A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18) Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41)1) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46) (08/21/18)

Oh, well done, OP! Bravo!

Perfect timing OP!

Thanks OP

Ok ... what does it mean RE: the Manafort jury? Help me, DL!

8 counts of guilt and a mistral on the other 10.

What a bad fucking day for Cheetolini.

Guilty of five counts of tax fraud. What of the other three counts?

guilty on the tax fraud charges

Trump must be stroking out right about now

Guilty on all eight counts!

Counts 1-5 tax evasion. 6 — false statement to bank. 7 - causing unlawful corp camp contrib. 8 - making an excessive campaign contribution.

You're in the shithouse now pal.

Apparently the judge can still declare a mistrial on the entire case if he chooses.

So with an erratic man like Donald Trump charging around the Oval Office, this has to be a really bad day.... he must be unhinged even for him... both bag man in the same afternoon.

I'd almost feel sorry for the staff, except they enable all this, so this is working out very nicely for them.

A mistrial would surely be the last thing the judge would do... sends a terrible message to juries.

R15, Mueller would then get to try the case before a different judge.

Trump will be fine. He's got one of his Klan rallies to attend tonight.

Okay, Daddy, I’m ready for my pardon.

WaPo arrival on Manifort.

Do you think someone is hiding Trump's phone?

Cohen implicates Trump in court!

08.21.2018 The Day of SIXTEEN guilty verdicts.

According to alert I got on my phone, Cohen plead to 8 counts as well.

Something about the number 8.

Meanwhile in other breaking news, Cohens plea deal translates to 5 years and a few months jail time

NY Times article on Manifort verdict.

Michael Cohen says he was directed to violate campaign law at the direction of the candidate. At the same candidate's direction, he said he paid $130,000 to somebody to keep them quiet, which was later repaid by the candidate.

8 is the magic number today... Cohen plead guilty to 8 counts today.

What do you think Rachel Maddow is doing right now?

Jillin' like a villain!

Can he be re-tried on the other 10 counts? It sounds like he can.

r30, flicking the magic almond...

[quote][R30], flicking the magic almond...

That was sort of my thought.

Chris Hayes tweeted that he was glad he took vacation LAST week.

MSNBC stating that it sounds like Judge accepted the 8 counts of guilt and the Mistrial on the other 10.

R30, whatever it is it will take about 30 minutes for her to get to the point.

Yea, R32.

Come on, Omarosa, drop a good one!

Rick Wilson:

Hey @realdonaldtrump

That burning sensation you're experiencing right now is Michael Cohen screwing you like an industrial drilling rig

Omarosa does not release unless Omarosa is the ONLY one in a news cycle.

This cycle is already maxed for this week.

Looks like we caught us another witch.

Drinks on me, OP. Well done.

Rick Wilson is hilarious.

Thank you Mr. Avenatti for your fortitude. Is this the day Republicans get their balls back. This has nothing to do with Russia or the N word. I’ll buy the second round of drinks!

And it's only Tuesday!

I'm not going to watch coverage of the rally, because I'm already sick and don't need to be sicker, but I am...kinda looking forward to the soundbites.

Rick Wilson ‏Verified account @TheRickWilson

Oh, MAN is Trump going to lose his damn mind at the rally tonight.

Brace for massive tweetkakke in the next 24 hours.

I just heard a pundit say now that there was a mistrial on 10 counts he can now be tried on those counts at the State level which obviously means no pardon.

On the serious, if Manafort faces 80 years in prison just for what he's already been convicted of, will they both to retry him for the other counts, especially with a second set of charges hanging over his head.

As an aside, Virginia's lieutenant governor is a former prosecutor in the EDVA. You can see him beaming on Twitter right now.

r33 - I’m pretty sure you meant the magic bean. A clitoris is not shaped like an almond. It’s more like an hooded pea than anything. Perhaps the magic legume would be even more appropriate. Either way, it’s a horrible image to contemplate.

R17 This judge has been anything but predictable

He will be tried in another court anyway. Unless he suddenly dies now, he will die in prison.

R48. yes I think they will retry him. Plus that is if he get the max. He may not get the max of all those counts. I don't expect 80 years.

T-Rump's rally meanderings and tweets will just be his dreary boilerplate: Dems are crooked, Mueller is on a witch hunt, he himself should fire/pardon everyone concerned, etc.

They are talking about impeachment on cnbc, and how the markets will react

I think impeachment is NEXT! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the beginning of this mess and it will get much worse for Trump and his family. Sarah should make sure she has a good attorney.

Wait, the media is actually using the i-word now?

Cohen just left the courthouse and got into the car without speaking with reporters.

@GeorgeTakei

I feel like celebrating. Hmmm. Moscow Mueller or Dark and Stormy Daniels?

I want Jared to hang. I hate him so much! kicking families out of rent controlled apts! Fuck this cunt!

Good times.

OMG, who’s going to tell Rachael that she has to redo her entire show for tonight? Better get Chris Hayes or maybe Richard Engel.

You're welcome R3, R4 etc. Had two titles to choose from and had to guess which would be the story, Cohen or Manafort. May have gambled wrong, ha.

What counts were the jurors deadlocked on?

Clip of Manafort’s lawyer on MSNBC, making brief announcement...about to cry looks like.

@jonathanwaid

"It's starting to look like the truth really is the truth" @JoyceWhiteVance tells @NicolleDWallace.

Did we miss that he also implicated the National Inquirer guy?

Another pundit stated that it looks like Cohen definitely cooperated with the Feds because the sentence he got (5 years?) was way too light for those charges and would only have been given to him if he basically flipped.

Honestly, him saying that Trump told him to pay her off is really all they needed him to do.

If this world was sane, there would be articles of impeachment before the House tomorrow.

he hasn't been sentenced yet, has he? he's facing max of 65 years I heard.

R60 Elizabeth Warren is going to get Jared. She is a woman on a mission.

[quote]If this world was sane, there would be articles of impeachment before the House tomorrow.

Except we don't and instead we're left with a House full of complicit Drumpf lickers.

omarosa is the least of Trump's problem right now LOL.

2 men close to Trump both gonna go to the big house!

Omarosa is an Ace in the hole for the future.

When her book sales drop...

VP Pence is down in his office doing a little jig.

Joaquin Castro looks adorable today. He’s in the studio at CNN.

I just wonder about that R76. Weren't his emails also hacked?

He must be worried that his shared secrets with the Senatrice will be leaked.

I mean, there's a reason a Daddy like him was desperate to meet with a gayling like Rippon.

R75.....

Thanks for the new thread OP, it's perfect!!!

Can someone clear something up for me re: the 10 counts that were declared a mistrial?

If he had been convicted or acquitted would it have meant that he couldn't be tried again at the State level for those same crimes?

r81 The 10 mistrial counts are federal. They cannot be brought in state court.

R82 are you sure about that? Not what their saying on the news.

[quote]Honestly, him saying that Trump told him to pay her off is really all they needed him to do.

He stopped short of saying it was Trump and just said it was a federal candidate but duh. It’s enough for the deputy DA to now seek more evidence (I.e. not just take a convicted felin’s word) in the form of - for instance - accounting records, tax forms, etc etc.

I hope Ivanka is puking on her Jimmy Choo’s right now.

Also, don’t overlook that yesterday Christopher Steele won the defamation case that was brought against him over the dossier.

[quote]He stopped short of saying it was Trump and just said it was a federal candidate but duh.

He means Hillary!!!!

[quote] If this world was sane, there would be articles of impeachment before the House tomorrow.

I don't know what you're talking about

If I were the WaPo / NYT editor, this would be my headline:

All the President's Men... GUILTY!

Cohen is going to jail! Cohen is going to jail!

Thanks OP, you're a treasure!

💕😀👏💑💞👍😍

Shit is going down. I need my source at the Congressional office I interned at to get back from vacation!

The Republican talking point is Trump was vindicated today. Nothing today had anything to do with collusion, so the President has been exonerated and Mueller should stop.

Seriously. That's what every single one of them on Twitter and TV is saying right now.

I wonder if Manafort and Cohen are going to be cellies? And who gets the top bunk ... if you know what I mean.

That's hilariously pathetic, R95. There's no way they can stop the tide.

Except that a lot today had to do with collusion - follow the money 💴

Funny, but saying you committed a crime at the request of Trump is not vindication, r95.

Republicans remain in denial.

R95 He only get the best people!

Mollie Tibbets top story on Fox.

Of course

Also, also, Duncan Hunter, the second Congressman to endorse Trump, was indicted today.

Link.

Trump's name wasn't said in court because he's an unindicted co-conspirator. Nixon was an unindicted co-conspirator.

Wait, r102 and r103! Are you saying you can’t use campaign funds for personal expenses? Like, oh I dunno, paying off porn stars?

Is it settled that POTUS can't be indicted, or is it merely a guideline? How much force do guidelines have?

[quote]Republicans remain in denial.

Not denial. Conspiracy.

The Nancy Pelosi Hater Troll is going off on all these threads today.

[quote]Wait, [R102] and [R103]! Are you saying you can’t use campaign funds for personal expenses? Like, oh I dunno, paying off porn stars?

Something, something Benghazi.

What are the Q folks saying today?

r104 My favorite part of the prosecution's filing today was calling trump Individual-1, then casually half-way through the document saying "Individual 1- who by then had become President of the United States".

If it wasn't for Michael Avenatti representing Stormy Daniels, none of this would have ever seen the light of day. Michael Avenatti is an American hero.

The trump gang theme song:

[quote]Individual 1- who by then had become President of the United States".

That’s fantastic!

my friend saw Michael Avenatti in midtown weeks ago. He's staying in a Hilton brand hotel on 57th street

r113 I actually remembered it a little wrong. Full quote is "Individual 1- who at that point had become President of the United States".

So the first guy who endorsed Drumpf found himself getting charged and now the second?

REALLY makes you wonder if all those supporting him did so because they were being blackmailed.

Do you hear this Senatrice? This isn't going to end well for you.

The whole Repug party is in on this. That is why they are silent!

r116 Lindsey Graham says this is not about Russian collusion. There are no charges or convictions about Russia.

Lindsey dear, it's coming.

R106, it’s a guideline, not settled law. The guideline doesn’t create legal rights—Trump can’t use it as a defense if he is, in fact, indicted.

Saw this on Twitter:

Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen, and Duncan Hunter walk into a prison...that's not a joke, it's the last two hours.

NO COLLUSION. Nothing to do with Russia ... These are all short-term claims that any normal person would stay clear of since these claims may bite you in the ass later on. But then Republicans can say anything and the media doesn't nail them on what they've said in the past. That's only reserved for Democrats.

People should be allowed to SLAP these Republicans viciously for being stupid, hypocritical jackasses.

MHPA. Make Hypocrisy Punishable Again.

R91, Chris Hayes just opened Hardball with what you said, word for word.

R70, that would have been the maximum if served consecutively, but part of his deal was a plea negotiation where he admits guilt to those eight charges ;plus implicates you know who; and serves5years. That’s already set.

What I don’t understand is why he was able to give home. I guess he’ll check in later.

r123, Chris Matthews

I've made the same mistake myself.

More good news that I don't think has been posted yet.

Teachout has to win her primary first.

Maggie Haberman is Maggie Habermaning up a storm.

I love the name "Zephyr Teachout"

I voted for her in the gubernatorial primary in 2014, but I think I'm voting for Tish James in the AG primary. She said the same thing.

So sad that the greatest country in the world falls into relative political chaos.

We were never really that great...

R130 But you know, all this corruption could have been kept under wrap if Trump were actually stable genius or at least just stable.

And none of this deep and sordid mess could have been told before November, 2016? The FBI, CIA, and major media, had to know some of it.

Oops r125, sorry, you’re right

Jeffrey Toobin, who has a lot of credibility and smarts said that the "president can't be indicted" is bullshit. It's not ssettled law, it has been a "tradition" but it is definitely not law.

Fox is carrying entire Trump rally in WV live.

CNN and MSNBC are not.

It’s up to congress now.

NY Daily News has a gotcha for tomorrow's cover.

[quote]CNN and MSNBC are not.

They've learned! FINALLY!

Nothing is written R106.

R109 : This specific Q-wannonabe Just posted this vid an hour or so ago. Looks like some of the Q-tips are turning on him (if I understood the implications of the gibberish being pushed in this video)

R136 That's good. None of these Trump bullshit rallies should ever be televised.

@middleageriot

Paul Manafort has been found guilty and Michael Cohen has plead guilty. Donald Trump is going to shit enough bricks to build his stupid wall.

[quote][R109] : This specific Q-wannonabe Just posted this vid an hour or so ago. Looks like some of the Q-tips are turning on him (if I understood the implications of the gibberish being pushed in this video)

I feel dumber for having clicked on that.

Trump rally shouting "lock her up".

They are a bit subdued though,...meth?

R142 your not missing much he was just bitching about espn.

Anyone with Q shirts/banners at the rally?

I'd bet money trump is drugged right now. He may come alive in a minute, but right now the whole thing is very, very low-energy. Sad.

When did he announce this rally?

R147, maybe they had to sedate him this afternoon

Trump so far is relying on his usual tropes ... nothing about Manafort or Cohen.

It's probably as simple as them cutting off his Diet Coke supply.

Maggie Haberman

Trump folks are worried about impeachment more than before. The thinking goes like this: this is something tangible, not a theoretical. And it didn't come from Mueller. Does not mean it will happen, but this has moved to a different stage in their minds.

Trumpists going all in attacking Cohen’s credibility. Might not be the smartest strategy considering Cohen’s penchant for taping and otherwise documenting his dealings with Trump.

There is also this!!!!! ......

^^This would be a huge story any other day. Today it's barely even noticed.

I didn’t understand why Mueller handed the Cohen stuff over to NY, but it turned out to be a brilliant move. Trump can’t blame this on the "discredited Mueller" and his "disgraceful witch hunt".

Republican Tom Nichols

This West Virginia rally is a very strange affair. Low energy, one might say. The president’s cadences are kind of off, even more than usual. He’s clearly very distracted.

I'm glad Mr. Trump is standing by his man.

r157 It's been interesting to watch. He's saying the right things and the crowd will cheer, but it's off. He's off, the crowd is off, it's faked enthusiasm. It's almost as if even the Deplorable dipshits have figured out their leader just had a really bad day. They won't stop supporting him, but that is one sad rally.

Is there a Fentanyl tent at the WV rally for the attendees to congregate with their Dear Leader for some refreshing Kool-Aid after his speech?

This came to me and I want to submit it to the OP for a possible title down the line...The Traitor’s Gallop!

Sahil Kapur

It's wild to think Cohen and Manafort probably would've gotten away with this—all they had to do was not get their boss elected president of the United States.

Which brings us back to the fact that they probably didn’t think they would win so they got sloppy or paid no mind to hedging or hiding all their dalliances

How's this sound for a book: "The Man Who Didn't Really Want to Be King" (assuming this was all a publicity stunt that went wrong).

[Quote] Hearing the crowd at Trump’s rally chant “lock her up” while everyone close to Trump is being locked up is better than sex.

A lot of witches getting nabbed.

Duncan Hunter & wife: perhaps their insider trading will work inside the prison commissary. Those honey buns are not cheap.

O, Christ on a cracker, Is he STILL talking about Hillary?

His brain dead Deplorables who attend these things still chant "Lock her up!" so of course he does r170.

You know, that's exactly what they remind me of...brain dead...Zombies...they are like fucking Zombies in those Living Dead movies, only instead of coming after the brains of the living, they come after HIllary and try to put her in jail.

LOCK HER UP!!!!! AUGH!!!!!!!!!!

November will be two years since Hillary was in politics. Trump and his minions can't let go.

Can't let go....

R168 Witches with penises, no less.

They have Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

I don't know if I've mentioned this previously, but Jared Kushner's been talking to the FBI.

Rick Wilson mentioned this on one of his periscopes. If you ever get a chance to catch his periscopes, check them out. He drops a lot of gossip that don't make it into his articles or twitter. I also heard it from another source that both Jared and Ivanka are using Jared's father to talk to the FBI and are telling them everything.

Also, Ivanka and Kellyanne are the usual suspects when it comes to leakers in the White House.

Miss Lindzey had a bad day. She chaired a hearing today, Bone Spurs sent a demand; received an ultimatum from Pooty, her gentleman caller cancelled, Rand Paul has become the new DJT/Pooty favorite, Wray/Rosenstein/Mueller are ignoring her demand letters, and her fainting couch is out being re-upholstered.

I love you r177

Rachel is doing one of her table “script” readings, of Cohen’s trial.

Ok, so the first and second GOPers in Congress to endorse Trump during the primaries are now indicted. Does anyone know who number three was? Dare we hope it was Devin Nunes?

R180, I believe it was the incomparable Jeff Sessions.

Fingers crossed!

It was Sessions. We've also forgotten about his lying in all the everything that's come out since then.

So Trump’s company is involved in paying back Cohen.

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions was deep in on that whole RNC convention business. I believe he came clean to Mueller and Rosenstein and is cooperating with them.

Apparently, the reason Duncan Hunter was stealing from his campaign was because he was broke. Like, insufficient funds fees against his personal account broke.

And his wife told him to buy a pair of shorts at a pro shop, which would expensed to the campaign as "golf balls for wounded warriors."

Party of fiscal responsibility.

[quote]So Trump’s company is involved in paying back Cohen.

Yes, for Stormy’s payoff, and with a sizable profit as his fee or commission. All of it disguised as legal services.

I see you Paul Ryan at R90.

Cohen's lawyer on with Maddow now

Jim Jordan is blabbing. His PAC is running ads on CNN in his bid to to become GOP leader in the House.

He was the assistant wrestling coach who denied knowing wrestling players were complaining about a team doc's aggressive and unwanted behavior in the sexual domain.

Cohen’s attorney is impressive.

West Virginia has the highest per capita drug-related death rate in the U.S. In 2015, the state saw 41.5 deaths per 100,000 people attributed to drug use. Researchers from the CDC found that the increase in drug-related deaths in West Virginia from 2014 to 2015 was considered statistically significant, with an increase of 16.9 percent. While the rest of the country wrestles with an alarming rate of illicit drug use, West Virginia is truly on the front lines of this battle.

Wow Lanny Davis!

Can someone give us highlights of what's happening on Rachel?

I missed some of Lanny's answer--did he intimate that Cohen will tell Mueller Trump knew about hacking in advance?

Lanny Davis, on Rachel Maddow, suggests strongly that his client Michael Cohen has information for Mueller on Trump campaign collusion with Russia and Trump’s knowledge of plans for Russian hacking before the hacking occurred.

Next time Rudy is on Chuck Todd's show, he needs to go as Trudy in drag. Chuck will be aroused, the TV audience will triple, and he will be 25% more believable.

Yes, I think so R194. He offered Mueller essentially everything he needs to bring down POTUS.

Don't forget he tweeted this:

I agree, r194. I caught the very end of the interview.

Davis was very careful not to give information that is currently under litigation but his main points were:

Cohen was not so much interested in cooperation vs. simple plea as he was in simply vying for the truth

Mueller will be very interested in hearing other things Cohen needs to say

Trump directed the commission of a crime and the law is very specific about people who direct others to commit a crime. And the evidence is: why didn’t trump just sign a check? And the answer is “because he knew he was doing something illegal and too close to the election.”

Rachel added that trump had to know he was being sleazy because he chose a very difficult solution - having his lawyer get a loan on his mortgage by commiting another crime (not declaring other liabilities that would have impeded the loan) to enable the presidents criminal request.

Lanny Davis coming up on CNN

I am picking out my china pattern for the WH. Plates, saucers, and cups will show Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead.

[quote]suggests strongly that his client Michael Cohen has information for Mueller on Trump campaign collusion with Russia and Trump’s knowledge of plans for Russian hacking before the hacking occurred.

BUT he was very careful to stick with what he could say, not admitting any specific content of the information his client may or may not have.

Today, NBC News broke in to ‘Days of our Lives ‘ with the Cohen news, and Lester Holt was fucking giddy!!! He was grinning ear to ear the whole time!

Even the woman reporter was smiling like crazy!

Is the tide turning in the media finally?

They were actually grinning as they explained how bad this is for rump!!!

[quote]Is the tide turning in the media finally?

I think CNN and MSNBC refusing to carry the rally is the clearest sign that we actually have turned a corner, finally.

[quote]Is the tide turning in the media finally?

Well at least some of them are not televising propaganda - laden campaign rallies.

If they are chanting "Lock her up" does that mean Dump is trans?

Thank Christ! Fuck the kkklan rallies! Not much of a word of it on normal news channels.

Peeked at Fox for a moment. Hannity is talking about Kate Steinle who was murdered by an illegal immigrant. He's not discussing Manafort and Cohen.

HOLY SHIT, the guy running against Duncan Hunter is hot.

We all need to give him all our money right now.

r183 r186 The corporation referenced in Count 7 is Essential Consultants, the shell company set up by Cohen. It has nothing to do with The Trump Organization. Essential Consultants cut the check to Karen McDougal. Count 8 is for money directly from Cohen to Stormy Daniels. Of course, Trump reimbursed Cohen for both payoffs.

You can read all the details in the link.

Just now....

Chris Cuomo: Do you believe that Michael Cohen has anything to offer; that he has new information for the special counsel or the NY Attorney General, of wrongdoing or even criminal activity?

Lanny Davis: I do believe he does. The NY Attorney General has the jurisdiction to look into the Trump Foundation. Michael Cohen, being the attorney for Donald Trump for many many years, knows almost everything about Mr. Tump and we'll see whether the level of corruption alleged concerning the Trump Foundation is a topic of concern for the NY Attorney General. I do believe that he has information about Mr. Trump that would be of interest both in Washington and NY state.

Ah... State Charges that can't be pardoned.

Delicious.

They better go after Pence, too. I don't want President Religious Robot.

Pence lied about Flynn. He's part of this.

How dumb is trump that he knows these thugs have dirt on him and he turns his back on them? Why did he not keep Cohen in his good graces?

Jill has a beautiful smile on her face this evening.

Can you tell what pin she is wearing, r218?

I will check when she is back on the air,

That is a great question, R217 - Why didn't he? From the stories that have been told, Trump always treated Cohen like crap. It makes no sense. He expects blind loyalty, then is surprised when he doesn't get it in return after he acts like a monster.

Fun note: one way Cohen avoided paying taxes was not reporting the $30,000 he got for brokering the sale of a Birkin bag.

Rick Santorum came across as even more of a moron than usual with Anderson tonight. Anderson was quite amusing at his reactions to Santorum’s idiocy, too.

R217 I think the answer to that is quite simple. Dotard has lived a life where he's treated everyone like crap and backstabbed everyone and gotten away with it.

Why would he now start behaving differently when life has told him he doesn't need to ever worry about any of it?

Daniel Dale: Hours after Trump's lawyer pleaded guilty to crimes and implicated Trump and Trump's campaign chairman was convicted of crimes, the crowd at the Trump rally is chanting "drain that swamp."

I think honestly the media is so unaware of its own power. If they ever actually turned on Drumpf... I honestly believe everything would start collapsing for him much more quickly.

He helps sell soap for the networks, r226. It’s why they aided his election.

The Rachel Maddow Show

6 mins ·

BREAKING NEWS:

Michael Cohen attorney Lanny Davis: "Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows, not just about the obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the American democracy system in the 2016 election which the Trump Tower meeting was all about, but also knowledge about the computer crime of hacking and whether or not Mr. Trump knew ahead of time about that crime and even cheered it on."

R219 Jill is wearing a pen pin for Cohen signing a plea deal.m

Thanks, r229!

I'm aware R227. I'm not asking WHY they do it. Im saying IF they turned on him it would make his collapse complete.

What an amazing day today is. It will be remembered in American history. The Tuesday Twofer.

As much as we all dislike him people who actually know Trump must hate him with an intensity we cannot understand. As, one by one, they get sucked into this quagmire he has created at a certain point they will want to fuck him over and damn the consequences. May they all come forward.

R229 There is a picture of Jill’s pen pin on twitter.

A truly amazing day! I hope he is eating his own diarrhea tonight in West Virginia.

R235. Not sure about that one. However, he made a big deal that there is no collusion.

Someone has told him to keep saying that r236. Probably Ghouliani

Semantics.

Trump’s big topic of discussion was regarding the immigrant that is accused of murdering the college student.

Jared has been wearing a wire since last September.

Or maybe he just has one of those fancy pens.

His rantings are so embarrassing. The constant NO COLLUSION is a clear sign there definitely was collusion. Text book projection.

I can't wait til he starts throwing the word TRAITOR around.

Cohen, Manafort, and Duncan Hunter all in one day. Jesus does love me!

And it's only Tuesday!

Richard Burr was speaking on behalf of the republican-led official Senate today and tried to make it look like they were closing in on this all along.

That is BULLSHIT! The repug Senate was going to sweep it all under the rug.

Good luck with that!

*Senate Investigation

Repugs have a lot of explaining to do as this all comes out.

Does Trump actually still think this is about collusion? All along I've said Mueller is following the money trails. The Russian thing is a red herring.

R217, Trump couldn't be nice to anyone if his life depended on it. One of the scariest things about him is that he's not only destructive, he's self-destructive. Ultimately, he's driven to destroy everything. He'll never stop. That's one of the many reason he cannot remain in office.

When Trump steps down (and he will step down), can we have the DL Resignation Celebration somewhere close to DC? I'd be happy to do a road trip for that. Where's our DL party planner? Get a move on -- this could happen any day now!

I don't want Trump to step down, R250. I want him and his grifter family hauled out of the White House in handcuffs.

Oh, Repugs will just blow this off, r247. Nothing that Cohen may reveal about Trump no matter how unsavory and/or illegal, no amount of Trump minion convictions, will get a peep from Repugs. They have to keep excusing him - too many of them are compromised by Russia too. And they are terrified of pissing off Trump's vociferous base. Besides, why should they? They are counting on Russia delivering the next election to them, no matter how bad enabling Trump makes them look.

Repugs tonight are going all in on the notion that the Manafort and Cohen cases are terrible injustices because they have nothing to do with Russian collusion, R248. Jason Chaffetz, filling in for Laura Ingraham on FOX, kept stressing that the only reason Manafort was prosecuted is because he entered Trump’s orbit — as if Manafort stealing mlllions from American taxpayers is inconsequential.

“The party of law and order” is proving anything but.

Is Duncan Hunter at all grateful that he's third billed and mostly forgotten after the other two? Or is he acting like the jackass he always was?

What did a BJ have to do with Whitewater again?

r248 It is about collusion. Putin has sexual and financial corruption blackmail material on Trump. That is why Trump takes orders from Putin. It is also why Trump constantly screams "no collusion" and "witch hunt". Trump knows the money trail leads straight to his fat, stinking ass.

Trump's bad night continues...you know how he's so excited Mollie Tibbets was killed by an illegal immigrant? The man had passed an e-Verify check and was employed by a GOP official in Iowa.

Any thoughts on the fact that Cohen’s lawyer alluded today that Cohen has direct evidence of Trump’s knowledge and encouragement of Russian computer vote HACKING of the 2016 General Election, not just collusion to interfere in the election?

You think he'll step down? I think they'll have to send the marines into the White House to drag him out Trump cannot do anything with grace or decency.

If Putin tells Trump it's over, he'll quit.

Yes r259. He'll be sedated and taken out on a stretcher. Hopefully in a strait jacket.

R255, nothing at all. Ken Starr spent the equivalent of 750M+ in today's money over 3 years and found a consensual BJ, and that was it. Talk about a witch hunt out to destroy a president.

r261 Honest to God, I see him leaving in an ambulance, with two burly young men (preferably non-white) restraining him and pulling him out, or holding him down for a sedative injection.

r259 I can picture him resigning. I think he'd do that rather than risk removal. He's a narcissist so he would want to give the impression it was his idea to leave office or not run again.

Lanny Davis (Cohen’s lawyer) says Cohen may have evidence of (2016 General Election) computer hacking:

Tangential, a legal success for dossier creator/owner MI6 Christopher Steele against the owners of a Russian bankk

I foresee the Secret Service dragging a screaming Trump out of the WH. Melania follows behind with her "I don't give a shit" jacket on.

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Man alive, it's like dominoes today, isn't it?

The White House staff was "utterly shell shocked today". How sad for them.

Didn't Omarosa already say that Drumpf knew about the hacking ahead of time? I thought there were even suggestions that she already discussed it with Mueller?

Has SmellyAnne’s rancid pussy commented?

Can I fix a broken chair with glue?

I've said it before.. my ultimate scenario is to see Helicopters swarming the WH and the Feds pull up to bust down the doors... and then to see Drumpf literally use his foot to shove Ivanka out to the Feds while he tries to then run out the back.

r272 She is spinning like a F5 tornado as we speak.

Crazy Theory of Mine: Is it possible that Cohen came forward because he's been persuaded he might be pardoned? NOT by Trump, but by his lawyer, Lanny Davis? Maybe Davis convinced Cohen that if he comes forward with EVERYTHING he knows, and it's enough to end Trump's presidency, Trump's successor will pardon him. Yes, he may have to spend some time in jail, but he would go down in history as someone who eventually came forward and did the right thing, not a traitor.

It was mentioned, more than once, that Cohen gave information he did not have to give. He didn't have to mention the president, but he did. Why?

Again, just a crazy theory.

Anybody else think this is possible?

R276

When it is all said and done Mueller can go to the courts and say Cohen should serve 5 months instead of 5 years.

[quote]The White House staff was "utterly shell shocked today".

"What the hell? I thought you were going to buy off the jury?"

"Me? I thought YOU were going to do it!"

"Not ME! What about Pence?"

"Are you kidding? That queen doesn't lift a damn finger …"

And on and on ...

..... adding to r279

I need another sandwich.

In other news, it looks like Friess, the candidate that Trump Totally and Completely endorsed in Wyoming gubernatorial primary, has lost to Gordon.

If Trump starts to lose his ability to steer and wreck the narrative, what will his options be?

Really a terrible day in Trumpland.

Surprised this has yet not been said to the guilty

Thoughts and prayers

He looks like complete shit tonight.

Has Sessions talked to Mueller? That would be interesting.

R283

R284

With today's Cohen plea we now begin Act 2 -- rats fleeing the sinking ship. Who do you think will try to cut a deal first, Jared? Ivanka? Don Jr? Sessions? Pence? So many possibilities.

Donald Jr. I don’t find him to be very smart. He reacts before he thinks. A lot like his dad.

Hot-potato! Who will be the last loser sticking up for this guy?

Hannity? What a complete freak. What’s this idiot going to say when they’re all in the clink?

It will be Jared.

R282 — surely, “womp womp”?

r286 I drew cards, and it's going to be one of the kids. I see a Capricorn but that could be Donald, Eric, or Jared. I'll go with r289 because he doesn't have to be as loyal to the Dotard as do Uday and Qusay.

These veterans keep getting ripped off by republicans. Over and over again. These are the assholes who gave us these bullshit wars in the first place.

As if that’s not enough, the repugs constantly grift off the veterans, I mean CONSTANTLY, through fake charities, fund drives, pillaging the VA and then hit them up for donations.

And yet they are not using their power to stop this nonsense. Veterans are probably the most powerful group outside of seniors yet they get ripped off again and again.

This Duncan guy is just the latest in a long line of Republicans who use, defraud and fleece veterans.

Did Mark Burnette give us Suvivor? That was the first show to soften the soil for dystopian reality programming.

If I were parioniod, I would say he was part of this sub-cabal of billionaires that are really trying to do this thing.

Wouldn't be surprised if Kush has already sold all of them out (including Vanka) and I wouldn't be surprised if Vanka tries to sell all of them out before they can turn on her.

There is currently a mad scramble not to be the last man holding the bag.

Any bets?

So far, Omarosa is first out of the gate. Leave it to her to be one step ahead.

R295 Omarosa was forced out... even though she said she was planning her exit (and Kelly did her a favor in retrospect), but her intended exit certainly wasn't meant to be Xmas last year. She probably would have stayed close to or through midterms to see which way the wind blew.

Richard Burr is second throw the hot potato. It will be fun watching this play out.

Can someone give Rachel a damn award already?

Keep an eye on Yertle...he has kept the Senate in session during August break.

This is very rare. The reason gives is to pass budget bills.

Now, I am no Einstein, but I know if there is one thing they’re not in town for, it’s for that.

Countdown to Kavanaugh....

R297

R298

R299

ARE any of you above BernieBros? I’ve only ever blocked Trump fans or BernieBros.

Watergate called and wants their saga back.

[quote]I can picture him resigning. I think he'd do that rather than risk removal. He's a narcissist so he would want to give the impression it was his idea to leave office or not run again.

I agree. I thought from the beginning that, if the screw turned far enough, he would resign under the pretense of a health issue. Protecting his ego is paramount, more important than the security of the United States or the interests of his supporters. He’s a coward without compunction and would take the easy way out without a second thought.

That why I half expect all this drama to end with a whimper. Trump is slime, but he’s not dumb, and he will know when he’s out of options or too close to real trouble. I could see him abruptly and simply quitting with minimal elaboration, treating this like just like one of his innumerable bankruptcy failures. He has no real connection to the office or his role, certainly no sense of moral obligation or duty. Bail, move on.

My only consolation through this is believing that Trump never wanted to be president, and that he’s probably been utterly miserable with the stress of the job (when he’s not napping, golfing or watching TV) and the constant scrutiny. He could’ve had a nice retirement with lots of golf, travel, eating his fucking Big Macs in peace and screwing porn stars. He took a bet and lost by winning. Hope you regret it, prick.

[quote] Wouldn't be surprised if Kush has already sold all of them out (including Vanka) and I wouldn't be surprised if Vanka tries to sell all of them out before they can turn on her.

Sorry girl. Your husband came to us first. You're the one headed to the scaffold.

R302

r301

After today’s events, I hope someone is working on a prequel to my favorite video.

Josh Dawsey

@jdawsey1 Asked Paul Ryan's office for their reaction to today's news. Here's the statement I just got. "We are aware of Mr. Cohen’s guilty plea to these serious charges. We will need more information than is currently available at this point.”

Thank you for that, R307, I remehow thankful it made me during dark days.

I am the OP of the first few threads. Long before I first posted, way back in late November and December 2016 actually, and in January 2017, I felt like I was the only one who could see that the voting totals for Florida and several other states had been literally changed. There was a statistician who had written an article about it (who has now presented evidence and been interviewed by Robert Mueller), but all my friends and certainly all the media had bought hook-line-and-sinker the Putin/Stein/Sanders-encouraged line that this was only about the White Working Class and that was what we had to fix; that it was nothing to do with Russia.

It took a long time for liberal, leftist people in my life, or in the media, to start mentioning Russian involvement and, eventually, treason. Months and months. They (we) are still pussy-footing around the evidence that the vote totals were changed.

DataLounge was one of the first places that dared to speak the word “treason”, because bots and the brainwashed left and deplorable right shouted you down on media comment sections or on your (my) own social media for using that word (or one was met with deafening silence, with the implication that one was a poor loser).

I want to thank DataLounge and all the well-meaning posters on this thread, and especially the current OP, for keeping hope in our constitution and democracy alive. Unmanipulated discussion is vital in the face of propaganda.

And R307, here’s hoping to a prequel and many follow-ups.

R308, I mean the brainwashed fake left. I consider myself far left.

Sorry for the typos!

Thank you R309

Our very own Thomas Paine

I don’t know why they couldn’t convict on all 18 counts.

I mean, just look at the guy. What more evidence does one need?

Of course Trump/Russia hacked the vote and Trump knows it but everyone in government is trying pretend THAT didn't happen.

No, thank [italic]you,[/italic] r309. I turn to these threads over and over for a bit of sanity and, MARYing! myself in advance, I’d be lost without them.

So, with Cohen pleading guilty to those charges but not required to cooperate with prosecutors as part of that deal and now his lawyer going on shows and telling everyone he wants to spill everything to get to the truth and wants to talk to Mueller's team, does that mean that this is just a first step in a multi-step plea deal? Cohen will now fully and voluntarily cooperate with Mueller and Mueller will, in turn, vacate the terms of the prior plea deal and require no or very little jail time? Cohen gets to get out of a ton of jail time and gets to look like a savior of the nation as he takes down Trump and we get rid of Trump and the rest of them.

They’re all cooperating:

Flynn

Omarosa

Gates

The Greek

The fat campaign guy who the Greek reported to

even the WH lawyer, Don McGahn

Their all singing like a choir

And now Cohen

Wouldn’t it be funny if no one reported to work at the WH tomorrow?

They’ll all be across town banging on Muellers door.

They’re

R307 I agree that's a great video, but it ended 10 seconds too soon. The last shot should have been the police forcing Trump into the back of the squad car, and allowing his head to hit the rim, HARD. Just like in Trump's speech to he LI PD back in July, 2017.

This is how badass Bob Mueller is. All of this stuff with Cohen isn’t by accident. Mueller knows where’s all the bodies are buried. That’s why it’s going down like this. He already knows what Cohen knows. Some other witness has already told Mueller everything. Mueller just wants Cohen to admit it so he lines up another witness.

R309 "I felt like I was the only one who could see that the voting totals for Florida and several other states had been literally changed. "

But you weren't! I was thinking the same thing, obsessing over the tallies in each state, especially Florida because they had practically declared Hillary he winner based on absentee ballots alone that came in before election day. It was all too weird. Then I read your post in what might have been the very first Treason thread. I copied/pasted it and emailed to everyone I could think of because you articulated it far better than I did.... I think we even had a bit of conversation, but I'm too tired to bring up the old threads and look thru them.

My point is: what you wrote mattered. If I sent it to a bunch of my friends, I'm sure a lot of other posters did also. You planted a small seed, (sorry, your own tree, this is DL !!), and look how it's grown.

THANK YOU!!!!!

I formerly thought of Michael Cohen as a weasel but today he did us proud. I hope telling the truth is cathartic for him. Keep talking, bro, you will remembered as one of the good guys.

Oh, he's still a weasel, r323. This is just his strategy to minimize his exposure, maximize his value to the prosecution and maybe get a little revenge. Never make the mistake that someone like this is a decent person. The moment you turn your back on someone like this is the moment you feel the knife slide in.

R315, well Cohen is out on bail ($500,000) and isn’t due to serve his sentence at least until mid-December so it would seem he’s got more work to do as a wrecking ball.

I mentioned this up thread, I'll mention it again. I think Lanny Davis convinced Cohen that if he steps forward and tells all he knows, (which might be more than anyone else involved with Trump knows), there'll be a pardon for him. By the next elected Democratic President. He'll serve a few years in prison, far less than anyone else who had committed the same crimes, and be forgiven once released. Not having to go down in history as a treasonous traitor.

In which case, he really would become the John Dean of Russiagate.

The Democrats need to speak to this criminal behaviour directly and stop avoiding talk of impeachment. It’s not the only campaign issue - and they shouldn’t campaign on it - but they need to speak to it and promote the start of investigations in Congress.

Regarding Lanny Davis: Does he remind anybody else of the late Garry Marshall?

Aw shucks, thank you, R314 and R323

And as always thank you to the “real” OP who diligently and wittily keeps these important threads going, and to all the contributors who don’t let the trolls and the treason get them down.

Oops - I meant thank you, R322.

If the two Republican senators ho supported were indicted, then their seats are up for grabs, correct? Then if more of these assholes come under investigation/indictments, Dems could flip many seats and hold majorities in both houses! Please....pretty please......

R109 on their reddit thread they ignoring the charges and posting more conspiracy about Seth Rich and the Clinton Foundation and posting photos of 'best shirts at last night's rally', such as this example.

R331 again. PLEASE nullify the entire 2016 Presidential election and install Hillary Clinton as President of the United States of America!!!'

^^^i meant Trump's entire presidential election....

[quote]I formerly thought of Michael Cohen as a weasel but today he did us proud

He's doing everything he's doing for him, not for 'us'.

The final scene from the third season of 'Fargo'. Even though it originally aired over a year ago, I think about this scene a lot and watch it regularly. And while I know it's just a scene from a television show, it has often given me hope that all is not lost.

It feels particularly resonant today, and I look forward to it becoming increasingly more so over the coming months.

I agree with the posters who have said Michael Cohen probably hopes for a pardon from the next Dem president. And I imagine he is hoping to avoid State charges. Not to mention a staged suicide by the Russian mob.

That said the fact that he implicated 45 in court while pleading guilty without a cooperation agreement in place and also his lawyer went on TV and said Cohen wants to tell Mueller about the conspiracy to commit treason and all sorts of other things because it’s the right thing to do sends a clear message to 45 that his pardon is useless.

There is something so sweet about it being Lanny Davis who is representing Michael Cohen and getting him to turn on Trump, and not the direct accusation in open court "I did it at the direction of the candidate..." Lanny was/is a part of the Clinton inner circle, has been for years, and he was/is very close to Hillary. if has always been a cut throat, take-no-prisoners kind of guy. Sitting on the opposite side of the table from Lanny can be a terrifying experience. L.O.L.

R338 I was trying to say "and make the accusation in open court..."

That scene gives you hope, r336? I loved that denouement to the season precisely because it left me scared to death that the universe might not be as moral and tidy as I want it to be. Still, it's terrifically done.

Has it tweeted yet this morning?

“It”must be shitting in Miz Linz’ mouth at the moment. Either that, or “it”has lost “its”phone.

R341 His handlers probably said don’t implicate yourself by tweeting about the verdicts.

Which means R343 he'll hold off until tomorrow.

Yes, there's no way he contains himself when he's alone. If not tomorrow, there's the weekend... he's always bonkers at the weekend.

[quote]I agree with the posters who have said Michael Cohen probably hopes for a pardon from the next Dem president.

Nah. He’s a crook and he knows we know that. What he’s probably been promised is that, if he provides lots of detailed testimony directly implicating Donald Trump in perpetrating crimes, Mueller will recommend that his sentence be a token one, say three months.

No Trump tweets from the toilet this morning.

Wonder if Kellyanne will be yapping on camera today?

He just tweeted, and it's laughable!

Paraphrasing the Stable Genius's toilet brainwave: "Anyone looking for a lawyer, don't hire Michael Cohen."

LOLOLOL!!!

[quote]Anyone looking for a lawyer, don't hire Michael Cohen."

Yeah because only a COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOT would ever do that.

And the advice comes a little too late because, thanks to his entanglement with Donald J. Trump, he’s about to get disbarred.

R350, R351

He probably is snorting a shit-ton of Colombia's finest just to be able to send out that one lame tweet this morning.

Alan Dershowitz told Tucker Carlson last night: "Every candidate violates the election laws when they run for president...here they're trying to elevate this into an impeachable offense or a felony against the president."

Rick Wilson, in a Periscope last night, said he pitched "all of this Michael Cohen stuff" to the media before both the Republican primaries and the general election, and got no interest. "Too complicated," they said.

Tell ya whut, if you ever need a lawyer who goes for the jugular, who is as mean as a rattlesnake and smart as hell, Lanny's your man. When the announced Lanny was representing Cohen I was stunned. When people look at the "moment" when it all turned to shit for Trump, it was the moment when Lanny took Michael Cohen on as his client. I'd love to hear the story of how that all came about. I have a very strong feeling Donny Deutch, the guy on Morning Joe might have had a hand in Cohen flipping and hiring Davis. Donny and Cohen a re friends. They talk. I can't wait for the movie version of this!!!

[quote]Anyone looking for a lawyer, don't hire Michael Cohen.

But cha did, Blanche, ya did hire him!

So much for all those claims that Cohen didn't flip.

Cohen's lawyer says he's completely flipped and will give evidence that Trump colluded with Russia

SO NOW Trump has tweeted about how Manafort didn't "break" like Cohen did...He"s just like a Mafia boss praising one of his captains for not "ratting out"! He really does see himself as the godfather.

Trump knows shit on Dershowitz through Epstein. Of course Dershowitz is shilling for DJT.

Idle thought: how much is Mueller going to get for the inevitable book deal when this is all over?

OP, I love you. Seriously, with all my heart.

All I keep thinking is the final scene from Goodfellas with Eric Clapton’s Layla. Makes me laugh!

It's a good thing that the Manafort jury didn't find him guilty on all 18 charges. If they had, then Trump would have been saying that the jury was rigged.

Give him time, r364.

Trump is so OVER. He’s not going to be able to function throughout this. He’s so cornered.

Once the scale of his criminality is known I think the Justice Dept. will indict him. It’s only policy, not Constitutional law. He’s flouted every precedent and established protocol - why should he be allowed to cling to that. He’s going to be made an example of - you CAN indict a sitting President,actually.

Dershowitz on Fox, now with Halley Jackson on MSNBC. The media giving Trump immediate re-hab. Repeated cycle for ratings.

He trashes the American but he praises the Russian spy. This cunt is too stupid. I hope someone gets Jared NEXT!

[quote]He trashes the American but he praises the Russian spy. This cunt is too stupid.

And yet how stupid are the Deplorables who believe every word he says?

Omarosa and Stormy:. two women beating Trump at his own game.

If Cohen is out on bail, I can only hope he is well guarded. It would be convenient if he had a little "accident".

I doubt anything is going to happen to him...it would be too obvious.

Lindsey Graham another one of Trump’s stand up guys.

R371 When Cohen surrendered yesterday to the FBI my thought was that he wanted protection. Now he's out on his own. There is no direction that fucker can look without his murderer creeping up. He's fucked the mob, including Trump and Pootie. I think he's a dead man.

Absolutely R370. And I must give Michael Avenatti all the credit here for getting the ball rolling. I don't know how he became Stormy's lawyer, but it was the beginning of Trump's worst nightmare. I think Michael Avenatti is an American hero. Without him, none of this would have been possible.

David Pecker - National Enquirer

This name is coming up a lot with the payoffs to Stormy, Karen, and buying story rights, then suppressing.

Cohen knows all the details between Trump and Pecker.

Now, Miz Lindz does adore the name Pecker.

R371, I'm sure that's a concern. Maybe he has protection and they don't want that info to go public.

Waayell... mah nickname is "peckerwood", r376!

I was watching CNBC and they are saying the economy will still continue to be strong even if he is no longer president. They are talking like they expect him to be gone or something...that was yesterday evening when news broke.

Love that video at R373. Miz Lindz needs to have that tweeted at him non-stop for the next month at least.

[quote] R303: I can picture him resigning. I think he'd do that rather than risk removal. He's a narcissist so he would want to give the impression it was his idea to leave office or not run again.

Not me. I think he will burn it all down, rather than resign. He’s a vindictive SOB, and he will have his pound of flesh! Expect him to incite civil violence and/or bully some country in a brief war. Maybe he’ll attack North Korea. It’s not like he cares about South Koreans or the Japanese. Or Americans, frankly, maybe it’ll be Iran. We’ll see.

He will make sure he has lots and lots of money hidden away in off shore funds first before he resigns. Coz nobody is gonna wanna stay at his shit hotels, his biz is gonna crumble and he may even file for bankruptcy again!

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Apparently, his wife signed those applications for loans with him, so he is trying to protect her as well.

They are going to have to use Trumps children as a bargaining chip to get him to resign peacefully..

[quote]They are going to have to use Trumps children as a bargaining chip to get him to resign peacefully..

I'm with others who think he'd throw them all under the bus to save his own ass first. He doesn't give a shit about those beasts.

[quote]He will make sure he has lots and lots of money hidden away in off shore funds first before he resigns.

As I recall, all of Ferdinand Marcos' money got frozen after he fled the Philippines. They can do it to Trump too.

R387 Mel should call Imelda to get some advice.

No, but the ill gotten gains are probably in trusts held in LLCs in off shore accounts. They don't know who the real owners are.

Legislation like FATCA is making offshore banks get picky about doing business with Americans. They'll either turn them away or document the hell out of them.

"He will die in jail."

All the people that his businesses have ripped off need to come together and form a coalition. They need to be loud and vocal, and it should include every citizen of Atlantic City.

That way everytime someone says what a great business man he is, they will put out PR that contradicts those false claims.

They need to line up all his unpaid bills and see how far they stretch.

How many subcontractors has he put out of business?

It won’t matter how Trump goes down he will spin it in his favor and never accept it as his truth. He will chant lock HER up on his death bed.

R381 I agree. In fact, I believe he had a plan to incite violence before the election results, when everyone including him thought he'd lose. Now he can just incite greater violence. It's why I say it might have been of a blessing that Hillary didn't become President. With the House and Senate all Republican, she really might have been impeached because of her emails and Benghazi - and not be allowed to govern! The difference being, Hillary wasn't guilty. Trump is! And all the cancer that we now know exists would have been swept back under the rug, to fester, grow, and become more insidious. Trump, Manafort, Mike Flynn, and so many others would be getting away scot-free with their multiple crimes. At least now we know we can work to eradicate it.

I agree to an extent R394 but I also strongly believe that if Hillary had been sworn in (we all know she won) it would have also been a Dem House and Senate. There's no way they didn't fuck with those votes as well.

R395 I suspect so too.

"He's gonna be impeached for sure. After the midterms after Dems win the house."

And what if the Dems don't win? Nothing has been done to fix our hacked and rigged voting system! The Russians will just help the Repugs cheat and they could win again. This issue has not been addressed nearly as strongly as it should be!!

I know I’m gonna get it but I am not so sure the votes were hacked. I’ve noticed that our eastern pests seem to keep pushing that the votes WERE hacked. Why do they say that? Maybe they don’t want us to trust our voting systems and want us to question democracy.

Plus, I read this WP article.

R399 I used up my WAPO articles for the month. 2-sentence summary please, if you don't mind? Thanks

"I am not so sure..."

But even having not read the article, that's kind of my point. If they were smart enough to hack the tallies, they could have been smart enough to cover their tracks so it goes undetected. I personally believe they did, but it might be many years before we find out for sure and how they got away with it.

They should have stuck with paper ballots, more hack proof than those electronic machines!

R400 weeks ago it was demonstrated how they did it. It was kind of an OJ: "If I did It" type article. If they hacked the votes and altered them here's how they could have done it. Point being, they did hack the votes and alter the outcomes.

There is evidence and it’s coming out. I suspect R398 is a troll and quite a skilled one.

[quote]He will chant lock HER up on his death bed.

Can I watch?

WAPO: Here’s what we found

In brief, we find no evidence that the voting technology favored one candidate more than the other.

Nor could we find any statistical differences correlated with accessibility technologies or with different voting technology vendors.

The tests uncovered nothing suspicious. That supports a conclusion that voting machines themselves were not hacked.

We did run into a problem with the Wisconsin votes: We cannot be sure which technology was used to produce the record of each vote. We often do not know which votes are cast by hand on paper and which votes are cast using Direct Recording Electronic (DRE) technology. That makes it impossible to trace each vote from when and how it was cast to how it was counted — and therefore those votes are impossible to analyze precisely.

We ran into a different problem in Michigan: only a subset of precincts were recounted. Serious problems have been documented in Detroit that potentially could have changed the outcome in the state. Votes in Detroit were not recounted and are not part of our data.

For reasons we detail in the working paper, it’s not feasible to say anything reliable about the associations between voting technologies and the exact numbers of votes the candidates received.

Nonetheless, our analysis offers evidence that voting technology did not distort the votes in Wisconsin or Michigan. How a vote was treated appears not to have depended on which candidate the vote was for. If there was a hack, it appears not to have changed the results.

(Walter R. Mebane, Jr. is a research associate at the Center for Political Studies, professor of political science and professor of statistics at the University of Michigan.)

Matthew Bernhard is a PhD student in computer science at the University of Michigan.

Robert Costa:

Giuliani, calling Post from golf course in Scotland, says he has spoken with POTUS today and deliberated over what it all means—Manafort, Cohen, etc. Says, optimistically, they believe Mueller “might be at the end now. He has to be winding down. What else is there? Near the end.”

[quote] they believe Mueller “might be at the end now. He has to be winding down. What else is there? Near the end.”

Surely Rudy remembers from law school what begging the question is, so he knows he's doing it BIGLY in that statement.

So basically he’s saying if we want the goods then Americans need to pay up. Some billionaire should pay the 500k all at once so we can keep the tea flowing.

"How ya like me now?! # teamstormy"

The Duncan Hunter stuff (R411) is just pathetic. How do these people think they'll never get caught? Is it just SOP for all politicians (perhaps all Republican politicians), so Hunter thought he could get away with it, too?

"On or about March 20, 2015, when Duncan Hunter told Margaret Hunter that he was planning 'to buy my Hawaii shorts' but had run out of money, she counseled him to buy the shorts at a golf pro shop so that they could falsely describe the purchase later as 'some [golf] balls for the wounded warriors.'"

Eighteen months later, Duncan Hunter attacked Colin Kaepernick for disrespecting the troops.

The White House has added a press briefing at 2:15 p.m. ET to the schedule. Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders will brief reporters a day after President Trump’s former campaign chairman was found guilty on eight counts in his criminal trial, and Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to eight felony counts.

Get your popcorn ready!

[quote]If Cohen is out on bail, I can only hope he is well guarded. It would be convenient if he had a little "accident"

[quote]I doubt anything is going to happen to him...it would be too obvious.

Way back when Cohen was first under intense scrutiny and had scads of documents seized Trump did his distancing praise thing - and also found room to mention Cohen's lovely family. In other words, 'Do the right thing, Michael.' And now he hasn't.

Given that Trump's deep corruption is not only widely documented but also clear from everything he says and does, the 'too obvious' doubt seems unpersuasive.

Everything about Trump is crude stupid and venal, which he's convinced are merits. It's too late now for him not to think he's untouchable. This saga has been extraordinary, so the endgame could be ugly indeed. Putin will be viewing events with interest.

Twitter comments from Richard Painter:

[quote] No, but the ill gotten gains are probably in trusts held in LLCs in off shore accounts. They don't know who the real owners are.

Given that Trump's highly trusted accountant was interviewed by Mueller I doubt Trump has the ability to hide new money without his accountant and Mueller finding where it is. Of course Putin might provide Trump with a nice nest egg if he's feeling generous (but why throw good money at a bad cause that can be solved with a little bit of radiation poisoning? Trump's not going to be of great use for him when he is disgraced and on the run)

Hack.....

Michael Cohen is serving up some serious Tyne Daly mouth in that photo.

CNN SUCKS tee shirts were being sold at WV rally. They are so refined and cultured.

That is true, R324, but we need more weasels like him that will actually talk about the crimes trump committed. Many more have full knowledge of what happened and are keeping quiet even after being implicated or indicted and convicted like Manafort. The weasels who finally tell the truth are helping to bring trump down, whether that's their intention or not. I'm grateful to anyone, including weasels, who have a part in the obliteration of trump.

Actually if I could do it anonymously I'd contribute. If Michael Cohen is prepared to fuck Trump over, I'm good with that. Go for it Michael. You're a rat bastard, but you're OUR rat bastard.

When does Omarosa release her next tape???

If Cohen wants me to donate, then he needs to start talking now. I don’t trust him.

Trump Denies He Directed Michael Cohen to Pay Off Women: I Found Out ‘Later On’

Trump went on to claim that the money for the payments “did not come out of the campaign,” so did not violate campaign finance laws, but “came from me.”

This from an interview with Fox's Ainsley Earhardt.

r426.....they conveniently forgot about the Cohen tape where hes discussing the pay off and how to structure it.....before it happened.

What the fuck is an "Ainsley Earhardt" and can it be put down?

The next Dem President would be silly to pardon Cohen.

Dems believe in that whole Rule of Law thing.

r376, "From Pecker to Porn: The Rise and Fall of Donald Trump."

After he chose to throw the Fat Fuck under the bus yesterday I was happy to toss Cohen a few bucks today. He didn't have to bring Fatso into it directly, he did it because he wanted to do it.

Go Michael.

r414, The Huckabeast has changed her eye make-up!

Huckabeast looks ROUGH today, like she's been up all night sobbing into a vat of Blue Bunny.

I love you R309. Brave voices like you have really changed this old centrist’s mind. As well as all of the OPs who have faithfully kept these threads going. And Datalounge for the forum! ❤️

Just to add, it is with great delight I see Duncan Hunter being exposed. He always was so dirty. Next on the list - Jason Chaffetz, Dana Rohrabacher, and Kevin McCarthy!

Of course, r426, if the pay-off "came from me," then Trump ("me") is admitting the adulterous affairs, admitting the election-influencing, and admitting to lying for months to the American public.

#basta #Avenatti2020

R432 That black ruffled shoulders dress & artificial(?) pearl necklace needs a huge black brim hat with ax cluster of silk black dahlias on it.

I want Devin Nunes next. I'm almost irrational about this.

Devin Nines yes he has to go

Add Gohmert, Meadows, Jordan, Gaetz, etc.

Please don’t ignore me like a molested wrestler.

Huck's main response "The President did nothing wrong and there are no charges against him". She's willing to go down with the ship. I'd ask how can she look at herself in a mirror but that answer is obvious.

Where's Mitch McTurtle standing for truth?

What’s the point of Sarah’s press briefings anyway? She doesn’t answer any questions and reads lies from her propaganda script. She’s useless. Why do journalists keep gathering to listen to her? It’s a joke.

Today's face

Yes, the list is long, but I want Nunes next or as soon as possible. I expect the fear and drama will go up several notches, I will see it as a benchmark.

...and DeSantis

I desperately want a pic of Mueller-as-Harry Potter to just drop on my FB page.

R444 and r447: Aunt Lydia

That dress other than the color R436 looks like something Adora from Sharp Objects would choose for her daughters.

I want Roger Stone in jail almost more than every other member of the trump crime syndicate. We've been forced to endure that blight on humanity since Watergate and it's not fair.

Then I want every GOP member of Congress in jail for all crimes they've committed plus the crime of aiding and abetting treason. And then I would like the Republican party to cease to exist as a political entity.

I really don't think that's asking for too much.

My dream is that Republican Senators start being charged for corruption and/or Russian conspiracy related crimes and so forth, Knock off enough of the worst fascisti and improve our margin to oust the traitorous President.

Kellyanne's hubby on Twitter

Includes pic with Connally, Tump, and Nixon 1989

I think the biggest mistake Trump made, considering how filthy dirty he is, I was the decisionfor his staff to “cooperate with the Meuller Investigation” (despite him complaining about it the whole time). It was good for America, but not good for a criminal like Trump and his enterprise. Perhaps his advisors were afraid that his staff would balk at a directive to stonewall and misdirect, afraid of obstruction charges? Maybe they were afraid that such a directive would send people fleeing to Meuller to rat on Trump , for fear of criminal obstruction charges themselves?

Nixon actually had true believers working for him at all levels. I think that Trump’s top associates are mostly opportunists and criminals. He has lower-level followers, true believers, but those are just pasties, not top lieutenants. I’m sure Trump has no respect for them. Aside from a Steve Bannon and the White Power-Racist contingent, I don’t think Trump has top advisors that really believe in him as a leader.

[quote]Aside from a Steve Bannon and the White Power-Racist contingent, I don’t think Trump has top advisors that really believe in him as a leader.

I have a name, you know?

Those rumors of Roger Stone & wife of the time "swinging" with Congressmen & their wives, sounds so sordid.

You don't suppose Mitch and......

Um, R455, you meant "patsies," didn't you? Just checking.

R455, Steve, I loved “Space Cowboy”!

R457, probably. I’ll take your word for it!

Miller is no pussy grabber; fairly certain about that.

Trump at Medal of Honor awards sounds sedated. Reading on script.

Lord, Lord, hey LORD, listen up! Jordan and Gaetz have to go, they are crazed Hitler Youth and we can't have that. Also DeVos, she's too stupid to continue walking upright, let alone being in charge of education and her brother is a mercenary freak with a small army who wants to take over a war. Just FYI in case you've had as hard a time keeping up with the news lately as the rest of us, no offense.

But before then, Lord, please smite Devin Nunes so that we, the once invincible denizens of the Datalounge, may regain our strength. Amen and pass the biscuits, please.

R461, is he doing that weird wheezing thing he does when he has to read?

It's like he's forcing himself to breathe. He really, really hates reading. Are there other people who hate it this much?

Cohen always has that Dumbo look on his face.

I'm trying to keep track here... everything that Dotard and his crew have been accused of don't we basically already have confirmation for all of it?

Obstruction? Dotard admitted it in his interview.

Collusion with Russia? Jr. Mint's emails exposed that.

Paying off women to silence them before the election? Ghouliani admitted that for him.

What else?

[quote]I think the biggest mistake Trump made, considering how filthy dirty he is, I was the decisionfor his staff to “cooperate with the Meuller Investigation” (despite him complaining about it the whole time).

You believe that he actually made the decision to "allow staff to cooperate" with Mueller?

He had no choice.

McGahn serves the White House not Dotard. I think it was already linked in this thread or the thread before... law states that he had to.

With regard to the discussion about votes actually being changed. Always good to bring this back up as a reminder:

[quote]Yes. There's already proof. I work in the industry. I sat in a meeting with the head of cyber security investigations for the FBI in Florida. Their systems were hacked in 2016. What's difficult is proving that (or more accurately stated "how") the votes were manipulated. But go back to election night and remember how Trump pulled ahead in Florida, NC, MI, PA and WI. It happened almost like clock work once the precincts reporting crossed the 50% threshold. This shit is deep. Putin had already done this in his own election and also in Ukraine. We should be very worried about the EU elections coming up.

[quote]I want Devin Nunes next.

I question your taste in men.

Those Russian operatives in the U.S. know how the 2016 election was hacked. They were indicted, but will not return from Russia to face trial.

The White House says that the constitution precludes the indictment of a sitting president. But it also claims that the absence of an indictment is proof that Trump is innocent.

Funny, that.

I know, R470. It's utterly nonsensical.

Like Ghouliani's statement that the charges against Cohen did not mention anything about the president, ergo he is innocent. But if as the Trump camp insists, a president simply cannot be indicted, the charges against Cohen can't ever include charges against the president. Under the logic of "a sitting potus cannot be indicted", the absence of indictment doesn't mean anything more than following that technical rule.

But deplorables can't grapple with a two-step logical sequence. They know only "no collusion" and "lock her up".

I would back the laborious but less vulnerable process of a paper ballot.

Yes, "Individual 1 who was by then President Of The United States" could be practically anyone!

Dem Loretty Lynn ruffles doe, R444

Lindsey Graham is hopping mad if B. Kavanaugh's confirmation is delayed.

The foot is being put down!

[quote]The foot is being put down!

Daintily, one would assume.

iirc, back in 2016, someone had compiled a list link of stories about election hacking and was updating it as new stories cane out in the media. It was on another website and I bookmarked it on my computer but I'm not sure it's still there.

It was a great resource and I hope it came over when I got a new hard drive.

Money laundering and tax evasion, he's guilty of both.

I think Mueller has his checkmate. Trump only has his big mouth left. So happy to see those rats Ghouliani and the Huckabeast go down with this sinking ship.

Off-topic, but I'm still over here obsessed with Judge Ellis. If anyone finds an article or hears a commentator going over if the ten counts the jury couldn't decide on coincide with the counts being talked about when he acted up most, I'd be grateful if you posted.

Don't be vulgar, R476, they're my Latin dance shoes.

WSJ: Trump returned to the White House last night in a "rotten" mood—not only because of the convictions of his former lawyer and campaign chairman, but because he felt the audience at his West Virginia rally had been flat.

Oh, no! Poor Trumpy. His drug of choice is wearing off.

And for the record, Miz Lindz prefers cha-cha heels.

If we nominate Trump we will be destroyed and we will deserve it - sez Miss Lindz.

R482 The fool is unmasked. The cheering is gone. The jailhouse is ready.

[quote] but because he felt the audience at his West Virginia rally had been flat.

More projection?

Didn't those who watched it say he seemed flat?

So I don't support impeachment in the short term, and here's why.

I think (assuming Dems get control of House and maybe Senate) that the balance of power shifts. I'd want lots and lots and lots of public hearings... exposing Trump AND the Republicans. Let them suffer their rewards. It's only two years until the election... it keeps it alive and at the forefront and I think it will mean bigger gains for the Democrats. And that doesn't even factor what Mueller finally reveals.

Crazy? (I know quick impeachment would feel good, but...)

I agree, r487, I want people to hear about this and get pissed off. We need to fund elections with taxpayer money to politicians will answer to us as the "donors".

Agreed. Its not enough to get these assholes out of office. We need the daily spectacle of trials and hearings. We need to shame the Deplorables with the grinding awfulness of it all.

....

Can't we impeach then hold hearings on all the rest? Can't both be possible?

Interesting on MSNBC. The Senator said Mueller has spread his investigation into 5 different area’s of the government. To end the investigation Trump would have to go to 5 different area’s and fire each office of government.

The plural of area is areas.

Apostrophes are not used to make a word plural.

And, no, Auto-Correct does not put in the apostrophe on its own.

You did it twice, R492. Revolting.

R493 you put the DL in Datalounge.

Trump cheats to win all his life. But one last cheat too many. And it's all finally coming home to roost.

The thing I find most amusing is he didn't think he would win and I'm not even sure he wanted to win. So here he is, being destroyed by something he may not have even wanted at the start.

Hubris? Temptation? He probably will be remembered in five hundred years, if the planet is still here, but not because of anything you'd want to be remembered for.

I feel no pity for him but he really seems poised to become a legendary tale of self destruction.

Did Sarah Sandwich seem half hearted today? It must be like Hitler's bunker around that fucking place.

R495, remember the photos of Trump and the First Lady the night after he had won. I wasn't sure which one was more unhappy. I think the Russians and his ego drove him to it, in that order.

Hope Hicks is still with wife and girlfriend beater Rob Porter.

Before that she had an affair with married Corey Lewandowski.

And the boss?

Would it be wrong to insist on an amendment that only people who've had political experience can run for president?

I'd start with mandatory disclosure of income tax filings.

A complete mental health evaluation would be another good place to start.

[quote]And the boss?

Yes.

As crazy as we know Mia Farrow to be, she fucking won Twitter last night.

Here is some info regarding the jurors and the trial, apparently the defense repeatedly asked for a mistrial, one juror wanted off due to a medical issue but was denied, and one juror claimed the others were discussing the case outside of the trial though the others said this did not happen, and this juror also complained the others were saying the "defense was weak".

Also, Judge Ellis commented that the jurors were intimidated and American history had never seen such a trial, then said "“that’s kind of a ridiculous thing for me to say.”

Thanks R505. At least Ellis didn't go along with all the mistrial requests but he is sure full of himself. I bet that woman juror has been a tattletale her whole life!

I’ve been on three juries and all three have had people discussing the trial amongst themselves before deliberations. You spend a lot of time in little rooms and hallways and after a few hours of "get to know you" chit-chat, there’s not much else to talk about. It’s literally the only thing all of you have in common.

Someone had an issue about statements that the Defense was weak?

Weren't they?

I agree completely, r323 / r422 .

The problem with people like Cohen and Omarosa is that yes, they're weasels and they're doing what they're doing not because it's the right thing but because it benefits them... that's fine as along as it hurts Dotard.. problem for me is that they're still weasels and I can't put much faith in them to not turn around and Weasel for him again.

Omarosa remains the weaseliest of weasels, but Cohen seems to have truly flipped.

None of them are heroes. It's good their self interest coincided with the public interest but do not mistake these indecent people for heroes. They squeal because they're caught. Jesus.

Rachel’s doing a deep dive into The Trump Foundation. Didn’t Trump constantly claim that the Clintons were using their foundation to line their own pockets? Hmmm. Yet again, projection.

R513 it's fascinating isn't it how pathological he is? You would think someone as crooked as he is would just keep his mouth shut but he always shows his hand by accusing others of what he does. What kind of psychosis is that?

[quote]A complete mental health evaluation would be another good place to start.

Might as well throw in physical health as well.

^ Ah kin tell ya right now, he's in great shape! Best Ah've seen!

And check me out on Dancin' with the Stars on ABC and mah sex tape on the internet!

R515 by an official Doctor... not someone who allows the patient to write his own letter.

His pathological projection has been going on for years. It's fucking bizarre and pretty much 100% reliable. In some instances it may be planned but a lot of the time it appears to be compulsive.

Well, heck, R515. Check out mah sex tape anyhow, bud.

What a lovely concurring trio of R487, R488 and R489, all in chorus and all saying we shouldn’t impeach because then there would be no prison.

Thank you for the next poster who patiently and accurately points out that impeachment and prison are not mutually exclusive.

[quote]Trump’s frustration with Sessions has even caused him to turn on Giuliani. Over the weekend, Trump blamed Giuliani for the entire Russia probe. According to a person to whom the conversation was described, Trump loudly said to his lawyer: “It’s your fault! I offered you attorney general, but you insisted on being secretary of state. Had I picked you none of this would be happening.” (The White House declined to comment.)

There's your money quote.

r521 Well you could have given me credit with a citation! :)

I haven't really been in many of the other threads so I'm curious if there's still a lot of Troll activity in defense of Dotard?

Just wondering if it's died down and if so is it a result of them being blocked by DL or if Russher is basically abandoning him as a lost cause.

Michael Avenatti on Dancing With The Stars PLEASE.

The Great Pumpkin just tweeted that he will be interviewed on Fox and Friends tomorrow from 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. How the hell is he going to handle focusing on something for 3 hours?

(Sorry, I'm not sure how to link a tweet. The link is too long for DataLounge, if I'm doing it right.)

I think Russher might be moving on to Rand Paul or Paul Rand, whatever the fuck his treasonous name is.

[quote] R493: Apostrophes are not used to make a word plural.

Not the Evening Punctuationist.

When Trump realizes that the end of his presidency is inevitable, I think he will implicant the Republicans that accepted Russian money. Seems like something he would do.

[quote]I think the Russians and his ego drove him to it, in that order.

More specifically, it was narcissistic rage resulting from being publicly shaded by a black POTUS.

r526 Here ya go.....

And yet... that epic President Obama takedown of the Fat Fuck lives on in its perfection.

The idiot was running before the President gave him a beating at that dinner.

WTF is wrong with the NYT. Just read the entire Habermann bullshit article just posted on Trump being "Cornered and Isolated". Did they just decide to concede the Pulitzers to the WaPo when this fiasco reaches its inevitable conclusion. Why the hell do they think "access" results in journalism?

are the palms turning in Meh A Lago, maggie?, judith wants to know

I don't think it was ego that made him run. I don't think he had a choice. Daddy Put Put gets what Daddy Put Put wants.

WSJ: Pecker told prosecutors that Trump knew about Cohen payments to Stormy and Karen McDougal

There should be some good headlines involving Pecker in the next few weeks. Hell, it would be great if they all just started:

"Pecker Spills on Trump..."

There is no 536, must be a troll.

Pecker doesn't run critical stories of Trump in the National Enquirer. Yet, there is so much sordid stuff on the Trumps, the deplorables would feast on it. To pass-up years of Trump gossip, something is amiss.

R536 Pecker Comes Clean on Trump....

Pecker All Up In Trump's Business...

interesting.

“WASHINGTON — Senior Republican Party leaders began urging their most imperiled incumbents on Wednesday to speak out about the wrongdoing surrounding President Trump, with Representative Tom Cole, a former House Republican campaign chairman, warning, “Where there’s smoke, and there’s a lot of smoke, there may well be fire.”

Only hours after the convictions of Mr. Cohen and Mr. Manafort, Representative Duncan D. Hunter of California was indicted on a charge of using campaign money to fund a lavish lifestyle, including the alleged purchase of golf shorts masked as a charitable veterans contribution. Those charges came only weeks after Representative Chris Collins of New York was arrested on charges of insider trading, something that has also tarnished a handful of his colleagues, including Representative John Culberson, an endangered Texas Republican. Mr. Collins and Mr. Hunter were Mr. Trump’s two earliest congressional supporters.

In Virginia, Representative Scott Taylor is accused of forging signatures to get an independent on the ballot this fall to help save his seat. And in Florida, Representative Vern Buchanan is accused of accepting a seven-figure yacht loan from a bank lobbying for last year’s tax cut, then purchasing the 73-foot vessel on the same day he voted for the measure he helped write.

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“It has been a really bad August,” as Mr. Cole put it.

Mr. Hunter’s Democratic opponent, Ammar Campa-Najjar, released a video declaring, “The division, chaos and corruption in Washington has gone too far.

The same Orrin Hatch who tut-tutted primly about Bill Clinton's peñis now says impeachable offenses are just dandy if you're a rich Republican.

“It has been a really bad August,” as Mr. Cole put it.

Gee, Tom, ya think?

The party’s over, folks.

The entire Republican Party.

Trump apologist and CNN flacktard Paris Dennard has been suspended from CNN while they investigate how dirty he used to be...

I know the popular memo is that Trump never expected to win. But I strongly disagree. I think he would never have run unless he knew he was going to win. He and the Russians had this doped out frame by frame before he rode down that escalator in 2015. There is no doubt in my mind.. Maybe he told Melania he "probably won't win" but anyone who knows him and who has observed him is that his fragile ego would not tolerate losing.

Shades of Richard Simmons and the copy machine!

Ammar Campa-Najjar is the sex.

Oh no, the Fat Fuck is losing ANOTHER Black friend.

The WaPo story:

A conservative commentator who was lauded by President Trump this week as “wonderful” and who has argued that past sexual indiscretions should have no bearing on Trump’s presidency was fired from Arizona State University four years ago for making sexually explicit comments and gestures toward women, according to documents and a university official.

An internal investigation by the university concluded that Paris Dennard, a surrogate during the campaign and now a member of the President’s Commission on White House Fellowships, told a recent college graduate who worked for him that he wanted to have sex with her. He “pretended to unzip his pants in her presence, tried to get her to sit on his lap, and made masturbatory gestures,” according to a university report obtained by The Washington Post.

According to the 2014 report, Dennard did not dispute those claims but said he committed the acts jokingly. The investigation began after the woman and a second female employee told superiors Dennard’s actions went too far and had made them uncomfortable.

Perhaps CNN can replace Dennard with Paris Hilton, Paris Jackson or even Paris Themmin.

All have about equal credibility as Dennard.

[quote]Senior Republican Party leaders began urging their most imperiled incumbents on Wednesday to speak out about the wrongdoing surrounding President Trump,

excellent. even the "imperiled" incumbents (i.e, those in purple districts) rely on the knuckle dragging, mouth-breathing 27% to win. Bad mouthing Il Douche, will certainly rally the rubes to come out for the RINO's

Trump Family, GOP and Fox News all need to go down for this conspiracy (that's only the domestic conspirators, of course).

Cohen's attorney says he will not accept a pardon...

Paris gets owned....

R556 I was actually wondering if it would be possible for the Plea Agreement to include something about not accepting a pardon. Anyone know?

Paris Dennard is toast.

And because I hate anything having to do with TYT here's a different link:

NEW: In an interview on Fox News, Manafort juror says there was a SINGLE holdout for the 10 counts that ended in a mistrial. The final votes were 11-1 for guilty. (They convicted Manafort on the other 8 counts of tax and bank fraud.)

ANY source for that other than Fox?

one thing even the stupidest deplorable understands and hates is someone cheating on taxes, goes along with the whole "resentment" schtick, usually reserved for "those people" getting all that free shit (obamaphones)

Since Fux would hate to admit to 11-1 for Manfort's guilt on those ten charges, I'd tend to believe them.

It will all come out eventually, regardless of who gets it rolling.

The one hold out was probably the one crying to the judge about everyone else.

That was tweeted by Marshall Cohen @MarshallCohen From CNN

Brian Williams just reported it on his show too

Mudd was ready to strangle that guy. His blood pressure probably jumped up to 300/240

I'm not entirely surprised that there was one fucking Trumptard who slipped onto the jury. The jury pool for the Eastern District of Virginia covers the whole eastern part of the state, and outside of the DC suburbs there are some fairly conservative areas included in that mix. I'd say that whoever the juror was made a calculated judgment to convict on 8 and hold out on the other 10. He had to have figured that if it was a hung jury on all 18 counts and the split was 11-1, then Mueller would definitely retry the entire case. And, Manafort might not get so lucky the second time around and have another reich-winger on the jury.

But, as it now stands, a retrial on the remaining 10 is unlikely. It won't materially change the sentencing calculation. AND, there is a second trial in DC. Manafort will not be so lucky as to get a ringer from the DC federal jury pool. I'd hazard a guess that the demographics will be more heavily weighted towards potential jurors who are younger, Democratic, and gay. Good luck skating next time out, Pauly.

And get this. This may really cook Trumps goose!

BREAKING: The Washington Post is reporting that close friend of Trump, unindicted co-conspirator and publisher of the National Enquirer, David Pecker told Mueller that con-man helped arrange the payoff of a porn star and a Playboy model to influence the 2016 election. #LastWord

Is there a link R569?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said he would consider pardoning his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who was convicted on Tuesday of bank and tax fraud, according to a Fox News reporter who interviewed Trump

The lone juror no doubt left her June Allyson Bladder Pads on the nightstand for all the maids and bellboys to see.

R569 Pecker is squealing to save his own butt, now that he knows Cohen will implicate him. The trouble is just beginning for the Dotard... there are a lot of Peckers (i.e. enablers) out there.

Sour-faced Aunt Pissypat is a hypocrite. Shocking, I know.

Two sets of rules: one for Democrats and one for Rethuglicans.

Despicable.

[quote] I'd hazard a guess that the demographics will be more heavily weighted towards potential jurors who are younger, Democratic, and gay.

and likely to be less melanin-challenged, perhaps?

Did we ever get an attendance count on the West Virginia rally? I'd love to know if the base is dwindling.

The more he talks the worse it is getting. There aren't enough adjectives or hyperbole in the world to accurately describe just how ridiculous Dump sounds when he opens his mouth.

Ok, I am FUCKING sick of listening to SSH. I thought they weren't going to play her blubberings any longer? I thought they were just showing a transcript? WHY ATTEND HER BRIEFINGS?

Cohen knows where all the bodies are buried and who helped bury them.... so flipping him essentially means all the enablers will have to flip to save themselves or face the consequences.

[quote]Did we ever get an attendance count on the West Virginia rally? I'd love to know if the base is dwindling.

According to the NYT's Maggie the Fluffer:

On Air Force One on Tuesday night on the way back from a rally in West Virginia, Mr. Trump repeatedly minimized the news, telling aides that the legal developments were not about him, but about Mr. Manafort and Mr. Cohen. He also groused over the optics of the rally, telling a person close to him that the crowd seemed flat and that some chairs were empty.

President Tre45on- no one currs anymore. The jig is up, bitch!

It is like a gushing waterfall now!

[quote] and likely to be less melanin-challenged, perhaps?

Well, actually, blacks would likely comprise the rest of the jury pool. In USDC in DC probably close to 40 percent or maybe even a little higher. And they sure as hell aren't going to vote to acquit this bastard.

Link to new thread for when this one fills up:

Yes, please

Paris Denmark is the worst, faggoty Uncle Tom who done ever lived. He ain’t never grabbed no pussy in his life...

The Uncle Toms of the world have really shows themselves in the last couple of years.

They will be even more outcast and shunned as this wraps up with all their masters in the clink.

We should take bets as to who is the next to flip and who will the the next indicted.

paris is burning

Paris Denmark will soon be giving Dawson a run for his money taking loads for $

I want to hear more about the asshole holdout juror.

you have to go to faux noise

piggy trump is heading to the butchers!

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He should rat out his kids for a plea deal and then Mueller can arrest all of them. Barron can be adopted by a multi racial gay family and start the healing process

beginning of the end

yeah, i think there could be a quick unraveling, let's hope it's a death spiral

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Going for 700.

Why is there always someone who is desparate to close a thread? It'll close when it closes.

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