A Star Is Born - Pete Buttigieg.

A Star Is Born.

He is too inexperienced. We need a woman like Kamala to take charge.

R1 And watch that Star become a Super Nova!

Adore him

Well hung?

R2 The Kamala bot strikes again. She's a lot of show and very little substance. This is not the time for her to run for President and probably never will be.

I like Buttigieg but honestly OP your post sounds like pure PR and I don't believe it for a minute.

Plus it's dumb. Every candidate has flaws and you just haven't seen his yet.

A Presidential candidate who didn't try to get out of serving in the Armed Forces? A miracle!

R7 Dear Debbie Downer - it's time to go to bed now and wake up with a more positive attitude.

He’s pretty

Even Linda Sarsour has taken a bit of a shine to Pete recently and you know how she is.

A could-have-been a Pete wonder boy but now a (Republican) has been.

The closet kills.

The New Breed - out, proud, and married.

We're lucky to see history being made.

Hey, I’m cute, and out

OP of this thread, keep this open until the original thread gets to 580, then link to this thread as thread 2.

Better title for following threads.

Open up

[quote]A Star Is Born.

I am Mrs. Pete Buttigieg.

I have to say the only negative I see with him is his last name lends itself to some humorous take offs. Other than that he has a plan which is sorely missing in a lot of candidates. Plus he didn't shirk military service. That's impressive.

Any shirtless pix yet?

I'll need to see them before I render my final judgement.

They are the kind of 'proper' gay couple that turn my stomach - but I will vote for him.

The US is not ready for a gay POTUS.

I'm glad you're not able to vote for this lightweight loser, OP.

R21 You HAVE to be a Possibility Thinker. If you're waiting for that magic time when the USA is ready for a gay President then that time will never come. The time is NOW.

I just learned today about his playing Rhapsody in Blue with the S Bend orchestra. That tops ALL!

incredible!

Even the 4channers love him. lol

But is America ready for the man going up into the man in the White House?

[quote] The US is not ready for a gay POTUS.

They weren’t ready for a black man named Hussein Obama either or a reality tv star. People don’t give a shit.

Pete would easily get in as a VP.

Ironic isn’t it that the one who has the LEAST amount of baggage and seems the most normal is the gay guy?

Are you kidding? After Trump they’ll all be getting in line to go up, in, and around THAT man, r27.

Nonsense, r7. Read the posts on the other threads about Pete. People are saying....the same exact things. Because he’s that impressive. Even if he were not GAY his ideas would resonate with people here who are just tired of all the chaos and hungry for a candidate who won’t bullshit them and has good ideas and knows how to articulate them and possesses human qualities that we want in a president. Decency. Empathy. Compassion. Honesty. Authenticity. The ability to negotiate from a place of strength. Not a bully pulpit. And as for his inexperience, the same thing was said about Obama. The thing about being really smart is that you are smart enough to hire other smart people to work for you. You have reservations. That is your prerogative. But to tell someone else that their perception is flawed because of your own cynicism is rather foolish. And rude.

I’m not sure if he’s hot enough?

His eyes are a pretty color

I wonder why he's attracted to the husband...? Pete's cute-ish then becomes smokin hot as he talks (that confidence! that intelligence! that shade!). He's extremely accomplished. The preschool teacher balding fem husband, well, he looks like a nice person & all but....

r33 The way Trump is?

HE PLAYED RHAPSODY IN BLUE WITH THE ORCHESTRA!

R37 I know this piece by heart

r37 He is The Prince That Was Promised, you guys!

poor quality video but Adorable Pete on piano!

Good cameo of him towards the end!

Where does it end?

My God! HE could host the Oscars!

R39 The Prince and his Knight in the White House.

He would be great, OP., Unfortunately, he's considered too moderate for the modern Dem primaries,. They disdain anyone from "flyover" country, especially if male.

R35 He married his husband because of something called LOVE. The fact that he took a mate who looks like an ordinary person instead of some impossibly (and generic) handsome man makes Pete even more appealing and down to earth.

Saw Pete on Fox News Sunday and was very impressed. Of course, he's way too inexperienced (from small-town mayor to President?), but he could definitely climb the ladder. I was also impressed by Chris Wallace asking him tough but fair questions. Bill Maher is right....candidates who only go on shows where they only get softball interviews will have a tough time in the general election.

R45 Pete is the Dark Horse who is going to win the White House at some point in time.

Pete as a boy. Apple cheeked and boy next door type.

Americans, and people in general, love this type of person.

He seems so real next to that idiot O'Rourke.

[quote]I wonder why he's attracted to the husband...? Pete's cute-ish then becomes smokin hot as he talks (that confidence! that intelligence! that shade!). He's extremely accomplished. The preschool teacher balding fem husband, well, he looks like a nice person & all but....

Maybe because he’s a man of substance and not as shallow as you? Go back to to slobbering over the empty-headed Beto.

Chasten has a magic boi pussy

Pete is the entire package, with a bright future. Yes R46, he is going to win the WH at some point. I can’t wait until he appears on the debate stage.

r46 Anyone else think he looks especially handsome in profile?

I’m totally head over heels

He's very young yet, give him time. He could run for president again in 2028, 2032, 2036...he'll be relatively young for awhile to come. Plenty of chances for him to make it to the White House if that is his ultimate goal

He should run for Senator or Governor in the meantime, pad his resume.

r55 here, BTW I'm not suggesting that he shouldn't run now if that's what he wants to do; I'm just saying that if/when he comes up short, he (unlike some of the other presidential contenders this time around) has plenty of time to pad his resume and try again in a few years or so.

Sorry, but if God wanted him to be President, He would have made him taller and with RFK rabbit-teeth.

Pete was born on January 19th which makes him a Capricorn - the sturdy Mountain Goat who climbs in a determined manner until he reaches the top.

In his younger days, he looked a little like Michael Cera.

Love the man, but it will all depend if he fits into the Russian's plan. It's their show now.

Russian's plan? which one? or do you mean Russians'?

I'm not sure Pete would appreciate being compared to a goat r58.

Sorry, but if you have fantasies of running down little kids with your car, even during your angsty teenaged years, left the scene of an accident, and have a DUI, you are clearly disturbed and in need of psychiatric help. You do not belong in the White House. The manic way he hops around the stage with the Jaggeresque arm moves makes me nervous and somewhat queasy. Something is wrong with this boy.

Whoops, wrong thread. But you all know I was talking about Beto get some help, right?

Will he show hole before the State of the Union address?

R63, you’re AN IDIOT

the frauen I know all love and respect him

Can you even imagine what this would do for gay visibility across the world, in that parallel universe where he gets the nomination and wins?

I can

Oh, Pete. Love this guy. Crazy how sexy confidence makes someone.

I’m turned ON

No white candidate can beat Trump.

where the fuck did you pull that one out of?

I love Mayor Pete's look. He's like James Bond as drawn by Dr. Seuss. Adorable.

He’s a cutie pattootie

Omg R74 I love it 😂

Pete is really interesting bordering on profound. I'm starting to like him.

Supreme Court Justice Buttigieg has a nice ring to it.

Is he even a lawyer?

No shirtless, no vote.

didn't he pose in playgirl a while back?

I can’t post on the first thread, it’s acting up like a lot of long threads now do.

I just wanted to add that the Morning Joe folks are saying that people are excitedly contacting them following Pete’s segment.

Among all the Pete threads, this thread title is my favorite

So who thinks Pete most likely really has zero skeletons in his closet? Reading between the lines, sounds like Chasten was likely his very first romance...?

He's plain and boring and predictable and absolutely perfect.

He is the antidote to Trump.

But even though he's gay he's still a "White Man" and the Progressive wing will never go for him.

What's his drag name????

[quote]What's his drag name????

Amanda Votefeur

Hisonnah La'Mayer

He's a future Dem star. Maybe not for 2020 but he's definitely going places.

He'd make a great VP choice for Biden but I think Dems feel a woman on the ticket is a must. Too bad.

Stacey abrams

LOVE a Pete + Stacy Abrams ticket -- two people with motherfuckin balls & integrity -- just not sure who should be VP. Pete's so fucking genius I want him as Pres, but don't the like optics of him taking the lead over a more experienced Black woman. (In this case, it'd be because he's demonstrably a motherfuckin genius, not simply b/c he's a white man.)

Ideal world, though. No way America votes in Stacy/Pete or Pete/Stacy... and if it looks like we would, I assume corruption will tamper with the votes, as they did Stacy's GA election and as they've done in every presidential election since 2000. I dream though!

we can dream

Isn't Stacey a lesbian?

Two homosexuals on one presidential ticket? Not in my lifetime.

I'll vote for them

R35 thinks that finding the "perfect" mate is like choosing one's own pizza toppings on PizzaHut.com.

r35 I find them both attractive but I'd go for his husband before I'd go for Pete. People like what they like!

Can he tap dance?

R96 really? Just genuinely curious why

r98 I like my men a bit more goofy-looking, in general.

Pete Buttigieg/Michelle Obama 2020. End of.

r100 Amazing. Make it happen!

Keep dreaming. Michelle has made it clear on numerous occasions including in her own book that she has no desire to ever run for president or anything else. Personally, I think she hated Washington and was more than happy to leave it.

Buttigieg is at 3% in latest poll. That may sound low, but is actually quite an impressive jump given he was a complete unknown. This puts him in the top tier of the bunch.

For the last poster on the previous thread, Mayor Pete came back to South Bend, his home town, to clean up a dying town that was like a small Detroit. The had a Studebaker plant that closed in 1963. It was a company town. After the plant closed, they lost about 25% of the population and there were vacant buildings everywhere.

He started a program of tearing down or fixing up 1000 houses in 1000 days. They set up an app so people could find out how they could buy abandoned houses and get them fixed or torn down for a very low cost.

He helped organize financing so the huge old Studebaker plant could be remade into various businesses. It took a huge amount of money and they’ve been working on it for years. It’s a few buildings and they’ve developed them one by one. They brought a lot of money and business into town, people are not leaving by the droves now and it’s brought in other business. His goal was to bring in some businesses that used the local fiber optics and infrastructure. Income there is still very low, but people are a lot more hopeful and he accomplished a lot to get the falling-apart downtown area updated and open again.

He also worked on a lot of other infrastructure projects locally. He helped out the poor community. He made it easy for a group of low income neighbors to buy an abandoned house, get it torn down and build a park there for example. There were a lot of efforts made for low income people to buy into being a part of the new improvements, so they were invested. He listened to people and created grants to help people that wanted to join in to making community improvements or home repairs but didn’t have the money.

He mentioned in his TED talk on YouTube that he looked at South Bend as something that had to be approached as, “What is already there that can be built on?” From what I’ve read, not much. But he found liabilities that he turned into assets, like the Studebaker plant, which is a big landmark there and was a symbol of decay. Now it’s a symbol of expansion.

I read about him today. When I find a link I’ll post it.

What Mayor Pete has done to South Bend:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/03/21/pete-buttigieg-democratic-presidential-hopeful/3233064002/

There’s a Pete Buttigieg subReddit wherevtgeres some info and links available.

Here's a link for r105.

Pete will be on The Breakfast Club tomorrow.

Pete subReddit

Oh, God.I hope Pete already has an answer for Charlamagne's question, "What are you going to do for black people?!"

Pete will be on Van Jones’ show (CNN) on Saturday afternoon.

He will be on The View (ABC) tomorrow.

That sub is a treasure, r109!

TED talk from 2015, talking about development of South Bend. Very informative and tells you a lot about how he thinks.

He’s very smart

Two stars are born: Truman and Buddy Buttigieg, the Buttigiegs’ two dogs, have their own Twitter.

Here’s a website with some information about his platform.

He's so sharp. He never seems to be at a loss for words.

I was impressed to read that when he was tearing down vacant houses too quickly and the owners complained, he slowed down and told the authorities not to tear down houses that were being worked on, instead of going by how many citations there were.

There’s a lot of very poor people there and they didn’t have the means to fix everything right away. And the city budgeted grant money for repairs for low income people.

What's his record as mayor? What has he actually done?

Here's an essay he wrote and got rewarded by Caroline Kennedy for when he was in high school or college. It's in praise of Bernie Sanders.

R119, read the USA Today article upthread. There’s a lot of detail about his tenure as mayor.

He was first elected in 2011. In that time, unemployment in South Bend has gone from more than 11% to about 4%. They’ve worked on bringing business to the downtown area, formerly a bunch of abandoned buildings. He even changed the main drag to slow down traffic and put in a bike path and a median with plants to encourage people to stop and patronize local businesses, instead of just racing through as they did before. It was all done in a very methodical way. They raised private funds to put in a light show on the river at night, and now have a bunch of festivals and events to bring in business. He’s very growth-oriented.

Even the local Republicans say he’s done good.

Wow, he can run the country then.

Compare him to the narcissistic personality disorder case in the White House who is throwing out every tradition and rule of decency and learns nothing as time goes by. The one who spends his time attacking a dead man and no one in his party calls him out on it.

If that guy can run the country, Pete Buttigieg can do it with both hands tied behind his back.

He’s got a one-eyed dog! He’s perfect!

[quote] and got rewarded by Caroline Kennedy

Not sure that's a positive.

Reminds me of this guy. Wildly popular and elected as President at a young age.

Does that make Chasten our Jackie?

He will make a good VP pick.

Chasten Buttigieg for East Wing Manager!

Or who what kind of music do you listen to, r110. Have you ever smoked pot? Are you for legalization? I don’t doubt that he will give thoughtful answers to those questions because he’s smart enough to know that these are the seemingly innocuous mine fields that can trip up even a really smart person like Kamala. I thought the View was live but I saw a promo for his appearance on the show today and Behar asked him if he thought people would elect a gay president. And he said “well, we’ll find out”. I love this guy.

A reminder. If you want to donate to his campaign then do it before March 31st. Something about the number of donations being a signifier that he is a viable candidate. It would be a shame if someone this smart and visionary fell by the wayside because he couldn’t get his campaign off the ground due to a lack of cash. $20.20. Let’s do this.

Mayor Pete is hot!

What I like about him is that he has that “community organizer” vibe Obama had, but instead of putting his efforts towards registering people to vote, he’s putting his efforts towards repairing and improving infrastructure, growth and jobs creation. He’s another policy wonk.

That’s hard for Republicans to be against, so they’ll probably attack him for being gay. But a surprising amount of Republicans might not care about about his gayness.

Pete's a real leader. He's got the South Bend angle down pat. Americans in similar cities can relate.

At least in modern times, policy wonks don't generally win the presidency.

Clinton was the ultimate policy wonk.

I said generally, I didn't say it never happens.

And Clinton was the exception not the rule.

His wife was a policy wonk too, look where that got her.

Bill Clinton was a genius at hiding his intelligence and policy wonkness behind a show of gregarious, good ol' boy charm and touchy-feely camera ready moments. I doubt that Mayor Pete can master that, but he'll need to in order to go far with voters. Americans love schmaltz over substance.

Yes r137, Bill Clinton could do both, that's probably why he is referred to as President Clinton today.

This morning:

It’s ironic that moderate swing-voters in the Rust Belt states would vote for a guy like this... but Southern blacks (because he’s gay), and liberal Democrats (because he’s a white male) won’t ultimately support him.

Great point, r140. Call me a cynic but Biden floating the idea of picking Stacey Abrahms as his V.P. pick before even declaring he’s a candidate is a chess move meant to sew up those votes right out of the gate. I can see Pete picking a woman for Veep because he thinks she would be as asset to his administration. Not just a naked political ploy for votes. Maybe I need to lay off the koolaid but he hasn’t hit a false note in any of his appearances on television. Wallace wanted sound bite answers to his questions and Pete did his thing and ran the board. He’s something else. The 2015 TED talk was so impressive. He has been thinking about these issues for a long time. And walking it the way he talks it in South Bend. Sigh.

That sounds like something Mayor Pete would say, r138. Impressive.

R140, I know all of those demographics personally, something I doubt that you do, and all are impressed with buttigieg

Mayor Pete has more in common with the small state governor Jimmy Carter.

He has charisma, folksiness and sincerity.

does he have a beer swilling ne'er-do-well brother?

I’m watching him in The View and he’s killing it.

Why say “he could never win” when everything coming out of his mouth makes sense and sounds intelligent? Do people want a dummy to be President? They must be in heaven right now then.

People, Pete ran statewide only once in his career. For State Treasurer. He lost by 65%.

R147 yeah but no one knew who he was, who really puts thought into their treasurer vote, so most voted along party lines in a red state 🤷

He was re-elected as mayor by 80%.

Those are the people who do know who he is.

There are only 100,000 people in South Bend, Indiana......

And Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas. Not exactly an impressive resume for someone who was asking the rest of the country to consider voting for him for President.

Carter was Governor of Georgia and ran a small peanut farm.

Miz sissyboodles is a queen

Bill Clinton was elected Governor of a deep-red state 5 times. Pete failed to be elected State Treasurer of Indiana.

Arkansas is the 33rd most populated state. Vermont - Bernie's stronghold - is 49th.

Uh, Bubba lost his first election too. So what?

He seems really short in R149.

Arkansas was by no means deep red when Clinton first won election as governor (1978). The current red-blue dichotomy crystallized by 2000 but was still in the works in the 70s and 80s.

Arkansas has been racist as shit since the Civil War. The fact that Bill Clinton who was resolutely anti-racist could be elected repeatedly was exceptional.

Before Walmart was the monolith it is now, Arkansas was known for its position as the bottom of the barrel in education. It was always 49th or 50th.

Buttigieg would definitely pick a woman as his V.P., because if he picked a man everyone would assume they were having sex.

he's the best

He's exhibit A in the importance of a good haircut when making an impression on voters. Here his head looks very round because the hair on the sides of his head has grown out. Not the best look.

A pic when the hair on the side of his head is kept short. It's better. So someone should follow him around at all times with scissors and a portable FlowBee.

He looks fine in both pics

He does look slightly cuter in R163. But his non-fashionable look is what he should stick with, it's a better match for his persona and exudes trustworthiness/straightforwardness.

agree with r163. unless he is deliberately trying to reach out to the Playmobil community

and some crossover appeal with Lego fans

He should keep his hair like in r163. He can't have the fashionable sidecut as it would make him look even younger and alienate the older voters even more. His age and his boyish looks are working against him in that regard as it is.

Anyway, I found this on Twitter just now. What a touching fucking story.

[quote]Almost every person I know in South Bend, Indiana is sharing stories like this about Mayor @PeteButtigieg & I’m not cynical enough not to be moved.

R168 Good Lord! That story so good

He has nice cheekbones

He looks like Mr. Bean. There's no avoiding this.

To someone who's an aspie for faces, perhaps.

THIS.DID. HAPPEN I had a romantic dream last night involving me and Pete and it was glorious. Not as much sexy as it was romantic.! Weird.

Is America ready for a gay President?

I'm impressed. He speaks Norwegian. As well as French, Spanish, Italian, Maltese, Arabic and Dari.

Frankly, this country doesn't deserve someone as good as he is.

R176 That's why you have Trump. The USA is sliding down the scale...…….

He's seen everywhere on TV, but why hasn't he requested an audience with the Queen? Not Lindsey, Queen Rachel.

R173, are you sure it wasn't a nightmare?

That was funny R125. We know you're just kidding.

R111, was he really 'on Van Jones'?

But can he throw shade with Trump onstage? That is what the voters value, and what will decide the election.

Hillary either couldn't- or wouldn't.

He’s on Van Jones’ program this afternoon.

And no, he wasn’t ON Van Jones, you silly boy.

r182, He's a Russian Puppet wasn't shade enough?

r182 Hillary threw long-winded shade in the form of anecdotes with three acts. That's too elaborate for deplorables. You need quick nasty cuts, as many as possible.

Is Pete still the Mayor or did he leave his job in 2018?

r186, He's the Mayor until the end of this year I believe.

Both Pete and Chasten post mayoral shit all the time on Twitter. I'm sure South Benders aren't too bothered by him splitting the time in his final year.

Pete makes South Bend PROUD!

“My foxnews watching dad like mayor Pete”

r190 I loved that article when I read it earlier today but forgot to post it here. It sounds a bit too good to be true but that's just me being jaded.

A gay presidential candidate. Named Pete(r) BUTTigieg. Isn’t that a little on the nose?

Well, you can't say the universe doesn't have a sense of humour.

We're not clicking on a DailyKos article, R190.

it's a good article

He is a saint!

Heard the 411 on a police scanner and went to the hospital.

Mayor Pete speaks 7 languages. Impressive.

I like how he is open and upfront he is about who he is and what he believes. In town halls, when answering questions from the audience he actually takes time to think to think before answering on questions he hasn't received before. I'm donating 20.20 to his campaign so he can be in the debates. I want to see how he does against other Dems. I'm from Texas and got into Beto, but compared to Pete, there's no comparison. Go Pete!

I'm sick of Beto.

Great speech. Worth watching. The Democrats should heed his tone, delivery, and ideas.

[quote]I'm from Texas and got into Beto, but compared to Pete, there's no comparison. Go Pete!

Face it, Pete is exactly what people were hoping Beto would be.

Buttigieg it is! I believe that I've heard enough from Pete to support him, and he sounds like the candidate we need in 2020. I will donate to his campaign.

The best in the field. Very intelligent, direct answers, and smart ideas.

Pete shows substance. Beto lacks it.

R204, I couldn’t agree more. Beto is a very good speaker and charismatic, but I don’t really know what his position is on important issues.

Beto has never been my favorite, but after listening to Pete’s CNN town hall, I’m a believer. There wasn’t one question that left me questioning his answer.

Yeah, r168, but I saved a cat from a fire in the freezing cold.

He’s amazing.

[quote]He speaks Norwegian. As well as French, Spanish, Italian, Maltese, Arabic, and Dari.

99.9% of America doesn’t even know what Dari is.

I didn’t; had to look it up. It’s apparently a type of Farsi spoken in Afghanistan.

your point is?

Meaning what, R208: because we don't know what something is it isn't important? I'm glad you looked it up - props to you - but Dari shouldn't count as a language? Or, if you read the story about translating in the hospital in South Bend, knowing it potentially shouldn't matter? I'm not sure of the commonalities, if any, between Dari and Arabic and Somali, which is what most Somalis speak, but it appears from the story he was an effective translator for a terrified mother.

He served in Afghanistan and learned Dari, one of the languages spoken there. Should that be held against him? It may not win him a lot of votes, but if anything it allows him to discuss the US military presence there with more insight into the country, its people, and its problems than 99.9% of the policymakers. He learned Norwegian from scratch because he wanted to read a novelist's work in the original language. That's a kind of intellectual curiosity we need to see much more of in politicians, not less.

I'm sending him money. He's a longshot, sure. He's also young and even if he doesn't win this time, sometimes a failed attempt at the nomination is a good thing: JFK's failure to get the 1956 vice-presidential nod was a blessing because 1: Stevenson lost, and 2: people knew who he was in 1960. Pete is the most impressive candidate I've seen in this cycle from either party (Bill Weld being the only potential Republican candidate I've seen so far that I'd even consider) and I expect he'll be more impressive still in the debates.

He's got a record of accomplishment, too: he's an executive who's worked hard to turn around a dying city in the industrial heartland and he did it by attracting 21st century jobs, not by trying to bring back coal or pander to racists or by trash-talking about his opponents. Even the last name thing isn't a deal-breaker. He's known in South Bend as "Mayor Pete." "Pete for President" and "President Pete" are both easy to say, alliterative, and anti-elitist. And both sound a lot more pleasing to my ears than the words "President Trump."

thanks for writing that

I think Pete can do a lot of things with his life, but standing in line for "his turn" for President doesn't not seem like it would interest him. He is trying to seize this moment. He doestn want to wait and then eventually become the "old" in the race whose time is up!

I think we need a younger President. Society has changed with the speed of light over the last thirty years or so. A younger person is on top of that, an older person isn’t.

It’s not a disparagement on older people, but I’m very concerned about the lack of regulation of Facebook and lack of privacy laws. Right now it’s like if you own any kind of website at all, you’re entitled to know everything about people with no limits. That’s wrong and somebody needs to address it, but Congress is full of old people who take bribes.

That’s just one issue, the main issue that needs to be addressed is that America is resting on its laurels and dropping in every type of ranking by the day.

Pete doesn't stand a chance unless he hires a great media person to increase his social media presence. He can't compete against Beto Bernie and Kamala, and then Trump, without it. Bernie's campaign took off because of its fantastic social media presence.

Love him, also kind of agree with R214. I wonder if he is waiting for more donations to invest in a larger, louder campaign.

He asked for, and received, $500,000 in a day. He’s now asking to double that by the end of the month.

Meanwhile Beto gets millions, but Beto has had a lot of publicity.

He needs to do what he’s been doing, appearing at the opening of an envelope so people can see him and hear from him. He’s attracting a lot of supporters just by showing up.

R201 nailed it. Mayer Pete is what we hoped Beto would be. Thanks, hun!

I PLEDGE FOR BUTTIGIEG!

^ Agree.

I wonder how many Bernie gays (and I know plenty) will switch to Pete now. They have to decide between a centrist Dem in the White House or socialist ideas (which I fully support) that will never get passed in those two years before Bernie gets a shellacking in the midterms. Not to mention Trump's judges foiling him at every possible turn.

Look, Bernie has some good ideas, and I’ve never hated him. But he’s very, very old,

While I don’t discriminate against anyone’s age, we have to be realistic about the age at which any candidate takes office, and no man is invincible or will live forever.

I want a President who can spend the next 8 years in the WH, who’s not morally corrupt, who’s eloquent, intelligent, experienced and knowledgeable, and who has the desire to learn and think outside the box to help improve our country.

Right now, Pete is the perfect candidate based on my criteria above.

[quote]Pete doesn't stand a chance unless he hires a great media person to increase his social media presence.

his presence on social media has increased a lot this past week

Agreed but it was with a huge help from the showbiz gays of Twitter who have been playfully roasting Chasten for his dorky tweets and his dog updates. Perhaps they could even compensate for his smaller war chest, we'll see.

Chasten will make a great East Wing manager. At least he knows how to keep his clothes on.

I want Chasten to burn those tacky golden drapes that are in the current WH. Don’t let me down in the taste department, Buttigieg family!

Drapes are not burnt. They are returned to storage and the blue or red or whatever drapes are put into service.

R225, are you certain that they won’t make an exception and deviate from this rule to get rid of the treason stench?

Well, they ought to be. Nothing like a public burning of that gaudy Gaddafi garbage to let people experience a release from the memories of this regime.

The White House is many this. One of them is a museum. The furnishings of the WH are curated. Someone with authority would have to remove them from the collection for some purpose., first.

r219, I wouldn't worry about it, Bernie won't be getting the nomination or the White House next year.

The knives are out. Charles Pierce has a column up about Pete on his twitter feed. Some of the comments are vicious pertaining to his not addressing women’s issues like late term abortion and racism. That he’s some dark trojan horse Republican because talking about how the Democratic party all but abandoned the voters there is subversive and he’s pandering to the Trumpees. Didn’t Bill Clinton warn his wife that ignoring them would be a grave mistake? And wasn’t HE right? For fucks sake, it’s been less than two months since he announced he was forming an exploratory committee and started fundraising to guarantee a place in the debates for fucks sake. He answers the questions he’s asked. Some, like Sunny Hostin, didn’t like his answer regarding reparations. That doesn’t mean he is not interested in the welfare of minorities. Right now he’s trying to introduce himself to the electorate and it’s important that he explain what his priorities and core values are and his vision for the country. One guy, a Beto fan, said Pete was a waste of time and a distraction. Exactly the way I feel about Beto but I wouldn’t go on twitter and say it. He’s taking away some of the thunder from Kamala and Beto. He wouldn’t be able to do that if people were not liking what they are hearing and seeing.

Dems will EFF this up and eat their own.

Who is Charles Pierce and why is his opinion important.

I live out in Mississippi (working on my PhD), and I definitely could see him being a very solid president down the line. The problem is that he isn’t very high profile, and in a crowded contest like the Dem primaries, the people with names you recognize tend to overshadow (Biden, Bernie, Beto, Kamala... they are sucking up way too much attention). Even when he kicked ass on CNN, by the next day the news cycle basically forgot about who he was. I think a lot of how he is going to do is going to be based on how he builds up his national profile going forward

Thankfully, there's already a backlash to the backlash on Twitter.

[quote]Can we let Pete Buttigieg get to, I dunno, 3% in polls before we start in with the Butti-backlash? He's a sharp, thoughtful, personable, well-read, policy-fluent, boundary-breaking GAY candidate who connects with voters & gets lovey about his hubby on the stump. Let us enjoy this - @jon_frosch

[quote]Y’all are going to stop talking about Mayor Pete like he’s just another straight white male running for office. It’s possible to critique his coverage versus women in the race without erasing the fact what his presence as an openly gay man means. - @ira

[quote]Umm ... JFK had more experience than being a mayor of a medium-sized city.

What are our current president's qualifications, again? Had he even governed a medium-sized city?

Pete's gonna run up against Cory Booker who is also a Rhodes Scholar but who also has a degree from Yale Law School and was mayor of a major city not a little town AND is a Senator.

Booker is a joke and won’t make it out of Iowa.

Except Booker is clearly fucking insane with that talk about staging a wedding to Dawson in the White House.

I ❤️ Pete but he doesn’t have a chance.

Mayor Pete has a huge bump in the latest Emerson Iowa poll. Surged to THIRD PLACE. Amazing!

Booker is not going to be the nominee. Nor is Castro, Schultz, Gilibrand, Hickenlooper, and the other three I can’t remember who are not Kamala, Bernie, or Biden. I think Beto and Pete will cancel each other out. But I do believe if Pete starts getting the REPUBLICAN never trumpers interest and positive word of mouth then he has a chance of being in the top four. Of course, considering what the McElrath wrote on twitter that might be a negative for him. Biden is a weird case. Although he wants so badly to be president, he has decades of negative baggage, and shot himself in the foot before declaring he was even in it by floating SA as a possible VP choice. That deliberately coy slip of the tongue not withstanding. Plus, calling Pence a decent guy means he’s going to depend on his old Republican Senate buddies to help him out and that is not going to happen. No more reaching across the aisle for those band of cutthroats. Even for good old Joe.

Once Bernie starts his screeching , people are going to tune out. People want calm not more screaming, just coming from the other end this time. I see an early out for him and he wont gain the traction needed as his delivery will literally be tone deaf to the times.

from r240 link

[quote]His performance in Sunday's Emerson poll was boosted by placing second in the 18-to-29-year-old demographic, with 22 percent. Sanders led that category with 44 percent.

[quote]“If Buttigieg is able to maintain his momentum, his candidacy appears to be pulling from the same demographic of young voters as Sanders, and that could become a problem for Sanders,” Kimball said.

Granted this is a poll of 249 Iowa Democrats, with a margin of error of 6.2%, 10 months before the Iowa caucuses--so it really like 30 people who are 18 to 29, but . . .

How can people that young prefer Bernie Sanders?

He looks like a mid-market 11 o’clock news anchor 30 years ago.

Sadly, Pete looks like the illegitimate spawn of Alfred E. Neuman and Mr. Bean.

[quote]Alfred E. Neuman

Erm, that would be Beto. And I'm still not seeing the Mr Bean thing. At all. You must really suck at faces.

I really like him. Maybe even more than my crush, Beto. Lol. But I can't see him winning in 2020. I feel like Biden, even with his baggage, is the best bet against Trump, practically speaking. But I have high hopes for Pete in the future.

[quote]Yeah, [R168], but I saved a cat from a fire in the freezing cold.

Oh, Cory--you know you've never been that close to pussy in your life.

r247, that's my biggest problem with him too, he's just too young and not experienced enough IMO.

He could be a real dynamite presidential contender in the future.

He’s a hell of a lot more experienced tHan trump

r250, do we really want to use Drumpf as the measuring stick for any of our future presidents? Talk about aiming low.

I think the first casualties in the Democratic field will be Warren , Hickenlooper, Gillibrand and Booker. Beto won't be far behind. I just can't help but think of Booker and Beto as doofuses.

Most of you are sick of beto because he is a straight male. Lets call a spade a spade. You guys have your gay fantasy president with his first gentleman husband. The good thing is that dl is not a reflection of the real world.

r251 We can start aiming higher the minute that shitbag is out of office. Until then, normal standards are suspended and [italic]everyone[/italic] ought to be measured against the incumbent.

[quote][bold]The good thing[/bold] is that dl is not a reflection of the real world.

r253 Fuck right off of DL, homophobe.

It's pretty amazing how a guy who was considered a joke, if they had heard about him at all (gay midwest smalltown mayor running for President) as almost nobody knew who he was at the beginning of March, is now polling 3rd in Iowa. In 3 weeks! That's extraordinary.

How tall is he? Every pic I’ve seen of him with somebody he’s shorter than they are.

he's a cutie

r253, you posted what I've been thinking. Would Mayor Pete be just as attractive to so many DL'ers if he were a straight boring guy with an ugly wife and 3 little rug rats running around?

I doubt it.

Possibly not, but the smarts ones here have listened to his message and like it regardless of background. He talks a very good talk, and seems very hard working and a good egg. What’s not to like?

I’m a straight female, r253. I find Beto neither compelling or hot. Pete is impressive. He is a complicated and interesting guy. And he is firing up the imaginations of people on the left and center of the Democratic party and even some moderate Republicans. Particularly the never trumpers. I don’t care what he looks like. How fucking tall he is. Whether he waxes his pubes or bleaches his hole. He’s the only one in the current bunch who isn’t pandering, trying to be too cool for school, or is embarrassing himself. He makes sense, he’s pragmatic, yet he is also something of a visionary. And no one seems to give a damn that he’s gay. Now that is real progress.

R244

Exactly. He definitely doesn’t look presidential. Is he a... what’s the appropriate terminology these days? A person of small stature?

Probably the deadest idea he is pushing is the plan to increase the number of justices on the supreme court, and how the new additional justices would be selected by the previously appointed justices. It's DOA, Pete.

Pete's a lot smarter, more honest, and more knowledgeable on the issues than Robert. Plus, no arrest record.

r263, Is there a reason why you had to bash Beto in your defense of Pete? Just wondering.

And actually, you don't even know that to be true; you don't know if Pete is more knowledgeable than Beto about the issues, sorry.

I agree that we don't know enough about Beto. He needs a CNN or MSNBC Town Hall, pronto. Just like Pete did.

R265 he just ran a brutal Senate campaign in Texas. He had 2 televised Town Halls on CNN and MSNBC. All the policies which are currently being discussed were already policy positions Beto had taken in Texas.

I just started watching the Town Halls this month. I've seen Pete, E. Warren, Mr. Starbucks, A. Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard, & John Delaney.

I want to see Beto new and fresh, not just addressing Texas, but the whole nation. I hope he does one before the first debate. The Town Halls have been cordial and not very adversarial or confrontational, which is a good way to roll out policies before a national audience.

R264, you can watch any town hall Pete and Robert have done, and you can see that Pete addresses the issues head on, while Robert delivers platitudes and vague responses. The latter is really not ready for prime time.

In addition, the more information that comes out on Beto, the more corrupt he seems. For example, while on the city council, he pushed through a deal that would have benefitted his already wealthy father-in-law. He made no effort to recuse himself.

R258 Thanks for using his real name. Beto is annoying.

The DNC is going to steal the nomination for Joe like they dd for Hllary. Seniority is a big thing with the DNC and they're all saying "It's Joe's turn",,they are idiots and will never learn. They cant force a candidate the American public overwhelmingly does not like!!

R268 bullshit - the deal didn't go through and Beto had already recused himself. Leave the lying to Trump and the Bros.

I really like him. I hope he has a long career ahead of him, even though it will never involve the presidency. Most famous openly gay guys are very obnoxious, sadly.

Do we want to use Trump as a measure for future presidents? FUCK YES.

And the Slovenian whore as a measure of any future spouses. FUCK YES.

R260 Great comment. I totally agree with you. Mayor Pete is a gem, who is going places.

He is brilliant. He is genuine. I love him.

Dear Pete,

So far so good. Stay away from Hollywood.

Babs

Hope he's the nominee. This country is so ready for a gay candidate!

What gay bubble do you live in, R277?

The bubble of Ironia

I’m ready

No doubt this guy is excellent. I guess if you really break it down, it isn't THAT much of a stretch to think he has a chance. Over half of the country is ok with gay marriage...that says a lot in terms of people ultimately supporting him. I was surprised Obama won knowing how racist the country is. But that was a reminder that the good do outnumber the bad here. He's very mature and extremely well spoken. I'm still not convinced it could actually happen but he seems to be getting some real momentum. Maybe he could get VP. Crazier things have happened.

Catchy song will teach you how to pronounce Pete Buttigieg

I never thought we'd elect a black president in my lifetime, then Obama came along. He was exactly the right person at the right time. I think Buttigieg is the right person at the right time, and I think he will overtake both Bernie and Biden and be the nominee.

[quote]Except Booker is clearly fucking insane with that talk about staging a wedding to Dawson in the White House.

And except for the wee fact that Booker - unlike Pete - is sitting in this thing called 'the closet'. No one likes a liar in this day and age. Be a little braver Cory.

[quote]I’m a straight female, [R253]. I find Beto neither compelling or hot. Pete is impressive

And I am a gay male and find Beto to be charming, uplifting, and with a face that screams I have a HUGE penis. Yum.

After the 2016 tragedy, the gays want a palette cleanser and Beto is just what the doctor ordered.

I think it's between Pete, Beto, Amy, and Kamala.

Warren, Booker, Biden, and Bernie have no chance.

man. he's getting a lot of hate on twitter today. mostly from bernie fans

Yup, the backlash is in full swing now. Apparently, we shouldn't be calling him brilliant because so many of the other (female) candidates are lawyers. Or something.

"Trump should never have been able to come within cheating distance of the Oval Office"

Look at those rosy cheeks! I wonder if his butt cheeks are that rosy too?

I'm glad Bernie Bros are threatened by Mayor Pete. It means they realize their sacred cow is about to be ground into hamburger.

He’s a Rhodes Scholar and speaks eight languages. So that’s what Bernie Bros are calling a dummy now? What until they get a load of that Trump fella.

But Warren taught at Harvard, and Booker went to Stanford and Yale, and Castro went to Stanford and Harvard, and...

Honestly, it all reeks of a pissing match. Meanwhile, Trump University founder Donnie will be laughing all the way to the second term.

Buttigieg went to Harvard and Oxford.

The implication seems to be that it's all worthless because he's not a lawyer. Honestly, people are just butthurt that the female candidates are not getting enough attention and are taking it out on him. Zero respect for the fact that he's the first openly gay candidate because that's inconvenient for their narrative.

Who cares. DL wants this guy to happen badly. I prefer beto. I don't see how great he is besides his obvious sexual orientation. It is the reason he is getting some form of attention in the media. If he was another straight candidate most of you won't give a eff. First he is not that cute and secondly he seems less threatening.

At this rate, the Dems will grab defeat from the jaws of victory.

R296, check out his interviews. He’s not just another loudmouth with an ego as big as all outdoors. I know it seems like he must be, but check out what he says and has actually done.

I told ya! Beto has been getting roasted by the BernieBros and the Ueber-Feminists for weeks... they were bound to get around to Pete. NO WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE. Unless it's Bernie's.

R296 = Beto

On twitter all the black women have started bitching about him. They hate Beto and now they hate Pete. They're all Kamala, all the time.

That song is geektastic

He is impressive and I would consider voting for him when I hear more from him/debates.

Pete is a bottom and that's enough for me to vote for her. As a fellow bottom, I think we need someone who is less driven and macho and toxically masculine and she fits the bill perfectly. I also relish the thought of unprotected anal in the White House, with Miss President taking it up her boihole.

R192 I believe it's said "Buddha-Judge"

You Beto not!

Pete Buttigieg needs to shut the fuck up MidWest-splaining to the coastal Democrats about how we need to understand and speak the language of the "heartland" authentic Americans to woo them to vote Democratic in 2020. CAN it, Mary! We're not the ones voting against our own lives and self-interests. Enough of that shit.

Unfortunate name, butt he has potential.

I do have to say I roll my eyes whenever people start telling coastal people to cater to the heartland.Like what do you fucking mean? Are Californians not American enough for these heartland rednecks? Why do we keep catering to these idiots that should know better by now. The GOP is not interested in their welfare, so why do they keep acting like spoiled children?

R307 another shitskin Harris troll. Pete is just perfect and I'm voting for her.

R304, R310, why are you referring to Pete Buttigieg as "her"?

R311 because she's a beautiful proud bottom!

And you are a fool.

To the dumbasses that dont understand why we need to pay more attention to the Americans in the Midwest/heartland, its because they are the ones that put Trump in the White House and they are the ones that can put him out of it. I live in nyc btw, and if you dont get that we on the east coast and those on the west coast mean crap as far as votes in the next election you are unbelievably ignorant . Its people like you that want to choose super left leaning liberal candidates that cant possibly win in a general election and will give us 4 more years of Trump.

Mayor Pete is super impressive so far and has a lot of qualities that could appeal to those voters we need to win in 2020. The big question is whether his gayness will cancel those out.

I don't think that the narrative that Pete is getting extra media attention is true. Nate Silver broke it down and Elizabeth Warren got 5x more media coverage in the past 30 days. But Pete got significantly higher Google searches and online views.

We already know the blue states are voting for whoever isn't Trump. So it stands to reason we have to pander to the "heartland" (blech!) in order to oust him. If you want more progressive policies, vote on the city, local, and state levels as well. No one is going to transform the US into a social democracy from D.C., much as I'd like to see that happen.

r315 The novelty factor is probably strong with Pete. Everyone already knows a lot about Warren, right down to her DNA.

R317 I'm with Mayor Pete, I'm with her!

It will be fantastic to see Pete with her husband at the inauguration. We will finally have the First Man (and First Top).

[quote]After the 2016 tragedy, the gays want a palette cleanser

Even the ones who aren't artists?

R298. I can't get past the fact that the reason he is getting attention on DL and news stations is because he is a gay man. Besides that is all I see when I look at him. His policies sound very similar to other contenders. There are other great candidates.

R321 she's not just a bottom, she is the hope of a generation. A true progressive patriot. I'M WITH HER. PETE FOR PRESIDENT.

As seen on Twitter:

[quote]Until Warren’s obvious intelligence is seen as an asset (a la Buttigeig learning Norwegian) and not a school marm unrelatable liability, I’m not going to shut up about the double standard.

Literally what? I'm already over this fucking election.

Can't even bother to spell his name correctly when dissing him. We'll have to deal with soft liberal homophobia from the left for as long as he's in the race, won't we?

Fuck that shit

R321 Do your homework on Mayor Pete, and get back to us when you’ve been educated. Tired of your whining and bashing without thought or facts.

You’re also that idiot, juvenile poster R296, aren’t you? Go back to whacking off to your Beto poster.

It’s not just on DL—Pete is getting positive buzz everywhere.

The people on here calling him a “she” and trying to feminize him in other ways have to be trolls because no gay person would be that self-loathing, right?

Pete's right. If the Democrats continue to be a coastal party we're going to keep losing. Period. And he's not pandering to the heartland either. He's speaking truth to them in an even honest tone.

Final three: Pete, Kamala, Bernie. Pete for the win!

r321, that was beautifully dismissive. Coming from a presumed gay person, it certainly places form over substance.

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Much to my surprise, the homophobia on Twitter isn't coming from guys, but from women. "WE the women are going to send him packing", as if he's a uniting element for them. I'm also seeing the same fraus shame him by using Norwegian flags. Because deriding someone for learning a new language isn't Trumpian at all.

He needs to work on his appeal to women, stat.

I think it took a president as terrible as George W. Bush for many otherwise prejudiced Americans to figure they would give a Black man with an African name a shot.

And perhaps, someone as horrible as Donald Trump will prompt otherwise prejudiced Americans to give a gay man with an unusual name a shot.

President Pete: I'm with her. I look forward to the US having a First Husband (and First Top). She will make an amazing President.

President Buttigieg and her top are going to inject some class into the White House.

Stop calling him her/she. Rude!

Hope he's not peaking too soon.

R331.that does not make sense. American people have so many options so your theory that people will give a gay man a chance due to trump is flawed. They might as well vote for Bernie or Biden. People care about policies and experience not some candiadate sexual orientation. Besides there are enough progressive straight male candidates to choose from.

Pete is in 3rd place in the latest polls in Iowa. Ahead of everyone save for the crypt keepers, Biden and Bernie

r336, you miss the minority positive post of r331.

Trump, I believe, will have shown that he broke the mold for future candidates.

Like his lesbian-porno model-whore third wife.

See, SHE makes Chasten Buttigieg come across like a dull 4-H Club member.

It's a good thing.

As a realistic person, I'd be very happy with Mayor Pete as the VP candidate. But thrilled if he ran for POTUS.

R338. Melania is a non issue. Liberals hate her just because she posed nude. She has her faults including wearing that awful jacket to visit the migrant children locked up in a facility but she is doing her job which is to be publicly support her husband. I don't like her but she serves her purpose.

Conservatives SHOULD hate her because she is the whore-consort (or is that consort-whore)?

[quote]I don't like her but she serves her purpose.

hardly, she's never ever seen doing her purpose, ever. she's the most vacant distant first lady every

[quote]she's the most vacant distant first lady every

You look into her eyes and you can tell that the lights are on, nobody's home and the furniture has been stolen.

She's a hooker. The First Hooker.

How many everyday people who don't follow tons of politics and who just saw a couple of Mayor Pete's speeches and appearances on news shows don't actually know he's gay? I'd say a whole lot. The first time he's asked a question during a debate that starts with, "As a gay man..." and he's done. This is still America, after all.

R342. She does the bare minimum. She supports her husband and that is enough for what is expected of her.

r345, he has already been asked and answered that question. He pivots to civil rights then to marriage equality and ends up reaffirming his Christian faith through marriage as it has brought him closer to god.

It is a BEAUTIFUL answer that appeals to all non-evangelical Christians. Evangelicals do not vote Democratic. Their souls are owned by Trump.

He is good.

The best in the field.

He is the kind of man that we eldergays made possible.

I am so proud of him.

[quote] The first time he's asked a question during a debate that starts with, "As a gay man..." and he's done. This is still America, after all.

not so fast

[quote]Melania is a non issue. Liberals hate her just because she posed nude.

No, I hate her because she’s a cold old hooker who settled for possibly the most awful person in the world.

Trash, the both of them. Zero respect.

[quote]I don't like her but she serves her purpose.

That is one of the most stealth-misogynist things I have ever heard. Serves her purpose? To just stand there and not say anything? Sorry, but she should take a hint from Hillary and Michelle and get fucking involved. But she can't because she doesn't have a personality to speak of. Besides, "getting involved" wasn't part of her deal with Donnie when they got together, so she can't be bothered.

Anyway, even typing something about her leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Back to Pete and Chasten for me.

r347 I like that answer even though I believe he - just like Obama and Hillary - is far too smart to be religious and it's all just for show.

Trump is the closest thing to an unashamed atheist president we're going to get this century, and that just might be the only part of him I identify with. Though of course, he worships himself, but that's another matter.

[quote] - is far too smart to be religious and it's all just for show.

I work in a church, a big one, and believe it or not, liberal Christianity is on the upswing. it's the traditional branches like the episcopalian who are leading it but the believers I know personally are all ardent in their believe in God, but hardcore liberals, every one. Buttigieg has spoken about this

During an appearance on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” last week, the 37-year-old from South Bend, Ind., made a modest plea: “I do think it’s important for candidates to at least have the option to talk about our faith,” he said. He specifically targeted the idea that “the only way a religious person could enter politics is through the prism of the religious right.”

An Episcopalian and a married gay man, Buttigieg pointed to the core Christian concept that “the first shall be last; the last shall be first.”

He added: “What could be more different than what we’re being shown in Washington right now — often with some people who view themselves as religious on the right, cheering it on? . . . Here we have this totally warped idea of what Christianity should be like when it comes into the public sphere, and it’s mostly about exclusion. Which is the last thing that I imbibe when I take in scripture in church.”

Very smart guy

[quote]The US is not ready for a gay POTUS.

What?

The DL's beloved is on Chris Hayes right now. Looks like he's Chris' new Bernie.

Who is Chris Hayes?

Chris Hayes: "You say you can speak eight languages. I don't believe you."

MSNBC All in with Chris Hayes. He is Bernie's Number One Fan.

r354 Well, that's extremely disappointing to hear. Hopefully that's just people abandoning more aggressive strains, and religiosity in general falls as decades pass. So this country can finally become normal.

don't worry about the liberal leftie faiths, worry about the ignorant Bible bangers

President Pete will save our Republic - I'm with her!

The Episcopals are pretty cool. The priests can marry, they ordain women, they have an annual blessing of the animals at St. John the Divine Cathederal in NYC. A really lovely gathering of humans and their owners. They hold art shows, music programs, a concert to celebrate the Summer Solstice that is held at sunrise, beautiful artwork, and lots of nooks and crannies to commune with whatever higher power you need to. I’m Pagan and I love to go to the Cathederal just to recharge my batteries. It’s a very positive place. And they still have an apprentice program to teach stone cutting.

If "no religion/atheist" were listed in order on a list of prevailing beliefs in America, it would come in second behind Protestants and ahead of all other religions. I lose respect for people when they proclaim a belief in a god. I know they didn't even bother to think through what they were brainwashed with when they were children or are so emotionally unable to cope with reality that they have to cling to make-believe as solace.

Buddhists believe that life is suffering. That’s about as real as you can get. I feel sorry for you, r366. You are no different from the judgemental, self-righteous zealots who judge others because they do not believe as they do. Just like them you think that your way is the only way. My “religion” gives me joy. And I take full responsibility for my actions and the consequences. My only problem with Christians is that so few of them know anything that is steeped in truth about the man they are venerating. And even less of them practice the philosophy by which he lived his life. All religion boils down to one tenet. Treat others as you yourself would like to be treated. Works for me.

“Do you know what’s wrong with you?”

“No.”

“Nothing.”

R367, do you really believe there is a sentient, giant being sitting in judgment of your daily actions?

I to like him Bittigieg—-but he looks like the kind of Gay whose boyfriend will be in his 20s—-no matter how old he is.....His “first husband” is in for a surprise and no wedding band is going to change that....

R370

You must be a joy to know.

Instead of being bitter and cunty, learn how to write a coherent, and properly punctuated comment.

He looks like the 40 year old gay who hits on 20 year olds because he “relates” to them. It gives me no joy to say that—-But I can spot this gay a mile away.

I’m a Pagan, r369. I work with many Gods and Goddesses in my practice as a witch. Notice I said WORK with. And let me tell you, I have seen and heard things that can’t be explained. A small figure, the element of fire, dancing in the flame of a candle. Someone I was with saw it too. The disembodied voice of a friend who passed away who came to say goodbye. I lived in an apartment with a ghost. I’ve had many precognitive dreams. The smell of a cigar in my apartment when I was alone and I don’t smoke. Or the scent of perfume when I am not wearing any. These indicate the presence of an Orisha. All I’m saying is if people take comfort in believing in a higher power and they are living up to the tenets of their faith then I have no problem with it.

Well, I have a problem with crazy people being president, so...

Would the people who want to argue about religion stop derailing this thread and take it elsewhere, please.

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Pete doesn't tolerate GOP bullshit. Morning Joe was trying to suck him into the Republican talking points of Socialism Abortion and he shot Joe down stat. Other Democrats would've started apologizing like Beto does.

When Pete becomes President, will he wear his military uniform when speaking to the troops?

Won’t need to, but he’ll get more respect than traitor in chief now

R377 Pete is turning into a Morning Joe regular. Possibly a big mistake.

I think she looks great in uniform. But she's not butch. She's so obviously a bottom it's delicious.

r372, and I can spot an envious, pathetic gay. I can spot this gay a mile away and i can smell the desperation further.

F&F'd because you project your own bitterness on him.

Buttigieg Bump!

LOL. the JoeMyGod comment section is in full meltdown because Pete joked about a chicken sandwich

Huh??

r384 Yeah, I'm seeing the same on gay Twitter. But he said exactly what any politician should say. You can't start a presidential campaign by denouncing a fast food chain; that just looks bad and alienates some of the electorate right out of the gate.

We need a Teflon Democratic candidate to beat Trump in 2020. Please no 'experiments'.

But I don't know how we'll get the Millennials, LGBTQIA, minorities, pussyhats, #me2's, Bernie Bros. etc. to rally around an experienced old white guy.

I’m willing to bat for him

I'm automatically suspicious of anybody the alleged liberal media is promoting - like Pete.

Trump is great for their ratings and they all work for billionaires. They want Trump to win again - it's all a charade.

And that is a PERFECT thing for a bot to say^^^

r385, he joked about Chick-Fil-A

So was Pete on Morning Joe again today? I slept right through the show. Mika and Joe like him, marvel at the buzz surrounding him, and will probably take credit for promoting him and recognizing his greatness early on if he by any chance winds up in the finale;) I missed him on All In last night as well. Fuuuuck.

Petey-pie on Chris Hayes' show last night:

Wow I just read that Pete's dad died not even two months ago. He and his mom were longtime professors at Notre Dame in South Bend. Sad!

I wonder why he came back to IN to begin a political career. That state is not known to support Dems, esp not left-leaning or openly gay ones. He would have had a better foothold if he'd stayed in MA after Harvard or perhaps moved to Chicago (an hour away) or someplace else. I don't believe he'll ever be able to win a state wide office in IN, unfortunately. Hopefully this won't hurt his future political prospects because obvs he's terrific.

Thanks, r393.

I like his inter generational alliance theme. Old men running this country needs to stop.

Is it me or did Hayes seem somewhat hostile? Reminded us that Pete lost the race for state treasurer. That SB is smaller than the Bronx. And that he didn’t believe that Pete spoke eight languages. But Pete had the last word when he told him that he doesn’t pretend to be a linguistgenius and that it would be a good thing to have a president who is curious about the world and other cultures since we will have a lot of fence mending to do after Trump. That shut his gob, by golly. Bravo, Pete!

^ linguistic genius^

R397, I thought the same thing about Hayes being hostile in that interview. But one of the things I love about Pete is that he is never put on the back foot by hostile interviewing. He never (or at least not that I've seen, and I've watched quite a few interviews now) comes across as embarrassed or awkward or struggling for an answer. He just comes up with a great response and sails onwards. But at the same time, he doesn't do that by giving evasive answers, or seeming to be rehearsed. It's really impressive. In that Hayes piece, I got the impression right at the end that CH knew he'd been a bit of a dick, but was impressed that he hadn't been able to prevail.

I’ve read that Hayes is all in for Bernie. It wouldn’t surprise me if he also favored Gilibrand. Pete didn’t look all that comfortable or happy when the interview started. I wonder if there was some awkwardness between him and Hayes before the interview. Pete isn’t anti-Bernie. He won an essay contest lauding his courage and authenticity by being true to himself and running as a Democratic Socialist. I agree with r399. Nothing seems to knock him back on his heels because he answers honestly and gives thoughtful answers. In other words, he talks them to death. None of them seem prepared for that. That amuses me.

You have to pander to North Carolina and Arizona which have a net gain with Democratic new voters over the heartland where Dems have a tepid net gain with New Democratic voters.

R394 its all laid out in his book "Shortest Way Home"

[quote]If "no religion/atheist" were listed in order on a list of prevailing beliefs in America,

Except “no religion” and “atheist” are not the same thing. Generally atheists, like vegans, are people you want to avoid, especially on a long-haul flight. Atheists can be as evangelical about as Jehovah’s Witnesses.

^ *Atheists can be as evangelical as Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Most of the MSM has been giving Pete an easy time. But Chris Hayes is showing how the BernieBros are going to go after him if he rises in the polls. For the time being, they're too busy trashing Beto O'Rourke.

r373 Grow up.

[quote]She does the bare minimum.

DEES iss LIE! I no do NOODS no more! I be best!

r403 You're ridiculous comparing the two. Show me the atheists who fight against SSM and abortion. Won't find them. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Mayor Pete just announced that he’s not excepting money from fossil fuel PACS!!

r409 Oh, DEAR!

I better start getting my canvassing caftan ready, this guy is growing on me.

R409 nobody so far is accepting PAC money, so that's standard procedure.

Pete nails why Hillary lost.

"He needs to work on his appeal to women..."

Just what would you suggest?

Sorry, but every time I see his name I can't help but think:

Steve ButtPLUG

Is that an example of internalized homophobia?

Not that I care--- I still think it's funny in a silly, puerile way.

^^^saying what a lot of us think.

Chris Hayes can't stand the fact that he's interviewing a presidential candidate who is the same age as he is. It makes "golden boy" Chris not feel quite as golden anymore.

Also, Chris Hayes always comes across as smug in an "I know better than you" way. You can tell Hayes likes to think of himself as the smartest person in the room (not saying that's the case, but he likes to think so). So now he is faced with someone who really is the smartest person in the room.

I can't stand Hayes and his constant fellating of Sanders and AOC.

Am sending my first $$ to a political candidate this year to Mayor Pete.

r419, YAAAAAAAAA!!!!

At least Pete could pull of the sentence "I did not have sex with that woman" better than any of the other male candidates.

Not sure why you think he doesn’t resonate with women. He does with smart women. Young and old. Some of you need to get out more.

Pete's up in the new Quinnipiac poll but nowhere close to the leaders Biden/Bernie/Beto.

Name recognition, r243.

Is it true Pete's only 5'7"?

There's a theory that the tallest person always wins.

Same logic drove McCain to pick a shorter VP. He got the only woman who fit the bill.

It needs to go away.

R425, all the old rules are out the window, witness the Orange Idiot. There once was a theory that a crass, narcissistic bully could never win, but here we are.

Trump would never stoop as low as to mock him for being gay, would he?!

The Daily Show covers Pete Buttigieg

R27, You REALLY think Mayor Pete would be the very 1st gay POTUS? Most Americans are no longer so clueless.

This trending on Twitter. Pete playing basketball with kids in wheelchairs.

What have I done with my life?

Pete's Sister Souljah's moments (Chick-fil-A, virtue signaling) lmay help him a lot.

Sorry for the typos.

The New York Times mostly favorable article on him called his resume

[quote] "comically overstuffed."

It might be helpful if his campaign released High School pictures of him streaking or something. Something fallible, human, but harmless.

r434, the NYT does not understand the resume of an unknown.

I will still place Pete's accomplishments beyond those of most of his competitors.

Mayor Pete is a guest tonight on ‘Real Time’ with Bill Maher.

That will help determine how tall he is, since Bill is pretty short.

If he's short (5' 8" or shorter), we already know how Trump will denigrate him if Pete becomes a threat. "Lil' Petey" or "Mayor McCheese". It's crude and unimaginative, but it will work at his rallies.

Trump would want to use "Mayor Buttplug", but he'll just let some in his audience say it for him as he smiles approvingly.

Yes. "Mayor Buttplug" is inevitable. Little Petey would probably be worse. I hope Pete doesn't get the podium right next to Beto at the debates. Beto's 6'5". Hopefully he'll be standing next to Julian Castro who's 5'4".

Nothing is inevitable.

Wait for our No-Neck Mushroom-Dick president to make the first move.

He’s gay. He’s no stranger to pointless bitchery. But that isn’t the way to go. He can throw major shade. He’s subtle about it and smart enough to know who to read. That works in his favor. When Trump starts in with the insults he should take the high road and honestly talk about what it’s like growing up being bullied for being different. SO many people have that experience and can relate.

I love the buzz about him

All the media coverage is starting to backfire. On MSNBC they have started bitching about him getting more airtime than Elizabeth Warren. Pete is the new Beto!

r444 MSM needs to fill their news cycle. He is smart enough to know that this will happen.

He has moved on to fundraising in California. Word is he got bigger crowds than Harris.

THAT is the story. People are showing up for him.

I’m posting this in all the presidential threads. So accurate 😂

R444, each of the white males is getting more coverage than everyone else combined. Same as it ever was.

Pete is getting close to overexposure like Beto was. He's on Bill Maher tonight. The Feminists will be sharpening their knives. And if he's goes any higher in the polls, Bernie'll sic his trolls on him.

R448, Well finally the media focus is getting very interesting. Would love to see how Mayor Pete handles the inevitable crude insults about his last name. Many of us have been consistently bullied throughout our lives. Hope Mayor Pete also addresses kids who've committed suicide after being harassed and bullied online.

r447 yes a lot of focus on the white males but are you going to complain if the final candidate is one of them? You realize that our side has to field a candidate that will win the overall general election, and not just the Dem primaries. And the general voting population likes to vote safe, as a whole. Vote for what they are used to and what makes them 'comfortable' esp in difficult times. Well guess what that is unfortunately.

I want more than anything to see the current loser POTUS thrown OUT of the WH. OUT. I will see that via any means available, and if a white male Dem frontrunner is it, then so it will be.

Please stop trying to create a false narrative that Pete is alienating to women. It is simply not true. The “Feminists” are not out to get him. I have seen exactly two Twitter accounts that were critical of him and one was that McElrath cunt who misread something he said and had to backtrack and apologize and delete her mean tweet. The other one is named Krott. She’s the worst of the two. I think she’s for Beto. Warren and Klobuchar are falling back because of their own self created messes. Kamala is busy throwing shade at Biden. Tracey Abrams is having none of the talk about playing second fiddle to an old white man. And I don’t vote for anyone based on what a celebrity thinks. Pete may not make it to the finish but he’s going to be a major player in the Democratic party the same way Abrahms will be.

R450, the problem is that those white males might not be the best. They might just be getting the best press. Perception beats reality every time. The media is picking the Dem candidate. They should be giving equal, fair coverage to all the viable candidates (viable being the ones who've met the threshold to take part in the debates). They aren't. They've chosen their favorites and now they're going to make them everyone's favorites. The bias toward the white males isn't inherent to the race, it's inherent to the media.

I think that Pete is getting a lot of press because he has a good story. Relatively unknown, young gay mayor with a funny name, a funny husband, who served in the military and speaks 7 languages. He holds a very impressive town hall, which gains him attention, which gets him spots on morning shows, people are impressed, he gets more invitations, and the buzz begins to spread.

I knew very little about Pete until the town hall, but I was incredibly impressed by it, and have been keeping an eye on him since. The more I see him the more impressed I am. It seems like I am not the only one who feels that way. The growth of awareness and the buzz around him feels very organic, and not at all like the media has decided to pick him over any of the other candidates. He's having a moment, and he is using that moment well. It won't last forever, but it may help him get closer to the White House than anyone thought possible, it happened with Obama, so who can say?

Honestly, Pete feels like a breath of fresh air in politics, he is intelligent, thoughtful, he seems honest, and so far there don't seem to be any looming scandals.

I don't know if he will get the nomination, but I would love it if he did. He seems to have the ability to appeal to a wide spectrum of people from left to right, and he is absolutely the opposite of Trump in terms of intelligence and demeanor. The deplorables won't vote for him, but they are firmly in the grasp of their God-Emperor, so working about them is a losing battle.

I will vote for whatever Dem gets the nomination, but I will be really happy if it's Pete.

Do you really think that America is going to elect a gay man as president? This America?

Maybe, maybe not R454. They elected (not really) a reality show host and long-time grifter. Pete is a non-threatening gay, and I don't mean that in a bad way, he comes across as very grounded, he isn't camp, and so far at least he is demonstrating appeal to a lot of demographics, not just the coasts and the liberals. It helps that he was in the military, talks about his religious faith, and is married. He is matter of fact about his sexuality. He doesn't hide it, but he doesn't make a huge deal about it either. Most of the references that he makes to being gay are related to the Supreme Court decision that has allowed him the freedom to marry.

Maybe this America won't elect him, maybe they will surprise us and they will. There were a lot of people that thought that Barack Hussein Obama couldn't get elected because of his name, his experience, and because he was black, but those people were wrong. People also thought that a person who has demonstrated in ample ways that he is a vile piece of shit, and has displayed that since the '80s, with no political experience could get elected. Those people were also wrong. I was one of them.

At this point we are coming up on 2.5 years of depressing Trumpian shit. Years of outrage, years of WTF? It keeps continuing with his behavior since Barr's announcement about the Mueller report. Right now, Pete gives me hope. If he doesn't get the nomination at least he is building his name, building awareness, and creating opportunities so that maybe in 2024 (which would be the worst) or 2028 he will be a viable candidate. I think he has a bright political future ahead of him, and I am glad of it, because he, and people like him are what we need in this country. I say that as a gay man who thinks that Pete's sexuality is one of the least interesting things about him.

Mayor Peter has a great future ahead of him.. And I have no idea why people think women won't vote for him or feminists are out to get him. That's just total bs. I know many women who are very impressed with him so far.

Ira Madison and Sally Field's son met him today.

This is my last update on him as I'm out. Can't support anyone who uses alt-right terms like "virtue signalling"; the exact same term that is bandied around by homophobes every single time there's a gay character in a TV show or a movie. He's literally shaming people for speaking out against corporate homophobia. First the "coastal elites", now this. Too bad as he was promising, but that's just a bit too much deploratalk for my liberal soul to take.

Anyway, I wish him good fortune in the wars to come and all that...

Meh. I'd guess, judging from his appearance on Maher, that he is getting some sweet, sweet Pritzker $$$$

What's Pritzker?

[quote]Can't support anyone who uses alt-right terms like "virtue signalling"; the exact same term that is bandied around by homophobes every single time there's a gay character in a TV show or a movie.

Virtue signaling doesn't mean what you (apparently) think it means.

A gay man in the Midwest who knows how to talk to conservatives? Say it isn't so, Gomer, say it isn't so,

Joe Biden is done. Finished. Ah-put (spits to the side). Mayor Pete is all we have!!!!!!!!

So many crazy radical feminists are pissed at him

HRC devotees are mad at hell over an interview from January. How dare he not bow to HRC.

R464 65M people voted for Hillary. Not a smart move trashing her.

Pete's the same height as Bill Maher. Maher's 5'8".

R462, Las Vegas Review Journal's headlines just today had a local politician complaining about being fondled by Joe Biden. He's a compulsive groper, especially of very young girls.

R465, I don't see that statement as TRASHING HRC as much as disagreeing with her point of view re her statement of perceived complacency. Just because citizens vote for a candidate doesn't mean that they agree with everything that person says. Many Americans are not and will in fact never be satisfied with the status quo. Improvements can always be made.

I don't think Biden wants to run for President. His wife wants him to run for President. She's pushy as hell. But if more of the groping stuff comes out, she may decide it's not worth it.

I can't believe people have latched onto the chick fil a comments and are taking them so seriously. Did anyone here watch the full interview? It was a lighthearted response to a pretty silly question. Chick Fil A is the most popular fast food joint in the country. Whether you boycott or not, it aint going anywhere.

[quote]All the media coverage is starting to backfire. On MSNBC they have started bitching about him getting more airtime than Elizabeth Warren. Pete is the new Beto!

It was only a matter of time.

Is there any arcane seniority rule stating that Warren should get more airtime than younger candidates?

Pete talks about growing up gay and finding love.

I'm a Hillary fan and still have no problem with what he said. There was a lot of angst in the country and Trump spoke to that. I think Mayor Pete is too inexperienced for the big leagues right now but his future is super bright.

Please stop with the feminists hate Pete me m. It's just not true.

He has caught fire in polling, kind of took me by surprise but he's already entered top tier.

Sounds to me like just another slick, triangulating Third Way corporatist Democrat-Lite.

r473 He'll prove if he's ready for the big leagues or not by his actions, Bidens old as hell and has proven consistently he's not ready

Pete's hitting all the right notes. He can win back the Midwest.

Feminists are against him, he’s trashing HRC, he’s a Corporatist Democrat, Alt-right dog whistles, and Pritzer money. Or is it Prizer? Whatever. Someone is trying very hard to dissuade us from liking him.

So now people are angry at him because he wants to win voters in the Midwest and the rust belt? They're angry because he doesn't call them racist for voting for Trump last time. There is not a Democratic candidate running that is going to call them racist but for some reason Pete is the person to hate right now

Hillary fans will be the Bernie Bros of this election. They build her up into some kind of God that no one is able to criticize for any reason whatsoever and anyone who does they will try to tear down. I say this is someone who voted for her in both the primaries and the general election. Someone who hosted a Hillary viewing party the night of the election. Someone who volunteered for her campaign. And who donated a good bit of money to her campaign. But 2016 was 2016 and we need to move forward

Plenty were mad at Bernie for constantly excusing Trump voters, and I recall people being mad at Biden and Franken and Obama when they all blamed the 2016 loss on Hillary and not the crazy fucking bigots who voted for Trump. For over two years a lot of Dems have been angry because they want the DNC to acknowledge that there's a huge racism problem, that the GOP cheated, that the media has failed us, and instead these guys want to give us soundbites about how it was all Hillary's fault.

Failing that, people want current candidates to stop using the 2016 loss as an excuse to bash a prominent Democratic Party member in a bid to suck up to Midwesterners in states that probably won't go blue anyway.

It's concerning that Buttigieg didn't realize that jumping on the Hillary-bashing train wouldn't go over well.

Some of the same people on this thread saying Buttigieg criticizing a fellow Dem is just fine, are off on other threads telling people to stop criticizing Biden because "the party should stick together." Why doesn't that go for Buttigieg?

In the Friday Times article about Mayor Pete there was a great man-in-the-street line about Beto that was so spot on: "I think Beto has a dance track going in his head when he's speaking."

The president and the Republican Party chant "lock her up" every time that Hillary Clinton's name is mentioned. They've convinced a good portion of Americans that she literally had people killed. They have convinced them that she is running a corrupt operation and that she's involved with a child sex ring masquerading as a pizza shop. And we are upset because someone who endorsed her and voted for her has a very slight criticism about one of her tactical decisions in the last election? I'm pretty sure she's a big girl and can handle it.

Pete looked to be a good two inches taller than Maher last night. Unless he was wearing lifts.

I'm donating money to his campaign. Deep down, I think he's a very long shot, but I want to encourage him to go for it.

I agree, OP. He's a rising star. I saw him last night on Bill Maher.. he got a standing ovation and lots of applause. He was on The View, too. He is very impressive and intelligent. He's the smartest candidate out there...gaining momentum. I like him!

Can you imagine trump and Pete in a debate? Dumbo and (almost) Einstein.. lol.

Ok, let’s have a show of hands: who else on this thread served in combat, speaks 7 languages, graduated from Harvard, is a Rhodes Scholar, and has served as an elected public servant before the age of 38?

He is also an accomplished pianist.

That gets my vote

So which one is Sally's son?

This far out Carter was Jimmy who?

Who would have thought that the gay guy would take the moral high ghround?

GO PETE!

Though he's liberal, he's still a Hoosier, so you can't expect him to by in sync with coastal norms. He's going to be able to connect with the rest of America.

He synced with coastal cash this weekend...

R483, I think the reasoning is that since the Repugs have made her into the devil incarnate, the piling on by Democrats is unnecessary and in bad taste. And, it's also sexist. Al Gore and John Kerry were never treated like that by other Democrats and they lost without Russian meddling and hacking or Bernbros acting like huge sexist dicks by moving to Trump in enough numbers to swing the election.

R480 BernieBros will be the BernieBros of this election.

Something you might add to your nightly prayers-

[quote] ... and Lord, please make sure that Mayor Pete's campaign steers clear of the advice and influence of Robby Mook. In Jesus' name we pray.....

R492, Agreed. Solid Blue state voters seem to want to pull presidential candidates to the Progressive Left where they may not win a national election. Better to find out what actively voting Independents & Swing voters favor. What is their gut emotional reaction to candidates?

Bravo, r496.

Chasten is friends with hilary’s Campaign manager

Chasten's family is from northern Michigan. He says they took it badly at first when he came out, but at least his mom seems to have come around based on his social media. Not sure if they're Trump supporters, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Does he have a favorite Abba tune?

His answer may get my vote.

I'd guess Super Trooper Lights

There's no Abba song called 'Super Trooper Lights'.

No vote for you!

501 The Visitors.

R502, It's called "Super Troupers."

R504, What's "501 Th e Visitors?"

No R505

It's called Super Trouper.

Hopefully Mayor Pete would pick you up on that.

Do you think he has seen Mamma Mia a dozen times at least?

Funny but the lyrics are about the LIGHTS. I have always found it odd that the song about super trouper lights is called super trouper.

Posted that for a reason for all you old and horny

Their wedding dance?

Cuties

Mayor Pete's ABBA tune for 2020:

It appears that plenty of the original Pete threads have fallen by the wayside and that THIS thread will be the ongoing Pete thread.

Good title.

Chasten appears to have his mother's nose. Interesting that he is from T.C.

Big push to donate because today is the end of the first quarter of 2019.

Made another Pete donation.

Mayor Pete Inauguration song Go West

So far a 7 million dollar haul!

Is he a bottom?

r516 is why we cannot have nice things.

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[quote]Hillary fans will be the Bernie Bros of this election.

Nice try BernBro. This imaginary backlash against Pete is total fiction fabricated by Russian troll farms and Berntards like you. If anything, Pete has received a warm welcome by pretty much everyone.

Campaign Song - One Moment in Time

I want one moment in time When I'm more than I thought I could be When all of my dreams are a heartbeat away And the answers are all up to me Give me one moment in time When I'm racing with destiny Then in that one moment of time I will feel I will feel eternity

Mayor Pete will appear on Ellen April 11th.

And on with Lawrence O'Donnell tonight.

Oh, my goodness, the Bernitary-Destructional Complex is in full panic mode at r475

Su pa pa Trou pa pa

Why we love Mayor Pete

Damn, Guy Branum has been eviscerating Jill Filipovic and others on Twitter in the past hour for saying Pete is just another white man and that he's punching above his weight. It's quite something to behold, and I agree with every single word. All this backlash because he outraised Warren in Q1. Not a word about Biden's or Bernie's hauls.

The homophobia and dismissal from the left is bothering me way more than the usual homophobia from the deplorables that is yet to come. This particular can of worms is now wide open, and it's a sickening display.

I liked his pronunciation primer for Lawrence O'Donnell last night: Buddha Judge. Very easy to remember and pronounce.

And by the end of the segment Lawrence transitioned to Buddah-jedge. More correct.

At 2:19, R528, Mayor Pete is clearly saying "judge," not "jedge."

He looks uncannily like Alfred E. Neuman. Tragic.

There's nothing he can't do!!!! A Star Is Truly Born!!!

Reading through tweets by white feminist cunts up in arms that Buttigieg is getting media attention just reminds me why I hate Hillary Clinton and everything she stands for. They're so full of hate. A total reminder of the homophobia that exists among liberals.

R532, you just called women cunts in the first sentence of your post. Look in a mirror. If you are being attacked, it might be self-defense.

Straight white women are every bit as toxic as straight white men. They need to be including themselves when they go on their spiel about white men.

Straight men and MARRIED straight women, R534. Funny how so many around here never seem to remember to blame the almost 70% of white men who are Repugs. If men weren't allowed to vote, no Repug would ever be elected anywhere in the nation. Stop attacking only women all the time.

Meanwhile, Chicago's new mayor is a black lesbian. Think that means anything for Buttigieg's chances or is it just a liberal city that isn't a bellwether for anything national? I honestly don't think there is any way in the world that America elects a gay guy. He can talk about being gay all he wants but the first time he kisses his husband on camera, it's over.

r535 According to DL stereotypes, black people are homophobic and sexist, compared to liberal white voters. But if black voters in Chicago can support a lesbian mayor now, maybe they're ready for a gay president too.

Lesbians don't bother them as much as it's kind of a kinky straight thing to watch two girls go at it.

I love petey

[quote]Lesbians don't bother them as much as it's kind of a kinky straight thing to watch two girls go at it.

You obviously haven't seen Lori Lightfoot and her wife. No one was voting because of the 'ooh, lesbians' factor.

"When Northeastern initially planned Buttigieg’s visit to Boston nine weeks ago, organizers set aside a room that fits around 200 people. As interest in the candidate’s talk grew, the school moved the event to an auditorium that could accommodate 500 people and eliminated the need for tickets. The expanded event still drew an overflow crowd. More than an hour before Buttigieg took the stage, hundreds of people stood in a line that stretched around the building."

Pete is finished. He said ALM.

WTF is ALM?

So many of you shit all over black people who want to vote for black people or women who want to vote for women but oh how the tune changes when a gay guy runs.

Sometimes I feel like he panders too hard to the center for my comfort, but we could really use those swing voters if we're going to win in 2020.

R544...really use? They are essential, bottom line, which is why he's pandering to them.

Pete is no idiot. So long as southern hicks and midwestern rednecks hold a massively disproportionate amount of power to elect our President thanks to the electoral college, we are stuck having to cater to them.

I do believe he cares about the midwest, but I don't think he really believes the Dems are equally to blame for the hardship in their lives, the way he makes it seem in his interviews--that we somehow forget about them, when in reality our leaders were the only ones who tried to give them healthcare, improve the middle class, etc. He knows the Republicans/Corporations exploited the bigotry and ignorance of these bumpkins to get them to vote against their own interests for the past 30-40 years...while coastal cities thrived under liberal state governance.

But he's not going to win them over by saying this. You have to play the game. So long as they hold the power in the way the current system is drawn up, you have to undo the brainwashing slowly, with a spoonful of sugar.

I just hope that if he wins, or if any Democrat wins the White House, that they immediately begin the process to abolish the electoral college so we're not held hostage from moving forward as a country for the next 30-40 years by a few states who are grossly overrepresented in our political system in comparison to the nation as a whole.

[quote]He came out of nowhere and he's the best of all the candidates running for President.

From Mother Jones:

"And while we’re on the topic, can I remind everyone that Pete Buttigieg didn’t just pop up out of nowhere? He’s been getting loads of press as an up-and-comer for at least the past five years (for example: “The most interesting mayor you’ve never heard of” in the Washington Post in 2014, “The first gay president?” in the New York Times in 2016). In 2017 he ran for DNC chair. He’s been talked about as a presidential candidate and representative of Millennials ever since.

In other words, it’s not a huge surprise that he’s gotten good press and raised a fair sum of money. He’s been courting the media for a long time, and he’s hardly an unknown in Democratic circles."

Oh, shit, r540.

Lawrence O'Donnell called out Bernie as a liar and hypocrite tonight concerning his promise to release his taxes "soon", a promise he made five weeks ago. He now claims he's just busy dotting the Is and crossing the Ts...on ten year old tax returns. Uh huh.

He's been a little busy.

I want him in me quite deeply.

I just received an email saying that Pete will make an announcement on April 14th.

R551 I just saw the notification on Twitter.

He has no gayvoice in Italian.

His Italian is placed too far back in the mouth & throat. It needs to be more forward.

R542 All Lives Matter

All Italian vowels matter

His Italian is terrible. I hope he's not boasting he's fluent in the 8 languages he claims to speak.

Bernie Sanders is getting so scared of our guy his Depends is gonna blow out.

Bernie has nothing to be afraid of. Pete's campaign is over. I read it on twitter today.

Uh, Pete is announcing his campaign next week.

[quote]I just received an email saying that Pete will make an announcement on April 14th.

He's going to announce that he's transitioning.

I thought he already announced he's running?

He hasn't formally announced it.

He shouldn't bother. We found the receipts from 2015 and we know how he really feels.

r561 is why we can't have nice things.

America is not voting for a gay guy. Get out of your bubbles.

r566, you cannot say that until it happens.

America did not vote sufficiently to elect a woman.

Pete's support is phenomenal.

You've all lost your minds. Where the hell do you live that you think the people we need to pick up to win the electoral college this time around are going to flip from Trump to a gay guy? No way in hell.

Who thought that people would vote for a peanut farmer?

Was there centuries old, religious-based hatred of peanut farmers? Lost your minds.

You’re a shitty judge of who the american electorate is

Oh, okay, R571. Whatever you need to tell yourself. What gay bubble to you live in?

BTW, did you happen to see who the Wisconsin electorate just voted in as their newest Supreme Court judge? Not only did he found a school that bans gay students or teachers but he said this...

[quote]“The idea that homosexual behavior is different than bestiality as a constitutional matter is unjustifiable.”

But, sure, these same people will vote for a gay guy for president. Uh huh.

Fuck off, I live with poor people, so go eat shit, asshole.

r573 eats the excrement of poor people.

Corn?

Way to have a sensible discussion. I always wonder what the likes of r573 and r574 try to accomplish when they contribute to discussions with that kind of verbiage. Seriously, what's the desired outcome from statements like the previous two?

R568, you're ignoring the Obama/Trump voters that made the difference in '16. If they could vote for a black candidate, why do you think voting for a gay one is such a stretch?

R568 is a bot

Some trivia: no gay person has ever been directly elected head of government and/or state of a country. But yes bitches, good ol U.S. of A will buck the trend and elect one with terminal gay face and "butt" in his name.

Current Prime Ministers of Ireland and Luxembourg are openly gay males.

Don't know much do you, R578

Prime Ministers are not directly elected.

The Prime Minister leads the party directly elected and you may as well say he was elected.

If Gay politicians are on the nose according to you, then the respective parties of those two countries would not have won their elections with a gay leader..

There's always a first time. Remember the old times when a presidential candidate couldn't come from New York, or when a catholic candidate was unthinkable, or a person of color was presumed unelectable? I am sure gays in Ireland and Luxembourg were considered unelectable, too - until they were elected.

I agree though that at this point in time putting a gay man on the ticket is a risk. But it may not be too risky anymore. The last twenty years really have shifted peoples perception of what a president should be or do.

[quote]Prime Ministers are not directly elected.

Neither are U.S. Presidents.

The problem isn't that Pete is gay, it's that the only elective job he has ever held is as the mayor of a little town. If he had held a statewide job at least,that would be different. He's coming off as a media creation. He should try to at least run for Congress first. Running for President at his age with his meagre experience is crazy.

Tell that to Trump.

The Presidency was never an entry level position before him.

I LOVE how Buttigieg appropriates Obama's word AUDACITY.

The same audacity that had got Obama elected as an Illinois Senator.

Well, he's never going to win if all the defeatists on this thread insist on giving up. I think we should give him all the support we can muster, unless you disagree with his politics.

One thing we know for sure is that Chicago would never elect a black lesbian mayor. Never, ever. Oh, wait . . .

R586, Chicago is a giant, liberal city. A Repug didn't even bother running. It is not indicative of the Midwest. Pete lost big when he tried to run state-wide in Indiana. What are you all not getting?

R597, everything is upside-down today, what don't you get?

Ana Brnabić, Serbian Prime Minister

This whole idea that Pete is similar to Obama will turn off black voters. We don't like when gays try to compare a black man to a gay man struggle. It is not the same in the sense that obama had to overcome his racial identity as a black man something he couldn't hide.

R192, Oooooh, that's SO clever! Who writes your material?

Someone gonna start thread 2?

An openly gay man is a credible candidate for President. Do you have to be an older person to know how amazing this is?

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