The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49)

Link to previous thread for reference:

Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41)1) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46) (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

Jesus, that photo. Brilliant threads, but Jesus that photo.

A Treason in the Sun

Good one!

"Treason Down The Road" would be a good one!

Have we used "The Age of Treason"?

R6: That was used on 2/6/18

When someone in the family, like Jr, gets indicted please consider:

Turn up the heat, it's TREASON in here!

R8 I'm pretty sure that person was making a joke about the previous incident with that title.

R7 it's on the list.

Rachel did a great job tying up Trump obstruction with the Russian mob.

And she is right. She can't pronounce Russian names for shit.

Re: D.C. meetup:

Let’s meet at Pitchers! I already know that one of you lives here at Union Row with me (and Manafort’s accountant and Mueller’s forensic accountant and whoever else might pop up by the time this thing is over).

ARE YOU SHITTIN ME R 423? To obtain kompromat on a political enemy? I'll bet he'll do ANYthing for it. Sure he will. This could be his big chance for glory should he find out Steele is half the fuckin fool whoremonger dipshit traitor as is Trump. ARE YOU SHITTIN ME? What's he going to do, prepare another fuckin MEMO and leak it to the media after Dear Leader's tweaks? ARE YOU SHITTIN ME!!

Slightly off-topic but could anybody tell me if the Civiqs polls/surveys that I get in my emails are legit?

Who does them? They asked for my name in the latest one and now I'm wondering. It was a lot of questions of whether I approve of shitler and his policies.

Is it just me or did all the candidates that are good for Repugs win their primaries tonight while the Dem candidates had "surprise" wins that will make it harder for them to win in November?

406. ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 08/27 **#3**

This closeted A list politician who serves from a state that also has a reality show has been hooking up with a teenage military recruit training in the politician's home state. [italic]Lindsey Graham (South Carolina) ("Southern Charm") [/italic]

Was Gillum's win in Florida another case of the sexism of the electorate in shitting on the female candidate? Kornacki was showing where Gillum overperformed and it was in the heavily Latino parts of the state. Machismo overcoming racism?

We're going to lose Florida now.

F&F the shit out of racist POS concern troll R19.

Go to hell, R20. If you haven't noticed, women have been winning everywhere this year. Now, suddenly in Florida, we get the gubernatorial candidate least likely to win in what is shaping up to be the year of the woman? And, sorry, but machismo is alive and well in Latino culture, especially in the Cuban parts of south Florida. So, fuck you, you ignorant piece of crap. Do you think I'm the only person saying that this just made it more difficult for us to win in Florida? You know nothing.

Nothing is decided about November. We must still canvass, phonebank and donate. We must still do the work.

How This Will End

Sooner or later, tyrants are always abandoned by their followers.

ELIOT A. COHEN

AUG 24, 2018

Paul Manafort trial in D.C. delayed a week, to Sept. 24, after defense request

The photo is so hot. It makes me want to have tongue exchange with him. Go Trump! Trump 2020!

The Gillum win is just so strange--he wasn't polling above 16 percent in any of the polls listed at realclearpolitics, but then he jumps by nearly 20 points? I wish him well, but we already know Bill Nelson has said the Russians were trying to interfere in the Florida midterms and Florida's election security leaves a lot to be desired.

What better way to ensure a Republican victory than by pushing in a candidate who is A) African-American in a southern state, B)has the FBI sniffing around already and C) skews left and is demanding impeachment in a state where Trump, himself, is very popular on the right?

I hope to hell Gillum just had great outreach in Latino communities and brought out young voters--that could mean something in November. Otherwise, I'm nervous--particularly for Bill Nelson's senate seat.

[quote]How This Will End Sooner or later, tyrants are always abandoned by their followers.

Hitler wasn't.

Ghouliani defends corruption in Romania. Why am I not surprised?

R23 : It is a tale. A tale about an idiot. Told by a philosopher. A thinker of deep thoughts. Full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing. Never underestimate crazy. Especially No-Dumpty Trumpty Clusterfuck A+ personality disorder who share the following traits:

1) Crazy;

2) Stupid;

3) Zombie Zeal.

They're nuttier than a bipolar Gemini methhead hooked on opiates.

Exactly, R17 and that is my concern. There are two kinds of people. There are those naive, genuinely misguided yahoos who think this is a great time to "redefine" the Democratic Party and "rebuild" it pushing it farther to the Left. Bernie refused the Democratic Party nomination in his home state this year because he wants to remain " pure." But he is leading the charge to "reform" the Democratic Party and he is supporting and pushing for candidates who are further Left and also want to see "reforms" in many cases.

One thing is sure. The BernieBots have "joined" the Democratic Party in their various states to push for "reforms." I'm not saying they don't need to reform, but I am saying this is a very high risk game they're playing at a very bad time. We need to win the general election. Period. That is the only question to ask. Who c an win in the general?

The second group of people are not misguided fools and yahoos. They are the Evil People who are determined to win ugly if the must and so they try to choose their opponent. They will cross over and vote for the person least likely to win a general election if they can, and they will do what ever it takes to make sure their opponent is not electable. This is not some new tactic. There are no "new" tactics. But the fusion between the misguided and the Evil may very well result in the Democrats losing the general election.

Interesting that I see no move on the part of more moderate Republicans to "reform" their party and push it closer to the mainstream.

To the litany in R533 in the last thread about things we don't want the next Democrat president to do let me add: ignore the local party and the grass roots. We need to grow the base and cultivate new people from communities. No more of the Clintons', Obama's, and other Democrats' focus on national races and drawing candidates from the ranks of the establishments! For every Chelsea Clinton testing out a candidacy I want to see ten former city council members from small rust belt cities and whatever who worked their way up the ranks by getting potholes filled and championing legislation that helped people in palpable ways. More Howard Deans, fewer Rahm Emanuels. Let the Democratic party grow organically, not from the top down.

So Jones is into trans porn, which the porn industry has marketed as 'she males'?

I’m sick of R32 slagging off the Clintons.

I see you.

R29, can you please be clearer?

I'm not "slagging off" the Clintons, R34 (never heard that expression before, btw), I'm specifically criticizing their and other Democrats' emphasizing national elections at the expense of local and state. It's how we got to a point where the majority of the voters is on the Democrats' side but the state legislatures and governors, as well as city councils and school boards, are a sea of red. A huge disaster that led to gerrymandering, voter suppression, and worse. Fuck off with your ad hominems.

This is rhetorical but what is wrong with Ghouliani?

Regarding the Florida upset: wasn't it just a week ago that a FL politician announced that state election systems were infiltrated?

R26, since when do Republicans care about candidates being investigated by the FBI? Did I miss something?

Deplorables aren’t going to vote for a Democrat anyway and reasonable people won’t be scared because of a rumored FBI investigation, especially since Trump, a known traitor and criminal, is under multiple investigations.

Howard Dean was friends with the Clintons. He didn't get along with Rahm but who did? I too am tired of the shit within the Democratic Party. Hillary won.. There was nothing wrong with her message. Nothing wrong with her policies. There is no need to move farther to the Right . And moving further to the Left at this time is suicidal.

All change is incremental. Sweeping changes that scare people are jarring, and labeling is what defeats a movement. Go back and read your history. Go look at the evolution of the McGovern campaign. And look at how Nixon profited from it. Nixon considered Muskie his toughest foe in 1972. So his campaign strategy was to destroy Muskie in the primaries. He wanted to run against McGovern. McGovern got the nomination.

The only person who could have pushed the Democratic Party further Left and made it work was Robert Kennedy. Oops. We don't have a charismatic leader like that. And there is a myth about Socialism vs. Capitalism. All economies are mixed economies. There is no such thing as a pure socialist or a pure capitalist economy. We are already a mixture.

The GOP creates this whole anti tax movement which is their way of getting you to act against your interests and starve our government out of existence. We ought to pay taxes. especially the wealthiest of us. Eisenhower agreed with that premise. But the iteration of the Republican Party since Reagan and Goldwater is Anti Tax and "smaller government" (Both government employees and deficits blew up under 12 years of Reagan/Bush. ) The reality is that the Republican Party stands for huge deficits and corporate welfare. That's not a smear, it's a reality. That's what Trump and the rest are achieving. Starving certain government programs while at the same time, blowing up deficits and borrowing too much from foreign banking interests. It's a huge national security risk.

I have to say there's something slightly racist about assuming that Gillum didn't win this nomination on his own and he "must have had help from the Russkies" because no way would that many white Floridians ever vote for a black man for Governor.

He beat all his white opponents, so clearly he had to have had "help."

Racist against whom, R41?

Racist against Gillum r42.

Oh, I thought you meant racist against white voters, assuming they're all racist lol.

R41, I think people are wondering how he came from nowhere to win the nomination.

Thank you, OP for the new thread!!!!

R41 I don't know much about the FL race, however, is it Racism? Are people expressing that as a Black man he shouldn't have been the nominee or that they're surprised because he's Black? The only thing I've read is that people are surprised because he wasn't even polling and somehow pulled off a major upset?

Yes, Graham probably would have been a stronger candidate in the general election against the Rethug. And the Dem got a plurality of the votes, not a majority. He is likely going to have a tough time of it come November.

I hope he wins.

I hope he wins too, because DeSantis is a Trump sycophant cunt.

There are a couple of factors in Florida that are weighing heavily in Gillum's win. First of all he got the black vote out massively AND he got the millennial vote out s well, because of the Parkland kids. Gillum has been endorsed by the Black Caucus and a few other groups as well. There is also a chance he could nominate Graham for his Lt Gov and shore up the centrist vote as well. Bernie was late to the party on this one, but the media is painting him as a Bernie Bro. He actually campaigned HEAVILY for Clinton in 2016.

The Fl primary was for registered Dem voters only! Indep didn't factor in as they will in Nov. Gillum won because his message was opposed to the centrist Pap from the other three candidates. As a result The centrist message/vote got diluted/divided among three candidates . Will those who voted centrist and those indep voters come out to support the Dem party OR will they stay home and let a Trump supporting candidate win?

r19, r21, why do you assume that Graham only lost because she's a woman, and Gillum only won because of "machismo males" in South Florida? Huh? Isn't that just as SEXIST a thing to say as you are claiming the Gillum voters are?

So what if it's supposedly "The Year of the Woman"? that doesn't mean that woman are going to win the nominations everywhere or that they are going to automatically win everywhere either, better get used to that idea now.

That's a very good question r52.

My candidate didn't win yesterday, but I will definitely be out voting and supporting Andrew Gillum.

We’ve had a number of “year of the women” for the last 30 years. I’m skeptical of the descriptor.

I’m almost 60, and I’ve had female bosses frequently since 1992. It really isn’t odd to me to have a female in an authority position. I know there are dinosaurs out there, though, who can’t accept such a thing. Are they still numerous and influential?

I'm sure this has probably been discussed but I had a thought re: the Senatrice and why she's been sucking Traitor's tit.

We all know that he's probably scared of what could be dumped out about him but what if he's not being blackmailed?

What if instead he's trying to get out in front of everything (and prevent himself from being blackmailed) by working over time to get on Traitor's good side, get Sessions fired, take over as Attorney General and therefore putting himself in position to hide / cover up / bury the scoop about his indiscretions?

R21, Graham has supported the NRA.

She also built a shopping mall on the edge of the Everglades.

She’s not qualified to be she democratic candidate for FL gov. Maybe republican but not dem.

I mean, if Sarah palin ran for anything, I would not vote for her because she’s a woman. That’s the value of education, research & critical thinking...everything that Trump & Putin want out of reach to the masses

They prefer to spoon feed propaganda to the asses ...via Faux News.

R55, since porn has become mainstream, young men are more sexist than older men. See BernieBros as an example.

They have an entirely different psychology. That’s the consequence of ubiquitous hard-core porn.

It wasn't racism that motivated me it was the fact that he seemed to come out of no where. I stand corrected by what R51 has explained. I've worked in a lot of statewide races, though never in Florida, and I always worry about the Republicans ability to fuck with people. They always have. They were doing it long before the Russians joined the party. Years ago the Russians were ideologically drawn to messing with the Democrats. But they couldn't get any traction. Obviously the Republican Party has an affinity with the Russians. From a strategy perspective it's Political Science 101 to try to pick your weakest opponent.

@jonathanvswan this morning: Don McGahn leaving the White House this fall after Kavanaugh SCOTUS vote, per unnamed sources

@realDonaldTrump this morning: Never believe anonymous sources

Trump not long after: Don McGahn is leaving the White House this fall after Kavanaugh vote

In Georgia, Kemp who is a Trump clone, and the Secretary of State is running against Tracy Abrams who could be the first Black woman elected governor anywhere. The ads have al ready started weeks ago, showing a person's feet, tap dancing while they smear Abrams. They also tried to close voting precincts in Black areas, etc. it's going to get a lot uglier too. These mad dogs will not be put down without a vicious fight.

Immigration is the bait. If they can get the Dems engaged in that discussion they can run their game. Dems need to keep talking about jobs and healthcare and if Immigration comes up show a photo of the little kids in cages.

R36 It's a British expression.

FBI to talk to Rep. Maxine Waters' opponent about tweeting of fake letter

Seems like a clear cut case of fraud. ^

Lindsey is too out front if she is trying to force Sessions out so she can grab the job for herself. It looks terribly self-serving, if true. Also, Lindsey will not escape scrutiny by the media as she always has done if she is nominated for AG. Lindsey probably could get the votes in the Senate, even from a few Dems after much debate, to get confirmed. But if she takes the job to destroy the Mueller investigation as Trump seeks, Lindsey will end up in American history as an even bigger enabler of the criminal enterprise of DJT-Russher.

Don McGahn leaving his job as White House counsel. Will he flip completely and dish all the dirt to Mueller?

I get the impression from things that I have read that McGahn may not like working for trump or trust him, but he supports his agenda. He is not looking to bring trump down.

McGahn’s departure is a clear signal that Trump is going to fire Sessions. McGahn stopped Trump from firing Sessions earlier, by threatening to resign in protest. McGahn also may have leaked info about a conversation with Trump in which Trump attempted to “correct” information McGahn had already supplied to Mueller.

I assume that McGahn has already cooperated fully with Mueller.

[quote]Lindsey will end up in American history as an even bigger enabler of the criminal enterprise of DJT-Russher.

I don't think he cares... none of them do as long as they're getting their payday.

Google maps now shows the Russell building as the McCain Senate Office Building. Sad!

Was this Google’s way of saying fuck you to Trump after he accused them of doing political filtering in their web searches?

Well well well, looks like the Trump acolite going against Gillum didn't waste any time in getting out the dog whistle voters. "Don't 'monkey' the vote up." Quote un quote

That Desantis guy is an embarrassment. Did you see his ridiculous suck up commercial to Trump? He can't win!! I will never visit that horrid shit-hole state again. Now carry on with the Treason thread girls!

DeSantis is a buffoon.

R36 it's the media that focuses on national elections. The RNC & the DNC and the various state parties focus on local. The problem is that the deep pockets of Republicans and their organizations like the NRA etc. make for a very uneven playing field.

Another Strong Night for Democrats

Primary season is almost over. It’s been a good one for people who want to hold Trump accountable.

By David Leonhardt

... All told, the primary season has been quite good for Democrats. They have largely avoided nominating weak candidates in winnable districts. They have kept their focus on economic issues, where the public tends to support Democratic positions (as opposed to social issues or impeachment, on which voters are more evenly split). Meanwhile, President Trump continued acting in ways that have kept his approval ratings in the low 40s.

Last night’s results continued the trend. Combined, Arizona and Florida have nine House districts that Democrats have a legitimate chance to flip, according to the Cook Political Report. Solid Democratic candidates won the primaries in all nine.

... None of this guarantees that Democrats will retake the House in November. The party will need to continue running a strong campaign and, in all likelihood, an unusually strong turnout for a midterm. But as primary season comes to a close, it has mostly helped the Democrats’ chances.

Arguably, the most complicated result for Democrats last night was the one that received the most attention. In the Florida governor's primary, Andrew Gillum — the mayor of Tallahassee, endorsed by Bernie Sanders — won a victory many progressives are celebrating. Yet some political analysts think a losing candidate — Gwen Graham, a former congresswoman — had a better chance of winning the general election this fall. Even if those analysts are right, though, I think the congressional races are more important than any governor’s race.

....

[links in article to prove back-up phrases/claims]

True Reformers for New York’s Senate

Inspiring challengers deserve voters’ support as they face business-as-usual lawmakers in the Sept. 13 primary.

By The Editorial Board

Beyond the chance to shake things up in Washington, this fall’s elections present voters with an opportunity to support reformers around the country who are out to change the political climate from the ground up.

In New York’s Democratic primary on Thursday, Sept. 13, strong, new candidates, unafraid to challenge the old guard, are tapping into voters’ anger at rogue Democrats who let Republicans keep control of the State Senate.

Over seven years, eight senators elected as Democrats gave their support to Republican leadership in return for committee assignments or other perks. They called themselves the Independent Democratic Conference, or I.D.C. Their self-serving acquiescence to Republican control of the Senate ensured inaction on election and criminal justice reforms, an overhaul of rent laws and a funding stream for the New York City subways.

Many of the challengers have said Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who for years did little to bring the wayward Democrats into the fold, has been an obstacle to genuine progress. Electing them, particularly if Democrats can win full control of both houses of the Legislature in November, would help focus the next governor — whoever that is — on the kind of actions New York needs.

It will not be easy to dislodge these incumbents, all of whom have scurried back to the Democratic Party, given their backing from reliable union and corporate supporters. That the primary elections are on a Thursday, not a Tuesday, will probably also benefit incumbents by keeping turnout low.

But the challengers in these State Senate races make a particularly strong case for ousting the powers that be on Sept. 13:

District 34, Bronx and Westchester County: The most important of the primary challenges is also one of the toughest. Undeterred, Alessandra Biaggi, a young lawyer and activist for women’s rights, has been working to take this district from Senator Jeffrey Klein, the leader of the I.D.C. and one of Albany’s craftiest politicians.

Mr. Klein and his group have plenty of money from the real estate industry and corporations. Ms. Biaggi, who has raised more than $260,000 in smaller donations, is working voter by voter to promote affordable housing and voting and ethics reforms. A campaign official for Hillary Clinton in 2016, she worked in Mr. Cuomo’s office until this year, most recently trying (and failing, in part, because of the perverse power-sharing arrangement in the State Senate) to get the Legislature to affirm the protections of Roe v. Wade in state law.

Alessandra Biaggi, who describes herself pointedly as “a real Democrat,” is the kind of smart, dedicated reformer so desperately needed in Albany. s the kind of smart, dedicated reformer so desperately needed in Albany.

District 13, Queens: Mayor Bill de Blasio endorsed Jessica Ramos, his former chief Latina spokeswoman, as “a tireless advocate for her community and a progressive champion for working families.” We agree.

As a skilled organizer, especially helping those with housing or immigration issues, Ms. Ramos easily outshines her opponent, Senator Jose Peralta. Mr. Peralta has been in the Legislature for nearly 16 years and was a member of Mr. Klein’s breakaway cabal. He has said he joined the Republican caucus to get more money for immigrants and schools in the district. Ms. Ramos will fight directly for Democratic causes like women’s rights and affordable housing in the city, not beg for leftovers from Republicans.

...

District 20, Brooklyn:

Zellnor Myrie, who is challenging Senator Jesse Hamilton, grew up in this district, encouraged by a hard-working single mother from Costa Rica. After graduating from Fordham University and Cornell Law School, Mr. Myrie helped New York’s City Council write a tenants’ bill of rights, then earned a place at one of the country’s top law firms, where he clocked 600 pro bono hours in a year. Mr. Myrie, often called “Z,” wants criminal justice reform, more money for schools in the district and better protections for immigrants. But his top priority is housing — affordable housing and more security to tenants on the edge of losing their homes. Mr. Hamilton, who joined the I.D.C. in 2016, has argued that he got more money for the district, and we have endorsed him in the past. But Mr. Myrie is the far more dynamic and passionate Democrat and the one this district needs.

This is a year to support those who can demonstrate their independence from Senate Republicans and demand more from the governor.

How’s my hair?

Bangs!!! For the love of Jesus......

I wish for the future, people would not link a pic of ugly Trump in the OP. Why not put hot daddy Mueller, this is his story and he is better to look at. Even Putin would be better than anus lipped, smug Trump.

Agreed. No more swine pics, thanks.

I wonder if the Mercers will ever face justice for their hand in the Charleston slaying?

They can afford to make the victim’s family whole.

They’d wouldn’t exactly miss the money.

His ugly pictures posted all over the place upsets him. I say we keep at it.

thanks for that link, r78.

I just finished writing postcards for the NY state primary. Myrie and May were the candidates I wrote for. I'd vote for both of them if I lived in NY.

New York voters, you need to turn your legislatures true blue so there is a safe oasis to flee to if necessary. Those of us stuck in red state hell feel safer if we know there is a true blue state we can refugee to if it comes to that.

Yes, we are working to get our sixth level of hell to only the second level of hell but it's an uphill battle. We're looking up to you.

R85, please consider Teachout for AG. I've read her opinion pieces in the Times for a while, and she was really great on the Ezra Klein Show (podcast) last week.

Teachout was very good in the AG candidates' debate last night, too.

Voting is sexy.

Everyone should put links to register to vote in your Grindr profile.

You got to make it easy for the lazy queens who still love at home.

I don't get to choose who to write for, r86, or I would. I like teachout and I think she will rain hell upon the scumbags which is what the country needs.

I'm just infantry in this battle, writing when I'm called upon and when I can. Usually postcards doesn't endorse one democrat over another - we usually just write to GOTV for the democrat in a special or general election.

But the situation in NY state has become so messed up that we started writing for true blue democrats in the September primary. This is unusual.

If you'd like to join the postcard writing campaign, you can go here:

R89 thanks for the info and your hard work. I canvass for the democratic nominee in the most gerrymandered district in my state. We must turn it blue!!!!

Nothing is guaranteed. We must canvass, phonebank, write postcards.

A caller confronts Alex Jones about the trans porn spotted on his phone.

One tab read: "Naughty tbade, Marissa Minx, relieved of cock hunger by stud."

^Oops, tbabe (spelling)

happens to me ALL the time. I type in a phone number on the phone's dialer and DAMMIT if trannyporn doesn't just pop up in a browser

Hey, a link for the Russher trolls, deplorables, and TERFers.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Yes, R95 -- this is what the Republicans are afraid of.

I was stationed in West Germany back in the 70s -- and trust me when I tell you, the Russians are not our -- or anyone else's -- friends.

I think we know that by now, r95.

I remember bankers falling from great heights in various cities, but commonly London, in 2010-2013.

I wonder which of the oligarchs was "connected to the flying Steel man.

Ruh Roh, Chris Christie in trouble:

[quote]The U.S. is investigating whether a fugitive Malaysian financier laundered tens of millions of dollars and used the money to pay a legal team that included former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and a lawyer who represents President Trump, The Wall Street Journal reports. Court filings say businessman Jho Low is alleged to have played a key role in the alleged embezzlement of $4.5 billion from a Malaysian fund known as 1Malaysia Development Bhd. The team of lawyers and consultants working for Low included Christie, lobbyist Ed Rogers, Trump’s longtime lawyer Marc Kasowitz, Trump Organization lawyer Bobby Burchfield, and vice chairman of the Trump campaign’s joint fund with the Republican Party Elliott Broidy. There is reportedly no indication that people who received payments from Low were aware the funds could have originated from laundered money; actor Leonardo DiCaprio was previously roped into the sprawling scandal, and forced to return funds tied to the scam. The Justice Department is investigating Low’s potential use of two intermediaries to facilitate the payments through the international financial system. Low has previously denied wrongdoing.

Trump tweeted McGahn's departure without discussing it with McGahn. Business as usual for Donnie Two Scoops.

Donnie Two Scoops is a great mob name.

Witch HUNT! No they're going after Chrsitie? What about Obama's fake birth certificate and Hillary's misuse of e-mail servers and Nancy Pelosi's existence? So unfair.

Someone on twitter claims the senatrice is involved with a young military man stationed in SC. Anyone else hear such tales?

[quote]Bangs!!! For the love of Jesus......

I’m reading “Fire and Fury” which is an enjoyable read so far and one part stuck out to me. Even die-hard trumpkins in the White House think Rebekah is nuts because of her hardline ideology. That’s pretty scary, no?

If you read the article, the headline is misleading. The Malaysian used laundered money to pay his legal team, including Christie, but it doesn't mean Christie had any participation in the laundering, or even knew that's how he was being paid.

Rebekah Mercer was the inspiration for Serena Joy..

So Elliott Briody again? He sure get around. I bet he's someone the Mueller team could flip in the blink of an eye.

The Mercer comments got me wondering - did we ever find out who the infamous 'Crystal Knight' was that funded the nazi tiki-torch and trouser crowd in Charlottesville?

Broidy is one that Mueller will want to take down, not let him plea or cooperate....along with Prince, Stone, Junior, Kushner and Trump. Hes way too dirty and connected to allow him to walk.

Not yet, R110.

r110 The Krystal Night case is working its way through the federal court system. Rebekah Mercer is certainly a prime suspect. But we will have to be patient. The Kavanaugh Supreme Court could end up protecting her true identity.

I used to listen to Terri gross. She interviewed a journalist who reported on the Mercers. Robert Mercer believes and follows a screwball scientist who lives in Oregon.

The scientist pees into jars and saves his urine, thinks nuclear war is cleansing, and the white race is best.

Robert and Rebecca Mercer have wanted to reshape the US and now they are. They are truly crazy and they are in power.

I wish I could remember the journalist's name.

[quote]Trump tweeted McGahn's departure without discussing it with McGahn. Business as usual for Donnie Two Scoops.

Maggie Haberman:

McGahn believes Kushner and Ivanka helped push out news about him to force his hand, ppl close to him say. Ivanka Trump complained bitterly to her father about Times story on McGahn intvu w Mueller a few weeks back, per people briefed

What a nest of vipers that White House is. I'm surprised the Senate isn't raising hell about McGahn. They love him. He's the one picking all the hideous judges they're stacking the courts with. He's the one who is protecting Kavanaugh's papers. I'm still looking for where I read this earlier this morning, but supposedly McGahn is going to join Trump's re-election committee. That's where they send everyone Trump fires so they can collect their $15,000 per month hush money.

McGahn is obviously the source on every story that makes him sound like some kind of hero working with Mueller. I'll wait for the full report before I believe he's helped at all.

Another "slip and fall" off a Russian balcony, McGahn "resigning" and Aretha changed clothes! I have to watch Maddow and Lawrence O' Donnell tonight for sure.

R105 @ Fort Jackson. He may be sitting at the table in the head pic of his Twitter account. A rumored former bf lives in Charleston..

DiCaprio is a Trumper???

r119 as in LEO? Hardly.

Another reason that Trump and the Republicans must be voted out: American citizens born and raised in this country are being hauled into deportation hearings and stripped of their passports and citizenship on flimsy suspicions. This relentless destruction of civil rights is Orwellian.

R121: THIS is one reason why I rushed to get a passport for me and my daughter along with the newly required long birth certificate!

Smart move, r122!

I was just channel surfing. I put on Fox News. There he was on The Ingraham Angle: Jeffrey Lord !!

CNN had Jeffrey Lord on as a regular all through the2016 campaign and beyond, until he got fired over some unacceptable remarks. During that time, he said "Reagan" thousands of times.

I don't care about Lord, I care abut Rachel Maddow. I couldn't watch Maddow tonight. Did she talk about the steel company VIP who went sky diving off a Russian balcony?

Funny how the Repugs no longer pine for Raygun. Everything use to be Raygun this, Raygun that and how great he was. No longer. The shine has been taken off that thing.

On a side note- there are no words to explain how morally bankrupt the Repugs are. There is no hyperbole hyper enough to adequately express their complete lack of integrity or love of country. As we all suspected, all the patriotic bullshit they spew was all for show. They'd put a bullet in the head of this nation for a buck and a dollop of oppression.

So Dump is now just gonna spew the same words over and over like a crazed person on a street corner? And THIS is our PRESIDENT?

It was reported he said he hated Session's southern accent and that it was like a mouth full of marbles. LAWDY if a Democrat said that...........

Donnie Dotard tweeted that Gyna hacked Clinton's server. Riiiiight...

Better this than a fourth fat covergirl thread.

R130 How strange! Given Hillary's personal mail server was never hacked in the first place... Dotard is living in fantasy and damn the GOP for doing nothing.

Thank you all for this thread. I can't sleep. It's 3:03 am at my place. But this thread has been a lifesaver.

Exactly, R132. A key point everyone seems to overlook when mentioning this. Funny thing. The State Department was hacked by Russian operatives back then, remember? Not Hillary's. People also seem to overlook the fact that as a former President, Bill Clinton and Hillary don't have the same kind of IT set up you or I might have in our homes. Bill still gets National Security briefings, and his home server and the IT capabilities are a lot more up to date, state of the art servers, etc.

It's 74 minutes later now, R133, but me too!

As I think about it, and sit here completely appalled by the lack of concern and the cowardice, and convinced of the depth of the corruption running through the Republican Party, a few things come to mind. First I don't believe for a minute that is simple fear of the Trump base that paralyzes the GOP. I believe that the corruption is even deeper than we can imagine. Blackmail, pay offs, etc. I also believe that at least several are long time assets of the Russians.

But the political analysts, the number crunchers and forecasters, they had to know that the Republican Party, if it continued down the path it set for itself years ago, with Reagan, was going to shrink itself into a corner and not have wide appeal. They had to know that their ever shrinking base could never win a national election without suppression, gerrymandering, and fraud. My point is, they have been doing it anyway. So they don't give a fuck. I believe that the entire party is a criminal enterprise that has set out to deliberately defraud the American People in national elections for years.

R134 Dotard must be confused, but then again he never really cares much for reality. As I recall, the GOP partisans were upset Hillary deleted personal emails off her own server, so they concocted a conspiracy theory/fantasy that Hillary must have deleted incriminating emails to hide her nefarious plans. Didn't Dotard himself encourage the Russians to go "find" those deleted emails?

I completely agree with r136

Trump is now evidently saying Lester Holt fudged the tape of the interview they did last year. You know, the tape we’ve all seen unedited, a thousand times. (At least he didn’t say Holt monkeyed it up.)

According to the WaPo Trump is completely unprepared for the anticipated Democratic take over of the House. He keeps insisting they will not take the House. Now that's either magical thinking, denying reality, or that's because he knows the fix is in. But his staffers and all the internal analysts believe a Democratic take over is inevitable. They are watching the numbers.

The main point of the article is that Trump is totally unprepared for them. He has no staff to address any of the legal issues his office will face and his personal legal team is completely inadequate to deal with his personal liability. They believe that before they ever get to impeachment, it's going to be one investigation after another for all the crap the Trumpanistas have been doing. There will be committees of Congress investigating every hair on their asses. FINALLY.

McGahn's departure, and the loss of his core staffers who have been jumping ship for months, is a real blow. They said if Trump doesn't find someone good to take the reigns of the Special Counsel's office he is fucked. He sits there complaining because everyone, Jared, and others, everyone has better tougher smarter lawyers with more experience, than his team. He doesn't understand why. maybe because he doesn't listen to legal advance, tweets too much, and is an impossible client...who doesn't pay his bills?

The saddest thing of all is that there seems to be not one patriot among the GOP members of Congress. Yes, McCain openly opposed Trump, but he mostly voted with his Republican colleagues when it counted. Yet, McCain is the only one who challenged Trump and who tried to get McConnell to do the right thing. I believe if McCain had been well and strong he would have tried to build an insurgency but they would have isolated him. Yes, we have widespread "retirements" and not only because they couldn't win in their districts. A lot of them can't stomach what's happening, but they refuse to speak out or and here's the difficult part, they refuse to oppose them. Corker and Flake are perfect examples. There are a few others. Criticize the way Ryan and McConnell run the show, criticize Trump who they can hardly hide their disgust with him, and yet, every time they have to vote, even though they're leaving, they vote with the bastards. it's mystifying.

R136, Not deeper than I can imagine!

And the treason didn't start when the name "Trump" entered the political lexicon. Look, for example, at Rex Tillerson, working closely with Russia over oil. The blackmailing of LG is probably long-entrenched.

But Trump is the most useful idiot, giving cover to the rest.

Neither Lester Holt nor his bosses will allow Trump's slander to go unanswered.

And the retraction WILL be made public.

r136 All of this is why if Democrats ever get control of both houses and the White House again we need to abolish the Electoral College. It's the only way Republicans keep getting control of everything. They lose the popular vote in the Presidential race, Democrats get more votes over-all for Congress....and we still remain a minority because of the EC and gerrymandering.

Hmm... good for them, but for the midterms...

[quote]Yes, McCain openly opposed Trump, but he mostly voted with his Republican colleagues when it counted.

Of course he did, Trump is pushing through standard-issue Republican policies aimed at enabling the 1% to loot government coffers, subjugate workers, marginalize the disadvantaged and destroy the environment. McCain and his fellow Never-Trumpers object to the style of the Trump administration, not the substance.

R144, the Democrats need more than Congress to abolish the Electoral College (and the White House isn't relevant). It would take a constitutional amendment, so they need both houses of Congress and a three-quarters majority of state legislatures. They'll need many cycles to get the latter, thanks to the Democrats' relative neglect of local and state races in favor of higher-profile national ones. There are plenty of blue-leaning people in the medium and large-sized towns in red country (as many pointed out after the 2016 election, looking at electoral maps district by district); with more local funding we could turn a lot of those areas purple or even blue, but it'll take time and money.

Crap. I didn't know it needed an amendment. How could we ever do that? I live in a red area and except for President and governor I usually never even have a Democratic name to vote for. Republicans run unopposed for everything.

R147 is right, and I'm no conspiracy theorist, but we really need to smarten up and get very active in ur states. Republican control of state legislatures and governors is around 30 states. They only need 8 more to control the Constitutional amendment process and they have a shopping list of things they want to change. It is very scary. Some of them, supported by the Kochs, want a Constitutional Convention to "up date and revise" our "out of date" Constitution. When these Fascists start fucking with the Constitution we are fucked. So make sure you get local when you are out here. We need every Democratic candidate we can find, and we need to vote the GOP out. The party has been taken over by extremists and the real money power behind those extremists is determined to set up their corporate police state. This is no joke.

The cult will never wake up... I've accepted it. Fools.

That's a great angle, R150. I hope they get him on tape at Mar A Lago mocking them.

George Papadopoulos has decided not to contest his plea agreement with Mueller. Multiple lawyers must have told him that he is totally fucked and there is no way out. Papadopoulos is a stupid clown. Another one of Trump's "best people".

Well, one of my best coffee boys anyway.

I agree with R149. If the fascist right-wing ever manages to convene a constitutional convention this country is fucked. It will be the end America as we know it.

Sessions is well-liked by established conservatives in Alabama. Trump personally attacking him gives them some conflicted reactions. But the Trump base is going to accept whatever Trump says or does is best, and make excuses that he knows things they don't.

How many days McCain's remains are going to be paraded across country, then the cable media cuts to the Widow Lindzey for added tributes and hearing her personal agony of grief and the challenges of coping? She even reported DJT phoned her after her Senate presentation, and said "he couldn't have been nicer."

R140 "McGahn's departure, and the loss of his core staffers who have been jumping ship for months, is a real blow. They said if Trump doesn't find someone good to take the reigns of the Special Counsel's office he is fucked."

My prediction: Trump will probably hire another lawyer he sees while watching Fox News. Maybe this guy...

I'm assuming his biker buddies will set him up with Russ Brown, r157.

R155/R156

Excuse my naïveté, but what’s with posts like r159? What’s the purpose?

he's trying to see the posters he's blocked in the past, r160.

dies it on every damn thread sometimes multiple times. It's really annoying.

I only block trumptards or trolls so I don't GAF what they've said.

Oh, I get it now! Thank you, r161.

[quote] I only block trumptards or trolls so I don't GAF what they've said

Agreed. And if it's something outrageous or unintentionally funny, other posters seem more than eager to respond with the offender's post number in their posts.

What's the point of blocking someone if you're just going to read their posts anyway?

R164, you can see their selective posts if and when you want too.

Very interesting opinion piece today.

Nobody's talking about Reality Winner today?

Slightly off topic, but I saw Elizabeth Warren interviewed last night and was very impressed with what she was saying. I usually am. If she ran for president, would she have a snowball's chance?

No. it would be, "Pocahontas, Pocahontas" all day long. Trump would continually, endlessly accuse her of being a liar and grifter and the networks would give his claims endless, breathless coverage, as if someone sane with credibility was saying it.

I hope she doesn't. This next election is a white man's election. No woman has a chance in hell, too many misogynists out there would love to attack her as a distraction to Trump's problems.

[quote]No woman has a chance in hell, too many misogynists out there would love to attack her as a distraction to Trump's problems.

I agree. Unfortunately, I think the Dem nominee can't be any sort of minority at all.

I believe Florida went in favor of Obama at least once?

Personally I doubt that it would be an issue if the Democratic candidate is a woman or a member of a minority group.

- Anyone's better than Trump

- the general public would turn on the media outlet the moment they reveal themselves to be biased against the Democratic candidate

- the general public is not going to go for the GOP's usual, high almighty rethoric, because their recent actions (siding with Trump) is not making them very popular these days. And I doubt that is forgotten when the presidential election is taking place and Trump's mess is still in everybodies' minds.

- Millennials, more social media savy, will not fall for Russian bots and alt-right, and ignore the Bernie bots to vote more strategically (as in for the Democratic Party).

Oh my! Lindsey is cussing again!

Lindsey says that when Trump talks negative about McCain, "it pisses me off to no end".

Perhaps stop enabling Trump, Lindsey?

Thrlled to announce the birth of my twin grandchildren, Rusher (a boy) and Jyna (the sweetest girl)!

"Lindsey says that when Trump talks negative about McCain, "it pisses me off to no end"."

I assume this is followed by a delicate foot stamp.

[quote]"Lindsey says that when Trump talks negative about McCain, "it pisses me off to no end, so I refuse to blow him after I rim him!!!"

Well good for you miss Lindseed Graham. A girl has to stand her ground and not be taken advantage of, am I right? Fiddle dee dee. Tomorrow is another day. As Donald said to me the other night “the South will rise again”.

I hate that pic, OP, otherwise thank you for this continuation of a great thread. Looking forward to more indictments. That pic is serious support for an edit function here.

Chuck Todd Warns of Possible Mueller Bombshell: ‘I Wouldn’t Miss Work Tomorrow’

What is this notion that something big is happening tomorrow? Is it because of that Giuliani nonsense about how Mueller wouldn’t dare do anything after 9-1?

Mueller will release his report when he's done. Dates be damned.

Dotard is probably going to fire Sessions tomorrow.

Quite frankly any media that doesn't point at Giuliani and laughs can't be taken seriously and should be dismissed as pure Trump propaganda outlet. Even his viral soundbites are shit (truth isn't the truth?).

R172 thinks Millennials will save us from Trump.

They're so "savy".

r184 thinks we should all be concerned that the sky is falling.

I'm not getting my hopes up about tomorrow. I need to unplug for awhile, I'm feeling down again.

Same here R186. Turned off the TV and checking here for updates. I will watch the news again when something majorly good happens.

Trump has said that he won't fire Sessions until after the midterms, which means that he will probably fire Sessions any second now.

I feel a lot of Trump fatigue going on in the air. The Hill kept pushing some bs article about Mr. Dump ranting about the media again and I noticed it didn't get as much play as other stories, despite top billing.

Omarosa is right, and I've said it myself: ignore him and he dies. Though a certain faction believes that doing that gives him carte blanche with the grifting. So just what are Ivanka and Jared, the unpaid advisors, doing these days? Right.....

[quote] Millennials, more social media savy, will not fall for Russian bots and alt-right, and ignore the Bernie bots.

Bwah-ha-ha-ha.

Looks like Chuck Todd isn't claiming any particular foreknowledge; he just thinks that since Labor Day begins the conceptual campaign season, and tomorrow is the last workday before then, anything Mueller wants out there before the campaign season he'll get out there tomorrow.

I just don't get the feeling Mueller works that way.

No, but media clowns like Chuck Todd are always trying to predict his moves because it makes for good copy.

Mueller is an upholder of American institutions and he will protect the country from the Fat Orange Fuck nno matter what. If that means indicting him prior to the mid-terms, then that's what it means. If it means farming out a lot of the cases to the states, he'll do it. If it means indicting him while he's still in office, then so be it.

Whatever it takes to make sure that we get this scumbag fake president.

I think Trump's support is softening. The Tariffs, the tax cuts for the wealthy, healthcare issues, and now McCain. A lot of them ar e very conflicted about the way he treated McCain. They really do not like it. So Trump's base is starting to shrink. yes there are hardore lunatics who will never desert him, but his support is definitely softening.

Mueller is not on a time schedule, and he could care less about WHEN he releases any report.....If its ready and its the day before an election, then hell release it. The rest is just propaganda and talking points. These same people claim there is no proof of collusion....as if they just ignore all the things they report on 24/7.

[quote]Slightly off topic, but I saw Elizabeth Warren interviewed last night and was very impressed with what she was saying. I usually am. If she ran for president, would she have a snowball's chance?

No. It's not just the Pochahontas stuff either. She does not have the personal charisma that says LEADER. No way would she be able to pull in any undecideds. It was the same for John Kerry.

Man I want to see don jr cry when he is charged. Tomorrow works for me! Let Donny watch the mcCain coverage that he wasn't invited to first. Hope it's McCain's service on fox ALL DAY LONG!

If any of his kids are charged I genuinely fear what he will do. He has so many enablers he could do anything.

R199, I think that only applies to Ivanka. He'll drop the rest of them without a second thought.

He'll walk over Ivanka's dead body, too. Narcissists don't take bullets for their kids; they expect the kids to take a bullet for them.

Now that would be amusing, Ivanka the Complicit vs the Fat Orange Fuck, who would throw whom under the bus faster?

Or Ivanka vs Don Jr, or Ivanka vs Jared.. nah, she'd kill them both in a heartbeat. Daddy though, I don't know.

I love Clinton's "Yeah, whatever, Donald" expression at R98.

Please. Donald would sell Ivanka out faster than he could grab her pussy.

And guess what? Vanka would do the same to daddy.

She is his daughter after all.

Forget impeachment, why hasn’t the ground opened up and swallowed all these shameless crooks into the earth by now.

I was never the most religious person but if there ever was a god, now would be a good time to intervene.

*clasps hands*

Exactly, R204, hence my question... between the two who would sell out the other one first? Eric and Don Jr. will go to jail for the Fat Orange Fuck but Ivanka won't.

With Jared on her side and the Fat Fuck's age, I'll go with Ivanka for the win.

When does Cohen go to jail? I just saw him! At around 10pm I saw him enter his building with I'm assuming his wife. He doesn't look ugly, was wearing a grey polo shirt and jeans. Think they were coming back from dinner. I said hi to him, he saw me but said nothing. I was jogging past and it only lasted a second or two.

What would you have said if you saw him?

The Orange one is almost ready to pop. Mueller needs to turn up the heat by arresting one of the kids...seriously, what is he waiting for? Trump does horrible things every day he is in office, he need to be gone.

Some rightwing political organization called me today for a survey but come to find out...it was just an excuse to libel the Democratic candidate. These people are all filth. There is nothing good about any Republican.

It's obvious Vanka would turn on Daddy first. She may be exactly like her father with one exception... she's smarter than he is.

No idea, R207, Mueller's not finished with him and holding back until later.

Cohen's giving evidence for anyone who is prosecuting the Fat Fuck. He's hoping to collect some time off recommendations before his sentencing.

If forced to choose, who would Ivanka save? Her husband or her father?

Ivanka will throw both Jared and Daddy Dearest under the bus if it saves her ass. The mere fact that she would do this is EXACTLY why she is the favorite of Daddy Dearest. She has the ruthlessness that both boys lack and that Daddy admires.

A conversation with a person who went from a Repug to Democrat:

A friend of mine called me to say he had dinner with his friend who had turned from a rabid Repug to a Democrat. This friend had turned a few years ago. He called to tell me why. He hadn't spoken to this friend in quite awhile. What he said was this- he used to be a true blue capitalist. He was raised to hate any interference into the free market even when the free market fucked something up. He said he came to realize the Dems had figured out the right formula for the economy. That formula was a mix of capitalism/socialism such as SS and Medicare. He knew the Dems were far superior to conservatives on the economy because they were not tied to dogma. They did what was necessary to achieve strong growth with a safety net and regulations. He thought this was unfair and clung to his dogma. He said he always thought they had to beat the Dems in other ways and cheat, lie and steal if need be because, darn it, the Dems just had no principles. They would fix any flaw in the capitalist system. How could conservatives compete with that? He said once he let go of the conservative dogma, he had this crazy awakening and said it was like a huge mountain was lifted from his shoulders. He said it was the 2007-08 crisis that started his awakening. He said it is so obvious liberal economic philosophy works and conservative economic philosophy doesn't and never has.

I agree, 213, Ivanka will go for the jugular and she's a lot younger than the Fat Orange Fuck.

Now with Jared, I think Jared would rather die than go to prison like his father. He'll throw them all under a fleet of buses if he has to, he's not going to jail.

[quote]She (Warren) does not have the personal charisma that says LEADER.

I don't accept your premise. Maybe the problem is that we put "personal charisma" at the top of the list of characteristics of leaders? I prefer experience, knowledge, empathy, intelligence, creative thinking, great ideas, and on and on.

thanks for sharing that, r214

Is his name Alan Greenspan, r214?

Those things are all great, R216, and your virtue signalling is outstanding. It just doesn't get the job done.

Brilliant advisors, policy wonks, cabinet secretaries and etc. have the attributes you list but many of them don't wear well on television every day for years on end. Among other things, President of the United States is a six to ten year contract as an international tv star. Charisma is a necessary component of modern politics and not just modern, it's always been that way (see Julius Caesar).

Happily, it's not an either/or proposition, look at President Obama.

r209 the Heritage Foundation sent me a questionnaire. I imagine the question-setter didn't count on a respondent who took note of all the golf trips and travel expenses the POTUS dings the taxpayer with, as the questions were all about "fiscal sense" of screwing the American people out of healthcare and benefits.

[quote]If forced to choose, who would Ivanka save? Her husband or her father?

Her father. For one thing, if the situation was put on her husband---choose dad or wife--Jared would choose his dad in a heart beat. I'm sure Ivanka knows this. I think the only way Ivanka would sell out her dad is if she truly believed his ship was sinking with no hope. donald has circumvented the law and bounced back so many times since she was a kid it would take more than what is going on now for her to lose faith in him. That's how I see it anyway.

There are two problems with Warren. One of them is never discussed, which is she was a REPUBLICAN until fairly recently. Her personal interest was in the Republicans passing laws to allow risky or preferential banking practices, which she was against. Great. But finance is her personal interest and that’s why that particular issue concerned her. That doesn’t make her liberal on every issue. In reality she’s more of a centrist Republican who has interests in common with Democrats on some issues.

Secondly, she reminds straight men of their nagging bitch of a wife or mother who complains in her nagging, whiny, bitchy voice when they want to sit on the couch all day in a dirty undershirt watching football. When she bitches about it, they scratch their balls in front of her just to piss her off, while she huffs impotently. That’s Warren’s high pitched, whiny voice and spinster aunt demeanor to straight men in a nutshell.

Are they voting for somebody like that? Hell no. Rush Limbaugh invented the word “Feminazi” to describe women like Warren. Put a sexy, empty headed slut like Sarah Palin up there and she might have a chance. Not schoolmarm Warren.

R219, I didn't find Obama overly charismatic. He was professorial and kind of a nerd, in the best sense. He was polite, kind, professional, and had a great smile. And, he was all of the things I listed above while I was "virtue signaling".

And, I'm so sick of people using the term 'virtue signaling' all over the place. Stop just going with the group think on everything, including the latest term that everyone has jumped on. It makes you sound stupid. Just because television wants to sell us 'charisma' because it makes their ratings higher doesn't mean we should all just go along with it. Or, at least go along with their definition of charisma which, if you haven't noticed, currently happens to be Trumps and Kardashians.

Link for Warren being republican?

r222 WTF did you write? There are so many things wrong with what you wrote I'll just leave it to bad drugs on your part.

r223, that is the first time in my life that I have ever used the term "virtue signalling" and it was only because you were so fucking shameless about it. But never mind, I can already tell that you are unable to see yourself with any clarity.

Additionally, if you were unable to see President Obama's obvious and blinding charisma, then perhaps you simply don't see much charisma in men at all. Are you a lesbian? Before you start whining again, yes, some lesbians see tons of charisma in President Obama.

Trump does have one superpower, and he used it to great advantage in the last election. That is the power to belittle, demean, lie about ridicule and humiliate someone until they become irrelevant. That’s how he got through a very large field of much more qualified candidates and won the election.

From “Little Marco” to “Lyin’ Ted” and “Low Energy Jeb” Bush, he knocked down one candidate after another. Hillary Clinton will be known as “Crooked Hillary” for the rest of her life in some quarters and I am sure some Trumpsters will repeat it on the day of her funeral.

Trump has one talent: destroying other people. That’s why I think somebody like Michael Avenatti night actually have a snowball’s chance in hell.

Rank and file Democrats are sick and tired of being the nice nerds that get sand kicked in their face by the bully. If the party won’t furnish us with a fighting candidate, people may vote with their checkbook for someone who’s a fighter.

Who can hold their own in a Presidential debate when Trump dodges every serious question and name calls his opponent? Who will fight back and slam Trump right back? Who’s not afraid to use Trump’s own dirt against him? That’s who the nominee should be. Not a scaredy cat or a “when they go low, we go high” type.

R226, you are going to write that post and then try to call me out for virtue signaling (congrats on jumping on that bandwagon for the first time, btw), shamelessness, and the lack of self-awareness? Uh huh.

[quote]Are you a lesbian?

I vote Jezebelian frau.

About Warren, it’s well known she was a registered Republican at one time. Google is your friend. This is dated 2011:

Elizabeth Warren, a favorite of the left, admitted that she was once a Republican.

In an interview with The Daily Beast released on Tuesday, Warren, 62, who recently began a bid to unseat Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) admitted that up into her early 40s she was a Republican.

"I was a Republican because I thought that those were the people who best supported markets. I think that is not true anymore," Warren said. "I was a Republican at a time when I felt like there was a problem that the markets were under a lot more strain. It worried me whether or not the government played too activist a role."

So what...I was a Republican 25 years ago too...Its not the same party it was back then.

^^^and Im a die hard liberal now.^^^

R232 When did you see the light?

Old Ivanka isn't looking too happy these days. She's shut down her website along with ending her fashion business. Probably selling off assets in preparation for a long vacation in Russia.

I have no problem with people who change parties. For some it means they thought deeply and admitted they had changed their minds.

I believe Warren changed her mind after a multi year research project on poverty. Her data conflicted with her opinions. She adjusted her thinking based on facts and became a democrat.

Ivanka would most certainly throw her father under the bus and then claim it's all to save her little kids from growing up without her mother (because for any woman it's undignified to do something out of self interest - that's only ok and understandable for men). I think she would have dumped Jared by now after finding out that he isn't as wealthy as he made everybody else believe he would be and in some serious debt (because of that 666 building).

I watched his rally in Indiana tonight and he’s sounding more and more unhinged all the time. He went on about the “deep state radicals” and the “globalist ruling class,” and the DOJ and FBI being disgraceful and if they didn’t start doing their jobs he’s gonna have to “get involved.” Now what does that mean? I assume firing people?

He seems mentally unstable, paranoid and fixated on that Q Anon conspiracy stuff. What can be done about this? It’s getting alarming. Our country is being run by a loon.

Warren is a flat-footed shrill campaigner and was a Republican until 1996, I believe. She was a TWO-TIME REAGAN ASS LICKER!

I enjoy her at times, but she's fine right where she is. She too is almost 70 years old.

Is he really afraid of the Bob Woodward book? Woodward is so polite and a Republican, will he be honest?

Michael Cohen made $7 million by selling his interest in two apartment buildings. This is hilarious because he will have to pay capital gains tax on the profit. In addition, he is undoubtedly bankrupt due to the huge debt he owes on his taxi medallion investments. He also owes back taxes on his taxi medallion income. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Is Bob Woodward still a republican?

The question is how is Bob Woodward still a republican?

Two people have predicted that Mueller will make a move today...something like an indictment or new material presented against Trump. I hope these people are right.

I heard Mueller was waiting out the McCain funeral week and things might not come out until next week. I think that sept 1 ghouliani deadline is pure BS and Mueller knows that.

What disease leads the media to listen to, believe and then regurgitate Rudy's bullshit? Nobody knows what Mueller will do. He could keep dropping indictments until the election. He could drop one today. He could go quiet for two months. He could send a report next week. Nobody knows anything and this Sept 1 deadline WAS MADE UP BY RUDY. And now the press reports things like there really is a steadfast rule Mueller has to stop and go quiet on September 1. We'll know Mueller's intentions when and if he gives a statement, and the last person he is telegraphing anything to is Rudy fucking Giuliani.

[quote]He said he came to realize the Dems had figured out the right formula for the economy.

He didn't figure this out in 1933???

[quote]“globalist ruling class,” =

JEWS

So Donnie Jr. is proposing that some Conservative billionaire in Silicon Valley invent a Conservative version of Facebook and Twitter to "take on" the existing social networks. The Response from Dorsey (Twitter) and Zuckerberg ( Facebook) was pure delight. They said PLEASE do it. They'd love it if all the jerks had their own playpen.

Anyway, some analysis indicates that even if they tried that they could never make it work, because there are not enough supporters to sustain it! That IMO was the key. NOT ENOUGH SUPPORTERS!!!!! The article went on to mention that on any given night, Sean Hannity, the most successful Op/Ed guy on Fox, only attracts 3 million viewers. And I saw data somewhere else that Maddow beats Hannity on a regular basis. It just made me feel hopeful so I wanted to share.

By the way:If you want to get a quick hit of news subscribe to Axios. It's free and it is an online daily digest that gives you a summary of what's happening. Plus I think Jonathan Swan is adorable. I get great stuff from them. Ten minutes in the morning & again at night. And if you're interested in what's happening in IT or Finance etc . you can subscribe to their Science Finance or Tech e-mails.

I hope Mueller does something after the first while wearing white!

The problem is that the media needs some sort of justification that they spend so much time covering "the other side" even when it's just a fringe group. That's why you get these shifty polls of how much Deplorables there are and how much support Donald Trump still has amongst Republicans. Otherwise the public would go: Why does the media waste so much time on these losers? Is that supposed to be news? The media misleads in order to keep having an audience they can mislead / manipulate further.

Unfortunately r190 is right to be skeptical. Millennials were, to some degree, very taken by Bernie and the bots. I observed otherwise intelligent people posting RT videos on Facebook and retweeting the bots as if they were friends. The Bernie apparatus also had these people foreclosing on voting for Clinton immediately after the convention.

Sorry about the post above, the thread hadn’t loaded and I was just offering commentary to keep it alive. I don’t mean to change the topic back to millennial voters, Bernie, or bots, especially when there could be some Mueller action today. Friday is the most common day. Don’t we usually learn at 10 ET if there will be a DOJ announcement?

I would have expected more blowback on Herr Drumpf's call for Mueller's investigation to be shut down. Is this the one Twitter eruption not seen to be an official policy pronouncement?

Sorry, but to me the whole "us vs. stupid Millennials" is just a typical "Divide & Conquer" ploy from the GOP / alt-right / Russian Bots making it look like "Liberals" are dismissing Millenals and therefore Millennials either should sit elections out or join the Deplorables (out of spite).

Just look at the return of recent anti Millennial threads. Milo Y.'s back in full force trying to pit one group against another.

Sure, ALL Millennials are stupid, vapid, cannot be trusted.

[quote]Some rightwing political organization called me today for a survey but come to find out...it was just an excuse to libel the Democratic candidate. These people are all filth. There is nothing good about any Republican.

Guess what? That’s the future of politics. We either adapt or we will be playing at a huge handicap and will suffer for it.

We need a centrist* Cambridge Anslytica or we are dead. .

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*America does not have a Left, proven by the fact that our fascists refer to “Leftists”

[quote] [R144], the Democrats need more than Congress to abolish the Electoral College (and the White House isn't relevant). It would take a constitutional amendment

If it hasn’t already been mentioned, there is a remedy short of a constitutional amendment. Individual states can pass laws stating that their delegates to the electoral college must vote for whomever wins the national plurality of the votes. So, in the last election, a solid red state like Wyoming would have gone for Hillary. Actually, all states would have gone for Hillary.

This law has actually been passed in a number of states. It includes a tripwire stating that it only comes into effect after some number of states representing X number of electors all pass the same law.

If this ever takes effect, I hope the states will then follow through with a constitutional amendment to tidy-up. In the meantime, they should pass an amendment limiting corporate donations to campaigns, and personhood. That really needs to change. I don’t hear the Dems, or anyone, really, working on this.

I am a millennial, r254, and think that there are major problems with the rates at which this generation votes and its susceptibility to a cult of personality. However, I agree totally with you and offered my apology at r252 for prolonging the conversation.

Thanks, R257, I had heard about that movement, but it seemed too remote a possibility to mention at this point, unfortunately. Totally agree with you about a follow-up constitutional amendment and limiting corporate donations. (Incidentally, sorry to "oh dear," but it should be "for whoever wins").

[quote] I heard Mueller was waiting out the McCain funeral week and things might not come out until next week. I think that sept 1 ghouliani deadline is pure BS and Mueller knows that.

It is BS. Presumably none of the people he may indict -- Stone, Junior Mint, etc. are running for any office.

Moreover, the prohibition is against timing an indictment or an announcement to influence the outcome of an election. If Rudy and tRump want the investigation "wrapped up" as soon as possible, then Mueller (with the approval of Rosenstein) can't possibly wait until November if they are ready to indict now.

Mueller moves today.

There’s a high probability of another guilty plea in 10 minutes, according to the Bloomberg article above.

Well, all guilty pleas by these fuckers are good, but I was hoping for the Tater Tot himself, Junior Mint. But, patience . . .

THE ART OF THE DEAL: The Toronto Star has obtained inflammatory secret comments about Canada that Trump made "off the record" yesterday, and they have upended the talks this morning.

In remarks Trump wanted to be “off the record,” Trump told Bloomberg News reporters on Thursday, according to a source, that he is not making any compromises at all in the talks with Canada — but that he cannot say this publicly because “it’s going to be so insulting they’re not going to be able to make a deal.”

“Here’s the problem. If I say no — the answer’s no. If I say no, then you’re going to put that, and it’s going to be so insulting they’re not going to be able to make a deal ... I can’t kill these people,” he said of the Canadian government.

In another remark he did not want published, Trump said, according to the source, that the possible deal with Canada would be “totally on our terms.” He suggested he was scaring the Canadians into submission by repeatedly threatening to impose tariffs.

Trudeau’s team believed the remarks to be accurate, and it saw them as confirmation of its suspicions that Trump’s team has not been truly planning to compromise. So at the outset of the Friday meeting Trudeau’s officials unveiled the quotes to their U.S. counterparts.

The Star's Daniel Dale says the comments "have upended the talks this morning."

The guy in r261's link doesn’t really have anything to do with Mueller’s investigation or Russia, does he?

Mueller referred the case to the US Atty in DC, r265. The subject worked with Cambridge Analytica and others connected to Trump, Russia, and others likewise ensnared by the Mueller probe.

The subject, Sam Patten, pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with US prosecutors as well.

AP: A senior Justice Department lawyer says a former British spy told him at a breakfast meeting two years ago that Russian intelligence believed it had Donald Trump “over a barrel,” according to multiple people familiar with the encounter.

The lawyer, Bruce Ohr, also says he learned that a Trump campaign aide had met with higher-level Russian officials than the aide had acknowledged, the people said.

The previously unreported details of the July 30, 2016, breakfast with Christopher Steele, which Ohr described to lawmakers this week in a private interview, reveal an exchange of potentially explosive information about Trump between two men the president has relentlessly sought to discredit.

Oh, R268 - that is DELICIOUS!

And now we see why Trump has been desperate to discredit Bruce Ohr.

r268, are any news channels reporting this, or are they are still stuck on Aretha and John McCain's funeral happenings?

Well, R265, we don't know what Sam Patten knows. The article said that he "agreed to cooperate with U.S. prosecutors as part of a guilty plea for failing to register in the U.S. as a foreign agent for his work lobbying on behalf of a Ukrainian political party." That charge isn't directly related to tRump and Russia, but he may have helpful information. If he didn't, the prosecutors would not have been interested in him cooperating. Unless you have useful information, there's no need for your "cooperation."

cnn is reporting this right now

Yeah but this whole giving equal fair time to fabricated lies, caused-and-then-solved problems, and name calling, just because it happens to be done by the president of our nation...it’s getting old. And it’s at the very least embarrassing, if not outright dangerous.

Sorry, I hadn’t refreshed, and was responding to r250.

I think Mueller is tightening the noose to make sure everything comes out no matter what Trump tries to do to suppress the investigation or its findings, but farming out aspects of it to other courts. All of these ancillary cases are connected. So Manafort is part of a web of conspiracy not acting alone out of mere greed. That's important to expose. Because by doing it this way Mueller is nailing Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump to the fucking floor.

Do anyone ever figure out who “Crystal Knight” on reddit was?

Ukrainian Prime Minister who led rebellion assassinated in bombing today......

So maybe Trump is projecting when he suggests violence if they lose? But he is really telling on himself and the powers behind him. Putin is out of touch if he thinks We are going to rise up and get violent. More like the Tiki Torch carriers and their Alt Right minions may try to start some shit but we are not going to fall for that.

"Maybe I will, maybe I won't".

Lindz up to old tricks.

i only play one side boyz, no way am i vers

r277 The name is Krystall Night. The fight over her identity continues in federal court.

She calls herself Kristall Night.

A refresher on kristall.night

R278, they said Putin was really going to crack down after the World Cup was over.

[quote]i only play one side boyz, no way am i vers

Silence, yankee imposter! I'm quite vers. I offer my gentleman callers both fellation and sexe anal. Ooh la la!

R280/R286

Not sure if this has been shared yet.

More good news.

[quote]Not sure if this has been shared yet.

Despite the 10-15 replies directly above yours about exactly this?

R290, I don't see them....

I have R290 blocked.

More collusion by Americans. Doesn’t seem Trump related.

What?! It’s directly Trump related, R293. Did you not read the whole article?

R293, see R288, R272, R267, R266, R265 and R261.

Generic ballot looking good.

Ok, R294. It first seemed tangential, but I changed my mind.

We do not want an anguished widow senator feeling like this.

hey, I think Cindi McCain will be just fine. I don't want Meghan in there.

THey're saying Trump's DISAPPROVAL ratings are over 60%.

I think Mueller understood the message being sent by trump and his litter bearers. After the Midterms he is firing Sessions and the investigation is going to be in serious trouble. So I think Mueller's tine table is going to be much different. And he is tightening the noose by farming out all these other investigations. He is setting things up to strangle Trump and his filthy ratfaced children.

HEY, r299!!!

So come Tuesday, when according to legend the populace really starts thinking about the election, will hitherto apathetic Republicans start coming home to Trump? Or will fence-sitters wake up to reality and harden into anti-Trump Democrats? I hope the latter, and not just optimistically; I suspect that Trump has reached his maximum of support and most newly motivated voters will be those against him.

Trump's approval rating is back down to 36%. We need to get every living ass to the polls. Seriously. THIS is the Presidential Diselection!

He's holding a gross rally now w/ small business owners. Such ugly rhetoric. "Open-border crime-infested Democrats..."

Link please r302

R304 - it's just one poll.

So disapproval is at an all-time high, but approval isn't at an all-time low.

Progressives & Gillum (FL)

The poll showing his disapporval over 60% is a reputable poll

PRogressives include Hillary supporters, R307. Gillum was a strong Hillary delegate.

The secret to a good economy is, SPREAD THE MONEY AROUND! People need things and if they have the money to buy, they will buy.

Poll: 60 percent disapprove of Trump, while clear majorities back Mueller and Sessions

By Philip Rucker and Scott Clement

August 31 at 7:00 AM President Trump’s disapproval rating has hit a high point of 60 percent, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll that also finds that clear majorities of Americans support the special counsel’s Russia investigation and say the president should not fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

At the dawn of the fall campaign sprint to the midterm elections, which will determine whether Democrats retake control of Congress, the poll finds a majority of the public has turned against Trump and is on guard against his efforts to influence the Justice Department and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s wide-ranging probe.

Nearly half of Americans, 49 percent, say Congress should begin impeachment proceedings that could lead to Trump being removed from office, while 46 percent say Congress should not.

And a narrow majority — 53 percent — say they think Trump has tried to interfere with Mueller’s investigation in a way that amounts to obstruction of justice; 35 percent say they do not think the president has tried to interfere.

Overall, 60 percent of Americans disapprove of Trump’s job performance, with 36 percent approving, according to the poll. Because of random sampling variation, this represents only a marginal shift from the last Post-ABC survey, in April, which measured Trump’s rating at 56 percent disapproval and 40 percent approval.

The new poll was conducted Aug. 26 to 29, in the week after former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was convicted of federal tax and bank fraud and after former Trump attorney Michael Cohen pleaded guilty and implicated the president in illegal payments to silence women who alleged sexual encounters with Trump.

The four-month gap between Post-ABC polls makes it difficult to attribute the modest uptick in disapproval of Trump to specific events. Other public polls have shown Trump’s disapproval rating in the low- to mid-50s and have not tracked a rise since the Manafort conviction and Cohen guilty plea.

Trump has tried to rally support for Republican candidates in the Nov. 6 elections by pointing to his economic record. This week’s poll finds that despite the president’s unpopularity with voters, he gets better ratings when it comes to the economy: 45 percent of Americans approve and 47 percent disapprove of Trump’s handling of the economy.

Trump’s overall popularity breaks down along lines of partisanship, ethnicity and gender, according to the poll. While 78 percent of Republicans approve of his performance, 93 percent of Democrats and 59 percent of independents disapprove. More men support him than women, and while 45 percent of whites back him, 19 percent of nonwhites approve.

The poll finds that there are clear limitations to Trump’s efforts all summer to politicize and discredit the Russia investigation. The president has fired a near-daily barrage of tweets labeling the probe a “witch hunt” and attacking the credibility of Mueller and several current and former Justice Department officials.

But 63 percent of Americans support Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, with 52 percent saying they support it strongly; 29 percent oppose the probe.

Opinions on Mueller’s work also break down on partisan lines, with 61 percent of Republicans opposing the probe but an even larger 85 percent of Democrats expressing support. Among independents, however, a two-thirds majority of 67 percent back the investigation.

Trump has complained that Manafort was treated unfairly by Mueller’s prosecutors, and after a jury convicted Manafort earlier this month the president tweeted that he felt “very badly” for him.

But 67 percent of Americans think Mueller’s case against Manafort was justified, while 17 percent say it was unjustified, according to the poll.

...

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Trump’s praise of Manafort has stirred speculation that he might pardon his former campaign chairman, but the poll finds that it would be a political land mine for the president. Two-thirds of Americans oppose Trump pardoning Manafort — 53 percent strongly oppose it — and 18 percent support a pardon.

Trump has ratcheted up his public attacks on Sessions in recent weeks and has consulted his personal attorneys and other advisers about firing the attorney general, whom he has viewed as insufficiently loyal after Sessions recused himself last year from overseeing the Russia investigation because of a conflict of interest.

But the public is squarely behind Sessions. Sixty-four percent of Americans do not think Trump should fire Sessions, with 19 percent saying he should and 17 percent saying they have no opinion. Nearly half of Republicans, 47 percent, say Trump should not fire the attorney general, with 31 percent saying he should.

Just under a quarter of Americans, 23 percent, say they agree with Trump’s criticisms of Sessions for allowing the Mueller investigation to proceed, while 62 percent say they side with Sessions, who has said he is following the law.

Two-thirds of Americans say they had read or heard at least some of the news about Cohen’s guilty plea to eight violations of banking, tax and campaign finance laws, though less than a quarter heard “a great deal” about the news.

Cohen told a federal judge last week that before the 2016 campaign, then-candidate Trump directed him to pay off two women to keep their stories of alleged affairs with Trump from becoming public.

The poll finds that 61 percent of Americans think that Trump committed a crime if he did direct Cohen to make the payments, while 31 percent say he did not commit a crime.

Democrats are hoping to retake control of one or both houses of Congress in November’s elections. If they do, party leaders will face pressure from their energized base to use congressional oversight committees to investigate potential misconduct by the president and his administration, as well as perhaps begin impeachment proceedings.

The survey finds a clear partisan divide on the issue. While 75 percent of Democrats say Congress should begin impeachment hearings, 82 percent of Republicans say lawmakers should not. Among independents, 49 percent support impeachment while 46 percent oppose it.

The Post-ABC poll was conducted among a random national sample of 1,003 adults reached on conventional and cellphones; the margin of sampling error for overall results is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

That’s all I wanted/needed r305. Thanks!

So Patten, who some are claiming has no direct tie to Trump, was funneling oligarch money into Trumps inaugural committee......sounds connected to me ......and he also lied to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

On the upside, if theyre investigating those that lied to Congress, there is going to be a lot of nervous nellies in DC this weekend.

....and it makes you ask, where did the 25 million that was paid to Melanias friend really go ?

President Fatass is trying to strongarm Canada again. The only country that lies between the USA and Russia.

No Matter How Bad It Gets, Trump Will Never Give Up

We’ve been thinking about Trump as a world-class narcissist, but really, his psychological afflictions are slightly more specific, and this distinction can give us insight into the months ahead.

WHAT ever happened to the female prostitute who claimed to have knowledge of a yacht conversation where Putin’s oligarch friends discussed election meddling on Trump’s behalf?

TR292: Michfest fatty

R292 that is

Mueller She Wrote said that she gave her materials (recordings) to the oligarch, and it's up to him to tell what happened (I guess she was paid).

R320 was for R317.

From Vanity Fair's "Hive" podcast

Thanks, R320, R319, R318 - I wondered what happened.

Hmmm...

Hopefully the finished all they needed to do.

Fingers crossed.

Stepford Ivanka at R234 looks like her neural network has been shut down, not her web page.

[quote]She calls herself Kristall Night.

This has to be a reference to Kristallnacht, of course. Creepy fuckers.

She does have that "must have this recipe" gaze, r327.

Trump will declare victory and walk away if he is deserted by the assholes who keep advising and encouraging him to fight. At some point as more and more charges and guilty pleas come forth, and the tide of pubic opinion hardens, and guys like Giuliani and others start backing away. There will be incontrovertible evidence that Trump is a traitor and a man who will throw anyone under a bus, he has no loyalty to anyone. Once all of the chickens come home to roost and he is completely isolated, he will become ill, and resign. (After making a deal with Mueller.) The only thing his lawyers will be able to advise him to do is make a deal. His lawyers will be confronted with too much evidence to keep paying these stupid PR games.

I don’t think Trump will passively step down. I can see him pardoning his family, maybe; but most importantly himself, as a way of saying “FU” to the system. Knowing that it will go to the courts, and he might drag it out for years, and hope the government gives up. He’s not leaving unless he can feel like he’s getting something over on his enemies, which are most people. Maybe all people.

I hope he has a CIA induced illness. Maybe fall off the Truman balcony? Break his pelvis and Melania puts him in a nursing home. I'm convinced she sees her task as out lasting him . Wives get the most benefits. Unless of course he is stripped of her assets.

I think Trump will be okay in the courts.

But, but......Mr. Kavanaugh!

Trump is a puppet of Putin. totally. As soon as the right people understand that he will never resign and he will use any means at his disposal to avoid prosecution no matter how much exposure the media gives his crimes, then the right people will either do the right thing, or some other country will.

R335, I think you’ve hit on something. Our intelligence community can’t act on this, but maybe Her Majesty's Secret Service? Or the Dutch? I bet the French have an awesome secret service. Someone needs to create an online petition.

Trump needs to be “put on the wall” to use current The Handmaid’s Tale parlance.

The whole Trump family would jump to smear the name of a good person...simply because they are cold blooded and enjoy it. These grifters have invaded the hearts of our most ignorant and foolish citizens. The fools should be condemmened every day.

r314 Some of it went to Mark Burnett, the guy protecting the Apprentice tapes, for his "consulting" work during the festivities.

[quote]there is going to be a lot of nervous nellies in DC this weekend.

So like any other weekend in DC.

condemmened? R338?

WTF did Burnett, that fucking asshole, consult on for that fiasco? How to inflate crowd numbers?

Burnett is the primary reason I wish we still had community punishments like the stocks or a whipping post.

I have no idea what he actually did. The payments went to Burnett's "team" after Trump asked they be involved. I can't find any article, and never have, which describes what they actually did. Burnett claims he personally got none of the money. Which. Sure. Of course he didn't.

All Burnett did was keep the apprentice tapes under wraps. Shit is going to get real very soon. Roma should bust out the rosary.

Is this one of you? If so, thanks.

Follow the money. The inaugural committee is organized crime - just like everything else the Trump family is involved with. Stephanie Winston Wolkoff is about to become very infamous.

But nothing Trump does is a crime... according to his goons, I mean, lawyers.

It was pointed out that Trump is not on the ballot in November and nothing can be construed as an October Surprise.

Mueller will probably adhere to the Holder memo, but...BUT the SDNY or the EDVA need abide NOTHING.

They could indict Jr, Eric and Ivankie over the Trump Slush Fund. (With Daddy being an unindicted co-conspirator AGAIN!)

La ti da, la ti da...

I hope the hard work of the Parkland students and their peers throughout the US really help make a difference in November. I really do not think the NRA and others have given them a second thought. Shame on them.

R348, doesn't the memo apply to the SDNY and EDVA? They federal jurisdictions... Doesn't the guidance apply?

Rachel is on fire again tonight, breaking down today's Mueller guilty plea and the connection to Cambridge Analytica

Would Rebekah be Kristall?

r352 Rebekah Mercer is definitely crazy enough to be Kristall Night. Whoever Kristall is, she is desperately trying to hide her true identity.

Could someone give some detail on Kristall Night? There was a link provided, but it didn't work for me.

[quote]Ivankie

heh

Some rich female anti-Semite who's involved in politics. There could certainly be more than one such, but Rebekah Mercer is a far right-winger who bankrolled Bannon (as well as Trump), so the shoe fits.

Also Google Margot Sheehan Burns. Not wealthy but has a respectable career in new media. Uses several variants on her real name online. Even though she's been outed before by an antifa website, she seems to think she flies under the radar while hobnobbing with folks like Richard Spencer and writing essays for Counter-Currents, an "intellectual" fascist publishing outfit. She'd probably be blacklisted in NYC if her name got out on a large scale.

Then again, would Rebekah Mercer take a gamble on funding open Nazis and KKK people, using an online name that openly mocks the Holocaust, knowing that if her identity got out it would blow up on her, her father, and all their protegés?

Or is she type who likes to (*tosses hair, licks lips*) take risks?

Rebekah is too crafty to risk that. Behind the scenes her ideology is so hardline that even trump people think she is nuts. But she presents herself as rational and an example of the compassionate conservative to the public at large. She and her father are completely batshit.

R358, that pisses me off. Why do we let people like that have all that money and use it to harm our country, defile out Constitution, and undermine our Democracy? We really need to tighten up our laws.All political campaigns ought to be publicly funded, the campaign season ought to not last longer than six months from start to finish. Every single candidate would have gone through a vetting process and published ten years worth of income tax returns.

we could get all of that, r359, if fuckers would show up and VOTE!!

R359, and they rape our women, too!

It looks like he’ll be wagging the dog in Venezuela, kids!

r350, None of the players in the other districts are politicians.

Except for Trump and the scam slush fund foundation.

People not standing for election 11/2018 cannot be October Surprised..

Who is Stephanie?

Zimbalist, Rose.

I believe things a re definitely coming to a head. Trump is increasingly combative, he's getting more extreme in his behavior and his accusations, he is doing stupid dangerous things that will affect our economy, and picking trade fights with Canada and China is beyond stupid. Really dangerous too. When our European allies announce that they can no longer rely on us for security interests that is an extremely serious thing. I am waiting for Trump to provoke an incident or create one to distract us.

When the only people he listens to are Steve Miller, Bannon, Sean Hannity, Rudy, Roger Stone, and Alex Jones he is nothing but a conspiracy theorist who has no business making policy and having access to our military and national security apparatus. He picked fights with the Kochs , then suddenly everything went quiet. You know very well the Kochs control Congress and they aren't going to give that up. All their talk about supporting Democrats is bullshit. But we've been through it before. We have always had rich people with eccentric views trying to buy their way into politics, ever since the beginning of the industrial age.

Trump is in panic mode because of the way Mueller is setting him up and there's nothing he can do about it. With every batch of fresh indictments and guilty pleas Mueller is signaling Trump about what Mueller knows. I have to wonder if Jared and Donnie Jr. recognize that if Mueller has Person X he must know about all the things that connect the Trumpers to the Russia conspiracy. They have committed treason.

Trump himself knows he is getting bad advice but he can't get better lawyers to work for him. We have to really look at him based on what he has shown us and what we know about him. Trump never willingly accepts defeat. He fights back. And yet he has made deals to cut his losses. Look at Trump university as an example. He will do as much dirt as he can until there is real push back. he gets sued. Once he bumps up against the legal system, and there is no one left to bribe , coerce, or threaten, once his lawyers tell him there is no way out, he makes a deal. Pays a fine and walks away. So I think Mueller believes there has to be a way to get to him. Mueller is building a cage around him.

Trump's instinct is to never admit he is wrong, never appear to give in, bully and throw tantrums until he can go no further, then he makes the deal. So we have a very dangerous period to live through with him. That Lame Duck session between Election Day and January 3rd is going to be harrowing to say the least. Actually it has already started. He will do whatever he can get away with to stop the Democrats. he sees his path to survival in stopping the Dems from taking the House He will do Anything. If we don't do our jobs we are fucked forever.

R366? It's not a lame duck session if we don't flip the House. Just sayin'.

r367 Yes it is. Every period between election day and January 3rd (when the new congress is seated) is considered a lame duck session regardless of which party holds the congress.

CIndy at the Vietnam War Memorial, laying a wreath and having a private moment with John (or John's spirit).

Megan crying uncontrollably again.

What else is new?

Americas Quarterly Editor in Chief Brian Winter:

Momentum gathering around some kind of US military action in Venezuela: Rubio, as well as some in DC bureaucracy openly discussing now. A friend with high-level DC contacts told me recently “I’m afraid they’re gonna do something crazy.”

(This follows Marco Rubio saying there's a "very strong" argument to be made for considering a military option in Venezuela.)

Rubio is a total lightweight. Trump was right about that.

Better Venezuela than North Korea. Better Venezuela than Peoria.

it infuriates me that a small time thug running a rogue nation whose economy is in the toilet has played our country and stuck us with this ratfucking pice of shit.

[quote]When the only people he listens to are ... Sean Hannity,

Actually I think Trump and Hannity have the same masters.

Trump has become Hannity's puppet. It goes straight from Sean Hannity's mouth to Trump's twitter feed. Trump didn't even know who Bruce Ohr was before Hannity started reporting his own fabricated conspiracy theories. It was Hannity who started trashing Ohr and doing character assassination, then Trump followed suit. Hannity is the Mayor of Munchkinville to the Deplorables. He tells them NYT , WAPO, and CNN are all lying, fake news, not to believe their stories and ONLY believe only what he says. Again, it's where Trump got it. So the Deplorables don't even read or watch any other news outlets. They stay within their bubble - and Hannity's influence. Yes, Trump needs to go, but it's equally important to get rid of Hannity as well, (and his ilk at FOX), otherwise another Trump will just pop up in his place.

Probably not a big deal...

Trump's week of fiction....

R376 Yeah, it could mean nothing. They could have each been hired for very specific parts of the investigation, completed their jobs, and left. I suspect hey could be brought back if necessary.

I hope he watched every moment of McCain's funeral, gnashing his gross veneers, and that Ivanka felt like melting into the floor like the bad witch she is.

Lindsey has taken up with the joker.

NO, sometimes the way it works is Trump has Hannity start the drumbeat and the he appears to take it up. HAnnity likesthis arrangement because occasionally he gets credit for "breaking" news and Trump then follows up with an investigation or wild accusations. The attacks are definitely coordinated. Usually Hannity is consulted when Trump is trying to get ahead of bad news. Hannity advises him and is a resource on the latest wild conspiracy theories. But the Ohr story came ut of Trump and Pompeo, and other then Hannity appeared to break the story.

Pompous Pompeo. Such a perfect, fitting name for that colossal asshole!!

R381 I truly believe Trump wouldn't be where he is without the help of Fox News, with Hannity their ringleader. He, Tucker Carlson, and that cunt Laura Ingraham are the only "news" shows the Deplorables watch. And the despise Shep Smith. The only one who delivers real news and tells the truth. I wonder how he's been able to hold on to his job.

[quote]I truly believe Trump wouldn't be where he is without the help of Fox News,

Fox is carrying the water now, but don't let CNN and MSNBC off the hook for getting him into the presidency in the first place. I swear MSNBC carried more of his primary speeches live than Fox and CNN put together. I remember Joy Reid getting testy on air because TPTB were forcing her to cede her show time to a Trump campaign appearance.

you think the deplorables would be tired of slaving away all day while the republican cabal is freeloading off them and don’t even realize it.

Then they want to take away their healthcare and retirement and send all their jobs overseas.

Why do they sop up one scam after another and not realize they are shootings themselves in the foot.

[quote]I remember Joy Reid getting testy on air because TPTB were forcing her to cede her show time to a Trump campaign appearance.

Wasn't that Melissa Harris-Perry, who ended up quitting over it?

You know, featuring Trump every single day, video clips from his latest outrageous pronouncements , etc can desensitize people. Eventually a mental fatigue sets in and people begin to accept the unacceptable as commonplace. I have begun rationing my TV news intake. I'm still getting my news via twitter feeds. So I get the general headlines, and now and then I'll read an article, but the nightly obsession of three or four hours a night of cable news is over. I just cannot do it. Now I limit myself to three hours a week, if that. I never want to "get used to " Trump and I refuse to consider him POTUS. He is illegitimately occupying this WH. Hopefully he'll be gone soon.

This Patten/ Manafort thing is a lot bigger than it looks, especially focusing on the huge "slush" fund Trump created with his inaugural committee. Metaphorically it seems as if Mueller has planted a sea of icebergs for Trump's bloated ship of state and they're going to rip out his guts and sink him.

I was amused at the discussion on MSNBC a few days ago about how lean his staff is. Trump has not fully staffed his White House and either it's paranoia on his part because he needs to control everything, or he can't find people who want to work there. I think it may be both. He probably has recommendations from people in Congress, but the ones who are recommended say, "No thanks."

R387 There was speculation Hopie Hicks was coming back since she was spotted on Air Force One. Or maybe she was just wearing a wire? It doesn't seem like she'd go down with the ship for him.

Meanwhile Dump accused Huckabeast of having a "nervous breakdown" over Dump putting the WH flag back to full mast while the rest of DC and the nation had flags at half mast for McCain.

I have this fantasy, maybe it's a good movie plot, a black comedy/satire but anyway, the President is just exactly like DT, and his Chief of Staff is exactly like Kelly and the CoS walks into his office towards the end, and shoots him. It could happen....for God & Country.

I'm trying to imagine Huckabeast in the throes of a nervous breakdown, bleating, braying, sweating...

Watched Florida Democratic Governor nominee,Mayor Gillum of Tallahassee with Joy Reid this morning and I loved what he said about De Santis the Monkey Man. He said, " My momma used to say that if you're gonna mud wrestle with a pig you're both gonna get dirty, but just remember, the pig likes it!"

Just be advised: Huckabeast's nervous breakdown is going to feature violent attacks of flatulence.

R387 "This Patten/ Manafort thing is a lot bigger than it looks, especially focusing on the huge "slush" fund Trump created with his inaugural committee."

Yes, I totally Agree!

So many stories come out, seem to be huge in their importance, and then are conveniently forgotten once another bombshell takes it's place. It's very important we keep track of some of these stories and don't allow them to fall by the wayside.

For example, the story about evidence strongly suggesting that the Russian Oligarchs financed many Republican campaigns, (including Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and maybe Lindsay Graham), by funneling/laundering money through the NRA. It's why so many of the Repugs are standing by Trump. They're being blackmailed as well.

All that shit will come out R394. Mueller's report is gonna give people in the halls of power in DC and elsewhere a serious and calamitous case of explosive diarrhea.

R394 Lindsey Graham's PAC received over $800.000 from one oligarch source. Delete the maybe.

[quote]It doesn't seem like she'd go down with the ship for him.

She would for Ivanka though.

Besides, it's not hard to believe is it? She's a woman who has chosen to be with a man accused of beating two of his former partners?

800,000k and she still lives in a shack.

[quote]I have this fantasy, maybe it's a good movie plot, a black comedy/satire but anyway, the President is just exactly like DT, and his Chief of Staff is exactly like Kelly and the CoS walks into his office towards the end, and shoots him. It could happen....for God & Country.

Sort of a "Murder on the Orient Express", but in the White House instead.

The National Enquirer story is also very important, possibly more than people realize. Many of us suspect the Russians have Kompromont on the Republicans as well as Trump himself. But it might NOT be the Russians, (or JUST the Russians), the Enquirer could have had all types of that shit as well in their safe. They could be the ones blackmailing the Repubs who are standing by Trump, (or he has informed certain "allies" he has info on them so they better stand beside him!).

Pecker sounds quite suspicious with his motives and tactics.

Trump sure has extensive connections to shady characters. Yet, he claimed he was going to surround himself with the best and brightest and would have the most honest administration ever. More than half his Cabinet are corrupt or incompetent. His judge nominees are basically corporate lackeys.

Headline after Mueller report: "Almost entire Repug party financed by Russia" including Dump.

[quote]Just be advised: Huckabeast's nervous breakdown is going to feature violent attacks of flatulence.

Flatulence if we're lucky.

I thought her press conferences were already all about the flatulence.... now I feel really bad for the WH housekeeping / cleaning crew for when SHS will really lose her shit.

She's a shitshead anyway so maybe she will just implode.

Let's take guesses as to which Republican politicians are NOT taking Russian money, whether directly or through sources like the NRA (and by now they have to know that's coming ultimately from Russia). Obviously most of the local and state legislators; in DC maybe Susan Collins? They probably don't trust her to stay bought any more than we trust her to be "moderate." The ones who have called it a day, like Flake and Corker? Then again some of them, e.g. Chaffetz, might have bailed partly because they knew they were guilty. This is a hard one!

[quote]WHAT ever happened to the female prostitute who claimed to have knowledge of a yacht conversation where Putin’s oligarch friends discussed election meddling on Trump’s behalf?

Locked up and awaiting trial in Thailand. Sounds like Russia managed to shut her up good.

CNN's Bakari Sellers commenting on Lindsey Graham kowtowing to Trump.

Did Sarah give the dotard her famous stink-eye?

R408 What does it matter if she continues to do Dotard's bidding?

The Republican Party has been rotting from its core for the past 40 years. The rot has finally reached the surface.

EVERY elected Republican is touched. The one bad apple 40 years ago finally rotted away the entire party.

Thank you Reagan.

R409, I keep wondering why she hasn't been fired yet. My guess is he can't find anyone else.

R411 He also knows she would toe the line of the patriarch because that's how she was raised. But yeah if someone else catches his fancy who wants the job, she's gone.

If it wasn't for Fox News brainwashing the stupid, there would not be a Republican Party.

The modern GOP has ALWAYS been rotten and racist and a negative force in the world. They've opposed almost every single move forward in improving the human condition. The last good thing I can think of that came from a Republican was Nixon's creation of the EPA. Since then, I've got either nothing or half-measures in place of what needed to be done, at best.

This fucker is going to get his tax cut, has removed the mandate for Obamacare which will kill it by making the pricing unmanageable, he's going to get two people on the Supreme Court, and he's stacked the entire federal court system for the next 30 years. Even if he goes down now, how did they not already fucking win?

I'm having a bad fucking year and can't find any hope that these things are going to get better. The worst parts of what's already been done won't even have their full effects felt until next year. Someone convince me that even if Mueller takes them all down that it fucking matters at this point. Unless everything that's been done under this criminal piece of shit and his cabal of idiots can be systematically and thoroughly reversed, it will be at least a decade or two before things can be fixed and by that time the idiots in this country will have voted in another fucking Repug anyway. I hate this fucking country and the idiots that fill 75% of it.

R415 with the Democrats taking over Congress, they can reverse a lot of what Trump has done in a flash. They just need to make it veto proof. The pundits are saying that Clare McCaskill in Missouri is in trouble, her race is tight. And the race between nelson and Scott in Florida is another that is tight. We cannot afford to lose any seats in the Senate. We have to keep what we have and hopefully try to pick up a couple. We may not take the Senate but we could close the gap. Mitch McConnell is walking around smug as if he isn't worried. I want to push that fucker into the mud. I want these to be his last weeks as Majority Leader. He is rotten through and through and I will never forgive him for the way he treated Obama. He's a dirty whoor!

Having a majority in the Senate would be excellent, r416, so I’ll momentarily join you in imagining McConnell as the Minority Leader. Feels good.

We really need to GOTV in the midterms, because neither the Senate nor the house is safely turning blue. The next two months leading up to the vote are pivotal. I feel as though these elections are one of the threads that matter most in the Russia investigation, because Republican majorities have demonstrated they cannot conduct oversight nor investigations in good faith.

The Repugs are acting too much like they know something the rest of us don't as far as the midterms are concerned. I didn't like the results of the most recent primaries. Less electable Dems coming from 16% to capture the win. The least crazy of the Repugs winning the Arizona primary.

I was just wondering today if something big is going to happen before the midterms. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a "terrorist" attack. Trump could declare a national emergency and "delay" the election.

His reichstag moment, r419. Hitler did it .

I think it’s more likely we’ll see some “breakthrough” deal with North Korea that paints Trump and the Republicans as triumphant and contrasts the “bad” Obama Iran deal. Of course, it’ll all be bullshit, but it will work with a lot of people who want to see Trump as reasonable.

He keeps yammering about invading Venezuela.

President Fatass is too busy trolling the USA's biggest trading partner. Justin is prettier and smarter, and dotard is jealous because his creepy daughter wants to get into Justin's pants.

[quote]He keeps yammering about invading Venezuela.

Well that's one country where the US should be [bold]butting in[/bold] because Latin America is connected to us through land. Instead we are wasting our money in places like Pakistan.

The US should have military bases in Honduras and Venezuela.

Clueless fat military chick with daddy issues^

[quote] Trump could declare a national emergency and "delay" the election.

He can't delay the elections. State elections all have their own processes.

Who knows what happens if the dotard proclaim martial law, R426? I have a feeling that the generals have had to sit on him a few times already but, if ordered, they have to do what he says...however slowly they might proceed.

Speaking of Russia having Trump "over a barrel," I read this morning that we have a misguided idea of what is on the alleged "P" tapes Putin has on Trump. It's been rumored that the "P" does not stand for the phonetic "Pee, " but rather pedophilia. Sources say that Putin has Trump on tape f#cking girls who are under age of consent. Again, all of this is alleged, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. All Trump's "grab 'em by the pussy" crap, his lewd comments about a 12 yr old Paris Hilton and his own daughter, his purposeful walking in on pageant contestants, etc. . . He clearly has little, if any, moral ground to stand on, and IF Putin does have Trump committing pedophilia on tape, that would givethe Russians far more leverage than having taped Trump's perverted acts with prostitutes.

Sadly, I'm sure most of Trump's delightfully intelligent, morally upstanding Christian supporters would still find a way to forgive and reverie him or refuse to believe that any such evidence is factual.

R428: all true; also let's not forget...the journalist that Putin murdered with polonium, Alex Litvinenko, had published articles calling Putin a pedophile.

I was unaware that the term "pee tapes" originated as an interpretation of an abbreviation "P tapes" (one that could be interpreted in other ways). Presumably it's just a cutesy term created because the tapes show T-Rump enjoying the sight of hookers peeing on Obama's former hotel bed.

Of course, that doesn't mean T-Rump hasn't been involved with underaged girls somehow.

[quote]It's been rumored that the "P" does not stand for the phonetic "Pee, " but rather pedophilia.

A modeling agency and a beauty pageant sure are handy things to own when you creep on girls.

[quote]Sadly, I'm sure most of Trump's delightfully intelligent, morally upstanding Christian supporters would still find a way to forgive

The girls were asking for it, they were almost 18, look at how they dressed . . .

Look. They seized control, however they did it. Through fraud, suppression gerrymandering, etc. Been attempting this for years. They will not give it up easily. They a re going to fight like dogs to hold what they have and keep advancing. Politics is war. They will get real dirty and this is going to be a real ugly election. So the Dems have to be prepared for that. If necessary, they have to win ugly.

R417 is absolutely correct. Don't think this is a routine election and our "blue wave" is going to triumph. Don't think that there is anything normal about this election, because there isn't. Close elections are easier to steal. Some of these ought to not be close. In a lot of cases, the GOP has attempted to choose their opponent. They have some nominees for Congress who are being touted as "too far to the Left." and of course there's the race issue too. So electability has become an issue. Ignore it. Vote for the Democrat. If the Democrat is a Cocker Spaniel vote for it! If they got a ticket for drunk driving 20 years ago vote for the Democrat.

Be prepared for lies, smearing, mudslinging, false accusations, even acts of violence. And definitely be prepared for an "October surprise" Remember. There is no Republican drawing breath that is in a position to accuse any Democrat of corruption or anything else really. So it they want to start some shit, be ready to do it to them first. I repeat: Be ready to do it to them first. The Republicans should never gain the advantage by choosing the subject or setting the terms of the discussion or of addressing issues.

Our opposition research has to be absolutely thorough and well timed. These people aren't that smart. They are arrogant and they live in a bubble. So it shouldn't be that difficult to expose them. Our ads have to be punchy, memorable, hard hitting and humorous where appropriate. Don't forget humor in this race. It's important to win your audience and get them energized, not always with fear, we have enough fear for 100 elections. But humor.

And we must make sure our people are registered and get out to vote. They are "purging" voting rolls. You may think you'e registered, but you better check and keep checking. Bring all kinds of ID with you. Know the rules. Keep track of the polling places. Sometimes they will change a voting location at the last minute. Be ready. Don't be surprised by anything they do. We can argue with them later, but on election day deal with the real world situation and VOTE!! Get other people out too. If anyone is unsure of their availability on election day, then find out what the rules are for voting absentee, or for early voting. We have to show them that all these marches we've had over the past two years were just a preview. Most of all, remember:All politics is local. Do not forget to vote for your state court judges, your state legislatures and your governors. We really need to flip the state houses too. It's critical.

Psychologically they will attempt to discourage people and demoralize too.

Speaking style---inflection, volume changes, tone, allusions, vocabulary, directness, humor---play a great part in the making of a political leader, not merely a politician.

No current female politician has "it." Obama and Bill Clinton still have it, but Hillary never did. Joe Biden is comfortably avuncular, but not cut-throat enough. JoeK3 will probably grow into a leader, but he needs some elocution, or perhaps hortatory, lessons.

You know who has the requisite articulateness, forthrightness, intelligence, projected strength, and charisma? Yes, you do know. Michael Avenatti.

Trump, Jeffrey Epstein and Tom Barrack used to go out trawling for girls together all the time. Funny how the loonies on the Datalounge are always shrieking about Epstein and everyone other than Trump. Donald Trump spent more time with Jeffrey Epstein than almost anyone.

This is not a problem for Rethuglicans, they think it's just fine. That tells you everything you need to know about today's Rethuglican Party. They are morally bankrupt and ethically unsound.

Miz Lindz inviting Jared & Ivanka to McCain's funeral is quite a pompous act. Sure he phoned Cindy to tell her; but it is still stepping beyond normal boundaries.

Avenatti's great, unfortunately he has no experience in government of any kind.

[quote] No current female politician has "it." Obama and Bill Clinton still have it, but Hillary never did.

Team Sanders bullshit. A 4-million-strong “secret” Facebook Group (Pantsuit Nation) said otherwise. Women of all races, along with black people of both genders and gay men, were plenty excited. My sister dressed up her toddler son and daughter in pantsuits to go vote, and I wore suffragette white myself. Women were plenty excited but this didn’t fit the Sanders fake-left progressive narrative because she wasn’t a MAN. Fuck that. I was excited and remain heartbroken that the election was literally stolen from her, and from us, we the people.

Same, r438

Same, r438

No to Putty assets. That includes Sanders, Stein, Graham, and Rand P.

Anyone else curious about the 100 prosecutors that Rosenstein summoned to DC at the end of July supposedly to vet Kavanaugh ? I dont buy that lame excuse as its unprecedented and highly unusual......Theyre still there.....I think something BIG is coming, SOON.

R437

Hahahahahaha. So what?

The NRA and the jet fuel payday:

I like Hillary and think she's more than capable, but she doesn't have "it." Her speeches look rehearsed to within an inch of their life, and she still doesn't come off natural. Remember when she was trying to laugh more during interviews in the 2008 primaries? Awkward! There's just something about her that doesn't translate. Obama makes it looks effortless.

Giuliani tells The New Yorker that he's "sure" the White House will invoke executive privilege to stop the release of parts of Special Counsel Robert Mueller‘s report on the Russia investigation.

hmmm, that certainly isn't the behavior of someone who is innocent, r446.

they long ago abandoned the "innocence" gambit

David Frum Retweeted Donald J. Trump

It never happened => It happened, but we didn't seek stolen info => We sought stolen info, but didn't get any => Anybody would have done it => Ok, but it's not a crime.

"I like Hillary but..."

Sounds like it was written by someone at a troll farm.

"Hillary is qualified but..."

Hillary didn't sound rehearsed to death for me. She's extremely smart and knows what the hell she's talking about. Remember the Benghazi hearings? Bitch knew every date and detail without having to look at a note.

r446 I hope the collective response to Rudy was hearty laughter because that's all the putz is good for.

I'm sure if Mueller writes a report and the White House tries to stop it it won't be leaked within minutes.

R446's link summarizes a point from this Jeffrey Toobin piece in the New Yorker. Worth a read.

Wonder if Rudy goes as Trudy to the 666 5th Ave. Cigar Club?

Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillas?

We've taken to calling Rudy by his mob name: "Jumpy" Guiliani

Mob names a la 'Goodfellas' should be applied to all Trump's henchmen. Names under mugshots, could go viral and stick. All those who know what's good for them and defer to Donnie Two Scoops.

R454 - there is an idea for a sketch, a la Goodfells at the Bamboo Lounge.

"I get two scoops, two scoops."

What's moving this?

R438, I voted for HRC, and have the official campaign etched wine glass to prove it. I loathe Bernie Sanders. He's like the vocal anti-unions guy who nonetheless takes the hard-won benefits.

But if you think Hillary has charisma, well then, I give up.

Well then we can just agree to disagree, R457.

Wow his current disapprove is over FIFTY FOUR PERCENT.

R436, I think Lindsey probably told Cindi he was in a real awkward position and those nasty little NYC kids practically insisted. In fact, Jared had Lindz against the wall. What was he to do??? (I mean after that, what was he to do.)

I really would love it if Beto O’Rourke could beat Ted Cruz in November.

Another funny song parody by Randy Rainbow to the tune of If I only had a heart.

R455 I feel exactly the opposite. Obama always sounded fake to me like a fancy preacher. Hillary is old school for sure, she doesn't rant or rave. Not for the reality show that some people want in place of real politics.

r456 What's moving this is that every day more people realize what a vile monster Trump is.

Sorry r438, I voted for HIllary so don't start that "Berniebro" crap with me, but even though I voted for her, I never felt Hillary had the charisma that her husband and Obama had. She just doesn't. You can tell that they relish retail politicking; they really enjoyed it, while it never came as easy for Hillary. There's nothing wrong with that, most politicians don't have "it", and a good many of them do just fine.

I will say one thing that I did feel was true. Hillary may not be a campaigner on the level of Bill or Barack Obama, but I feel she would have been a fine, strong, competent president if she had made it to the office.

New Krugman opinion piece. If they retain the House, pre-existing conditions are no longer protected.

Paul Allen donated to a PAC for the Repugs to retain the House. Another fucking fake liberal. He's disgusting and I am SICK of their greed. Down with all these fat cats. They are a cancer on our political system. They have too much power.

Why did Chuck Schumer let all those judicial appointments go through? Why is he so ineffective at the moment?

r468....Just what exactly is he supposed to do....Democrats are the MINORITY in BOTH houses. That means we have next to no options other than being vocal and trying to change the minds of certain GOP members.

Randy go do your failed promos elsewhere. You're not wanted here.

Exactly r469, elections have consequences.

Maybe someday people will realize that.

Wait a second... the trolls must be back. This thread is greyed out for some reason?

Something must be breaking soon then...

And like last time, if you all like these threads we have to WW it to ungrey it.

Chuck Schumer is NO Harry Reid.

We need a Harry Reid.

Donnie Two-Scoops and Robert Mueller's RICO Intervention.

The picture also disappeared from the OP. I guess those unflattering photos of Dotard really do bother him!!!

[quote] pre-existing conditions are no longer protected.

Correct. You'll still be able to buy insurance (continue to give the insurance companies money) but they won't pay for any pre-existing conditions.

I think trolls are hitting the Freaks & Flames on OP. Seriously.

Give OP a Wit and Wisdom, folks. Enough with this fuckery.

I've noticed a huge upswing in troll activity over the past few days. Especially racist ones.

election season kicks off today.

vlad's adding the third shift in vladivostok.

Ah makes total sense now. It's like they activated the start of the troll semester.

[quote] Speaking of Russia having Trump "over a barrel," I read this morning that we have a misguided idea of what is on the alleged "P" tapes Putin has on Trump. It's been rumored that the "P" does not stand for the phonetic "Pee, " but rather pedophilia.

I’ve travelled to Europe with a Gay group a few times. The leader made a point of emphasizing that there are gangs that arrange for a guy to pickup tourists. Then the gang breaks into your room, catching you In flagrante, and it turns out, the guy is underage. Then they blackmail you.

That’s just the gangs. Imagine these secret police! I think that’s how Carter Page got compromised. So, it works not surprise me at all, if that’s the deal.

[quote] R427: Who knows what happens if the dotard proclaim martial law...

I bet Gov. Jerry Brown would call up the CA National Guard to faceoff against any Federal troops. Likewise in a few other Blue states. It wouldn’t take too much like that before the Feds back down and arrest Trump. I cant even see it coming to a fight.

So Carter Page is gay and an ephebophile?

^^ um.... like that is a surprise?

I think so, R484. I forget where I heard something that made me think this. I think it was MSNBC. The reporter listed Republicans and their possible compromat, and then mentioned Carter Page but just skipped over his compromat. I’ve heard them do this kind of thing before. It suggested to me that it’s something everybody in DC knows, but no one reports because they lack a second source, or feel it isn’t germane.

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s daughter has filed to officially change her last name, apparently to distance herself from her father in the wake of his criminal conviction. Jessica Manafort, 36, reportedly filed the paperwork in Manhattan Supreme Court late Friday. “I would like my new name to be Jessica Anne Bond, in place of my present name,” Manafort said in the legal filing, according to the New York Post. She reportedly chose Bond, her mother’s maiden name, because it “more closely suits [her] profession.” She told the Post she’d decided on the name change “to separate myself and my work from a public perception that has nothing to do with the person that I am.” Her father was found guilty last month of eight counts of tax fraud and bank fraud, and he faces a second trial in Washington, D.C. later this month.

What does Ms. Bond do as a profession?

R476 Unconscionable!

Get Sick Go Bankrupt, and Die by Krugman

R488 She's an independent film maker.

R465, great that you feel that way, but clearly many of us even on this thread found her very charismatic, so you’ll just have to accept that many people didn’t buy the “she’s not charismatic” line and felt very differently to you. I was fucking excited about her as a president and like someone posted above, Obama’s (whom I liked and for whom I volunteered, twice) delivery rang false to me. One man’s cringey populism is another man’s charisma; one man’s sincerity is another man’s “boring”: we all respond to different things. Accept it that many people feel differently.

I feel differently, too!

R492

Dies

Rudy's latest claim is that the President will have a legitimate right to claim executive privilege and stop the Mueller report from getting published. I don't think they can get away with that. The reason I don't is because all the stuff in that report, or much of it will already be spelled out by media reports or by the very specific charges in the indictments. Personally I think two things have sent Trump over the edge: Cohen's raid the charges against him and his guilty pleas. That's one package. And the specificity of the charges against the 12 GRU agents is the other. Because by Mueller announcing those indictments just a couple of days before Trump met with Putin it had to put a huge strain on their meeting.

The recent exposure of Ohr's work within the FBI Counter Intel program was another nail in the coffin. Because it has to cause Putin to take a second look at some of the people he thinks he can trust. If you're a Russian Oligarch, and you're close to Putin, you might be getting a little nervous thinking one of you may have been flipped. Mueller is a fucking genius hero. All the shit we wanted congress to do, all the toughness is there, in Mueller. Now if you can put aside your discussion about Hillary for a moment, can we please talk about the recent developments and what they mean and where this may be going? Because IMO Mueller has Putin in his crosshairs. I hope he has excellent security. The members of Congress who have got fat and Lazy with Russian money, and the weakened NRA must be shitting themselves. Yes, we know Donnie, Jr. Stone, Jared Ivanka may be staring at charges, but there is something else going on here with much broader implications. I'm personally hoping we start seeing some of the members of Congress and the NRA big shots start "falling off balconies."

The president yesterday called for the politicization of criminal investigations and Fox this morning is devoting most of its coverage to Nike and Colin Kaepernick.

WikiLeaks consultant disappears in Norway:

17 protestors have been arrested in the first half hour of the Kavanaugh hearings this morning -- and the Democrats, led by Kamala Harris, are driving the Republicans crazy with interruptions and objections. Excellent!

WikiLeaks consultant disappears in Norway:

pedestrians are advised to walk on the street-side of sidewalks and be alert to falling objects.

Reminder to everyone to WW the OP! Don't let the trolls win!

We might all be wrong about blackmail. Think about Republicans in Congress and what these people want for America: women to have no rights over their own bodies, gays to have no rights whatsoever, no environmental protections, no regulations for business or banking, only the rich being able to afford healthcare, no protections for minorities, children in cages, only white Republicans voting, everything awful you can imagine, etc.

And these are the people we think might be doing the right thing if only they weren't being blackmailed? When have these evil bastards ever done the right thing?

Perhaps the Republicans love Trump because he hates democracy as much as they do and he's destroying it at a faster clip than they ever dreamed possible. And maybe Lindsey changed his tune after a round of golf with trump because he really, really liked all the plans trump laid out.

It's just starting to feel like assuming they're being blackmailed into being horrible is giving them too much credit.

This article should be in this thread, too.

Quotes from Woodword's book are starting to make the rounds on Twitter and they're fabulous. John Kelly called Trump an idiot. This could explain why Dotard has been especially nuts the past few days.

Does Trump keep Kelly after a comment like that? Or is Trump stupid enough to believe Kelly's inevitable claim that it's just fake news? (And does Bob Woodward have receipts?)

Robert Costa @costareports

Read the Woodward book twice. Explosive reporting. Vivid scenes in every chapter. Includes documents, dates, details. Top Trump advisers took papers off of the president's desk to stop him from making decisions. Mattis ignored his order to kill Assad.

[quote]Mattis ignored his order to kill Assad.

???!! This is going to have repercussions.

I'm not sure how much we can quote from an article. This whole thing is worth reading.

From the CNN article: "The book opens with a dramatic scene. Former chief economic adviser Gary Cohn saw a draft letter he considered dangerous to national security on the Oval Office desk. The letter would have withdrawn the US from a critical trade agreement with South Korea. Trump's aides feared the fallout could jeopardize a top-secret national security program: the ability to detect a North Korean missile launch within just seven seconds.... Former staff secretary Rob Porter worked with Cohn and used the same tactic on multiple occasions, Woodward writes."

So who can we assume has been drafting these documents and putting them on T-Rump's desk to sign? Bannon? Miller?

Woodward’s book sounds great. Ordering now.

I came to post the WaPo piece on the Woodward book at r507.

Wow, I can not wait to read that book! Thanks all for posting links.

More WaPo... Woodward recorded the conversation he had with Trump about why he didn't talk to Trump. The best quote from the conversation:

Trump: Yeah, okay. Well, accurate is that nobody’s ever done a better job than I’m doing as president. That I can tell you. So that’s . . . And that’s the way a lot of people feel that know what’s going on, and you’ll see that over the years. But a lot of people feel that, Bob.

[quote]Well, accurate is that nobody’s ever done a better job than I’m doing as president. That I can tell you.

A former truism about insane asylums was that routinely, certain inmates knew themselves to be Napoleon. Evidently that syndrome is still with us.

"I'm an excellent driver." Trump isn't an idiot savant. He is just an idiot. He is truly senile.

[quote]Trump and his legal team did a mock sit-down interview with a fake Special Counsel Robert Mueller - it did not go well. Per the Washington Post, after grilling, Trump exploded, saying: “This thing’s a goddamn hoax” and “I don’t really want to testify.” Later, Trump’s former personal attorney John Dowd told the President to his face about how he’d fare in the real scenario when the President gained confidence in his abilities again. “Don’t testify. It’s either that or an orange jumpsuit,” Dowd reportedly told Trump. “I’ll be a real good witness,” Trump told Dowd, according to Woodward. “You are not a good witness,” Dowd replied. “Mr. President, I’m afraid I just can’t help you.” Dowd resigned the next morning.

Another amazing moment mentioned in the WaPo article: the President of Egypt maliciously expressed his “concern” with the Mueller probe, asking Trump “Are you going to be around?”

r514 Trump's former personal attorney is John Dowd. For some reason it was censored in my original post. In case it is censored again, he is Dowd, first name John.

r516 We now have verification that DL has automatic censorship.

R517, we’ve known this for years, and DL, as a nongovernmental entity, can do what it wants. I do not know why Dowd’s name would be expunged. Surely he’s never heard of DL . . . . Or has he?

I see the phrase "Trump’s former personal attorney John Dowd" in R514.

[quote] see the phrase "Trump’s former personal attorney John Dowd" in [R514].

Me too.

To paraphrase the Trump advisor quotes from the CNN article I just read: "He's a liar and an idiot with the mentality of a fifth grader."

That's honestly not an exaggeration of what is own people are saying.

But omg when I first hit post a "[...]" appeared at the end of my quotation that I HADN'T TYPED. And now it's NOT THERE—it disappeared after I refreshed.

Muriel is a gaslighter.

It also appeared in R520's quotation of me, and then disappeared when I refreshed.

Muriel is coming from INSIDE THE DATALOUNGE.

or somewhere east of the Urals

Maybe Muriel is monitoring us in real time, got embarrassed about censoring John Dowd's name, and decided to stop doing it.

r526 Still being censored. I guess I am receiving Muriel's special attention.

I don't know what's going on with you, but I can see John Dowd's name in the post at R526.

CORRECTION: I can see it after I refresh. Before I refresh, it comes up [...].

Weird, and I apologize.

Trying an experiment.

JOHN DOWD!

r529 No problem. I did some research. It is censored when I use Safari, but not when I use Firefox. This is some weird shit.

a view from the trenches yesterday. I was out delivering yard signs for our local candidate for the house.

I had a list of names and addresses. This is the same sort of list you get when you canvass meaning it has the voters ages and party affiliation on them.

The first thing that struck me was the number of "undecided " that were middle aged white men. Interesting.

On my list was a 90 year old republican. I thought this had to be a joke but the office assured me that the dude had requested a sign if he was on the list. So I deliver this yard sitting the 90 year old and got into a discussion with his 82 year old republican wife.

She said she is disgusted by dump and his vulgar, childish behavior and wishes other countries would tell him "no" (I'm not sure what this was in regards to). She also said she couldn't understand why the repugs weren't doing anything to reign him in. I told her that's why it's important that we vote them all out to get a check on him. She said she didn't see any other way to stop his cray even though it wasn't something she would normally do.

So die hard lifelong repubs are turning against him and are planning to vote against him come November.

Yep, his name appeared as "[...]" when I posted, and then as his name after I refreshed. A curious function indeed. I took screen shots if anyone wants to see them.

By the way, R531, I've been using Firefox.

I'm also using Firefox and haven't noticed anything weird about the name John Dowd before posting here, or in any other post.

Thanks for your hard work, R532. Old Republicans don't turn against their party easily, in my experience, so that's lady's response is interesting.

Oh! I did see it!

That's really strange. It's not like he's especially important or high level or anything.

PREDICTION: The remainder of this thread will be filled with people saying "Of course I can see his name. What's wrong with you people?" then posting right after to admit they were wrong.

[quote]So die hard lifelong repubs are turning against him and are planning to vote against him come November.

Lifelong Repub Tom Nichols is urging his fellow Republicans to "vote against the GOP in every race, at every level in 2018."

After I refreshed Safari several times, the censorship finally disappeared. That bitch Muriel really is gaslighting us.

Did Bob mention Omarosa?

thanks, r536. I feel it's the least I can do since my wonky schedule prevents me from doing canvassing or phone banking.

Her response did interest me. She seemed to be upset by the loss of civility more than anything. Like "it" is an embarrassment to the country. She also said he was trying to destroy the country. It was very interesting.

The enthusiasm was really surprising. For example, I was walking down the street in a typical middle class neighborhood carrying the yard signs and my list when this car started following me. Being in red state hell, I was ready for a fight.

The car follows me for about half a block then pulls up next to me. It's a Lexus and an older man is driving. His very well dressed wife leans over and asks where they can get one of the signs. I told her I'd give her one of mine. She was very excited and they kept thanking me for giving them one instead of telling them to call the office.

The enthusiasm on the streets is real. Even in red state hell. Independents that I spoke to are fed up. And this is a red state. Imagine what a state like Pennsylvania or Florida is feeling.

I like this political cartoon.

Thanks for your work, R542. What state are you in out of curiosity?

Let's try this again. Trump's lawyers are telling Mueller that Trump shouldn't have to testify because he is a pathological liar. Of course, they would never publicly admit this to the American people.

[quote]Trump’s lawyer John Dowd has likewise called his client an idiot. Somewhat more audaciously, he has argued that Trump should not have to testify to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, because the transcript would leak, and foreign leaders would see that Trump is an idiot:

[quote]Dowd then explained to Mueller and Quarles why he was trying to keep the president from testifying: “I’m not going to sit there and let him look like an idiot. And you publish that transcript, because everything leaks in Washington, and the guys overseas are going to say, ‘I told you he was an idiot. I told you he was a goddamn dumbbell. What are we dealing with this idiot for?’”

[quote]Another Trump lawyer, Jay Sekulow, tried to argue to Robert Mueller that Trump could not be asked to give an interview because he is a compulsive liar. They literally explained to Mueller how they conducted a mock interview with Trump, and he was so unable to tell the truth that they considered him mentally disqualified from testifying:

[quote]Jay Sekulow went to Mueller’s office and re-enacted the mock interview. Their goal: to argue that Trump couldn’t possibly testify because he was incapable of telling the truth.

[quote]“He just made something up. That’s his nature,” Dowd said to Mueller.

[quote]It seems somehow unfair to let somebody remain on the job as president because he’s such a compulsive liar he can't be allowed to testify under oath.

Where is our resident stat keeper?

I think this part of the thread might have been the longest we've gone without having to start a new one (minus it looks like part 4 and 5). Has it been a slow news week or are people losing interest or?

R546, nothing explosive happened this week plus it was Labor Day weekend and a lot of people were out doing other things.

Can Kelly possibly keep his job after this? Tillerson didn't after his "fucking moron" comment.

Is this the picture that was removed from the OP? Let's see if it happens again.

R547 I thought it might have to do with Labor Day but we've had other Holidays recently and threads still moved quicker. Just thought it was interesting and wondered if it had to do with trolls flaming the thread and it maybe hidden now for some people?

Isn't Kelly saying Trump is an idiot old news? He did a whole mea culpa without ever actually saying he didn't say it, just like Tillerson did. I bet Trump fired him and Kelly just said, 'Fuck you.' and went back to work. Trump is a coward. He can't get anyone else to fire Kelly, so there he stays.

No R549 the picture was one of Orange making his anus lips.

And if people flagged it just because they didn't like the photo then they're traitors too since they'd rather limit discussion because they're offended by Cheeto's anus mouth.

R551 speaking of his being all talk and a coward.... was there ever confirmation that security clearances were actually revoked?

R545, what I’m getting from that is that Trump is so mentally impaired that he probably cannot manage his own affairs, much less the country’s.

Not exactly a shocker, R554. Although maybe it is to Deplorables.

r554 When he is prepared, reading a teleprompter, or simply repeating his memorized talking points, he sounds reasonably coherent. But when he is dealing with people who tell him "no", or when he is having a conversation without a script, his stupidity, insanity, and dementia are obvious.

I think this is the photo that was in the OP

r557 That looks revoltingly familiar.

Yeah but I have no idea why anyone would FF the thread just for that. Well, unless it was Dotard himself.

[quote]That bitch Muriel really is gaslighting us.

Nah, that sounds too much like work. I just like fucking with you.

Cheeto wanted to kill assad after chemical weapon attack.

A bellicose President Trump wanted to kill Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad after he launched a chemical weapons attack on civilians in April 2017, according to the new White House tell-all by Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.

The commander-in-chief called Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and issued the deadly order.

“Let’s f–king kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the f–king lot of them,” Trump said, according to the book, the subject of a lengthy article in the DC paper on Tuesday.

Mattis told the president that he’d get right on it.

But after hanging up, he told a senior aide: “We’re not going to do any of that. We’re going to be much more measured.”

The president’s national security team then prepared a plan for a conventional airstrike that Trump ultimately ordered.

He really is nothing more than a deranged Toddler.

Generic ballot news.

While Woodward was writing the book, Trump refused multiple requests for an interview. After the book was completed, Trump called Woodward and said he wanted to be interviewed. What a stupid, dishonest, cowardly asshole Trump is.

I love the news of a Democrat surge but the media should also be covering what Russians are planning on doing. I hate that everyone acts like it's not a story.

*And what Rethugs are willing to/going to do to cheat AGAIN.

I can't get excited about the election at all. There's no way I can live through another disappointment like Nov 2016.

I know, Mary!

But it's true. I can't.

R568, I feel the same. i was so depressed! still am...I am not expecting much to be honest.

All you have to do, all you are EXPECTED to do, IS VOTE!

I'll have voted by mail by election day. After work and the gym, I'm going to go to bed early; won't be able to stand it otherwise (the waiting, the anxiety).

You guys are depressing me.

Voting my mail as well.

R572 didn't mean to depress you but I don't think I will ever get over what happened that night.

Someone in one of the other threads described it best:

It felt like a glitch in the matrix.

It wasn't supposed to happen.

I get it. Something about the whole thing felt (and still feels) not only unnatural but unholy.

Yes, R575. Without sounding too over dramatic (too late) things have felt very dark and evil since then. I really feel like that was a moment where I could feel things turn in the universe.

Again, Mary! me all you want.

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out.

^And sorry I had to post it a little early. Probably won't be around later and wanted to make sure someone did.

If someone could please link to the new thread towards the end of this one it'd be much appreciated, thanks!

Miss Lindzey said crap at hearing. Before she said shit, damn, hell, and a few other curse words recently on camera. Concerned the sassy and cussing Miss Lindzey was going to leap over the panel and fall to her knees before Kavanaugh.

Thank you, OP.

The Senatrice really has no shame. I really need to hear more speculation on what they have on her.

And if anyone has any more stories about Rethugs seeing the light, please share them!

Here we go.

Not that facts matter to Rethugs and Deplorables.

I don't distinguish a difference between Republicans and Deplorables.

Link to new thread.

Link to new thread.

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New thread at link below.

What a vile ass-licking freak Miss Lindsey is.

New thread at link below.