The Thread to Hate on ABC's "A Million Little Things" Before It Even Premieres

I already like it better than I like you, OP.

I hate shows like this. ABC is trying way too hard to be relevant and socially responsible. It's like they're saying, "We're sorry about that whole Roseanne thing, so we'll give you this to make up for it!"

Asian girl married to a white guy - check

Upwardly mobile African American couple - check

Casually dressed upper class white soccer mom - check

Is the bearded guy gay? You need a gay guy! Or a transgender!

Looking forward to the show. Attractive cast.

Oh... You're all old and don't know people like these. Gotcha. Makes sense you already hate it.

I couldn't help but wonder . . . had Jack Berger gotten a face full o' filla?

R4 We all know people like these, which is why the show looks so nauseatingly cloying and awful.

Gee, I thought it looked like a great show

But what about the children? My God, the children!

Anxiously awaiting the episodes featuring Caitlyn Jenner as the transgender child psychiatrist counseling the kids of the father who killed himself.

[quote]Anxiously awaiting the episodes featuring Caitlyn Jenner as the transgender child psychiatrist counseling the kids of the father who killed himself.

"Who knows why he killed himself? For all we know, it was because he couldn't get in my panties because he didn't know me. That sounds like as good a reason as any, right? It makes me sad to think of all the people out there who killed themselves because they couldn't BE me, much less have me. Well, we'll never know. Because they are dead. But that's my hunch why. And now that I've said it out loud, I know it is true. Sad, isn't it? Well, that's all we have time for today. Next time, let's talk about my shoes."

-- Caitlyn Jenner

It does look bad

I can already hear the dialogue:

"Why didn't we see the signs? What did we miss?"

"Don't blame yourself. There's nothing you could have done."

"A part of me died when he died."

"He would want you to take a lesson from his death and learn to live!"

"But how do I go on from here? He was everything to me. I'm nothing without him."

"You're not alone. We're all here for you. We'll get through this together."

R11 Oh, and we have a cancer guy, too! The hits just keep coming!

Do you know why lead character kills himself?

Spolier

Because he's accused of molesting his own kids!

Hard pass for me on this one.

Yes indeed. A show to avoid. The earnestness of the commercial as if its some virtuous contribution to society makes me want to gag. Kind of like This is Us -

R11 The wispy-voiced vocal fry singer, too! Is there any cliché this show hasn't turned out?

This is such a rip off of that NBC show with the fat girl on it.

Which one of these characters will be the fat girl?

Seriously, R14? Is that true?

You also can count on one of people in the group had an affair with the dead guy.

R17 The characters are just fat on the inside.

Is Sean Faris in it?

Yes, and even better, none of the friends will know that's the real reason he offed himself.

His wife knows, but she's keeping that secret to herself, for now.

R19 It'll be the black girl. Got to have diversity in our extramarital relations, too.

"This will teach me to have a black friend."

-- Asian Woman

I actually love the diverse cast but the previews were nauseating. R12 is right—full of cliches.

Will this make me cry like This Is Us?

R26 It's gonna try its damndest!

"But why? He was at the top of his game! He had everything to live for!"

"If only I had know what he was going through. I could've helped."

"He was my lover. My teacher. My best friend. My everything."

Hmm, so I watched the trailer and the guy on the left is having an affair. The dead guy killed himself after a phone call with the same guy. It's implied that they were having an affair, so we could get closeted, suicidal gays! Oh joy!

I predict a quick demise for this show, just like its lead character.

R11 Drinking wine by a fire pit!

Tossing a few back with the bros at the bar and getting deep!

Running at night to vent frustrations, dammit!

Remembering the good times!

I'm barfing already.

I'm all for diversity, but I hate diversity like this. These people would not be friends. I could see the black guy being a friend, but his wife would have gotten tired of all that friend nonsense years ago. That Asian lady in the business wear would not be married to that hot guy. He doesn't look ambitious enough. And the guy in the middle looks at least 10 and the black lady look at least 10-15 years older than everyone else.

GIRL: "Blackmail!"

GUY: "I know he was a black male. He was my best friend, dammit!"

GIRL: "No, blackmail!"

GUY: "I know he was a black male. He was my best friend, dammit!"

[this goes on and on until the second commercial break]

Berger is the guy that kills himself? Did he leave a post-it note behind saying "I'm sorry - I can't"?

ABC is trying to have their "This is Us" type show.

They're all too skinny to be believable.

It looks like this show was based on a prescription drug television ad.

Didn't TV producers learn anything from this abysmal failure?

To me it looks like it's gonna be an even worse version of 30 Something. The last thing I need to see is a bunch of well to do 30s whining about their lives. 30 Something got old really fast and IMO this show got old before it even begun. The commercials alone are a turn off. Won't be watching.

N A U S E A T I N G

Any show that brings Mary-Louise Parker back to television will be worth watching.

So cold and shrewdly calculated. Vile

What else would you expect from network television?

I just watched the trailer. It's like The First Wives Club, but without the pizzazz.

Well, 45 posts within 2 hours tells me this will be a huge hit with DLers. Saving space on my DVR as I type.

There is no diversity. These are all beautiful people with money. It looks like a reboot of Thirtysomething.

Typical of these "diversity" shows, the white guys are prominently displayed in the middle on the promo image, the women are leaning/hanging on the men, and the "ethnic" characters are decidedly whitewashed in their clothing and hairstyles.

Well, it's got that cute guy from that weird show about the man beasts or whatever they were so maybe he'll take his shirt off. But strange there is no ostensibly gay character for comic relief.

The trailer makes it look like a Desperate Housewives (longtime friends investigating their friend's suicide) rip-off without the camp and comedy.

I would rather it had starred Sean Faris, too.

Wow. Trolls complaining about PC diversity? Must be a day that ends with y.

I've been to dozens of weddings in my life (cities, suburbs, rural), and I've never seen the types of bridal parties you see on TV - white groom with 3 black groomsmen, an Asian, a guy in a wheelchair, a rainbow of bridesmaids and ALWAYS a best-friend officiant of color.

Just type in bridal parties, groomsmen and bridesmaids - and you'l see what this country is really all about outside the island of Manhattan and the Hollywood hills.

It looks fabulous.

I love Ron Livingston but this is a hard pass. I cant stand schmaltzy weepy shit.

r52, and I've never been to a place like Westeros where Dragons and Night Walkers roam free. Totally ruins Game of Thrones for me.

It looks fabulous.

I just have to laugh that they all met while stuck in an elevator. They couldn't be high school classmates, or neighbors, or hell, patients at the same dentist. No, they met while stuck in an elevator.

The scene with the doctor felt like an SNL parody. This series seems like one big false note. Who writes this shit?

Isn't Ron Livingston a bit old to be playing some sort of contemporary of the rest of the cast?

It looks like a modern thirty something

And the pill scene. Ugh.

I’m black and I don’t think it’s racist to point out that TV diversity is actually some white writers in a room deciding to make some of their white characters non white. I’m always happy to see actors of color getting jobs, but sometimes all you can do is shake your head at the lack of thought put into this.

Where are the people of size?

r62, would do you expect then. Black actors only playing rappers and thugs? Because they can't live regular lives that are associated with *gasp* Whites?

Sorry. WHAT would you expect then? ... Because black characters can't live regular lives that are ...

I'm trying to figure out the photo. The black guy has 2 women and what is the bearded guy's story?

Maybe they could flesh out the cast with a fat sassy black receptionist and a bisexual East Indian dude who cuts himself?

Yes, that exactly what I would expect dumb ass @64. Why don’t you think before you post.

Are they all DINKs?

(I didn't seee any children in the promo).

r68, I am not the one who has trouble to accept fictional black characters having white friends.

Seriously, r62, you sound ignorant.

Yes I’m ignorant. You’ve discovered my secret.

Where are the reverse Lesbians with excessive nosehair?

It’s for the frauen. They’ll love it. I can envision my ex-sister-in-law’s Facebook posts already: “Almost time for AMLT. Got my wine and tissues ready.”

Not again! Not... again!!!

We've been listening and decided on some last minute cast changes adding Mindy Cohn to our ground-breaking series. We're hoping Mindy will add that much needed comic flair to the show.

Have you seriously seen anything promising this season

[quote] Have you seriously seen anything promising this season

I hadn't until R76

I refuse to watch another show that employs the annoying flashback to tell the story. This will flip flop back and forth between time and drag like hell.

I will definitely watch it for Mindy Cohn.

Why am I just learning that Mindy Cohn was making her return to network TV. I’ll watch to see her.

Fraunip.

Wow, I wasn't aware Mindy Cohn has only a few days to live. That's the reason why she was cast, right?

Who is Mindy playing? If her outfit is any indication, a women’s study proffesir at the local liberal arts college?

Where did you hear Mindy has only a few days left to live?

Featuring a ground breaking strong African American lesbian couple

This series needs Sam Waterston as a homeless man (who turns out to be the sperm donor for the lesbian couple.)

Looks like a"30 Something" reboot

Could they right in a character for Serena Williams?

[quote]Could they right in a character for Serena Williams?

Oh dear...

I hope the guy with cancer dies if they make to a full season.

Maybe Serena's character could cure his cancer?

Looks like a reboot of 30 Something.

I remember the bearded guy being really annoying in something. What was it?

I notice they are trying to make the titles similar to other show too, like "13 Reasons Why". This show will flop, the title is lame and the characters look annoying. Did anyone mention that it looks like a 30 Something reboot?

[quote]Did anyone mention that it looks like a 30 Something reboot?

r56 may have alluded to it.

[quote]Yes, that exactly what I would expect dumb ass @64. Why don’t you think before you post.

Well r68, you may want to go back to reddit that uses the @ to respond to posters.

"Whinysomething" for 2010's? No, thanks.

My issue with the show is how their friends suicide brought them all together because he took the time to make an uplifting Suicide note video. Bitch, nobody who is actually suicidal would take the time to do that shit. They just wanna check the fuck out of life. I just hate shows that glamorize or take suicide lightly because for those of us that struggle, it's not at all like that ABC family drama shit. I'm gonna make a video talking all about how everyone did me wrong before I end it all, shit. Fuck bringing people together.

r59, that's my biggest WTF about this whole thing. I saw a plot description for this series that says that Ron's character is 35. 35??? In what universe does Ron Livingston pass for 35???

This looks like a Millennial version of Thirtysomething, with one Gen X interloper who happens to be dead, Ron LIvingston's character.

Ron Livingston is 51. He looks a bit younger like mid 40s. But, yeah I wouldn't buy him playing a 35 year old.

So, what is the deal with Mindy Cohn?

Just in case no one's noticed, it looks like a reboot of 30 Something.

She is a year older than Ron Livingston, r102.

So is Mindy Cohn in this or not? I Googled and didn't see her attached to this show in any way.

Ron became older and got hot.

This show films in Canada so there will probably be awful Canadian actors in the minor roles.

Isn't Grace Park a little busy with the Allison Mack sex cult? How does she have time to be in this?

Ron has always been hot. He's just dreamy. My pretend husband.

r107, I have no idea what you're talking about, eh?

Anyone know where I can stream 30 something?

The pitch meeting: "How about '13 Reasons Why' except with a million reasons and no tapes but a life lesson every week anyway and a bunch of guys who look like they just met but really met on an elevator, talk about 'meet cute'. and one is a hipster with a beard who stares ahead as he acts and doesn't connect to the others. It'll suck but our audience will love it anyway".

"You don't even know what color eyes I have!"

I predict the black girl was fucking the dead guy before he died.

How can you not know James Roday? He was only on the most brilliant show on television, evah (sorry Ryan. AMS comes in as a very close second). Psyche gives me life. James Roday gives me life. I only hope they let him be funny, and not try to make him funny. He's best when he's weird.

R115 Is the cancer guy? Based on the show's trailer, he's the one I'm hating the most. Well, next to the Asian bitch.

r107 I knew it! This has the bacony stench of Canada all over it! For the Livingston lovers, he was on a show called "Loudermilk" where he plays a recovering drug addict, it's pretty good.

I kinda hate the dead guy, for being dead and all.

I hate them all already.

R116 Yes, he's the cancer guy, but before you judge him, watch Psych. Judge the show, not the actor, lol.

Wow, that trailer wasn't even watchable. The quirky bearded guy and his witty salad comment to the sheepish doctor...I made it as far as the guy speaking at the funeral, "John always said everything happens for a reason.." He did, did her? Well that's why he's dead. Trite comment overdose. I see the black dude is the guy from the 40 year old Virgin and he was good in that, too bad this looks awful.

I don't care for the dead guy either.

I prefer my characters alive and breathing.

I don't r122.

Roday has really packed on the pounds.

Roday looks like shit with the extra weight and beard.

I know it's been said but I REALLY hate the salad cancer scene. I mean really...? It's meant to bond us to him in his struggle by making the doctor so absurdly borish in that moment we can't help but love bearded guy. Nope, sorry, not working. A doctor actually stopping mid-diagnosis of does he/doesn't he have cancer to complain about his lunch order is pretty much unfathomable.

Not to say worse hasn't happened, because offs are it has to have, but still. The premise is so ridiculous I completely lose any focus on whatever they are trying to do with this trailer.

They are treading on some thin ice with what seems to be a "good things that came out of this guy's suicide" arc, but I guess because his suicide stopped the other friend's suicide because heard just as he was swallowing those pills (really?? What are the odds!) they see the ultimate message as suicide is still bad.

Like someone above said, that this suicide is wrapped in a perfectly photogenic bow as he leaves a video of life lessons behind for everyone to learn and grow from is similarly dangerous. Sure he looked good on camera and has some real reassuring messages for everyone, but then he went and jumped off the building and splatted on the sidewalk or blew his head open with a shotgun or whatever. By representing suicide with the reassuring tape to his friends (far as I can tell from the preview) they are giving a glamorous portrayal of suicide, which seems to be all the rage now as the suicide rate continues to climb.

I agree r127. I always think suicide is such a selfish, dick move, plus he had kids. I just don't see why people would be giving glowing testimonials at his funeral, I feel like they (and esp cancer salad guy) would be pissed more than anything.

I’m glad they killed them selves

It will be interesting to see the critics' reviews for this show. If they're brutal and the numbers are not good for the first 2 or 3 episodes, I see ABC yanking this fast, most likely before November sweeps. There was a similar show, also on ABC, a few years ago called "My Generation" that the critics ripped to shreds and it got pulled very quickly. IIRC, it was also a "thirtysomething" retread about an annoying group of friends.

The man standing next to the Asian lady has gay face for DAYS.

I loved thirtysomething and it did not lose its way, it got better as it went along...after they stopped focusing on Michael and Hope.

Is this new show anything like 30 Something? I couldn't tell.

Only on DL will people argue AGAINST diversity. Well... DL and the trump administration.

Jesus r134, no one is arguing against it, they're just saying how contrived it looks. The one Asian girl, the one black couple, it just doesn't seem organic, it seems like they just did it to check off their racial representation boxes.

The dead guy probably fucked the whole cast, and hilarity ensued.

r111, it's running on an endless loop in hell.

Will all the characters be gender fluid?

And R137 is there, running it.

"thirtysomething" was innovative, especially for its time. This looks like bad warmed over "This is Us" stuff. Too earnest by half.

And sorry you has some fans but I despise that bearded actor based on the previews alone. The salad cancer scene, yes, but also staring ahead with no connection to anyone and the histrionic "We don't LISTEN!" or whatever. I want to reach into the set and knock his teeth in and the show hasn't even begun yet.

Did anyone catch the bullshit creator and how he wanted to "do lunch" with some guy and he killed himself and that was the inspiration? How he used that to carry on with life? Kill him now, p;lease (or at least keep his shit off the air).

I'm glad the Hawaii 5-0 chick got a new job after demanding more money and getting the heave-ho

Is that Grace Park? They let her out of that cult?

[quote]Ron became older and got hot.

I agree. Back in the 90s, I didn't find him hot in Swingers or Office Space. A couple of years ago, I watched that TBS show Search Party and he was on it and I thought he looked better than he did in the past.

I think Ron is better looking that his wife Rosemarie Dewitt. They look like an awkward couple in a lot of photos.

Canadian actors, eh? Maybe I can work on it!

ABC is really trying hard to make this show happen. Now they're airing an extended promo that includes "behind the scenes" footage and interviews with the actors and the show's creator. And yes, R140, the creator who says he was inspired to write the show because he had a friend he was gonna "do lunch" with, but he killed himself before they got together, is beyond nauseating.

He goes on to say he believes everything happens for a reason. So I guess he's saying that thanks to his friend who offed himself, he was inspired to create a network ensemble drama. How nice for him.

I agree with OP, and r12 is spot on too. I'm done with abc after they cancelled The Chew for another hour of gma... Buh-bye.

R146 think u were meaning to put that up on the 3rd hour of GMA thread.

I hope it won't be ageist like thirtysomething.

No r147, this is the right thread. I know not of a thread about the 3rd hour of gma.

Why "hate on" instead of "hate"? Millennial affectation or rap turd?

I already hate everyone on this show except for Mindy Cohn.

R151 Except that she's not really in it. That was just a joke.

30something was tolerable when Ken Olin took his shirt off, less so when there was too much Hope cuntiness. Which, honestly, was a lot of the time.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to a Ken Olin equivalent to distract us in this new piece of drivel.

That chick in the red sweater looks like a Parker Posey wannabe.

Dave Guintoli has a nice body.

Fuck yes

The funny thing about Guintoli was that when he started on his previous show, he had a pretty nothing body so when they showed him shirtless one time, he was really underwhelming. Whether he decided it himself or someone told him to get with the program, he obviously started working out so a while later when he took his shirt off again, he'd had a pretty amazing transformation.

Yeah I don't remember that body when he started on Grimm. I specifically Googled him because he had a pretty face and eyes and was surprised he had a nothing body. Guess that has changed!

Ken Olin today..

I just watched the trailer, but I didn’t see Mindy Cohn in it. Who is she playing?

r161 Hope Murdoch

Okay, thanks R162. Looking forward to it. Mindy has to update her IMDB page.

I'm also stuck on how they met. They were stuck on an elevator together?! That is so dumb. Were there other people stuck on the elevator that weren't telegenic enough to be invited into the friend group? Which one of them do you think gave birth in the elevator? To a son named Otis, no doubt.

GEN X + Big Chill + Thirtsomething + current day progressive sensibilities and virtue signaling.

Well, I'm going to watch it and enjoy it regardless of how awful it is. Then I'll come back here and just rave about it, and I'll be sure to mention the really nice mug I was cradling during the whole show.

Geri Jewell would have added much needed diversity to the show. ABC and the rest of the networks should be considering her instead of these whitewashed "minorities."

That's "Road Rules" Dave? I never recognize him.

R129 The dead guy had multiple personalities? Now that's a spin.

Wait, someone earlier said he killed himself because he was accused of molesting his kids? Is that true or is it Mindy Cohn-esque?

R168 He was on Road Rules? I don't remember him.

Yeah, of all people, he probably did the best with alll those seasons of "Grimm". Her was on the turbulent season with cute blond Abe and that disgusting fat black guy who got him kicked off (and then was busted for domestic violence later). You can find sots of Dave stripping and showing naked butt since that was challenge week Abe got kicked off (so we didn't get to see him naked and I was PISSED at the time).

They're constantly running promos on ABC for this show. Why are they pushing it so hard? I have to agree that it looks like it's gonna suck. Hard.

Bring back the Sally Field Programme ABC!

There was just a promo for it on TV, and the voice over said, "Critics are calling it the most watched new fall show." Umm...it hasn't even aired yet. How can it be the most watched?

I don't know. It just seems like a ripoff of thirtysomething.

You can already tell that girl resting her head on the man's shoulder with the mug-cradling grin is going to be total frau nip.

I wonder if in the show he leaves a suicide post it.

I guess from all the replies that this will be DL’s new love to hate watch show. Will there be a thread every week or just one continuing thread?

Maybe this will be our new THE SLAP!

Will this be as bad as that West 40's show?

Ron Livingston, Eric Balfour and Ted McGinley are kryptonite to television. Now they should all do a show together and get Nancy Travis to make the collapse complete.

Ted McGinley is hot though r182, and that's why he is called in.

I ran into Balfour after his latest show tanked.

“Eric..”, I inquired. “Why the long face?”....drops mike!

Watch that shot of Bearded Douchebag Salad Guy where he is giving a woman a one hand shoulder massage off to one side -- and has his head bowed to the floor. Drama! That shot alone makes me hate him even more.

To borrow from Pauline in regards to Streisand in "Star is Born", he looks like he wants to shove his dead friend into a sack and get on with his grieving.

ha r185! the "stare at the floor" was a huge Clooney move on "E.R."

True but Clooney at least connects with other actors (in his films, anyway). Beard Douche can't even connect when he's HUGGING the other guy. He looks like he wants to scoot him out of his close-up.

It would have been great if Sheepish Doctor had told his secretary to hold on and then said, "pipe down, asshole! Some of us still have a life to lead and we want to be healthy unlike you."

I actually used to think James Roday was hot back in the day but then he started packing on the pounds.

With this ensemble cast it seems like it'll be just another Cheers.

R177 "Mug cradling grin." Perfect!

Who's the guy on the left?

R192 Some whore.

OP is probably a disgruntled actor who didn't get one of the leads. Sorry, guess you didn't blow the right people ho.

R194 is the mother of the mug cradler.

Loving the comments here.

So is this going to be one of those weird shows where even though the dead guy kills himself in the pilot, he will continue to be a regular part of the show through the use of flashbacks and such? So even though he's dead he will still be a "part" of the current show.

I've seen movies that use this type of storytelling technique and it always comes off as high handed and pretentious.

Couldn't he be just a friendly ghost who likes to hang around with his old friends instead?

R197 Yes, it's going to be one of those pretentious shows where we see Ron Livingston in flashback, imparting words of wisdom to his adoring friends and family. Then we'll fast forward to the present where the grieving friends and family will struggle to piece together his life and find out why - WHY, MY GOD, WHY - he felt he had to take his own life. AND LEAVE THEM WITH NOTHING! NOTHING! I HATE YOU FOR DOING THIS TO US!

Take a clue, ABC:

Whatever happen to that show, ABC I think, where a bunch of cunts in NYC hit the lottery. It came out even before This is US. Did it canceled quickly?

There are promos for this show on ABC during every freaking commercial break. Man, they're really trying to push this dreck. Hard. If this is the best ABC has on its fall schedule, they're in trouble.

ABC wants this to be the new This Is Us so bad it's embarrassing and a turnoff for the show.

R200 Lucky 7? I linked the show for u in case u wanna watch.

r203, yea that was it. No thanks. Big concept shows on network tv almost NEVER work.

"It was a terrible thing... FOR ME."

instantly hated it when I saw the promo - same thing I felt when I saw the promo for "This is Us"

I know r206, it's so flueky that "This is Us" is doing so well, I wonder why. It's the same shitty formulaic dreck that it submitted for every pilot season. Is it the great big fat person that makes it? They need one on this show too.

Same old formula +Milo's ass = a new hit. Maybe we'll get more nudity across the board. This and the F word are all that is left.

I saw a random poster yesterday for this ABC mess.

Judging from the poster, it already seems unwatchable if there are 3-4 different couples to follow.

Right now I'll call one season for it.

[quote] it's so flueky that "This is Us" is doing so well, I wonder why. It's the same shitty formulaic dreck that it submitted for every pilot season. Is it the great big fat person that makes it?

Since it's almost impossible to link articles from The Telegraph here, I can only recommend looking up their article that contrasts the success of the show in the US vs relative indifference of the UK audiences to it, where it basically fizzled out after one season. It presents an interesting thesis that America embraced this show because of the current political situation (basically, it's a mug of hot cocoa that we can collectively cradle while having a good cry and hugfest) whereas the Brits are much more jaded and less prone to collective emotional manipulation right now.

Thanks r210, I will look that up. Glad to know everyone isn't raving over it, I watched it a few years ago along with a bunch of people here when it came out and it was as bad as I thought it would be.

Wow, r210, this article is scathing! : "Kate and Toby would be an awful couple no matter their body size, but they’re a particularly awful fat couple and I feel that no one is rooting for their ultimate happiness. Kate’s twin, Kevin is equally agonising to watch. Justin Hartley is playing a mediocre narcissist actor with deluded artistic pretensions. And the show keeps rewarding him. The off-Broadway show he stars in wins the attention of Ron Howard who casts him as the lead in his new movie. Later in this series, he’ll co-star in a project with Sylvester Stallone." and "Beyond abhorring certain members of the family, I feel the show works too hard in its attempts to emotionally pummel the viewer into submission."

Do they love me? I don't speak British.

Per Variety

Less crucially, Jon’s relationship with his friends feels off, as focused as it is on one person. Glancing attention is paid to the other three friends’ suffering, including the suicide attempt of Romany Malco’s Rome—interrupted by the news of Jon’s death. Yet the writers found a way to keep Jon at the center of the pilot’s action even after he left the stage: We’re shown old camera-phone footage of the four friends, in which Jon delivers soliloquies about the meaning of friendship. In a toast, he explains that it is “the person that you trust with your wallet and your keys and your wife and your kids… it’s being able to have the hard conversations and being willing to listen. It’s a million little things.”

gawd r214...Yeah, thanks for spelling it out for us, ABC, we had no idea what the intricacies of close friendship involve and the many trusts you might place in your close friends.

Even with such a diverse cast, it still manages to be the whitest new show of the fall.

Didn't this show address close friendships? But it didn't have a suicide character or an Asian couple. This was pretty highly rated and it still got cancelled, so good luck.

ABC doesn't realize that even the most basic frau in the frauland cannot spend *that* much time watching network TV: "This is Us", HGTV shows, church zumba classes, girls' nights out at The Cheesecake Factory, book clubs with boxed white wine, an occasional tedious thing that involves Makaynzee, Jaydahan and DH...

R189 No need to think. He was. Hot. I still love him, even if he's a chubby now,

Oh, God, and they're spelling the suicide guy's name as "Jon." Because "John" just wouldn't be hip enough.

It looks like Thirtysomething

It does r221! Good call. It also looks like the Big Chill.

People forget how funny the writing was on "thirtysomething" -- and the cast has chops too. This looks ridiculously earnest. Virtue signaling before it's even aired.

Yeah I loved "thirtysomething" r223, if nothing else, it was pretty fresh for it's time. That was during the all cop shows or medical things as the tv dramas. It was purely self indulgent, navel gazing and it didn't pretend to be anything else. This has now been done to death and it's not fresh anymore.

Normally, I wouldn't give two shits about this show but I like Mindy Cohn and I really like David Giuntoli. Who wouldn't want David Giuntoli to succeed. Look at him... He's one of those cornfed Wisconsin boys who look like Don Draper and have huge cocks.

Wait, I thought the Mindy thing was a joke, someone just photoshopped her picture into that group shot.

R226 Hussssh.

Shit sorry r226, I just don't want to be tricked into watching this shit, that salad scene will grate on a big screen.

I loved thirtysomething, but I can’t even sit through the COMMERCIALS for this mess.

When I heard “There has to be a reason this happened. There’s a reason for everything,” I wanted to throw up.

I hope it’s gone in 2 weeks.

Maybe it will be laughably bad, think "Cop Rock" with non-singing hipsters!

[quote] I just watched the trailer, but I didn’t see Mindy Cohn in it. Who is she playing?

She isn't in the first episode if she actually appears on the show.

For the last time, Mindy Cohn is NOT going to be on this show. Somebody on this thread photoshopped her into a cast picture, and now everyone thinks she's in it. It was a joke, folks.

I've liked Allison Miller since Kings. She's a nice girl but a so so actress. She used to run a vegan bakery in Silverlake. Don't know if it's still open.

I just saw an interview with Ron Livingston where he talked about this stupid show. He said - are you ready for this - "it's the most important work I've done in my career." Oh, Christ.

I LOVE that there’s a thread on DL for this!

I’ve been hating previews (and ABC has been *aggressively* pushing this show just about every 5 minutes) for what seems like months now!

I hate the lines from the previews, the music, everything.

It was so fun to basically read my every thought about this show already written out here on the datalounge (and written much better than I could have written it!)

It looks (from the very first time I saw a preview for it) depressing, boring, forced, phony as hell, beyond cliched, and—what *so many* of you have been saying—like a rip-off or reboot of “The Big Chill” and “Thirtysomething” (with some “13 Reasons Why”, “This Is Us”, and a few other shows thrown in for good measure).

I cannot remember the last time the ads and premise for a show have annoyed me so much. I actually change or mute ABC when this comes on.

Oh my god r234, that sums up why I hate actors so much. Also, "Office Space" is the most important thing he's ever done, he needs to accept that. That quote won't age well when this shit show is cancelled asap.

Looks like one of the smug West Coast shows where everyone is sensitive and respective to everything and everyone- must be exhausting! They all drive expensive but environmentally friendly cars or something retro like an old mustang or pickup truck to keep it cool. One character will do something creative like write children's book and another will have 'sold out' and be more successful but have issues with the work- just not sure anymore.

Where is the ugly friend and, as someone pointed out earlier, the gay friends that EVERYONE adores???

The trailer reveals that Guintoli's character is cheating on his wife. With whom?

r238, Laverne Cox.

From the first commercial...I’ve said to myself...This is a MUST MISS!

The shot of the upscale frauen clinking wine glasses in honor of their dead friend also gives me hives. Thanks for this thread for allowing me to vent because these promos actually make me groan.

(Everyone looks mildly annoyed and inconvenienced as they celebrate the dead guy's life. Notice?)

As we should be r242, we had to take time off work for this selfish fuck's funeral and now that's he's gone we will only have our memories to see his trite life observations.

If they had Giuntoli nude and uncensored in every scene, I would watch this.

Dave's Road Rules preparation for a strip show at a gay club starts around 1:30 with the actual show at 4:30. Video is shitty in quality and David has no meat on his bones unlike his recent photos.

Giuntoli is the salad guy? He looks and acts just like Charlie Day in that trailer.

Pretty sure Dave is the clean shaven one tucked to one side (the alkie). Beard guy was on "Psyche" and maybe is better suited at comedy.

R241 And they're wearing pashminas whilst they clink their wine glasses by the fire pit. Barf-o-rama.

R234 What Ron is trying to say is, "Shhhh. Quiet, please. Artiste at work."

I doubt Ron would like this thread very much if he knew about it.

We're shitting all over his "art".

Hee hee

R249 God, I hope someone reading this thread knows one of the actors from this show and tells them about it.

Set your alerts for Wednesday, September 26th 10|9c so you don't miss it.

Is this a spin-off of Grimm?

[quote]Set your alerts for Wednesday, September 26th 10|9c

I'll be watching Chicago Whatever. They're running all three on Wednesdays now. I hope they keep to three new episodes each Wednesday they're on, and not two one week, one the next, and so forth.

Yeah, called "Sisters Grimm".

That's so weird I was going to come to the bottom of the thread and comment about Grimm but it seems ya'll beat me.

Was Grace Kim added last minute? Of the dozens of commercials they run every hour, she is not seen once. All 7 people are focused on except her.

Did she replace Mindy Cohn r256?

There is nothing on Mindy's IMDB page about this. So I don't know if she's in it or not. I would think she would be too old unless she was playing someone older sister or something.

R258 She is NOT in the show! Someone on this thread made a joke about her being added to the cast and photoshopped her picture into the cast photo. Repeat - MINDY COHN IS NOT IN THIS SHOW.

She remains unemployed as always.

Can't wait to see Mindy Cohn!

They're hazel, R113, and they're magnificent!

God only knows what R259 is prattling on about. Mindy Cohn is clearly in one of the publicity stills released for the show.

It wouldn't be a "thirtysomething" reboot without Mindy!

So which actor is playing a werewolf?

I heard that Nancy McKeon and Lisa Whelchel will be appearing as a no nonsense, yet compassionate lesbian couple. They're on the outside of the immediate friend group, but they're there when they're needed. There was a promo of it earlier today. Kim Fields was roller skating outside their home while they were spreading mulch in their yard.

I think Giuntoli's character should be having an affair with his Grimm co-star Silas Weir Mitchell.

Ugh that guy on the left in r266 is gross. That whole affectation with the Mr. Rogers' sweater and the mustache and greased hair...is he trying to look like a pedo?

Wow, this chick is very excited for this to start! " It’s the kind of show that makes you realize you should be living your life at the fullest while you can. It’s the kind of show that makes your heart jumps a little, your eyes cry a little… Ultimately, it gives you a million different feelings."

A Million Little Things could be summed up as “This Is Us with friends”, though it would be unfair to compare them too much. They come from the same place -a little something called heart- and they march to the beat of the same drum but they’re different enough so there’s a place for both in our lives. AMLT is about the power of friendship, the power of belonging to a group in a world where it’s easy to get lonely, to be left alone. People are not talking anymore, they don’t even look at each other on the bus, on the train, on the streets… Those seven realize they need to take care of each other a little bit better, tighter. They simply need to change, which is also the name of the song from Tracy Chapman we’re supposed to hear in the pilot if they got the rights for it.

I thought about this thread today when I was on the Upper West Side and Timothy Busfield, former star of "thirtysomething," walked right past me. Very white-haired now but still looks good.

R268 Of course, the mug cradling fraus will love it. They can talk about the latest episodes with their girlfriends at Starbucks after they put on their Lululemons and walk to the corner.

Too bad Charlotte Rae isn't here to see Mindy Cohn's comeback

I came upon this thread by accident. Never saw the promos and if I did, I'd never see such a show. But now I will see it cause this thread is kiling me and I want to hate watch it with you all. The Mindy Cohn hijinks and the running in the dark to relieve stress dammit! post etc. Such funny bitches. I want to live with some of you people.

I downloaded and saved that Mindy picture, and you know what? It's way better than the actual picture. Mindy in a purple kimono is just what this shitshow needs!

Since it looks like this will be a mini Facts of Life reunion with Mindy Cohn and the ghost/corpse of Charlotte Rae, I was going to suggest bringing in Cloris Leachman via hologram, when, to my surprise, I discovered she is both still alive at 92 and actively filming.

[quote]I saw a plot description for this series that says that Ron's character is 35. 35??? In what universe does Ron Livingston pass for 35???

It's funny, because they Photoshopped the shit out of his face for the poster, but he looks really old in the trailer.

Maybe he killed himself because he had Progeria's disease?

LOL R277. Anyone remember the Daphne Zuniga thread? This reminds me of that- the level of hilariousness.

Ron Livingstone killed himself because he has PTSD which started after filming 'Band of Brothers' and he was the promised break out star, yet Damien Lewis at least got to make his name in 'Homeland' whilst Ronnie has gotten zero good roles, and now he has to make this '30ThisIsUs' soft knock off.

He was in "Townies", at least he'll always have that.

So is Mindy's character going to be a werewolf?

r279, you are hopelessly confused.

Wait, so Mindy Cohn is the quirky friend in the group? Did they add her after the pilot because she doesn't appear in the promo? I hope she wears the kimono when she appears in the second episode.

I think some times they retool after the initial pilot if shot. Unless they do reshoots, I would assume that Mindy must show up in episode 2. But there is still no information about the character she is playing, which is odd.

Do you think the salad guy feels pretty confident about that scene? Like, "I fucking knocked that out of the park and low key was able to show my comedic chops!" That scene bugs me the most. I wonder if he's heard anything about it from friends after that trailer. If that were my friend, I would say something. Also, Livingston saying it's the most important work he's ever done...wow, it's like these people have no friends to tell them to knock it off.

The salad scene is so bad because, like apparently everything else on this sad show, it's been done exactly that way a million times. The doctor distracted by a phone call in the middle of a diagnosis (as if).

This is why we have to appreciate Larry David and Alexander Payne and Cameron Crowe the 'Tangerine" guy and any of the true craftsmen who turn Left when we think they are going to turn Right. And avoid the cliches -- or spin on them. They are a dying breed.

I really hope DL is original and doesn't start calling A Million Little Things "The Mindy Cohn Programme"

Mindy Cohn shows up right after the promo.

[quote]I think some times they retool after the initial pilot if shot. Unless they do reshoots, I would assume that Mindy must show up in episode 2. But there is still no information about the character she is playing, which is odd.

Maybe she's the secret character that Road Rules Dave was having an affair with? That would be hot.

Gotta love gay people mocking a show for diversity, something gay people have benefited from.

If you have to hate on the show, hate it for looking like a bad ripoff of This Is Us, not because they dared to cast some non-white people.

I could barely recognize Mindy in the scenes I saw(Right after the promo) She must have lost a shit ton of weight.

"Looks like one of the smug West Coast shows where everyone is sensitive and respective to everything and everyone- must be exhausting! They all drive expensive but environmentally friendly cars or something retro like an old mustang or pickup truck to keep it cool. One character will do something creative like write children's book and another will have 'sold out' and be more successful but have issues with the work- just not sure anymore."

I guess a Republican like you would prefer a show that takes place in a trailer park an Alabama, where they all hate black people, Mexicans, atheists, Muslims, and gays.

Whoa, it looks like Ron Livingston at r292 has found this thread!

R292 It's definitely not Mindy Cohn. She's well liked on the DL, this thread has taught us.

Wait, so Mindy's character is going to hunt the monsters?

R292 HAS to be a woman.

So if this is more of an ensemble show like Downton Abbey, I hope they won't make Mindy play a maid. That would be so beneath her.

Ahem r297.

This is what was used in the original pitch for diversity, but they didn't think middle America was ready for it, so it was yanked. Only a few people saw it.

In a really early copy, Tootie was shown cumming hard on her roller skates. It was really weird.

Just in! It's been cancelled already!

If only. We still have weeks of these promos to endure.

When it is cancelled, it won't be for ONE reason but rather a million little things...

They just added Kirstie Alley to the cast. She'll be playing a morbidly obese woman who gets permanently wedged into a doorway while transitioning into a gay man. Danny Trejo will be brought in mid-season to play Alley's abusive case worker/boyfriend.

You leave Trejo out of this mess, r303!

This is some of what happens after the funeral. It's a weirdly progressive show.

I see what you did there r302.

Mindy Cohen and Sylvester are finally getting the attention they deserve. I can't wait.

The soundtrack is already trending on iTunes.

Oh FFS, Circle of Life from the Lion King? Jesus, I didn't think anything could make me hate this show more. Like they're really trying to hit on every "feels" button they can. Fuck them and fuck r292 for sticking up for this dreck. Blergh.

I hope all my beautiful, ethnically diverse friends come together to mourn my passing.

And attribute idiotic, trite sayings to you? "John always said "don't play ball in the house!" let's remember that and get out there and live!"

The first review on metacritic is from Variety, it's lukewarm at best.

Commenter J. Mungo was triggered! I don't understand how he keeps hearing it? I guess they're playing the commercial a lot? J. should invest in netflix. "J Mungo says: SEPTEMBER 14, 2018 AT 11:54 AM How many times will this pilot be aired. John killed himself, john killed himself, John killed himself, John killed himself. That’s all I hear as I try to relax at the end of my day. Every time I hear it I go right back to the moment I got the phone call that my father killed himself. It brings me instant anxiety. I read that they hoped that they weren’t glamorizing a public health concern – they failed. John killed himself – remove it"

Who is the fat guy between Grimm and the Weeds guy?

That's Cancer Salad r314. He's in the trailer having a quirky moment with his doctor.

I got trapped in an elevator and I didn't even make an acquaintance

R292 is a mug-cradling, Lululemon-wearing frau.

R312 Yep. That review pretty much says what this thread says.

I'm excited that they're making a TV series based on a song by the Police. Has this ever been done before? And do you think Sting will make a cameo appearance? Maybe in a nightclub scene? Or in a dream sequence perhaps?

Love R117. Taken straight from Rowsdower! Bacony stink 😂

Ron Silver has to be pushing 60. The CGI budget must be astronomical to make him look anywhere near mid-30s. I guess they learned a thing or two from working with his SATC love interest SJP.

"r292 is a mug-cradling, Lululemon-wearing frau."

Nope, just a liberal who hates knuckle-draggers like you. Btw, most "fraus" tend to be conservative, so you should be able to relate to them!

But Mindy's playing a thirtysomething. Isn't she?

I've had that experience with a doctor chit-chatting - while my father sat there waiting for his cancer diagnosis. Except he was chit-chatting with me.

^ I'd commented on a picture on the wall of his office and he was on a roll.

Ron SIlver is dead r321, Ron LIVINGSTON is the one who is only pretending to be dead on this P.O.S. show.

Does that clear it up for you?

[quote]But Mindy's playing a thirtysomething. Isn't she?

I still don't understand why she doesn't appear in the promo unless it's a secret reveal. Maybe Ron faked his death so he could come back as Mindy? They did that on Ugly Betty after all.

I think our mistake is assuming Mindy's playing a woman. Our social conditioning sucks, right? So maybe she already appears in the promo. I mean, maybe she's the rude doctor? She has the range to pull something like this off. People underestimate Mindy. People fucking suck. Argggghhh!!!

I agree OP, it looks like shit.

Loving this thread. Recognizing my fave posters. We should all meet at my house for Thanksgiving this year

She looks younger than Ron Livingston. If Ron can play mid-30s, so can Mindy.

I'm really looking forward to it. Hollywood can be so derivative. But this looks fresh. I don't think a sweep of all the major Emmy categories is out of the question next year. It looks that. fucking. good.

Here's the thing with PC stunt casting..it smacks of charity. It's actually insulting to POC.

Someone mentioned this in Mary Poppins Returns. Casting a PR with a cockney accent they said. Might as well say "Okay we'll invite you to the party just to shut you up". Oddly I didn't mind a black woman playing Mother Superior in that live stage production of Sound of Music years ago. Her performance was flawless.

It was 2016 but i just saw The Blair Witch with this stunt casting. Found myself riffing the whole thing with commentary. Latin, black and pasty caucasians. Ugh. No token asians. Just feel like you're getting played by SJWs.

Well they gave Mindy Asian eyes. Is that makeup? Or is she transitioning? Don't get me wrong, she can play anything. She has the range. I just don't want them to force her into a stereotype. Like make her a Chinese laundress or something. Just let her new Chinese-ness speak for itself. Don't draw attention to her racial transitioning. Just let her BE.

racial transitioning? r334 if you just coined that term I am going to find you and kill you.

My problem with casting non white actors in roles that were clearly written for white characters is that the writers never do the fucking homework. I keep harping on Riverdale making Veronica Lodge and her family Hispanic with the fucking surname Lodge. No explanation is given, no background details, It's just let's turn the whitest family in comics into an Hispanic family. I don't give two shits about interracial couples in commercials or the one black and the one Asian friend in all the big pharma commercials. I've even learned to accept multiracial gangs on TV.

It is obvious that this show played let's check off the boxes. There is nothing organic about this situation. Ugh.

R335 - It's actually a real thing. The TV network wanted to keep it under wraps until the premiere of the show. But Mindy got really drunk at a post-Emmys party last night. And while an Uber driver was taking her home, Mindy mooned a group of people at a bus stop. They only got pictures of her ass, but the Uber driver's been posting comments about Mindy on Reddit. So her transitioning is pretty much out of the bag at this point.

R322 is DEFINITELY a mug-cradling, Lululemon-wearing frau.

I love this show already. I haven't seen it, but I just know it's good.

R339 - I know, right? I'm going to watch the pilot with my book club. We are TOO EXCITED! : )

This is a show I would NEVER even bother trying to watch, and yet this thread is a must read....

R336, like Madmen. Betty is mainline. Not weight but drink. Weiner did nail Megan's parents though.

FOR THE LAST TIME, Mindy play the bitch mommy blogger who accuses Ron of molesting the children, which drives him to suicide.

This series has "prestige" written all over it. Like Six Feet Under, but more diverse, more...today.

R334 Hate to break it to you but they do make Mindy a Chinese laundress. Episode 3. It's a hip laundromat/cleaners so not too cliche but still... She's married to a Muslim(who owns a hip liquor store) so the writers are at least trying.

R345 - As long as they give Mindy a few fresh quirks, I suppose I'm fine with it. I read in the Hollywood Reporter that she has a mid-season story arc involving Dissociative Identity Disorder. And one of her alter personalities is a Polish immigrant who works as a supermarket produce manager. So when she wakes up from her blackouts, she's slumped over crates of turnips in the backroom. Which, ironically, reveals clues to the true nature of the black friend's death. At that point, I think the series basically turns into a whodunnit. But it all hinges on Mindy finding more clues during her blackouts. So it's almost like you WANT her to go nuts, just so she can find the murderer! It's pretty sophisticated stuff.

This is the comeback Mindy fans have been waiting for. I smell Best Supporting Actress. Move over, Metz, you mess, there's a new chubby sheriff in town.

Based on all this buzz, Mindy's already being offered a reality show in Beijing. It's like Big Brother, but smaller, more bite-size. I just hope they don't edit it to make Mindy look like the bitch. Because we all know Mindy is so not a bitch.

Another review that the mug-cradling, Lululemon-sporting fraus aren't gonna like:

After "the Neighborhood" is cancelled (by Feb sweeps) maybe Cedric the Entertainer can move in next door to be the wacky neighbor with the sassy advice on life lessons?

If the ratings are sagging, they can always replace Ron Livingston with Heather Locklear in S2.

R351 And she'll still be representing Glorious Gowns. Or is it Gloria's Gowns?

Mindy is playing "Selma" the owner of the local bar where they all hang out. She dispenses wise cracks and sage advice with a little bit of love.

So 35 yr old Livingston is in it a lot: "He demands the floor at hockey games to give meandering, trite toasts about how friendship is “a million little things,” things like talking about stuff and helping one another. Even after his death, he’s omnipresent in the show, thanks to frequent flashbacks to times when he treated his friends to entire pearl strings of his wisdom. In these scenes, his demeanor with them is a blend of best friend, father and religious leader. " Jesus.

^^^ Well, part of the backstory on that is, he was shot in the head with a pellet gun. as a kid. While it didn't do any serious damage, it did effect a part of his brain that causes a person to give random and uncalled for speeches. His friends were pretty tolerant of this his quirk, but then a year or two ago he found a Mr. Microphone at a thrift store. And let's just say the post above that mentions Mindy's blackouts, and this turning into a who done is very true.

I read another review where they were talking about the trapped in the elevator plot device. The reviewer said if he was trapped in an elevator with some kind of "wise sage" like John Livingston, he'd run as fast as he could in the opposite direction once the doors opened up.

[quote]This series has "prestige" written all over it. Like Six Feet Under, but more diverse, more...today.

like Alan Ball's recent masterpiece

R345 That sounds hella intense. As a blackout drunk I'm glad that the writers are going to portray us in a flattering light FOR ONCE. Mindy has the chops so it's going to be a wild ride. She's a blackout eater so she'll likely tap into that.

R348 please stop spreading fake news. Mindy's season will be set in Hong Kong.

Quite frankly, I can't think of anyone capable of playing "pompous asshole" more than Ron Livingston, so this show is guaranteed to be insufferable. Not even the temptation of watching David Guintoli lounge around shirtless in bed could make me watch this dreck.

Mindy is playing a blue collar hairdresser named Ada. Ada works at the local Wash & Set where all the gals go to get their surburban mom hair style. Ada has a hot in the pants teen daughter named Rachel who wants to move to Hollywood and be a reality star, but gets a look at Dave Giuntoli’s character and decides she wants him all for herself.

R360 - I heard that too, but it's fake news. I just learned the truth on Reddit. Mindy's character's name will be Konmari. And get this...her character has a limp. And the limp activist groups are now upset that they didn't cast an actor with a natural limp. Mindy hasn't responded to the furor over accusations of hobble-appropriation. And now word is that Mindy is out of the show because producers feel pressured to re-cast the role with an actor who naturally shuffles about.

R361 close but no cigar. The name is Kon Mari. Two words.

R362 - I know, right? But producers were concerned Mindy would be confused with that petite woman with the decluttering method (they look very similar to begin with), so they made it one word.

You guys are all full of shit. The truth is, Mindy was slated to be on the show but when she discovered she wasn't making as much per episode as Ron Livingston, she bolted. The producers had laughingly offered her the same amount as Dave Guintoli was making, but you don't do that to a star of Mindy's caliber. It's the show's loss. I predict a 6 episode run and then cancellation.

R363 Could be. Last I heard it was Kon Mari Kleinhoff Ahmed( Muslim hubby) I'll check in with my sources and get back to ya'll.

Mindy's feeling pretty raw right now. She's bummed about the Limb Privilege allegations. Which is crazy considering that she does have bursitis in her left knee. And she also has a cousin who walks with a slight hesitation. So it's not as if she hasn't already dipped her toe in these waters. I'm really upset that producers caved in to the SJW hysteria and replaced her. It fucking sucks.

She needs to be more vocal about her bursitis, R366. She also hasn't publicly discussed her cousin's issue. She's an ally for sure. Let's hope she wises up and is allowed back on the show ASAP.

R367 - Me too. I'm literally losing sleep over this. Hollywood is so fucked up.

I, for one, am going to watch it. Fuck you all. Counting the Emmys.

If I was trapped in an elevator and some guy began spouting life lessons I'd thrown him down the shoot! I'd rather him pass wind.

Now they've added a clip of Token Black Friend breaking down on the spoirtscam in the arena. More puke to keep me away from this pile of goo.

Is Cancer Salad the single worst actor in the world? Watch him when he's "comforting" the black guy crying at the stadium. Head up to catch the light and make sure the scene is about him yet again. While Road Rules Dave at least TRIES to connect from two seats down.

It looks horrible. I'm sure it will be a hit

The midsession reveal? He really leapt off the balcony to catch his wallet.

[quote]frequent flashbacks to times when he treated his friends to entire pearl strings of his wisdom

Wait, so there is a bukkake element to this show? Does Mindy know what she signed on for?

I'm not into no werewolf shit, so I won't be watchin' it. NUFF SAID!

So no gay characters?

R377 The character Mindy plays is a gender liquid lesbian

I just want you all to know that I am now going to watch this piece of shit show because of this thread. And I don't want to because I already have too much TV on my DVR. I suspect this thread was started by the ABC publicity department.

R379 Wrong! I started this thread, because it's critical that everyone watch me do the most important work of my life!

The Ron Livingston Menopause Project.

To promote the show, ABC is partnering with Starbucks to offer a special "cancer salad."

"So delicious, it hurts...a million little things."

Not even the thought of Dave Guintoli's heaving furry pecs could make me watch this shit fest, Mindy or no.

There's an awful new promo airing for the show where Cancer Salad Guy is dropping off his millennial date, and she says, "Thanks. I give this date 5 stars" Cancer Salad says, "I give it 4.2 stars." She says, "Only 4.2? Wanna come in?" Cancer Salad says, "5 stars."

Ugh.

I just saw that, [R384]! They just *had* to throw in a ridesharing subplot, because the show just wasn’t “topical” enough already!🙄

Maybe they’ll have the Jon character kill himself because he was being bullied on Facebook and Twitter and then one of his “best friends” will attempt to “cope” with the grief of his loss by hooking up with tons of random strangers on the Tinder account they just opened after being inspired by a flashback of one of Jon’s shitty speeches about “talking chances” and “living life to the fullest”...

R385 Oh, God, was that what the promo was all about? Cancer Salad is an Uber driver who meets his girlfriend after giving her a ride?! Oh, Christ.

Now I'm hearing that Harry Hamlin has been cast as a closeted high school teacher who falls into a deep funk after his partner is deported to Guatemala. The Hollywood Reporter hinted at a plot twist involving Hamlin falling in love with an immigration attorney who happens to be a dwarf. The dwarf attorney (named Aladdin Cicero) will be played by Peter Dinklage during a hiatus from Game of Thrones. And Dinklage will be doing a full-frontal nude scene with Hamlin.

The show looks worse and worse with every preview. Fire someone over it!

Ha, I love that we call that guy "Cancer Salad". Ron must be seething about this as he cleared off his shelf for an Emmy as soon as he read the script. Cancer Salad is so fucking smug looking, look at him with that facial hair and faux hawk! .

Also, how fucking serious about suicide was Romany Malco if he stopped to take a call? Jesus.

Why is everyone in this friend group committing suicide?

Not for any one reason r391, it's a million little things.

r351, wins. Best comment yet.

Good news OP, critics think it's a stinker and won't be around long.

Oh my god, Cancer Salad whispering to the widow, "you are stronger than any of us!" just fucking sends me! Also, I notice he called to tell someone about the suicide from the exam table, so I guess it's okay for HIM to make personal calls but not the doctor?

Stop calling him Cancer Salad. His name is Gary! And his eyes are hazel.

He should have whispered to her, "your husband was a selfish asshole, I hope you don't get fucked on his life insurance!"

[quote]Now I'm hearing that Harry Hamlin has been cast as a closeted high school teacher who falls into a deep funk after his partner is deported to Guatemala. The Hollywood Reporter hinted at a plot twist involving Hamlin falling in love with an immigration attorney who happens to be a dwarf. The dwarf attorney (named Aladdin Cicero) will be played by Peter Dinklage during a hiatus from Game of Thrones. And Dinklage will be doing a full-frontal nude scene with Hamlin.

Good God, I hope you're kidding.

Of course he was, R398. The teacher role is going to Kim Fields with Jessica Lange playing the role of the dwarf. The full frontal nudity part remains true.

I'll be watching GOD FRIENDED ME.

Remember this all happened because some asshole showrunner said he'd "do lunch" with an old friend who killed himself before the selfish asshole could set a date for lunch. So we have him to thank for this thread. I'm sure that gives his loved ones a lot of comfort. Especially when douchebag says that at least something good came to his life out of the bad incident. groan....

Well this should ward off anymore Hollywood suicides! They'll say, "don't do it, Todd! remember when Jim killed himself and they made that shitty show? Now his life is mocked everyday and Ron Livingston curses his name, you don't want to leave a legacy like that!"

I still can't get past the stupid premise that they all became friends because they were stuck in an elevator together. If the writers were trying to find an original premise to justify how such an ethnically and socioeconomically diverse group of people would somehow become friends, why didn't they just go with something somewhat believable, like they met at jury duty?

So I'm assuming Cancer Salad will be hiding his cancer from his friends and his new Uber-found girlfriend in the show? Oh, the drama.

I was just gonna say that jury duty thing r403! I think that it's supposed to be a dramatic stuck elevator and they said, "if we ever get out of this then we're getting season tickets!" but couldn't they have done that on a plane crash? That would be so much more dramatic!

The elevator thing is especially unbelievable given that this takes place in Boston, home to some of the unfriendliest people on the planet

I hope his cancer does come back just so the chemo will make him lose that disgusting facial hair. Expect many overwrought conversations with Livingston's grave, "damn it, Jon, you promised you'd be here to help me fight this, I don't know if I can do it without you! If you couldn't live with your perfect life, how can I live with cancer?"

I counted and it's 409,063 little things. As for the met in the elevator... I hooked up with my squad via elevator so that's legit.

Cancer salad is the best trend of Fall 2018 in American TV

Working at Initech finally got to him.

I'm not watching that dreck...but will follow here.

I'd hate watch this, but I'm done with ABC after they cancelled The Chew. That whole station is full of wickedness. Fuck them al!!!

R408 "My squad?"

R410 "Office Space" will always be Ron Livingston's most important work.

Wow. I haven't thought about Ron Livingston in so long that I didn't realize Little Mary Suicide was the then cute guy from Office Space.

I beg to differ, R414.

So when does this POS premiere?

Tomorrow night (Wednesday).

Can we stay with one thread please? We'll move to that one, r418 when this one fills up. Just remind us of your thread. Is that okay?

Otherwise we'll have a million little threads.

Just saw another promo for it. This time there was a "Due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised" caution at the top of the screen at the end of the commercial.

I see what you did there r420.

R421 Just don't tell me they're gonna show Cancer Salad's ass.

So, Variety just reported that the naturally-limp-legged actress hired to replace Mindy [her name is Monica Kwan] slipped and broke her ankle on her first day of shooting. So, after heated negotiations with SAG-AFTRA, as well as the NHC [National Hobble Coalition], it looks like Mindy is back on the show. She isn't happy about the nudity, though, so she is in talks with producers to have Kwan body-double Mindy's topless scenes.

Mindy WILL be doing her own rear nude shots, though. According to Variety, one of Mindy's ex-personal assistants was overheard saying, "Sure, Mindy can be a bitch to work for, but you can bounce a rock off her ass. That shit is tight."

Producers are also adding a side lesbian love interest for Mindy's character. She's a dog walker with a violent criminal past. And her name is Sobe [pronounced like the beverage.]

Friendship: "It's holding a friend's hand when she loses her restaurant."

Riiight... don't you just hate when that happens.

This show just keeps on getting worse and worse.

Yeah r425, I've seen a million commercials for it now and it irritates me more each time. Cancer Salad always has a fucking smug look on his face and Livingston holding Romany Malco as he cries at a hockey game is just...I actually watched some "This is Us" this morning and that show is fucking trite and awful too. I am shocked that this shit seems to be what the public is clamoring for.

The public aka Frau Women. I don't know a guy on the planet who is watching "This Is Us" and I doubt any will tune in for Cancer Salad either. I sure as fuck won't.

Between "Grover Washington", "The wheels on the bus go round and round", "Your pants are making my baby cry", "Win win situation" and this piece of shit, I will save a lot of time with the TV off (or playing classic movies). Network TV sucks.

Jesus, this is in the yt comments of the trailer, : "Do we really know each other? This is a conversation long overdue. "How could I not know?" Sure we talk, but do we really listen?"

FFS, that's what they're going for sooooo hard but they're really smashing us with it and it's not subtle or clever.

I won't compare it to This Is Us until one of the male leads shows their ass.

r429 Done!

Starts tonight, ladies! Let's drag it to hell!

They just ruined my favorite The Killers song.

I got through 30 minutes.

What I guess the show will be: My friend killed himself, here's how it's really all about (insert still living character here).

We need more than that r433, did the cancer come back?

Chubby, bearded, comic relief guy is terrible.

Officially the worst actor working on TV these days and that is saying a lot. I want to reach into the TV and knock his teeth out.

I saw it and really liked it. Fresh concept with deeply felt issues. Strongest ensemble cast I've ever seen on a TV show.

Fresh concept? That a death reminds people to do some living? Okay.

R437 + Cancer Salad himself.

It's on my TIVO. I'll watch it tonight. It could get decadent. I bought a bottle of Chablis, a box of chocolates, and a box of tissues (just in case!)

*UPDATE - I'm on new meds, and I think my doctor fucked up the dosage. I feel like crap (and I already ate all the chocolates, plus the bottle of Chablis.) But the worst thing is my TIVO is all fucked up and I CAN'T WATCH THE GODDAMN SHOW! I was really looking forward to this. I NEEDED THIS. Jesus Christ, why does stuff like this always happen to me? Why do bad things happen to good people? That's what I want to know. (And I was REALLY looking forward to this! I just know it's going to be my favorite new show. Probably Top 5 of my all-time favorites.) Shit. My head is really spinning now.

Were you really looking forward to it r441? It's on Hulu and I bet it's on other stuff too. Are you a "This is Us" fan? Just wondering what makes people want to watch it.

R442 - I'm really into Sci-Fi/True Blood-style/Mystery-themed shows. So when I heard this had a werewolf sub-plot, I knew it would be something to sink my teeth into (no pun intended.) And the cast looks amazing. These actors have range. And I can fantasize about them. Like they're my friends. Like we might have disagreements, but eventually we'll all come around and forgive each other. It's like when you break a teacup, and then you glue the pieces back together, it's stronger where you repaired it. There's beauty in the fucked up places. That's what the Japanese say. And I'm really into other cultures. So I love the diversity the show seems to have. Plus I have a crush on one (maybe TWO!) of the actors already. I love getting into their lives and feelings. And it's weird, but it feels like they're getting into mine too. Like they care about me, even though they don't know me...YET! Oh, just teasing. I'm not like a stalker or anything. It's all make-believe, right? It's healthy to fantasize. It's safe if you don't take it too seriously. That's what my doctor tells me. (Too bad he can't keep my dosage straight. ASSHOLE! Just kidding.) Anyway, I've got a service order placed with the TIVO people. They don't mind coming out to look at my box. (Not THAT box! Sheesh!) So I can wait for TIVO. I am very patient. You have no idea.

Nice r443, I hope you like it and write a detailed recap for us.

R444 - I'm in a really dark place right now. Everything's so fucked up. Asshole doctor's fucking with me.

Then watch something funny r445! jesus, the frau kleenex pron won't help you! Watch a good comedy series.

R446 - I made it through the night. And I called in sick to work and I'm watching Three's Company reruns. God, that Mrs. Roper makes me laugh. And the TIVO guy is supposed to be here at Noon. But fat chance one of these service guys comes on time, right?! I hope it's the Brazilian guy. His English is shit. But the way he looks at me with those dark eyes--SWOON! But he better do a good job with the TIVO player because I seriously want to get started with the new series. LIke I said before, I know this will be a favorite. But I can't start posting about it on Reddit if I haven't seen any of it. (Can I?)

No one cares what color your fucking eyes are!

You haven't been paying attention! They are hazel and they're magnificent!!!

Did you know Jon is actually still ALIVE right now? He doesn't kill himself until October 12th. There is still time for his friends to prevent this! They have 3 weeks time. The widow says she wishes she had a time machine. Well, here's your chance, lady. Don't blow these 3 weeks and get your husband to change his mind about jumping off the balcony.

I hope the Asian wife goes crazy when she finds out about her husband's affair.

I have been seriously depressed for almost a week. Not Jon-I'ma jump off this balcony, or Rome-I'ma halfheartedly shove a handful of pills down my gob, more like I cbf with showering, getting out of bed or leaving my house depressed. Not glamorous enough to depict on TV. Anyway, this thread has done more to put a real smile on my face than my daily Cymbalta. If I was ever to be stuck in an elevator, it better be with some of you snarky cunts.

[quote] Tragic plotline - main character has killed himself

How original, bitches.

I got stuck in an elevator once, but I was alone so no lifelong friendships with suicidal, hockey fans were made.

I watched it. I hated everyone except the cylon, because she was barely in it. She was lucky. Was that werewolf guys real voice? He could fuck me, but then he must be put to death for acting in this abomination.

Sigh, at least I have the introduction of the Mindy character next episode.

Cancer Salad on latest preview: "WE are abandoned pets."

Seriously?! This show gets more and more vomit inducing by the week. Put it out of its misery.

Jesus, Cancer Salad, how much did Jon owe you? You met in a fucking elevator and went to some Bruins games. I bet Jon faked his death to be rid of those creeps.

Watch Cancer Salad hand the girl the paper towels at the dinner table (for her tears). Again, he can't even do that without being smug and not connecting with her on any level. He's just awful. Take away his SAG card now.

The show would be more interesting if these characters really were supposed to be portraying cylons.

I think some naked Dave Giuntoli would help.

Got the TIVO fixed and was all curled up on the sectional with Liam Charles (my cat, Silly!) and a glass of Chablis, but when I tried to press play on the remote control, I just couldn't do it. I SO WANT TO SEE THIS! But I feel triggered, even though I haven't watched a single second of it yet. It's like I know when I get into the lives of these people, it's going to be a VERY SPECIAL experience. And I'm afraid it's going to touch emotions I keep buried VERY DEEP. I so much want this catharsis (my therapist says I need to jump-start my progress--whatever the hell that means.) And it's not like I want to live my life through fictional characters (my therapist says I blur the line between fantasy and reality. What a bitch, right?) But I just know these people/characters/"actors" are going to be--now don't laugh at me--my friends. I see them, they see me, you know? And friendship is built on trust. So when I think, oh yeah, it's not just me watching, but what, about 20 million other people watching...makes me feel special--NOT! So it's just easier to not watch at all. But that sucks because I get lonely. I'm allowed, right? RIGHT?! All those years taking care of Mama. Emptying all those bedpans. Jesus Christ. When do I get some tender loving care? No offense to Liam Charles. He's a good listener and everything. But who's going to stare deep into MY soul? Who's gonna wash MY piss-stained sheets? Yeah, I want to watch this show. REALLY BAD. But who's gonna clean up my mess when the floodgates open? I'm fragile, really FUCKING FRAGILE! And if I start watching this new show, well...I'm all in. That's the kind of person I am.

"Your rants are making my baby cry!"

I really like the show, wish I had a group of friends.

And a team of writers to make us all so sensitive to each other's needs.

Fuck, the cylon gets fuck all screentime, lucky girl

The father/daughter recital scenes were so cringe worthy.

They lost 27 PERCENT of their audience between episode One and episode Two....that's ALOT of people who tuned out.....Cancellation is on the horizon!!

Jesus, I bet they did r467, and it's that fucking smarmy ^ face right there that did it. That creepy Charlie Day wannabe.

r467 he looks very pensive in that still. Right now is all about pensive. The glass of alcohol brings all of that home. Don't you get it? He's a serious, reflective man, and we should all be serious.

He's serious, the national media is serious. well we should all be depressed. You didn't have such a great childhood, let me tell you how you should suffer for all eternity, or at least let me tell you how to deal with it. oh, and then we'll put pharma ads throughout the show. But there's nothing wrong with you!

In all seriousness? I think Charlie Day as Cancer Salad would be amazing. He would breathe life into that charmless role.

I agree r470!. I almost feel bad for Ron "this is the most important work I've ever done" Livingston but then I look at that quote and I hate him all over again.

Deadline Story (oct 4)-------"It was a string of week-to-week declines at ABC too. The steepest, -0.3 or 27%, was for new drama A Million Little Things (0.8, 3.8 million) at 10 PM. "........................Shows that LOSE 27 PERCENT of its viewers are in big trouble...

I think they'll can it after this week. ABC has canned shows pretty quickly over the years. I remember when they canned that show My Generation after 1 or 2 episodes and then they canned that show where Ed Westwick and Erika Christensen played serial killers in the 80s after 2 or 3 episodes.

I think they'll give the show 6 episodes. Because anc really wanted this show to be a thing.

Not sure any actors alive could make the dreck they've been handed palatable, but damn, everyone in this crew is just so punchable, especially Cancer Salad.

I'm a fan of Ron Livingston, but I hope he's kicking himself for getting involved with this show.

Please please PLEASE let that lousy smarmy actor find this thread and see that he's been named Cancer Salad all this time.

We really should send this thread to ABC and start a "HIRE MINDY COHN!" campaign. The powers that be are so dumb and desperate, they probably would.

R476 Whoa there, buddy! This show happens to be the most important work of my life!

Have our Chardonnay suburbanite gals snapping up the floral skirts and cropped jean jackets displayed on the show? Because it seems like that might happen.

^ I meant to write "been" snapping up.

The final message Jon left for Eddie on his cell -from his cell-? Which ...in the promos he was wearing a white bluetooth earpiece (to make that Real Estate call for Regina's restaurant). Eddie took forever to listen to it -why? I have no idea. Couldn't be feelings of guilt or remorse or regret -because he clearly feels none of that (and can't even deliver his lines with a straight face. It's like he's about to break character at any moment and bust out laughing/ruining the take)...what a fucking letdown that final message was. "...LOVE EACH OTHER"

Eyes rolling around like a slot machine on that.

OH my gawd, are you serious r482? Christ, this has all the depth of a folk song.

Singalong with feeling: "What the world needs now is love sweet love..."

What irritates me is that it seems from what you all who have watched it said, that Jon is just being lauded for being such a wise sage and great guy. Not one of these people has been introspective enough to wonder why they find such comfort in the life advice of someone who couldn't fucking cut it and ended up offing himself? I imagine his kids and wife would be especially angry at first, maybe later they can be more wistful and understanding but for now I would think they would all be pissed. It's not like he died a hero's death or succumbed to some horrible disease.

I think enough gentlemen presenting enough hole could add needed depth to the proceedings.

"Yeah, like I'm going to listen to THIS guy."

Jon as a wise sage is a joke. From what has thusfar been revealed -he never really connected with his kids or wife in a meaningful way. It would seem he had spending/money management issues -and pitched a lot of cash towards a lot of undeserving adults (who betrayed him and took him for granted) he didn't get his affairs in order, he screwed his wife and family out of his life insurance policy...and it would seem he was a co-dependant Cuck King.

I watched 2 episodes of this show. I wanted to like it coz that actor from Grim is in it. But that friend's wife he's supposed to be in love with is so ugly and I just don't buy it.

Is it gone yet?

Even with a borderline silly premise (people becoming friends as a result of being trapped on an elevator together) at the center of the show, I think this still could've been something good or even great had it had better writers and producers behind it. With all of the comparisons to "thirtysomething," if only that show's producers, Ed Zwick and Marshall Herskovitz, were doing this, it could've been so much better. They do great drama those two.

But does Cancer Salad's smarminess ruin it r491? I've not read anything good about him on this, is he supposed to be so fucking annoying or is he supposed to be endearing? He really ruins me even wanting to watch it every time I see him smirking in a still.

Or reaching out and touching people without looking at them as he does in every single commercial (I won't watch the actual show).

Interestingly enough, I l checked the imdb reviews out of curiosity, and practically all of them cite Cancer Salad as the highlight of the show. Granted, it also has a 7.4 rating overall, so the positive reviews may be paid for.

See that's what I was wondering r494, do people like it because of or in spite of that fucking troll? Ugh, he's the worst but I guess it's the lowest common denominator type people they are pandering to. The type that think "This is Us" is a fucking revelation. So he is their impish, goofy guy? Gross. I don't want to know any of these people.

I am loving this show

Is it done yet? Not watching ABC until it's gone. Can't even take the commercials for it.