Does anyone have an update on how Kevin Williams is doing nowadays?
The last I heard he posted a pro Trump message on his FB.
Was a massive fan of his. Just curious.
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Does anyone have an update on how Kevin Williams is doing nowadays?
The last I heard he posted a pro Trump message on his FB.
Was a massive fan of his. Just curious.
by Anonymous | reply 600 | February 25, 2019 8:35 PM |
He was handsome in his young but. hunk phase. Is he a ginger?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 25, 2019 11:45 AM |
R1 Affirmative!
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 25, 2019 12:35 PM |
open for business.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 25, 2019 12:41 PM |
R4 Where abouts?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 25, 2019 1:17 PM |
That scene where his ass is violated every which way on a Lazy Susan is disturbing but undeniably hawt.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 26, 2019 4:20 AM |
The lazy Susan scene has to be up there with his scene with Chad Douglas on the rowing machine.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 26, 2019 12:42 PM |
Awesome actor.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 26, 2019 7:03 PM |
Like other stars of his calibre, he needs to bequeath his hole to science.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 26, 2019 7:09 PM |
My favorite scene is where Mike Henson shows up at his hotel to give him a massage. Some nice sexy build up.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 26, 2019 7:17 PM |
I have never seen the lazy susan scene. I heard it was banned.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 26, 2019 7:21 PM |
He had to have known what was gonna happen when he laid down on that lazy Susan.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 26, 2019 7:59 PM |
I suspect he was being fed poppers nonstop on the Lazy Susan. The way he rides those dildos is very hot.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 27, 2019 6:31 AM |
He is of a different era. It seems Ryan Murphy has taken his mantle. Scream is now tired and Dawson’s Creek is a joke now.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 27, 2019 6:36 AM |
R14
Lol.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 27, 2019 7:22 AM |
I think he epitomises the words porn star. I'm so pleased that he made it through the dreadful days of the 90s.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 27, 2019 3:33 PM |
“Dreadful days”?
You mean condoms in gay porn?
GHASTLY
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 27, 2019 4:03 PM |
Oh, please, can we rehash the condoms in pron bullshit once again?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 27, 2019 4:29 PM |
Was he straight?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 27, 2019 4:47 PM |
Yes, Rose, she was.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 27, 2019 4:50 PM |
Seeing the pic @ R19 reminds me of that iconic Falcon look. Lily white asses on guys who looked like they were fresh out of prep school. It's hard to believe that Falcon, the former gold star in gay porn, is now but a blip on the radar. Falcon is like the Sears and JC Penney of gay porn now. I don't know how they lost it all.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 27, 2019 5:18 PM |
Indeed, R22, truly a tragic tale worthy of Shakespeare.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 27, 2019 5:34 PM |
r22. The guys who created that iconic look died or retired. Then the porn market got flooded with Eastern Europe porn (with BelAmi emerging as high end porn studio). Gay porn got more diverse and other niche porn markets became bigger. That meant Falcon Studio made less profit. Then the internet took over which meant closet cases no longer had to use mail or gay bookstores to get new porn and could get it digitally. Falcon Studios was incredibly slow adapting to these changes and lagged behind while other porn studios established themselves quickly online and it turned into "Falcon, what?".
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 27, 2019 5:51 PM |
Is the lazy Susan scene still banned?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 27, 2019 6:28 PM |
The quality of the Falcon exclusive's really dropped too. I mean really, Ryan Rose? He's a second rate Sean Cody performer at best. Nice body, average performer at best and an ugly face.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 27, 2019 6:47 PM |
[quote]The quality of the Falcon exclusive's really dropped too
There isn't much money in porn anymore, so it is harder to entice guys into it.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 27, 2019 6:52 PM |
No wonder gay porn studios like Cockyboys and Helix embrace their female fans and consumers since gays alone can't keep them afloat.
Money talks.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 27, 2019 6:58 PM |
I was too young to see Williams' early films for falcon in the 80s, but I saw his films when he made a comeback in the 90s. he was fantastic. there was a video from falcon called "Betrayed" that had on the box cover an image of Williams' naked ass covered in white soap bubbles that remains to this day one of the hottest male erotic images I've ever seen.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 27, 2019 7:04 PM |
When he returned he didn't have that youthful beauty which was an important part of his success though r29.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 27, 2019 7:06 PM |
Weren't he and Luke Fuller in a brief relationship?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 27, 2019 7:07 PM |
It's hard to believe that Falcon, the former gold star in gay porn, is now but a blip on the radar. Falcon is like the Sears and JC Penney of gay porn now. I don't know how they lost it all.
Like Sears and JC Penney, they did not keep up with the times.
The golden blond preppy athletic guy with the distinct tan line getting fucked next to a swimming pool was a classic in the 80s, but then a new body type preveailed. Falcon was still the most popular studio when the preferred look (post AIDS) had changed to incredibly built men, and they headlined Tom Chase and Mike Branson; but then they both left the studio, and more importantly John Rutherford left it as studio head. The studio changed hands I don't know how many times, and they had a lot of trouble figuring out a distinctive look separate from what Rutherford was doing at Hot House or Bruce Cam was doing at Titan. Then even those looks became considered passé, and the online studios--Randy Blue, Sean Cody, and Corbin Fisher--dominated the market in the '00s.
Falcon is now coasting on its name, and is not very distinct from Hot House (with which it merged) or Raging Stallion (which has sadly abandoned the leather bodybuilder look it successfully developed in the 00s and is now much like Falcon).
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 27, 2019 7:10 PM |
[quote] When he returned he didn't have that youthful beauty which was an important part of his success though [R29].
That's probably so, but one of the things about being too young for porn is that when you are old enough to have access to it (and in the 90s you had to rent videos), you want the newest thing--not the things that were popular in the generation before you. So I had no interest in early 80s Falcon videos, and actually did not have access to them. I knew Kevin Williams then as a 30something hunk, not as a 20something twink (which is how he got to be famous).
I remember when I was online in the late 90s it used to infuriate gay baby boomers that GenXers were not interested in their porn, and I realized that the generation after me would not be interested in the videos I jerked off to in the 90s.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 27, 2019 7:13 PM |
Did he get ripped to shreds for the pro-Trump facebook post?
Has he apologized and recanted yet?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 27, 2019 7:18 PM |
No one is paying attention to Kevin Williams these days r34.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 27, 2019 7:19 PM |
Actually surprised he is still alive - good for him!!
by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 27, 2019 7:24 PM |
Even in 2000s, Falcon had some standout and popular exclusives though. Like Erik Rhodes, Leo Giamani, Roman Heart, Jason Adonis, and even Matthew Rush. So they kept up to an extent to their online competition.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 27, 2019 7:25 PM |
What is the lazy susan scene and why is it banned?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 27, 2019 7:25 PM |
Falcon should have gobbled up Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher. That was the most realistic path for Falcon to go in, college jock boys who were gay for pay. They were already doing that with their Jocks line.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 27, 2019 7:35 PM |
I attended a non-porn script reading Rush. No talent. Billy Brandt had a nicer ass in person.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 27, 2019 7:38 PM |
I remember the days when you could be a gay porn star and nobody would find out, except for other gays. I think that made it easier for Falcon to attract super hot guys and closet-cases to do scenes with them. Now with the internet and social media, it's impossible to hide your porn career. I had porn star friends who did lots of porn in the 80s and their families, co-workers and old classmates had no idea.
That's one of the things I miss most about the pre-internet days. People could live secret lives, or disappear entirely, with no one finding out.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 27, 2019 7:41 PM |
[quote]The golden blond preppy athletic guy with the distinct tan line getting fucked next to a swimming pool was a classic in the 80s
That was Chuck Holmes' preference; in fact, we owe the whole Calvin Klein aesthetic to Holmes as much as Klein.
[quote]Falcon was still the most popular studio when the preferred look (post AIDS) had changed to incredibly built men
Post AIDs? I know what you mean, but still... the bottom line is that the twinks of the 80s grew up and became those incredible built men before succumbing to AIDs. And the whole muscleman look was part of what came out of the AIDs crisis, in that the way the virus decimated the body and the look of health became the exaggerated overly muscular look that dominates gay porn. But Falcon being the most popular studio in the era you're claiming? Hardly. Falcon was basically ruined by Chi Chi LaRue and her gang of thugs that bullied Holmes as his health declined into making movies that he had no interest in making... with condoms.
[quote]John Rutherford left it as studio head
Rutherford was, more or less, forced out (and just a fine point: you've confused Rutherford with Steven Scarborough, who left Falcon to launch Hot House because Holmes did not like the leathered/muscled look — and the focus on buttplay — that was Scarborough's cup of tea). Rutherford's departure from Falcon came with a large payout (in porn terms), which he blew buying Colt from Jim French (and then screwed out of his rightful payout). Rutherford was always more interested in selling calendars, toys and clothes to compliment what he thought was the gay porn lifestyle, and that is was what drove Falcon from its industry leading perch by losing its focus on making good wackoff material right as the internet exploded, the technology to make movies became readily accessible to the masses, and the stigma of being gay, and particularly a gay porn star, waned.
Holmes' success came from his background in sales (he was selling aluminum siding in rural America prior to starting Falcon) combined with the advent of the VCR moving porn from sleazy downtown theatres into the privacy of the bedroom. Falcon's demise came at the hands of condom nazis determined to change gay men's behaviour (yay!) as our numbers temporarily declined, and the internet finished Falcon off when others came along willing to go where Rutherford, Scarborough and Cam were not.
In the middle of this, Chris Ward entered the picture, bringing with him no business experience, an outsized ego, and a narrow view of what gay men wanted to see, which was popular long enough for Raging Stallion to grow too big for even Ward's considerable britches, just in time for piracy and the internet to come along and smash gay porn to smithereens. You'd think that watching Rutherford nearly bankrupt Falcon by making an incredibly expensive dud (that stupid Hawaiian film that reportedly cost about a half of a million dollars to make and sold nowhere near that many copies) would have told Ward to abandon his Hollywood-esque dreams, but no; he borrowed enough money from his online partner (AEBN) such that when he couldn't pay it back, they owned his studio lock, (film) stock and barrel.
And, of course, the nail in the proverbial coffin was that bareback came along and took over the market, helmed by younger, more in-touch guys (albeit some of them certifiably insane... looking at you, Paul Morris) who saw the potential of the internet and took full advantage of it. Whether it was Sean Cody (a former prison guard or parole officer, if memory serves, which is how he found so many of those incredibly hot guys), Randy Blue, or the plethora of newcomers that now form establishment gay porn, or the fact that average schmoes in the middle of nowhere filming themselves and their friends fucking sans condoms, Falcon/Raging Stallion/Hot House and separately Titan, Channel 1, All Worlds and the lot where done. Add in the financial crisis of 2008, and it's a wonder that any of these old names are still around at all.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 27, 2019 8:40 PM |
Apparently Miss R42 has done doctoral-level research on the history of porn studio executives' biographies.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 27, 2019 9:02 PM |
I didn't have to do research, R43; I lived it.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | January 27, 2019 9:08 PM |
R31, Yes, they were a couple for a while. Apparently Kevin decided he preferred topping, and Lane enjoyed bottoming, so that was how that relationship worked. Lane Fuller was really a strange cypher of a porn star.
R34, Matthew Rettenmund (BoyCulture) outed him for his pro-Trump Facebook posts, and was apparently blocked by Ted (Kevin). Apparently many people were very unhappy with him for that.
R38, Here's what I found (I never watched that scene, and wouldn't want to see it, either). I don't like rough sex.
[quote]Further adding to his resume, Williams appeared in Hot Rods 2: Young & The Hung; a highly controversial release that was banned in several countries due to the extreme sexual content of the "Lazy Susan" scene in which Williams was dominated by leather-clad men with dildos and steel balls, and double-penetrated.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 27, 2019 9:16 PM |
[quote] I didn't have to do research, [R43]; I lived it.
Are you a former porn performer yourself? Like Chris Steele, or Ryan Idol?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | January 27, 2019 9:21 PM |
Well, this is my bed, and this is my parents’ bed...and this is where I sleep.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | January 27, 2019 9:55 PM |
I really love DL for the in-depth information that R42 gave us. It was really interesting.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 27, 2019 11:28 PM |
R42 I think it was the guy that created Corbin Fisher that was in law enforcement instead of Sean Cody. I've always thought CF was a poor knockoff of SC anyway plus their models often looked too similar. I totally boycotted CF after they got lawsuit happy and the owner seemed a huge jerk.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | January 28, 2019 9:07 AM |
Isn't there some legend that the original owner of Falcon Studios stipulated that the new owners were never allowed to release bareback scenes? I think that's what kept them from going bareback until now.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 28, 2019 10:46 AM |
R46: No, not a performer. I've written here before about how I answered an ad on Craigslist a long, long time ago when a small studio in SF was looking for help. It was on a lark. It was fun, I got to know the guys who ran the studio, ended up helping out around their office and learned a lot about how porn is made and sold. As I wrote earlier, eventually dealing with the bullshit from the gay community over the content of the movies I was helping to make added to my overall stress and after they took a production hiatus, I declined to go back. They've since left the business.
R49: Thanks.
R50: You're probably right about whether is was CF or SC. I can't recall the specifics other than one of them had worked in LE, and leveraged it to find talent. What I do know, however, is that how Sean Cody got out of the business was really quite sad: he sold his studio to the people who had, for all intents and purposes, pirated and stolen his content. I think, faced with the reality that fighting piracy is a losing battle, he gave up and sold the studio to the pirates. Ironic that they stole his content, monetized it, and ended up buying the content they stole with money they'd stolen. It's a sad state of affairs.
R51: I've never heard about this contractual stipulation, which is not to say it didn't or doesn't exist, but I doubt it. Chuck Holmes was opposed to using condoms in movies. He was sick and dying and didn't have the strength to stand up to Chi Chi, the person who is most responsible for the destruction of the gay porn industry (although there are arguments for other's contributions). Chi Chi went scorched Earth and drove a wedge through the industry, turning pornographers and the community at large against one another by casting condom use as a moral issue, and while I understand that at the time the community had to do something, what he did was as reprehensible as anything anyone else did to the industry (and that includes everyone from the Meese Commission, religious right figures, and all of the government's activities to make it more difficult and onerous to make a living in porn, from the incredibly complex record keeping requirements to even the Obama Administration's efforts at choking the industry off through intimidating banks and credit card companies from providing services to the industry — but that's a topic for another thread). Maybe if Chi Chi hadn't bifurcated the industry, it would have been in better shape to come together to fight against everything thrown at it, piracy and transition to the web... but thanks to Chi Chi, cooperation was an impossibility, especially for a segmented industry as small as gay porn.
The only reason that Falcon has only recently began filming and releasing bareback scenes is because the entire industry (save for the grandpas at TItan and, naturally, Chi Chi... but when was the last time you saw or even heard about anything hot coming from them?) has gone bareback and condom scenes simply don't sell. And don't forget, thanks to Chris Ward's mismanagement, Falcon/Hot House/Raging Stallion is now AEBN (owned and run by straight people) and they don't give a shit about the gay community beyond taking our money.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 28, 2019 4:00 PM |
In depths analysis again R52 Thank you.
Will Falcon survive in the future or are they just living on borrowed time right now?
by Anonymous | reply 53 | January 28, 2019 10:31 PM |
[quote] Was he straight?
Yes, straight down on every cock he could find.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 28, 2019 11:49 PM |
R52, Chi Chi is now directing bareback scenes.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | January 29, 2019 3:36 AM |
Chi Chi’s gotta pay the rent and get his fix of Kentucky Fried Chicken
Fun fact: my friend got Chi Chi old mattress. There was a giant dip in the mattress, because Chi Chi was still a big girl.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 29, 2019 3:52 AM |
Thanks for linking to that scene, R48. I had no idea the art of car repair included an appliance called a lazy Susan. Before seeing the scene, I struggled to visualize how in hell someone could perch precariously on a two foot wooden wheel, ass in the air with his hands and knees somewhere between spice jars, cans of Vienna sausages and a bag of Funyuns.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | January 29, 2019 8:23 AM |
"Fun fact: my friend got Chi Chi old mattress. "
Did he work for the CDC?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 29, 2019 10:01 AM |
R29, that's gratifying to hear. I was the stylist for that cover and it took FOREVER to get those soap suds just right!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | January 29, 2019 10:34 AM |
I couldn't play the link from R48
by Anonymous | reply 60 | January 29, 2019 2:08 PM |
[quote]The golden blond preppy athletic guy with the distinct tan line getting fucked next to a swimming pool was a classic in the 80s, but then a new body type prevailed.
You mean the tattooed trash type?
by Anonymous | reply 61 | January 29, 2019 2:49 PM |
So whatever happened to Lane?
by Anonymous | reply 62 | January 29, 2019 2:50 PM |
Senile grandpa alert at r61
Run away and freeze in a snow bank before the memory care attendants realize that you are missing
by Anonymous | reply 63 | January 29, 2019 3:03 PM |
I'm 38, R63. I take it you're tattooed trash?
by Anonymous | reply 64 | January 29, 2019 3:04 PM |
In you mind, you’re 38. Like all DLers are.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | January 29, 2019 3:07 PM |
And in your mind you're not trash. But y'are!
by Anonymous | reply 66 | January 29, 2019 3:08 PM |
[quote] There isn't much money in porn anymore, so it is harder to entice guys into it.
We know but Ryan Rose? A Falcon exclusive??!!! Yikes! His face could shutter the entire industry.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | January 29, 2019 3:12 PM |
R67 Ryan Rose had the gall to say he was the "last real porn star". Bitch please, more like a prime example how much the standards have fallen for porn stars.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | January 29, 2019 6:17 PM |
With the exception of Falcon’ In Your Wildest Dreams Kevin’s best work was William Higgins I like his audition video and the scene with Lazy Susan. He only gets fucked once or twice and for some reason they won’t let him suck divk. There was some talk Kevin didn’t like the scene and some of the video was locked in a vault. Catalina long closed down and Higgins supposedly moved to Prague and opened a new company. Strangely none of the videos feel like ahiggins work. He was the one and I think he was right to insist on shaving asses. Surely he died or in a home somewhere since he must be 100.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | January 29, 2019 6:34 PM |
R69 Higgens is still alive and still makes porn. He gave an interview to AVN.com a few months back that covered pretty much his whole career.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | January 29, 2019 7:09 PM |
Thx, R70!
by Anonymous | reply 72 | January 29, 2019 11:37 PM |
[quote]There isn't much money in porn anymore, so it is harder to entice guys into it.
It shouldn't be about the money. It should be about self-actualization and the satisfaction from doing something that helps others. People who do it for the money often don't end up well.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | January 29, 2019 11:42 PM |
My favorite Kevin Williams scene wasn't the Lazy Susan but the Falcon film where he was dragged into the woods by a bunch of hot guys, including a very young Carlos Morales, and they ran a train on him. But they were all wearing huge strap-ons. I think Kevin kept telling them to stop while obviously loving it.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | January 30, 2019 1:09 AM |
The late 90s/early 00s older ‘Comeback’ Kevin is hotter than his 80s twinkie self.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | January 30, 2019 1:35 AM |
The scene in Big Guns where he’s seduced by Mike Henson will always be my favorite.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | January 30, 2019 2:03 AM |
Glad he’s still alive, truly a miracle...
by Anonymous | reply 79 | January 30, 2019 2:11 AM |
He was super hot as a twink, but he aged quite well
by Anonymous | reply 80 | January 30, 2019 2:16 AM |
All that I can assume is that "Kevin" was one of the few individuals who was immune to HIV; nothing else accounts for the fact that he is still alive now.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | January 30, 2019 2:20 AM |
The older Kevin looks a bit like Andy Towle of Towleroad, non?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | January 30, 2019 2:21 AM |
Is he still with us?
by Anonymous | reply 83 | January 30, 2019 8:04 AM |
R81, or the cocktail works well for him.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | January 30, 2019 9:17 AM |
I credit Kevin (specifically 'Betrayed' Kevin) with my realization that I'm a top.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | January 30, 2019 1:42 PM |
I liked Kevin at first you could tell he liked to bottom and he looked so innocent while getting fucked several times. He left came back with a jacked up body and still very good looking but the magic was gone also the videos he did were uninspired.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 30, 2019 2:00 PM |
I think his movies were of their time. Twinkle or beefed up. I much preferred his earlier work.
Is he still with us? Anyone in contact?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | January 30, 2019 3:14 PM |
God, I remember coming across him when I was a younger buck and being in awe of him. So handsome and sexy.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | January 30, 2019 3:17 PM |
Very handsome!
by Anonymous | reply 89 | January 30, 2019 3:29 PM |
[quote]I have never seen the lazy susan scene. I heard it was banned.
I heard it was banned too.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | January 30, 2019 3:30 PM |
The whole thing with being banned: Falcon had different versions of many of their films. Potter Stewart's gave a famous opinion regarding obscenity ("I know it when I see it"). Obscenity laws in the US varied from one jurisdiction to the next. Where I live (Southern Ohio) you absolutely couldn't order any gay porn films that included things like fisting, enemas, or any kind of heavy-duty anal sex, and no incest themes, either. The same in many other jurisdictions. So I could never have ordered the film with the lazy susan scene. In other jurisdictions, you could. Enforcement was very local: I remember Harry Reems being prosecuted somewhere (I think Tennessee) for scenes he filmed elsewhere. What one jurisdiction decided was obscene had a chilling effect on a national basis. It was a different time.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | January 30, 2019 3:48 PM |
I remember back when Williams and Lane Fuller got in trouble for being drugged out of their minds on an airline flight, back when they were together. I don't remember if they were arrested or not.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | January 30, 2019 4:51 PM |
I always wondered why Higgins moved to Prague.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | January 30, 2019 4:59 PM |
I always thought the Falcon video with different version was just a way to get more money Usually the difference with the edited version was someone taking a traffic cone up the ass. That isn’t against the law is it?
by Anonymous | reply 94 | January 30, 2019 5:02 PM |
Amen R78. Makes me cum EVERY time.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | January 30, 2019 6:44 PM |
R53: Thank you.
R55: Miracles never cease! I was not aware that Chi Chi had relented, but I can't say I'm surprised. Reading between the lines in the linked article isn't difficult: Falcon is desperate to regain relevance in the gay porn world, and AEBN likely demanded that production moving forward be the most sellable it can, and that means bareback.
However, what a crock of shit Chi Chi spews with "I would not have made the decision to direct a bareback production unless I could be 100% confident that all the proper procedures were followed, and I knew that Falcon Studios Group would handle all the protocols relentlessly." The key word in that sentence is [italic]protocols[/italic] and I hope that Larry choked on it as he lied his way through that interview. There were protocols in place going back more than 15 years, but Chi Chi and his soulmate in attempting to destroy the gay porn industry, Michael Weinstein, refused to admit or even acknowledge that the protocols put forth by AIM (which I think was an acronym for Adult Industry Medical; the upshot was that Weinstein's AIDs Healthcare Foundation effectively destroyed AIM through intimidation, threats of lawsuits, and ultimately got the state of CA involved and the industry gave up rather than fight) were effective and directly addressed the threat that Chi Chi later professed were his greatest concerns.
Model safety was the fallback position that Chi Chi claimed when it became clear that the condom message had largely failed. That failure was, however, due in large part to Chi Chi's inability to ever address the problems inherent with condom usage, specifically, that you must use a condom every single time, it must be used correctly, and condoms were useless in situations for anything other that buttfucking. I can't tell you how many times I saw pornographers, AIDs activists and other interested parties yell at the teevee when watching a Chi Chi scene that exposed models to STIs without care or concern for their regard. But that was Chi Chi to a 'T'. Of course, when you're known for paying models with illicit drugs...
For those that don't know, the protocols were pretty straightforward: every model was tested within 24 to 48 hours of the shoot using the most accurate and quickly-reporting PCR-DNA test, and the results of the tests were shared, with full knowledge and agreement, with the film producer(s) and co-stars. Everybody signed confidentiality agreements and the models gave specific permission for the results to be shared in a secure environment and with properly-trained personnel to handle any unforeseen test results. It was expensive, but worth it. And plainly stated: it worked. There were zero reported incidents of seroconversion on sets using the AIM protocols.
--continued
by Anonymous | reply 96 | January 30, 2019 7:42 PM |
--continued:
But that was insufficient for Chi Chi and the condom nazis, and revealed their real concern: do as I say, not as I do. Their concern was rooted in less-than accurate information, was outdated and should have been shoved onto the scrapheap of bad ideas with good intentions. To wit, Chi Chi never successfully integrated condoms into his movies, as was the early and most prevalent criticism levelled at the condom nazis. Chi Chi failed to make condoms sexy; hence, the magic condom that appeared on an erect penis just prior to insertion. Nevermind the fact that pre-cum has a higher viral load than cum. Nevermind that bodily fluids in the mouth, eyes, or other orifices is just as dangerous as cum in the ass.
The irony is that the protocols that Chi Chi's (and Weinstein's) efforts effectively killed were the best possible interim solution until PrEP came along (and oh boy, did PrEP throw them into a tizzy! but again, for another thread...). But by the time that the protocols were in full force and working, their hefty expense effectively prevented regular use thanks to the razor-thin margins in gay porn largely brought about because Chi Chi split the industry into warring factions, and the side that needed to use them (the condom nazis) couldn't afford them, or worse, treated HIV transmission as a moral issue enforced through peer pressure, like gay men haven't fought and rejected stigma enough already. No, Chi Chi and the condom nazis poured it on like throwing gasoline on a fire puts it out.
Sorry to drone on so long. Back to Kevin WIlliams' beautiful ass...
by Anonymous | reply 97 | January 30, 2019 7:43 PM |
I read that Higgins had to leave the country because he got into trouble with the law. I assumed it was tax related, but it was apparently serious enough for him to flee.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | January 30, 2019 7:53 PM |
The lazy Susan scene was restored and is on the DVD I own. I bought it maybe 5-10 years ago?
I personally didn’t find it all that hot.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | January 30, 2019 8:32 PM |
Falcon was famous for their "banned" scenes back in the day, only available in a more expensive version of the video (so clearly not banned at all). It was just another ploy to get gullible morons to buy the more expensive video. The banned scenes were never anything exciting. I remember one of their banned scenes turned out to be an enema scene. Fools paid $30.00 extra to see two guys shoot water out of their asses in a shower. WOW!
by Anonymous | reply 100 | January 30, 2019 9:56 PM |
I remember there were Director's Cut versions featuring kink scenes. And they charged extra for including the glossy boxcovers (otherwise you'd just receive the VHS tape).
by Anonymous | reply 101 | January 30, 2019 10:17 PM |
How is Kevin? Any update?
by Anonymous | reply 102 | January 30, 2019 10:27 PM |
I know that he claims to have been raped at least ten times. Before porn, while doing porn, and after.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | January 30, 2019 10:32 PM |
Damn. That's seriously fucked up.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | January 30, 2019 10:33 PM |
I couldn't order the 'deluxe' editions of the movies back in the old days where I live. That's okay: I don't have any interest in fisting or enemas or stuff like that. The internet has opened things up, obviously. I know some of the younger members get annoyed by how specific some of us porn buffs can be, but they don't know what it was like to send in an order form, pay a lot of money, and wait for weeks for your eagerly awaited movie to finally arrive.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | January 30, 2019 10:48 PM |
I’m sorry to here Kevin was raped. I wonder how he found out?
by Anonymous | reply 106 | January 30, 2019 10:51 PM |
Shit...hear.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | January 30, 2019 10:53 PM |
I remember I was so fucking pissed that my copy of Falcon's Snapshots had just three scenes instead of the regular four since I bought the version that didn't feature the fisting and other anal play.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | January 30, 2019 11:05 PM |
Most versions of Betrayed are edited so that they don't contain the part where Kevin takes the squirt gun up the ol' pooper. GOD that part is hot!
by Anonymous | reply 109 | January 30, 2019 11:06 PM |
Seriously. Taking a squirt gun up your ass. Someone must have started banging you when you were nine years old to make you that damaged.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | January 30, 2019 11:10 PM |
You obviously haven't seen it, R110! Shit's HOT!
by Anonymous | reply 111 | January 30, 2019 11:12 PM |
I didn't say it wasn't hot.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | January 30, 2019 11:15 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 114 | January 30, 2019 11:16 PM |
There were rumors that he was raped by Chad Douglas. Supposedly Chad was a bottom is his personal life and not at all like his on-screen persona. So who knows if it's true.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | January 30, 2019 11:19 PM |
[quote] It's hard to believe that Falcon, the former gold star in gay porn, is now but a blip on the radar
It's tragic when that happens.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | January 30, 2019 11:19 PM |
Look, there was a time where Falcon Studios made squirting water out of your ass hot. Not to mention hot guys lowering themselves down a traffic cone. Everything looked hot when a Falcon porn star did it.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | January 30, 2019 11:19 PM |
That’s because they pick the trashiest guys to do gay porn nowadays…nothing but tattoo trash.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | January 30, 2019 11:23 PM |
I like trashy tops but all american bottoms.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | January 30, 2019 11:26 PM |
[quote]Supposedly Chad was a bottom is his personal life and not at all like his on-screen persona. So who knows if it's true.
No "supposedly" about it - there's a really wonderful article/interview with someone who knew him well - he was a nanny in real life, and very gentle and quiet and sweet. It was the porn studio, whichever one he went with first, that thought his look wouldn't work as a bottom and he'd have to learn to top. I couldn't find the article, but did find this. In the article, his friend confirms that he is dead, but he was surrounded by friends, not "in obscurity."
by Anonymous | reply 120 | January 30, 2019 11:27 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 121 | January 30, 2019 11:28 PM |
I thought I read that Kevin Williams hated filming that lazy susan scene, felt it crossed some lines... and that was why it was banned.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | January 30, 2019 11:40 PM |
What did he think was gonna happen when he got strapped in?
by Anonymous | reply 123 | January 30, 2019 11:46 PM |
Where did the rumor come from that it was "banned"?
by Anonymous | reply 124 | January 30, 2019 11:51 PM |
It was banned in certain states of the US, because it featured, back then, controversial sex practices.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | January 30, 2019 11:52 PM |
R124, Yes, R125 is correct. I posted an article about that scene up at R45. I know we can watch it now, if we want (but I don't want to).
by Anonymous | reply 126 | January 30, 2019 11:58 PM |
Chuck Holmes could be very insistent on getting what he wanted for a scene, even if the performer didn't want to do it. He'd just keep insisting on and offer to pay more until they gave in. Jim Bentley talked about that in his extended interview in the extras on the Seed Money doc. Holmes wanted Jim to fuck himself with corn cob and he got his way.
Chuck might have offered Kevin more to have him to continue even though it wasn't a pleasant experience for him.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | January 31, 2019 12:00 AM |
Supposedly Chad Douglas wasn't just an unenthusiastic top, but he thought other men's holes were gross and had to have his own hole played with before he could fuck.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | January 31, 2019 12:03 AM |
R128, Chad Douglas (ugh, such a boner-killer turn-off for me) also hated twinks. He preferred grown men with hairy chests. But they always paired him with twinks.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | January 31, 2019 12:05 AM |
I have to wonder why Chad Douglas kept doing movies if he hated to be typcast as total top? Was the pay that good? Obviously not good enough for him to stop complaining.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | January 31, 2019 12:07 AM |
[quote]Holmes wanted Jim to fuck himself with corn cob and he got his way.
Corn? When did I fuck corn?
by Anonymous | reply 131 | January 31, 2019 12:07 AM |
One interesting thing that many younger people don't know is just how outre some of the porn from earlier eras could be. Now, of course, the Internet allows people to indulge their specific kinks. But the late Marilyn Chambers (the Ivory Snow cover girl turned porn star) appeared in 'Beyond de Sade' and 'Never a Tender Moment'. The second film was filmed at the notorious Mitchell Brothers theater in San Francisco, and has Marilyn performing on-stage, and being subjected to anal beads and fisting. I saw a brief clip, and was horrified. I felt terribly for her. I don't like rough sex at all. I'm a gentle lover.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | January 31, 2019 12:11 AM |
So many interesting contributions. Keep them coming guys.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | January 31, 2019 12:22 AM |
R132 Marilyn's live shows, especially at the Mitchell's theater were really wild. She'd use the really big anal beads (balls really) and let customers eat and finger her pussy and ass. I knew a female porn star/stripper (now deceased) that said she and everyone else hated going on after her wild shows, because they couldn't top it (or even wanted to try to) and most had given most of their money to Marilyn already. She was big into cocaine at the time, which I guess helped her to be totally uninhibited and her suitcase pimp Chuck Traynor encouraged her to be as raunchy as possible during her shows to maximize profits. She was arrested a few times for her shows and I think the news of it even made it to the newspapers nationwide once.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | January 31, 2019 12:25 AM |
R134, Thanks. I've tried to (gently) explain how porn was like in the 70s to some younger people, and I can see that I'm not getting through to them. You really had to search it out, and you couldn't buy porn films at all in my city (Midwest). No porn theaters, either, so there would always being showings of 'Rosemary's Baby' and 'A Clockwork Orange' just so someone could watch a scene with bare breasts. A very different time for many of us. I guess it wouldn't be too different on the West or East coasts, but in the middle of the country, there's a world of difference.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | January 31, 2019 12:37 AM |
R119, I would watch a porn called Trashy Tops and All American Bottoms!
by Anonymous | reply 136 | January 31, 2019 12:38 AM |
I went to a live sex show once and it was the hottest fucking thing.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | January 31, 2019 12:42 AM |
A former kid (maybe the only kid) that Chad Johnson was a nanny for posted a photo of him and Chad back when Chad was his 'manny'. He knew Chad was a former gay pornstar.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | January 31, 2019 12:43 AM |
Douglas or Johnson?
by Anonymous | reply 139 | January 31, 2019 12:46 AM |
Yes, sorry it was Chad Douglas. Another correction to my above post. The kid was a girl named Gabi Sifer. Chad wasn't a 'nanny' per se. He just babysat her occasionally. I gather he was a friend of the family. I think this was in Puerto Rico.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | January 31, 2019 12:53 AM |
I loved Chad Douglas vs. Kevin Williams. That was a great scene. In the scene he keeps injecting this small white tube of stuff up Kevin's butt and Kevin asks him are you giving me another one? I don't think it was lube. So I had no idea what was going on, but it was hot.
Another Kevin Wiles is a another Falcon Blond Bottom Boy that was everything, but a little nit nastier than Kevin Williams.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | January 31, 2019 12:58 AM |
Funny that his real name was Martin Cox. Guess his dad must've been Caucasian and his mother Puerto Rican.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | January 31, 2019 12:59 AM |
[QUOTE]Chi Chi is now directing bareback scenes
It's a M-I-R-A-C-L-E that any of the studs on a Chi Chi set can maintain a hard-on. Just having to look at that creature would make most men go limp.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | January 31, 2019 1:00 AM |
R141
Wiles was also about half as appealing. He looked like your average blond 'boi'.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | January 31, 2019 1:01 AM |
R141 I think it's so hot when he said that too.
I'm sure it just must have been lube. I'm sure thats how it came packaged back in the day.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | January 31, 2019 1:02 AM |
They were lube and a spermicide. Meant for women's birth control.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | January 31, 2019 1:05 AM |
R138 Yes I've seen that pic ages ago. The article was really interested to read.
I'm sure I read somewhere that Kevin was an estate agent in California. He then moved up to Seattle or somewhere north of California.
Does anyone have a recent sighting of Kevin or an update?
by Anonymous | reply 147 | January 31, 2019 1:05 AM |
R147 None of his facebook accounts list his location. He used to be in real estate but his license in California expired several years ago.
Here's a shirtless pic from December 2016.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | January 31, 2019 1:34 AM |
He's developed "asshole trump-voter face". Weird.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | January 31, 2019 1:45 AM |
He looked mighty fine in a jockstrap.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | January 31, 2019 6:05 AM |
What's his real name?
by Anonymous | reply 151 | January 31, 2019 6:19 AM |
Hey, I'm going to stick up for Kevin Wiles. He always struck me as more of an ingenue than Kevin Williams, and there's nothing wrong with that. He also seemed sincerely clueless. If he wasn't, he acted well, imo.
Actually, back in the day I thought Kevin Wiles and Kevin Williams were the same person, with similar appearances and performers using similar sounding names for different studios or films.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | January 31, 2019 6:20 AM |
I definitely preferred Kevin Wiles. He had more personality, and he really seemed to be turned on by sex and by cock. Kevin Williams always felt like he was just doing it because he couldn't think of anything else to do that day.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | January 31, 2019 7:02 AM |
R151 Kevin's real name is readily available via Google.
I found Kevin Wiles and Kevin Williams's films both very good. I really liked Casey Jordan's early performances too. I found those 3 very hot.
I was sad to see Casey Jordan had passed away recently.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | January 31, 2019 7:43 AM |
Kevin Williams was such a beautiful man. Even when he retired and then came back for a few scenes he was still hotter than most of the younger guys that fucked him...
I wonder how old he is now?
by Anonymous | reply 155 | January 31, 2019 11:21 AM |
And then there was Corey Monroe.
That guy at R148 is quite attractive.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | January 31, 2019 12:10 PM |
R157
Not a good picture of him. Anyone can have a bad day. He looked pretty good (to me) in his porn back in the day.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | January 31, 2019 1:04 PM |
R155 I think he's 53 now. Still very handsome from the latest pics posted.
Is he still with us?
by Anonymous | reply 159 | January 31, 2019 1:46 PM |
R148 is that recent picture?
by Anonymous | reply 160 | January 31, 2019 1:51 PM |
I wish he'd done more films! He stayed too scarce IMO. When you're as beautiful as KW, immortalize that shit!
by Anonymous | reply 161 | January 31, 2019 2:01 PM |
Any more films, and he might not still be with us.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | January 31, 2019 2:17 PM |
He was cute back in the day, but that dyed blond hairless body look was never even remotely sexy to me.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | January 31, 2019 2:19 PM |
Move aside, R163!
by Anonymous | reply 164 | January 31, 2019 2:27 PM |
I haven't read all the entries, but what movie had that delicious scene when the gorgeous Jim Pulver sucked him off? I wish I had now the money Ispent renting that movie many times now.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | January 31, 2019 3:09 PM |
At the time they believed whatever was injected into Kevin in Wildest Dreams was a protection for AIDs. I believe it was used maybe once more in Splas Shots 2 by another twink fucked by Chad. I think the crime was matter debubked.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | January 31, 2019 4:43 PM |
Creme.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | January 31, 2019 4:43 PM |
Have any of you heard of a Czech bdsm called gaywargames? The bottom gets knocked around quite a bit and I heard some similar sites the safe word was ignored. Some of the scenes you couldn’t watch because they were under investigation. I canceled my membership and recently tried to see what was going with the site and it doesn’t exist anymore. Something about bad billing practices.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | January 31, 2019 4:49 PM |
Pro Trump? I hope he is dead.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | January 31, 2019 4:55 PM |
He might just be simpleminded, in which case he deserves our pity.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | January 31, 2019 5:03 PM |
He is an overeated basic whore with bleach hair! next!
by Anonymous | reply 171 | January 31, 2019 5:48 PM |
As someone above said, that "injection" was some type of OTC HIV prevention. I don't remember the name of it.
And I don't know why everyone is SO obsessed with that lazy susan scene. By today's standards, it's quite tame and harmless. They also use that HIV prevention tube in the lazy susan scene.
"Ooh, look! He's on a lazy susan! Ooh, look! They're putting a dildo in his butt! Ooh, look! He's getting DPed!!"
Christ, that movie is from 1987, 32 YEARS ago. Hardly controversial in 2019.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | January 31, 2019 6:35 PM |
I think it was Nonoxynol-9 that they used to try to prevent HIV. They thought back then that since it killed sperm and killed HIV in test tubes it would prevent transmission during sex. Of course it turned out not to be very affective at all.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | January 31, 2019 6:49 PM |
Corey Monroe — there’s a name I hadn’t heard in a long time, R156! He was always so enthusiastically nasty! Anyone know whatever happened to him?
by Anonymous | reply 174 | January 31, 2019 6:55 PM |
Corey Monroe made a brief comeback in the early 2000 for a bareback movie or two. I haven't seen them, but most people that did commented that he looked rough.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | January 31, 2019 7:04 PM |
Keith Webb
by Anonymous | reply 176 | January 31, 2019 7:14 PM |
Did he ever escort? If so, I'm pissed that I wasn't born 10 years earlier in order to take advantage of him in his prime.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | January 31, 2019 7:51 PM |
On Pornhub, r165 cont'd. Highly recommended,
by Anonymous | reply 179 | January 31, 2019 8:39 PM |
I loved his scene in the 90s with Tom Chase.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | January 31, 2019 8:41 PM |
R178 Yes he did at one point
by Anonymous | reply 181 | January 31, 2019 9:08 PM |
R141 and R145 I believe what was injected, albeit I could be wrong, was a substance that would prevent the spread of HIV. Someone told me that or I read it somewhere. It's in other movies in that era too.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | January 31, 2019 9:16 PM |
Wasn't it AZT infused lube they were packing those boys butts with back in those days? I read long ago they'd literally pump a quart of the stuff up their butts. I remember the scene in Grease Guns when Chip Daniels was being pummeled standing up bent over under a car lift in a garage and at one point huge globs of lube started pouring out of his butt when the top pulled out.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | January 31, 2019 9:25 PM |
I thought they wore condoms in Grease Guns??
by Anonymous | reply 184 | January 31, 2019 9:31 PM |
I always preferred Kevin Wiles. I hear he's still alive, too. Another shocker with the amount of cock he took.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | January 31, 2019 9:42 PM |
[quote] I thought they wore condoms in Grease Guns??
They probably did, but condoms break you know. But they still packed that boy's arse up with a gallon of lube.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | January 31, 2019 9:54 PM |
R185 Kevin Wiles is still alive and he’s in Portland, Oregon. He hit me up on BBRT last year. He looked rough...not well preserved. He seemed simple minded too.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | January 31, 2019 11:19 PM |
I didn't recognize the name "Kevin Wiles" at all... but I do recognize the face. You guys should include more pics:
by Anonymous | reply 188 | January 31, 2019 11:42 PM |
Corey Monroe never turned me on because he always struck me as a bit … "special". And that in itself was a turn off.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | January 31, 2019 11:43 PM |
Kevin Wiles could never seem to be consistent with the blonde hair coloring he would buy from the bargain bin, which was a little off-putting since the color would vary so.
by Anonymous | reply 190 | January 31, 2019 11:53 PM |
I like Kevin Wiles because he looked stupid and just couldn't get enough cock.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | February 1, 2019 12:02 AM |
He looks like my nephew...just figured that out!
by Anonymous | reply 193 | February 1, 2019 12:15 AM |
R168, it was bad balling practices.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | February 1, 2019 12:24 AM |
R192, I posted this in some other thread, but Chris Williams (who I really liked) led a tragic life. I thought he was incredibly attractive, and he was very enthusiastic. He was a real person after all (as they all are). I don't think I'm ever really hateful to any of them for doing what they do. I certainly couldn't (no one would pay me, anyway), but I think most of them are somewhat damaged people, trying to figure out how to get through life. I'm glad that 'Kevin' is still with us. I wish 'Chris' still was, too.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | February 1, 2019 12:31 AM |
everybody tried to get in on the traffic cone schtick.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | February 1, 2019 12:32 AM |
The best traffic cone incident was in Flashpoint surely?
by Anonymous | reply 197 | February 1, 2019 12:35 AM |
I can't even take an 8x6 dildo without pain. I can't imagine a traffic cone.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | February 1, 2019 12:37 AM |
Kevin Wiles in Big Guns versus Chad Douglas is still one of my "go to" scenes. When Chad lets his robe fall open as he writes the check and then again when he is plowing Kevin and Kevin tells him to slow down is just too much. So fucking hot. I also loved when Chad fucked his nephew in Spring Break and he just flops his cock out on the table. The Spring Break movie was Falcon at it's best.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | February 1, 2019 12:39 AM |
There was one bottom I liked but I can't find/remember his name. He had light brown, almost blond hair, it was pretty long and curly. He was pretty slim. He was actually fucked by Chad Douglas by the pool on a lounge chair. Anyone?
by Anonymous | reply 200 | February 1, 2019 12:39 AM |
RIP, Chris Williams. Life definitely fucked him over. And he definitely had that blonde bottom boy look that seemed to be everywhere back then.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | February 1, 2019 12:41 AM |
R200, I think that was Leigh Erickson in 'Giant Splash Shots 2'. I might be wrong, though.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | February 1, 2019 12:51 AM |
Where’s his Facebook?
by Anonymous | reply 204 | February 1, 2019 12:53 AM |
can't we even have a porn thread without the Trump presence?
by Anonymous | reply 206 | February 1, 2019 12:58 AM |
80s porn is the best porn
by Anonymous | reply 207 | February 1, 2019 12:59 AM |
Pretty!
by Anonymous | reply 209 | February 1, 2019 1:03 AM |
That Kevin Williams /Jim Pulver flick was Out of Bounds.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | February 1, 2019 2:15 AM |
Didnt he rescue him after he was knocked off his cycle?
by Anonymous | reply 211 | February 1, 2019 2:21 AM |
He looks old for 53.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | February 1, 2019 2:32 AM |
Kevin Wiles in his 3-way scenes in SPRING BREAK—> unbelievably hot.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | February 1, 2019 2:56 AM |
R211, Love a "meet cute" porno!
by Anonymous | reply 214 | February 1, 2019 3:14 AM |
I'd like to see how Kevin Wiles has aged.
by Anonymous | reply 215 | February 1, 2019 4:47 AM |
I want to see how Lane Fuller aged! Where art thou, Lane!?
by Anonymous | reply 216 | February 1, 2019 4:51 AM |
R215
He has not aged well. He’s thin and had most of his hair, but his face kinda looks chewed up and white trashy.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | February 1, 2019 5:21 AM |
Was it SPRING BREAK or SPRING TRAINING that had the enema scene edited out of most copies, even at the the time of the initial release? It was hot and is still around on some of the tube sites.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | February 1, 2019 7:39 AM |
Is Lane Fuller still with us, or has he passed?
by Anonymous | reply 219 | February 1, 2019 7:50 AM |
He's living in the fast lane. When he dated Williams, he was always singing, "Kevin, I'm in Kevin..."
by Anonymous | reply 220 | February 1, 2019 8:17 AM |
"Cheek to Cheek," indeed
by Anonymous | reply 221 | February 1, 2019 8:21 AM |
Kevin never kept his cheeks together.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | February 1, 2019 8:23 AM |
The opening scene of Spring Break. Fuck being used by two frat boys sounds like heaven to me
by Anonymous | reply 223 | February 1, 2019 8:39 AM |
Call me crazy, but I still prefer these classic Falcon releases over what's being released these days.
by Anonymous | reply 224 | February 1, 2019 9:34 AM |
I agree with you R224
An old flatmate of mine used to watch the old Falcoln movies as if they were a film. From start to finish. Most people would just skip to the scene they wanted, but he'd watch it from start to end.
People have the attention span of a gnat now. Full length movies seem to be a thing of the past. I presume production costs prohibit them nowadays.
by Anonymous | reply 225 | February 1, 2019 10:10 AM |
Well, call me crazy too! They had FACES then.
by Anonymous | reply 226 | February 1, 2019 10:26 AM |
Yes, some porn in the late 70s/early 80s had more of a storyline and had more elaborate sets.
There was more money for those things back then, especially after home video started taking off.
Now, everyone wants more instant gratification.
by Anonymous | reply 227 | February 1, 2019 10:59 AM |
What movie is this from?that is a hot image.
by Anonymous | reply 228 | February 1, 2019 11:04 AM |
I'm going to agree with the person above and his thoughts on Kevin in film. Kevin was beautiful and a great bottom, but his characters always seemed to be this innocent babe in the woods type who would just fall into sex. "Oh yeah, I've got nothing else to do so you can fuck me." Kevin Wiles, on the other hand, seemed like some insatiable guy who was always on the prowl to get dick. He knew he was teasing those two frat boys into fucking him and he knew what he was going to get when he went to collect that paper money from Chad Douglas. I guess I just identified more with the Kevin Wiles type.
by Anonymous | reply 229 | February 1, 2019 1:11 PM |
R228 I think that's Betrayed as you can see Jeff Palmer in the window watching Kevin dildo himself.
by Anonymous | reply 230 | February 1, 2019 3:20 PM |
R229 Do you think that was more down to the storyline of the various porn movies? ie Kevin Wiles was in movies where the storyline gave his charecter more physical activity. Whereas Kevin Williams's scripts were more passive?
by Anonymous | reply 231 | February 1, 2019 3:23 PM |
KW barely made any noise when he was fucked. He was almost mute.
by Anonymous | reply 232 | February 1, 2019 3:34 PM |
Leigh Erickson at R208 was gorgeous. He had the look of a classy European model.
by Anonymous | reply 233 | February 1, 2019 4:11 PM |
I think the name Leigh Erikson indicated a more European look for him.
by Anonymous | reply 234 | February 1, 2019 4:21 PM |
The old, old Falcon stuff was shot on film which required much more thought, although like everyone else they began with 8 mm loop.
by Anonymous | reply 235 | February 1, 2019 4:42 PM |
Oh so it was technology that had more to do with the format then R235 was it?
by Anonymous | reply 236 | February 1, 2019 4:52 PM |
I still hate him for getting a piece of Chad Douglas (and I didn't!)
by Anonymous | reply 237 | February 1, 2019 5:37 PM |
In the audition film, Kevin asks a guy to fuck him and it's done with innocence. William Higgins said that scene was typical of him because he was very manipulative and learned how to use his appeal early on.
by Anonymous | reply 238 | February 1, 2019 5:50 PM |
If you've got it, flaunt it I guess.
It's a shame Falcoln don't do one big feature film a year. Like a newer version of The Other Side of Aspen or a Spokes. That would get sales, I'm sure.
by Anonymous | reply 239 | February 1, 2019 7:15 PM |
Remakes of the old biggies these days would probably be terrible, at least to any of us who loved the offerings from yesteryear. None of the directors today know what the fuck they're doing, and neither do the camera people. And the performers today are pretty much tatted up trash, not the beautiful fresh faced studs of 30 years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 240 | February 1, 2019 7:33 PM |
The 80s were the Golden Age of Porn
by Anonymous | reply 241 | February 1, 2019 7:37 PM |
Agreed. Everything started to go downhill fast around 92-93. By 95 Falcon was worthless.
by Anonymous | reply 242 | February 1, 2019 7:39 PM |
I wonder how much money Chuck Holmes made from Falcon? Didn't he donate quite a bit of money to gay charities?
by Anonymous | reply 243 | February 1, 2019 7:41 PM |
r242. IMHO in the aughts they still released some great movies like the two-parter Out of Athens.
by Anonymous | reply 244 | February 1, 2019 7:48 PM |
Most young people like tattoos r240. They get tattoos to appeal to their own age cohorts, not ancient unfuckable fossils like you.
by Anonymous | reply 245 | February 1, 2019 8:10 PM |
No, they get tattoos because they stupidly think it makes them look more masculine.
by Anonymous | reply 246 | February 1, 2019 8:14 PM |
R245 Young person here and lol no
by Anonymous | reply 247 | February 1, 2019 8:36 PM |
Makes them think they are interesting without much effort. I don’t mind tattoos just so they are not overdone and not at the wrong place. The chest and God forbid the ass is a huge turnoff. When I see someone with a tattoo sleeve I think what a tool. Now even women are starting to get them.
by Anonymous | reply 248 | February 1, 2019 9:05 PM |
Besides good looks what makes a good bottom is the facial expressions. Kevin Williams looked like a innocent who liked to be fucked or liked to give pleasure like he said in his porn interview. Kevin Wiles was a cute kid but it was the same scene over and over. The only real moment I remember was when Jeff Stryker put his hands down Kevin’s pants.
by Anonymous | reply 249 | February 1, 2019 9:17 PM |
R245 = Triggered tattoo trash
by Anonymous | reply 250 | February 1, 2019 9:59 PM |
“Nevermind that bodily fluids in the mouth, eyes, or other orifices is just as dangerous as cum in the ass.”
Since when? Link?
by Anonymous | reply 251 | February 1, 2019 10:10 PM |
God I hope that’s not true. Cum in the mouth in very common in today’s porn.
by Anonymous | reply 252 | February 1, 2019 10:19 PM |
I have a friend who claims he contracted HIV from swallowing loads. Not sure if I believe him, but that's what he claims.
by Anonymous | reply 253 | February 1, 2019 10:21 PM |
Well if his gums were not healthy or he took a load right after a vigorous tooth brushing it's entirely possible he did. All it takes is a microscopic spot where the virus can get access to the blood stream.
by Anonymous | reply 254 | February 1, 2019 10:24 PM |
Wooo. Ain’t you smart ? Seriously.
by Anonymous | reply 255 | February 1, 2019 10:27 PM |
Get on Prep, chug all the loads you wish
R253 you friend was taking loads up his ass. Did you star in an 80s sitcom?
by Anonymous | reply 256 | February 1, 2019 10:29 PM |
I suspect he was taking loads up his ass as well. The speed at which he changed all of his online profiles to "Bareback only!" after his diagnosis was alarming, which made me think he'd been doing that all along.
by Anonymous | reply 257 | February 1, 2019 11:07 PM |
I was going to suggest a remake of Out of Athens. If budget was tight I'm sure they could do an Out of Seattle or Washington or somewhere.
As for casting it. Surely there are enough fit and tatooless jocks out there in porno land?
by Anonymous | reply 258 | February 2, 2019 12:03 AM |
The 2010 gay porn demands tattoos
by Anonymous | reply 259 | February 2, 2019 12:25 AM |
Who's paying for tat porn?
by Anonymous | reply 260 | February 2, 2019 12:53 AM |
One of the worst tattoos is rather small. I can’t remember the name of the porn star ( something Fanco ? ) extremely slutty with the wor fuck on one side of his ass and me on the other. A complete turnoff So stupid because it was unneeded that is the whole purpose of presenting ass.
by Anonymous | reply 262 | February 2, 2019 7:47 AM |
I alays felt that Wiles and Williams played two different style of bottoms.
Wiles playing the more cheeky situations, with Williams playing the innocent boy being seduced.
by Anonymous | reply 263 | February 2, 2019 7:49 AM |
Method actors
by Anonymous | reply 264 | February 2, 2019 7:51 AM |
R263 - they were both great. Joey Stefano rounded out the "best of the 1980's bottoms" list. Joey is neck and neck with Kevin when it comes to the most famous during that golden era; Joey probably has better name recognition due to his untimely death.
by Anonymous | reply 265 | February 2, 2019 7:55 AM |
The scene with Poor Mike Henson seducing Williams is classic. Remember Henson started out as slutty bottom. So slutty he was about the only one who got fucked by Wiles.
by Anonymous | reply 266 | February 2, 2019 7:56 AM |
During that time we had few great bottoms. Maybe because of AIDs or because they wanted to be like Stryker who was commonly known as top paid and he hardly ever sucked dick and never fucked. Luckily with CF, Rapid and Mycles/Mojo changed things. Even today at SC some models get special treatment and don’t have to bottom.
by Anonymous | reply 267 | February 2, 2019 8:03 AM |
Who's CF R267?
by Anonymous | reply 268 | February 2, 2019 8:04 AM |
Both Mike and Steve (Henson) were named after the immensely popular and sexy Bill Henson (one of the most gorgeous porn men of all time). All 3 Hensons were primarily bottoms on film. Bill was so damn hot that he was featured on the cover of every one of his "mainstream" porn movies (Sailor in the Wild, A Matter of Size, The New Breed and Winner Takes All). The only other porn that exists for him (that I am aware of) is a screen test that includes other models.
by Anonymous | reply 269 | February 2, 2019 8:06 AM |
Corbin Fisher everyone got fucked except maybe one models. Not talking about the many silos.
by Anonymous | reply 270 | February 2, 2019 8:06 AM |
I always enjoyed Jim Bentley's performances from that era. He was always consistant I thought.
by Anonymous | reply 271 | February 2, 2019 8:29 AM |
I always thought of Jim Bentley as strictly a top and I couldn't believe when I saw him bottom in a movie (which he's done in several).
I thought it was a one-time thing, eventually being proven wrong.
Other than KW, I think JB is the only blonde porn star on whom I really had a crush.
by Anonymous | reply 272 | February 2, 2019 9:04 AM |
JB did a few bottoming scenes early in Nova”s Heros and twice in Making it Huge by classic models like Jetemy Scott and Ryder Hansen. I do remember reading that considered himself a top in real life.
by Anonymous | reply 273 | February 2, 2019 9:30 AM |
I do think that is one of Falcoln's strong suits. It's porn heritage. Sure there are studios making high quality porn, but that back catalogue of work is testament to Falcoln leading the industry back then.
I think that quality element, helps make the porn stars of those movies more endearing. Some have passed away, some have grown old and moved to pastures new. But their names will be with us in porn history, unlike some of the more recent 'porn stars'.
by Anonymous | reply 274 | February 2, 2019 9:50 AM |
Jim Bentley gets fucked by that Edward James Olmos looking guy with the big dick that fucked Kevin Wiles a few times in Spokes II. I always thought he was a cocky top.
by Anonymous | reply 275 | February 2, 2019 1:24 PM |
Casey Jordan was my favorite 80s bottom, no contest.
(I was so disappointed at his comeback in the 90s though - he fucked up his face bad.)
by Anonymous | reply 276 | February 2, 2019 1:35 PM |
R276 Yes, I was a big fan too. I think his scenes stand the test of time and are hot.
Its so sad him dying last year. He seemed very vocal politically.
by Anonymous | reply 277 | February 2, 2019 2:34 PM |
I forgot about Casey Jordan. There is this scene were he seduces his brother's friend while wearing a cowboy hat that was pretty hot. Another classic porn bottom is Brad Mitchell. His scene in Chad Douglas' pickup truck was excellent.
by Anonymous | reply 278 | February 2, 2019 3:03 PM |
All this crap about applying Pauline Kael standards to his acting is just idiotic. These are people that jerk off to John Cassevetes movies.
by Anonymous | reply 279 | February 2, 2019 3:06 PM |
Brad Mitchell was very convincing as the car mechanic in that film. Did he make many films?
by Anonymous | reply 280 | February 2, 2019 3:15 PM |
The scene is very hot, but it's a funny scene. Chad Douglas just comes out of the bathroom and they just look at each other and next thing you know Brad is blowing Chad.
by Anonymous | reply 281 | February 2, 2019 3:18 PM |
Casey Jordan riding Robert Harris like a butter churn in “Perfect Summer” is one of the hottest porn scenes ever.
by Anonymous | reply 282 | February 2, 2019 3:21 PM |
The asses were so white back then.
by Anonymous | reply 283 | February 2, 2019 3:26 PM |
Casey Jordan died back in October. Found dead in his bathtub after apparently drowning. I have to assume it was a situation like Whitney Houston, drugged to unconsciousness and sunk below the water.
He was handsome early on, but then something happened with his mouth. I suspect he had fillers injected and way too much. It made his whole mouth distorted.
Here's an article about his death. Looks like his lips recovered a little but not all the way.
by Anonymous | reply 284 | February 2, 2019 3:30 PM |
R282 That is such a hot movie.
R284 I read that last year. It was so sad. It sounded like he had a great life outside of porn too.
I wonder if Kevin Williams did too?
by Anonymous | reply 285 | February 2, 2019 3:50 PM |
What was the last major movie that Falcon realeased?
by Anonymous | reply 286 | February 2, 2019 4:12 PM |
The fact that Kevin Williams became a Trumpster is just the biggest turnoff. Ugh.
by Anonymous | reply 287 | February 2, 2019 4:20 PM |
I used to love the trailers at the end of the movies advertising the latest releases.
by Anonymous | reply 288 | February 2, 2019 4:34 PM |
Kevin Williams was quite a dish.
by Anonymous | reply 290 | February 2, 2019 4:42 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 291 | February 2, 2019 4:44 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 292 | February 2, 2019 4:49 PM |
R292, I love Chad Douglas.
by Anonymous | reply 293 | February 2, 2019 4:51 PM |
That is such a specific fetish. Blond hair, ultra bright white asses, and white socks.
by Anonymous | reply 294 | February 2, 2019 4:52 PM |
Gross, R292. I will NEVER understand his popularity. A face that needs three bags over it, in case to break. Ugh. So disgusting.
A complete dick-wilter, I can't watch any scene he's in. Such a complete turn-off. Frankenstein's monster is sexier.
by Anonymous | reply 295 | February 2, 2019 4:53 PM |
It was amazing the extent they went to in those days with such high quality promotional photos thatbyou guys have posted. Really beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 296 | February 2, 2019 4:57 PM |
I once met “Kevin” in Honolulu - my (female) roommate was a friend of his. When she asked him if he had been tested for HIV, he responded with a blank look - he had never heard of AIDS and had no idea he was at risk.
This was in 1989.
It’s not at all surprising that he’s a Trump supporter - he’s always been as dumb as a box of hair.
by Anonymous | reply 297 | February 2, 2019 5:00 PM |
Fun thread, keep the info coming! Always interesting to hear about the folks from when I first discovered pron — like Williams, Wiles, Jordan and Corey Monroe (any more stories on him?)
by Anonymous | reply 298 | February 2, 2019 5:09 PM |
I totally understand that people don't like another persons politics, but is that really such a bone killer when looking at their vintage porn output?
by Anonymous | reply 299 | February 2, 2019 5:09 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 300 | February 2, 2019 5:11 PM |
R300 great post of Chad Knight! He was gorgous. I read somewhere that he was married with family and his wife let him do gay porn, as she felt he wasn't cheating on her with another woman. Could all be a load of bollox, obviously.
by Anonymous | reply 301 | February 2, 2019 5:16 PM |
A big Sure, Jan for R297
by Anonymous | reply 302 | February 2, 2019 5:29 PM |
I love the stories of Kevin Williams becoming a super stalker of Jon Vincent.
by Anonymous | reply 303 | February 2, 2019 5:33 PM |
Someone start a Chad Knight appreciation thread.
by Anonymous | reply 304 | February 2, 2019 5:35 PM |
Trumplandia is full of self loathing homo homophobe repentant ex whores. Their his base.
by Anonymous | reply 305 | February 2, 2019 5:39 PM |
Chad Douglas may not have been classically handsome, but you don't have to be to still be hot as fire, as he was. He exuded a very masculine presence in his scenes.
by Anonymous | reply 306 | February 2, 2019 6:07 PM |
Chad was the daddy, to the blonde boys who were the twinks.
I think he put in a great performance as a daddy. I'm surprised to hear that he was a bottom in real life though.
Did Williams stalk Jon Vincent then R303 ?
by Anonymous | reply 307 | February 2, 2019 6:55 PM |
R301, I also read, in several places, that Chad Knight was married with kids. He wanted to be an EMT, but apparently he was too petite to qualify. I read a story about someone noticing him as a restaurant manager (Olive Garden, I believe) and he was embarrassed to be recognized. He was a terrific performer. We share the same birthday, although I'm older.
by Anonymous | reply 308 | February 2, 2019 6:56 PM |
Jim Bentley once talked of being in some restaurant with his mother and "some old queen" as he put it, spotted him and came over going on about him being Jim Bentley right in front of his mother (who knew nothing about his porn work).
by Anonymous | reply 309 | February 2, 2019 6:59 PM |
There was another innocent looking blonde twink about the same time as Kevin. He did lesser videos from Vivid studios like Rites of Spring. I can’t find his name
by Anonymous | reply 310 | February 2, 2019 7:06 PM |
[quote]I love the stories of Kevin Williams becoming a super stalker of Jon Vincent.
I've never heard these stories. Anyone have the info?
by Anonymous | reply 311 | February 2, 2019 7:08 PM |
Whats an EMT R308 ?
by Anonymous | reply 312 | February 2, 2019 7:11 PM |
Extremely Moronic Twerp, Rose. Chad looks tre gay in R308's photo.
by Anonymous | reply 313 | February 2, 2019 7:20 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 314 | February 2, 2019 7:20 PM |
Kevin was always too "pretty" for me in his early years - almost androgynous. He looked far sexier during his comeback (more mature, muscular and masculine), but by then he displayed next to zero heat in his scenes. Zero. Phoning it in would be a very generous description.
by Anonymous | reply 315 | February 2, 2019 7:21 PM |
R313, An emergency medical technician. Someone on the life squad.
by Anonymous | reply 316 | February 2, 2019 7:24 PM |
Jon Vincent once said his favorite scene partner was Danny Sommers, and it showed in their scenes together. You could feel the heat between those two. Sommers was always in major heat for Vincent when they worked together.
by Anonymous | reply 317 | February 2, 2019 7:30 PM |
I liked Chad Douglas just fine. Lets face it nearly all his scenes are in the top ten best in porn. I just would have liked to have seen him without the mustache. Anyone who enjoys the older porn should read Jon Vincent's book. I couldn't put it down. A lot of it was depressing but it was interesting as hell.
by Anonymous | reply 318 | February 2, 2019 7:37 PM |
R317, Danny Sommers visited DL and posted on this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 319 | February 2, 2019 7:37 PM |
WEHT Kurt Marshall? I think he only made a couple of films for Falcon, but they were during gay porn's golden years, so he became a big star at the time. I think he was even David Geffen's boytoy at the time. I'm sure he got passed around by all the members of the Velvet Mafia back then.
by Anonymous | reply 320 | February 2, 2019 7:42 PM |
Kurt Marshall (birth name James Allen Rideout, Jr.; November 13, 1965 – October 10, 1988 did of AIDS . He was 22 yr.
by Anonymous | reply 321 | February 2, 2019 7:47 PM |
Chad was bossy without a trace of warmth and I as a top I loved it. Look at his scene with Kevin he leaves before Kevin gets off.
by Anonymous | reply 322 | February 2, 2019 7:48 PM |
Kurt Marshall (birth name James Allen Rideout, Jr.;[1 November 13, 1965 – October 10, 1988 Died of AIDS. He was 22yr.
by Anonymous | reply 323 | February 2, 2019 7:48 PM |
Kurt Marshall is still remembered after all these years, even though he only appeared in 4 films. One of the most beautiful men ever filmed. After he was diagnosed with HIV, he gave a really touching interview (Manshots, I believe) about trying to find love, and to take care of yourself and the people you love.
by Anonymous | reply 324 | February 2, 2019 7:50 PM |
Kurt was the most beautiful porn star of all time
Danny Summers must have been fucked 100 times on film with always the same look on his face that he would rather be rotating his tires.
by Anonymous | reply 325 | February 2, 2019 7:53 PM |
Chad Douglas was not my type at all except for his dick, but guess I was surprised he was a bottom in his real life as I have very rarely seen an adult film performer that was better at topping than him...........
.Also I was surprised to see he died in 1999 of aids. The cocktail that is keeping everybody alive came out around 1995, you would have thought if he made it that far chances would have been good he was still alive/
by Anonymous | reply 326 | February 2, 2019 7:58 PM |
As a top myself, I always loved watching Chad's scenes - the man really knew hard to throw a hard fuck. Watching his work is like a 101 level collegiate course in being a power top; I highly recommend that all men take note. It was amusing to read a few years ago that he was basically a total bottom in his personal life. I heard that he was so grossed out by an anal that he required a "stunt hand" to finger his bottom's holes for a scene. Crazy.
by Anonymous | reply 327 | February 2, 2019 8:05 PM |
Sorry, anal=anus.
by Anonymous | reply 328 | February 2, 2019 8:11 PM |
shut up and suck
by Anonymous | reply 329 | February 2, 2019 8:15 PM |
Back to Williams ,he looks like any cute-ish bottom at deplorable town usa with bleached hair and butthole. Not interesting enough to be called beautiful, model or act. Like they say nowaydays, she basic!! And she still looks basic and like she needs to sleep for a hundred hours straight.
by Anonymous | reply 330 | February 2, 2019 8:29 PM |
[quote] great post of Chad Knight! I read somewhere that he was married with family and his wife let him do gay porn, as she felt he wasn't cheating on her with another woman. Could all be a load of bollox, obviously.
Ripped from the headlines!
by Anonymous | reply 331 | February 2, 2019 8:31 PM |
Maybe Kevin had bleached hair but it didn’t look cheap or fake.
by Anonymous | reply 332 | February 2, 2019 8:33 PM |
Doesn't sound believable to me.
by Anonymous | reply 333 | February 2, 2019 8:42 PM |
Brian Hawks was another blond twink, but there was nothing innocent about him. He had a rather ferocious, devilish look about him.
by Anonymous | reply 334 | February 2, 2019 9:56 PM |
Look at this pic from R314
I love that expression. He was a great bottom, but he never seemed into it. Like he was empty on the inside.
by Anonymous | reply 335 | February 2, 2019 10:10 PM |
Jim Bentley did a scene with Chad Douglas by a pool. Chad was so exuberant in his movements at one point poor Bentley begged him to not go so deep, "don't go so deep you're killing me". And as usual Chad kept right on slamming away. And you could tell it wasn't a line in the script. The poor lad was in pain.
by Anonymous | reply 336 | February 2, 2019 10:43 PM |
What film was that, r336?
by Anonymous | reply 337 | February 2, 2019 10:45 PM |
Jim was in the same video Splash Shots 2 with Chad but they did no scene together. In SS 1 there was supposed to be a 3way but a twink backed out but Jim volunteered to get fucked by Giiorgio Canali.
by Anonymous | reply 338 | February 2, 2019 10:52 PM |
Oops, I'm sorry. That scene with Jim Bentley was with Giorgio Canali.
by Anonymous | reply 340 | February 2, 2019 11:05 PM |
Splash Shots 2 was the first gay porn film I’d ever seen and still my favorite. Though I do wish they had given Dane Ford something to do other than just a J/O scene.
What do we know about him? He was so hot in “Getting It” with Rick Donovan and David Ashfield. I know that Chad Johnson (who we don’t talk about enough!) was his boyfriend at one time.
by Anonymous | reply 341 | February 2, 2019 11:06 PM |
Here's the Bentley/Canali scene. Poor boy took one for the team that day.
by Anonymous | reply 342 | February 2, 2019 11:09 PM |
I enjoyed Kevin's performance with Steve Hammond in that weird jungle setting.
by Anonymous | reply 344 | February 2, 2019 11:17 PM |
R341, Here's Dane's filmography. I never heard about him and Chad Johnson: that's interesting.
In that same film, I loved John Rocklin: amazingly beautiful guy. He let Jim Bentley fuck him, but I think I read that he wouldn't suck dick or kiss.
by Anonymous | reply 345 | February 2, 2019 11:27 PM |
“Don’t worry about Eric...he’s in the West garden”
by Anonymous | reply 348 | February 2, 2019 11:35 PM |
Chad Johnson was hot as fuck. One of the first porn that I saw was with him and the scene was so hot. It had to have something to do with summer as fireworks were going off in the background. What made it so hot was he came in some guys mouth and you can tell it wasn't planned.
by Anonymous | reply 351 | February 2, 2019 11:44 PM |
SO his real name is Ted Currall.
by Anonymous | reply 352 | February 2, 2019 11:46 PM |
I hated those hairless, perfect blond boys. I never looked like them, never even got a smile from one. The older men in the films did it for me.
by Anonymous | reply 353 | February 3, 2019 12:08 AM |
Chad Johnson had some sort of physical anomaly with his penis opening that made all his pop shots come out in two streams. I always found that quite hot.
by Anonymous | reply 354 | February 3, 2019 12:23 AM |
I like that they hid the faggy voices back then they don’t even try anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 355 | February 3, 2019 12:24 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 357 | February 3, 2019 12:27 AM |
R292 it's like he has a goose nesting in his crotch.
by Anonymous | reply 358 | February 3, 2019 12:27 AM |
I was a big fan of Chad Johnson. Was very happy when he came back to the industry. Older but lord that body was even better.
by Anonymous | reply 359 | February 3, 2019 12:28 AM |
Why did gay pornstars look more high-class and respectable back in the 80s-early 90s than they do today? Back then, there were always several gorgeous guys who looked like they could be top fashion models, or the president of a college frat. Today they all look so sleazy and busted.
by Anonymous | reply 360 | February 3, 2019 12:29 AM |
I think maybe because they paid them more back then than they do now. I've read the average per scene payout these days is around $200.00. Back in the day the big stars could easily get $1000.00 and more, some times much more for the really top guys.
by Anonymous | reply 361 | February 3, 2019 12:34 AM |
And obviously they could afford to pay more back then because most people paid (dearly) for their porn. Today most people get it for free.
by Anonymous | reply 362 | February 3, 2019 12:36 AM |
Plus it was the look then. Also it was a much more closed world. They weren't as worried about being seen by everyone on the internet so they were able to score hotter guys for porn.
by Anonymous | reply 363 | February 3, 2019 12:36 AM |
the best few seconds in porn was in the Chad Douglas/Kevin Williams scene when Chad pulls out his cock and slaps it on the glass table.
by Anonymous | reply 364 | February 3, 2019 12:38 AM |
There's also a craze for skuzzy or skanky looking guys. Which includes the heavily tattooed. It's not just economics.
by Anonymous | reply 365 | February 3, 2019 12:39 AM |
"...Chad...leaves before Kevin gets off."
That's REALLY hot!
by Anonymous | reply 366 | February 3, 2019 12:40 AM |
Giorgio Canali giving Tony Bravo a class A routing was the stuff dreams were made of. FF to 19:25 for Giorgio's coup de grace.
by Anonymous | reply 367 | February 3, 2019 12:45 AM |
Steve Fox was the Kevin Williams of the 90s
by Anonymous | reply 368 | February 3, 2019 12:51 AM |
Is Canali still around?
by Anonymous | reply 369 | February 3, 2019 12:54 AM |
In SS 2 Chad D was having a 3way with Jeff Quinn and Buster who I assume is having erection problems. Chad just pushes him aside and takes over.
John Rocklin was one of the best looking models to appear in gay porn. He was only in 2 or 3 scenes. He got fucked twice and never sucks dicks even when Jeff Quinn begs.
by Anonymous | reply 370 | February 3, 2019 12:56 AM |
R368, I've only read about Steve Fox, so I don't know that what I've read about him is true. His real name was Rommel Hunt, and he had serious mental health issues. I don't watch any scenes with him, knowing his history.
by Anonymous | reply 371 | February 3, 2019 12:57 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 372 | February 3, 2019 12:59 AM |
Lance, r370...not Buster.
by Anonymous | reply 373 | February 3, 2019 1:01 AM |
r364 - that’s Cory Monroe in the scene with “Uncle” Chad...not Kevin.
by Anonymous | reply 374 | February 3, 2019 1:03 AM |
Look at Kyle Carringron makes 2iconic videos and not much later kills himself.
by Anonymous | reply 375 | February 3, 2019 1:03 AM |
Thanks 370. I believe SS2 was Lance’ last video.
by Anonymous | reply 376 | February 3, 2019 1:04 AM |
R370, Yes, I think it was John Travis or William Higgins who reported that John Rocklin wouldn't suck dick or kiss, and when he whined "that'll make me throw up", and they thought that was so typical of him, that they left it in the movie.
by Anonymous | reply 377 | February 3, 2019 1:05 AM |
2002 profile on Chad Johnson. He and Dane were together for 11 years.
by Anonymous | reply 380 | February 3, 2019 1:12 AM |
Unguarded Chad Johnson can be queenly and he has bottomed at least once.
Didn’t Dane Ford also have something with Lee Ryder ?
by Anonymous | reply 381 | February 3, 2019 1:18 AM |
R380, Thanks That was a good read.
by Anonymous | reply 382 | February 3, 2019 1:27 AM |
[quote] Is Canali still around?
No idea. He never bottomed (at least on screen) so if he was strictly a top in private he could have survived. He was Italian so like most of the foreign boys he probably went back to Europe at some point if he did make it through.
Never heard of Lane being with Lee Ryder. Rod Phillips was Lee Ryder's lover for quite a while. They unfortunately had an abusive relationship with Phillips regularly beating Ryder, putting him in the hospital at least once.
by Anonymous | reply 383 | February 3, 2019 1:30 AM |
That’s right Ryder and Philips. Was Ryder also mostly a bottom in real life ?
by Anonymous | reply 384 | February 3, 2019 2:38 AM |
R360, it's the current fad of all the trashy tattoos. They almost never had tattoos back in the hey-day of gay porn.
Tattoos are gross and ugly and make the guys look trashy and awful.
by Anonymous | reply 385 | February 3, 2019 2:44 AM |
Billy Brandt worked for Falcon, but in the late 1990s/early 2000s. He was gay for pay. He thought John Rutherford was a nice guy, but not too smart.
Surprised he is still alive. Nice guy, so happy for him
by Anonymous | reply 386 | February 3, 2019 2:45 AM |
Back in the day if you had a tattoo you were either in the Navy or Prison.
by Anonymous | reply 387 | February 3, 2019 2:46 AM |
Billy Brandt hit the wall and hard.
by Anonymous | reply 388 | February 3, 2019 2:59 AM |
They had butterfaces back then too.
by Anonymous | reply 389 | February 3, 2019 3:04 AM |
Before he hit the wall he became a tattoo victim.
by Anonymous | reply 391 | February 3, 2019 3:08 AM |
Jeremy Jordan's hole must look like the Holland Tunnel with all the big dicks that went up there.
by Anonymous | reply 393 | February 3, 2019 3:15 AM |
Giorgio Canali is still alive. I read something about him - I don't know, within the last year or two. Can't remember details, but he's alive. And he wasn't Italian, can't remember what nationality, but not Italian.
His "brother," on the other hand, Sergio Canali, was murdered in a very gruesome story.
by Anonymous | reply 394 | February 3, 2019 3:15 AM |
[quote]Look at Kyle Carringron makes 2iconic videos and not much later kills himself.
I remember when Kyle Carrington was reported as having died, the assumption was naturally AIDS. It was several years later that it was reported that he had moved to Hawaii, and took his own life because he had AIDS and didn't want to suffer.
by Anonymous | reply 395 | February 3, 2019 3:17 AM |
Billy Brandt was gorgeous for about 2 or 3 years and then god knows what happened to him. I guess he just started eating anything in sight and got on drugs or booze or who knows.
by Anonymous | reply 397 | February 3, 2019 3:18 AM |
Kyle Carrington had a rough life.
It was bad enough that his father Blake had one gay son, but to have another who was also doing porn was too much for him to handle and Kyle was disowned. His loving mother Alexis tried to understand but even she was distant with her feelings and love.
If only he could have connected with his ethereal stepmother Krystle then perhaps he could have been spared a lot of heartache and depression.
by Anonymous | reply 398 | February 3, 2019 3:22 AM |
Wait... Kyle had a gay brother?
by Anonymous | reply 399 | February 3, 2019 3:27 AM |
Yes, R399...his name is Steven.
by Anonymous | reply 400 | February 3, 2019 3:31 AM |
Umm...
R398 was trying to add levity.
The name references are from the 1980s television series "Dynasty".
by Anonymous | reply 401 | February 3, 2019 3:33 AM |
You had me for a hot second, r398.
I have a friend who came from the same Indiana town as "Kyle Carrington" - he sent me a photo when he (his real name was Steven A. Bishop, born in 1961 in Missouri) was visiting his hometown in Indiana. The local paper did a story on him and his "success" in Hollywood - he explained how he had quickly gotten an agent (true - a gay porn "agent") and already had shot two movies. (True again - his two pornos, "Hot Male Mechanics" -which was originally called "Popular Mechanics" till a complaint by the magazine- and "Tough Competition").
In reality, Steve moved to Hawaii in 1987, where he lived until his death, at 35, in 1997 - he discovered he had AIDS, and finally decided he'd jump from a cliff into the ocean rather than live with the disease.
by Anonymous | reply 402 | February 3, 2019 3:37 AM |
Cory/Corey Monroe was still around and active as of a few years ago!
by Anonymous | reply 404 | February 3, 2019 4:22 AM |
Corey hasn't aged too well. But then I never found him all that attractive, even when he was young.
by Anonymous | reply 405 | February 3, 2019 4:25 AM |
Some lovely comments from you guys. Keep them coming.
Any recent pics of Kevin Williams at all?
by Anonymous | reply 406 | February 3, 2019 8:40 AM |
I don't think (considering his age) that Cory Monroe looks bad at all. He's got to be well up in his 50's by now. I'm just shocked at how tiny he seems in that video. Either that or both those other guys are 7' tall.
A little CM trivia: According to the late pornstar Brad Peters aka Keith James he and Monroe served in the military together.
by Anonymous | reply 407 | February 3, 2019 10:10 AM |
But back to Kevin...any update guys?
by Anonymous | reply 408 | February 3, 2019 12:46 PM |
Yeah, this thread is dedicated to Kevin. Start a general porn star update thread.
by Anonymous | reply 409 | February 3, 2019 1:15 PM |
There probably isn't much to say....he got old. He became a deplorable, but he was something in the day.
by Anonymous | reply 410 | February 3, 2019 2:18 PM |
r410 that Trump pledge was somw time ago.
Do you think Kevin has changed hidls position now?
by Anonymous | reply 411 | February 3, 2019 3:14 PM |
That Trump pledge was some time ago.
Do you think Kevin has changed his position now?
*
by Anonymous | reply 412 | February 3, 2019 4:02 PM |
No?
by Anonymous | reply 413 | February 3, 2019 9:22 PM |
R411, yes he has changed his position. Now he's Reverse Cowboy.
by Anonymous | reply 414 | February 3, 2019 9:39 PM |
I’m bored with talking about Kevin. Can we go back to talking about other 80s porn bottoms now??
by Anonymous | reply 415 | February 3, 2019 10:15 PM |
Fine with me, if it's Jim Bentley. (Yes, I know Jim was often a top, but any chance to shoehorn Jim in...) His gusto and venality are fascinating. A Proto-slut. That smirk!
by Anonymous | reply 416 | February 3, 2019 10:21 PM |
I met and chatted with Jim Bentley at a party, this was probably about 22-23 years ago. It was in SF. He looked okay, his hair was still light blond, and it wasn't long like in the above picture. It was strange, because he seemed a little off-kilter, like maybe he had fried his brain on drugs years ago (I have no idea if he was into drugs or not). He actually looks okay still in the above pic, but he definitely needs to get a good haircut. According to IMDB, he turns 59 in May, which seems about right.
by Anonymous | reply 418 | February 3, 2019 10:33 PM |
R417 and R418, thanks! He looks okay now, IMO. I think he has said that drugs were an element in his life at one time, and I've wondered how he had the discipline to maintain his body, but since that's been his livelihood, that's an incentive. Maybe he's one of those people who looks at a barbell and loses a pound, rather than those who look at a piece of cake and gain 5 pounds. Anyone know his height?
by Anonymous | reply 419 | February 3, 2019 10:47 PM |
I can't believe I said 22-23 years ago, I meant 12 or 13. It was around 2006.
by Anonymous | reply 420 | February 3, 2019 10:48 PM |
Well, he's not short, r420. I would guess about 5-10. Not over 6 ft though. I'm 6-2 and he was a little shorter than I am.
by Anonymous | reply 421 | February 3, 2019 10:49 PM |
Jim Montana is the one I was trying to think of. I don’t think he did very many videos.
by Anonymous | reply 423 | February 3, 2019 11:04 PM |
R422, Jim and Kevin have a nice rapport. I wonder if they keep in touch.
by Anonymous | reply 424 | February 3, 2019 11:24 PM |
I was under the impression that Jim and Kevin were boyfriends at one time.
by Anonymous | reply 426 | February 3, 2019 11:31 PM |
I've not heard that before.
I heard Kevin and Lane Fuller were an item, but that was all.
by Anonymous | reply 427 | February 4, 2019 12:52 AM |
R427, I read an interview with Kevin where he confirmed that he and Lane Fuller were a couple. I don't think they are anymore. I always thought Lane was gorgeous, but there was something about him that was strangely 'blank'. He's very intriguing to me.
by Anonymous | reply 428 | February 4, 2019 12:58 AM |
I doubt Kevin and Jim are in touch anymore. From Jim's postings years ago on his Yahoo Group, it seemed like he was really soured on the whole gay scene. He had a boyfriend who died of AIDS and helped care for him but didn't have any luck with finding a guy who wanted a serious relationship.
Some claimed on here around a year ago, that they seen Jim living on the streets of San Francisco and that he seemed very lost. I hope that's no long the case today.
by Anonymous | reply 429 | February 4, 2019 1:09 AM |
Director Steve Scarborough reportly had the biggest cock in porn. Over 11 inches thick?..
by Anonymous | reply 430 | February 4, 2019 1:21 AM |
[r418] and [r419] I "met" (aka hired) Jim Bentley in SF maybe around ~2000ish. He was in great shape and when I complimented him, he said he was lucky genetically and honestly only hit the gym for about 45 min, 3-4 times a week. I was incredulous. If I remember correctly, he said his father was a past Mr. California or something, so started with some good genes.
I actually didn't know it was Jim Bentley until 15 min or so into our meeting and then realized why he seemed familiar.
His ass was still great - fit perfectly in my hand. While I always thought of him as a top based on his on screen performances and that cocky, confident smirk, he very naturally bottomed for me unprompted and seemed to enjoy himself.
Based on the pic posted by [r417], he looks like he's still in very good shape, but that long hair and mustache does make him seem a bit sketchy.
by Anonymous | reply 431 | February 4, 2019 2:05 AM |
Thx. Just the one time? How long would you say his cock was?
by Anonymous | reply 432 | February 4, 2019 2:26 AM |
Meaty or just average?
by Anonymous | reply 433 | February 4, 2019 11:29 AM |
I've been watching gay porn since the early 1980s and it's rare for me to enjoy all of the performers in a scene. But the KW/JP scene is one of my absolute favorites. Jim Pulver is one of the sexiest blondes ever in porn and to see him suck and rim pretty little KW is so hot.
So is the Big Guns scene with KW and MH.
Two classics.
by Anonymous | reply 434 | February 4, 2019 3:47 PM |
I agree with you R434 I really liked that scene too. It was very energetic.
How many scenes did Kevin do?
Not than many or was he prolific?
by Anonymous | reply 435 | February 4, 2019 5:00 PM |
Isn't Mike Henson the only guy to top John Davenport (in a movie)? Can't remember the original film but it's in "The Best of John Davenport" compilation video.
by Anonymous | reply 436 | February 4, 2019 6:24 PM |
Jim Pulver had that hot as blazes blue collar sexiness about him. He looked like a construction worker. If you saw him on the street you'd never think he'd be into the homosex, where the man go up into the man.
by Anonymous | reply 437 | February 4, 2019 6:27 PM |
He jerked off in one scene and his dick was just a little bigger than his palm
by Anonymous | reply 438 | February 4, 2019 6:35 PM |
I thought the jim and kevin combo worked really well.
by Anonymous | reply 439 | February 4, 2019 7:05 PM |
Which studios did Kevin shoot for apart from Falcoln?
by Anonymous | reply 440 | February 4, 2019 8:22 PM |
I liked Kevin's scene with Jeff Palmer in Betrayed. I wonder if Palmer had seroconverted at that time yet?
by Anonymous | reply 441 | February 4, 2019 8:23 PM |
I love that there's a recent porn star whose real name is John Davenport. It's like he was destined
by Anonymous | reply 442 | February 4, 2019 8:24 PM |
Lane Fuller was incredibly cute and I remember his scene with Tom Chase being really hot, but I heard they didn't get along in real life. Lane really did have a dead eyed stare. It's weird to say, but I wouldn't be surprised if I read in the news that he killed a family of 8 in cold blood. Does he have Aspergers? Is he a sociopath? I can't tell, but something's off about him.
by Anonymous | reply 443 | February 4, 2019 9:22 PM |
I havent found anything more about Lane. He just disappeared into thin air, which is a shame.
At least we have some lovely memories of them in their prime.
by Anonymous | reply 444 | February 4, 2019 10:05 PM |
I never completely believed that Hensen was actually topping John Davenport.
by Anonymous | reply 445 | February 4, 2019 10:16 PM |
Do you think stunts were involved R445 ?
by Anonymous | reply 446 | February 4, 2019 10:18 PM |
Mike Henson topped John Davenport in 'Bad Boys Club', but John also bottomed in 'Sunstroke' (for Michael Vincent).
R440, Here's Kevin's filmography. He shot for several different studios.
by Anonymous | reply 447 | February 4, 2019 10:47 PM |
k williams and lane fuller dating must have been like this.
by Anonymous | reply 448 | February 4, 2019 10:52 PM |
Bad Boys Club was Kevin's debut, right? Jerking off in the woods while Davenport and barely legal Lyndon Blair watch.
by Anonymous | reply 449 | February 4, 2019 10:59 PM |
Lane Fuller (and Kevin Williams) were both heavily into drugs at one point when they were together.
by Anonymous | reply 450 | February 4, 2019 11:02 PM |
Lane had one of the greatest asses in the business.
by Anonymous | reply 451 | February 4, 2019 11:19 PM |
Kevin and Lane together. I wouldn't have expected Kevin to be taller than Lane.
by Anonymous | reply 452 | February 4, 2019 11:22 PM |
[quote] Isn't Mike Henson the only guy to top John Davenport (in a movie)?
Clear penetration shot?
by Anonymous | reply 453 | February 5, 2019 12:01 AM |
Is Tom Chase still around? Making videos?
by Anonymous | reply 454 | February 5, 2019 12:22 AM |
It was CGI
by Anonymous | reply 455 | February 5, 2019 12:31 AM |
Chi Chi and Michael Weinstein were the cause of AIM shutting down. Porn Wiki Leaks got into their records and posted a bunch of performers legal and professional names on the their website and they didn't have to hack the website to do it either. To see a performers test results AIM had a producer login portal where a production company could check if someone's test results were current. It was well known that producers and directors shared their login info with other producers or friends who didn't want to pay the fee to access the portal and who where working on the gonzo/independent side of porn. AIM had no way of setting up who was logging in or who was viewing test results so it was quite easy to go through and do a get performers information.
Also, "Dr. Sharon Mitchell" was not a licensed phlebotomist and her PhD came from a diploma mill. When AIM shut down, it was hundreds of thousands of dollars in the hole and no one knew where the money was and Sharon Mitchell pretty much disappeared.
by Anonymous | reply 457 | February 5, 2019 12:44 AM |
wonder if any porngods had kids that also became porn whores.
I met kevin Williams at nob hill theatre, he would not do pvts….oddly, he pretty str8 I think
by Anonymous | reply 458 | February 5, 2019 1:27 AM |
I think Chance Caldwell has a son in porn. They did a 3some scene with a female under his straight porn name(?). I don't remember any overt incest, but it was definitely that vibe.
by Anonymous | reply 459 | February 5, 2019 2:04 AM |
I knew Chance Caldwell for a while outside of porn. He's a fucking nasty pig. Not in a good way.
by Anonymous | reply 460 | February 5, 2019 2:11 AM |
"he pretty straight"
You're full of shit R458.
by Anonymous | reply 461 | February 5, 2019 2:12 AM |
Apparently, Caldwell can autofellate as well. He looks rough nowadays.
by Anonymous | reply 462 | February 5, 2019 2:14 AM |
For some reason, I always got the idea that Lane might have been a top in real life, but due to his stature and ass, he was a bottom in his porn films. Maybe that's why he never really seemed into it.
by Anonymous | reply 463 | February 5, 2019 2:16 AM |
Please elaborate R460! I love Chance's old Falcon movies. He was a strapping stud (particularly as a bottom) and his accent added to his appeal. I have heard from multiple sources that "Chance" was straight, but perhaps he was at least bi. I did read that years ago he had his own porn website and that his bf at the time was pretty gross and used to take a shit on camera between the webcam sex scenes (big turn off for most). As for his "son" - I did see a clip of some straight 3-way that they filmed (Chance was quite a bit older by then) with an actress. I assumed that the incest thing was just a marketing ploy, but who knows. Perhaps you do :-)!
by Anonymous | reply 464 | February 5, 2019 3:11 AM |
Tom Chase looks like hell and has done low end bareback vids.
by Anonymous | reply 465 | February 5, 2019 3:24 AM |
Kevin Williams ass made me gay.
by Anonymous | reply 467 | February 5, 2019 5:27 AM |
Kevin William's ass made me afraid of tunnels and manholes.
by Anonymous | reply 468 | February 5, 2019 5:39 AM |
I wanted to eat and fuck his ass so bad.
by Anonymous | reply 469 | February 5, 2019 5:47 AM |
Absolute: Aqua was my first gay porn I rented with Lane Fuller on the cover. I got briefly obsessed with Falcon Studio's older releases but then I moved on to BelAmi.
by Anonymous | reply 470 | February 5, 2019 6:02 AM |
R466 that's a great pic! What happened to Lane after Kevin?
by Anonymous | reply 471 | February 5, 2019 8:36 AM |
A shame that Kevin and Lane never did an official porn scene together. All we got was them being in the same movie having some non-hardcore action scenes together in Falcon Studio's Fulfilled which features one of the hottest scenes ever with Tom Chase dominating Lane Fuller.
by Anonymous | reply 472 | February 5, 2019 9:15 AM |
Perhaps they could do a new scene for us now!
by Anonymous | reply 473 | February 5, 2019 9:32 AM |
funny how individual tastes are. I found that chase fuller scene repellant.
by Anonymous | reply 474 | February 5, 2019 9:33 AM |
Chase looks repellant nowadays
by Anonymous | reply 475 | February 5, 2019 9:43 AM |
John Davenport never actually fucked Kevin Williams right? That was a big missed opportunity.
by Anonymous | reply 476 | February 5, 2019 11:51 AM |
John was famous for his big opportunity.
by Anonymous | reply 477 | February 5, 2019 12:26 PM |
In the image at R452 KW has the face of someone who is quite ill or heavily into some serious drugs.
by Anonymous | reply 478 | February 5, 2019 12:50 PM |
I'm afraid Tom Chase's hot days are well behind him. Unless you like this sort of look.
by Anonymous | reply 479 | February 5, 2019 12:59 PM |
R479 That is such a shame because he is still very handsome sans tattoos.
I though his and Kevin's shoot was very hot by that pool.
by Anonymous | reply 480 | February 5, 2019 1:03 PM |
Well, duh. Time has moved on and nobody looks as beautiful as decades ago. And it's especially sad with porn stars who have fond memories of from that time.
by Anonymous | reply 481 | February 5, 2019 1:04 PM |
Sorry, who you have fond memories of from that time.
by Anonymous | reply 482 | February 5, 2019 1:05 PM |
R481 I meant that he was still handsome, even with the passage of time, but without the tats.
by Anonymous | reply 483 | February 5, 2019 1:20 PM |
The tats are even worse that the ones you can see. He's also had this hideous huge tattoo done around his asshole. I saw a photo of it several months back but can't remember where. If I remember correctly it's a big sunburst tattoo.
by Anonymous | reply 484 | February 5, 2019 2:34 PM |
I seem to recall that was published somewhere.
I do think anal tattooing and bleaching is particularly repulsive.
by Anonymous | reply 485 | February 5, 2019 2:47 PM |
In my opinion anal tattooing is right up there with cock piercing. It's the result of a mental illness.
by Anonymous | reply 486 | February 5, 2019 3:03 PM |
Is Tom mentally ill then R486
by Anonymous | reply 487 | February 5, 2019 3:29 PM |
Tom Chase picked me up in a drugstore and we went back to his apartment and fucked. He was a little fat and hairy, tbh.
I kept thinking, "I'm getting fucked by Tom Chase!" the whole time. It was surreal.
by Anonymous | reply 488 | February 5, 2019 3:52 PM |
Tom Chase bottomed for Mike Branson. Mike Branson bottomed for no one.
by Anonymous | reply 489 | February 5, 2019 4:37 PM |
R488 I am well jelous of you!
by Anonymous | reply 490 | February 5, 2019 4:51 PM |
I would have loved to have been to a meet n greet with Kevin in his hayday.
by Anonymous | reply 491 | February 5, 2019 6:50 PM |
I'm so turned off that he's a Trumper.
Are there any gay porn stars who are openly Democrat/progressive/leftist?
by Anonymous | reply 492 | February 5, 2019 7:12 PM |
R492, Josh at Corbin Fisher is active on FB under his real name, and he's very gay friendly, although he married a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 493 | February 5, 2019 7:21 PM |
That scene was originally supposed to be a flip flop actually r489, we were supposed to see Branson bottom on screen. Pity it didn't end up working out that way.
by Anonymous | reply 494 | February 5, 2019 7:25 PM |
I'm not asking if any are "very gay friendly," R493. Lots of deplorable think that they're "very gay friendly," especially the ones who suck dick while being married to a woman.
I'm asking if any are as vocally liberal/progressive/Democratic/leftist as their numerous, highly visible Trumper counterparts on the right. I find it far more strange that a gay porn star supports Donald Trump than one who's married to a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 495 | February 5, 2019 8:39 PM |
Blake Mitchell is pretty anti-MAGA on Twitter
by Anonymous | reply 496 | February 5, 2019 9:18 PM |
I do like a good tan line.
by Anonymous | reply 497 | February 5, 2019 10:08 PM |
Me too...they knew how to create them back in the 80s and 90s
by Anonymous | reply 498 | February 5, 2019 10:42 PM |
R488, did you buy an enema while you were at the drugstore or were you prepared?
by Anonymous | reply 499 | February 5, 2019 10:45 PM |
Tom Chase had the most perfect ass and hardest cock while he was getting fucked. I used to fuck him regularly when he worked at a gym in Boston. With me, he was always total bottom. Always found it funny that Falcon turned him into a top on video. I had heard had a bad drug problem, which maybe he has so many over the top tattooes!
by Anonymous | reply 500 | February 6, 2019 12:20 AM |
R493, Well, I'm going to post something I wish I didn't have to (I guess I don't, but I'm honest). It took me a while to locate 'Josh' (he doesn't seem to be on FB anymore), and what I found is that he's a registered Republican. When I looked at his FB, a few years back, he was involved with plenty of gay rights causes, so I don't know what to think, now, but I'm pretty saddened to learn that, and admit that.
by Anonymous | reply 501 | February 6, 2019 12:43 AM |
Who is Josh?
by Anonymous | reply 502 | February 6, 2019 1:02 AM |
R502, 'Josh' is a popular Sean Cody performer. He's filmed lots of scenes, and is a voracious performer. I'm disappointed to learn that he's a Republican, because he's otherwise been very supportive of gay causes. I don't understand the mentality.
by Anonymous | reply 503 | February 6, 2019 1:09 AM |
That's legitimately disappointing.
by Anonymous | reply 504 | February 6, 2019 1:17 AM |
Kevin's underbite makes him look slightly "special" and really makes him sound slow when he speaks.
by Anonymous | reply 505 | February 6, 2019 2:03 AM |
I would have loved to have seen him take some big black cock.
by Anonymous | reply 506 | February 6, 2019 2:06 AM |
R498, there were several different ways of creating them. One was to paint on a thin slurry of talcum powder and glycerin (for sheen), then a light spray of fixative. Of course they needed to be touched up now and then during filming, especially those of bottoms.
by Anonymous | reply 507 | February 6, 2019 6:10 AM |
R506 That's a good point about Kevin. I would have enjoyed seeing him in an interacial scene with one or two black guys. Porn back then was very white.
by Anonymous | reply 508 | February 6, 2019 8:17 AM |
When Tom called Kevin's pooter his "fantasy hole" it came straight from the heart. That line was not scripted.
by Anonymous | reply 509 | February 6, 2019 8:33 AM |
R500, I'm envious. When I fucked "Tom" he didn't always stay hard. You must have something extra "special." Tom was a good guy, but that nelly voice could be a little annoying.
by Anonymous | reply 510 | February 6, 2019 8:39 AM |
R508, yes! That's what I watch porn for. Those unexpected moments of genuine emotion. Always gets me right in the solar plexus.
by Anonymous | reply 511 | February 6, 2019 8:50 AM |
I still fantasize about eating out kevins fine pink smooth asshole
by Anonymous | reply 512 | February 6, 2019 10:01 AM |
Maybe he's available niw R512 for you to fulfill your fantasy.
by Anonymous | reply 513 | February 6, 2019 10:40 AM |
Chad Knight got gang banged by a bunch of black guys. It might have been one of his first films
by Anonymous | reply 514 | February 6, 2019 12:01 PM |
Since Kevin's a Trumper we can safely guess he's racist af, too. Probably would never consent to a black partner, let alone a gang bang.
by Anonymous | reply 515 | February 6, 2019 2:06 PM |
Is there not thread that those suffering from TDS can't ruin?
by Anonymous | reply 516 | February 6, 2019 2:09 PM |
R515 Surely if he was a Trumpist, his love of financial reward would trump any misgivings about an interacial scene?
by Anonymous | reply 517 | February 6, 2019 2:14 PM |
R516 What is this TDS that you speak of?
by Anonymous | reply 518 | February 6, 2019 2:16 PM |
It's too bad the ATKOL forums weren't archived, since KW did an Ask Kevin Williams Q&A there in the early aughts.
I recall he said he only got into porn so he could fuck. He claimed back then you couldn't go into bars in California unless you were 21 and over, so doing porn allowed him to meet and fuck guys. And he retired when he turned 21, since he could then get into the clubs.
by Anonymous | reply 519 | February 6, 2019 2:31 PM |
Wow really?
It's such a shame when the likes of ATKOL and other boards just disappear. All of that collective information just vanishes. Histriorians can look back on the printed word, photographs and the like, but when digital resources like that are deleted, they are gone forever, and anyone studying the gay porn industry in future years, just won't have that data to refer back to.
by Anonymous | reply 520 | February 6, 2019 2:42 PM |
R519, did Kevin Williams also explain what made him come out of retirement?
by Anonymous | reply 521 | February 6, 2019 2:43 PM |
Great question R521
by Anonymous | reply 522 | February 6, 2019 3:13 PM |
I really kind of hate him now, knowing he's a Trumper. I wish just once we'd see a gay porn star at an anti-trump rally or something.
by Anonymous | reply 523 | February 6, 2019 3:16 PM |
Kevin Williams got some prime cock in his day.
by Anonymous | reply 524 | February 6, 2019 3:25 PM |
Kevin William was at his prime at the apex of the industry in my opinion.
by Anonymous | reply 525 | February 6, 2019 3:33 PM |
Mike Branson knew what he was doing. Supreme Court judges are not allowed to be bottoms.
by Anonymous | reply 526 | February 6, 2019 5:41 PM |
RBG loves anal.
by Anonymous | reply 527 | February 6, 2019 6:27 PM |
Did Jeff Stryker or Mike Branson ever get a crack at Kevin's ass?
by Anonymous | reply 528 | February 6, 2019 7:07 PM |
I dont think they did. I stand to be corrected though!
by Anonymous | reply 529 | February 6, 2019 7:10 PM |
Well done to everyone for contributing to this wide ranging conversation about Kevin Williams, other Falcon porn stars and porn in general.
It's been a really fascinating thread.
If Kevin is viewing this, there are many of your fans that wish you well for the future in whatever venture you persue.
by Anonymous | reply 530 | February 6, 2019 9:10 PM |
R507 WTF are you talking about? The tan lines in the 80's and 90's were the result of regular use of tanning salons while wearing a speedo. They were called "speedo lines" in certain circles. The key was to keep the ass and crotch area completely unexposed to any UV light so it remained super white, and get as tan as possible everywhere else.
by Anonymous | reply 531 | February 6, 2019 9:31 PM |
Were they not natural R531
by Anonymous | reply 532 | February 6, 2019 9:41 PM |
R519, R520, I used to post on Atkol, and it really is a shame their forums have disappeared. We had a thread about Atkol a while back. There were some really well informed posters there, and it was interesting when different porn performers and other people in the industry would post there. Especially David Forest. Some of the old posters from there still stay in contact with some other forum (not very active). A link is in this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 533 | February 6, 2019 9:54 PM |
Time is especially cruel to porn stars. It’s like when a pianist loses the use of his hands, or when a singer becomes mute.
by Anonymous | reply 534 | February 6, 2019 10:01 PM |
Mike Hensen and John Davenport were in several porn flicks together. I wonder if the fucked off screen as well.
by Anonymous | reply 535 | February 6, 2019 10:33 PM |
Thank you R533 Atkol was the go to place for info.
It is a sadly missed resource.
by Anonymous | reply 536 | February 6, 2019 10:41 PM |
R507 I call BS on that. They found guys who naturally had that genetic trait for dichromatism. I used to see ads in the LA gay weekly for guys like that.
by Anonymous | reply 537 | February 7, 2019 12:32 AM |
Time wounds all heels.
by Anonymous | reply 538 | February 7, 2019 12:39 AM |
That Lane Fuller dildo scene w Tom Chase is incredibly hotttttttt
by Anonymous | reply 539 | February 7, 2019 2:40 AM |
Is Tom Chass now a Republican Congressman from Alabama?
by Anonymous | reply 540 | February 7, 2019 7:25 AM |
R540 Pics please!
by Anonymous | reply 541 | February 7, 2019 3:43 PM |
R272
Jim Bently, IMO, looked like a young Rev Jim Bakker with a bleach job.
by Anonymous | reply 542 | February 7, 2019 4:41 PM |
Dumb Trump loving old whore.
by Anonymous | reply 543 | February 7, 2019 5:51 PM |
Tom Chase was a mega star! Where is he now?
by Anonymous | reply 544 | February 7, 2019 6:40 PM |
He's become a tattooist just next to the Supreme Court Building, so that he can be close to The Hon Mike Branson R544
by Anonymous | reply 545 | February 7, 2019 6:42 PM |
[quote]If Kevin is viewing this, there are many of your fans that wish you well for the future in whatever venture you persue.
Speak for yourself. More than a few of us are disgusted by his Trumpism and call on him to repudiate his past support. I'm not here to slobber all over some Trump supporter's ego, even if he is Kevin Williams. If Kevin shows up in this thread he'll have a lot of explaining to do.
by Anonymous | reply 546 | February 7, 2019 6:55 PM |
How long did it take you to trawl through the thread to find those comments? R546
You commitment to exposing republican porn stars is exemplorary.
by Anonymous | reply 547 | February 7, 2019 7:00 PM |
Also admiralable.
by Anonymous | reply 548 | February 7, 2019 7:52 PM |
Commendable even!
by Anonymous | reply 549 | February 7, 2019 8:30 PM |
Sorry but if you're gay and a Republican you obviously have some serious issues and if you're gay and a Trump supporter you can just go fuck yourself.
by Anonymous | reply 550 | February 7, 2019 8:34 PM |
R550 Kevin had done that to himself in one movie, but I can't remember which it is.
by Anonymous | reply 551 | February 7, 2019 8:42 PM |
He tried to in his audition but couldn't.
by Anonymous | reply 552 | February 8, 2019 7:52 AM |
Wesley Woods is very liberal/progressive - he did a great video taking Colby Kellar apart for his Trump vote.
by Anonymous | reply 553 | February 8, 2019 8:50 AM |
Wesley Woods might be a liberal and progressive but he's also a smug asshole.
by Anonymous | reply 554 | February 8, 2019 9:00 AM |
It's Interesting that sex and politics are so intertwined for many of you.
Whereas, over here, we just see a hot guy.
by Anonymous | reply 555 | February 8, 2019 9:11 AM |
“Over here”, R555?
What street do you live on?
by Anonymous | reply 556 | February 9, 2019 12:00 AM |
"It's Interesting that sex and politics are so intertwined for many of you."
Just the queens who want to have something to say. A chance to get on a soapbox and complain about something.
Like any of them would say no to 19-year-old "Kevin Williams".
They don't want him now because, like they, he's in his fifties. And if there's one thing an old, bitchy queen can't handle it's seeing herself as she really is: old.
by Anonymous | reply 557 | February 9, 2019 1:42 AM |
R557 Seeing him here for first time I think he would be a dime a dozen bottom, right now. Probably have a cheesey tramp stamp tattoo also. He’s not special.
by Anonymous | reply 558 | February 9, 2019 2:01 AM |
When people doxx porn performers on DL, I tend to look at their social media, and it's disheartening to learn their political stance, in most cases. It doesn't keep me from enjoying their performances. There are other things I learn about some of them that will produce a chill for me, though. When it turns out someone has been through the wringer with drugs, and is working to change their life, I really don't want to see any more of their clips. 'Marshall' from Sean Cody and 'Shiloh' from Chaosmen had very serious drug problems, and have worked very hard to change their lives. I don't watch their scenes any more. If they can get their lives together, then good for them, because it's not easy.
by Anonymous | reply 559 | February 9, 2019 2:04 AM |
R546
So if anyone supported and or voted for Trump, you dismiss them completely
by Anonymous | reply 560 | February 9, 2019 2:07 AM |
R558
Oh hon, you should do so well.
by Anonymous | reply 561 | February 9, 2019 2:07 AM |
Really interesting views.
I do wonder if Kevin has had further tattoos since the ones we saw in his comeback movies?
by Anonymous | reply 562 | February 9, 2019 5:19 PM |
Sorry R557 but I don't fuck whores no matter what their age is, and even if I did it wouldn't be an anti-gay Repuck one like Williams.
by Anonymous | reply 563 | February 9, 2019 5:22 PM |
I'd love to tap Kevin's red state rump.
by Anonymous | reply 564 | February 9, 2019 6:11 PM |
Well you know they are an idiot R560
by Anonymous | reply 565 | February 9, 2019 6:38 PM |
[quote]So if anyone supported and or voted for Trump, you dismiss them completely
Absolutely, what about that is so hard to understand?
by Anonymous | reply 566 | February 9, 2019 6:40 PM |
Anyone who voted for Trump is either stupid or shares his rancid views either way, not anyone I'd want to associate with.
by Anonymous | reply 567 | February 9, 2019 7:22 PM |
Does anyone know if Kevin Williams is a Trump supporter?
by Anonymous | reply 568 | February 9, 2019 7:28 PM |
Kevin had a sugar daddy who paid him a monthly FIVE figure salary. Repug and racist. I don't doubt that Kevin had his views honed by him.
by Anonymous | reply 569 | February 9, 2019 8:03 PM |
Tell us more R569
Has that relationship ended?
by Anonymous | reply 570 | February 10, 2019 8:28 AM |
R570, it was WAAAAY back, like in the '90s and after he got dumped is when he made a brief return to porn and escorting.
by Anonymous | reply 571 | February 10, 2019 3:07 PM |
Very interesting.
Do you have a recent update for us R571
by Anonymous | reply 572 | February 10, 2019 3:24 PM |
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. A homosexual Republican is on the same level as a black Ku Klux Klansman. Something went wrong with their psychological development at some point in their lives.
by Anonymous | reply 573 | February 10, 2019 3:31 PM |
Thank you for that insightfulness R573
by Anonymous | reply 574 | February 10, 2019 3:50 PM |
Do any of you have any more recent news of Kev?
by Anonymous | reply 575 | February 11, 2019 6:50 PM |
Kevin’s work with dildos and jockstraps was always exceptional.
by Anonymous | reply 576 | February 11, 2019 9:10 PM |
R576 I think most of his work stands ip to favorable scruitiny.
by Anonymous | reply 577 | February 11, 2019 9:13 PM |
R576, Perhaps with your recommendation he can get a quality control position in those industries.
by Anonymous | reply 578 | February 11, 2019 9:40 PM |
recent pix? bet he still has a hot fuckin ass
by Anonymous | reply 579 | February 12, 2019 9:17 AM |
R577 screwtiny?
by Anonymous | reply 580 | February 12, 2019 9:41 AM |
Not everyone is into that blond California beach boy look that was Kevin's stock in trade when he was young.
There are several vintage porn stars I would have been all over like a cheap suit, but he's not one of them.
by Anonymous | reply 581 | February 12, 2019 10:33 AM |
Such as R581?
by Anonymous | reply 582 | February 12, 2019 5:30 PM |
No one cares what you think, R581, you punchbowl turd.
by Anonymous | reply 583 | February 12, 2019 6:01 PM |
Harsh R583
by Anonymous | reply 584 | February 12, 2019 10:02 PM |
As this thread draws to a conclusion, no nearer finding out if Kevin is alive and well at some Trump convention or if he's become a monk, should we start a new vintage porn thread for further recollections of the biz back in the day?
by Anonymous | reply 585 | February 13, 2019 2:49 PM |
Bumpage
by Anonymous | reply 586 | February 17, 2019 7:14 PM |
No recent sightings then?
by Anonymous | reply 587 | February 19, 2019 3:37 PM |
A more recent photo of him was posted at R1, and his real name was already posted upthread. He changed his security settings on FB after being outed as a Republican.
by Anonymous | reply 588 | February 19, 2019 3:49 PM |
R588 That's a great shame that he was hounded off of FB.
Nothing else turn up of him anywhere else?
by Anonymous | reply 589 | February 19, 2019 4:00 PM |
I was privileged to suk his ass out after a porn star party, it was a beautiful as u can imagine, I never forgot the taste of his dirty yet legendary hole. god dam he was handsome...
by Anonymous | reply 590 | February 20, 2019 2:29 AM |
Kevin and I shared a sugar daddy for year. The sugar daddy wasn't THAT generous. I learned that Kevin was versatile in the sack and a "sweetheart" and we never crossed paths.
by Anonymous | reply 591 | February 20, 2019 2:43 AM |
R590 = The Alam troll. He goes around "sucking asses out."
by Anonymous | reply 592 | February 20, 2019 4:44 AM |
Shame the daddy wasn't generous.
Do we think that Kevin is living a suburban lifestyle now?
by Anonymous | reply 593 | February 20, 2019 2:57 PM |
Bump
by Anonymous | reply 594 | February 22, 2019 9:26 AM |
Why are people jealous I got to suck out some of the best porn god cunts around? I can afford it, u cant?
by Anonymous | reply 595 | February 22, 2019 9:38 AM |
Thank you for that contribution.
by Anonymous | reply 596 | February 22, 2019 9:43 AM |
Has anyone had any Kev contact recently?
by Anonymous | reply 597 | February 25, 2019 8:17 AM |
Yes, I saw him out buying groceries this weekend. He says hi.
by Anonymous | reply 598 | February 25, 2019 2:46 PM |
R598 Did you send him our warmest wishes?
by Anonymous | reply 599 | February 25, 2019 3:48 PM |
A pretty and vacant WASP face. Bimbette. Sure he's GOP.
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