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Yuzuru Hanyu and other figure skating talk part 23
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Link to previous thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||03/08/2019|
So 2020 Junior Worlds
3 spots for USA
3 for Russia
2 for Italy
2 for Canada
2 for France
2 for Georgia
2 for Japan
rest with 1
2 spots in each GP: USA, Russia and Italy
1 spot in each GP: Canada, Francia and Georgia
(Canada would be entitled to fill in top 3 leave some spots vacant which will be likely for Italy)
1 spot in 6 GPs out of 7: Azerbaijan, Czech Republic, Ukraine, Israel
1 spot in 5 GPs: Austria, Turkey, South Korea, Sweden, Germany
1 spot in.4 GPs: China, Estonia, Thailandia. Belarus
1 spot in 3 GPs: Switzerland, Kazakhstan, Croatia, Spain, Bulgaria, Great Britain, Poland
I may have got something wrong with the GPs entries.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||03/08/2019|
R2 The Italian men did very well this week. I can't wait to see more meltdowns from Rizzo once Grassl starts surpassing him. Those Italians know how to do K&Cs (looking at you, Marilu).
|by Anonymous||reply 3||03/08/2019|
Rizzo upped his game after being beaten by Grassl at Nationals. At this speed, they will do 4As before everyone else just not to lose the inter-regional competition
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Does anyone know how do spots/quotas for JGP work?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||03/08/2019|
It’s Jun in the background of the bunny ear video
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Ladies FS at Universiade streaming live now, with P. J. commentating.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||03/08/2019|
R6 It's Yuzuru. Not sure about shoes but I noticed his bag. And the hair is also more like Yuzuru's. especially the bang.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||03/08/2019|
WTF was Savosin's coach wearing? A full on military ensemble with a bandolier slung over his shoulder like a beauty pageant sash (with what looks like actual bullets).
R8 it's definitely his ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||03/08/2019|
I could have sworn I heard the Russian commentators say "Vladimir Putin" while they were showing the K&C with the guy in the military regalia R9.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||03/08/2019|
You guys would make great bird watchers. I can't tell if it's Yuzu or Jun. The long legs make me think Jun - but Yuzu has long legs too - they just look so alike from a distance, especially when you can't see the face very well.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||03/08/2019|
Late to this game but loved Hiwatashi's reaction to his win. So glad for him. It's been a tough few years.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||03/08/2019|
3rd group of 4 ladies' warmup at Universiade now - Soyoun Kim of Korea; Gjersen of Norway; Gabryszak of Poland; Kuchvalsas of Latvia; MARIA SOTSKOVA of Russia is last of the five. (one withdrew: Ziquan Zhao of China.
Final group has Mihara, Konstantinova, Tursynbaeva, Meite (France) - forgot who else.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||03/08/2019|
Sorry - So-youn Park (not Kim)
|by Anonymous||reply 14||03/08/2019|
I think I'm the only one who likes Sotskova. I just like how happy she looks whenever she thinks she's done well, until she sees her scores.
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R9 better compare to verify
|by Anonymous||reply 16||03/08/2019|
Sotskova into second behind Park - lots of jump issues. She's the same height as Yuzuru! 5ft 8.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||03/08/2019|
R15, I have a soft spot for Sotskova. I like it when tall skaters compete.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||03/08/2019|
Tursy attempted a quad salchow and fell - looked better than last attempt to me.
1 Mihara 220.68, 2 Tursy 214.77, 3 Konstantinova 205.91, 4 Meite 179.56, 5 Park 175.66, 6 Takeno 175.38, 7 Sotskova 170.20, 8 Galustyan 161.89
|by Anonymous||reply 19||03/08/2019|
Sotskova is beautiful and always has great dresses so she's pleasant enough to watch but she's a rather boring skater tbh.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||03/09/2019|
r17 She looks even taller to me. Maybe because the other girls are so short. r18 I’m glad I’m not alone. r19 I wouldn't argue she's an exciting skater.
Fuji TV has upset figure skating fans (mainly Mao fans) again for using Mao, Hanyu, and Kihira to promote their latest episode of “Chokugeki! Shinsou Sakagami,” which was mainly about retired USM skaters, although it was supposed to serve as promotion for Worlds. But the first part of the show was actually quite informative.
Ito and the 3A was the topic of the first segment. Chokugeki interviewed Ito and showed footage of her performance as a special guest at the 1980 NHK Trophy when she was in 5th grade. Her jumps were great even then, though she fell on a spin. When she first went skating, she thought it was easier than walking. Then they showed her 1988 Calgary Olympics FS where she jumped five different triples seven times. In-studio guests Suzuki and Takeshi Honda pointed out she would’ve easily been a top skater today with such tech and jump GOE potential. However, Ito placed 5th in Calgary due to her lack of artistry and poor figures, and that was why she decided to focus on the 3A. She knew she wasn’t elegant or naturally artistic, but could increase her tech difficulty. They briefly showed Kihira doing the 3A when they were explaining the difficulty of the jump.
After Ito medaled at the 1992 Olympics, the JSF started the Nobeyama Gasshuku project (“Zenkoku Yuubou Shinjin Hakkutsu Gasshuku”), an intensive summer camp in Nagano for the most promising young skaters from across the country where they train all aspects of skating and performance, and seeded novices are decided. (You’ve probably seen footage of Hanyu there.) At first, they didn’t mention names, but showed images of top skaters who went through the camp: Ando, Hanyu, Kihira, Kanako, Oda, Takahashi, Asada, and Uno. Then they showed footage of a rough Ando (15), Kanako Murakami (11), Sara Honda (9), and Arakawa (11?) at Nobeyama, as well as some of the training and food. Apparently, the Russians based part of their system on the camp.
After they showed Arakawa’s Sochi FS and suggested the camp had a hand in her win, they then named the other top skaters from the camp who medaled at international events: Suzuki, Asada, Ando, Kozuka, Takahashi, Oda. No Hanyu or Uno despite their Olympic medals and theme.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||03/09/2019|
[quote] Does anyone know how do spots/quotas for JGP work?
they take Junior World results. One skater per country and order them
top 3 countries : 2 entries in all GPs
countries ranked 4-6: 1 entry per GP
countries ranked 7-10: 1 entry in 6 GPs (they miss one)
rest of countries with a skater in the FS: 1 entry in 5 GPs (miss 22)
rest of countries with a skater between 25th and 30th in the SP: 1 entry in 4 GPs
rest of country with a skater at Junior Worlds: 1 entry in 3 GPs
rest: 1 entry in 2 GPs
that is for Ladies and Men
|by Anonymous||reply 22||03/09/2019|
I'm watching the Universiade gala and Stanislava skated to MJ...she looked like she was having an epileptic fit. I really can't stand her skating.
Kind of funny that Russia couldn't win gold in ladies or mens' singles here, at home.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||03/09/2019|
MJ ?That pedo? BLeeee
|by Anonymous||reply 24||03/09/2019|
Unless I made a mistake in my calculations (PCS factoring and the missing choreo difference), Mihara and Tursy would win junior worlds.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||03/09/2019|
r23 Lol, Russian champion couldn't win over a runner-up from Italy.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||03/09/2019|
There is an archived thread at GS titled "Chan v. Hanyu 2015-16" which has *1639* posts.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||03/09/2019|
4LZ UR 3 loop UR
|by Anonymous||reply 28||03/09/2019|
150 lol her 3l3loop got - 0.15 GOE, what a joke
|by Anonymous||reply 29||03/09/2019|
3lo considered rotated. All 0 goe except for negative by judges 1-4-9..belarus, hungary and mexico
Judge 7, turkey, gave +1 to Shcherbakova's 4lz
|by Anonymous||reply 30||03/09/2019|
this is pathetic
|by Anonymous||reply 31||03/09/2019|
Congrats to Ting Cui on her bronze medal. The US regains 3 jr worlds spots for next year and 2 spots on every JGP in the fall.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||03/09/2019|
So you can now do 3 lutzes during one program? Two of them in combo? Only 1 axel?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||03/09/2019|
r33 Well, if you do a 4Lz and 2 3Lz, then yes, you can do 3 lutzes. In order to repeat a jump, for example a 3Lz, one of them must be in a combo but nothing says both of them can't be. The triple jump that Nathan Chen repeats is a 3T, both part of a combo. He also does 2 4Ts so altogether he does 4 toeloops. Hanyu and Fernandez had layouts with 3 salchows, two 4S and and one 3S. Hanyu habitually puts both his 3As in combos.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||03/09/2019|
That's so frustrating, JDC, that Fuji would be so open in disrespecting their double Olympic gold champion (and their #2 man). WTF? Just based on jealousy? And yet use him to promote the thing. At least they used a bit of footage of Hanyu at the camp - they used Mao to promote the show and never mentioned her at the camp - OR her 3A prowess? How can you do a long segment about Ito and the 3A, then show Kihira to demonstrate it, and not mention Mao Asada at all?
I'm a fan of both, but I'm almost relieved they also left out Uno along with Hanyu when they listed the "medalists" from the camp. I'll just tell myself they're so mega-mega-famous that nobody needs to be reminded of their medals. Wish I could believe that though. Is it what they call in the west - well UK/Australia anyway - the "tall poppy" syndrome, when the society doesn't really like for anybody to get super-famous and the instinct is to cut them down when they do?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||03/09/2019|
Shcherbakoba had two solo 2A's in a row - and they both counted - so that's ok? But only for axels?
|by Anonymous||reply 36||03/09/2019|
r36 I believe the "thou shalt only repeat it in a combo" rule is only for quads and triples.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||03/09/2019|
* oops now I see that Asada was shown in the footage of students at the camp. At least there's that - but leaving her out of the 3A discussion still pisses me off.
Thanks R37 - now I see (darkly through a smudged mirror). But sometimes I think I understand judging about as well as the judges do, when I look at range of scores for the same elements.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||03/09/2019|
Looking at Shcherbakova and Trusova's layouts, it's remarkable how the -3Lo combo frees up a jumping pass for a higher-rated double. Or a quad. Now, if they could do a 3A.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||03/09/2019|
Shimada officially confirmed he will be going senior next season and his sponsor this season was the insurance company his dad worked for before he died. Shimada was 13 when his dad passed away from lung cancer. Dad was the managing director at Ehime Bank, and director and managing executive of Sompo Japan insurance. He used his son’s photo for his facebook profile and gave updates on competitions in his timeline.
R35 I haven’t posted part 2 yet. Mao is treated like Japan’s sweetheart by almost everyone other than Fuji, so it’s not tall poppy syndrome. Most likely, there was some kind of agency or managing dispute a long time ago that involved Fuji and they’ve held a grudge. (Mao’s agency is IMG.) Probably the same for Hanyu as Fuji also treats him more poorly than the other stations. Uno’s treatment was interesting given the time devoted to the other USM skaters (Arakawa, Takahashi, and Kanako Murakami).
|by Anonymous||reply 40||03/09/2019|
Part 2 about Chokugeki:
Honda was asked to describe Arakawa's personality when she was younger. He said Arakawa was very mischievous when they trained together and despite her outward demeanor, liked to pull pranks. She’d make tiny holes in the ice and Honda once got stuck and fell. Their coach berated him thinking he was goofing off while Arakawa just laughed on. (I'm not sure why Honda chose to tell this particular story. He was supposed to make Arakawa sound like a warmer person.)
Second segment was about Takahashi. They talked about Honda just missing the podium due to a step out at the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics. Then they showed Takahashi, with Miyamoto (introduced as Mao and Hanyu’s choreographer) describing the beauty of his step sequences. A month before the Vancouver Olympics, Takahashi’s boots broke and his new boots were impeding his jumps and steps. (The boot company had changed the model he usually wore.) He tried over 10 different pairs, but couldn’t find one that properly fit. Honda (who was his jump coach) gave him a pair of his own he’d purchased for an ice show but hadn’t worn and they fit just right. Takahashi went on to win bronze at the Olympics and Honda said this was a particularly emotional moment because foreign coaches had always been saying that a Japanese man would never medal. They briefly showed Hanyu’s SP at Sochi and FS at Pyeongchang, then Uno’s FS and the Olympic podium, to illustrate the progress of the Japanese men since Vancouver. However, Honda said he didn’t receive anything in return from Takahashi even though Takahashi technically medaled with his boots.
Then in the final minutes of the show, Ito had been asked to choose what she thought was the most legendary Japanese figure skating performance. She chose Mao’s FS at Sochi. They made it sound like they were going to air the full program, but first they showed Mao’s falls in the SP. Then they showed her landing the jumps in her FS. That's all.
Some news sites have been reporting the complaints regarding Mao's treatment by the show. However, nothing about Hanyu, Uno, or Kihira who all received even less screen time, though I don't think Uno was used in the promos.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||03/09/2019|
What does Honda mean he didn't get anything in return? He got the gig as special judge at Super Japan Cup that neither Takahashi nor Arakawa wanted! lol
I'm wondering why they regurgitate these old anecdotes that we've already heard at least a dozen times (the boots story and Arakawa's penchant for pranks*) to promote this year's WC? Seems like they didn't have/communicate a clear concept of what the show was supposed to be about. Either use the history and development of figure skating in Japan since the days of Ito until present times as the main selling point or focus on current skaters with brief mention of their successful predecessors. The 2nd option would've made more sense, if they intended to generate excitement for worlds. But then they would've had to show more footage of Hanyu and they likely tried to avoid that, if there was a dispute with his management (his mom/Shirota?). All the politicking going on in the background is making my head spin. Wasn't Shirota responsible for the development of the Nobeyama Gasshuku project before she was demoted due to the misappropriation scandal she was involved in?
* At least they could've chosen the fun anecdote of when Arakawa and a bunch of other skaters shaved Dai's legs while he was asleep:
|by Anonymous||reply 42||03/10/2019|
@Benoitrichaud 6h6 hours ago Congratulation to my little boy Daniel Grassl for his first medal at his first Jr World 🇮🇹👍🏻🥉
Is Benoit the French Misha Ge? lol
|by Anonymous||reply 43||03/10/2019|
Did Stephane choreograph this Elvis Costello ex for Koshiro? He's 17 years old skating around to some sentimental ballad sniffing a piece of fabric for 4 minutes? Yuck...
|by Anonymous||reply 44||03/10/2019|
R43 Maybe I've just missed it, but I don't see Richaud overstepping in the way Ge has. He choreographed both of Grassl's programs and congratulated him. Didn't pretend to coach him through social media, try to eclipse Grassl's coaches or go on at length about their "journey" together (when he had been associated with Tomono for just a few months). Richaud's also worked a lot with Sakamoto and seems genuinely fond of her, so I'm not surprised he's raved about her on social media.
R42 The story about Honda's boots was new to me, so I found it amusing. The leg shaving thing with Dai was funny, but not the hole in the ice. It's dickish to find humor in someone falling and possibly getting injured. Lots of skaters have injured themselves seriously because of holes in the ice.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||03/10/2019|
44, that does seem weird for him to be skating around with a hanky. I can't help but get creepy vibes when I see Lambiel now after his weirdness with his other student, Deniss.
Congratulations to Tomoki on his win. Too bad about Camden and Alexei melting down. Alexei's future in the sport doesn't look promising. He needs to work on his basic skating and carriage. I've seen adult skaters with more grace and control.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||03/10/2019|
R46 same for Camden’s future. His spins moved so much it looked like a step sequence
|by Anonymous||reply 47||03/10/2019|
r46 I saw Krasnozhon live in 2015 at a JGP, and my impression was "dude's heavy, this Anna Karenina program really needs a different skater". He was 3rd in the FS after Yamamoto and Vasiljevs, and the difference between him and Vasiljevs was like night and day. I kinda kept an eye on him to see whether he'd improve, but the only thing that seemed to improve is that he occasionaly tries to be engaging. The rest - posture, carriage, spins etc seems worse. Somebody at FSU who was at Junior Worlds said that Krasnozhon skates like a truck driver, not a figure skater and I agree.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||03/10/2019|
Kolyada skated a new Chaplin ex at the jubilee for Mishin and Moskvina. Is he trying to copy Javier's whole career? I'm sorry, but I don't understand his popularity. Cringeworthy and corny af (not to mention how many other shitty Chaplin programs we've had to suffer through already).
|by Anonymous||reply 49||03/10/2019|
R49 I never want to see another Chaplin program again but otoh, it is nice to see Kolyada for once not looking like he's praying for his soul to leave his body.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||03/10/2019|
r49 What's with thast camera work...
You'd think an exhibition program would do a better job of building the movement to the music but Javi and Keegan 's programs were miles ahead in that regard.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||03/10/2019|
[quote]The leg shaving thing with Dai was funny, but not the hole in the ice. It's dickish to find humor in someone falling and possibly getting injured.
Exactly. It's weird they chose to portray her in such a bad light. Maybe USM's influence on which content gets a greenlight on Fuji TV isn't that extensive after all.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||03/10/2019|
r42 They just used worlds as an opportunity to promote their own skaters and added a little bit of Mao and Hanyu at the end to get people to tune into the show. They apparently showed Hanyu at the Nobeyama camp in one of the promos, so they had the permission and footage, but aired Murakami’s interview at camp during the actual show instead. Shirota is the one who started Nobeyama. I don’t think she had anything to do with Fuji’s antagonistic relationship with Hanyu, since it started a long time ago with Mao. I think it’s about Mao and Hanyu not joining USM and maybe turning down some exclusive Fuji offer, therefore becoming the competition. But some higher ups must’ve taken it very personally given the extreme way they’ve treated Mao and Hanyu in the past. They were also against Hanyu receiving the People’s Honor Award. R52 They used it to make Arakawa seem less rigid. They actually said, "Arakawa seems cold and mean on the outside but..." so I think it's more Fuji being tonedeaf, which they often are. Part of the show was devoted to her Olympic win. That was the purpose of the focus on the Nobeyama camp, which they also used to tie her and Takahashi to Ito.
R44 That ex is actually over two years old, before he moved to Lambiel, so he was 14/15 when it was choreographed. Could be Morozov’s, Miyamoto’s, or Sato’s. I guess he never got a new one choreographed. He didn’t perform at the GPF gala because he had nothing prepared.
Was Chaplin, Elvis, and Nightmare Before Christmas Kolyada's idea?
Trusova as Sia
|by Anonymous||reply 53||03/10/2019|
Thanks, R53. I'm glad to know Lambiel didn't choreograph that program, but it's even creepier to think of a 14/15 year old skating it. It's kind of odd that they couldn't come up with something else after all this time.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||03/10/2019|
Oh, and Rabbitt finally got his wish. He's skating in a show in Japan at the annual Kyoto Figure Skating Festival with Tomono, Shiraiwa, Tokura (Oda's big girl), Sasahara and some others. March 31st. It's free.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||03/10/2019|
Hanyu apparently has a surprise new endorsement: Kose's Sekkisei skincare line. After all the chocolate, bath salts, mattresses etc, this is an endorsement that actually suits him considering how nice his skin is.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||03/10/2019|
TSL 3/10 Jr Worlds – Part 1 – Dave thinks the original report that Kostornaia fractured her fibia is correct, but Danlil changed the story due to talk of Sambo overtraining. 6 They’re bored w/Trusova vs Shcherb but D thinks Trusova is built like a little gymnast and has a better chance of keeping her jumps – he can already see Shcherb torquing her body into jumps plus she already broke her leg– similar problems as Zag and Med have. They find Shcerb more musical but Trusova’s body’s stronger. 9 D compared their components. 11 Danlil says all 3 (Trusova, Kostornaia, Shcherbakoba) are going to seniors and they’re all working on the 3A this summer. 16 Ting – beautiful arms and unlike Russians, great posture. D thinks she shd hurry and work on knees/ edges (maybe w/Lori) because there’s a small window for it. She cd be the next Kostner. You can see what happens when you miss the window like with Krosnozhon and Max Aaron. 19 D’s heard they want Ting to go to Raf. 20 D fussing about Tom Z’s failings. Ting hasn’t spent time in Colorado since Jr Worlds. 21 Both fussing about Facebook/Instagram self promotion of skaters/clubs. 23 Hanna Harrell has potential/needs to work on SS. 26 Mao/Yuna/Vancouver reminiscing. 33 Sinitsyna – weird jumps/has potential. 35 Young You should straighten her legs.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||03/10/2019|
TSL 3/10 Jr Worlds – Part 2 - 37 UNIVERSIADE. Jon thinks Mai is improving. Her triple-triples are impressive. 39 Tursy resurgence interesting. (It’s “Eteri’s FU to BO”) 43 Denis Ten had quite a nice apartment in LA so Kazakhstan can come up w/the money when they want to. 46 Med v Tuk. 56 D talking about ¾ siblings – like when two Jackson brothers (Randy & Jermaine) had kids w/the same woman ?? Then “Leaving Neverland” gossip. 1Hr Then about “Losers” about Surya Bonaly and her really bad SS, even worse than Max Aaron! Lots about Surya. 1:13 D & J are judging the Nagano Olys for their Patreon viewers. (I skipped ice dance and pairs) 1.21 MEN JUNIORS. Gogo, hates to lose, dull samey costumes. He stabbed his leg and kept going! What a fighter! Camden – J thinks it’s mental; D thinks it’s Tom Z prob not having him do full runthrus & he needs a sport psychologist, before it’s too late like it became for Jeremy. 1.33 Gracie said Tomoki was the only skater yelled at by Ourashov more than she was. He said Tammy and Tom must hate him (Tomoki) – same rink and they were so close to winning. Tomoki’s the little engine that could/nice skating. 1.36 The Russian Roman Savosin: good jumper. J: He has weird looking coaches. They love Danielian – lots of potential. Another who shd do full runthrus. They think he cd be a superstar. 1.42 They’re wondering what kind of name Grassl is – he needs SS but has talent. They prefer Matteo’s skating. Eteri was not as Jr Worlds (or Universiade). 1.45 Coaches not going is a good sign – lesser coaches want face time. Then a gabfest about adult coloring (Dave shows off his work) and Golden Girls’ episodes. END
|by Anonymous||reply 58||03/10/2019|
"Because we are the people who are alive,we need to live life fully,to those who passed away,and to those who are living in pain now,I strongly believe we need to live in a manner that we can be proud of."-Yuzuru Hanyu
His voice made me sad Today is Tōhoku earthquake day 3.11
|by Anonymous||reply 59||03/11/2019|
Are senior girls allowed to attempt quads in SP ? I'd like to see Trusova add 4T to SP layout next season. 4T is her best quad jump so far( high and the most stable quad)
|by Anonymous||reply 60||03/11/2019|
R58, adult coloring? What is it Dave does exactly? Thanks for the recaps!
R60, women can't do quads in the SP yet. It'd be great if Trusova could get a 3Axel to put that in the SP.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||03/11/2019|
[quote] adult coloring? What is it Dave does exactly?
He buys coloring books and uses colored pencils I guess - but maybe crayons - to color the way children do. He has a Golden Girls' themed one. Oh, and he also wants to get a Victorian doll house to decorate because his mother would never let him get one when he was a child.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||03/11/2019|
R59. Thanks for sharing. Makes me sad too. I can't even imagine what he and others went through that day. So many lost their lives. We are lucky that Hanyu is still here and skating.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||03/11/2019|
Fingers crossed that Hanyu will be inspired to emulate more than just Plush's programs and haircut.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||03/11/2019|
r64 French stalker! But why was she crowdfunding for new skating boots? She’s still a student but started figure skating last year, went to ACI and half of the GP, going to TCC again this summer to stalk Hanyu, claims to be friends with the owner of the largest figure skating store in Paris, who might arrange for her to interview Hanyu and Uno for Patinage. (I’ll be shocked if the Patinage job turns out to be true.)
Whoever leaked about Hanyu and Kose in December on 5ch was right. Not that he needs the money, but the Sekkisei products are hugely popular. He said he's glad they used his performances in the CM. He doesn't actually like to act in commercials. Sekkisei:
|by Anonymous||reply 65||03/11/2019|
R65 I hate to be bitchy about a 20 something rando, but I'm gonna: you have money to go galavanting around the world to eavesdrop on and stalk figure skaters/coaches (not just Briand, but also Fernandez, Lambiel and Vasiļjevs to name a few), attend various camps at exclusive clubs even though you're a recreational skater, but you want to crowdfund to buy an expensive pair of boots? I don't understand kids these days.
I'm surprised a skincare line hasn't snapped up Hanyu before, given his frauen fanbase. I wonder if Hanyu's careful about his image and doesn't want to appear frivolous or vain - it's funny that he tries to tie in his philosophy regarding pursuing beauty in skating with the product, but he doesn't actually talk about using the product or his skin care regimen.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||03/11/2019|
r65 I suspect he doesn't have a skin care regimen. But maybe he'll start one now, because otherwise that fresh-faced look will be gone in a few years, and it'll be bye bye endorsement.
However, commercials often rather make comparisons or imply rather than mention using the product directly, it's less heavy handed. Though that commercial could use a 3 seconds image of Hanyu putting that cream into his luggage next to his skates or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||03/11/2019|
I can't remember the product but I love the one where he was ironing - oh yeah, it was colorful detergent "pods" - they also show him doing laundry before he takes out a white shirt and starts ironing it, all while wearing an apron. That one was fun! Better than the chocolate-making or the head-measuring for pillows (and sleeping on the magic mattress or whatever)
|by Anonymous||reply 68||03/11/2019|
R66 Supposedly Kose has made multiple offers over the years but he's refused them until now.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||03/11/2019|
Kose is a sponsor of Team Japan too.
I'm guessing Hanyu feels the end approaching and is looking to the future -- he's going to need some cash to finance any future editions of Continues with Wings, and though he can't always depend on his ankles he can depend on his skin for a while longer.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||03/11/2019|
R69 Good. I hope he's making a bundle out of it. Is this first new endorsement he's picked up since the Olympics?
R70 I highly doubt Hanyu has to finance CWW out of pocket. That cash cow will fund itself and then some whenever he decides to take it up again. Hanyu has the gift of gab and the talk show segments of CWW made it very interesting to me, even though I usually find the ice shows corny and boring.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||03/11/2019|
ANA and Kose are also collaborating on amenities for their business class starting this month, so maybe that’s why he said yes.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||03/11/2019|
Long but heartwarming interview with Tracy Wilson. Here's a link to the transcript that you can use 'search' on if you're just interested in one skater or whatever. She's so Zen.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||Last Tuesday at 5:22 AM|
Yuzuru: "The Olympic SEIMEI was about how to communicate the beauty of Japanese things to the world" "It’s when non-Japanese people speak Japanese to me saying things like: Konnichiwa, Arigatou or Sayonara. Surprisingly, Japan seems to be of interest them. Even if it is very basic Japanese, when anyone speaks to me in Japanese I feel proud that I am Japanese."
|by Anonymous||reply 74||Last Tuesday at 10:11 AM|
How did ESPN figure out Hanyu's endorsements? They have him at $13.41M
|by Anonymous||reply 75||Last Tuesday at 10:40 AM|
Or, ESPN could just be guestimating and no one has a clue what Hanyu's worth: "Now for the fine print: If we could not find accurate endorsement figures, we estimated an athlete's endorsement dollars based on the search, social and endorsement data for all athletes under review. For Chinese athletes, we used the Baidu search score and Weibo social numbers because Google and Western social platforms have been blocked in China."
|by Anonymous||reply 76||Last Tuesday at 11:01 AM|
R70 I don't think Yuzu care much about money, the man gave all prize money from 2 OGM to charity right?
If he want to have money without doing anything, either competing or doing those cms, all he has to do is selling his skates, gloves or whatever he want to sell. Now his skates was sold at 64,000 usd for charity
|by Anonymous||reply 77||Last Tuesday at 1:04 PM|
R77 Kose announced they will be donating some of their Sekkisei proceeds from last December to January to “Mori ha umi no koibito (mori-umi. org).” The NPO’s latest project is reforesting the devastated areas of the Tohoku region. The Hanyu-Kose deal was leaked in December, so that’s probably not a coincidence.
Russian pairs are already in Japan but down in Fukuoka. Someone said the rest of the Russian team will arrived in Tokyo on the 16th.
Medvedeva should replace her manager with Tracy. Med and Ge unfollowed Tuk on IG yesterday. There was some kind of meme contest on VK for Tuk and maybe they didn’t like the memes Tuk was reposting? Anyway, Med later started following Tuk again. Sometime between or after, some Med fans began harassing Tuk on her account.
Meanwhile, Med’s manager immediately told Russian media Med never unfollowed Tuk. She can’t follow or unfollow anyone because she’s too busy preparing for Worlds and she doesn’t use IG before competitions. Maybe it was a technical error by staff.
If he had to comment on it, the manager should’ve just said he messed up and accidentally unfollowed Tuk since he claimed to personally run Med’s social media accounts during his last big interview. I don’t have an IG, so I don’t know if Ge is also following Tuk again, but Tuk never unfollowed both.
Statement from Med’s manager:
|by Anonymous||reply 78||Last Tuesday at 2:53 PM|
r78 Drama! Misha is not following Tuk. I didn't pay attention to whether he did before. I hope it gets even pettier. Someone check to see if Lazukin's been unfollowed!!! Won't anyone think of Andrei's feelings?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||Last Tuesday at 3:02 PM|
I looked at Tuk's twitter and instagram and the memes were just self-deprecating stuff. I don't see the offense.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||Last Tuesday at 3:09 PM|
Hanyu is writing blog posts for Kose! Here's one: "I like pussy. They are healing/rejuvenating because they are soft and fluffy. However, I can also be healed/rejuvenated by other living things that rise with genuine/honest enthusiasm [at the touch of my hand or my eager tongue]."
Hopefully, that Dirt Czar isn't around to nitpick my translation. So annoying!!
|by Anonymous||reply 81||Last Tuesday at 3:49 PM|
R81. Lmao! I hope this is something Hanyu continues doing. I love hearing and reading what he says.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||Last Tuesday at 4:21 PM|
R81 We know its wrong because obviously Hanyu likes D like Javi's.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||Last Tuesday at 5:06 PM|
HANYU LIKES CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... sorry for yelling
|by Anonymous||reply 84||Last Tuesday at 5:35 PM|
D as in DOG. But I was wrong because Javi actually has a cat. I meant to say Hanyu likes C...ock-- I mean, Cats... like Javi's.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||Last Tuesday at 7:04 PM|
I can't fucking believe following/unfollowing someone on social media is something a manager has to address. The whole drama belongs in middle school.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||Last Wednesday at 12:22 AM|
Is Yuzuru going to demonstrate the use of skincare products on this doll?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||Last Wednesday at 4:52 AM|
Agreed R86. I can't believe people even take the time to notice that stuff.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||Last Wednesday at 5:35 AM|
Kovtun has withdrawn from Worlds due to medical reasons. Andrei Lazukin will take his place.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||Last Wednesday at 8:05 AM|
Kind of feels like karma...well, I never liked Kovtun. I knew his "comeback" was going to be a bust.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||Last Wednesday at 8:10 AM|
I wonder if Kovtun's "medical reasons" were caused by his 14th place at Europeans. I doubt Lazukin will do much better but I suppose better to take a chance on something new than trying again with a proven choker
|by Anonymous||reply 91||Last Wednesday at 12:49 PM|
First skaters announced for Dreams on Ice 2019. Men: Kazuki Tomono, Tatsuya Tsuboi, Shun Sato, Sora Tarumi. Ladies: Yuna Shiraiwa, Yuhana Yokoi, Tomoe Kawabata, Nana Araki, Rika Tejima. Synchro: Jingu Ice Messengers. June 28-30 at the Kose Shin-Yokohama Skate Center.
Fuji TV (@online_on_ice) will be live streaming pairs, ice dance, groups 1-3/4 for ladies and men SP, the opening ceremony, warm up areas and K&C on their Worlds website. (The K&C stream shows the entire K&C which you can’t see on broadcast.) Should be region-free. Times are approximations in Japan time.
March 20 (Wednesday)
10:30AM Pairs SP
2:15PM: Opening Ceremony
3:05PM Ladies SP (Groups 1-4), Ladies SP Warm up Area, K&C
March 21 (Thursday)
10:30AM Pairs FS, Medal Ceremony
4:00PM Men’s SP (Groups 1-3), Men SP Warmup Area, K&C
March 22 (Friday)
12PM Ice Dance RD
5:30PM Ladies FS Warmup Area, K&C
March 23 (Saturday)
12:30PM Ice Dance FD, Medal Ceremony
5:30PM Men FS Warmup Area, K&C
Commentators: Takeshi Honda (Men), Shizuka Arakawa (Ladies), Miyamoto Kenji (Ice Dance), Narumi Takahashi (Pairs). Guest commentators: Takehito Mura (Men), Kanako Murakami (Ladies)
Fuji Worlds Website (video will appear on page during streaming time):
|by Anonymous||reply 92||Last Wednesday at 3:27 PM|
R81 Glad to emerge from a 5 day blackout to find this thread is as fun as ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM|
R92 oohh, is this the first time K. Murakami is commentating? I can't wait for when a jelly and territorial Arakawa starts leaking anonymous stories about how sloppy, old, fat and barren Murakami's been looking.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM|
I'm so glad Mura is the secondary commentator instead of Kozuka. He was such a good sport when Yuzu was bullying him into trying a spread-eagle 3A in CWW.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||Last Wednesday at 5:27 PM|
r95 Mura just seems like a nicer person in general. Glad that little bitch Kozuka orgied himself out of a job.
R92 Thanks for the streaming link. So glad we won't have to scramble for live streams for at least some of the events. Apparently, the ISU will be streaming the competition through Eurovision Sports Live for countries that don't own broadcasting rights. Anyone know which countries don't own broadcasting rights (ie which country I should set my VPN to)?
|by Anonymous||reply 96||Last Wednesday at 5:41 PM|
r96 Singapore used to work for me, but also try South America.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||Last Thursday at 12:24 AM|
Tamura in full make-up - enough for Ru Paul's show. God, he's beautiful!
|by Anonymous||reply 98||Last Thursday at 1:56 AM|
I'm not a fan of Kovtun's skating but am sorry he got injured. Lazukin might end up placing about the same. A shame Voronov wasn't on the alternate's list. Is he injured too?
|by Anonymous||reply 99||Last Thursday at 4:10 AM|
Yes, Voronov apparently tore a ligament in his knee.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||Last Thursday at 5:32 AM|
Time zone converters for the Men's SP and FS. Totally ungodly hours for me, but likely for the best. I think I'm going to quickly check in here first before I watch the whole thing. Can't stand the suspense.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||Last Thursday at 8:38 AM|
Sui was injured in a practice fall after a show on Feb 15. S/H didn't start training again until last week.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||Last Thursday at 9:22 AM|
R101. I will have to watch the replay on NBC gold. There's just no way for me at that time. People have to work lol. I will stay off any social media until I watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||Last Thursday at 9:42 AM|
I can't face it live either. I foolishly watched the practice at Rostelecom where Yuzuru injured his ankle again. I have NBC and NBCSN, so I assume they'll show the main events - the next day or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||Last Thursday at 10:50 AM|
TCC just had a sendoff for Orser, Tracy, Ghislain, and the Worlds skaters, except Hanyu didn't appear to be there. I think the photos have been deleted by the original account (Mexican skater at TCC).
Ge said he’s going to Worlds on Jackie’s twitter. He also hinted he’s performing at the gala on IG. Maybe he deleted his original post about worlds because no one was supposed to know about the gala at the time.
Hanyu’s junior high school classmates talk about him tonight at 6:10PM on NHK Sendai’s Teremasamune. Clip at @nhk_sendai.
Zhou is in Osaka.
Kozuka is going to appear on “Koujou he ikou” (@koujouheikou) next Saturday. They’re doing a mini-drama special on Kozuka Blades on TV Aichi (local broadcast only).
R94 She’s done it many times now. I think it’ll be like nationals where she did commentary for the early groups and Arakawa did the last two groups. Murakami is also doing the commentary for the exhibition.
R98 Hide from X-Japan:
|by Anonymous||reply 105||Last Thursday at 2:25 PM|
People speculated that Hanyu was standing between Briand and Cha (you can see a tuft of hair).
|by Anonymous||reply 106||Last Thursday at 2:41 PM|
Then someone found this picture.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||Last Thursday at 2:41 PM|
R107 Hanyu looks like shit. Kose should pull the deal.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||Last Thursday at 2:43 PM|
Surprise twist: Hanyu was actually the one taking the photo.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||Last Thursday at 2:46 PM|
Ge is going to Saitama also because The vote between him and Redford will take place there.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||Last Thursday at 3:06 PM|
[R105] The Mexican skater didn't delete anything. It's in her Story.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||Last Thursday at 3:19 PM|
r106 Poor Lee! Everyone forgets about him. Me included.
R110 Thank you. So it was inevitable. Strange that he deleted the original post in that case, but now I remember he also didn't allow comments on it. Maybe it was to avoid questions about the gala.
Coupe de Printemps today.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||Last Thursday at 3:21 PM|
R111 Thanks. Is there a reason why people aren't crediting the original accounts on twitter?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||Last Thursday at 3:27 PM|
Checked PH and sorry ??? What tf with people crying over Hanyu not being there ?
|by Anonymous||reply 114||Last Thursday at 6:34 PM|
R114. I don't go to PH. What happened with Hanyu not being where? I'm lost. sorry.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||Last Thursday at 6:37 PM|
R114 Are you talking about Hanyu not being in the TCC Worlds Send Off pic? I just checked and seems like people are bored and having a bit of fun speculating where he is. Kind of like when we're bored and post ass pics.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||Last Thursday at 7:16 PM|
More on Sui/Han. I guess Han's injuries are getting worse too. Wtf??? Are they going to last through the quad?
|by Anonymous||reply 117||Last Thursday at 8:30 PM|
"Hello everyone this is Yuzuru Hanyu. It's Friday, the latter half of the week. What are everyone's plans on their days off? When I have nothing on, I play games a lot. To me, it's 'my time' to restore my energy. Hope everyone has a wonderful break."
|by Anonymous||reply 118||Last Friday at 12:52 AM|
'When I have nothing on, I play games a lot.' Hmm...OK, Yuzu, whatever you say... It definitely sounds like fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||Last Friday at 1:40 AM|
"It's Friday, the latter half of the week."
Stop the press at that breaking news.
What will we learn tomorrow? That the sun rises in the east? That it's windy? That he likes listening to music?
|by Anonymous||reply 120||Last Friday at 7:50 AM|
Today is Saturday. A different day of the week from Friday. But do you know what will stay the same no matter the day of the week? DL will still be filled with shallow, ungrateful cunts who don't care about my views on meaningful issues like cats, games and days of the week, and only concern themselves with my sweet sweet voluptuous ass, that's pert and soft like a baby's bottom, but legal to touch. You can't satisfy everyone I guess. But here's a gif to keep you warm til you see me next at an airport with my creepy stalker(s) in tow. HUGZZZ & LUV
|by Anonymous||reply 121||Last Friday at 8:41 AM|
R120 Excuse me, but we learned a lot from his riveting personal statement. First of all, that he plays a lot of games naked. Secondly, he needs serious "me time" to "restore his energy". The one thing I actually wish he included was a video/detailed photographs of said naked game playing and/or "me time" for the purposes of scientific research.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||Last Friday at 9:32 AM|
Is this photoshopped or did Gabby loot Med's shit shake supply?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||Last Friday at 9:59 AM|
r123 It's not on her instagram so chances are it isn't photoshopped. She looks thinner than Med in that photo,mdefinitely stole the shake from her. I didn't realize she was so short.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||Last Friday at 10:16 AM|
R124 Unfortunately, it originated from Gabby's Instagram, so likely ps. Someone tell her she looks fine and doesn't need to do this shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||Last Friday at 10:19 AM|
r125 Hopefully, she's just sucking in her stomach in that photo. I guess we'll know when we see her on the tv broadcast.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||Last Friday at 10:29 AM|
Med's legs look skinnier. Gabby is showing good muscle on her thighs.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||Last Friday at 10:37 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 128||Last Friday at 11:17 AM|
Old Junhwan Cha's interview with the Olympic Channel. His English is impressive.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||Last Friday at 3:32 PM|
And here an interview from a month ago, after one of those competitions his fed made hi. do, maybe it was posted before. Basically he says he's been injured since Skate Canada but had no time to rest, and that his boots are falling apart at an alarming rate.
He's got a very pleasant manner of speaking and those cheekbones are to die for - though a haircut of some sort might be in order.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||Last Friday at 3:37 PM|
R97 Thanks so much. I'll try those countries.
R129 Cha moved to Canada when he was 13, so I guess I'm not surprised.
R130 This is totally annoying. Poor Cha has had to go back and forth for a million national competitions when there is no other South Korean man on his level. Don't know if I'm misremembering, but I think he's in Korea now to check his injury.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||Last Friday at 4:21 PM|
The skater who posted the ig story at r106 said Hanyu isn't in the picture because he was already on his way to Japan. When will we see Sadako and her fab mask?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||Last Friday at 4:40 PM|
Jun's English is actually about what you'd expect for someone who moved to Canada at a young age. I was more impressed with Eunsoo Lim's interview with TSL after only a few months of living in the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||Last Friday at 5:27 PM|
Useful time zone conversion chart for all events
|by Anonymous||reply 134||Last Friday at 6:48 PM|
Mainstream news is reporting that Takeyama has already notified JOC executives of his intention to retire in June. The board of directors will be meeting on Tuesday to discuss possible replacements. It’s between Yamashita and Hashimoto with Yamashita in the lead. Takeda was absent from the Olympic Council meeting in Bangkok earlier this month.
r132 I was wondering if the latest photo was taken at a different time and Hanyu had already left. They lose a day when they fly from Toronto to Japan to the time zone change. The rest of the TCC team is really cutting it close if they haven’t left yet. Practice starts 8AM on Monday.
The coach/choreographer has returned:
[quote]From staff: @mishageofficial has arrived at Japan to attend three skaters as their coach/choreographer at ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2019 in Saitama. Also, he will work for other things. Hongyi Chen (CHN) SP/FP Eliska Brezinova (CZE) SP/FP Evgenia Medvedeva (RUS) SP
Sort of sneak preview of the Worlds opening ceremony with Mura and sopranista Okamoto:
|by Anonymous||reply 135||Last Friday at 6:48 PM|
Takeda, not Takeyama. Sorry.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||Last Friday at 6:57 PM|
R136 Is Ge the coach for any of these skaters? With Tomono, I think you mentioned there was at least an actual arrangement to help with the coaching.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||Last Friday at 7:18 PM|
R137 I said that Ge's deal with the JSF was a packaged deal that included choreographing for a number of skaters (mainly juniors and novices) in addition to Tomono, which is supposedly for two seasons. Ge claimed on TSL that the JSF asked him to help improve Tomono's spins and skating skills in the process, which he interpreted that as becoming Tomono's coach. Maybe he doesn't know how other choreographers work or wasn't aware of how often Japanese skaters meet with their choreographers throughout the season, but he hasn't worked with Tomono any more than Miyahara and Kihira have worked with Dickson, or Richaud has with Sakamoto. Probably less in Richaud's case. There's an interview with him and Tomono that just came out in Quadruple magazine that might tell more, although you can't completely trust Ge's word. Thinking back, despite all the IG posts, he didn't use the word "coach" until Skate Canada, almost half a year after he started "coaching" Tomono. Ge has only been referred to as Tomono's SP choreographer on the Japanese side. I don't know about these worlds skaters but I assume that's just Ge's interpretation again.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||Last Friday at 8:21 PM|
R138 Thanks for the clarification. Okay then, sounds like Ge's just an insufferable twat.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||Last Friday at 8:44 PM|
Why so much hate for Ge ?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||Last Friday at 9:19 PM|
R140 Because I don't know. Always I try to put positive into the world, but sometimes, negative just come back to you from unhappy people. What can you do? I tell my students including two-time World Champion and special artistry genius from Russia Evgenia Medvedeva who is also coached by Brian Orser at TCC along beside two-time Olympic Champion *somebody*, just keep to work hard, grind hard, striving for excellent, and you will succeed! Some of my students KAZUKI needing to take this message a little more to their heart KAZUKI but we will work on it. Love and light!
|by Anonymous||reply 141||Last Saturday at 5:09 AM|
R141 Clearly, you're just misunderstood, Misha. You're my light and inspiration. Hopefully, you can be my coach someday, even though I don't skate and never intend to learn. It will be a perfect match!!
|by Anonymous||reply 142||Last Saturday at 6:29 AM|
R141 Thank you Misha. I shedded my tears reading your post. Such an honor for Yuzuru to have a friend like you ( and Evgenia Medvedeva) who support him through all the ups and downs. Please don't care about some crazies Fanyus, they all envy you for your wonderful friendship with Yuzuru. I miss your skating and I LOVE your choreo. Please do choreo for Yuzuru !!! Looking forward to your collab with Yuzuru in the future. Please upload trio pictures too. I always support you. Go go go Misha. On behalf of Yuzuru, his fans and Team Japan, thank you so much. Fanyus, share my post to spread positive energy.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||Last Saturday at 6:44 AM|
R143 I've actually seen posts like that around the webs. Specially the 'spread positive energy' part.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||Last Saturday at 7:41 AM|
we are ignoring Coupe du Printemps...
|by Anonymous||reply 145||Last Saturday at 10:30 AM|
If I were a skater, I would want Daniil G. to give me private lessons. The guy is so handsome.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||Last Saturday at 10:39 AM|
Ok, I just saw the ranking of Junior Synchronized Skating Worlds... a selection of the names of the teams..
TEAM HOT SHIVERS JUNIOR
TEAM JEANNE D'ARC JUNIOR
TEAM SEASIDE JUNIOR
TEAM ZAGREB SNOWFLAKES JUNIOR
TEAM ILLUMINETTES JUNIOR
TEAM GOLDEN ROSES JUNIOR
|by Anonymous||reply 147||Last Saturday at 11:39 AM|
Team Jeanne D'Arc? Who skate to popular hits about teenage martyrdom?
|by Anonymous||reply 148||Last Saturday at 12:00 PM|
R148 We are fabolous
|by Anonymous||reply 149||Last Saturday at 1:13 PM|
TSL 3/16/19 Worlds Preview – Part 1. 3 Dave (very manic this episode) starts off by excitedly showing off his Itsuki/Shoma book, sent by “one of our favorite viewers” – he shows off some photos from book, then onto lots about Aljona Savchenko, hiking in ‘Hello Kitty’ pants etc... 8 Her first husband Ingo, a real jerk, was in the Stasi and he spied on Katarina Witt for East Germany! 9 Nam’s last name is pronounced Win. 22 PAIRS. Will Sui be healthy? – off ice 10 days since 4CC. J: It’s Vanessa/Morgan’s to lose even if S/H have finer qualities. D: It’s now or never for J/C. 32 D: Peng has sex appeal/Ashley Cain has none: he hates their 1920s theme short and wonders if they can make top 10 to get the US 2 places next yr. 33: D misses Alexa and loves her energy, she’s exciting – J wonders why she blocked him in Instagram. 38 ICE DANCE. D: May be the deepest discipline. D: P/C win by landslide. 41 C/B vs H/D. 42: D says TAT really did good work in fixing the vote for Med. [somewhere in first part,Dave said he had to learn to run without his limp wrists flopping all over]
|by Anonymous||reply 150||Last Saturday at 4:35 PM|
TSL 3/16/19 – Part 2. 54 MEN. Chen’s been sick and didn’t get to go work w/Raf. He’s gonna go for clean, not for broke, and he’s using his Nationals’ layout. 57 Chen isn’t 100% sure he’ll be taking all his classes next yr. 58 Hanyu: it’s good for him that he had the time to heal for 2 mos in one spot w/his team whereas Nathan’s had more indecision.“It comes down to what he’s risking in this chess game against Nathan.” 59.30 Uno: J: This will be the rare event where it all depends on the skating that evening so it’ll be exciting – Uno’s right there w/other two – D: Jin cd be a spoiler as he seems to be on an upward trajectory. 1.01 Zhou has been with Mie Hamada & it’ll be interesting if she’s in K&C w/him whichD says has been discussed. 1.23 They’d much rather watch Aliev than Samarin. 1.03 Jason – D: How will he do without Kori. Will he do the fake quad? Should he? 1.05.50: D is giving Hanyu an edge (in Japan/they’ll want Hanyu to win “he’s the king”) J: “It’s just a matter of his health. If they both skate clean, I think there’s no question that Hanyu will win.”
|by Anonymous||reply 151||Last Saturday at 4:37 PM|
TSL 3/16/19 – Part 3. 1.06 LADIES. D wonders why they haven’t yanked Gabby; he thinks they should have. Her situation has become alarming: she photoshopped half of her body out of the group photo on IG. J doesn’t look forward to watching her. 1.08 American girls. Can they get 3 spots? 1.10 Bradie shd do lutz-toe but will she? If she goes for lutz-loop again and misses it, a lot of ppl will want to wring her neck. But her coaches are inexperienced so may not advise well. They mention again they want Ashley to make a comeback, and she or Ting cd get that 3rd spot. 1.12 D: The spoiler will be Tursy (if she does quad). She’s improved w/Eteri though they don’t like her skating: juniorish, bent legs but her choreo is much better than it was with DW. 1.14 D: Where is Tursy in Eteri’s pyramid? (Trusova is the top – she was the only one to get a phone call from Eteri at Jr Worlds). D thinks Tursy’s in the 2nd row because Zag has just been “a problem for them” - a lot of pressure’s on Alina. 1.16 D loves Japanese fluff piece that implies her dog plays around on ice during practice, all fun and games. 1.17 D tells Doug Haw to shut up & not tell him again that Med will win (D doesn’t think TAT has enough money for that) – D: the Japanese may take top 3 (but Zag cd make it) END
|by Anonymous||reply 152||Last Saturday at 4:36 PM|
Very uncomfortable TSL- Jonathan rolling his eyes and not engaging half the time
|by Anonymous||reply 153||Last Saturday at 7:01 PM|
What was up with him? He looked like he was jumping out of his skin. He's talked before about rehab for an Adderall addiction (also problems with alcohol but he didn't seem drunk - just wired - like a cat on a hot tin roof ;) I shouldn't scoff though if the guy's got problems. Jonathan was very gentle with him - but had his hands full keeping a relatively even keel with Dave all over the map.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||Yesterday at 12:36 AM|
R152 Thank you. Your post prompted me to check on Doug Haw and he and Orser were in Vegas together earlier this month.
The FS Branch conference is on Tuesday, same day the JOC board is having their meeting.
Part 2 of the Plushenko/Sasha games in the last 30 minutes of “Honoo no Taiikukai” yesterday. I haven’t seen any uploads yet, so I don’t have anything to link to right now, but they showed Sasha’s room and visited Plushenko’s academy which looked very fancy.
Sasha had the fan drawing from FaOI last year of him, Hanyu, and Plushenko, on display in his bedroom. Sasha said he likes Hanyu because his skating is beautiful and he’s really nice to him.
Angels of Plushenko has a big training room above the rink, ballet room, meeting and banquet room, a restaurant, and some fancy hotel rooms. Sasha practices 5 hours a day. (It’s 9-10 hours a day for the 9 year olds at Sambo, so that might be standard for elite skating clubs in Russia, though I don’t see how their little bodies are going to last.) There are 100+ students.
Back in Tokyo, Plushenko and Sasha did the skating obstacle course together and like Zagitova and Medvedeva, failed the first time and finished it on their second try. (Sasha tripped the first time.) As a reward, the show took them to the Bic Camera in Yurakucho where Sasha was allowed to choose whatever toy he wanted. He chose a bunch of Takara Tomy minicars (they’re less than 500 yen each) and insisted on carrying the shopping bag himself. For some reason he knew the Japanese word for “Don’t worry, it’s OK.”
Sasha also came out in a Cheburashka costume and gave the Honda sisters one of his creepy “ChebuSashka” dolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||Yesterday at 1:04 AM|
I don't know how to judge - how is Jason's Japanese? (at the airport) Is it comparable to Yuzuru's English? (love his little waddling run)
|by Anonymous||reply 156||Yesterday at 2:58 AM|
Thread pet and esteemed Coach/Choreographer Misha Ge, Esquire, is there for his three students.
Benoit is also there - he posted his badge on IG, which said "Coach/Choreographer"
|by Anonymous||reply 157||Yesterday at 4:14 AM|
I hear Hanyu’s ice show starts this week.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||Yesterday at 8:01 AM|
Where is this gorgeous ass..? I am starting to worry.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||Yesterday at 8:35 AM|
I want to pat that butt. With love.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||Yesterday at 9:02 AM|
Anyone else nervous for worlds? I'm so nervous I don't think I can watch live. We haven't seen Hanyu in months. It would be nice to see him win this competition. I just worry about Hanyu so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||Yesterday at 11:04 AM|
Don't worry, they won't give URs in Japan.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||Yesterday at 11:30 AM|
For Hanyu, of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||Yesterday at 11:31 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 164||Yesterday at 11:42 AM|
Thank you! Staring at this delicious peach eases my nervousness...
|by Anonymous||reply 165||Yesterday at 11:51 AM|
First practice in about 3 hours and still no Hanyu- he’s such a tease.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||Yesterday at 12:41 PM|
British skater Philip Harris announces retirement
Peak of his career
22th at 2016 Worlds
24th at 2018 Worlds
13th at 2018 Euros
15th at 2015 Euros
18th at 2016 Euros
1 GP (2018 Finland)
won Mladost Trophy 2013 ...whatever it is...
Hi everyone! The time has finally come to hang up my boots and officially retire as an athlete ⛸ I was waiting to announce anything because if none of our current senior men qualified for the World Championships I was going to make the trip and represent the country one last time, however, a huge congratulations are in order for @pj_hallam for recently qualifying and saving me the trouble! Your hard work has gone a long way and you deserve it buddy, have an amazing time in Japan! Since the #isugrandprix event in #Helsinki I have backed away from the competitive scene and I will now continue to put all my focus into coaching and choreography full time. Of course, I will still train on occasion, I always will, and I’m always available to perform if the opportunity arose, but the pressure is off and it’s time to relax. Looking back from where I started in Blackpool it has been one hell of a ride! National titles, major championships, injuries, travelling the world and meeting so many incredible people just to name a few. I will be forever grateful of the journey I’ve had, and for the people involved. We have been on this journey together and I really do love you all! ❤️❤️ It’s time to wave goodbye to these moments for now, and move on to the next stage of my career ��������#thankyounext .
|by Anonymous||reply 167||Yesterday at 1:16 PM|
Who will retire after Saitmana?
Or will Virtanen finally stop?
|by Anonymous||reply 168||Yesterday at 1:20 PM|
World men planned programs out. Hanyu- Helsinki layout with 4A-3A
|by Anonymous||reply 169||Yesterday at 1:24 PM|
Oops 4T-3A- Freudian slip
|by Anonymous||reply 170||Yesterday at 1:26 PM|
Feds drawn for judging panels
Men: Canada, China, Taipei, Croatia, Czech Republic, France, Georgia, Israel, Mexico, Poland, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey
Ladies: Austria, China, Taipei, Czech Republic, Estonia, Germany, Great Britain, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Norway, South Korea, Slovenia, USA
Pairs: Australia, Austria, Canada, China, Germany, Great Britain, Hungary, Israel, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Russia, Switzerland
Ice Dance: Australia, Bulgaria, China, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Poland, Russia, Turkey, Ukraine
45 minutes before the SP 9 of them will be drawn to sit on the panel. The remaining 4 will judge the FS along with 5 out of the 9 who judged the SP. This draw will take place 45 minutes before the FS
|by Anonymous||reply 171||Yesterday at 1:28 PM|
So glad there’s no US judge for men. Also glad no JPN judge, don’t want to hear about bias.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||Yesterday at 1:31 PM|
I guess Buldge Judge is retired from active duties. He has not judged anything this season. Spain will send someone else
Philippe was at Junior Worlds being referee for Pairs. If France send someone else, it is a blow for Shoma.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||Yesterday at 1:41 PM|
R170 you almost gave me a heart attack with that 4A 3A LMFAO
|by Anonymous||reply 174||Yesterday at 1:44 PM|
My heart jumped in my throat too with the 4A.
Shoma's ankle must still be bothering him. While Yuzu and Nathan are doing 2 quads in short, 4 in free - Shoma is planning 1 quad in short and 3 in free. He's not doing any kind of Lutz and instead of tacking a triple onto his quad combo in the free, he's planning a double toe. That's not like him, typically, is it?
Chen layout: 3A, 4F, 4T+3T – 4Lz, 4F, 4T+3T, 3A, 4T, 3Lz+3T, 3F+eu+3S (2/4)
Hanyu layout: 4S, 3A, 4T+3T – 4Lo, 4S, 3Lo, 4T, 4T+3A, 3F+3T, 3A+eu+3S (2/4)
Uno layout: 4T, 3S+3T, 3A – 4F, 4T, 3Lo, 4T+2T, 3A, 3A+eu+3F, 3S+3T (1/3)
|by Anonymous||reply 175||Yesterday at 1:51 PM|
Pairs practice now.
Fuji reported late last night that Hanyu hadn’t arrived in Japan yet because they didn't catch him at the airport. Their promos are also getting more intense. Keep an eye on their twitter and IG: @online_on_ice and Mura’s IG: @takahitobh5d
r156 Jason is a beginner. He speaks as if each word is its own sentence though you can always tell he’s memorized what he’s going to say. “Good morning. It’s 5:30AM. I’m at the airport. I’m going to Japan soon. I’m excited!” Hanyu’s been living in Canada for years, so it’s not a fair comparison.
Fernandez is commentating on Hanyu’s programs for S1 on TBS this weekend. S1 focused on Kihira’s training in Colorado last episode. A lot of nice footage, including a little from the worlds arena last night:
|by Anonymous||reply 176||Yesterday at 2:08 PM|
Omg. Now I'm more nervous looking at his layout. 😱
|by Anonymous||reply 177||Yesterday at 2:19 PM|
R169 you almost gave me a heart attack!
|by Anonymous||reply 178||Yesterday at 2:20 PM|
Shoma usually does two quads in the short, but sounds like he's still having trouble with his 4F. Strange that he chooses to do such an easy combo as 3S+3T when he used to do 3F+3T. The free layout is the best he can do without a 4S since he doesn't do lutz jumps anymore and repeats both 4T and 3A.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||Yesterday at 2:20 PM|
Boyang may be the dark horse. His layout is impressive too
|by Anonymous||reply 180||Yesterday at 2:23 PM|
Boyang may be impressive on paper but he's not landed 4S since the Olympics.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||Yesterday at 2:28 PM|
everyone will splat and Matteo Rizzo will randomly finish in top 5
|by Anonymous||reply 182||Yesterday at 2:32 PM|
Rizzo? I doubt it. Keep bringing us the inside scoop on Worlds, JDC. Your news is much appreciated. I really wanted to attend worlds but couldn't even get 1 ticket. The time difference is going to be dreadul but I'm going to try to get up early to watch those short programs.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||Yesterday at 2:35 PM|
Sponichi is reporting from the men's practice rink. Deniss and Lambiel are there.
Plushenko was left out of the updates on Hanyu's bio, oops.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||Yesterday at 2:37 PM|
I read practice starts soon for the men?. I heard no video allowed so hopefully anyone who is lucky to be there can let us know if Hanyu went to practice and how he did. 🙏
|by Anonymous||reply 185||Yesterday at 2:40 PM|
Practice for the first mens group already started but apparently only Deniss and Lambiel showed up just to take a look at the rink. Too early in the morning for anyone who arrived yesterday. Lots of press waiting, so there will be video on news programs later.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||Yesterday at 2:51 PM|
[quote] I read practice starts soon for the men?. I heard no video allowed so hopefully anyone who is lucky to be there can let us know if Hanyu went to practice and how he did.
Jackie Wong reports on training at his "rockerskating" site (and on Twitter.)
|by Anonymous||reply 187||Yesterday at 2:53 PM|
Everyone gets two practice sessions per day. The morning session is only at the practice rink. The afternoon one will be at the main rink, so it's likely more skaters will show up.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||Yesterday at 2:56 PM|
Nathan is there.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||Yesterday at 3:03 PM|
Ghislain is also there.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||Yesterday at 3:06 PM|
Jackie Wong @rockerskating 47s47 seconds ago
It's official: Yuzuru Hanyu is not here (wait for reaction)
|by Anonymous||reply 191||Yesterday at 3:07 PM|
Nathan showed up well before his time to practice?
Tracy Wilson showed up and then left.
Jackie Wong: On practice ice: Deniss Vasiljevs has the rink (and the adoration of the practice crowd) on itself; none of the Japanese men and Igor Reznichenko are on this practice.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||Yesterday at 3:17 PM|
r175 Uno has to tack a 2T onto his quad because he's already has a 3T combo and repeats 4T and 3A. Without a lutz, that's indeed the best he can do.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||Yesterday at 3:31 PM|
How reliable those planned layouts are ? Aren't they usually outdated ?
|by Anonymous||reply 194||Yesterday at 3:44 PM|
Shoma doesn't do lutzes at all? Or just because of his ankle? Does he have edge issues? I don't pay much attention to his layouts.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Yesterday at 3:50 PM|
r195 Edge issues. He seems to have dropped the lutz completely in the 2017/18 season.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Yesterday at 4:01 PM|
Shoma flutzes so badly Stevie Wonder could spot them from the opposite side of the rink.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Yesterday at 4:01 PM|
Shoma is Yuzu’s successor for japan in 2022, he better get his act together. He needs to take better care of that ankle. No one else is really on the horizon, though i still have hopes for shun sato.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||Yesterday at 4:06 PM|
R198 If he can fend off any other major injuries, Sota Yamamoto is going to be a surprise to us and to Shoma in the next couple of seasons, mark a random anon's words.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||Yesterday at 4:19 PM|
Yeah, I was going to say Sota seems to be getting back on track.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||Yesterday at 4:23 PM|
r199 I think he lost too many years to that injury, it broke his technical progress trajectory. I don't think it can be resumed.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||Yesterday at 4:23 PM|
R192 Maybe he overestimated how long it'd take to get to the rink? It's about 40 min by train or car if no traffic from hotel, though they're commuting during rush hour. Luckily, most commute into Tokyo from Saitama in the morning. Samodurova was told it'd take 1.5 hours one way.
Lambiel and Ghislain were sitting together. Only Chen now, everything good until last combo. Raf not even there. No Brown. No music submitted for no-shows.
Promo for Uno for worlds has been surprisingly subdued considering the first half of the season.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||Yesterday at 4:24 PM|
R199 I see your hopes. But shun is only 15 and kind of has a quad already, sato is 19 and comparing him to a 19 yo nathan is really not a realistic competitor
|by Anonymous||reply 203||Yesterday at 4:27 PM|
Jackie is reporting Zhou and Cha, but haven't see any Japanese reports yet. Britschgi?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||Yesterday at 4:30 PM|
Japanese skaters are still sleeping
|by Anonymous||reply 205||Yesterday at 4:32 PM|
Sorry, I meant Japanese twitter not reporting on anyone except Chen. Press also only interviewing Chen so far.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Yesterday at 4:36 PM|
Why is she such a creep, always imitating his every move or gesture. There is nothing cute about it. I know that account on insta is run by a loon but Med is giving her plenty of ammunition for her ramblings.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||a day ago|
Hamada with Zhou at the boards; Med with Tracy and Ge (coach/choreographer); no Hanyu to be found. Wtf is this??
|by Anonymous||reply 208||a day ago|
FNN news (@FNN_News) will be livestreaming the Japanese men’s press conference tomorrow at around 12PM. IF Hanyu doesn’t show up at practice later tonight or first practice tomorrow, we will definitely see or hear from him then. Nothing really notable about the ladies press conference, except Miyahara said her steps in SP have changed.
Orser also hasn’t shown up and didn’t arrive with Tracy and Med at the airport. Zagitova has finally appeared. Ghislain also currently at the subrink?
Tech panel has been added to Worlds results page: www. isuresults. com/results/season1819/wc2019/
Men: TC – Leena Laarksonen (Finland), TS – Evgeny Martynov (Ukraine), ATS - Masako Kawai (Japan). Mao ubers absolutely hate Kawai and are going to go crazy.
Ladies: TC – Mami Maeda (Japan), TS – Vanessa Gusmeroli (France), Katerina Kamberska (Czech Republic)
Hanyu found! (sort of):
|by Anonymous||reply 209||a day ago|
Still no Eteri or Orser. Dudakov is coaching Zagitova while Tracy is coaching Med again. Ghislain was at the rinkside while Hamada and Tamura were there for Kihira and Miyahara, but now sitting.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||a day ago|
R209 Was Kawai strict on Mao's URs or was it something else? Thanks for all the updates.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||a day ago|
I want the bitching for all involved in the race for the 24th because Nicole Schott has Gusmeroli, her choreographer, in the Technical Panel
|by Anonymous||reply 212||a day ago|
r207 I find people obsessed with criticizing Med's every move far creepier than her juvenile behavior.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||a day ago|
R212 What?! She was also on the ladies Sochi panel...
|by Anonymous||reply 214||a day ago|
R212 LMAO. That Emmi bitches about everything though.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||a day ago|
This season track record for the TPs
Kawai: no event
Martynov: Salt Lake City challenger (Ladies)
Gusmeroli: Rostelecom (Ladies)
Kamberska: Warsaw Cup (Ladies), Nepela (Ladies)
Laarksonen: Autumn Classic (Ladies), Finlandia Trophy (Ladies), Universiadi (Ladies)
Maede: JGP Richmond (Men)
|by Anonymous||reply 216||a day ago|
Uno and Tanaka have arrived.
R216 Thank you. So there's no doubt about Gusmeroli.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||a day ago|
Come on, you must remember me
|by Anonymous||reply 218||a day ago|
Hanyu arrived in Japan today.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||a day ago|
Prime News showed Zagitova arriving at the airport at 11AM today. I didn't see Eteri or Daniil, only Dudakov was with her. Masaru doesn't listen to Eteri by the way. Had footage of Japanese ladies, Medvedeva and Chen at first practice and interview with Kihira.
R218 0.0 0.0 Go back to the circus, VANESSA.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||a day ago|
Hanyu at the airport:
|by Anonymous||reply 221||21 hours ago|
The Swan has landed.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||21 hours ago|
R207. I'm to the point where I don't even like her anymore. Something is wrong with her. She isn't some little child. She's an adult.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||19 hours ago|
R222 It is to be expected but damn he looks tired.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||18 hours ago|
Even thinner than he was at Pyeongchang. When Hanyu rolls up to a competition with his double chin mostly gone you know he means business and shit's gonna be real. He's drawing on his fat reserves like a polar bear. We can only hope and pray his ass has survived.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||18 hours ago|
R225 why do you put the fear of God on me but implying his ass may have not survived
|by Anonymous||reply 226||18 hours ago|
R226 Upon reflection I realize since it appears to be pure muscle rather than fat, his ass should be fine. I hope that makes you feel better.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||18 hours ago|
Jackie Wong @rockerskating
Nathan Chen's current program layouts look to be:
SP: 3A 4F 4T3T
FS: 4Lz 4F 4S 3A 4T3T 4T3T 3F1Eu3S
|by Anonymous||reply 228||18 hours ago|
R227 Thank you, I appreciate it.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||17 hours ago|
Yuzu gave an interview. He's officially back.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||15 hours ago|
R230 I really don't get why he arrived so late. He might not have jetlag issues like Shoma but anyone will feel tired for one or two days after such a long flight. It's almost like he wants to stay at little as possible in his country nowadays. I know that's probably not it but still, the past year out of 12 months he barely spent 3 months in Japan. Same the one before. I also don't get how his mom can stand being away from her husband for months at a time since 2012. I understand being there for your son especially when he is such a high level athlete who needs a huge support system but sacrifying 7 years of your married life as well as the time with your other child is really crazy to me. I mean when he was a minor (so until his 20th birthday) it made sense but he will be 25 this year and has won 2 OGMs, does he really still need mommy to be there and hold his hand 24/7. I'm admittedly one of his biggest fans but this familial arrangement is really strange. But maybe I'm just too narrow minded.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||14 hours ago|
Wong "Shoma Uno's quad salchow is back in his free skate, right in time for Worlds" - he also did a run-through of his short program with two quads. And Wong said Nathan was doing FS run-throughs with five quads.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||13 hours ago|
R231 There's a cultural difference - many Asians don't see this arrangement as out of the ordinary. I went to a school where there were quite a few Chinese mothers who accompanied their children while the husbands stayed to work in their home country. The school was middle school through high school, so we're talking about 8 years abroad. I imagine as an elite athlete, the stakes are even higher. Hanyu's case is well advertised, but there are plenty of athletes living away from their families with one parent. Also, the arrangement seems to work for them and it's none of our business.
R232 I saw that Jackie tweet too. I think Shoma's doing 2 quads for his SP, but I don't see Nathan doing 5 quads.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||13 hours ago|
Maybe you mean you don't see it as a likelihood or possibility? But just in case - here's the tweet where Jackie guessed Nathan's 5-quad FS plans, I assume by watching what he's doing in practice (I added commas to make it easier to read):
Jackie Wong @rockerskating 9h9 hours ago
Nathan Chen's current program layouts look to be:
SP: 3A, 4F, 4T3T
FS: 4Lz, 4F, 4S, 3A, 4T3T, 4T3T, 3F,1Eu3S
|by Anonymous||reply 234||12 hours ago|
Oops too many commas - the last jumping pass is 3F1Eu3S
|by Anonymous||reply 235||12 hours ago|
R230 I thereby confirm that I have no chill and I can't skate for fun. Also, I'm only happy when I see my competition perish.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||12 hours ago|
Asian culture is a thing where even 30 or 40 year olds may still live at home as long as they want to, even if they are already making bank or have a career and can live independently. Of course, not everyone lives like that, but it isn't considered out of the ordinary. Nowadays some may see it as strange.
Also, doesn't Hanyu's mother also play a dual role as a manager of sorts for him? Especially since he doesn't have an agency so that he can focus on his skating and studies and she does a lot of everything else. He probably trusts her plenty as she's his mother.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||12 hours ago|
What is up with Team Japan men and terrible orange highlights?
|by Anonymous||reply 238||11 hours ago|
R233 I know perfectly well about Asian parents going abroad with their children while the other stays home, that's why I mentioned that it made sense while Yuzu was a minor so until 20 or even let's say until his 2nd OGM as it was his life goal. That she is still with him all the time nowadays and especially given that they stay in Japan less and less as years go isn't normal even by Japanese/Asian standards. Not only that, she still goes with him to TCC and stays and watches his every practise, same with literally every where he goes. She is always somewhere in a corner. You don't see other Asian tiger moms or Medvedeva's Russian bear mom do that.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||11 hours ago|
R231. I understand what you're saying. I think even though he is 24 he does need his mom. She is like his guardian angel. He's been through so much. He probably feels better having her there with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||11 hours ago|
The only place free from mama Hanyu's clutches is the locker room. Just imagine all the things that may have happened there
|by Anonymous||reply 241||11 hours ago|
R234 Yes, I meant I think it's unlikely that Nathan is planning a 5 quad program. I saw the Jackie tweet too, so I'm not questioning your info. I just think that with the already shortened time frame, the greater penalties for falls, and all his talk about wanting to build his artistic side, it just seems odd to fall back on that now. Maybe Nathan's practicing in case he needs to trot out the 5th quad if he's behind/close after SP and wants to pull out the big guns.
R239 Med's mother is in Toronto with her and is very involved in her career; Jin's mother had planned to move with him to Toronto even though he's 21 now; Yuna is 28 and her mother runs her business and was/is probably even more involved in her training, life and career than Hanyu's. Maybe Hanyu's mother wants to be there? Who knows. I guess Hanyu's unusual in that he's not retired at an age when many skaters retire, so maybe they're just continuing the routine they are used to. I don't understand the fascination with their relationship/living arrangement when the details we have are at best sketchy.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||11 hours ago|
Oh sorry R242 - I do think it means he's trying to keep his 4S on the backburner - I mean, it's definitely what Yuzuru would do - pull out all the stops.
A new interview (sheesh I'm becoming the Chen troll and I'm more of a Yuzu fan, but anyway)"
"How well Chen skates at worlds will factor “to some degree” in his decision about whether to enroll at Yale for next fall. He has until August to decide. “It depends on what my goals are in skating,” Chen said. “I can always find time to continue my education. Skating has more of an end date.” His skating schedule after worlds is to include appearances in nine of the 13 Stars on Ice shows in April and May, and he might return to Japan for the World Team Trophy in mid-April. Both are lucrative gigs.
And about not seeing Chen before Worlds, Raf said “I didn’t want to see him right before a competition because he would try too hard to impress me and get tired.” [yeah, right]
|by Anonymous||reply 243||11 hours ago|
R239 I'm not sure why this topic is getting your panties riled up, but obviously Yuzu is not just any “Asian”. He’s a star athlete and essentially a family business. He’s not just some Asian kid coming to the US to study abroad. If she wants to watch her kid skate everyday, so what?? Hanyu has had injury issues and with any aging athlete it gets harder and harder and he needs to invest more time to do as well. If it makes you feel any better, I’m sure when he retires, he’ll return to Japan. I mean technically it is the only language he speaks.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||11 hours ago|
I don't know why Hanyu attracts all the creepy analysis into his personal life. Every gesture, every person he trains with, encounters or looks at. Even his mother, father and sister who eschew the spotlight and don't invite the intrusion. The only creepy analysis I make an exception for is his ass - he clearly invites deep and penetrating inquiries into this particular area.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||11 hours ago|
>I also don't get how his mom can stand being away from her husband for months at a time since 2012.
You must be quite young to make a comment like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||11 hours ago|
R245 Disgusting. And you think you are not creepy?
|by Anonymous||reply 247||11 hours ago|
R247 This a Hanyu ass lusting thread, what are you doing? Get out if you are going to clutch your pearls like that. More ass pics meanwhile, please.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||10 hours ago|
R248 You're talking to Daitroll at r247, given the fact that it doesn't appear for me. Please have a heart - Daitroll probably grew up with warty, hairy asses that smelled of low tide and undigested orphaned children, so it just doesn't know any better.
Not ass, but perhaps a glimpse of abs will do for now?
|by Anonymous||reply 249||10 hours ago|
i hear 200 people showed up to the first Yuzu non-practice, I wonder how many will be there today -a 1000?
|by Anonymous||reply 250||10 hours ago|
R248 You are disgusting. Hanyu farts as well and takes a shit, you realize that?
|by Anonymous||reply 251||10 hours ago|
R249 Ah damn. I had forgotten about the daitroll lol. Blocked now.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||10 hours ago|
R252 LOL What Daitroll? Ha, ha assHOLE , you are pedophile like Jackson. Kids have buttoms like that. Hanyu like all those losers from Japan , lives with mum because she has to do laundry for him. He is useless. He is a bore.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||10 hours ago|
R249 You, whore live with mum as well? Maybe Hanyu should go to school, like Nathan or other skaters , not to listen music and play games all the time. He is grown up man, who doesn't even know how to clean dishes.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||10 hours ago|
Well well well who do we have here. What is pouty face up to, JDC? Is he sitting or standing? At the boards rearranging skate guards or just looking poutily into the distance. Spare no detail!!
|by Anonymous||reply 255||10 hours ago|
Something a little different from the usual ass shot to tide the thread over for a few hours.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||9 hours ago|
R256 His ass doesnt look like that in reality. Everything is bigger and rounder in camera . Close up does the work. Keep dreaming that he looks like that
|by Anonymous||reply 257||9 hours ago|