Report: Marvel Wants an Openly Gay Actor to Lead The Eternals

Why so old ? I wish they would pick someone younger

Thomasz Kit makes my loins quiver.

Kot! Damn autocorrect!!!

So who are the openly gay actors in the age range, look like a super hero and have a modicum of name recognition. It's basically Matt Bomer and...?

Hopefully a hot Instagram model jock

Luke Evans, your role is ready!

Daniel Newman

The ones that look superhero-ish and in the right age range:

Matt Bomer, Luke Macfarlane, Matt Dallas, Luke Evans, Cheyenne Jackson, Andrew Hayden-Smith, Scott Evans, Simon Woods

R6 Immortals was practically his demo reel for it, lol.

Oh, Jakey, Jakey, Jakey. Come out, come out wherever you are. Only if they mean [italic]gay[/italic] gay, of course. You are not an initialism.

What about Quinto? Wentworth Miller?

Matt Bomer would be fantastic. Love (looking at) him

Lee Pace!

Bomer has a DC movie coming out, so I guess not him.

Julian Morris. Duh.

Oh, but he'd have to be [italic]out[/italic] out. You can do that, can't you, Julian?

For a second I forgot I was on the DL.

Did r1 just call 30-49 so old? On [italic]this[/italic] board?

Matt Dallas

[quote]Matt Bomer, Luke Macfarlane, Matt Dallas, Luke Evans, Cheyenne Jackson, Andrew Hayden-Smith, Scott Evans, Simon Woods

Are they looking for someone who can actually act? If so, a few of these names has to come off.

Andrew K-B or Hunter R-H. Or both.

Wilson Cruz wants to throw his hat into the ring for this part

Ben Whishaw, hit the gym!

Hey Marvel, want to help a brother out?

Since Matt Bomer is on a DC TV series right now

Luke MacFarlane is the obvious choice, especially with his current series having wrapped up after 5 seasons.

Get my agent on the phone!

Just make a movie and cast all the hot gay actors.

If you guys get a gay superhero, they better give us a lesbian Elsa.

Watch them all come BURSTING out of the closet!

Well played, Marvel.

I don't think there is a more obvious gay choice to play an action star. I mean c'mom bitches.

[22] Luke Mcfarlane is a hottie

A lot of those actors are in the closet and will have to come out, many won't, then you have the fact a lot of them can't act, discount the fact that a couple dont have the beauty/body to be a superhero, in the end how many are left ?

We don’t have much of a bench.

How has no one said Russell Tovey?

Daniel Newman, simon woods and lee pace are bi, not gay so they better not get the role that should go to a gay man. Plus they are at the bottom of of list in terms of appearance from the names listed. Pace is tall and relatively good looking- but not a stunner.

Richard Armitage?

[quote]you have the fact a lot of them can't act

I think the real question is: who are they casting for?

They're liking taking a character that is normally straight and writing them as gay.

I think the likeliest person to do that with is Starfox since he's already been revealed to be bisexual and is Thanos' brother.

If that's the case they'd only need to be charming and handsome.

"Richard Armitage?"

Isn't he back in the closet?

It's a trick to get people to come out! I'm, er, I mean, those gays over there, yeah, those gays aren't that dumb!

Col-ton! Col-ton!

Charlie Carver

Look R38, I as much as everyone wishes Nolan Gerard Funk was gay. Or at least out.

For a marvel franchise, Nolan Funk would be the biggest cock sucker you've ever met.

I found out who signed to play Gilgamesh but then I forgot.

So the assumption is they would be playing Hercules, who is bisexual.

I wonder if there would be two cuts of the movie, one for for thr west, and one for China and similar places with gay references removed.

Another vote for the best actor (by far) in the list, Luke Evans. He not only looks and fits the part of a superhero, he turns me on instantly.

My second choice would be Billy Magnussen, but I'm not sure if he's openly gay.

Uh no R43 Billy is definitely not openly gay.

Then sorry, Billy. lol

Why is Chloe Zhao directing this? She's a very talented director, but this is not her forte. I'm sick of Marvel's new found PC bullshit pandering. Just hire the right person for the job and stick your quotas up your ass.

And get Chloe something that will actually show off her talent.

Sam Heughan needs to come out.....again

R46, the premise of The Eternals seems a bit more thoughtful than the stupid Avengers movies, so she'll be fine.

Marvel was looking for an actor to play a gay character in The Eternals, and this actor was to be Trevor Donovan. However, after conversations, Marvel decided to choose an "openly gay actor" for the role.

Luke Evans, you say? Yes, please!

[quote]I'm sick of Marvel's new found PC bullshit pandering. Just hire the right person for the job and stick your quotas up your ass.

Or maybe, R46, they like her vision for the Eternals and she'll do fine because it's not just going to be a knock 'em down, punch 'em up movie?

They're not stupid. They know what they're doing. People once thought James Gunn was a weird choice (A HORROR MOVIE DIRECTOR!) for Guardians. The movies were hits.

[quote]However, after conversations, Marvel decided to choose an "openly gay actor" for the role.

This is Marvel/Disney totally responding to the criticism of them having their first gay Disney character and casting a straight actor.

Obviously a response to Kit Harington calling out Marvel months ago

I want Matt Bomer to be in a Marvel movie, but not play a gay character. Why does the gay actor only get the gay character?

[quote]Why does the gay actor only get the gay character?

You've missed the point entirely. The lead character is GAY, so Marvel wants an openly gay actor to fill the role. Bomer and any other gay actors are welcome to audition for whichever male role they'd like, assuming they meet any other criteria set for those roles.

Wouldn't it be great if his superpower's comes from swallowing come?

Luke Evans is 40 years old, people.

They should go with a masculine bisexual guy of color.

Bisexual = boring twat who can't make up his mind, and will end up marrying a woman in the end. Doesn't deserve to work. I don't care how masculine or colorful he is.

[quote]Why is Chloe Zhao directing this? She's a very talented director, but this is not her forte. [bold]I'm sick of Marvel's new found PC bullshit pandering.[/bold] Just hire the right person for the job and [bold]stick your quotas up your ass[/bold].

This applies to making a straight (and most likely, white) character gay.

No please, he has to be 100% gay, masculine and white. This will be the first one, they can do femmes and POC later.

Nope r60

Only gays should be allowed in Hollywood or on Broadway. It’s ours, you breeders can’t have it anymore, especially you breeder bitches.

Only gay stories are worth telling. Aunt Ida was not only right, but she didn’t go far enough.

Watch Armie Hammer accidentally leak his sex tape with Timmy Chalamet as proof that he’s all about the bussy.

How old is Zac Efron?

Ahem

Eternals seems like such an underwhelming property to follow a year with Captain Marvel, Avengers, and Spider-Man. Using an openly gay male lead for a gay male character will help promote the property, but they need a decent story and Eternals doesn't really have anything that stands out.

Yes, R61.

“Story story story” is bullshit bullshit bullshit.

Yes, r46, and to add to r51's response, Taika Waititi (who did a quirky tv show and small quirky films) delivered the very successful Thor: Ragnarok.

r56- they wanted an actor up to 49 years old. Luke is fine.

Yeah but Luke Evans looks 49 already. They definitely want someone on the other end of the age range since sequels will be expected.

And who the hell is Lee Pace? I’ve never heard of this guy outside of Datalounge.

Robert Downey Jr, Jeremy Renner, Paul Rudd and Mark Ruffalo were all around Luke Evan's age when they came aboard Marvel.

[quote]And who the hell is Lee Pace?

Just some guy I was on a TV show with a few years ago.

Luke Evans would be a great choice indeed.

R64 Armie is straight, get that into your head and at least namedrop a gay actor.

How about Dino Fetscher? He just turned 30.

Lee has already participated in the Marvel Universe as a villain, so he's out:

I'll take it.

My vote's for Dino! He's gay, he's hot, he's a bottom with a big dick, and he's into scifi/horror cosplay.

Um. Where does it say they want a GAY character? What I saw in the article was more "LGBTQIA-EXPIALADOCIOUS" fuckery.

Mark my words. The character will not be exclusively gay. He will be bi/pan/fluid. Count on it.

These shows never have the balls to just show gay men. They want to make them bi/pan/fluid do they can win diversity points, but most of their serious relationships will be with women.

Dan Amboyer

[quote]According to the studio’s criteria, the actor must be someone who falls in the 30-49 age range and “physically looks like a superhero.” Moreover, Marvel would prefer it if the actor were openly gay.

This is a gender neutral description. What if they're looking for an openly lesbian actor?

I would like to nominate the most openliest gay actor that DL knows and loves. Someone who has already shown us his adept use of superpowers.

[quote]Matt Bomer, Luke Macfarlane, Matt Dallas, Luke Evans, Cheyenne Jackson, Andrew Hayden-Smith, Scott Evans, Simon Woods

[quote]Are they looking for someone who can actually act? If so, a few of these names has to come off.

Well, based on the current crop of extremely successful Marvel actors, I'd say that acting is not a requirement - Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth.

As they told Greg Brady, they mostly got the part because they fit the suit.

True about the acting. All the actor needs to be is relatively charismatic and in shape, as there's a lot of running and jumping in front of green screens.

Will NEVER EVER happen. Marvel will NEVER introduce a gay (male) character. If they introduce a queer character it will either be trans or lesbian. They have plenty of lesbians on their shows (Agents of SHIELD, Jessica Jones and the list goes on and on), however they have never had a gay male character. They are scared shitless their homophobic fanboys will abandon them if they do. You see lesbians are a turn on for the homophobic bigots, hot lesbians are fine. They will never introduce a gay male character because the risk is way too high.

Well if they're looking for LGBTQAZXVEW then yeah they'll probably pick the safest which usually is bisexual/lesbian

Did you not read the thread, R85? The studio heads had picked Trevor Donovan for the lead role but then decided to go with an openly gay man.

They're obviously casting for the role of Ikaris.

I am supposed to believe that Trevor Donovan was cast to lead a marvel franchise?

Yep, I don't believe that for not one second.

Eva Green also is rumored to be in consideration for a major role in the film.

Eva Green would be a perfect Sersi.

R88, some people would have said the same for Chris Evans or Robert Downey Jr.

R85, Please, they will cast an openly gay actor to play a gay character and never ever mention it except for a single moment where they make a veiled reference to liking dick. That's how they'll do it.

[quote] some people would have said the same for Chris Evans or Robert Downey Jr.

...How are the two remotely comparable? Evans and Downey Jr were movie stars.

Donovan is best known for a not that popular CW reboot of 90210 and the only thing he has been able to get cast in is Hallmark channel movies.

Man, if Trevor had come out a decade ago he could've been cast.

[quote]...How are the two remotely comparable? Evans and Downey Jr were movie stars.

Evans had a string of teen comedies and Downey Jr.'s legendary insurance cost just to do the film was well written about thanks to all of his personal fuck ups with drugs and alcohol.

Of course everyone forgot that once Iron Man started bringing the big bucks in.

I seriously wish we could go back in time and snatch Tab Hunter from the dreary, unforgiving 50s. He would have been perfect.

Yes, of course I know those things r93. Your attempt to equate the career of Trevor Donovan with the career of Chris Evans or Robert Downey Jr pre-Marvel is just laughable, Donovan would murder someone to have those "string of teen comedies" (plus the FF movies), it isn't in the same universe.

Who exactly is this gay character? Did I miss it?

Sam "A Purse Falls Out When I Speak" Heughan, get your well-exposed arse out here!

Jussie Smollett needs a role!

Who? What? No. R95. Your attempt to think Marvel is above casting someone like Trevor Donavan because of his background is the problem.

They really do not give a damn if the person fits the character and is cheap. They cast Chris Pratt, previously known as dumb ass "Andy," from Parks & Rec as a lead in a major franchise.

This isn't "high art."

You didn't miss it r96, there is no specific character attached to these rumors. Though from what I see the marvel fanboys think Hercules, as he has a lot some comic book history of being bisexual and based on the casting breakdown for a named remove male Greek God is a lead character in this movie.

Darren Criss lost his chance with his " no more gay roles" comment last year.

Henry Cavill, here is your chance to come out with panache.

R82 = link posting fail

Tomasz Kot is straight. He's married to a woman and has two kids with her.

It is saying that he (and Cameron Britton) are attached to the film in different roles r104.

Sam Heughan would be perfect for this, or the gay James Bond role.

Sam's too busy on Outlander and trying to make people think he's not gay.

His schedule is packed.

So is his hole.

Do you think it’s possible an actor could be cast in the role and come out as a result? It certainly would give the movie a lot of press before it even is released.

Would love to see that, though only if he's at least somewhat high profile.

R109, And there would also be many members of the gay community (not just other openly gay actors) who have been out for years who would be annoyed.

I can already see the backlash from people annoyed that the actor "only" came out for a franchise paycheck.

It's also totally possible that they will find an out gay actor who can transform themselves into a physically fit hero. So maybe not someone who looks the part yet but could with some work.

Poaching Superman to lead a marvel franchise and getting him to come out as part of the role would rule the internet. Are you listening Henry Cavill?

No, that would lead to the possibility of gayness being accused as a divisive distraction instead of just seemlessly fitting in with the cast and story. The Michael Sam Error should never be repeated

He's more of a Broadway actor but Matt Doyle could work for this

[quote]Sam "A Purse Falls Out When I Speak" Heughan, get your well-exposed arse out here!

[quote]Sam Heughan would be perfect for this, or the gay James Bond role.

He was openly gay before Outlander, when he was a theatre actor in England. Does that count?

No because he went back into the closet. He'd have to come out again for it to count R115

What role?

Ikaris

Makkarri

Zuras

Gilgamesh

KRO?

Jonathan Bailey

Zac Efron

Find some hot masculine dudes, even if unknowns

Jonathan Bennett so he has something other than Mean Girls and Cupcake Wars to talk about.

The thing about the Eternals is they are supposed to be powerful but also very attractive by human standards while their counterparts the Deviants are considered very ugly by human standards and most not anywhere near the level of power of that an Eternal has.

Rami Malek: The Bug Eyed Gay

That’s very un woke r122

Once upon a time we’d have been clamoring for Cheyenne to win this role.

Need a real masculine bro in this

It's what Jack Kirby created R124 almost just like how Nightcrawler from the X-Men is also part of a race that is demonic looking and considered ugly by human standards while the X-Man Angel is part of their counterpart race who are supposed to be angelic looking and attractive by human standards.

They can go with a little known actor. Hemsworth was an Aussie soap actor, did AU Dancing With the Stars, and then had a brief role in the Star Trek reboot. Then he's Thor.

I would not be surprised if it was a nobody.

R129 it’s good business sense. Super hero movies tend to sell themselves; built in audience. Many will want to see the movie regardless of who stars in it. That means they can pay an unknown nothing. They do it all the time. Someone like Wonder Woman got paid like $50,000 for the first movie. It’s not until the sequels that the multi movie deal contracts allow them to make millions.

I legitimately do not care if it ends up being a nobody, as long as HE is openly gay. People don't realize how huge that would be.

They could easily just pull anyone from Broadway

How will this make money? We've already seen that China cut all of the gay parts out of Bohemian Rhapsody, and so a movie like this will not get the critical renminbi.....plus the same anti-SJW crowd who brought down Last Jedi will undermine it in North America.

R133, I suspect that the character won’t necessarily be gay, rather, Marvel wants to take the major step of casting an openly gay actor in the lead male role. I have to imagine that even China won’t have a problem with that (Islamic countries might be different). And I’m as anti-SJW as one can be, my experience with that crowd is that they’re rather libertarian: if the actor doesn’t go on and on about how oppressed he is/was & focuses on the film and giving a good performance, they’ll support him and the movie.

I think they want to do a Chris Evans and go with someone in his mid-20s, so they have a decade or so of movies out of hi, if the franchise becomes huge.

Who's in his early-to-mid 20s, is gay, and perhaps willing to put out?

They said they're looking for someone 30 to 49 R135

It better be an American gay actor, otherwise it's a copout.

They should either go with one of the usual suspects (Boomer, Jackson, Quinto) or a nobody.

There are so many gay boys in Los Angeles alone. They could fill a football stadium times 10.

Why would it be a copout? No one cares that Chris Hemsworth is originally from Australia and he's one of the most beloved Marvel actors now. What a silly thing to say. As if us overseas gay Marvel fans don't matter.

[quote]What a silly thing to say. As if us overseas gay Marvel fans don't matter.

It has to be someone living in the US so the American public can see him.

Matthew Risch. I saw him on Broadway and he was on Looking. He'd fill out the suit perfectly.

[Quote]It better be an American gay actor, otherwise it's a copout.

[Quote]It has to be someone living in the US so the American public can see him.

Nothing you are saying makes any sense dear.

Russell Tovey is delish.

Are they going for an all American boy look? If Trevor Donovan is the look they are gong for, it gives us a clear picture of the "look" they are going for.

Re foreign actors, If they must choose a foreign actor, at least choose someone who actually made the move to the USA and is grinding and hustling his little butt like everyone else in Los Angeles!

Out has some ideas but completely misses the point

Aren’t the Eternals inspired by the Greek Gods? So shouldn’t the actor look like a...Greek god?

[bold]Top Marvel Executive: ‘The World Is Ready’ for a Gay Superhero in the MCU[/bold]

[quote]Marvel’s production chief Victoria Alonso says it’s time a gay superhero appears in the MCU franchise. “The world is ready, the world is ready,” Alonso told Variety at the Los Angeles premiere of “Captain Marvel.”

[quote]The subject of LGBTQ representation in the MCU has been a hot topic on Twitter this week after The Hashtag Show reported that Marvel was looking to make the lead superhero in the upcoming “Eternals” film gay and that the casting search has already begun.

[quote]Alonso stopped short of confirming the rumor, but said, “We are going to cast the best ‘Eternals’ cast that we can and when we’re ready to announce it we promise you we will.”

[quote]She emphasized how committed Marvel is to diversity.

[quote]“Why wouldn’t we be? Why wouldn’t we be?” Alonso said. “I’m so passionate about this I’ve got to tell you. Our entire success is based on people that are incredibly different. Why wouldn’t we? Why would we only want to be recognized by only one type of person? Our audience is global, is diverse, is inclusive. If we don’t do it that way for them, we will fail. If we don’t put pedal to the metal on the diversity and the inclusivity, we will not have continued success. Our determination is to have that for all of the people out there watching our movies.”

Although I cringe when I see people use "diversity" and "inclusive," she's right, at least partly, that the success of the MCU is due to the varied individuals on display in the films.

Why do those words make you cringe? What words would you use when talking about movies that are too white and straight?

Ben Whishaw

Brian Jordan Alvarez wants the part

Because I associate those words with rabid, clueless, ideologically driven SJWs. It's the same way I used cringe whenever Bush and his acolytes would use the word "resolve."

r150 I'd love that but isn't he living his best life in Australia? Maybe a bucket of cash could change his mind. I wouldn't worry about his lack of muscles because there's not much that lab under the Disney castle can't do.

r152 Okay, but you're talking about your immediate emotional response; that's not an argument about why those words are inappropriate to use in that context. Again, you are free to offer alternatives with similar meanings. Though I doubt the whole world will start using those for the sole purpose of not triggering your emotional trauma.

r151 NO. Not now, not ever. Keep that thirsty bitch away from this.

Cody Fern

Finn Wittrock

[quote]Because I associate those words with rabid, clueless, ideologically driven SJWs. It's the same way I used cringe whenever Bush and his acolytes would use the word "resolve."

R148 / R152, the words "diversity" and "inclusive" existed prior to "SJWs" and if you don't like those words because they happen to use them, then that is 100% on you.

r153, please point to where I said it was inappropriate to use those words.

r157, yep, it is 100% on me. Same as it's 100% on the people who cringe when others use "no problem" instead of "you're welcome."

And it's 100% on both of you for getting your panties in a bunch over me merely expressing my opinion.

Kristen Stewart and Ben Whishaw

R97, R106, R115 Sam Heughan can’t act his way out of soggy paper sack. You can see him thinking about hitting his marks, including that horrible head nodding thing he does, from a mile away. He’s the Anna Paquin of Outlander. Minus the award.

Acting talent isn't a huge requirement to be in the MCU

You got me there, R161, but I’m not sure he’s suited for any screen. Let alone a silver one.

He can't be worse than Hemsworth at acting? Heughan is not out they want openly gay actor not closeted actor they already have hired many closeted actors for lead roles lol

Cody Fern

Daniel Newman, obviously:

I mean, why NOT Daniel Newman?

Clearly Daniel Newman should be in the running;

Maybe Daniel Newman can get Tanner a bit part :-)

Anything to avoid an openly gay actor R166/R167

Huh, R169?? How is Daniel Newman not an openly gay actor? WTF are you saying?

Daniel's bisexual

HE'S GAY, DUMBASS. AND OPENLY SO.

Jesus.

Really?

[quote]Daniel Newman, who first appeared on the hit AMC show last season, is opening up for the first time about being bisexual and how he hopes to inspire others who are struggling to be themselves.

[quote]“I don’t want to be hidden and have to dodge the question,” he tells PEOPLE of publicly revealing his sexuality. “I’m proud of who I am.”

[quote]“I grew up in a very conservative southern Georgia home, and it didn’t really matter what your sexuality was — it just wasn’t open conversation,” Newman says. “It was always, ‘Don’t talk about your private life,’ so I was so used to that. I didn’t really think about it really as hiding. I never thought of myself as being in a closet or hidden. It just was that I didn’t really feel like talking about my private life.”

[quote]“I’ve seen such a revolution in the last five years of the LGBT community — it’s been such a transformation. It’s gone from something that was a negative thing before to something that is so celebrated and a part of our culture now,” he continues. “Even though I felt before that I couldn’t talk about my private life, I was like, ‘You know what, this is something that everyone should be comfortable with, being 100 percent themselves and authentic.’ “

The bi-hate on this forum is clearly irrational.

But more than that, this guy hangs with gay porn stars and is only connected with men, but somehow "isn't good enough" for the fucking puritopians.

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?

Cool. I love bi dudes

Cody Fern is gross and femme

Gross and femme guys do not sell tickets, especially outside North America and Europe

R174 clearly a straight fat ugly girl

R173 ‘bi’ who fucks nasty, trashy gay for pay pornstars, and ugly to boot. No thanks, sis.

R178 hysterical bitter old queen alert

R176 Gross and femme guys do not sell tickets

but people love them look at Chalamet and Sean Mendes

Someone who apparently is Kevin Hart's body double (his words) wants to be the first gay hero

Nice

He's not what American people think as "Greek God", but he could pass for an actual Greek..Miguel Ángel Silvestre. Also has a hot bod and a decent actor.

Hollywood needs to stop shoving heterosexuality in our faces in any context. I’m sick of it.

Miguel Ángel Silvestre isn't gay though R183

It needs to be Taylor Lautner. He can come out when they announce the casting. Plus they get extra points for his Café au lait-ness.

Taylor's past his sell by date for hotness

A personal trainer will whip him into shape in three months.

That's a weird way to spell HGH r188.

R189, :)

[quote]Aren’t the Eternals inspired by the Greek Gods? So shouldn’t the actor look like a...Greek god?

Sam Heughan. And he can act.

A beautiful Gay God (in the closet):

The character is a blonde buff hemsworth type. Everyone else is a stretch. I’m annoyed that they’re basically looking for a gay stereotype. None of these people fit. Not Brian, def not Matthew risch (he’s too old and not fit enough). I would say Constantine rousouli but he’s too old and not good enough of an actor. I really have no idea who it would be.

Zachary Quinto

Van Hansis is 37, blond and perhaps he could buff up.

Tyler Hanes

Me.

Sorry Gandalf, even the best CGI can't make you look 30 - 49.

Please hire me. I'll do almost anything you want.

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R197 Why not?

Jay Armstrong Johnson

How old is Wentworth Miller?

R202 He's 46. Getting up there

I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. Feige!

[quote]I think they want to do a Chris Evans and go with someone in his mid-20s, so they have a decade or so of movies out of hi, if the franchise becomes huge.

But Chris Evans was not in his twenties when he signed on to Marvel. Neither was Chris Pratt, Paul Rudd, Old Man Renner, or Rodan Downey Jr. The only one was was actually mid-20s was Chris Hemsworth who was 26 in Thor.

Well since Arrow is ending.....

Brock Yurich has the body and looks, and he's a decent enough actor by Marvel standards

Brock is boss

[bold]Angelina Jolie in Talks to Make Marvel Debut With 'The Eternals'[/bold]

[quote]While details about the movie are being kept under wraps, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that one aspect to the story involves the love story between Ikaris, a man fueled by cosmic energy, and Sersi, who relishes moving amongst humans. It is unclear who Jolie will play. Marvel had no comment.

Ray Santiago is openly gay and has amazing abs. Loved him in Ash vs Evil Dead. Hopefully he auditions for this.

Please, I hope Angelina Jolie isn't their idea of an "openly gay actor." And I hope that she passes -- I realize the Marvel movies aren't great art, but Jolie would still stink it up.

I don't love Jolie as a person, but she is talented and would do great in whatever Marvel wanted her to do.

Why do people like Marvel movies? All it seems to be about mediocre movies that share a universe.

[quote] How old is Wentworth Miller?

Too old. And too camp.

R209 no to Angelina.

R214 he was ok as Chris Redfield in Resident Evil. Even though he looks nothing like him.

Jolie can't act and she's a closeted lezzie.

R211 Please, I hope Angelina Jolie isn't their idea of an "openly gay actor."

Exactly. did she ever date a woman OPENLY? and when? she's a closet coward who promoted herself with her lavender marriages.

I posted the Jolie news here because there's no dedicated Eternals thread. Of course she isn't the openly gay actor that Marvel is eventually going to cast.

She probably has a supporting role.

r219 You mean like Annette Bening in Captain Marvel? I can't see that as that's usually reserved for older actors.

Cinema is dead.

[Quote] She probably has a supporting role.

That's not any better.

Lack of lead roles for trans people in Marvel films is literally killing thousands of transfolk a day.

R223 Jolie looks trans is that enough or still a transface?

We need an FTM to play The Hulk.

MTFs look more masculine than FTMs

Brian Jordan Alvarez has already auditioned and says he liked his audition.

R178 Tanner is [italic]not[/italic] nasty and trashy. He's divine!

Sam Heughan would be perfect.

He only needs to come out again.

r227 Nooo! I can't stand him.

Is there anything interesting in that article? NewNowNext is blocked for us euros and Google doesn't allow showing us the cached version either.

Richard Madden!

R230 The text of the article:

Avengers: Endgame is already setting box office records weeks before it even hits theaters—but fans are already looking to the next phase of Marvel movies, specifically when we can expect to see an openly queer Marvel superhero on the big screen.

At a recent press event in India, Endgame co-director Joe Russo told reporters that a LGTBQ superhero is “100%” coming to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and he added that audiences will see one “very soon.”

This adds fuel to the fire of rumors that Marvel is looking to cast an openly gay actor to play an out superhero in The Eternals, Marvel’s upcoming feature, set to be released next year.

As NewNowNext previously reported, the studio is searching for an actor, between the ages 30-49, who “physically looks like a superhero” for a lead in the upcoming feature-length movie. Marvel is said to be open to actors of all ethnicity, but would prefer the role to go to an openly gay actor. The Eternals is scheduled to begin filming in the U.K. in September, and run through January of next year.

Marvel’s production chief Victoria Alonso, at the premiere of Captain Marvel in Los Angeles, told Variety it’s time for a gay superhero, and that the world is ready.

“We are going to cast the best Eternals cast that we can, and when we’re ready to announce it, we promise you we will,” said Alonso.

We know one out actor who auditioned for a role in The Eternals: Brian Jordan Alvarez, who revealed to Queerty that he was “very happy” with his recent audition for the Marvel movie. Could he be the first actor to make the jump from Will & Grace to Marvel Comics?

It is just Brian Jordan Alvarez desperately trying to drum up hype for himself.

r232 Thanks! For some reason, I always assumed actors weren't allowed to discuss auditioning for these big Disney movies until the casting process is completed.

Richard even has his own costume.

I'm wondering about the legality of this.

During the casting process in the US, can you actually refuse to hire an auditioning actor if he's straight or "only" bisexual? Do employment regulations allow bosses to discriminate based on an applicant's inner sexual orientation?

Casting calls specify age, gender, and ethnicity all the time r236.

How is this different?

Because sexual orientation is an INNER characteristic, not an OUTER one, R237.

"Age, sex, height, weight, and ethnicity" are about EXTERNAL LOOKS ("VISUAL TYPE").

Are you saying that gays [italic]look[/italic] inherently different from straights, R237? If you juxtapose Heath Ledger and Luke Evans - how does their sexual orientation affect their LOOK TYPE?

Kristen Stewart or Anna Paquin both openly bisexual

Man, you like the caps lock button r238.

Ethnicity is not always a look type. We used to do it that way "Sicilians can play Hispanics it's all the same", now a lot of productions care about getting it accurate.

And yes, this isn't something that can be verified based on looks, they just have to assume the people that are coming in for the auditions are being honest.

Will Angelina use that camptastic accent she adopted to play the mother of Alexander the Great when she plays an Eternal?

They sometimes cast for knowledge of certain languages or an ability to mimic an accent, or a singing ability. Those are also aspects not immediately visible to the outsider, just like sexual orientation.

The truth is that LGBT people are a minority and so the studio here will cast in good faith, in order to increase representation and inclusion of that group. I don't see why we should bother with legal technicalities in this case. Of course they can cast straight people in those parts, but it's nice to see a gay actor proudly talking about playing a gay role in this huge superhero movie during press junkets and TV appearances. That's the more important issue, not the character in the movie itself. At least for the time being, while (global) attitudes towards homosexuality are very much lacking still.

R240, I use the caps button when answering silly questions that should be obvious to anyone.

As for ethnicity, as I said - it's about [bold]external looks[/bold]. E.g. a Scottish person (which is an ethnicity, e.g. Gerard Butler) can easily be cast as a Greek soldier (which is a completely separate ethnicity).

There are still Chinese actors being cast in Japanese roles and vice versa. It's all about "general look type".

The only reason casting directors are now trying to get ethnicity a bit more correct is because we live in a global world now - so e.g. many Asian audiences watch Hollywood movies (they are the most important foreign $$$ market). And they can often tell that e.g. a Chinese role is played by e.g. a Korean person - and it's often laughable to them and even visually grating. Those who don't live in Asia can't pick up on this - but many Asians can't help but see that there's an obvious [bold]visual[/bold] mismatch in the character's look.

[quote] They sometimes cast for knowledge of certain languages or an ability to mimic an accent, or a singing ability. Those are also aspects not immediately visible to the outsider, just like sexual orientation.

R242, you're talking about [bold]skills[/bold]. Like an actor's horseback riding skills. Inner sexual orientation does not automatically give you any skills.

[quote] I don't see why we should bother with legal technicalities in this case.

Because it's a double-edged sword. Legally, everything goes both ways. If you start explicitly stating casting preferences based on inner sexual orientation - then others can also use this to [bold]explicitly[/bold] state that they want e.g. preferrably non-gay actors in non-gay roles, or "openly pansexual" actors in pansexual roles, etc.

R168 Then they'd have to rename it The Internals.

MARVEL?

I'd rather have CARVEL!

too bad Edgar Ramirez isn't out...

Cast someone who is really bisexual or gay not someone who says he/she is but only (fake) dates from the opposite sex.

They should cast Chris Evans brother, Scott, so we'll have two Marvel Bros.

Loving Matt Bomer as Negative Man

We don't want Mangelina she's not bisexual she's a lezzie who pretends to be one by her fake marriages and fake dating life to closeted gay men.

Ben Whishaw for the Villain role

Matt. Bomer. He can do this with Negative Man too

r253 can an actor play both DC and Marvel? Has this happened before?

@ r192 Luke Macfarlane! he's out of the closet, 6'2, under 40, fit as fuck and does well with fight scenes!

I know Luke went back to LA in Feb...so maybe he was there for auditions? Fingers crossed. Here's a vid of him working out those sexy muscles

Richard Madden is perfect for the role.

I’d be fine with Luke McFarlane. His big break is long overdue

Most out gay actors are better actors than Marvel actors (lead roles not supporting).

[quote]can an actor play both DC and Marvel? Has this happened before?

Laurence Fishburne (Man of Steel and Ant-Man and the Wasp)

Djimon Hounsou (Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain Marvel and Shazam!)

Ben Affleck (Daredevil and Justice League, Batman v. Superman)

Josh Brolin (Jonah Hex and Avengers: Infinity War & Endgame)

Angela Basset (Black Panther and Green Lantern)

Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern and Deadpool

Chris Evans(The Losers, F4, Captain America, Avengers)

Zoe Saldana(The Losers and Guardians of the Galaxy)

Halle Berry(X-Men and Catwoman)

Julian Morris seems to be auditioning with this photograph

(he'd have to come out though!)

I'd see this if Julian were the star.

Luke Macfarlane should get the part.

Charlie Bennett from Netflix's Russian Doll

Charlie Barnett is gay, r266? Is that why he got fired on Chicago Fire?

Charlie Barnett would be a good choice but needs to gay up his Insta if he really wants the role. Because no one knows for sure how he swings right now.

Look at that chiseled face! Luke Macfarlane has the action hero look down already. But would he be seen as too tv for marvel? i feel like they have to be less picky because they want an out actor, or would they just go for an unknown? Can you even ask for an out gay man on a casting sheet? Do the actors have to prove it? bhaha

Luke McFarlane: boring, snoring.

Macfarlane might be too tainted by the Hallmark brand at this point.

Alfonso Bassave has the swarthy look needed for an authentic Hercules.

They said an actor, R199, not an embarrassing cipher who did untold damage to the gay community, and that was just during his child actor years.

I think it would be nice if Hercules - the epitome of masculinity - wasn't white for a change as that would [italic]really[/italic] trigger the neo-Nazis. Make him a Latino instead. Or adjacent/ambiguous, whatever.

They could also go the unexpected route and cast Nyle DiMarco. That would do wonders for the deaf community.

Nyle DiMarco is fluid, he isn't gay.

r275 Really? I had no idea. He's out of the running, then. No. Fluids. EVER!

[Quote] I think it would be nice if Hercules - the epitome of masculinity - wasn't white for a change as that would really trigger the neo-Nazis. Make him a Latino instead.

Well, we don't even know for certain that the role is Hercules. It could be another character.

I think the only thing in that extensive rumour posted in the other thread that is 100% correct at this moment (aside from Jolie getting cast) is the mention of Hercules being the gay character. I doubt they'll change that.

The gay character in Eternals rumor, came from a leaked casting sheet. (later confirmed kinda by Marvel). The bit about Hercules being the gay character for the new film, is an assumption from the comics sites about a brief storyline in an alternative series in the comics when Hercules & Logan (Wolverine) get together. A Marvel Comics guy even later said something about how the normal versions of the characters aren't gay/bi. Marvel Comics is separate from Marvel Films who do their own thing, and change lore things sometimes.

The first leak makes no mention of Hercules, thats from other people trying to join the dots. We don't even know if Hercules or which other characters in the Eternals yet. Maybe they will cheat and make an alien the gay character.

In Hercules: Fall of Avenger, Hercules is portrayed as bisexual and there is a reference to him having slept with Northstar r280.

You are correct a later writer decided their Hercules wasn't going to be bi, but he has canonically been bi in the comics

I just want this casting announcement out already so we can start obsessing over the actor and the character. It'll be fun.

Hercules with Logan

Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso: ""Hercules and James Howlett's relationship in 'X-Treme X-Men' took place in a unique alternate universe, similar to how Colossus was gay in the Ultimate Universe, but is straight in the 616. Same goes for Hercules here.""

And that is exactly what he took so much crap for that comment, he wanted to ignore that 616 Herc had been bi too r284.

Robert Sheehan

The supposed casting leak was: actor, 30-49, who “physically looks like a superhero” for one of the film’s leads. While the studio is open to actors of all ethnicity, they would prefer the role to go to an openly gay actor.

So skinny guys like Robert Sheehan, Ben Whishaw, or very short Julian Morris are not an option.

Speaking of Wolverine, doesn't he have a son that's bisexual?

Yep, Daken R288

Thanks R289. I wonder if we'll ever get to see him on the big screen or on tv? A few years ago an actor at a convention said he wanted to play him. But I don't think he knew about Daken being bi lol

[quote]very short Julian Morris are not an option.

R287, Julian isn't 'very short' -- he's average height, a good 5'10.

He has had a small frame up until now, but as his new photo posted yesterday shows, he works out and can get ripped when he needs to:

R291 Woah! I've never seen him in such great shape before.

He's very, very beautiful, Jules is.

Richard Madden wins this hands down.

r291 Does not look physically imposing enough to play a superhero. Maybe one who gives paper cuts.

Morris looks fine but has zero personality, which isn't ideal for press tours. Richard Madden is not openly gay, nor will he ever come out as such because he has his former girlfriends' reputations and careers to think of.

I firmly believe this should go to Jonathan Bailey. Although I'd still prefer it if they went with a Latino. But how many openly gay Latinos are there? Apart from Ray Santiago, whom I suggested upthread? Wilson Cruz might be too old and is on Star Trek now.

While I can't conceive of Julian Morris' having "zero personality," I don't mind the idea of Jonny Bailey.

Zero personality and a passive vibe on top of that, which is about the worst possible combination for the first openly gay lead in a superhero movie. Must never be allowed to happen.

Oh, fuck off. He has a delightful, charming personality AFAICT. But I don't know him intimately, the way you do, r298.

Yeah, R299, the critique of Julian by R298 seems a little over the top. Plus that poster picked a young photo from Julian's twink days, instead of the new muscular photo above.

Gay isn’t enough. Gay and of color isn’t enough anymore either. You also have to be Jewish, too.

Well, Julian is Jewish, R301.

i think someone non-american like r296 suggests might be more likely. There's some out gay actors that go under the radar. I was going to suggest one from Aus, but he's already in the upcoming spiderman. But there must be more actors like that

Julian is not American, r303. He grew up in London, where his parents still live.

[quote] Although I'd still prefer it if they went with a Latino. But how many openly gay Latinos are there? Apart from Ray Santiago, whom I suggested upthread? Wilson Cruz might be too old and is on Star Trek now.

How about me?

Luke Cook (recently played Lucifer on The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina) is built, hot, and incredibly charming and funny on his Instagram. Just not sure if he’s gay yet.

r306 I've scoured his Insta yesterday but decided against mentioning him here because he has a photo mentioning his ex girlfriend. Might have been way back when he was still very young, though, who knows. His current photos could go either way.

But yes, his abs are crazy.

r305 I know the age range is officially 30-49 and Diaz is 44, but I think they'll go with someone younger.

I think Wilson Cruz & Luke Evans are too old, though Luke has the disney connection with Beauty & Beast. After all this speculation, I can just see them casting someone I don't want, like Ricky Martin. I havent watched his show to gauge his acting performance, so I don't know if he is capable or not. But he is high profile, charismatic, PoC ... i just dont want someone like him to overshadow the whole thing. Like Gaga does.

Stunt casting Ricky Martin would be gross and dismissive in this case. Marvel will want to hire a proper actor, I'm sure.

The man at r296 has a spectacularly beautiful thumb!

Does Ben Barnes want his own superhero franchise desperately enough to come out?

r311 Wait till you see his calves! He is a beautiful, beautiful man.

Yes, r313, he's quite lovely. Is he out? He's definitely pretty enough to be a superhero.

[quote]Is he out?

He is!

Luke Evans would be disappointing casting.

I admit I feel bad for thinking the same, r316.

Margot Robbie's gay brother Cameron

He's certainly thirsty, but can he act? I'd prefer the guy standing next to him for this role. What a snack.

R319 Seems to be more of a model and presenter but you don't exactly need a lot of experience for Marvel

[Quote] Luke Cook (recently played Lucifer on The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina) is built, hot, and incredibly charming and funny on his Instagram. Just not sure if he’s gay yet.

Ahh fuck i wasn't expecting spoilers.

Not really a spoiler as he shows up only in the last episode. It's not like he was playing another character undercover all season.

Why isn't Cameron Robbie in movies or TV, too much of a drunk?

Probably just not as ambitious as his sister.

Well he never sucked MY cock.

Watch it be Jonathan Bennett. You may say he's too old....

[quote]Does Ben Barnes want his own superhero franchise desperately enough to come out?

Ben pings to me, but it's hard to know for sure what his orientation is because he's so secretive and never allows anyone to photograph him in a personal/romantic situation.

We've talked about it on the Ben threads, but even though he is going to be 38 in a few months, we still know nothing about his romantic life.

R295 Does not look physically imposing enough to play a superhero.

like Paul Rudd then

R325 Who?

R328, that's a photo from 10 years ago in Julian's twink days.

Check out the photo at R291 for how he looks now.

r328 the casting leak was that they were after someone who looks physically like a superhero. Not an everyman type like Paul Rudd

Plus, Paul Rudd is 50 now, and is a straight guy married to a woman.

So he isn't a good example.

[quote]Nyle DiMarco is fluid, he isn't gay.

Dude's fuckin' deaf. May as well put him in a wheelchair.

[Quote] the casting leak was that they were after someone who looks physically like a superhero.

Which is usually the case lol

Paul Rudd played a superhero in a Marvel film and doesn't look like a superhero.

Dino Fetscher I think would be a good choice.

Dino totally has the Marvel superhero look.

Luke Evans or Russell Tovey please!

Jonathan Bailey would also be great for the part.

Like I said, Madden is the only viable option. He has the body and face for it.

Are Madden and Bailey really any more mooselike than Morris?

R341 Madden looks a bit fat and bloated these days (not uncommon for actors to gain weight between roles), but he looked amazing during Bodyguard. Watch that and you'll see he'd be a nice fit for the gay superhero role.

I think any of the three of them would make a splendiferous gay superhero, r342. Jonny's the only one who qualifies as "out and proud" at the moment, though.

Madden is ugly and he's not out.

Dino has pic n vid out there of himself getting railed. Marvel is not going to touch him.

R344 Ugly?

I would vote for anyone over Madden now, because of the Sure Jan cunt.

They're not going to cast a bisexual after teasing us for so long with the "openly gay" bit. So Madden is automatically out of the running.

Paul Rudd's character uses technology/magic to fight, same as Doctor Strange and Iron Man. Characters like that don't need to be muscular at all.

[quote] Dino has pic n vid out there of himself getting railed.

I want to see!

Brit actor, Phil Dunster (Man In An Orange Suit) posts a lot of pictures on Instagram of himself with another actor, Ryan McKen, and in one of them they are pushing a baby carriage with the caption “It’s 2017...get used to it.” It might have been meant as a joke, though.

r351 That was definitely just a joke. His Insta is that usual "keeping your options option for future gigs" I see all the time with aspiring actors, where you can't make a call either way as the photos and the captions are so carefully curated.

He looks nice, though.

*options open

r350 where is the vid?

If there isn't going to be a sex scene or a heavy make-out scene -- which there usually aren't in Marvel comic-book movies -- why does it matter?

Sean Maher in 2017...still looking good.

r355 Why does it matter that Pete Buttigieg calls himself gay if he isn't having sex with his husband in front of the cameras on the campaign trail? I can't speak for you, but I experience the world differently - and the world treats me differently - as a gay guy and that perspective certainly doesn't (solely) stem from the mere act of me inserting my cock up another guy's pipe.

Madden is neither gay or bi 'til he states it. Having said that I doubt he is bi, no bi guy is going to risk a career to come out. The gfs in all probability were beards, which is common practice for closeted gay men in film and TV.

Dan Amboyer.

R356 what a cutie. I bet it would piss Baldwin off.

yeh i think someone like r359 's Dan Amboyer.. He has the right physical look. Luke Macfarlane is still my top pick though.

Guys who arent out yet, like Madden, arent eligible. With all the politically correct fuss surrounding minority roles lately, they wont risk casting a straight person in the role. Of course, they will look into potential actors to see if they have any potential problems in their past. They want a safe investment for potential sequels

r360 Which Baldwin and why?

R362 I would assume Adam Baldwin

R362 Adam Baldin, he would bully Sean on the set of Firefly. And he's always tweeting some right wing bullshit.

I don't believe this rumor. Marvel want to sell their shit to China and other homophobic countries. Maybe I'm wrong but I'll believe it when I see it.

Mike Doyle

Kyle David Pierce. Though he already had a small role in the MCU

Luke Macfarlane is a beautiful man with a great body, but he is a mediocre actor at best, has a forgettable screen presence, and to top it off, his Canadian accent is totally out of control. I just don't think they'd go with him as first choice.

Tovey is nowhere near as cute as Luke, admittedly, but he's in great shape, a comic book fan, a solid actor with good comic timing, and did really well playing Wentworth Miller's superhero boyfriend on the Arrow shows. It wasn't a bad MCU audition, as these things go.

What is MCU?

R369 Marvel Cinematic Universe - the world of the Avengers films, Agents of SHIELD, Jessica Jones/Daredevil/The Punisher/Luke Cage, etc.

Marvel Cinematic Universe

Oh, thank you R370 R371.

Luke Macfarlane's Canadian accent can be sanded off in that lab under the Disney castle. Like I've said before, there's not much they can't do over there. As for his acting chops, well... that's another matter. He's not my top pick but I'm sure he'd work harder on this than he does on those Hallmark movies, not that those require any kind of range or special skills. That goes for anyone who gets picked in the end.

I'd be fine with Russell Tovey getting this.

Yes, let’s hire someone where we would have to spend hundreds of thousands fixing his voice in the lab post shoot.

I meant a vocal coach, not digitally fixing his voice in post, Jesus. You'd think that much would be obvious to anyone, but I guess not.

Luke trained for years in prestigious NYC acting and theater schools since he was a teenager and he's still ooting and abooting all over Killjoys. He's cute and somewhat talented, but he's absolutely not going to lead a Marvel franchise. It's just not going to happen.

This could be played by a trans POC. They could re-write the part. I'm so sick of this shit.

[quote]I meant a vocal coach, not digitally fixing his voice in post, Jesus. You'd think that much would be obvious to anyone, but I guess not.

r375 Yet what you said in r373 was

[quote]Luke Macfarlane's Canadian accent can be sanded off in that lab under the Disney castle.

Thank you, R378. How else are we to interpret lab?

r356 Marvel's pretty much confirmed this already r376 The list of out gay actors though is very small, so they will have to be less picky

I thought Marvel didn’t say they’re casting JUST out gays, but that they’d “prefer” one?

Under that ‘wording’, they leave the door wide open for themselves to cast virtually anyone. A “preference” is an advantage, but not a strict requirement or obligation. They could cast an out bisexual, ‘pansexual / fluid’, or even go for a straight if the actor is good enough.

I imagine they might audition some lesser known actors too, like they did with Tom Holland. But how would that work: would the actors put “out gay” on one’s CV?

they would get roasted by the SWJ's if they didnt cast a gay actor to play "the first gay character" in MCU. Like if they didnt get a female director for the first female-lead film, captain marvel. They have to worry about things like that these days. But I think it will be very subtly referred to in the film rather than overtly gay/etc.

R381 there's always a loophole.

R382, I think modern SJWs will see it more as an overall “queer” role. I doubt they would preclude “bisexual / fluid / pansexual” or “queer” actors from auditioning.

Could be Luke Macfarlane’s big break. He is dreamy and I miss him. He seems sweet. Wentworth Miller has been under the radar for too long and his Instagram makes me frustrated because he never posts photos of himself.

Of course, for the big screen, it seems like they always go for Neil Patrick Harris.

Maybe Chaning Tatum will finally come out to get this role, though. He has big screen experience.

Yeah, most will be okay with a bi or fluid actor, even a “mostly straight” dude, especially if a person of color.

[quote]he's still ooting and abooting all over

LOL

I’m available!!!

Where are the auditions?!

Are we in one of those periods when only paying members can post?

[Quote] Wentworth Miller has been under the radar for too long

I think his last big movie was Resident Evil. Unless you count Stoker which he wrote.

[Quote] Maybe Chaning Tatum will finally come out to get this role, though. He has big screen experience.

We're never getting that Gambit movie.

r378 Oh, brother. I was being facetious, as in: they have all sorts of equipment and experts in that lab.

I think Russel Tovey is a great actor and a very likable guy, but to cast someone like him or Luke Evans is downplaying the role as a secondary non leading man role. I think an actor as handsome if not more so than the lead male actor would be the way to go and to be more progressive.

[quote] I think an actor as handsome if not more so than the lead male actor would be the way to go

Macfarlane it is then. They need to hurry because he’s nearing 40.

Though IRL I would choose Tovey over him. Sexy BJ-handle ears. Very convenient.

[quote]Macfarlane it is then.

No. Never. I would not pay ten cents to see him in anything.

I love Luke Macfarlane. Seeing him in bad Hallmark romances brings out the swoony teen in me...except for the awkwardness of him pretending to be straight.

Just yum

Luke's booty :D

Wentworth Miller looks amazing for his age, but he is pushing 50 (turns 47 in a few weeks) and has been having unspecified health issues. He pretty much said as much that that's why he was retiring from social media except for his Instagram and that was a year ago. Since then whenever anyone's seen him in public -- only in Connecticut, and he's been seen in a few hospital waiting rooms in the area -- he's refused to take photos or talk much to anyone. He hasn't acted in nearly 2 years, by choice. A shame. I hope he's okay.

It'll be Billy Eichner - just wait and see.

It’ll be whoever puts out the most!

I wonder which lucky rich eldergay executive will head the ‘casting committee’?

Strings will be pulled, favors will be called.

R399 He's super ugly.

I do think most people don't know who is Luke Macfarlane.

No one said that the openly gay actor had to be someone everyone knew R403

r403, which is why they're probably trying to get a well-known star such as Angelina Jolie, even in a supporting role, for box-office insurance. (Though it can be argued that these comic book movies could star nobodies and still be successful, as demonstrated by Shazam!)

Angelia Jolie will be the queer actor they get for this.

R398 that's a shame. I hope it's nothing serious.

What about Steve Grand?

I'm a fan of Luke Macfarlane and I don't think he would be a good fit for the role. Mainly he's too old. He's pushing 40.

Jolie who married gay men 3 times doesn't deserve to be the queer actor they want to cast.

Gaysian, fuck yes!

This future millionaire sure looks good shirtless.

I can already see this movie will be a flop

See, wholesome Insta game pays off in the long run, bigly. Thirsty Instahoes should take note.

Martin Compston

Seriously why can't we get a gay Captain America type of guy ? We gays always have to settle for some ugly dude.

Ugly, really? I think he's adorkable and might be accepted by the (overseas) audiences even more as a result.

Do we think this rumour was put out by Marvel, to gauge the fans' reaction?

I'll bet he gets a really sentimental love story... And that's it.

Wouldn't that be enough? I mean, Marvel movies aren't really known for their sex scenes, are they?

R240 no I mean no deeper character development or storyline. All the current gays on TV seem to revolve entirely around a lameass live story.

He's one of the leads in this movie so I'm sure he's getting both character development and storyline.

Conrad is not wholesome. He is dating pornstar Josh Cockcream.

Somehow i don't see it R423. He is pretty young for Conrad though

HAHA gaysian with a white boyfriend, I've seen that a million times lol

r425 and he has European features too lol

Are they out?

Out as a couple or out as in gay? Because yes to both.

Cockcream 😭😭

Disney wouldn't want Conrad if he's connected to that porn star.

r416 Is Luke Macfarlane that type?

Gaysian you say? "Coooeee boys!"

Conrad's boyfriend is not a pornstar. How do people just come up with patently false shit like that on the spot?

Of course the gay character can't be a big muscular superhero like Thor or Captain America. Has to be sensitive. I like Conrad but isn't there a more masculine Asian gay actor out there. It' a shame because this is all we are going to get.

Not to worry, he's going to get a personal trainer from Disney to amp up his muscles to eleven. And it's not like he's got a blank slate to work with.

Muscles are the last thing I'd worry about here. And who says muscled guys can't be anything other than gruff? Look at Thor and the Whatshisface churchie - they're both goofy af.

My point is that if we are finally getting a gay superhero, why can't he be like the guy in the picture that started this thread (but Asian)

You mean the blond illustrated guy? How do you even begin to look for a real-life [italic]Asian[/italic] version of that?

Are you saying there are no muscular gay Asian men out there?

Why look for muscled Asian actors when you can just cast a good Asian actor and then juice him up? It's like casting only dark-haired people when you can always dye their hair later!

Disney does miracles when it's time to transform their actors' bodies. Did you see how stacked Brie Larson got for her movie?

Why can't he look like this?

Nah, we gays always get the weird feminine skinny ones and there's nothing wrong with that but after a while of seeing the same portrayal of gay men I'm kinda tired. This was a good opportunity to showcase a strong masculine gay dude. Conrad is a sweet kind dude but we've seen that before a million times.

Again, you haven't seen a single shot of the movie yet. An around-the-clock personal trainer and a nutritionist can do wonders between the casting announcement and the start of principal photography. It's way harder to learn how to act than to gain muscle mass in a couple of months.

Are they going to dub him too because that voice would not strike fear into any villian

It's your power set that matters in these movies, not your voice.

Maybe it's just me but I dont see him bringing the gays for this movie. It looks like they're casting a gay man to appeal to straight people rather than to gay men.

Most of the audience is made up of straight people so it only makes good business sense. At least in this case, when they have to break the ice.

Whatever the final decision, this character would never represent every gay guy in the US and across the world because that's an impossible task. Not even all the straight superheroes we've seen so far represent all the straight guys who go see these movies.

What about Jake Choi? He's gay and Asian.

r446 He's handsome but perhaps those tats turned them off? Or, you know, maybe he didn't even audition.

If we’re going Gaysian, there’s Leonardo Nam from Westworld.

r448 I was tempted to mention him several times as he's so gorgeous but I kept reminding myself that he's in the DCEU's new Swamp Thing TV series, which probably rules him out automatically.

Leo's gay??!

I mean, he never once mentions his husband on Insta for some reason, so you're probably not alone in learning that just now.

I'm more surprised by the fact that he was born and went to high school in Buenos Aires and graduated from architecture in New South Wales. His American accent in Westworld is really good because his real accent is as Australian as they come.

I already knew he was Aussie because his accent kept slipping out in Sisterhood Of The Traveling Pants. But he did look pretty great in the sequel.

Yup, bitch worked hard for that bod.

[quote]Nam recalls hearing a rumor that Warner Bros. was considering recasting his role in The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2. There was concern that Middle America wouldn’t respond to an Asian male in a romantic role, so Nam set out to make himself into a matinee idol, hitting the gym extra hard. It paid off, in more ways than one: he retained the role in the film and met his husband at the gym. “It’s a true basic-gay love story!” he jokes. They are now the proud parents of twin 18-month-old boys.

R453 thanks for posting!

Ben Whishaw

Who cares? These are pretty much garbage movies.

Of course none of this matters. There will be one throw away scene where he mentions an ex boyfriend to establish he's gay and then that's it.

R457 Yep, no need to get our hopes up, this is just gay pandering/queer baiting 101.

So many Cassandras in this thread...

[Quote] So many Cassandras in this thread...

I'm guessing it's a bad thing that i don't get this reference......?

R460 Old school elderqueen reference that was popular back when datalounge was started, I'd imagine as a young person who's been here for a year, they also use nelly, mary and another one that I forgot.

I nominate Tyler Blackburn now that he's out. He will look even better after a few months in the gym. He has a cute face. He just needs to build his body.

R462 Very good looking, is he gay ?

R463 He's out as bi.

R464 Sigh..

r461 Yes, only eldergays know about Greek mythology. You heard it here first!

You and r460 really should crack open a book now and then. Or just keep your mouth shut next time to spare yourselves the embarrassment.

R465 I know, but I think he's legit bi, or even a gay leaning bisexual. He's currently dating a guy.

Surely R461 was a troll.

Tyler Blackburn has come out queer (identifying as bisexual in the past) and Marvel is casting for a gay actor. But sure, we'll all the same anyway, so who cares.

*come out as queer

Yeah, does bisexual count if they're looking for an openly "gay" actor?

R471 Hope not, if it's not the trans it's the bisexuals trying to bully gay men/women into accepting them.

[quote]I mean, he never once mentions his husband on Insta for some reason, so you're probably not alone in learning that just now.

When they had their baby shower, he only posted a picture of twin strollers and thanked well wishers. Didn't tag his husband. One of his friends made a comment about the husband and how happy they were for them and then suddenly the post was taken down. I think he's only posted a picture of his husband once. A group shot of them with his husband's twin brother.

Pretty sad if he doesn't want to be seen publicly with his own husband.

Ricamora is already a member of house of mouse, so it's not exactly shocking if he is cast. If they want a gaysian, then he's their safest choice. And fans love him in the only good for one and a half seasons How to Get Away with Murder.

Kristen Stewart - out as bi

Ben Whishaw - Gay

Kristen Stewart is out as gay. She literally said "I'm so gay" on national television as her official coming out.

R477??????

Aren't they doing a Hawkeye movie with Jeremy.

TV series, not movie R479

Lee Pace

R477 Kristen Stewart: ‘It's not confusing if you’re bisexual. For me, it’s the opposite’

R477 so gay

So gay to Trump to like her. She's bi.

You'd have to be seriously dumb to think KStew faked that affair with Rupert Sanders.

R484 Some DLers are that dumb.

Richard Madden in talks to join The Eternals!

R486 is that good or bad? I've never seen Richard in anything.

Madden is not out.

Richard's bi/gayness is implied.

Richard Madden is living in LA with Sam Smith's ex, Brandon Flynn:

......

R490 Yes but still not out publicly.

'Arrow' star Ben Lewis urges Marvel to cast a LGBTQ actor as the MCU's first ever LGBTQ superhero

marvel give me a gigantic pain in my hole.

He doesn't seem to have any shirtless pics, that Sam Salter can get it.

Richard Madden confirmed to play Ikaris

r496 Thank god those RM&BF threads are gone because DL would have gone into meltdown right now.

[quote]Angelina Jolie, Richard Madden, Kumail Nanjiani, Lauren Ridloff, Brian Tyree Henry, Salma Hayek, Lia McHugh and Don Lee all set to star.

No word on the first openly gay actor, wtf?

R498 They probably pussied out, unsurprisingly. (Unless R. Madden is about to come out but I highly, HIGHLY doubt that.)

[quote]Unless R. Madden is about to come out but I highly, HIGHLY doubt that.

r499 That's not happening so I think you're right - they must've pussied out. I can't believe we've been had, AGAIN. And after two almost full threads worth of speculation. I let myself go down that road of hoping that this time will be different every fucking time...

We all know if there is an openly gay actor, he's not going to be a main character or at least one that has top billing.

r501 But look at the cast list at r498 - Lia McHugh is a fucking child actor and she got mentioned in the presser! So how much smaller of a role can it possibly be?

There is no openly gay character or openly gay actor. I watched tonight. The Eternals will instead feature the first disabled superhero played by an actual disabled actor. I guess that's what they substituted in place of the gay stuff.

I hope the gay press and gay Twitter rips Marvel to shreds for this

It would be hilarious though if Marvel/Disney actually just outed Richard Madden.

[quote]The Eternals will instead feature the first disabled superhero played by an actual disabled actor. I guess that's what they substituted in place of the gay stuff.

I will forever stan the inclusion of disabled people, but I cannot believe they swapped us out, just like that. Fuck them. I will never see this fucking movie.

People are saying that Richard's character is supposed to be gay, even though he's not in the comics. Who knows really.

R506 For real. It's like "oh let's find a more family friendly minority"! They know redneck conservative trash is their bread and butter, plus China.

R505 More like they will tell him to tone it down and get back in the closet.

Do make up your mind, either they want openly out character/actor or they're forcing back in the closet? It can't be both.

R510 can't read. They don't want an openly gay character. There isn't one.

r508 And Madden is now the perfect half-measure to deflect any criticism that they changed their minds.

And yes, I did just call a bisexual actor (in a straight role!) a half-measure. Sue me. This is not what we were told would happen. So fucking frustrating, and after statement upon statement saying that it's time, and now they're leaning into Valkyrie's "first LGBTQ+ character" confirmation as the Big Gay News instead.

Jolie is a closet lesbian cunt, maybe she'll give an interview about being fluid or some shit.

R512 That was bullshit too. She basically made a joke about finding a queen if she was king. It was stupid.

Also the cast is old as fuck, jolie is 44 and hayek is 53 they'll look like mummies by the third film so what are they even trying to do with this cast?

Not all movies are meant to be trilogies

Surely they wouldn't make just one Eternals movie? Seems crazy to introduce that whole new mythology and then just drop it.

Marvel are cowards.

At this rate DC will beat them with not only an openly gay movie character, but also an openly gay actor.

So Madden is coming out then or did Marvel backtrack?

Marvel basically lied to get gay support.

I should never see another Marvel movie again.

Keanu was heavily rumored as the villain and hasn’t been announced yet. Supposedly a few roles are still to be announced, including a love interest for Madden. Maybe the gay character/actor is yet to be officially cast. There’s so many goddamn people in this movie though, I’m betting if a gay character does make it in it’ll be a barely there supporting role.

It will be Luke Evans as Hercules; and hopefully Eva Green as Sersi after all.

r524 If they managed to strike a deal with Salma and Angelina (and bring them both to the stage!), why are they still negotiating with Evans and Green, then? Keanu I understand because he's Keanu. But those two? What's there to discuss still?

[Quote] It would be hilarious though if Marvel/Disney actually just outed Richard Madden.

It's suss that he was papped again at a well known restaurant with the ex-Mrs Sam Smith (Kanye & Wife were papped leaving by the rear as well), a day or two before this con appearance.

Did Richard bring Brandon in tow to Comic-Con?

R526 It's not really "sus" as it's a celebrity-heavy restaurant constantly crowded with paparazzi. It's actually quite obvious what they were doing. Regardless, Marvel made a big deal out of looking for openly out gay actors for the gay superhero role. If they go with Madden he'll have to come out or they'll look like they went back on what they said.

Maybe Marvel are satisfied with one of their actors being glass closeted. The general public mightn't know but the type to engage in stan wars certainly do.

[Quote] It's actually quite obvious what they were doing.

Not to fangirls. The only acceptable narrative is that those gay blades are "just living their life, carefree". Any suggestion that there's orchestration/strategy involved, the fangirls lose their shit.

R530 Of course, isn't that their job? Honestly I don't doubt they are a real couple. However they are also actors, and actors are often thirsty for publicity. Fangirls are just going to have to live with that. Not everything in life is a romance novel.

Maybe Richard will come out during the press tour for the movie and be like "How did you not know? I've been with Brandon for months!"

I think you could say the same for many (most) of these HW relationships - outside the showmances they're still used for publicity either keeping the participants in the news or selling 'the dream'

R524 I just heard today that Hercules really has nothing to do with the Eternals and was only brought up during the rumors because he was an "openly gay" character. So he's probably not even gonna be in the movie.

Speaking of the rumors, did they ever actually say that the character was going to be male? I can't remember.

There was also talks about the gay actor being Asian

r535 Yeah, that rumour (commented on by Conrad himself and discussed upthread) was either bullshit from the start or it was true but they ultimately decided against it and went for the disabled minority instead. So gross.

Look, they're going to hire some no name Asian gay actor for a forgettable bit part to appease us.

Disney has their con, D23 next month, maybe they'll announce more casting then

It's almost like they were using the gay community for press.

R538 this is very likely. I've read somewhere that 3 actors and their roles are still not annonced yet. Maybe one of them is the supposedly openly actor playing a gay character. If it's not Madden and they just wait that long to announce that, though.

Maybe they didn't want to announce it with Madden on stage. Salma Hayek emphasised the diversity aspect in her speech (a woman as head of the Eternals, a woman directing the movie, gesturing to the different hues on stage etc.). It might be a little awkward to have an LGBT actor onstage talking about their status as an out actor because I've read that Madden might not be straight or open about that.

Madden for sure isnt straight. He has a bf [in case you don't know this] and has not denied being in a relationship with a man when asked directly in the NYTimes. I'd say glass closeted towards open but private. And yes, announcing him as the out LGBTQ actor at SDCC would have felt as if Marvel had outed him instead a coming out on his own terms.

And yes, the entire cast is remarkable diverse. Love this. And for the rest I guess we'll just have to wait and see [and hope].

An out gay actor should have gotten the Ikaris role. What's it about rewarding closet cases like Madden ??

What about Luke Macfarlane or that other guy who is gay too?

Louie Anderson?

[quote]Madden for sure isnt straight. He has a bf [in case you don't know this] and has not denied being in a relationship with a man when asked directly in the NYTimes. I'd say glass closeted towards open but private.

Agree. And I wouldn't say that Madden is a 'closet case' like many others, who are burying themselves in the closet with ridiculous beardings and embarrassing 'I'm not gay' interviews.......

For example, Sam Heughan is a real closet case -who could have been cast in The Eternals if the initial rumors were true..

Wasn't the Ikaris character supposed to have a romantic thing with Angelina Jolie's character, judging by the rumours? Or has one in the comics? I wouldn't mind that character being bisexual and played by a bisexual actor like Madden, but it's still a climbdown from what we've been promised.

r538 Hopefully that's the case.

It wasn't rumored that Angelina Jolie was playing Sersi and would be the love interest of Ikaris, but we now know that rumor was bullshit, as Jolie is not even playing Sersi.

Who is playing Sersi? Is Jolie the villain?

They haven't said who is playing Sersi yet, a major part; still hoping it's Eva Green.

Angelina was rumoured to play Elysius. She's now playing Thena. Sersi hasn't been cast (yet).

No, Jolie was definitely rumored to play Sersi. Even big name outlets like Hollywood Reporter were saying that

[quote]Jolie is understood to be playing the character named Sersi, a more outgoing Eternal who has not been afraid to move amongst humankind.

But whoever plays Sersi should in theory be the love interest of Ikaris, maybe they will gender bend the role and cast a man! I doubt it, but I'll keep the hope alive.

r551 I know, I mentioned the rumour in that long rumour list posted in the other thread, which is half accurate and half not.

Just found this rumour/leak for the D23 event that r538 mentioned.

[quote]Zachary Quinto is in negotiations to play a major role in the MCU and may appear in upcoming films.

So that might be the gay role we're waiting for. Blah but still better than Madden, honestly.

I don't think Quinto is a blah actor. He was quite good in AHS Asylum.

Is Jolie's actual role smaller or of equal size to Sersi in the comics?

Up at r231 I remember posting that when we had our first thread about Richard Madden/Brandon Flynn being boyfriends. Flashforward three months later and he is actually starring in The Eternals. Though still not officially out (yet)

That man is quite awkward. I don't see him coming out. Not for a role. If he gets married or something, like Ben Whishaw did, I could see it.

r553 He's a good actor but a blah choice in this case, in my opinion. Give me some new blood already. Someone like Jonathan Bailey! He'd do it for cheap as well.

r555 I feel like coming out as bisexual shouldn't be this protracted an affair. I mean, it's really not that big of a deal.

It is in the wider world.

The wider world has no idea who he is so wouldn't care who he sleeps with. It's just bisexuals being extra dramatic, as per the uzh.

I can sympathise, though. Lots of people use the bi shield. It must rankle, particularly to bi's themselves.

554, in the comics, Thena and Sersi are the two most prominent female Eternals, with Thena probably having a slight edge in the Eternals own series. Her main plot arc is a long-standing romance with Kro, a leading member of the rival misshapen Deviant race, and they have children. In Marvel comics more broadly Sersi is more prominent, thanks to a lengthy run as a member of the Avengers, and as being a livelier and more fun character generally, so was given more guest appearances.

So who will be Sersi? Emilia Clarke?

R562 No? Hopefully they choose someone who can actually act.

They really don't need Sersi now. They gender flipped three characters with this casting announcement, creating a balanced cast. Any more characters and there will be little room for story. They need a villain, Kro is the only Deviant i can name. Quinto could play him, though in the comics he has a relationship with Angelina's character.

Everyone assumed whoever played Ikaris would be playing the gay character, because the character is drawn as young, handsome and fit. Ikky has never been anything but hetero. Outside the X-Men there are not that many gay characters in these sections of the Marvel universe to cast.

An openly gay actor playing a gay... Deviant? I---...

R564 I think people assumed Ikaris would be the gay character only because Madden is playing him. I'm guessing it will be another character they haven't introduced yet, though

It'll be another 30 second bit part, just you wait.

It better not be fug Quinto ! He's too fucking annoying and crappy actor. And those eyebrows, THOSE EYEBROWS!!!

It better be Madden and a cute pocket gay

Oh, yeah. Quinto's the fug one...

An Asian gay man is NOT gonna fly in the all important China movie going market

It will be Richard Madden

Not even a Filipino?

Filipinos are universally despised by other Asian cultures...so I guess it could be

"Otherness", in this situation, is a bonus to studio marketing execs

Alec Mapa IS an Eternal!

They'd be stupid not to use Sersi. She's the only interesting Eternal.

D23 is not far away. If they have more characters to announce, they'd be smart to do it there since they're supposed to start filming very soon.

In the comics the Eternals are all supposed to be the pinnacle of human standards of beauty.

[Quote] the Eternals are all supposed to be the pinnacle of human standards of beauty.

I guess they'll be using the LucyMAME filter on you-know-who.

R576 In the comics, Makkari and Ajak are male characters.

They didn't even announce their gay casting and already looking for a trans actor

How stringent are the Marvel producers about... verification...?

another actor is reportedly cast, but I don't think this guy is gay either

r581 Yeah, he's straight. In related news, Gemma Chan is also in talks to join.

Here's Queerty being dumb and saying Marvel confirmed Richard for the gay role, even though that never happened.

Jeez. Is Gemma Chan the only cast member that doesn't look dog rough?

Yes I was looking to see if Queerty is saying they got a tip, but they literally don't have anything they cite r583.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised, Queerty is pretty trash.

Gay character confirmed.

[quote]JUST IN: @MarvelStudios president to @Ginger_Zee: “#TheEternals will feature Marvel’s first openly gay character...he’s married and has a family and it’s part of who he is.”

Now we wait and see if he's played by a gay actor.

Maybe this is an entre to Richard coming out?

Odds of it being a side character with minimal screen time.

r587 Richard is bisexual. It'll probably be some other out gay actor.

They've been saying for months that the movie will have an openly gay lead character and that cast has been announced and set, so there isn't anyone else coming. Couple that with the rumor(?) that they wanted an "openly gay" or whatever actor for said role, really the only option is Richard Madden, which is why that is what the internet is running with, even though there's been no confirmation and he's not (at the moment, at least) openly anything.

If it's just relegated to some unannounced minor character with shit for screen time, that would unbelievable bullshit. (Although we should probably learn to expect that by now.)

Above all, I don't understand the secrecy. Just fucking tell us who the actor playing him is already. Casting is over, so what's the problem?

Cersi will be with Kit Harrington's character - but they still could do a love triangle with Madden x Cersi too. Ugh. Maybe Kumail or Brian will be the gay character. Which is what we've seen on tv already. The PoC side character, like Mr Terrific on Arrow. I want a HW Heartthrob/leading man type, someone like Evans/ Hemsworth/Chadwick Boseman etc to be the gay lead.

I also disagree with what someone posted here about Hercules. The Eternals will be key historical figures and mythology, Hercules could be altered to fit in with that. Yes, maybe comic lore is this and that specifics but Feige likes to simply things for the MCU.

This is getting exhausting. Articles online keep claiming he's playing the gay character but there's still no "official" confirmation.

They obviously want a bit of mystery so they won't reveal who it is until after the movie comes out.

r593 I know, and DL is full of those people as well. They're just setting themselves up for disappointment, but what can you do about it. 🤷‍♂️

[quote]“I think it’s hugely important, just the cast is so diverse. I’m a white male actor and not in the majority of this cast. I’m the minority, which is important in terms of diversity in filmmaking. I think Marvel are really at the forefront of that.”

Madden's quote on the matter couldn't be clearer. He's NOT the diversity hire.

[quote]They obviously want a bit of mystery so they won't reveal who it is until after the movie comes out.

But why is the gay character the one who needs mystery? Why the double standard, unless they're afraid of China?

r595 Is his quote that clear on the matter? He says he's minority among the cast, that might mean he's the gay character. I don't think it's clear at all.

r597 It's perfectly clear - he's in the minority by the virtue of being the straight white guy, because the cast is so diverse. And so the diverse cast makes the majority in this movie. He'd never say that if he were the gay character, especially because Marvel has had no gay male characters.

He says white male, not white straight male. As for diverse, very likely the rest of the cast is straight so gay is a minority. Which may apply to him.

[quote]“I think it’s hugely important, just the cast is so diverse. I’m a white male actor and not in the majority of this cast. I’m the minority, which is important in terms of diversity in filmmaking. I think Marvel are really at the forefront of that.”

I take his statement to mean that he doesn't want to put his whiteness - whether it's straight or gay whiteness - at the forefront when you have a Latina, African American, Eurasian, Pakisani, Korean, and a hearing impaired Afro-Latina in the cast. That's the diversity he's referring to as that has been the push in the industry for the last few years.