It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43)

Link to previous thread for reference:

Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18) Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41)1) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Oh, Jared.

Um?

The previous thread is still open. Is this more fuckery?

No, R4. These threads always get started with some overlap so it's ready to go.

Jared DELETED articles at his discretion while running The Observer

Of course he did, R6. I'm only surprised to hear he has any, "friends."

Jared’s a billionaire. They always have friends. Friends who want to be introduced to the right people. Friends who want a boost up the socioeconomic ladder and will pay him back later. Favors for favors.

Does Jared still have cumgutters and, if so, who (besides himself) is filling them?

[quote]Jared’s a billionaire.

No, he's not.

But what about Jared’s articles?

[quote] Does Jared still have cumgutters and, if so, who (besides himself) is filling them?

He probably fantasizes about Avenatti filling that role.

Maddow just posted that she's back from summer break starting tonight.

Seen the pic before, even on DL. How old is it now?

Jared has a beautiful lean physique. Hey, maybe he isn't such a bad person after all.

Ivanka looks positively bovine next to him, a Slav peasant goosegirl, stumping around her muddy farm.

Can she pull plow?

[quote]Mike Pence in the 90s wrote two columns about removing a president on moral grounds.

[quote]Oh how he has changed his tune.

No, I’m still okay with it.

Back to Ellis: He seems to fancy himself as a wit, when he's only a clown.

Self-deprecating jokes about your own age aren't that difficult to master.

Besides everything that is going on, nice bod and attractive but my type!

Please, no more links to realclearpolitics.com, aka smearpolitics.com

All media should ban all WH press conferences and Dump rallies. No more. Just "highlights" and move on. Post the vid on your site.

Absolutely r23

I actually think that’s going to happen soon, r23. People are saying it out loud now. There are already anchors on MSNBC who are refusing to cover anything Huckabee Sanders says. It’ll spread.

That said, Fox will continue to fap furiously to his every word.

What I mean by highlights was by just reading what was said, not showing clips.

What needs to happen is more people need to start flooding the various Broadcasters, Programs, Stations, etc. and start demanding that they stop covering the rallies or not covering the news on Drumpf that they should, etc. Alongside that, there needs to be a threat that you'll boycott the shows AND contact their advertisers. People then also need to follow through and contact the advertisers and say you'll be boycotting their products as long as whichever network, station, program, etc. keeps doing or not doing xyz.

I've mentioned this before on various threads, this definitely works.

It always comes down to the money and they will always cater to which viewers they are scared of losing. The loudest voices don't always represent the majority and you'd be surprised at, in this circumstance, how many Conservatives are complaining to "liberal" media about what they cover. Progressives don't. So who do they continue to cater to?

Caption these photos.

Fuck you OP for making Jared look attractive.

R27 The media need to investigate those fake rallies for the fraud they are instead of covering them like real legitimate events. Right now they are just regurgitate the crap they are fed by Trump right through to the audience.

Mueller played High School Hockey with John Kerry?

Who knew?

And Lacrosse.

R30 write and tell them that.

R27 I am a Nielsen HH and I change the channel whenever they play a press conference or a Dump rally.

R29 Jared has always been a bit attractive but that pic- Yum! Damn boy, you gon be prime meat in the pokey.

r27, YEA! Good for you!

Privileged white men in high government positions know each other.

Big surprise there

I think there are powers trying to incite a civil war in America. Probably for shits and giggles. #illuminati

R31 they'll probably use that to scream how it proves the investigation is a witch hunt! Just watch.

Anyone watching Ari? Jesus Christ, who was that woman screaming about AntiFa? Is that still a thing? Poor Ari looked like he wanted to whip out a knife and cut the feed himself.

I just got back and haven't read through the last thread. Have we wished Robert Mueller a happy birthday?

Not gonna lie… Jared it hot!

R40 I've noticed the Deplorables on Twitter have started harping about Antifa whenever their own are caught on camera being the filth they are. Apparently it's okay for supporters of that cunt Tommy Robinson in the UK to trash a bookshop and threaten the staff because Antifa did something once.

I fucking loathe these people.

Stop covering the rallies. Boycott Huckabee press conferences, or only attend when cabinet members are there and have useful news. Stop interviews with Kellyanne and Rudy Giuliani. That is all Fabrications and spin. Add Corey L. to the list.

Miss Lindsay says she told Trump not to end the Mueller investigation because she wants the Republicans to win the midterms.

What about truth, justice, and finding out the depth of the conspiracy with the Russians, Miss Lindsay?

These threads are moving so fast! Quick comment on the nutso Manafort judge—my understanding is that most of his controversial comments were not made in front of the jury. I hope that’s the case. We all know that Manafort is guilty. My biggest worry is a rogue judge trying to affect the jury outcome... also, that the testimony will be too complex for the jury to follow.

Someone needs to check Mr. Ellis' bank records for recent deposits or offshore accounts

I believe Antifa was invented by Russians. Does anybody know an actual person in the group?

It seems fake.

Already up to 50 and I'm the first to congratulate OP? Just when I thought you'd run out of clever thread titles, up goes 43! Brilliant! Love it! As always, a million thank yous!

But with 45 coming up, you really have to come up with something special. Sorry for the pressure. :)

r47 Thanks. I found a few of the comments were made when the jury was out but I didn't know if the others were or not.

This is juicy but kind of complicated...there was a in-depth report on NPR today re the Charleston WV rally/murder.

Basically there is one woman who had enough money to bring a lawsuit to try to stop her name from being released as an organizer. I’m wondering if it’s Becca Mercer.

The rest of them are up the creek because snippets have leaked and they are terrible.

“But one anonymous woman, the one called "kristall.night," filed suit seeking to quash the subpoena that could unmask her and dozens of other users. She claimed the counterprotesters were intentionally seeking to "out" her as a member of the alt-right movement, putting her in fear of her own safety. Revealing her identity, her attorney argued, would infringe on her First Amendment rights to engage in "anonymous speech" and to associate with a politically unpopular group.

On Monday, however, a magistrate in California disagreed.

U.S. Chief Magistrate Judge Joseph C. Spero declined to fully quash the Discord subpoena, finding that the plaintiffs' interest in discovering her identity as a possible witness or co-conspirator behind the Unite the Right rally outweighed her right to speak anonymously on the Internet.”

#whoiscrystalnight

Rebekah Mercer?

Whoever it is, try had enough cash lying around to sue.

Transcripts from this mystery woman read as a bossy woman in charge.

Can’t wait for the reveal!

try=they

I love these cry-baby Nazis who want the freedom to harass and kill but then get all indignant and scared when their real names are exposed. I hope her name is leaked and she loses her job and everything she owns.

Funny replies 52-56 aren't showing for me. Blocked that SOB.

From the previous thread...

[quote]Iran: YAWN!

Oh honey. If Cheeto attacks, Iran, Iran will likely block the Straight of Hormuz (where 2/3rds of the world's oil passes through) and US gas will shoot to $8 per gallon. I'm guessing you'll be a bit more engaged in the story then.

Also from the previous thread, since I'm catching up from Monday:

[quote]Why was the server at Trump tower communicating with Alfa bank?

Here's the link to the internet theory on possible connections. This dude seems to believe it all has to do with syncing voter registration databases.

[quote] Iran will likely block the Straight of Hormuz (where 2/3rds of the world's oil passes through)

If Iran tries that the entire Saudi airforce, and a significant portion of the USAF will totally destroy Iran's navy, airforce and ports.

My guess is Iran won't do that.

That would make a lot of sense, R60. Terrifying as that might be.

Thought Antifa was a cross-dressing street hooker in Memphis?

[quote]If Iran tries that the entire Saudi airforce, and a significant portion of the USAF will totally destroy Iran's navy, airforce and ports.

Uh-huh. And *then* what happens?

You're assuming Iran would act rationally if/when attacked, which is adorable.

Combining two discussions from the previous thread:

There are supposed to be some more second-tier indictments coming soon and Trump is suddenly having blast-from-the-past meetings with some of his former campaign and administration officials like Hope Hicks on Air Force One and Lewandowski at a rally.

I think this idiot is stupid enough to meet with the people who have been informed that they are being indicted and I think these newly indicted idiots are stupid enough to meet with him. So, any chance this round of indictments includes Lewandowski and Hicks and others at that level. I'd consider them second-tier, no?

Watching special elections tonight it's really curious how polling for these elections has been almost perfect, like to the actual percentage points on election night, and yet the polling for 2016 was so off. It's almost like the polls in 2016 were probably also correct but there was some sort of interference that made the polling look bad.

R66 - Yep.

I would have assumed Hicks would have flipped in order to avoid an indictment... but her current actions makes me also assume she's a moron.

She was a moron for knowingly dating the guy who beat the shit out of his wife.

Alex, I'll take political morons for $500.

I’m worried that someone will get killed at the military parade in November, sparking a “civil war.”

Tell me about it, R66.

Maybe a European intelligence agency can figure out what happened in the election.

We know what happened, the RUSSIANS helped the REPUBLICANS CHEAT.

[quote]Maybe a European intelligence agency can figure out what happened in the election.

I think Mueller's got quite a bit of that. We know Dutch intelligence were closely tracking the Russian's US ratfucking throughout late 2016.

R69 in addition to wife beater Rob Porter didn't Hope Hicks, Official Pants Steamer to the Tre45onous Tramp, also have an affair with Corey Lewandowski?

R76, yes she did.

Some guy on MSNBC, a Republican, said stop covering Trump's rallies and just send the AP reporter pool in to cover it for the entire press corps. He said if something happens we can use the feed but all the networks need to boycott. He said Trump looks back there and counts all the microphones and cameras and press people in the press pen and he loves that. So take away his oxygen. he'll go nuts... or more nuts...

Damn, that skank is giving Melania a run for her money in the cock-sucking/leg-spreading department

Be Best, R79!

r78, sounds like David Jolly, one of the few reasonable (sane) Republicans out there.

He's even from Florida.

Repug women are huge slores.

That GAWD damn Judge Ellis! That fucker is shady as fuck (af for us youngums).

R78 sounds like that person is echoing the Conservative Columnist from the Washington Post who wrote the column a few days ago calling for the press to stop covering Drumpf's rallies. They said the exact same thing in the article that he should only be covered when something important comes up and it should be relegated to the papers.

I agree they need a propaganda blackout.

They wouldn’t be showing the live contents of a David Koresh rally so why would they show this?

Joan Walsh posted a photo of the Green Party candidate in the Ohio 12th district race posing with Jill Stein.

R86 So there is your Russian connection.

Reading elsewhere that this is typical Judge Ellis behavior. He's appointed for life and this courtroom is his fiefdom.

So much of the workings of government are incomprehensible and it took the Trump degradations for us to become aware of that.

Hope Hicks is acting very much like a Red Sparrow.

Was she secreted into the Trump Org. for this very purpose.

Why would a normal woman fuck Corey Lewandowski?

It all makes sense...

R69 Wow, Hope Hicks dated TWO ousted Trump aides that have a history of violence with women; Corey Lewandowski has a history of being violent to women as well.

R90 She likes to get beaten. Who's next? James Deen?

R90

Womp womp.

I would have watched a James Deen/Hope Hicks sex tape a few years ago.

Unfortunately he's fat now.

Let's play Hollywood matchmaker for Hope Hicks!

What famous celebs could she date next?

Burt Reynolds?

Josh Brolin???

Fuck Hope!

Hope Hicks could date Chris Brown.

Burt Reynolds? Burt Reynolds could be her grandfather.

Agreed, R97.

He's pretty feeble these days. His left hook would pack no punch.

Charlie Sheen.

Hope Hicks looks and acts like a Stepford wife.

Hope is Unity Mitford

The CPA who filed Manafort's fraudulent tax return has been fired by her firm.

r102, that picture makes her look like she's been arrested with handcuffs behind her back.

I LOVE IT!!!!!

Trump's first endorsement in Congress and part of his transition team Republican Rep. Chris Collins has been arrested for insider trading.

OOPS!!!!!

Jesus, elected Republicans are so fucking corrupt.

Honest Chris Collins. You have to trust a man with a face like this.

[quote]Funny replies 52-56 aren't showing for me. Blocked that SOB.

Who's my brave widdle boy?

This fills me with joy. Chris Collins is one of the biggest fucking idiots in congress and represents an Upstate district I am somewhat connect to. I love it! We need to get rid of John Katko - he isn't nearly as bad as Collins- and that cunt Claudia Tenney too.

No one should go to ask questions of Sarah, that would get her fired. Reporters should no longer go to his re election rallies either, there is no need to publish all his lies.

Is Collins up for reelection in November? Or if he resigns does the Gov get to appoint a Dem?

GOP Rep. Collins arrested? Music to my ears.

What kind of assholes would vote for Chris Kobach? He is an ignorant piece of lying shit...so let the assholes vote for him.

R110 everyone in the House of Representatives is up for re-election. But it would be interesting to know if N.Y. law reques a special election.

[quote] Funny replies 52-56 aren't showing for me. Blocked that SOB.

I see nothing objectionable in those posts, just speculation that one of the unnamed Charlottesville co-conspirators is secretly Rebekah Mercer.

Chris Collins- member of Trump's shady transition team. Maybe they can use this arrest to squeeze him on other things.

Congressman Collins was plucked from obscurity to be Tre45onous Tramp's number one sycophant.

Be best, Dotard Donnie. Be BEST!

r115 Scum seeks its own level.

Wow, gone for a few days and missed an entire thread!

Thanks for the new thread, OP!

Did anyone catch what's going on in MI? Republicans apparently successfully prevented any Democrat from getting their name on the congressional primary ballot.

The only way a Democrat can now unseat the Republican is for people to write in a name.

How do you become a Nielson HH?

Sounds like Hope Hicks is the WH pass around slut. The proverbial "village bicycle". Everyone gets a turn.

I actually wondered if HH is shared between Kush and Ivanka... or if she solely belongs to Ivanka.

Republicans are the Crooks and Greed Party.

Putin got mail! Hand delivered.

Rand Paul is a traitor to his country just like nearly every other Republican.

I'd love to see the Mercers punished for their evil.

R118, please clarify or cite your source.

I'm in Michigan. On the ballot for my area, US Senate seat still had Stabinow (ran unopposed as Democratic), and there were about 5 Democrats running for the US House of Rep in my district.

OMG Paul Manafort’s accountant is my neighbor! I literally had no idea. She is a really nice person and was the accountant for our condo board. That position just became available so I’m assuming she was let go.

R126, ask her if anyone else in her firm did similar stuff. Something about that press release struck me as hypocritical posturing.

OMG,R126!!!! This is your big chance. Do an interview. By that I mean have a conversation with her and get her to talk about Manafort and her impressions and experiences. She was given immunity, she's already testified in court and if you were able to write it up you could sell it and make some $$$. I'm assuming she also lives in your Condo complex?

She does live in my condo building, yes. I’m not sure which floor she’s on but I run into her in the elevator occasionally. I’m already on her good side for some stuff I did for the board recently so I’ll use that to open up a conversation about this next time I see her.

By the way, I’m also the person who helped solve the Soft Butch Sous Chef case by urging my friend who had hooked up with David Messerschmidt to hand over his Craigslist emails to the police which helped locate the killer. So I am clearly close to ALL the big D.C. dramas.

Will you be my best friend r126?

R125

R125 I guess you're not in that District.

I can understand why the candidate were denied ballot status in Conyers district. Wayne County was correct to deny them on the basis of not having enough valid petitions signatures. But in the case of the guy in the Upper Peninsula where he was the only Dem to file, and it was the address that was in question he should definitely have been allowed a place on the ballot. I agree with the dissenting judge. See? Who you elect to the bench really counts locally. The state appeals court judges are elected in Michigan, and 90% of the time most people have no idea who they are or what they stand for. Judges are Non partisan on the ballot.

R133 here. If it could have been determined that the address that he used was acceptable for the USPS, then he should have been allowed.

None of these cable news channels are perfect. I watch MSNBC the most because they tend to be the most probing on details addressed comparatively less elsewhere. CNN has some good content, but the hiring of party hacks for these silly, staged debates are annoying and yield little added information.

Murdoch's Fox News is doing the most damage to the country. The network is blatantly undermining the investigative and judicial processes as it pertains to DJT and cohorts. It operates as If it is state run GOP TV.

Sheppard Smith is good at delivering news. Chris Wallace does well conducting interviews. And Judge Napolitano is at least realistic when it comes to interpretations and specifications of the law. The rest of Fox News is essentially propaganda, distortions, spin, and projection. Sean Hannity, Jenine Pirro, and a few others, have cast aside professionalism in their shows.

Trump's base listens to Fox because the network reaffirms their biases and plays on their fears. It Fox reinforces something untrue or unsubstantiated, their viewers will believe it.

The only effective way to confront Fox is a campaign to list and boycott their advertisers in an organized way. That is hard to do, but is possible. Also, the Murdoch & sons media empire needs intensifying scrutiny. Perhaps a future Congress will put them on the hot seat.

The last time I had the misfortune to hear Fox, they were ignoring any mention of collusion or the Trump-Russia connection. They did however repeat "mainstream media" and "liberal media" repeatedly. Also, threw in some fear mongering over immigration and guns control. Very, rah, rah, USA #1 with cheesy, patriotic country music.

Collins caught. Imagine this has some other politicians nervous.

R118/R132, you're right, neither of the situations in the article are from my district so I was not aware.

However, the good news is that in the 13th district, (where the 3 were disqualified due to invalid petition signatures) there were 5 other Democrats that were on the primary ballot, and no Republicans were even running.

[quote]Tlaib faced off against five other Democrats in the primary that should be decisive in the heavily-Democratic district, where no Republicans are running for the U.S. House seat vacated by John Conyers.

Counteroffer.....

I wonder what Ghouliani's counter offer will be? Oh, I bet something like this:

"Orange will agree to be interviewed for 15 minutes. You may not ask him any questions re: collusion, conspiracy, Russia or his taxes. Anything he says cannot be used against him and if he agrees to be interviewed you have to drop the case within 3 days of the interview and say he did nothing wrong."

Last night someone on msnbc said Ghouliani will want to exclude any questions on why he fired Comey as well as on Gen Flynn if I heard it right. He says Cheeto has already said all he have to say. Which probably isn't going to work for Mueller. Cheeto said different things at different times, and that's the least of it.

Will she swallow her MAGA brooch when she can't get his attention, though, R101. Loved your reference.

Everyone gets a RIDE, R119. My sister was the village bicycle in the 80s in Evanston, Il.

R126/E129 is already a DL Folk Hero! <3

Thank you so much, R143! I wondered if anyone would. You are further proof that this is still the DL I know and love!

You know, all this talk of "negotiations" has me perplexed. Is it customary for defense attorneys to negotiate testimony with Prosecutors and insist on limits to what they are willing to talk about? I don't recall this ever happening before. And I have to wonder if these negotations are for another purpose. Because if there truly is something Mueller has that Trump's defense also know he has, and it could result in charges for Trump, then maybe these negotiations are exploratory and prelimiary to a Trump exit . I know. It's my fantasy.

My local news station, going over the top stories said “President Trump today appeared at a rally in —— to support the Republican candidate for Congress.” It then showed Trump telling 2 lies at the rally and offered no correction of those lies. They moved on to the next quick story.

Here's my counter-offer to your counter-offer: go fuck yourself

Shoot the Messenger....

Archive of kristall.night's Discord messages

I'd be happy if Mueller showed Trumpco what they have, says "if you promise not to run in 2020" I won't............................................

[quote] OMG Paul Manafort’s accountant is my neighbor!

I have a feeling my neighbor is his landscaper in the Hamptons. He owns a landscaping firm and is a mini Nazi; a creep. They won’t give out the name of his landscaper, though, which pisses me off.

Does Rand Paul not look like a guy who’s been drinking & drugging for a week and was just picked up by police for DUI?

He looks like he has rancid breath.

R150 = juicy

Why is Ivanka suddenly making a reappearance? I find that suspect as hell. Almost, like Trump thinks he's going to get away with his shit and establish Ivanka as the new Empress. What was in that letter from Piggy to Putin?

R154, I believe the DL term is halitosis face.

I thought Rand Paul was a Never Trumper ...

Why the fuck is Rand Paul delivering a letter from Trump to Putin unless it has sinister content? There is a U.S. embassy and Ambassador in Moscow. Normal protocol has the Ambassador delivering such letters. But this shit isn't normal.

[quote]Here's my counter-offer to your counter-offer: go fuck yourself

Al, I believe the correct response would be: "Go fuck yourself you fucking cocksucker"

R160: That was a different episode.

Crystal Knight uses proper grammar and sure is bossy. She seems college educated and rich enough to hire private attorneys.

Hmmmmm....

Could also be Ann Colt

Rand sure travels a long way to get away from his neighbor.

Reddit AMA question to Rick Wilson: Two years ago you and a few others hinted at Trump Oppo that even the Evangelical sycophants would turn their backs on him. Will this ever come out? Is it straight outta Russia ?

Answer: Watch Cohen. Fun is just starting. And that line of yuck wasn't about the pee tape. That was all right here at home.

Ann Coulter is a huge fag hag. Not her.

War drumbeat?

“Crystal” should be revealed so the murder victim’s parents can sue her. She obviously has the means to pay damages.

The Paul’s are Kentucky hill trash.

And not the good kind.

Wait....who is Crystal Knight? Wasn’t that an alias of Milo? Or one of his passwords or something?

And why don’t we know who QAnon is! The NSA can hunt that down in less than a day and leak it to the media.

We need a big “reveal” reality show style.

My sides! Trump administration is “hitting” Russia with new sanctions! But first Rand Paul had to deliver a letter to Putin.

This is hilarious. Sanctions. Really?

R173> I guess Rand delivered the "apology" or "sike" letter ahead of the sanctions announcement.

Damn r150, that's some blatant, in your face, unapologetic racism right there, how do people who think this way even look at themselves in the mirror?

Some of the pictures and images on that discord are disgusting pieces of trash, much like the people who put them there I assume.

Oh, look. Russian hackers have penetrated the systems of certain counties in certain swing states, just like they did in 2016.

R176, where are the democratic officials screaming this from the rooftops? Where is the anger?

This is why I hate us. Republicans would be talking about this on every channel and to every reporter. They would hold press conferences and go wild 24 hours a day. Democrats, learn how to fight!

Lordy, there might be (more) tapes.

And there's a Trump tweet for everything.

It really shows where the media's loyalties are. For the most part they treat Trump and Right Wingers with kid gloves. Oh no! we can't call Trump a crook or a liar ... but we need to ask the most important question there is: How unprofessional is Hillary handling her emails?

it should be fairly easy to find out who the landscaper in the Hamptons was. Find out where Manafort's Hampton's abode is and just ask around as to who handled the grounds.

I love that the same guy who lives in the same condo with Manafort's crooked accountant is the guy ho talked his friend into breaking the Butch Sous Chef case wide open.

I hope omarosa has him on tape sounding decrepit and doddering. That will piss him off to no end.

R178 That Trump and his best vipers.

I don't give a shit what she has. She had ample opportunity to show her patriotism and 'concern' before the election. Is this newly recorded information in the WH? If so, she's violated the law. I don't defend that fuck, but she's a complicit bitch.

R184 Taping him is not a crime like collusion is not a crime! A moron gets what he deserves.

What law has she broken, R184? She can tape her own conversations.

R186 Unless she signed some agreement as employee of the WH. But then again when has Trump ever respected legality.

Caitlyn Jenner is lobbying Congress. You give Paul Ryan a piece of your mind, Caitlyn.

She probably broke a giant pile of contracts with Trump, but one-party recording is legal under D.C. law.

They all know Trump is a crook.... hence the recording.

Poor Donald.

R191 Boo hoo... translated to Deplorable, womp womp.

So Omarosa was just roaming around the West Wing with her unsecured cell phone making recordings of the POTUS probably while he was chatting on his unsecured cell phone.

That is one crackerjack security team at the White House.

Well, R193, they let Michael Wolff sit around and talk to people for months.

Wasn't there a moment, like either right before or after Omarosa left the WH that they said from now on there were no more electronic devices allowed? People speculated at the time that it had to do with Omarosa.

RIGHT at the time she left... Maybe a day or two before?

Stop using that pic of trump from his Twitter account. There are hundreds of unflattering pics of that pig to choose from.

Omarosa was terminated in December 2017; the ban on personal electronic devices was announced in early January 2018.

Don't forget that she said we all need to bow down in front of him.

SCALDING TEA about to break about Devin Nunes on Rachel now

R197 - this one is for you!

R201 it looks like he shit his pants.

Which it says he did. Too bad it's satire.

That is way too much visual, r201. Please warn before doing that again.

"He's one of the top draws, if not the top draw for people not named President Trump," says Jason Miller, a top aide to the 2016 Trump campaign.

Devin Nunes is a fetid turd. Rachel played audio of him explaining the Republican strategy to end the Mueller investigation

R207, essentially he’s saying that obstructing justice is all Republicans care about. That’s the only rationale that they have for keeping the House.

Secret recording everywhere these days? What's this world coming to? Can the wicked have no peace? LOL

The part I love is that Nunes said Cheeto's tweets are sometimes cringeworthy -- this when Cheeto has just recently tweeted in support of his reelection.

Sometimes?

Yes, R211, he qualified the statement. LOL

Good, I hope this destroys both Devin Nunes and that woman that the fundraiser was for.

Hell, I hope this helps destroy the whole Republicunt party's chances in November.

You goin' down REPUBS!

Laurence Tribe sez

Saw clips of Miss Lindzey on TV twice today. She's now Kavanaugh's handler, and implies she's handling Trump. Next, she'll be declaring she's handling Putin. Oh wait, that's her nemisis Curly Paul doing that.

Full transcript here

Laurence Tribe is correct r214

[quote] Find out where Manafort's Hampton's abode is a

I know exactly where Manafort’s house is. It’s about 4 miles from me. And if I were to enter the estates of people in his neighborhood and ask who manaforts landscaper is, they would say, “It’s the one with the Mexican guys.”

I would not be giving these losers any money because they’re going to be sent packing in November.

They should just flush the money down the toilet and save the energy.

Every time I think the Repukes can't be any more horrible and hypocritical, they prove me wrong.

Devin Nunes is a fat sissy who smells. SAD!

The woman whose fundraiser Nunes appeared at when he remarked candidly, is House GOP Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers, the highest ranking female GOP in the House of Represetatives. She serves Washington States' 5th Legislative District. Yesterday Washington State had its Primary for the 2018 November midterm election. McMorris Rodgers, according to Aug. 8 2018 evening election returns posted at the Secretary of State website for Washington, has 47.81% of the vote tally so far. In 2016, she had only a little more than 42%, but she competed with many more Republican, Libertarian and Independent candidates in the primary. The Democratic Party Candidate, Lisa Brown, managed over 31% in that 2016 Primary. This year, the 2018 Primary Democratic Party candidate, who will challenge McMorris Rodgers for WA-5 in November, has 46.82% of the vote.

After this news item from Rachel Maddow, I don't expect McMorris Rodgers' popularity to soar with WA-5 voters. I expect Lisa Brown to wisely exploit those candid remarks, and I expect her to replace McMorris Rodgers.

I bet this goes exactly nowhere. I'm getting so fucking restless. Manafort better go down hard, followed by all the other traitors, soon.

Georgia defends voting system despite 243-percent turnout in one precinct

Too bad this tweet from @funder Scott Dworkin was swiftly deleted, it was stimulating:

[quote] BREAKING: Four Republicans have now told me GOP Rep Devin Nunes and GOP Rep Dana Rohrabacher are both under federal investigation. They have all been told to stay away from Nunes, his staff and his committee staff. Listen to the story below. #DworkinReport

Ah misspoke. The retweet was rescinded. Here's the link to the Dworkin Report.

Miss Jill Wine-Banks looks lovely in powder blue tonight.

I'm in love with Jill Wine-Banks. I absolutely love her!

Me too r228

I want to kidnap Devin Nunez, keep him captive in my basement, strip him naked, tie him to the stairwell, and feed him his own feces. And that's just to start....

Suggestion for Part 45: "Who's Hung Up on Tree, Son?" with a photo of DJTII (anagram: IDJIT!!) sitting on a tree stump. Maybe someone can Photoshop or GIMP up a noose.

Where’s the disappearing Jason Chaffetz? He high-tailed it out of Congress pretty quickly. I hope he gets a knock at the door. I think he resigned because he’s dirty.

There was also that bizarre news crawl on abcnews that got quickly taken down about P.M. and 5 manslaughter charges.

Could be nothing but holy cow what a typo.

So why does Dump attack CNN most of the time and not MSNBC? Is it because he got a paycheck from NBC for over a decade? And they have the behind the scenes tape?

Does Drumpf ever say much on Maddow? I'm surprised he doesn't say a lot more.

On this day in history...

This Nunes recording is beyond the pale. If Dems and the legitimate media don’t draw attention to this asshole, corrupt atrocity, they should all be fired.

R237, they do. The Democrats keep calling it all out all the time. The problem is this:

Democrats: Look at these crimes and atrocities against Democracy and all this incontrovertible proof and ironclad evidence!

Media: Oh. That's interesting. Now, here's the latest from today's Trump rally!

[quote]Crystal Knight uses proper grammar and sure is bossy. She seems college educated and rich enough to hire private attorneys.

I'll take "who is Rebekah Mercer?" for $400, Alex.

The Jeopardy jokes are tiresome and lack any cleverness or originality. Do we have a Jeopardy Troll? The “joke” at r239 doesn’t even make the effort to play correctly or stick to format.

Nice to see Nunez admit to obstruction of justice.

But, my big take away is that the Manafort trial steered away from Trump. Even though Gates gave public testimony of his crimes with Manafort, Gates remained on the Trump campaign and Trump transition team. Mueller has all of his testimony banked for future indictments. Gates may become America's favorite witness.

A new Trump reality show:

[VO: You may have talent but do you have The Goods???]

America's Favorite Witness!!!

R241 Unfortunately it's too late for most to see your post. It'll get lost in the morning news frenzy.

But I just laughed my ass off!

As I stated in the past, this current GOP is ALL about seating another Supreme Court judge (Kavanaugh?). Now the NRA is suddenly not bankrupt? Now dumb dumb Nunes is caught on tape saying this! You can bet that NRA money came from Ru$$ia. We NEED to Stop this from happening at all costs. We need to hear this on the news now. Come on people...call your representatives!

[quote]Stop using that pic of trump from his Twitter account. There are hundreds of unflattering pics of that pig to choose from

Nobody is "using" it. When people link to a tweet, the link automatically shows as background their account pic.

Unfortunately, you will have to stare at this Cheeto pic when ppl link to one of his tweets. Make peace with it.

I've said it before, but I feel like every time Mueller's team might be getting close to wrapping up and presenting its findings, something new comes up where they're like, "Okay. Never mind. Back to work to go catch THIS asshole now."

Giuliani triggered this reset ever time he appeared on television. And now Nunes has with this tape.

Who knows if anything will even come of the tape? I have yet to hear anything about it this morning on any of the networks (including MSNBC). Who knows if the story will have any legs?

They discussed it on msnbc

[quote]The Jeopardy jokes are tiresome and lack any cleverness or originality.

My bad. I was unaware we have a moderator regulating sourcing and quality of jokes.

I do so look forward to hearing examples of your shining, sparkling wit.

*rolls eyes*

For Christ sake, obviously Trump had to get a message to Vlad that he was sorry for the new sanctions...that he will never enforce.

I heard the letter was "introducing" Rand Paul to Putin. You know, this is my buddy who's totes ready to commit treason for y'all, do him a solid if you can.

Did you see Collins last night, he stood there lying in front of the camaras, lying with such conviction! I am sure Trump was so proud.

Maybe Hop Hicks was there to take dictation for that letter.

r247, on Morning Joe? I must have missed that part.

Thanks. That makes me feel a little better.

Before this thing is over, everyone in the House is going to be investigated.

But ultimately, what can they charge Nunes or anyone on that tape with? Being cynical, unpatriotic assholes? Is there a real crime in there? Any legal minds out there can spell it out?

[quote]. I was unaware we have a moderator regulating sourcing and quality of jokes.

You MUST be new to DataLounge

r248 There are several moderator-wannabes, each with her own Code of Conduct kept private until a violation happens. "Hpw DARE you anagram Charles Dickens novel titles for vulgar humour! Welcome to my BLOCK list!"

That Rudy.....ever the cock-eyed optimist!

r258, I hope that doesn't mean that Mueller is thinking of giving in to Trump's lawyer's demands.

Because that would be bullshit.

Oh please. This whole "will he or won’t he" interview nonsense is just a distraction; the magician waving a red handkerchief with his right hand while his left hand is stealthily doing something he doesn’t want you to see.

Those mock rehearsals in NJ to prepare DJT in case there is an interview with Mueller must have been a hoot. Miss Lindsey played the prosecuting examiner while Hannity, Levin, and others critiqued.

Miss Lindsey looks NOTHING like Bill Talman!

"Now I’m just a simple country lawyer..."

[quote]Oh please. This whole "will he or won’t he" interview nonsense is just a distraction; the magician waving a red handkerchief with his right hand while his left hand is stealthily doing something he doesn’t want you to see.

To me, the "will he or won't he," is a concoction of his damaged brain putting citizens in "suspense," because he thinks his entire life is a reality game show.

One on one, there are those seductive powers Miz Lindz has with affluent, naughty menz. These Trump saga characters are right up her alley and she's having a field day with them.

I agree that the interview being negotiated is a diversion. I also think it’s an attempt to delay the investigation by making this non-issue an issue.

Saw this on Twitter.....the letter Trump sent to Putin via Paul.....hysterical.....

@balthsbart Following Following @balthsbart More Replying to @CraigRozniecki Dear Pooty

Please hurry up with the ack-hay of the ection-lay

So sorry couldn’t give you US iplomat-day to orture-tay.

But asbestos! Am I right?

Love & Kisses 😘😍😈 PS. Please don’t eak-lay the ape-tay of ooker-hay inkle-tay

(Obviously this is the original coded version)

11:52 PM - 8 Aug 2018

Unfortunately it will be very hard to unseat Nunes. His district might as well be in Portugal. It’s home to Portuguese (by way of the Azores) dairy farmers who all stick together, practically like the Amish or the Mormons. Nunes so strongly identifies with the Azores he spent years trying to get the American military to put air bases there. It’s in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. He wanted some military intelligence group to be based there. The plans were to put the intelligence center in London. Nunes accused the military intelligence people of wanting to keep their cushy lives in London, closer to all the NATO countries, rather than live in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Well, DUH.....

The guy is in a frenzy over Trump and keeping trump happy & safe. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump announces some mitary base will be put in the Azores. Btw, one of the Americans who visited the Azores with him on a fact finding tour said the Americans were being strong armed by the Azoreans/Portuguese and Nunes took us their cause, leaving the other Americans to wonder whose side Nunes was on. When they had briefings, it seemed Portugal knew of contents of them the next day.

Manafort prosecution made a motion some of the biased outbursts the judge made the other day were wrong. (Sorry in advance if I mess up quoting).

[quote]“The Court’s sharp reprimand of government counsel in front of the jury on August 8 was therefore erroneous,” the prosecutors wrote. “And, while mistakes are a natural part of the trial process, the mistake here prejudiced the government by conveying to the jury that the government had acted improperly and had violated court rules or procedures. The exchange could very well lead the jury to reach two erroneous inferences: (a) that Mr. Welch’s testimony is not credible because he was improperly privy to the testimony of other witnesses, and (b) that the government sought to secure an unfair advantage by secreting its expert in the courtroom without permission. This prejudice should be cured.”

The judge actually apologized in front of the jury.

[quote]“I was critical of counsel for … allowing an expert to remain in the courtroom,” he said before testimony began. “You may put that aside… I may well have been wrong.”

[quote]“Any criticism of counsel should be put aside — it doesn’t have anything to do with this case.”

Thanks for posting that R269.

This space force stunt is peculiar. On the one hand it is silly, on the other hand, it could be used against the other branches in the event of a coup.

The right wing is setting up their own army from space.

The can control all earthly activity from space including cellphones, imaginig satellites, drones, nuclear weapons, lasers you name it.

The deplorables are so angry and feel slighted but I’m wondering why aren’t the pissed at republicans?

Where are the factories that were promised?

Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall, not by cutting senior citizens social security

Where’s all those conservative principals?

The tariffs?

Jobs still won’t pay their employees a living wage

Harley Davidson?

What Space Force stunt?

I still swear it sounds like a stupid Saturday morning cartoon.

The whole idea of it is a stunt. It could be a way to wrestle power away from America’s military and give it to the cabal.

.....not to mention the BILLIONS of dollars that would be available to the grifters to bilk from the government.

[quote] his left hand is stealthily doing something he doesn’t want you to see

Pics please.

R240 = Alex Trebek

Thanks R268 I didn't know the background on Nunes. Tough luck unless the Dems can recruit a "Nunes" of their own without the crazy.

Let's do what we can to flip the House in November and give Nunes the powerless life of the minority he deserves.

I have a feeling we will all be learning about this mysterious Crystal Night in the near future.

She sounds like a real piece of work.

UPDATED at 9:01 p.m. ET Wednesday:

A federal judge in California has ruled that a confidential messaging app must release the identity of a user who is accused of helping plan violence at a white nationalist rally last year in Charlottesville, Va.

Andrea Mitchell is calling out Cowardly Ryan and Kathy McBoris

@mitchellreports

.@repdonnaedwards on the Nunes tape: I lay this at the foot of speaker Ryan and now Kathy McMorris Rodgers. This is so disappointing, knowing her. It lays bare the agenda, which is to protect the president. #AM

The other strange thing about space force is Putin keeps talking about it, sort of. In the Politico story where they claim to have a leaked document outlining what Trump and Putin talked about in Helsinki, the issue of weaponizing space came up. Putin also talked about it at the press conference.

So what is the angle here? We know any sanctions the Trump admin puts on Russia are simply to try to prove Trump isn't in their pocket, which he is. He won't do anything Putin doesn't want him to. So is Space Force! to show he's tougher than Putin or trying to defy him? Or does Trump's toddler brain just think Space Force! sounds cool?

The whole thing is just bizarre.

R280, this is particularly relevant since the fuckers are staging an anniversary rally this weekend in Washington.

Say what you will r271, but those Space Force hostess uniforms are to die for!

I hope all of you are getting the significance of the name Crystal Knight as the female mastermind for these alt-right rallies. Krystallnacht is German for Crystal night, or night of broken glass and it was the night that Brown Shirts in Germany smashed windows of all known Jewish businessmen in Germany, synagogues, and homes. Government authorities did nothing. Many Jews were killed, 30,000 were rounded up and sent to concentration camps. People who pretend (like our president) that "there are good people on both sides" have never studied history. It's all part of a white supremacy movement that sees all people not from northwestern Europe as inferior people, not worthy of rights or dignity.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

On the Collins front....

Pardon the Fox link, but that's where the distraction is covered. Graham is again criticizing the FBI.

Since Graham does regular interviews, sometimes more than once a day, before cameras, when will one of these anchors actually press him to defend his claims and question him on motive?

Miss Lindz cussing again.

Potty mouth, r289!

Space Force 1988!

PIGS

IN

SPACE

Kristallnacht was exactly what came to mind when I saw "Crystal Knight", R285. They don't even try to hide it anymore.

When I click on r286 I get a recap of some of Trump’s shenanigans, but nothing having to do with pee pee or 1987.

Speaking of Pigs in Space....

A question: do any Republican elected representatives seem to deliver 'coded' or ambiguous messages in a 'I am blinking. I need help. I am a hostage. I don't want to be taken down. I have been threatened by my own party' way on their television interviews or town halls? I'm thinking the ones brave enough to meet with their constituents are the ones least likely to be found guilty of the grand machinations.

The Senatrice better watch what she says, since the FBI no doubt has dirt on her and her gentlemen callers. All it would take is a simple leaking of her peccadilloes to a news organization.

So all those “fiscal conservatives” were just racists after all.

The Hill: Federal deficit jumps 20 percent after tax cuts, spending bill

Ms Knight could also be Laura Ingram.

Think rich, white and bossy.

So when do we find out who she is?

I imagine any day now with the judge’s ruling. With this weekend anniversary coming up, it should be a hot topic.

I’m guessing whoever she is will be sitting this one out.

Just now on Ari Melber:

Mueller is going to subpoena Randy Credico

I wasn't familiar with this character but apparently he's an "associate" of Roger Stone and Assange. Seems like Mueller is tightening the noose around Stone.

Kristall.night has a publicity hound lawyer. The case is likely to be appealed to the Supreme Court before we learn Kristall.night's true identity.

Do we know why Roger Stone was dressed as Dick Tracy on Anderson Cooper yesterday?

Only Mueller knows, but any predictions on when his probe will come to an end? I can't imagine he'll time it before the midterm elections.

Isn't the first amendment set aside if the speech in question calls for or incites violence?

I hope not. I hope he schedules it for next winter.

I’m under the impression that cases like this take many years to come to fruition

This day in age her identity will come out eventually.

Credico was on Cuomo last night, and what a skeevy, lying shitbag he is.

A bit of an aside, and in memory of the great Terry Pratchett who 'got' this Manafort shit and his cronies:

From the novel Snuff: "...but what should we do when the highborn and wealthy take to crime? Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger, how high would the gallows need to be to hand the rich man who breaks the law out of greed?"

*hang*

I imagine the rich would rather be handed.

You'd think someone as old as Roger Stone would have the manners to know you're not supposed to wear a hat indoors.

R268 or whatever your number was, there already is a large US military base in the Azores.

I guess Nunes' dairy farming constituents aren't affected by wild fires or drought or tariffs.

Roger Stone and manners are as far apart as you can imagine.

Roger Stone grosses me out. He looks like a sexual pervert.

There could be a report and arrests at anytime now.....the thing that takes the long time in these scenarios are the trials, which could last for years.

Tomorrow is Friday. Mueller's favorite day for arrests, next to Monday!

Stone the swinger? He needs to be locked up and swinging with Bubba & Tyrone.

Well, duh! Of course he prefers people talking about the hat than about what he's being accused of. Typical "look over there" distraction.

R293, of course. How could there be any question.

When is the company revealing the name?

NPR's politics podcast today: Gates was terrible on cross examination. He's the most important witness but not the central pillar of the prosecution's case (that would be documentary evidence).

Roger wears a hat when his hairpiece is out for re-wigging.

R303, if it goes to the supreme Court, we already know how they'll rule. For the Nazi.

Trump hotels are so horrible that the ivanka will not stay there.

After Rand Paul, who is next to go to Moscow and deliver a letter from Trump to Putin? Diamond & Silk?

She's not as glamorous or scintillating as Rebekah Mercer or Laura Ingraham, but I think another possibility for kristall.night is Margot Darby, a Yale-educated self-styled fascist intellectual. She's kinda-sorta out and proud about who she is, but being linked to Charlottesville could put her out of work (she's a freelance web developer).

Thanks for posting that link r327

Margo Darby tweets are vile. Would be surprised if she is Kristal Night

These threads are so effing informative!

This all needs to end with treasonous assholes hanging in the middle of the Capital. I'm against CP but not in this case.

It’s like some people have never before been to Datalounge. Most of our threads can be very informative. These Mueller threads, as wonderful as they may be, did not start anything new or revolutionary.

The wonderful, creative, resourceful, intelligent, progressive people of DL have been around for years, many for decades.

But we’ll take current accolades as well!

I've only been around since summer so forgive me, r330. Yes, it is quite a revelation in here.

Many thanks!

One of Margot Darby's compatriots at that smarty-pants-Nazi brain trust Counter-Currents Publishing is an elderqueen named James O'Meara. Any dish?

Anne Meara?

Spaceforce? Are they serious or just making this up too?

Morning Joe's Scarborough and Mika, ripped into Fox News management, Newscorp,, Rupert Murdoch and Sons, and particularly their evening programing.

Notice Trump won't attack NBC in general, inclusive of the network's news outlets. The network has behind-the-scenes audios and videos of Trump's reality show, the Apprentice whereby he fears some on the content being exposed..

What do you mean r322 that Gates was terrible on cross. NPR is very punctilious about both-siderism.

I hadn’t heard that Gates was bad, only that the judge was an asshole. If, God forbid, the state loses this case (and I’m not sure how they can), then they can surely get another trial on the basis of the judge’s HIGHLY inappropriate and unethical behavior. If the tables were turned, the defense would have already had a mistrial declared.

I'm confused. If a verdict came down in favor of Manafort, a not guilty verdict, I always thought the Prosecution could not appeal or demand that a mistrial be declared. I always thought only the Defense can appeal or ask for a mistrial. Or maybe I'm wrong about the mistrial. Wouldn't that have to be set in motion before the trial is over? So like, right now, while Ellis is being an asshole, could the Prosecution offer a motion that a mistrial be declared due to the judge's prejudicial conduct in front of the jury? I mean apologizing and asking the jury to disregard his conduct is like locking the barn after he horses run away. Or something. (I'm not familiar with rural customs.) When can the Prosecution as that a jury's decision be vacated? Or maybe the proper term is jury nullification? Does the Prosecution have that right or is it only the Defense?

I must have missed something but who or what is this “Crystal Night” person? Obviously, a nod to Kristallnacht but is it someone posting alt-right stuff somewhere? Just need a quick update as I feel like I’m missing a new character.

Cohen's former accountant, Jeffrey Getzel - a strip mall CPA, AKA mob accountant - has appeared before a Federal grand jury. Cohen's ex-taxi partner, Gene Freidman, has already pleaded guilty to tax fraud. Cohen has two people eager to flip against him - which means that Cohen will beg to flip against Trump. The only question is how damaging will be Cohen's testimony against Trump.

tRump hotels are nothing more than a Motel3 - just half the quality of a Motel6...

R340, here’s a link with information on kristall.night.

Oh, R341 so that's what Dotard was referring to in his tweet last week.

Will she be accompanied by Wayland Flowers?

Stone is half an inch from Cyclops territory.

I don't think I'd want a judge who...."quips".

That judge needs to take his rocket docket, shove it up his ass and join the Space Force. I'm tired of talking heads telling us he's just colorful, he's always like this, etc etc. If he's always like this he should have been removed long ago. This bitch isn't going to stop until he gets a mistrial or thinks he's persuaded the jury enough to get a not guilty.

Can the prosecution appeal if the jury doesn't convict Manafort?

That Ellis fucker repeatedly asked the jurors if they were discussing the case outside of court (they repeatedly answered "No") and now, he has been in an extremely long recess for past 2.5 hours. Something shady is going on (I don't trust the judge!)

Hopefully the jury will cockblock the fucker and return a unanimous Guilty verdict.

The appearance is that the Judge is showing favoritism for Manafort or interests supporting him. That is not a good thing.

The judge is compromised (probably paid off or blackmailed like everyone else).

No, R349, that would be double jeopardy and only the defense can appeal a verdict of guilty. If the jury finds him not guilty, he's a free man.....for now.

Instead of Miss Lindz focusing on congratulating Melàn's parents on citizenship, why doesn't she head to the border areas, sasshey around before the cameras she loves, and help get the real problems fixed.

Trump is a target and Mueller does not plan on talking to him, Mueller is just playing cat and mouse with him when in fact, he never planned on talking to him at all.

Ellis is not compromised. Manafort is as done as a chicken breast in Ted Bundy's 2000 volts - electrified hands.Manafort is so done that the government tried contacting his defense team several times over several days to return the confiscated for evidence electronics and memory devices and nobody at the law firm offices responded.

The judge has had to formally apologize twice to the jury, had to tell them to disregard his statements.

The first time it was about something that he agreed beforehand the prosecutors could present and then when they did present it, he complained. So the prosecutors had to go back and show him the transcript of his decision.

Also there's something pertaining to Gates' testimony that Mueller doesnt want to come out yet so they had a sidebar about that.

That e judge can be an asshole all he likes but if the jury reads it as contempt for the prosecutor's case, then they can let Manafort off. Although that's unlikely what with all the witnesses who are testifying about his corruption. It Remains to be seen if he is just as rough to the defense lawyers when they start with their case.

It only takes one diehard Trumpster on that jury and he's found not guilty or, at the very least, gets a hung jury and we do this all again.

r356 Agree. The whole series of negotiations with Trump and Mueller is starting to sound like Rudy talking to his imaginary friend. "My friend Robert writes me all the time and we're always speaking and negotiating but he's just too shy to talk about in public. He exists. I'm serious, he really exists. See? Here's his picture I cut out of a yearbook."

Any proof of this supposed desperate attempt by Mueller's team to get Trump in for a meeting comes from Rudy. All the spin is one-sided and from the Trump team only, and you know that because it's filtered through Haberman and Schmidt. And Rudy always seems to pop up with this Mueller meeting bullshit when Manafort has a really bad day at the trial, or some other new Russia tidbit drops. He might as well just scream SQUIRREL!

Cue Nelson Muntz....

r354....no, he stays in jail....he was held pending trial for his case that doesnt start until next month in a different court.

R362> Sooo glad it is in a different court! So sick of asshole Ellis and his rocket docket shit.

Texas officials said they could not start their inquiry earlier because they could not get the name "or any other necessary information."

Thanks for the clarification, R362. I meant he's a free man of these specific charges if he's found not guilty.... until the next trial. No, he's not a free man in the sense he can just waltz out of jail and dance in the streets.

If Ellis's antics affect the jury, the most likely outcome is that one or more deplorable on the jury will vote not guilty. If the jury does not vote unanimously guilty or not guilty, the judge must declare a mistrial and the prosecution can refile the case. Of course, if that happens, Mueller will make sure that Ellis is not assigned to the retrial.

Wonder if the Manhattan madam's ex-employees did pee pee acts as part of their services? If so how many from Trump Tower were clients?

Oopsie.....

An ex-FBI now msnbc pundit just said on Nicole Wallace that the fact that the Manhattan Madam was first voluntarily interviewed by Mueller's team, and then called before the Grand Jury tells him that she had something of importance to contribute.

I assume she will be played in the movie by Miss Ona Munson, r369.

Cackling at Omarosa's revelation that she walked in on Trump eating paper in the Oval Office! Trying to lose weight via the old model trick or destroying evidence?

Why would this judge destroy his career/reputation just for Trump?

Does this man's farts smell like Febreeze or something?

Frank Luntz (whoever the fuck he is) says Omarosa is full of shit.

[quote] Why would this judge destroy his career/reputation just for Trump?

Hmm...I don't know. Ask the Republican House the same question...

^ Throw in Guiliani and any other lawyer who is kissing Trump's ass.

[quote]Trying to lose weight via the old model trick or destroying evidence?

I like to imagine it's just because he's a tard.

r371, I bet he saw his immense girth in those pics of him with Trudeau and started gobbling paper.

"You are what you eat, so eating shredded paper should make me shredded, right?"

Trump has Xylophagia/Pica

r378 he's moved on from Eastern European whores to the Greek?

HOs, madam, swingers, spousal cheaters, underage pee pee girls, hostess of gentleman callers, east European brides, tax evaders, money launderers, cross-dressing ex-mayor, spies for Putty, fascists/neo-nazis, pussy grabbers, fake newsmakers, conspirators, treason operatives, oligarchs, beauty pageant contestants, Playboy bunny, porn star, blueberry queen yapper, untruthful obese spokesperson, American version of Uday and Qusay, naughty daughter, corrupt and incompetent cabinet, small hands, bizarre head rug, orange tanner, Tump University instructors, stiffed contractors, mercenary army, hedge fund billionaires, off-shore bankers, Ruskie intruders, Fox propaganda, Nunes, Gaetz, Meadows, Jordan, Gohmert, DeSantis, McTurtle, Ryan, etc.

Who in hell will write this book?

In the OP photo she looks like a SNL parody of a stick-up snob.

Is That Busy Phillips in the background of OP's pic?

LOL r384. Busy better not find out your address.

I’m going to assume Omarosa’s book is a dud until proven otherwise. She’s just so scammy and full of crap I don’t see her giving up any real reciepts.

There’s a much better book on the way from the guy who brought us deep throat.

I would love for a real book to take this fucker to task but Omarosa is just so full of shit all the time and so damn unlikable that she'll probably just get people to feel sorry for Trumpolini having to deal with her.

R372, what I read is that this judge Ellis thinks that connecting Manafort to the overall Russian investigation is a stretch. Manafort is crooked but it's everyday financial crookedness that assholes like him get away with all the time. The prosecutors are coming down hard on him (womp womp) so he will flip and deliver something on Trump as it relates to the election.

Since Manafort is more afraid of the oligarchs he stiffed than a jail sentence in Club Fed, he probably won't flip.

The recent news that he kinda promised a WH appointment to that bank president in exchange for approving a loan, okay that's promising but still no direct connection to Trump. Even the notes he took at the Trump Tower meeting don't seem to reference Hillary dirt. If he admits that Trump listened in, that would be damaging to Trump but so far, he hasn't cooperated.

"a real book"? Maybe the one Bob Woodward is coming out with, early September.

[quote]Since Manafort is more afraid of the oligarchs he stiffed than a jail sentence in Club Fed, he probably won't flip.

Truer words have never been written

Sara Danner Dukic's Twitter activity this afternoon was a collection of news items about suspicious and sudden deaths of people connected to Trump, starting with the helicopter death of three Trump casino execs/managers. Dennis Shields' death prompted this extended thread.

(I did not know about the Secret Service agent dying in Scotland)

Don’t forget about the mysterious corpse floating in the waters of Mar a Lago. Which looks like a total dump, by the way.

Look, another GOP swamp creature caught up trying to obtain Hillary’s emails on the dark web.

Crooked, stupid criminals = GOP.

And Smith killed himself before ending up dead at Maralago.

Oh R390 you missed the Pences and the President/Vairst Lady on their public grief tour? You must have skipped a day, and good for you.

They all feel the 2nd SCOTUS seat will be the game changer. They’re dragging this out so that once Kavanaugh gets in, someone involved will bring a suit to SCOTUS and the whole investigation gets shut down. Right now, Andrew Miller has been ducking a subpoena to appear before Mueller. He claims he’s trying to negotiate immunity, but some law experts said he wants to get charged with contempt and then bring an appeal to SCOTUS

We really need for a bunch of inside people to defect and blow it all apart. Soon.

Tre45onous Tramp's approval rating reaches 50%!

In Donnie Junior's delusional mind.

FAKE news! Sad!

Before we get the books written and the movie cast, why don't we wait and hope that we all make it through this shit, ok?

Just a thought.

Thanks r390, I wonder if she'll do Ivanka next.

Wait, to the post upthread about how Manafort's case doesn't relate to Dotard or Russia... how does it not? Didn't they already establish that a Russian oligarch controlled one of the accounts Manafort, as head of Dotard's campaign was using for Dotard's campaign?

Further, people forget that Mueller wasn't even originally tasked to investigate Russia. He was originally tasked to investigate Obstruction of Justice and then given the blanket of any other crimes that came up.

He got that appointment just in the nick of time. It would have never happened if Sessions did not recuse.

He was done in by Sessions, as were all those who’ve been charged/prosecuted so far.

Brainwashed. Trump voter would believe Trump over their Jesus......

R399 Russia tried through many channels to influence and materially aid Trump's campaign, and Trump knowingly accepted their offers every time. Manafort was just one agent in Russia's effort.

r401, Trump IS their Jesus now.

Diaper Donnie's Photoshop job at R396 is even more laughable than the one some stan used to graft Henry Cavill's head onto a naked and hard pron star.

I'm surprised they didn't darken Obama's skin a few shades in that image.

[quote]Sara Danner Dukic's Twitter activity this afternoon was a collection of news items about suspicious and sudden deaths of people connected to Trump, starting with the helicopter death of three Trump casino execs/managers. Dennis Shields' death prompted this extended thread.

There's enough going on here without getting into Bill and Killary Body Count territory.

So Senator Nelson has said FL is compromised and the Russians have free range in some counties. Rubio didn't dispute.

The fuckery going on is astounding. Do you think Putin keeps the elections close as a way to say "Don't fuck with daddy. Daddy give you just enough no more. You make daddy happy or daddy make 0.7% victory go away.

[quote]Further, people forget that Mueller wasn't even originally tasked to investigate Russia. He was originally tasked to investigate Obstruction of Justice

Which makes it all the more astonishing that the Dotard and his dotarded lawyers are trying to insist that they don't want Mueller to ask him any questions about Obstruction.

R391, do you mean the corpse floating by one of the NJ golf courses?

Or did I miss a corpse?

Can there be anything more humiliating than getting killed for doing business with Trump? Like, stupid fool. Did you hope he just screws you over or doesn't pay your bill?

The "speculation" is buried in the third-to-last paragraph:

"Friday's unexplained delay has sparked speculation among observers that there could be discussions about a potential plea deal. But there have been no other signs that a plea agreement is in the works, and Manafort's lawyer said ahead of the trial that the former Trump campaign chairman would not agree to one."

From Seth Abramson, re: R411:

I have conducted plea negotiations during a felony jury trial before (more than once). This is *exactly* what it looks like, just FWIW. You go back to chambers with the judge and opposing counsel and you have a joint conversation about whether/how the trial is going to continue.

Not saying I know what the heck is happening in chambers or in the jury room. I don't. I'm just telling you what I've seen and done in the past. I've even seen judges call counsel back to chambers and *encourage* them to reach some sort of a plea deal. Yes, really. It happens.

I think it's significant that these odd delays are happening right before the defense presents its case. If the defense in fact has no case to present, or feels its defense would irrevocably harm the defendant's position with respect to the prosecutors, they may want to talk.

Defense lawyers are also most likely to give a client a final "come to Jesus" moment, if they plan to do that at all, after the prosecution rests (or close to that) and it's clear how strong or weak their case was. Or, a client may have their first and final "freak-out" then.

So at the end of a prosecution's case-in-chief, you can have a client suddenly want to plead, a lawyer suddenly advise a client to reconsider a plea, a judge who wants a plea, or a defense strategy that recognizes that the beginning of the defense case is a point of no return.

Or this will turn out to be nothing. Just trying to give some perspective on what undoubtedly was been a series of strange conferences in chambers and/or the jury room today.

Does Manafort's defense team think that the court case is going in their favor? Seems like the judge seems to favoring them and hating on the prosecution. If that is the case why would they negotiate a plea bargain?

Well, the judge can be as big of an asshole as he wants to be, but the evidence is fairly overwhelming. And this is just trial #1 for Manafort. It’s only going to get worse.

All that said, I would think Manafort would choose jail or a cyanide capsule before he’d rat on the people he did business with.

Meanwhile from BBC News, more hacking contests are having fun with replica voter websites.

"The first competitor to break in was 11-year-old Audrey Jones. It took her 10 minutes."

The Boston Globe has had enough of news outlets kissing Trump's ass and they're organizing to fight back against Trump's attacks against the press!

FINALLY!

Wow is that the press growing a backbone?

R415 the article ‘s title is misleading. They were able to hack the results that would be displayed not the actual results - however....it is still scary how vulnerable our system is . Wtf

Yeah, R418, the biggest takeaway for me was that it's not just any one part of the election system that is vulnerable. There are a lot of small and easy ways they can cause disruption.

One Trumpster will hang the jury. It's not fair.

You don't know that r420.

And frankly your post sounds like concern trolling.

R417 So little... So late. Even back in 2016, they could have exposed this fraud at any time. It's not like he was an unknown entity or a secret monster. There's a mountain of dirt out there, and no one bothered to dig. While Team Trump was paying hush money and killing stories, the press should have been sniffing this out and exposing this corrupt piece of shit. Instead they were climbing over each other trying to justify a reality show fraud becoming a presidential nominee like it's a great human interest piece. In reality, this political anomaly smells to high heaven and was begging for an exposé.

Thank you, R422. This is exactly what I believe as well.

Can Mueller just not enforce the supoena since they are looking to challenge the entire investigation by forcing the idiot's arrest? In other words just not arrest or penalize him for resisting ( if he is not pivotal as a witness) and keep it from going anywhere near the Supreme Court.

The #StopKavanaugh operation is in full swing. Is it possible that Chief Justice Roberts would take Justice Gorsuch and Kavanaugh if he gets approved, and insist they recuse themselves from anything pertaining to Trump?

All it takes is Collins, Merkowski and McCain and it’s a wrap.

As long as no dems cave, like Manchin and Hidekamp

As long as they make their case, women’s rights, they need to get over it. Show some balls, people.

People like Collins, Merkowski and McCain will come out against, make a few comments to the press, and pretend like they care, but in the end they will cave. They're all about pretending to have a conscience but deep down they're just like all the other Republicans.

Re: the media and Trump: I remember during 2016 Diane Rehm dedicating TWO shows to Clinton’s emails in the space of about 10 days. Only after the election did she start having any shows about Trump’s massive conflict of interest problem. So many media outlets were like this.

R409, the body was found in a Trump golf course in the Bronx.

Well I wish Senator Flake and that other whore from Tennessee who's retiring this year would vote with the Democrats on Kavanaugh. They always criticize Trump and wax eloquent with their rhetoric, but they always vote with McConnell. I can't stand those fuckers. I'd love to see a decisive defeat, not one where we squeak by, but I'll take whatever I can get. I think we can forget about Manchin. He's fighting to keep his seat in West Va, and He is going to support Trump all the way.

Talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words. That's true especially for conservative Republicans. They might be "concerned" about Trump's actions and statements, but they will do their best to keep the GOP in power and futher the conservative agenda.

And with full knowledge that their party's win was completely illegitimate, r431.

BREAKING NEWS!!! Indicted Republican Chris Collins has suspended his re-election campaign.

Bob Corker, the whore from Tennessee, made a bundle from the Tax Cut legislation. He's in real estate and he is pure slime. But he is also very vocal in his criticism of Trump. I have this fantasy, where someone like Anonymous hacks Corker's bank accounts and freezes them and freezes his credit cards, and holds them hostage until that little fucker votes against Kavanaugh. The Democrats need some damned "leg breakers." Look at this shit show. The Republican Party the RNC is so fucking corrupt that they have set a new standard for illegality. They do not give a shit. They have figured out that they will always have the base no matter what and they just shit all over people. Openly. Why has the media allowed Corker to get away with voting to legislate a windfall for himself? I used to think the other Senator from Tennessee, Lamar Alexander was basically a decent guy. So how can he sit there ad co-sign this shit show?

So newspaper editors around the country are going to write a strongly worded letter about Trump's attack on a free press. That's hardly "growing a backbone", R417. Growing a backbone would be investigating and exposing the layers and layers of corruption in this cesspool of grifters and con men. Growing a backbone would be calling out the endless stream of lies spewed forth on a daily basis by the White House communications team. Growing a backbone would be refusing to give airtime to the likes of Kellyanne Goebbels to peddle their propaganda. Growing a backbone would be not breathlessly reporting every time the dotard-in-chief shits out another moronic tweet. Growing a backbone would be ignoring each and every one of his deplorable/hillbilly/klan rallies.

At least a strongly worded letter is a starting point, I guess.

Thank you, R435.

On another subject: I take heart from one thing: Paul Manafort supported a rotten bastard in the Ukraine and he was paid handsomely. But neither Manafort, his oligarch buddies nor Putin himself, could stop the people in the Ukraine from ousting that bastard and running him out of the country. So Putin's Ukrainian puppet is now "living in exile" in Russia. I hope in 202, Trump will also be joining him. Because if the Ukrainians can do it we can do it!

The press growing a backbone would look something like this: remember when Iran was holding hostages and Carter was president? Every night the evening news anchors would announce the number of days that the hostages had been held.

Every major newspaper should have as its headline every single day TRUMP LIES AGAIN: #3,253. And an announcement at the end of each major networks' evening news: number of Trump lies as of this day, August 11, 2018, is 3,253. For a list of the lies and the actual facts, go to www. etc......

Just a thought.

Yes, I remember that r437. It was agonizing.

It benefitted Reagan who despised the USSR.

Now we have a Russian puppet in the WH —and *crickets* from MSM.

Which is worse: Americans, still alive, kidnapped by Iran, or a Putin puppet in the WH destroying democracy?

The latter is more agonizing, but is being swept under the rug. I occasionally watch the national news on TV...very little reporting or criticism of Trump’s dangerous cozy relationship with a communist dictator who continuously violates the human rights of Russian citizens as well as assassinates political opponents & journalists.

The press overwhelmed us with the Iran hostages — which Reagan so “gallantly” saved (through cheating).

And now they’re blowing off a porn addled commie stooge in the Oval Office.

Patriarchy is toxic. Now we can all see the hypocrisy & double-standards with our own eyes.

People used to inherently trust white straight men. I do believe that some white straight men do have incredible gifts & aptitude. But they, as a whole, are not worthy of being trusted blindly. They are enemies of democracy now. They have too much power...and don’t deserve it. They could have continued to get away with their illusion, if not for Trump. He exposed their underbelly & it's disgusting & I'm done with them. They no longer have credibility. In fact, they have just the opposite & should be avoided & not trusted.

“Commie stooge”, R438?

Both Putin and Trump are hyper-capitalists.

I mentioned the three execs who died in the helicopter crash after seeing it on Dirty Money. Trump was supposed to be on it too but cancelled at the last minute. I thought it was suspicious as hell.

The new 'communism', comrade R349, is all about the money. Just ask China.

The media has responsibility. They did little investigative reporting on Trump on matters not publicly known. He received massive free coverage with call-ins, rallies, tweets, etc. Other GOP primary candidates were not afforded the same. The media and GOP ranted about HRC's Emails and the Benghazi matter, though she attended numerous Congressional hearing and extensively testified.

The media is still obsessed with Trump for ratings. They act dismayed at his antics, but it is still promotion. Treating characters such as Rudy Giuliani as stars and credible is absurd. The media is eagerly playing host to the deflections of criminal activity.

Look whats happening in Florida.....both Senators, Nelson and Rubio, have warned state election officials that Russia in currently in their voting systems and active.....but GOP Gov and Senate candidate Rick Scott thinks its a joke. Are they planning a GOP landslide in Florida ? The entire GOP administration in Fla is corrupt, Scott, Biondi, etc.....we need to pay attention to the amount of GOP victories in this coming election....and demand and challenge any results that are suspicious.

Then there is Kris Kobach....who finally was forced to step away from the election recounts after it was determined there were votes not counted and Kobach (the current AG) had diescted county officials to exclude votes. This is the man who Trump put in charge of illegal voting.

We need to stay vigilant......judging from the GOP responses in DC, somethings afoot.....but we already knew that.

Exactly R439, and that is a huge part of the perception problem. This entire situation is informed by greed at every single level. Which can seem like a benign threat, certainly not as real as a plane crashing into the WTC. When other Russians were in Power going back to the Post WW II days, they were framed as evil scary bastards. Krushchev pounding his shoe on the table at the UN screaming "We will bury you!" to the United States. The dangers of Russian nuclear weapons in Cuba, aimed for the U S mainland, the constant and continuing threat of nuclear war, etc.etc.etc.

But we haven't done a very good job of demonizing Putin. Gorbachev was reasonable & friendly, Yeltsin was a drunk and a clown, and then we got Vlad muscular, bare-chested, looking better than most aging rock stars, riding horses and fishing, etc. Whataguy! Putin was presented/marketed to us as a celebrity as much as he was as a head of state.

And even though from time to time the media recites his sins and his evil acts, it just doesn't seem to penetrate the popular image of Putin. He literally is getting away with murder! Here, in America, we are dealing with TREASON. We are dealing with corruption on a grand scale. Our national security has been compromised and the consequences may be long term. But there is no sense of urgency. Everyone, especially the media ought to be running around with their "Hair on Fire".

We are in more danger today, then we ever were during the Cuban Missile Crisis. We get scared of those crazy Muslim terrorists and we get scared of the gangs of Mexican rapists, but we seem to not fully appreciate the threat we are really facing and I blame the media. People are sheep. If the media repeats something often enough it will penetrate. But just mentioning it now and then is not going to have the effect we need.

Wasn't it a young Vlad, as a fledgling KGB agent, who put his hands around the throat of an American POW in Vietnam, a pilot, and strangled him to death, later boasting about it memoirs?

Florida election apparatus is penetrated. Georgia is unprotected and quite vulnerable. Wisconsin is suspicious. High level GOP operatives need to be watched but weren't in 2016. Scrutinizing western Pennsylvania and Allegheny County may be in order. Ohio has had a history of irregularities.

Since it is midterms, expect, across the country, competitive Congressional and Senate races will get targeted.

Andre Leon Talley critiquing Paul Manaforts fashions

[quote] But we haven't done a very good job of demonizing Putin.

Because conservatives got more clever. After Watergate they made sure they OWN the press and dictate what and how it's being reported. They control the narrative. They control public opinion and, in fact, control what the masses consume. Food, medicine, education, entertainment and news media, etc. We are slaves and prisoners without visible leash and prison cell (I know, MARY!).

Where is the actual Liberal outrage? Is it all reserved for SJW level of trivial matters? Why and how? Who really benefits from the lack of passion rising up against the conservative, and corrupt, status quo?

Now I know what I was missing in my caftan accessory ensemble! Thank you, Mr. Talley, for both the critique and the exquisite Panama.

Call me a conspiracy nutcase, but Huffpost helped a lot to establish an online news media system that eroded traditional journalism where people are paid nothing to write articles and report things and the mainstream press is struggling, because they are expected to pay for proper researched articles and reports and yet people are going "why pay when I can get the, so called, news for free elseswhere?".

r407 Putin already did threaten Trump. This woman monitors Russian press and the other day the Russians basically told Donald if he wants them to steal another election he better start doing exactly what they say.

So what are they telling him to do that he hasn't, r451? Because the fucker has pretty much single handedly thrown the global economy into a tailspin and made the US a laughing stock.

That's the trouble with being owned, though...he allows one thing, like extra sanctions, and Russia yanks his chain.

New York Times says Roger Stone is not a psychotic, evil, ratfucking blight on American politics, he's just a scrappy pirate.

[quote]Maggie Haberman contributed reporting.

Do you have a link for that, R445?

Because my google doesn't.

I detest Maggie Haberman

r456 i bet the NYT subscription department hates her too. I subscribe to the online puzzles only.

R448...Reagan made sure the Fairness Doctrine would expire.

Now it’s non-stop propaganda...& the crazies uniting & reenforcing via SM apps on their phones. And bot amplification.

Seems then that the hand-delivered letter to Putin didn't take any edge off the sanctions. The sanctions are public, and the letter was private, and that's not good enough for Putin.

Thus Trumpy will be scuttling around, playing catch-up to his Daddy, trying somehow to make good. For all the sordid chaos Trump has created, it must be hell to be him. It's a repulsive life in full. He has to be kept going only by the conscienceless will of the insane.

Listen. Once the fucking Wall came down, I'm talking the Berlin Wall, and the Glasnoste thing blew up for Gorby and Yeltsin took over, it was a new day. Fuck communism, it's capitalism all the way. Multinational media conglomerates are a part of it.

The fact is once the multinational corporations,s and the banks and all the corrupt oligarchs saw how much money could be made, once Putin tore a page or two from our playbook exploiting racism and divide and conquer, everything looked different. Greed was good. Our government knew how evil they were, but the Banking and natural fuel gas oil, etc. knew there was money to be made.

In the long run, China will kick Russia's ass but right now Putin and his band of Oligarhcs are running a Chaos operation. Weaken the USA, and keep making money. Destabilize Europe, exacerbating and in some cases creating a refugee crisis, bankroll ISIS, and a few others and just keep things crazy.

Before the holidays, be sure to order one of Karen Pence's towel pins. Why Ivanka didn't market those for 'Mother' is perplexing.

[quote]I remember during 2016 Diane Rehm dedicating TWO shows to Clinton’s emails in the space of about 10 days. Only after the election did she start having any shows about Trump’s massive conflict of interest problem. So many media outlets were like this.

In an environment where Clinton was certain to win--running against Donald Trump of all people!--it was very important to media personalities and outlets that they take the moral high ground by holding her feet to the fire at absolutely no risk to themselves.

I include my beloved Rachel Maddow in this characterization.

As much as Russia likely did change votes in 2016, no doubt the media helped Pres Tre45on and hurt Hillary and yes, MSNBC was a HUGE part of that, especially the latter.

CNN is doing an interview with fraus from Pennsylvania about the mid-terms.

This stupid bitch in business school just spouted out the textbook definition of Repug talking points like lower taxes, less regulation, less govt spending (and they say Colleges are so liberal-looks like Bus programs are all Repug). I wish someone would ask, "So how low do taxes go? Kansas tried this and it ruined them. We have cut taxes and everytime our deficit explodes. Now, after Dump's spending, our deficit is climbing towards a trillion again."

Another Independent said the economy was more important so she was voting Dump though her other answers betrayed her Independence and you could tell she was conservative. Was there an Independent leaning Liberal? Of course not!

One Democrat, who was a Repug and voted Kasich in the primaries, is now a Democrat.

PA is a shithole.

Those people watch Fox News. Gullible, non-critical thinkers.

Chuck Todd on MTP fawned about Trump as if it was Junior doing it. Morning Joe helped Trump big-time with Mika's hostility towards Hillary being unrelenting except when she didn't show for work.

The rest of the timeline for the Manafort trial is (I believe) on Monday the prosecution will wrap up its case and on Tuesday, the defense will present its case and it will go to the jury on Wednesday. Yep, that's what I heard, the defense is only having one witness.

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[quote]So what is the angle here? We know any sanctions the Trump admin puts on Russia are simply to try to prove Trump isn't in their pocket, which he is. He won't do anything Putin doesn't want him to. So is Space Force! to show he's tougher than Putin or trying to defy him? Or does Trump's toddler brain just think Space Force! sounds cool?

It is so that once it's deployed, Russia can hack into the controls and take possession of the weaponry without having to even pay for it.

Because, coincidently, America's cyber defenses are being dismantled and hollowed out.

Trump "lawyers" Rudy Guiliana and Jay Sekulow were on Sean Hannity's radio show yesterday talking about how President Obama needs to be investigated for abuse of power.

This is tied to the new thing that the Obama administration MUST have been corrupt because there was never a special prosecutor appointed on his watch. And Bengazi. And Uranium One. And her emails.

I must say, the mind reels . . .

I'm paraphrasing from Twitter: Republicans are so corrupt; at roll call they don't know if they should say Present or Not Guilty.

Was this already mentioned here?

[quote]Trump "lawyers" Rudy Guiliana and Jay Sekulow were on Sean Hannity's radio show yesterday talking about how President Obama needs to be investigated for abuse of power.

Well, as we know... these fuckers always project.

R473 These morons know full well the Congress was in Republican hands during much of the Obama years and had the power to "investigate" at any time, but obviously found nothing to investigate. The same cannot be said about their corrupt Trump.

Russian agent Jill Stein is on CNN now. I turned the station. All I heard was she didn't think she costs Hillary the election. No need to listen to Putin's words via her.

For 2020

Republican - Donal Trump

Democratic - Bernie Sanders

Green - Jill Stein

Libertarian - Rand Paul

Pooty Poop would happier with this slate than a pig in shit. Pooty couldn't lose however it goes.

She is so shady and came out of nowhere with the most arcane platform.

I think all references to Kushner from now on should be to "shirtless Jared Kushner." For some reason the caption on the photo that gives the thread its name strikes me as hilarious.

How much would Jared pay to add a couple or three inches to his tinymeat?

R476 Ha! That's a Russian agent in every slot! Putin really can't lose.

R436, in the previous thread there were several commenters who called on people to take to the streets. Immediately these commenters were vehemently attacked as being delusional.

I thought this was very strange because, yes civil unrest is clearly in order, the US has never in its history faced such a dangerous time and demonstrating does make a difference, clearly shown in Ukraine.

I almost find it inexplicable that there aren't massive protests every week given how dangerously close the country has come to lose democracy.

My point is, seeing these commenters being attacked as they were, I suspect that troll accounts actively engage in manipulating public opinion on social media to make people believe that the things that are happening are normal and that there is nothing to worry about.

Agreed. They are going to do their best to divide. Stay united.

Anybody with a pre-existing condition needs to be coming out strong for Pelosi. She’s done a lot for healthcare and should be applauded for it.

Yeah, no R481. The people that were shouting about protesting were obvious trolls trying to incite violence.

But then again, you seem to have no history in any of these threads.

Miss Lindz is taking the weekend off entertaining gentleman callers. She does have needs.

Maybe the person who helped solve the butch chef murder could lend a hand to the Crystal Night mystery.

R484 is exactly the type of troll I am talking about. How's the weather in Moscow, I know Vlad hates nothing more than protests. Since he was locked up in a building in east Germany when the wall came down, surrounded by protesters who were about to get him, he has nightmares about the public display of disobedience.

[quote]But we haven't done a very good job of demonizing Putin. Gorbachev was reasonable & friendly, Yeltsin was a drunk and a clown, and then we got Vlad muscular, bare-chested, looking better than most aging rock stars, riding horses and fishing, etc. Whataguy! Putin was presented/marketed to us as a celebrity as much as he was as a head of state.

Putin was cheered on singing Blueberry Hill, during a Hollywood fundraiser in 2010. He was always playing the long game, assembling the press (I am sure there are huge cash sums exchanging hands for favorite press) and willing leftist politicians around him.

Well, the fact that the economy is good right now is definitely going to help. But if you start pointing out the fact that healthcare are going up, they're eliminating the pre existing conditions and other features, etc. that's important to people who "care" about the economy. If you tell them wages are not going up, or that their taxes are going up, if you tell them the tariffs are going to be costing them a lot, lie I hope they aren't thinking about buying a new car. And the interest rates are going up too, so borrowin g for a mortgage or a car loan or a small business loan is problematic. That's the thing. The real shit hasn't kicked in yet. Gasoline is going up. If it keeps going up it will affect the cost of food, travel, and commuting. I think with all these so called Indies you have to personalize things. They don;t give a shit about "the deficit" because it's too big to get their arms around, and the media and the Democrats haven't made an issue of it. California is literally burning, our environmental laws are being reverse, etc. Look What we need is all the things in every department that the Republicans are doing to harm us and reversing regulatory policies. Our drinking water, our food safety, everything. We need to make this very personal and we needed to do that Yesterday. My 63 yr old mother doesn't give a shit about abortion, but she sure as shit cares about Medicare and social security. And we need to make sure people understand that it does affect them directly when these programs are cut.

Nice try, R488. I have a history in here... you don't.

Who is saying that life's good though? Social media with its Russian and alt right trolls or the Republican owned media? Sure, Trump's tariffs are not going to have an impact overnite, but apparently nobody seems to be too concerned when they can obsess about someone wearing a hat indoors during an interview.

R490 Trump is just prolonging the Obama boom cycle with the tax cut for corporations at the expense of the national deficit. It's a very bad trade-off for the long-term health of the economy. If you look at everything he's done, you start to realize they are all just near-sighted effort to prop up his political capital over the country's future well-being.

[quote]Nice try, [R488]. I have a history in here... you don't.

Of course you do R491, trolls are paid per comment.

You sound mad, R494. Clear some more cookies, k?

I can't think of anybody sounding more mad than you R495, stating that protesting Trump is "trying to incite violence"

Oh, so you have reading comprehension issues too, R496? Got it.

The protesting troll is back? How fun.

No, but you ran out of arguments Dimitri! You're not doing a good job, careful you might get demoted - 5 kopeks instead of 20 per post from now on.

I can't believe all of the slobbering sexualized posts here about Trump's son-in-law, who is just as evil as Trump.

Yet the same lustful posters are the ones who go insane when anyone says that, though they hate him as a person, they find Paul Ryan hot.

Stop being hypocrites.

No, R499, you actually can't read.

What are you taking about R496? There was actually someone (or people) posting about protesting in the past few threads who was encouraging violence. What R484 said was not wrong.

Notice how the anti protesters have very little of real arguments to offer.

GOP Congressman Tom Garrett of Virginia says the FBI revealed in a closed-door meeting that—surprise!—Russia played a part in Charlottesville last year.

That's shocking, R504! But it makes sense now. Remember, Dotard said they weren't bad people!

What is shocking is that a GOP Congressman would say that publicly. Aren't all the GOP except the dying John McCain blackmailed bootlickers now, blind to the reality that House Republican seats have a double-digit percentage loss of voter support ? Why would they acknowledge in public Russian meddling now? Is this Congresscritter Garrett one of those unicorns that still is responsive to his constituents?

Vladimir Putin's Long Shadow- the fifth estate

Worth watching to understand how Putin came to power and how he deceives, charms, reigns and kills.

R506 I thought the same thing. I wondered if it was just an attempt to shift the blame and make it seem like, "See, Virginians aren't racist!!!"

“An 11-Year-Old Changed The Results Of Florida's Presidential Vote At A Hacker Convention. Discuss.”

This is the Buzzfeed News headline. They even threw in the order to “discuss”. An 11 year old child changed votes and people expect us to believe that Russia didn’t change actual votes.

Comrade, please!

506 here. I looked at 270toWin's website and saw Tom Garrett is not running for his VA-05 seat this year, so he has nothing to lose by telling as much of the truth as he's comfortable with. He does seem sympathetic to ultranationalists and white supremacists, based on what I've seen in group photos in his office.

Go back to paper ballots everywhere. Get qualified old poll workers with no record of criminal activity to count. It may take another day to finish counting, but there is a paper trail and it is difficult for Ruskies to mess with.

You only need to give voters paper receipts on how they voted and make that information available online on a central government voter registration data base. Every registered voter receives a bar code and number that is linked to his/her name and address.

[quote] Yeah, no [R481]. The people that were shouting about protesting were obvious trolls trying to incite violence

Nonsense. No one called for violence. Street demonstrations in DC & NY do not have violence (except by police arresting people)

No, there was no call for violence but there WAS hysteria procured from some MARY! who screamed “I’m not going on demonstrating so I can get arrested, lose my job, lose my home and lose my partner and end up homeless and alone,” so everyone should just shut up about demonstrating. Probably by the same hall monitor known as the Concern Troll Namer, who does not tolerate people saying things she doesn’t like.

Sure, Jan.

I believe the Russian objective is to get Americans out into the street in chaos, like the Unite the Right rally. Moreover, they want us to appear weak, divided, and disorganized. As for the resistance, they want to make our numbers appear diminished. What better way to do that then by manipulating the gullible online? There are many examples of this happening in 2016 on both sides of the aisle. We are still discovering more Russian efforts to meddle in our domestic affairs.

However, we are Americans. We are not weak, divided, or disorganized. Our numbers are strong.

I think the Women's Marches and the March for Our Lives scare the Russians. What scares them are the millions upon millions of Americans united for common cause in public.

This fear explains the effort to diminish in our collective mind the very idea of protest. They want us to think that protesting is what the fringe does. They want us to think our numbers are small. When they can't convince us our numbers are small, they want us to think that there are an equal number in opposition. They are afraid of us when we are together.

Trump is obsessed with crowd size for good reason. What scares the Russians also scares the GOP.

Okay, we're in the 500s again. Time for new thread title suggestions:

I still liked "Build My Own Treason", but mostly for the visual of Helen Lawson with Trump's head superimposed.

Man, Jared is built like a POW.

Within Treason

R516 and R518 I have those on the list.

Five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred Treasons.

I don't know why anyone would find Russia's involvement in Charlottesville shocking. I'm not even slightly surprised. That sort of thing is straight out of their literal geopolitical playbook.

Yeah that’s a given. What’s more terrible is their American financiers/conduits

Russian people make the Klan look like the Salvation Army.

R520 that's a good play on Treasons of Love. Added, thanks!

R519 (OP?) You mean like Schindler's List? Do y'all think Jared would have made Schindler's List?

[quote]I believe the Russian objective is to get Americans out into the street in chaos

BS, Putin very well knows that protests almost cost him the reelection in 2011/2012 and making sure they won't happen again is what secures his reign. Protest is what ousted Yanucovych and united the people in the Ukraine to move closer to NATO and EU. Obama advisers were on the ground in Ukraine during Euromaidan supporting protesters.

Plato said "I assume your silence gives consent"

Beyond A Treasonable Doubt.

I get confused about this: is Jared a transsexual or a transvestite?

It's been mentioned here before but Jared and Ivanka look oddly alike. They've had the same work done.

Because Jared knows how to go up into the woman and birth crotch droppings, I an venturing that he is a classic transvestite and looks smashing in a square cut bra and panties.

He may even coordinate with Ivankie.

I would have thought of all the people surrounding Dotard, Jared would be the one to be a cuckhold. Of course the person he's sharing Ivanka with would be Daddy Dotard.

at r504 link

[quote]It's long been known that Russia exploited the deep-rooted racial tensions in America during the 2016 election

Why do they keep saying "racial tensions"?

It's strait-up racism.

And you can say Asians, Latinos, and African-Americans are racist, too, but they aren't organizing politically, blanketing social media, or proliferating the hate-Internet to take away the rights of other "races"--and they aren't marching with tiki torches.

It's pretty much a one-way thing, not a two-sided "tension."

[quote]--and they aren't marching with tiki torches.

What's wrong with marching? And they were fine people!

No, racial tension is correct--Russia tried, repeatedly, to exploit the Black Lives Matter movement to this end.

R526, I think R515 has a point--Putin is wary of protests, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want them in the U.S. He *wants* the U.S. to be weak and divided. Trump is his puppet, but that doesn't mean he cares what happens to Trump--if the U.S. is in chaos, Putin is free to mow through the Ukraine and play games in Eastern Europe.

Putin was also behind the CalExit push--hell, he may be encouraging Trump's attacks on California. He'd be delighted to see the United States break up, though he's not counting on it. He uses multiple strategies to keep the havoc going. At the very least, he wants Trump to put an end to California's independence when it comes to emissions--California's next big goals are to radically increase fuel efficiency and up the number of electric vehicles. Since a bunch of other states follow California's guidelines, this will lead to a significant drop in oil demand--and Russia's a petro-economy.

I don't think, though, that Putin likes well-organized calm protests that lead to action. I think he neither understands nor respects genuine civil dissent and disobedience--there's no history of it in Russia. He and Trump also don't get just how much agency the states have.

Chaos is exactly what Put Put wants. He wants to disrupt people's faith in Democracy and voting so people from both parties question the validity of our elections.

Speaking of Cal Exit. What makes me laugh is that of course the Rethugs pushing for it want THEIR portion of California to keep the name California.

Protests doesn't mean chaos, it just shows that people are willing to publicly show their disapproval with the government. Protests can be very unifying, something Putin definitely doesn't want because his strategy is divide and conquer.

Where has Avenatti been the past few days?

^^Avenatti has been campaigning in Missouri. You can check his twitter feed daily.

Avenatti is out there saying we need to fight fire with fire.

And I agree with him. I never liked Michelle's, "We go high," Mantra. You cannot go higher with people who take glee in going lower (and getting away with it).

Sometimes when I need a recharge I go and read #trumpgrets.

@dennispmcginn

@realdonaldtrump I voted for you and now my wife of 19 years with a green card is afraid you're sending her to concentration camp... :(

@Swisher1977

Replying to @realDonaldTrump You disgust me! I voted for you. The worst person out here. My President is a twitter troll!

@ScottieK04

@realDonaldTrump I voted for you, because I thought you’d be a change of the same old divisive rhetoric. I was wrong, I am ashamed by how you speak of others! The best way to judge someone’s character is not by what others say of you, but what you say of others...you are failing

@MaryElam1

Replying to @realDonaldTrump Trump...I voted for you...stop making me regret my decision. You're the President...please...please...have "some" filter. Stop saying people are dumb.. come on...you're making us all look foolish. There are some things better left unsaid...

@307WindyWyoming

Another trump BOT, Republican outright lieing. WHATS HAPPENING TO ETHICS!?! I'm getting to the point that I don't like telling people Republican! I regret voting for @realDonaldTrump

@bsacamano1522

Replying to @realDonaldTrump Convicted of “nothing” because he’s standing trial you dumb fuck. It’s called “due process”. I really didn’t believe you were this fucking dumb when I voted for you but you’ve proved me utterly wrong

R536, oh that's not CalExit, that's the SV guy who keeps wanting to divide California, first into seven states, now into three--but his latest proposal got thrown off the ballot by a judge.

CalExit was a proposal to have California secede from the United States, like Texas is always threatening to do.

Sorry, it's just that sometimes I need to see these things to make me feel better.

Oh, that's right R547. My bad. Got them confused.

R548 I get it. The only trouble is that those people are all Morons who would in fact fall for it all over again and vote the same exact way. Well, the majority of them would.

Yeah, the ones falling for the "I swear, this timeI won't come in your mouth!" lie.

In a filing Friday morning, they asked Ellis to tell the jury to disregard a comment Thursday during a witness' testimony about alleged bank fraud conspiracy that the attorneys "might want to spend time on a loan that was granted."

The judge's comment "misrepresents the law regarding bank fraud conspiracy, improperly conveys the court's opinion of the facts, and is likely to confuse and mislead the jury," prosecutors wrote.

The prosecutors want Ellis to explain "that the jury is not to consider the court's comment and that loans that Manafort fraudulently applied for but did not receive are relevant to the charges in the indictment."

Ellis made the comment near the end of the day Thursday, as witness Taryn Rodriguez of Citizens Bank testified about a $5.5 million loan Manafort applied for using false statements to the bank but did not receive.

A day before, prosecutors had asked Ellis to correct the record for the jury about his agreement to let an expert witness from the IRS sit in the courtroom before he testified. Ellis told the jury he had been "probably wrong." Transcripts from earlier in the trial show he clearly discussed with prosecutors the IRS witness observing the trial.

There was no public response to the new request as of 6:30 p.m. ET Friday.

R551 sometimes we only want you to think we believe it!!!

True R550 but still. It makes me temporarily happy that some of them are miserable.

I really really really want to know what they have on Graham.

And Nunes.

And Chaffetz.

And Ryan.

And McConnell.

I believe they do have some nasty shit on the Senatrice. The others however, I'm not convinced. I think they're all just assholes.

^Ghouliani looks terrifying.

I really do not like the MLK Michelle when they go low, we go high.

Such malarkey.

I think that the Malcolm X version would have changed things for the better years ago:

Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.

He should have done this naked.

Totally agree, R559.

With regard to the video in R558. Jesus, that Steve Cortes is a sycophant. Whenever he talks it looks like he's going to stroke out trying to figure out how to lie and spin.

Dotard obviously has a thing for guys named Steve.

[quote]Trump is obsessed with crowd size for good reason.

The crowd size represented by the popular vote, for example. Vast orderly demonstrations by popular voters - who could be usefully identified as such, further to enrage 'POTUS' - with placards bearing punchy tweet-like protests - would send a powerful message.

New thread title suggestion: 'East of Treason.'

Interesting choice of words to pair next to Hope's name.

Treasounous Pigs In Space

Something about that Steve guy reminds me of Alex Jones.

Suggested before: Boys in the Treason

"Jared Kushner looks like the kind of guy that asks for the night shift at the morgue."

He looks like he eats fetuses.

If You were a Treason, what kind of Treason would you be?

Daddy's little girl.

Forever + Always

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out.

(Yes, I'm posting this a few posts earlier than normal so we have one in case this one closes out before the usual morning traffic).

Daddy says I do it best.

How about:

Treasons To Be Pretty

Treasons To Be Cheerful

Someone please post the link to the new thread towards the end of this one when it maxes out, thanks.

Treasons In The Sun

Oh look, she was just as ugly as her brother before all the surgery.

haha. Just in time for this thread:

She looks like a 55 year old Divorcee.

Link to new thread.

Id forgotten all about Tiffany. Is she still in Law School?

Maybe she can help her dad out.

He's definitely scared about something.

That's sort of disturbing how many photos there are of Ivanka like that.

Bill Maher: "Trump didn't drain the swamp. He swamped the drain." LOL

I forgot Tiffany was going to Georgetown. Why is she never seen with her dad?

OP you missed an opportunity to share this gem. It is swimsuit season after all!

And this elegant lady.

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out.

How old are those pics? KAC's body is surprisingly good. Not nearly as shriveled as I thought it would be.

If we're going to post swimsuit photos I think she deserves to be on this thread.

Closing

Was this when they were with Deng?

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