.

Oh dish R169 honey!

'No I don't think Yoko fits at all. Yoko Ono for those who don't know, came from one of the oldest/ grandest and wealthiest families in Japan'

Imagine if Harry had married some fugly Japanese woman instead of an American. Grim. Thank goodness he didn't.

R168 Oh dear you really need to read what I said, I was talking about MM merching in general which she does already.

Per lap dog Omid Scooby-Doo on January 14th :

[quote]The day also saw the couple even more candid about their impending parenthood. “It’s very exciting,” Harry told a local in the crowd after unveiling a plaque commemorating 100 years since the death of poet Wilfred Owen. And Meghan, who admitted pregnancy has “flown by,” dropped her biggest hint about her due date, admitting she was six and a half months pregnant to a young female fan.”

Just because Harry is moron and can't do math doesn't mean everyone else can't put 2 and 2 together and end up with an answer of WTF?

The Harper's Bazaar article referenced in R174

Add Imelda Markle to the list.

R171 Just a really old rumour that went around at the time of their separation I honestly can't remember where I heard it but it was a definite rumour a the time. I think people were confused why they stayed as such close friends despite her public "toe sucking" and thought she had some dirt on him.

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I'm a Scouser. I doubt many Scousers of the time knew of Yoko's background. Nor still do. But Markle is Markling the RF, like Yoko Yoko'd The Beatles.

I was completely into wanting to see the baby until they pulled this never ending impending birth bullshit.

Now I refuse to click or god forbid buy any publication announcing the birth/ publishing photos.

A Japanese-English Princess would be interesting.

We're watching a soap where kids get SORASd or one of the characters is pregnant for a year and a half.

R179 Yeah I doubt many knew of Yoko's personal or family history back then because she presented herself as an artist instead of a talentless hack from a wealthy and high-ranking family. I mean FFS she was a classmate of (now former) emperor Akihito! For a Japanese woman of her generation, to speak English that well and attain that level of education was indicative of her family status. I'm not sure how much of her history she divulged to John but I think they were both zonked out of their brains on so many psychedelics that it didn't matter. She sure had a hold on him and he sure did respond to her in a way that he never did anyone else. The open marriage thing at the end was interesting, what an odd couple.

Maybe Meghan is more of a Linda Eastman. Linda was a sort of a groupie, albeit one from a well-to-do family, and snared Paul McCartney, who had issues over losing his mother at a young age. I’ve never understood why Linda got less blame than Yoko. Wasn’t she inserting herself in Beatles business as well?

And then came Heather. In fact maybe what Harry needs is a talk with Sir Paul.

One of my favourite comments ever in the Daily Mail was " Meghan Markle is Heather Mills with an extra shoe ".

Megnancy= a gestation that last forever and produces nothing but rumors.

did no one notice that the woman in the low curtsy was GOOP? She put a theatrical spin on it

Wait, 6 1/2 months pregnant in mid-January (per Harper's Bazaar) means she was 9 1/2 months in mid-A pril.

R184 LOL good point about Meghan being more Linda Eastman. I think Linda maybe perpetuated or hinted that she was from the famous Eastman family (Eastman-Kodak fame), when she wasn't. Linda got Paul to become vegetarian or other way around? Regardless, they were also both joined at the hip doing things together as a unit with Linda performing in The Wings when she had no musical training. She kept him on a tight leash to keep eye out for groupies perhaps, what better way to do it than to be in the same band? Doubt they'd have an open marriage like the Lennons did at the end.

Why would she breastfeed? It would ruin her breasts.

^ I mean, that was what she told another pregnant woman. But even if she were only 6 months, it still means 9 months at mid April.

I think she's had it. I just can't believe no one has leaked it.

So many jealous 200 lbs fraus on this thread who would love to look like Meghan.

I think she had the baby too but they've managed to keep a tight lid on it until the big reveal, as only fitting of the Deal or No Deal Girl. At least she learned a few tricks from that embarrassing gig.

Uurgh

BP went on record earlier today to say the Duchess of Sussex has not delivered the baby yet.

R138, you know what we say about “beringedness” here at DL...

Yep, but at around 11pm yesterday here (it's 1.42am now in the UK) the spokesman of the biggest Bookies, PaddyPower, suspended all bets on the delivery date or gender of the baby after a suspicious flurry of bets on yesterday and a girl. They rarely do that, so I think the official announcement will be tomorrow.

So judging by Harry's math and assuming BP is not fibbing, that makes Meghan's 10 months pregnant. Let's hope for the baby's sake that Harry went to Trump's School of Bad Math.

A girl, blue eyes, dark hair, called Rosa Elizabeth Diana.

According to Marie Claire she told Jessica BalloonyFace she was pregnant in the August. Work that one out, DLers!

Why would anyone want to look like Markle?

Despite how she makes a living, she is not attractive. That’s one thing that’s fascinating about her.

'So judging by Harry's math and assuming BP is not fibbing, that makes Meghan's 10 months pregnant. Let's hope for the baby's sake that Harry went to Trump's School of Bad Math'

What are you spazzing on about, stupid conspiracy theorist? Behave like an adult, or fuck off.

'Despite how she makes a living, she is not attractive. That’s one thing that’s fascinating about her'

She's very attractive, which is why she was kept on Suits for seven years. Denying it makes you look really, really stupid (and probably 200 lbs). Fat old fraus always envy young, skinny, rich ones.

She's thin, but her figure's nothing to write home about.

R203, you sound quite mentally ill.

Fuck off R202 I'm one of the sane ones here who consistently tell off Meghan not pregnant ass wipes. Lighten up and don't take everything in such an antagonistic way, which part of my part signals me as a conspiracy theorist? Go fuck yourself.

Saying she's ten months pregnant is inferring she isn't really pregnant, moron. If you're not a Meghan Truther, do a better job of not posting like one.

You ancient fraus do realise that modern pregnancy tests will tell you that are pregnant as early as TWO WEEKS in, don't you? Or are you stuck in the dark ages when nobody can tell until three months in.

R207, it's not my fault you jump to conclusions that allow you to tsk tsk other people. I was mainly joking about Harry's bad math/ mental deficiencies, with inference about 10-month+ babies being medical oddities. Why don't you not jump on others' throats next time when going by "inferences", there's an idea. Ask first before striking.

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Some people count pregnancy in lunar months. A lunar month being exactly 4 weeks and a pregnancy exactly 10 months.

I have seen a lot more women using that system the last several yrs.

A bit like Angelina too.

Most OBs go by 40 weeks.

omg, these poor modern women, having to be pregnant an extra month.

R211 The only people counting in lunar months are nutters who think they are having their baby at Hogwarts

R209, I am jumping on all the Ct-ers, haven't you noticed? Especially the main one.

Actually, in the US, OB/Gyns and their patients measure pregnancies by week. A full-term pregnancy is 40 weeks. At 42 weeks, the baby is considered past due and will be induced.

40 weeks is 10 months.

The lunar cycles are known to have a big impact on pregnancy and menstruation, r215.

Meanwhile for those of us back on planet earth and not counting lunar months, you can have a transvaginal scan and it can pick up a pregnancy at 6 weeks, even earlier sometimes especially after an embryo transfer in IVF

R219, the tests you can buy from chemists pick it up at TWO WEEKS because of changes in hormone levels in the urine. So need for any scans, Fuglicia.

Why do some posters take it so personally if the mention of surrogate or alternative is made? Her bump varied in sizes throughout, dates are conflicting...and seems a lot of secrecy in the last month or so. Could be many things...she’s too much of attention addict to keep away from public. She could be ill, or baby,complications, etc If they had someone else carry the pregnancy, which celebs do on the regular now btw...it would be the,outing to her to follow Kim K or Beyoncé. She’s a celeb copycat .

I can't believe someone's trying to convince everyone that pregnancy is now a ten month process, because...Meghan.

^she sure is shaking things up!

Yes, after IVF embryo transfer, pregnancy is determined in 2-3 weeks, of course no guarantee of full-term pregnancy or live birth to healthy baby. twins arrive earlier upon calls than the 40 weeks.

She reminds me of Jodi Arias.

More accurately, it’s a 40-week process. A month has 30 or 31 days, so isn’t accurate in measuring pregnancies. Weeks is the best measurement.

R221, this would not happen in the BRF, are you insane? She might resort to a surrogate but she would explain why she was doing it and be completely transparent, just like Kim Kardashian, Ayda Williams and any other public figure.

Plus, Beyoncé didn't have a surrogate, so caught you out CT-ing yet again.

R221 - To answer your question: for the same reason we would take it personally if someone on one of these threads tried to persuade the rest of us that the earth is flat, or that Sam Heughan is straight.

R228, surely you are not a Sam frau?

Yes r225! Or the batshit and determined female astronaut who stalked man and wore the adult Diapers!

Mm so image conscious...what if she had the baby but thinks it’s not cute? That would keep her home!

The British public would have been very sympathetic had M and H had fertility issues. Everyone would understand if she had a surrogate, but what they wouldn't condone would be PRETENDING TO BE PREGNANT, which Kim and Ayda and others NEVER did.

The whole idea of her bump being fake is ridiculous.

R228, relax, have some fun, it’s not all about you snowflake. If you can’t open your mind to all the possibilities, have the good sense to move along to next comment. Let it go!!

A child not born of body, aka via surrogate, cannot inherit. I can't see her risking her entire $$$$. She prob she carried small and announced way too early.

Only victim is the kid that'll forever have this what-if follow them around, you'd think Harry would be the one to avoid this shit after his rumours.

R232 - You asked a question, I answered it. I don't have to open my mind to the possibility that the earth is flat, or that the Prince of Wales's son and daughter in law perpetrated a false pregnancy on the British public.

This baby better very strongly resemble them, her skin and his looks.

R233, the British public know that Harry's kids won't inherit.

R220 yes and home pregnancies never give false positives or a negative result. Tell that to the RCOG or the ACOG and tell them to stop taking blood HCG levels and TVU's to determine pregnancy. Maybe they could dispense with all medical tests and use the moon as a guide. Either MM has had the baby and lied or she had IVF and had a positive transvaginal scan at 5 weeks and announced it at Eugenie's wedding.

R222, it’s not a conspiracy. It’s how pregnancies are commonly measured - 40 weeks is full-term (between 38 and 42 weeks is normal). If you like, you can google it. Perhaps it’s confusing because pregnancies are also split into three trimesters, which would be more like nine months.

It’s not an exact science. It’s a little confusing. But it’s not a conspiracy.

I forgot Kim K had a surrogate.

R235, Skippy is missing you.

That closing the bets thing is no barometer. It happened in November when Paddy Power suspended bets because of an unprecedented amount placed on Meghan having twins.

It happened again on March 20th,

[quote]Paddy Power has suspended betting on the gender of the couple's first child. The decision comes after "sustained betting activity" on it being a girl over the last few days. A spokesperson for Paddy Power said: "Since yesterday afternoon we've seen continued betting on Harry and Meghan's first child being female, and we're now so convinced that we have stopped taking further bets on the gender.

The only thing clear to me at this point is that she wasn't 12 weeks pregnant at Eugenie's wedding. More like 10 or 11 weeks. She likely had her "12-week" scan early. I suppose the doctors will do that for a member of the BRF.

Look real?

The problem with the photo at R243 isn't that her bump is strange, its that she's wearing non-maternity clothing so it doesn't fit her pregnant body properly. It bunches up under her breasts, etc.

First of all, 40 weeks does not equal 10 months. Each month has 4 weeks and (up to) three days. The only month that has exactly 4 weeks is February (excepting leap years). Count out 280 days (40 weeks) on a calendar and you get 9 months and 1 week.

R208, you seem to know a lot about “fat, ancient fraus (sic).”

Which tells me you are.... a fat, ancient frau.

[quote] A child not born of body, aka via surrogate, cannot inherit.

Where is this information coming from? I don't think the laws of succession would have contemplated surrogacy so why would "born of the body" have applied? The only time I've heard anything close is in "heir of the body" which doesn't mean the same thing. If Harry and Meghan have a child with their genetic material carried in another person's body that child would still be a an "heir of the body" of Harry. Clearly, the child is not born from his body.

If anyone has specific information about the laws of succession prohibiting surrogacy, I'm interested.

That doesn't mean I think Meghan isn't pregnant. I just don't know the source of this information about "born of the body."

None of you are frau first babies rarely deliver on time.

There are 4.36 weeks in a month.

The 'born of the body' law is centuries old, and meant so that birthday had to be witnessed it avoid babies getting snuck in.

I believe viscount Weymouth had their second child via surrogate, and challenged the 'born of the body' law in 2016. They lost and the law was held up, meaning any surrogate child is limited in what they can inherit.

Looking up their case might give you more specific information.

Fun fact: William takes a lover, no big deal. Kate takes a lover, possible treason under The Treason Act of 1351.

Who knew a romp with Diana could have a landed her lovers in the clink?

You can go on Google and pull up a Days between Dates calculator and plug in dates. Pregnancy is 40 weeks/280 days, give or take a week or so if early/late. Doctors aren't going to let Meghan go over a week late. So, for example, if she conceived on July 21st, she would have been 11 weeks at Eugenie's wedding and will be at 40 weeks plus 6 days (286 days) tomorrow. So ready to pop at any second or they'll induce her. But we of course don't know her exact conception date so the birth could occur even further into May.

I don't trust any of these reports that she told people she was 4 months pregnant or 6 1/2 months pregnant. They make no sense.

The Viscount & Viscountess of Weymouth posted a legal challenge to the Peerage law in 2016, specifically to the “born of the body” part, in reference to a child born via gestational carrier. The law was upheld, despite the fact that their 2nd son is as much genetically theirs as their first son. This was only 3 years ago, so we’re not talking about ancient history, or “before the age of DNA testing.”

Here is a picture of the former Emma McQuiston, a beauty who makes the Markle hag look like a cheap knock-off.

R247 - Yet again, the issue is that in the UK the birth mother is considered the legal mother regardless of any biological tie or the lack thereof, which means that Harry and Meghan could not even make legal claim to the child until the birth mother signs a waiver of parental rights. The "heir of the body" term referred to adoption; obviously, surrogacy being a modern development, it complicates matters.

Adoptees cannot inherit

Re Surrogacy: this is from cambridge.org

"Genetics: surrogacy. Surrogacy is the final case where legal parental status is recognised for all legal purposes except for succession to titles."

I was about to bring up the Weymouth case but R253 beat me to it.

Emma McQuiston is who Meghan Markle likes to pretend she is.

Sorry R250, I didn't realize you had already posted about the Weymouths.

I distinctly recall seeing the video of Diana’s dance performance for Charles. The song was ‘All I Ask Of You’ from Phantom of The Opera. The last line of the song is “Love me, that’s all I ask of you” and I swear the video showed Diana mouthing them to Charles.

As far as Paddy Power goes, do remember that the betting odds for a LEAVE win on 23 June 2016 were 14% as opposed to REMAIN's 86%.

The rest, as they say, is history.

The betting odds are based on the size of punter's bets, not real polls or facts.

Many celebrities going surrogate route...Beyonce admitted to for second pregnancy after first one was called out for Moonbump. Kim k admitted to it for second pregnancy, and Amal Clooney with twins, widely suspected but not made public. It’s not a big deal.

R258 - It's not a big deal if you're honest about it. It's a big deal if you pretend to be pregnant when you're a member of the BRF and the British taxpayers who shelled out millions to renovate your little cottage to your taxes are played for fools.

R257 Bitch is probably at home in Froghollow betting large amounts on herself. Anything for publicity

It chaps my hide to admit but it is to Kim K's credit she was open and honest about using a surrogate--even more importantly she doesn't live off the largesse of the British taxpayer.

Link to the legal case of the Viscount of Weymouth, please. I've seen stories about Emma and the surrogacy but not about the legal challenge.

It seems different because they didn't use a surrogate for their heir.

If the surrogate were single, the biological father's would be the legal father so Harry would be named on the birth certificate. It seems to me the issue would be that the legal mother and the legal father aren't married so the child would be legally illegitimate not because of the "heir of the body" succession issue but because of how British law handles surrogacy. In any event, for purposes of succession it's not Meghan's "body" that's important to the heir, it's Harry's. Matters not. The archaic British laws aren't designed for succession through surrogacy.

“People” (meaning Meghan) published on Oct 15 that she already had her 12 week scan. Presumably the scan would have happened before Oct 12– wedding day, as Markle was booked pretty solid on and after the 12th getting ready for tour.

“Us” published a “report” on Oct 15 that said Meghan was 15 weeks.

This Express article discusses why the Weymouths went the surrogate route.

Damn shame that the surrogate cannot inherit.

Beyoncé was for sure pregnant for her second pregnancy.

R254 FWIW "heir of the body" doesn't refer to adoption. There are many ways that a person can become an heir. Think of a final will and testament. Everyone who received anything from great grandpa Joe counts as his heirs. If he gave everything his owns to his masseuse s/he/they would be the heir to his estate but not born of his body or adopted.

oops that should be

not "heir of the body" or adopted.

I'm not sure which one I'm looking forward to more, SussexStandby or the end of the 96 hours that Skippy said it would take for the charges against Meghan to be made public. Supposedly she's locked up in Windsor Castle while she's being interrogated.

Meghan is mildly entertaining, but the Tumblr frauen are a barrel of laughs.

So.... no Met Gala appearance this year I take it? No Oscar appearance last year in a $120,000 Dior mumu and ugly-ass $12,000 Birks earrings. How's an errant duchess going to properly merch?

R258, I agree!! When anyone mentions it on this thread it is called crazy talk. One possibility and would explain a lot.. This relationship is like a mesmerizing car accident. She’s one determined woman, and phony to the core. I find it highly plausible she is capable of this type of fraud and bad acting....weird part is that she hasn’t hauled out a baby for attention yet. That’s not the gal we know.

Gayle King is doing a CBS Special on Harry and Meghan plus one on May 17th. I wouldn’t be surprised is Meghan saved the big baby reveal for the show. Gross!

did Beyonce ever admit to the surrogates? There was a woman suing her and claimed she birthed blue ivy. More celebrities that had baby via surrogacy: Lucy Lu; Elizabeth Banks; SJP; Katey Segal; Angela bassett; Nicole Kidman; Jordana Brewster...NPH, Andy, Ricky Martin, Elton.

R271...you’re probably right! Gayle King...hmm, I won’t even say it.

R270 R258 R259 FYI the other posters can see that you're replying to your own comments.

That should be R271 instead of R259

That would be human biology, R222, and it has nothing to do with Me-Gain.

Human gestation is 40 weeks on average. First pregnancies often go an extra week or 2.

Did none of you pay attention in high school?

R274/R275 - I only posted once on this thread, so I don’t know what you mean. When I read about Gayle King’s special it made sense to me that Meghan might not present her baby until then. That’s all.

The sad thing about Charles and Di was that, superficially, they looked great together. Realistically, they were awful for each other.

R271 Mea culpa. Sorry I bundled you in with the person who was posting questions and responses to herself about celebrity surrogates. It was R272.

Tom Bower's book "Rebel Prince" suggests that Di hay have used cocaine.

R275 - that’s okay, it gets confusing.

DIdnt we all r280. ..What else would one do with Dodi?

R282, I suppose she had a rotten deal in terms of her marriage to Prince Charles. I do feel sorry for her.

There is no shame in using a surrogate, as long as you’re honest about it.

I’m not saying MM is or isn’t using one. I tend to think she’s pregnant, but there’s a little part of me that can understand why people think there is a surrogate. Those bumps defy logic.

R3 Baby Sussex is tied up in Customs.

R13 They should have revoked it after seeing that thing piled on her head.

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No, I saw that video of Beyonce on Ellen, her big tummy bent/folded when she sat down. Definitely fake.

Beyonce was pregnant both times. She really ballooned, not just her belly but all over. If she could carry twins to term, why would she have needed a surrogate for Blue Ivy?

Kim used a surrogate for her third child and her fourth, due this month.

I think she's carrying the child but there were many women who said there was no way a pregnant woman would be able to scoot down, crouch down etc while talking to a child or etc. when they saw her pictures. I do know know anything about that.

R295, my eyes do not lie to me, I saw her tummy folded over. millions saw it. she wasn't pregnant that time.

Conspiracy nutters, here's the video of Beyonce. Like a kitten with a ball of string, you should be entertained for hours.

I think the dress fits too closely around the hips so the midsection folds up when she sits, but if you want to go with Moonbump, have at it.

The difference is the surrogacy laws in the UK and the fact that a child carried by surrogate is out of the line of succession. Those things are not relevant to US celebs.

If a UK citizen contracts with a surrogate who is a citizen of and who lives in a non UK country, what then re: legal proceedings needed? Does the mother still have to relinquish the child in a UK court of law?

R299, no, because once the child is legally adopted, the surrogate is no longer the legal guardian.

You can bend and stoop when 8/9 months pregnant, just like people who put on 30lbs can still stoop and bend. The bump does change shape depending on the child's position.

When you're estranged from your family of origin and right away become estranged from the family you married into (the absurdly described 'family you never had'); well hell, the common denominator is you. You are the problem, MEghan, a complete and toxic utter disaster.

Harry's kids will never be on the throne. The succession is Charles, Wills, George, George's first born. This isn't the 19th century and they're not all going to be knocked out in a cholera epidemic.

'You are the problem, MEghan, a complete and toxic utter disaster.'

In your eyes only. She's loved by Londoners.

R158, Equestrian-themed jewelry for the tony set is extremely popular. Gucci has an entire line of it.

What a tiresome, boring thread this has become.

Can the idiot trying to convince everyone that Londoners love Megs kindly give it a rest. This is the third time I've read your shit.

Ok, lets speculate on the next outrageous faux pas the HazBeans will commit...

My guess it is that they will do the "big reveal" of their offspring on tv or the cover of a semi-trashy magazine like People, for a huge fee of course.

If Meghan happened to be white she would have been run the fuck out of the UK by a mob with pitchforks and torches.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw-eyZcgQfoCYxfqSsfW2_N8R6QM0M9bqjOwlE0/

Meghan No Mates.

Love the snark.

Soz. Here's the headline link for above.

I see torontopaper is back, again saying nothing of any real substance.

A theory of me : M is last seen 11.03.19 . Let us suppose the surrogate gave birth 20.03.19 an d we are now 03.05.19 that 7 weeks . I read here on the tread that is 6 weeks for the adoption papers to be filed at court and the adoption is ready . So all that poeha and hype is to conceal they used a surrogate . Hey its not written in stone just a theory of me . So i guess in a few days the birth will be announced .

R313 No, you did not read any of that on here.

New parents have six weeks to register a birth.

It takes over a year to get an adoption before a judge.

So your theory is idiotic.

In the UK the surrogate is the child's legal parent and goes on the birth cert then you have to apply to adopt them. I assume there are tougher laws here in the UK than America. All that being said, I don't think she used a surrogate, you can't fake that fat puffed up face and ass she had last time she was out in public. She must be the size of a whale by now, hence no sighting of her.

R306 It really has.

Yeah, the thread is a total loss so far. I was tempted to explain just how MM is so much more like Yoko than Linda, but it occurred to me that I don't give a fuck.

Lets rinse our eyes and have a look at Royals at the Met Ball over the years.

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R8 I read Diana thought they were at their closest when she was pregnant with Harry and after he was born, although Charles was pretty nasty the day he was born, disappointed it wasn't a girl and complaining the baby looked like a Spencer.

R14 Charles didn't look elsewhere when the shine wore off, he never stopped having an affair! Diana found romantic cufflinks inscribed from Camilla on their honeymoon! The only way that marriage had a chance is if Diana turned a blind eye and stopped being so effected by Charles' affair.

A pregnant woman CAN squat and stoop. But not with knees together. The laws of physics are immutable.

R321 What shit.

The bump doesn’t hang between the legs, so why wouldn’t someone be able to squat with legs together?

And if she could do it with the bulk of a “moonbump” why not with the bulk of a pregnant belly? What’s the difference?

Quite funny that you’re trying to invoke “the laws of physics” when simple logic seems to have bypassed you altogether.

She’s pregnant. Get the fuck over it & grow up.

Wanted to point out to the poster upthread, that is not Gwyneth Paltrow curtsying to the Queen. It’s Princess Mette-Marit of Norway.

In confirming this, I stumbled on this series of famous people curtsying. Almost all look ridiculous. And why is Gaga genuflecting before the Queen? As an American, I find it tacky when Americans do that.,

I love Joan's curtsy, R323

r322 A moonbump doesn't weigh the same or behave the same as a pregnant belly. The text below is a quote from another forum where the poster asked their 7 month pregnant cousin to squat down. I've seen video of Kate being unable to crouch down low like MM does.

a! when I saw her at Easter I actually did request her to try a few things to test out my MM theories! Despite some epic side-eye from her she complied.. :LOL:

Cousin stats for reference lol: 5’7”, very slim (like size 0/2), does yoga and pilates, crazy flexible, bump the size of a large food baby (even though she’s 7 months along)

* asked her to crouch down, knees together, and pop up without help — 3 attempts, no luck, bump would not allow her to crouch down no less getting up lol * crouch down knees together with me holding her hand for balance — she still wasn’t able to do the crouching down-knees in-and leaning in to talk to child pose that MM does * disappearing bump when sitting down — bump does change a bit depending on the chair and how you are sitting but it doesn’t disappear or “go in” * leaning over while sitting down (aka when MM was at Mayhew and leaned down to pet a dog on the floor) — not possible without changing how you are sitting to allow for the bump * bump appearance over 4 day period — the bump doesn’t magically become larger/smaller throughout the day, doesn’t move higher/lower, and overall shape doesn’t really change. Only thing my cousin noted was that she does carry a bit lower at night after running around all day, which makes sense Lol

I love the photo of Marilyn Monroe curtsying to the Queen. Her Maj looks quite captivated.

R325 Oh well - that proves it then. Some random gets another random to perform a manoeuvre and when she supposedly can’t PROVES that Markle, the BRF, the medical profession and public servants in the form of registrars are all about to commit criminal fraud.

Your fellow lunatic Skippy is that way ——-> so just fuck off will you.

R322, the video of Meghan crouching down to pick up a small dog would be impossible to do with knees together if she had a real baby in there.

Try it yourself with a throw pillow against your abdomen. (Knees tightly together, remember). Then imagine there’s a four-pound person surrounded by fluid and a muscular sac lodged in there with your internal organs, pressing up against your diaphragm.

R323 I love Mette-Marit's curtsy, Eugenie looks like she's taking a dump.

Curtsies look a lot better in a gown or 1950s dress.

Yes, Mette-Marit looks like a ballerina. Autumn Phillips looks very awkward. Diana did well considering those long legs she had to maneuver.

Diana looks like a colt trying to curtsey.

As much as I adore HM, I believed eve that Americans shouldn’t curtsy to her.

R328 ‘s video - I’ve seen linked on other sites pointing out the “popping” sound around 9s and Meghan checking her bump right after. I do think she’s pregnant so please don’t start yelling at me. I just find myself kinda thinking maybe she is padding because she announced super early at Eugenie’s wedding.

Catherine looks like she desperately has to pee when she curtsies. It reminds me of little kids doing a pee dance to try and keep it in.

R328, in that screen grab, the dog is thinking “PLEASE don’t let this woman adopt me! I’d rather stay in a shelter!”

R328 - method acting really isn't MM's forte.

Everybody is fleeing out of the country when baby Frog will be dropped . 😂

Let's face it, salad tossing was and remains MM's one real forte. That she parlayed it into become a full-fledged member of the BRF is all kinds of astounding.

God, this tradition of curtsying looks so ridiculous in the modern world.

Just goes to show that Harry's got a cock for brains R 339.

R339 , sorry.

Old Cauliflower Face has a film to promote.

Wow, Elton John got huge.

And the female Mike Tyson has a *cough* clothing line to promote.

R322 So, if I try and do it with a pillow but can’t - how the fuck do you think Markle can do it with a moonbump?

(And I’m not going to bother as I am not as sad and invested as you).

You’re an idiot.

She’s pregnant. Yes, she may have been padding at the start for attention, but that she is pregnant is a fact.

I agree that Americans shouldn’t curtsey to the the Queen (unless they especially want to, but why would they?).

When a Brit does it it’s supposed to signify respect for the office, not the human being embodying it.

I also think that the monarch should be the only person curtsied/bowed to. Although, in theory, any curtseys aimed at the others are for her by proxy, that plastic-faced, boss-eyed tart won’t have the humility to see it like that...and watching her gracefully “accept’ such honours makes me want to puke. Nobody should have to grovel at the feet of a cunt who is only there because she opened her legs for the right man.

r327 I didn't realise we were dealing with the pregnancy expert, who knows how pregnancy works without having going through it. It's interesting that when someone provides you with someone (on the internet) talking about how their cousin couldn't bend like MM they are a skippy lunatic. Why don't you go and accost a pregnant woman on the street and ask her to bend for you. You are the one who questioned why it was an issue. As you don't trust people on the internet, there are plenty of people in the "real world" you could engaging with.

Oh dear, R348 - I have been through it, four times.

Stop embarrassing yourself and go shove another cream cake in your fat, unemployed gob.

If these ladies really want to quell rumours about not actually being preggers they should follow my lead and give the papers the exposed truth..

Fraus everywhere, and I'm lying here naked!

From a supporting role on basic cable to Elton John performing at your wedding reception. Heady stuff.

Meghan is going to shake up the BRF and break the internet by livestreaming the birth from her joint Instagram account with Prince Harry!

Why isn't Anne her parents favourite? Who is Philip close to?

R266 - It does when it comes to the BRF. Adoptees are barred from the line of succession. Period. End of.

We're waiting so long, I almost don't care any more!

R323, loved the curtsies. Thanks!

I remember Chris Evert curtsying to Princess Michael at Wimbledon.

Oh poor R346. I never thought Markle would be pregnant for so long that the ones who insist that "She is actually really PREGNANT guys!!! She is just padding!!!! OK?!" Would be the ones who are winding up looking like the real tin hatters. LMAO.

So Gayle King is on her way over, or has landed. I wonder how much Little Bean's getting paid for this?

Gayle King in now being referred to as a "close friend" of Meghan, even though there's nothing to suggest they knew each other before the wedding shower. Gayle was in London to cover the wedding for CBS, but wasn't invited to the wedding or reception. Gayle is, however, a close friend of Oprah.

The baby shower must have been like a strategy meeting. How charming.

Interesting question-what are Philip's relationships like with his children? Does he have relationships with them at all? Given his racist, rowdy past, he seems like a fairly awful person. He's like the creeper uncle who makes racist jokes at family get-togethers and stares at women's cleavage but gets a pass because he's old and that's just how he is.

For all you comic book fans:

He married Demi Moore?

Anne is Phil's favorite child.

That comic book, lol, one of the reviews....

"I had bought this for my nieces. It was not appropriate."

Wonder what's in it? Haha.

R362, he's a bully and an asshole who thinks he's better than everyone else. He apparently bullied Charles throughout Charles' entire childhood because Charles was chubby and not tough enough. I've read that even when Charles was an adult, Philip would berate him until he broke down in tears.

Anne is his favorite child, and Edward is supposedly his favorite son, even though Edward dropped out of the military after a short time and wanted to pursue a career in theatre.

God, Phil sounds like a nightmare. No wonder Charles turned out the way he did. Makes me reevaluate HM a bit. Obviously she either condoned his behavior or just didn't give a fuck how he treated her children. She has stayed so sphynx-like throughout the years, we really don't know much about her other than the tidbits like she's fond of corgis, horses and the evening tipple of champagne.

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The writer in this article is insightful and well summarizes the messy HazBean circus.

"So, true love? Nah. Sheer desperation on both parts? Most definitely."

R368 - since she was THE QUEEN which means she took precedence over him in public, he was given full authority over the family. Not the best decision she's ever made but understandable to keep the peace with a man such as Philip.

R369 - "We don't speak to people that in this family" says the Queen to Meghan. Love it.

R368, the Crown touched on the situation in a couple of episodes. One episode showed Philip yelling at a young Charles, and the Queen Mother tells the Queen that "Philip isn't settled. He's taking it out on the boy, and it isn't fair." Then in a later episode, Philip is shown treating Charles (about 11 years old) like crap as they ride home in a helicopter, yelling at him in front of the servants (who discreetly try to de-escalate the situation). When they arrive home, the Queen can tell that the boy is upset and wants to get away from his father, but she hesitates and then decides not to comfort him. They're lucky that Charles even still talks to them.

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[quote]Edward is supposedly his favorite son, even though Edward dropped out of the military after a short time and wanted to pursue a career in theater.

Theater, really?

How you doin?

The horrors-I CAN TASTE EGG!!!!!!!!

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Author Katie Nicholl told how the former actress had insisted on there being a 'macrobiotic alternative' for some of the Hollywood star guests who follow the diet which derives from Zen Buddhism.

She told Yahoo's Royal Box: '[Meghan] got very upset when she felt that she could taste egg in a dish when she was told there was no egg in there, and she said, "No, I can taste it, I can taste there's egg in this dish."

'I think there was a bit of an upset when suddenly the Queen walked in, because of course, this was Windsor Castle, this is her home. And she just quietly took Meghan to the side and said, "Meghan, in this family we don't speak to people like that".'

Re the blog at R370, If the marriage implodes spectacularly in a couple of years, Oprah, and to a lesser extent Gayle, will have positioned themselves to be Meghan's mouthpieces. A smart and mutually beneficial arrangement.

Well, it’s easy for the Queen to say, the people in question would never be anything but respectful and obedient to her, and she never met with any other attitude since birth. I bet it was hard for Meghan when everybody were sneering behind her back and lying to her face “Egg? There is no egg in this dish, Miss.” Good for her for standing up for herself.

Thanks for that poster who posted that pic of her at someone's wedding being nasty to a wait staff. And now this story about her being nasty to another wait staff. She is a fucking CUNT. She thinks she's hot shit, she's a fucking low class whore, nothing more.

There will be more stories about her. Lots and lots of people will quit in very near future. And she will have a hard time finding a nanny.

I'm surprised MM is nasty to wait staff, they could sneeze into her food and who knows what else in future...she better watch it lol.

Her face looked like thunder in those Caribbean wedding photos.

Men like Prince Philip should NEVER have children. They don't seem to understand that each child is different and each requires different parenting skills to deal with them. A sensitive child should NEVER be bullied (Charles/Edward). An outgoing and fearless child (Princess Anne/Prince Andrew) can take a bit of aggression. It takes a lot of intelligence and emotional maturity to figure it out and Philip's own upbringing may have contributed to his lack of empathy.

R380 = delusional much?

Thank you for my Friday laugh.

Did she ever work as a food server? Most struggling actors in Hollywood have been food servers or have held other service-related jobs (retail) to make ends meet between acting gigs. If she has, then she should be more sympathetic to people who are in that line of work.

Princess Eugenie wishes her hubby Jack a Happy Birthday! My God, those big teeth.

The late Queen Mum as a child with her brother David. They were the youngest of 10 children.

The Queen Mother was the daughter of the parlour maid!

Kilt and cute alert at Windsor!!! The Changing of the Guard comes with Shetland pony.

'[Meghan] got very upset when she felt that she could taste egg in a dish when she was told there was no egg in there, and she said, "No, I can taste it, I can taste there's egg in this dish."

I can imagine MM's cunty, bithcy voice yapping at a helper, like when she bitched behind the back of a woman who didn't like the bag MM picked for her.

R386, it seems MM sponged off her parents instead of working the usual struggling actor jobs.

She is described as living with Doria after college. This was after Doria stole her deceased fathers house from (Doris’s) half brother.

And Thomas claims he paid her other bills until she moved in with Trevor.

It seems our MM is quite the little grifter skank with little work history. It’s why it annoys me so much when she’s described as a “perfectionist” or “type A.”

She’s just a rude, mouthy asshole who sort of oozed around LA for 15 years. NOT some focused high achieving dynamo.

Photos of Canadian-born Autumn Phillips, daughter-in-law to Princess Anne. Hers is another birthday to celebrate in May. She can be quite stylish.

R392, wow, it sounds like she thought she was "too good" for service jobs.

I consider service jobs a right-of-passage, even for those who won't making a living in the field. For example, if I were in charge of a corporation, I probably wouldn't hire someone who never served the public in a store or restaurant, regardless of how much education they have.

They're very close. Cough, cough.

Meghan skin looks terrible in R391 video.

Peter and Autumn Phillips with Kate's sister Pippa and brother James Middleton.

"One has to look one's best".

This dumb woman gave Princess Anne a gift for the Sussex baby.

R380 - Among normal people, we don't call that "standing up" for oneself; it's actually bullying when you pick a fight with people of a lower ranking.

It’s really the trashy rudeness and childish defiance that dives me nuts about MM. Anything else is pretty forgivable.

I could even feel sorry for her— narcissism that profound would have been forged under some pretty awful conditions. We don’t know much about that part of her life.

But then she has a shitfit about EGGS and I’m like, “fuck this skank.”

Harry = animal killer. Meghan = fake vegan. What a match made in heaven!

I love Princess Anne, she says it as it is even if it isn't the popular thing to say. She just gets on with things without any drama.

WTF do people want to give gifts to baby that's among the richest 1% in the world? The baby will already have more than everything it needs, and the members of the RF and their attendants don't want to carry around some toy for several hours. They'll probably toss it in the trash the first chance they get. Or, they'll give it charity.

Harry is not looking well. He must be going stir crazy with his bossy, heavily pregnant wife at home. She's probably more insufferable now than she's ever been. I wonder if Doria is having second thoughts on staying with her daughter? This is probably the LONGEST time she's been with her daughter in years. Has she pulled her cornrows out in frustration? Are her eyes opened yet?

R399 - and Princess Anne's reaction to the gift for Baby Sussex:

R404 that's what I found really annoying about Oprah's statement about giving a great gift to the baby as she really cares about the parents. Fuck off. That baby will never want for anything. How about throwing the cash to some starving orphans or refugee children in this child's honour?

Is it me, or has this thread taken a fevered, noxious, witless turn?

(Cue the “fuck you cunt, take your Frogwhore stanning shit elsewhere” reply)

Some of my favorite lines from this thread:

“No, I can taste it, I can taste there's egg in this dish.“ “Has she pulled her cornrows out in frustration?” “Gayle is, however, a close friend of Oprah.” “The bump doesn’t hang between the legs, so why wouldn’t someone be able to squat with legs together?”

They are benefit scroungers and nothing else!

Amsterdam trip has been cancelled.

Fancy complaining about the taste of egg when you've a reputation for having your tongue in someones ass.

[R411] Strange it was even organised in the first place.

If I had done a tenth of what MM has, I would have had my pale, stale ass shipped back home eons ago. Meg does not have basic manners or show courtesy to others. What’s her excuse? Raised in tony Woodland Hills, CA. Now I can’t tell a knife from a fork, but I’m from lower-middle-class Brooklyn. Those of you who give Meg a pass because of her tint are the real patronizers.

r413 Even strange the visit to The Hague is apparently still going ahead.

Meghan's skin looks sun damaged. Freckles on her chest.

Sun block, girl!

It's amazing to think how different the Royal family would be with any slight change. Eg: Princess Charlotte surviving childbirth = no Queen Victoria.

Prince Albert Victor surviving the flu = No George V, George VI or Elizabeth II.

$ky story on the cancelled PH trip.

"It is time for Harry and Meghan to stop seeing themselves as victims and to acknowledge the reality of their lives, the occasional awkward photo shoot and all."

It's a bit weird that Harry's only cancelled the Amsterdam trip just now. Surely they knew the due date ages ago?

The trip to Amsterdam should never have been scheduled until AFTER the baby was born. Methinks Sparkle Junior is LATE in arriving.

The Dutchess of Susseggs.

[quote] '[Meghan] got very upset when she felt that she could taste egg in a dish when she was told there was no egg in there, and she said, "No, I can taste it, I can taste there's egg in this dish."

What a snotty bitch. No wonder NOBODY likes working for the hag and always end up quitting in short order. It's going to be a never ending revolving door of nannies for that poor kid. Still funny as hell the staff who made sure that tag stayed attached on the red dress for that walk off the plane.

R420 - It's not weird that he's staying home, it's weird that they announced it at all, given that with his first child due momentarily he would even think about going. The palaces and PR staff clearly aren't talking to each other.

The Duchess of Susseggs. (Amsterdam on the brain)

yes, i doubt she was 12 weeks pregnant at Harry's cousin's wedding. She fucking stole the thunder and told everyone she was pregnant. How much of a attention whore do you have to be to do this at someone's wedding? And she only just joined the family at the time. No breeding, no class, that's what you get for marrying a commoner. That's what they are saying behind closed doors.

Even if you were raised in a barn, you would know not to do announce your news at someone's wedding.

Richard Palmer ‏

@RoyalReporter 20m20 minutes ago

Chaos in the Royal Household: the Duke of Sussex has pulled out of a trip to Amsterdam next Wednesday, ostensibly because there are too many competing events involving other members of the family (Charles and Camilla in Germany; the Cambridges in North Wales).

R425 - most commoners KNOW how to behave (treat everyone with respect). It's Meghan's character and personality which are the problems not the fact that she wasn't born with a title.

But I read Harry is still going to The Hague, it was just Amsterdam he pulled out of, no?

Richard Palmer also says -

Harry still plans to go to The Hague on Thursday to mark one year before the 2020 Invictus Games - but that will depend on what happens with the baby

R426 - it just shows what a shit storm the Sussex houshold really is. Aren't the PR offices aware of other royal engagements? That's the first thing you should do. Duh.

R425 - As has been the case since Meghan first came on the scene, her PR has been absurdly off, starting with getting Harry to threaten the UK press a year before they were even engaged. For all the bullshit about privacy, she's managed to turn this into another media circus about her and her life, when sticking the tried and true media circus - i.e., five minutes on the steps of the Lindo Wing - would have limited the circus to one day.

She never manages to miss an opportunity to prove that she really isn't a narcissistic famewhore - because at every bend in the road she takes exactly the tactic that proves that she IS a narcissistic famewhore.

It's only 1hr 30min away...what's the big deal? She will be in labor for a longgggg time.

Wait, so home birth means no painkillers? She's gonna be screaming her head off. Harry is gonna be needing many drinks to deal with it all.

The "Sussex household" is comprised of little more than control-freak MEghistan trying to micro-manage everything.

To me, she's the low class American fame whore. She aims not only to be bigger than Kate but bigger than Diana. Fat hope!

R433 - We don't know that it will be a home birth, and if it is, you may be sure that the best physicians will be on hand in case anything goes wrong, with a helicopter/ambulance/escort nearby ready to whisk her off to one of those hospitals she's sneered at, with every piece of equipment near to hand - including pain management drugs if she needs them. Home births, contrary to popular opinion, do not preclude painkillers like spinal blocks.

Didn't MEghan brag how she was going to "work" up until she was about to deliver? Instead, she's been on maternity leave longer than any of Catherine's three pregnancies prior to birth. Just another bold-faced lie among a multitude she makes up with her lame-ass PR.

One of the comments on Richard Palmer's tweet at R429 about Harry pulling out of Amsterdam trip:

[quote] He should have “pulled out” much earlier.

According to Nicholl, Meghan was reproved by HM on the "egg" dish issue: "The Duchess of Sussex, 37, visited Windsor Castle in run up to Royal Wedding to taste the food, and complained after tasting 'egg' in a macrobiotic dish, much to the Queen's disapproval, according to royal author Katie Nicholl. She said Her Majesty told Meghan 'we don't speak to people like that in this family'."

I'm sure the fraus on Celebitchy, who absolutely accepted that the Queen sent Meghan an adoring letter of admiration a few months ago on absolutely no evidence, will reject this as another "smear" on the fucking psycho bitch the BRF let in because there's no evidence.

There was never any official engagement released for Amsterdam, it was described as a " secret engagement". He was probably going to Soho House Amsterdam, they were both there for the opening. She's probably decided that he's " Not Allowed! " ( barking voice), so the Handbag is just doing the official engagement in The Hague, with no jollies thrown in.

R437 - "One of the comments on Richard Palmer's tweet at [R429] about Harry pulling out of Amsterdam trip:

"He should have “pulled out” much earlier."

Oh, that IS delicious!

Duchess of Suckseggs

Egghan Markle

"No, I can taste it, I can taste there's egg in this dish." God what a fucking cunt.

Yes, imagine. The kitchen staff who made the food actually told her there were no eggs in the recipe. Duchess Yoko more or less accused them of lying. Oh dear.

Jane here, keeping a particular eye today on R325.

Does anyone know what food ingredient chefs use instead of eggs that may taste similar to eggs?

These are gorgeous photos of QEII and her family.

Charles is STILL in Scotland.

Photos of Princess Anne at the Whitley Awards.

Anne goes to France, next week, William and Kate to Wales, Harry to The Hague, and Charles and Camilla continue their tour of Scotland. Everyone's getting the hell out of there.

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R328, and those heels!

The 'family she never had' running for the hills R448

Her Maj has a winning smile.

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You can replace eggs pretty easily with a branded vegan egg replacement.

You can use lots of other weird mixtures, but that is about the easiest.

It does taste like egg though.

I'm not sure anyone could have predicted that this thread would turn into a discussion of egg substitutes.

Would anyone have predicted for the BRF in this day and age how farcical this whole pregnancy has been?

I didn't come here for recipes.

What a pretentious twat she is.

She thinks she’s some authority on food (because she fucked a chef) so I can just imagine her getting all heated about what she can/can’t taste.

Insisting that she can taste something the chefs say isn’t there is her basically calling them liars.

Cunt.

There were articles saying MM "the feminist" would work until the day she gave birth.

She hasn't been seen in public for almost two months.... and no baby yet as far as anyone knows.

She’s a parvenu, and she knows it. And like all ignorant, jumped-up nobodies she thinks being rude to people makes her sound important.

i bet she's had a lot of complications already, that's why she hasn't been seen in public, for all you know, she's been ordered to rest in bed by doctors. And she still wants home birth. Stupid cunt. matches well with Royal idiot.

I wish the queen would tell her and harry off about the celebrity chasing. And I hope it becomes public news to embarrass oprah and her ilk.

If they were going to chastise her for socializing with celebrities, it would have occurred after the celebrity baby shower. I doubt she'll drop her newfound close friends regardless. It's not a stretch to believe that socializing with the likes of Oprah and George Clooney is a dream come true for her.

I love that the family Sparkles never had will be busy working.

George IV's tableware is so decadent!

Will there be no coverage of the Royal Victorian Order service at St. George's today? I thought it would have at least been mentioned since Kate has been made a Dame Grand Cross.

Do you think Camilla and Chuck still fuck?

R466, you could feed several countries for the cost of that tableware.

Oh my, Keira Knightley is pregnant again. Will we be treated to another graphic description of her birth experience?

^sorry, wrong thread

Sadly they do not film nor release photos of the ceremony for the Royal Victorian Order.

My goodness, this perma-preg royal interloping Negresse certainly has the people all in arms! (As they should be, because...well, you know. I mean, can you even JUST? One of the Conquered, in THE ROYAL FAMILY?!)

R473 - what language are you speaking?

Did anyone remember reading the story from her ghosted mate about some of the wedding activities in Jamaica, when she married Trevor? She had a list of games to be played, at set times through the day , really childish games. It read that she was screaming at people to join in, as she'd planned it all meticulously. But she looked a mess. So her plans are made in stone and people must adhere... and what I can't figure out is...why cannot she apply that much energy in to her personal grooming?

R468 - yes, occasionally. Camilla needs to keep Charles' heart pumping so it doesn't clog up.

R468 Many older couples are able to enjoy an active sex life, thanks to a class of medications, phosphodiesterase inhibitors (such as Viagra). In addition, since Camilla is post menopause, she would need to use a lubricant designed to be used specifically for the postmenopausal vagina, as the vaginal tissue becomes more friable once estrogen production drops.

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* lashes prawn salad in the bin *

I believe Meghan Markle is pregnant, just to get that out of the way. But at this point I also believe she 'announced' early - prior to 12 weeks - at Eugenie's wedding. Because that was an announcement the moment she got out of the vehicle in that coat. So she REALLY went out of her way to upstage the bride that day, which is just extra tacky given the fact that MM is obviously more popular with the media than Yuge anyway. MM isn't a good person.

Also lol at all the 'she's going to work up until her due date' salivating that took place a few months ago in certain stannish quarters of the internet. 50 days now? And come on, we all know why. Check those pics in the cream dress from their Morocco visit - she was already awkwardly heavy and lumpy by that point. It's vanity and nothing more that has kept the woman who loves cameras and attention like fat kids love cake out of the public eye for the past 7 weeks now.

>>>She’s a parvenu, and she knows it. And like all ignorant, jumped-up nobodies she thinks being rude to people makes her sound important.

That and also because she probably senses people's contempt for her, whether for who she is or what she does. The British have a finely developed mode for showing disdain whilst appearing perfectly polite.

Blind leading the blind seems the standard operating procedure in the Sussex household. What a royal mess. Fucking amateur hour with HazBean.

I agree that she didn't want to be seen publicly or photographed late in her pregnancy, R480, but I'm sure our Duchess of Instagram has been taking meetings behind closed doors these last 50 days. She hustles and she really can't help herself. It's one of her better qualities.

Her only hustle is trying to break the internet with that stupid @Sussexroyal IG. Must be killing her that for all her ballin' it hasn't beat KP's followers. In fact, since it's been created KP numbers went on to increase over 8 million.

I’m confused. Have the “fake pregnancy” trolls now decided that Meghan is really pregnant but extremely vain?

I personally thought she was faking it, but the vitriol of some of the people on this board is a bit much.

Baby has been birthed.

R485 I never thought she was faking a pregnancy, but yes, I do believe that vanity is the main reason she hasn't been seen in public for 50 days.

Were you there, R486?

No one really has any idea R485. It could be anything. MEghan is notorious for playing fast and loose with the truth.

The whole thing is very weird, like her fashion sense. Poor kid will never live down its parents botching its birth.

If this is true, we'll be seeing not only a lot more of Eug, but Bea, too. Everything that Andy has been fighting for. Could this be the banishment coming into fruition for Yoko and her Handbag?

Blind Items Revealed #4 April 23, 2019

Two more royals added to the bald man's team. All it took was an annual "stipend," of a little over $100K. That also brought their parents firmly to his side.

Prince William/Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice

Thanks, R487. I just came here to discuss the royals in general. I’m trying to stay out of the really impassioned anti-Meghan posts.

I agree R484 that the IG account is being handled mainly by her and has been since its inception. This isn't to say it's impossible that she could be working on anything else (i.e. charitable endeavours). I personally believe the main work of the royals is just showing up somewhere, smiling for the cameras etc.

You don't have to like her to acknowledge that she works on her patronages and so forth.

R493 - just remember she only has 4 royal patronages thus far. Not much work.

r493 How does she work on her patronages and so forth, exactly? All I've seen is self promotion and she has stopped following her patronages on instagram to promote private US businesses.

The thing is, none of us really know whatever work she does. R493 is making a statement from thin air. From what I have seen, her meetings (like the womens conference) is little more than her paying lip service talking over everyone telling them how they should think and live their lives, but mostly making the conversation about herself.

It's hard work following pages on Instagram, connecting with hasbeen American celebs, and composing on noxious captions that don't even try to appear british.

Truly an exmple for the working class woman

Well, she's not bothering with her patronages now, she has friends to promote, or business deals to fulfill . Check out who she is following. They aren't all true mental health charities.....

*Bye smelly pooches...I'm soooo over you now *

The narcissism and lack of self awareness from meghan and her celeb friends is astonishing. These people would not want to be her friend if she wasn't in the royal family. And to actually say with a straight face they have a friendship is nonsense. They don't know each other!

R493 Do you even know what a patronage is? There’s no “work” to do.

The actual work is done by the experts...the patron shows up at events and has their name on the letterhead.

The Queen has has hundreds. How much “work” do you think she does for them? If Markle showed up and started trying to work at these organisations , it would look absurd since she’s in no way qualified.

Get a clue.

Fergie wishes her son-in-law "Handsome Jack" a Happy Birthday.

Lol, my mother is like that about my partner too, on social media. Bloody cringe, but cute.

Harry must be disgusted by her treatment of servers. I remember an old article from years back that described Diana and Harry's lunch date with Paul McCartney. Apparently, the server brought out Harry's food, and it wasn't quite what he had ordered. He asked his mother if he could complain to the server, and his mother told him to eat it anyway instead of making things complicated for the server.

It seems reasonable to ask for a correction when your order is wrong, but I guess that Diana didn't want to inspire rumors that she (or Harry) was difficult.

I was just looking through some of my sisters photos when she was about 7.5 months pregnant. She wasn’t especially fit before or during pregnancy, but she’s about Markle’s height and size.

My sister at 7.5 months basically looks like she has a little gut. This used to piss her off endlessly because people just thought she got chubby— not pregnant.

Then I look at MM, who was supposedly super fit pre pregnancy. At 7.5 months when she went on leave, she was HUUUUUUUUUGE. Hell, she was HUUUUUUUUGE during the Morocco trip. I’ve never seen anything like it.

She is or was pregnant, but the timelines are very weird.

And, to get that big, there was some food binging on a regular basis. The size came from somewhere and if it were all bloat, she would have had heart issues (maybe she has.)

That blind item makes me laugh, R490. It’s got Imelda Markle’s petty, mean-spirited stamp all over it.

Besides, would the “bald man” need to pay the Yorks a single cent to get them on his “team”? I’m sure the coat stunt at Eugenie’s wedding made them hate her free of charge,

As for ME-Again’s digs at Will’s baldness....people in glass houses (or cheap extensions, in this case) shouldn’t throw stones.

Phil acting like he's going to catch baby cooties from baby Prince Charles and shit. The Queen is like "WTF, Phil? No one's going to think you a Buggerer for holding your own kid!" Baby Charles is like "Who the hell ARE these people?"

I just started remembered the episode of Banzai in which they used a Princess Diana doll to determine whether or not the Queen and Philip were still having sex. They attached the doll to a parachute and threw it out of a hot air balloon to see whether it would land on the side of the ground marked "Still Doing It Proper" or "Not Doing It Proper". Tragically, I can't find it on YouTube.

R501 That is Jack, bartender extraordinaire and purveyor of fine tequila. No wonder Eugene is hustling so much these days with her "patronages", no doubt spurred by pervie Andy. Hustling tequila is fun, but it don't pay the bills!

And Beatrice, the more unfortunate looking one, is now latched on to a Eurotrash grifter with a one year old son...Oh dear. Well, Beatrice has had two excellent role models from which to master the art of grifting.

R503 Diana was one hell of a complicated woman. She was a good person in terms like that and letters she wrote to people showed she had a big heart and did care and her charity work was genuine. But the other side of her was demonic. She could be vicious and had no problem being the third person in another couple marriage or relationship.

Chris Evans says the Sussex spawn has dropped.

Talking of Hustling Andy, more of the Windsors.

The Yorks should be glad to take the gig for $100,000 a year. Beatrice is supposedly a consultant (!?), so she can set her own hours around the royal gigs. Eugenie has what appears to be a legitimate job, but she apparently gets 3 days off a week. Imagine a job where a limo picks you up and takes you to places where everyone is happy to see you. You probably get free food at some of those events, too.

Chris Evans is another ginger crank.

R503 Love those little stories.

R409, must say 100k doesn't sound like much to me, not in those circles.

One thing it seems Diana never, ever did was put on airs or demand special treatment. Good goods she was.

Dare I say it? Willis has finally accepted his fate. He's doing his Windsor thing impressively today. He's Kingly, he is.

Linda Sparkle is fighting the good fight.

See?

R493 - Yes writing "YOU ARE STRONG" "YOU ARE BRAVE" on bananas is such a hard work. LOL

Why would William need to bribe the Yorks to get them on his "team"? They're pretty irrelevant, really. And I suspect that Andrew and Fergie in particular are probably still annoyed that Meghan announced her pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding.

Royal correspondent James Whittaker once said that Diana was the least snobby person he had ever met, unlike her brother Charles and sister Sarah.

Will seems to be coming into his own, as the poster upthread said, accepting his fate, even embracing it. Partly age, becoming a father, but maybe also feeling a little bit of a threat to his rightful inheritance and all that it means has made him value it more.

Michael Corleone never wanted to enter the family business, but when the family business was under siege, boy did he step up.

One notable narcissistic trait:

Any time they enter a new social or work environment, they IMMEDIATELY think it’s their role to “tell them how things should be done.” I’ve seen it over and over in work and social situations. This seems to fit with how Markle has handled things.

I don’t know if they think they are being helpful or what it looks like from the narcissist’s point of view. But I wonder.

Isn’t Bea part of the SoHo House crowd? We’ve discussed it before, but I recall a version of the Harkle “meet-cute” story was that they had met thanks to one of the York girls (I get them confused).

100K is great, it's like getting a bit of pocket money for exposure and press. And to keep your dad happy. "On side"....well.....the Yorks were/still maybe are regulars at all things Soho. Pocket money for spilling the really filthy, nasty , trashy and perverted beans on Bean. Bring it on, I say!

Cross posted about Soho, R525. Seemingly all roads lead to Soho.....

And Hazza has been barky " Not Allowed! " from going to Amsterdam next week...unofficial engagement at Soho House? The dirty ticket.

R524, yes. It’s part of the “high roller” mentality. They will never walk into a hotel room and pour themselves a drink and relax. They will never accept a plate of food at a restaurant and begin eating.

They inspect until they find something “wrong” and demand something better.

Because they are special and not going to accept just anything happily, the way the plebes do. They have STANDARDS and sneer at the poor clucks who don’t know any better.

“YOU CALL THIS MACROBIOTIC? I TASTE EGGS”

From one of the links up thread about Sparkle and Dim .....

[quote] they wanted to be the international jetsetters of the Royal family.

Who, I wonder, did they expect to pay for their Jetsetting?

Anyone care to make a guess?

So today is precisely 200 days since the official announcement, almost 29 weeks. If she'd had the 12 week scan previous to telling the family..

I can’t believe the absurd shit show this pregnancy has devolved into. If anyone had ever told me this would happen to the BRF, I would have told them to buy better quality crack.

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I bet they’re trying to get her to agree to be induced and she’s refusing.

Doria must be beside herself.

There was a period when William was devastatingly handsome, and then he lost his hair and dad danced and seemed to relinquish his dazzle to his younger hotter brother. Now with William asserting himself as the de facto alpha king, he’s regained his hotness, while Harry has devolved into resembling some sort of weasel-like rodent. The seesaw of the desire quotients between these two is quite capricious.

R534, Harry looks so much like Charles there

I imagine the home birth will sound like the McNeill house when the exorcist enters.

Agree, r534.

Whoops. ^^ Agreeing with r536.

Just put a plunger on her fanny!

The latest from Omid Scobie.

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The article in DM states that Harry's trip to Amsterdam was canceled due to "logistical challenges". WTF? I've never heard that phrase to describe "waiting for my child to be born".

It seems Gayle King is gong to cover cheating allegations in her TV special on Royals - according to some heavy handed hints set out by @TudorChick1501 in her twitter feed All these ageing American women who have such a deep interest in MM - most odd.

Size during pregnancy can be a product of overeating... I know someone who’s about eight months along (she’s due in June) and she’s just huge... just about as big as MM was the last we saw her. She’ll eat anything that comes into her view. Her reasoning is that she’s dieted all her life, and now she gets to indulge, that might be what’s going on with MM. as an actress she’s had to watch her figure, so she might be overdoing it.

Worth every penny.

R542 - Duchess Meghan isn't correct. Scobie Sucks.

Anna Wintour would like the two Duchesses Kate and Meghan at the Met Gala. They can leave their husbands at home. Please bitch.

Omid Scabies is as reliable as Sparkle. As in, not at all.

Princess Michael’s daughter Lady Gabriella is getting married on May 18. The Queen will attend. Goody! I can’t wait to see Christine in all her finery.

Can’t you just hear her? “We are going to show them how a royal wedding is done, darling.”

R477, this is why I love DL.

Celeb gossip, arts news, bitchery, and accurate medical info.

I wonder why Will and Harry don't go to their father's tailor. Will's suits are terrible and his tuxedos even worse.

R549, isn't that horribly rude of Anna Wintour to wear her dark sunglasses in the presence of HM?

Meghan most likely maintained her figure via a Nazi style regime of exercise/diet which would have been unsafe to maintain during pregnancy. Without it, she ballooned and is clearly embarrassed by her size, when she should have embraced the lard like Kim Kardashian did in her first two pregnancies.

It's weird how the misogynist Skippies and Kate trolls never blame Harry for this treacherous fake pregnancy. He would be complicit too yet is never mentioned.

Remember when the British Actress "Dames"

were Dame Edith Evans, Dame Peggy Ashcroft, Dame May Whitty, Dame Margaret Rutherford, and Dame Judith Anderson?

Well, now we have:

Dame Joan Collins, Dame Emma Thompson, Dame Julie Andrews, Dame Julie Walters, and Dame Kristin Scott-Thomas!

R555, well, I cannot speak for Kim K, but Meghan, being in her late 30's would be closely monitored for Gestational Diabetes.

I don't think that she would indulge to that degree.

Are there still any Skippies left on this thread, or have they all gone back to Tumblr?

TorontoPaper tweeted BaNG on 30 April and lpoks mighty stupid now.

I am not sure who I detest more these days - Markle or the hysterical dickheads who adore her.

They really do believe that anyone who doesn’t want to coat their tongue in her shit is racist.

I cannot wait till this implodes in a year or two. With any luck they’ll form a commune and start passing round Cool Aid.

R560 - Myself, I go back and forth on who I dislike the most - Harry, Meghan or Megastans.

I can’t wait for the stories of her narcissistic rage to surface post-divorce. You KNOW the staff are keeping quiet, biding their time and recording every fucking nasty thing she says/does.

R557 Emma Thompson, Dame Julie Walters, and Kristin Scott-Thomas are find actresses, and the other in your group, Julie Andrews, has done some very fine work. In fact, in terms of contributions to British stage and cinema, ranging from her work in The Americanization of Emily and Victor/Victoria to rescuing The Sound of Music singlehandedly from diabetic overdose . . . I might put her in front of the others. Walters is a wonderful actress, as well.

Did we get bulletins from mouthpieces for Kate whilst on maternity leave that she was "comfortable and content"???!!!

It is unbelievable what the BRF is taking up the PR anus from this bitch, it really is. This baby is seventh in line and meaningless to the future of Britain. Jesus Christ, why doesn't someone stop her?!

Can't wait for Lady Gabriella Windsor's wedding.

This thread is filling up fast so here is the next one.

The Queen, Prince Philip, Princesss Anne and Prince Charles. Just a normal family sitting out on the lawn of their castle.

I agree that the timeline is fucked up because Meghan announced too early. No way was she 12 weeks along when she showed up to Eugenie's wedding in the maternity coat. That was a hasty lie to answer the backlash about her stealing Eugenie's thunder. Perhaps that's the reason for the alleged padding, too? She was trying to keep up the fake timeline, even though she had to realize that at some point (like, oh, now), the jig would be up.

It's nice to know who your ancestors are. Well, maybe not.

R566, I suspect that— IF she thought it through at all— she hoped she’d be one of those older mothers who deliver a little early, this salvaging her timeline.

I agree with R536 that William is reclaiming his hotness, despite the bald head. If he'd shape up a bit and get some better-fitting suits, AND with the new Alpha Dick demeanor, he might get all the way back to handsome again. With the right attitude, baldness is not a dealbreaker.

A young Diana writes a letter to her parents.

All of this and we weren't even in 2019 at the time of writing.

Baldy No# 2. He's not aging well at all.

No matter how long they wait to announce, the baby's actual date of birth will be a matter of public record, yes? So if she was lying about being 12 weeks along at Eugenie's wedding, the truth will definitely out eventually.

Some books for royal historians.

Are the bunions the reason her shoes are always too big? Can't she just get wide fit shoes?

I concede this is s most mundane mystery, but I just can’t figure out why she was so huge so early, unless she’s having twins.

It’s really weird for a first pregnancy of someone so fit..

And if she's padding, that’s weird too. All the yoga mommies pride themselves on not even looking pregnant, and making the whole thing seem effortless.

Whereas MM has belabored her every burp and fart since she got knocked up. Her pregnancy is the most epic thing anyone has ever done!

It’s so weird and dare I say un-feminist. She clearly thinks pregnancy is the most impressive thing she’s ever done. And for her, maybe it is. But not for most women (you know, the ones who work until the day they go into labor.)

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good, non-ass kissing bio of the Queen Mum? Available on Kindle if possible.

^*fine actresses

R563

R577 - try Hugo Vickers' book.

R577 - if you want a little more dishy, try Lady Colin Campbell's book.

The Penelope Mortimer bio is definitely not ass-kissing, R577. Not a hatchet job either, and laugh out loud funny in places.

R576 - I've never had children but I'll hazard to guess that MOST women think that pregnancy is pretty impressive and awesome because it is when you think about it. However, it's the younger generation who may believe that they're special and God's gift to humanity.

Thanks very much, R579, R580, and R581.

She's not the yoga fanatic she makes herself out to be......

R563, thanks for reply. Yes, they are all fine actresses, just not necessarily Shakespearean ones!

(No offense to Joan Collins.) And I cannot imagine any of them using "Dame" in her title in film credits!

R575, her legs look nice when they are good and tanned!

This is a very flattering portrait of younger Randy Andy in uniform.

Diana's ginger nephew Louis Spencer is MUCH HOTTER than balding Harry. Yum, yum!

Louis and his hair wave.

Louis Spencer showing a little chest hair with his mother Victoria.

R581 - Oh, I thought Mortimer's book threw considerable shade at the Queen Mum. Some of it was shrewd, but some of it was petulant (she sounded almost jealous) and included things that Mortimer "imagined" happening as the basis for nasty comments.

But it was an engaging and entertaining book, which was refreshing simply because it wasn't the usual hagiographic material that surrounded the Queen Mum.

Shirtless Louis chilling in Ibiza.

John, Charles and Louis - the late, present and future Earls Spencer.

Louis Spencer's parents Charles and Victoria at the time of their engagement.

R576 If you're referring to the Where Is That Damned Baby issue, it's not mysterious at all - the logical deduction is that Meghan announced early and lied about having had that 12-week scan so she could pull off her maternity coat stunt at Eugenie's wedding. Perhaps she had had a scan, insisted on one, asked for one, and it was really 8-9 weeks rather than 12. Or maybe she hadn't had a scan at all and took a chance on announcing after whilst 8-10 weeks rather than waiting the usual 12 weeks to be on the safe side.

After watching her and her PR's handling of this birth of the seventh in line, I would put absolutely nothing past her. In fact, I'd say I underestimated the depth of her deluded narcissism.

I hope the BRF is huddled in regular conferences trying to figure out how to get rid of the Sussexes without having to resort to the black Mercedes (not including the poor kid, of course, who'd be much better off being adopted by, say, Eugenie).

Louis vs. Harry. See the family resemblance?

I've always found this photo of Diana very sad. Little did we know she would be dead shortly after.

Next thread is up.

Diana dressed in a period Klondike costume while on tour in Canada.

Diana's FU black dress.