American Horror Story: Apocalypse

As least it's not someone's mouth with something else coming out of it or going in.

He had a hot ass but he couldn't live forever.

[bold]Sarah Paulson Clarifies Dual Characters in AHS: Apocalypse[/bold]

[quote]"I'm not playing Cordelia and Billie. Did somebody say I was playing Cordelia and Billie? That's interesting. I may end up playing Cordelia and Billie. But no... I am so far I can say I'm playing two characters, but one of those names is correct and one of them is not."

I hope this is the last season.

Are people like Miss colton Haynes, Miss Matt bomer and C. Jackson are included?

Cody Fern has joined the cast.

R7, he simply must bare his ass or I will be furious.

R5, no one’s holding a gun to your head.

Has the full cast been revealed yet? Any of those talented postmenopausal hags and has-beens that Ryan is so fond of lined up for this season?

Evan Peters made a big announcement in a recent interview that he will no longer do the insanely dark roles he’s done for Ryan in past seasons. He’s done. Methinks Cody Fern will become the new Evan Peters.

Is this the season that ties in the first one? Will Connie Britton return?

I hate when they try tying seasons together. It never works.

Is Jessica Lange coming back?

r12 Yes. Probably not.

So is the Coven going to buy the Murder House and establish a West Coast School there? Because the ghosts in Murder House cannot leave the premises, except for the red headed twins- they can get to the yard border.

Cody Fern to play the anti-Christ (grown up Michael Langdon) in AHS: Apocalypse.

Mmmm... Cody ....

r16

I thought all the ghosts could roam the property, Hayden could, Violet and Hayden both left the house and went into cars

Is there anything Sarah Paulson won’t do for Ryan Murphy?

Hopefully, F/X is backing up the money truck to Jessica's door any day now.

[quote] Violet and Hayden both left the house and went into cars

They can do that on Halloween, but only on that day (night?).

r22

I think you are correct that Hayden was in the car on halloween but it was much later for Violet

Running on fumes

I wonder how big Cody’s dick is.

R25, 7.25” and beautiful.

I hope Anjelica Huston agreed to join the series as RM was planning. After all, she is one of the most iconic witches of all-time thanks to THE WITCHES... plus, according to DL, she is head of the Hollywood Satanic cult in real life. If we can't have Jessica, Anjelica will be sufficient. If Jessica does it, I see it as a surprise cameo or one-episode-only sort of thing, but I get the feeling it's not gonna happen. Hope to be wrong.

[quote] —Just don’t fucking watch it, and stop your bitchy whining

I'll do exactly

[bold]WHAT[/bold] I like

[bold]HOW[/bold] I like

[bold]WHEN[/bold] I like

[bold]WHERE[/bold] I like, and

[bold]AS[/bold] I like.

And if you don't like that, well: you can go shit on your mother.

Are we quite clear, hon?

This garbage is still on the air? I give it two more seasons, tops.

[quote] [R25], 7.25” and beautiful.

And how would you know?

Well, you get your wish, R29! The show has been renewed already to run through at least next season (S9 in 2019) and Ryan Murphy has repeatedly stated it is planned to be a 10-season series. CULT was by far my least favorite season, but every other season had more than enough to keep me entertained.

r29 That's pretty much what's planned, anyway.

Does anyone remember my last season ?

Sarah Paulson again ??? What IS IT with Ryan and that untalented hag ???

Sarah Paulson is anything but untalented. Ryan is the one who doesn't know his limits...

Will Lily Rabe be back and have a bigger role in AHS or did she fall out of favor with Ryan? Or is she just too busy?

The rumours said they'll bring Rabe back from the dead. We'll see.

Cody Fern is the new Evan Peters, except actually gay.

thrilled cody fern will be in this, he is brilliant and hot and a clever lad....

Please don't let Lady PukePuke be in this.

sarah Paulson aint nominated for awards ev year fer nuttin.

she is queen o da screen...

" plus, according to DL, she is head of the Hollywood Satanic cult in real life."

A reputable source, I'm sure.

This is Ryan Murphy’s final season. He’s handing the show over and going to Netflix.

The promo instantly got me interested, I hated cult and Roanoke so much, were dull, uninspired and drab. Hopefully this season returns to solid quality.

Why would the baby have claws on the hands and not on the feet? Wouldn’t they be the same?

He has...his father's eye.

I hated Cult- I stopped at ep 3 because I couldn't take anymore of Paulson's hysterical screaming and sniveling.

r46 - well he's not full Demon. Not yet at least.

Take me on a rocket ship to Mars, Miss R49!

Renewed for season 10.

[bold]'American Horror Story': Jessica Lange Returning for 'Apocalypse'[/bold]

[quote]"I have the great pleasure of saying, yes, she will be back," said Sarah Paulson, who's become the face of the horror franchise since Lang departed after four seasons and two Emmy awards.

[quote]Lange's American Horror Story return will be for its eighth installment, Apocalypse, a long-hyped crossover between the anthology's Murder House and Coven seasons. The actress will be reprising her original AHS roll of tragic and intrusive Constance Langdon. The character was last scene taking custody of her neighbors' satanic offspring, also playing a part in the new cycle. Paulson, reprising both her Coven and Murder House characters, said that Lange's appearance would coincide with [bold]Paulson's first directing gig on the show[/bold] — Apocalypse's sixth episode.

[quote]Confirmed returning cast for the new cycle include Kathy Bates, Evan Peters, Adina Porter, Emma Roberts, Cheyenne Jackson, Billy Eichner, Leslie Grossman and Billie Lourd, while Joan Collins joins as one very high-profile addition.

[quote]"The story begins with the end of the world," said Woodall. "It starts in the real world. It's very tangible, and it's a familiar panic."

[quote]Paulson also made it clear that she would primarily be playing her role from Coven, New Orleans witch Cordelia Foxx, also appearing as Murder House (and, briefly, Hotel's) medium Billie Dean Howard. Roberts is also playing her Coven role, Madison Montgomery. Murphy is said to have invited all of the Coven witches back to appear in this season, though it's not yet determined who else will be joining. Production only recently started.

I bet Jessica Lange soaked them for MILLIONS. I will watch it because of her,despite the fact I loathe Paulson with the heat of a 1000 suns.

So is Lange only doing the one episode that paulson's directing? Or will she be around for more? Or do we just not know that yet?

Fern was very good on Versace but there's something about his face I don't like. He's got the snootiness of an 80s teen movie villain about him.

r54 We don't know yet. But I'll be pissed if it's just a one-episode flashback cameo.

Cody Fern must throw a mean fuck.

One episode. Pffftttt.

I bet that Jessica will do more than one ep... just because her appearance "coincides" with Paulson's first directing opportunity does not necessarily mean (or even imply) that Lange is just in one episode. Either way: win/win.

Also, Ryan Murphy must have written Lange the scene of a lifetime for her to agree to do this when she was so vocally adamant that she was definitely done... well, that and buckets of money.

Billy and Billie return?

[quote]I hated Cult- I stopped at ep 3 because I couldn't take anymore of Paulson's hysterical screaming and sniveling.

That and the insane violence to cover up for a poorly developed story.

[quote]The promo instantly got me interested, I hated cult and Roanoke so much, were dull, uninspired and drab. Hopefully this season returns to solid quality.

A lot of fans loved Roanoke and the rating were great. Cult's ratings were in the toilet, which doesn't surprise me.

So will Cody show his ass? Will he fuck Lange?

So Lange will probably play Constance, right?

If Cody doesn’t show ass there will be a big gay boycott.

How’d he get them to obscure his buttcheeks in ACS? Did Darren not want to be upstaged?

Kinda sad that Cody is now working for Ryan Murphy on his last show for FX. He’s not gonna be asked for more House of Cards now that that’s ended. Had he done something with Ryan earlier, he would have been pushed the way Evan Peters was. Good that he’s getting work but none of it is gonna end up long term. He’ll get outed in press before you know it and become uncastable.

Cody’s brother’s ass is all over Instagram. lol

R68, provide a link!

R65, Yes, Lange will reprise the role of Constance in at least one episode.

She just purchased another flat at 1 Fifth Ave, which she'll likely adjoin to her existing apartment, so this extra bit of cash will help pay for new furnishings.

[quote]She just purchased another flat

At her age? Shameless.

R71, and at such outrageous prices!

Nope, R5. Lady Gaga has already committed to a central role on Aporkalypse.

R69.

First teaser. Looks good!

WTF? Cody Fern has a fugly bear brother who is constantly posting nudes of himself? Does he follow him on IG? So embarrassing.

I want Lily, Taissa, Gabby and Jamie to all come back along with Connie and Dylan. The crossover can't work if half of the main characters from both seasons aren't available. Although if they are, it could be complicated as most of the cast will be playing dual roles with Sarah and Evan possibly playing 3 each. Although Evan played 7 characters last season which I referred to as The Evan Peters Variety Hour.

There will be too much going on to waste time on Connie & Dylan

If Lady Can't Act and is Ugly is in this one, I'm out.

R79 who are you referring to?

It seems likely that Gaga will appear since she is the OG witch (her character in ROANOKE) but I assume they are going to wait to announce it. Since Jessica is back, I assume all the actors will be eager to return if scheduling permits.

R81 Good, that'll be an hour I can do other things.

Lady Gaga only played the TV version (re-enactment) of the Witch. Would be rather odd to feature her unless it's somehow tied to her AHS: Hotel character (before she got trapped?)

I thought Joan was being wheeled in to be the head-witch-in-charge

Please please please don't let Lady Puke Puke be in this with her shitty "acting."

[quote]the gays after knowing Jessica Lange is back for AHS

Are the gays even still exited about AHS? The AHS fans, sure, but (DL) gays in general?

Yes we want to see Sarah Paulson crash and burn again. What an overrated piece of crap she is.

Miss Fern is showing nip in the second pic.

Creepy eyes

He will fit in nicely

Will they make Fern’s character gay? I can’t imagine he could be taken seriously fucking a chick on screen. The antiChrist would be gay in Murphy’s world.

I'm so fucking sick of Sarah Paulson. Can't she find something else to bad-act in? Make her go away already. She's awful.

I love her. I could watch her all day.

*ALL* the witches are officially back... including Stevie Nicks!

I'm so glad Broccoli is back!

Love Lily, Jessica, Sarah, Kathy ... I fucking can't stand Evan. Maybe it's because all the characters he is given are so annoying. The only time I tolerated him was S3 when he was a zombie that couldn't talk. Cult sucked majorly.

CULT was so, so bad... I'm hoping for a Ryan-naissance this year since he majorly dropped the ball last season. AHS is my fav show, but even I was taken aback with how horrible CULT was. It felt like a low-budget version of the enterprise, with a snooze-worthy C-list cast. It seems like APOCALYPSE will bring it back to its roots (literally and figuratively), with an amazing cast, so I'm cautiously optimistic. Since ACS and FEUD are on pause for the foreseeable future, hopefully Ryan will give FX something strong to end on (along with POSE S2)... I doubt he will have a lot of involvement with his other FX properties going forward due to his Netflix deal, so it's now or never.

Except Cult is the perfect summary of what’s going on in the United States under Trump.

Sidibe was killed off on HOTEL.

The rules are out the window, folks

Expect the unexpected and buckle up, creatures of the apocalypse...

No mention of Jamie Brewer in Murphy’s announcement of the returning witches.

Is Cody Fern actually gay or is this DL fantasy?

R102, he’s gay. His boyfriend is Instagram ho Eric Smith. There are photos of them kissing, holding hands, referring to each other as bae and sharing clothes.

Titty.

No definition.

Hope to see this person too!

Will the one with the extra chromosome return? How about the pinhead, Pepper?

Pepper wasn't in either Murder or Coven. And I don't know whom your first reference is.

Cody Fern needs the lay off the makeup and get that hair cut.

I have not yet seen Cody Fern act in anything, but according to these pics he's quite ... unremarkable. But then maybe I am spoiled by social media instahos and CW himbo actors.

Miss Fern

I like Evan Peters more.

I have never, and will never, understand the lure of Evan Peters. Dude is flat-out ugly. Those coal-black eyes and jaundiced skin. He's a mediocre talent with trailer trash looks.

But you see the ugly mug at R111 as any better?

R110 I really like his acting in Versace. Not the most brilliant acting I've ever seen but still really good.

R107 and R108 They mean Jamie Brewer who has appeared in every season except Asylum, Hotel and Roanoke. I hope she comes back. I was pissed when Fiona and Marie Laveau drowned Nan in the bathtub. Those bitches. Addie's death in Murder House was heartbreaking. Great acting from Jessica and Jamie.

I'm also glad Lily is returning. Misty Day's death was one of the most upsetting deaths in the entire series after Ma Petite's. I'm sick of Lily's characters always dying.

One actress I hope comes back in future seasons is Amazon Eve. Loved her in Freak Show. Hated Dandy for killing her character and the other "freaks."

I hope Angelica Huston appears with Lady Gaga as previous Supremes.

If they're bringing back the Coven witches, I want the backstory on Mimi DeLongpre, and Ryan needs to bring in the eternally youthful CZJ to play her.

We all know this season will be a mess. lol @ Cody thinking his character is a fan favorite.

Ryan did ask me to participate in this season as the youngest member of the coven, but I've been too busy applying to colleges to contact him back. Perhaps I should...

I can't commit to any role in AHS since I have not yet been born.

Evan Peters is a dead ringer for musician Jack White. If a biopic is ever done about The Whites Stripes, Evan would be perfect.

Better photo. You can really see the resemblance here.

Who rates higher on the star meter:

Evan or Jack???

ahh ahs. UNFORTUNATELY since i do not have cable, netflix, or a good data plan, i will, per usual, have to resort to downloading episodes at 8pm or so from showbox or some other "legal" app, so hopefully by afternoon the next day it will be completed so I can watch it. LOL I regular use more than 10-15 gigs per month on my data plan, I hope my provider never switches to charging customers for it instead of punishing us with insanely slow speeds.

Does Cody Fern work union? Is he part of SAG now or what? He’s got to still be here on a green card. What are the rules?

My ex looked like a dollar general version of Evan Peters.

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Make a wish. #AHSApocalypse

1:00 PM - 21 Aug 2018

I want to see "AH: French Guyana.". I think cults and brainwashing is very relevant these days.

I hate to see Wiccans confused with Satanists. Its just ignorant.

Cults were covered last season.

[quote]My ex looked like a dollar general version of Evan Peters.

Wow, that's some kinda SHADE! LOOOL

Dylan McDermott at the Murder House filming AHS : Apocalypse. Rumor is that Connie Britton is back too.

When does the new season air?

Starts September 12

Thank you r134.

Dylan and Connie officially confirmed to return. This season is gonna be a starry affair, if nothing else!

So I guess Taissa will be playing Zöe and Violet?

I would assume that Evan will also be reprising his role as Tate since it’s his son who is the Antichrist

Wielding a cane

Tate’s back....

Good I loved Tate!

Violet and Tate

Can’t wait for this season.

Michael Obama’s black hand! I’m scared!

I know insiders on AHS and it's the same thing every season. Ryan has a killer premise, amazing promos and no scripts. By episode 7 or 8, the premise has played out and the writers have no idea what to do. To the point cast and crew have literally shown up to set without a clue what was going to be shot that day. No script.

I really wish he would write the season before shooting begins. OJ was about the only Murphy series that had a consistency and satisfying conclusion. Because that story was already written since it was based on facts. Feud should've been the same but unfortunately only the pilot was written when they began shooting so you can see it derail a bit and meander throughout its season. Watch any season of AHS and you see how it goes all over the place.

[quote]Pepper wasn't in either Murder or Coven. And I don't know whom your first reference is.

On the topic of Pepper, I wouldn't be surprised if she or other Freak Show characters turn up in a flashback to the Coven or Murder House in the late 40s or 50s. The freak show traveled around may have made a stop in LA or New Orleans.

Knowing RM and his love of Sarah Paulson, he'll probably bring old Lana Winters to do interviews at the Murder House in the present day.

Every time I look at Cody Fern I see Andrew McCarthy.

R145 You hit the nail on the head. Every season starts falling apart at the end. There are episodes that are almost one-offs that have nothing to do with the rest of the season. I thought the premise of Roanoke was great but the execution was disastrous. The less said about Cult the better.

Ryan Murphy just posted on Instagram that a trailer is finally coming soon... hopefully it will be this week. Can't wait.

It seems Friday nights are when stuff appears, so keep eyes peeled.

BTW I think this is the longest we've had to wait for a full trailer... well, besides ROANOKE (which was kept very secret). The show premieres in 9 days so they are certainly waiting until the last minute. I'll be curious to see how much of Ms. Lange is in this season... more than an episode or two, one can wish.

My understanding is that Jessica only appears in one episode directed by Sarah Paulson

I thought Pepper was killed in the Murder House bathroom?

R152 She dies of an illness off-screen in Asylum but continues to appear to Sister Jude as hallucinations she is having due to mental distress (causing her to lose track of time) and being over medicated.

I'm curious to see how they tie-in "Scream Queens" into the story?

Although R154 is being a cunt, SCREAM QUEENS was the result of Jon Landgraf asking Murphy to spin off COVEN and midway through that season they decided to do something similar, but new. It’s a blatant mash-up of COVEN and GLEE. Sadly, despite a game cast, amazing production values and an OK premise it was a mess and only got worse in S2. Too bad they never did the summer camp storyline as they were planning to do, could’ve been fun.

One of the actors in Apocalypse said that Scream Queens was going to be in the season somehow.

Let’s hope it’s through Glen Powell.

YAY CODY

AWESOME BRILLIANT HOT AS FUK ACTOR

gags, that vanilla red hed connie b.....how is this boring thing a star/???? wtf????

Last years promo was all about Bees. I watched half the season before bolting out of boredom and there was one scene where they were in backyard of the guy who yells at people on the street for twenty seconds and he had bees. Otherwise I never saw a bee, did they come into the story at all or was the promo just bullshit?

It was just bullshit, R160, and I'm pretty sure Apocalypse avoids bees as well - in case bee portrayals influence your television viewing habits.

When does it premiere ?

The day after the day we NEVER FORGET!

Hopefully this season features a lot of male asses.

Please bring back Zach Quinto and Teddy Sears.

Interesting R145. Explains Hotel. I’m an AHS fan and Hotel felt like drawn out violent nothingness. It was so bad. No writing no direction. My favorite seasons are the first and Asylum. Was CULT last season? From the sounds of it I shouldn’t bother watching that either... love Lily and Evan btw.

Sept 12

R162 has obviously blocked my immediate answer. Likely an orthopedic shoe type of person.

The sky will be so blue that day...

The bees had to do with the fear of holes.

AS the last five seasons have been absolute total shit, I cannot WAIT for the new torture

any way a hot boy/girl can gnaw on evan peters ????

[quote]OJ was about the only Murphy series that had a consistency and satisfying conclusion.

The first season of "Pose" was also excellent throughout, and had one of the most satisfying season finales in recent memory.

[quote]"Please bring back Zach Quinto and Teddy Sears.

I met Zach two months ago after the cross over was announced and I asked him if he was returning and he said no. Now maybe he wasn't asked yet or he wasn't allowed to say if he was, but at the time he seemed genuine he wasn't.

[quote]It was just bullshit, [R160], and I'm pretty sure Apocalypse avoids bees as well - in case bee portrayals influence your television viewing habits.

Well, I have no problem with bees even though I was stung over 100 times twice in life. I wanted to know if all these stupid promos with the black hand and red baby they are running now will have anything to do with the the actual show,

Teddy Sears with Dylan McDermott, mmmmm-mmmmmmmm

We all know Cody’s character is going to go all incest. Murphy has run out of ideas. And who gives a shit about male ass? Call me when they show dick. Murphy can go full dong on Netflix now. AHS is a Disney property next year.

R160, the bees were a metaphor for "hive minds" ala cults the main theme of the season.

Does anyone know what Zachary Quinto did to piss Ryan Murphy off??

I'd also like to know why Joseph Fiennes, Lizzie Brochere, James Cromwell and Michael Chiklis never appeared in a Ryan Murphy project again after their seasons.

R180 I've wondered about Quinto too.

I also wonder about the other people you mentioned. I didn't care for Brochere or Chikilis during their seasons so I was ok that they didn't turn up in later seasons.

Joseph Fiennes is busy with THE HANDMAID'S TALE, so it's probably difficult to schedule him for anything beyond a one-ep appearance, if that. No idea about Quinto, but perhaps he didn't enjoy the ASYLUM experience or Murphy doesn't have a role for him (yet). James Cromwell is more of a glaring omission since he did win the Emmy for his role on ASYLUM. Perhaps he's been busy, as well. I'm most surprised Lea Michele hasn't been given an APOCALYPSE role, but perhaps there is enough diva to deal with since it's such a star-studded season. Then again, she could be popping up later in the season and they haven't announced it yet. Either way, one imagines she will be involved with THE POLITICIAN series with Platt, Goop and B since it will be a musical.

Did anyone like Cult? I saw the first 4 eps and loved it. I like that it directly names and confronts the Repugs. I love Veep to death, but there's never a single mention of Dem or Republican. Dem viewers see Julia's character is one of us, and Republicans think she's one of them. That's how scripted shows usually handle politics, so carefully not offend any viewer. I could only see 4 eps because I haven't had cable for 2yrs, and it was so hard to find the eps available for free viewing, I just gave up. The streaming services won't have it until the new season starts, the way it's always been for AHS.

Last year I watched 3 episodes and I thought I could enjoy it, then it went too far, it got ridiculous and I turned it off.

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A glimpse of what tomorrow brings… #AHSApocalypse

6:41 PM - 4 Sep 2018

Nice find, R185!

It looks SPECTACULAR... fingers crossed.

Michael Chiklis publicly talked about how he wouldn't return to the show r180. Said he found it too dark and emotionally draining for him.

Zach Quinto has seemed dismissive about going back whenever he was asked. I remember one quote of his saying he is trying to move "beyond the genre stuff"

The promo in HD.

Madison will probably kill Zoe.

When does it start?

I am fine with Paulson but I prefer to look at an attractive guy.

R191 Don't worry Dylan McDermott and his beautiful butt are back.

Looks cheesy as fuck.

If Murphy really wants to camp it up, he will end the season with the ground opening up and Hell spitting out Davis (Sarandon) and Crawford (Lange) to walk amongst us again.

[quote]When does it start?

Wednesday September 12, 2018

full trailer

Jesus Christ, Cody Fern looks trans and this thing looks campier than Coven.

I had no idea Kyle Allen -- who played Hawk on Hulu's "The Path" -- was joining the show. Cool.

The word "camp" has become more amusing to me now that I know Murphy hates when his work his described as camp r197.

But it is Blanche, it is camp.

Looks kind of wild. I'm curious to see how Coven and Murder House play into this. I hope the witches don't become superheroes of the apocalypse.

[quote]'ll be curious to see how much of Ms. Lange is in this season

I think she is only in one episode, the one Sarah Paulson is directing. I would love to be wrong, but don't get your hopes up for a lot of Lange.

cody will steal the show.....I hope

Is Evan Peters in this season?

R200 My favorite fan theory thus far, is that Kathy and Sarah’s characters are witches in the employ of Michael Landon’s character. And that outpost 3 is the murder house now repourpsed as a satanic shrine.

I predict that Constance will be killed off and the ghost of old Moira will use the witches to get revenge on Constance.

[quote]Kathy and Sarah’s characters are witches in the employ of Michael Landon’s character.

This is going to kill Half-Pint!

Hat’s off to you sir(or madam)! May you receive all the W&W you deserve for that brilliant post!

What's the tie-in with Scream Queens?

This is so embarrassing for Kathy to be doing. I feel sorry for her.

r183 I liked Cult. It wasn't one of my favs but a big improvement on Roanoke,. My favourite seasons are Hotel & Murder House.

Gay twitter is loving it but the trailer is just... awful. The completely different tones/concepts are jarring, they've basically forced three different seasons into one.

The scene with Billy running through the street looks like something out of Sharknado 6.

JOAN COLLINS?! Yes, Blanche, it's camp all the way.

I found Cult incredibly boring, Roanoke was better.

The best for me are Asylum and Hotel.

Hotel was the worst followed closely by Roanoke. Cult was pretty good but nowhere near as well done as when Lange was still onboard.

Thats the funny thing about AHS, opinions vary WIDELY about which seasons are good and which suck. Usually there is more consensus when it comes to shows.

I'll watch it ONLY if we get to see more of Dylan McDermott's hot daddy ass.

Yes, please

Dylan McDermott doesn't even have a great ass or anything.

I mean I still like looking at it, but let's be honest.

R218 - You are banished from this thread.

"Ain't got time for the bitches."

Okay, there's no reason for Murphy to hire Joan Collins when Faye Dunaway is available.

He's a fan of her work - what's the problem? Is Faye that unhireable? I mean the stories about Collins behavior are just as bad, so why not Faye?

Collins will be wonderful of course, but I've always wanted Dunaway to appear on AHS.

Dunaway could play Lange's mother.

R222 - Ouch!

Obv no one here gives a fuck about AHS, but even haters gotta admit this was avant-garde and ballsy (pun intended). I think S8 may have some legs (and other appendages).

Bad link

DL will not let it happen. Go to @americanhorrorstory on FB.

that hag Collins is 83 !!!

[quote]gags, that vanilla red hed connie b.....how is this boring thing a star/???? wtf????

Connie Britton isn't a red head, she's a natural blonde. She also has great hair.

Stevie Nicks will appear this season. Let’s hope she suddenly shows up during the climactic finale, saves the world by kicking the Antichrist in the taint bone, and then disappears as mysteriously as she arrived.

I want to watch this but I hate commercials. Guess I'll buy the season on Amazon and watch starting tomorrow (amazon uploads the day after). I'll avoid this thread til the day after, so as not to have the eps spoiled for me.

[quote]that hag Collins is 83 !!!

85, darling.

Less than an hour to go...

20 min....

Here we go...

Ugh. I can't deal with the snakes in the opening title sequence.

Kewl...

Joan didn't make the opening credits.

10 mins in and already loving it....Joan Collins and Lesley Grossman! I just came

*THIS* is the AHS I love... Ryan is giving FX a gift (with the production budget to prove it). Hail Satan!

So, what is this - Handmaid's Tale meets Revelations?

Did she just say “canker pus monsters”? Did I hear that right?

Who made the opening credits?

Travis Schuldt is hotter now than he was on Passions.

So disappointing so far.... the bunker shit has been done.

Yup, R244. Not feeling it. Hating this bunker shit, and seriously - they went from 2018 to, what, some steampunk-inspired world where people all where purple velvet and have weird hair?

Shit, 'wear' purple.

Have the Harmons popped up yet?

not impressed, so far.. when do the characters from murder house and coven start showing up?

WTF am I watching? This is terrible.

All those good performers, what a shame about the douchebag storyline.

Joan doesn't have much to do.

IT'S CHICKEN!

Not soon enough, R248. I can't help but think this season is going to be one, big shitfest of disconnected storylines crammed together.

I feel like I've been watching this dreck for 18 months! ugh

18 months of eating 3 ice cubes a day and they're fat as ever?

unless he taking them to the murder house or a coven, i not impressed

"There's no stewardess?" LOL

People tuned in because of all the promotion that featured AHS Coven and AHS Murder House characters but they didn't lead with that which was stupid.

At least we got the Murder House grown up evil baby.

Gabourey/Queenie posted a photo where she was still shooting just recently so apparently the coven characters will be around for a few episodes when they do show up.

Relax people.....AHS always takes a few episodes to get going....

I'm guessing the new young guy who got into UCLA presented hole to Ryan Murphy?

I didn't see the cast list. at the beginning... who is this guy who just showed up with horses? He looks familiar.

that was it?

R258 That was Cody Fern. He played David in American Crime Story: Versace.

R257 Probably. Ryan likes the dark haired boys like Finn Wittrock.

I cannot STAND Naomi Grossman.

The black queen is annoying. He must die next.

Marla Gibbs c. 1958 irritates me. I think it's the deep voice.

You have superior DNA so you get to live, but don't fuck and re-populate!

[quote]I'm guessing the new young guy who got into UCLA presented hole to Ryan Murphy?

His name is Kyle Allen. He's on the Hulu series called "The Path" where he plays either a gay or bi teen.

He's also an acrobat and a former ballet dancer.

Joan's character: "This is probably fake news. I'm calling Donald..."

Jeffrey Chapman is a godawful actor, he stank up UnREAL and now he's stinking up this

Thanks, R260 That's what I recognize him from.

Dreadful. This was the first year no screeners were sent out to the press. Now I know why.

My brother works on the Fox lot and saw them filming AHS on Monday. He does something unrelated and he was just passing by so he doesn’t really have any good info, but it never ceases to amaze me that this show seems to start airing before it’s even finished.

Dina Meyer is fugly and shouldn't have been paired with Travis Schudlt's character.

R269, most shows are still filming when it starts airing unless they're Netflix or something when they all debut on the same day.

Some of you sluts are way too quick to judge. Its a limited series- meaning theres an overall story. Give it another episode before acting like babies. And to what R269 said- most shows film while airing. Fuck! Some of you are stupid.

I hope there is a flashback to Joan Collins' character and Natalie Wood.

[quote] Some of you sluts are way too quick to judge. Its a limited series- meaning theres an overall story.

You obviously are new to the mess that is AHS. Murphy jumps in with no set story and everything ends up a mess.

So the Cody Fern character, the guy who showed up at the end with the horses is Michael, the grown-up Antichrist baby?

Is Ryan Murphy even involved in this turd anymore? Are people still watching? Why?

R256 - no, that's not true. AHS usually starts off big and pulls you in, then kind of craps out near the middle. This crapped out after the first 5 minutes. I hope Ryan's horribly cliched version of the Apocalypse is a bit of a joke and will flip soon, but I don't hold out much hope.

“Satan’s Spotify playlist”

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! A Spotify reference! So fresh and now!!!

Ha ha ha ha ha! Bring on the refrences to fidget spinners and Fortnite!

I'm calling it now Joan's character is a cannibal serial killer and had ties to the Murder House.

Joan Collins said in an interview recently that they are filming until the end of October....and that shes playing 3 different characters......the rich grandmother in the first 2 or 3 episodes, then a different character for the following 2 and another character for the remainder.

I loved the Murder House music when Michael arrived.

I'm guessing the sanctuary young Satan is talking about is Murder House, and he'll take all the hot ones there. The old fatties are toast.

[quote]AHS usually starts off big and pulls you in, then kind of craps out near the middle.

Exactly. Even if this weren't AHS any show knows that the first episode of a season or even of a series (since this changes every season) has to draw the viewer in.

This one barely acknowledged that the Murder House baby from a season that aired in 2011! appeared for new viewers.

Who was the hot guy who got shot for being radioactive?

Her first character, R280, appears to be Alexis Carrington.

Anyone notice how bad the acting was? People were phoning it in.

It looks like they made Michael's wig based on Connie Britton's hair lol.

He wasn’t really radioactive, the Kathy Bates character faked the whole thing just to murder the guy. Because she and the Sarah Paulson character are sadists.

Kathy Bates' outpost character will probably be a descendant of Delphine LaLaurie.

That's possible, R287. They look exactly alike.

Shocked anyone hates this campfest, scariest and most intriguing pilot of any season since Hotel (which I adored). Absolutely loved every minute and purports to be an epic season. The Agatha Christie feel, the elegant mise en scene, end of the world politics, LGBT storylines, etc. But I loved Hotel so I guess this is more of the same for haters.

This was just radioactive horseshit.

Is an episode 2 promo up somewhere?

I disgree R289. Hotel opened up with Matt Bomer (and his ass) + Lady Gaga killing people in a blood orgy. We see Donovan die of a drug overdose, Sally gets murdered by being pushed out of a window and we end with Wes Bentley's detective appearing to solve a series of murders involving brutal deaths.

Hotel's first episode was full of shocks.

This one was just ... the title is Apocalypse so that's what we got but really we just have a group of people hanging out in a bunker.

Ryan Murphy should have hired Betty Buckley.

She did such a fantastic job as the evil grandmother in "Preacher."

Betty is scarier, and a far better actress than most of the hags in AHS.

Also, Betty is much more stylish.

The Coven witches vs. Michael will be the final battle.

Even Supernatural is better than this crap.

Better stories and better acting, too.

Ryan Murphy has always directed the first episode in the past, but tonight's episode was directed by Bradley Buecker. I wonder why Ryan didn't direct?

I think that's why the first episode seemed a little lackluster to me. It didn't have the usual cinematic flair that Ryan brings.

I liked it.

R298 so did I

The People v. OJ was better that AHS because Ryan Murphy didn't write it. It was being developed by the screenwriters from The People v. Larry Flynt before Murphy got involved.

All reviews are positive so far, appreciably. There were no screeners, so everybody will recount as they will. Variety was a rave, as well.

Also, Bradley Buecker has directed the pilots of all three seasons since HOTEL (ROANOKE and CULT, now APOCALYPSE.

Lady Puke Puke isn't back this season, is she?

Cult is set to premiere on Netflix on September 18.

Joan is not healthy, they only show her sitting and her range of motion is nulll

Wrong, R305, they showed her boarding the plane and also walking around elsewhere. Watch, don't speak.

Evan is Freddy from Scooby Doo

The opening scene was very exciting.

Unfortunately, that awful actress Adina Porter is back. She's horrible!

R306. The plane shot was clearly a double. She has not walked "elsewhere".

Wasn’t Tate the father of the antichrist baby? Evan Peters plays another character in this episode, the gay hairdresser guy.

This might get confusing.

[quote]Unfortunately, that awful actress Adina Porter is back. She's horrible!

I kind of liked her on True Blood. But, I couldn't stand her last season on Cult and it pissed me off that her murdering bitch character got off scot free at the end.

Dreadful. Feels like it was written by a high schooler.

Cunt at R309, Joan walked with Evan in her first scene at her manse, then at the airport, then boarding, elegantly. She’s 85 but she is fabulous and how dare you throw shade. You’re burnt champagne.

Timothy is smoking hot.

I want to "copulate" with him.

Sorry Evan, there's a new twink in town!

Joan is 85?? She looks FABULOUS.

I wasn't sure what to expect of this episode, but this first episode was really good.

Scarier than I thought it would be, and it's more sci-fi than any previous season - which I like.

I also love the costumes/clothes. Very stylish, rivaling the Hotel season.

Plus, lots of gays and lots of cute guys.

So far, I'm liking it.

its ok, sorta slow, am an hr in....

am watchin for evan hot peters !!!!

Kathy bates alwys fab.....and sarah the divine.

joan is great comic relief

w/o her it would be zzzzzz

This stew is Stu!

So is the bunker run by lesbians?

Rumor was Ryan was obsessing on Handmaids Tale. You can see it. He's very derivative. I've loved most other AHS seasons. This is lame and childish writing. Two dimensional characters and stiff, expository dialogue.

R283, Chad James Buchanan

I wish Ryan would have just made Leslie’s character Mary Cherry. Coco’s mannerisms in the salon and wealthy petulance had shades of Grossman’s popular Popular character. You know Miss Cherry would have finished everyone’s portion of Stu stew.

[quote]Unfortunately, that awful actress Adina Porter is back. She's horrible!

I like her and she was also nominated for an Emmy for AHS: Cult.

The only thing that slightly grates is that she's stuck between an English and British accent.

Since Angela hasn't returned, she's stuck around for the past couple of seasons. It's also nice to have someone else in the series who was in Season 1 even if people have forgotten she had an appearance as the woman who had a husband who thought she was boring and was boring while trying to explain it to Dr. Harmon.

[quote]Kathy Bates' outpost character will probably be a descendant of Delphine LaLaurie.

[quote]That's possible, [R287]. They look exactly alike.

They've shown, in Hotel, that the characters don't notice when other characters look like people they should know. Queenie from Coven didn't notice that Iris looked like Delphine or that Ramona, March or Liz Taylor looked like other people she should know when she appeared in Hotel.

luv the cute cody fern guy

hot smart dark goth vampirey studmeat

has the most charisma on the show

MOREEEE

Oh, please, Fern looks ridiculous. He looks trans with all that makeup and wig.

[quote] The only thing that slightly grates is that she's stuck between an English and British accent.

Huh?

Uh, Michael Langdon aka Cody Fern was wearing his mother’s look, billowing strawberry locks included (Connie Britton). If that went over your head... well, pun intended.

R327, neither of her parents are American but they spent a lot of time in England. She talked about it in an interview once. She has picked up on slight bits and pieces of their accent.

Once you listen for it, you can hear it.

[quote]He wasn’t really radioactive, the Kathy Bates character faked the whole thing just to murder the guy. Because she and the Sarah Paulson character are sadists.

Plus, they needed him for food.

[quote]Scarier than I thought it would be

What did you find scary? I thought it completely lacked any tension..

Hot male asses and Jessica made the show good!

Adina Porter's Emmy nomination for Cult is a joke.

I liked it but it's time for the people who consider Evan Peters hot to give it a rest. You wouldn't look at hime twice on the street if he wasn't on tv.

don't diss my man fern !!!

These are the world's best and brightest? A glorified barber, a talk show host, a couple of Insta-hos, a kid who wasn't sure he could get into UCLA and an 80 year old who brings exactly what to the table! Hot mess. And who exactly landed the plane?

I did enjoy them trying to figure out what the coded message was in "The Morning After."

the pig lady who played the spoiled bitch who had the plane, she sux…..why they hire her????

ANNOYING

VERY MISCAST SERIES

Judith Anderson was a better Mrs. Danvers than Sarah Paulson.

It was so boring and lacked any kind of excitement that the first three seasons had. I could give a shit about any of the characters. It's already a mess. At least Ryan didn't wait until midway through to mess it up.

r338 duh!! Although Diana Rigg did a very good version in a PBS remake...

R287 Delphine's daughters and husband were all hung in Coven by the voodoo witches as retaliation for Delphine mutilating her slaves and Marie Laveau's boyfriend.

[quote]Delphine's daughters and husband were all hung

Pics please.

Sarah Paulson needs to work on her 'cane' acting. I didn't believe she needed it to walk for a second. She never put her weight on it, and seemed to use it just for a sound effect.

R343 Once old hag Holland Taylor needs to use cane Sarah will learn then.

Is Faye Dunaway in American Horror Story: Apocalypse? I only watch American Horror Story: Apocalypses if they have Faye Dunaway in them.

The lamest part was the sudden and jarring transition narration by the UCLA guy describing the passing of time and his blossoming love for the city jail girl. Puke.

Wow, so many bitter bitches! It’s just the first show, jeesh.

[quote] He wasn’t really radioactive, the Kathy Bates character faked the whole thing just to murder the guy. Because she and the Sarah Paulson character are sadists.

[quote] Plus, they needed him for food

That whole scene was reminiscent (to me) of the Rocky Horror Picture Show dinner scene.

Sarah Paulson was like Frank-n-Furter, when she kept eating Stu, and rolled her eyes when everyone was screaming.

Stu's boyfriend was like Columbia, screaming that Frank was eating Eddie.

And everyone else was everyone else. I especially loved Joan Collins in that scene. Boy, she does "camp" well. I guess it's because she's British.

R336,

[quote]These are the world's best and brightest?

No, some of them are there because they could afford the trip and some of them are there because of their unique genetic code. Both of those groups become "purples."

We know the second reason is why the two younger people are there. The other ones (except for the gay couple which I'm not sure they explained) could afford the 100 million dollar fee for the shelter.

Apparently Joan Collins paid $100 million to enter the bunker yet what value does money have in a post-apocalyptic world? Did Neiman’s and Walmart survive the blasts? Whole Foods?

So. Stupid?

Joan didn't pay the $100M. Grossman's father did for her, his wife, son and himself but they died in Hong Kong.

Was the plane on auto-pilot? Can they land themselves? Lazy writing.

What were the gay couple doing there? They could afford the $100m or were they there because of their superior DNA?

R350, no one said when the 100 million was paid. Grossman's father could have made arrangements years before just in case this happened. Whoever the money went to had the chance to spend it and build/fortify shelters with it. Everything else outside would be contaminated. You can't eat irradiated food or wear irradiated clothing.

Seems like the gay couple would have been there because of their finances or else I doubt Bates' character would have killed one. That directive seems to come from higher up than her.

Sarah Paulson is really miscast.

Having Sarah Paulson walk with a cane is like the biggest gift they could give to DL.

R353 I don’t think the Kathy Bates character got any kind of directive from higher-ups to kill that guy. She and Sarah Paulson’s character are going rogue from The Organization (or whatever it’s called.)

Twilight in a bunker with Dark lesbians.

The Handmaid's Tale, in the sunken place, with some cliched internet conspiracies thrown in. Lazy, dumb, and dumb.

Love Sarah P but it’s tough to believe her as a menacing, steel-hearted leader with that lithp.

The pilot-less plane apparently landed itself with no issue.

Mary Cherry looked directly at the nuclear blast (you could litterally see the blast's reflection in her eyes) and can still see just fine.

Why bother with realism...

R360 To be fair, it is called American Horror Story - It's hardly a gritty documentary.

R356

[quote]I don’t think the Kathy Bates character got any kind of directive from higher-ups to kill that guy.

Right. They did it because they felt like it.

The theory was about the people who were genetically chosen to be there. They were dragged from their homes whether they wanted to go or not and automatically became purples. The directive was to take them in even if they didn’t pay for some other purpose. That would have come from whoever is in charge of all of this.

So the half of the gay couple that was killed likely was there because he paid and is disposable.

[quote]So the half of the gay couple that was killed likely was there because he paid and is disposable.

Does that mean that the surviving half is going to have to fuck women?

[quote] Mary Cherry looked directly at the nuclear blast (you could litterally see the blast's reflection in her eyes) and can still see just fine.

No, the blast was several thousand feet below her. She couldn't have looked directly into it.

Those poor horses

R293. I so agree. Why the fuck is Betty Buckley not on this show....she'd kill it! And where is Patti Lupone? Maybe she will be back for the a Coven cross over?

The PILOTLESS PLANE thing is one of the online conspiracy theory cliches(along with the "Purple" revolution and others - this schtick was in the last AHS too w Evan Peters' character). There exists technology to turn any aircraft into a remote-controlled drone, and has for decades. So the conspiracy theory is that this is how 9/11 was done(by our government or factions within and not by "muslim highackers", who weren't even properly trained to fly).

I thought it was good and will keep watching.

I thought Lange was back.

Joan Collins as Alexis ads a bit of interest.

Lange is back for I think one later episode.

The premiere was a ratings bomb; the lowest premiere on record.

[quote]Joan is not healthy, they only show her sitting and her range of motion is nulll

Hmmmmm. The old gal looks spry to me.

Fern looked horrible in that wig . Extremely unflattering. That said-I adored the clothes all the characters wore.

R366 Ms. LuPone is currently in London rehearsing for Stephen Sondheim's "Company" which oPens to weeks from last night.

That's TWO weeks not TO weeks

Karen Carpenter playing non-stop in the bunker reminded me of when they would play Dominique non-stop in the Asylum season. And once again Grossman and Eichner are playing a married couple. Ryan Murphy needs to stop recycling elements from previous seasons.

“The Morning After” is by Maureen McGovern, not Karen Carpenter.

"The Morning After" was also the name of a movie about the apocalypse starring gay icon Janet Alexander.

[quote]So is the bunker run by lesbians?

Aren’t they all?

No the movie with Jane Alexander was Testament and it was shattering.

R377, they were playing Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft for the first two weeks in the bunker. That's Karen Carpenter.

I loved the opening pre-bunker, the bunker scenes did get a little dull.

To those wondering about the gay couple, it wasn't explained but clearly they were somehow very rich and paid, they weren't selected for their genes because they wouldn't be there as a couple. And I think Jeffrey Bower Chapman seems like a great guy, but it is true that he isn't a great actor unfortunately.

Joans Collins was a lot of fun, she helped save the bunker scenes which could get a bit dry.

I was wondering if Sarah Paulson and Kathy Bates were supposed to be lesbians together, I thought it was going that way, but the show stopped short of showing it as a sexual relationship. Though if they are that is one incredibly gay ass bunker.

[quote]not impressed, so far.. when do the characters from murder house and coven start showing up?

Well technically they are already there. Cody Fern is the kid from Murder House, they made sure to show the last name Langdon.

[quote]Is Cody Fern actually gay or is this DL fantasy?

Not DL fantasy, very much gay and in a long term relationship.

[quote]Hot male asses and Jessica made the show good!

Evan Peter's butt made an appearance.. It's not American Horror Story unless we see his cakes.

[quote]Lange is back for I think one later episode.

Yeah, reports seem to indicate she will be reprising her role as Constance for one episode. Pity it is not more, given the son she raised is the main antagonist.

Murphy had Lange play the same character four seasons in a row, of course she wanted to leave.

Stu's bare ass was nice, too.

I loved seeing those two guys' naked pillows side-by-side.

Lange and Murphy closely collaborated on all of her characters, esp FREAK SHOW (which was her idea in the first place). She did not play the same character, at all, so please fuck off.

And, one episode of Lange (or more) is more than you bitches deserve.

So, the sadistic dykes torture kill off the cast, or they run off and get eaten by mutants, and the straight couple survives.

The End.

[Quote]She did not play the same character, at al

You know this is bull, the characters were all the same car with new paint jobs. An excellent car, but you are still driving the same model.

I think its going to be several separate stories.....even Joan Collins said she plays 3 or 4 characters...one in the first 3 episodes, another in the next 2 episodes and then another and another for the remainder.

Since all the seasons of AHS happen in the same universe with crossover characters happening in several past seasons, does that mean future seasons will have to take place in the past since the planet is now a nuclear wasteland? Joan Collins character makes a reference to Trump so AHS Apocalypse takes place in our current time, but how is Michael Langdon so old? Murder House took place in 2011 yet he looks at least 30.

Fuck this timeline

I hate you, R392. And love your attention to detail.

There will be an excess of flashbacks.

But everyone still gets murdered by the dykes, until someone murders them, and the two little cute heterosexuals will be Adam and Eve.

The End.

The Antichrist ages faster than homo sapiens. Duh. They established that in S1 when he was already a toddler at a few months old. He's at least 33 by now.

Has Sterling K. Brown joined the AHS-verse?

Praying that is AHS S9 cast, R396.

R390 Damien, you're a stupic cunt, cuz in Murder House they clearly stated "three years later" before the last scene.

And you're prior movies sucked. Especially the second and third ones.

The consensus is in.

It was a bad move to announce that Lange would make her grand entrance in episode 6. Definitely hurt the ratings, especially playback/DVR.

Lange fans be going wild.

😂😂😂😂😂

They did establish Michael Langdon ages faster. If you remember in season 1 Michael developed really quickly in utero, much faster than a normal pregnancy.

I don't remember a damn thing about season one except a nice butt and Constance

Well at least it's good to know that in the Apocalypse there will be black lipstick.

[quote]I don't remember a damn thing about season one except a nice butt and Constance

I think it's completely memorable.

Murder House was held back by Dylan McDermott's weak acting (even though yes he was gorgeous and naked).

Surprisingly he pulled a really strong performance out of his ass for Asylum the next season, I didn't know he had that in him.

I think pushing Sarah Paulson as a lead these last few seasons has hurt the show. Though a decent and sometimes good actress, she's not star material. Her, I want to be Jessica Lange schtick doesn't help.

I can't believe they still haven't centered a season around Lily Rabe. She's fantastic.

Also, in the wake of Lange's absence, they should've pushed Bates, Conroy and Bassett more.

[quote]Also, in the wake of Lange's absence, they should've pushed Bates, Conroy and Bassett more.

You don't make actresses of this calibre play second fiddle to Lady PukePuke.

R409 To anybody, really. It's a shame.

[quote]Also, in the wake of Lange's absence, they should've pushed Bates, Conroy and Bassett more.

It seemed like they were going to head in that direction after making Bates, Bassett and Lange leads in Coven but Lady Gaga ruined it all by appearing in Hotel (the entire plot was changed from a Civil War piece to what we saw) and everyone was automatically kicked down to second fiddle that season to someone who hadn't acted before.

Bates and Bassett returned for Roanoke in roles that had been reduced even more.

Angela was done after Roanoke but she's still on another Ryan Murphy show.

I was surprised by the acting of Paulson and Bates. They seemed kinda lackluster to me and they ususally raise the material.

I started watching Roanoke again beginning at episode 4 and the acting is great. Episode five when the introduce the Polks (Frances Conroy: 'I like my meat sweet' and yelling full throated emotional anger at Paulson and Gooding, Jr for killing her son) and Edward Philippe Mott (Evan Peters: '...your velvet tongue and purple cockhead') is a fantastic and really creepy episode.

Then episode 6 starts the sequel reality show Three Days in Hell with the whole cast (real and dramatic renactment actors) and it really gets weird.

Liking it much better than when it originally aired.

Frances Conroy is so talented but Ryan Murphy seems to refuse to really take advantage of her. After Lange she is the best actor he has, but he keeps her to these small supporting roles.

I'm so ready for the witches and Harmons/Tate/Constance to show up!!!

When did Conroy lose her eye?

How Ryan didn't cast Conroy as Agnes Moorehead for the Sweet Charkotte episodes of FEUD is sad mystery.

If Ryan knows what's he's doing, Constance will end saving the day.

That's not Lea DeLaria; it's Kathy Bates as Lea DeLaria if Lea DeLaria wore makeup!

I hope this gets better, 1st show sucked, writing was bad, acting was bad

18 months and no one lost an ounce of weight eating nothing but that cube? I'm not sure this is a documentary.

I love when Evan plays gay. I wish he was bi in real life.

If the beginning of Apocalypse takes place in October 2019 and we jump 18 months later to April 2021 then how do you explain the final episode of Hotel which takes place on Halloween 2022 (when Billie does her annual ghost hunting show in the Cortez) where the Earth and the human population are shown perfectly fine? I know Hotel came out years before the crossover, I just want to know how they're going to explain this discrepancy and make it fit into continuity.

Also, I think the Witches are raiding the bunkers looking for Michael Langdon so that they can kill him. In previews they're shown walking outside without hazmat suits (their unique DNA probably makes them immune to radiation).

If long-haired LeStat-looking dude agreed to have his horses shot and fed to mutants, how the fuck is he going to get back to wherever the fuck he came from?

This is all absurd.

My only problem is how they're going to balance three different casts from three different seasons in one season consisting of ten episodes. I really hope the return of the Murder House and Coven characters isn't Ryan's usual hype and in reality only consists of one or two episode cameos. There was hype about Freak Show characters appearing in Cult when in reality it was just one character briefly appearing in a couple of nightmare sequences.

There was a theory about the guy and girl who were chosen because of their DNA being Witches or descendants of Kit Walker's kids (which makes them cousins, bleh) who were conceived with the help of aliens from Asylum.

I bet Joan Collins is also playing a previous Supreme. It would be a waste if she didn't.

R422 - a lot of absurdities besides just that. I also can't stand the horribly cliched vision of the future.

R423, My guess is the Harmons will only appear in one episode before the Apocalypse since the house wouldn't be there at this point. They could easily tie into Michael Langdon's backstory since they're next door to Constance and Connie Britton's character is still Michael's mother even if she's dead.

The witches were shooting anywhere from two weeks to a month so it seems like they will appear in more than one episode. Someone else pointed out that Madison Montgomery might be related to the original owners of the Murder House also named Montgomery.

I just don't know when they would have to time to explain how Myrtle (who was burned at the stake), Queenie (who died in Hotel), Misty (who is trapped in hell and her body turned to dust) or Madison (who was killed at the end of Coven) are back unless they're all dead and Queenie's ghost can leave the hotel since it was destroyed and the dead can walk around freely since it's Halloween.

I think the Harmons and Constance will be part of flashbacks/backstory.

R425 - don't you remember how in Coven everyone got killed off but miraculously brought back to life? That was one of the most annoying things about S3.

In episode 6, they will reveal that either Michael Langdon or the ghosts of Murder House murdered Constance. She'll be a ghost now.

Also, Bunker 3 will be revealed to be attached to the Murder House, hence the appearances of all the ghosts.

“ don't you remember how in Coven everyone got killed off but miraculously brought back to life? That was one of the most annoying things about S3.”

That’s when I lost interest in season three. And everything after that season was unwatchable for me. They dropped the “story” part of American Horror Story. It was just Grotesque Montage Series after that.

I still don't understand the love for Coven. I thought it was great until every character kept getting killed and coming back. That got annoying fast and made me feel like I should stop watching, because what are the stakes? If no one can actually die, why should we care when they're in jeopardy?

Exactly R429, it’s storytelling 101. Maybe Ryan Murphy and company think they are geniuses who can simply ignore time-proven human psychology with campy trash TV.

People just remember it for how fun it was at first r429. Sure it started off really great and entertaining, but Coven ended up being a disappointing mess. It had the most dramatic drop in quality of an AHS season.

R426, It was very annoying but even that had rules. Misty's body disintegrating was their way of saying she can't come back. They even warned her during the test since she could always bring herself back that this was a one way trip. Even though Madison was brought back she still looked like a corpse because it had been a while. The same would have happened with Myrtle being burned to a crisp. You had to have a body to bring someone back to when you gave them the "breath of life." They would have to find Queenie's body first to bring her back. It's possible they did after the season. We'll see.

And R431 was right, it was fun at first and by the end it completely fell apart.

In the season preview it looks like the witches are doing the 7 Wonders with the people from the bunker. I'd speculate maybe if they are they're really bringing back Queenie, Misty and if Zoe died off screen her too.

I am watching it now. The opening was good! It’s been good for 20 minutes. Then Sarah Paulson showed up as the melodramatic bride of Frankenstein or whatever the fuck she’s supposed to be and I feel certain it’ll be downhill from here. She is not a great actress. I don’t understand why everyone belongs to her fan club.

Murphy can do gross-out scares but he doesn’t understand how to take magic or witchcraft seriously.

My trouble with the show is that each season is now too high concept. I want to be scared; I don't want to see Murphy's latest take on the presidential elections or global catastrophe or whatever, since it's sure to be fairly shallow.

Honestly the show has harldly ever cared about actually being scary r435, that's not really the concept of the show funnily enough. "Roanoke" is the only season that has really tried to go for legitimately scary.

R435 Yes. People here say Designing Women was preachy and unsubtle. Compared to Murphy’s shows, Designing Women was practically subliminal. Sarah Paulson gets the Julia Sugarbaker monologues in this show, except that her delivery isn’t half as commanding and the context makes no sense. So far I’ve learned a nuclear winter was orchestrated by the global Illuminati who, by the way, have disdain for social media and electricity, eugenics is a thing, except that for no reason in particular wealthy morons are allowed to have willed their idiot offspring to live in luxury with the genetically superior people. Also: “We dress for dinner around here.” Barf.

Also, the ringmasters of this nuclear bunker bought a shitload of stage makeup with them.

Who or what caused the nuclear destruction, so earnestly reported by the Fake Don Lemon? Trump blowing up North Korea?

Now, my unadulterated love for Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan and Mary Cherry could possibly be clouding my judgment, but I think Joan and Leslie Grossman came off the best. They both looked like they were happy to be there and glad to have a gig, unlike some of the others, who were obviously just phoning it in.

One bizarre thing to me is how no one seems to be on the same page. It's like Joan, Leslie and Evan are doing comedy horror, Sarah and Kathy are doing a late-80s Vestron Pictures occult movie, and the boring teen couple have wandered in from a Freeform drama series.

It's been one episode r439, you can't expect everything to be explained.

And I completely agree r440, I thought Joan Collins and Leslie Grossman were the ones that carried that premiere.

R439 Bride of Frankenstein Paulson said or implied that the planet was bombed intentionally as a global purge. She called it a “purifying fire” or something. They selected who would be pulled into the bunkers and enjoy fancy threats from a woman who so desperately wants to be in a Drag Race skit that she brought Jeffrey Bowyers-Chapman along.

So the characters played by Leslie Grossman, Billie Lourd and Adina Porter are going to be possessed by the spirits of Madison, Misty and Queenie as opposed to full on resurrections or some other means? Lame and half assed.

OK, forgive me or block me if you must, but I am basically live tweeting here as I watch the show. Jeffrey Bowyers-Chapman just screamed “ahhhhh....Stu is stew!”

This IS an actual RuPaul’s Drag Race camp comedy skit, isn’t it? It’s just like their tribute to John Waters about eggs.

Joan said on a recent interview with Larry King that she has not seen Ryan Murphy on the set. So how involved is Ryan with this production? Is he busy working on his Netflix series?

I don't think Ryan Murphy has been involved in the day to day running of AHS for a long time now r445.

I should clarify that doesn't mean he isn't involved, but he is just involved in the big picture creative process, he is not down in the trenches actually navigating the ship.

The opening credits say the first episode was written by Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk.

Oh and they send messages on the show using carrier pigeons. 🙄

R449, you are confusing passenger pigeons with carrier pigeons, or more aptly, homing pigeons, which still exist.

R450 How dare you correct me using FACTS!

Despite all the bitching, this was the most enjoyable episode of AHS for me since the beginning of Coven. I’m way too disillusioned by the series’s abysmal track record to be hopeful but I will watch the next episode.

[quote]There was a theory about the guy and girl who were chosen because of their DNA being Witches or descendants of Kit Walker's kids (which makes them cousins, bleh) who were conceived with the help of aliens from Asylum

I think the writers will probably go with pne of them being descendants of witches. It would be interesting if one of them turned out to be a descenant of Kit Walker's kids.

Over the past couple of years, there have been online theories that the character of Kit Walker or the aliens would appear in a later season. I remember some people were hoping that the aliens and Kit were going to turn up on Roanoke.

Yeah, why the Aliens were so interested in Kit Walker is a mystery that AHS should return to now that they are obsessed with the concept of connecting all the seasons.

R445, He's been totally focused on The Politician for Netflix. He hasn't been that involved with the FX shows since he signed the big deal with Netflix. He directed an episode of Versace, but that was it. I don't think he even knew that his production company had a show on FX called Pose.

R454 The aliens/Kit Walker storyline of season 2 seems to be forgotten. I remember when that season originally aired there were theories that Ryan Murphy would eventually do a season of AHS devoted to alien abductions or Roswell.

They could have done some weird alien connection story in Cult since Marshall Applewhite and Heaven's Gate were covered in that episode.

R454 Murphy let it slip in an interview years ago that the aliens were meant to represent God, i.e. they were kin to angelic beings and despite their grotesque appearance, they were benevolent. This is why Sister Jude also came face to face with them fleetingly. Despite her sordid past, they got in the way of. her potentially being murdered in episode 3 because they new she had redeemed herself and was inherently good despite being misguided. Later, in the last episode, they heal her of her emotional pain before she succumbs to cancer.

They were drawn to Kit Walker because he was the purest and most noble of all of the characters.

Collins revealed that Angelica Huston told her Ryan asked her to be in this season.

I hope she shows up and shares scenes with Lange and Collins.

Is Ryan Murphy having financial problems? He's got so many shows out at roughly the same time.

AHS Pose Politician ACS Feud

Am I missing any?

Ryan Murphy signed the most lucrative TV deal in history with Netflix r459.

$300 million. Is that salary or including budget?

How did the pidgeons and the horses survive?

[quote]I remember when that season originally aired there were theories that Ryan Murphy would eventually do a season of AHS devoted to alien abductions or Roswell.

Murphy was asked if he'd do alien abduction story line and he said no because the show is called American Horror Story and it has to take place in American and not space. I thought that was a ridiculous answer.

I think Murphy liked the Betty and Barney Hill UFO story and thought it would be cool to do a small storyline based off of it and probably got bored with it and then used the aliens to bring back Grace to life and that was it.

R463 Murphy should try a one- or two-part TV movie about it and leave it at that. He has proven beyond a doubt that he excels at introducing a concept and always fails as the concept drags on beyond its first few episodes. Why not just make TV movies as if they are going to be series, and sever everything that follows the beginning? It would leave people wanting more instead of disappointed.

R465 Years ago, cable networks like USA, FX, and TNT made TV movies. They stopped once they started focusing more on producing one hour drama shows or sitcoms. Cable networks like Lifetime and Hallmark are still into the TV movie thing becaue they mostly shot movies in Canada for cheap costs.

In the 90s, broadcast networks had a lot of interest in the topic of UFOs and alien abductions. CBS had an alien abduction mini-series called Intruders. FOX had their own mini-series involving alien invasion that featured Scott Bakula and Richard Thomas. I also remember when NBC did a campy alien abduction movie that starred Markie Post and Candace Cameron as mother and daughter targeted by aliens and the network has had short lived drama Dark Skies which did involve Roswell and Betty and Barney Hill.

R466 I know, and I’m saying Murphy should get into making cable movies. It wouldn’t be lucrative and so he won’t. But his TV series always start off interesting if nothing else and then quickly nosedive into unwatchable camp with no ideas. A lot of short story authors say that their best stories start out as novels and then become great stories because they recognize the idea can’t carry a novel but can be compressed into a powerful short story. Murphy’s ideas may have potential to do that. Imagine if Glee, American Horror Story, Nip/Tuck had been one-off movies. He would be so legendary for throwing out these little brilliant, outstanding, unique gems and leaving people to think about the ideas. Instead he gets people thinking and then delivers nicely packaged turds to them week after week.

Glee was originally written as a movie by Ian Brennan. It was Murphy who told him that it would be work better as TV show.

They just confirmed that Cody Fern buttfucks Evan Peters in this. lol How original.

R469 Where was this confirmed?

Ryan Murphy, Evan Peters, and all over official Twitter accounts. Promo also previews the scene.

I thought that was Zach Braff playing Michael.

r471

any links? I don't see anything on the twit

I love it so far. I imagine they move from one bunker to the next and we'll meet more guest and guest stars. Evan Peters must suck one mean cock if he managed to get his girlfriend Emma Roberts in the main credits without her even being in the first episode while others are being left out.

R474 Maybe Roberts was in a masked costume in ep 1.

[quote] Evan Peters must suck one mean cock if he managed to get his girlfriend Emma Roberts in the main credits without her even being in the first episode while others are being left out.

This happens all the time. Roanoke (talk about a piece of fucking swill) had several actors in the credits from Episode 1 who didn't show up until Episode 2, 3 or beyond.

I'd be into a Cody Fern/Evan Peters sex scene. Bring it on.

I've heard rumors that there is one actually r477, but we will see.

The rich bitch was right. For 100 mill you should get better service and food. Hell, for 100 mill you can build your own shelter with underground greenhouse growing vegetables and fruits and a walk in freezer with tons of packaged meat. And you don't have to slum it with other strangers or some crazy den mother with a cane. But then it was nice to see her getting slapped. Bummer about the hot ass though getting killed over nothing just so Kathy's and Sarah's characters could mess with the group.

She was right R479 and you made an important point.

Kathy and Sarah's characters twisted and perverted whatever the place was originally intended to be. They're also sadists. They've gotten away with it since nobody from the organization running it has come to visit.

For all we know there could be piles of food somewhere and they're playing a game with the guests to screw with their heads with that "one cube" then "half cube" a day business.

Ummm.

lmao.

Ugh.

Still laughing at Cody Fern's Twilight Vampire getup. Looks like this will be a dark comedy horror season. Maybe they even go there and spoof the entire AHS run.

Oh, man. Joan Collins and champagne. Leslie Grossman. This could be really funny or really bad. Well see by the 4th episode.

So they are saying the Devil's baby is gay?

C'mon, R486 - you saw the flouncy strawberry wig. You tell us.

I'd imagine the antichrist would be willing to sleep with whoever helped it achieve its goals.

R487- when I saw that, I thought, "Oooh, they're being so timely with a transgender Anti-Christ".

Is Ryan Murphy lowkey a self-loathing gay?? How come all the gay male representation in his shows are either stereotypical/annoying/unlikeable??? And the fact that they die rather fastly. I don't even have to guess that Stu dies in that event.

Are there werewolves in this?

Just Gaga when she misses an appointment at the waxing salon.

Why are people so mean on this series? So vicious, really.

I hope Joan Collins' character ends up being the Pale Horse of the Apocalypse.

[quote]Why are people so mean on this series? So vicious, really.

Welcome to your first Ryan Murphy production.

OUTSTANDING DIRECTING FOR A LIMITED SERIES, MOVIE OR DRAMATIC SPECIAL

Ryan Murphy, The Assassination Of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story - “The Man Who Would Be Vogue”

I give them one more episode to show evan peters' ass....if not

ima gone.

They did already.

[quote]How come all the gay male representation in his shows are either stereotypical/annoying/unlikea - ble??

Because if you’ve ever left the house, you’d notice that it’s a fairly accurate representation. These are not supposed to be likable people, and unfortunately, they are every other person in ANY gay bar in the universe.

I'm so over this series.

[quote] How come all the gay male representation in his shows are either stereotypical/annoying/unlikea - - ble??

It's called American Horror Story, not Afterschool Special for Gay Acceptance.

[quote]I give them one more episode to show evan peters' ass....if not

They showed it in the first episode.

R502 - Screen caps?

A bit strange through that the help scrubbed the naked guys' backs while standing and then ordered the guys to lay down on the floor in order to scrub the same area again.

I think Ms. Venable and Ms. Mead were originally greys who got sick of waiting on the actual people in charge of the shelter, staged an uprising, murdered them and then took their place shortly before all of the residents arrived. It makes perfect sense seeing as how it was confirmed that they were merely posing as purples.

Does Evan Peters perform hardcore porn this season? If not, I am so done with this series.

I hope the Evan Peters/Cody Fern sex scene isn't just a rumor. I can see those two having some hot chemistry.

Paulson is supposed to be the supreme witch, is she not? I can’t get into the idea of a crossover anthology season in which actors from prior seasons play totally different characters, but presumably other actors from the original seasons will play characters who shared the screen with the actors playing new characters. That’s needlessly complicated and sloppy.

Ever since Hotel they’ve had actors playing multiple characters in the same season. Finn Wittrock played Tristan and Valentino and Sarah played Hypodermic Sally and Billie Dean Howard. Likewise in season 6 Sarah played Audrey/“TV Shelby” and Lana Winters. I am kind of used to it now.

This show is stale.

R509 I turned off the premiere of Hotel and didn’t go back after that. It was graphic torture porn and that is not what I bargained for when I got into this show. I was pleasantly surprised with this season premiere, but I suspect it’ll nosedive quickly into a ragged mess of spectacle with little to no story like most of the rest of the series.

I really liked Hotel! It was visual stunning to watch. Great cinematography and direction, killer soundtrack, Matt Bomer looking gorgeous, and Dennis O'Hare killing it as Liz Taylor and Evan Peters killing it as James March. The premiere was everything and the kitchen sink thrown at you, but it came together and maintained a coherent storyline.

I'd put it as probably my second favorite season after "Aslyum". They catered to Gaga well, making a product that was just stylish and sexy.

That's true R512 but the only one that came out well during the season was Gaga. That wasn't the idea any of them signed up for originally. They changed it at the last minute and it showed. It was all style, no substance or even less than these shows usually have.

[quote]Finn Wittrock played Tristan and Valentino and Sarah played Hypodermic Sally and Billie Dean Howard. Likewise in season 6 Sarah played Audrey/“TV Shelby” and Lana Winters. I am kind of used to it now.

Were they ever in the same scenes with one another, R509? The Tristan/Valentino was intentional since the Countess wanted someone that looked like Valentino, her original one true love. She indicated at the end of the series that Donovan was her one true love after he killed Valentino because he loved her and sacrificed himself for her since the man she met at the bar looked like Donovan and had a "jawline for days."

I don't think they can avoid having Venable in the same scenes as Cordelia.

When Sarah Paulson’s character was introduced and she said her name, this was the first thing I thought of.

r514......I thought this......

[quote]I don't think they can avoid having Venable in the same scenes as Cordelia.

Why would Cordelia even think about Venable? Presumably her goal will be taking down Michael. I think you can write around that, and I imagine they will.

[quote]When Sarah Paulson’s character was introduced and she said her name, this was the first thing I thought of.

The first thing I thought was this:

[quote]Why would Cordelia even think about Venable? Presumably her goal will be taking down Michael. I think you can write around that, and I imagine they will.

Venable and Miriam are pretending to run the shelter R516. Michael, for now, believes them.

A bunch of witches are going to show up at their door soon so who would let them in?

Wouldn't they want to speak to the people running the place? We already know they're in the same shelter as the others at some point from the season long preview where they have three of the guests laying on the floor so they are there long enough to have a conversation with them and do that. Are they going to have Venable run and hide every time Cordelia turns a corner?

They're probably after Michael but you don't think they'd want to talk to whoever he is working with? They could possibly write around that but it would be very silly unless Venable is dead by then or chained up in a dungeon.

Umm, have any of you idiots ever heard of split screen? They did it on the Patty Duke show. They can do it here. Capice?

One of Sarah Paulsons characters gets killed by the zombies or what ever they are in the preview.....it didnt look like Venable.

Do the zombies eat her face?

The question was whether or not a single actor playing two different characters from different seasons had been on screen at the same time NOT if there was the technology to do so, idiot.

While they've been on the same season and even episode there has yet to be a conversation between two characters played by the same actor that anyone can seem to think of.

I saw that too R520. I guess we'll find out if it happened before the episode and we're seeing her ghost in the episode or after they get to the shelter.

It looked like Billie Dean.

Am I the only one here who finds Billie Lourd totally useless as an actress? She sucks the life out of any scene she is in. Beyond wooden.

She was the best thing about Sceam Queens.

^^^Scream Queens^^^

American Hack Story: Smackayoulips

I thought this was who Sarah Paulson was playing....

No R523, AHS shoots only few episodes at a time , the trailer most likely comprise of the first 2 eps that were shot, so it has to be Cordelia Foxx. They show 3 witches walking with many scenes, so most likely they show up in ep 2/. So they most likely have Foxx die from Madison power play

Via Miss Murphy: Precious, Paulson, Cheyenne, Mary Cherry, Frances, Taissa and 3 dudes (Evan, Cody and fat guy?)... the witches (and warlocks?) are back!

I hope the last 2 characters standing at the end are Constance Langdon and Fiona Goode.

I'm waiting for Ryan Murphy's next installment: AHS: Fox News....

Starring Sarah Paulson as Laura Ingraham, and Kathy Bates as Sean Hannity.

Also starring.... (help me out here, DL'ers)....

Howard Stern already did it, R532.

DL Deplorable Amy Schumer was involved, actually. Very funny. They've done many sequences thus far.

FOX NEWS: THE MUSICAL.

Is Joan? I could not believe my eyes.

R530 oh dear, did Murphy really call her Precious? That’s not her name, it’s the name of a character she played.

Gee, I hope we get flashback scenes that show each of the witches being agonizingly vaporized by the nuclear bomb and then, you know, just carrying on with their everyday lives since all of the witches seem to continually die and just carry on.

As much as I liked some aspects of Coven early on, that whole dramatic-death-followed-by-still-alive-and-bitchy thing completely ruined the whole series for me.

[quote]She was the best thing about Sceam Queens.

How can you even say such blasphemy with Niecy Nash and Glen Powell right there? They made that damn show.

And yeah, Billie Lourd is a very limited actress r524. Oh look, isn't it funny how she is monotone and emotionless, repeat ad nauseum.

What people are saying about Bates and Paulson’s characters doesn’t make a lot of sense to me storywise (and so it’s probably true, because if American Horror Story fails at one thing consistently, it’s story).

Their characters are just pretending to run the place, people above suggest, because they got bored or they were left alone and figured they could take over when the new people arrive, and so they made it into a grand horror show to entertain themselves. How long have they been there? It looked in the pilot as if all the nukes went off within hours globally. So were Paulson and Bates bored after 20 minutes? Why is the bunker decorated like a gothic library if the whole goth-horror setting is their design, hijacked from the builders? Why does the staff there (the “greys”) follow their orders? Why is the bunker stocked with Georgian-Victorian robes and gowns made of crushed velvet and velour if these two women came up with the scheme? None of that adds up. Anyway, once blond Dracula showed up at the end it became clear that this is his aesthetic, not Sarah Paulson’s character’s aesthetic. And in the trailer, Bates says “Hail Satan” to blond gay Dracula, and blond gay Dracula throws his arms up in a grand “I am Satan and I am fabulous!” gesture. So given all the context, either Paulson and Bates were installed in the place and given the authority to be fabulous resident advisors, or else the storytelling is shitty and poorly thought through. Going by the series’s track record, I’ll assume the latter.

I am Nordic Satan!

I am FABULOUS!

Watch me command...CONFETTI!!!

“MORE WIND MACHINE!!!”

Does Satan intentionally resemble Ronan Farrow btw? Is this a manifestation of Ryan Murphy’s worry that he is on Ronan’s radar? Hmmm!

Juicy.

Did Cody request to no longer wear the Connie Britton wig?

[quote]Their characters are just pretending to run the place

If true then it's a direct rip-off of the iconic Grindhouse classic "Don't Look In The Basement"

Second episode already on FX+. They don’t even care anymore. Evan sex scene will be everywhere before you know it.

You'd think FX would milk the remaining project, or projects, Murphy's doing for them. The Assassination of Gianni Versace just won some major awards on Monday. Big win for FX.

It's on FX+ to entice people to sign up for that premium service, not because "they don't even care anymore."

R546, it’s gonna leak online, dipshit.

r547, If they didn't give a fuck anymore they'd leak the whole seeason on Pirate Bay themselves. They can't control what their FX+ customers do with their content. That doesn't mean they don't care. They just want to take advantage of hardcore fans who can't wait for the next episode and pay for a service to see the episode a tiny bit earlier. That's their main focus.

Billie Lourd was brilliant on Scream Queen and was consistently the highlight of every episode. I'm guessing that wasn't just an in-character schtick, because she does the same thing in everything else I've seen her in and it's wearing thin.

Ggffh

What are we looking at here?

{quote]If they didn't give a fuck anymore they'd leak the whole seeason on Pirate Bay themselves.

The whole season hasn't been shot yet. They are only a month ahead of airing.

Since Halloween falls on a Wednesday this year, they better have a fucking *SPECTACULAR* Halloween episode... I don't remember if this has happened in the past? Maybe S1? And, it will be Episode 7, so one assumes it will include Lange or directly follow up her grand return.

I won't spoil the episode, but I will just say if you think the witches are appearing just because they are in some previews, they are not yet! That was definitely cut from future episodes and not from the second one.

R554 well shit. Now I care less about this episode. What was the point of doing a crossover with Coven and Murder House if they wont be in it much?

R554, please post some spoilers

Si, r534, is Joan!

What is happening? Our tv at work has parental controls locked so I can't see it.

The Harlem Globetrotters just took the court.

She's baaaaack! Ryan Murphy instagrams a photo of Jessica on the AHS: Apocalypse set.

What the fuck did I just watch ?.....Kathy Bates is an android ? I saw Joans death coming a mile away......I mentioned up-thread I thought this would be several separate stories as Joan said shes playing 3 or 4 characters.

[quote]What is happening?

In a nutshell.

Rubberman fucks Evan Peters

Evan Peters kills Joan Collins

Kathy Petes is an android.

Michael Langdon is playing mind games with everyone and causing chaos.

Lol, Kathy Bates*

Show gets dumber and dumber. It’s the most boring season they’ve ever done.

How is Rubber Man there?

Did they go to the Murder House?

Is it Halloween???

What a hunka hunka burning piece of shit.

Unwatchable .. ..hate it

Yeah, I felt it was a fairly slow episode. I feel bad because "look, it is Evan Peters playing a prominent gay character!"...but I don't find the character that engaging and the episode revolved around him a lot.

I appreciate that there’s something of a story/plot so far. That’s better than many other seasons. But that’s meeting a low bar.

So I assume Rubber Man isn't Tate because Tate can't leave Murder House.

Who knows if the old rules still apply when the antichrist is involved r570. The metaness of having Evan Peters fuck Evan Peters seems like something Ryan Murphy would like.

When you go from Jessica Lange and James Cromwell to Leslie Grossman and Billy Eichner as stars then you just have to accept a sizable drop in quality.

Hawk from The Path!

So two seasons in a row, Evan Peters goes gay.

I wonder how he feels about it?

Does he actually want to do it, or does he feel like he HAS to do it, to stay on the show?

Don't get me wrong. As a gay man, I enjoy seeing him play gay because I find him incredibly hot. It would just bother me, if he didn't really want to do it.

I just can't with the snakes. They fucking gross me out.

old joan Collins rather ruins it.....she so out of place.....like a fossil thrown in with hotties. she like from a dime store novella. YOU WERE 52 WHEN ELVIS TOOK HIS LAST SHIT

EMMY !!!! EMMY !!!

YAY CODY FERN, VIVA FRESH BLOOD

That scene with Evan and the Leather Guy was HOT!!

I absolutely loved that speech made by Joan Collins, explaining why she deserved to live and her grandson deserved to be left behind.

Whoever wrote that was genius.

I feel that way about all Millennials.

hot show.....lots of sex fukkery with evan and cody,,,,,kinky innuendo and fuk yes more plz

them 2 are the hearts of sex of the show

yay old Collins is dead

we hope

she was like the ghost of Carrington 1977

bye bye

R574 Well he looks like he has fun with it.

I like to think him and Emma are indeed together, complicated but in love, but both (or at least Evan) bi and exploring that wherever they can without actually coming out.

[quote]Don't get me wrong. As a gay man, I enjoy seeing him play gay because I find him incredibly hot. It would just bother me, if he didn't really want to do it.

It's his job R574, he's an actor, he gets a paycheck, none of it is real. I'm sure he's fine. MARY!

R570, it was quick but they showed Michael Langdon doing a ritual, naked, covered in blood. While it wasn't his "body" it was probably just him corrupting him.

R554, The Witches are in the next preview too but something else is happening, "HALLOWEEN!" The previews can't be trusted at this point but it would fit with the theory that they're dead and only returning that night because they can.

Here's the promo for the Halloween episode next week

Started a Part 2 thread just in case.

These threads fill up so fast, and we don't want the party to end!

I figured it would tank around season 5. I wish I was that lucky. What a disappointment and a bore.

Ugh, sorry, I meant episode 5

Murphy World is an interesting phenomenon...he latches onto these actors and people who watch his shows talk about Evan Peters et al like they’re huge masterful thespians, and people who don’t watch Murphy’s shows have never seen or heard of most of his players. I’m not talking Lange and Bates, obviously; I’m talking mainly Paulson (who is known in the real world but regarded as The Supreme among many Murphy series for reasons I don’t get), Peters (he’s cute...has he ever acted in a non-Ryan Murphy production?), Grossman (who??). When people say, “oh, this great actor will be wasted in this role,” all I can think is “it’s the only damned role the person ever had.”

“From 2004 to 2010, Peters appeared in numerous national commercials for established brands such as Kelloggs, Papa John's Pizza and Playstation. During this time he also had recurring roles on Disney Channel's Phil of the Future and The CW's One Tree Hill. In 2010, he had a supporting role in the superhero film Kick-Ass.”

Oh! OK, then. I stand corrected.

He's also Quicksilver in the X-Men movies and kind of steals the show everytime he does his running thing.

R574 It's three seasons now. Don't forget the bathtub, purple cock head scene with his servant (slave) in Roanoke.

Enough with the damn snakes, already!

The reactions to the snakes here surprise me. People are really freaked out by them. I felt myself literally roll my eyes when the snake showed up in the opening sequence. Oh, the devil is here now, and so here is a snake. Innovative! Oh, suddenly there are many snakes. Unexpected! They are slithering on the floor in a generally unthreatening manner, just trying to get to safety. Terrifying!

HOLD ME!!! I’m skairt!

I wonder how Kyle Allen feels about being in another snake symbolism show.

I think I'm the only one who's had a reaction to them, R591, and it's because I hate the fuckers.

R590 From the University of Florida: “The chances of dying from a venomous snakebite in the United States is nearly zero, because we have available, high-quality medical care in the U.S. Fewer than one in 37,500 people are bitten by venomous snakes in the U.S. each year (7-8,000 bites per year), and only one in 50 million people will die from snakebite (5-6 fatalities per year). Did you know that you are nine times more likely to die from being struck by lightning than to die of venomous snakebite?“

Snakes are timid animals. They’re not people hunters, for god’s sake. And I am fascinated that almost every known human civilization throughout documented history has regarded serpents as some form of deity—either good or evil, usually more sensibly as supreme creatures capable of both good and evil—and yet today even though they pose virtually no danger to American people, they’re seen as demonic beings.

In full disclosure, I am a demonic being and so I may be biased.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It would satisfy me if by the end of this season, jt turned out to be a mockery of LOST—just an aimless, abysmal netherworld inhabited by horrible people who died in an airplane crash while the rest of the world went on about its business. It would also be pretty meta, since Murphy’s shows are essentially the same—aimless, abysmal.

Come to think of it, I would appreciate the honesty if a season of American Horror Story ended abruptly with the screen going black and text that reads THE WRITERS HAVE RUN OUT OF IDEAS. WE APOLOGIZE, BUT WE WERE UNABLE TO STITCH TOGETHER A COHERENT NARRATIVE AND ONLY CAME TO TERMS WITH THIS REALITY HALFWAY THROUGH PRODUCTION. THIS SEASON IS OVER. WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED SOME PARTS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN. THE END.

R595 - that struck me. What also struck me about Bates being a Cyborg is - WESTWORLD. Maybe Murder House now creates some type of WESTWORLD experience for those who pay up.

From the emails we now have an exact date, it is October of 2021.

So there person who mentioned it doesn't fit with Hotel's flashforward to 2022 would be correct.

It's all just so very dumb.

It is dumb. And I am OK with dumb. It’s just consistently disappointing that the show usually starts with a cool premise that someone could probably execute well and fucks it up, and that so much attention and innovation are applied to the art direction, but it’s just a very high-end veneer lain over a pile of steaming feces. The stories are SyFy worthy and the visuals are HBO worthy.

Come on... AHS has always been silly. Were you expecting Chekhov?