College Admissions Scam, Operation Varsity Blues: Part Six

I busted a gut laughing at that Miss OP.

R1 Thanks! But the credit is all to Reply r544 Part Five for that fantastic prayer and the hashtag #WhenCallsTheFBI

I wasn't sure what to put up for an intro photo. We used her cunt police sketch on the last thread. Any ideas, have at it!

#WhenCallsTheFBI

Anyone know how much OJ was raking in off her social media crap?

Mah Mayun is bitching at me to go get our Netflix on (sadly, at our age, not a euphemism) If that troll comes back around here to cunt at me for existing, posting, or whatever it is he's was so pissed off about, please tell him I said to fuck off and die, or your words of choice. Much appreciated. (And thanks for those who did it earlier too!)

"Troubled Hollywood stars Felicity Huffman and William H. Macy looked frail and haggard as they showed up for an unscheduled trip to a Los Angeles courthouse Friday.

The married actors wore frumpy jeans and sweaters — and Macy looked gaunt and almost sickly — as they arrived in connection with Huffman’s charges in a multimillion-dollar college admissions fixing scheme, according to TMZ.

“Desperate Housewives” star Huffman is charged with paying $15,000 in hopes of upping her daughter’s SAT score.

She had no court appearance scheduled in LA Friday but may have been there for additional paperwork for the $250,000 bail she posted Tuesday.

The two certainly weren’t dressed for standing in front of a judge.

The typically glamorous Huffman slummed it in canvas loafers, jeans and a loose black pullover. She completed her simultaneously “desperate” and “housewifey” look with glasses and a messy chignon.

“Shameless” star Macy channeled a vagrant in sneakers, rumpled jeans and a cardigan.

Huffman’s next court date is March 29 in Boston, where the federal conspiracy and bribery case is based.

Desperately trying to look like ordinary folk, lol. Not buying it.

Here are some photos to catch up:

Still partners in CRIME!

Felicity's sad day Tuesday:

R4:

“We’re estimating … she’s probably making a minimum of $30,000 for a post on Instagram. It could even be upwards of $50,000,” said Cartin, who has not seen any of Giannulli’s contracts."

The Fail's photo of Felicity after she went home.

Internet says OJ net worth $500k and just got that Sephora partnership in dec 18

Olivia Jade Reacts To College Admission Scandal After Leaving USC

What's with the low foreheads. Both daughters. Is that the Italian in them? I'm half Italian and I have a normal hairline.

What happened to that new face Huffman paid for? I’d demand my money back.

Repeat from previous thread.

That doesn't really sound like the Olivia Jade we know and love, does it?

[quote] “Olivia and Bella are both devastated by what’s happened. It's been mortifying and frightening for them," ET's source says. "They love their parents dearly and realize they only wanted the best for them but they are starting to realize how very serious the charges [against] their parents are at their expense.

R7 nailed it.

R21 Poor Bella's face. It's always the ones named "beautiful" that disappoint you most

Crisis Manager Howard Bragman weighs in. Lori is toast.

STARS!!!!!! They’re just like you and me!

And he brought up the fact this could go on for years R24. They should cut a deal fast so it is not going to play in the news forever. Considering there age I don't see them getting much work, especially because there are other actresses that can do the rolls they would have been offered and don't have the baggage.

Also, 7 figures (easily) for attorney's. Ouch.

William H looks 75. Felicity’s new face dropped a few inches.

That picture of the man on the bench (waiting for a bus or homeless maybe) looking at them speaks a 1,000 words.

Is there any info on whats happening with the other 50 parents?

Since they are not celebrities doubtful we will hear much R28.

Did you dictate that into Siri, R26?

*their age

Are you always a fucking ass R30?

Laughlin's daughter just lost her gig as YouTube spokesbimbo for Sephora Cosmetics. Didn't Lori realize her daughter already had an important career, and really didn't need to go to college after all? Not knowing how to properly apply eyeliner is like practically a world crisis!

The problem with that type of gig R33 is it can't last forever. Eventually someone younger and better looking is going to come along and bump her out of the spot.

Those pics of Felicity and William holding hands and looking like the homeless is definitely crisis management.

So Lori did all this just so she could have bragging rights to her friends about her girls at a "good school". But her friends have presumably met OJ and HerSidekick and know that they're as dumb as a box of rocks. So they would immediately know that Lori pulled some strings or wrote a check.

WHAT'S THE POINT, LORI??

Rick Caruso,SC Board of Trustees President and owner of the party yacht which OJ and the girls were vacationing on has a very interesting daughter, GG Caruso, who is a big time influencer and friend of OJ. GG is a much more impressive and professional influencer than OJ. I had no idea there was a whole new breed of college students, who are probably attending school for entirely different reasons than traditional students. If bored, check her out. I'm thinking GG and OJ were likely more than just friends - they were both successful before starting school and likely knew each other well. Small world, right? My question is, how was Rick Caruso involved? This does not look like a coincidence to me.

R37 Gigi is not more impressive. She has 32k followers, which is pitiful. It's all a numbers game

Methinks Lori is even dumber than her daughters.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R35 definitely . See how bad we look , we're suffering , please feel sorry for us . We're just two parents trying to do what's best for our kids like any parent would .

Between the video, the tweet, and the bowl I've just smoked I've been laughing to the point of snorting for almost a solid five minutes.

Ariel Edwards-Levy @aedwardslevy dear usc admissions

my son kratu is a track and field star

[quote]See how bad we look , we're suffering , please feel sorry for us . We're just two parents trying to do what's best for our kids like any parent would ...

...See, we’re just like normal everyday people. I mean, look at our clothes.

Are they wearing Mossimo?

People are throwing these girls to the wolves. People need to quit acting like they killed someone. Point your outrage at the dysfunctional college system and work to improve it.

These actors are being used as a scapegoat from the people masterminded all of this.

FOH r45!

We’ve been through this.

After looking at what I will be paying in taxes this year I want to know if the fake charities where the bribes were funnelled has also been a massive tax scam.

Trump University will gladly accept these gifted children of America's smartest, most gifted, riche, and talented parents.*

🐝 🐝 🐝 BEE BEST! 🐝 🐝 🐝

Mr Lori a Trump supportive

Lori is an insanely hot woman, though. So there's that at least.

Now that the dust has settled a little bit I can see things a little bit more clearly. Felicity will probably get probation since no one was hurt in her case. Lori and her hubby have more problems and I think the husband will do time and Lori will get probation. The wild card is the IRS in these cases. Maybe I missed it, but was there any mention of falsified tax returns? Career wise, who the hell knows. I didn't think Mel Gibson could come back, but he did. Martha Stewart came back, but I don't know if she is as popular as she was before. A lot of people thought it was overkill on her charges and sentencing.

These criminal are obnoxious and judges hate obnoxious criminals!

Meant

R28 I heard some coaches and an athletic director at were fired and one of the parents was fired from the hedge fund he founded. These are off the top of my head, I’m sure there are others that haven’t been publicized.

Maybe Lori and husband will do back to back sentences like those Jersey Housewives people.

Why does Mr. Lori have those horizontal lines above his brows? Seen in r50 post.

He’s marking out a chunk of forehead to donate to his daughter.

Felicity Huffman should thank the court artist in R15. Compare his rendering with the actual photos from that day (see R10), he is being very flattering. He doesn't even get her glasses right.

R59 the only person Felicity is thanking is OJ. She's so endlessly obnoxious she takes most of the heat

Lori should get MS like Selma Blair.

Follow up on the NYU comments

I was a student at tisch in the mid 90’s..The main competition with Tisch is USC and Yale Drama. Despite previous comments Tisch is VERY selective. NYU undergrad (CAS especially) is not. Stern is.

Grad school at NYU is selective

I do believe, as a alumni that if anything Tisch would be a hotbed for this scandalous behavior.

The Athletic Department (we are called the NYU Violets ...of all things) most certainly would not

[quote]Felicity Huffman should thank the court artist in [R15]. Compare his rendering with the actual photos from that day (see [R10]), he is being very flattering. He doesn't even get her glasses right.

Bitch bribed that court artist too.

Mossimo's cheeks in r50 look like a job for Dr. Pimple Popper.

I imagine the court artist is a Desperate Housewives fan, but HATES Fuller House.

We're already at P6; I've read EVERY post. For those of you late to the game, a summation of DL fave, Miss OJade

I read an interview with the sketch artist R65. She said she drew them as she saw them. Lori came off arrogant and that is what the sketch showed. Felicity looked more "genuine." The sketch artist was sitting next to William H. Macy. He asked to see the sketch and said it was nice or something like that. They had a cordial conversation between one another. She said she wished they had met under different circumstances.

Since Felicity has to go to Boston, will the Feds pay for her transportation?

Priceless

The courtroom is a stage, and Felicity is right at home playing to the spectators, including the artist.

Interesting article, R67. They show her other sketches. including one of Huffman sitting with what it calls "the other defendants". But it's not clear if these are defendants for the college scandal case or just other defendants who happen to be in court that day. Anyone know?

Poor Lori was dumped by the Hallmark Channel.

She could always audition to play herself in the Lifetime Movie adaptation of "Poor Little Bitch Girls."

Are those her daughters in front of her at 71? The other defendants are pretty white girls and a hipster, not the demo you typically see in an LA court waiting their turn.

We need a “boo” for this thread to offset the fug men (Macy, Mossimo, Caruso.) Rob the Seximo was such a palate cleanser in the Jussie threads.

John Stamos? Jesse Metcalfe? Daniel Lissing?

Hearties' heartthrob reporting for "boo" duty.

Boo 1: Eh.

Boo 2: is that “Blue Steel?”

Felicity played a law student in that Von Bulow movie where G was comatose most of the time (her best performance imo)

I wonder if she did much research. Could come in handy.

I have a #heartie on for Daniel Lissing!

I was only made aware last year that John Stamos had a nose job years ago.

It is KILLING Felicity that she has now been lumped eternally with an actress like Lori. That is enough punishment for the rest of anyone's life. In all of this, I bet that's what galls Felicity most.

I wonder how much Bette Midler paid to get her cow/daughter into Yale, twice!

“Bill! I am an Academy Award nominee, goddammit! How can they lump me in with... HER from some BASIC CABLE nonsense?!?!!! Bill!!!”

Maybe Felicity will call her "Reversal of Fortune" screen mentor Dershowitz to represent her in Boston.

Didn’t Bette’s daughter study Japanese of something random.

R80 I’d go with Lissing, because he’s “sometimes hot” and needs just the right styling and angle to avoid looking like a distressed lemur. That coif! Those brows! The biker jacket! He’s working at it hard like the gals do. He’s vulnerable... perfect #heartie material.

LMAO R69! That'll teach 'em!

[quote] Since Felicity has to go to Boston, will the Feds pay for her transportation?

I'm sure they'd be happy to transport her if she wants to surrender herself to their custody. Those US Marshal flights are not direct - travel can take up to a week with numerous stops along the way.

In other words: NO

Aw, rats! I enjoyed Lori's "Garage Sale Mysteries" on Hallmark, no lie. Kind of a Poor Woman's "Lovejoy."

Felicity's present was foretold in her past, when she played a suburban housewife Belle de Jour. Lennie and Rey brought her down!

If this has been mentioned before, forgive me,. I am only checking in just now. Anyone having trouble being able to search or not seeing any WW notifications, you are not alone, so don't feel your WW post is unworthy, there is just a glitch. I think Muriel is doing some work one the site. See thread below.

Now that her career is over, a retrospective in her own words

R67 That is delicious. Thanks! Hah!

Macy looks like a frightened, defeated man whose been pussy-😸-whipped since the moment of his birth.

R74 YES! I love the idea of a boo mascot like seximo / eskiboo Rob on the Jussie threads. They could of course rotate, too. No rules, it's about fun.

Sorry to learn that the WWs are not working right now as I posted above but I'm still hitting the button for you clever bitches.

Some woman is suing Felicity and Lori for $500 billion dollars for displacing her son from a University slot. I wonder if more people will get the idea and start suing not only universities but also some of the parents.

Desperate lawsuits.

Not just some woman, a Tiger mom called Mrs Toy. Her only son got a 4.2 GPA and didn’t get in.

The Tiger Mom suing for 500 billion is going to fuck up some legit lawsuits in my opinion. I guess go big or go home, (go home) but that is just going to make people/potential jurors/etc. roll their eyes, and fuck it up for everyone else.

I feel bad for her son. He knows mom thinks his future is ruined and his school is not good enough.

I wish her 4.2 GPA son could have advised his mother about the ridiculousness of suing for $500 billion. It would have been ridiculous to sue for even $500 million.

But they literally destroyed her son's life.

"NYU undergrad (CAS especially) is not."

Maybe in your day it wasn't but these days the acceptance rate is low

R103, Back in “my day” (mid 90’s) CAS was always looked at as the easiest school within NYU to get into. The more competitive undergrad schools within the university were always Tisch, Stern and Gallatin. Back in “my day” NYU was also consistently ranked in the top 25 national universities nationwide - now, it’s lost that -

Yes... this year it happens to be ranked 30, Which is an improvement from the past few years, but it’s still lost that top 25 prestige it use to have in “my day”

Maybe it’s a result of all those rich kids parents purchasing their admissions...

We’ll see as more of this scandal unfolds

R94 totally agree. looks wiped out as does Mr Lori. Both pussy-whipped as hell. Both have 2 daughters. Way too much household estrogen.

These high-profile, moneyed grifters are amateurs.

They should have "flown under the radar" and put their kids in low-profile state schools. No questions. Life goes on - very easily.

But NOOOOOOOOOOO! My parents' high-profile egos would not have allowed their doing so.

Im ready for more names to be named in the lawsuit.

"NYU was also consistently ranked in the top 25 national universities nationwide - now, it’s lost that -"

Look at the acceptance rate, not the ranking. The acceptance rate at NYU is lower than it has ever been.

OJ and (not) Bella wanted to go to ASU but that wasn’t good enuf for the parental units. Now Meghan McCain is mad as hell at mr. Lori for dissing ASU

Tiger Mom is getting dragged on Twitter.

She has her own twitter, by the way, and has asked what people think about the lawsuit. Very few people have replied. A couple of reporters asked her how she came up with that figure.

I think the prestige of the school was a huge factor in their decision to cheat, but also the contacts their kids make with other rich kids. For instance, Miss OJ yachting with a billionaires kid on his yacht - that’s also why they go to such lengths to get in.

Varsity Boo Hoos

Here’s a question... besides the film school (maybe I’m biased as I’m also the NYU poster/alumni) how great is USC? Sure, their film school is highly regarded - but what else do they have that is considered somewhat top tier? Business?

For anyone wanting to attend a top school in California I would think Stanford, Berkeley or even UCLA would be considered much better.

I would rather spend 500k to get into Stanford or Berkeley..

I understand the Yale bribery - USC seems like a waste of a half million..

R6 Macy looks like Elmer Fudd. Their lives are ruined over cheating that cost FIFTEEN GRAND.

I'd once worked with a recent UCLA grad, who'd bragged she was admitted because of her mother's helping her to claim she was 1/16 Native American.

Fuck you, both -

[quote]What's with the low foreheads. Both daughters. Is that the Italian in them?

No. It’s the retard/small brain in them.

R18 She looks like a Moon Pie.

I think USC's engineering programs are considered good ones but obviously the Loughlin girls weren't in that division. What were their majors? (communications I'd guess.)

[quote]What were their majors? (communications I'd guess.)

Social Media Cunting, and Yacht Whoring.

oh please, USC is a party school, it is not good for Biz major.

Gallatin is easy to get into. It's basically study at your own pace. Christy Turlington went there, Dakota Fanning is there now.

I agree that NYU's CAS is easy get into. And they charge the same amount as Harvard. total rip off. I know so many people who are not doing much, one of them driving uber/lyft, another doing mid level hospitality jobs. It was not worth it for them. Seriously save your money for grad school, it's more important to go to a good grad school.

OP, R5 Despite the news from NZ and all of the other misery in the world, you just really made me laugh out loud. Thank you.

"Mah Mayun is bitching at me to go get our Netflix on (sadly, at our age, not a euphemism)"

Well, the scammer pushed USC coz all his cohorts are there. so many crooked coaches there on the take.

[quote]NYU undergrad (CAS especially) is not

I read this as “NYU undergrads are especially hot”

Lori's daughters have the Theresa Guidici Neanderthal genes.

I’m still back on thread 5, catching up, but wanted to post that I was at a funeral in the middle of the Midwest and this story came up as conversation at the lunch table and the ladies with kids in school were on fire. Enraged. No sympathy, and scrolling twitter I don’t see much (maybe 5%) support for LL/FH and the other scammers.

Obviously Stanford and Berkeley are better, they are top-tier and regarded as highly as Ivy schools. UCLA is closing in on that rep tho, particularly in the medical and film departments. USC is slightly below, but considered an easier school with more parties and richer kids. All four have enormous pots of money to spend on sports, research labs, and excellent teachers.

oh the parents spent so much money to scam and the kid didn't even end up going to Stanford! I wonder where the kid went!

UCLA=U See Lots of Asians

R121 Truly touched you had a wee break from the horrors.

I shaved Mr. OP's corns, and we re-watched "I, Tonya". It was old coot cozy.

Would participants in these threads kindly state your sex, age, weight, and location, because I'm pretty sure you're a bunch of obsessive fat flyover Frauen.

I work on a college campus, and no one is talking about it.

Would you still be interested if it didn't involve a couple of menopausal actresses?

R129 Well, I was thinking YOU could take over Lori's Hallmark movies. You just need an adorable Golden Retriever puppy, a turtleneck sweater, and storyline about unrequited love set at Christmas time... in a cabin.

[quote]I work on a college campus,

can you imagine?

R130 In my experience, people on campus tend not to speak to or around janitorial staff, so that likely explains why you haven't heard anything.

I'll take your "clever" response to mean I'm right, fatass female @ r133 .

Since she's ignoring me, will one of you other breedsows let her know?

TIA

I think the Isabella daughter is better looking than Olivia Jade.

Mossimo's fillers and nose job are BAAAAAD. The nose is that late 80s Park Ave Jewess favorite and is entirely feminizing. Did he pick it out of an old catalogue? The OJ daughter does seem like a dumb materialistic whore. Regardless of where they tried to send her, it does seem ANY college for her would be a huge waste of time. Why did they bother?

Teri Hatcher's daughter goes to Brown like all celebrity children do. Why Felicity didn't send hers there is a mystery.

My daughter's SAT scores are real, and they are fantastic.

I nominate #whencallstheFBI as hashtag of the year.

Still loving When Calls The Bribe.

I imagine Felicity is a bit miffed that she's in this mess with 15,000 while Lori spent half a million. Makes her look cheap. On the other hand Felicity's children are smart Saints compared to Lori's daughter Olivia Jade so of course Lori had to spend more on that fuck-up.

They are criminals. They taught their children how to bribe, lie to the FBI, create fake charities and defraud the IRS. Worst still, the Universities are also involved with creating a new generation of sociopaths, especially the administrators, senior staff and the Board of Trustees.

Also, the charter private schools are lying too. They are producing idiots and criminals. Public Schools are better.

Meanwhile, the kids who go to public school and go to college based on their desire to learn are saddled with Student Loan Debt.

The system is rigged against us.

It's tragic that people commit crimes for the scam that is the US education system. I am starting to think that people who homeschool their children aren't just crazy loons, but fed up how the elite and the government fucked education up to create easy prey for snake oil salesmen, pawns and cannon fodder.

The real mystery and tea here is who was the whistle blower that led to this sting, and why? who pissed off who? This is a practice that has been going on for DECADES. As long as the rich are rich, they will use their money as a fast pass. You're not going to tell me idiot George Bush jr. got into yale and Harvard on his own merits.

^ It's one thing to use legacy status to your child's advantage; it's another to pay people to take your kid's SATs.

Um, r130? Perhaps you missed the major televised news conference held by the FBI last Tuesday?

As for your observation that this huge RICO investigation isn't being discussed on your campus, one hesitates to inquire as to what is. Spring Break Twerking contests and the Instagramming thereof?

Whoever got to Emerson Tenney's Google front page gets an A+

Born: November 10, 1997 (age 21 years), United States of America

Education: De Anza College Community Education

"Don’t just go through life, grow through life. What are you creating for yourself today?"

The immortal words SuperMother-

Felicity Huffman

Fuller House has dropped Lori.

Uncle Jesse’s available!

[quote] Fuller House has dropped Lori.

I wouldn't be surprised if Caitlynn Jenner is campaigning hard to take over the role (imagine John Stamos' face *LOL*).

Sorry, Caitlyn Jenner.

R144, Do NOT conflate legit with crime, as too many TV Talking Heads are doing.

Legacy admissions are because alumni loyalty is important to colleges and universities. Often they become donors, sports season pass holders, visitors, and recruiters themselves, through generations.

Even if the parent isn't an alumnus/a, any parent donating a building, say, or a library wing, or to the University's General Fund, is going to have their applicant child more than seriously considered for admission.

Note that in the above examples, the end results benefit not just the family but also the college and student body. Moreover, I would wager that the would-be Freshmen in the majority of these cases meet the Admission requirements (at least enough to begin in General Studies).

Bribery of coaches using fake (even Photoshopped!) athletic credentials; SAT cheating (paying off proctors; altering answers and scores; falsely claiming the need for special test-taking arrangements); bribery of Admissions Directors: All underhanded and felonious. All to the benefit of law-breakers.

Because the parents wanted a "sure thing." Simply donating to a college fund in an above-board public manner couldn't secure that guarantee. Only criminal behavior could.

Thanks to Lori I now know that not only does it take a lot of money to look this cheap but that it also takes a lot of money to get a useless twat into a non-elite college.

....

The child of donors is still taking a place away from someone more academically gifted, R152. It's not egalitarian, and that isn't okay in 2019.

Have any of the kids flunked out of school or are their grades being doctored by their sponsors?

To be honest I don't believe any of these schools are non-profit when wealthy donors are more important to them than their students who come from less privileged backrounds. Someone is making a profit and nobody is doing anything about it.

[quote]It's not egalitarian, and that isn't okay in 2019.

Who said college admissions are egalitarian? Or that they even should be?

Someone is going to lose out on admission. It’s life, not everyone can be accepted. The colleges have their methods for which students they accept. Is it fair? Maybe, maybe not, but that’s life.

To be sure, what these parents are accused of doing is not what I’m talking about, this is different.

Macy and Felicity with their greasy hair and sloppy clothes look disgusting. All that money and you cannot shampoo, comb your hair and put on something decent to go to the Courthouse? They give liberals a bad name, cheating, being slovenly and so forth. I don't care if it is just a meeting. Do they think looking dirty puts them down with the people? Or makes them seem contrite? They are gross.

And, are those photos forced perspective or are they just tiny as shit? Tiny dirty old grifters?

A pity all this energy couldn't have been directed to reading to their kids, encouraging them to go to the library, discussing the news at the dinner table, reviewing their kids' homework, taking them to museums and plays, and doing all the other things parents do to stimulate intellectual curiosity. It's no coincidence that the Macy girls are models and the Gianulli girls are influencers. If you spend all your time emphasizing how your kids look and neglect their intellectual development, this is what you get. On the other hand, your male children will probably be very popular on DL

NYU was not considered a top 25 school in the mid 1990s. Nice try though, poster upthread.

[quote]To be sure, what these parents are accused of doing is not what I’m talking about, this is different.

Morally, it really isn't. Buying your way in is buying your way in.

As for who said college admissions should be egalitarian - it goes against the very concept of colleges and higher education to grant admission based on anything else. Would it also be okay for colleges to give the rich kids higher grades for the sole purpose of getting daddy to donate more money? Same thing.

For rich white kids on the west coast, the order of preference is USC > Santa Barbara > ASU >>>>>>> Chico

Has NYU ever been considered a top school?

Why do people keep posting the same posts over and over. How many times are we going to see r154? What’s the point in the repeated posts.

It’s annoying af. If you’ve run out of things to say then move on.

Sued for $500 bill (with a B)

R141 - works for a teachers union.

R159 I called in the other thread that Felicity or Lori would try to pull the now weakened "Manafort-in-a-wheelchair" thing in a future court appearance for the sympathy vote. They are not going to get sympathy if they show up looking like rich Hollywood royalty. This isn't a Desparate Housewives photoshoot. Expect at least the Macy-Huffmans to stop dying their hair, look progressively haggard, wear reduced or no makeup, complain of health complications, and maybe eventually show up to court in a wheelchair.

The Macy-Huffmans are potentially losing it all over 15k, whereas Lori Loughlin and Mr. Lori are arguably way more culpable with their $1M spent on the ongoing scheme. I would look haggard too.

R138 is cool!

I’m sure when the daughters allegedly said they wanted to go to ASU, Lori sputtered, “But the heat... and the ragged clothing!”

I took classes at De Anza and it is full of rich kids still getting their feet under themselves.

The instructors there are top notch -- in another age, most would be on tenure tracks at the posh universities, but it is no longer the 60s. Their loss is De Anza administrators' gain, sadly

R58, I am CHOKING with laughter.

(ABC7) Lynn Swann, hired by the USC Trojans three years ago to run an athletic department all too familiar with scandal, says he won't resign in the face of more of it.

Swann, speaking to the Los Angeles Times about the college admissions bribery case in which a senior associate athletic director, water polo coach and former soccer coach were indicted and later fired by the school, said they were veteran athletics officials who "had seen bad things done and knew better."

"I think everybody was blindsided by this," Swann said in the interview with the Times. "The fact that it was a senior member of the staff and also our men's and women's head water polo coach. ... These are people that have been here a long time and people who had been here during difficult times and had seen bad things done and knew better. Everyone was completely shocked, caught off guard and taken by surprise."

Swann, 67, a Pro Football Hall of Famer and former Trojans receiver, was hired by USC in April 2016 to succeed retiring athletic director Pat Haden.

Swann said that in the future, one person will not have as much responsibility as senior administrators such as the fired Donna Heinel had.

"We will work with the university to implement the best system," Swann said. "We will work with the administration, admissions, sports administrators, recruiters and scouts so there are more eyeballs on this. Moving forward when a list of names is being put forward, the coach sees it, the recruiter sees it, the administrator sees it and others see it so we know these are real student-athletes that we're trying to get.

"Whether they're a preferred walk-on in football or someone else, we need to know these are real student-athletes. One of the first things I did after I read through the affidavit was I called Katharine Harrington, the vice president of admissions and planning at USC, and I apologized to her. The admissions department had no clue this was happening. They had no idea, and why would they?"

Swann was among more than 200 candidates considered for the position before his hire. He had no experience in high-level collegiate athletic administration but was the third consecutive former USC football player to take the post.

“Swann was among more than 200 candidates considered for the position before his hire. He had no experience in high-level collegiate athletic administration but was the third consecutive former USC football player to take the post.”

Sigh.

R174 This is Trump's America now. We love unqualified candidates with name recognition. Sigh indeed!

Lynn Swann - Deplorable.

For R154. In case you haven’t heard this before, which I doubt, fuck off,

R166 at it again with the repeated threads.

How many times are we going to see that article?

10? 20?

And what’s with the reminders upthread from previous threads? That’s why they are threads so people can go back and read them.

75% of posts in here are reposts or recycled info. Enough!

Oh dear god not that picture AGAIN @r177.

I can’t take these repeated images and posts. It’s like brainwashing or something.

Once is enough!

R178, your mom called you.

Breakfast is ready. Come up from the basement

This thread is a disgrace.

For R178:

[quote]For anyone wanting to attend a top school in California I would think Stanford, Berkeley or even UCLA would be considered much better.

USC is like the Ivies in that a lot of kids of the wealthy go there. It is a great networking school. Academically, it’s certainly inferior to Berkeley, UCLA, UCSB, UCSF and UCSD. That is why USC outranks UCLA on the US News and World Report domestic college rankings, which includes lots of soft “quality of life” and amenities criteria. USC ranks low, surprisingly so, and far below public universities like UCLA, Michigan and Berkeley on global university rankings like QS and ARWU, and (funnily) USNWR’s own global university rankings. These look at factors like quality of faculty, research citations, grants, etc.

Does the mother sue the university, the trickster who ran the scam, or just Laughlin and Huffman? I'd think the universities would prefer to settle as quick as possible out of court. The trickster has probably hidden his money by now, and I don't think either Huffman or Laughlin can even afford to give the mother a ticket for an L.A. Universal Studio tour as settlement.

R166, see thread r165 and then scroll up a bit. We already know.

Remember how Republicans attacked 'liberals' because they assumed Lori Loughlin and her husband Mossimo Giannulli, two individuals allegedly involved in the #CollegeCheatingScandal were "liberals?"

Turns out Giannulli is a rabid Trump supporter!

Another EPIC fail by the right!

Lori Loughlin supported Hillary, R186.

[quote]Morally, it really isn't. Buying your way in is buying your way in.

You and I weren’t discussing buying your way in. We were talking about who gets in.

[quote]As for who said college admissions should be egalitarian - it goes against the very concept of colleges and higher education to grant admission based on anything else. Would it also be okay for colleges to give the rich kids higher grades for the sole purpose of getting daddy to donate more money? Same thing.

So then who doesn’t get in? Somebody has to not get accepted. By definition that’s not egalitarian. That’s what I’m referring to. You, me and 8 other DLers have virtually the same specs yet there are only 5 openings. Five of us are going to be disappointed and I don’t care who gets picked as long as it wasn’t due to bribery or some other nefarious means. Either way you slice it that’s not egalitarian.

I sure bet that the Republicans scream bloody murder about these darn Liberals thinking they are above the law and Democratic polititians shouldn't even think to accept donations from these crooked people while the Republicans have no shame and don't give back the donations of convicted criminals and are more than happy to accept donations from shady people.

No need for the universities to settle since it was a few bad apples that caused and benefited from this. $500 billion is a laugh. The kid would be lucky is he earned $5 million in his lifetime. The sue happy people are the lowest of the low.

R187 So husband and wife disagreed? If that' true, I would have to hand it to Lori. Not easy - especially if he was rabid. That was posted by Krassenstein. He usually gets things right.

Actually, the RICO laws allow for third parties to sue.

It was most likely the repug husband’s fault that this happened. I assume he pushed Lori to take the hypocritical route and cut corners as republicans always do.

We know t don’t respect their wives opinion and offer abuse and gaslight them. She is like a typical wife a to republican... they get worn down after years of abuse and he got his way by forcing her pay the bribe against her better judgment.

I’m calling it now.

I think they are just rich assholes who think they can do anything they want because they have money. This time they were caught, and by the FBI.

Yes, r192, if they were wronged. Think of a victim of a mafia hit whose murderer was convicted of RICO.

While these particular people will have a hard time proving they, specifically, were damaged by the schools’ decisions, 500 billion dollars is a little extreme and outrageous. It may shock the conscience of the court so much that it’ll get dismissed with costs.

Unlike that hammy Hallmark heifer Lori, Felicity is an Emmy and Golden Globe winning actress, who knows how to put on a good performance. She and Macy are sensible enough to pretend to look disheveled and glum and contrite as to invoke more mercy and pity. Lori, on the other hand, can keep digging herself deeper into a hole with her defiant stance and attitude.

[quote] that hammy Hallmark heifer Lori

Oh, I LOVE love love this!!

They are probably going after the endowment. Rico I think can be seizing of assets of the parties that were conducting the Crimes.

The husband should take the blame publicity since he was no doubt the brains of the operation. He owes her that much.

But in true republican fashion, he will probably hang her out to dry while he snakes by. Typical.

cringe @R197

I am really pissed that none of the Presidential candidates are talking about this issue.

Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders are all about reducing the costs of higher education... yet they have nothing to say about the tremendous corruption that’s been exposed throughout the entire world of academia.

What’s Beto have to say about it? Kamala?? Just silence...

But the mother does have a case in the sense that the universities failed, or refused, to check (aka turned a blind eye) if the applications of the accepted students were correct and truthful (like in cases where students were accepted based on sport scolarship requirements). Good faith doesn't apply when you can prove at least one case where universities refused to act, because the student in question was the kid of a high profile donor.

What? Warren and Sanders have been talking about it. The system is rigged against us. They are running on this.

R198, what’s this about Rico’s endowment?

[r204] russian bot?

The mother may have a case, we don’t know the legalities of what needs to be proven etc. But 500 BILLION dollars?!

I asked this elsewhere. How much do these broads get paid for the Hallmark dreck. $50,000 per film? $100k? How can that even cover the upkeep and taxes on a $35 million Bel Air home.

R199, do you think John Q would then believe she’s completely ignorant of all of this? They’d see right through it.

[quote] How can that even cover the upkeep and taxes on a $35 million Bel Air home.

They don’t live in that Bel Air home. They bought it for significantly less, renovated it, and are trying to flip it.

I think most of their income comes from real estate investments.

This may be why Warren hasn't commented.

As a Harvard professor, Warren is a beneficiary of the corrupt, rigged system. She’s a big phony.

Lori "supporting" Hillary just shows you how phony all these Hollywood elites are. I'm sure her politics are more in line with her husbands, but her brand could not openly supporting pussy grabber Trump. All these rich assholes may be socially liberal, but they vote in their fiscally conservative interests. I don't know why so many are impressed just because a celebrity claims to support a candidate, they are very likely lying if their tax savings depends on voting for the conservative candidate.

People have to accept that people like Lori maintain a public image that doesn't necessarily match with their real persona. Things like supporting Hillary Clinton is something her manager comes up with to keep her "on brand". Same with all the pro-Christian talk in her interviews. It's all about pandering to her fanbase from these, now former, Hallmark projects.

Who was hotter, Lori or Kelly Preston?

Everyone keeps saying Hillary supporter Lori Loughlin but no one posts proof. If she is, she is but I've seen nothing concrete (unlike Felicity who has a mountain of evidence)

[quote]The real mystery and tea here is who was the whistle blower that led to this sting, and why? who pissed off who?

R144, the whistleblower, Morrie Tobin, was under investigation in a completely unrelated securities fraud case. He tipped off the FBI in exchange for leniency in that case.

So Morrie Tobin better be in witness protection. Pissing off this many rich people?

Lori does have a rather darling look, a rare old-fashioned, wholesome girl-next-door thing.

"Who was hotter, Lori or Kelly Preston?"

Kelly Preston was pretty damn hot. Sheesh, what a waste....

R161 it absolutely was.

Lori seems totally fucked. How could she ever recover from this?

L.A. Times: Fallout from college admissions scandal worsening for accused parents, institutions

R58. DYING! Why didn't Juicy Joe do that for Teresa? Oh well, he's getting deported anyway and she has a new piece lined up. Sorry, back on topic.

r168 I think your observation is dead on. They are pulling the mungy look for sympathy.

R181 It would be good for you to find a less disgraceful thread to play in. We wouldn't want you sullied by us disgraceful types. We have cooties.

r210 Warren DID comment, and managed to dig herself in even deeper by doing so. Google it or have a look on one of the previous threads.

Why would anyone cheat just to get into subpar USC? It's not that hard to get into.

The thing is Olivia Jade didn't want to college therefore made it extra hard to be accepted anywhere. That's when her parents, who couldn't accept their daugher's decision, became desperate.

I am wondering if Olivia would have made a bigger effort if she had gotten those 500 grand from her parents?

R224 listen to OJade speak

R224 unless you are deliberately trolling, that question has been asked and answered at least 20 times in each thread. Get some new material or go back and read up.

USC???

Most of her Fuller House cast mates have disabled their Instagram comments section.

Fuller House.

I love that they named a show after me.

I do wonder how terribly lame way they'll write out "Aunt Becky"

She's not anywhere close to a major character so the show will be fine, but will they have her "on assignment in Tokyo", "visiting Michelle", "ran off with the circus"

"On assignment in Canada" would be funnier.

#hearties

Lol R232

Maybe they'll start the sad begging of the Olsen twins to appear again. Nothing was more pathetic than John Stamos admitting they called Elizabeth's agents. "Yeah, let me take time away from my Marvel paychecks to pay my sisters' cast off"

hey so don't you think in exchange for lighter sentence Lori or Felicity might spill on some "crimes" they know in hollywood etc? They are so many secrets in the industry.

Trump University was a horrible fraud. Made all kinds of money from working people trying to get ahead. But America shrugged!

Announcement coming from the King of the #Hearties

R234 STILL trying to bring up pizza gate, the Illuminati, the Deep State, etc.

Fuck off Cassidy

r237 Do you know what that Brian Bird guy means by "no spoons out for this one"?

Anyone?

I Googled it and I think it has to do with "stirring the pot" with a big spoon.

From some lunatic #Heartie blog:

[Quote]I think Florence should have to carry a wooden spoon when she is walking around town. She is the resident gossiper and pot stirrer and everyone knows it.

"Lori & Mossimo's INSANELY LAVISH Life!"

God, I'll have to come around to Lori if she gets that stupid show cancelled. Those Hearties make my head hurt with their idiocy.

R243 sadly Hallmark has promised the Hearties the show will live on

The University of California, Berkeley has joined the growing list of universities tied to the sweeping college admissions scandal — as a former Canadian football player allegedly paid someone to take the SATs for his sons, one of whom was on the school’s rowing team.

David Sidoo, who played for the University of British Columbia Thunderbirds and later the Canadian Football League, was busted March 8 on charges related to the scam, ABC affiliate KGO-TV reported.

Sidoo allegedly paid someone $200,000 to take the SAT for his sons in 2011 and 2012, according to court documents obtained by the station.

While Sidoo’s older son enrolled at Chapman University in Orange County, his younger son, Jordan, attended UC Berkeley, according to the report.

Jordan Sidoo is listed on the roster for the 2015 rowing team at the school. His Linkedin page indicates that he graduated from the university last year, studied history and was on the varsity rowing team from 2014 to 2016.

He is currently pursuing his MBA at Southern New Hampshire University, which offers online degrees, according to the page.

Sidoo is among 33 parents who have been charged with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud in the massive scam that has impacted admissions at Stanford, Yale, Georgetown, Wake Forest and the University of Texas.

In a statement issued to the station, University of California president Janet Napolitano said she was “deeply troubled and disappointed” to learn that the widespread scam had reached his university.

“The allegations associated with UC, if proven true, are a disservice to the hardworking and accomplished students and alumni who have earned their place at the university and continue to make us proud,” Napolitano said.

“Illegal, inappropriate and unethical means to gain admission, at the expense of deserving applicants, is antithetical to every aspect of our mission and values,” she added. “As a public institution — one of the most highly regarded in the world — we are dedicated to ensuring a level playing field for every applicant.” –– ADVERTISEMENT ––

Napolitano said the school would “take swift and appropriate disciplinary actions to address misconduct once we have all the facts.”

Damn, I wonder if they will take his degree away...

Nothing new. Show being retooled. No news on the recast

The irony of someone named Sidoo (as in Sea-Doo personal watercraft) being on the rowing team was lost on everyone? Everyone?

Y’all are slipping.

I don’t mind that the show is still on. I’ve never seen it nor heard of it, but at least she’ll be the only one to lose her job. At least this way she doesn’t take the rest of the cast and crew down with her.

Thanks r241 I appreciate it! How barfworthy.

R245 Chapman has a freshman admissions rate of like 60%. How dumb is this kid?

It's produced by Michael Landon Jr and it makes Little House look like the Sopranos. Papa must be rolling in his grave BARF R249

Online MBA, what’s the bets he has someone else doing all his coursework.

Does anyone here work in HR? If so, do you laugh when you see internet schools on resumes?

[quote]Online MBA, what’s the bets he has someone else doing all his coursework.

I’m sorry but that cannot happen. We have very hi-tech safeguards in place to prevent such a thing. As long as you don’t give your logon information to anyone (say, a professor or something) our safeguards will work.

Lori should get a baby’s because most people had never heard of this show until this scandal.

I like wholesome shows every once in a while. It’s a break from all the violence and nastiness on tv.

I’ll have to check it out.

I’ve taken online courses and I was able to download the video lectures, download the pdf notes and the assignments involved coding apps and writing essays then submitting them via a portal. I could have let someone else do my assignments if I wanted to. I know some athletes who paid other kids to go to their lectures in brick and mortar college and take notes and do the assignments. Easy to do when the class is 300 kids in an auditorium. I would put nothing past those guys if they let someone else go their SATs.

Palo Alto Couple Paid $25K To Have Proctor Take Their Son's SAT For Him

Will When Calls the Heart be canceled after Lori Loughlin firing?

R259....um, no. As has been made clear by the network like 50 times

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Eh, Varsity Blues would have been much better if someone had gayfucked Dawson

In her defense, she has to keep up with all the news on this. Can’t do that with all the channels out there unless you have at least half a dozen televisions.

David Sidoo in R245's link, with his pal, Trudeau.

R261 She's probably paying her dealer with those as "gifts" since all of her expenditures are likely being closely scrutinized.

[Quote]Cameron doesn't feel the least bit sorry for Felicity ... he says powerful people live in a bubble and are used to getting their way, so this is just karma.

Who is Cameron?

LOL have you seen Lori and Massimo's mansion in Bel Air? There is (or was) a huge USC flag in the backyard along with an American flag. So fucking ridiculous. Flying a flag of a school to show off or something when they know they cheated LMAO.???

The hell is wrong with these creeps.

LMAO R252

Julia Roberts and Rita Wilson have spoken about about this. I liked Rita's comment, it is "so unethical and disturbing." Julia really did nail it with saying it is like telling your kids "I don’t have enough faith in you," I can only imagine what people are saying privately. This is a pretty good indicator their careers are toast.

Can I point out the wonderfully acid way the Daily Mail described them?

The typically glamorous Huffman slummed it in canvas loafers, jeans and a loose black pullover. She completed her simultaneously “desperate” and “housewifey” look with glasses and a messy chignon.

“Shameless” star Macy channeled a vagrant in sneakers, rumpled jeans and a cardigan.

Messy chignon! Channeling a vagrant! I love that.

^^Delicious.

r270 Deliciously bitchy for sure!

Where will Felicity's mommy blog followers go now? Who can give them advice to get through their dreary lives as well as Lynette Scavo?????

R269 They shouldn't talk. I don't trust Julia Roberts or Rita Wilson to not be trying underhanded things to give their kids advantages in life.

I'm going to grow my hair out so I can sport a messy chignon.

For r275

How come Huffman and Macy looked like that coming to court? An article said that Loughlin knew about the warrant and turned herself in (and therefore was prepared to show up in court). However, Huffman also walked into court a free woman (out on bail I suppose), she did not get brought up to court in custody. Was she pressed for time?

Huffman actually looks better to me with less makeup and glasses than how she looks on the red carpet.

R277 They did it on purpose. They want to look sympathetic and contrite. Why do you think Manafort shows up to court with gray hair and in a wheelchair?

I can't imagine they didn't know something was coming. When you become a target of the FBI they tell you that. Now they didn't know if/when they'd be arrested but they had to know they were being investigated.

I was watching a bio show on Reese Witherspoon last night. They showed her at the Oscars ceremony as they read off the nominees. (She won for Walk the Line.) Feliicty was one of the nominees. What movie was she nominated for?

r275, be sure to post pics gurl!

Never heard of Google, huh, R280?

r279, Im too lazy to find a link, but Huffman and Macy were aware of the investigation before she was arrested.

R280 Transamerica. Back when cis could still play trans without getting slaughtered on Twitter .

Transamerica. Dolly Parton was robbed that year for a song she write for the movies called Travellin Thru

Yes, r279, this has been discussed.

Huffman at the minimum knew an arrest was imminent and was actually supposed to turn herself in. For some reason we don’t know yet, the FBI decided to “go get her” instead, complete with an early morning, guns drawn raid on her house.

I’m surprised Huffman and Macy live in Los Angeles. They seem like the pretentious types who would live in a loft in Chelsea or in Austin.

Actually, I think it's less pretentious to live in NY or TX than in L.A. There's more paparazzi, etc., in LA, so that's where all the people who want fame (in addition to an acting career) are based. Yes, I realize LA also has nice weather and is a nice place to live.

They have a home they built in Colorado R287.

R286 I believe they used a SWAT team, three helicopters and a brace of tracking dogs to bring in Lori Laughlin. The trees were filled with Israeli snipers. Seems they know something we don't about Ms Lori.

You're adorable, r260. So literal.

Austin is completely pretentious. Very Huffman-Macy.

R269 Meh, Julia “A Low Vera” Roberts is just jumping on this to promote her movie in which she plays a parent. And fairly or not, Rita Wilson is in no position to dole out parenting advice.

Rita Wilson’s son is as ridiculous as that Dilla creature who is part of this scandal.

Rita’s son is the first person I thought of when I saw Billa!

R290, Lori turned herself in when her flight landed.

The research I do for y'all. Go to 5:55

^^ and 8:20 LOL

Lori really is so pretty. She just glows. I love her lacy white top in that video. Honestly, I’m very entertained by this family.

Wait, one of these kids went to Berkeley, managed to graduate and is now getting an MBA from Southern NH Univ? online? My god. What a waste of hard money and effort. That tells you right there what a wasted of time of all of this really is.

These people are beyond stupid. The universities have to be doctoring the grades for them too. Hey journalists, find out what courses and teachers/professors/lecturers/teaching assistants they had. Hey FBi, do this too. Flip a teaching assistant.

#WhencallstheFBI

What a windfall for PR firms and Criminal defense lawyers? They are using RICO Criminal Code to try this.

On a side note grade inflation must be such a real thing. USC says the average GPA for admitted freshman is 3.73. Way back in my day there that was the grade average of the valedictorian at my high school. All the other students who went to prominent colleges were in the B plus range.

Seems like there’s a lonely lesbian on this thread.

Loved the DM’s description of Huffman and Macy.

R279 As R286 clearly noted, this has already been discussed. Felicity did indeed know something was coming. Why Felicity got the early bird rousting treatment, as did Mr.Lori, I don't know, nor does TMZs sources. I have said this earlier, but maybe Felicity waited too long to turn herself in? No clue. Interesting though how Ms. Lori was able to creep in and out with nothing more than her cunty police sketch. While Felicity and Mr. Lori got papped, both looked like death barely warmed over.

They knew and hired an expensive PR firm to deal with it. HAHA, it is not working. The American people are fucking pissed.

The PR problem is that this hits a lot of people, who happen to be parents in the gut, with them struggling to get their, they perceive, talented offspring into a decent college. The entitlement (though if some parents are honest they'd do the same for their kids to guarantee them "a better life" that is associated with a better college education) the ungrateful Olivia Jade, the hypocrisy of Lori Laughlin and her Christan values, etc.

It's like with Chris Christie's Bridgegate where the general public can relate to the anger and frustration of being trapped in a traffic jam and being someone's unwilling pawn in some political scheme in such a way.

I think Huffman and Macy could get out of this by saying that they were stupid parents who wanted their kids to succeed and prosper without knowing that their parents had a hand in it. And at least their daughter seems to be a decent human being.

Laughling fucked up big. The husband made it worse. The daughter (was a piece of work she is!) made it even worse.

Wow. OJ thought the word "clout" was just slang. I can't imagine having a kid this dumb and thinking, "yes, college is the best use of my money" even on a legitimate level

Has it been reported where the huffman/macy kid attends University? I mean, the FBI is calling these people criminals. How can Criminal Felons pass the Ethics and Integrity Code at these Universities.

EXPELL THEM!

Mr Laughlin is such an asshole.

Ah Transamerica, the last time Kevin Zegers was taken seriously.

[quote]That tells you right there what a wasted of time of all of this really is.

Oh, dear!

R303 doesn’t understand how “averages” work.

Why didn't Lil OJ just go to Azusa or Pepperdine?

Because USC wanted their money and wooed them.

At USC, who can get a BA in V-blogging and Infomercial Spokesperson.

The USC President who owns the yacht OJ was on is probably in on the deal. His daughter and OJ are friends.

Obviously, and so are all the lectures who were fixing her grades. no way this girl could do college level work.

The yacht is owned by a board member, not the school president.

That girl didn't want to go to school. She was like a kid who went limb and made it extra hard for her parents to drag her to school. Her parents basically had to throw money at everyone at school to make it look like she did the bare minimum. The parents are at fault for not realizing that this ungrateful cunt didn't deserve any help and support from them since this very mess they are in is the reward (aka karma) for all of their efforts.

R309 It has been posted many times, they are still in high school. Only one daughter had her score changed and they decided not to go through with it for their second daughter.

Billionaire real estate developer Rick Caruso, owner of party yacht, is the President of the Board of Trustees at USC. His daughter, GG, is also an influencer and already CEO of her own business, GG's bikinis. The connection between the Carusos and OJ is far from coincidental. Would love to hear some dirt on him.

Good question, R309. The oldest daughter, Sofia, was in at midst of applying to colleges, using the fake SAT scores. It was never reported which colleges she may have been accepted to (it would have to be an early acceptance if she got any). I can't imagine any colleges would offer her an acceptance now, unless maybe she agreed to take the test over.

Students who take honors or AP courses get their grades bumped up a letter grade, so now GPAs are calculated on a 5 scale. For example, a student who earns a "B" (3) in an AP course gets that figured into their GPA as an "A" (4). So-called high-achieving students today can graduate with GPAs nearing 5.0. You can get straight Bs in AP courses and your GPA looks like a 4.0.

Forgive me if everyone here knows this. I started teaching high school after a long academic career, and I didn't know this. I don't really understand how or why this happened. It's a whole new world of grade inflation out there.

R324... because they want to encourage kids to challenge themselves and take harder courses.

Why should a college-bound student, whose acceptance depends on GPA, take an AP course and risk getting a B, when they could take an easier course and ace it?

The students who challenged themselves and took more difficult coursework are better prepared for college, so their GPAs are adjusted to allow them an equal chance at acceptance than someone who took easy courses and gets a perfect GPA.

AP is also a money making scheme for the "non-profit" ETS. And students who take AP aren't even required to take the test. Many take it because it looks good on their transcripts.

If FBI investigates, they will most likely find massive fraud at Olivia's school-

I am surprised that no one is discussing just how Olivia got through her classes in that private school...

There is NO way she could do it..

She said she was never there so you can bet the school is shady.

This question is concerning the lawsuit, so hopefully someone here can answer it. $500 billion lawsuit, which most of us can agree is excessive. This scam involved around 700 to 750 kids over a 25 years period. On average that is 30 students a year, spread out over all those schools. Wouldn't the parent to have to prove their student didn't get in because of the scam? As we have seen there are many kids that didn't get into their school of choice, even with high scores. Maybe this scam will make it more transparent when certain student are selected while others are denied. They would also have to prove their child suffered for not being accepted. If they were accepted into another school and went on to a successful career, are the parents going to claim their career would have been better if they were accepted to their school of choice? Got to say, if this lawsuit winds through the courts it will be very interesting.

500 billion really caught everyone's attention. Also, Kay Toy is a teacher, so she probably knows more about this sort of thing than most.

Deadspin has an article about the Yale women's soccer coach who helped pass students off as "athletic recruits" - he is a huge piece of shit who would make students write his papers for him when he was getting his degree in recreation and sports science and coaching education in 2018.

I think the 500 billion is excessive, but it's on purpose to bring attention to said lawsuit, and to express how far reaching and damaging this has been to literally tens of thousands, if not a million plus students, and their parents in the past decade. Think it out. The ripple effect of this sham has derailed the college dreams of at least, hundreds of thousands of students. Imagine having all your college dreams set on a select few schools that offered programs that would nurture a future career. But being blocked in attending because some undeserving, dumb as shit, rich kid and their parents, bought their way into your hopeful slot.

We have not heard the last of this, and all parents indicted in this, will have their reputations tainted forever!

"Imagine having all your college dreams set on a select few schools that offered programs that would nurture a future career. But being blocked in attending because some undeserving, dumb as shit, rich kid and their parents, bought their way into your hopeful slot."

The cheaters are assholes......but I don't understand people who "have to" go to one college, there are hundreds of colleges in America, find another option. And getting into elite colleges has become harder and harder over the years, competing with cheaters like this might be part of it but that's not the only reason why. The number of kids implicated in this is relatively small - 700 people is a drop in the bucket when you consider the millions of Americans who go to college

Reading these articles I’m amazed at the subjects you can get a degree in in the USA. Unless you have connections most of these degrees must be useless. On the other hand you can’t conpete without one so it’s a catch 22. I don’t blame people for being furious over this.

R331: "In a report from Bill Gallagher and Skakel McCooey..."

"Skakel McCooey" has got to be the preppiest name that ever prepped.

"The cheaters are assholes......but I don't understand people who "have to" go to one college, there are hundreds of colleges in America, find another option."

Because R333, there are some disciplines that are stellar at certain schools more than they are at other colleges. Ask this question to the rich assholes who insisted on getting their kid into that elite school when there were hundreds of other options. Stop blaming Nancy from Idaho why she couldn't just select a local university instead of her dream to go to Stanford for their bio-medical sciences. Since this news broke, people have been sharing their stories of applying to 5 or more of the top colleges and getting declined by all of them. You have to have certain GPA and scores on the ACT/SAT to even think of applying for these schools, so to have the belief that you'll get accepted by at least one of these top schools, but still fall short... this breaking news helps explain why they didn't get in. This isn't about other options, these applicants applied to multiple colleges, but as we all know now, they were cocked blocked by the rich for their top college choice.

"..... this breaking news helps explain why they didn't get in"

Um, no. It doesn't. You really think this is the ONLY reason why those kids didn't get into their first choice colleges?

"Stop blaming Nancy from Idaho why she couldn't just select a local university instead of her dream to go to Stanford for their bio-medical sciences."

Most of the people who didn't get in are rich too, not "Nancy from Idaho" - poor kids don't usually apply to these kinds of schools. Many poor kids don't go to college at all, or they stay home and go to a public school instead of flying thousands of miles from their home to go to Rich Kid U

r325, I know that's the thinking but the reality is that the kids are not all that capable. As a college professor I had kids tell me every year that they had taken AP courses in high school and therefore deserved As for their work. In truth, there was no discernible difference between their work and that of "regular" students at the college level.

Like r326 said, the College Board is kind of a scam. Now that I teach AP students, maybe 1/3 of them are strong students. The majority are socialized to think that way, and the curriculum is watered down to help them maintain the illusion.

R327, as I said before, OJ's school, Marymount, is in major damage control. They've hired another PR firm in addition to the one they already have. They are certainly fearful of the FBI going into their records but they're also dealing with furious parents who feel the school defrauded places like USC and their own daughters who played by the rules now are attending a tainted school

R339 GOOOD

R320 Excellent summation

It's routine for students who get 4 on the AP language exam to get to college (and I'm not talking elite--just better state schools and R1s) and earn Bs in writing classes because the AP training in high school AP classes conditioned them to repeat enough words from the prompt to get a high score (based on regurgitation masked as reading comprehension). Those doing so were shocked that they would be expected to actually devise their own main ideas and topics once they got to college.

[quote], I know that's the thinking but the reality is that the kids are not all that capable. As a college professor I had kids tell me every year that they had taken AP courses in high school and therefore deserved As for their work. In truth, there was no discernible difference between their work and that of "regular" students at the college level.

I pray you were not an English professor.

R342 were you not impressed with the professed professor's use of the word "that" 5 times in one "paragraph"?

My college professors always wanted us to use lots of "that"s...

Interestingly....about six weeks ago, a junior at L.A.'s prestigious Harvard-Westlake School wrote an editorial for the school's newspaper titled, "Start Putting Extra-Time to the Test." The kids knew.

[quote]“I have seen more than a few of my classmates flock to specialists with the hopes of being diagnosed with a disorder that would qualify them for extra time on their entrance exams,” Glassman wrote. “Extra time has been exploited by some wealthy families who use their easy access to expensive medical professionals to give their children an upper hand in the college admissions process.”

Marymount? Are you talking about Loyola Marymount the college?

Marymount School for Girls -- Bel Air Catholic school.

Notable alumni

Olivia Jade Giannulli, class of 2018, YouTuber

Tatyana Ali, class of 1997, actress

Charlotte Lawrence, attended but did not graduate, musician & model

Raquel Alessi, class of 2001, actress

Julie Berman, class of 2002, actress

Maria Blasucci, class of 2004, actress & writer

Briana Lane, class of 2003, actress & musician

Princess Camilla, Duchess of Castro, class of 1989, industrialist

Marie Digby, class of 2001, singer

Mia Farrow, class of 1963, actress

Mariska Hargitay, class of 1982, actress

Patricia Hitchcock, class of 1946, actress

Khloe Kardashian, attended but did not graduate, television personality

Kim Kardashian, class of 1998, television personality

Kourtney Kardashian, class of 1997, television personality

Kristin Klein, class of 1988, volleyball player

Giada De Laurentiis, class of 1989, chef

Bianca Lawson, class of 1997, actress

Patricia Ann "Tisha" Sterling, class of 1962, actress & writer

Marlo Thomas, class of 1956 actress

Tennessee Thomas, class of 2003, drummer for the band The Like

I have a cousin who passed away from cancer last year. She lived in San Joe and was a patient of the doctor who was arrested in the scam. Last night, my cousin's widower posted on Facebook about the story and how he was disappointed in that doctor because he and my cousin liked him.

R346, it can be confusing. Loyola Marymount University is a private Catholic university located in Westchester.

Marymount High School is a Catholic, all-girls, college prep school, located on the edge of Bel-Air (across Sunset Blvd from UCLA).

"Could do," r318? More like "Would EVEN do! As IF!"

[quote] Patricia Hitchcock, class of 1946, actress

LOL. Wouldn't it be funny if they investigate and find scamming all the way back in history involving Hollywood golden-era celebrities.

Patricia Hitchcock! Wow. I just watched Strangers on a Train last night for the 84th time. I love her in that movie. I wish she had been in more films Her voice was a dead-ringer for Marilyn's. I wonder if Marilyn copied her, the other way around, or just a coincidence I looked at Patricia's wiki and she's still with us at 90. Sorry for the OT blather.

R322 -wanting more dirt on Caruso, here 's a start:

^^anal butt probes, wait, what???

They're going to be spending a lot more time there, r289, when she gets probation and they're about ten million dollars lighter for her mother smothering.

One student, Bravo junior Andy Garcia, hadn’t said much during the discussion. Asked if he cared to comment, he shifted in his wheelchair and said he wanted to go to college but didn’t know how he’d ever come up with the money, so he’s doing whatever he can.

He plays wheelchair basketball, he said, hoping for a scholarship.

“I don’t even like basketball,” he said.

These kids need to be taken out of school for at least a year or two. And enrolled as a volunteer with a non-profit that deals with the poor. Free health clinics, food kitchens or day care. Let them work hard, sweat and toil. Then we will see if they have developed some character.

Marilyn copied Betty Grable, r352.

r216, Jon Hamm can play him in the movie.

R355 Since their kids are not even in college good luck with that. The youngest one they decided not to use a proctor to change her grades. No kid was not denied admission because of what Felicity has done. The most egregious person is people like Lori and her husband.

R324 is right. Because there's such a push to pump up the GPA, kids take more and more APs with the result that the APs have been dumbed down--in English there are two English APs--English Lit and English Composition. Everyone knows that English Composition is for kids who can't manage any kind of literary analysis. Even the teaching of English Lit, which is considered one of the harder APs, has been dumbed down. Kids are very much taught the test instead of the subject. It's depressing as all get-out, since it's counter to developing any innate love of learning. And, frankly, a lot of these kids are going to need unlearn a bunch of "skills" since what's taught is not what you actually do in college.

The whole weighted GPA thing is a bit of a crock because different schools weigh things differently--some schools offer tons of APs from freshmen year on, others don't do them at all, while others only allow them in the upper grades and put a limit on the number a kid can take.

Which is why Harvard groups a fairly wide range of GPAs together and doesn't quibble about the difference between a 4.2 and a 4.7.

And, by the way, Mrs. Toy's son's 4.2 ain't that impressive if you know about weighted GPAs.

Someone should make a movie out of all this, but it should definitely be a comedy.

The chair of the Stanford English Department on the hypocrisy of admission$.

R353 Thanks for the info on Rick Caruso, yacht owner and President of Trustees at USC. Besides real estate development, he has also "served" as a commissioner for the DWP, LA Police Department and Coliseum . Very connected to powerful and corrupt city organizations. There must be more to his story.

r362 I would *love* to see what John Waters would do with this.

Kathleen Turner as Felicity Huffman

Interesting article R363. I'm sure you caught this that it was still no guarantee they would get into the school. "Why not? Because....your kid never completed the application. (The other sailing bribery applicant apparently got rejected.)" The lawsuit is not going to be a slam dunk by any means. If they can prove even someone with help didn't get in it diminishes the argument the lawsuit is claiming.

Stanford, at least, is going to have a defense. Stanford also does less for legacies than other top privates. Faculty brats, big donors and star athletes are the big ways to get in that don't involve stellar grades/scores. Stanford also likes a good sob story.

Look Ma, college cheating ain't just for the rich anymore!

[quote]Moe’s Coursework Completion Services makes as much as $21,000 per month writing papers for students at various education levels, according to an exclusive interview with the owner of the academic fraud company.

[quote]The startup is a “paper mill,” meaning that students pay it to do coursework and term papers. Moe told Yahoo Finance that hundreds of students have used the service, which has been running since January 2017 and advertises publicly on Facebook.

r349, there's also a Marymount Manhattan College in NYC.

Have to say, I haven't enjoyed Datalounge in years as much as I have, with this series of threads. And speaking of education--what an education I'm getting! I had no idea Felicity Huffman had a blog pandering to fraus. I certainly had no idea what an Olivia Jade was until this moment! Or hearties!

"Elite universities are quite proud of the fact that they have campus buildings named after people whose children were then rejected. Angry large donors keep the whole system from looking too much like straight-up bribery."

"... below the very top (so the fear goes) there is no safety net, no social compact, nothing but precariousness, gig economy jobs and debt. No wonder parents are freaked out, panicky and mildly deranged with anxiety that their kids might fall out of the 1%."

Add Operation Varsity Blues to a Growing List of Scandals at USC

Last year the LA Times wrote of a “nagging sense that USC’s climb in renown and wealth had come at the expense of ethical leadership and sound management.” Those words might ring even truer today.

There’s a video of OJ on some guys interview show and she pronounced her last name ja-newy I know Italian and it’s ja-newly where you say each L in Gianulli. There’s one where she is describing her retail “haul” and has to ask mom how to say sarong which she thought might be sa-rawnge ending like orange. Oh my fucking lord what a dumbass!

r363's article is fascinating, I wonder who "Bill" is:

"And then there was a kid I’ll call Bill. Bill drank and drugged his way through high school. He was drunk in class and drunk all night. He was a supercilious jerk and personally quite cruel. He was also tall and handsome in a dissipated preppy hangdog way. Think Prince William with a little dash of Elvis. His grades hovered in the D range. He had briefly been on the crew team but had dropped out because of drunkenness. When the early decision acceptances came through — surprise! Bill got in. I later realized Bill’s last name was on a prominent group of campus buildings. I could almost feel the scales dropping from my eyes: Oh, this is how the world works. Now I get it!"

But wasn't that still doing it the "old fashioned way" r377? Buying or donating a building / endowment? I haven't read the article yet, so I may well be wrong in the "Bill" case you are discussing. I am not saying those methods are ethical, but they have been around since schools have been in existence. One could even make the argument that such actions at least serve the school's student body at large, not just the one student.

The methods this operation has uncovered are far more flagrant, vain and greedy to me. Serving no one in the long run, except the lawyers who will make a bundle representing these cunts and us for getting a fuckton of entertainment and schadenfreude from it all.

Why did they charge Huffman with mail fraud? Mail fraud sounds like you sent a bad check in or something. I take it it means more than that?

R379 By a mile, and that's all you are getting out of me. You just want people to tell you to look it up for yourself, because you are THAT desperate for attention. Well, here is your attention fix, now go fuck off.

My uncle went to Georgetown in the late '40's, early 50's. There were kids that could not afford to go home during the holidays. Not all people that were accepted into Georgetown were wealthy, even back then. BTW, unfortunately my family was sued in one of the most sensational stories of 1951.

r381 What story? You can't leave us dangling like that!

I'll venture a guess.

It is a long story that I am sure I would be eviscerated over R382, I'm reticent in telling this story because people will claim I am making the story up. My mom and her brother were ten years apart. This is my moms story. He would sneak into her bedroom and they would take the corporate plane from Chicago to ST Louis for coffee. It was obvious the love she had for her brother. You can verify this story by going to the Georgetown site. The other students didn't have the money to go home for Christmas to their family so my uncle volunteered to fly them home. Unfortunately there was a snow storm and the plane crashed killing my uncle, Joseph F Mertes Jr. and his classmates. They were in body bags, but there were just ashes. My grandmother never flew in a plane after that. This is probably why I am against suing. My uncle was doing the right thing and circumstances beyond his control cost not only his life, but the life of his classmates.

Obviously, these universities are involved in this SCAM for more money. How can these students felons do they course work? And in the athletics fraud part, they would have to do all their course work, plus all the sport training?

Moreover, the Private Charter Prep Schools have to know about the scam too, at the very least.

[quote][R363]'s article is fascinating, I wonder who "Bill" is.

And *I* wonder who this just-asking-to-be-punched rich asshole is:

And then there was the time an eminent professor I know wore a colorful jacket to an advising meeting with an entering student, a scion of a great industrial fortune. At the end of the meeting, the young man, who was all of 18 years old, pointed at the jacket and barked: “And next time we meet you’ll wear something more appropriate.”

oprah and gail

R384 Wow. Thank you so much, and no heckling here!

[quote]These colleges are also expensive to operate. They have intense capital needs and are locked in an arms race with other elites. Derek Bok, the former president of Harvard, joked about various outlandish schemes to solve Harvard’s fundraising needs, including selling the last hundred places in the freshman class.

WTF, doesn't Harvard have an endowment of $36 billion?!

My mother wanted to study sciences in university but ninety years ago women were encouraged to take more feminine subjects by forcing them to have higher marks than men if they wanted to get into the various science departments. Mum had very good marks, higher than required for men but just short of the grade required for women.

Her uncle, a fellow whose wife was a suffragette, found out and bribed the university to admit her by refinishing the wooden floors in the gym for free. Mum got in and graduated in the top tenth of her class in mathematics in 1932 without having to do a minor in Home Ec or Literature.

So in a way I'm part of the sordid legacy of college admissions scams.

Was this a public university r390?

I think the scandal is only the tip of the iceberg someone has to fix their grades to keep them in school or they would probably flunk most of their courses.

exactly

I thought Felicity was really good in Transamerica and actually deserved the Oscar in that rather weak year.

Her character in the last season of American Crime was really well tended. She played a kind of basic woman who discovers just how corrupt and evil her husband’s family is (they are revealed to her as essentially human traffickers). It was a very different character than any I had seen her play in the past.

She will most likely lose her career over this. But Hollywood loves a comeback and you really never know. Mel “Sugar Tits” Gibson was tacitly welcomed back a decade or so later. It can happen.

Huffman and WHM deserve all this and more though. The sense of entitlement and the tone of the released emails from her were both very disturbing. What a disservice to your child to fake them out on their own test scores.

How Georgetown presented r384's uncle's crash:

April 11, 1951: Georgetown Discontinues Football, Student Deaths Stun Georgetown

R395

Then there is that other side door:

Azia Kim was like any other Stanford freshman. She graduated from one of California’s most competitive high schools last June, moved into the dorms during New Student Orientation, talked about upcoming tests and spent her free time with friends.

The only problem is that Azia Kim was never a Stanford student.

And another: (scroll down)

"LONELY" 27-YEAR-OLD POSED AS HARVARD FRESHMAN FOR MONTHS

More!

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R391 Yes, it's a public university, apparently operating on a shoestring in the late twenties.

Felicity Huffman Asked If She's Worried About Going to Jail

Wow - Macy and Huffman both look like complete shit in that video. They look like they haven’t eaten in theee days.

My cousin's friend's sister's mother is very good friends with Felicity and is "in" her crowd. Apparently she is counting her blessing that the lesbian affair she's been having for half a decade hasn't been reported on yet.

NYT: ‘Pied Piper’ of College Admissions Scam Had All the Answers

This makes Shameless funnier to watch.

William H Macy looks older than Bill Macy!

[quote]Why did they charge Huffman with mail fraud? Mail fraud sounds like you sent a bad check in or something. I take it it means more than that?

Mail fraud is a so-called "legal term of art," so yes, it means more than its literal definition. Similar to "wire fraud," all it does is describe a means of fraud that takes place over state boundaries - the necessary requirement in order to seek federal jurisdiction. "Mail" and "wire" nearly always refer to frauds of this nature, hence their inclusion.

Macy’s “Shameless” paycheck just became a lot more important to that household.

Since this has been going on since 2011 I would like to know how many of them went on to graduate from college.

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Kay Toy wants those houses

How can you believe an article when they get the much publicized bail amount wrong R411?

Damn Macy looks so fucking old!

I bet it’s killing Felicity that she’ll never receive another Oscar nomination.

It is a good thing she can afford to have someone do her grocery shopping for her R415.

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Actor William H Macy in Shameless.....(pun intended)

Nicollette Sheridan's comments. I hope Brown University mom Teri Hatcher comments soon.

Nothing we didn't already know, but a couple of cunty moments.

Her filler face here just looks heinous.

The Marymount girls pulled up on Harlow!

Felicity was overcompensating with the mommy blog.

Felicity looks like Melanie Griffith in 420. The face has caved in though in the most recent pictures and she looked haggard.

[quote] Why did they charge Huffman with mail fraud

The college applications and fake SAT results was sent in over the mail.

Also, the tax write off to the IRS and the check to a fake charity. Because of the IRS/Charity scam part of it, the FBI is using RICO Laws to seize their assets. This is how I understand it. They do not care too much about the prison sentence part of it. This is up to the corrupt and broken criminal courts. The FBI/IRS is seizing their assets by using RICO. It seems like a hard thing to do, but the Boston FBI has done it before with the Child Rapers (AKA catholic church).

[quote]The college applications and fake SAT results was sent in over the mail.

Oh, dear!

Lookk at it this way, there are:

IRS crimes (pay back all the money, fines, penalties and may have prison time)

Criminal charges (these are prison sentences and fines. This is a court trial, or a plea bargin.)

Family court (minor children are involved. parents involving family members and household staff)

Civil Court ( under RICO others can sue against the frozen assets).

I live the smell of asset seizures in the morning!

At r420 I see slightly sober Heather Locklear old filler face.

The rich have always tried to bribe their way into good colleges.

Back in the '80s and 90s I was an Assistant Dean for a Top 25 university. While the University offered multiple large information sessions each day, I would conduct 1:1 interviews sessions when requested by faculty, development officers, or influential alum. I would occasionally get 'thank-you' gifts for taking the time to meet with these prospective applicants. While I never received $, I was sent gifts afterwards (a Mark Cross passport cover, Hermes ties, a Waterford Crystal decanter, batik from Indonesia, bottles of Scotch, smoked salmon, baklava, and tins and tins of cookies).

All food gifts went to the mail room to be devoured by the work study students. I'd donate the other bits of baksheesh to campus fundraisers / silent auctions. A student's admissions file would not mention any receipt of gifts as I did not want that to influence any decision.

Most of the gifts came from people who ended up not applying after all. But that passport cover helped raise money for Hurricane Andrew relief, the decanter helped the student theatre, etc. And the mailroom staff loved the chocolate chip cookies.

Most of these 'gift donors' never submitted an application.

@LosFelizDaycare

We can’t address the admissions scandal yet but if anyone has leads on an LFDC quidditch team please come forward. We’re unable to locate practice locations or a game schedule but have a full roster.

I’ve always liked Felicity and feel badly that she got herself into this. It’s far easier for people with means to get caught up in something like this than many want to admit.

They want good things for their kids so badly that it blinds them. I think many people who are pointing fingers would find themselves sorely tempted if they were presented with the opportunity.

I think jail would be overly harsh. Some sort of financial restitution is probably the way to go. I don’t think it should have an effect on her career (or Lori Loughlin’s, for that matter).

R432, their kids already had "good things". It's not like they wouldn't have been able to go to college if their parents hadn't committed these crimes.

They robbed other people's kids of a shot at "good things".

My mom wouldn't have done it for me R432 and she had the means. A cashier made a mistake in change to my grandfather and he made my brother and I walk 6 blocks to return the money. Lying and cheated were unacceptable behavior in our household. I'm not perfect, but I try my damnest to live by the values my grandparents and mom instilled in me.

"It's not like they wouldn't have been able to go to college if their parents hadn't committed these crimes."

Yeah, but you could say the same things about the kids they "robbed" of a spot in college. Most of those kids are also affluent, and I bet they all applied to to other good schools and were accepted

Lori probably had the 6 giant flat screen TVs delivered because the family members probably most likely are angry and aren't talking to each other. They shut down their social media and Lori has been shitcanned from her Hallmark shows. I imagine that they are just locked in their bedrooms and watching DVDs, Netflix or Hulu.

[quote] I don’t think it should have an effect on her career

Too late for that now.

R434 Similar story in my family. My grandparents had means and real integrity, my mom had less integrity but she never would have stooped to paying to have someone cheat for us.

R432 I think plenty of people would take the opportunity if given the chance but I'm not sure how much having the means makes a difference on values. If anything having the means should have eased the pressure on them because their kids would have been fine even if they hadn't gotten into those colleges. It would have been disappointing but those kids would still have plenty of options and it wasn't make or break for them. The parents did it because their values were in the wrong place.

I think they should all be forced to create a scholarship fund but the courts are going to want to make an example of these parents so a short prison stay is possible.

The FEDS should also go after them for tax fraud. They paid the fees and wrote them off on their taxes (to fake charity).

The feds usually get you, not for what you do, but for lying about it -- like taking false write-offs.

^the feds get drug dealers all the time. upthread poster thanks for your science siren mum story..I didn’t know that happened with higher grade requirements. I called my mum, mum (not typical American so I thought maybe you are Canadian or English. She was born in 1932 to parents who had never gone to college. her mum told me she recalled having 3 crying babies and no food. my mother guaranteed parents to teach their kids to swin with only the requirement they could put their face in the water. She waitresses from age 12. She wrote to the Ivy League medical schools around age 12 and asked for advice for her upcoming medical career. Some wrote back; one said you will have to focus on career only and have no husband or kids. She thought, nonsense men have families and practice medicine and so will I. She did her zoology degree in 3 years as she though her parents couldn’t afford it. she got into and graduated from Northwestern med school and was the first year women got in. One of her professors was loyal Davis.,Nancy Reagan’s stepfather. He said never let an insurance company tell you how to practice medicine. She helped low income people and took calls in the middle of the night from patients. I learned from her she called or wrote northwestern and said she had been admitted elsewhere (she had but wanted to go to Chicago from rural Wa state) and needed to know if they were going to accept her. they said yes. I called the top liberal arts college I applied to (also in the Midwest) and asked if they needed to interview me for a decision and I get a yes. I had lower grades than test scores from arguing with teachers😀

^sorry they said I was accepted not they needed to interview me.

My friend said his mom was a Vasaar professor of French and she discovered the male professors made double the women’s salaries. This was awhile back.

@LAmag

#ICYMI: College Admissions Scandal Dad Mossimo Giannulli Probably Isn’t the “Liberal Elite

These losers did not want to pay the full cost of tuition for the dumb shit spawn. They wanted a tax write off for it.

FUCK THESE SCUM.

JACK UP THEIR TAXES.

Wow what the hell were Marymount girls doing driving to Harlow's crib to intimidate or threaten her??? LOL. She should have called the police and had them arrested for trespassing. And they're threatening to sue her.

R441 I'm Canadian. Apparently it was a thing back then that the female students needed higher marks than males to get into male-dominated fields of study though my mother's cousin, also born in 1912, seemed to get into medical school in Scotland with no problems beyond a great deal of harassment by other students and even faculty. When she graduated she ended up working with her obstetrician father as there was still prejudice against female doctors even in the most gynocentric medical specialty. Good for your mother for persevering. Mum's cousin was still delivering babies into her late seventies.

My mother never used her mathematics degree. She got married aged 21 and had children, and I was born when she was 46.

R439, everything and anything that will stick to these cheats will, including the tax fraud. That's a big no no. If I were caught up in this mess, I would need to be sedated every evening just to be able to wind down enough to get 4 hours of sleep. Life would just suck.

R448, I agree. Especially since life was so great for them before, such an abrupt and shocking fall. I do feel sorry for them on that human level.

R449, you're a better human than they are. Cheers to you.

Jumping ahead, do we suppose when Will takes the throne, will people generally (not officially) call her "Queen Kate" or "Queen Catherine"? Or will there still be some who refer to her as "Kate Middleton." She'll be a wonderful Queen, in any case. I can't wait, honestly, hope I'm around when it happens.

Dammit, I strayed off the British Royal Family gossip thread. Carry on.

No one's past is past in Jewish World.

This is why time stands still in a Victim Culture Surveillance Society.

No one can grow unless the Victim Culture says you have grown, and to them, you need to show proof:

Money or pain.

Those rich people are not crying boo hoo MARY over this. Jail may have spooked them but that kind of insulation does not give way easily. They might have their freedom curtailed but their lawyers probably tell them don't sweat it, that's temporary too, blip on the radar. That kind of arrogance will say, oh I knew it was unethical but not illegal, and they will probably get off with a light punishment.

As Harlow noted, the actions by the girls does sort of prove what she said. I liked how she said she was impressed with how grammatical their posts were so the school is doing a good job. Overall, Harlow seems like a really cool girl.

It's fun when we clothesline rich people, but it happens more to the poor.

We still don't have a designated boo for this thread. Maybe one of the prosecutors will be boo-worthy.

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R458 he's got Lyle Menendez hair! Or should that be "hair"? I feel that the designated boo should preferably be one of the "good guys", but that's just my two cents. I'm suspicious of the lull in the action. I wonder if the second wave is about to hit?

Meanwhile prosecutors are gonna let the patriots Kraft John off the hook...

I saw your mom's cousin on Petticoat Junction, R447.

I wrote my son's college essay. It was 11pm. Online applications were due at midnight. I'd been a professional writer, so I just tossed one off. I used imperfect grammar. I wrote in an 18 year old male voice. I told a great story (true.) He got into several colleges with middling grades. This was years ago and not as competitive a time as now. But my point is, if I had it to do over. . . I wouldn't write the essay. My son loved college. Even told me he'd never dreamed how much he would enjoy and appreciate the classes he took. But the thing is, it's taken him years to become more responsible and to lose his flakiness. He's still fighting it. I baled him out too many times. I know this now. Wonder if these parents will ever know how seriously they've hurt their children?

The end result of this scandal may be strict changes to the college/uni application process. I can see strict electronic applications being instituted at the top schools, whereby applicants will need to sign in live at designated times to apply to prove they're actually submitting, writing the essay, etc. The essay subject will change randomly on any given day so applicants won't know in advance what the topic is. It will mimic the current SAT test taking process to weed out cheating.

Something has to change to at least make sure schools know exactly who is filling out applications and submitting them.

This is why I'm glad I don't have children. The whole college experience has become an overpriced ordeal, and now these kids have to jump through hoops, practically from birth, just to get admitted.

[quote] It will mimic the current SAT test taking process to weed out cheating

Did you read the FBI indictment? They cheated on the SAT as well.

They need to change the requirements for getting disability on tests, these days if you have enough money you can easily pay a doctor off. This needs to end, make it harder for people to game the system and let the kids with real problems get extra time. And if you need 2 days to take the SAT because you get some anxiety or ADD, you probably should be rethinking college.

R462, are you a frau?

R467 Glad you said something. I got that vibe. Although, it also has the makings of an EST.

Does that take away from what they posted R467?

Interesting breakdown. And Bella, you can get work done.

Whatever changes the universities make it will benefit the wealthy, not regular income folks like us? The system is rigged against us.

The only changes that would help would be to lower tuition costs. No interest student grants (not loans). Forgiving Student loan deb, which is a great way to get back at the financial institutions that caused the economic crash. Also, it would restart the economy by freeing up people purchasing power of the American People.

Vote for Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren for President. They are the only ones that get it.

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The rich will find new ways to game the system and get around the new rules that were meant to prevent this.

R472 I just don't get what is going on with OJade's face. Does she have cheek implants and/or fillers? Why is her face so gummy looking? She has a very strange large area under her nose that is, flat and frozen. Is that due to Botox?

R474 I don't know, though I see a bit of FAS going on, which would explain a few things. Sidebar question: is there such a thing as Fetal Cocaine Syndrome? That would explain even more.

As I mentioned earlier, l do know these two girls have a bad case of Giudice twohead.

Thanks, R475 It reminds me a bit of Jennifer Lawrence. Their faces look like wax dolls.

I thought you needed to show identification to take the SATs, like a driver's license or student photo id.

If the proctor is crooked, r 477 , you think that matters?

Regarding the article at r470, I find it hard to believe that most of these kids didn't know that something was up. I had to laugh at the one guy who was "allowed" to take the ACT at home with his mother as the proctor. Honestly, how could he possibly think that was kosher? I realize that these weren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but still.

What I am interested in is what jail sentence they will receive, if any.

R480 Found this on Vulture. Seems paltry but, sadly, believable.

Could they go to jail?

Yes. If convicted, they could each face up to five years in prison plus fines.

Felony charges usually carry minimum sentencing that includes jail time. It will be up to the defendants and their attorneys about how to plead and if any deals can be made (the sums of money each allegedly paid could also dictate punitive damage). In some cases, people indicted on these types of charges can also face lesser penalties if they are able to offer useful information about other possible offenders.

Faking for a disability for special test arrangements worked well for Maggie Lizer.

At the end of the day, Lori and Felicity's careers will never, ever be the same. I think Felicity will be lucky to get supporting roles in indies and lower budget films, but Lori, she'll be lucky to shrill for cookware on infomercials. What these two actresses participated in is not only illegal, but these are federal criminal charges and they misused their wealth and privilege to get their kids into college in a fraudulent matter that has pissed off so many people, poor, middle class, and wealthy, who have done the right things to try to get their kid into an elite college.

I know I for one wouldn't watch anything they're in, and surely, if plea deals are made, more names will be dropped. These people only care about themselves, that's why they're in this mess, and they are going to save their asses by coughing up other names.

I saw that R481, but it is doubtful they will serve five years. I'm not so sure Felicity or Lori have any names to give up.

Between this and Affirmative Action, most people are going to be dubious and unimpressed by anyone flaunting an Ivy League degree.

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And 57 of those were unfounded R486.

R474, it's mainly her lips, they're over-filled. Usually when you have small/ thin lips that don't allow a lot of teeth to show when you smile, you should be careful about getting lip fillers. If you don't you end up not being able to smile properly, the top lip pushes down while the bottom lip stays in place. OJ also appears to have gotten Botox between the eyes and forehead. She may have also had fillers in her cheeks.

It is so insane that a girl of that age is having ANY kind of "procedure."

"Between this and Affirmative Action, most people are going to be dubious and unimpressed by anyone flaunting an Ivy League degree."

Gotta love the Republicans blaming affirmative action for everything they don't like. And, by the way, cheating happens at a lot of different schools, not just Ivy League ones.

Won't it be ironic if they use their wealth to buy their way out of any consequences?

‘Do You Pull the Parchment?’: Students Caught Up in College Admissions Scandal Now Face a Reckoning

Looks like some of them are getting the boot out of school

[quote] And to think, I got a commendation for cheating on the Kobayashi Maru test.

@ABC7

#BREAKING USC names Carol Folt, ex-UNC chancellor, as its next president

Look who USC allowed to make a statement:

Board Chairman Rick Caruso praised her in a statement as “the right leader at the right time.”

Hard to believe a university so enmeshed in Hollywood would make every wrong PR decision possible.

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If all these students sound as dumb as OJ does on her videos, they all really need to be in college!

R496, UCLA is blundering as well, Isackson's bio is still on the UCLA website.

R498, thanks for the link. So that page is where the press got her photo. That photo might be the only time she's ever worn a jersey.

Ha...the "Stats" tab on her profile is empty. And then the bio tab: the "high school" information says: "Honorable mention All-WBAL selection in 2014 … Team captain for Woodside Soccer Club from 2012-16 … Selected Team MVP in 2015." So, is that all made up? MVP...wow!

UCLA should have jumped on that right away and deleted her bio because the press is really tearing into this one and womens soccer coach Amanda Cromwell will probably lose her job because of this. The fact that it's STILL up there means someone's asleep at the switch.

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Well I blame Aunt Becky too. She raised garbage children.

Um...you're 18. They can't FORCE you to do anything.

"While Bella was 'far more invested in college and would have love to have completed USC', Olivia is devastated over the damage that has been done to her brand.

'[Olivia] is really angry with her parents because she told them she did not want to go to college and she was pushed,' the source added.

'She has been passionate about her career and wanted to work and was doing well, but that wasn't enough. Her parents said she would have to juggle college and her career.'

'Now she's devastated because everything she built imploded before her eyes. She feels they ruined everything.'

The source said that Olivia is so embarrassed by the scandal that she 'doesn't even want to go out'. "

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What. A. Cunt.

Now she's devastated because everything she built imploded before her eyes. She feels they ruined everything.'

The source said that Olivia is so embarrassed by the scandal that she 'doesn't even want to go out'. "

If she was doing that well, she could've said "Fuck college, I'm not going" and rented an apartment in WeHo.

[quote]Several colleges issued statements this week indicating that students unwittingly associated with the scandal could still be held accountable because they are required to certify, by signing their applications, that they had told the truth.

Given the above quote from the article at R492, I see no problem with schools expelling students who gained admittance through fraudulent means, whether or not those students were aware of the fraud.

I'm trying to figure out why companies would want her to be a spokesperson. Who the hell want a dimwit hawking their products.

[quote]Who the hell want a dimwit hawking their products.

I’m guessing you’re not a spokesperson, hmmm?

I'm guessing you're an idiot R510 that would buy anything she shills.

Right, R511. Because I have a need for cosmetics.

Learn to phrase a question, including articles and proper punctuation and you won’t make yourself look like an idiot for calling out someone else’s intelligence.

The source said that Olivia is so embarrassed by the scandal that she 'doesn't even want to go out'. "

She's embarrassed that the scam was discovered? Well boo fuckin hoo

Oh look the grammar/spelling Queen at R512 has made her presence known. No one likes people like you.

Rich and powerful people have been helping their dumb spawns cheat for ages. Prince Harry isn't known for nickname Dims for nothing. So dumb that he failed to qualify for university and even dropped out of his military career. So dumb that he needed help and got it via cheating in school.

Maybe OJ can now start to reformulate her YT career as someone with social anxiety. I really don't think she has any other choice except to be very contrite and do it publicly. She's still young enough that there is a chance for her to get a semblance of social media career, but IF she comes completely clean and participates in some sort of volunteerism consistent with contriteness.

Do I think this is going to happen? No. OJ is so far gone, her level of shallowness so profoundly deep, if you may, that I just don't see it happening where her personality does a 180 turn. LL raised a horrible child who's now a horrible adult.

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She was blaming them because she didn't want to go to college R517. As far as I'm concerned she shouldn't have taken the test.

LL and MG should hide the kitchen knives now that OJ may be going on a psychotic break due to not able to post selfies on SM or make YT videos.

R517 Well its their fault for being so stupid they didn't realize it was a stupid idea.

The whole family is utter trash.

Heard there is trouble in Macy land. Couple keeps fighting...maybe a divorce is in the cards...

Where did you hear that R521?

R522 Not r521 But Entertainment Tonight has the story, and the DM picked it up. DM has more photos, but this link will actually work:

Macy and Huffman both have higher profile careers, so I can see situation where one of them takes the fall for the whole mess in order for the other one to still be able to get work. It seems in this case it's Macy who's trying to get out of it without taint.

I can see how he might be pissed. He called it all off for the second daughter. I suppose he might not have had much to do with the first daughter and only figured it out after it had happened?

Thanks R523

Is her teeth fake too? looks kinda fake in R523

If you check old photos R527 she use to have a gummy smile. Looks like she had the excessive gum lasered.

Mossimo was the hot guy in Janet’s You Want This video. WAY before all the plastic surgery.

Lori and Moss attended Janet’s Velvet Rope album listening party, 1997...

*snnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiffffffffffffffff* We remember! (No we don't, who cares!)

These kids sound too immature to attend university. There criminal parents are just awful.

R530 Thanks for posting that snap!

NOTHING screams conservative family values more than an exposed black lace bra.

what a waste of 500k. so fucking stupid.

Odd that Laughlin wanted the kid to go to college so much. Let her run her makeup company and post her youtube videos. At least she had a passion (no matter how shallow it was.)

I totally agree r535. In a way, I can't blame OJ for being pissed off. I don't know why OJ isn't going ahead and posting her brains out on her stupid SM. She would most certainly get curiosity clicks, and that translates to a fair bit of dosh I would think. She's an adult, so is it really Lori and Mr. Lori keeping her quiet? Perhaps it is on her own lawyer's advice, but again, why? Get that money while you can, you dim slore.

[quote]Mail fraud is a so-called "legal term of art," so yes, it means more than its literal definition. Similar to "wire fraud," all it does is describe a means of fraud that takes place over state boundaries - the necessary requirement in order to seek federal jurisdiction. "Mail" and "wire" nearly always refer to frauds of this nature, hence their inclusion.

Not quite, r408. Mail fraud does not require interstate mailing. Congressional power to enact the mail fraud statute is based in the "postal clause" of the U.S. Constitution. Prosecutors must show fraud and that the U.S. mail was used to effect an integral part of the scheme. However, the mail could have been used to send a postcard to the building next door, as long as mailing that postcard accomplished some part of the scheme.

The wire fraud statute is similar to the mail fraud statute. However, the power to enact the statute comes from the commerce clause, which gives Congress authority to regulate interstate commerce. Thus, the statute requires an interstate wire communication that effects a part of the fraud.

Wow, welcome former DOJ trial attorney! Very grateful for anything you can explain to us about this mess. What are your thoughts on the long-term ramifications of this operation? Do you think there will be any, or do you think it will all dissipate with time? Will there be prison sentences for not just Lori or Felicity, but others named in all of this, or is only probation/fines more likely? Sorry for all of the questions, but so fascinated. All ears!

My first thought is that I'm still amazed the FBI arrested Huffman at home, supposedly with guns drawn. WTF? I worked on white-collar-crime cases in which the crooks frequently seemed to view a potential conviction as the price of doing business. We worked out deals in which the defendants would surrender. On one case in which FBI agents conducted drop-in interviews at the suspects' homes, the defense attorneys were miffed, even a bit shocked that the FBI would be so rude as to drop in and not arrange an interview. Huffman or her attorney really must have pissed off someone for the DOJ to pull a stunt like that.

In my first week as a DOJ attorney, I called a CEO's office. It wasn't in regard to a criminal matter; I was checking references for job applicants. But, baby, when I announced myself on the phone as a DOJ attorney, I was speaking to the CEO within 90 seconds. Business people might not like dealing with the DOJ, but they know it's a part of business and they behave professionally. I'm betting Huffman reacted arrogantly. (I admit I enjoyed it; I promise I did not abuse it.)

r540 Oh god, you are an absolute treasure. I know it was explained on one of these threads why we didn't get any mugshots, but I can't locate it at the moment. What is your take? We did get that incredibly bitchy looking police sketch of Lori, but our hunger is great.

Speaking of Lori, why do you think she got the kid glove treatment (show up when you can, leave when you want, no paps) and not Felicity? Though my vibes agree that Felicity must have been arrogant. She knew showing up was inevitable, but dragged her feet thinking, "eh, I'll get to it" was my guess. I could be way off. But Lori and Mr. Lori's crime (fuck "alleged") is so much bigger, is it not?

Abuse anything you want and can if it brings in the deets! :)

Long-term ramifications? I expect congressional hearings with the traditional grandstanding, especially since the silly season of presidential campaigning approaches. You don't need to go to law school to see that coming.

As to punishment, I really don't know. I dealt with crooked businessmen. Most of the defendants in this matter are amateurs, though some have engaged serious legal representation. I expect the people working for the phony charity to be punished the worst with probable prison time.

I'm actually in the middle of a bout of insomnia. I don't want to comment further lest I embarrass myself. I check in daily and will answer questions if I have a clue what's going on.

Thanks again r542 aka DTA. I have insomnia too, so you have my sympathies. Try to get some rest.

I didn't know about mugshots in federal cases until I read these threads on Datalounge, no joke. No one ever wanted mugshots of our crooks, so it never came up. Questions from the press were referred to the DOJ press office (I'm drawing a blank on the official title.). I answered questions from Bloomberg reporters at the courthouse about technical details of cases on occasion, but that's as close as I ever came to publicity issues.

On the subject of legal journalism in general: Kurt Eichenwald is worth reading. He reported on a case I worked on tangentially. It was a complex case, and Eichenwald nailed it in the papers. I don't agree with everything he takes a stand on, but he's an excellent reporter.

I'm late to this party-- posted a million miles up thread. I'm the single-mom frau who wrote her son's admission essay. I did it because he was hanging with do-less surfer guys. He wasn't that interested in college, so he said if he didn't get in, he'd work and go to community college like some of his friends did. Oh, yeah, and surf, too. I knew THAT was a recipe for disaster. So I wrote the essay. For years, I thought I did the right thing. I crossed the line to save my son's life, because he ended up loving college and doing well there. He was just too dim to know what a real 4-yr college could be. His old friends are still working at surf shops, doing drugs, or have 3 kids by 3 different women. BUT. . . I wrote that essay out of guilt. Because I hadn't done more to hold him accountable, sooner. That's what this scandal means to me. Guilty parents trying to make their guilt go away for being lousy parents in the first place. You don't think really think LL looks at OJ and thinks, Wow, I raised a winner! She thinks, just like you do -- where did this ungrateful little stupid bitch come from??

"She thinks, just like you do -- where did this ungrateful little stupid bitch come from??"

May be so, r545--but all LL has to do is look in the mirror. Of course, self-reflection (even in a mirror) probably isn't her strong suit.

R546 Yep. The good parents accept responsiblity and fix themselves first. My son's flakiness, lack of responsibility continued after college. I realized I'd baled him out one too many times. Looking back I'd do it differently now. He'd have had to sink or swim. Final point is, I've worked on myself; he's gotten better. End of parent lesson.

So Lori and her husband have a reprieve until April 3rd. Apparently their lawyers have a scheduling conflict. I wonder if this is a power play and trying to distance themselves from Felicity. Felicity is still scheduled to appear March 29th.

Whoops, my bad. Felicity is scheduled for April 3rd too.

There are so many great liberal arts college in the northeast that are having trouble attracting students. Why not go there?

You can't surf at Brandeis.

Where was Felicity trying to get her kid into?

What is so odd is she is part of the Atlantic Theater Company which has a drama program through NYU. If nothing else I'm sure the kid would have got into NYU pretty easily.

What were Felicity and Macy thinking?! It's not like their girls are planning to be brain surgeons. They want to be actresses. Every interview is going to have a cringe-inducing moment in it, including this one where Bill talks about having to coax their daughters to visit after they leave for college.

Their Colorado ranch has beautiful views, horses and oil paintings.

yes, house looks nice in 553's pic.

r547 thanks for your input. Seriously-I know women get a rough ride here, (sometimes deserved, sometimes not) but as an eldergay without any relevant experience it's interesting to hear another perspective.

Personally, I saw it as just an extension of parental narcissism. Not everyone needs to go to college, especially when they have a successful gig at a young age. And I doubt parents like that would have the self-awareness to feel guilty in the first place.

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The New York Post had the story. You can read it here without dealing with the DM link stupidity

[quote]Jorge Salcedo was said to have taken the bribe

Latinos don't bring hard work and family values with them -- they bring the graft and corruption that make their home countries unlivable

No one is happy when their neighborhood turns Latino.

Are most people on this post fraus? It seems like it.

R559 I'm the OP and I am not. Frauen infiltrate nearly all of the threads on here at some point. I guess fair enough in this case since it spreads all over the place in terms of who is/was affected by this scam.

R558 Go fuck yourself.

Bye!

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From AD: "Macy loved the idea of a blue wall in the master bedroom, though it ended up bluer than [Lonni] Paul [the Macys' interior designer] anticipated, and made the nude-y blush color of their Baker Furniture Archetype sofa pinker somehow. But the actor didn’t flinch. 'Bill’s very confident in his masculinity and has no problem with it,' says Paul."

Isn't it charming that in this day and age, a man's masculinity isn't threatened by having a pink sofa? After reading that article on the Macys in AD, I loathe them even more.

April 3rd is going to be an interesting news days. EVERYONE in this initial indictment wave will be there. I'm also glad that USC and the other schools are investigating which students have been involved this shit show and expel the students, and revoke any degrees awarded.

USC was definitely in on this scam.

many of the corrupt "officials/coaches" were at USC, that's why the scammer kept steering people to that school.

R519 Lori and Mossimo better pray OJ hasn’t streamed the film “Throughbreds” during her time in seclusion - There are a lot of parallels to her own life

[quote]Where was Felicity trying to get her kid into?

[quote]What is so odd is she is part of the Atlantic Theater Company which has a drama program through NYU. If nothing else I'm sure the kid would have got into NYU pretty easily.

I don't think it's been mentioned which college they were trying to get her into. Their part in scam just seems to be test cheating part. I also think the daughter could have gotten into NYU easily. NYU already has a history of accepting children of actors, directors, and producers into their school (e.g. Bryce Dallas Howard, Jack Quaid, Billie Lourd). Then there are some lesser known actor spawn who attended NYU for a bit like Andie MacDowell's daughter Margaret Qualley. I remember reading articles years ago where Bryce Dallas Howard claimed that no one at NYU knew she was Ron Howard's daughter lol.

William H. Macy also talked about nepotism in Hollywood years ago and that his daughters would get a leg up. He and Felicity could have just avoided this scandal if they got their daughter auditions with their connections. William and Felicity could have talked to Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgewick, Andie MacDowell, or Christine Baranski for advice on getting their daughter into the business.

USC seems very corrupt.

All degrees granted there are now of questionable validity.

The fun part is now we can presume these mediocre people cheated their ways into everything they ever did. Because they probably did!

Whom did the Macys grift out of that Colorado ranch? They are probably cheating on something right this minute too. And that shoddy merchandise Mossimo pimped out to Target? Does a shred of that shit still exist? These people probably grifted and grafted their ways right up to the top, the shits.

R569 Mossimo sold his fashion label long ago. I think most of his income now is made from investments and flipping high end real estate. The US Marshals now hold a $2M Lien on their $35M (overpriced) home in Bel Air. Can it be sold? The property had already been languishing in the market for over a year, is anyone willing to go near it now? Talk about the Scarlet Letter of Real Estate!

The UCLA soccer coach was allowed to resign? I wonder if he gets to keep some benefits as opposed to losing it all if he's fired.

Jesus...

[quote] When you become a target of the FBI they tell you that

They do? LOL! No they don't. Not unless they decide they want to talk to you first. Or if you get subpoened to the grand jury. Then they'll tell your lawyer IF they ask whether you're a witness, a subject or a target.

Well the UCLA coach did accept bribes, but he still developed a powerhouse soccer program. Maybe that's why they let him resign.

[quote]He and Felicity could have just avoided this scandal if they got their daughter auditions with their connections.

They did. I guess she wasn't very good and the teachers there saw no hope.

PS -- medical school is very hard to get into, but I understand all their tests are multiple choice. They get challenged by their clinical classes, where they present cases, and are expected to have the knowledge behind the multiple choice questions.

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@CBSLA

Justin Paperny is a "prison coach." He helps the rich and famous transition to life behind bars. With the college admission scandal his potential for clients has grown exponentially

Wasn’t that Kevin Hart’s character?

R574, Salcedo hardly developed a powerhouse. He recruits top classes every year but always falls short. No one knew why he was allowed to continue. Lots of UCLA fans feel if this was the only way to get rid of him, so be it. And because UCLA is a public university, it was more difficult to just fire him the way USC did to their coaches. USC's water polo coach truly built a dynasty.

Someday our thread boo will come...

When things pick up, Part Seven is at the ready.

[quote]They did. I guess she wasn't very good and the teachers there saw no hope.

Karma's a bitch.

This scam is going on for decades . Everyone is falling from the sky now but this is nothing new . Rich people do that all the time to get their offspring in college or university .

Shit has been going on for a long time now, and out in the open too. Did anyone have this sort of outrage when things were pretty much out in the open? Remember, JFK Jr was a horrible student who flunked 11th grade, yet he was accepted into Brown. Later he failed bar exam twice I believe, and finally passed when he took the test under iffy circumstances definitely some rules bent there. Same thing pretty much with Prince Harry who by all accounts is dumb as a doorknob. In fact he was involved in a cheating scandal involving teachers who helped him cheat, there was a reason he didn't go on to university, he was too dumb to even graduate from his prep school. Both JFK Jr and Prince Harry had stories that were out in public, but why wasn't there more outrage against them , their families, and people who helped them cheat?

I thought kate help him cheat on all his exams. They went to a pretty easy school, a university for rich kids.

Maybe JFK Jr, finally passed the bar after getting a "disability" and able to take the exam over 2 days...lol. who knows? But NY bar is one of the toughest in the USA due to all the tax laws.

Already told you Brown is for stupid celeb offspring. And big names are courted by ALL universities...doesn't matter the score.

R584 Kate has nothing to do with this. Different prince, different schools.

I never heard of Prince William being stupid or needing to cheat. I also never knew that St. Andrews was an easy school for rich kids.

Harry was the one with the cheating scandal. That moron had his teachers doing his homework for him.

St. Andrews isn't an easy school--it's known for its high-end engineering program among other things.

And, yes, people knew about rich kids buying their way in--but the whole donation thing sidestepped bribery with there being no explicit quid pro quo. This was out and out bribery. So, similar, in terms of morality (though the schools will argue that big donations mean better financial aid for the worthy poors), but not legally. Also, donations don't involve deceit about the student's merits.

r588 Perfectly said.

I wonder how much Diana Ross paid to get Tracee into Brown.

Before, the rich would have to pony up to get a spot for their kids at a school, but the school got a library or a swim stadium, or a bunch of scholarships for needy kids, and the kid with the bought place got a reputation and diminishing returns.

W got into Yale, but not into HLS -- not even into UT Law. He had to go to HBS, which was no big thing at the time.

JFK Jr passed th bar, but didn't clutter up the DA's office for long, and died following the last of many delusions.

LL and husband didn't go to college. (But no ASU for their girls!) Where did Felicity and Macy go? Aspirational parents want their children to go beyond their own achievements. The Macys were thinking Stanford, Yale, or Harvard, is my guess. Anybody can get into NYU.

Huffman went to NYU--and they were thinking acting schools--i.e. Carnegie-Mellon, NYU, etc.--since they were seen by people at auditions for thsoe schools. So, not Stanford, Yale, Harvard. And while NYU isn't that big a rich, NYU-Tisch is very competitive--think below 10 percent admit rate.

Did any guys get in just because they were hot and hung? I would rather read about that.

Amen r594!

Huffman went to Putney -- perhaps the root of all of this

[quote] But NY bar is one of the toughest in the USA due to all the tax laws.

They don't ask tax law question on the NY Bar exam.

"The Macys were thinking Stanford, Yale, or Harvard, is my guess. Anybody can get into NYU."

You might want to do a google search and look up NYU's acceptance rate.

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