All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53)

Link to previous thread for reference:

Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

ThWhen will it Be Mushroom Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/21/18) e Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41)1) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

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Huh. What do we make of this?

r5, it is well known that Hannity and Trump talk on the phone every day.

For Hannity to make such a brazen statement, it is expected that he already talked about this with Trump.

It is a twofer, either Trump does nothing and it appears that Hannity saved him from destruction, or he does NOT appear to listen to Hannity and Hannity gives him cover till after the midterms or whenever. OH those evil deep staters. It is a win win for Trumpie.

My guess R5 is, the Rethugs are scared that any firing/s will bring even more Dems into the Capitol.

They probably told Hannity in no uncertain terms to fall in line and deliver the message to Cheeto.

Hannity makes it sound like a Dem conspiracy to trick Cheeto. But it can still be Cheeto's peeps in Congress, like Nunes and Jim Jordan, who were the conduits of the leak, and Hannity is just pretending he doesn't know. This has their fingerprints all over it.

I enjoy thick schlongs, but the mushroom-headed short ones are like appetizers. I've been known to nibble. hehe

Short mushroom-headed penises are wonderful appetizers. Sometimes I just crave a nibble. hehe

I still believe Russia will steal the vote for Republicans wherever possible and there is nothing that we can do about it.

Yes, like R10 says it is kompletely impossible. All is despair. Do nothing. I know, I am fellow homosexual member of United States.

LOL R11

Russia/GOP will probably try to hold on to the Senate. They won't have as much success with the House. Here's a thing to remember: In 2016, Hillary was swamped. She had Comey, Russians, and a perfect storm of shit piling on her...and SHE STILL WON THE POPULAR VOTE. This time there is no Electoral College to rob her. So turn out is critical.

We have to make this the biggest tsunami of anti Trump turnout they have ever seen. I want those fuckers cowering under their beds, trembling with fear when they realize how much we all hate them. When their own, credible, long standing pundits out here like William Kristol, George Will, Steve Schmidt, etc.etc.etc. are urging people to vote for the Democrat, that has to scare the shit out of them.

The House will conduct hearings. They may even impeach at some point. But they really can't do too much harm without the Senate to convict him. No matter what the outcome, I predict that Trump will fire Rosenstein and Sessions after the mid terms. You can bank that. And before he has finished tweeting those firings, Mueller will unleash a barrage of indictments. Both men are going to act after the Midterms. But we have to turn out. We have to. No excuses.

Go find out if you're registered and keep checking to make sure you don't get purged. Also, check to make sure you know WHERE to vote. An old trick I learned as a party hack years ago: Changing the polling place at the last minute and posting the new location, makes it difficult and inconvenient for voters and some don't have the time to drive to the new place. Also, vote early. They often "run out of ballots." Make sure you know if they have early voting in your county. Remember, voting is the very least you can do.All the marches and phone calls in the world won't matter id we don't show up.

Remember:In 2010 we gave Congress away. We didn't show up.

If we're still complaining about the NYT on this thread, I just want to add that all of their articles, from those urging the gentrification of faded neighborhoods (see the "faded neighborhood" thread) to the most serious political matters, have a redolent mug-cradling sensibility, as if all of their reporters were concern-troll fraus who occasionally take a break from whispering with Ivanka and Wendy Deng to ingenuously try out a new $1800 avocado-toast maker and marvel that they ever lived without it. It's a queasy mixture from beginning to end of lame punning headlines and winking contrarianism, relieved only by the astringency of Paul Krugman and Charles Blow.

You have summed up the NYT very well, R14. But what really bothers me most about that paper is that their so-called reporters (Maggie Haberman, Michael Schmidt, Judith Miller, etc.) are such "useful idiots" who get played over and over by the White House.

Whether he meant it or not, Rosenstein was right in thinking that this president needs the 25th Amendment solution; personally I think he's a complete loon.

Yes, R15; I just wanted to add that the whole paper, not just its Trump-leaning political reporting, breathes an air of privileged solipsism and obliviousness to the actual consequences of the social and political actions they're writing about. The political reporting has almost the same affect as the met-cute full-page wedding stories. Anyway, I'm not sure those reporters are idiots; they're complicit.

I’m confused.

Does an (R) next to a candidate’s name stand for “Russian” or “Rapist”?

The media adored Lindsey Graham, a daily feature before the network cameras, especially on Fox News, finds a way at the same time, to both diss the New York Times and defend his beloved President Trump.

The NYT' story was a plant. Wonder what DJT, Nunes, Jim Jordan, Graham, Mark Levin, Hannity, and even Vlad, knew about this beforehand?

That's not how I see it, r14. I don't get any general "frau" sensibility from the NYT's tone. I get privileged straight/closeted white men's club vibes among the male reporters and their same-level sources, with the Maggie H. and Judith M. ilk piercing that men's only club veil by strategically using their feminine wiles to flatter and tease.

Will Maureen Dowd claim Hillary made Rosenstein do what he alledgedly did?

R20 I believe so, too. It was written to slur Rosenstein but the truth that shines through is that our IC knows Trump is a criminal and unfit.

The antidote to this nonsense is easy: “Substitute ‘Obama’ for ‘Trump’—now how do you feel?”

R14 for the win. Brilliant assessment. You write very well. I love your acidity.

R23 I often encounter a lot of Deplorables and when I do I often engage them by asking them how they feel about some awful thing that Dotard did but I replace his name with Hillary or Obama. They're so ill informed they never know what I'm doing and they become outraged and start screaming about how evil they are (and what a cunt Hillary is).

I then laugh and tell them I'm just kidding and it was actually Dotard that did it and how do they feel about it now?

Most get pissed at me and some, being the Deplorables that they are, end up making excuses for Dotard and say whatever he did wasn't that bad.

R18 to answer your question:

Thanks for the laughs, OP. Poor little Toad being compared to the dotard's rotten, fetid, cheese clogged meat.

A House flip, a Senate flip and Kavanaugh not getting on the court would be oh so nice. Imagine the terror that would strike in a whole bunch of hearts.

I'll settle for this drumpf in a suit to match his complexion. Nothing less.

THE FUCKING NERVE of this mofo to ask for receipts from Dr. Ford. I didn't sleep last night because I was gnashing my damn teeth down to nubs.

R25 the word “cult” is popping up more often. It should.

R25 is a brave one. I wouldn't engage someone I knew supported him at all, but back away slowly and let them know I have bear spray.

[quote]Remember, voting is the very least you can do.All the marches and phone calls in the world won't matter id we don't show up.

I don't know why our side doesn't get that. It's a minimum effort on the scale of the effect it can have.

Rethugs show up because they know voting is the possibility to get maximum outcome with minimum effort. They aren't flakes who have to be "inspired" by the candidate to just drive to the polls and push a few buttons. 1-2 hours of their time on average in return for years of getting what they want.

I think more people need to be aware of absentee voting. I'm always surprised at how many people don't know that's an option.

My 80-year-old neighbor told me this morning she's voting this November, when she usually doesn't, and a straight Democratic slate.

[quote]They aren't flakes who have to be "inspired" by the candidate

Or maybe right-wingers, cultists that they are, are just more readily inspired by any old con artist. Either way, we need to think of politicians more in terms of instruments for policy-making. This should be posted every election:

I doubt the regular conservative voter will vote in the mid-term being put off by their party letting Trump and the Deplorables run over them and make them look like fools. I bet the Deplorables even hope for a blue wave so they can get their guns out and, as militant group, physically protect the White House. Only to be shot down by Trump and his White House security personel who's gotten so paranoid that he thinks the Deplorables are there to get him or it's the Liberals trying to get him.

Make sure to check she's still registered/eligible to vote. If she doesn't vote, she might have been removed from the voter rolls.

R37 advice is meant for R34

This probably isn't the right place to put this but I don't have an account and don't know how to start a new thread. But Chechna is now putting Gay people in consentration camps.

Ohio has early voting at the board of elections starting October 10.

Last day to register to vote is October 9.

Please pass it on if you live in ohio

[quote]Whether he meant it or not, Rosenstein was right in thinking that this president needs the 25th Amendment solution; personally I think he's a complete loon.

Why not a 2nd Amendment solution?

100% Mail in voting.

Washington, Oregon and Colorado have it.

Low tech, safe, secure, paper trail.

The future.

R42 I keep saying the same thing in these threads. We need to get more states to follow their examples.

R42 Yeah, unless someone throws away or loses ballots.

R44 you're able to track what happened to your ballot and see if it was counted.

Received my mail-in ballot today!

Still think this thread should have been titled Treasonheit 11/9 to tie in with the just-released Michael Moore documentary. Anyone seen it yet?

Meh, R47. Doesn't really go with how these threads have gone so far.

Might be helpful? Isn't that a huge understatement?

If anyone knows the dirt on Trump it's Cohen. He probably knows what illegal stuff Orange Shitler has been up to better than he does himself.

He might be helpful in the same way eating a gallon of ice cream a day might be fattening. Here’s hoping he’s sincere.

You just need to give people a paper receipt with a barcode on it after they voted. A gov website then can trace any vote via their barcode.

I love voting by mail. I have plenty of time to go through the voter guide and cross reference with the Internet. Plus there is a drop off box less than a mile from my house.

Great title!

Matt Purdy is getting read for filth:

@JustSchmeltzer

Replying to @mattbpurdy 1/ Not one outlet says the account isn’t at least in dispute. You’re the only ones reporting AS INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT that he was not being sarcastic. You’re lying to people, and it is gross.

Absent evidence, second-hand sources are not “fact” when first-hand sources dispute.

2/ slamming YOUR OWN READERS for pointing that out is gross, unprofessional, and calls into question how confident you are in an ability to back up your reporting when it is in serious dispute.

Dean himself said your readers are now your public ed, when you fired your public ed.

3/ if you can’t or won’t allow readers to act as your public ed, and demand you back up your reporting with SOME evidence, when it is being disputed by EVERY OTHER OUTLET, then give us an public editor again, who can.

But trashing your readers? Just stop.

4/4 FWIW you come off like Stephen Miller, saying the power and accuracy of the NYT shall not be questioned.

No one here is saying this is fake news, but are raising legit points. Your heavy-handed response to readers is worthy of this White House, not a responsible news outlet.

The authors of the RR article should be suspended for having such flimsy sources.

Their editor should apply at Fox.

[quote] Not one outlet says the account isn’t at least in dispute. You’re the only ones reporting AS INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT that he was not being sarcastic. You’re lying to people, and it is gross.

Yeah, who do they think they are, FOX News?

@oufenix

Replying to @JustSchmeltzer @mattbpurdy Have you noticed that they don't get this defensive when the Right calls them "fake news" or says a story has been misreported or says they're flat out lying. It's only when the Left does it that they get so defensive.

My friend just told me today he is no longer registered to vote in our state even though he voted in 2016 and has lived in the same place for years. Fortunately, he found out in time to register and get an absentee ballot. He votes Democratic and we are in a red state. Gee, I wonder if these things could be connected?

Every likely Democratic voter must check to see that they're on the voter rolls.

R60 what state?

Thank God I no longer have to see this piece of shit on CNN anymore.

Idaho, r62.

How convenient--

The New York Times would like you to submit examples of political disinformation or false claims to them!

"I should have fired him the day I won the primaries."

Did that raise the hair on the back of anyone else's neck?

He immediately tried to dilute it, but that first spewing sounds real, like he believed in June 2016 for SOME reason that he was a shoo-in.

Thank you r230 from the previous thread for posting this article.

After reading it, I was left wondering, has there ever been a political operative appointed to the Supreme Court? I mean, appointing Kavanaugh is like appointing David Brock himself, or Roger Stone or David Axelrod, to the bench.

They're not actually jurists and in no way impartial after a lifetime of ruthless manipulation in furtherance of ideology.

Wow the NYT is so defensive. They must really be in trouble.

Lie down with dogs ... Not that they're better, but it would be something if the NY Post or Daily News survived and the "holy goddamn" Times didn't.

Exactly, R67. He worked his way up the ladder as a ratfucker. He was manoeuvred into a track to the Supreme Court after proving himself in the Bush II White House, where his public lies and cover-ups satisfied his superiors (although they're all coming out now, despite the massive withholding of documents). His juridical skills are mediocre, and so is his intelligence to judge from the hearings. In fact, the whole Republican apparatus is being exposed as pretty bankrupt right now.

In case anyone isn't sure you can check your registration at 'Can I Vote'.

Select your state in the drop-down list, and it should take you to your state site.

Re: Jason Miller’s mug at R63, is his goatee getting smaller or his whole head getting fatter?

Heh, liking r18, the only other thing: the Rich.

Jason Miller’s mouth area/facial hair makes him look like a pussy; or an aardvark.

CNN will just get another Trump loving deplorable to take his place; I"m sure they have a million of 'em stacked in a closet somewhere, just ready and raring to go.

I R75

I hav a strong feeling that this Supreme Court mess will backfire and be the catalyst to take them all down. The whole lot of repug scum.

What dems need is momentum, and I think a week or two from now they will have it in spades, all the way through the election and into 2019.

There are currently too many people on the fence or indifferent but this SC mess has the ability to make everyone wake up, pay attention and pick a side.

The Russia angle makes a lot of peoples eyes glaze over but they understand unchecked privilege and heavy-handed oppression.

^ especially when it’s a live hearing with lots of publicity

You may be right about it firing up women, but they are already fired up...even the Repug ones who are going for Dems, at least in the suburbs. However, I'd wager there are polls already out there showing that men don't give two shits about this Supreme Court thing. First of all, it involves "women issues" like abortion and, in their eyes, some harmless sexual horseplay where the guy was not only a teenager but drunk. That doesn't count in their eyes, mostly because so many of them did the exact same thing.

This is a huge issue for women. It's mostly a non-issue for men. Men who, as of the polls I saw on Monday, still favor Repugs on generic ballots for both the House and the Senate.

Women have been fired up since grab 'em by the pussy was, illegitimately, elected as POTUS. Just look at the Women's March protests. They will vote.

Fewer women are felons and therefore disqualified from voting. I don’t think their registrations are challenged nearly as often as men.

Once you've served your time and are no longer on parole, you should get your voting rights back. Simple as that. The Repugs don't want that because they're a bunch of racists, of course.

r79 Most polls I have seen have men +4 to +6 going for Democrats.

R83, not according to all the recent polling.

r84 We are getting a lot of polling now and I can't remember what day I saw this particular poll. It was on MSNBC. I personally will not take a poll seriously until about 4 weeks or so.

Men may have shifted 4-6 points away from Repugs but they still favor Repugs on a generic ballot by around 5 points. Testament to how many men supported Repugs to begin with, even after everything they've done.

They will either cave or pay the price.

Either way it’s a win/win for democrats.

Thanks Sen. Feinstein

Lindsey, Lindsey.....

We have early voting, mail in, and you can register to vote on the day of voting. Vermont gets that much right.

Did you see Maggie Haberman’s over-the-top defensive tweet about the NYT Rosenstein story? She is such a harpy.

The real question is what the Letters to the Editor will look like, should they choose to publish any.

Hopefully there will be no further op-ed pieces about Trump's paranoia and hostility toward the FBI, since the Times has now contributed to it.

Be kind to Mitch McTurtle at this difficult time. He recently lost a young relative.

Has Ivanka gone in and changed Trump’s diapers in preparation for the Ronan drop?

They're delivering a new chair for the Oval Office. Only, ya know, in gold.

[quote]Be kind to Mitch McTurtle at this difficult time

Thoughts and prayers should suffice, no?

r96 If that is true, and Avenatti can bring forth witnesses (he has not failed to deliver thus far) then game over.

May the repugs pay steep, steep losses on election day 2018 at all levels.

Bret has the same anus lips Drumpf does.

I really hope Avenatti doesn't try to run for president. He's much better as the attack dog, growling and staring down the GOP. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Obama White House counsel Gregory Craig under scrutiny by prosecutors in offshoot of Mueller probe

Rosie is on today's podcast episode of "Mueller, She Wrote".

Misleading title, R101, the events in question were two years past the time Craig left his position as Obama White House counsel. Very Fox of you to leave it without providing a sentence or two of context.

R103 Very "Fox" of you? lmao

Thanks for that.

Steve King states his boundaries. Why are all these fascist assholes so fucking ugly?

So he did this too?

SMH republicans are monsters.

Oh, this is fucking delicious.

[quote]‘No Man Will Ever Qualify’ For SCOTUS If Kavanaugh Allegations Are ‘New Standard’

Good. We have had sufficient.

R105 Guess having a women only SC would scare the shit out of them. And that would be fatal since these people are completely filled with shit. LOL

A r107 : I feel kind of bad for Paul Gosar, having his siblings denounce him in public like that. Of course, if I were from Arizona or if I knew him I might not feel bad at all. He must be pretty awful.

14 years later and we still have no way to audit the vote counts....

[quote]If that is true, and Avenatti can bring forth witnesses (he has not failed to deliver thus far)

Is that true, though? Wasn’t he supposed to announce the names of more women who were paid off by Trump/Cohen? Something like that. There’s so much shit flying through the air, I’m developing a goldfish memory.

[quote]‘No Man Will Ever Qualify’ For SCOTUS If Kavanaugh Allegations Are ‘New Standard’

So, republicants believe all men are rapists.

I hope Avenatti comes out with more info soon.

New Jane Meyer piece about Russian interference in 2016

Oops, Jane Mayer.

Getting antsy, it seems. LOL

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R118 It's called cosmic justice, Conjob. Something you and Trump will experience in due time.

R120, WTF are you talking about? I'm enjoying Kellyanne freaking out/getting antsy.

R118, you're a dick. I'm totally with you - bring this asshole down - but you're so paranoid that you think every comment is supporting Kavanaugh and Trump - even someone's comment above where they say they don't believe in karma.

Some people don't believe in karma because, in order for things to "come around," the first have to "go around" to an initial horrible state (an evil person first goes around to fuck innocent people before karma comes around to bringing the evil person down). Why would the universe want evil to be elevated in the first place? There's no karma - if there were, Cheney et al would be in jail.

R121 I was addressing Conway making stupid excuses for men.

r122 and toddlers wouldn't have their limbs blown off by land mines while Donald fucking Trump of all people becomes the leader of the free world. My biggest problem with idiots who believe in "karma" is how victim-blamey their mumbojumbo gets if you follow it through to the necessary conclusion that "well, they must have done something in a past life!" NO. No, they didn't. That doesn't exist, either. Neandertheists, all of them.

I figured just after I wrote R121. My apologies, R123.

R122 That's why you have to appreciate it when justice prevails on one of these assholes who think their actions will never come back to haunt them. The thing is Kavanaugh must have other skeletons in his closet from the decades after school, since he still acts like the same entitled arrogant jerk. May they come forward and sink this asshole's entire career!

I’m adding Neandertheists to my vocabulary.

Jane Mayer is the author of Dark Money a book predominantly about the sleazy disgusting Koch Brothers. Their German nanny made the boys sit on their little potty chairs same time every day to move their little bowels regularly. Also, how they tried to smear their older brother as gay and cut him out of the daddy's will. Kochs tried to smear Jane and sue her but were completely unsuccessful. Book was recommended to me by my neighbor who worked for Koch until she stopped drinking the Kool Ade and realized how evil and destructive what they do is to the planet and they don't give a shit. Very credible author. Go get 'em Jane and Ronan. Tag team Mitchie and friends asses.

R128, Mayer was terrorized by Koch's people.

Now on Axios: ROSENSTEIN RESIGNING.

Why would he resign? We all know that Trump is too much of a pussy to actually fire anyone.

NBC says Rosenstein is headed to the White House, having been summoned there, but he won't resign; he insists on being fired.

Is this in part to distract from Kavanaugh sexual assaults?

Well, it’s all over guys. I have lost all faith that Mueller’s report will ever see the light of day. Fat Bastard won. The US is lost.

Rosenstein is out, per CBS This Morning. Either resigning or fired.

R134, careful, people are going to say you're trolling.

The fact that R134 has no other posts in any of these threads means it IS trolling .

I thought that Sessions had to be the one to fire Rosenstein?

[quote]If Rosenstein is fired, Noel Francisco may be next to oversee Mueller: A clerk for Scalia, he worked for Bush during the Florida recount and has been skeptical of special counsel probes in the past

R139 - WHOA. That's bad.

This isn't good either. Doubtful he would recuse:

[quote]Solicitor General Noel Francisco. Francisco, however, is probably recused from the Russia investigation (at a minimum), because Jones Day, his former firm, represents the Trump Campaign (unless there's been a change). NF has recused from all SCOTUS cases ...

Well, I guess we'll be taking it to the streets soon. I'm happy to fly back to D.C. To protest this shitfest.

I didn't think trump could be this bad and I knew he would suck.

Since the Dems will get the House soon, does this really save Trump that much? The Dems can open all sorts of investigations on the Trump crime syndicate and the GOP.

[quote]has been skeptical of special counsel probes in the past

Regardless, the future Dem-controlled House will line up investigations up the yazoo.

In the meantime, protests and demonstrations will hopefully bring more Dems to the polls in November.

The timing of all of this seems really fucking bizarre.

This story the NYT printed came out a year after the events supposedly happened. They must have been working with IQ45 to release it now just so they could get Rosenstein out.

Why now?

R144 Yes, this is just another Trump's temper tantrum that will inevitably land him in more trouble. When the Dems come in they can investigate this firing as another obstruction of justice.

Is it possible that the White House wants to hear Rosenstein's side of the story or am I being optimistic?

R145 Yes, NYT provided cover for this "firing" clear as day. Just like the NYT did a lot to normalize and deflect (i.e. Russian collusion) for Team Trump before the election.

Maybe Haberman dangled the story in front of Trump for more access ("My peon Schmidt will write the story if..."). She's ALL about access. Learned it during her time at the New York Post.

Why would the WH want to "hear his side" when they orchestrated this leak in the first place? No doubt with the helpful intermediaries Gowdy, Nunes and Co.

Seems one newspaper's trying to bring down democracy, while the other is trying to fight to save it. Times, Post. Yeah, yeah corporate control etc.

McCabe corroborated the "wear a wire" story for the Times... Why?

WSJ says Rosenstein is NOT going to offer to resign, and will force Kelly to fire him.

Make that another count of obstruction of justice.

Rosenstein thread link

I wonder if Mueller is watching the news, or if he's just hammering away on whatever it is he scheduled for the day.

Mueller knows what's going on and keeps calm as usual. He knows a distraction by Trump when he sees one.

Keep calm. No surprise Trump is just digging his own grave deeper.

Rod R needs to dig in his heels like Miss Sessions who has refused to resign on how many occasions now?

Where are these sources about Rod resigning coming from? Has his camp said anything or is it just IQ45 Operatives putting it out there?

R159 Yeah, they got ahead of themselves with their wishful thinking.

CNN's Jason K. Morrell:

Per @CNN sources -Over last several days Rosenstein spoke to John Kelly & said he'd resign.

A 2nd source says Rosenstein said he was “thinking” of resigning

The men decided to work it out on Monday

Kelly said to be surprised when Rosenstein called this AM to say he's resigning

Unless I hear from someone that's not an IQ45 ass licker... Im going to assume they put this out there as a feeler and there's no truth to it.

Not surprised Kelly is all over this. He's essentially Trump's hitman at this point. Did he book the Situation Room for this one, too?

I just blocked the NYT on Twitter. Ain't got time for their crap.

WH: Trump and Rosenstein to meet on Thursday.

So more false reporting as a diversion.....again, Jonathan Swan...... what did anyone expect ?

Was this supposed to be test to see what the public response would be? Or just a Kavanaugh distraction?

Worried about vote tampering. Go vote, of course. Future elections ... we need to go back to paper ballots. No more electronic stuff. It's too sacred to turn it over to weird private companies and their bullshit tech.

We still do some of our most important things in paper - e.g., signing bills into law. Let's go back to paper for voting. Find best practices (e.g., Netherlands), bring them here.

I really wish Muller would drop all the collusion bullshit and concentrate instead on the really big kahuna: Trump's money laundering and tax evasion. That's the Trump family's Achilles heel. If Muller had concentrated on that, that jack ass Trump would have been out the door months ago.

I think at this point, Mueller, a registered Republican, is deliberately dragging this collusion bullshit out in an effort to distract everyone from the real crimes of money laundering, racketeering and tax evasion.

R166 why not both?

It feels like the Russians have infiltrated the New York Times. The corruption is so deep that it's not a stretch to think that if they tampered with our elections that they could wreak havoc with our media. Get everyone so confused by what's happening that no one believes anything and they give up and turn our democracy over to the thieves.

r168 r169 You aren't paying attention. Why do you think Mueller is concentrating on Cohen and Manafort? Their money laundering is linked to Trump. Once Mueller gets all the evidence from Cohen and Manafort, he can go after Trump.

R171 again. The Russians along with the right wing criminals like Scum Hannity and others, of course.

r168 and r169 are the same trolling poster, r172.

This is nothing more than an opinion by someone who retains maybe a sixteenth of the publicly-known history of the Mueller investigation, but it seems to me that the option to dismiss DAG Rod Rosenstein was always available, but DJT was always counseled against doing so, and that Mueller long ago recognized dismissal as a potential event, and planned for that contingency; therefore firing RR is akin to a "poison pill" that not only screams [bold]obstruction of justice[/bold] but is a sign from 45 that he's done, the job is too hard, too much harassment, et cetera. I would not be surprised if several high-value/high-profile indictments were released within 48 hours of Rosenstein's termination.

[quote]Rod R needs to dig in his heels like Miss Sessions

Rod wishes his heels were as dainty and sexy.

I was at a big brunch party recently when a former DOJ official was asked for an opinion about Noel Francisco. Would Francisco obey a presidential order to fire a special counsel? Yes. Very likely.

Trump is like a clown juggling live grenades... This is the FUBAR situation the GOP has created for themselves. Sane people can only stand back at a safe distance at this point.

Trump is a troll trolling the world. Paying attention to his shenanigans and worry about them is what he and his associates want. With Trump I don't worry about the headlines. I worry about the fineprint that is being outshined by the flashy and constant stream of new headlines.

[quote]Worried about vote tampering. Go vote, of course.

Imperative to vote in STATE elections. If you didn't know by now, you should know voter rolls, purging etc voting laws are state laws.

R174 is your typical, know-it-all on-line poster, when the sad reality he/she/it doesn't know jack shit about jack shit. Reasoning skills aren't her forte, but jingoism and blathering on with her mouth are.

Just though I'd put that out there.

Trump, Junior, Ivanka and Eric have been very busy laundering money for Russia and the Arabs.

Just for informational purposes- march for truth and others have organized with moveon.org to coordinate massive protests if Rosenstein is fired. My email from them had the find your protest/register page. I signed up for an event and I was the 9131 or so person to do so for just that event.

Well if Mueller wants his delayed indictments, thrown out, he can just keep dragging his heels.

r184 Without strong supporting evidence and cooperating witnesses, indictments are worthless. Premature indictments would be a waste of Mueller's time and effort.

R184 is an already-recognized troll.

If Trump fires Rosenstein the Republicans can kiss both the Supreme Court and Midterms goodbye. The Mueller investigation will go forward, in some capacity, even if Mueller gets fired. And whether he gets fired or not..the Republican Party, as it stands, is DONE. That's what scaring the shit out of the GOP.

The threatened RR firing was dropped today as a trial balloon and a distraction from the mess swirling around Kavanaugh. (The press, or CNN at any rate, can only handle one shiny object at a time.)

Further evidence lies in the fact that the “follow up” Rosenstein meeting is set for this Thursday. (Hmmm, let me see, what else is happening on Thursday. . .).

So, are you team "worrying about Rosenstein" or are you team "worrying about Kavanaugh"?

That's exactly what the media is going for to occupy / distract people's minds.

Pick your poison, indeed.

NY Times reporters (mostly women) were all over the TV networks today dissing Kavanaugh's second accusser and reiterating what the newspaper conveyed about Rosenstein earlier. Something strange is going on at the Times. They did a flip faster than when Miss Lindsey had her golf outing with DJT.

R190, they're caught and are doubling down on their bullshit. That's all.

One skill Trump does have, is his ability to manipulate news stories. He is as master at distraction. Don't confuse that with job competences, which are shallow.

McConnell speaking on the floor of the Senate accusing Dems of playing games, etc. with the Kavanaugh nomination.

It feels awful to listen to him - like listening to a ... school disciplinary action.

[quote] McConnell speaking on the floor of the Senate accusing Dems of playing games, etc. with the Kavanaugh nomination.

From the guy who played every dirty trick in the book so Obama couldn't pick Scalia's replacement.

Mitch McTurtle would make a great Aunt Lydia, even better than Sarah Huckabeast.

It does hurt to listen to McConnell lie about some make believe democratic conspiracy to destroy Kavanaugh’s life, while omitting the fact that Kavanaugh’s attempted rape DID destroy the victim’s life. Republicans are disgusting people.

Mitch McTurtle with his turkey waddle going up and down, is citing the New York Times to discredit Kavanaugh's accusers. Something is going on between Senate Republicans and the NYT.

[quote]Mitch McTurtle would make a great Aunt Lydia

But he'd be a terrible Aunt Clara.

NYT is defensive because:

1. they got “scooped” on the Ramirez story: weren’t able to locate the guy who was 100% certain of the details because he heard the dirty details from an attendee the day after it happened; and,

2. their reporting on RR is correct. Likely the News division ran it as an FU to the paper!s management, which refused to let the reporters do an investigative piece on the true identity of the op ed department’s “Anonymous” author.

R198, their reporting on Rosentein is technically correct but very misleading (and I think deliberately as a favor to their WH sources). Compare and contrast it with the Post's version of the same story and the Times' shoddy reporting becomes obvious.

turkey wattle

damn smart phone auto-spelling

R101 is a liar...just like every racist pig, it is a requirement in their club.

R200

It is kind of obvious that Rosenstein has something to hang over Trumps head. Thursday will come and go and Rosenstein will still be in place.

McTurtle showed his evil Nazi side again today.

McTurtle has a face that should be slapped viciously.

My take is Trump wanted RR to resign before Kelly. He refused, and Trump fears firing him. Frankly, Kelly, himself, probably wants RR to stay. Kelly knows Trump goal is to end the Mueller investigation, and he may view it needs to continue.

Expect Kelly did not allow Steve Miller, Jared, Ivanka, Sarah, etc. anywhere near his meeting with Rosenstein.

Allen Weisselberg has been singing to the investigation for over a month.

Mueller has likely been sharing all evidence with state prosecutors.

Rosenstein isn't going anywhere.

He'll probably show up on Thursday and talk about indicting Ivanka just to supremely fuck with Trump.

R206 Evil cowards the lot of them.

There will be firings after the midterms, if not before. Pretty sure if the Dems are successful, Cheeto will say Fuck it, I'm gonna do maximum damage in the lame duck session.

[quote]Pretty sure if the Dems are successful, Cheeto will say Fuck it, I'm gonna do maximum damage in the lame duck session.

Absolutely. Let him. If he doesn’t like being investigated now, just wait.

Sorry, can we backtrack to the Koch Brothers potty training. Uhm, so like were they only allowed to shit at that specific time of day or was it like they also had to always shit at that specific time of day regardless of when else they might have gone?

NPR said that today was a only a test of the Constitutional Crisis Early-Warning System.

This October will be interesting for sure!

This helps me remember we're dealing with a low IQ moron. LOL

Who needs an October surprise when it's pretty much expected that there'll be drama after drama in the news media entertainment? I think I'm going to pull the plug (social and news) media wise and focus on everything being in order to make sure my vote counts. Maybe I let my inner frau out and buy some coloring book for adults and occupy myself with that instead of following the news.

Isn't it interesting that the Republican-controlled Senate can go to immense lengths to defend Kavanaugh from allegations of old sexual improprieties, but has no time to insist on sufficient measures to protect our election system from on-going Russian and other foreign interventions.

The shame of America is that people such as McConnell, Graham, Cruz, Grassley, Paul, Hatch, Cotton, Cornin, etc. are elected to office. And that's just the Senate.

[quote] The shame of America is that people such as McConnell, Graham, Cruz, Grassley, Paul, Hatch, Cotton, Cornin, etc. are elected to office. And that's just the Senate.

You know, this time I'd be rooting for the Martians.

The Democrats need to insist a vote be taken on a motion to protect Mueller investigation. If Mcturtle refuses then they need to go to the public and let the public know what we mostly already know -that the Republicans are actively obstructing justice and not upholding the Constitution and ask WHY? Things are just getting worse and worse. I feel like I am living in an alternate universe with all the despicable shit going on.

We can't let these pukes get away with this democracy destroying shit in service to an amoral, evil, narcissistic, evil, sociopathic piece of slime. Fuck I'm mad and I'm not going to take it anymore.

At least Avenatti can communicate issues like R218 is suggesting. What is wrong w Demos? They don’t do a good job of communicating simple messages.

R218, there is legislation like that. It was voted in Committee but McTurtle has refused to bring it to a floor vote. Unfortunately, unless McTurtle wants to, it won't be voted on.

Sen. Coons was just talking about this legislation again on msnbc. He often talks about it since he's the author of the bill.

Dems can't do much in minority position in either houses except talk in the media.

I say let Avenatti go off the leash. I guess he probably doesn't have a leash but I back him 1000 percent. He's got the least to lose and the biggest balls to go for it-to speak truth about the sleaze and slime in the WH and among Republicans (both male and female. I would like to see Susan Collins grow a pair or she is as hypocritical as all the R's) the media -esp. CNN and to a much, much lesser degree MSNBC are so timid about saying the truth. DJT and family have been in debt to Russians for a very long time. I wish MSNBC would run the documentary Active Measures. More Americans need to watch and learn. The DJT deplorable base won't understand it anyway.

Is there any mechanism for the House to do an investigation? I mean, say Trump finds a way to end the Mueller JD investigation, could the House (assuming the Democrats take it) hire Mueller to do a new investigation?

You forgot about he Benghazi hearings, R222?

Avenatti is doing what I want my elected Democrats to do. There’s too little outrage on the left and I don’t see many Democrats on every channel ranting against this administration. I’m glad that we have someone like Avenatti on our side.

Let’s face it, Democrats don’t know how to attack the right or how to seek their accomplishments. Instead of attacking people like Avenatti, we should learn from him.

Rosenstein has a big brain, Trump has a pea brain, so how will the meeting turn out?

The only people who attack Avenatti are Repugs or trolls.

Most voters can only relate to simplistic slogans. MAGA and "witch-hunt" touches deplorables narrow thinking. Democrats need good PR, and short terms such as "save democracy", "end the puppet government of Russian", and expell the criminals". Don't play nice. They are not.

[quote]He's got the least to lose and the biggest balls

Pics please!

Maddow will have Avenatti on tonight.

This "train" story is blowing up. Avenatti basically said that Brett and his friend Mark and several others participated in a gang rape of a girl in high school. She is coming forward in the next couple of days. He said that she is highly credible with Government clearances and history.

Is she the victim of the alleged gang rape though, or someone who was close to the victim or just someone who was present at the party when it occurred?

I was in high school just a few years after Kavanaugh and can recall significant details when pressed about major parties or events that happened back then. Even close timeframes, close to exact dates. I'm surprised there aren't more witnesses from that time period who knew BK and Judge and heard about their shenanigans in detail.

r231, were you a blackout drunk in high school?

No of course not, which is why I remember so much.

What about other witnesses? Not everyone was a massive party animal and drunk like BK.

I wonder if we'll start seeing some witnesses to emerge and maybe one more accuser.

Well, I was a blackout drunk in high school and there were very, very few other kids I hung out with who were not also afloat in the endless party. Non-party kids were boring and we definitely wouldn't have trusted them to not appeal to an authority figure if an evening began to turn sideways -- sideways for us meant we were successfully breaking the town.

If Hannity was involved with Cohen, he was involved in criminal activity.

Everything out of any Repug's mouth should be followed by a LOUD "SURE JAN!"

Read the headline "Kavanaugh vows not to withdraw..." and thought if he's "vowing", he's this close to withdrawing.

Wait.. what?

Fox News interview by Martha McCallum with Brett Kavanaugh. Note of interest: Martha McCallum was a defender of Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly during the sexual harassment scandal at Fox News.

“So you’re saying through all these years that are in question that you were a virgin?” MacCallum asked Kavanaugh.

“That’s correct," he replied.

She pressed on: “And through what years in college, since we’re probing into your personal life here?”

“Many years after, I’ll leave it at that," he answered. "Many years after."

I can only assume he means that he believes you remain a virgin until the sex is consensual on both sides.

"If you don't count the rapes, I was basically a virgin until I got married."

*extreme side eye from wife*

"Well, I guess you could say technically I'm still a virgin."

R239 Born Again Virgin! Hallelujah! And this guy was the one trying to corner Bill Clinton with sexually explicit questions!

I read somewhere today that even if Mueller is fired, Beryl Howell, the judge overseeing the federal grand jury, is empowered to put a special prosecutor in place to continue the investigation. She can appoint whomever she deems worthy, including...Robert Mueller.

R243 do you have a source for that?

R243. I'd love to believe that is true.

I read the article at work and can't find the exact one (but I'll keep looking). Right now, this one explains it a bit but the article I read earlier today (on either Politico or Vox, I think) went into more detail. I remember one part specifically named three people she could name. One was a fired Rod Rosenstein. One was another prominent prosecutor. And one was Mueller himself.

I'll keep looking...it can't have gone far!

Well, I can't find the goddamn article. I read it at work so it's not even in my history. It was linked as an additional story at the bottom of another article today. Fucking annoying as hell. Well, what I wrote above is what it said. I remembered it because I thought it was funny that they said she could appoint either Rosenstein or Mueller, should they both be fired. It also said it would move it out from under any control of the Executive so Trump couldn't touch it.

Unfortunately there are few laws that protect our country from criminals in the White House. That makes me sad because, I did not think a criminal would be able to take over our country and now I see how wrong I was.

[quote] That makes me sad because, I did not think a criminal would be able to take over our country and now I see how wrong I was.

He can when he's backed up by a foreign agent - Putin - and local interest groups - GOP, Koch Bros, NRA, etc.

Right now the best fun fact is, Avenati has another supposed victim. I hope she is not pulling his leg.

Like Avenatti is letting someone pee on his leg and tell him it's raining.

I am naturally pessimestic but trying to be hopefully.

If you haven't moved...why would they say you are not registered? That state will have riots if too many Trump haters show up and are not allowed to vote.

What I want to know is this: will Melania dismiss the Renate Alumnius development as “locker room banter” or will she simply sport a new Fall edition of Zara’s I DON’T CARE jacket to express her indifference to it all.

They'll wind her up to say 'attempted rape is not rape' or some other fucking thing. Who fucking cares about that bot at this point? She's dead inside because of her association with these people.

An alumni of what? What course did she give you? I don't expect this woman to testify to being considered 'easy' in HS. Few women would.

Uh now would be a good time to retract your original statement and stick up for yourself, lady. And all the other girls who come after you.

This lady is a coward. How could she live with herself by not speaking out. These are the coldest people on earth.

Yup, say nothing but retract that statement.

Sadly, I know why, R257. Every girl does. If THOT is considered the town slut, you are not. You are the nice girl (no matter how slutty you may actually be) and can always point and gossip about the one everyone KNOWS about.

I'll feel sorry for Renate when she retracts that letter. She's complicit otherwise and fuck her. This is obviously class closing ranks and if you can't see this, you're blind. These girls are trained....the catholic upper class is the worst. Expect nothing from this slut.

and make no mistake, they know the score. They know what they have to be in order to live in that world of reprobates and privilege. They're still fucking girls. No woman worth her womb would fucking let an asshole get away with shit like this.

We working class girls would knock the shit out that little puke and his friends. They couldn't handle the shameless fucking we would lay on them, without benefit of booze or roofies....but WE didn't want their stupid, fuzzy little asses. They preyed upon their own and for good reason.

The worst part of this person is his lying. He lies about being a virgin when women have come forward to say he dangled his dick in their face? WTF?

"It's all lies!" they'll scream on FOX and how right they are. A virgin at a prep school through the 70's? Fuck me for being the fool who just cannot believe this, or that he didn't know those emails were stolen or that he's a political operative who wants to take 'abortion inducing drugs' away from women. He won't just vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, he'll fucking put us back into the Middle Ages.

He lies and lies and lies. Just like the fuck that nominated him.

Going back to the RR NY Times article. Someone mentioned it upthread but it really is odd to me that the event they wrote about happened over a year ago and they only now just published it. I think Im on the same lines as the poster above who said they feel like they sat on it and intentionally released it this weekend to give Orange cover.

That got me thinking. Aside from trying to divert from Kavanaugh why now? If he's trying to actually fire RR again, why now?

It makes me feel like there's an immediate desperation because he's really scared about something and I don't think it's about midterms. I really think he's been clued in on something like Mueller having something serious on him and he's panicking to try to get rid of him before it comes out.

Maybe that's too much to wish for? But it makes sense to me.

Deep throat that internalized misogyny, R259!

Not me, bitch. Tell that to your GOP fucking cunts. I never judged a sexually active woman because I was one and enjoyed the hell out of myself. BUT, I'm not blind and I hear how women speak about each other and particularly back then.

R262, that would be Manafort. His non-reaction when it was announced, a whole weekend without hate tweets, and since then silence on Manafort himself.

One can be a virgin and also an abusive pervert. They are not mutually exclusive.

Any gay man who is against a woman’s choice or says “meh, who cares, it’s fish” is myopic and doesn’t understand the threat taking away Roe vs Wade is. Think they’ll just stop at that? Next, gay equal rights and forced conversion therapy or gays just disappearing.

It doesn’t matter if you disagree with abortion. The point is ownership over your own body.

[quote]One can be a virgin and also an abusive pervert. They are not mutually exclusive.

But one probably isn't a virgin if they participated in gang rapes.

And one probably isn't a virgin if they spend their entire youth being an alcoholic so he could justify being drunk with his "best friend," so they had an excuse to be naked with one another. Just saying .

R269, your reasoning is all over the place and your statements unsupported. Bottom line one CAN be a virgin and still assault a woman sexually, simply by forcing her to do invasive things she doesn’t want to do. Everything from sodomy to foreign objects to simple nudity. Get a grip.

[quote]Everything from sodomy to foreign objects to simple nudity. Get a grip.

Your last sentence is a perfect example of self-assault.

Wow, R270 proves its a moron.

Oh, R270 is also a cookie clearer so troll away!

Putting aside the virgin rape stuff, any news on the Mueller front?

Analysis -- Cornered.

From article at R275

[quote]Nicker Akerman calls Mueller’s indictments “prosecutorial masterpieces”

Also from the article:

This move undermines one of the biggest defenses Trump has in his arsenal, raising the likelihood that Mueller's probe could uncover seriously damaging information about the president or those close to him.

"When Manafort’s testimony is combined with the additional testimony of Flynn, Cohen and Gates, it appears that Mueller is quite likely on the verge of handing down new major indictments," Akerman concluded. "These indictments could very well answer the ultimate question of what Trump knew and when he knew it."

R268 is correct. Kavanaugh (and any other like-minded justice) would willingly do away with the right to privacy (based on the 14th amendment) found in Griswold vs. Connecticut, and thus with the right to buy condoms and other forms of birth control and sexual protection. No such right was recognized by the courts until 1965 (and for unmarried people not until Eisenstadt v. Baird in 1972.

R278, if the Supreme Court ever did away with the right to privacy, I think it might lose its legitimacy with the majority of Americans.

Could happen, though.

So the idiot at r272 actually thinks that if someone drinks too much he can’t be a virgin and if someone’s a virgin he can’t be a rapist. Brilliant. Really who’s the moron here?

And r273 is so busy tracking down who and when someone clears cookies, (I’m not sure what the process is, but don’t everyone’s cookies get cleared every so often?) he must be on his way to get more butane for his meth torch, so he can light up and continue his mission. The only time I’ve knowingly cleared my cookies in this device was two days ago when I discovered my google searches were indicating that my IP address hailed from Miami. Since I don’t live inMiami, I thought resetting my location to factory settings would solve the problem. It didn’t. And I’m paying for that mistake. Before then I don’t remember ever conscientiously clearing cookies. Not sure I even know how to do it.

But r273, you keep your little tinfoil hat on and make sure you accuse everyone you can point your creepy little fingers to, that they are cookie clearers (whatever that means I’m not even sure). You’re a bore.

R280... got it wrong again... lol but you just doubled down.

[quote] You're a bore

And yet you felt compelled to respond, got it!

For what it's worth already have R280 on ignore.

lol way to miss the mark, R270

R280 was already on ignore for me. Her posts are too long and verbose too. Do you know how to write in a concise fashion, hon?

People who come on DL to announce who they think are trolls, cookie clearer’s,Russian trolls, Borises, etcetera are1) deluded (DL is neither big nor special enough to be a target for Russian spies, you schizos) 2)attention seekers with heroism fantasies 3) childish 4) a BORE!

[quote]actually thinks that if someone drinks too much he can’t be a virgin and if someone’s a virgin he can’t be a rapist. Brilliant. Really who’s the moron here?

The fact that you wrote that and came to that conclusion I would say you.

[quote](DL is neither big nor special enough to be a target for Russian spies, you schizos)

LOL oh boy.

And then they spend half the time unignoring or writing down the post numbers they missed so they can still see what their ignored choices are posting anyway. Such children- middle school level shit.

People who come on DL to announce that anyone who mentions trolls, cookie clearer's, Russian trolls, Borsises, etc. are delude are 1) deluded 2) attention seekers 3) mentally deficient.

"A member since 1999"

And unaware of the fact that paid trolls have infested this site since for years.

Someone is protesting way too hard.

Boys, boys remember my tutorial on identifying a certain Bellagio maid? R280 hits all the clues.

Just sayin’.

R288

R291 speaking of which.... she also really really really hates Brooke Shields!

[quote]And one probably isn't a virgin if they spend their entire youth being an alcoholic so he could justify being drunk with his "best friend," so they had an excuse to be naked with one another. Just saying .

This is what I’m calling moronic - Or do you actually think is it a scientific conclusion.??!

Yeah, we know, R294... you're a moron because you didn't get the post.

Who shat in her shoes?

Ha, still missing the mark.

No I’m not Davi da. Though her pictures always made me laugh.

But the next thing I’m gonna say is probably going to sound like her: I actually have met Brooke Shields (we belonged to the same college theater group though she’s five years younger than me) and I happen to love her. She’s the real thing. I don’t know where someone would get that I don’t like her but it’s probably one of those paranoid methheads who think they have the poster tracking system down with infallible accuracy by abusing the ignore button.

Very easy to mix up posters if you ignore fifty of them.,and then have to end up doing what r292 just did.

Some troll is ALL over the place on these threads today. Are you trying to distract from the fact that your retarded Cheeto was, quite literally, the laughingstock of the world this morning?

Reuters....

R298

R300 speaking of people who can't stop himself from doubling down.

Then explain your post r297. I already stated what I thought it meant, and all the retort or explanation we get from you is “you’re wrong you’re wrong you moron.” Very convincing.

I gotta love the pics of Trumps little puckered asshole mouth all pursed up. It’s revolting.

Your lack of comprehension isn't my problem . Read it again. Still don't get it? Read it again slowly. Still don't get it? Try moving your lips.

[quote]Some troll is ALL over the place on these threads today

Again, more random baseless crap. I’ve only started posting after I was called a moron for stating my interpretation of someone else’s post. But one or two of you have this delusion of being the ones to guard or rescue DL from the hands of Russian spies.

I am a liberal democrat who voted for Obama and then Hillary. But it’s amusing to see the conclusions this select group of DL knowitalls think.

You concluded this:

[quote]actually thinks that if someone drinks too much he can’t be a virgin and if someone’s a virgin he can’t be a rapist. Brilliant. Really who’s the moron here?

From this:

[quote]And one probably isn't a virgin if they spend their entire youth being an alcoholic so he could justify being drunk with his "best friend," so they had an excuse to be naked with one another. Just saying .

Sorry, I can't stop laughing.

Funny R306 took offense to that post and immediately reacted as though it was directed at them.

How many of you have come to the realization that attempting to defend yourself on the DL is a fool's game and only makes you look more idiotic than you ever thought possible?

And bores the fuck out of the rest of the posters?

Please raise your hands.

Why does Trump keep weighing in on each new accuser? His non-endorsement adds instant credibility to the women.

R306. Here’s a little piece of advice. Quit talking so much and being so defensive. That was a D-R hallmark.

You don’t have to respond to each and every post.

R309

He can't help himself R310. He's hoping someone will do the same for him when Ivanka accuses him.

First rule of Russian Boris Troll Club...

Can the two of you please take it elsewhere?

R315

Trump declaring that Ramierez was drunk is his way of signaling that she deserved whatever happened to her.

I haven't been reading all the back and forth for the last 30 or so posts. Who's the one accusing someone of trolling?

Who keeps posting threads with nothing by R315, R309???

No text or anything?

An idiot

[quote]"He was so truthful," Trump said about the judge’s interview on Fox News on Monday in which he denied the accusations. "He’s a high quality person, he’s a great intellect," Trump said in remarks to reporters at the United Nations, accusing Democrats of portraying Kavanaugh as someone he is not.

Jesus, he speaks like one of those pull string dummies you'd make for a 3 year old.

R320

Which one gets more women out to vote Dem for the midterms? --

Kavanaugh withdraws, new nominee pending

White House withdraws Kavanaugh (yes, I know Trump said he won't), new nominee pending

Senate approves Kavanaugh

Kavanaugh committee hearings extend through midterms

[quote]Who keeps posting threads with nothing by [R315], [R309]???

Someone who has blocked posters but ABSOLUTELY HAS TO KNOW WHAT THEY SAID!

Kinda pathetic, huh?

My opinion on the whole Rod Rosenstein resignation/firing/ultimate non-event on Monday, R262, is that it's further evidence of the WH seeding disinformation in various news sources so that no one knows what to believe anymore. It's a common tactic of authoritarians who want the public to rely only on their corrupt, authoritarian leaders for information.

Jonathan Swan of Axios was the first to report that RR had resigned (via telephone) to Chief of Staff John Kelly. (Axios' very existence depends entirely on WH sources, so they slavishly report whatever those sources want them to.) It most likely was Kelly himself that passed that absolutely false info on to Axios, knowing it would be reported immediately. Then, when other news outlets reported, variously, that RR was either not resigning, was actually being fired, etc., we, the public, were left not knowing up from down. In the end, RR, is still at DoJ, with the dangling possibility of going through this whole game again on Thursday, when he's scheduled to meet at the WH once more. Meanwhile, many people are accusing the NYT carrying water for the Trump Administration, while the NYT are similarly accusing other news sources of not being credible. The resulting shitstorm only serves the WH and their efforts to characterise all of the press as fake news.

The ultimate goal is to discredit any information doesn't come either directly from the WH itself or from its preferred propaganda arm, Fox News. A side benefit is that it also helps to distract from the GOP's absolutely shambolic handling of the Kavanaugh nomination -- hence the scheduling of RR's WH meeting on the same day as the Kavanaugh/Blasey Ford hearing.

I know which news sources I trust the most, but I take the time to evaluate even what those outlets report, especially "breaking news". I don't make up my mind until things settle a bit and the full news landscape can be seen with a bit more clarity. I rarely care about who reports news first, but rather what turns out to be demonstrably true or what ultimately proves to be the most credible. And that turns out never to be what either the WH or Fox News report.

R324

I suspect the third, R323, as riling up the anti-Republicans most. The first choice might be least effective if Trump then nominates a woman.

As well she should, R328. She's not on trial here.

r321 Trump the laughingstock of the UN is not a good character witness for anyone.

Kavanaugh is a fine example of be careful how you treat people on your way up because you will meet them on your way down. But he's just the pre-show for Trump's downfall.

This cabel news organization writer (CNN), views Lindsey Graham as one of the five best Senators in the U.S. Senate. Then, he expresses disappointment on Graham's comments expressing support for Kavanaugh, basically regardless of what Dr. Ford says in her testimony before the Judiciary Committee.

What is odd is the media has kept believing Graham is honest to the core, thinks, acts, and votes independently, and shows a willingness to consider all sides. What a charade. The media has perpetuated a false narrative on the Senator, and has given him regular, camera time to utter cutesy analogies and press an agenda in helf of DJT and the GOP haard-right establishment.

The Senatrice USED to be known that way. Things changed after that golf game with Trump. He was either told there was kompromat, outright bribed OR promised the AG role once Sessions was kicked out if he played along with cheetoh.

...in behalf of DJT and the GOP hard-right establishment.

Exactly, R333. It was so painfully obvious that the bloated deal maker twisted some arms or made an offer he couldn't refuse. It's been da' suck job ever since.

[Quote] I am a liberal democrat who voted for Obama and then Hillary. But...

...HER EMAILS!!!!!

Kavanugh vote is taking place on Friday morning at 9 AM.

Fuck you Republicans.

R33, this is actually worse than the Anita Hill hearing. They really have learned nothing.

The Republicans just keep kissing Trump ass, so apparently they aren't afraid. Is Russia going to help them win? I am afraid they are. If Russians tamper with the vote, will we be able to prove it?

Year after year we have to put up with Republican gerrymandering...why are Republicans so evil?

I had heard that the vote would be next Tuesday. So what are the shady repugs thinking?

There's a reason that despite all the IC stating that Russia did in fact hack our election the Rethugs refused to do anything to put any security measures in place.

So the Rethugs are basically just sticking their tongues out at everyone and making it even clearer:

"You want to come out with all this shit on Kav? Fine. We're going to let it be known we don't care and we're going to confirm him even if it comes out that he rapes baby kangaroos."

And they are voting on Friday morning according to MSNBC.

Vote is now Friday morning. If Avenatti has anything, he better come out with it pretty soon.

Avenatti has said that he is going to come out with the stuff on Thursday. Rethugs moved the vote to Fri after he said this.

It doesn’t matter if a woman comes forward with DNA proof of Kavanaugh being the father of her child, the vote will happen. Fuck them all. Everyone go vote and bring your elderly neighbours to the polls too (those who vote blue, that is).

I’m really tired of all this. Maybe the dems can impeach Kavanaugh when the time comes.

Well just remember even if they don't do anything about it Ford could technically try to have him prosecuted in MD.

I got my partner's 84 year old mother registered and raring to vote D out in Trump country.

The committee vote is Friday, not the floor vote.

And now Chuck Grassley says the judicial meeting is Friday, but they may or may not vote then.

[quote]Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1]

R351, that's why trump settled on trump university. If he had been found guilty, he could have been impeached.

CNN reported Hatch was expecting a Senate vote this weekend. We're at about 5 1/2 days until the Supreme Court's back in session. Somebody better move fast.

The cllaim that there are 11 Republican men on the Judiciary Committe iis only bio-technically correct. Miss Lindsey is reputably much more complex, when adding attitude, yearnings, manner, and adaptation.

So who is this Republican bitch lawyer who will be grilling Dr. Ford?

Yoo Hoo! Hey gurls, I'm the top lawyer hired to deal with those sensitive issues !

“Judicial quotes for 200, Alex:”

*(Card slides)*

11

“Yes, Peter”

“What is the amount of times Judge Kavanaugh asked for a fair process?”

Number, not amount, R357.

R325 is 100% correct. They are following the authoritarian playbook to the letter.

I'm old and tired of this shit. One step forward, ten steps back.

Told a male friend this morning that this felt like it always does when the patriarchy asserts itself: they do not value us. We truck along in naive ignorance of just how deep it goes, but here it is again and it hurts just the same, all over again.

From my contacts in a US congressman's office: A few Repug Senators are on the fence re: Brett. One is surprising. HOWEVER, a few Dems are leaning yes because they are red state Dems up for reelection. One Red state Dem has given a likely yes. This is why Turtle and the Repugs seem confident.

No names were given. My guess is- Repug on the fence obviously Murkowski and Collins. No idea who the surprising one could be. Dems leaning yes- Manchin is the likely yes. Donnelly and Heitkamp. Tester is a no. McCaskill is already on the record as no.

Any Democrat who votes for this cretin needs to go.

Just so I'm clear: It's not a question of whether or not Kavanaugh is guilty. That's irrelevant. It's whether or not enough Senators care that an abuser of women serves on the Supreme Court. As long as at least 50 are okay with it. Is that right?

Just like it's okay with the evangelicals that we have an attempted rapist as POTUS. It's more important that those women raped around allowed to abort their fetuses. Am I right?

Yes, R363. Rape, sexual abuse, it's irrelevant to these people. They do not care. And that's the best case scenario. The worst case is that they actually approve of it.

Regarding my congressional contacts- the situation is fluid. The Repugs in the Senate are turning people off, even "Likely yes Dem" with Turtle's shenanigans. They are freaked about Avenatti's new victim. My contacts have no clue but said those who know him don't think he would go this far without something huge. The surprising Repug is someone who voiced their concerns yesterday.

Chris Hayes just had a very funny segment showing at least 10 instances in which Trump - reading the TelePrompTer - reads the wrong word and simply inserts the word AND after the misread word, following it with the correct word, because god forbid he just admits he read the wrong word.

“Human struggling, AND smuggling, should not be tolerated!”

Gotta hand it to Rudy Giuliani, he does make a very presentable drag queen. However, it's way too familiar with him.

R366 hilarious. Any other examples?

Thanks for the info r365.

Am I the only one who doesn't completely trust Axios?

r319, if someone has someone blocked and sees a skipped post they can past the reply and click it to reveal the blocked poster.

There are some people here who block and unblock people to identify all of a person's posts.

Some evil manipulation if you know how to do it.

In related news from the UN, it seems that Slurry McBenzo's back. And then some.

Will somebody eventually bring up the fact that President Yeti Pubes sounds like Liza on the red carpet??

Indeed, R321

Axios showed us on Monday that being the first to report something doesn't make you the most trusted source for said news. People shouldn't let themselves get manipulated into freaking out and being glued to the TV screen or hit refresh in their browser app to catch the latest developments. I mean, that's some time and energy you never get back. The media basically steals your time and attention that could be used better elsewhere.

Adding to r374. And trolls, like here on Datalounge, do the same. They steal your time and energy when you pay attention to their comments and reply to them.

It's not just that Axios reported early on the Rosenstein thing that makes me not fully trust them. The guy that goes on the news shows all the time, I think he's the founder, just seems to equivocate too much and likes to play word games. He also just comes off as arrogant as hell. They seem to have become a go-to source very quickly without having to had to establish themselves as worthy of the trust necessary to do their job. I just see more issues like the Rosenstein one coming with them and wish they'd establish themselves a little more before becoming front page.

T368, ask and you shall receive. This clip is from a previous broadcast. Last night the montage of mistakes lasted like a full minute.

PIT people are so tiresome.

Stop trying to make PIT happen! It's NEVER going to happen!

Regina, r379

I wonder---do the really wealthy, the 1%ers, actually schlep to polling places; or do they simply bribe?

Manchin is de facto a Republican. I mean, to the point of quisling.

A case currently before the Supreme Court could make any pardons that Trump issues (e.g. to Manafort etc.) apply also to proceedings at the state level, which would neuter a lot of the charges against those guys coming out of the Mueller investigation.

R383 What's the point of worrying about that? Concentrate on turning Congress blue. Then the Dems can overwhelm him with investigations to the point he won't be able to wiggle out of it... pardon or no pardon.

??? R384, we can concentrate on getting out the vote and turning Congress blue while at the same time keeping an eye on the legal and juridical machinations of the right wing.

R385 If Trump is directly implicated in the case, there is no way he will be able to pardon without paying a huge political cause since it's a direct obstruction of justice and an implicit admission of guilt. And if Congress is in Democratic, there would be even more deterrence and bigger consequence for abusing his pardon power.

R378

I really hope Heitkamp doesn't vote for Kavanaugh. Right now, the North Dakota Democratic Party and her campaign are letting Kevin Cramer have it for his comments about it not being actual sexual assault. She could always point out that one can be offended by his comments but still believe in Kavanaugh's innocence, but way too many voters would still consider it hypocrisy.

/ignore R378

I saw a clip of Trump this morning, he was so angry at Democrats he was spitting nails, I think he was thisclose to having s stroke. The stupid ignorant piece of shit was actually putting a nail in Kavanaughs coffin.

Can you find the clip R392?

People telling others in the thread how to act or who to ignore are so tiresome.

r394, Not as tiresome as the concern troll(s). And I believe some newbies may indeed benefit from reading these comments about how to navigate through Datalounge.

You have a valid point r395. And you stated it nicely.

Bumping so the trolls don't bury the kav related threads

Now China is interfering in US elections?! This nutcase has got to go. You wake up everyday thinking what the F this moron will make up today.

Holy shit. This Trump press conference is INSANE.

I'm not watching his conference. He is such a profuse liar there is no need. I already know he is pulling out of his shitstained ass a load of conspiracy theories. Everything is everyone else's fault except his. And the Repugs like to say they are the party of responsibility. Of course we know they are the exact opposite in every way.

Everyone is saying this briefing shows he's lost his marbles.

He showed us he lost them a long time ago... but I agree that listening to pieces of it.. the fucker is certainly deranged.

The way that he rewrites history (telling all sorts of lies) so that he can believe this fantasy he creates? It's really fucking scary.

He actually stated that he only had 4 women accuse him of sexual assault... they were all paid to do so... that they appeared on the cover of the NY Times... that it turned out it was all a lie and they were furious they were used to tell such a lie... and that they all went on television and gave numerous interviews saying great things about him and saying that the accusations were a lie made up by the NY Times.

What. The. Fuck?

And yet, not a single "journalist" corrected him or asked follow up questions .....especially when he went off about women being paid to say bad things about him.....the obvious comeback would have been to ask about the women he paid to prevent them from saying bad things.

Also the way he backtracks on himself.

He calls the women liars. He says it's all bullshit and a game.

He then says he wants to hear what they say and they might be convincing and he might change his mind.

When asked if he thinks they're liars he says he doesn't know and that he needs to listen to what they have to say... and then proceeds to say it's all a lie by the Democrats who are laughing behind closed doors at how they've fooled all the people.

One of the pundits pointed out that because he kept lying and saying that all 3 women were testifying tomorrow... all the women should have their attorneys take that as an opportunity to show up and demand to be heard because Drumpf said they were allowed to testify!

And I'm sure this has been pointed out before but I rarely ever listen to him speak...

What the fuck is up with his breathing?

The pattern of it and the way he speaks... what the fuck is wrong with him?

Oh also the gem when the reporter asked him if he could understand why women don't report it because he has daughters...

He ignored the question entirely but I bet he wanted to respond:

"Yes, I have a daughter and I understand she loves it when I assault her."

He was a clown in 2016. The media coddled him. In 2018, the media is still coddling this clown. Nothing has changed.

Also, with today's false claim, I suspect Trump and his evil minions are trying to build up a military confrontation with China to distract people. The trade war isn't really working out as easy as Trump thought.

R407 I figured it was more about setting up losses in the House (and hopefully Senate) and therefore trying to null and void them.

I figure it's building up the eventual not guilty based on insanity defense.

Sometimes I just want to ask people in the media and with political power: How much more rope do you think is required for him to finally hang himself?

Watching him self destruct is nice 'n all, but when comes the fatal blow? Then everybody cheers, the credits start rolling and the lights go back on in the movie theatre and we can finally leave this terrible place and go back to our actual real lives?

R412 Do it, don't ponder it! Shit or get your ass off the toilet!

Succinct and upsetting details from the victim at r411; detailed without being so graphic as to be salacious. She makes the clear point: she was terrified by Kavanaugh's assault on her 15 year old self and has suffered repercussions from it since.

She also clearly and unequivocally identifies her assaulter as BK. This will be hard for the Rethugs to counter.

R411 No wonder the pathetic brain trust of GOP senators are hiding behind some female prosecutor. This women is sharp and going for the jugular.

Breaking now: FOURTH allegation against Kavanaugh!!

A drunken Kavanaugh allegedly slammed a woman against a wall outside of a DC bar in the 90s. There are witnesses!

"It’s a con job! The Democrats are all con men!"

R416 link? If so, this will definitely be the end of his nomination.

Yes just reported on NBC Nightly News- 4th victim in 1998.

R418 it's breaking on MSNBC right now.

And how old was he in 1998?

The Senate probing a new allegation between Kavanaugh is becoming a daily thing.

And still it probably won't matter.

Old enough for him to know not to knock a woman around.

r422, 33

But I was still a virgin in 1998!

He would have been 33 years old in 1998.

Like my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I was a Virgin at 33.

And the Repugs knew ALL of this (and more) which needs to be pointed out. The 65 names released in record time. The FUCKING REPUGS knew and know all of this shit. Yet, they were still going to push this creep through. Why? Why him? It is alarming the lengths they will go for Brett. They could have gotten another wacko RW nutcase. But no, they wanted THIS particular one.

[quote] Like my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I was a Virgin at 33.

And I'm looking forward becoming 33 years old in a couple of years.

Exactly R429.. why him?

[quote]It is alarming the lengths they will go for Brett.

It is alarming the lengths they will go for Vladimir.

How did they know Kavanaugh in 1998? Was he well known then, or were the witnesses associates of his? Details, please!

Trump wants Kavenaugh to save his ass when it comes to impeachment and the GOP wants Kavenaugh to push through their conservative agenda. Plus he's clearly one of them, a sociopath.

Miss Lindz and Tutleneck can cry "Dem conspiracy" all they want but the fact is, none such "false acquisitions" (tm Cheeto) were brought up against Gorsuch.

R433, this was in a letter or similar by a woman whose daughter was in a DC bar at the time and saw this unfold and mentions several people who witnessed this. What I didn't get is if the daughter and other witnesses were friends with this woman who was attacked and were together with her at the bar, or just bystanders.

1998 would have been near or around the time he worked with Ken Starr's team on the Clinton impeachment inquest and hearings.

They want Kavanaugh because he's already signaled his legal belief that sitting Presidents shouldn't be indicted and will vote favorably in this topic area should it come up in front of SCOTUS re Trump. He's also allegedly indicated he doesn't believe in double jeopardy, ie when someone can be brought up for similar charges in both Federal and state courts without one cancelling the other. This of course has big implications for #45 and his current band of mischief makers, since Mueller and his team have been carefully coordinating many charges with state AGs (NY) to make sure any potential Presidential pardon absolving federal responsibility is countered with state charges.

r436 It has to be more than that. I am sure ACB or ANY of the ones on the sociopathic SC short list would do the exact same. Hell, they already assume the other 4 conservative justices will, so why not feel the others on the short list would?

It is much, much bigger than that.

I agree R437. They can easily get any other person to agree to do all those things for Drumpf. There's a particular reason they don't just want, they NEED, Brett.

R437 I just think Trump and Kavanaugh bonded from both being sleazy sociopaths who hate women.

Do they even no each other, r439?

Remind me... wasn't Kav NOT Drumpf's original pick? He wasn't even on Drumpf's original list?

Well there's also the fact that he was hand picked as successor by the retiring Justice Kennedy. Kind of a quid pro quo thing going on there. It was supposedly part of the agreement in getting Kennedy to retire early.

If we believe the media reports, McTurtle wasn't so hot on Kavanaugh but Cheeto pushed for him because his views on executive power are fully and completely in his (Cheeto's) corner.

And why did Kennedy want him? Kennedy was supposed to be the more moderate Rethug and Kav is anything but. So why did he want him?

r441 Correct, he wasn't on the original short list. He was placed on it after Kennedy stepped down. Then he gets picked after not being on the original list.

R442 I kind of agree that may be it BUT the frantic nature of their actions all the while knowing all this dirt is out there is strange and alarming.

And why did Kennedy retire so quickly? Were they afraid or did they know that Drumpf would most likely be out sooner rather than later and wanted to ensure he got to choose the replacement?

Ask about those Deutsch Bank loans r446.

R440 One drink together, and these men will recognize a fellow sleaze.. i.e. pussy grabber. Sociopaths don't have friends nor do they bother to know anyone. Either you play for his team to help advance his cause or you don't.

JFC:

Breaking: Senate investigating FIFTH Accuser.

^^^My god, are you fucking kidding me? Those two assholes were raping woman together throughout the 1980s all along the Eastern seaboard.

Accusers #4 & #5 are fake ones that the Repugs are using to discredit the others. They're trying to muddy the waters so that none of them look believable. Don't fall for it.

R451 I find it unfathomable that they would do that—not because they’re spectacular gents, but the risk is overwhelming. If this were the case and it was going out, it would blow up the works to smithereens.

^it got out...

Now that Kavanaugh's ugly face has been plastered all over the internet and tv, people are recognizing him. More are sure to come forward.

Just wanted to say that I hate the title of this thread because every time I see the word 'mushroom' I think of Trump's mushroom-headed dinky bits and dry heave.

R451, the boat one seems to be fake but are we sure about the 4th one, outside a bar? And, if these fuckers were any good at subterfuge, they'd have had any fake stories take place when he was a teenager. Why would they want to pretend things happened after he was an adult if they were trying to muddy the waters? Just makes him seem like he never stopped his rapey ways.

The 4th one sounds legit to me because it was sent to a Republican and the story is that he was a mean violent drunk. Which is what John Heilemann stated about his friend Mark Judge - as Heilemann was working as a bartender in DC at the time, and what is basically the gist of Dr Ford's story, that they were drunk and violent, esp. Kavanaugh.

The 4th woman wrote that her daughter was in a circle of friends with Kavanaugh in DC, who was dating a friend of hers at the time, and that friend and the daughter decided they want to stay anonymous.

It is not that hard, I guess, by the FBI to ascertain who he was dating at the time.

How did this guy have time to go to law school, and work with Ken Starr to bring down the Clintons? what with all the raping and all. Very busy!

Well, the background investigation is not intended to be made public, so the women could speak to the FBI and still not be revealed publicly. Comments that people make to the FBI are supposed to stay confidential. The only people who can read the BIs are people authorized to do so at DOJ, the WH, and on the respective Senate Committees.

The Committees in Congress leak like a sieve.

True enough, R459, but leaking a BI from the FBI is risky business. The Bureau takes the confidentiality very seriously. While Congress generally leaks constantly, I'm not aware of BI information being in that same category.

[quote]Do it, don't ponder it! Shit or get your ass off the toilet!

R413, it would be for show, something that could only delay the vote by a few hours. Confirmation votes for a Supreme Court Justice cannot be filibustered under Senate rules.

Dump said he can be convinced of anything at this mental breakdown today.

"Da, da, vy mozhete" ... Putin

Rosenstein may be the one clear loser of this situation. If it goes not so well for the judge tomorrow, Cheeto may decide to withdraw him and take Rosenstein's head instead to look like a winner.

It was Kavanaugh that wrote all the salty, sexual, narratives of Bill Clinton -Monica encounters for Ken Starr's report.

By the way, Ken Starr's has been all over cable TV promoting/defending Kavanaugh. Starr was fired a couple of years ago as President of Baylor University for his disturbing oversight of personnel who were covering up multiple sexual assault/rape complaints by women students concerning members of the football team. Nobody interviewing Starr is bringing this up. It is absurd to give Starr air time on this matter.

r464 It is a dereliction of duty!

But Drumpf can't touch RR because Hannity told him not to!

📌M: Rumor has it Justice Kennedy’s son (Deutsch Bank) is cooperating with the Mueller probe - something about some conspiracy to launder dirty RU mob money and a 1B loan to 45.

📌GOP are freaked re Butina singing about her dirty RU 💰- ergo the KAV sh*tshow.

There would be some justice if all the dirt on Kennedy's son and how they forced Kennedy to quit came out.

We're assuming that all, or most, of these incidents were unknown and weren't found by the FBI during the background investigation. But, remember, that background report is ordered by the White House and the findings are given to the White House in order to make the nomination. The results of the original background check could very well have shown all of this but the White House was the only body to see it. It wouldn't have been shared with Congress because they supposedly run their own investigation, outside the original nominating investigation.

We know Trump thinks these kinds of attacks on women are no big deal. Trump may have known all about it and just gone ahead anyway because 'What's the big deal about a few rape-y incidents? He didn't even succeed!" I hope Kavanaugh has to withdraw and Trump finally strokes himself into a vegetative state and then put in a hospital where he is routinely tortured for the rest of his sorry life.

Hope nothing's wrong.

[quote]And I'm sure this has been pointed out before but I rarely ever listen to him speak... What the fuck is up with his breathing?

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R467, I hope she is right!

I think Kennedy should just show up at the Court on October 1st and sit down as if he never announced his retirement. There was something so strange about it anyway.

If the Dems had any balls they'd seat Anita Hill behind Kavanaugh during the hearing.

They won't of course.

What a queen.

40 days.

It feels like the midterms will never get here. I don't know what will happen but it will be epic if the Democrats take the house and senate.

r467, enough with the plagiarism. Either contribute your own thoughts or piss off.

Shouldn’t Mueller have a bodyguard at this point? It worries me that any Deranged Deplorable can currently walk into an Apple Store wielding a knife or a gun.

r477, we are on part 53 of this chronological thread and some things bear repeating.

Plus, you need to be slapped viciously you Russian troll. Plagiarism? On DL?

Tell Olga in HR to update your online thesaurus.

[quote] But, remember, that background report is ordered by the White House and the findings are given to the White House in order to make the nomination. The results of the original background check could very well have shown all of this but the White House was the only body to see it. It wouldn't have been shared with Congress because they supposedly run their own investigation, outside the original nominating investigation.

R468, your premise is flawed: the BI that the Bureau produces for the White House is the same BI that is sent up to the Senate Judiciary Committee. The FBI Background Unit keeps the original BI and sends a copy to the White House. That is the same copy that is then delivered to the Senate Judiciary Committee, where it remains until the nomination process is complete.

It is not surprising that the allegations were not in one of the six prior BIs. They really only interview a closed circle of people. If the agents hear anything from those folks that needs clarification, they will then expand that circle.

There's a new book coming out on Oct. 2 about Trump. This seems focused on the transition.

r467, your inability to contribute original thought to the discourse and other people being aggravated by your insistence upon bringing a bag of shit to the potluck does not make those people trolls. In fact, trolls are the ones who copy paste without comment because they're thoughtless, in the most literal sense of the term. You don't win any points for adding *more* noise to the room. And your insistence upon posting the thoughts of others as your own degrades both the message that person intended to share and the quality of the entire conversation. You are the human equivalent of shitty tv show flashback filler.

As we know the Trumpaneeze will lie about anything and everything if they think it keeps the lowlife in office.

These threads have always been filled with people just sharing links to articles by copying and pasting. The sudden aggression about it seems tedious.

I'd rather have the posts with links than constant complaining about "noise" in the thread which is in itself useless, "noise."

Link to today's Senate hearing in case anyone needs it.

Grassley: I want to say that we apologize for the difficulties you have had to endure and we will do our very best to make sure you are both comfortable... now I'm going to go ahead and take a minute to point out that Ford is a lying liar who should have come out with this sooner but didn't because she is basically a tool for the Dems to try to stall and obstruct!

Dotard apparently postponed meeting with Rosenstein to next week.

Oh sure. If today goes badly for them (and spoiler alert: it’s going badly for them), then Rosenstein will probably pay the price.

and so what, R488? That hasn't stopped the guilty verdicts, pleas and the convictions still to come. Rosenstein did his job and did it well.

Wow. Milano got herself a prime gig... sitting right behind Kavanaugh!

I like the word “shambolic”

I can't watch any of these hearings. How is it going? I have it on mute. I saw Alyssa Milano! LOL. Love it.

The Fifth Risk by Michael Lewis will publish Oct. 2. It's about the shambolic transition by the Trump brain trust. Get this though :

Pennsylvania was finally called. It was 1.35am, but that wasn’t the only reason the feeling in the room was odd. Mike Pence went to kiss his wife, Karen, and she turned away from him. “You got what you wanted, Mike,” she said. “Now leave me alone.” She wouldn’t so much as say hello to Trump.

Imagine how awful you think it could have been and how disgusting you think the Repugs could be and then multiply it by 40 and you'd get an idea, R492.

I'm interested in why Pence seemingly abdicated all responsibility for the transition.

R495, Mama didn't raise no dumb queen.

R438, Because Kavanaugh can be controlled via blackmail re: sexual assaults.

Could Alyssa Milano be DL's next Daphne Zuniga? Though in Alyssa's case there is some kind of connection and it's not so random after all.

Some Mueller related news.

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Hey, was anyone else signed out of Facebook this morning? Is that a proactive attempt to stop or slow a Bot action.

r501.....first of all, don't write your passwords on a sticky note; use a password manager. two, you should always log out of your accounts after you're done using them. 3, clearing your cookies/cache/browser-history, which it sounds like you probably have no idea how to do, will also log out of accounts; this is also something you should be doing regularly to get rid of cross-site trackers, 4) an AI telemarketing bot called me on the phone and refused to confess to being a robot when I asked so we can't take your denials of being 10101010s at face value.

Password managers also have issues. Two factor is really the only way to go. Personally I like physical tokens because I am old. But hey Facebook isn’t CUI.

r503, ok, then you're just paranoid. And, no, sticky notes are not as safe as a password manager and no 2-factor causes as many problems as it solves. But whatever I only work in infosec, I'm not an expert like you.

There, there, r504. You are an expert in being a snarky, cunty, bitch.

Clearing the cache of cookies will take away your DL posting privileges. I use two ISPs to post here so I can clear cookies without losing the ability to reply.

Flake is vote "yes" on Kavanaugh, MSNBC just announced.

fuck off and die Jeff Flake.

voting ^^^^

Coward. It’s all over folks. I fear the midterms are hacked as well.

Fuck off Mark Judge, somebody needs to subpeona his ass.

Avenatti and his client need to bring a case against Kavanaugh. That might put a spanner in the works.

I get why you're afraid, R509, but that's useless in this battle. Either you're a bot and will excuse this shit, or you'll listen to what people are saying to you and grow a pair.

I hope Avenatti files a case at the last minute today.

The Democrats should just get up and leave showing they are no longer gong to participate in this farce.

You tell em' DiFi!

Please dont believe that Flake or any other Rethug were ever going to do anything but vote yes

Yeah 515, I fully expect the two women in question to totally vote "yes" now too.

Fuck em' all.

Glad some of the Democrats walked out.

I hope women across this country take the Repugs to the cleaners this fall.

Collins and Murkowski will vote yes too. And that will give cover for Manchin, Heitkamp and Donnelly to vote yes and probably save their re-elections. I won't hold that against them. I mean why risk your re-election for something that's already a done deal?

[quote[I fully expect the two women in question to totally vote "yes" now too.

Again, they were always going to.

r518, Uh..I don't know, principle maybe?

that's the problem, nobody has any principles anymore.

I agree with R521.

er. I agree with R520.

Side question, how many of you post from your mobile?

Does anyone have an issue of a severe keystroke lag when trying to post from a phone?

Coward Jeff Flake, wouldn't even look that woman in the eye.

Bastard.

Oh, I don’t know, R518, maybe something to do with dignity and courage?

I'll add integrity to that, r526.

Flake was only putting on a pretty show when he spoke earlier this week, he was never going to vote no. Everyone needs to keep harassing these GOP turds e v e r y w h e r e they go. Remind them of their shamefulness.

When was the last time a Rethug had integrity?

They will shrug it off, because Kavenaugh will do their bidding for decades as SCOTUS. This is something they will benefit from longterm and they are not going to drop that for some short-term inconvenience.

In other news: Rod Rosenstein is being called to testify before Congress bout his alleged proposal that the Justice Department secretly record President Donald Trump and invoke the 25th Amendment to oust him from the Oval Office.

“Leadership has agreed to call Rod Rosenstein before Congress, for a closed door hearing with our panel investigating, so he can explain his alleged comments on ‘wiring’ POTUS,” Mark Meadows, the chairman of the hardline conservative House Freedom Caucus, tweeted Friday.

Republicans will want to probe Rosenstein on “other inconsistent statements” as well, Meadows indicated in his tweet.

If RR shouts and screams and cries and says that this is just a political hit job.... will they just decide to turn a blind's eye?

Yes, R527, that’s the word I meant in the first place. Integrity.

HRC's cameo on the Murphy Brown show makes me so damn angry. I feel robbed of a great and prosperous reality. And I blame Putin, the GOP, Trump, and their supporters, for that.

She was fantastic though. And I love that she has always had a good sense of humor about herself.

Why doesn't anyone on the left do some investigating into people like Lindsay, Ryan, Nunes, and McTurtle? Are we too above that?

Start a go-fund-me for a Lindsay Graham investigation.

It would raise a fortune.

Seriously ^

I wonder if that's legal or if they'd flag you for harassment?

Who else goes on the list of people we want to see go down?

Embarrassed to be an American.

Sharing this:

Why they need this judge:

"What’s the rush with Kavanaugh you say? Why not investigate? Here is why: So it is now very clear why the GOP is so desperate to get Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court by next month that they would schedule a vote before hearing from Dr. Ford or any other witness that comes forward. BIG STAKES HERE... if you check out SCOTUSblog, you will see that on next month's docket is: Gamble v. U.S., No. 17-646. Issue(s): Whether the Supreme Court should overrule the "separate sovereigns" exception to the double jeopardy clause. They are desperate. The plan was to appoint Kavanaugh early this week so that he would be seated in time for this ruling. It was in the bag. Saves everyone involved from state charges. Not only Trump but all políticos who were knowingly enriched by the $$$ funneled through the NRA into the coffers of McConnell, Graham, Rubio, Ryan, etc. So if Kavanaugh gets appointed he’d effectively vote to stop states from charging Trump or anyone else involved. Obstruction of justice."'

R543 Oh no!

Quit being so scared of everything.

It’s not illegal to hire a private investigator or a investigative media production group.

Repugs do it all the time.

If someone would just start the gofundme then we could all donate and get this going TODAY!

Or else quit bitichig about it if you’re not gonong to lift a finger.

I think they have too much power to be stopped now.

R545 who said anything about fear? And it's funny you're making those comments, then why haven't you started it?

I’m not the one constantly going on about it but I will donate generously.

So many flaws in R545.

I keep thinking I'm going to wake up from this nightmare.

Here is the link for any enterprising journalist who might want to start a fund for this.

Looks pretty easy peasy

R551, there's a lot more to it than just starting the fund. Who would you hire and why would we trust that the money would be used for investigating Graham? Fucking Jill Stein took me for $50, so I'm skeptical.

Nobody has been "constantly going on about it."

Youre the one saying someone should do it and then bitching that people should get off their asses and do something.. but you havent.

So.

Exactly, R552. It can't just be some rando that starts up the fund.

Curious R552 have you or has anyone looked into a lawsuit against Stein for how she used that money? I didn't contribute to her so I don't know what's been done with regard to that.

Just watched that clip of Hillary and to think that is what we could have had.

Now that creep Stone is trying to setup a narrative that he might be "framed" in the Mueller investigation.

Why is he even talking about it, R557?

Is an indictment about to come out?

And to answer who else we want added on the list:

Chaffetz

Pence

Miller

Ivanka

Jared

Jr.

KAC

I really am stunned at how much they keep getting away wit.

I was hoping Aveantti would have his client try to press charges before today's hearing.

I am, too. I’m afraid they are going to get away with everything. I’m beyond angry

I like how Avenatti goes after their lies.

R563 it makes me physically sick.

Oh I'm adding Stein and Sanders - three of them to the list.

Let's throw in Cruz and Rubio.

It feels more like the Republican Party is playing 3D chess while the democrats are playing checkers.

The republican't party doesn't even have 3D faces.

R571 no.

Republicans are playing checkers and the Democrats have just gone home.

Why do Republicans have such awful skin?

Ted Cruz's face also makes me physically ill.

Democrats have gone home because they've just given up.

Lifting a term from organized prostitution.....

Miss Lindzey let it be known, in no uncertain terms, she's Trump's bottom bitch.

Anybody can start a fund.

You then hire professional investigators with the fund.

No, Rethugs are too busy playing Durak.

Then do it already, R579.

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Oh look.. he's a lying liar. Shocked!

Kyle Griffin: Kavanaugh repeatedly said he was legally allowed to consume beer as a prep school senior in Maryland.

In fact, he was never legal in high school because Maryland's drinking age increased to 21 at the end of his junior year, while he was still 17, AP says.

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[quote] Why is he even talking about it, [R557]?

[quote] Is an indictment about to come out?

He's controlling the narrative so the Deplorables believe that poor Stone is indeed framed by those Nazi Liberals when he's getting indicted. When he doesn't get indicted it's beause he stood his ground and is a brave hero who stood up to those Nazi Liberals. Win-Win!

Yes, R585 but is he doing it now because he knows one is about to come down on him?

r586, he's preparing for the possiblity. Future will tell if (and when) is right or not.

Sorry. Future will tell if (and when) HE is right or not.

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And now we need more accusations against Kav to come out... and you know there are more victims out there.

No doubt. There is no way there are not more victims of his rage.

I seriously can't with all this roller coastering.

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