Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59)

Link to previous thread for reference:

Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

When will it Be Mushroom Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/21/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

Great image OP. Cheers

Part 59, eh? Golly, this sure looks like the beginning of the end for Drumpf!

You people are sadly deluded. Mueller will fizzle and Trump will be re-elected.

You sound worried.

Do you prefer coward?

OP lmfao I love the titles of these threads. I dunno if you've made all of them but either you or you and whoever else, well done! Adds some comedy to these scary and crazy times

It's amazing that these threads have grown to the point where even listing their titles requires two posts.

More news about sore Republican losers, please, who don't like it when all the votes are counted.

[quote]Call Me Boris, You Will Anyway

Not a chance.

Those Republicans have no shame and dignity. They may act all high almighty but no dirty trick to stay in power is too dirty for them. And they cry like babies when people call them out on their lies and shady dealings.

LMAO at RIck Scott accusing Bill Nelson of voter fraud.

You would know FRAUD when you see it Rick, wouldn't you?

I know this isn't the subject of this thread but I just have to post this;

What happened to the DANGEROUS caravan heading for the border that Trump wouldn't stop screaming about before the mid-terms?

Did the "threat" just evaporate once last Tuesday's elections were over?

And now there are troops on the border who will be there waiting for weeks for this "big" "bad" caravan to arrive. All because Trump needed a conspiracy to help his party in the mid-terms.

And his deplorable followers just ate it all up.

I fucking hate these people.

Bump

[quote]And now there are troops on the border who will be there waiting for weeks for this "big" "bad" caravan to arrive. All because Trump needed a conspiracy to help his party in the mid-terms.

It's a disgrace: Troops at the border are sleeping in tents that house 20 soldiers and have no electricity or air conditioning, with some suffering heat exhaustion within days of starting the mission. There's no mess hall — only pre-made "Ready-to-Eat" meals — and the only phone chargers available are attached to "a few generators that power spotlights around the living area." Department of Defense officials worry that if the number of troops increases to 15,000, the cost could be as high as $200 million.

When Trump was suppose to be at the cemetery in France to honor our soldiers...he was meeting with Putin. What a scumbag.

Well, R16, he actually didn’t. The French asked him not to because it would be a distraction from the ceremonies for the war dead. And Trump was no doubt pissed by that.

He met with Putin, troll, per Putin boasting about it himself.

Trump skipped the memorial because: 1. He couldn't be first in the motorcade, 2. they grounded the helicopter and he couldn't make a big splashy entrance, 3. he's a fucking fraud and a traitor to the memories of those me and what they fought for and he knows it.

^R18 Also Trump did not want to be outside in damp weather because of his "hair". Donnie D. even noted such today on Morning Joe.

Also, he might have used up his finite amount of steps prematurely and started sapping his life force.

Macron seated them far apart at the dinner because he didn't want them distracting from the purpose of the gathering. That has been established. But the two did manage to get together for a more private meeting very discreetly before the Sunday events. In fact when Trump and Vlad saw one another in public for the thumbs up, I bet it was because Trump probably asked Vlad about something, and Vlad said he had to check and get back to him, but when he gave the thumbs up he was "telling" Trump all was well and they'd move forward. Now WTF that means about the threat of Mueller's investigation, or the Media, or the elections, or trade deals, or whether Trump shared top secret intelligence information, etc. is anyone's guess.

I do believe something big is going down this week either because indictments are unsealed by some judge, or because Whitaker does something stupid andgets exposed. It's almost inevitable.

[quote]I don’t know Matt Whitaker, Matt Whitaker worked for Jeff Sessions and he was extremely highly thought of and he still is. But I didn’t know Matt Whitaker.

These self-serving lies just keep gushing out of Trump's festering blabbergob.

Something is up. Some rumors of new indictments being revealed.

As of now, Kyrsten Sinema is ahead by 32,000 vote for the Arizona senator race. That would almost put her in the senate seat. I don't think McSaddly can make up the difference now. Hopefully we in Arizona will have a democrat for senator, the first since 1995.

[quote]Something is up. Some rumors of new indictments being revealed.

I'll give YOU a buck-fifty if this is never posted on the DL again.

It's also amazing that people are still going, "Ooh, you should do A Man For All Treasons or I'm Treason on a Jet Plane next!"

Surprise, surprise!

NYT: In North Korea, Missile Bases Suggest a Great Deception

[quote]North Korea is moving ahead with its ballistic missile program at 16 hidden bases that have been identified in new commercial satellite images, a network long known to American intelligence agencies but left undiscussed as President Trump claims to have neutralized the North’s nuclear threat.

[quote]The existence of the ballistic missile bases, which North Korea has never acknowledged, contradicts Mr. Trump’s assertion that his landmark diplomacy is leading to the elimination of a nuclear and missile program that the North had warned could devastate the United States.

But... but... the great dealmaker....

Dumbass

Player done got played. So is this provocation for an attack now? Is this the event he'll use? "We've been betrayed!" he'll scream and retaliate just to save face.

I'd laugh if this wasn't about nuclear weapons.

Oh, look, the incredibly obvious thing that most of us thinking people knew would happen has actually happened.

No, I refuse to look, make him stop! MAGA?

Miz Lindz is such a military hawk and has previously delivered ultimatum talk when it comes to N. Korea. But she will not say anything for a long time now, that doesn't sound favorable to Trump.

From the last thread:

[quote]Nader's House Committee and/or Adam Schiff's House Committee will subpoena Trump's tax returns directly from the IRS and make them available to the media and for the public view. Trump can't stop it. Those return will reveal much. Trump may try to prevent it, but doubtful any court will rule against a Congressional subpoena where there's precedence.. Trump will have a meltdown about it.

It's even better than that. It will be Maxine Waters' House Committee.

[quote]It's even better than that. It will be Maxine Waters' House Committee.

Comb-overs and wigs will fly!

Everything Trump and the GOP do is put distractions out there. Oh, look over there! Now, look over there! OMG! Take a look at THAT! They basically turn the political arena into a bloody Las Vegas strip with eye blinding neon signs all over the place where you can't see what's really going on. And the media is willingly playing along, because people must be kept informed about all these distractions for clicks, for ratings, for - well - remaining distracted.

[quote]And now there are troops on the border

Are there, though?

Ones that weren't there before the Scaravan election concoction?

it's The Ways & Means Committee that will be subpoenaing Trump's taxes, not Maxine Waters. I forget the guy's name who'll head that but he'll become high-profile starting next year

Call me crazy, but what if these troops are trapped at the border for the simple reason so they can't be somewhere else? I mean Trump is BFF with Eric Prince, the guy who runs the Blackwater private army business organisation (who's also Betsy Devos' brother). With Trump even the craziest conspiracy theory is possible these days.

I live for the day Nunes is called to pay for his treachery. Falsifying gov't testimony is just one charge I can think of....

I live for the day Nunes is called to pay for his treachery. Falsifying gov't testimony is just one charge I can think of....

[quote]it's The Ways & Means Committee that will be subpoenaing Trump's taxes, not Maxine Waters. I forget the guy's name who'll head that but he'll become high-profile starting next year

Waters will head the Banking Committee, which oversees the IRS. Ways and Means is in charge of tax and budget policy, like Medicare and Social Security.

The other ones to watch out for are also the awesome Elijah Cummings' Oversight Committee, Nadler's Judiciary, and Schiff's intelligence.

anyone else getting delayed postings and such today? Sorry for the double post, but the DL said they couldn't create it and then they did....

Hel-LO, Senator Sinema.

The troops won’t get to eat thanksgiving with their families.

Repugs love to rip up families.

Well, Trump's most favorite words for the next two years will remain "witch hunt!". Great.

Reporter: Mr. Trump, ...

Trump: Witch hunt! THIS IS A WITCH HUNT!

Reporter: ... ... I didn't ... (even finish my sentence)

Trump: THIS IS A WITCH HUNT!

-------

House Representative: Mr. Trump ...

Trump: Witch Hunt! WITCH HUNT! WIIIIIIITCH HUNT!

One thing I am really glad about is that they've been perfectly clear they're not going to let corruption go unchecked any more. I know there was some modest stuff done after 2006, like hearings about Valerie Plame and some minor hearings about officials in the Bush administration violating the Hatch Act. But no one wanted the Iraq War to be re-litigated.

This stuff is not being taken lying down.

Maxine Waters said she'll be leading the investigation into Deutsche Bank and why they're the only bank that will loan Trump

Well it did merit repeating r44!

So the stock market is tanking and Dotard's response is that it's all because of Democrats harassing him... HAHAHAHA.

we have not yet begun to "harass"!

Last night I was at a family birthday party. My brother-in-law, a Foxhead, said that he had friends who were on the dark web--and learned that Guantanamo is being "updated and refurbished" because1) there are about to me massive arrests, and 2) the people who are about to be sent there will undergo military tribunals instead of trials in the US court system.

I asked "Who, the Republicans who conspired with Russia to get Trump elected?"

He was FLOORED--his mouth actually dropped open. Then he said "No, no--they are going to be arresting so many people within the FBI and Justice Department that it will leave our country in shambles."

I could't think of anything to say to that other than to ask about the grandkids.

[quote]Then he said "No, no--they are going to be arresting so many people within the FBI and Justice Department

Oh, yeah.... must be out of the NY office. You know the ones that conspired along with Ghouliani to get Drumpf elected.

Breaking something-something

R53, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Trump and his co-conspirators will start rounding up dissenters and political "enemies." He's already shown how paranoid and deceitful he is with attacks on the Justice department. His persecution of McCabe was particularly vicious. If he could have thrown him in jail he would have. He likes to "punish" his "enemies." DO I think he'd try to arrest everyone he is concerned about at the DoJ? No. But I will bet you a dollar for a donut, that he has thought about something just as crazy. Your brother-in-law is crazy....but he isn't crazy...ya know?

What r53 describes sounds more like some Deplorable's "Deep State" ramblings where Trump needs to be protected from these Liberal Nazis who use their power in the House to hurt Trump and his allies. Like the Democratic Party will re-open Guantanamo to bring their enemies in there including Trump, jr holding him hostage so Trump may step down.

Subpoena cannon coming.

[quote]Subpoena cannon coming.

I heard it described today as a t-shirt cannon loaded with subpoenas

R55 may have something to do with this story. Not Mueller- or election-related, but juicy all the same.

I don't trust Axios too much anymore. They're the ones who put it out that Rosenstein was going to the WH to be fired, remember? And I also recall the WH coming up with its own list of things they thought either Mueller or the Democrats could go after Trump for..

Michael Cohen and his lawyer, Petrillo, take train from NYC to DC to meet with Mueller's team, on a federal holiday at that.

Jonathan Swan (Axios) is a smug little fuck who cozies up to the GOP like a little brown-nosing whore.

^^^^THIS^^^^

Agree^^

Breaking on Twitter now that an indictment is about to come down for former InfoWars contributor/Roger Stone pal Jerome Corsi. Apparently for perjury.

Josh Barro: Incidentally, the principle that you shouldn't assume something Jerome Corsi says is true also applies to a claim from Corsi that he's about to be indicted.

I don't think of it as a subpoena cannon. More like a subpoena cluster bomb. No escape.

Pres Tre45on aka Pres Bone Spurs is going to clash in orange.

Corsi: Being interrogated by Mueller's team is like the Gestapo, KGB, or North Korea

R70 The only context where "Gestapo, KGB, or North Korea" sound good.

So apparently Drumpf is out there demanding "new elections," in areas where Rethugs lost.

Can we get a new election for 2016 then?

[quote]My brother-in-law, a Foxhead, said that he had friends who were on the dark web--and learned that Guantanamo is being "updated and refurbished" because1) there are about to me massive arrests, and 2) the people who are about to be sent there will undergo military tribunals instead of trials in the US court system.

Wow, when things don't happen the way they think it will I picture their heads exploding like Scanners.

No r73.....theyll continue to believe it will happen, or that the deep state blocked it. Thats part of the delusion. Look at Clinton nutcases and the shit they spew and have been spewing for decades. One would think after 30 years and untold investigations, they would come out of the ether....but nope. And they wonder why we mock them.

We just need a few dozen more investigations into the Clintons and we'll find something to nail them for eventually!

And there you have it.....Kirsten Gillibrand is running for president in 2020. She truly is deaf to the fact that a lot of people blame her for what happened to Franken. I for one saw right through her grandstanding when it happened and said she was planning on running then.

Prediction: Indictments could start tomorrow! Cheeto is going wild on twitter that means something is up. Oh and he hid away on Veterans Day...? Wonder why Donny is so riled....

Well shit.

R78 doesn’t surprise me. He’s hoping drumpf’s new attorney general will rescue him.

Deplorables always conveniently "block out," shit that they scream about and never comes to fruition. Notice how they all stopped screaming about the Caravan?

R79 Mueller has the Dem House coming in as re-enforcement. The lines are being drawn for next year.

Mueller has been indicted on 8 counts, correct? If he stops cooperating couldn't Mueller just have his ass thrown in jail?

Just askin'

Make that "Manafort has been indicted on 8 counts" not Mueller in above post.

He was found guilty by the trial jury, R83. Not just indicted.

Manafort is already convicted and in jail, as I recall. He's probably hoping Trump and the new Attorney General can end the Mueller investigation once and for all (a tall order in itself for these incompetent asshats) and then Trump can pardon him and get him out.

He was convicted of 8 counts at his first trial....he pled guilty to the charges....and to the 10 counts that were hung in the first trial...before the second trial began. His plea deal basically limits his prison time to 10 years for cooperating. If he backs out of the deal, he goes away for the rest of his life and probably the next.

New York can prosecute Manafort under state law. I don't think the DOJ can help him on those.

Neither US DOJ nor the 🍄 can help Manafort in NY state courts.

When have Trumpies ever cared about reality... they put all their faith in Dear Leader, who will make things all better by hook or more likely by crook.

It's like they have been brainwashed.

Well, they’re in for a very rude awakening.

It's ok.. whatever their nightmare, it'll somehow be Hillary's fault.

Kirstjen Nielsen's Collapse is Complete! Dump is planning on dumping her in the next few weeks.

well the problem is that the Trump base/cult/stan group hear the propaganda and lies from Trump/his administration and THEN they hear it being reinforced on fucking Fox "News".. For those of you who haven't seen any Fox clips, you'll often hear stuff like "you won't hear this on the fake news liberal leftist mainstream media " (which of course means it's bs but the viewers think Fox is the only truthful "news" outlet). They truly think the mainstream media hides the real facts from them and Fox is the only honest one. They think all mainstream media has "a liberal bias" and that their side is the "good side". They have no idea that assholes like Hannity, Pirro, Ingraham, Dobs etc are all lying to them and prey on their stupidity. Trump does the same. They are a brainwashed bunch. They're convinced that any scandal involving repub politicians are "fake" and invented by the left to take them down unfairly. Some of these people will NEVER be convinced otherwise

and now you even have some of those Fox hosts like Hannity using OUR language for them to describe the real news.

Just last week I caught a clip of Hannity saying "CNN, MSNBC, ABC they're all fake news and are doing a disservice to their viewers by giving them misinformation". Do you know dangerous shit like this is? I don't know how Hannity and those like him sleep at night or look themselves in the mirror. It is truly disgusting.

As viewers we should be entitled to the expectation that a channel labeled "news" will accurately report the news. Fox preys on the right wing bias of its viewers. They obviously want to hear positive "news" about repubs so they will trust a channel liike Fox that has a repub bias to it. They therefore do not question what is "reported" on there. It's very sick and the majority of those working at Fox are just despicable people.

Trump would not have as effective of a message if he didn't have Fox backing him up.

It's infuriating that fake news (and the idiots who believe it) got us into this mess, only for the term "fake news" to be perverted to mean any news that Trump and his enablers don't like.

Blame conservative think tanks who come up with such "creative" name branding.

You mean the White Heritage Foundation?

Hoping these sources are correct.

I hope the next thread is Treason of the Son because R99's link is correct and JR gets his today.

Mueller doesn't leak. So if this is true it is coming from someone who knows someone who will be indicted. I hope the "someone" is Donnie, Jr's ex-wife....the one who is holding all the money for him.

CNN is officially suing over the Jim Acosta incident.

If they do indict Jr. I hope it's for something serious not just because he lied to a grand jury. I'd hate to see him just get 30 days in jail for lying.

Good for them, R102. Where is the rest of the media? They should not attend anymore of these WH briefings. BOycott! It's not like the briefings generate any thing important.

R102 Thank you for that update!

At any given time I wonder how many lawsuits are pending against Donny Darko Dotard? He doesn't pay his employees or business partners. He cheats. He lies. We have no clue what is on his tax returns. He tries to silence his mistresses. He consorts with Putie.

Enough!

[quote]At any given time I wonder how many lawsuits are pending against Donny Darko Dotard?

Who cares? I won't pay any judgments either!

Was it Jr's wife that was working for Dotard? The one that was making calls to people like Omarosa offering them contracts and money when they "resigned?"

[quote]Was it Jr's wife that was working for Dotard?

Working? A member of that family? Working?

R107, I believe it was Eric's wife, Lara that was responsible for those offers.

I wonder if Mueller realizes how high our hopes are, how desperate for relief we are? Truly, this is agony. I hate this whole administration and the Republican leadership so much!

[quote]I wonder if Mueller realizes how high our hopes are, how desperate for relief we are?

I hope that is the farthest thing from his mind.

[quote]Where is the rest of the media? They should not attend anymore of these WH briefings. BOycott!

No, they should hang in there. They should assert their 1st Amendment function. Boycotting will mean not doing their job and constitutional function.

And the White House Correspondents' Association supports the lawsuit.

Part of the battle is probably psychological. Doing this so slow and meticulously is driving Trump out of his mind. The more unhinged he becomes, the more the public sees how unfit, even certifiably insane, Trump is. Trump is being surrounded and cornered into a small space....slowly. The one thing Donnie wanted to do is declare himself a Dictator and we just are not willing to play along. He’s squirming under a microscope and a bright light will soon shine on his subversive tratorious acts and this, with his growing rage, is his downfall. Mueller is a genuinely intelligent man. Donnie is just a bloviated ego with a gold toilet.

Mueller will certainly have noted the denunciations from one such as ex-CIA head John Brennan - whose critical words have matched the harshest (clean) posts seen daily on DL.

Fascinating though to consider how Mueller mixes with his peers. Family and friends. It's the most incredibly volatile time in American politics. Mueller's in the hottest of seats. Does The Subject never come up? It has to be the hugest of elephants in the room, in this case all too close an analogy. (Trump is the elephant in everyone's room. Part of him loves that.) But Mueller can't go there. Incredible pressure. Maybe a Nobel Peace Prize awaits.

It's interesting that in the past when Drumpf wanted to get rid of someone he made them act like they were leaving of their own accord. That's changed with Sessions and Nielson's departures, right?

OR is the Nielson thing just a fake distraction?

Trump loves humiliating people. His best happiest moments on The Apprentice" were when he yelled" You're fired!!!" In the case of Sessions' firing and the Whitaker appointment, he has fucked up. He is breaking the law.

Omarosa outright says he has zero empathy for anyone and purposefully manipulates situations in order set up fights between people, including his own family members. She says he gets a charge from it. Causing rage in others makes him happy. In other words, he’s a psychopath.

R103 False testimony to a Grand Jury is a felony and is way more than a 30-day sentence. The feds take lying to them very seriously and Mueller is no exception. JR apparently also lied to a Congressional committee while under oath.

Lying to the FBI is what got Martha Stewart convicted, not the insider trading matter.

Apparently Jared was comparatively more candid about his role in the saga, and perhaps may not be pursued on the lying angle. He employed excellent lawyers at the get-go. That doesn't mean he's in the clear with the conspiracy stuff and related criminal activity that may be uncovered.

The lawyer representing CNN and Jim Acosta in the suit is none other than Ted Olson.

Sarah Sanders responds with some dismissive snorting

The next indictments will be outlyers....Stone, Corso......Jr, et al will come later.

Heh. I’m glad she will now get her chance to snort her way through a court case.

SHS is beast, and I hope history is incredibly unkind to her.

Her God has been unkind to her too. Just look at her. More importantly, she is ugly inside too. A very mean-spirited, disrespectful thing.

Some of you are so fucking stupid, acting as if Trump is just a normal president and will naturally be in office in 2020. Trump is a criminal and our country will be pretty much dead if he is still in office in 2020.

Well, genetics certainly was, r123!

Smell the troll at R125.

I have been familiar with Trump for many years and I never once thought he was a good or reasonable individual. He has always been a cheating criminal.

And now John Kelly is leaving. What a shit show. He’s horrible, but I suspect an even more sinister replacement is in the future.

But don't they throw this out there every few months?

Not specifically Mueller-related, but Trump Shit Show-related:

[quote]A new report from the Wall Street Journal claims that President Donald Trump is firing a top national security official at least in part because she got into a fight with First Lady Melania Trump over plane seats.

Also from that article:

[quote]“Kelly has also sparred with the East Wing over travel arrangements for the first lady’s staff,” NBC News reports. “He often wouldn’t reserve space for Melania Trump’s two aides on Air Force One or on helicopters. They would find themselves without hotel rooms and not listed for motorcade movements.”

LOL what a bunch of little bitches.

Melania is completely worthless. I’m thankful that all that “Free Melania” bullshit had been put to rest and her complicity in this Administration is now openly discussed.

Kelly is probably fucking Melania.

Hope Drumpf walks in on them.

From another thread:

Latest: The media are setting up cameras & equipment outside of the federal courthouse in Washington, D.C.

They have been told a grand jury will convene shortly associated with the Mueller investigation.

Are we taking bets?

My money is on cross eyed cyclops stone.

Let’s see what fake attorney general does now.

George Papadopoulos's lawyers have filed a motion to withdraw from his case.

r138...because he hired new lawyers who believe his conspiracy bs.....he better think twice or hell be going to prison for a hell of a lot longer than 2 weeks.

Mufsad is apparently alive and is negotiating to come to the US and testify before the Senate IC.......10:1 if he does, hell be arrested by the FBI.

I have to wonder if Mueller revised his time table know as we all suspected, that Sessions' days were numbered and most likely Trump was going to try to stop or fire Mueller. The Kvanaugh nomination and hearings had to give Mueller pause. It was clear that Trump stuck with Kvanaugh, in fact nominated him even though he was told Kavanaugh would be the most difficult to pass, for two reasons: He felt sure Kvanaugh would support him based on past opinions and comments; and the bonus of Kavanaugh being a Clinton hater who worked for Ken Starr made him very attractive. Trump is a small malicious piece of shit. His own antipathy towards the Bushes was overcome, and he managed to get past t hat because of the Ken Starr connection.

Sorry for the typos, I was going to add that Mueller may have revised his time table to move up the indictments of the inner circle.

Oh, I thought Papadopoulos was cooperating with Mueller. Guess not anymore?

Papadopolous was already sentenced....hes trying to withdraw his deal before he has to report to prison. It should be noted that Mueller said Pap really didnt cooperate, he gave misleading info, and he covered for Mufsad so he could get away. Also noted, Paps could still be indicted for the actual conspiracy stuff...he was so far, only indicted for lying to the FBI. Like with Manafort and Flynn and the others, ther are multiple charges he could be facing down the road. Does anyone really believe the only thing Flynn is facing are perjury charges ?

Who was Musfad again? There's just too many people involved in this thing.

Waiting for the big surprise...

Do the math. It will take 15 or16 Republicans in the Senate to turn on Trump and agree to dump him. As of now, no more than 2 could be mustered, and that would be with immense pressure from constituents.

George Pap is a little retard. And I will never believe that his wife is “Italian.” Wasn’t there some gossip about George’s family trying to turn her in to authorities?

When the shit hits the fan, they will turn on Trump in a heartbeat.....count on it. The ones that dont will be facing their own indictments and/or career suicide.

R146 "as soon as Tuesday". Is the Business Insider referencing today or next Tuesday? Read the article at age of 3 hours.

Loving this ongoing blue wave. Cannot wait until traitor-tot Don Jr. et al, get indicted.

reply 124 Picasso face.

[quote] As of now, no more than 2 could be mustered, and that would be with immense pressure from constituents.

I'll consider it. I promise to publicly agonize over it for weeks and weeks before coming to the decision to stick with the republican pack. I promise to act all morally tortured and conflicted about my decision.

David Rothkopf’s Twitter thread on Melania is a thing of beauty. He nails that worthless piece of Slovenian shit TO THE WALL.

Thanks r154, that was a great read.

REUTERS:

Trump could answer written Russia probe questions this week -source

[quote]Trump could answer written Russia probe questions this week -source

Someone needs to buy him new box of crayons

Are they still looking for a kindergarten teacher to decipher it once he does, R156?

I still want to know what happened with the 300 attorneys that Rosenstein "summoned" to DC supposedly for Kavanaughs confirmation.

R145, it's Mifsud, the guy who told Papadopoulos that the Russians had Hillz emails.

A lot of these guys believe that Trump is going to pardon them. They have seen his moves: Kavanaugh on the bench and more importantly, Whitaker at DoJ. Trump, Manafort, the Trump family, all of those fuckers think their indictment-proof. And even if they plead guilty they get pardoned for keeping their mouths shut. None of them believe they will spend much time, if any, in prison. For our sake I hope they're wrong. I hope all of them burn in Hell.

Trump will be named as a co-conspirator in each and every one of these cases and he can't pardon co-conspirators.

R162 I don’t think that’s true. I wish it were—I’ve seen some discussion around this and would love it if someone who knows about presidential pardons can chime in.

Sénatrice,

Have you, yourself, ever had an encounter with Pee Pee Girls, grabbed a pussy, fucked a porn star or Playboy bunny, participated in a Devil's Triangle, or lined-up in a fraternity train?

Mueller might be making plans for Nigel.

R153. You nailed it! That is exactly what that old hag will do. But let's hope the old gas bag doesn't give a 40 minute speech on the floor of the senate explaining her moral anguish.

She can shove her moral anguish up her GOP ass. No one is fooled by mz maine anymore.

for you R154...

I enjoyed his cutting of that bitch right down to size, R168. He's dead on.

Another one of Cheeto's "Best People" indicted, in Alabama.

...and as Rachel pointed out, there are federal charges that should go along with the state charges, but , since Jeff Sessions is implicated, the fed case was probably quashed.

I posted this on the "Crazy Rant" thread, but wanted to bring it over here too. A WaPo article had this bit of info:

"During Sunday’s flight to Washington from Paris, aides filed into the president’s private cabin to lobby against the leading contender to replace Kelly, Nick Ayers, who is Vice President Pence’s chief of staff. These aides told Trump that appointing Ayers would lower staff morale and perhaps trigger an exodus. But the president has continued to praise Ayers, who also enjoys the support of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, according to multiple White House officials."

Wasn't Nick Ayers the top guess (at least on DL) for the NYTimes anonymous Op-ed?

I heard someone say...or speculate that Trump didn't go to Arlington because he allegedly spent all day Monday, Veterans Day meeting with his lawyers to go over the answers to the written questions Mueller sent. While talking about that, they remarked that allegedly Mueller waived the obstruction line of questioning and focused on collusion related issues. Now I find that very hard to believe. The obstruction was so frequent, so in your face, I cannot see Mueller waiving the right to prosecute Trump on that.

R173, it’s been reported that Trump is refusing to answer any questions about obstruction, not that Mueller has waived anything.

R173 it doesn’t mean Mueller is waiving the charges. He may have what he needs already.

1....take any reports of written questions with a grain of salt....thats all coming from the white house....MUELLER DOESNT LEAK.

2. Mueller has Trump dead to rights on obstruction...

Nick Ayers is insanely ambitious. He has to know it’d be better to stick with Ms. Pence than to get into Trump's shit-stained circle.

Wasn't Ayers the guy everyone thought wrote that op/ed piece for the NYT as Anonymous?

yes.

You mean Nick Ayers, the one that Pence blows?

Am I nuts, or is Nick Ayers rocking a junior, well maintained version of Donald's hairdo in this photo? Does Pence close or cross his eyes and think of the boss when he goes down on him?

R181 Horrifying! Yet hilarious!

For weeks this fall, an ebullient President Trump traveled relentlessly to hold raise-the-rafters campaign rallies — sometimes three a day — in states where his presence was likely to help Republicans on the ballot.

But his mood apparently has changed as he has taken measure of the electoral backlash that voters delivered Nov. 6. With the certainty that the incoming Democratic House majority will go after his tax returns and investigate his actions, and the likelihood of additional indictments by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, Trump has retreated into a cocoon of bitterness and resentment, according to multiple administration sources.

Behind the scenes, they say, the president has lashed out at several aides, from junior press assistants to senior officials. “He’s furious,” said one administration official. “Most staffers are trying to avoid him.”

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, painted a picture of a brooding president “trying to decide who to blame” for Republicans’ election losses, even as he publicly and implausibly continues to claim victory.

What do all the vet groups say about him skipping Arlington? He can’t blame that one on Marcon.

That’s so shady and disrespectful.

Was there ever a consensus on who wrote the Op-Ed?

There was no definite consensus but it was generally thought to come from Pence's camp. I can't remember what the motives were supposed to be but given Ayers level of ambition it makes sense. Play from every side...?

About R183, who in their right mind wants to work in a White House with a hysterical ninny ranting at them every day? Why? They can already put “White House” on their resume. I can’t imagine the emotional abuse those people are living through.

The longer they stay, the more likely they’re going to have to hire lawyers for their interviews with Mueller. It’s not like the staff is making huge salaries.

My guess is by now even the dyed in the wool Trumpers realize he’s an abusive personality. Why not run for the hills?

Something that happened this weekend made me think about the op-ed author, specifically what I perceived as the oddly "youthful" enthusiasm in the writing. Can't remember exactly why it ran through my mind now, but maybe because of all of the high profile op-eds against Whitaker, including Kellyanne Conway's husband, made me WEHT?

Hah! That was unintentional. But yes it did that too!

[quote]Does Pence close or cross his eyes and think of the boss when he goes down on him?

Of course not... he thinks of himself!!!

Look at other photos of Ayers. . . Pence no doubt thinks of Ayers as a younger, more virile, version of his younger self!

c'mon Daddy Mueller give us the indictments we've been yearning for!

[quote]Trump is refusing to answer any questions about obstruction

Obstructive about obstruction. Impressive tactics from the stable genius.

Mifsud has been missing since Nov 17.

Whoa, R192. You better warn him! Only three days left! Hurry.

WEHT is wrong in DL!

Mueller does not need Trump to answer questions...he is just play with the big oaf.

I would think Mueller has enough information on obstruction just from Rump's tweets and public behavior.

November last year, dummy @ R193.

Trump's lawyers gave Mueller that ultimatum about Obstruction? They cites something in the Constitution regarding Comey, about the President's right to fire anyone he wants to fire. I have to wonder. If it is so obvious that the Constitution says the POTUS can fire Comey for the hell of it, why all those credible legal experts were saying it was clear cut obstruction of Justice. Because if someone is investigating you and you fire them, because you don't want them to investigate you it seems like that is Obstruction. I have a feeling Trump's lawyers aren't as smart as Mueller.

[quote] it seems like that is Obstruction

That's because it is. He admitted it on national television to Lester Holt when he said that he fired Comey because of the "Russia thing and Trump."

And now Trump has put Whitaker in at Justice because he liked what he was saying on TV talk shows. Which seems like more obstruction...at least it will be the moment Whitaker reaches for Mueller. Here is this lunatic amateur with his convoluted bullshit analysis of the Law and his nonsensical talk about Marbury vs. Madison, and he is going to supervise Robert Mueller? That isn't even hubris. It is sheer madness. Whitaker is nuts. His reach is definitely exceeding his grasp. I guess we should feel grateful for the stupidity. The thing is, a lot of people think Trump is dumb. he is not informed. He is not intelligent, but he is street smart and has a low cunning, and he knows how to do things to try to save himself. I think anyone who underestimates his capacity to be evil and crooked and underhanded makes a big mistake.

Just leaving this right here...

R201 That made my morning. How it is done! Lord how I miss him. Thank you.

R202, FYI, it looks like the pic is from 2009 so it may not have happened this past weekend.

R203 You are correct. Obama's hair is more salt and pepper now.

Lindsey declares Whitaker does not need to recuse himself and his appointment was proper. Lindsey also express a willingness to support legislation protecting Mueller. This after he attacked the investigation which he supposedly once supported beforehand.

Sophie Weiner of Splinter apparently doesn't peruse Datalounge, or she would better understand the complications and intricacies that compose Lindsey Graham. ----------------------- On an additional note, the certain Fox News host crowd, have the agenda to urge Whitaker to start DOJ and investigative agencies purges, and initiate political prosecutions of Democrats, and of course again, their old favorite target, HRC.

In that pic in r205, that slim, bearded, uniformed security officer could give that craving of media attention politician, the vapors.

[quote]Lindsey also express a willingness to

suck every republican cock in the USA.

Smellyanne admits they doctored the Acosta video

Propagandist Kellyanne failing to tell the truth again, unfortunately, is not a surprise.

Apparently following Steve Miller's advice and actions will take DJT and the entire WH down.

I can't imagine WH Chief of Staff Kelly wanting anything to do with Miller.

I went in the very busy Waffle House this morning for breakfast.

As walking in, the one waitress I know well, showed an amazing sense of humor. She exclaimed loudly:

"There's chaos in the Waffle House. But it's mild compared to the chaos in the White House. Good morning."

She deserves a much better paying job.

Sometimes I wonder if George Conway is worried that KAC will be charged and is trying to rebrand their family so that the courts will show mercy on her.

Omarosa just told Craig Melvin that "her sources" suggest the WH found who wrote the Resist Letter and quietly sacked them.

But she said this after insinuating yet again that the letter sounded very much like Pence's shop and particularly Nick Ayers who is far from being sacked.

This is a great long-form piece about how Ayers, born poor, has made millions with ethically dubious and legally questionable deals.

A key detail is that he has a malleable Pence under his spell.

Another prescient detail, reported in March, is that Ayers was apparently in consideration for COS even back then.

The Church of Scientology wants Nick Ayers?

The NYT claimed the op-eds author was "high ranking". The only high ranking guy that just left was Jeff Sessions. The media would know about all high ranking firings.

Isn't Nick Ayers being mentioned for the Homeland Security job, but plans to stay with Pence?

Craig Melvin is hot. Damned hot.

Kellyanne Conway has been tight with Rebekah Mercer who funded the Cambridge Analytical endeavors. Steve Bannon was also connected.

Actually, Kellyanne may be "the mole", working to keep herself from being indicted as any co-conspirator.

If it was revealed that KAC has been an informant would not be a surprise.

omfg I'm tired of waiting for more INDICTMENTS

[quote]Kellyanne may be "the mole"

Well, that certainly explains the smell in the West Wing.

[quote]If it was revealed that KAC has been an informant would not be a surprise.

Yes, that wouldn't surprise me at all. Many media folks have acknowledged that she's one of the administration's most prolific leakers.

GIven that, and her husband's in-your-face-opposition to Trump (he announced a new "conservative lawyers agains Trump" initiative this morning) I don't know how she's managed to survive so long.

well remember Mika said that Kellyanne hates Trump and used to speak very badly of him off-camera

r221,...lol...she used to talk badly of him ON CAMERA.....

Yhis is just a sample....there are worse....and many more if you look.

So then the question is, what does Kellyanne have on Trump so that he hasn't gotten rid of her? She is obviously more belligerent than many of the others he's fired. Is she squeezing him like Putin?

R222 Mika was saying after Kellyanne joined Trump's camp she kept bashing him off-camera

R223 same question was asked earlier in this thread. There has to be some shit that she has that won't allow him to fire her.

And the other question is - if she hates him so much why does she continue working for him?

[quote]And the other question is - if she hates him so much why does she continue working for him?

After he's gone, she -- and many others in this misbegotten administration -- will claim that they were the only things standing in between Trump and the Apocalypse. That will burnish her brand in elite Republican circles and drive her fees up higher. She's thinking long term.

Well she continues to work for him because how else would she be where she is? It's not like she'd get a job in any other administration. People who leave or refuse to work for this one have two things: a moral compass and a perspective of their longevity. I didn't remember the question earlier in the thread, although I follow all these threads religiously. Sorry about that, I would have referenced it.

Theres a single word that describes Kellyannes commitment to Trump and why she doesnt leave...and why he wont get rid of her......

MERCER

R228 wasn't Bannon also tired in with Mercer?

R229...YES

Exactly, so why can't Kellyanne be fired or why won't she leave?

There's something more there than just the Mercers.

Seth Abramsons new book is out...Proof of Collusion. Im on chapter 3 and Im stunned. This is a must read and answers A LOT of questions and a lot of info that even we at DL have missed. Trump is going to have a fucking meltdown over it.

Feel free to share the info R232.

Kellanne is on Mercers payroll.....is there more there....yes, she conspired and colluded with the rest of them.....so theres that too....but boil it down to the main reason and it does come back to MERCER.

[quote]After he's gone, she -- and many others in this misbegotten administration -- will claim that they were the only things standing in between Trump and the Apocalypse.

So tired of this lame, self-serving excuse for existential cowardice.

r233.....My God, I wish I could. Theres just way too much info and so much of it, I wouldnt even know where to start. Seriously. I recommend it....absolutely. There is so much information and so many dots to connect that they had to publish the index separately online. It features all of the characters weve come to know and despise...and a lot of underlings too that we havent heard of. I will say, Eric Prince will be lucky if he doesnt face a firing squad when this is done....followed immediately by Bannon, Kushner and all the other known conspirators.

I call that the Albert Speer excuse, R226/R235.

Soeer used it to avoid the hangman's noose at Nuremberg, and every last one of these mother fucking Trumpsters will use the same lame ass excuse.

Not to mention the fact that if ALL of those fuckers are standing between us and the Apocalypse, why are sliding into the Apocalypse?

Kellyanne is feeding from the Mercer financial apparatus and serves as the Mercer insider in the WH for influence and information. Kellyanne is making added good money in the WH, and still has her Polling Company. She's well connected on the cocktail circuit.

George Conway the country club Republican type with an elite law firm with wealthy clients. For business and political ideology, he's not identifying with the fundamental and crude MAGA types. I expect he would identify as a Romney kind of Republican. He also presents himself as a legal and constitutional expert/scholar, something that is the antithesis to what Trump represents. That said, he was no Hillary supporter.

[quote]The thing is, a lot of people think Trump is dumb. he is not informed. He is not intelligent, but he is street smart and has a low cunning, and he knows how to do things to try to save himself. I think anyone who underestimates his capacity to be evil and crooked and underhanded makes a big mistake.

Which can and has taken him so far, as far incredibly as the WH. Where the biggest light ever has been focused on him, and he can't take it.

Street smarts and low cunning can't ultimately work when attempting to cope with the heavyweight demands of both Vladimir Putin and Robert Mueller.

Nixon couldn't have managed that, and for all his dirty tricks he was by leagues more intelligent than Trump. (As are most.) And Nixon went down, as will Trump, with a million times more disgrace. He has to know it. His street smarts will soon be rendered abjectly juvenile.

The Seth Abramson book is based on mainstream reporting. It's mostly contextualizing the amazing scoops and reporting and connecting the work of the Wall Street Journal to the Washington Post to the Daily Beast then forming a theory of the case based on the publicly available information.

It's an amazing thing that he's been able to own this space. If his theory of the case is correct or mostly correct, he'll be a widely-respected figure.

Concur r240. Trump has a unique ability to project confidence and push the right buttons with his supporters. He has "gifts" (not in a good way) often exhibited by cult leaders. Those that know better, find him offensive. To his base supporters, he is heroic. He speaks lies forcefully without exhibiting any indication of reservations about it. He plays on fears and prejudices. He can deliver divisiveness in an entertaining way to his believers. He's vindictive. He tries to intimidate all adversaries, including Mueller, who is too clever and experienced to take the bait. As said, DJT's methodology leaves a trail, and has an expiration date.

So where the fuck are the indictments? Mueller? MUELLER???

[quote] Many media folks have acknowledged that she's one of the administration's most prolific leakers.

I imagine somewhere Omarosa is pissed about that comment (that she doesn't own that title).

[quote]So where the fuck are the indictments? Mueller? MUELLER???

It is not going to happen.

Mueller is a Republican and you are expecting him to take down a Republican POTUS?

Get real. It is all a sham.

If there are going to be indictments then it will be more low level nobodies.

Focus on 2020.

R245 Trump is Republican in name only. Mueller would in effect be saving what's left of the Republican Party.

At this pace we may get indictments for the Trump family at 2035! Until then it's just their glorified henchmen and associates.

Evan Hurst pulling together some theories...

Evan Hurst is the Michael K of Wonkette.

A year ago Sheldon Whitehouse Posted this:

Here's a happy holiday thought: imagine if someone in GOP anti-Mueller campaign were actually cooperating with Mueller, and gathering evidence of intent to obstruct justice. Just sayin'. I'd love to see those emails!

Could it be Kellyanne?

I'm wondering if Mueller had planned on doing something this week, but he is now holding back until he meets with Whitaker or until the legal challenges to Whitaker's appointment are resolved or the DoJ Ethics & Professional Conduct division can rule on whether or not Whitaker must recuse himself.

The 20 page opinion DoJ wrote to contest the Maryland lawsuit said his temporary appointment was within the President's right and was not unconstitutional. But that is the DoJ's opinion. Admittedly it would have weight in a court proceeding,. Maya Wiley said last week that arguing the appointment on the grounds of Constitutionality was not necessarily a strong or winning argument.

The DoJ shares that view by upholding the POTUS's right to appoint. They specifically said that even though Whitaker was "unconfirmed" it was not an issue. What I find troubling is that the Presidential line of succession includes the Attorney General, and in that sense, confirmation of his appointment by an elective body is pretty important. Even though it is clear that his appointment is "Acting" and thus temporary, the terms that define "temporary" are rather generous. Minimum of 7 months if the POTUS wishes. And then renewable.

Mother Jones has more information today on the business scams Whitaker was involved with up until he joined the Trump administration last year. I wonder if Rosenstein is trying to advise Mueller or Whitaker on how to proceed, and whether either would trust his advice.

The other problem I See is that even if the Senate drafts legislation aimed at "notr firing Mueller" unless they specifically state that his investigative work cannot be tampered with or limited in any way, Whitaker doesn't have to formally fire him or end the investigation. All he has to do is limit him and stop him from going down certain avenues of inquiry. Like everything else in this administration Trump is turning the Department of Justice into another shit mess.

Kellyanne would not betray the Mercers. They are the only ones who still believe in Trump being useful fanning the flames of the Deplorable who can cause the violent chaos they want for the US.

Murdoch might be ready to let go of Trump, but the Mercers still fund the Deplorable and internet troll disinformation movement within the US (Russia doing its part from overseas).

[quote]Mother Jones has more information today on the business scams Whitaker was involved with up until he joined the Trump administration last year.

Why, yes it does:

In November 2014, a Miami Beach-based firm, World Patent Marketing, announced the “marketing launch” of a “MASCULINE TOILET,” which boasted a specially designed bowl to help “well-endowed men” avoid unwanted contact with porcelain or water.

“The average male genitalia is between 5″ and 6″,” the firm’s press release said. “However, this invention is designed for those of us who measure longer than that.” In the same release, World Patent Marketing also touted the recent appointment of “Matthew G. Whitaker, former Iowa US Attorney and Republican candidate for United States Senate to the company’s advisory board.”

Jeff Flake: I Won’t Vote to Advance Judicial Nominees Until Senate Takes Up Bill to Protect Mueller.

"I have informed the majority leader that I will not vote to advance any of the 21 judicial nominees pending in the judiciary committee or vote to confirm the 32 judges awaiting confirmation on the Senate floor until S.2644 is brought to the full Senate for a vote.”

(Of course, he'll likely cave by 5 pm tomorrow.)

He's a lame duck now, maybe he's finally found his balls.

Jeff Flake: "With the firing of the attorney general, and, in my view, the improper installation of an acting attorney general who has not been subject to confirmation by this body, the president now has this investigation in his sights, and we all know it." (via ABC)

Yeah, but. I read somewhere that it would only take one senator to vote against such legislation to defeat it. And unless the language of the legislation specifically prohibits any tampering limiting or steering Mueller's investigation then it's mute. They don't need to fire Mueller to fuck up this investigation. I am praying that Whitaker will decide on the advice of some important money men, to recuse himself. I would love to see Trump stroke out on live TV.

Moot, not mute, r257.

Mueller is holding near all close to the vest. It is hard to see someone such as Junior escape an indictment. He lied to investigators and Congress. Stone certainly seems headed for an indictment.

Mueller may deliver a blistering report on Trump, and maybe some others, without indictments. It may contain impeachable offenses. Then it is in Congress' hands. Trump could be named as a co-conspirator on certain lower indictments, particularly pertaining to obstruction. That evidence is strong.

People expecting a bunch of loaded vans hauling all the Trumps and cohorts off to jail, may be disappointed.

Mueller may not want his legacy for history as pussying-out on Trump. That noted, he has moved slow; maybe too slowly.

[bold]The Spectator: Michael Cohen has given 80 hours of testimony to Mueller, now refers to him as "that sonofabitch"[/bold]

r260 . Hell hath no fury like a doormat spurned.

FFS....Watergate took YEARS. Whitewater took YEARS. Mueller is moving much faster. Give it a rest or take a fucking Valium to curb your anxiety over it.

NPR's Carrie Johnson:

"Mueller team + lawyers for Rick Gates tell judge today that "defendant Gates continues to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations, and accordingly the parties do not believe it is appropriate to commence the sentencing process at this time." Another update January 15, 2019."

So it seems we'll have to continue to be patient.

And Whitewater wound up being a true nothingburger. Clinton's affair with Lewinsky was an unrelated matter that dropped into Starr's lucky lap, as he had produced bupkus up to then.

[quote]Jeff Flake: "With the firing of the attorney general, and, in my view, the improper installation of an acting attorney general who has not been subject to confirmation by this body, the president now has this investigation in his sights, and we all know it." (via ABC)

Flake fails to mention how he Drumpfy also now has assistance on the Supreme Court, thanks to his cowardly vote.

Did Robert Mueller Just Hint that the Russia Investigation Will Drag on into 2019?

Cookie clearing troll at R245.

R236 you could easily post some of the more interesting parts you've come across.

Oh God, this is AGONY.

264.....and like Benghazi and her Emails, everyone knew it. But thats what the GOP does, they muddy the water with "fake news" and "witch hunts"......funny how thats exactly what they accuse the dems of, but ironically, their claims always fall apart as the political hitjobs they are and when the GOP gets caught, they go to prison. Why the fuck are people so oblivious to this fact.

^^^^r264^^^^

I'll have to order Seth's book. This is difficult to watch unfold and I'll need something to sharpen my teeth on for the final act. I'm not a stable genius who makes up new words, but this appears to be everything we could imagine. Donald just kept grandad's pimping business going with the beauty pageant and modeling nexus, has been money laundering for years for the Russians, and is a complete and total TRAITOR in colluding to switch votes in close precincts in the election of 2016 with foreign agents of the Russian government.

And, We're off.......

When they start eating their own publicly (Stone, et al) and then something like this shows up contradicting every public statement they made, how can anyone believe that there is nothing there ?

Cheetolini feels the fascist fantasy

I hope the Asshole-in-Chief strokes out big time on Thanksgiving, just as he’s about to pull out his pud to rub one out to the Rockettes.

Pres Bone Spurs is in a terrible mood. Putin put him in check by allowing the Dems to flip the House. He really thought he was going to win this midterm all by himself. He had the crowds roaring for him then........he got his ass kicked in the midterms! Our little cry baby snowflake President can't take it and is lashing out at everyone around him.

He's inciting violence. He is. And that is fucking illegal. And when it comes from the fucking President of the United States IMO it is impeachable. He has done so many things waiting for Mueller is almost beside the point. They can nail him right now, the rotten son of a bitch. He would love to incite violence so he can declare martial law and suspend the Constitution.

See R266.

Republican Mueller is not going to jeopardize a Republican presidency.

He will just string everyone along til Trump exits the White House and then all will be forgotten/forgiven.

Focus on 2020.

R247 2035? Yeah, thus post-mortem convictions. And that's the Mueller fast-track? Fear and political obstacles to indict DJT apparently covers Junior Mint and some others too.

So bizzare with this Senator.

Why does Lindsey Graham tweet that he's by Trump's side at the WH this evening?

Cooking up what?

Miss Lindzey is also declaring that as Chair of the Judiciary Committee in January, her first order of business will open an investigation of Hillary's Emails.

Basta!

Miss Lindsey needs to die in a grease fire if that is what she plans to do r281.

So FUCKING TIRED of hearing about her E-mails!

Kompromatzy Lindz

r282, Yeah, I think I'm officially over him now.

CNN now: McConnell blocks bipartisan bid to protect Mueller

r286, because of course he did.

God, I fucking hate that McTurtle.

Omg r282!!!!! Remember his iced nipples while jogging in NYC? I can’t believe it!

[quote]Miss Lindzey is also declaring that as Chair of the Judiciary Committee in January, her first order of business will open an investigation of Hillary's Emails.

Then the House Judiciary Committee needs to open an investigation of Pence's emails during his governorship (which he piously declared were a private matter).

Arrested on suspicion, r285. His ex-wife already said, “it wasn’t me and he has never been violent with me.”

So Graham is planning on going off the rails like Jordan, Gaetz and Nunes to protect Trump. If he does, I think his state will turn on him.

R291, South Carolina?

Indict McConnell, Nunes, Ryan and Cruz before the Trumps and Jared.

I will not believe the Avenatti allegations until proof comes in. And then if it is true, he is my pick for the next open seat on the SC!

[quote]Republican Mueller is not going to jeopardize a Republican presidency.

The troll who keeps saying this must be ignoring the numerous indictments and guilty pleas that have come out of Mueller's investigation and that have, in fact, compromised Trump's effectiveness, if not actually ended his presidency (yet). I don't know what everyone's so impatient for. When the Dems take over the House they can bring out some of Mueller's work whether he's finished or not.

R283 Miz Lindz said it to CNN and the Washington Examiner is reporting it.

r293, indictment start at the bottom of the pyramid, at the perimeter of the net, first.

What the hell is there to investigate? What would they charge her with? Cultural appropriation of hot sauce? Turning Goodwife Kellyanne into a newt in need of conditioner?

What would we discover if we investigated your emails, Miss Lindsay?

^Russher hacked them already in '16. And my o my, perhaps the salacious content still has them quivering.

But LG will not call for an investigation into the $800,000 his individual PAC received from a Putty oligarch, will she? And that NRA Ruskie funneled money also.

And LG could disclose the deal with her golf outing flips.

Whitaker supports going after Hillary.

Dems support going after Whitaker. Guess who will blink first.

Whitaker will not be pleased being questioned by Nadler, Schiff, Swalwell, Waters, Cummings, etc.; depending on which committees call him.

Did we talk about Cohen's revelation this week that Trumpy Bear paid for [bold]EIGHT TO TWELVE[/bold] abortions??

So the repugs nominated a WEST COAST ELITE Kevin McCarthy as the new minority leader. How did this happen? They are the party of the heartland!!!!!!!!

Ewww r305. Bone Spurs is so disgusting. Right-wing evangelicals will embrace the denials or excuse it since it is their beloved leader.

R305 cite your source please. That sounds too good to be true.

Link

I know I should be happy about the Blue Wave, but when guys like King, from Iowa and Nunes from California are still around it makes me irrationally pissed off. I've always been a glass half full kind of guy, but I was really hoping we could nail those two. Mc Carthy and Trump have a "special relationship." Trump likes him. He's dumb as a box of rocks so he will be a pawn for Trump.

McCarthy, the sweet dense-,headed gentleman, is so cute, but he can't find my door to properly call upon me. It must be a California thing. Those guys are so fickle.

This Whitaker is one sick, weird asshole. Crooked as a cork screw. Delusional, grifter, con artist. He played football for Iowa and got into University of Iowa Law School on his football. LOL! The article is pretty good as far as it goes. But they don't divulge where the money came from to pay him a total of $650,000 over two years. A phony organization he "founded."

One of the clients his fraudulent marketing company bilked out of money sued him and he verbally attacked the guy and threatened him. So not a nice person.

He's a Christo-fascist too.

McCarthy is a piece of work, but he beats the hell out of Jim Jordan.

McCarthy was so set on being the new SPEAKER of the House.

Too bad. so sad.

R280, do you want people to read your links or not?

Please have the respect to post the link to the ACTUAL TWEET instead of the home page.

It’s not the first time with you missy.

[quote] One White House official acknowledged that Whitaker, who had been Sessions’s chief of staff, received little vetting.

Vetting aside, how the hell did he pass the background investigation? Totally shady character with a questionable background.

And some nobody US Attorney for the Southern District of Iowa who cited "a personal-injury case and a dispute involving a dry-cleaning business as some of his most consequential legal work" is completely out of his depth at the Justice Department. The career lawyers in that building could run circles around this doofus and he wouldn't have a clue as to what they are talking about.

[quote][R305] cite your source please. That sounds too good to be true.

Still in the rumor phase, but time will tell if the receipts are there. (I suspect they are.)

Could Mitt get any further away?

He should run for Senate Minority Leader

I can't decide whose fake smile I hate more, trump's or McTurtle.

Miz Lindz fan @ R317 R318. It's the first tweet dear, among a series of tweets. If you can't open and scroll an inch, skip. Miz Lindz has a new one every hour so go directly to her account. Know you luv Miss Lindz, but enough is enough to post them all individually.

Kevin McCarthy will sometimes let the truth slip out and it pisses off cohorts and Fox. He either can't hold secrets well enough, or there is a sliver of Truth in him that demands to be released once in awhile.

I am sure Miss Senatrice will demand funds to seriously investigate Hillary's pizza eating habits. Because they sure are so very suspicious. Welcome back PizzaGate!

Sometimes I suspect that another way these conservatives make money is buying the rights to certain words like PizzaGate or Bhengazi and sell merchandise with them.

Papa Huckabee must be depressed since investing so much time and energy into County Clerk Kim Davis who lost in her re-election bid. Will his daughter Sarah speak to Trump and try to get Kim a cabinet position?

[quote]Papa Huckabee must be depressed

Perhaps he will binge eat a cow or two.

Oh not him, R326, he's busy touring rural communities in blue states, assisting in raising money for evangelical provided "Crisis Pregnancy Centers". Saving babies so evangelicals can adopt them gets him hard.

(he was in my town for this reason recently. My partner's 80 year old (democrat voting!) mother and I were sad I had to drive her to the doctors. Mama wanted to protest with "One of Minnie from The Helps pies".)

I doubt Huckabee even remembers Davis. She's not exactly a looker (but then apparently she has lured plenty of men to marry her and / or knock her up).

Sad that my immediate thought is that they've probably just decided it's a great way to cheat and "get" more Rethug votes in.

*my immediate thought from the headline

I doubt Whitaker was vetted or had a background check. Dumpy’s office is full of people he installed with no checks done.

Kemp in Georgia as Sec. of State, and his minions certainly tried a lot of trickery to gain an edge. If he's certified as the eventual winner, that will remain suspicious. These cheating manuver s and tactics are so disgusting.

In Florida, particularly in Broward and Palm Beach counties, for Pete's sake, get new voting machines of quality and find energetic, competent people to conduct the process. Lost votes, uncounted votes, running out of provisional ballots, not enough voting sites, etc., must not be tolerated.

Trump appoints based on how their facial skin feels while they kiss his ass. Of course they are fired once they become a liability. And these days that's rather sooner than later.

ok with the investigation extended for another 2 months we can likely assume that none of the big names will be indicted soon. I'm hoping for another lower level person to be announced. ANY new indictment would be welcome and give us something new to chew on

The Senate and House, including the Republicans, should be livid with the interim appointment of Whitaker by DJT. It is the Senate's job to receive a nomination, conduct further vetting, have hearings, and vote. Appointing Whitaker is blatantly all about sabotaging Mueller. They all know it. McConnell is disgusting, and deficient pressure is placed on him.

Trump unloaded on Mueller in a series of tweets this morning. Rick Wilson observes:

President Flop Sweat sure is nervous this morning.

I hope Flake actually keeps his word and blocks those judicial appointments

What did he say R337?

Please, the Republicans give a half assed lip service to be CONCERNED about Trump's shenanigans but wil not lift a finger, because in the end they will side with the one who furthers their self serving agenda.

... In 2018, we again find ourselves charting new territory. The argument that Comey’s firing might not be a catastrophe for democracy was that we now had Robert Mueller in the role of special counsel. The argument that Sessions’ firing might not be a catastrophe for democracy is that Mueller’s investigation may yet overcome any obstacles and reach its natural conclusion.

Maybe, maybe not. But whatever the outcome of Mueller’s investigation, America is establishing new precedents. One precedent is that President Trump fired the FBI director—and Congress did nothing. Another is that Trump admitted the FBI’s investigation of his campaign motivated the firing—and Congress did nothing. A third precedent is that Trump fired the attorney general after having railed against him publicly for refusing to intervene in the investigation—and Congress has done nothing. A fourth precedent is that Trump circumvented the Justice Department’s order of succession so he could replace the attorney general with an individual who has directed partisan attacks at the special counsel, has described publicly how a new attorney general could undermine the investigation, has had a personal and political relationship with an individual involved in the investigation, and has been associated with a company that is the focus of a separate FBI investigation.

We’ll see what a new Congress does about that when it is sworn in this January, but options may be limited unless the Senate’s leadership has a change of heart. Even if the appointment of Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker—the current replacement for Sessions—were to be invalidated, Trump would still be guilty of having fired the nation’s top two law enforcement officials in an effort to obstruct the investigation of his campaign.

If members of Congress or the American people fail to act, these precedents will become the guideposts for future presidents who follow the path President Trump is blazing. A new tenet of American democracy will become that a president is permitted to evade investigation by firing the heads of agencies that investigate the president’s close associates, even when the investigation is the reason for the firings. This cannot stand. Putting a president above the rule of law is a threat to democracy.

[quote]What did he say [R337]?

The White House is running very smoothly and the results for our Nation are obviously very good. We are the envy of the world. But anytime I even think about making changes, the FAKE NEWS MEDIA goes crazy, always seeking to make us look as bad as possible! Very dishonest!

The inner workings of the Mueller investigation are a total mess. They have found no collusion and have gone absolutely nuts. They are screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers they want. They are a disgrace to our Nation and don’t...

....care how many lives the ruin. These are Angry People, including the highly conflicted Bob Mueller, who worked for Obama for 8 years. They won’t even look at all of the bad acts and crimes on the other side. A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!

Universities will someday study what highly conflicted (and NOT Senate approved) Bob Mueller and his gang of Democrat thugs have done to destroy people. Why is he protecting Crooked Hillary, Comey, McCabe, Lisa Page & her lover, Peter S, and all of his friends on the other side?

The only “Collusion” is that of the Democrats with Russia and many others. Why didn’t the FBI take the Server from the DNC? They still don’t have it. Check out how biased Facebook, Google and Twitter are in favor of the Democrats. That’s the real Collusion!

He's so fucking scared. He knows something is coming.

SCARED

The House must act as soon as it's sworn in.

Another Mueller win.

Rumors are swirling that tomorrow holds a few indictment surprises, hence Trumps tirades this morning. As many are noting, Trump usually goes completely off the rails right before a hammer drops.

In November 2014 . . . World Patent Marketing, announced the “marketing launch” of a “MASCULINE TOILET,” which boasted a specially designed bowl to help “well-endowed men” avoid unwanted contact with porcelain or water. “The average male genitalia is between 5” and 6.”” the firm’s press release said. “However, this invention is designed for those of us who measure longer than that.”

It's gotta be Stone — tomorrow's Friday...

I imagine Whitaker and Trump met when Trump was looking to buy (rather get one for free!) one of these extra manly toilets.

[quote]Rumors are swirling that tomorrow holds a few indictment surprises

It's Thursday already?

Surprised there are not formidable protests outside the Justice Department and the Capitol about Whitaker's appointment. Know it is wet and cold, but still....,..

r352, probably because they couldn't get up from their uber manly toilets provided by Whitaker's scam.

Tired of hearing about 'rumors' of new indictments any day now, then nothing. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

Whitaker, now is ordering that he review "all" revelant information to the investigations, giving directives of no further action, then will sit on it, and regularly briefs Trump on what he sees and hears.

Trump pulled it off, and only a few whimpers as a response. By the time House Democrats convene in January, the damage is done to the investigation.

Hm. Given his tweets , they found grounds for collusion, didn’t they?

Lexington

Adam Schiff hopes to fight Donald Trump with facts

Hollywood’s unlikeliest star will assume a lead role in 2019

Nov 15th 2018

Only a partisan Republican could describe the congressman for Tinseltown as a “Hollywood liberal”. Though socially liberal, Adam Schiff, a 58-year-old former federal prosecutor, is a fiscally sensible moderate with national-security chops. He is also, despite being the likely next chairman of the House intelligence committee, hardly anyone’s idea of box office.

As the ranking Democrat on a committee that has degenerated to dog-eat-dog partisanship and conspiracy-mongering under Devin Nunes, Mr Schiff has been much provoked in the past 18 months. He remains relentlessly measured and low-key. A look of pained consternation, over his Republican colleagues’ latest attack or intelligence leak, is as animated as he gets. “I think they will have a lot to answer for when this chapter of history is written,” he says, more in sorrow than rage. Yet Mr Schiff, though neither charismatic nor fiery, qualities that some Democrats think indispensable to resisting the president, will soon lead that effort.

He will be responsible for holding Donald Trump to account on the president’s main vulnerability: his dealings with Russia. In part this will mean backing Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s effort to get Mr Trump elected. Mr Nunes has tried to obstruct and discredit the special counsel. Mr Schiff will provide him with testimonies gathered by the committee’s own Russia investigation, which Mr Nunes has refused to release.

He also means to continue the committee’s probe. Indeed, though its Republican contingent prematurely declared the inquiry over, he and his Democratic colleagues never stopped investigating. With control of the committee’s staff and subpoena power, which House committees, unlike the more collegial Senate, reserve for the majority party, their effort will soon be more imposing. “The highest priority will be not to reinvent the wheel but to look at investigating threads the Republicans stopped us looking at,” he says. “There are any number that were in the category of conspiracy or collusion that we were not able to pursue.”

This points to the main danger for House Democrats bent on applying oversight to the administration. It has generated such a lot of sleaze and intrigue—also including the conflicts of Ryan Zinke and Wilbur Ross, the policy blunders at the borders and in Puerto Rico, the president’s attacks on governing norms—that the watchdogs will simply have too much to grapple with. The temptation will be to spread themselves too thinly and lose focus on what matters most. That would also turn off ordinary Americans. Having little interest in the details of 47 different Trump scandals, many would view the Democratic onslaught, however justified, as over-egged and needlessly partisan. Mr Trump, by fulminating against witch-hunts and firing off fictitious accusations against his accusers, would encourage and be strengthened by that.

By the same token, Mr Schiff’s effort to reinvigorate the House investigation, despite Mr Mueller’s ongoing investigation, could look gratuitous to a public that has little interest in the Russian plot. That would be wrong, given the seriousness of Russia’s attack, and worrying, given the likelihood of a repeat. Yet it could happen, and in that case Mr Schiff would end up politicising the special counsel’s more high-powered investigation even more than it already has been. Mr Trump would waste no time in framing Mr Schiff and Mr Mueller as conspirators in a liberal vendetta.

...

... He acknowledges some of these risks: “The president is going to fight oversight tooth and nail, which means we must pick and choose our fights.” He says he will focus his investigation on allegations surrounding Russian payments to Mr Trump’s company before he was elected. Neither the House nor Senate probes looked at this, though many believe it could help explain Mr Trump’s cravenness towards Vladimir Putin. Mr Schiff says the allegations may turn out “more compromising than any salacious videotape”.

He believes the special counsel has not looked at them either, but even if he has, he says there is little danger he will muddy the water between his probe and Mr Mueller’s. Congressional oversight, tarnished by House Republicans, is both important in itself and fundamentally different from the special counsel’s brief, he says. Mr Mueller has a mandate to investigate crimes. Having done so, he could choose not to release his findings. Congressional oversight, by contrast, is as much about bringing the truth to light as miscreants to book: “The public deserves an accounting.”

Mr Schiff’s eagerness to prioritise also suggests he has taken a lesson from his Republican tormentors. He is a veteran of one of the eight Republican investigations into Hillary Clinton’s alleged culpability for the deaths of American diplomatic staff in Benghazi in 2012. It was a bogus charge: she had no direct responsibility. Yet in the process of devoting hours of airtime and millions of dollars to it, the Republicans raised doubts about Mrs Clinton’s integrity which helped deny her the presidency. With so many real scandals to choose from, the Democrats need to focus not only on the most serious but also, as the Republicans did, on what seems most indicative of their opponent’s character. Mr Trump’s alleged malfeasance fits that bill.

You say subpoena

Sticking it to him in this way might placate Democratic activists who want to impeach the president, which the party’s leadership, including Mr Schiff, does not want: “There’s only one thing worse than putting the country through the wrenching experience of an impeachment, and that’s a failed impeachment”. It would also indicate that Mr Trump is better opposed with fact and reason, the grounds he cannot compete on, than fire and nonsense.

This is why Mr Schiff, calm and rigorous, looks like an effective opponent for Mr Trump. It is also why the president’s effort to tar him as “Sleazy Adam Schiff” fell flat. The only association with sin that clings to Mr Schiff, a marathon-running vegan, relates to the fact that his wife is called Eve.

I don’t think it’s sunk in that the they removed Rosenstein from overseeing the investigation.

Let that sink in.

Here is the initial reactions and opinions from the Office of Legal Counsel per the designation of Whitaker as the Acting Attorney General.

Some confusions and complications:

[quote]I don’t think it’s sunk in that the they removed Rosenstein from overseeing the investigation.

I seem to have missed this. Link?

So that's it then? This bald fuck gets to stop everything cold. Game over USA - you've always sucked but you were home.

I stole this from a comment at the WaPo. GREAT info:

So, what can one person, a.k.a. you, do besides venting, playing Whack-a-Troll, & just watching and waiting? Here's an action plan: Call your representative and urge that she/he intensify and protect a House investigation of DT's alleged collusion, cover-up, and obstruction of Russiagate (not to mention emoluments and tax returns) and act to protect Muller, Rosenstein, and the FBI investigation. And insist on Whitaker's recusal. The congressional switchboard is (202) 224-3121 where a polite robo voice will ask your ZIP code and forward you to your representative's office. An aide will answer, record your concerns, and pass them on. This takes 5 minutes.

Like some more talking points? These are FL's former Senator Graham's. Urge your representative to 1) increase staffing of the committees (Intelligence, Oversight, Ways and Means, Judiciary, etc.) and specifically that hire more forensic accountants and specialists in international law, financial crimes, counterintelligence investigations, cybersecurity and coding--needed expertise. 2) counter DT's probable firing of Rosenstein and Mueller by developing protocols for protecting and ensuring complete access to documents, transcripts, interviews, and other material gathered by the Mueller, Comey, and Flynn probes. AND publish Mueller's report. 3) protect all DT investigations to prevent further Russian meddling in election processes and reestablish our trust in our American government.

Please exercise your 1st A rights of petition and redress. Pass this info on to others. Accept a call to active political duty. Your country will thank you.

wait so is the ethics office done with Whitaker? I thought he said he go through that process. Is it over so quickly? The other day I heard a former federal attorney say if Whitaker was being looked at by the ethics office for whether or not he should recuse, that he wouldn't be able to do anything to the investigation during that time.

R363, there has been no story that I am aware of saying that the ethics inquiry was finished.

Is there no one left to tell this dick how things work?

Fascinating thread on here by someone who claims to have a friend who overheard a conversation Mitch McConnell had at breakfast with someone this morning:

What were the contents of the conversation? That tweet doesn't refer to it or link to it.

It was deleted. What did it say?

McConnell, Graham, and Hatch are damaging the investigation big-time, prancing before cameras declaring Mueller doesn't need protection. Whitaker will gut the investigation and they will support the dirty work all the way.

Three old closet queens.

Well?

Sorry if it was deleted. McConnell said that they’d created a Franenstein monster, that a President has paid off many women over the years and that “when the Germans got rid of the Kaiser they got rid of Hitler.”

Oops, Frankenstein monster, of course.

I can still see the thread on my timeline. Maybe it can be seen on this retweet?

This is all that remains from the thread. Sorry.

Laura Rozen: The takeaway for at least my contact was that McConnell thought we are headed for a Constitutional crisis, that Trump would take some precipitous action, regarding his legal exposure, and that McConnell seemingly intended to try to protect him.

well, I hope they all get the same end as the movie Frankenstein, then. Drug up to the windmill by the monster they created and burned to death by angry villagers.

let's grab those pitchforks and torches and burn the motherfuckers down.

thank you, r342, for those quotes.

That made me laugh so loud it scared the dog. Classic projection. He is melting down bigly and he has no idea when or where the next cut will come.

Death by a thousand cuts is OK with me.

Mcturtle may be out of a job come 2020. He barely won reelection the last time. I hope Allison Grimes runs again. I will drive down there to canvass for her. He needs to die off.

Lindsey Graham says he has discussed the Mueller probe with Whitaker today. Whitaker says that Mueller is handling the probe correctly, but, of course, he (Whitaker) will not recuse himself from overseeing it.

Miss Lindzey has her flabby pussy lips into anything and everything in Washington.

so Whitaker's saying he won't recuse...is the ethics review finished? Most experts thought the ethics office would advise him to recuse.

McConnell apparently has no issue with linking his name to Trump. History books will not be kind at all for a number of reasons to the turkey-necked, turtle-face piece of shit. I hope this all blows up in his face.

McConnell doesnt give a shit.....hes been around for DECADES, has grifted a sizable amount of money and a sizeable amount from payoffs. He could care less about optics and history books. Why ? Because everyone.... his constituents, his co-workers, government officials, et al have allowed him to get away with it with no repercussions. Now it doesnt matter. The damage has been done.

Is McConnell really admitting that Trump is our version of Hitler?

now I'm even more thankful that the Dems won back the House. Imagine if that had not happened. We probably would never see the results of the Mueller investigation.

McConnell really is a despicable piece of shit who looks as ugly on the outside as he is on the inside. I hate that he's going to be keeping his power. He is a perfect example of the "swamp"

R382, it sounded like he was saying Trump is like the Kaiser and Pence is like Hitler.

Say what r335??? The investigation is extended another TWO MONTHS?!?!? When did this happen???

Christ on a cracker, Mueller is never going to finish this thing.

This may the the end of the beginning of the investigation.

It could go on for YEARS!

R385/R386, interesting.

R385 Mueller filed something yesterday as to why Rick Gates hasn't gone to trial yet. It's because he's still cooperating with the Special Counsel for "several ongoing investigations". Remember Gates has a plea deal so he's basically Mueller's bitch and must keep cooperating until Mueller has decided he's got no more use for him

Since he was deputy campaign chair, Gates obviously dealt with the top people of Trump's campaign. This means he definitely knows shit about Manafort, Don Jr, Kushner, Trump himself and others

Who knows if Gates has anything to do with Stone though

*Correction I mean as to why Gates hasn't been sentenced yet. Obviously not going to trial since he took a plea deal

If Junior Mint is locked up in prison, I demand, as also political prisoner, to be locked up with him as cell bunk mates. My only other demand is that gentleman Judge Kavenawh be permitted regular conjugal visits.

R385, because Gates is still cooperating with Mueller, the court gave them a new sentencing date for Gates, for some time in January 2019. That's why people are talking about two months (at least).

It's hard to say who I want a karma to hit harder: Donald or Mitch.

The Miss Lindz stuff is really getting old and stopped being funny some months ago.

And I Hate Lindsey Graham.

We’re waiting for all of them to join us.

[quote]The Miss Lindz stuff is really getting old and stopped being funny some months ago.

Which is why you used it yesterday?

R393 Lindz is in thick of all this and is constantly before the cameras and referenced daily in the media. As I type this, Rachel Maddow is sowing Lindz' pic and his anti-Mueller investigation initiatives. Lindz is aiming to replace Grassley as Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Lindz is totally a DJT enabler after puzzlingly flipping.

She will be discussed. She has been talked about for years; now more than ever for obvious reasons.

She also has a history of supporting and voting anti-gay measures.

This is not talking about people adored.

R392 - Tough one, but I’ll go with Mug McConnell, and it needs to strike that humanoid like a bolt of lightning

Dumpy pants on the other hand will be getting his karma visit via Mueller, and the incoming blue Congress.

Kaiser to Hitler = Sessions to Whittaker?

Like Donald and his minions, some of you bitches think this is another season of "The Apprentice".

Pro tip: it ain't. It's a national security crisis and the largest political scandal in US history.

Mueller is going after the king, and he doesn't intend to miss. This isn't about fucking PR dumps. Patience.

What's that famous quote, if you're coming to shoot the king, you'd better not miss

R400: yes. From "The Wire".

[quote]What's that famous quote, if you're coming to shoot the king, you'd better not miss

"Ay, yo, lesson here Bay: You come at the King, you best not miss".

It appears that Whittaker has been installed to act like Nunez in the House.

Trump had twittarrhea about the inner workings of the Mueller investigation. Personally, I think Mueller is playing Whittaker.

But Trump is such a narcissistic idiot, he can't keep his hole shut.

It is now, no longer if obstruction of justice occurred, but HOW MANY TIMES Trump has committed obstruction.

It was Emerson before the wire. From the NYT, 15 Oct. 1989:

[quote]In his review of Alfred Habegger's 'Henry James and the 'Woman Business' ' (Sept. 24), Wayne C. Booth says he is reminded of 'the advice a teacher once gave to William James, after he had 'refuted' Plato: 'When you shoot at a king, don't miss!' ' It was young Oliver Wendell Holmes, the future Supreme Court justice, who tried to refute Plato, and Ralph Waldo Emerson who answered, 'When you strike at a king, you must kill him.' SHELDON M. NOVICK South Strafford, Vt.

R392 - That’s a tough one, but I’ll go with karma striking McConnell.

Dumpy pants is soon to get his karma via Mueller, and the incoming blue Congress.

My bad, R404. I had a feeling there was a precedent before "The Wire".

Apparently, there was some sort of "slip" in a document filed in the EDVA which references an indictment of Assange.

HMMMMM........maybe tomorrow is going to be fun after all....

HOLY SHIT. I cannot wait for tomorrow. Things are getting CRAZY.

omg omg omg that would be great news. Assange needs to go down HARD. Hopefully this is official tomorrow

I'm laughing so much, the dog has run upstairs.

Pres Bone Spurs is losing his shit. His tweets this morning were so hysterical. This man is not a man. He is a child in a fat ass's body. His tweets about needing ID for cereal and people voting multiple times while changing disguises is comedy gold.

The Mueller saga is going to take a film trilogy once it's all finished. Best picture for the final installment, of course.

What is the deal with Assange? What is his motivation behind this?

Rachel was great tonight. Exciting. You can listen for free without ads on the Rachel podcast.

R413, he's an anarchist who hates mainstream/technocratic political figures. He's like Glenn Greenwald. They want to "tear it all down."

R412: Ted Danson as Mueller!

New York Times:

Excellent. Assange is going wish that Hillary really had 'droned' him.

this makes me wonder...

is Hannity next?

Remember Assange was caught trying to dm with Hannity earlier this year. Hannity's account on twitter went down temporarily for some reason and some girl made a parody account. Assange thought it was real and started messaging. She screen shotted and reported it.

Let's see if Hannity freaks out over Assange

I would ejaculate hands free if Hannity ends up going down too OMFG but probably won't happen

(still hoping though)

Assange/WikiLeaks, Faux News, Russia were all in cahoots with Trump. Assange is actually the weakest link at the moment having next to no friends left. All the other parties are acting very nervous about this (probably getting ready to throw Assange under the bus) so you know Mueller is on the right track.

[quote]A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!

[quote]It's a national security crisis and the largest political scandal in US history.

Trump's insane all caps projection invokes 'AMERICAN HISTORY' because even his sociopathic narcissistic denial can't fully hide from himself the deep trouble he's in.

Two or three sane consecutive objective thoughts would allow him to concede that the 'WITCH HUNT' - the forensic investigation - continues because there's so very much about and around him to investigate. And is already discovered.

If it's a witch hunt, several second-tier witches have been identified. Many more in the coven await.

Trump is being awfully quiet on Twitter this morning.

Terrified?

That sniveling McTurtle and his lieutenants Hatch, Grassley, and Graham, etc., are circling the wagons around Trump. These are also guys that received huge Russian oligarch contributions to their PAC's, and more Russian money through the NRA. Now McConnell is calling for bi-partisanship. After Eric Garland? After declaring the first year of Obama, that his aim is to defeat everything BO did?

And his profiting off cocaine shipping? The Paradise Papers tell more.

This gang of greed and corruption are protecting Whitaker. So disgusting.

Cocaine Mitch needs to be investigated.

I love the quiet dignity of the Mueller team — just working diligently, maintaining confidentiality, while this fucking monster rages outside. It's such a great theme that could be really emphasized to inspiring effect in a movie of the whole affair.

This kind of captures it.

[quote] I doubt Whitaker was vetted or had a background check. Dumpy’s office is full of people he installed with no checks done.

He had to have an FBI background investigation to work at DOJ. You cannot come on board without one. My question is who looked at all this fraudulent activity and gave him a security clearance. As the Chief of Staff to the Attorney General he would have to have had the highest level clearance.

There is something not right about this.

And, I'm speaking about Whitaker above in R426.

R426, Christopher Wray, of course. Trump's Comey replacement. It's like a little Rube Goldberg machine -- put the pieces there in advance, pop in the ball (bal Whitaker), and watch the ball pass through the ostensible hurdles.

It is 10am.

Where are the goods?

Ecuador deserves sanctions if they don't turn over Julian Assange's ass that is held-up in their London. Embassy. Read he really stinks due to nasty hygiene.

I wonder who among historians and political writers have a running outline and files, tracking everything so they can spring into action and write a book that's pretty much ready to go by the conclusion of the Mueller investigation and its aftermath.

So shall we see an afternoon surprise? Don't mean another CNN clip of Lindsey Graham rolling his eyes. Mean a new indictment.

Judge just ruled CNN's Jim Acosta's WH press pass to be reinstated immediately..

CNN) Federal judge Timothy J. Kelly sided with CNN on Friday, ordering the White House to reinstate chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta's press pass.

The ruling was an initial victory for CNN in its lawsuit against President Trump and several top aides.

The lawsuit alleges that CNN and Acosta's First and Fifth Amendment rights are being violated by the suspension of Acosta's press pass.

Kelly did not rule on the underlying case on Friday. But he granted CNN's request for a temporary restraining order.

This result means that Acosta will have his access to the White House restored for at least a short period of time. The judge said while explaining his decision that he believes that CNN and Acosta are likely to prevail in the case overall.

Kelly made his ruling on the basis of CNN and Acosta's Fifth Amendment claims, saying the White House did not provide

Re: R431. Seth Abramson seems to have been on Trump's case from day one, recording and questioning Everything. That'll be a great resource.

As for more colloquial on-the-ground day-to-day responses to this freakshow: again I cite the daily despair, intelligence and wit on display right here in these DL Treason threads.

Naturally If any site should be at the forefront of Oral History, it's Datalounge.

[quote]If any site should be at the forefront of Oral History

Pics please.

For those wanting to know whats in the Abramson book....this thread breaks down some of the content.....hes up to chapter 4.....

NBC reporting Cheeto said he himself is writing the answers to the Mueller questions, not his lawyers.

Sure, Jan. At best, he raged and vomited out crap, and his lawyers will massage it however they see fit.

so the indictment of Assange isn't official yet...c'mon when will it be announced...Monday?

Judge upholds Mueller's indictment against Russian troll farm.

Thanksgiving Surprise? Mueller’s Latest Manafort Maneuver Hints Something Big May Happen Soon

R441 since the Wednesday after midterms we keep hearing reports of something happening soon. Unfortunately we just have to wait. I check every weekday morning but nothing except rumors. It's funny how every journalist now thinks he/she has THE BIG SCOOP by saying something is about to happen.

[quote]Julian Assange Is Secretly Charged in U.S., Prosecutors Mistakenly Reveal

I don't believe the 'mistakenly' part.

R443, I agree with you, there’s no way that was a “mistake.”

Absolutely, R443. This is a BIG drip on Trump, Stone, etc.

Mueller may be holding up some new indictments due to waiting for the answers to written questions given to Trump. Some of those questions involve other people connected to his campaign, and Mueller may want to do some cross-checking before moving further on some people.. Trump has been asked since January for testimony.

That makes sense, R446.

I would love it if Trump threw Pence under the bus and fucked with his reputation too. Pence has mostly gotten away unscathed by everything so far

"So far" being key, R448. Manafort brought Pence on board. Flynn was jettisoned for "lying to the Pence" about his past activity.

Pence already know. Pence was part of the transition team.

Pence is a dirty as they come, masquerading behind his "faith" and his "god" and his "patriotism."

I'd like to attend his hanging, simply because of his unabashed Christian charlatanism.

R449 I'd like to think Pence will suffer consequences too but I'm not sure. The repubs would revolt if both Trump and Pence went down. They don't care about actual evidence and laws, just optics. They'll be screaming about a "mass witch hunt against all repubs" until the end of time

Getting tired of republicans and their obsession with this "witch hunt" shit.

Sometime you just have to hunt witches.

R450, if Mueller continues his outside-in and from-the-bottom-up approach, he'll take out Pence before Trump.

I've always felt like this might be the case, and yes I know--feelings aren't facts.

But how sweet that would be.

Pence certainly knew there was collaboration with the Russians and probably did not report anything to the FBI, including Flynn's activities of which he claimed no knowledge. His closeness with Manafort suggests he was knowledgeable about some of it early. Heading the transition team, it would be expected he heard discussions that included suppressing embarrassing and perhaps illegal information from being discovered. Whether or not he had any direct dialogue with Russian conspirators has not been substantiated....yet. Of course DJT would throw MP under the bus, if saved his own ass. Pence would know that.

r446....if you watch Maddow, you would know that there is a court case going on right now that is under seal....the entire case. The judge assigned recused himself...he was also a Trump pick, who under Senate grilling was forced to say he would recuse from any Trump/Russia related cases because while working in the white house, he worked on the Trump/Russia case for Trump...although he refused to elaborate what hes done. The speculation is that they are fighting an indictment of Trump or Junior or fighting a subpoena. They know its Mueller related because Mueller prosecutors keep going to court over it.

[quote]I would love it if Trump threw Pence under the bus and fucked with his reputation too.

Well, he may throw him off the ticket. The New York Times reports today:

In recent weeks, with his electoral prospects two years from now much on his mind, Mr. Trump has focused on the person who has most publicly tethered his fortunes to him. In one conversation after another he has asked aides and advisers a pointed question: Is Mike Pence loyal?

Mr. Trump has repeated the question so many times that he has alarmed some of his advisers. The president has not openly suggested dropping Mr. Pence from the ticket and picking another running mate, but the advisers say those kinds of questions usually indicate that he has grown irritated with someone.

Some Trump advisers, primarily outside the White House, have suggested to him that while Mr. Pence remains loyal, he may have used up his utility. These advisers argue that Mr. Trump has forged his own relationship with evangelical voters, and that what he might benefit from more is a running mate who could help him with women voters.

Come h-e-double hockey sticks, Mother and I going to get the opportunity to hang our own drapes in the White House!

It's very interesting that Trump is having stories leaked that he doesn't feel that Pence is being loyal to him.

Pence hasn't been interviewed by the Mueller team yet - Does that mean he's a target?

Does Trump know there are charges coming for Pence, and that's why he's peeling away from him now?

I wonder if Mueller's team is purposely giving bad information to Whitaker, knowing he'll take it right back to Trump. That's a great way to get himself into a lot of legal jeopardy. Something about corrupt intent.

Mueller's way too smart to do that. Trump, etc. can destroy themselves with their own paranoia.

George Papadopoulos Is Betting on Robert Mueller’s Authority Getting Struck Down

Oh, sure, George - That's going to happen, no doubt.

Here's what - Paul Manafort held off as long as he could, which was quite a while, waiting for Mueller to go away.

Mueller isn't going away and George just needs to do his piddling little 14 day sentence, get off twitter, and get on with his damn life.

The Republican-led House Judiciary Committee, in its final days in power, is planning to issue subpoenas to former FBI Director James Comey and President Barack Obama's attorney general Loretta Lynch. Republican Rep. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia, the committee chairman, plans to issue the subpoenas on Monday for Comey to appear for a closed-door deposition on November 29 and for Lynch to appear on December 5. The interviews are part of the House Republican investigation into the FBI's handling of the Clinton email probe and the Russia investigation.

I had a feeling the repubs would try to go after Clinton AGAIN as the Russia investigation continues to heat up. They are DESPERATE to do anything to distract from what's really going on. Fox "News" will go crazy for this and they'll have their new story

I just hope Whitaker doesn't fucking go after them and come up with bs indictments.

and all this bullshit while Trump continues to use his personal phone that has been tapped by foreign countries.

I hate repubs. I really do. They're a bunch of backwards, dumbass hateful hypocrites who add nothing but negativity to the US

Yesterday I re-posted a comment from the WaPo. Here is another I found; it is pretty on-target. Thanks to that OP:

Donald Trump is a third-generation (small-time) Mob Boss who has never been particularly intelligent (or good) at whatever he did. Almost all of his business ventures have been hollow failures, and he learned and inculcated his values at the feet of his father, Fred Sr. He got them from his father, Friederich Trumpf, who fled Imperial Germany (Kallstadt) in 1885 to avoid military service, becoming a Barber and a Pimp on the Lower East Side of New York.

A third-generation American, DJT was ‘born on Third Base,’ and his father ensured that he would have the opportunity to succeed on his own. Trump’s diplomas from NYMA and Penn were purchased by his father, and he never attended the Wharton School of Business. He received a BA from the Penn Economics Department. At least George W. Bush had the honesty to admit he received ‘Gentleman C’s’ at Yale.

But, like other parallel (3G) Sansei, he took to heart the wrong lessons. He became unruly, vacuous and vain. His moral compass could not be broken because he never had one. He learned early to enhance his appearance of wealth and success by taking on debt, maximizing the exposure of others, and giving them an occasional financial ‘haircut.’ Trump’s six (6) Bankruptcies over the past 40 years left hundreds of creditors in ruin and would make Mitt Romney (of Bain Capital fame) blush.

In layman terms, none of us would buy a Used Car from this guy. Winning the Presidency (by accident) would be sobering to anyone else, but he didn’t see the scrutiny coming because he thinks like a Fifth Grader. Trump didn’t have the presence of mind to ramp-back his Racketeering (RICO) activities after he took office, and now he is staring at OSC Mueller’s Size 14 Shoe about to drop. The only RICO activities he appears to not have engaged in is Prostitution, Drug & Gun-Running, and Murder-for-Hire.

Trump will never be Impeached and removed from Office. He will be criminally indicted, soundly defeated in 2020, tried, convicted and imprisoned.

The Democrats should continue with this.

Trump most likely participated in prostitution/human trafficking of women (and probably underage girls) through his "beauty pageants" in eas Europe.. I mean that's how we ended up with the FWOTUS!

He operated a prostitution ring through Trump Model Mgmt.....its fairly well known.

TMM also trafficked in underage girls....you cant make this shit up.

LOL @ OP's photo!

[quote]and that what he might benefit from more is a running mate who could help him with women voters.

I'm available!

[quote]Mother and I going to get the opportunity to hang our own drapes in the White House!

Tell the DL all about those drapes Mike.

so I just don't understand why he was never sent to jail DECADES ago for all the shit he's done and gotten away with. Shame on the NYC and NY state politicians (both repub and Dem) who let things slide. I don't see how someone who's done so many illegal things wouldn't have left some kind of trail. How was it that none of the people he's screwed over in 40 years ever reported him to the authorities? Or they did and he just paid off the officials?

I'm just happy that the NY AG-elect has vowed to go after him BIGLY. He's going to fucked next year when Letitia James does her thing. He'll hate the situation even more because the AG -elect is a black woman, not a white man like he's used to

R472 I have that same question. Is it his longterm mob ties?

I did all the answers. Not my lawyers. Me. Very easily. By me. I’m a big boy.

R473 but they went after the mob. Wasn't that 1 of Giuliani's crowning achievements?

There are numerous reports about payoffs.....Cyrus Vance (hes still there) was going to indict Junior and Ivanka a few years ago, and suddenly he dropped the charges....of course he suddenly received a "contribution" from Trump.

Then theres people like Pam Bondi who was looking into charges for Trump University....she received a campaign donation from Trump, and the case disappeared. Funny how he was charged and fined by another state.

[quote]Pence was part of the transition team.

Pence was the HEAD of the transition team. He's up to his fucking eyeballs in all of it.

Interesting tweet from Pedro da Costa. He starts out stating that Jared is going to be disappointed when he discovers prison reform won’t apply to RICO cases.

Then, when you scroll down, he tells someone else that it's High Treason.

Did they really do prison reform just to benefit from it themselves? Good, I hope they know they're going to prison, and soon.

Still, I tend to believe the stories that Jared has already flipped. The story is that he is talking to Mueller through his father and lawyers. We'll see if Jared gets hit with anything heavier than the usual perjury charge that most of the flippers get.

This saga (and its Tweets, Deplorables, treasons, and Stormy, Brett, Melania, etc.) deserves to be told by the late great Hunter S. Thompson.

"Fear and Loathing in the White House Bunker."

[quote]He had to have an FBI background investigation to work at DOJ. You cannot come on board without one. My question is who looked at all this fraudulent activity and gave him a security clearance.

Democratic-controlled committees in the House will be asking that very same question in January.

CIA concludes Saudi crown prince ordered Jamal Khashoggi's death

MBS caught red-handed. Bad news for Trumpy Bear and Jared.

Trump will replace Pence. He knows that no president does that, so he'll do it. He doesn't need Pence anymore.

He won’t but he’ll drive the media crazy thinking he will, R482.

I doubt he'll touch Pence. But if he did...

Pence seems like the type that would run his mouth in retaliation.

But of course he's also the kind of guy that would keep his bitch mouth shut as long as he gets a nice pay off.

R478 what does RICO stand for?

RICO

[quote] Trump will replace Pence. He knows that no president does that, so he'll do it. He doesn't need Pence anymore.

It was more common in the 19th century. In this century much less so. FDR replaced his VP -- but then again, he had four terms.

Butina in plea talks.

Let the NRA traitors burn!

It's day 666 of the Trump administration, according to Brian Williams. You can listen to his show as a podcast without ads.

I wonder how much the NRA lessening their political involvement this time around due to their role as a Russian cover organization effected the outcome for the Repugs.

Technically Nixon had to replace his VP.

Trump may get his next Veep from SC: Miss Haley or Miss Lindsey.

Both can be sassy and spunky.

I don't think Haley would go near him again with a 50 foot pole and a body double.

[quote]so I just don't understand why he was never sent to jail DECADES ago for all the shit he's done and gotten away with.

He's hardly unique in this. There are tens of thousands of white-collar criminals like him operating with impunity across the country at any given time. Everybody knows they're crooked -- the public, law enforcement, politicians. Sometimes local LE and politicians are in their pockets, but mostly it's just that their crimes are too complex and difficult to unravel and prosecute. (Look how long it's taking Mueller to investigate and he's got the very best people and tech at his disposal.} Much easier to go after petty criminals.

The rumor was that Trump wanted Christie for his VP before Manafort manipulated him into choosing Pence. Now that Pence is old news and Trump is ready for another change - what are the chances that Trump is considering Christie again for VP? And Jared is working overtime to kill the idea?

I heard on a news report before the election that Jared has made "peace" with Christie and he would not block any attempt by Trump to make him AG or VP, but who the fuck really knows?

[quote] Technically Nixon had to replace his VP.

True, but not before Nixon kept Agnew on the ticket for reelection in 1972.

I was thinking he might pick Christie too.

Senator promises to investigate those HRC Emails for what? The fifteenth time?

Whitaker? Graham? DJT loyalists getting placed in key assignments to constrain Mueller.

LG won't be challenged from the right anymore. Democrats in South Carolina motivated to put up a fight for the seat in 2020, though very much an uphill endeavor. Battling that Koch Bros and Adelson money won't be easy.

If Trump wants a new VP to endear him to suburban women, then he should definitely go with Christie. Women cannot resist him! He’s (deep-fried) sex on a stick!

From the Mar-a-Lago video collection.

Those poor girls left outside.

Why it's the perfect ticket!! Two fat, loud, obnoxious blowhards from NY/NJ.

I did not need naked ladies, R501. Still gay.

Christie is seen as a moderate. He might appeal to the moderate Republicans who hate Trump but who are on the fence about voting Democrat.

From Trump's point of view, he thinks Christie is a killer, probably based on what Christie did to Rubio. He might think Christie will go "killer" on his behalf when Mueller comes for him. I think he would wind up being disappointed, but that might be in his head.

Why is Christie not in jail?

[quote]Cyrus Vance (hes still there)

That's his son.

[quote]A TOTAL WITCH HUNT LIKE NO OTHER IN AMERICAN HISTORY!

Yeah. Right.

It used to be totally normal for presidents to switch VPs when running for reelection, to appeal to new constituencies.

Christie is not in jail because Wildstein testified that Bridgegate was his own idea and he never discussed lane realignments with Christie.

What's more interesting is how much did Kushner know about Bridgegate ahead of time. I remember a non-profit put in a FOIA request to the FBI for records related to Kushner, but we never heard anything after that.

Trump will NEVER be able to sign up anyone remotely capable or even close to normal as a VP. Every politician who wants a future can clearly see the sinking shit show that he has become. The best he could hope for is someone like Dana Rohrbacker or some other loser who's totally buys into his BS.

r506....yes, I should have said Cyrus Vance Jr.

[quote]Trump is considering Christie again for VP

The republican'ts are going to need an industrial strength platform for that team.

This may have been mentioned in an earlier thread, but with the re-emergence of Christie, it bears repeating:

Current FBI director Christopher Wray was Christie's attorney during the Bridgegate scandal, something that was kept secret for almost a year. When Wray was nominated as the replacement for James Comey, the recommendation for Wray came from...you guessed it, Chris Christie.

Wray is very dirty.

Have we discussed Mr. Kellyanne's assessment of the White House as a "shitshow in a dumpster fire"?

wait what did Christie do to Rubio?

R515 I agree! His wife is a shitshow! Trump is a dumpster fire!

Wray was also an attorney when his firm was representing various Russian interests that have intersected with this investigation. So his Christie intersection is part of a trend toward the action. These are not necessarily disqualifying when taken as a whole, however. They do give the appearance or perception of possible impropriety. That's not good.

I'm not a great fan of Director Comey and he has his flaws (including a tendency toward behavior that likely cost Clinton the election), but he wasn't crooked and his background couldn't give even the perception of impropriety.

[quote]wait what did Christie do to Rubio?

He dismantled him in that one debate. That was effectively the end of Marco in the primaries. He lasted a while longer, but he was wounded and everyone could see it.

R518 Comey committed the same error as the media. He thought the American people couldn't be so stupid as to vote for Trump so they treated Hillary as if she were already a shoo-in for the Presidency by being extra hard on her.

I happen to agree with that assessment, r520.

I try to keep up with all of this as much as I can (it's so much sometimes) but do have one question: with everyone talking about a possible indictment of Donald Trump Jr. (as well as indictments for Assange and Stone), why is there little to no talk lately about an indictment for Jared? Given that he was also at that meeting in Trump Tower -- not to mention all the other shit he's done like lying on his security forms, the back channel with Russia, etc. -- how is he not neck-and-neck with Don Jr. as to who will be indicted first? Surely he hasn't found a way to slither out of all of this so that others will take the fall.

People keep forgetting that theres more to the Comey story....but they quickly place the blame at his feet. He was basically blackmailed by the NY FBI office and forced to go public to subvert a much larger "scandal" that they were attempting to do in NY to attack Clinton....i.e Weiner laptop, etc. He actually did Clinton a favor....besides...only a moron believes there is anything there to begin with. After all the investigations, they produced nothing...its all a political hitjob and will continue to be used as a target for future smear campaigns. Does anyone actually know anyone who decided NOT to vote for Clinton because of Comey ? SERIOUSLY. IT DID NOT HAPPEN....IT WAS A NARRATIVE THAT WAS MAGNIFIED BY MEDIA WHILE IGNORING TRUMPS SCANDALS.

R522....Dont worry.....Kushner IS going down.....among the charges will be espionage...he was active with Cambridge...so will Brad Parscale...another worthless snake.

Comey's re-opening of the investigation at the behest of bad actors in the FBI did cost Clinton the election through the weaponization of this action in the media both organically and, more significantly, as an op run by the Trump campaign and its collusive elements.

So I agree with your perspective as well, r523.

Don't we all expect Kushner to cut a deal with Mueller and turn on Trump? Jared's father Charles made an appearance in that Qatar mess. If Charles did anything slightly illegal, Jared would sell out Trump in a heartbeat to save his father.

Wray's representation of Christie was known before he received the appointment. I think they even previously knew each other from when they worked for the government as prosecutors.

Comey, Rosenstein, Wray... all part of Christie's circle of acquaintances from back in the day.

I still have a hard time with Rosenstein working for Ken Starr during Whitewater.

For those blaming the media for the Comey debacle (and it was), you have to also keep in mind that making confusing, important information public like Comey did in the days just prior to election, that of course the media would think it was a very big deal. Even suggesting anything negative right before an election had traditionally been a big NO.

So if someone that prominent in the FBI so publicly muddies the waters saying there are many emails that need serious review, what media - or general public - wouldn't jump on that immediately and assume there must be something big that the public needed to know before voting?

R529 But prior to Comey, the media was already obsessed with her emails... and then not so much after the election. Comey was just a tool to get the email frenzy to climax in the final days of the election, and he too was "dismissed" after his usefulness was over.

Great read.

Menz that are loyal to Trump and get nominated to be federal judges, must meet my private interview expectations.

[quote] My question is who looked at all [of Whitaker's] fraudulent activity and gave him a security clearance. As the Chief of Staff to the Attorney General he would have to have had the highest level clearance.

[quote] Christopher Wray, of course. Trump's Comey replacement.

No, R428. Wray does not adjudicate security clearances for DOJ. He has absolutely no role in granting or denying them. There is an office at DOJ that is responsible solely for that.

Now, Wray could have interfered in the background investigation to try and hide Whitaker's fraudulent activity, but he'd have been a fool for doing that. It would be have been stupid to even try because they document everything over at the FBI and it could easily be discovered. Second, he'd have to know that would get him fired and possibly prosecuted.

No, someone granted him that clearance in spite of the questionable issues in his background. I agree with the poster up-thread who said that the incoming House Committee chairs are going to be very interested in finding out who did that and why.

It was probably Trump himself....wouldnt be the first time.

Trump said "we haven't been briefed yet" on the CIA's Khashoggi findings.

WaPo says that's not true. Trump had already been shown evidence of MBS's alleged involvement and privately remains skeptical, aides say. He has tried to avoid pinning blame on MBS.

That reporting alone represents grounds for an independent investigation into the Trump administration's handling of the Khashoggi, r536.

Mueller may have jurisdiction over Trump-Saudi collusion, but he may also soon have the company of another special counsel for this matter.

What happened to the report that was suppose to be released regarding the FBI and the release of the email statements right before the election? I thought that was soon to be completed months ago.

Don't know if this has been discussed yet, but Rachel covered a super-secret court hearing Thursday that seems to be intimately linked to Trumpito and the Mueller investigation. The parameters of the hearing were completely sealed - we don't know the defendants, defendant's lawyers, or what was being discussed. We do know that Mueller's lawyers were spotted going into the hearing, and that a Trump-appointed judge had to recuse himself.

Lots of shit stirring underwater at this point.

R539

Good. Mask and snorkel ready.

“The Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, said he had given recordings “to Saudi Arabia, to America, to the Germans, the French, to the British, to all of them”, but initially there was no independent confirmation from any country that they had heard it.”

I hope someone releases it. Maybe multiple governments at once. Then let Trump try to refute it.

I kind of hope they don't release the tape of the murder. That's not something you can un-hear.

Thanks for the link to the GQ article. The "X" factor is intriguing.

The possibility that Brexit and the Trump campaign relied on some of the same advisers to further far-right nationalist campaigns has set off alarm bells on both sides of the Atlantic.

I want Kyle Griffin's legs over my shoulders.

I am still in a stupor over the fact that the media reported that Russia was tampering with Floridas elections, members of the Senate IC confirmed it, yet every media outlet is acting like it didnt happen.....same thing happened with the 2016 election....everyone knew what was going on and ignored it for the more click worthy stories.

Miss Lindsey is all types of poppered up this morning on TV, the little minx.

R550 I almost yelled at the screen. Graham fucking STARTED his segment with the lie that the Steele dossier launched the investigation.

Todd is useless.

Todd must have been Miss Lindzey's gentleman caller last evening. Both displayed that glow of fulfillment but are keeping "the why" hush-hush.

Perhaps Mark Sanford will primary Lindsey Graham in 2020. Sanford has that 'Appalachian Trail' baggage, but he is one of the few high profile Republicans that has been openly critical of Trump. He lost the First District primary to a woman Trumpian this year, who then lost to the Democrat in the general election and ended as a Democratic pick-up. Sanford did not endorse the failed Trumpian, and she lashed out about it.

Sanford could possibly beat Lindsey in a GOP primary. He was a popular Governor, though his personal dallies cost him. But Graham has dallies of his own that needs to come to light. Graham is 100% all Trump; but as Trump loses his level of appeal, so will Graham. Graham is not particularly popular anyway, but gets tons of special interest money.

Another angle is that Nikki Haley could primary Graham and beat him. She has ambitions to run for President and wants to stay relevant.

Chuck Todd is such an odious and ugly little ferret. Does he know how loathed he is in liberal circles? His hand-off to Ari Melber each night is always so desperate. Ari is gentlemanly enough to humor him, but I always have to fast-forward the first minute of “The Beat” so I don’t have to hear Toad speaking.

[quote]Todd is useless.

Reminder that Chuck Todd railed against Buzzfeed for publishing the Steele Dossier. He has a vested interest in muddying the waters and silently promoting GOP lies that the dossier started the investigation.

Chuck Todd didn't graduate from college, and was really fat. Still, he has a career. Who engineered it?

Chuck Todd is a fine example of an overachieving white man in America wholly undeserving of his status and position at MSNBC.

Chuck Todd looks like the kind of guy that walks around with skidmarks in his underwear which he refuses to change but once a month.

Chuck Todd also looks like the kind of guy that probably hid in his sister's or mother's closet and jerked off while watching them change.

Todd tries to legitimize Trump's disturbing antics while acting "concerned". Todd was brutal to HRC and her Emails. So was Andrea Mitchell.

As to Lindsey Graham, are all the anchors on CNN and MSNBC still infacuated with this Senator? They reference Graham all the time as a "voice of reason". No he isn't, and he never was except when McCain exherted his dominance. And Graham is just about a daily feature interview on Fox.

Don't give this opportunistic, compromised, flipper, the camera time unless it is to expose the enabing of obstruction.

^infatuated, exerted, enabling

The malignant tumor baby in the WH is now calling Congressman Adam Schiff, Little Adam Schitt on Twitter.

Such a Christian role model! He’s done more for religion than anyone according to him.

Sarah Sanders a few days ago: "There must be decorum at the White House.”

Trump today: Calls Democrat Adam Schiff "Adam Schitt"*

Schiff replies:

Wow, Mr. President, that’s a good one.

Was that like your answers to Mr. Mueller’s questions, or did you write this one yourself?

R562 we know that mean's that Drumpfy is concerned about what Schiff might be capable of doing to him.

Did Drumpfy comment at all about Avenatti?

I haven't hard anything and I'm surprised he hasn't.

Apologies if this was aalready posted but what a petty jagoff Dump is:

R567 Sorry! Didn't see above posts

Have we compiled a list of names for Dotard?

I know we have:

Dotard

Drumpf

Mango Mussolini

Agent Orange

.... what else?

r566....of course he didnt....one of his henchmen is behind it (Jacob Wohl)

Cheeto McAsslips

Orange Orangutan

Tiny D

Wee Donald (what they call him in Scotland; "wee" also means "piss" in the UK)

Traitor - in - Chief

Bone Spurs

Dead Meat - As we head into the new year.

Cheetolini

Twitler

Fucking Orange Nightmare

Fat Donnie

ILLEGITIMATE

Traitor-In-Chief

Orange AntiChrist

Future (hopefully) Federal Prisoner #×××

Cheeto-in-Chief

Putin's Puppet

Chuck Toad looks like he smells and has dick cheese issues.

Diaper Don

Donald Rump

Let's remember that these are his parents.

And this:

From a brilliant cunt into another thread:

[quote]His mother looked like Nosferatu in a Betty Ford wig and his dad looked like a Muppet eagle and a cadaver were cloned together.

[quote]Nothing normal was going come out of those two. Yeah, sure, there was Marilyn Munster. And with enough plastic surgery his daughter kind of achieved a MM simulacrum, but just barely.

into = in

Is that for real, r584? The President Of The United States is whining about a tv commercial?

I have R581-R585 on block.

R588 yes, it's from several years back.

Because you're probably a troll, R589.

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out:

Bajour!

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