Something big might be happening at DC Circuit today

All of this could have been accomplished with a huge can of Raid. Trump and Pence and McConnell don’t deserve to live. None of them.

@LouiseMensch is saying it's Mike Pence

@LouiseMensch is a diseased wench

Seriously she is not a good source for anything

I wonder if they would do for this for any other case besides one involving the traitors. What else could be this secretive?

r3 I agree that Ms Mensch/Bagshawe is not a good source. I trust 70-85% of what six of her Twitter allies write (some of them post unsubstantiated sensationalism too, but with a better signal:noise ratio), but I haven't yet seen anything from her I'd believe. When I read about Louise Mensch it's because she's blocking people or posted something bizarre. She must have written something correct early on, once, and is milking that cow of glory as much as she can.

Mensch's game was to make broad statements ("there are sealed indictments!") early on, the only one of which turned out to be true was her prediction that there were sealed indictments.

From that point on, she would start out a lot of her tweets with "as I said two weeks ago," then talk about that day's news. Because she tweeted vaguely and 400 times per day, it would be impossible to figure out if she really did predict such-and-such a news development two weeks earlier. The gullible believed her.

LOL she's still doing it, I see. "I reported exclusively that you were under investigation *as a party* by the FBI for taking Russian money in April, 2017" she tweeted, and linked to a blog post she wrote where she claimed Orrin Hatch was about to become president.

Unbelievable that people bought into her crap. I do notice she gets a fraction of the likes and engagement she used to just a year ago, though.

r6....Bullshit.....try reading "Mr. Putin, Lets play chess"...published BEFORE the Inauguration. ..she nailed all the shit about Guilliani and the NY FBI and Trump and his minions before anyone would go near it....and suddenly the media is talking about it....2 years later.

BuzzFeed update from five minutes ago:

We're now allowed back on the floor where DC Circuit arguments were taking place, but the courtroom area is locked and no official confirmation yet that arguments are over. No spottings of note so far (your court press corps is spread out around the building and outside)

link for r8....

Everybody and their fucking dog knew about Giuliani before the [italic] election, [/italic] let alone before the inauguration. He admitted about 10 days before the election on a news show that the FBI told him about the Comey letter in advance, and that he told Trump's team.

And you are so fucked in the head if you think the media is only talking about this NOW, "two years later."

[QUOTE]We're now allowed back on the floor where DC Circuit arguments were taking place, but the courtroom area is locked and no official confirmation yet that arguments are over.

So this is nothing? Thanks, OP.

Malcolm....go suck Jamalis cock...its what you do.....still upset that Mensch outed your buddy as working for Flynn and publicly called him out on it ?

[quote]And that's a wrap, a court employee just walked out of the courtroom area and confirmed arguments on the sealed grand jury matter have ended. No sightings so far (there are ways for people to enter/exit the courthouse that are not public)

This needed a thread?

We'll find out soon enough, R15.

The verdict is already in, R16. The answer is No!

The courtroom doors will be opened by Geraldo Rivera, and he will discover an empty Coca-Cola bottle.

"You ARE the father!"

Chair-throwing ensues.

I thought it might be interesting. Anyone who doesn't approve can fuck off!

What does Seth Abramson say? Until I hear from Seth Abramson, I don't know what to think.

Not everything on DL has to register 8 point on the Richter scale. Thanks for posting OP.

I felt a momentary stirring in my loins. For that I'm grateful, OP. I'm so ready for something earth shatteringly crushing to befall Trump & co.

I'm sure Abramson will soon post a 47-tweet thread addressing the subject, R21.

Aw, for all my joshing I do find the topic interesting, OP. And I got some value out of it: I learned at least one DLer on this thread shares my distrust of a journalist who frequently tweets.

I'd be gratified and satisfied today if a few people came to a consensus on what this DC circuit hearing was about and wrote narratives based on hearsay and wishful thinking.

guys, it's time for some game theory

Noooooooooo r26!!!!

"Today's sealed hearing proves that Trump was colluding with 37 different hostile foreign countries. I hope you'll read and share. 1/477"

R24 47? Hah! It will be 173! A new record!

Rachel Maddow has been following this story....she will no doubt talk about it tonight.....and yes, this story could be HUGE.

I would guess it isn't often an entire floor gets sealed.

Locking down the entire floor can't be standard procedure.

I think you're on to something OP! Big news by end-of-day I hope.

I think we’re all anxious... I would love this to be something big, but I’m not sure about the precedent for shutting down a floor. I mean, what if it’s a Jolie/Pitt hearing? Or a Justin Bieber hearing? I’m at a loss, as you see. Is there anyone who has any real insight as to when they do this?

Could have been a silverfish infestation.

or the DC Circuit courthouse happening may be about Dotard's tax records

[quote] The verdict is already in, [R16]. The answer is No!

Computer agrees.

[QUOTE]or the DC Circuit courthouse happening may be about Dotard's tax records

I prefer R35’s silverfish infestation theory

Yeah whatever happened was considered very sensitive to block off an entire floor, we just have no idea what happened. OP was in the right in alerting people.

they would not block off the floor for tax returns but thanks for the link, r36. That is something to keep an eye out for.

Loise Mensch is like one of those scam artists who claim they can predict the future, because they predicted that the sun would rise in the morning and it turned out to be true. She needs to do better than that to be considered credible.

R41 - broken clocks are correct twice a day.

Yes, but that doesn't mean you rely on a broken clock to tell you the time, r42 ...

Good one, r43

Dad got a jury duty notice to appear for the federal grand jury in Alexandria, VA for right after the new year.

He's over 70, so he can get it excused, but he's going cause he's hoping to get in on the show. Hah.

Go, r45's dad!

Make him give you a full report!

To be honest I would love to do jury duty just to experience it first hand. People say it's boring, but you may win the jackpot and get called for an interesting case.

R47, and then you can write a book about your experience and cash in!

Even an interesting case turns boring when sitting on its jury.

R42 Not if it's a broken clock radio with "AM" or "PM" on the display -- then it's only right once.

[quote]To be honest I would love to do jury duty just to experience it first hand. People say it's boring, but you may win the jackpot and get called for an interesting case.

Or you could get stuck in sequester with a mime and a lady with no lips.

R50 = poster child for Asperger's Awareness

Has it something to do with the secret envelopes that were handed out at Bush's funeral?

What envelopes?

If you didn’t get one, you don’t need to know.

r54 These envelopes.

Why would Mother get one?!

Louise Mensch. Blech.

All the envelopes went to wives. The secret service did not hand one to W, Laura had it, she shows it to Jeb. Biden's wife hands her's to him.

Just like Crazy Rich Asians!, r26!

Intriguing. Please keep us posted OP!

I didn’t get shit.

Not even peanuts?

It is Friday, after all

Let’s not kid ourselves. This is of course for something Big related to Trump. However, by the time we find out we will be focused on the 500 calamities de jour that we will forget about this too.

Just indict the mother fucker already!!!!

This is about Trump fighting a supoena about obstruction of justice. Watch.

Agreed. Expect Trump to name Kanye as he CoS about the same time as the documents get unsealed.

[quote]Just indict the mother fucker already!!!!

For what exactly?

Politico is saying it’s related to the Mueller case. If so...it has to be Pence or Trump.

R66, meant to add, it looks like you may be right.

CNN saw Zainab Ahmad and Michael Dreeben return in car to SCO office shortly after mystery grand jury witness arguments wrapped.

Ahmad is a federal prosecutor on loan to SCO from NY. She normally focuses on prosecuting terrorists but has been overseeing the Flynn investigation.

What's SCO?

SCO = Special Counsel Office

Oooo! I want to make lez lez with Ahmad! She is smocking hawt!

Rumors on legal twitter are it's about whether Pence will be forced to testify on the Russian shitstorm.

So what's the latest word

Would would have happen if Pence is asked to testify but sends a written note of him pleading the fifth for all questions he'd be asked in that interview (either before knowing the actual questions or after he receided the questions beforehand in written form)?

So sorry, ... or after he RECEIVED the questions beforhand in written form

argh. beforehand

I can't believe someone brought up the envelopes in this thread, too. Dvida, I suppose.

There are theories on Twitter that this was about Assange. Also, per documents filed, it looks like the court ruled for Mueller in whatever motion this was, so I assume that means we'll find out relatively quickly what this was about.

Country A. Corporation A.

[quote] LouiseMensch is saying it's Mike Pence

Louise blows it again

so what's the story?

Mueller prevailed in asking for Corporation A's financial records. Corporation A is a business wholly owned by Country A.

The court set a $5k/day fine. Corporation A has a presence in the US.

It is Mueller following the money and getting Trump financial documents.

Money laundering?

My guess:

Country A is Germany

Company A is Duetsche Bank

It's the Gazprom stock deal that was allegedly discussed at the Trump Tower meeting with Manafort. Gazprom executives have ties to Carter Page and executives live in Trump Tower..

We're talking about this over here too, for what it's worth.

Deutsche Bank is NOT owned by Germany, and people need to stop suggesting it as a possibility. It's privately owned. The company in question is owned by a country.

Sorry, r87. I did not know that.

Could be... who knows...

There's something due any day

I will know right away

Soon as it shows!

Thanks for the link to the other thread, r87.

Alpha Bank

VTB whatever that is. And Deripaska is off the restricted list.

And the appeal...