Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Best Rehabilitation Tuesday (since it was non-existent) Ever!

There is just so much to digest daily about the "alleged" treasonous activities of Pres Bone Spurs and fam.

-Nukes to the Saudis (what could go wrong)

-Wanted to interfere in the SDNY investigations

Just today!

[Quote] Best Rehabilitation Tuesday (since it was non-existent) Ever!

Have you seen the alleged gays on the Decriminalization of Homosexuality thread? They are a-singing his praises and how they knew "all along" that Trump as an ally and savior to the gays.

r6 I read about 10 posts on that thread and stopped. It probably is just the usual trolls (Russian and self-loathing right wing gays) who have nothing better to do than cream their jeans fapping for Pres Bone Spurs. There is a huge contrarian streak in many gay man, sadly. If they are so fucking stupid to give this asshole, buffoon, conman ANY credit about anything they deserve hyena laughter.

Well, one of the posters who is always in these Mueller threads posted "Can't we just admit that this was a good thing that he did even if we hate him for everything else?"

One of our longtime multiple posters.

r8 Ugh. No, we cannot give him any credit even if he stumbles on doing something right. No. No. No. No. Ever. He is such a terrible, horrible human being, "president" and he never does anything for the right reasons. You don't give an INCH to scum like him. He isn't normal. We can't treat anything he does as normal.

Please. For Trump to publicly announce this is nothing. There is absolutely no muscle behind it. It is another PR stunt. I cannot understand how people don't get that by now. Everything he does is a PR stunt lacking in substance. From his meeting/photo op with Kim Jong WTF, to his declaration of emergency. It's all bullshit and so is this. Do you think for one minute he will DO anything to the countries who are gay haters? Hell Russi is not only homophobic, but violently anti Gay. So are the Saudis. THis was a dig at Iran, but it's meaningless.

Rehabilitation Tuesday has moved to Thursday this week. Miss Lindsey is having her vapors today.

Well OP, thanks for posting the cartoon sketch rather than a photo of the real thing.

[quote]Well, one of the posters who is always in these Mueller threads posted "Can't we just admit that this was a good thing that he did even if we hate him for everything else?"

The only reason Trump did that is not to protect gays but to hurt Iran. In this case, it works in favor of gays but 1) it may be just words on paper; 2) he may turn against gays in many other ways.

Bottom-line: it's always self-serving and always dangling a group of people as a carrot.

Thanks OP

Good lawd, Kellyanne is on Cuomo now.

Cuomo let's that Kellyanne thing filibuster.

OP has posted a haunting, yet strangely accurate, depiction of what I hope will become an endangered species, the Huckabeast.

Gotta say... I'm over Eric Swallwell. I hope he doesn't run for President. I don't like his mouth.

R18, there was a thread when he announced. I think there were about 30 replies. I've never seen him mentioned again.

Mc Cabe is on with Lawrence O Donnell!

I'll admit it.

Kellyanne Conway emits a tractor beam that I get caught in. I'm immobilized watching and listening to her even while I want to flee in horror.

The comments to the Times's big story from today are great. We're not alone in our disgust and awareness of what's going on.

Watching McCabe on Lawrence...holy shit, I need to read his book!!

McCabe looks like he stepped right out of 1963.

I like his voice. McCabe. Gentle.

McCabe is very well spoken.

Just an aside. An update.

McCabe is a true professional. I am very impressed by him. Lawrence really tried to get him to spill and leak and he tells it like it is without falling for it.

CNN is amoral.

So Trump drags another one into the gutter: Whitaker. Of course in order to take a job in this administration you'd have to be a fucking idiot who does not comprehend that Trump will drag you down into the gutter with him, so it's a nice full circle.

r29 I won't watch them.

CNN makes me feel sick when I watch it. So much fighting. Toxic like Fox.

Was the Mike Flynn/ Saudi seal a recent endeavor or was this from the campaign days?

deal

Just found Matt Kiser's WTFJHT blog:

R34, it started when Flynn was working on the campaign, then the transition team, then as NSA in the White House. They were told it was illegal to be selling the technology to the Saudis and eventually they backed off. But it came up again because some whistleblowers in the Department of defense alerted the media and the House intelligence Committee or the Oversight Committee that it appears the deal is still active.

IMO, I would bet that sniveling piece of shit bastard MBS in Saudi Arabia wants it and has been pressing to resurrect the deal. All these whores out there like MBS and Putin and WTF ever, know they have a live one. THey know Trump is for sale and will little strip this country for its spare parts to personally enrich himself and his family. He is rotten to the core. Not only is he unfit to serve, which, at this point is an understatement, he is unfit to breathe the same air as other human beings.

R34.

Want to say that right now you have an immoral weak former lobbyist as acting Secretary of Defense, and it would be typical that he would allow this kind of slimy deal because when Mattis was there this would have been soundly dismissed and there would be no way it would gain traction. Mattis's departure really opened the floodgates of corruption.

When trump goes, no matter when or how, there will be such loud shouts of celebration he will be sure to hear it. I want to see him sling away in shame as the world dances in pure joy at his departure.

Slink away ^

Someone needs to talk to Trump and make him understand he has to resign before the sky caves in. So many unsavory corrupt nasty types are heavily invested in him they wish he would be President forever.

While some people think it is chilling, and I agree, that when McCabe reported about the Intel people briefing Trump about North Korea's missiles,& Trump responded "Putin says no" and they disagreed, and he said he believed Putin, I had a different take. I think Trump doesn't like to be lectured to. He thinks he knows everything and has his own sources and he knows things no one else knows. He has shown that side hundreds of times about all kinds of stuff. So IMO, yes it was chilling because he rejected his own Intel in favor of a foreign adversary. But I think it was because he has this very basic flaw in his mental state. it goes to the heart of why he is unfit for office.

He likes ratings so lets tell him if he announces his resignation for treason on live TV it will garner worldwide ratings unlike anything ever witnesses before and it will stand the test of time!

Only to be beat later by his public hanging for treason. Shhh we won't tell him that.

Trump won't resign until Putin tells him to.

There is no reasoning with Trump. With Nixon, a group of republican senators went to him and told him it was over. If he didn't resign, they would impeach him. If republican senators did that to Trump, he'd have Putin leak dirt on them. They don't have the courage to do it. Rachel mentioned that the SDNY has something up it's sleeve to indict Trump even if Mueller won't. Said it was an exclusive that they were working on and would be made public later this week.

I totally expect Dan Coates the DNI to get fired this week. Then we have acting DNI and Acting Secretary of Defense. With all that is happening today, it seems like Trump might do this to draw attention somewhere other than his criminal acts.

He Is dismantling the entire Intelligence apparatus of our government. This is criminal and the fact that the Senate doesn't act to stop him and insist permanent department heads are appointed and the departments are fully staffed is just insane. If Mueller doesn't include some members of Congress in his batch of indictments I will be shocked.

It's going to take the entire four years of a Democratic administration just to get Trump's fucking disaster cleaned up. I can't even imagine how poorly these departments are being run. This is what I picture this administration leaving behind for the Dems to clean up...

Refuse to watch Cuomo now that he keeps bringing on Kellyanne Conway. And I was a fan of his!

Dems always have to clean to after those monsters. Obama cleaned up for W, and Trump gets the credit.

R49, same here. Why are they always having that liar on? MSNBC is my favorite now. It's a positive experience.

I'm not loving Ken Dilanian on MSNBC. He seems vested in telling the narrative that Mueller may not pan out as expected. He had a story last week basically saying this and it got lots of push back. He seems to be doubling down on it. He was on Deadline: Whitehouse with Nicole Wallace. She had all these IC experts who were supporting McCabe and Mueller. They were saying the pieces were finally starting to come together and Dilanian had to pour cold water on them and kept cautioning that the investigation may not actually lead to collusion. Wallace shut him down a bit by listing all the things Trump has done to assist Putin/Russia. She said why would Trump do this unless he was getting something for it. He's not ideological on anything other than himself so there has to be a reason and Mueller knows what it is. He was also spouting the same BS on Andrea Mitchell. Glad Rachel doesn't have him on often.

I think Saudi Arabia is going to play an important factor in the Trump demise. Jared gave list of enemies to crown prince. Flynn was trying to sell nuclear power plants to a country with a huge oil reserve. Why would they need nuclear power plants? Murder in Turkey which Trump ignored. I read a while back that Mueller had expanded into other countries influence. I think this was what was meant. SA was first country Trump visited. Images of the leaders around that glowing ball thing. Weird. Weird. Weird.

That fast yapper, but no rapper, Callieann on Cuomo needs her own pussy thread just like the Huckabeat.

I'm with r29 & not watching CNN anymore.

CNN loves to feature Bernie Sanders and host Kellyanne.

Maybe "eye candy" is their thing.

There are a few people on CNN I like. I will always be loyal to Anderson Cooper. Jeffrey Toobin is my favorite in house lawyer. Dave Gergen and Gloria Borger are good at analysis and I watch Dana Bash (yes I do) and John King.I can even put up with Wolf Blitzer. John BErman is decent in the morning (Although Robin Roberts and Little George are my favorites in the morning.) That's once or twice a month.it.Period. I wanted to like Chris Cuomo, but I just can't. It isn't just his ridiculous discussions with Kelly Anne Conway.It's his personality, his ego. I don't like him. I mostly avoid CNN unless I can watch a video clip of Anderson or Jeffrey Toobin.

On MSNBC, I like almost everyone. Well, Nicole Wallace gets on my nerves sometimes. Her voice. She needs a speech/vocal coach. Too shrill. Ditzy. So we're down to twice a week with her. Not crazy about Ari Melber. Yes, he's hot, but he knows it, and he seems too frivolous. And IMO Ari's embrace of Sam Nunberg, while more amusing than Kelly Anne, is just as bad as Chris Cuomo. Never watch Mika and Joe. Ever.

Chris Matthews is a character. But sometimes it's fun to watch him, just not every night. More like once or twice a month if that. Matthews has introduced me to some new journalists and commenters, Howard Fineman is a fixture in Washington D.C. He is really wired to the gossip and the machinations of Congress.

Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O Donnell are just about the best there is. And Natasha Bertrand of Atlantic Magazine goes after Dilanian on twitter and on TV regularly. Overall MSNBC has some of the best Legal consultants. Barbara McQuade and Joyce Vance, Charles Rosenberg, and Maya Wiley are superb.

As of yesterday, I'm cutting way back on my viewing in general. There is no way I can stomach Bernie Sanders. I get physically ill at the sound of his voice. 11/9 2016, traumatized me, and he brings back the painful memories of election night. Painful.

I would love Jeffrey Tobin on MSNBC. My daily watch list is Nicolle Wallace and Lawrence. I listen to the previous nights Rachel & 11th hour at work every am.

I hate Ari, Chris Hayes annoys me and Chris Matthews interrupts too much for me to watch. CNN I will listen to Wolf Blitzer on the way home sometimes but that's it. Tired of the GOP liars constantly showcased on CNN.

R57, Nicolle Wallace is not in any way, 'ditzy'. The lady worked in the White House and has degrees. Shrill is a matter of opinion; that's very much in the same vein as judging female presidential candidates based on their so-called 'likeability', and just as irrelevant.

Love the lady experts on MSNBC. Give me Jill Joyce and Barbara

I’m loyal to Anderson Cooper as well. Jeffery Tobin and Rachel are top notch. Agree, Chris Mathews is unwatchable for me because he interrupts and any guest he has loses his/her train of thought.

I remember a poster a couple of threads ago who commented that there is a really sinister backstory about the picture of Trump and the glowing orb and it would come out soon. I wonder if the poster meant that Saudi Arabia deal which was still going on behind the scenes?

R62 that photo is sinister and comical at the same time. These people are like comic book villains, except they really do murder people, and yes I'm putting Trump right there with them. The American people need to wake up. Where the fuc is the outrage? Trump's in bed with monsters, and he and JAred are involved in a scheme to sell our nuclear technology to the Saudis? I think the grand scheme involved Jared's embrace of MBS rushing over there to share our top secret intelligence so that MBS could round up his wholefucking family and subordinates in a coup to take over. Now he's imprisoning people, murdering people and trying to get his hands on our technology. Jared should be in prison. He can embrace anyone he wants but he ought to do it bent over, in a jail cell.

R62s photo is probably the creepiest and most frightening photo I've ever seen.

Cuomo just likes having guests at whom he can yell. He's so macho and guido!

I want to tickle Cuomo's balls, then enter his hole presented to me.

My throbbing cock will teach him manners by instilling them right into his wannabe macho / guido ass.

Rampant ego runs in the Cuomo family. Andrew is worse.

On Lawrence O'Donnell's show last night, Carl Bernstein commented that Kellyanne calling McCabe a "known liar" was "a narrative in itself." That was way too mild. He should be able to make a stronger statement than that. The DC press people are generally too kind to her.

They're kind to her because she feeds them. She's a leaker.

Such a parasitic relationship.

I was watching CNN without sound yesterday at work and I read something scrolling that said Trump is a Russian asset. It was while that hag Conway was talking.

Thank god our head boss man doesn’t allow Fox to be turned on

Rick Wilson:

It's Wednesday, or as I like to call it, Roger Stone's last 24 hours of freedom.

I’m waaaaaaay behind here, but did the Times cite a source for Whitaker's quote about Trump wanting him to interfere with the SDNY investigation? Did Sweaty McBaldo say it to the reporter himself?

[quote]Love the lady experts on MSNBC. Give me Jill Joyce and Barbara

Joyce is so soothing to listen to. She's like your cool aunt who's smart about politics.

Stephanie Miller just said that Rachel Maddow will report that SDNY is investigating whether they can "indict a sitting president" separate from the Mueller investigation. She referred to Maddow Blog, but I don’t see anything about it there yet.

Kellyanne, being a leaker, contributes to the stench. She may be too very to do otherwise,, but she really needs to start using adult Depends regularly.

^vain, not very

That cartoon in the OP is savage. Huckabeast looks like Charles Laughton in a stringy wig.

When you talk about the lady experts on MSNBC, don't forget about Maya Wiley and the blonde with the long hair who looks like she's dealing with a hangover. I love her. She is knowledgeable and smart and a hot mess. Like she hasn't slept in 48 hours preparing for court... They are all incredibly impressive. If I were forced to choose a favorite I couldn't. As far as I'm concerned MSNBC has the whole Mueller/RUssia thing locked down, and now that CNN has hired that disgusting woman to head up their political coverage, I guess MSNBC will also lock down the campaigns.

That’s Cynthia Alksne, former federal prosecutor. Here’s her latest Tweet:

"Trump has put Whittaker in a vice. Whittaker knows Nadler has a witness that Trump called him to complain/harass about SDNY, perhaps including installing a friendly prosecutor. Trump denies any such call happened- fake news. Now he has to choose. Best of luck."

CNN has sucked balls for a very long time. Of course there are a few gems on there, but NO.

I have been hooked on MSNBC since 2015/16, and it only gets better and better. I have conflicting thoughts on Ari having Nunberg on. If someone is simply exploiting an evil person for bigger ratings, fuck that shit. But Nunberg has his tail between his legs right now, so he is more an object of interest, combined with the fact that Ari generally has on guests who would not get attention anywhere else, particularly POC, and I love him for that. Sure, Ari is smarmy as hell, but he also has a quirky sense of humor and is quite self-deprecating and self-aware at times, so it can actually be pleasant and witty.

Anyway, MSNBC is where it’s at right now. They have a VERY nice *balance* of representation of both sides, but the Conservatives they have on are not the insane racists, Trumpers. And quite frankly, the vast majority of Conservatives they have on have left the party and now call themselves independents. They are “thinking” Conservatives. I actually feel like we are seeing an interesting merging, a true alliance forming with all of the Thinking Conservatives who despise Trump and his base into our Progressive body. They are looking for a home, and I think they are starting to see the light that Progressive values are almost totally in sync with their values. It’s very interesting.

And to the poster who calls Nicolle a ditz, do you actually watch her??? She is the polar opposite of a ditz. The View fired her for not knowing what a Kardashian is!!!

Maggie Haberman on Trump's twitter-claim that "The writers don't even call asking for verification":

"That's a lie...We went through a detailed list of what we were planning on reporting. They chose not to engage."

Re: Ken Dilanian. Read about his tenure with the LA Times and how they "disowned" his muckraking ass for being a CIA "employee". He would run all of his intelligence stories through the CIA for approval. He's a creep and always has been. MSNBC will fire his ass sooner rather than later. I don't listen to a word that fuckwad says. Now Nicole Wallace-her show Deadline White House is a show I never miss. Or I try not to miss. She is no holds barred when it comes to Trump and the chicken shit GOP.

.[quote]The View fired her for not knowing what a [Kardashian is!!!

Good enough for me.

Big take away this week on Rachel, Trump NEVER FIRED FLYNN.

Trump waited around for him to resign.

Now we know he was probably working on the sale of those Nuclear plants to Saudi A.

The Saudis want a bomb THAT badly.

I wonder how far Jared moved the deal?

DL Fave Seth Abramson is constantly calling out Dilanian's hackishness on his Twitter feed.

So is Natasha Bertrand from The Atlantic, R85.

If they can put a Tennessee professor in jail for letting a Chinese National look at an airport part they sure better be able to put in jail everyone involved with giving nuclear secrets to the 16 out of 19 hijackers, Wahabi exporting freakin Saudis.

But...but...what about Uranium one?

CNN: Mueller report may be delivered as early as next week. Is this just CNN being CNN (hey, we gotta fill time) or is this legit?

Can the investigations continue after he issues a report? Look. I want Trump indicted. And his family. I don't care if Pence is POTUS for 18 months. I don't even care if Pence pardons all of them. I do know once they are convicted they will be stripped of their assets. So they can travel to world penniless and see how many of their "friends" help them? THey will be persona non grata here. Pariahs. There will not be a restaurant or a store or an office complex they can go into and expect safety and courtesy. They will be literally hounded to death. Good.

R89 Countdown to the Letdown.

Uranium One. Don't worry Lindsay Graham will get to the bottom of it. Along with those pesky emails. Still remember the repugs grilling her for almost 12 hours on Benghazi and spending $8 million. Their final report finding no significant wrongdoing was filed on Christmas Eve where it was basically buried. Don't really understand why they targeted Clinton other than she was running for president. She didn't control embassy security budget. Congress had denied her request for increased funding for security and she wasn't Secretary of Defense who was tasked with responding to the terrorist. Now, that was a witch hunt.

The February troll might actually be vindicated if the report is released next week!

I would think before the final report is released you would see some additional indictments for at minimum Jared and Don Jr.,

So CNN has decided to join the dark side.

I hope viewers leave in droves and Zucker is left sucking his lower lip! I won't be watching but I feel bad for some of the talent. They didn't ask for this. But the only power we have is to turn them off.

Attorney General Bill Barr is preparing to announce as early as next week the completion of Robert Mueller's Russia investigation, with plans for Barr to submit to Congress soon after a summary of Mueller's confidential report, according to people familiar with the plans.

The preparations are the clearest indication yet that Mueller is nearly done with his almost two-year investigation. The precise timing of the announcement is subject to change.

I hate Zucker. He was horrible as NBC Entertainment boss and should have never worked after that.

If that is true, you're going to see a lot of action between now and then. I keep thinking about the judge in the Flynn trial refusing to sentence him and asking the prosecutors if they had thought of charging him with TREASON. And now, we find that Trump didn't even plan on firing Flynn nor asking him for resignation. He did it without their prodding. The judge knows a lot more than we do and it's interesting that he thought Flynn's crimes were TREASON.

The imminent completion of the report seems to be at odds with indications that Mueller keeps uncovering potential criminality --and investigating it -- on at least a weekly basis. And, aren't there criminal prosecutions yet to occur?

Maybe Mueller is turning over the individual cases to the U.S. Attorneys Offices and the Criminal Division of DOJ to handle.

My goodness! Miss Lindsey is using naughty words yet again. She lets the expletives fly. Another hissy-fit. This time her fury is directed at the Acting Defense Secretary.

Either way, nothing can be turned around right now. That's good enough for me.

What if Trump decided to just nuke us all to smithereens rather than face the music? Would there be someone to stop him if he just decided to literally go nuclear?

I'm willing to bet a Secret Service agent would shoot him.

[quote]Lindsay Graham will get to the bottom of it.

Snort. As fucking if.

Unless you're talking about him getting to the bottom of a bunch of bottoms.

They're ALL bottoms

I wonder if Barr is pressuring Mueller to finish up. There is more than enough evidence of collusion and obstruction of justice already in public domain. McCabe has been hinting that there was more evident that he shared with the Gang of Eight that is more classified. Remember the look on their faces after emerging from that meeting. The republicans looked like they had seen a ghost. Diane Feinstein had to speak for them because they were so visibly upset that they couldn't speak. Those types of images tell me much of what I need to know. Barr may whitewash the report but we all know what really happened.

The Completion of the Mueller Investigations are like the Second Coming of Jesus.

You know not when...

r94, agree that Mueller would likely issue more indictments (Trump Jr at the very least) before the final report is issued. However, if he found nothing conclusive, maybe I'll be disappointed. I can't imagine there aren't more indictments coming unless the grand jury was not convinced there was enough evidence to indict.

Tom Nichols:

The thing is, we know everything we needed to know about Trump's relationship with Russia, and how the Trump campaign was riddled with penetration by Russian intelligence. The only question left is what the President knew and when he knew it - but his base won't care.

In that sense, Trump accomplished what he set out to do: to make sure the GOP and 35% of the public will never accept SCO's findings, no matter what happens. But it gets worse: if the story is at all complicated and about money (and not about pee tapes), the public will yawn.

This is easily the greatest scandal in American history, but people have been primed to expect something spectacular, when in fact the compromise of a candidate and a campaign is a grubby, detailed, ugly business that isn't like a movie.

People keep asking "what will be in the Mueller Report?!" Guys, you already *know* what's in the report. The only missing piece is how much Trump directed or knew about, and how much leverage Putin has on him. (Not "if," but "how much.")

If Trump beats this, it will be in no small part due to the publication of the dossier -a raw intelligence file - whose contents shot public expectations through the roof.

The actual nightmare of the Russian penetration of the campaign and WH is *right in front of us*.

R106, I’m with you—Barr was just installed as AG literally a few days ago, and we are hearing about the investigation winding down. I think he has something to do with this.

R109, We have not connected the dots on Trump real estate and Russian money laundering.

Empty Wheel thinks CNN and NBC have misinterpreted what is coming soon -- it will be "a" report but not "the" report.

Why does Barr get to have his son-in-law installed in the White House? Did anyone think to ask that question during his confirmation hearing? I’m so sick of the blatant, in-your-face impropriety of almost everyone who works for this administration. It’s really disgusting and legion.

How did Barr get in anyway? There must have been some Dems who confirmed him. I don’t remember the confirmation being as publicized as much as it should have.

CNBC: President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen was granted a two-month extension of his prison surrender date Wednesday after his attorney cited his need to continue recovering from recent shoulder surgery, and to prepare for upcoming testimony before three Congressional committees. Cohen will now enter prison on May 6 rather than the previously scheduled March 6.

I suppose that's good news - at least he can't get out of testifying to Congress because of jail.

Maybe Mueller just releases some cliff notes what exactly he has investigated so far? I can't see him being finished. Especially after all the evidence that was found in the raid of Roger Stone's properties.

I wonder if the timing has something to do with Rosenstein leaving? Mueller giving us / the House and Senate some kind of amuse-bouche?

I don't believe it. I think someone deliberately leaked that Mueller would be wrapping up soon in response to all the sensational stuff Mc Cabe is talking about. The timing of this leak is very suspicious. It may even be that Trump called Barr and exploded at him to wrap this stuff up. Doesn't mean it'll happen. And if it does I will be very disappointed. Because it will be obvious Barr forced Mueller to shut it down. Mueller has at least two months worth of work left to do. I can see him wrapping by May but not before. Keep your eyes on the SDNY because Barr is probably going to reach for them next. He is the only one who can shut down investigations. But as McCabe said recently, the FBI will keep the investigations going. Mueller has done a tremendous amount of work. Too much really to be denied. Trump wants this wrapped so it doesn't affect 2020. But with any luck his 2020 will be very different than his 2016. I can't wait to see the end of his Presidency.

It is interesting that the Grand Jury apparently hasn't met since 1/24. If the grand jury doesn't have a quorum (which happens sometimes because jurors are sick or on vacation, etc.) the entire panel goes home. But for that to happen three weeks in a row is strange. Could it be they have all the sealed indictments, but are waiting for the right time to do it? As many have speculated, if Trump Jr is indicted, there's no telling what his daddy will do and it might make more sense to do multiple indictments on the same day.

The gang of 8 thing is gaining traction. What is the significance of them knowing and what does Nunes have to do with it?

Also, the NYTimes has been bothering me the last 12 months or so. Can’t put my finger on it. They have a fiddling while Rome burns tone to them. It could be my imagination.

Mueller and his forces have only just begun to dig into the mountain of stuff they took from Stone. It's simply not believable that its all wrapping up this week.

Yeah I don’t believe that other thread. It’s not coming to a close anytime soon. This thing will go on for years, one way or the other.

Lord PLEASE let us get a new president. I don’t ask for much.

How many fake “Mueller is wrapping up” stories have we had to endure at this point? They are planted by Trump and his army of co-conspirators. Mueller isn’t talking.

R121 have you been away? Antarctica maybe? The Gang of 8 is the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan at the time, The Senate Majority Leader, McConnell, the Senate Minority Leader who was Schumer for the Dems, and Pelosi who was Minority leader in the House at the time. That's four people. The other four consist of the Senate Chair of Intelligence Committee, Senator Burr, the Republican, Senator Warner his Democratic Second in command on Intel, and in the House Devin Nunes who was chair of the House Intelligence committee and the Second, Ranking member of House Intel, Adam Schiff.

McCabe said that he and Rosenstein were very concerned to see Nunes in the room for their briefing, because Nunes had allegedly recused himself pending an ethics investigation. But the rules/law said he could decide to be there if he wanted, and there was nothing they could do about it. So they left it alone, but they were concerned because they all knew Nunes was running to the WH telling them everything and coordinating with the WH.

The House Intel hearings were totally compromised. Unfortunately Devin Nunes is still on the House Intel committee as ranking member under Schiff. I suspect he is on a short leash, and is only there because House Minority Leader McCarthy wants him there. Nancy can force McCarthy to remove him but I think she is waiting for cause. Hope this helps. And do remember that McCarthy stalled in appointing the minority members to the House Intel committee. He either did it to be difficult, or because he isn't sure of what he is doing. I think it may have been a combination. McCarthy isn't very strong and Pelosi can handle him.

Thank you.

What’s to say that Barr doesn’t throw the report in the garbage can? Congress confirmed him even thought they understood that ultimately, it’s up to him.

It will all come down to Barr. That is not the most comforting prospect.

I'm not American so someone more knowledgeable please reply to my question.

If Barr decides NOT to release anything, can't Pelosi call Mueller to speak to a House Committee under oath in a public forum?

Do they actually think that after all this time and attention and the endless, breathless reporting on the Mueller investigation, that they could get away with just dropping the report in the trash and saying “Nothing to see here, folks!”

There would be mass rioting and complete chaos.

In other news -

Jerome Corsi has updated his lawsuit against Robert Mueller, Jeff Bezos and many others to clarify that he's seeking only $1.3 billion in punitive damages, not the $1.3 trillion billion listed in his complaint.

That is all.

The human anal fissure known as Jerome Corsi. My god, what an utterly repulsive human being.

[quote] R129: If Barr decides NOT to release anything, can't Pelosi call Mueller to speak to a House Committee under oath in a public forum?

Barr might, at worst, release a summary of his own making. He won’t refuse to release anything at all. Then, there will be a long drawn out process to get the original report to Congress, and to the people. The name of the game has been and will be to delay, obstruct, obfuscate. So, expect more of that. Eventually, it will come out, but much depends on getting the facts out before the next Presidential election in 2020.

My dream would be for Mueller to indict enough Republican Senators, and soon, so as to throw the Senate into Democratic hands. Lindsay, McConnall, a few others - bliss!

R129, I believe Pelosi can subpoena Mueller and make him testify. Some of it would be public some private. If there are ongoing national security concerns about exposing some of our active intelligence relationships, or our methods, then those would be redacted. But the rest of the report has to become public. If they don't release it, the media will get at it and then a lot of stuff regarding national security may leak as well. So to control the flow of information they ought to release the report. I hope they're smart enough to realize that.

I guarantee you, Trump's days are numbered. He will (1) Get indicted, they'll impeach him, convict him, and send him off to prison. (2) Be defeated in the 2020 election (3) Get re-elected, lose the Senate and the House, and get impeached. The longest he will remain in office is 2021. So take heart. We are going to get through this. All the king's horses and all the king's men won't be able to put Trumpty Dumpty together again. I just cannot see the Republican held Senate voting to convict him unless the evidence presented by Mueller is so compelling it leaves no doubt as to his guilt.

The Republicans don't want a prolonged public trial or public hearings that expose him and them. They want to end this. They cannot possibly believe that by crushing Mueller and his findings it will end. It won't. If the Republicans believe that, they are delusional. If they don't let the report become public, or if they edit it, or alter it in any way, after the steady stream of indictments and guilty pleas we have seen, the media and the public will keep this alive, we will remember it on election day, and the very thing they want to avoid will happen. It's going to have a negative impact on 2020. They think they can dodge this bullet, but they can't. Either way they are toast. They have been criminally negligent in their oversight and they have, in some cases been just as dirty as Trump.

If I were McConnell, and I wrote this over a year ago, I would have a tiger team studying the best time, for him, I mean, to have Trump removed, if ever. I would assume that Trump is guilty and is that it all is going to come out, and then figure it out. For example, is it best to do it now, so that Pence gets almost 2 years as President before 2020, or is it better to do in a year, or whenever?

The Dems ought to be studying this too, but the Republicans have more control on the timing. Trump stays until the Republicans stop resisting. As soon as they stop fighting his removal, he is finished.

Tiny's guest, Austrian chancellor Sebastian Kurz, is having private dinner with Ivanka and Jared.

Sebastian's government is on VERY good terms with Putin.

Let THAT sink in.

The Republicans (such as McConnell) are resisting because they have been compromised and have active kompromot hanging over their heads. They don’t care about the future of the country, but their own self-preservation.

Who is “Tiny”, R137? No idea what you’re talking about.

[quote] McCabe has been hinting that there was more evident that he shared with the Gang of Eight that is more classified. Remember the look on their faces after emerging from that meeting. The republicans looked like they had seen a ghost. Diane Feinstein had to speak for them because they were so visibly upset that they couldn't speak.

I remember all of that, and them coming out of that meeting and Grassley saying nothing and Feinstein looking stricken. That was the briefing McCabe has been talking about re: counterintelligence investigation into Trump?

I remember certain dataloungers saying Feinstein looked stricken simply because she’s old, and not because there was anything shocking revealed in the meeting.

The media keeps talking about Trump's base. But they over state it. The majority of Americans even now trust Mueller more than Trump by 58%. If the report were to come out, and a few more high level indictments, that % would jump to well over 60% of all Americans. Trump barely has 38% of eligible voters. He will have fewer once the report comes out if it's damaging to him, and how could it not be?

I think Mueller is tough, as McCabe says. I think Mueller has sealed indictments on Trump and members of his family. I think from time to time those indictments have been amended or revised, but are there in the courthouse. If Barr attempts to shut him down, I hope Mueller pulls the trigger, and unseals the indictments already on file with the court as his final act, and the House of Trump comes tumbling down.

This last revelation about Flynn and Jared implicated in attempting to cash in on selling nuclear technology to the Saudis even after being informed it's against the law will help Mueller decide how to play his final hand. I hope everything comes out and the burden is placed on us and on the Senate. "This is who your President is. Now deal with it." If we fail to act, on information the entire world has access to, it will damage us for generations to come.

One last thing. The media needs to stop casting this as a Republican vs. Democrat problem. It's not partisan politics as usual. This isn't a contest. This is a National Security crisis.

R139, don't play the fool.

Miss Lindz said "fucking" among other curse words today at a hearing. Has she done "fucking" before?

Lawdy, she was madder than a wet hen.

She has ugly teef.

Miss Lindsey, that ain't fittin! It just ain't fittin!

Read Seth Abramson's thread. It confirms my suspicion that this qualified leak of the speculation about when the Mueller investigation is shutting down with his final report, is bulshit. I still contend they put this out here yesterday to combat the attention McCabe is getting. Trump is in a frenzy of anger .

I’ll read Seth’s read (I love him), but I’ve heard the rumor CNN published today likely came from their new hire, that cunt Sarah Isgur Flores.

McCabe is on “shrill” (eye-roll) Nicolle Wallace’s show, and he’s wonderful. A fantastic interview as always from Nicolle.

And I’m falling in love with McCabe more every day. I don’t understand how he voted Republican for so long, though.

[quote]McCabe has been hinting that there was more evident that he shared with the Gang of Eight that is more classified.

McCabe has also said when he informed the Gang of Eight about the counterintelligence investigation he had opened into Trump, "No one objected. Not on legal grounds, not on constitutional grounds and not based on the facts."

Which means Mitch McConnell was in on what Trump likes to call the "witch hunt."

That was, “I’ll read Seth’s THread”

R144, Lindsey Graham looks almost exactly like a pig in that picture. His looks like a hog caught grunting and oinking.

I knew it. CNN is just jerking around.

I haven’t watched a single thing on CNN in the past 2 years. I can’t believe anyone can stand them and their six-person panel shout-fests. Garbage.

MSNBC all the way. And now with Sarah Isgur Flores on board, even less reason to trust them.

McCabe shared something new today on MSNBC. Two things. There was already a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign, and they just added the President to it as an additional subject. Both as the subject (suspicions he was acting as an agent of Russia) of the counterintelligence probe, and as an obstructor of justice. This would make it extremely difficult for anyone to close the case, says Frank Figliuzzi.

Second, Trump was trying to get Comey to fire McCabe since he became president. In his initial 4-page, rambling draft letter justifying firing Comey, he includes “he wouldn’t fire McCabe” as one of his reasons for wanting to fire Comey. This was well before the IG opened their probe into McCabe. So Trump wanted McCabe gone all along because Trump was being investigated.

Here's a thought...McCabe knows the truth. He has seen all the raw evidence, the phone calls, the intelligence from other countries, the emails, etc. Granted, the FBI only investigates. It doesn't indict. That's for the DOJ. However, would he be putting himself out there making the kind of accusations that he is making if he had any doubt as to what the actual truth was. His credibility would be shot if Mueller comes back and says, "Nothing to see here." Same with Comey and John Brennen. There are enough people in positions to know the truth who aren't back peddling but rather doubling down right now. Gives me comfort when I think of things that way.

In one of the interviews, McCabe says that Sessions told Christopher Wray (current FBI head appointed by Trump) to fire McCabe before his pension kicked in but Wray didn't do it and McCabe took leave instead. I know in the corporate world it is next to impossible to fire someone when they are on leave but Trump managed to do it just hours before his pension would have kicked in. Trump is really vindictive that way. I would think McCabe could sue the government for illegal termination. In business, there would certainly be a lawsuit if a corporation fired an employee hours before their pension kicked in.

Lindsey is doing just that as he's gettingvplowed by well endowed rough trade, r151.

I never fully understood the logic behind the accusations that Trump was making against McCabe's wife. She took donations from a PAC run by former Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe. Somehow this was tied to Hillary Clinton. Trump kept saying that she took money from Hillary Clinton. I know McAuliffe and Clinton are friends but isn't that stretching it a bit.

McCabe's wife received the money to run, she ran, she lost and then a few MONTHS later McCabe was assigned to the Hillary case. There was no connection.

I don't think Mueller is close to finishing the investigation. The heavy indictments are yet to come.

The CNN reporting is just a diversion tactic to take the narrative away from McCabe.....notice everyone is now chasing the shiny new object.

The CNN reporting is just a diversion tactic to take the narrative away from McCabe.....notice everyone is now chasing the shiny new object.

McCabe is indeed suing the government for that exact reason r156.

And squealing, r151.

Like a pig stuck in a fence, or a border wall that looks like a fence.

CNN doesn't think there are any further indictments! So Jared and Don Jr walk? What the hell happened?

How is that even possible? Corsi hasn’t been indicted yet and he has admitted to lying to the F.B.I.

R150 R153 R154

R166, R167, this is a line being pushed today. No one knows what's going on.

The only question is why anyone watches or believes CNN at this point, r166.

Sadly, tRump and the lt are getting away with it al

McCabe on Nicolle Wallaces show was FANTASTIC! Do try to watch it listen. By the way he's training for the iron man, mm mmm mm. McCabe really worked it right after Comey was fired so no one could shut this investigative train down. He's going to be remembered for the plan he laid out very strategically for the good of our country.

If Donald Junior slides, something very stinky is going on. He lied to Congress. He was eager (I Love It!) to meet with the Russians who promised 'dirt' on HRC), then he gave a false story.

CNN is pushing this 'winding down', 'the end is very near' story. MSNBC is way more guarded in allowing that narrative.

Trump bashes CNN as "fake news" more than any TV news outlet. Is Zucker trying to please Trump somehow? The hiring of Sarah Isgur Flores is strange.

Zucker, as reprehensible as this may seem, may realize that Donald isn't going anywhere and he's better off trying to join them.

Honestly, these Trump guys have done some dirty deeds and broken the law. CNN producers have always been naive fools with little shinning faces.

Why would you want to join a racist criminal and a traitor? I certainly don't understand that attitude.

McCabe is my hero. Thank God he spoke up with tube truth.

The irony could be that the Mueller report is the shiny object everyone is looking to chase down....while Trump gets toasted and roasted by the SDNY.

The only thing that Trump cares about is money. Well, being charged with money laundering, racketeering /RICO and losing every last dime would be a fate worse than just seeing his name in the Mueller report.

Who was Trump's accountant again?? Isn't he the one who agreed to a deal? And isn't that the way they got Al Capone?

Ugh, now WaPo is reporting it...

I trust the Post, but on the other hand, it's all just follow-the-leader at this point.

[quote]If Barr decides NOT to release anything, can't Pelosi call Mueller to speak to a House Committee under oath in a public forum?

There are several ways they could make the info public. Apparently significant parts of the Mueller report are already out there in public court filings, and handed over to Congress. They could release an unredacted version, or they could just leak the damn thing.

The concept that *that* report could get buried is laughable. Remember, we're dealing with the Keystone Kops in the WH.

There is a want-to-see factor that can't be ignored. And, again, only the people who are ride or die for Trump (a minority) will not find something effective there.

Washington Post first paragraph -

Justice Department officials are preparing for the end of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s nearly two-year investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and believe a confidential report could be issued in coming days, according to people familiar with the discussions.

So no further indictments?

Not buying that it's done, I think this is a distraction by rethugs to thwart the McCabe media tour.

Think about this. Yesterday every news outlet was talking about the NYT explosive article about Trump ordering Whitaker to get his appointed U.S. attorney from the SDNY, who recused himself, to unrecuse himself and take over the investigations in the SDNY. Whitaker refused. Then he was constantly interfering trying to shut down Mueller. The other news yesterday involves Flynn and JAred trying to sell nuclear reactor technology to the Saudis illegally.THEN the other news yesterday was Andrew McCabe all over the TV charmingly talking about Trump as a threat to our national security and possibly a Russian Asset. That was yesterday. Today, it's all about Mueller getting ready to wrap up. and the other line I've seen repeatedly is what a great guy AG Barr is. Integrity for days. Outstanding citizen. And Trump is going to let Barr decide about the Mueller report. And they are "leaking" that we may just get a "summary" of the report. Now you tell me. Knowing what we still know is out there, does anyone here really believe that Mueller is wrapping up in a week or two? Has BArr shut down any indictments of the family? What about Bannon and PArscale? Flynn isn't finished yet. New information from Manafort and Stone is being developed. Donald, Jr. Lied to Congress. I'm praying that there are sealed indictments with Trump's name on them. Preibus lied, too.

P.S. I saw McCabe with Nicole and it was wonderful. If you haven't seen it find it on Twitter and watch it. He wants to get out and do some speaking. He's going to discover he has quite a following among the Gays of DL. My dream is to have Andrew McCabe get hired on as a special consultant and legal analyst on MSNBC, so he can discuss the impeachment proceedings as they unfold.

Yes, the McCabe interview with Nicolle was great, as was the last 20 minutes with Frank Figliuzzi, Matt Miller, Joyce Vance and Chuck Rosenberg. Here’s the whole show...

Like I said in the last thread, we can't count on Mueller being our savior, in the end we may just have to get rid of Trump the old fashioned but legal way, by preventing him from getting a second term in 2020.

STFU, R189. We might not all still be alive in 22 months.

[quote]Could Russia have kompromat on John Bolton?

[quote]A former spy addresses ancient, unconfirmed claims that the National Security Adviser visited a sex club in the 1980s

William Weld will primary Trump for 2020.

Caitlyn may form an exploratory committee.

R93, if it comes true, will it be my forever longed-for 15 minutes of crispy, crunchy, mouth-watering but organic and gluten-free fame? It’s delish! Will I be famous HERE, right in my cozy, snuggly cocoon, aka the DL? Will all of you look up to me? Will you come to me when you need sage advice on your dysfunctional family or sound stock market predictions? When you’re in lust with the pool guy at your apartment complex, will you ask me for relationship advice? He’s just not that into you! Will you count on me to tell you when you’re partying too much? You are! You are out of control! Do you trust me when I tell you those earrings do *not* pair well with that particular caftan? Will you subconsciously copy me because you realize, way deep deep down, you want to BE me? Well, there’s only one of me darling. Will you talk about how HOT I must be in real-life, and create myths about how gracefully, how nimbly I dodged my attackers and naysayers on the Treason threads? Oh, of course, some of you will be jealous, that is to be expected. I know that. I can’t escape their venomous envy. No, I do *not* have to apologize for my friendship with KYLIE!!!! Or CAITLYN!!! Their jealousy comes with my fame, no? I’ll tolerate their nasty quips as long as I can, but then maybe, I won’t? I don’t have to be ALWAYS so nice and people-pleasing, fuck that shit!! Why should I — I’m the mother fucking Feb Troll! I’m actually too good for half of you. You’re beneath me. You make me sneer. I sneer! Haha! There I go, forgetting where I came from.....I’m still Jenny from the Block, don’t be fooled by da rocks dat I got! I’ll do it for you r93, I’ll stay humble for you, my love. I won’t keep forgetting where I came from.....no, no, no.

Anyhoo.......I do now believe that the stories we are *now* hearing about Mueller wrapping up are pushing *their* agenda. But we don’t have to fear anything — he’s going down, my bitches, he is going d.o.w.n. When *exactly* is he going down? Who the fuck knows? When I originally stated the story on Mueller releasing this month, I didn’t have any agenda, I was simply repeating what multiple and credible sources were reporting, nothing more, nothing less. It felt real, so that’s what I shared. More than likely I was snowed — it’s hard to know these days what stories are legit, too many players with too many agendas.

Is it possible that Mueller could have numerous sealed indictments that are set with “triggers” meaning a set of circumstances that will then require a court to unseal them? Does Mueller need to be formally seated in his current position for indictments to be unsealed and arrests made? Anyone know?

What if Mueller got a court to agree that if certain things happen, like say Trump leaving office for ANY reason, that the indictment on Trump automatically opens? Is this plausible or no? I do agree with everyone here, it truly is hard to imagine Mueller being done this month. They JUST arrested Stone afterall. The poster who maintains that May feels realistic, I agree. And May seems too soon as well.

Sidebar — I believe r109 has the most poignant post on this thread thus far. McCabe will go down as a hero. Nothing can stop the report now, they’ve put all kinds of safeguards in place already, that’s why Whittaker wouldn’t obey daddy with the SDNY. They all know their goose is cooked. Literally the *only* thing the GOP can do is keep fighting on the snowballs chance this plays out “less worse” for them, and that is what we are seeing right now. They have maybe a 5% chance that they will skate through and remain in power unscathed — they will not stop fighting. Seeing Trump cheat his way to victory has only emboldened them.

That’s all I’ve got, great thread as usual.

P.S. — I hate Bernie too......

OOps, F&F R187 by mistake, meant to W&W. Great post.

Rachel's opening was exciting. Like a novel. How the Obama administration, up to its last minutes, worked to preserve intel about the election Russia-Trump etc. Creating a trail distributed across agencies that an investigators could follow.

I bet Barr shut it down. We'll need to investigate him in the next administration.

And what exactly makes you say that, hmmmm r196?

The House needs pick up the reins on investigating I guess.

You mean the dozens of subpoenas and demands for information are nothing r198? The House is dominating right now.

R199, I didn't say they're "nothing." There are likely lines of inquiry they'll need to pursue if Mueller can no longer do so.

Fair enough, my bad r200.

it is probably useless to speculate on what Mueller will or will not do. we shall see, then we shall deal.

the important thing is to always remember: Trump is a syphalitic old whore of Putin and should be chased out of office as soon as possible.

He is a traitor, and so are all who wish him well.

the thing is, at this point, we know, we friggin know, from Comey, from McCabe, from Seth Abramson, from every bitch who is paying attention. He is a traitor, a Russian Agent, a whore for Putin. What the fuck are we waiting for at this point?

The wheels of justice turn slowly r204, but they do turn.

I am a bit disappointed that the news of Mueller being finished with his investigation may come from the Trump team. I was hoping Trump would be all paranoid that his own kids and Jared didn't get charged with anything (yet) because they turned on him and told Mueller everything.

There is zero way this report is coming soon or final. Maybe he will lay out the big shit, to remove the threat, then it will be years and years of investigations. If this is as deep as we already see it is, there is no way any of this will wrap up soon.

It is patently absurd to think this would be “wrapped up” next week. I simply don’t believe it. There are too many other shoes that need to drop.

It's all "Look over THERE!" distraction to take attention away from the real, breaking news about Trump's, and his associates', crimes. The media is not your friend and it doesn't has your best interest in mind. They want your attention and they get that with new breaking news about anything even deliberate distractions and misinformation.

Oh please. Trump's team of morons have announced/leaked this every other month for the last year and a half. I swear, these pieces of shit and the head turd himself think that if they say it it will pressure Mueller to do what he says because that's how the head turd's life used to work. That form of Turd's life is over!

Shame on CNN for doing Trump's bidding to make this news (about Mueller's investigation ending) seem legit.

No doubt in my mind Trump pressured Barr, and preemptively leaked that the investigation was wrapping up. Barr probably told Mueller he couldn't stall too much longer and he hoped Mueller was coming to a point where he could prepare a report. Mueller can drag this out another 3-4 weeks. We might have to wait until the end of March. But in the mean time more indictments can be filed, and others unsealed.

We all know Donald Trump, Jr. ought to be indicted. If he is not, if he walks, then we know it was because Barr shut this whole thing down. But it also means that Mc Cabe's plan to safeguard the investigation,, along with Mueller's expert operations, will allow people to be investigated and charged with crimes in other venues.

I have a feeling Mueller's report will be a scathing judgement of Trump. Mueller could conceivably be so critical of Trump, even to calling him an unindicted co conspirator, that the Congress will be forced to address his failings. If the Democrats take the Senate, and we really must, then Trump will get impeached and be out of there before the end of 2021. IF he is re elected.

I really can't believe what CNN has become. What happened? Were they bought by someone at some point?

They are just telling Pres Bone Spurs it is ending by next week. Just telling the child what it wants to hear.

Why would anyone, including Trump, think that Mueller would let himself get pushed into a corner with such an announcement of him being finished? Mueller is ready when Muller issues an official press release that he's ready.

Mueller will likely just drop this shit on that bitch like a hot mic and walk away. He isn't announcing anything. He doesn't roll like that.

I don't think Mueller is done either, R215, but the reality is that Barr has the power to order him to end the investigation and he has to end it. I hope Barr has some honor but his past performance covering up for the previous war criminal Repugs doesn't give me a lot of hope.

Couldn’t a stuffed animal win against him in 2020? That’s why I’m not to picky about the dem nominee. Literally anybody could beat him. Everyone has had enough of the crazy talk.

How was he ever confirmed?

Don’t Nixon’s AG end up defending the country over party?

At times like this, we need a miracle.

*didn’t

If Mueller briefed Barr on the seriousness of the case and Barr ordered him to shut down, I have absolutely no doubt that Mueller would charge Barr with obstruction....He wouldnt be the first AG charged with a crime.

I could see Barr instructing Mueller to outsource some parts of the investigation to other entities and sabotage it that way with Mueller not being able to control the flow of data and information sharing.

the good news is that Congress will be briefed regardless and someone will fucking leak it if Barr doesn't release it or blocks us from seeing the most damning parts

[quote]Don’t Nixon’s AG end up defending the country over party?

Uh, No. he served 19 months in jail for his watergate crimes

[quote] we may just have to get rid of Trump the old fashioned but legal way, by preventing him from getting a second term in 2020.

The doctors should up his Crestor prescription until he keels over from damage to his liver, kidneys and pancreas.

We need a Fatima miracle.

[quote]Uh, No. he served 19 months in jail for his watergate crimes

John MItchell went to prison. Elliot Richardson resigned, as did William Ruckelshaus after him.

Why is the evil, crooked, grifter, Flynn not in prison, where he belongs? I just don't get it. Flynn and Manafort should both spend the rest of their lives in prison.

40 people went to jail because of Watergate. This scandal is much, much worse.

Trump probably told Bar to end it...so Bar tells Trump what he wants to hear. Guys! Trump is a traitor to our country! Are they really going to just let that pass? If that happens I will protest, even if I have to hitchike to D. C.

Do we honestly think that Barr in good conscience could have asked him to stop? I know most Republicans have no conscience - that’s why we’re where we are

There are people whose opinions I respect on Twitter who think that Barr will do the right thing for the United States and rule of law.

Likewise John Roberts. It only takes 2-3 Republicans with a shred of conscience to tip the whole thing over.

I am bothered by the timing, seven days after William Barr takes office the Mueller investigation is wrapping up? When Barr came into office stating that Trump shouldn't have been investigated prior to his appointment.

I sure hope if Barr forced Mueller to wrap this up, that Mueller will tell us, but so far Mueller has told us virtually nothing.

Rachel's been saying that some of the info that Mueller's passed on to SDNY (Federal court in NYC) *might* result in the SDNY indicting Trumpy. Like, really truly indicting the motherfucker.

If it turns out Mueller gave all these people who committed crimes immunity and only ends up getting Stone and Manafort jail time I am going to be pissed. Flynn sold out our country and is a traitor, same with Rick Gates and what about Kushner and Trump Jr.

Trump will pardon Stone and Manafort after he loses in 2020.

Barr is the GOP fixer/cleaner so of course his first priority is to foil Mueller. That's what he's hired to do... save Trump's fat ass from the fire. But Trump has implicated himself in so many dirty dealings, Barr can't block every avenue of investigation.

I'd rather think that Barr is leading Trump to the slaughter, but keeps the GOP clean by blocking any mention of their involvement in any legal way.

Barr surely must realize he shouldn't compromise his future legal career (muchless his country, and his own freedom from serving jail time) to bail out Kompromatted Cheetolini. If he is a Republican who cares about his party's survival, he should, likewise, avoid bailing those party members who are up to their eyeballs in tRump and Daddy Vladdy's shit.

In Mueller I trust, until he gives me reason to do otherwise, which at this point he has not.

Cohen just got another reprieve for "shoulder surgery." Flynn has yet to be imprisoned. Junior Mint is known to have lied to Congress, under oath. Manafort hasn't been sentenced yet. Kushner's treason with SA/MBS was recently uncovered. Etc.

Treason, conspiracy, money laundering, perjury, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, flouting of the Emoluments Clause, income tax evasion (wait for it), accessory before and after the fact of murder, ....

Team Mueller will not be heading to the showers next week.

The lectionary reading this morning was psalm 37:1-11, 39-40.

Godspeed Mr. Mueller

Trump will likely try to pardon himself after he loses in 2020 but there are so many charges at state level - he can’t possibly pardon all of these people. The states will go after them with an even stronger resolve if they’re pardoned at a federal level. The Dems had better go at this with a Truth & Reconciliation Committee because nobody wants to see all of this swept under the carpet. It’s important that the full extent and scope of the criminality both within the Trump administration and the GOP is exposed. Otherwise, what’s the point of proceeding with government?

I can't help but wonder what Israel thinks of Jared Kushner giving the fucking SAUDIS intelligence regarding nukes...

Bibi and the Likudniks don't care if Jared is in bed with the Saudis--as long as Iran remains the common enemy (US, SA, Israel).

R244 I don’t know about that. I think Saudi Arabia, if given the opportunity, would love to just eliminate Israel from the map, as would other Middle East countries. I can’t imagine Israel being ok with giving them nukes. But I’d love to hear your perspective—admittedly I’m not an expert in Middle East policy, so I freely admit I may not be informed on this.

[quote]Bibi and the Likudniks don't care if Jared is in bed with the Saudis

Pics please.

Bibi probably molested Jared.

Jared probably presented pre-lubed hole and backed onto Bibi.

[quote] Barr surely must realize he shouldn't compromise his future legal career (muchless his country, and his own freedom from serving jail time) to bail out Kompromatted Cheetolini.

To be honest I don't believe any Republican gives a shit about his or her legacy. It's all about how much money and power they can accumulate now which can keep them warm and cozy after they retire. I highly doubt any of the GOPers (Nunes, McConnell, Ryan) will face actual jail time or even charges for aiding and abetting Trump and his associates.

The Saudis' desire for nukes presumably has more to do with their enmity towards Iran, which was becoming a nuclear power until the treaty stopped it (and the Iranians probably were using their nuclear progress as leverage to get a treaty and more economic power). So Jared and the Trumpies' help in making Saudi Arabia nuclear, combined with the rejection of the treaty, would just escalate the arms race between Saudi Arabia and Iran—thus giving the Republicans more reasons to attack Iran (and strengthen Saudi Arabia).

Their party is dragging America and the world into a maelstrom of a shitstorm.

r238, What future legal career? This is it for Barr, he's in his 60's and I'm sure this AG job is probably the end of the road for him. He has no reason to worry about any future career in law. As for legacy, if Trump made it lucrative enough for him to come on as his AG and do this, I don't think he's too worried about any legacy.

R241 And Psalm 91 as well for Robert Swan Mueller III, Purple Heart Marine. The Washingtonian wrote aboyr him as the ultimate G Man: URL too long to post, but I know he will uphold this vow:

"I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”

Reminder: every page of Ken Starr’s report was released to the public.

[quote]maelstrom of a shitstorm

Maelstrom Shitstorm is rumored to be the winner of Drag Race Season 11.

Hang in there! They're not finished with Flynn. He will be charged with more crimes and if he also lied to the Mueller investigation, he will get a sentence reflecting that. The Mueller team didn't want to alert other people they hope to charge, by going after Flynn for bigger offenses. Some of the things Flynn will get charged with implicates other bigger fish. I have confidence in Mueller. It'll happen. And I believe in my heart that Mueller has Trump on audio. He knows Trump is a Russian asset. I agree with the person up thread who said Barr may let Mueller get Trump, as long as Trump leaves members of Congress alone. He is there to protect the GOP not Trump.

I just can’t believe that after all this, it’s now up to a fat man who looks like Fred Flintstone to decide what the public gets to know about the biggest political scandal in our nation’s history. Something is really wrong with that.

Remember....Flynn, Gates, etc who were given deals....if they didnt offer info that could convict someone UPFRONT, then they wouldnt have received a deal. So Mueller has the goods. This is nothing but a tactic to take attention away from all the negative news over the past few days along with McCabes book.

[quote]Reminder: every page of Ken Starr’s report was released to the public.

Yes, but that was about a truly earthshaking, nation-destroying issue: a man lying about getting a blow job. The Mueller Report is only about the President Of The United States selling out our country for the sake of securing Russian financing for his family business. Big whoop.

The main take away from all this chatter is,e must win in 2020. We MUST hold the House, take the Senate, and get Trump out of the White House.

We also need to vote down ballot and elect more Democratic legislatures and governors. This is critical.

Please read this article It is important for us to be aware of what's happening i plain sight.

R259, you're absolutely right. I'm with whomever the Dems nominate for president. We're unlikely to survive as a democracy if Cheeto has another 4 years of this horror.

Why is Barr’s son-in-Law working in the White House. Doesn’t it seem like this whole nightmare has way to many family entanglements? Every position seems to have a “chain migration” of various family members who are either given positions of authority within the administration or are somehow receiving perks and kickbacks in the private sector. It’s all just so VENAL.

VENAL seems to be word of the year, again.

I agree R261. That's the one thin, Barr's son-in-law, that caused me to worry greatly about Barr's mission and his goal. But then I thought about it. I do believe that Barr may not block Mueller so much as make sure someone competent is in the WH Special Counsel's office to process pardons. Because that was Barr's specialty for the Bushes during Iran Contra, I believe.

Maybe we're looking at this wrong. Maybe it's about Pardons. Barr is not a fool, he won't endanger his own Law license or break the law with Mueller looking over his shoulder, but he has been down this road with pardons before.

Since McGahn left the WH legal operation has suffered. They can't find their asses with both hands. Barr's son might be going over there to help process all the pardons after Mueller drops his final batch of indictments.

I have to laugh at Trump trotting out his 2nd Korean Summit to coincide with Michael Cohen's testimony to Congress. He thinks the optics of him & Kim will push Cohen off the front pages, but it won't. We know Trump stages photo ops. Fuck him.

With the right Dem president (i.e., not someone who's actually interested in "unifying" the country, a "reset" with Russia, "working with" the GOP in Congress), the investigation will resume — and expand — in 2021.

I agree, R264. The one thing the next DEMOCRATIC President, elected in 2020, has to do right out of the gate, is send a huge signal to the international community that we will never again tolerate such interference, and we are serious about cyber attacks, etc. Fuck a "reset" with Putin. We should indict that fucker in absentia, and tell the Russians to get rid of him.

My biggest fear is that Dems will let it go so that the country can heal. I’m sorry, but until the wounds are exposed to the air, nothing can heal. EVERYTHING needs to be revealed.

What R263 said.

The Starr report was released, and Starr believes that a sitting president CAN BE INDICTED. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Repugs.

Where's Rudy been lately? Would love to see him on RuPaul's Drag Race.

None of this "reset" stuff. There's got to be retribution.

R266, yes I agree. I hate that "we have to let the country come together and heal" BS. It doesn't work and it just leaves us vulnerable. We need to pour billions into retribution against Russia. Not military necessarily - other means.

Pinhead Zippy Roger Stone makes me sick. The judge is going to be too merciful towards him for that crosshairs stunt.

Another summit with Kim? North Korea will come away from it owning Hawaii, Guam, and American Samoa. A little flattery to DJT goes a long way. Spurs can't give Kim Alaska though; that's already been promised to Putty.

Speaking of Stoney, isn’t he supposed to appear before a judge today for his Instagram post?

Yes, I believe it is today.

Miz Lindz is resting this morning. She had a bad case of the vapors yesterday afternoon following hissy-fits on two fronts.

Round ‘em up, already.

Let's hope Ratfucker Stone heads to the slammer at 230PM EST. Judge Amy, though, has to be "nice" so as to avoid Deplorable threats. And mean Trump tweets.

Trump White House Is Forcing Interns to Sign NDAs and Threatening Them With Financial Ruin.

To veterans of other administrations, the act of compelling interns to sign these types of NDAs would seem odd, if not downright unenforceable or legally dubious. To this White House, it’s standard operating procedure.

I had this fight with a Trump supporting friend from high school again recently and when I asked her if she would vote for Trump again in 2020...she claimed that she never voted for him the first time. She claims that she was pretending to be a supporter to “see how far you would take this.” She has turned herself into a “victim of leftist intolerance” (her words). This is a person who was one of my best friends during high school.

Like, I can’t. A potential preview of what some of these Deplorables might float when the avalanche truly takes off down the mountain.

What a horrible lying friend, R280.

Man, so much going on today!

Washington Post: Analysis: It’s Mueller time (apparently). Here are four big questions.

Reuters: Putin to U.S.: I'm ready for another Cuban Missile-style crisis if you want one

r266, Obama's biggest mistake was not pursuing W Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld for war crimes. If he had allowed them to be pursued, those fuckers McConnell and Trump would not have been empowered to go after the weak Obama.

Decency gets you nowhere with Republicans.

Trump should be pursued until the day Baron Trump dies.

Does Putin feel like he has carte Blanche to threaten the U.S. now because he has Trump completely by the balls? He has put our entire country at risk. I am just baffled that this is being allowed to continue. It’s really dangerous.

[quote]Decency gets you nowhere with Republicans.

He was not being decent, Obama was being arrogant. The Clinton people, who were now part of his administration, were on his ass telling him to direct the justice department to investigate but he refused.

I agree, R285. Say Obama was never president, but we still had Trump now. If Trump were indicted after leaving office, and there were a President Obama in 2021, I wouldn't be surprised if Obama would pardon Trump "to heal the nation and come together."

I want someone who's grind him into the ground.

No way Obama would pardon trump for his treasonous behavior. This is a far cry from lying about a blow job, it's not pardonable.

But is the U.S. really planning to put more missiles in Europe right now? It feels like hollow posturing. Putin has what he wants right now. When Trump is out and assuming the next leader actually takes a stand, it would be too late for Putin to be in the cockpit. Seriously, just posturing.

R286, im thinking a manufactured arms race = $$$$$$$

Sorry, that was word vomit. Putin has what he wants now, so all he has to do is make hollow threats. Once Trump is out, it will be too late for him to act on them.

John Dean (yes, that John Dean):

I asked Cohen’s attny what he’ll say? @LannyDavis responded while my cell was off: “He will pull the curtain back and we will hear true stories of Trump’s complicity in crimes, and his immoral, bigoted, and morally vacant character in specific, detailed personal anecdotes.”

There are some people in government, both elected officials and career civil servants who believe we need to look strong before the rest of the world ( IA gree) and to do that we have to unite, "put this behind us" and move on. (I strongly disagree. I believe the rest of the world already knows Putin fucked us in the ass with a hot poker, and Trump the imbecilic clown has been standing there, center stage with his pants down hoping people don't notice his flaccid penis with Vlad's face tattooed on it. So putting on a front and acting like we're moving on, is bullsht. The whole world needs to see real strength. They need to see us crush all the fuckers who did this to us beginning at home.

I guess nothing is going to happen to Trump, even 100 threads later by the same unhinges poster. I wish something would of course.

How can the judge NOT throw Stone in jail for the picture?

Hey, Stone took it even further on his Instagram account attacking the judge. I hope she lacerates him and cuts off his nasty little pee pee so he has to sit.

I love you for posting that, r293. It might really be time to start popping that popcorn.

I really hope Cohen testifies as scheduled. Somehow I see him as such a coward that he'll shirk it again.

Roger Stone in court now: "I have acute financial stress. My consulting business has dried up. I have exhausted my savings. I have been treated for the emotional stress. This is just a stupid lapse of judgement."

Throw that stupid shit in jail. At least he will get a meal free

Nobble the Pinhead, Judge Amy! Resist his self-pity!

R300, so basically, “Help me, I’m poor!”

Insert Kristen Wiig GIF here.

"The passive voice is not helpful," Judge Berman Jackson tells Stone as he answers questions about his volunteers and his social media operation.

Stone: "I do not exclusively use my own phone, that's what I'm saying." Suggests someone else may have used his phone to find images of Judge Berman Jackson. Said none of his volunteers would own up to selecting the images Stone chose from.

Stupid lapses in judgement doesn't work for murderers or treasonists.

Stone is such a child. Can't take responsibility for anything.

Surely they could look at phone records to see who uploaded the image... this lying sack of shit needs to go to jail. He won't learn his lesson.

Who else would be using his phone?! Lock him up!

[quote] Roger Stone in court now: "I have acute financial stress. My consulting business has dried up. I have exhausted my savings. I have been treated for the emotional stress. This is just a stupid lapse of judgement."

Why does this loser even have followers, or a career, when he grovels like a bitch when he's under scrutiny?

Did he wear a zoot suit to court?

Send him to jail. Jesus his smug ass belongs in the worst rat infested prison available

Maybe wikileaks Julian Assange has access to poor Roger's phone...

STONE: "My house is like a headquarters, I have many volunteers."

JUDGE: I thought you said five?

STONE: Five is a lot.

What a dick

The judge isn't having it - he deserves no pity.

On redirect, Stone's lawyer asks Stone when he realized this was a "terrible mistake." Stone says it was after a reporter contacted him to ask why he'd posted a photo of the judge with crosshairs — Stone says he didn't see it that way

Mark Harris in North Carolina now says there should be a new election. His son's testimony did him in lol.

[quote]Stone is such a child. Can't take responsibility for anything.

You know, you can earn an honor badge in the republican't party for that!

Shameless liars!

Good people think Barr will do tube right thing but I do not. If Putin gives him something he wants, he will do what Putin wants.

I don't think Barr cares about Putin. Barr is just a straight-out partisan who puts party over country. Fervently.

I believe that judge should throw Roger in jail.

I really hope he's jailed.

Prosecutor says that Stone's testimony at today's hearing is "not credible" — he argues that any contrition by Stone now is belied by his actions, that he continued to give interviews and use similar language to the Insta post, and draw attention to those statements.

Yeah, Trump is making business deals all over the world, he and Jared are working at their real jobs, grifting.

She should jail him until his lawyer is able to prove to her that it wasn't him who broke the gag order. Stone throwing his volunteers under the bus would be the end of him.

Stone absolutely needs to go to prison. How did he not have to post any bail? So cushy.

Stone has never shown any remorse for all the smears and trickery he has thrust upon his many victims which he was never held accountable. Send his nasty ass to jail and let him "swing" with fellow inmates.

Why do they think the Smollett story is so important? The White Surpremicist story is much more interesting.

Ratfucker tries out the "I'm gonna get raped in prison" defense.

I hate how gently courts treat people like Stone. Some old white guy doesn't have to post bail, gets to make himself the victim, disparages law enforcement and the court, and now he's being politely asked questions after threatening a judge.

Is it because he's old, white, and has money? Is it because he's famous now?

Everything is such a joke to him. Everything is a performance. Nothing is his fault. He didn't do X or Y -- his volunteers did it. Endless. Only prison will ends this nonsense.

I think the fucker said he was afraid of being raped in prison...the man is like a grease stain on someone's old sweatpants. He really is a big zero.

If he's broke he can sell one of his houses.

I think his lawyers wrote the statement he made...he can not even pretend to be sorry. If the judge lets him go, she will be making a mistake.

R334 If Roger needs money, maybe he can take the governments advice and have a yard sale or do some babysitting.

R333 I wonder how that fits into Stone self-proclaimed "try-sexual" narrative?

Both Stone and Manafort are into swinging. Weird.

80% of Americans want to see Mueller's report.

Trumps base is all Nazi...there is nothing to be done with them.

Trump's base know it won't be a mostly illustrated pop-up book and it'll have big words that aren't in the Bible besides.

Harris in North Carolina got caught in his lie, and now is calling for a new election -- because he doesn't want the GOP to replace him in the re-do.

Allso, Stone can always ask for a line of credit at the grocery store like McDonald Dotard suggested Federal workers do during our nation's longest government shutdown!

Fox has a post on their website expressing concern and urging compassion for Stone who might be raped in prison because he is a "dandy." Is Senatrice Lindsey ghostwriting for Fox now?

"Hey, you old bitch, you looked like Mr. Fuckin' Peanut. Come over here NOW!"

Promising news from Israel. Maybe they'll prosecute their chief executive, too.

"Hey, Eustace Tilley! Get your dandified ass over here, right now, bitch!"

Please post what the judge does to Stone ASAP.

Stone's never faced any consequences for this stuff. I suspect he won't face any today either (i.e., no jail time).

he needs to be punished. These people think the law does not apply to them. Perfect time to show them that is not the case.

Court is in recess (just a brief break) and the judge may rule anytime now.

Judge never mentioned jail time today. So far.

He threatened a judge. He did. How is he NOT going to get prison? How lenient are the courts towards famous defendants? Ugh.

Judge Jackson: "There's nothing ambiguous about crosshairs.”

Judge Jackson not taking Stone's apology. Says it looks like it came from his lawyers: “So thank you, but the apology rings quite hollow.”

Yes R330 and he is one scary guy.

Judge Jackson notes Stone is charged for witness intimidation. Says his release "poses a danger" to the community. Decision TK.

TK, R355?

to come

Judge Jackson gags Roger Stone, limiting Stone from speaking at all about the case: "So no, Mr. Stone I'm not giving you another chance. I have serious doubts about whether you've learned any lesson at all."

Nicolle Wallace is already good today.

Stone threatened to kill someone (witness tampering charge). And now this. PRISON is necessary through the trial. It's horrible if he's allowed out.

R358, thanks. How disappointing.

Hearing adjourned. Stone is not going to jail. But he won't be talking about the case anymore. Nor will his surrogates. He can send emails to raise money and say he's pleading not guilty. But that's about it.

He can't speak about the case? That's it???? He's still going to talk endlessly about the deep state, etc. Ugh.

At some point he said he though the crosshairs were a CELTIC SYMBOL.

Breaking: The North Carolina State Board of Elections has ordered a new election in the Ninth Congressional District.

Ugh. Fuck this. I wanted him locked up.

He's so fucking stupid that he won't last a week without talking about it. Then jail for real. asshole.

R364, I hope the next administration pursues this further, and prosecutes Harris for conspiracy and election tampering.

I hope the press pursues Stone endlessly, tempting him to talk about the trial. Colbert or whoever's the top interview show should invite him on the show, to get him to talk about the trial. Prison after.

He just left the court building, passing through a phalanx of reporters and photographers, and didn't say a word. That's tough for a narcissist like him.

I love that he and Manafort are now broke! This fills my heart

I'm sure the Mercers, Kochs and Adelsons won't let him miss a meal.

Lé Sénatrice's has been rather quiet today so far, after another cursing outburst yesterday. Did she take McTurtle's advice, and has begun taking a finishing school class to show improved etiquette in communications?

I was speaking to an FBI forensics specialist today he said they could have gone through Stone's cache of digital records really fast. He said as fast as a couple of days with today's forensics software.

I'm trying to think which one of his "rules" was in play today (Stone's Rules from Get Me Roger Stone).

Netenyahu, is a thug, a murdering thug and like Trump, a grifter...I wish for his death but prison would be really great. That is something I would love to see.

r370....I wouldnt bet on that.....they both have loads of hidden money.

It is hard to believe that enough Americans hate our country so much, that they would re elected Trump. I believe Russia hacked our voting machines in 2018, to get him the Senate. I know it was done in Florida.

Of course they have money hidden away. Money they earned from making shady, criminal deals.

I think Lindsey has had a series of small strokes. He needs to get to a neurologist and get a cat scan of his brain.

Lying about your homosexuality will do that.

Where are the "law and order" Rethugs in Congress and Federalist society types when a judge is threatened by a defendant? If this was an Obama or Clinton protege in court, the Rethugs would've been foaming at the mouth.

Not a peep from legal eagles Miss Lindz & co.

I hope that when Muellers report doesnt materialize next week, Ken Dalanians career is over. Hes a hack, has always been a hack, and hes positively giddy on tv thinking hes the shit because idiots chose to run with his story. Every single story he writes gets backtracked in time....you would think he would have learned not to suck Trumps mushroom dick for a lead.

Rick Wilson, 40 minutes ago:

Roger Stone is already in violation of the "comment indirectly via surrogates."

ALREADY.

Judge Amy presumably saved herself from assassination today by Deplorables by incrementally silencing Ratfucker.

Now the NYT is saying Mueller Report "may" be ready in weeks. LOLOL! How's that for definitive.

And monkeys may fly out of my butt.

Here’s the NYT story on the Mueller report:

"The new attorney general, William P. Barr, is preparing for the special counsel to deliver a report in coming weeks on the results of the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, two officials briefed on the Justice Department’s preparations said. President Trump’s legal team and other allies of the administration have incorrectly predicted an imminent end to the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, for well over a year."

"The submission of a report by Mr. Mueller would effectively mean his office is closing down. [...] But active cases that have not yet been brought to a conclusion would likely continue. New prosecutors from outside the special counsel’s operation could pick up cases that remain in progress. And some cases that spun off from Mr. Mueller’s investigation — including those being conducted by the United States attorney’s office in Manhattan involving Michael D. Cohen and Mr. Trump’s business — would continue unaffected."

What R293 wrote is monumental!

Why isn't this being discussed here?

[Quote] I asked Cohen’s attny what he’ll say? @LannyDavis responded while my cell was off: “He will pull the curtain back and we will hear true stories of Trump’s complicity in crimes, and his immoral, bigoted, and morally vacant character in specific, detailed personal anecdotes.”

Yes to r257! This is what I keep coming back to when I begin to feel disheartened and desperate that nothing will come of all this 2 years of edging. Why would Mueller give Flynn a get out of jail free card if he didn’t deliver the goods. His crimes are very, very serious ones. He would not have given him immunity if all he handed over was Manafort or some other lesser actor. It just does not compute!!

[quote]I think Lindsey has had a series of small strokes. He needs to get to a neurologist and get a cat scan of his brain.

This is an insult to cats everywhere!

r389.....also remember that although Flynn, Gates, etc received deals, none of those deals were specific as to the Russian Conspiracy. Ive been saying all along that when the big enchilada is revealed, we will see additional charges for those individuals. The players in this are so dirty that Mueller didnt need to negotiate the main charges away to get them to cooperate...Flynns ties to Russia are deeper, and he was involved in a kidnapping plot for Turkey as well as other things that put him...and his son...in a great deal of jeopardy. Were talking death penalty shit. Flynn flipped to save his son, Gates, his family. When each pled, they laid out the crimes they commited...including the crimes they werent charged with...ex: Flynns Judge asking why he wasnt charged with Treason after reading Flynns sentencing briefs, delaying his sentencing. Mark my words...we will see this rogues gallery again...and they wont be getting a slap on the wrist, cooperation or not. They can hope for leniency, but thats about it. This isnt about the campaign...its much much bigger.

I used to have utter contempt for Germans. I never trusted them and generally just felt they had "something wrong" with them that was deep. I couldn't understand how a civilized nation allowed such barbaric slaughter and treatment of large swaths of people.

Here we are today in the USA and I'm not so sure we couldn't let it happen here. I never in my wildest nightmares would have thought this thing we have as "president" would ever get elected or have a following. Such an obvious liar, immoral sociopathic narcissist. Yet it happened.

Sorry, Germans, you are no better and certainly no worse than any one else. Except the Russians. There IS something fucked up about them.

Trump cannot be pardoned. He’s a big mouth with no impulse control. He (should) know too much to be unleashed on the world, available for sale to the highest bidder. He MUST go to the Supermax prison in Colorado, with no access to the media or, well, Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Shanahan has quickly changed his tune and has embraced being a prospective gentleman caller.

Atta-boy'

The crooked republican NC congressional candidate didn’t exactly call for a new election on his own.

It didn’t get much attention, but the fraud hearing has been nonstop bananas all the way through. Everybody was ratting out everybody else. It was a jaw-dropping free-for-all. The candidate’s own son ratted out his dad in open court.

The candidate spend the last 3 months adamantly insisting that he was completely innocent, and there were not enough votes affected to alter the race. Those were his two main talking points.

Now keep in mind that he and the other NC repugs have spent the last year campaigning against evil democrats and their cheating voter fraud ways.

And the the son comes on the stand and drops the bomb that he knew all along.

So today, after trying to white-knuckle his way tough another minute of the hearing, he called a recess and pulled the plug.

It was spectacular.

U.S. allies are refusing to do DJT's dirty work in Syria.

I keep having to remind myself that it's not all Russians -- just one enormous bastard -- whom I would like to see get nuked. Racism is bad, individual hatred is okay.

Junior Mint gloating. Is he the next Roger Stone?

If Mueller really is ready to submit a report next week, then tomorrow should be interesting....indictment Friday and all. If nothing happens tomorrow, I dont expect to see a report from Mueller any time soon.

Lindsey falls is line behind Trump on Syria.

Anyone surprised?

Lindsey is a compromised WHORE.

R400, if I'm not mistaken, I think Miz Lindsey won this one. Trump wanted to immediately withdraw our troops ans Lindsey was against it. Now he and Trump are BFFs again and all is well. Trump is leaving the troops in Syria for a while. Vlad must be pissed.

But R400, Trump apparently reversed himself. He’s now leaving some troops there.

Bernie is on Chris Hayes now. He's saying alot of nice things, but I just don't get it. How do millions of people get so crazed over this old putz? His usual shtick of pointing his finger and yelling his points. I don't get it. He's as charisma free as a fart in a windstorm. He just seems like such a humorless old professor

Read the comments in r400. Best part.

The country's an hour past "healing." Arrest Every Bitch In Sight!

Magical thinking, r404. Cults of personality are built on it.

Trump Is Not Our Only Problem. I hit "return" accidentally.

So what is in Pecker's box?

Bernie will not get far this time....a lot of his supporters have abandoned him....its the BernieBros and their ilk that are propping him up....just like Trumps MAGA crowd.

R. Painter

The most vocal BernieBros ARE the Trump MAGA crowd.

this is when shit gets serious. We have a Senate that truly does not give a shit if Trump is Russian Agent, a crazy old bitch, or anything else. We have a House that does care, but is relatively powerless about appointments and treaties and a whole lot of things. What do we do? What do WE do?

R404 Just like Trump is repulsive racist grandpa to anyone with a functioning brain... but charisma is defined these days by whether you have drunk the kool aid.

R412 is absolutely correct. YES! Don't ever forget it.

They’re going to have to replace all the stolen china and silver from the White House come 2020.

Baggage and cavity searches of everyone.

The Manhattan Madam can't give her dear friend, Roger Stone, a loan?

Think how much money the pee pee girls could be making on the stripper circuits and in the international porn industry. Poor girls, hope Putty Poop did not harm them.

you know, as I think about it, we should have run that son ofa bitch out of town on a rail within 6 months of his taking office. Certainly not longer than a year. Because any other country faced with what we know now, and faced with what the Department of Justice, the CIA the FBI, etc. knew, would have never allowed Trump to remain as President.

Never allowed him to have access to top secret information, security briefings, or anything else involving the safety and security of our country,...including anything impacting treaties or agreements or even economic policy, tariffs, trade, etc. He'd be gone. I honestly do not believe any other democracy, including Germany, France, the UK, or Canada or Australia, or Japan,or WTFever, none of them would have stood for this shit. Justice would have been swift.

IMO, We need a law that demands a POTUS step aside even temporarily, if he is under investigation. Once he is cleared he can resume his office. But to have him sitting there appointing judges, making decisions that benefit an adversary while he is under suspicion of conspiring with them. Because that is a pile of shit. We need to change that.

Lawrence O Donnell is going to do a segment on Epstein tonight. He just finished a piece on Mueller, and now he is getting ready to talk about the Declaration of Emergency lawsuits, and Epstein/ and Epstein's attorney who is now Trump's Labor Secretary.

DJT's mole in the Gang of 8.

They shouldn’t have a new election in NC. Harris should just be made to concede; end of story. And Roger Stone should be in jail.

Another Nunes operaative joins DJT's WH staff.

^ His face is too much to look at directly.

[quote] R420: you know, as I think about it, we should have run that son ofa bitch out of town on a rail within 6 months of his taking office.

I know I’m preaching to the choir, but the VP and cabinet ought to be held responsible for failure to invoke the 25th Amendment. Negligence, dereliction of duty, conspiracy. No doubt more. I’m sure they won’t be charged, but they should be - along with the electors who voted for Turnip in the first place.

r426 Absolutely!

I totally agree that if a president is being investigated, they should step aside. There are sooooo many new laws and measures that need to be drafted in response to all that shit that’s gone down in the Trump administration. All 50 states need to require release of tax filings, for starters. Pop quizzes on current events and US and world history during the debates—if you fail the pop quiz, you have to drop out of the race.

Etc etc.

I’m more concerned about his fake medical records.

1. What is he hiding? Well, I know - a lot. Height, weight, psych meds, other meds.

2. Lying about it ought to be grounds for impeachment. It’s inexcusable.

r429 Hillary should release her "medical" exam that lists her as a 36-24-36 to troll this fucker.

Early Poll of New Hampshire Voters Shows Potential Problems for Trump a Year Out from 2020 Presidential Primary Season

All the stories about the Mueller report say that the DOJ is preparing for Mueller's report as early as next week. That's kind of weasel speak because they can be preparing all they want - independently if Mueller. It may not have any basis on whether Mueller is in fact ready to finish. It seems to me that perhaps Barr was pressured by Trump and the DOJ leaked that they were preparing for the release. No where does it say that Mueller has indicated to the DOJ that he is readying his report. With the DOJ leaks you have to be careful as to what they are saying or more importantly not saying because they're all highly trained lawyers who choose each word specifically.

Also, you have to be careful with CNN's reporting because Jeff Zucker is the CNN CEO. Zucker was also the Entertainment CEO at NBC when NBC launched The Apprentice. He has a long history with Trump. He and Mark Burnett know how badly Trump behaved on the Apprentice set. They are responsible for keeping any additional "Grab Them By the Pussy" tapes well hidden and locked away.

R420. Exactly what t said in another thread. Now hearing that Obama had information on how Russia was interfering with the election and did not move in on it. Then he handed the Presidency and the White House to Dump. He knew this and let the rightful winner step down. OK, so he planted seeds to secure his conversations for later. This is why it's taken TWO YEARS+ to get here. Obama's hidden map is only now being revealed. Dump should've been gone within 3 months. What chicken shit show this is!

R420 R434

Waiting for Superman.

[quote]I totally agree that if a president is being investigated, they should step aside.

That would play havoc with our government -- Obama is the only president since Nixon not to have been subject to an FBI investigation while in office.

When they are investigating whether or not our president conspired with a foreign adversary, to interfere with our elections and defraud the American people, then he should step aside. As far as I know, no other PResident was ever under investigation by a Special Prosecutor for that reason. I am not saying they weren't investigated, or that they were not corrupt, but none of them conspired to defraud the American people by cooperating with a foreign adversary to interfere in our election. That is the one thing that justifies them stepping aside. What ever laws we have now need to be tightened up, and fixed.

Mueller Biographer: McConnell “Aided And Abetted” Russia’s Attack On The U.S.

What ought to be very clear to anyone who is paying attention is that Trump is acting against the interests of the United States. Every decision he makes .

Per CNN:

Friday may be the day that special counsel Robert Mueller tells all in the long-running court saga of Paul Manafort's prosecution.

Mueller's sentencing memorandum is due to a federal judge in DC District Court before midnight Friday. It is the last major requisite court filing in Mueller's longest running case, a sprawling prosecution of the former Trump campaign manager that led investigators to gather exhaustive information about his hidden Cypriot bank accounts, Ukrainian political efforts in Europe and the US and into Manafort's time on the 2016 presidential campaign. Prosecutors are set to outline all facts they believe the judge should consider at his sentencing, now set for March 13. That will likely include Manafort's criminal business schemes, his attempt to reach out to key contacts after his arrest and the lies he told to prosecutors and a grand jury after he agreed to cooperate with the Mueller investigation. Often, in filings like these, prosecutors will pull together a complete retelling of the defendant's crimes, convictions and cooperation. Details about Manafort's cooperation have been especially guarded by prosecutors, since his interviews are a significant part of Mueller's investigation into Russian influence in the 2016 presidential election. Prosecutors will also likely suggest a range the judge could give him in prison time. The memo Friday will cover the two charges Manafort pleaded guilty to in September, conspiracy against the US and conspiracy witness tampering, which he committed after he was arrested by trying to reach out to former colleagues. At the time of his plea, he also admitted to a litany of money laundering and foreign lobbying crimes that encompassed his work for Ukrainian politicians and other clients over several years. Co-conspirators, Manafort said, were his long-time colleagues Rick Gates, who is still cooperating with Mueller, and Konstantin Kilimnik, whom prosecutors say is connected to Russian intelligence and who is at the heart of their inquiry. The memo will also likely cover his and Kilimnik's alleged contact with potential witnesses in his case after Manafort's October 2017 arrest, and his lies about his interactions with Kilimnik in 2016 and other topics. Previously, prosecutors said Manafort should face up to 25 years in prison and pay tens of millions of dollars for tax and bank fraud. Friday's sentencing memo will speak to consequences that could pile on top of the those. Manafort's defense team has until Monday to file their own request for his sentence. He will be sentenced by federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson on March 13 in his DC case. Five days earlier, he'll learn his sentence for the eight financial fraud convictions in the separate case in Virginia. Manafort, who turns 70 in a month, has been jailed since June for the witness tampering.

I wonder if we will ever get to hear Michael Cohen's taped conversations with the Tre45onous Traitor-In-Queef?

Call me a fool, but I believe we will hear those tapes at some point, R442. If it exists we will eventually get them. There are too many journalists who have an active and continuing interest in digging out information.

Adam Schiff pens "an open letter to my Republican colleagues" in WaPo, imploring them to resist Trump's national emergency declaration"

"Many of you have acknowledged your deep misgivings about the president in quiet conversations over the past two years. You have bemoaned his lack of decency, character and integrity. You have deplored his fundamental inability to tell the truth. But for reasons that are all too easy to comprehend, you have chosen to keep your misgivings and your rising alarm private.

That must end. The time for silent disagreement is over. You must speak out."

Good on him to give it the ol' college try, but this is a bit like asking Lucy to finally hold the football in place.

[quote]I wonder if we will ever get to hear Michael Cohen's taped conversations with the Tre45onous Traitor-In-Queef?

I don't know but we may get the next best thing next week when Cohen testifies before Congress. A source close to Cohen told the Wall Street Journal that Cohen will "tell the story of what it's like to work for a madman, and why he did it for so long," adding that he's "going to say things that will give you chills."

Commentary from the Charleston Post & Courier.

New York Has Prepared Paul Manafort Charges If Trump Pardons Him, per Bloomberg.

"New York state prosecutors have put together a criminal case against Paul Manafort that they could file quickly if the former chairman of Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign receives a presidential pardon."

"New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. is ready to file an array of tax and other charges against Manafort, according to two people familiar with the matter, something seen as an insurance policy should the president exercise his power to free the former aide. Skirting laws that protect defendants from being charged twice for the same offense has been one of Vance’s challenges. ... Nevertheless, Vance’s office has identified several areas where it believes Manafort can be charged with state offenses without triggering double jeopardy protections."

Fox News "psychiatrist" Keith Ablow, who diagnosed Obama as a "sociopath," and spread the lie that mass shooters are autistic, sued for beating and sexually abusing multiple female patients.

Miz Lindz has been on with Hugh Hewitt this morning. And Fox's America's Newsroom with Sandra Smith is also scheduled this morning. She's busy, busy, busy; but tweets all her day's appearances. It is always with friendly hosts and venues.

Is Miz Lindz auditioning for a Real Housewives gig? He puts Reality TV attention whores to shame with all of his news media appearances.

"AH DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH MULTIPLE PAHTNAHS!"

lol she is now on Fox Radio with Brian Kilmeade @ 11. But on radio, listeners don't get to see her. Lindz prefer cameras. Fourth appearance with media this morning. But she won't cuss on Fox media today, will she?

Once again: NYS prosecutors have prepared a case to be filed against Manafort in the event Trump pardons him. This is the most significant news so far today.

That's huge, R453. Thanks. Great news.

Just posting again ^^^ because it seems some people think making fun of Lindsey Graham is more important. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good to do, but... I would argue that the news about NYS neutering Trump’s pardon power is more pertinent.

Trap that mother fucker in a corner.

Adam Schiff's open letter today.

Reminder....the NY D.A. is Cyrus Vance, Jr......who let the Trumps off the hook for fraud and other crimes in exchange for "donations"....just sayin....

R455 posts are random and not organized by anyone's priorities. You are trying to subdue posts about Graham again. He's a player in this scenario; as are Nunes. McConnell, McCarthy, Burr, etc.

R458, it’s an elected position. Now he can’t NOT charge people connected with Trump, he’d be a pariah if he didn’t try.

r460...BWHAHAHAHA....ok......and even if he does, whats to prevent a slap on the wrist ala Acosta/Epstein ?

I think Cyrus Vance, Jr. has a Cuomo problem. I think Gov. Andrew Cuomo is holding Vance's balls in a vice, and this time he's fully prepared to go after Trump.

R453 is on the cutting edge. Now the top story.

NY needs to charge Stone. Look for something! Corsi, too, please.

Don Jr. is imminent, I bet. So much crime to prosecute in NY state.

I love it! Republicans are already doing damage control for Cohen’s testimony. They KNOW he’s bringing receipts.

Lindsey Graham claims not enough Republicans will vote to override a veto on the emergency wall funding declaration by DJT.

But he emphasizes he's 100% behind Trump.

Force a veto, nevertheless. Get each member of the House and Senate on record as to how they voted.

It's time we know who are the ride and die types and who can be reasoned with.

Donate for the new election in NC!

Cohen should drop his biggest new revelations while Gym Jordan and Marci Meadows are questioning him. Throw the Bone Spurs defenders off their propaganda scripts.

Is the House investigating Scott Pruitt? Or does he just get to escape?

Joyce Vance, among other messages, says Acosta needs to be removed now as Labor Secretary.

[quote]It's time we know who are the ride and die types and who can be reasoned with.

They are republicans. They are all the former and none are the latter.

So Acosta will eventually be forced out. That leaving Acting Secretary of Defense, Acting Labor Secretary, Acting Chief of Staff. Any other actings that Trump doesn't want to get run through the confirmation process? I totally expect DNI Dan Coats to be fired. Probably next week while Trump is away. That would be acting DNI chief.

Breaking: Mueller report not expected next week -- MSNBC -- senior DOJ official says

R473 Agreed re Dan Coats, Director of National Intelligence. Can you imagine Dan's frustration dealing with this malignant narcissist?!

Dan Coats knew what he was getting himself into. Another Republican shithead who thought he could "serve" his country under Trump.

CNN: DOJ Official: Mueller Report Not Expected Next Week ("Psych! Our bad, sorry everybody.")

The ruse to distract from the Whittaker revelations was successful.

If he indeed lied to congress, then won’t he get the same fate as the others who did the same?

Furthermore, I believe these reports of the investigation coming to a close are not meant as just a distracting, but to add to the emotional exhaustion of a public that is waiting for justice.

How was this not obvious? Trump's idiot squad has announced/leaked the end of the Mueller investigation about 5000 times so far. That's what happened here, too. I'm just surprised at how much the media at it up.

Another Friday without Mueller indictments.

Can we *stop* looking at this like it's a Grisham novel!

R481, the Manafort filing is today.

Jake Tapper: Asked about criticism of Labor Sec’y Acosta for his handling as US Attorney of Jeffrey Epstein’s sex abuse of underage girls, POTUS said “I really don’t know too much about it. I know he’s done a great job as labor secretary and that seems like a long time ago."

Yashar Ali: "That seems like a long time ago," the President of the United States says about his labor secretary letting a pedophile off the hook.

The American people are owed a full explanation at the end of this. No way does one person get to decide what the public sees in this report.

There is absolutely zero reason to make a report of a report. The public needs to see the report for what it is.

THE FULL REPORT

Not some cliffs notes from the AG’s office.

The public DESERVES to know the truth. The public is OWED a detailed, exhaustive report.

Take NOTHING LESS!

This shit is hurting my head.

Anyone else here bored of this hysterical treason queen?

Ken Dilanian is like a better-looking Charlie Brown.

No, just with you, R488.

Ok, I heard that the report would not be out next week...now I heard it would be out by tonight! What the fuck is the story? Seems to me the media is in turmoil...why am I so confused?

R491, the final filings in the Manafort case are due tonight by midnight. The Mueller investigation is not even close to over.

This is going somewhere so stick with me (my weak Rachel impression):

In South Korea in the fall and winter of 2016 through 2017, literally millions of people protested in the cold in Seoul to remove the president. Every Saturday evening for three months. Literally millions.

I believe the protests started in large part because of reports of corruption, but also because of oppressive conservative policies, some borderline fascist (e.g., something to do with monitoring and prosecuting artists, I think). Families, students, civil society groups, etc. protested — ordinary people, not primarily activists or anything like that. Middle class people were sick of the bullshit. Her hardcore supporters were mostly very old people but also nationalist thugs (sounds familiar). There were counterprotests.

Media investigations of corruption and nonstop updates caused citizens to get out and protest. The protests spurred on the impeachment of the president in Korean parliament, and then her removal by the supreme court. Then she was prosecuted for corruption. She went to prison. 32-year sentence. She's in prison now.

If the Mueller report is so damning that all that's holding back Trump's removal is the Senate, maybe millions will be spurred on to come to DC and protest, with thousands also protesting in the hometowns and/or state capitals of the senators holding back conviction (after the House impeaches). I wouldn't be surprised if there's some spontaneous organizing on social media that makes it happen — when the report comes out, depending on what it says. Perhaps even if the summary the public is allowed to see is so meager that it's enraging.

They're playing with fire, the administration. recruiting Barr to keep the truth from us.

R491, you are VERY confused. Go back to thread one and read them all.

R488, bored with you though, yeah.

On Cuomo? Why would he bring that lying bitch on his show? Like Sarah, all Kelly does is lie, so he is a goddamn moron.

They really confused me today.

Why did Trump and his suckers put out that the Mueller investigation was at the end? Is it because of Barr? Did Barr ask Mueller to shut it down?

Some people say that some of the people on Mueller's staff have been getting ready to return to their old jobs. They claim that means the investigation is wrapping up. I haven't dug into the details, though.

R497 That's what Team Trump does. They abuse their positions of power to muddy up the water and gaslight the media/public. They are destroying public trust in the press and the government in order to get their followers to trust only them and their mouthpieces. Barr is proving he is very much Team Trump.

I thought maybe that Sarah Isgur political operative's first day at CNN coincided with CNN's press release that Mueller was ordered to end his Russia investigation part of his report and present it to Congress. As if it were a giant stunt to show what an attention-getting liar, thus a tremendous asset, CNN acquired.

I think at this point Trump and his team are trolling Mueller and trying to push his buttons to get him mad and lose his temper to declare him unhinged and not fit to lead this investigation.

"a shitshow", "fuckin", "a big one"?

Lindsey, shut your mouth!

Rick Wilson:

Reporters should be honest about the fact that *much* of the time they report the Mueller report is about to be turned in that it's coming from White House or Trump orbit sources.

RIck Wilson is correct. Every single time, it’s come from WH sources and has been incorrect. This time, I believe it came from the abominable Sarah Isgur Flores.

Enough with the Lindsey Graham posts. He is irrelevant to the Mueller probe. We don’t need on-the-hour updates about his hissyfits. You’re just clogging up the threads and making them difficult to read when you add a link to a Lindsay Graham article this late in a thread. The real story today is the coming Manafort filing and the reporting that NYS is ready to prosecute him, rendering Trump’s pardon power useless.

Who could possibly have predicted that the "news" of the impending Mueller report would be retracted days later?

I’m also sick of the breathless updates about Lindsey Graham accompanied by yet another photo of his hog-like face.

Anyone could tell days ago that the “Mueller will be done in a week!” story was utter bullshit. I hope Ken Delanian is getting eviscerated on Twitter.

They're purposely trying to make (gullible) people fatigued with the whole thing. They want people to be sick and tired of hearing about it. It's always low IQ mind games with cheeto and the deplorables.

As the 84 threads attest to, we will never grow tired of Mueller defending our democracy and sending each and every one of these crooks away in handcuffs.

I think it is possible, even likely, that "the investigation is winding down" stories are put out by Trump's people in order to placate the President.

It is well known that people inside the government go on TV specifically to try to communicate with Trump, who knows no other reality. Everyone talks about "performing for an audience of one" -- Trump. That's all Sarah Sanders is ever doing, that's all Whitaker is doing, etc., etc. Trump's first attorney kept telling Trump the investigation was almost over to stop him from going nuts. That's probably what's happening right now. Trump is insane, and his own people are trying to calm him down by having him hear, on TV, that his troubles are almost over.

[quote]Some people say that some of the people on Mueller's staff have been getting ready to return to their old jobs. They claim that means the investigation is wrapping up.

I'd wager those are the people specifically working on the Manafort case, which is coming to an end.

BREAKING -- Cohen gave prosecutors new information about irregularities in Trump family business, also a donor to the inaugural committee.

[quote]Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, met last month with federal prosecutors in Manhattan, offering information about possible irregularities within the president’s family business and about a donor to the inaugural committee, according to people familiar with the matter.

[quote]Mr. Cohen, who worked at the Trump Organization for a decade, spoke with the prosecutors about insurance claims the company had filed over the years, said the people, who did not elaborate on the nature of the possible irregularities.

[quote]While it was not clear whether the prosecutors found Mr. Cohen’s information credible and whether they intended to pursue it, the meeting suggests that they are interested in broader aspects of the Trump Organization, beyond their investigation into the company’s role in the hush money payments made before the 2016 election to women claiming to have had affairs with Mr. Trump. Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty last summer to arranging those payments.

[quote]The prosecutors also questioned Mr. Cohen about a donor to the president’s inaugural committee, Imaad Zuberi, a California venture capitalist and political fund-raiser, according to the people familiar with the matter, who were not authorized to discuss the confidential meeting. Around the time that Mr. Zuberi contributed $900,000 to the committee, he also tried to hire Mr. Cohen as a consultant and wrote him a substantial check, one of the people said.

[quote]Although Mr. Cohen did not go through with the arrangement, he was building a consulting business at the time with clients who sought to understand and have access to the Trump administration.

[quote]A spokesman for Mr. Zuberi, Steve Rabinowitz, confirmed the check on Friday, saying it was for $100,000 and never cashed. Mr. Zuberi, the only person directly referenced in a recent subpoena the prosecutors sent the inaugural committee, had previously denied having any dealings with Mr. Cohen beyond a few conversations.

YAAAAS - NYT: Michael Cohen gave prosecutors new info on irregularities in the Trump family business.

Bye Ivanka and Junior Mint!

Oh, Boris at R488 you are the definition of unhinged. Only someone unhinged would need to post that same comment in 84 threads. You seem worried and scared. Not gonna be able to afford enough borscht for the family?

R514 -- meet R511-r514.

I’d love more Treason Queen. Is that like Dairy Queen? Doesn’t matter. More is better.

I don’t mind multiple posts of good news, personally!

R488 is funny. He’s bored with the “treason queen” but his asshole is all up this thread.

I'm beyond sick of these threads detailing every single breath that Lindsay Graham takes.

He has nothing to do with Mueller so far.

Ari has that lying douche Lewandowski on - who the fuck wants to see him lie? I hope Richard painter goes to town on him.

Graham chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee and he has much to do with Trump, every day. Graham has been railing against FISA warrants, investigative personnel, DOJ, etc., all of which are counter to the inquiry.

To say Graham has nothing to do with the Mueller investigation is nonsense.

R520 you have a special interest in trying to disassociate Graham from the discussion.

R491 try to keep up. There is a sentencing report for Manafort, due tonight. The was also a rumor about the Mueller report being finalized next week, which most of us on DL already knew was fake news, but CNN and others believed. Now the Justice department is telling every one no report next week. Which we already knew because at DL we know things.

Now. As to why this rumor about the Mueller investigation being over happened, let me repeat what I said earlier. I am getting blurry as to time lines. But it went something like this. The New York Times published an explosive piece on the way Trump was constantly interfering with the Mueller investigation, through his stooge, Matt Whitaker. He was also pressuring Whitaker to intervene in the SDNY.

Trump appointed a U.S Attorney over the SDNY who recused himself from overseeing the FBI investigation of Trump's foundation and his family business interests. He asked Whitaker to tell the guy to un recuse himself and get involved in the investigation. Whitaker refused.

Around the same time, for two or three days Andrew McCabe was all over TV talking about Russia, and that Trump might be a Russian asset, and Trump was a threat to National Security. Then, at the sametime, later that day, we learn that Jared and Michael Flynn were attempting to sell nuclear technology to the Saudis, and that it is illegal to do that, and that when they first attempted it they were stopped, but the deal seems to have been brought back to life in recent months.

So Donald Trump needed to change the subject. So a very discreet leak about Mueller probably wrapping up his investigation and coming out with a report within the next week or two did the job. Suddenly everything else was off the front pages and Mueller and his report and the end of the investigation was all over the place.

I think Mueller is winding things up. I think he is probably finalizing his charging documents so he can file indictments against the big enchiladas. That may require another month or two I'm thinking some time in May. The WH is anxious because they are looking at the 2020 election and how this might affect it. But that horse is already out of the barn.

If the report was released tomorrow it would have a negative impact on Trump no matter what it says. I think if Barr fucks with him and tries to stop him, Barr may be in a world of trouble. I believe Barr is more than likely focusing on pardons which is what he did for George H .W. Bush. He has his son -in-law over at the WH in the Special Counsel's office and one of the many tasks of that office is to research and investiv=gate pardons.

[quote]"a shitshow", "fuckin", "a big one"

Things Lindsay Graham says when he looks in a mirror.

Only one of them is true.

I don't mind the Graham posts. They are like the jester performing between the beheadings!

I think it's overkill to endlessly post "Lindsay Backs Trump!" 17 times a day. We know that.

Why does her every TV appearance rate a rash of comments which are always the same thing?

I hope she goes to jail as well but I don't think every time LG takes a breath is needed as part of the discussion here.

The threads end up with nonsense filler.

Ari Member has schmucks like Corey L. on so he can prove how Tough he is. Mr. Big Shot, that Ari.

If Cory L is on, I'm not watching.

The exact reporting never was that Mueller was wrapping up his investigation. The reporting was that the DOJ was preparing to receive the Mueller report which could happen as early as next week. The news media tied these two things together but really only had sources saying the DOJ was preparing. Yes, they would be preparing. They have a new AG. The report can be released at any time. The way Barr is going to handle the report is completely different than how Whitaker or Rosenstein would handle the report. Of course, he was preparing.

[quote]The threads end up with nonsense filler.

Your shit complaints are the worst filler. And, who cares? Is there some limit on thread space? Do we only get 85 threads? So, we'll start another thread when this one fills up.

Someone I know said all the repugs on news defending Pres Bone Spurs are the worst because the media picks the screaming, frothing at the mouth conservative on purpose to make them look bad. He said they don't have reasoned conservatives on to defend him like they do all the liberals. I replied, very calm at first, that he was mistaken. The reason the news media doesn't have any one on to defend him in a cogent, reasoned way was because (voice sharply rising to a scream) those conservatives have all fucking seen the light and hate the mother fucker and say it every day. Wilson! Wallace! Schmidt! Boot! Will! Frum! Wake up! There is nothing to defend in a cogent, reasoned way! I then said, "Or so I heard" in a calm manner.

Wait a sec so ken dilanians reporting about the Mueller report was WRONG?

Chuck Todd Previews the Incoming ‘Mueller Storm’: DC Equivalent of a ‘Category 5 Hurricane’

Huckabeast been quiet?

Apart from PBS and C-SPAN, American news is presented with such shallow sensationalism.

Dilanian's now trying to save face with this re: Mueller report next week.

"There's concern it might step on the President's trip, and the officials at the Department of Justice just do not want to do that."

R537 But while the blowhard is out of the country, it would be perfect time to indict a Trump family member, though.

BUMP

r434, Who was going to get rid of Trump in the first 3 months? The REP House? The REP Senate? A crowd of angry villagers with pitch forks?

Get real. Even if Obama hadn't been afraid to say something, there's no way Congress would have taken any of this up and come anywhere close to impeaching Drumpf.

Just in case you hadn’t heard, Mueller is wrapping up his report in the next few days. It’s true. I mean it this time. Take my word for it. Honest.

There is no Mueller.

Mueller concluded his report and determined it was a nothingburger. He has closed up shop. No more investigation, so let's get back to Hilary!

Any news re the Manafort filing? I’m a tad drunk so I’m not up to date today.

Not yet r544

Thanks, r545. I am sobering up in anticipation of some good news!

^ I hav to point out that quite a few of these filings have gone down to the wire. What that tells me is that Mueller is squeezing everything he can from his staff to make sure the filings are perfect.

It’s 90 minutes to midnight on the east coast.

What gives?

Keep it tuned to Brian if anything goes down.

11pm in the East, still nothing on that Manafort filing.

I’m only a little nervous.... I think Manafort and his lawyers are trying to strike a deal. It’s the only thing that makes sense for this to go down to the wire.

It’s possible that’s what’s going on, R551, but lawyers frequently go up to the last minute with filings.

Yeah but they’re required by law to file something by midnight tonight. I don’t think it’s a last minute plea deal.

Glenn Kirschner said it might be that the judge is going over redactions carefully since we’ve had some snafus in that regard lately.

But god, the suspense is killing me. MSNBC’s hosts tonight all seem like “jeez, we thought we would spend the hour pouring over this thing” and they’re left to just rehash the same news of the day. Not that there hasn’t been a lot of news, but I think we were all expecting something to end the evening with a bang.

So glad to see I’m not the only one who’s sick to death of the L Graham shit on this thread. No, Miss Linz Troll, we do not all have a vested interest in suppressing posts about the Linzmeister. He is NOT worth obsessing over. Seriously, one post every day or two about him is enough. Start a dedicated Linz thread of your own if you can’t make it through the day without posting about him multiple times. As of now, he has nothing to do with the Mueller probe.

Hey everyone, is there a live feed that’s watching this real time? I can’t believe only 15 minutes left. Or, r553, do we think it’s been filed and they’re just going over the redactions?

Well, the lawyers for both sides were legally required to file today/tonight, and it’s supposed to be posted on the public docket before midnight. I think. Maybe they were just required to file before midnight but the judge isn’t required to post it publicly until it’s been redacted properly. I don’t know.

Going to check out Twitter to see.

Welp, it’s midnight. God only knows what the judge is up to, if the filing will be posted online in the middle of the night or tomorrow morning, but the Mueller She Wrote podcast Tweeted that there are (they hear) a lot of redactions which the judge has to go over before it can be posted online.

Lots of redactions mean lots of crimes (and possibly other cases) are mentioned.

Yes, supposedly lots of redactions means the investigation is not shutting down any time soon, because evidence is still being developed.

So long as it got filed, that's what counts.

it was filed and the judge will decide what part of it if any to make public. Mueller has recommended redactions. I am speculating that he has named people who have not yet been served with their indictments yet.

Well, it has to get posted. It’s highly unlikely the whole thing will be redacted. There is zero chance that no part of it is shared publicly.

Poor Judge, expected to stay up late to rule on a FATASS crook.

R484, Trump was, of course, speaking of how HIS experience with Epstein's Entourage "seems like a long time ago."

Because why would ANY moment of either Acosta's or Epstein's life "seem... like a long time ago" to a man who allegedly isn't connected or paying attention to them?

I mean, a day in the life of an unacquainted Joe Schmoe doesn't "seem like" being set in time at all to me, not in the present, not in the future, and not "a long time ago."

Fat ass, smug hillbilly Sarah Huckabee Sanders waddles up to the WH microphone

And queefs lie after lie out of her dirty pussy....

I hope Mikey has his entire planned testimony written down and in Mueller's hands.

Why would anyone still listen to Sarah H. or anyone from the White House? It's all deliberate misinformation and distraction.

There should be a news outlet that doesn't cover the White House lies, but the actual truth that is tried to be covered up or perverted by those lies. Say, if the White House insists that Hillary lost the popular vote the media outlet would just post the actual outcome of the popular vote in the 2016 election as response (without addressing the lie) or a "just a reminder" hashtag or something.

[quote]NYS prosecutors have prepared a case to be filed against Manafort in the event Trump pardons him. This is the most significant news so far today.

This doesn't smell right.

Cyrus Fucking Vance Jr? Along with the Florida Attorney General, Vance Jr is one of the people known to have given favorable treatment following donations from Trump.

The source of the information is so incredibly murky--"according to people familiar with the matter." That could just as easily by Guiliana as someone working in the New York County District Attorney's office. It could be Lewandowski, who seems to be on a media tour now with appearances on both Ari Melber and Anderson Cooper Friday.

"Skirting laws that protect defendants from being charged twice for the same offense has been one of Vance’s challenges." Skirting laws doesn't sound like something career staff at a DAs office would be OK with.

If you have a case that someone has broken the law, why would you not go ahead and pursue it? Don't say "because it's too expensive." You just said you devoted resources to developing a case against Manafort, and it took an unusual amount of effort to get around NYS's double-jeopardy law.

The actual Attorney General of New York State seems more logical to be leading in this area. When there's reporting on this from Tish James's office, it will be more credible.

All of this sounds like an effort to, in advance, derail/discount non-federal charges that are in the works for the merry band of Russia lovers.

R532 I have the same reaction to people who complain about how negative the media is toward Trump. I not so calmly tell them we have never had such a venal, craven, amoral asshole leading our country! It his own damn fault he gets bad press!

Anyone that believes Dotard gets "negative" media attention is mentally ill.

Apparently Manafort has started showing up to court using a cane. It doesn't really mean anything, except maybe a sympathy ploy, but I know DL has this thing about canes.

DJT has a whole network devoted to promoting him while bashing Democrats. It is Murdoch's Fox News. And right-wing radio is raging more than ever. While DJT bashes CNN, the network has plenty of hired commentators that advocate for, and spin in behalf of, DJT's interests. -----------

This flurry of scolding and controlling messaging of 'don't post anything negative about Lindsay Graham" is quite odd and suspicious.

R567 I can well believe Dump make a nice contribution to Vance, but the fun thing is, he really is under no obligation to be nice now.

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Even if Mueller’s probe concludes soon, things are far from over

Far from over, you say?

The stunning amount of criminal wrong-doing, especially with regard to Trump's businesses and his Russian interests points to what amounts to criminal negligence on the part of the FBI-SDNY. I see Rudy Giuliani's hands all over this going back years and years. I hope he is one of the people who gets indicted at some point.

r572....what the hell does that even mean....he wasnt obligated before...and he sure wasnt obligated to take a "donation".....that in itself is illegal (bribe). Has nobody learned from this Trump saga that it is his m.o. to pay people off and to hide those payments through straw companies, donations, etc....

The GOP nominated and elected a criminal. And they fucking KNEW he was a criminal. Now they either have to protect him or watch their party be destroyed.

Anyone defending Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice, plain and simple. McConnell, in particular, deserves a stretch in jail before he claims his special place in Hell.

^^^instead of taking a "bribe". he should have added additional charges to those corrupt fuckers....instead, he exposed himself as being for sale, therefore, he CANT BE TRUSTED.

r580 goes with r578...sorry

McConnell and Ryan need to be brought to justice.

I can easily see McTurtle being walked away in cuffs and crying like a baby.

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McConnell, like Trump, thinks hes protected and invincible.

And while we're still on the topic of that lying fucking beast:

In an interview with Axios, a former DOJ official claims it will be difficult for the Justice Department to deny members of Congress all of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigatory files on Donald Trump after he submits his final report.

Speaking with Mike Allen, Matt Miller, a former Justice Department official under Obama who now works as a legal analyst for MSNBC, said that Mueller’s files will contain a treasure trove of information.

“[It’s] not just the Mueller report, whatever that is, that’s relevant. It’s also all the underlying evidence he collected,” Miller explained.

Referring to an FBI investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that turned up no criminality, Miller stated, “[The] FBI set a precedent in the Clinton case by turning over nearly the entire case file to Congress within three months of the investigation closing.”

“Now that that precedent has been set, [there’s] no good argument for not doing so here,” he added.

Miller also claimed there will be plenty to pore over, citing a massive number of FBI interviews conducted with associates of Donald Trump.

The DOJ is going after Zinke AFTER he left the Trump Cabinet.

There will be prosecutions for YEARS.

They need to go after all of them. Gone from the Administration or not.

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