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Japan ruling party calls LGBT ‘unproductive’

Japan’s ruling party has come under fire over remarks by one of its lawmakers who said gay and lesbian couples were “unproductive” because they cannot have children.

by Anonymousreply 4012/01/2018

The low birthrate is probably Japan's most pressing concern. I expect though Japanese men virgins at 30 obsessed with tentacle porn is a more proximate cause.

by Anonymousreply 108/07/2018

Hmmmmmm. Not sure just how literally to take that translation/ comment.

by Anonymousreply 208/07/2018

They should adopt all the doomed Chinese orphan babies. That would surely go down well with the Japanese ruling party.

by Anonymousreply 308/19/2018

I thought it was only one person, not the entire party.

by Anonymousreply 408/19/2018

lmao, someone is gonna have to tell that to the rent-boys spilling out of Shinjuku station...

The theater queens all over Setagaya quietly sharing studio apartments surely have an opinion, too.

by Anonymousreply 509/28/2018

Exactly R5. Gays of today are propping up the propaganda machines that are Japanese Entertainment and Fashion industries (ever heard of Johnny’s? Takarazuka?) which fascinate and attract the Western world.

What little digestible culture remains in Japan would rot away completely without, well, L&G anyway...

by Anonymousreply 610/01/2018

I bet these same Japanese ministers are cruising Shibuya for hustler kids...

by Anonymousreply 710/12/2018

Unreproductive maybe, and even that’s not accurate anymore.

by Anonymousreply 810/12/2018

On December 1 there's a huge AIDS benefit concert with homegrown celebrity singers/rockstars/actors at the Budokan, just 4 weeks after Mariah brings her two sold-out #1'S TOUR shows there. Sounds like the gays of Japan don't need or want permission from their government to live.

But, go off I guess, Ms. Sugita.

by Anonymousreply 910/22/2018

It’s true, but they shouldn’t say it.

by Anonymousreply 1010/22/2018

Japan has a shrinking population, that’s likely the logic. Still, gays can have kids, lesbians sure the heck do

by Anonymousreply 1110/22/2018

R1 has it. It's hard for us in America or the UK to understand how serious a problem low birth rates are. It's basically impossible to have a growing economy if people believe the total numbers of consumers will go down over time.

But the problem has NOTHING to do with gay people. There are more than enough straight people to have kids and grow the population. They are just choosing not to. And that's what they need to fix

by Anonymousreply 1210/22/2018

Maybe the Asian gays would be more PRODUCTIVE if they stopped trying to message me on Grindr.

by Anonymousreply 1310/22/2018

I was considering moving there on a whim several years ago as a student (well, more like running away there). Then Fukushima happened and their politicians starting spewing stuff like this, and I reconsidered.

Maybe I’d be ok as I’m a lesbian, though (no one bothers their asses about us).

by Anonymousreply 1411/01/2018

^^^go to the Takarazuka theatre. They love w/w there.

by Anonymousreply 1511/02/2018

They'd be better off doing some cultural engineering to convince everyone to accept gays matching with the opposite sex in artificial insemination for making children for some sort of family unit.

Also there wouldn't be an issue if straight people wanted children. They don't, because Japan is crazy hard to raise children in.

by Anonymousreply 1611/02/2018

Jun Sena, a famous cross-dressing stage actress, notoriously had a very hard time with IVF and then with adoption and consequently spoke out on the nationwide problem of women/straights conceiving too late. She insists that teen girls and young women in particular aren’t warned or educated properly about their fertility clock or how to plan ahead for a family, and that young men aren’t primed to think about kids.

Apparently there’s now a spate of 40-something women in Japan, infertile or single, desperate to adopt only Social Services are so strict that not many of them get to take a child home to care for in the end. The more disturbing trend is the government insisting that some childless couples take in 20/30-something hikikomori boys (another word for socially-damaged, unemployed or agoraphobic/reclusive young men) as lodgers, because such boys have frequently been thrown out of their homes or schools or disowned.

Here’s more about it:

by Anonymousreply 1711/02/2018

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by Anonymousreply 1811/08/2018

Does anyone have any numbers re. the gay populace of Japan? Is the percentage as high as in the West? And are the younger generations more fluid, accepting and more likely to be bisexual as they are here?

by Anonymousreply 1911/09/2018

R12 I saw an interesting movie about this last year at the CINEMACARAVAN outdoor film festival in Jogashima Park.

It was about how in 2030 the whole of Japan descends into economic collapse because of the age population, but for one little region called Sugamo which inexplicably becomes a rich enclave City (trading on some sort of rare mineral deposits in the ground, I think?). The plot follows two young men from another prefecture who make a fly-by-night trip to booming Sugamo to rob a bank there. In the attempt of the men gets shot by a laser from some sort of A.I. security robot, and from here the film becomes a comedy about the struggle of the other man trying to save his friend with the dubious assistance of emergency services automated call-handling (all done by A.I. as all the residents are old retired folk). It then takes a cyber-horror twist when we realise the automated 911 voice is actually very sinister and seems quite content to let the poor guy who got shot bleed to death...

Here's the trailer, in case anyone is interested. I haven't found a DL stream for the full movie yet.

by Anonymousreply 2011/13/2018

Japanese people are racist and don't want immigrants.

(Cue Datalounge white supremacists to chime in).

by Anonymousreply 2111/13/2018

Hear the citizens give their take on this. The young people think Sugita is insane lol.

In Sugita’s words, a life lived homosexually is nonsensical, abnormal and disordered. Nice.

by Anonymousreply 2211/19/2018

Considering Japan's birthrate is near zero, it seems that straight people are the ones unable to have kids.

by Anonymousreply 2311/19/2018

Bring the bigot to the US to see that at least 2 million families are headed by gays.

by Anonymousreply 2411/19/2018

I don't get the fascination with this country. Japan is a bigoted culturally medieval nation full of souless little fascists just one step away from an Islamic state. The world gives all the excuses to this shitty nation that they don't give other Muslim nations I just don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 2511/19/2018

R14 japaneses hate women and they hate even more lesbian women. Why would you move there?

by Anonymousreply 2611/19/2018

R26; see the part of the video in R22 with the chubby young biracial woman from America (who seems lesbian?). She literally says that few people outright harass or bothers lesbians in Japan because gay women are seen as "cute" and non-threatening, whereas gay men will likely experience hostility and abuse from bigoted citizens.

You're correct that this is still a condescending misogynistic patriarchal attitude that needs to change ASAP, but it isn't a mindset likely to bring violent wrath down upon R14 like it might in certain Middle Eastern nations. She'd probably be completely fine living a quiet lesbian life, especially if she dates a younger biracial/Haafu or gaijin city gal while there (instead of a full-blood Japanese girl/lady of marrying age from a traditional or rural family).

by Anonymousreply 2711/19/2018

"because they cannot have children."

Butt, Baby...

by Anonymousreply 2811/19/2018

R26 true but more than that they hate Gaijin, and especially the Koreans (both stripes) & Chinese (which, fair enough). There’s not a lot of interbreeding or migration going on between the nations of Far East Asia like there is between European countries, and so the gene pool is stagnant and the birthrate has stuttered to a halt. Perhaps Ms. Sugita is such a nationalist she really wants to go down with the Titanic...

by Anonymousreply 2911/22/2018

Oh for christssakes Japanese ruling party, give it up.

by Anonymousreply 3011/22/2018

Back to Pearl Harbor.

by Anonymousreply 3111/22/2018

So I guess it's out of the question for them to promote gay marriage and starting families?

That would help solve the problem just a bit no?

by Anonymousreply 3211/22/2018

Are there any famous gay and lesbian actors, singers, tv hosts in Japan? I mean out and proud....any?

by Anonymousreply 3311/22/2018

Thank goodness for that other island nation happy to have gays & lesbians, eh?

by Anonymousreply 3411/25/2018

Idk of many R33....Hard Gay? Matsuko Deluxe?

Most of the ones that are tend to be the ‘queer’ crossdressing comic figure types. Or lesbian models.

by Anonymousreply 3511/30/2018

Does Japan need more children?

by Anonymousreply 3611/30/2018

R25, are you under the impression there is a Muslim majority in Japan? Wow.

by Anonymousreply 3711/30/2018

Breeders can't see LGBTQ as something separate from them. They behave as if it is something odd that has been brought unto them for their consideration and approval (or disapproval). They always feel the need to 'vote' on it.

How often have I heard the subject broached and someone pipes-up, "Agh I don't go for nothin' like that!"?

Who asked you? Who cares what you think?

by Anonymousreply 3811/30/2018

I love the Japanese, so I'm going to agree with this.

by Anonymousreply 3911/30/2018

You just know she wanted to say “unpopular, “unprofessional” and “unacceptable” but softened the blow with this pseudo-sociological horseshit. Why aren’t the Japanese gay community angry about this?

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