Just what was Granny and Jed Clampett's relationship?

Jed's mother-in-law and Elly May's maternal Grandmother.

No, Granny was Jed's mother in law. Granny was Jed's daughter Ellie Mae's grandmother

Damn, Jethro was hot! I loved those scenes of him in a bathing suit by the "cement pond".

I bet Jethro would have been a very willing bottom! And he'd like it too!

Whose sister was Cousin/Aunt Pearl?

R3 Back home at the ponds in the hills, there would have been no need for swimming trunks.

Jethro also played his "sister", the first Trans on TV, and he gets no credit for his forward thinking.

I always assumed Pearl was Jed's sister and Jethro his nephew. So Jethro (and Jethrine) was not related by blood with Granny. But you never know with the hill folk and their family relationships.

I thought Jethro was his nephew. HIs mother (Jed's sister-in-law, and aunt Pearle to Ellie) would visit and was thought to be the most sophisticated family member as she spoke French - even though she actually only knew 1 or 2 words. Elliemay was his daughter and Granny his mother-in-law. Pearle who also appeared on Petticoat Junction was also the sister of Kate and the girls and Elliemay and Jethro were all cousins. I thought she was the sister Kate left the show on to go and care for. IDK I was always looking at Jethro's crotch and on Petticoat dreaming about taking Betty-Joe's place to marry Steve and live in the little cabin in the woods.

They were LOVERS!

It was a funny show.

She died on stage, y’know.

About fifteen or twenty years ago, I discovered a fan site/email site of Lori Saunders, Bobby Jo from Petticoat. Saunders is a lovely woman, and I'm still on her newsletter listing. Years ago I asked her about Bea Benadaret, hoping to get many stories. All I got was, "she was such a lovely, dear woman."

R13 I think Bea was also the voice of Betty Rubble? Loved her, it was never the same without her, however, I did love June Lockhart as Dr Janet Craig.

Bea was also Gracie's best friend Blanche on the "Burns and Allen Show". Bea had a fabulous laugh, especially in evidence when laughing at Gracie's zany antics.

I saw Mike Minor (Steve) on "Petticoat Junction" about 10-15 years ago off-Broadway in that long-running mystery (and the the main mystery is why it is long running)."Perfect Crime". He was very good, show isn't. I heard he died a few years ago. He was dreamy as Steve on "Petticoat Junction". I remember all Betty Joe wanted to do to entertain herself was to watch him shave one episode. I'd have been happy to watch as well!

I wonder who did the voice of Jethrine on "Beverly Hillbillies"? The first two seasons are on Amazon Prime nowdays -- there were more seasons available, but they went away. Hopefully they come back soon. Ellie was Jed's daughter. Jethro was her cousin. Granny was married to Jed's late wife. Pearl was Jethro's mother, as well as Jethrine's. Maybe Pearl was Jed's late wife's sister? Still not sure of that one.

[quote]Granny was married to Jed's late wife.

I'm pretty sure that was illegal in 1962, even in the Ozarks.

Yes! Pearl was Jed's sister-in-law, not his sister. Jethro was her son. So Granny was indeed Jethro's grandma.

Let me tell you about fucked up family relationships.

Granny was the mother of Jed's late wife, to clear that up.

Granny was a fighter as witnessed in this...at the 7:45 mark

Linda Henning daughter of producer was voice of Jethrine . Notice how Steve was Billie Joe's beau and then all of a sudden he was in love with Betty Jo played by the daughter of the producer.

What I thought was strange the entire castoff Beverly Hillbillies made no salary demands . They were happy with what they got so I read.....

y’ain’t s’posed ta marry yer cuzzin... jus’ practice!

Cousin Pearl/Kate Bradley (Bea Benadaret) was the original choice to play Ethel Mertz on I Love Lucy. Before contracts could be signed, Desi Arnaz caught Vivian Vance in some off-Broadway show, and offered her the part. Lucy was not happy, but later on saw how well it worked out.

The original choice for Fred Mertz was Gale Gordon.

Old story but Bea was the original choice for Ethel Mertz but was doing Burns and Allen. Bea was on ILL as spinster Miss Lewis. I love Bea but can't imagine anyone but Viv as Ethel.

And Vivian Vance was not appearing off-Broadway when Desi discovered her, but in a revival of The Voice of the Turtle at the La Jolla Playhouse, just a short drive south from Hollywood. Desi was apparently so impressed with Viv that he rushed to her dressing room wit the offer at intermission.

Hollywood is definitely "off-Broadway", R25. 2500 miles away.

Jethro and Jethrine paved the way for Steve Urkel and Myrtle Urkel.

[quote]Old story but Bea was the original choice for Ethel Mertz but was doing Burns and Allen. Bea was on ILL as spinster Miss Lewis. I love Bea but can't imagine anyone but Viv as Ethel.

Bea was the original choice for Granny until Irene Ryan showed up. Irene Ryan, an old vaudevillian, originated the role of Bertha in PIPPIN.

Listen to this bootleg of her singing No Time At All.. The applause afterwards lasts at least a full minute.

Legend has it she suffered a stroke after sing this song, one night, went home to CAm and died a month later.

Granny's maiden name was Moses.

...and her first name was Daisy.

Bea and Gale played the Ethel and Fred counterparts (Iris and Rudolph Atterbury) on "My Favorite Husband," Lucille's radio show that was the precursor to "I Love Lucy." Many of the "ILL" plots were direct copies from "MFH."

The bitch fights between Pearl and Granny were hilarious.

Bea Benaderet was a prolific radio actress. Back then you could easily be a regular on two or three radio shows a week. The creator "the Beverly Hillbillies," Paul Henning wrote for "Burn and Allen." Henning wanted to put Bea into a starring role. He had an idea for a show called "Granby's Green Acres." This later became "Green Acres" in the mid 60s. It starred Bea Benaderet and Gale Gordon. It did not have radio success.

Bea and Gale became regulars on "My Favourite Husband," the second year in radio. They had appeared in various roles the first year and became regulars when the series was retooled to make Liz and George more middle class. "My Favorite Husband," was turned into "I Love Lucy." Most of the "My Favorite Husband" scripts were used line for line in "I Love Lucy" at one point or another.

Bea was also a regular on the hit "Burns and Allen" radio which was going to TV soon. Bea was never a serious contender for Ethel, because she was never going to leave the highly successful "Burns and Allen" for and unproven TV show. Gale Gordon also was on "Our Miss Brooks" (radio) and was not going to leave it for "I Love Lucy," as that show would be transitioning too.

Early TV didn't pay any more, the shows failed quickly and you could be on two or three radio shows at the same time. So economically it didn't make sense.

So while, Gale and Bea were first in line for Fred and Ethel, they were never seriously considered as taking the parts.

Henning continued to like Bea's work and wanted to put her in a TV series "the Beverly Hillbillies." Henning wanted Bea for Granny but he was the one who wouldn't cast her as he said "Granny is a tiny woman with tiny features and didn't weigh seven pounds soaking wet. So he continued to look for a "Granny" with Bea in the back of his mind.

Once Irene Ryan was cast, Henning then wrote the part of Pearl into the show. Pearl was never supposed to be a character. He wrote her in specifically to give Bea a part. When the show took off, Paul Henning was offered a chance to create a second show, and he used that for Bea's starring vehicle.

When "Petticoat Junction" became a hit, he was offered a chance to give CBS a third show and he chose to revive the "Granby's Green Acres" radio show for TV, and put Eddie Albert in the lead.

As for the Clampett relationships, there was an episode where Jed explained it.

Granny was Jed's mother-in-law. The creator Paul Henning had Granny as Jed's mother, but he quickly realized that in order for the show to work, Jed had to be the sensible one and the undisputed leader of the "clan." So Henning made Granny Jed's mother-in -law.

Granny's last name was Moses. It was often brought up in fights between Pearl and Granny, and Pearl would brag she had Clampett blood in them while Granny was just a "mother-in-law."

Jed married Rose Ellen Moses, who was Granny's daughter and Elly Mae's mother. Jed's father was named Luke and Jed's father had a wife named Myrtle.

Pearl is Jed's first cousin, Jed states this. So we can assume Myrtle was probably Pearl's mother, because Luke had no other siblings mentioned.

Jed states that "by rights" Jethro is his first cousin once removed and Elly Mae and Jethro are second cousins, but Jethro calls him uncle. Granny states she is "Granny to them all." Which is reflected that even Miss Jane, Mr and Mr Drysdale and most everyone else calls her Granny. A few like Margaret Drysdale's father call Granny by her proper name Daisy.

And there is the great episode where it is learned when Margaret Drysdale's family was leaving for America, Jed's family was waiting for them in Jamestown.

[quote]...married Rose Ellen Moses, who was Granny's daughter and Elly Mae's mother. Jed's father was named Luke and Jed's father had a wife named Myrtle.

Whoops made an error. It should be Luke (Jed's father) had a sister named Myrtle.

And while we're at it, Milburn Drysdale's distant kin were "Botkins" from Tennessee, and the Botkins and the Moses Family (Granny's family) had a feud in the hills if Tennessee.

While Granny's kin come from Tennessee, Jed's location is further west in the Ozarks, somewhere in the Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma triangle. In one episode Granny states she is from "across the river," which I assume is the Mississippi and she states she and Daniel Boone are from the same county in Tennessee. (The episode guest starring Pat Boone). Boone actually spent a lot of time in Tennessee and in real life Daniel Boone spent his last years in Missouri.

Margaret Drysdale's family has the society name but no money (though one episode contradicts this). Margaret states to her son Sonny, that she is sorry she had to marry a common ordinary banker, but she wanted to give him all the nice things he deserved.

Margaret's father was Lowell Redlings Farquhar, who romanced Granny only to get her money. Sonny who was a 40 year old perpetual college student (brilliantly played by Louis Nye), was Milburn's step-son who romanced Elly as a challenge, to bring culture to her and because she was pretty, without the intention of every marrying her which caused issues between the two families.

If you defend Trump you get labeled a troll?

R21, they probably shifted the love interest to Henning because she and Minor fell in love in real life. They were married for five years from 1968-1973. Minor was also the son of a producer - Don Fedderson, who was responsible for My Three Sons.

It's interesting to note both she and Minor tried to distance themselves from the nepotimistic aspects of their careers. Henning dropped her last name in the early episodes of PJ as she was known early on as simply " Linda Kaye" and Mike Minor took his mother's maiden name as his stage name.

Paul Henning grew up in Missouri and went to summer camp in the Ozarks where he encountered the local people. When he later went to Hollywood as a writer he kept thinking about what those people would have thought about Los Angeles, and that gave him the idea for Beverly Hillbillies.

So R36 is red-labeled a "Troll" for posting about Granny? These troll monikers are getting ridiculous.

R41 I think they are a troll from prior offenses and got a permanent label.

I think Granny and Jed were incestuous.

r43 The VERY idea????? Go cut me a switch!!!!!!

I suppose you saw the linked thread, R13? A poster related how his lesbian pulp writing mother was in a relationship with Bea Benaderet. He or she posts at R 81, R 85, R120 and R 123.

Oops, forgot to link the thread.

Why didn't they just make Ellie May and Jethro brother and sister?

More sexual tension as kissing cousins, r47.

But they never even hinted at anything like that between those two on the show.

Was anyone else in love with Max Baer Jr. only to learn that Max Sr. was a world famous boxing champ and then severely disappointed to find a photo of Daddy who was not all that in the looks department??

Max Baer Sr was very famous, R50, most everyone knew he was the boxer's son. I would say he was tough looking, not "ugly".

Jed and Granny were an old married couple.

Wow!! I guess I didn't do enough research as a kid or maybe the photos of "Slapsie Maxie" I found were of him as an older man because he looks mighty fine at r51's link!

Jed looked right handsome when he got cleaned up in his Sunday go-to-meeting clothes.

Cousin Bessie was their LOVE CHILD!!

r53 The photos you undoubtedly located were of a boxer/actor named Slapsie Maxie ROSENBLOOM, not related at all to the Baers, Sr. or Jr.

[quote] If you defend Trump you get labeled a troll?

Defending Trump (as if that were even possible) is the very definition of trolling.

Jethro's dad.....

He looks....

But how was Cousin Pearl related to Kate Bradley over at the Shady Rest Hotel?

They're cousins, identical cousins......

Beefcake Jethro....

Max Jr. was quite handsome when he wasn’t pulling goofy Jethro faces.

Did Mike Minor play the same character on both shows?

[quote] And there is the great episode where it is learned when Margaret Drysdale's family was leaving for America, Jed's family was waiting for them in Jamestown.

And to rub salt into Mrs Dryesdale's wound, Jed's ancestor was the FIRST Englishman to step ashore at Jamestown. Making the Clampett's the ULTIMATE American bluebloods.

But people like the Clampetts weren't usually English, but Scots-Irish.

[quote]And there is the great episode where it is learned when Margaret Drysdale's family was leaving for America, Jed's family was waiting for them in Jamestown.

[quote]And to rub salt into Mrs Dryesdale's wound, Jed's ancestor was the FIRST Englishman to step ashore at Jamestown. Making the Clampett's the ULTIMATE American bluebloods.

[quote]But people like the Clampetts weren't usually English, but Scots-Irish.

Whatever. In that episode, Jed lies (yes, Jed lied!) because he knew that being descended from the first person to set foot on America from the UK meant more to Mrs Drysdale than it did to him. Point being, he was more of a "blue-blooded American" than she was. He lied to let her believe that. She was a great character actress, whoever plated her.

Or played her, rather.

I looked it up. Mrs Drysdale was played by Harriet E. MacGibbon. Nancy Kulp, who played the Jethro-crazy secretary of Mr Drysdale, Jane Hathaway, was one of the first obvious tv lesbians. Also, Sharon Tate was a regular.

Not "Whatever", R67. The Scots-Irish didn't come to the US until 100 years after the Mayflower. They settled up in the hills because the rest of the country was already too crowded and expensive. So they really took liberties with that episode. Strange because it was usually spot-on about the subtleties of Hillbilly culture.

You're forgetting that people intermarried, and there was plenty of descendants of the original settlers whose social status declined over generations.

But do you all find it ironic that Nancy Kulp was always cast as the ultimate foaming-at-the-mouth man-hungry spinster? She originally worked with Hillbillies producer Paul Henning in the 1950s on his series Love That Bob! as bird-watcher Pamela Livingstone, panting after sexy Bob Cummings.

Were lesbians just not on America's radar back then?

Irene Ryan did not die on stage. She suffered a stroke during a performance of Pippin, and later died a month later in hospital of a brain tumor.

Irene Ryan and Bob Crane do Password:

Paul Henning discusses the casting of Beverly Hillbillies ... Bea wanted the role of Granny, but Henning thought she wasn't physically suited for the role:

In R73's Password clip, why is Donna Douglas playing as a regular contestant and not as a guest star?

Also interesting that Irene's voice in real life is the same Granny voice.

Irene’s hair on Password is positively vivacious.

Does anyone know anything about the famous acting scholarship created by Irene Ryan (or possibly bequeathed in her will) in her name? I've always heard of it but know none of the details.

Always liked it when granny threatened to spank Jethro with a hickory switch. On one or two episodes she actually does smack him around a little, once she whacked him on his nice ample behind with a frying pan. Max Baer, Jr. was gorgeous then and always way better looking than his father.

I have read that Granny was immensely popular with black kids watching "The Beverly Hillbillies"--does anyone know the reason why?

Max Baer said he disliked playing the role of Jethro, but it brought in a reasonable salary. He also said Nancy Kulp, a liberal, and Buddy Ebsen, an arch conservative, would sometimes have heated arguments on the set. Max Baer is the only surviving cast member of the regular stars on the show and is in his early 80s. He tried to start a Beverly Hillbillies themed casino and/or theme park in Reno but apparently it never got off the ground.

I just watched an episode Jed called Pearl his cousin.

As a huge Max Baer fan in my gayling youth, I was always disappointed that he never had much of a career after Hillbillies. But I was also under the impression that he was too rich and unambitious to care. I don't remember him ever appearing on a variety hour, celebrity quiz show or even a talk show at the height of his fame.

While he was never considered a serious actor, he did seem to have a penchant for comedy. It's too bad he was never in another sitcom.

[quote]Irene Ryan did not die on stage. She suffered a stroke during a performance of Pippin, and later died a month later in hospital of a brain tumor.

Did anyone here say otherwise, r72?

[quote] While he was never considered a serious actor,

I recall ONE movie where he played a kill-crazy Confederate soldier under the command of rebel officer George Hamilton. It was still big dumb Jethro, just as a psychotic.

Looking at his IMDB page he only has 22 acting credits. Irretrievably typecast I suppose.

He did produce several films, including Ode to Billy Joe.

Wasn't there a Max Baer jr jr ?

Granny was Jed’s Mother In Law. Granny’s daughter was named Rose Ellen. Pearl was Jed’s first cousin.

Max Baer also hit paydirt with Macon County Line and the movie version of Ode to Billie Joe.

A wonderful Irene Ryan story!

My mother used to be the P.A. for Nancy Kulp back in the day when good ol Nance had the dough for a P.A. (post Parent Trap).

Anyway, Nance had just gone through a very rigorous audition process in order to get the role of Ms. Jane Hathaway, on what would become the landmark television series "The Beverly Hillbilly's". She was assigned a dressing room with an actress she had never heard of named one Ms. Irene Ryan. Well, Nance and Irene got along famously from the get go, though, apparently, Nance was apprehensive about letting Irene know about her diggin the ladies, seeing as how Irene was 86 at the time, Nance suspected she might not take to kindly to having a lady co-star who liked to shave other gals Hams.

Well, how funny was it when after a long day of shooting, Irene packed up the castor oil and bag of hair that she always had with her and left the lot for the day. Nance thought that she had free reign of the trailer for the rest of the evening and invited a delightful Nubian extra named Puma into her trailer for some dinner and some hot finger fucking !!! Well no sooner had our girl Nance gotten up to her shoulder in Puma's Lady Ham than Irene walked in. Nance told my mom that she was caught "black handed" by dear Granny herself. Well, Nance was ashamed and had it not been for her damned collatta ring getting caught on some of Puma's internal lady skin she would have had her arm out of her in an instant.

Irene just looked at the two of them in their "compromising position" and chuckled. You could have knocked Nance over with a feather. Apparently, she was bright red so Irene soothed her fears and told her not to worry, she was totally cool with the fact that Nance liked to bump waffles and then proceeded to lift up her skirt and show her the tiniest pair of balls that Nance had ever seen (granted, Nance probably didn't see too many balls in her day, but still). Irene then explained that while she was all lady, she happened to have be en born with a pair of vestigial testicles right underneath her clitoris.

Ever since then, Irene and Nance remained bosum pals til Irene's death in 1974 and Nance never revealed her secret, except to a few close personal friends.

Now that is friendship!! !

Pearl, Pearl, Pearl don’t give your love to Earl.

Is it true that Pearl from BH and Kate from PJ were cousins? Did they ever appear together?

I love the lovely musical motif for Ellie May, especially whenever she's playing or carrying her beloved critters.

I love the episodes where the Clampetts go back to Bug Tussle and Silver Dollar City.

Wow, Exceptionally vile, even by DL standards. F&F r88

DIAGF ASAP

It's surprising that Granny's frequent promotion of child marriage hasn't been stripped from the episodes.

The Ozarks are in Missouri, not Kentucky.

[quote] It's surprising that Granny's frequent promotion of child marriage hasn't been stripped from the episodes.

I'm certain the SJWs can't wait to burn all the videos.

R88 blocked.

The Trumps are today's equivalent to the Beverly Hillbillies, but without the charm and humor.

r88 needs Granny's cure for alkyholism.

Jes' kiddin'

F&F r88. Fuckin' asshole. Not even funny.

I stopped reading 88 when it said Ryan was in her late 80s . She was actually 60 in 62...

[quote]I stopped reading 88 when it said Ryan was in her late 80s . She was actually 60 in 62...

I should have as well. Such a pointlessly nasty and unfunny post.

"Do you wanna walk or do you wanna limp". r88?

I'm not r88, but I've read variations of that story on DL for years, albeit with far fewer details than r88 offered.

What a great picture at R96!

R70 I'm not "forgetting" anything. No one went up into the mountains to marry dirt-poor hillbillies. Hence the inbreeding.

Mrs. Drysdale - greatest snob in tv history. LOVED her.

... and out from the bushes came Ellie May nude. Naked that is, not clothed. Well the first thing you know old Jed is over there, sucking on her titties and pullin pussy hairs.

Does anyone remember the Bawdy Ballad of Jed Clampett?

Only one line I remember is this: " ... and up from his dick come a-bubblin' sperm."

[quote]Granny states she is "Granny to them all." Which is reflected that even Miss Jane, Mr and Mr Drysdale and most everyone else calls her Granny.

When my brothers and I were young, it was decided that we needed an easier way to tell our grandmothers apart in conversation instead of calling each one "Grandma (last name)".

Our maternal grandmother was sweet, funny, and feisty, and so we decided to call her "Granny", in tribute to both Jed Clampett's mother-in-law and the batty Looney Tunes character who owns Tweety & Sylvester).

Fortunately, Granny loved the nickname, and that was her name to one and all after that.

In the South, grandmothers typically have made up names coined by the oldest grandchild.

Southern DLers can attest.

The casting of those characters was brilliant.

And at least during the first couple of seasons the acting was wonderful. They played it all very seriously... never for laughs. And that's what made it funny.

I met Donna Douglas once in an airport. She was so incredibly nice and sweet. She was on her way to make an appearance at some kind of dog-related benefit. She was instantly recognizable, and still had big, poofy blonde hair. She was very pretty, even at 70ish at that time! (around 2000).

She's great opposite Elvis in "Frankie and Johnny" as well.

The show is brilliantly cast and it's very telling that Paul Henning didn't cast his brilliant friend Bea Benadaret as Granny when that would have been most expedient. He knew she wasn't right and cast a complete unknown who was.

Has it really taken 114 posts before Raymond Bailey, the great character actor who played Mr. Drysdale is mentioned?

He was perfect playing the pompous fool and did it all in the perfect hair piece.

She's his sister AND his daughter, OP.

Irene Ryan wasn't an unknown. She had been in vaudeville and I've seen her in some old films as well.

R116 She was an unknown. For the most part, the public was totally unaware of Irene Ryan or her other career.

You have to remember too: people in the early 1960s did not have access old movies the way we do. And you couldn't stop a TV broadcast and look up the name of some obscure character actor the way we can.

And vaudeville "stars" of Ryan's ilk were long forgotten.

I remember the impact that Irene Ryan had with that show.... and the curiosity of seeing her out of her Granny garb. She was new to the general public.

Thanks, r117.

You beat me to the punch.

In defense of R88, that post has been around here for years. I suggest the infestation of straight fraus either get a sense of humor or kindly leave as we don't care to hear how constantly appalled you are by standard DL humor.

She was the happiest girl in town.....

About 15 years ago a friend of mine attended a wedding at Lake Tahoe and later told me that Max Baer, Jr. was at the wedding and was friendly and nice to everyone.

Yes, Donna Douglas was very sweet in real life. She also had the most realistic accent of the whole cast.

Raymond Bailey was wonderful as Milburn Drysdale, but he had serious problems in real life. I don't think he was friendly off-camera with any of his castmates, and was suffering from depression. It's interesting how the character of Drysdale evolved (or devolved?) from a standard banker in the early episodes, to a caricature of a money-obsessed greedy taskmaster later on.

122 posts and no mention of the man Elly May should have married, the HOT Dash Riprock!

Elly could have had Bolt Upright.

No, THIS guy was the one she should have married.

Nancy was particularly unattractive on this Perry Mason episode....

Nancy had a sense of humor.....

We never saw the bedrooms. Did Granny and Jed share a marriage bed?

The snobs hated a show that illuminated their own pomposity.

The Beverly Hillbillies received poor reviews from some contemporary critics. The New York Times called the show "strained and unfunny"; Variety called it "painful to sit through". Film professor Janet Staiger writes that "the problem for these reviewers was that the show confronted the cultural elite's notions of quality entertainment." The show did receive a somewhat favorable review from noted critic Gilbert Seldes in the December 15, 1962 TV Guide: "The whole notion on which The Beverly Hillbillies is founded is an encouragement to ignorance... But it is funny. What can I do?"

However, the real Americans living outside Manhattan loved it. For the first two years, the sitcom averaged 57 million viewers per week, or about 30 percent of the country.

January 8, 1964, marked the most-watched half hour broadcast in American television history. That Wednesday evening, 65 percent of people with television sets were tuned into "The Giant Jackrabbit,"

Glam Nancy.....

Always heard that Bea was the only Castmate that would make dyke comments about Nancy.

They did show Jed's room , it was filled With a brass bed and antiques from the hills.

The moment I entered this thread , I knew the DL standby of granny had balls story . (A DL mainstay ) would rear it's ugly head.

Correct, they did show Jed's room and also Ellie May's and a guest bedroom a few times.

[quote]We never saw the bedrooms. Did Granny and Jed share a marriage bed?

We saw Jed's bedroom when he faked having the misery ("Jed Gets the Misery") and we saw Granny's room when she was loading up the wheelbarrow with all of her stuff for her move back to the hills ("The Ballet").

But did they ever show Jethro's bedroom?

Fuck off R119. It's an ugly, stupid and unfunny story that reads like it was written by a straight male and takes up far too much space on the thread.

What's "the misery"? I heard that mentioned on Andy Griffith recently.

I think I have it figured out, Jed was married to Granny's daughter thus making Granny Jed's mother-in-law. Pearl, Jethro's mother, was married to Granny's son by some man named Bodine since that is Jethro's surname. Granny married someone named Moses after Bodine or went back to her maiden name. Jed is Jethro's uncle by marriage and Elly May and Jethro are first cousins. Someone upthread found the name of Elly May's mother/Jed's wife/Granny's daughter--maybe Granny's husbands, son and daughter all died in some plague. Granny came to live with Jed after her daughter died. If that doesn't figure it all out nothing will. I hope Max Baer will read this thread, maybe he can straighten it all out, even though he never much liked doing that show.

The pilot of "The Hillbillies" (as it was originally called).

It is fucking laugh-out-loud hilarious.

R137 No, no no. Jethro is Granny's grandson, not son. His mother was a daughter of Granny and a sister of Jed.

Jethro's mother was Cousin Pearl Bodine, according to Wikipedia. Her husband (Bodine) was the deceased father of Jethro. Maybe that's why Jethro lived with the Clampetts.

Except....didn't Mr Drysdale occasionally refer to Granny as Granny Clampett? How can she be a Clampett and still be Jed's MIL??

In the Pilot, Mr Drysdale identifies Granny as Jed's mother (when he welcomes Jed to Beverly Hills).

Pearl sent her children to live with Jed and Granny for a better life.

"Jerhro Bodine"... "Jed Clampett" ...could they have ever come up with better names? So perfect.

*Jethro

R143 Paul Henning came from MO and knew that world very well.

Every episode of The Beverly Hillbillies is on Youtube, and I often watch a few in a row, laughing my ASS off. The 1960s guest stars are always a huge plus. I randomly saw one which had DL fave Kathleen Freeman and the ubiquitous Phil Silvers!

It was known for its zaniness but it was actually pretty sophisticated humor to those in-the-know.

R146, That episode is hilarious (if it Is the one I am thinking of) Were Kathleen Freeman & Phil Silvers pretending to speak Spanish?

YES, r146! I believe they were con artists attempting to be mother and son! Insanity!

That one is a scream! If you have the link, could you post it? I can’t find it.

Found it! Iguana, iguana!

[quote]In the Pilot, Mr Drysdale identifies Granny as Jed's mother (when he welcomes Jed to Beverly Hills). Pearl sent her children to live with Jed and Granny for a better life.

Drysdale may have refered to Granny as Jed's mother, but he either spoke in error or they retconned it. Many, many episodes refer to Granny as Jed's MIL. Only Jethro was sent with Jed. Pearl's daughter, Jethrine (as others have said, hilariously played by Baer), she kept, and was always trying to marry her off.

That's a young and handsome Robert Osborne as Drysdale's assistant in R138's clip.

R152 While Drysdale does refer to Granny as Jed's mother in the pilot... I agree, their relationship was probably rewritten for the actual show. OR Drysdale simply assumed she was Jed's mother.

So her name was Jethrine Bodine?

[quote]So her name was Jethrine Bodine?

Yes. Tragic, really.

That clip not only shows Jethrine, but also verifies that Granny is Jed's mother in law, that Jed's wife's name was Rose Ellen (I believe someone has already mentioned it), and that Jed calls Pearl "Cousin Pearl". Guest star Louis Nye, Mr Drysdale's spoiled step son.

That's what I said r139--Granny apparently had 2 children, Rose Ellen, who married Jed and they had Elly May, and some son, at least a half sibling to Rose Ellen, with the surname Bodine who married cousin Pearl and they had Jethro and Jethrine. They were apparently more sophisticated as Pearl, once she found out about Jed's newfound wealth, criticized him in the pilot about living in a cabin without electricity or modern plumbing. Plus Jethro went clean through to the 6th grade and knew his ciphering and gazintas and he was the only one who knew how and was licensed to drive a motor vehicle. Pearl was probably a cousin of Jed's thus making him and Jethro cousins as well as uncle and nephew by marriage. Granny's son surnamed Bodine might have been a bad seed or a moonshiner in trouble with the law and just disappeared which made Granny more determined to be sterner with Jethro to make sure he didn't turn out like his father, her wayward son. None of that was mentioned in the series but it can be inferred if you think about it. I think more could have been done with the ideas about relationships, eg who Jethro's father was and maybe his appearance once he found out Jed was rich, etc. instead of scraping the bottom of the barrel at the end of the series where they go to England and find out they are royalty or something.

" .. and up from his dick come abubble-in sperm!"

Granny: Them red diamonds is pretty.

Jeweler: They're rubies.

Granny: Well, ask her if she wants to sell one.

Jeweler: The ruby I'm referring to is not a lady.

Granny: How she got them rings is her business!

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Beverly Caterers , Kathy Kersh, previously married to Burt Ward and Vince Edwards.

Jethro: Every day, after work, she picks me up, we drive up into the hills and park and watch the sun go down. And then you know what we do?

Jed: Elly May, go on in the house. (she does) Then what do you do, boy?

Jethro (excitedly): What we do, we climb into the back of the truck and eat all the vittles that's left!

[quote]That's what I said [R139]--Granny apparently had 2 children, Rose Ellen, who married Jed and they had Elly May, and some son, at least a half sibling to Rose Ellen, with the surname Bodine who married cousin Pearl and they had Jethro and Jethrine.

I *know*, r158. I gave you credit, but couldn't remember your number. I was providing video to back you up!

Well, coincidentally, Max Baer Jr. and Vince Edwards were the 2 major crushes of my pre-teen years!

Stupid cunt alert at R135. Read some of her scintillating posts and her oh, so deep questions. Talk about taking up too much space in this thread.

R63 = Butt hurt obsessive. Move along, toots.

Jed: She's my Sister and My Daughter!!

Didn't Ellie May and Miss Jane share an apartment at some point? Like in a later season...?

R166 they did and Ellie brought all her critters. Miss Jane complained of crabs soon after.

Pearl came from Jed’s side of the family, not Granny’s. There are a couple episodes that directly point out that Jethro and Jed both reference Pearl being on the Clampett side of the family. Pearl said she and Jed were “blood kin” and Granny was “ only a Mother In Law.”

r166

Yes, Jed was trying to get Elly a job, why? I don't know, except to move along the plot. (and if a job, why not at a zoo instead of a secretary?)

So Elly moves in with Miss Jane in her tiny studio, which has a pull out sofa and a murphy bed.

Then Granny moves in when Miss Jane teaches Elly and Granny about Women's lib.

After this, Granny and Elly move out, and Mike Minor, (from the cancelled show Petticoat Junction) is introduced as a new character who tries to woo Elly by making up stories. (Mike Minor's Petticoat Junction character had met all the Clampetts as "Steve Elliot," prior to being reintroduced as someone new)