Henry Cavill's collapse is complete! Warner Brothers is firing him as Superman.

But they haven’t fired Affleck?!

Did Warner fire him? I thought Cavill walked away because Warner was wasting his time.

[Quote]Henry Cavill Out

Do we think the writer did this on purpose?

In all seriousness, how many fucking Superman reboots must there be before the idiots stop paying to see it?

So the announcement of the Netflix deal (Witcher) is to save face?

Does anyone expect anything great from a DC movie? They might have kept him on to keep expectations low istead of lowering them even further.

Aaw ! Poor Henry. It was important for him. They really wasted his time and the oportunity to have a Superman look alike.

Did they fire the scriptwriter, too ?

Now, I hope Cavill will do better things and I wish they would slow down in the super heroes reboots. But I'm not kidding myself.

[quote]But they haven’t fired Affleck?!

From the article:

As such, Cavill will join Ben Affleck, who isn't expected to reprise his role for director Matt Reeves' forthcoming Batman stand-alone film, as a hero on the way out.

Here's the reason, hidden in the linked story itself:

[quote]"Superman is like James Bond, and after a certain run you have to look at new actors," says a studio source.

Henry will be the new Bond after Daniel Craig's last movie.

[quote]"There's a recognition that some parts of the previous movies didn't work," says the studio insider. Another source says Warners is trying to hit a "reset" button with the DC universe, steering its ship slowly into another direction.

Neither Cavill nor Batfleck were the problem with any of the Superman or Justice League movies.

The movies and scripts were just plain terrible and downright silly - Martha!

No one could have or would have been appealing enough to make any of those movies successful.

GOOD. Sick of his boring ass.

Poor bastard. Doesn't he have like 20 siblings and their families to provide for?

I remember James Franco blabbing about it being Cavill's, his Tristan and Isolde co-star, dream to play Superman and basically saying what kind of idiot actor dreams of playing Superman? Like way to reach for the stars.

Coz 'e sux

I'm pretty sure Cavill was thinking about the money side of it, R13, not the acting challenge involved.

[quote] Neither Cavill nor Batfleck were the problem with any of the Superman or Justice League movies.

Are you kidding? You could practically see Affleck's man-girdle underneath his batsuit. The guy was too fat for playing Batman! It made the whole thing uncomfortable expecting Batman to keel over and die from all the action he had to endure.

R14, you don't have to be Laurence Olivier to play Superman. He was perfect fo that specific gig. The direction and script are to blame.

On the plus side, I can now stop pretending I care for those retard super hero comics.

So they kept Snyder on way passed when they should have dumped him, even though it was BEYOND obvious to anyone not on huge amounts of drugs that his shiteous vision sucked ass but they'll heave both Cavill and Affleck?

OK, then. Yeah. Makes all kinds of sense.

A great, or even a good, actor can elevate a terrible script with charm and charisma. Cavill has no charm and nocharisma which made the lousy script even more obvious. Even CW shows would pass on him because no teenage girl or gay boy would get their pussies wet for him anymore.

[quote]Are you kidding? You could practically see Affleck's man-girdle underneath his batsuit. The guy was too fat for playing Batman! It made the whole thing uncomfortable expecting Batman to keel over and die from all the action he had to endure.

By the Justice League, the point was that Batman was old, broken down, and tired of fighting the good fight (alone).

And even still, that story, script, and direction were abysmal.

I don't think Affleck was a good Batman in any case, but the problem with that movie go well beyond him.

[quote]A great, or even a good, actor can elevate a terrible script with charm and charisma.

No one could have elevated any of those scripts. It makes you wonder who and how they ever got approved by anyone - clearly an example of too many cooks pointing their fingers at everyone else.

[quote]In all seriousness, how many fucking Superman reboots must there be before the idiots stop paying to see it?

Well, I would like an origin story. How did he become Superman? Where did he come from? Who are his parents? Does he have any inherent weaknesses?

Good riddance. He had the emotional range of a British teaspoon.

[quote] Sick of his boring ass.

His ass is not boring. The rest of him is.

[quote] Doesn't he have like 20 siblings and their families to provide for?

And a dog.

They have to Marvel-ize the DC crap. Remove all the depressing shit and make it funny. Going to be hard not to veer towards campy. Good luck, AT&T.

Cavill's made his money. He's headed to Netflix now. Whatever. He flies in private jets. He's good.

I blame the Spiderman re-boots for that. DC thinks if Marvel gets away with it they should be, too.

Thank god. He couldn't act for shit and his looks were fading fast.

r25, I give you Aquaman:

The whole DC movie franchise is rotten to the core. Sure, get rid of the actors, but if you hold on the writers and the idiots who greenlight the shit in the first place, you really expect an improvement?

And Shazam! (which admittedly is aimed towards kids:

Because Affleck wanted to play Batman, they had to make the character old and broken down in Justice League. They've would have only had to have minor script changes with a younger Batman.

By the time Warners gets their act together on how to get a good Superman film, Cavill will be too old and certainly wouldn't be able to do another sequel after that.

[quote] He flies in private jets.

Actually it doesn’t he does that much. He seems to fly commercial typically with his support dog (don’t ask me what the dog supports).

R32, "He flies in private jets" doesn't assert that he does it all the time/much. You read that into "He flies in private jets." Precision of language. Parse when you read.

He was a pretty bore. He played Superman as an aspies blank. No spot on Christopher Reeve, who was uniquely magical. Fuck these dumb comic book movies

Damn. As long as he was tied with Superman I could avoid him easily. Now he's going to to be stinkng up projects all over the place.

He has his fuck you money, let hi m go.

He's unlikeable and does nothing for charity. Zero social conscience. He sucks.

I agree r21, it worked for Spider-Man.

[quote] Because Affleck wanted to play Batman, they had to make the character old and broken down in Justice League.

I am sure Zac Snyder had to be beat into submission to deviate from the sunny disposition of his Batman, Superman and Justice League franchise vision.

[quote] does nothing for charity

He supports Durrell Wildlife Conservation!

You’re correct, R33 aka Katie Holmes.

[quote] A great, or even a good, actor can elevate a terrible script with charm and charisma. Cavill has no charm and no charisma which made the lousy script even more obvious.

Oh please. One doesn't need to be Larry Oliver to make a superhero film! Gal is no thespian. Jason is no thespian. Hell, even the Oscar winners among the franchise were all but sleepwalking through their roles. It doesn't matter. The DCEU is an all but a dead franchise.

I will miss his gorgeously muscled furry body. Stupid Warner Bros execs. They must be anti-gay Trumptards. lol

Just put Patty Jenkins in charge the whole thing!

Wonder Woman was amazing, had a real heart,humor, drama, was beautifully shot, wasn’t focused on selling an agenda or message or being grim and important.

Christopher reeve had that quality not a lot of actors do where he was able to “radiate” absolute goodness. I saw that with Gal Gadot in “Wonder Woman”too.

Cavill was the very least of their problems. What a dippy decision.

[quote] Oh please. One doesn't need to be Larry Oliver to make a superhero film!

You need one who can make and ultra-super-shitty script work. Cavill failed. The script was total shit. He didn't help. It was a match made in shit. Cavill can laugh all the way to the bank, but he's covered in shit while doing so.

Sorry, who can make AN ultra-super-shitty script work.

I hated everything about this Superman. His hulk like body, balding hairline, constant furrowed face and most of all his robotic way of moving and delivery. Wish Cavill luck but he belongs on CW.

Lol at whoever said up thread he’d be the next Bond. Uh, Bond has to have charm and charisma, something Cavill utterly lacks. Never gonna happen.

R47 Maybe he'll show up on the CW eventually like Routh and Cain.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Bring back Routh!

Superman Returns may have had issues but I don’t think he was one of them.

After Witcher he will thank his lucky stars if Dancing With The Stars calls.

Routh is too good, and too hot even at his age, for this shit show.

There's always a career in gay porn as a power bottom.

That Captain Marvel/Shazam is too buff for his skull size.

I find Routh rather charming on CW's Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow. He is good at being a good looking goofball. His guest role on Lady Dynamite was hilarious.

R50 that ship has sailed.

Apparently, the report says they want to cast Michael B Jordan as Superman. And Trump wins reelection.

[quote] Just put Patty Jenkins in charge the whole thing.

WW was somewhat overrated. Gal Gadot is pretty but her acting...

The story was not great. The movie was only mildly entertaining. But I am glad it did well and we'll see more of the character.

Henry Cavill did well as Superman under Joss Whedon's scenes in Justice League. Joss let him behave more like classic Supes and have some fun rather than the Snyder bullshit. The problem with Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman was Zack Snyder.

Gal Gadot did WW perfectly. In the comics, in every story where they show her entry to "Man's world" she's always supposed to come off naive, eager, and generally childlike. She comes from a technologically primitive paradise after all. I was actually surprised at how well Gadot balanced that with also seeming confident and sure of herself

Absolutely agree a huge part of the problem was Snyder's over emotional and depressing take on Superman. He works WAY better as an upbeat somewhat aloof guy

R24, r32, Are they rescue dogs?

R56

Call it back to port then!

Another overpaid white U.K. actor out of a job....awwwww.

What about Tom Wellling?

American studios hire UK actors specifically because they are less expensive (and less troublesome) than American actors.

Henry had the perfect look. Maybe he can be in some other type of Superman movie like the way Bette had Jezebel after she lost GWTW. I wonder if Ben Affleck made Hollywoodland to get execs to picture him in one of the franchises? Once you get in you’re pretty much set.

R19, yes, sometimes, an actor can elevate the material, but there is a limit on what one can do.

Have you seen the chaotic editing in Man of Steel ? How could they realise such an incoherent mess ? Daniel Day Lewis himslef could not make it better.

Now, this is what he will be missing. ...

[quote] There's always a career in gay porn as a power bottom.

Why a bottom?

[quote] Bring back Routh!

I agree. Excellent and handsome actor.

R69 is adorable!

[quote] R69 is adorable!

Why am I adorable?

It’s all because Zack Snyder and Charles Roven are a fucking MESS in life, hunty!

Is he gonna get fat now?

R10 is correct.

Affleck was miscast as Batman .

I think more for being a pussy than a fat alcoholic.

But no one would have made a good movie out of the shit sandwich for a script that came out of Snyder/Warner Brothers.

Michael Keaton was miscast in Tim Burton’s Batman and that rocked — because there was vision and literary competence.

Fat Cavill

It might not be a disavowal of Cavill, but rather of the Superman character itself. The studio has not found a way to sell it to younger generations.

Bring back Joel Schumacher! We need campy Batman and Superman. Joel would know how to use Henry’s assets, such as they are, to full advantage.

[QUOTE]It might not be a disavowal of Cavill, but rather of the Superman character itself. The studio has not found a way to sell it to younger generations.

They’ll just make him a young twink like Spider-Man.

He could probably have still done it (he's still got the body for it and is relatively young), but I think DC is embarrassed by how badly the last few movies other than Wonder Woman have been received, and they want a clean sweep.

Zack Snyder was just death for this set of movies. His vision of the DC Universe was unpleasantly dark and rooted in the late 1980s & 1990s, no one's favorite period for comics except his. He needs to be forgotten.

Have the Durell creatures weighed in on this fiasco?

R82, I believe the silverback tortoise is penning a statement. He’s a very slow writer though.

Henry Cavill’s Superman is modeled after a 90’s action star. These kids today don’t want to see that shit. DC will probably end up casting some skinny fuck with a pretty face and “emotions.” They’ll focus more on his quiet and introverted Clark Kent side rather than the heroic antics of Superman. He’ll probably be suicidal but can’t die no matter how many attempts he makes. That’s what the youth likes today: seeing their broken selves on screen.

R79, I think you are right. Good idea. Unfortunately, it is too late. You should go back in time and make the suggestion to WB a few years ago.

They like seeing broken elves on screen.

I will miss Henry's hairy chest.

They should just have Henry walk back and forth in just a thong for 90 minutes.

DC just has to course correct.

The Nolan Batmen were IMO a overreaction to the Schumacher Batman excesses. They were so, so serious and dark (of palette at least) and dank looking. MI think that can work for Batman but not for the main DC Universe. Unfortunately DC took that as an indicator that, that is what audiences want for their superhero flicks all the time. No one needed a dark, gritty “real” Superman. They don’t have to go candy and camp but cheer up already.

I think Wonder Woman got the tone exactly right. I left the movie happier than I went in.

R45 has no idea what she’s talking about.

NO actor has the ability to single-handedly “elevate” a script to the point of goodness whith shitty material.

Name one film that was good ONLY because of an actor’s performance over shitty lines and action.

[quote] Another overpaid white U.K. actor out of a job....

He’s white?

[QUOTE]They should just have Henry walk back and forth in just a thong for 90 minutes.

They’ve got guys doing that right now on Chaturbate.com you can watch for free.

R84, the problem is we didn't really get to se Cavill as heroic in the Supes franchise. There never really was one establishing scene where you go :" Woah ! This is Superman !". Cavill's charm was wasted on tormented, emo stuff. Bad call from the screenwriters and director.

[QUOTE]Name one film that was good ONLY because of an actor’s performance over shitty lines and action.

Denzel Washington has a few movies like this.

I thought Henry was a great Superman.....However, the material was shit. I wish DC and Marvel would just fuck off for 10 years before another movie

Fine, he was lifeless and obviously unhappy in the role.

I blame the writers for the awfulness of the films he's made much more than Cavill himself, but face it, he brought nothing.

[quote] They’ve got guys doing that right now on Chaturbate.com you can watch for free.

But they’re not Henry.

Not being Superman is going to ruin Henry’s social life which consists of going to bars, getting drunk, posing for selfies as “Superman” (not Henry Cavill), and licking black guys on the face.

Henry is the best piece of wood ever to make it to the big screen.

[QUOTE]But they’re not Henry.

He’s close enough.

So, are they shitcanning the Flash and Cyborg actors, as well? The Lois Lane actress? MARTHA????

What a brain-dead decision.

It was going to be jarring enough, when they replaced Affleck's fat, alchy ass. They might as well shoot the rest of the DCEU movies from audience POV with a go-pro so fanboys can pretend easier and the studio can just hire a new eight-pack every week of shioting.

[quote] The Lois Lane actress? MARTHA????

Diane Lane’s frozen bag o’ peas says “Yes”.

Shyborg

Wrong, r81.

Zack Snyder’s vision was rooted in Christopher Nolan’s Batman movies that came immediately before. THE DARK KNIGHT and others were wildly successful, and Warner Brothers saw the dark tone as a “house style” that could be extended to all D.C. characters and distinguish them from Marvel’s.

Nolan even served as a producer in-name on some of the D.C. flicks.

The problem is, Snyder, Roven and Berg don’t have the BRAINS of Christopher Nolan and that cold tone is not right for every character. It gets old, monotonous and oppressive — especially if they don’t come with the literary substance Nolan can provide.

Schumacher didn’t influence Nolan, give me a break.

Nolan had his own agenda and comes from a different generation.

I fucking hated Nolan's Batman franchise. Gangsters fighting some dude in a bat costume. The focus was way too much on the gangster aesthetic than on the superhero aesthetic. Nolan practically apologized in every frame having to feature a freak in a bat costume in order to tell his gangster crime story.

Bullshit, r94.

Name one.

I can’t think of a Denzel Washington movie with a train wreck of a script.

Except for UNSTOPPABLE, which was a great script literally about a train wreck.

Pietro Boselli for Superman!

[quote]I can’t think of a Denzel Washington movie with a train wreck of a script.

Oh, boy. I love me some Denzel but..."Fallen."

[QUOTE]I can’t think of a Denzel Washington movie with a train wreck of a script.

I don’t know if they’re “train wreck” scripts but they’ve certainly been bad. Movies like Out of Time with him and Sanaa Lathan, Fallen, Roman J. Israel, Deja Vu, The Taking of Pelham 123 remake with John Travolta, Virtuosity with Russell Crowe, 2 Guns with Mark Wahlberg . These are all awful movies that were elevated to decent thanks to Denzel’s performance. Without him, there would be absolutely no reason to watch these movies.

R4, if you think Superman is going anywhere, you’re an idiot.

i could see him as james bond.

Batman is supposed to be emo and tormented. It works for him. Superman is supposed to be upbeat and inspiring. Trying to make him Bruce Wayne with super powers was a huge mistake

No one is saying NOLAN was “influenced” BY Shumacher. Just that his dark version of Batman was considered an antidote to the camp excesses of Shumacher.

I don’t think it was a coincidence that he went the opposite direction in pretty much every way.

[quote] i could see him as james bond.

He’d be more of a Roger Moore Bond than a Daniel Craig or Sean Connery Bond.

I would think he would be more Dalton.

I for one am grateful he is out of that contract and on Netflix, as we will probably be seeing his giant bare ass again.

What's the difference between a wet blanket wearing a cape and a wet blanket claiming to be Bond, James Bond? None. They both suck all the life out of the room and movie screen.

Nolan made very good movies, but they were rooted much more in the Seventies Batman (by Denny O'Neil and Neil Adams, with Ra's al Ghul) than in the 80s and 90s Batman comics of Frank Miller.

Snyder has said multiple times that the most influential comic book on his aesthetic was "the Dark Knight Returns" series by Frank Miller. Thought hat series shared its name with the Nolan films, the Nolan films weren't heavily influenced by them. "Batman v Superman" almost remade the final issue of "The Dark Knight Returns," and it ended Snyder's own weird touches by making Batman a killer; he had already (unbelievably!) made Superman a killer with "Man of Steel," which no one wanted to see.

[quote] his giant bare ass

Giant?

Schumscher’s film were probably influenced by the tv show with Adam West. Kapow!

Schumacher’s films were probably influenced by the tv show with Adam West. Kapow!

I want a DC Universe where Superman and Batman are supporting characters. I’d rather see movies about literally any one of their sidekicks/spin-off characters than either of those two ever again. I’d pay money to see movies about Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, Batwoman, Catwoman, the Huntress, Supergirl, Power Girl, hell, make a Lois Lane movie, as long as Clark/Kal isn’t in it. My dream is a Legion of Superheroes movie, but WB couldn’t even get the Justice League right, so I’m not holding out hope.

True r117. Superhero movies are never going to get Henry Cavill naked, Netflix can. We got to get him naked, he isn't getting any younger.

Poor bastard is trending on Twitter for this.

I think LOSH would be a great limited series on something like Netflix. Each episode could feature a different member and then work towards some big plot.

One of my sissies is a LOSH.

Michael B. Jordan may replace Henry.

who is replacing him?????????????

[quote] who is replacing him?????????????

A block of wood.

R129, there is talk of Michael B. Jordan taking over the role.

Expect racists to throw a shitfit!

[quote]A block of wood.

Finally! Someone with range.

I'm black and don't support MBJ as the main superman. Unless they are doing the parallel earth story from multiversity or something.

"The problem is, Snyder, Roven and Berg don’t have the BRAINS of Christopher Nolan and that cold tone is not right for every character. "

That's the thing, a grim tone works for Batman, who is barely sane, but it doesn't work for Superman or Wonder Woman. Patty Jenkins got that right, wherever her Wonder Woman went the world got better, and the people near her got better. That was as much as superpower as her strength or lasso of truth, her ability to inspire.

Superman should have been the same, or more so, but no. Those idiots gave us a Superman who'd been dragged down by humanity, not someone who was working to pull humanity up to his level.

R134 is exactly right. These characters have decades worth of history. We know what works for them. It's arrogance to try fundamentally changing Superman's character so much to fit Synder's personal taste for dark things.

Had Superman been written like that in 1930s I guarantee you he'd be some no name idol rather than a beloved international character

[quote] There is talk of Michael B. Jordan taking over the role.

And the Superman Curse continues......

I worshipped and adored Michael B. Jordan in "Black Panther", but he can't play Superman.

Because he has a receding chin. He usually covers the chin with a little bit of a beard to disguise the problem, but he couldn't do that as Superman. He'd have to have a major chin and jaw reconstruction before they could use him, because you have to shoot Superman in profile some time!

Oh, I thought this was a Cavill thread but instead it’s all about SUPERHERO BULLSHIT.

What the hell is a receding chin?

R138 yes, shame there aren't 3 to 4 other cavill threads you could post in rather than whining here like a little bitch

So, Tom Cruise for Hal Jordan.

Michael B Jordan as Superman.

Who will they cast as the new Batman? EJ Johnson? Nick Cage? Kristen Stewart?

[quote] Who will they cast as the new Batman? EJ Johnson? Nick Cage? Kristen Stewart?

Well Kristen has “sullen” down pat.

Why is Dany hinting that it's not over for Henry when it obviously is?

And the chin, too, R142.

Warner Brothers tweet:

Not really a confirmation

Dani - she looka like a man.

Of course it is a confirmation r146, they don't dispute the Hollywood Reporter scoop, learn to speak PRisms.

Sorry.

Denzel Washington's performance in FALLEN wasn't enough to save the movie.

It still has only 40% approval from critics and practically no one remembers it. Like a lot of films, it might have a good performance from a great actor, but that's not enough to redeem an entire movie.

SO STOP BLAMING CAVILL. Snyder, Roven and Warners execs FUCKED IT UP.

Wrong, r114.

I just mentioned Tim Burton in the history of Batman movies and you felt like one-upping me, so you projected a connection between Nolan and Schumacher.

Try being about the truth instead of showing off or changing the subject to nostalgia.

That video at R149 is telling. Cavill's so expressive there... and vague. He knew he was on the fence, if not out already. I have no faith in DC.

r119 is just masturbating now.

She has no idea what was in Christopher Nolan's mind and offers no proof.

Are 151 either you’re confused or mixing me up with another poster. I made a post about Nolan being in overcorrection to Schumacher which had nothing to do with anything you posted AAIK since I wasn’t responding to ANYTHING about the Burton films. Certainly not with any idea of “one upping” anyone. Then you responded and then I responded back to you. Hazards on anonymity I guess.

R151 ^

[quote]Dani - she looka like a man.

It's a wonder Cavill hasn't pursued her. She's his type, isn't she?

She’s not black, R156, is she?

If Matt Bomer’s bag of oranges interacted with Diane Lane’s bag of frozen peas would the universe implode?

Exactly, r134.

In fact, Snyder, et al darkened Batman's character EVEN FURTHER with Superman vs. Batman.

They gave him a voice modulator in the suit that made him sound downright demonic and no human sympathy at all. Batman went from a talkative, upbeat detective to a scary, silent hellspawn doing evil shit.

And people shouldn't attribute the dark tones to Nolan alone.

Film Noir has been the house style at Warner Brothers since its beginning -- going all the way back to James Cagney, Edward G. Robinson and Humphrey Bogart. It's always been about dark crime capers -- that's partly why they let Affleck direct movies like THE TOWN and they discussed letting Affleck direct some D.C.

And the Batman franchise first darkened itself back in the 1980s with Frank Miller's DARK KNIGHT graphic novels, which revolutionized the industry, and Tim Burton's gothicker take on Gotham.

BUT IT TAKES BRAINS AND LITERARY SUBSTANCE TO PULL THAT OFF, which Zach Snyder, Charles Roven and their writers don't have. Hiring Joss Whedon for late-stage tinkering doesn't work.

Bugs Bunny was so dark, and the road runner cartoons symbolic of existential struggle.

I wanna see Da Town!

Every Snyder movie should start with this and we get handed a remote control so we can decide:

News flash. Straight young men and boys don't like Cavill.

[quote] Have the Durell creatures weighed in on this fiasco?

What are the Durrell Creatures? Please tell me.

Superman needs to be a stunningly handsome man with a very strong chin and jaw with wholesome good looks (at least when in character).

Find me another Christopher Reeve, damn it.

Cavill couldn't act, but at least he looked the part.

[QUOTE]Denzel Washington's performance in FALLEN wasn't enough to save the movie.

I don’t care what the RT rating says, Fallen is at least watchable because of Denzel. And he was the only good thing critics had to say about it. So yes, he saved the movie. It probably wouldn’t have even gone into theaters if it wasn’t for him—just straight to video.

The only problem with Cavill as Superman wasnt Cavill.....it was Zack Snyder, the writers, and the studios for allowing Snyder to exercise such control. A different script and a different director would have had a dramatically different outcome. Look at Justice League....the opening with its horrid and amateurish effects made it seem like a b-picture.

I agree, the more happy, goofy Superman scenes in JL were great. Like the race with the flash for example. Cavill isn't great but neither are most superhero actors. The writing for that movie was terrible

Should Matt Damon be the next Superman? Why or why not?

No. Too, old, not attractive enough

Everybody and their great grandpa knows the superman stories. Nothing new to see.

Snyder's vision was about "everything's broken, sad and depressing". People want fantasy hero entertainment where the hero defeats the villain and has his littler After School Special epiphany. Not that bittersweet victory crap setting up the premise that the hero's happy end involves counceling sessions for the emotional scars that've been inflicted upon him throughout the movie.

R7 writes,

[quote]Now, I hope Cavill will do better things and [bold]I wish they would slow down in the super heroes reboots.[/bold] But I'm not kidding myself.

I ignore them.

I have no interest.

I like not caring.

Dear god, they're already beginning to push Armie Hammer. I like Armie Hammer. I think he is handsome and a solid, thought not spectacular actor. He's no Superman.

Other names now being floated: Steven Strait, Wes Bentley (too short), a bunch of brits (Sam Claflin, Richard Madden, Colin O'Donoghue).

And there is apparently a HUGE push going on now for Jordan.

Ryan Paevey!

R 84 you crack me up. You’re exactly describing Cavill’s sad, mopey, introspective, conflicted Superman 😂 it’s another thing Cavill lacked the range for it

I'm not R84, but I think he was calling out the Snyder's direction. Cavill ended playing sad, mopey, conflicted, etc, because that is what the director wanted.

He would have been better as the aw-shucks, smiling, good neighbour.

Cavill is more than welcome to collapse in my bed. I shall console him.

I liked him as Superman. He is soooo handsome.

R173, yet here you are responding to a post more than 150 posts downthread.

I don't care my ass.

Agree w above posters, Cavill has his fuck you money and feels empowered by the success of MI. He thinks he can do other jobs plus feel more relaxed getting his delicious meaty ass plowed by a tons of gay side pieces. Who cares, I only watched the films to see him take his shirt off. Feel bad about WW, Gal Gadot was good.

Waiting for Gadot

So the given reason was scheduling conflicts, what was the real reason?

Remember when Jon Hamm was being considered for Super Man? I could picture that...

The Wonder Woman franchise is their success story r183.

['quote]So the given reason was scheduling conflicts, what was the real reason?

Every Superman movie with Cavill has been poorly received, maybe not his fault, but why not try to start fresh?

Hey! I am R7, R181 is not. And I didn't mind R173 comment.

Well, Cavill's people must look on the bright side: here's a chance for him to be the first actor to play a much beloved character based off a hugely successful fantasy novel and video game series with The Witcher. Lucky for him, the character he's set to play in The Witcher is very dry and macho, who delivers a lot of sarcastic jokes. If Cavill can't pull that off, then he truly is a one-note actor.

Interesting article. At least he gets some appreciation and sympathy.

That studio really fucked up.

He can always become a gay porn bottom.

I find it really interesting that Cavill is trusted with a new franchise after he couldn't even pull off the grocery shopping date with Kaley Cuoco. Bad scripts, movie franchise flops, bad acting, bad PR dating stunts, bland persona. Nothing seems to stick.

[quote] He can always become a gay porn bottom.

Why a bottom?

The man is beautiful but he has zero personality. And watching him puts me to sleep, literally.

He used to actually be very loose and personable r193.

Henry is not Bond. They have to suck it up, listen to public demand and give it to Idris Elba already.

Or not

His forehead appears high he makes superman look like he is going bald

British actors stink. Fire them all.

I thought only lesbians were fans of Henry Cavill?

DL fave Cillian Murphy should be the next Superman.

I hated Henry Cavill as Superman. Too bulky. And zero charisma. Good riddance to lackluster rubbish.

“DC Films and Warner Bros. are shifting their attention to female-centric characters, like Supergirl”

Henry looks Hispanic here:

"Wonder Woman" was a success because Patty Jenkins realized the DC zeitgeist of grim despair just didn't work for that character. So she had WW enter humanity during a period of grim despair... and make everything better. That's what sane people want to see! Someone who not only brings out goodness in flawed weak human beings, but who doesn't give into hate and despair when things are at their worst.

And that's how Superman should be, he's not a human and goddammit he should be better than humans! Sure, the grim despair zeitgeist can work for Batman, who is one fucked-up human being, but he's probably the only superhero who can go that dark successfully.

the never showed cavil semi nude or played to is strength.

they will reboot with young comic rye kool super and batman

yay

Snyder shoud go, but who???

cavill was fab in the mission impossible flik…...he rises to the occasion when given decent script,. loved him n Uncle.

[quote] played to is strength.

What's his strength?

[Quote] Dear god, they're already beginning to push Armie Hammer. I like Armie Hammer. I think he is handsome and a solid, thought not spectacular actor. He's no Superman. Other names now being floated: Steven Strait, Wes Bentley (too short), a bunch of brits (Sam Claflin, Richard Madden, Colin O'Donoghue).

I saw quite a few wanting to give Hoechlin his own movie (which would never happen). Or give him his own show.

R203 is right. Nolan Batman was successful because the writing fit the character. WW was successful because the writing fit the character.

The writing is what killed DCU

Hoechlin doesn’t look like a traditional Superman.

Just for fun:

R208 Somehow that didn't stop Berlanti from casting him.

Tyler Hoechlin is the “ethnic” Superman.

Ethnic? LOL

Hoechlin has as much charisma and charm as Cavill. None. It's painfully obvious that they are holding back expressing themselves emotionally in order to play stunted characters. Laugh at Stephen Amell (CW Arrow), but he knows how to play stunted but also expressing charm and emotion when needed.

[Quote] Hoechlin has as much charisma and charm as Cavill. None.

I disagree, i thought Cavill had charisma/charm in The Man From Uncle and we got a glimpse of it (sadly) in the Justice League movie. Hoechlin did come off as stunted at times in Teen Wolf, but so was everyone else on that show.

Hoechlin would be good in many things, just not as Superman. I wouldn't mind seeing his Teen Wolf co-star, Dylan O'Brien, as Iceman instead of Ashmore.

I see Hoechlin more as an officer in some Star Trek series - like one of the new ones they've announced. Frankly, Cavill would also do well as a military officer like in Trek where that stiffness would actually make sense.

Dylan O'Brien would be a wonderful Iceman! He isn't blond but I could forgive that. Plus we'd finally see him kiss guys.

And The Man from Uncle is the best I've ever seen Cavill perform. It was a simple role sure, but he nailed it. I agree a few scenes in JL did Superman right. Had all of Man of Steel been like that I don't think there'd be any complaints about Cavill

[Quote] I see Hoechlin more as an officer in some Star Trek series - like one of the new ones they've announced.

We'll see how he goes in Another Life.

[Quote] Frankly, Cavill would also do well as a military officer like in Trek where that stiffness would actually make sense.

I wouldn't mind seeing Hoechlin and Cavill together in a project.

[Quote] Dylan O'Brien would be a wonderful Iceman! He isn't blond but I could forgive that. Plus we'd finally see him kiss guys.

LOL good luck with that.

michael b jordan is ugly! there are cuter black guys than him!

Michael B. Jordan doesn’t fit the traditional image of Superman. Neither does Hoechlin.

R219 You say that like it's a bad thing.

Does that mean they found the footage where he sucks the dicks of the studio security team?

I'm not worried about him- he's the best reason for seeing latest Mission Impossible which gather is a monster hit.

R219

To some people it is.

Some people want they characters they know, to you know? stay the characters they know.

It’s not bad or unreasonable.

[quote] You say that like it's a bad thing

Superman (along with Wolverine and Wonder Woman) is one of the superheroes whose look has changed little in comic books. The image of Superman is indelible to many. Routh, Dean Cain, George Reeves and, of course, Christopher Reeve matched that look. Jordan, Hoechlin and even Cavill do not fit that image.

R224 thinks Dean Cain looked like Superman and Cavill does not?

F&F. Idiot.

[quote]Superman (along with Wolverine and Wonder Woman) is one of the superheroes whose look has changed little in comic books.

Yes, but in the comics, Wolverine is 5'3" tall -- and he's played in the movies by 6'3" Hugh Jackman.

[quote]Michael B. Jordan doesn’t fit the traditional image of Superman. Neither does Hoechlin.

[quote]You say that like it's a bad thing

What exactly is a "good thing" about NOT fitting the traditional image? There is a huge difference between subverting expectations and merely failing to meet them.

These days, "subverting expectations" is wholly overused primarily by people who believe it's synonymous with outlandish plot twists or out-of-character and/or perverse behavior.

However, truly subverting expectations requires a three step process by which the baseline is established, the subversion is introduced, and finally the punchline is executed. Buffy the Vampire subverts expectations. A black Superman does not.

From a commercial point of view it does make sense though. The comic book fans have all these established and classic movie and TV adaptions they can buy and watch over and over again already. Now it's time for the market that wants to see a black man to play Superman. I mean, hello Black Panther! Big commercial success.

Of course the old fans will be butthurt because that particular franchise is no longer courting them.

[quote]Now it's time for the market that wants to see a black man to play Superman. I mean, hello Black Panther! Big commercial success.

Black Panther has always been a black man. The fact that it was successful had nothing to do with his being black - and point of fact, while it did very well in the US, it didn't do nearly as well internationally.

Why do people continue to argue about people being "butthurt" - What Black Panther actually proves is that to be a commercial success in the +$800 million range, you need fans who are willing to see the movie multiple times. Who else but the fanboys are going to see it 3 or 4 times? You may get a lot of folks to see a movie once, but that won't translate into big money box office.

The Chinese market is increasingly important, and studios try to minimize black presence in certain films for China.

{quote] Black Panther has always been a black man. The fact that it was successful had nothing to do with his being black - and point of fact, while it did very well in the US, it didn't do nearly as well internationally.

It had all to do with the main character being black played by a black character. And there are enough people out there who'd be interested and curious to watch a Superman movie where he is played by a black man only to share their opinon later on social media.

Sorry, played by a black actor.

r230. LOL. You really think the Black Community will not watch a movie where Superman is played by an African American, because Superman is supposed to be white? That kind of stuff is right up their alley.

[quote]It had all to do with the main character being black played by a black character.

How do you even know this?

Because the Black Community supports black cinema. Just look at the success of the Tyler Perry movies.

Sorry. As a black person, I do not want to see a black Superman (especially if he's played by Michael "No-Chin-Having" Jordan!) Didn't studios learn anything about casting him as the Human Torch in that Fantastic Four fiasco?!

Most black comic book fans like faithful adaptations of the iconic superheroes they grew up watching and reading, so certainly I'm not the only one who feels this way. I can see if we're talking about a new origin story the way they're doing the black Spider-Man. But having a black actor as Clark Kent smacks of liberal tokenism.

[quote] Most black comic book fans

That is the whole point. It's not for the fans. It's for another demographic.

If the "black community" (I love how you use that phrase as if all black moviegoers are monolithic) didn't fall for it when Michael B. Jordan was cast as the Human Torch in the Fantastic Four reboot, what makes you think that they will come out to see him as Superman when he'll be painfully miscast? (He being black will be the least of his problems. He simply doesn't have the charisma and sex appeal to play Clark Kent/Superman.)

There are no black moviegoers out there crying out for a black Superman. In fact, many prefer for more black superheroes that already exist to have their very own movies.

I think they should make superman older. I would love to see George Clooney in the role.

[quote]Because the Black Community supports black cinema. Just look at the success of the Tyler Perry movies.

That is not evidence. Oh, and Oprah's movie, [italic]A wrinkle in time[/italic], flopped.

Why does someone continue to create threads with the title "_________'s Collapse Is Complete"?

You must be new here, R241. That's a Datalounge tradition.

[quote] There are no black moviegoers out there crying out for a black Superman.

They are crying for more movies with black actors in leading roles. And Hollywood is, well, Hollywood. "Fully of new ideas".

Full of new ideas.

Yeah I’m not seeing these hordes crying out for a black Superman either.

If DC did black Superman you’d probably have people accusing them of just trying to cash in on Black Panther and then turning into a VS situation instead a PLUS situation. Then long term fans and the general public who see Superman in his traditional form won’t be happy (understatement) and the people who are supposedly being reached out to might not care or become antagonistic. So no one wins.

Would hordes line up for a Hoechlin Superman?

We've already had a black Superman movie of sorts -- Shaquille O'Neal as Steel. It flopped.

And why would that happen? Because the obsessive fans are butthurt that Hollywood doesn't listen and pander to them. Like spoiled brats they'd whine and throw temper tantrums. Which says a lot about the mental state of fans.

DCWB doesn't understand WHY Black Panther was such a success. They just think shoving a muscular black man into an iconic role will be a surefire hit because they don't understand, or care, what truly makes T'Challa and Wakanda so engrossing.

They could have taken their Cyborg character to greater heights, with at big part in Flaspoint and at least a solo film but you can tell by how they've already trapped all over that character, they never thought that far ahead. And, that's a waste.

Part of the reason AWIT flopped was that they threw out the story as people knew it, changed races, plot points, motivations.

The source matierial was ignored and considered low value by the filmmakers and they decided to insert their views and desires into someone’s elses story with no subtlety and little respect for the source matierial. It was arrogant and short sighted and they paid for it.

Enough with this white, male privilege! Superman should be played by an asian, disabled transwomyn of colour!!!

What is with the Hoechlin’s not white troll?

He sure looks white to me.

Sorry, that was suppose to be Flashpoint.

Jon Stewart is another badass AA DC character that they could give a solo feature.

WBDC executives need to put down the cocaine and look around at some of the other DC characters. Not all of them are white dudes.

I liked AWIT, but then I had no clue about the source material since I didn't read it.

Thanks R242. I sometimes have difficulty distinguishing between a DL tradition and something that's merely dumb.

R246

Possibly? Who knows if audiences would line up for ANY Superman anymore.

DC has made so missteps lately.

Making the character unrecognizable to the mainstream audience certainly won’t help matters.

I think Vixen would be great choice for a lower budget more adult oriented movie, like the first Blade.

However I want original Grace Jones style Vixen not Halle Berry lite Vixen.

Where is Nubia, Wonder Woman of the Floating island, when you need her!

Ridiculous and idiotic to argue to the failure of the Fantastic 4 remake was due to a black human torch. That was just a bad movie.

The idea of a black Superman would work IF they did it as a complete alternate universe take. Not a boy in Smallville Kansas, maybe a kid from a more urban place. It could actually be a cool speculative work to see how and if Superman would be different if he was black and found by a black family. Would the US, fresh off the civil rights debates react to him differently? That could be fun

But I don't support keeping the same origin we have now, changing the skin color, and acting like that's the norm now

[quote] Ridiculous and idiotic to argue to the failure of the Fantastic 4 remake was due to a black human torch. That was just a bad movie.

You must don't remember the huge backlash the movie received due to casting Michael B. Jordan as the Human Torch? His casting, on top of it being a bad movie, is what made it one of the biggest flops that year.

But I agree that a black Superman would only work if it was in an alternative universe and/or a different origin story, a la black Spider-Man.

Love that idea, R259. The comics did something along those lines in an Elseworlds story with Kal-El's rocket ship landing in Russia.

Isn’t Spider-Man Jewish?

R262 The jury is out. His image was created by Steve Ditko, who was Jewish and drew a Peter Parker that fit many Jewish stereotypes of the day. Skinny, light brown hair, and glasses. But the comics have never actually ruled one way or the other

“It’s fake!” reports TMZ.

Think about it. Doesn’t really matter if he’s sacked or not. They are not making another Superman movie so essentially he’s on bench forever=sacked

[Quote] I think they should make superman older.

I would like to see that too since they somewhat messed that up on Supergirl.

[Quote] Would hordes line up for a Hoechlin Superman?

Only one way to find out😊

Heard that Cavill might be Batman, and Edgar Ramirez will be Tonto.

As someone pointed out on another forum, Batman can be played by just about anyone of any race. His iconic look is about the cape and the hood, put any fit man with a good jawline into the batsuit, and he looks like Batman!

But Superman's iconic look is more physical than the costume, even when he's not wearing the blue leotard he's still got to be this tall, muscular, blue-eyed, dark-haired, strong-jawed man. Change any of that and he no longer looks like Superman, even if you find a tall, muscular, blue-eyed, strong-jawed blond man who can play him, you'd better dye his hair because he won't look like Superman unless he's got dark hair. And the same goes for skin color. Change that, and he no longer looks like Superman.

[quote]Batman can be played by just about anyone of any race.

Not that it really matters to me, but Bruce Wayne's backstory as being from this old money billionaire family is (sadly) unrealistic if he isn't white.

Colton wants Matt Bomer for Superman.

Colto

R269, if I wanted to cast a black actor as Batman, I'd show the unavoidable flashback to his parents' murder, and I'd cast Wayne Senior as a preppy-type white guy, and Mrs. Wayne as a beautiful black woman. Same for any actor who isn't bone-white, because skin color doesn't define Batman, money and psychology does.

The same doesn't apply to Superman. He looks like Chris Reeve, Henry Cavill, or Matt Bomer. Very little variation is allowable.

[quote] And the same goes for skin color. Change that, and he no longer looks like Superman.

[quote] He looks like Chris Reeve, Henry Cavill, or Matt Bomer. Very little variation is allowable.

That’s why I don’t think Hoechlin makes a good Superman.

A Brit could never convincingly fight for the American way.

Could a Brit convincingly fight for the Kryptonian way?

Well Superman is an illegal alien r274, the current American way would be to deport him.

Superman was a bona fide refugee, and therefore eligible to be legalized.

I can't believe people are taking media shit stirring seriously.

Superman is not going to be black, neither is bond. Breathe and relax.

This smells like publicity so when they DO cast another white guy, the fanboys will accept it without complaint because " at least he's not black!". Classic studio strategy. Bait and switch. Lower expectations so they are more likely to accept crap.

[quote]You must don't remember the huge backlash the movie received due to casting Michael B. Jordan as the Human Torch? His casting, on top of it being a bad movie, is what made it one of the biggest flops that year.

Why are you contradicting yourself in the next sentence?

To even pretend like Michael B Jordan's casting is what we went with the Fantastic Four movie is laughable. That movie was an utter abomination, the director of the damn movie disowned it publicly the weekend it opened.

what went wrong*

[quote] Why are you contradicting yourself in the next sentence?

I don't know what contradiction you're referring to, but I remember the backlash. I remember when IMDb still had its user forum where all the commentators stating vehemently that they wouldn't go see the movie due to Michael B. Jordan's casting as the Human Torch. I remember all the comic book and video game forums where pretty much 90% of the comments were pissed off because of his casting. So I don't know what contradiction you're talking about, because as I said, his casting--which already began the backlash for the movie before its release--as well as the movie being terrible is what made it a flop.

Luckily, Michael B. Jordan had Ryan Coogler in his corner, because if it wasn't for Creed, and later Black Panther, his film career as a leading man would've been certainly over.

[quote] This smells like publicity so when they DO cast another white guy, the fanboys will accept it without complaint because " at least he's not black!". Classic studio strategy. Bait and switch. Lower expectations so they are more likely to accept crap.

I completely agree.

What is the nonsense CDAN keeps going on about Henry doing “bad things” in China?

R283 on CDAN Cavill is into teenage girls, on blindgossip he is a lazy actor who pretends he did all his stunts when he did not. Depends if those blinds are posted by his team or the studios, but the most important information : he is SO NOT gay! That's the narrative...

Ok, so Frau here. I have to say, the blinds about him being a pedo are starting to make me wonder...though I find it odd that there are no receipts. And I’ve noticed of late that chatter of these proclivities (I.e. underage girls) are poping up in the comments of any article about him. And coupled with the unfortunate Me Too comments....it’s a very bad look. Surely his people can’t think this is preferable to him being gay??!!!

As a straight woman...if he’s gay, sure ya, bummer but whatever I can deal with that. But if he’s truly some gross pedophile he needs to be cancelled.

Superman as a franchise is dead in the water. Unless they can do a Nolan on it.

Jesus Christ the man’s as gay as a picnic basket. Go back to Pinterest r285.

I'm a gay man (shock horror) and I have fucked many, many str8 men over the years. Super hot ones too if you must know. (and you MUST know). Most of those str8 men are just that: str8. They just are. Not bi. Not closeted fags living in denial. Fundamentally str8. Sometimes, genuinely str8 men crave cock. So they go and get some. And then they get back to the pussy grabbing. It's a bitter pill for some gay men to swallow (...), but not all men are gay. Even the ones who sometimes go for the cock.

Sofia, why the animosity. I don’t believe I ever said he wasn’t gay...I too have seen the old pictures and believe that the “girlfriends” have been fake, etc. I’m not in denial. I’m merely saying, the whole pedophile narrative that is coming up with him more and more is a very bad look. I’m saying gay Henry is very much preferable to creepy guy who sleeps with undeage Chinese girls. Can we at least agree on that?

Don’t the blinds also say he has Herpes and does not tell his sex partners?

[quote] Depends if those blinds are posted by his team or the studios, but the most important information : he is SO NOT gay! That's the narrative...

Why would anyone with even half a brain take stock in blinds? They're bullshit. Even worse, is that someone could believe that WB or his very own team would put out gossip that would damage his reputation. There's a lot of fucked up people in the world with unhealthy fixations on celebrities. You need to look for some receipts before you even begin to entertain that nonsense.

[quote]Black Panther has always been a black man. The fact that it was successful had nothing to do with his being black - and point of fact, while it did very well in the US, it didn't do nearly as well internationally.

Stop spreading that lie! You liar.

Black Panther's international box office nearly matched the US box office.

A 52:48 dom/international ratio is not great. Infinity War was 33:66.

Shut up, Infinity was a sequel full of superheroes -- including Black Panther.

Black Panther was new franchise unknown to most.

R291 I am one of those fucked up people with unhealthy fixations on celebrities (and I'm not the only one in this thread, otherwise it would be empty), Cavill was supposed to help take my mind away from another messed up actor, big mistake! Anyway some receipts : every single relationship/bearding is announced and promoted first in blinds, just to create the buzz. Last summer we had the stuntwoman blinds a couple a month before the first public outing. Who outside his people would have any interest in making that info public? We had the first "lazy actor who do not do his own stunt" blinds on blindgossip last year who mysteriously disappeared before being publish again during the promo! The first blind had the word "work ethic" (because apparently professionalism is too complicated to spell) and guess who is a big fan of buzzwords? Dany Garcia! who used that very word in one her "I do inspirational quotes and then post them on IG because my ego is the size of Florida!" I guess the herpes II blinds are here to convince people to stop hitting on him? They're old but we sometime get a reminder on CDAN, if it's their purpose, they're useless, like the singer in the last Graham Norton show who told Cavill in front of everybody that she is ovulating... I think the "he likes them young" started as a way to kill the gay rumors, but it's about to bite them in the ass if they are going for younger.

the blind who disappeared, apparently you can do some clean up on blindgossip, but not so much on CDAN

Honestly, I am not that interested in a new Superman movie, I would prefer if Cavill and WB did a sequel to Man from UNCLE, his Napoleon was more fun to watch than his superman.

I agree, R297, but it is not going to happen. There are not much original MFU fans left, as opposed to super hero crap.

Wouldn't it be dope if they indeed sacked Henry for being gay and then eventually hire Bomer as the face of our new and improved new Superman? Mindfuck!

They need someone younger, with black hair, who actually looks like Superman. It shouldn’t be that hard.

I like Bomer, but there's no way he's Superman and does not have the physical presence, stature, or gravitas.

Jeremiah Buoni. He has the body of Supes and can play Clark.

The body of Supes.

The Witcher is going to bomb. Calling it now. The backlash against changing the race of characters to be more diverse is bad, but the rest of the cast is unknown?

A diverse cast is bad? The world is diverse. Why can't Hollywood?

Nobody's saying that. The problem is changing the race of established characters in books for what appears to be no reason other than fulfilling a quote. Neflix f'd up by refusing to allow non-minorities audition.

[quote] The problem is changing the race of established characters in books for what appears to be no reason other than fulfilling a quote. Neflix f'd up by refusing to allow non-minorities audition.

I call that Karma, because there have been some notable non-white characters played strictly by whites.

Hannibal, Cleopatra, and Marianne Pearl.

R307, You're one of the people that likes to pretend Cleopatra was black despite the overwhelming historical evidence?

Regardless, you're definitely right about white people portraying POC, but two wrongs don't a make right. We don't need one-upmanship.

You're talking about fictional characters, and I'm talking about real ones. In my opinion, fictional ones, especially the ones portrayed in a lower-tier fantasy book can be changed, since there is a large segment that is not familiar w/the book.

R309. But you're the one who brought up non-fictional characters? I have a feeling you'd feel very differently if it was a black fictional character being changed to white.

So bland.

[quote]Me: You're talking about fictional characters, and I'm talking about real ones. In my opinion, fictional ones, especially the ones portrayed in a lower-tier fantasy book can be changed, since there is a large segment that is not familiar w/the book.

How did you come up w/this response to my post?

[quote] You: But you're the one who brought up non-fictional characters? I have a feeling you'd feel very differently if it was a black fictional character being changed to white.

Huh? I clearly said I was talking about non-fic characters.

Could it be that Henry Cavill is not sexy/sexual enough for the character? There is an implicit idea of Superman as some kind of sex symbol and, while Henry Cavill is indeed attractive his personality doesn't seem to suggets much of that...

Obviously thinking of this as how perhaps they want to sell the character among women and they fantasies.

R304 = racist nerd trash alert

R302 he's a hottie for sure but obviously isn't ready to play Superman come on.

Jesus, r302. I'd never heard of that guy. I thought he was some foreign actor, but he's a reality show douchebro from the failed Jersey Shore ripoff.

This guy lacks acting skills and charisma, his movies topped the box office because of tom cruise and superman franchise. HE has to prove his value as a lead actor , although i don't think he can

R316) Hey, aren't they all actors? Besides, Jeremiah is the most wholesome one on the show. The castmates call him the dad of the house.

R314, Nothing in that post is remotely racist, dumbass. There is a backlash against changing of the race of characters. That's not opinion. It's fact.

Has anybody seen this? I thought he was gay. And I thought these blinds were true.

F&F the idiot who keeps posting items from Blind Gossip and CDAN

Cavill sucked. Or, at least, that version of the character sucked. That Superman was so bland/dour. Just an unpleasant experience to view.

I liked him in the latest MI movie, actually.

R320 sorry, what do you think now? That he is gay or that the blind are true? I don't understand your post?

For exemple, I think that his blinds are lies posted by his team or the studios to make him appear straight, is that what you mean? I also think that social media and forums like this one are monitored by the pr co and that sometimes they post shit to "create some buzz"...

And I get very suspicious when the shit poster has never posted before, but I'm being paranoid R320, you might have just change computer? Are friend with 430 from the main thread?

Just in case you are on the Garcia co or Viewpoint payroll : Jennifer Allen and Dany Garcia can go fuck themself! If I ever met Dany I would even give her a big kick in her genital, just to check if the extra skin growing in between her legs (thanks to steroids) is has sensitive as a dick!

xxx

FUCK!! "as" sensitive...

I love his bubble butt. Would rim that ass 4 days.

I usually hate facial hair, but he looked hot as fuckin' shit with the mustache in Mission: Impossible. I never "got" him until I saw that movie.

I want to see him more muscular and defined.

Henry said he had way more fun with Tammy on MI. So he's sorry, not sorry. Relieved Superman is in the past and he can look forward to partnering with Tammy in more projects. They hit it off SO WELL!

He's already in Budapest.

Well, if Henry fails as an actor he can always become a bodybuilder. He has the genetics for it and the sex appeal to turn the judges on whenever he wants :)

[Quote] Well, if Henry fails as an actor he can always become a bodybuilder.

Eww no.

He needs to steer clear of bodybuilding. Besides, there's no real money in it, and once he stops, he'll have a ton of weight on him.

I think people know Henry Cavill more for his muscles tha for his acting career.

R334)

So, that's Dany Garcia's contribution to Henry's acting career? As a manager, she was supposed to tailor his career into something more.

[Quote] he'll have a ton of weight on him.

Which he would hate.

He is literally a bodybuilder. He is forced to build a lot of muscle to play Superman and his fame owes a lot to his sex appeal.

Well, there is no more Superman for him. He should just get down to the business of slimming down.

[Quote] Well, there is no more Superman for him. He should just get down to the business of slimming down.

R.I.P

His titties are giggling on that gif.

No slimming down. I want muscles.

I wonder if WB or any studio will ever hire him again after WB put him on blast. That's quite rare for a studio to do.

R341 It's not like he looks terrible when he's slimmer.

Oh, I loved his body in Immortals.

No, but I like him massive. R343

Ugh!

He's too bloated looking to be anything but a villain in movies, but since he's shut out of film acting. . . I guess that's no longer a problem.

Is there longer video of R339? I need more. God, that fucking hairy chest is glorious. His Immortals body does nothing for me. The furrier he is the better.

Is it just my idea or he has never shown any particular reciprocity to his homosexual fans?

I only see gay guys praising him for his attractiveness but he seems pretty indifferent to his gay fanbase...

R348) You tell me. It starts at 22:02

Uh? R349

Ryan Seacrest and the stage manager had the hots for him.

But where is Henry addressing gay fans in that video?

R347 You didn't see BvS??

Anyway. Son Goku has literally overshdowed Superman worldwide. When ti come ot saving the world people think of Son Goku; not Superman.

Henry's next bear dog will be named Son.

True r348. I can't recall Cavill ever talking about gay fans or gay issues.

[quote] but since he's shut out of film acting. . . I guess that's no longer a problem.

Is he??!!

R348 the guy has done multiple beardings to kill the gay rumors, you really think he's going to say something about his gay fans? Outside Gaga, who acknowledge their gay fans? Consider him hanging with Corey as being an acknowledgement for the all community. He put his foot in his mouth when he talked about #oscarsowhite or #metoo, what can you expect from the guy?

I'm not a fan of anybody, I don't follow artists; I just naturally find Henry Cavill exceptionally attractive like most people, he obviously stands out because of his genetic superiority (if we can call it that...) in terms of attractiveness and I think this is literally the very reason why he is popular and not so much because of his acting skills. Gays tend to exalt the beauty of men and seem to have an influence in raising artists to popularity but I have never seen him address or being playful with his gay fans which obviously are a huge number. R358

[quote]Outside Gaga, who acknowledge their gay fans

What? Is that a real question? Tons and tons of celebrities, it is fairly common

I’m all for colorblind casting, but Superman is not black. You cannot just cast a black actor as Superman and say “Oh, he’s black now.” How insulting to black people, like their whole identity is just a different tint and nothing more.

The Last Son of Krypton just happens to be black, okay, but are the Kents black? Did this black Kal-El just fall from the sky into the laps of (the only?) two black farmers in Kansas? Or did still-white Ma and Pa Kent “adopt” young Clark from “the inner city?” And that’s not going to change his story, being a black kid growing up in Kansas?

Or are we really going to shake things up and make the whole thing “blackish,” and move the Kents to, I don’t know, Harlem? And do a whole “Black Clark Kent growing up in the big city” (Bigville?) thing?

Is this still Superman? Or is it more like the Wiz? At a certain point it becomes a whole new character, and I don’t think it improves at all.

Similarly Tyler Hoechlin does not fit the role.

[quote]The Last Son of Krypton just happens to be black, okay,

Yes, I hope we can both agree that a Kryptonian being black or white makes no difference. I mean it is already silly that this alien race looks identical to humans, there is no logical argument for why their skin color has to be a certain way.

[quote]Did this black Kal-El just fall from the sky into the laps of (the only?) two black farmers in Kansas? Or did still-white Ma and Pa Kent “adopt” young Clark from “the inner city?”

You lose me when you start throwing out terms like inner city, White couples adopt black kids all the time. There would be nothing unusual about it.

[quote]And that’s not going to change his story, being a black kid growing up in Kansas?

I'm sure his backstory will still be about being a god-like alien who just wanted to try to hide and be a normal Kansas teen. His skin color being different than most of his peers pales in comparison to him being able to fly through a mountain.

[quote]Is this still Superman?

I'm really not advocating changing his skin color honestly, but I do think Superman is a character in which it doesn't matter.

I had no idea there would be a black Superman. The idea of being incluive perhap is taking extreme levels. I as a homosexual guy have no need for a gay Superman. Not hving a gay Superman does not being exclusion.

Zack and Co. hired a guy that looked like he fell off the pages of Action Comics No. 1, and adapted Superman: Earth One for Man of Steel. And people lost their fucking minds because it was an iteration of the character that didn't have corny one liners and him saving cats from trees. Do you honestly think that WB is going to deviate even further and make Superman black? It ain't going to happen. WB/DC is dealing with enough backlash from the race change casting of Starfire and most recently, Black Canary for Birds of Prey.

R359 the only genetic part in his "beauty" is his face, the rest was built for the big screen. You should read the 20 threads in the archive of DL. He is a studio's puppet, they'd rather died that let their property have "is he gay?" rumors, so there is no room for addressing gay fans, they're too busy dealing with geek fans anyway.

I would bet money it's Warner Bros or Henry's management who added the black superman idea to "create buzz", because they needed a reaction from the fans, so they baited bullshit, as usual. Because there is nothing as genuine as triggered racists apparently! They got the reaction they wanted, they now know the fans wants to keep Henry, it doesn't change the fact they have no project for a Superman movie. That's how they consider fans, a bunch of morons they can manipulate at will, are you sure you want Henry to address his gay fans?

Even if the gay community is large in number, the studios will always choose to cater for the conservative part of the population, who outnumber the gay community.

[quote]Black Panther has always been a black man. The fact that it was successful had nothing to do with his being black - and point of fact, while it did very well in the US, it didn't do nearly as well internationally.

Evidently, you pulled that out of your ass to attempt to support your argument. As R292 posted, per Box Office Mojo, BLACK PANKER made $700 million (52% of its total gross) domestically and $646 million (48%) in the foreign market. And saying that such a ratio is “not that great” (R293) is more bullshit.

[quote]What Black Panther actually proves is that to be a commercial success in the +$800 million range, you need fans who are willing to see the movie multiple times.

No shit. That is the case for the vast majority of Hollywood blockbusters: Repeat viewings.

[quote]The Chinese market is increasingly important, and studios try to minimize black presence in certain films for China.

Which has fuck-all to do with Cavill being let go from the role. Of course, due to DL’s obsession with them, this thread become yet [italic]another[/italic] rant about black people, about whom DLers are such experts (even though they hate them) per their omniscient posts. Start a different thread about the world coming to an end if a black man is cast as Superman [bold]if it actually happens[/bold]. This thread was supposed to be about Cavill.

What R280 said.

BLACK PANZER

Henry is the best looking man in the entire world. I do wish he gave more acknowledgement to his gay fans, who keep his box office numbers high even when his performances bomb

[Quote] Similarly Tyler Hoechlin does not fit the role.

TYLer would be fine as Superman if he shaved his eyebrows.

Wondering if Henry's cock is also massive as his muscles...

He's British, so it's UNCUT!

Yum!

[quote]Henry is the best looking man in the entire world. I do wish he gave more acknowledgement to his gay fans, who keep his box office numbers high even when his performances bomb.

High box office? Where are the receipts for that? Do you know this man is being benched partly because of the underperformance of his Superman run?

Apparently, his gay fans weren't enough to stop his many turkeys.

It's difficult to explain but certainly he is genetically gifted which makes him exceptionally attractive. Testosterone has modelled his whole biology to make poeple want to be fucked by him. But in real life he seems to be rather shy and not as sexual as one would expect of a man like him...

[quote] Testosterone has modelled his whole biology to make poeple want to be fucked by him.

Testosterone? Fucked by him?

R371 There's nothing wrong with his eyebrows.

R375 What are you talking about?

I agree with R375 It's very weird how little Henry tries to flaunt his sex appeal when not acting in a roll. Nothing on IG, or in interviews, or anything. It's almost like he doesn't enjoy being a sex symbol at all.

R374 Man of Steel and BvS were both huge box office successes. all of them over 600 million worldwide which is well over budget plus advertising. They were just failures when it came to quality, and they made far less than Marvel movies. Its part of why it took years to fire Snyder, for all the embarrassment, he was still making them money

Both MOS and BVS underperformed compared to expecations (similar titles at Marvel) and they also were both hugely expensive.

He will now begin dating Aaron Schock.

R379 That's true but Marvel movies are among the highest grossing films of all time, you can dramatically underperform them and still make money, like the DCEU has done

This is all Martha's fault.

"Make money" is not enough for superhero movies these days. They need to make many millions, if not billions in profit to finance other movies for the studios. Precisely why Henry and Ben were escorted out the building.

[quote]Henry is the best looking man in the entire world.

He is definitely up there, but this statement is just ridiculous. Get out more.

It's a shame WB/DC blamed Cavill and Affleck, they could have done more had the studio not allowed itself to be stuck in Snyder-verse (see: Wonder Woman's success, even with Gadot's imperfect casting).

[Quote] even with Gadot's imperfect casting).

Is she really that bad?? Who did you want to play WW??

I thought Gadot's casting was great! What other decent actresses out there are beautiful, naturally athletic, and 6ft tall?

Gal Gadot is 5’10”.

I didn't think she was terrible at all, just a smaller (less muscular) than I anticipated and hoped. She really ended up doing a wonderful job, though, even though she wasn't physically 'Amazonian'.

Sorry that my previous statement came off so scathingly towards her.

[Quote] naturally athletic

????

[quote] This is all Martha's fault.

Bag o’ frozen peas time.

[quote] He will now begin dating Aaron Schock.

That would be hilarious.

He’s gorgeous.

Watching The Man from U.N.C.L.E this weekend and he was very good in it.

Were they ever going to do a part 2?

R393 Some time ago Armie baited a sequel, alas, no news for the moment... It's a WB movie, they could do a sequel to "complete" his contract? (Henry is suppose to have a movie left on his contract). That's not what he wants, but that's what I want...

Sadly I think Man from UNCLE lost lost, so I doubt there will be a sequel. I agree it was delightful

lost money*

.....

[quote] It's almost like he doesn't enjoy being a sex symbol at all.

Gurl please. Just because he tries to maintain a relatively classy persona, he clearly relishes in being a sex symbol.

R378 Are you sure about that?

Yeah that is a good example r399, he clearly enjoys his sex symbol status. I don't know how someone couldn't see that.

Which of course he does.

He smirks a lot.

His smirks are sexy. Much sexier than the two most frequent expressions they made him wear as Superman: pained and bland.

With both a smirk and smile as sexy as he has, and they wasted them both.

[quote] Much sexier than the two most frequent expressions they made him wear as Superman: pained and bland. With both a smirk and smile as sexy as he has, and they wasted them both.

Superman is measured and temperate. The character is not intended to be sexy, especially not with Zack's Messianic symbolism. Meanwhile, Superman/Clark smiled at the fisherman on the boat, at the waitress in the diner, smiled throughout his first flight, smiled at Martha Kent upon returning home, smiled at Lois while in the interrogation room, even smiled upon meeting Faora-Ul, smiled after saving Lois from the pod crash, smiled again while with Martha Kent, smiled at Gen. Swannick and smiled at the Daily Planet in the last frame of the film.

[quote]The character is not intended to be sexy, especially not with Zack's Messianic symbolism.

What? Snyder leaned into Superman being sexy. He gave him a a nice shirtless scene at the beginning, and even had a character directly talk about how hot Superman was.

[quote] Hips too wide.

Found it, this was how "Man Of Steel" ended.

He looks very uninteresed during that vide R400

I found him cavalier in his amusement.... he could do Cary Grant type comedy. Previously I just thought he was beef tenderloin.

Ezra's cranium looks the width of Cavill's hips in that snap, R405. Weird.

[quote] What? Snyder leaned into Superman being sexy. He gave him a a nice shirtless scene at the beginning, and even had a character directly talk about how hot Superman was.

Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Hugh Jackman, Jason Momoa, and Stephen Amell have all had shirtless scenes and similar comments about their characters in their comic properties.

I know what R405 means by Cavill having wide hips.

Yes, those characters were all meant to be sexy r410. That is common with comic book characters in the modern era, they are purposely objectified as beefcake. What is your point?

Some more than others R412. Spider-man and Nighwing have large gay followings and them comics show them with minimal clothing or in sexual situations very often. That's much less true for Superman. Even allusions to Clark and Lois having sex are rare

How can Superman and Lois have sex? One thrust and she’s obliterated.

LMAO dude clearly if he can shake hands with regular people as Clark Kent, he can control himself at other times. They have a kid in current continuity

O-face

I don't think Spidermna is objectified for homosexual pleasure. That would scare heterosexual fans of Spiderman.

R417 He is quite a bit. Straight fans don't really notice, for Nightwing or Spiderman.

Spider-man is regularly close to naked in his comics, frequently for no reason. Even in the new PS4 game, one of the optional costumes is Spider-man is him in only boxers.

We'll have at least *one* Superman movie this year...

Interesting...

Spider-Man spends a lot of time swinging from his webs with this ankles above his shoulders.

The new spider-man game is also full of pride flags all over NYC. This is the stuff they always do with spider-man. Lots of stuff gay fans will love, that straight people just don't notice

[Quote] How can Superman and Lois have sex? One thrust and she’s obliterated.

Which is why i hope they give these 2 a shot eventually.

National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood aka NO MA’AM

I didn't know that R418 I don't read US comics; only manga but I know how terrified of homosexuality and homoeroticism your average reader of US comics is.

Will he finally come out?

What do we know?

R424 a Al Bundy's reference! I used to watch the show every sunday morning, loved the neighbour!

Kal!

Why ARE his hips so wide? Unbalanced hormones?

R428 Lol i like Married With Children but that reference went right over my head.

"He played Superman as an aspies blank ... "

r34 - that's what the heroes of today's millennial audiences are - sociopathic, robotic, psychopathic, blank, you name it. Millennials think it's edgy and dark ...

I feel the same way about Zac Efron, they are exlpoited by Hollywwod for their looks although I find Henry much more handsome. There is somehitng about Henry's genetics that made him exceptioanllly attractive sexually, something most men don't have.

[quote]Will he finally come out?

He needs to because he will never have that A-list career he craves. He should just get the dick and be happy.

[Quote] He needs to

I have a feeling he would disagree with that.

If Superman were gay (or bisexual) played by Henry and he saved guys taking them in his strong arms, flying them over the city I would feel more interested in watching Superman movies. I'm tired of Superman saving women, taking them in his arms and kissing them.

[Quote] I'm tired of Superman saving women, taking them in his arms and kissing them.

Lots of Superman fans can't even deal with him dating someone that isn't Lois, let alone a guy.

Good, maybe now he'll come out.

Perhaps someone should create a superhero for homosexual guys. Although I would also advise to learn from Japanese manga because US comics need renovation R437

R439 There are some, they're just not in the movies.

The closest Superman ever came to anything gay was briefly in a Supergirl comic when he was exposed to some Pink Kryptonite and commented on the attractiveness of Jimmy Olsen wearing bowties.

[quote]I'm tired of Superman saving women, taking them in his arms and kissing them.

When does that happens? Is that some Golden Age bit of business because other than Lois and more recently Wonder Woman, Superman isn't kissing women.

He looks thin here.

R442 Don't forget Lana Lang.

Behind the scenes of MOS. Watch Cavill get the rub down.

And again. . .

Lucky assholes. I'd pay a months salary to rub down Henry

Wonder how much they got paid to do that 😍

I do think Henry just has perfect genetics. Anyone can work out but it's impossible to get his jaw or broad shoulders

Nice ass I third pic.

Damn, he is handsome, if nothing else.

That oil rubber in R446 was getting a lot of the oil on his coat sleeve, so I guess that meant he had to keep applying oil.

On his IG he looks like down-to-earth guy, away from the the ultra sexualised and virilised actor Hollywood makes of him.

R453 he also used his IG to promote his last bearding, don't get your hope too high, you will be disappointed. He loves to troll too. When it was time to apologise for the #metoo comment, they used Dany's IG, they're not crazy...

His arms looks skinny compared to that broad back of his.

That may be the best built back I've ever seen. As was said above, you just can't get shoulders that wide without good genetics.

R453 Henry really isn't a very sexual person at all.

They must be easing up a bit on Batman too seeing as how they're letting him appear in the Gotham finale.

Damn, R455! So fine.

Straight

R457 No, they want Batman. It's just that Ben doesn't want to play him. They kicked Henry and his demands to the curb.

[Quote] No, they want Batman. It's just that Ben doesn't want to play him.

They'll always want Batman. Doesn't mean they had to let him appear on tv again.

Henry was completely scapegoated for DC. None of their movies have been successful. He was well cast. And he was pretty good in the light hearted moments of Justice Leauge. Snyder ruined something that could have been great

Agree with you, R462

[Quote] None of their movies have been successful.

Except for Wonder Woman.

Oh yes R464 Good point. However I'd add that Snyder had nothing to do with that one and I think it shows. I just wish Henry had a shot at the role under someone with better vision for the franchise. He could have been great

[Quote] I just wish Henry had a shot at the role under someone with better vision for the franchise. He could have been great

Same

The cast for his new series, The Witcher, is very low end. I thought there would be more prestige actors or names in there. But after Cavill, the most known actor is MyAnna Buring (who did voice acting for one of the game’s DLC).

This will be the next Game a’ Throooooones!

He should be cast as live action Sterling Archer. I'd pay to see that in a heartbeat

I’ve read others make that casting suggestion. I would also pay to see that.

Casted

He would be a fantastic Archer

Re: Wonder Woman

[quote]However I'd add that Snyder had nothing to do with that one and I think it shows.

Uh, he was the producer.

[Quote] Uh, he was the producer.

Isn't he the producer on all of them?

This project was never going to be a "prestige" project. I thought it was funny that delusional fanboys thought otherwise.

Just give me Cavill butt Netflix, I promise I will watch it no matter how terrible if you deliver that.

Cavill sometimes looks like Matt Bomer...don’t know how.

R476 Yeah....weird that.

R477 Haha, they could actually be twins.

Looks more like Jamie Dormat I say.

Nah, Jamie is more the “cute” type. Henry has more masculine features.

Meanwhile....

Remember him before the steroids,booze,bearding. Bellissimo!

He was beautiful in the Tudors. His features have changed since. He’s still handsome but in Shrek kind of way.

I'm amazed how much older he looks.

You are amazed that someone looks older 11 years later r485?

DLers are always stunned that people age.

My word R413 He is almost supernaturally beautiful there.

Sometimes I’m glad I’m ugly. To be that beautiful and have to lose it to age would be horrific to me.

He's Handsome Squidward

Pietro Boselli, they more or less look alike.

Cavill must be a hermit now.

[Quote] He's Handsome Squidward

Lol is he?!

.....

So now The Witcher is getting criticism because of how young his love interest is.

Sorry, nice chest, but his acting here does not convey any believable idea of evil.

Just focus on the abs R495

The hairy chest you mean R496

I didn't know men of steel had hairy chests too.

Steel wool, R497.

Cute

I want to know how hard Superman can fuck with his dick of steel.

You always see Superman get more gay attention than Batman. Why is that?

Visible face?

R500 This is what happened when he hooked up with Wonder Woman.

Ok, I like Tyler H. but he’s more for the small screen, imo.

I remember that he wanted to audition for Bond, but then he said that they wanted a British actor lol.

He auditioned for Batman too when they were casting for BvS. I think he dodged a bullet.

R506 Agreed with that one. Batman is not for him. Let’s see if this supposed Superman series is a go.

R507 I guess it'll depend on how his chemistry is with Lois. But i'm still not really sure why they'd bother making one when they basically turned Kara into a female Superman.

R508 So who is in talks to play Lois?

R509 it's Bitsie Tulloch.

I don't think it will work. Kara is way more relatable than Kal, it's her whole point.

How is she more relatable?

R512 Think of her like Veronica Mars.

R513 Did not expect that comparison. It's funny because Clark is usually the more relatable one and Kara can be an ice queen. Maybe that's the direction they'll go in with the Supergirl movie.

Kal grew up with super powers and acts like a high and mighty figure.

Kara is what you or I would be like if we just woke up with super powers one day, like she did

[Quote] Kara is what you or I would be like if we just woke up with super powers one day, like she did

A somewhat popular trope these days.

His only talent is being able to do an American accent.

R504 I don't like the way the cape is attached to his costume, it's suppose to be like a Roman centurion? The worst was Brandon Routh's supe, with the cape "tuck in" his collar, just ridiculous.

Yeah, but no one has a butt like Tyler.

R518 What do you think about this costume?

R519 Both Henry and Tyler have nice butts.

R521 Tyler just a bit more ha.

R522 Henry's is bigger though.

R520 it looks cheap compare to the JL version, but it's not an official picture, with some fancy lights etc... (still don't like the way the cape is attached to the costume)

R524 Most of them do. But i think Batwoman's is one of the worst.

The young man at R518 is so handsome.

Cavill definitely has a better butt than Hoechlin, don't be fooled by trickery.

Couldn't hurt for them to have a squat off.....for science.

The look of Hoechlin’s butt as Superman was the result of padding and photoshop.

I still like it at R528

So now they're adding Lex Luthor.

They are planning on doing a full Superman series now that the movie series is dead r535.

R536 But why do they need to have him on Supergirl first?? Whoever they pick i bet he won't be as good as Rosenbaum.

Never mind

HA! I had my doubts as well.

Hoechlin cannot compete with Henry Cavill. He's hot but Henry Cavill has the ideal alpha male look: big and dense muscles, intimidating appearance and lots of sex appeal.

[Quote] Hoechlin cannot compete with Henry Cavill. He's hot but Henry Cavill has the ideal alpha male look: big and dense muscles, intimidating appearance and lots of sex appeal.

Beauty is in the eye of the blah blah blah....

The problem with Tyler: I need more range.

I've been called out for saying this but I still can't think of any man at all I'd consider more conventionally attractive than Henry Cavill

[Quote] The problem with Tyler: I need more range.

I think you're going to be waiting a while. I loved him on Teen Wolf but he was hit and miss on that show.

[Quote] I've been called out for saying this but I still can't think of any man at all I'd consider more conventionally attractive than Henry Cavill

Everyone has their faves.

R543 Well, Henry is conventionally attractive...it’s pretty objective.

R545 But what Im saying is I think he's the most conventionally attractive of any male celebrity in the world

R544 Yea, man. Exactly...sometimes I could see a bit of a difference there...like maybe more than two facial lines moving...but in other scenes..meh. He was better in Everybody wants Some.

R546 Ok, that’s a bit over the top hahahaha. Whatever, I don’t judge.

[Quote] Yea, man. Exactly...sometimes I could see a bit of a difference there...like maybe more than two facial lines moving...but in other scenes..meh. He was better in Everybody wants Some.

Physicality was fine, but line delivery needed work. Though I wouldn't expect emmy award winning acting on an mtv show. I think he's probably similar in real life to the character he played in EWS (anger issues aside).

Superman is pure steel testosterone.

[quote] Superman is pure steel testosterone

Well I guess that makes Henry not the right person for the role.

Been getting alot of comments that I look like Clark Kent do you agree?*

Oh lord, every fit guy who wears glasses think they look like Superman

He was just enticing viewers; it's pretty obvious, all for views on IG.

Not all men have the distinct alpha maleness Henry Cavill possesses.

[quote] Not all men have the distinct alpha maleness Henry Cavill possesses.

Haha. Cavill exudes “femme”.

R551 No, hahaha. The boy is too cute.

Well, the costume is close enough.

Other than that, not really.

I agree Henry isn't at all masculine. I actually find the juxtaposition of his personality with those masculine looks really appealing

He's so fkin beautiful. I want to be his sex slave.

R558 You and a million other people.

I don't see him as effeminate.

He tries to don the masc persona now, but check him out before he became all Hollywood r560.

He used to be all happy

Opps forgot link

Though he won't behave like this anymore

R561 potathoe!

R564 He might if his phone doesn't start ringing with offers.

....

R566 he is busy for the next year filming for Netflix, he is in no hurry to "look happy" again. And his new model for feminity is Dany Garcia, so... (for info she is on the left in the picture)

R568 Hahaha, that’s feminity, better just name some male models.

She has bigger forearms than Cavill.

Ms Henrietta will land on her feet. She strikes me as a very tough and resilient girl. She be fine.

Girl?

It's difficult to understand why a woman would want to alter her body to look like a man, especially when not suffering from gender dysphoria. I guess some women had very strong male models in their lives and they want to embody that they admire, even if it makes them look like men.

I forgot how sexual and “nasty” Henry Cavill can play.

He was very sensual on the Tudors and he was in one of the straight to video Hellraiser sequels where he plays a total asshole. I remember a scene where he’s berating his girlfriend over the phone while getting fellated by a party skank. Something like that anyway.

Here is the scene r574 was talking about

R583, did you post in the wrong thread or is that still discussion of one of the comic book characters?

[quote]I forgot how sexual and “nasty” Henry Cavill can play.

I haven't.

In a year or two he will be completely bald and forgotten. Meanwhile Betty White will still be holding on.

Well, I hope he hooks up w/a good dude and find some peace, if that's the case. All of this hiding in the closet stuff must suck for him.

I cannot have pity for him R579 Gays absolutely worship this guy (I do it too, not trying to call out anyone) and still he finds shame in his identity.

R580 You forgot to write the postmenopausal women. No offence to them.

[quote] Dylan O'Brien, as Iceman instead of Ashmore.

R215 final answer, sweetie?

R581 That is true. Henry has so old ass female fans.

He is balding fast, the end is nigh.

He just needs to loosen up and slip into some gay clubs to get his grove back.

R584 Thank God he has the money to fix that sort of problem.

Cute R587 ☝️😀

Well, who said Marlon Brando was a good father anyway.

[quote] Well, who said Marlon Brando was a good father anyway.

I was saying Boo-urns.

R473 In name only. That was Jenkins project, through and through.

R591 He was involved in choosing WW1 instead of the WW2 setting for Wonder Woman

[Quote] He was involved in choosing WW1 instead of the WW2 setting for Wonder Woman

So that's [italic]one[/italic] smart decision he made.

Henrietta Cavill will go down in history as one of the greatest thespians ever. Who brought joy to millions with her range and pathos.

No, R594. But with his chiseled face, male voice, out of this world torso and amazing ass, yes.

There are different says to bring joy to millions.

Everyone in Hollywood are 'roided up cardboard cut outs like Ms Cavill. Soul less and empty but pretty.

As the great prophetess Sheila E sang: Without love it ain't much, it ain't much.

Jesus. End this thread already.

They need to make 5 different versions of Supes like they are doing with The Joker. All at once.

Tout suite.