Japan ruling party calls LGBT ‘unproductive’

The low birthrate is probably Japan's most pressing concern. I expect though Japanese men virgins at 30 obsessed with tentacle porn is a more proximate cause.

Hmmmmmm. Not sure just how literally to take that translation/ comment.

They should adopt all the doomed Chinese orphan babies. That would surely go down well with the Japanese ruling party.

I thought it was only one person, not the entire party.

lmao, someone is gonna have to tell that to the rent-boys spilling out of Shinjuku station...

The theater queens all over Setagaya quietly sharing studio apartments surely have an opinion, too.

Exactly R5. Gays of today are propping up the propaganda machines that are Japanese Entertainment and Fashion industries (ever heard of Johnny’s? Takarazuka?) which fascinate and attract the Western world.

What little digestible culture remains in Japan would rot away completely without, well, L&G anyway...

I bet these same Japanese ministers are cruising Shibuya for hustler kids...

Unreproductive maybe, and even that’s not accurate anymore.

On December 1 there's a huge AIDS benefit concert with homegrown celebrity singers/rockstars/actors at the Budokan, just 4 weeks after Mariah brings her two sold-out #1'S TOUR shows there. Sounds like the gays of Japan don't need or want permission from their government to live.

But, go off I guess, Ms. Sugita.

It’s true, but they shouldn’t say it.

Japan has a shrinking population, that’s likely the logic. Still, gays can have kids, lesbians sure the heck do

R1 has it. It's hard for us in America or the UK to understand how serious a problem low birth rates are. It's basically impossible to have a growing economy if people believe the total numbers of consumers will go down over time.

But the problem has NOTHING to do with gay people. There are more than enough straight people to have kids and grow the population. They are just choosing not to. And that's what they need to fix

Maybe the Asian gays would be more PRODUCTIVE if they stopped trying to message me on Grindr.

I was considering moving there on a whim several years ago as a student (well, more like running away there). Then Fukushima happened and their politicians starting spewing stuff like this, and I reconsidered.

Maybe I’d be ok as I’m a lesbian, though (no one bothers their asses about us).

^^^go to the Takarazuka theatre. They love w/w there.

They'd be better off doing some cultural engineering to convince everyone to accept gays matching with the opposite sex in artificial insemination for making children for some sort of family unit.

Also there wouldn't be an issue if straight people wanted children. They don't, because Japan is crazy hard to raise children in.

Jun Sena, a famous cross-dressing stage actress, notoriously had a very hard time with IVF and then with adoption and consequently spoke out on the nationwide problem of women/straights conceiving too late. She insists that teen girls and young women in particular aren’t warned or educated properly about their fertility clock or how to plan ahead for a family, and that young men aren’t primed to think about kids.

Apparently there’s now a spate of 40-something women in Japan, infertile or single, desperate to adopt only Social Services are so strict that not many of them get to take a child home to care for in the end. The more disturbing trend is the government insisting that some childless couples take in 20/30-something hikikomori boys (another word for socially-damaged, unemployed or agoraphobic/reclusive young men) as lodgers, because such boys have frequently been thrown out of their homes or schools or disowned.

Here’s more about it:

I ain’t no doodah flamer El-gee-bee-tea, honey. Who do you think I aaaaaam, Hard Gay?

Does anyone have any numbers re. the gay populace of Japan? Is the percentage as high as in the West? And are the younger generations more fluid, accepting and more likely to be bisexual as they are here?

R12 I saw an interesting movie about this last year at the CINEMACARAVAN outdoor film festival in Jogashima Park.

It was about how in 2030 the whole of Japan descends into economic collapse because of the age population, but for one little region called Sugamo which inexplicably becomes a rich enclave City (trading on some sort of rare mineral deposits in the ground, I think?). The plot follows two young men from another prefecture who make a fly-by-night trip to booming Sugamo to rob a bank there. In the attempt of the men gets shot by a laser from some sort of A.I. security robot, and from here the film becomes a comedy about the struggle of the other man trying to save his friend with the dubious assistance of emergency services automated call-handling (all done by A.I. as all the residents are old retired folk). It then takes a cyber-horror twist when we realise the automated 911 voice is actually very sinister and seems quite content to let the poor guy who got shot bleed to death...

Here's the trailer, in case anyone is interested. I haven't found a DL stream for the full movie yet.

Japanese people are racist and don't want immigrants.

(Cue Datalounge white supremacists to chime in).

Hear the citizens give their take on this. The young people think Sugita is insane lol.

In Sugita’s words, a life lived homosexually is nonsensical, abnormal and disordered. Nice.

Considering Japan's birthrate is near zero, it seems that straight people are the ones unable to have kids.

Bring the bigot to the US to see that at least 2 million families are headed by gays.

I don't get the fascination with this country. Japan is a bigoted culturally medieval nation full of souless little fascists just one step away from an Islamic state. The world gives all the excuses to this shitty nation that they don't give other Muslim nations I just don't get it.

R14 japaneses hate women and they hate even more lesbian women. Why would you move there?

R26; see the part of the video in R22 with the chubby young biracial woman from America (who seems lesbian?). She literally says that few people outright harass or bothers lesbians in Japan because gay women are seen as "cute" and non-threatening, whereas gay men will likely experience hostility and abuse from bigoted citizens.

You're correct that this is still a condescending misogynistic patriarchal attitude that needs to change ASAP, but it isn't a mindset likely to bring violent wrath down upon R14 like it might in certain Middle Eastern nations. She'd probably be completely fine living a quiet lesbian life, especially if she dates a younger biracial/Haafu or gaijin city gal while there (instead of a full-blood Japanese girl/lady of marrying age from a traditional or rural family).

"because they cannot have children."

Butt, Baby...

R26 true but more than that they hate Gaijin, and especially the Koreans (both stripes) & Chinese (which, fair enough). There’s not a lot of interbreeding or migration going on between the nations of Far East Asia like there is between European countries, and so the gene pool is stagnant and the birthrate has stuttered to a halt. Perhaps Ms. Sugita is such a nationalist she really wants to go down with the Titanic...

Oh for christssakes Japanese ruling party, give it up.

Back to Pearl Harbor.

So I guess it's out of the question for them to promote gay marriage and starting families?

That would help solve the problem just a bit no?

Are there any famous gay and lesbian actors, singers, tv hosts in Japan? I mean out and proud....any?

Thank goodness for that other island nation happy to have gays & lesbians, eh?

Idk of many R33....Hard Gay? Matsuko Deluxe?

Most of the ones that are tend to be the ‘queer’ crossdressing comic figure types. Or lesbian models.

Does Japan need more children?

R25, are you under the impression there is a Muslim majority in Japan? Wow.

Breeders can't see LGBTQ as something separate from them. They behave as if it is something odd that has been brought unto them for their consideration and approval (or disapproval). They always feel the need to 'vote' on it.

How often have I heard the subject broached and someone pipes-up, "Agh I don't go for nothin' like that!"?

Who asked you? Who cares what you think?

I love the Japanese, so I'm going to agree with this.

You just know she wanted to say “unpopular, “unprofessional” and “unacceptable” but softened the blow with this pseudo-sociological horseshit. Why aren’t the Japanese gay community angry about this?