Wimbledon 2018

Men's draw:

Early first round matches of note:

Richie Gasquet vs. Monfils

Paire vs. Murray

AND

Grigor vs. Stan

A better link.

Nadal got another cake draw. Not that it matters that much. I know everybody knows that Nadal is vulnerable on grass so he must need to play really great to have options. He could be a dangerous rival in final rounds for not mentally strong players (or young and naive ones) but now that Federer kick his ass in their last five matches i find difficult to believe he really have chances (he lost against Poulille in an exhibition)

Final will be Delpo vs Cilic. Delpo wins it in five sets.

Wimbleton

can't believe Nadal got such a great 1st week draw. Federer got a good first 3 rounds too.

heading into Wimbledon, we have 3 finals tomorrow:

Eastbourne: Wozniacki vs. big hitting but mental case title-less Sabalenka & M. Zverev has another chance at a first title against also title-less Lacko

Antalya: title-less Mannarino vs. DL fave Dzumhur

so we could end up with 3 new titlists coming into Wimbledon but we're guaranteed at least 1

so

American Alt-Right meets Serbian Nationalist Tit Tosser in the first round, too.

There's a BI about a male player being as angry as Cibulkova about Serena being seeded at Wimbledon

Link, r8?

For which I'm wishing the first Wimbledon sinkhole occurrence, R8...

R7, that is....

In this situation, I'm all for Boobies (about the only situation, really)

The no 1 court with retractable roof is complete . However I think roof/cover over Halle and Hamburg stadium is much cheaper and efficient . Why tennis stadium construction do not go for that option ?

so today in Antalya Dzumhur def. Mannarino for his third title. Mannarino is now 0-5 in finals. Not as bad as Benneteau's 0-10 record though

In Eastbourne, Wozniacki def. Sabalenka and M. Zverev def. Lacko for his first title.

Williams has a point. She was No 1 and had to sit out to have her baby. It's stupid for her not to be able to come back. It's only fair if male players are required to sit out when their wives are ready to give birth, then to make it back if they can the next year. Women souldn't get punished for being women. Besides, Serena Williams is one of the best Americans athletes, period. She is also great at Wimbledon.

She better look great out here though.

Excuse me?

[quote]Women souldn't get punished for being women.

No one was "punishing" Serena for being a women by denying her a seeding in Wimbledon . Just like no one is punishing Murray [two Wimbledon champion ] foe being injured by denying him a seeding . Using emotional phrases like "punishing for being woman" and "punishing for being a mother" is a good tactic to intimidate already ultra PC executives of AELTC/ATP /WTA. But it doesn't make logical sense .

And guess what who is now been "Punished for being a woman " and for not "choosing to be a mother " ? Dominica Cibukova, who also happen to be a WOMAN !! She decided not to be a mother and instead did lot of "personal sacrifice"[see what I did here ?] in last one year and worked hard for her ranking . And now she is being "punished" for not being a mother and her rightful place which she earned is taken away from her just because she chooses to not be a mother

Well done bro in law

Sasha 's new 2nd BEST friend

[quote]alexzverev123It was nice to meet everyone yesterday @theboodlestennis especially my new second best friend in the middle

Who is his first best friend?

R19 his dog Lovik, probably

Ohh I thought about someone else

Q[durinng press interview]. Marcelo Melo, the Brazilian player, after Germany went out of the World Cup, he talked to you.?

ALEXANDER ZVEREV: Yeah, he sent me a stupid minions video vine of Brazilian minions dancing in front of the German minions. I didn't talk to him three or four days (smiling).

Wherever Serena goes, there’s always a whiff of controversy. This one, though, reeks a bit—a few too many drops of Eau de TUE?

The Wimbledon organizers must have messed up and given Nadal Federer's draw by mistake.

well to be fair the article says Serena has already been tested 5 times this year, more than the others. I'd like to know how often Sharapova, Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have been tested. Halep too

The tests conducted or requested by USADA in 2018

Bellis 1

Brengle 2

Mike Bryan 2

Bob Bryan 4

Harrison 1

Isner 3

Johnson 1

Keys 1

Lepchenko 1

Mattek 2

McHale 1

Riske 1

Rogers 1

Sandgren 1

Dylan Scott 1 (who is he?=

Sock 2

Stephens 1

Coco 2

Serena 5

Venus 2

Young 2

Other American players 0

The count doesn't include tests requested by others (WADA)

They gave Nadal an easy draw because they know he is rubbish on grass. He needs all the help can get.

[quote]rubbish on grass

Two time Wimbledon Champion. Three time Runner-up.

Still rubbish.

Mirka, you might look for that Snickers bar behind the second RG trophy..... oh, I'm sorry, I meant the first RG trophy, I forgot, your husband never won a second, no?

Nadal's last Wimbledon title was in 2010 and he has failed to make it past 4th round for the last 6 years. So yes. He IS rubbish on grass.

he's really got the draw to make the QF. It would be embarrassing if he doesn't

He's so goofy adorable. Love him.

I love his first-round opponent, who's got the moves....

and the cutest puppy.

And they clearly like each other, see the kiss at the net at the end...

Serena Williams cancelled her press conference at Wimbledon this afternoon so that she could accompany Meghan Markle in watching Prince Harry play polo.

She’s always getting invited to the cool parties!

Mmmhm, she and Maria are such class acts.

hmm just found out Jack Sock is being coached by Mark Knowles.

I think Kyle Edmund is really cute. But he always has zero personality in interviews.

Rooting for Borna...

Murray has withdrawn, which may make ESL happy, but he's always been my favorite of the former Big Four.

Jason Jung is the lucky loser

that's a shame. I'm not a fan of his game or on-court antics but I like having all the contenders healthy and present at a slam

The lovebirds are ready

R17 the whole discussion about protected seeding of Serena is bullshit - Kim Clijsters went to have a baby, returned abd made her way to the top. I have impression it's because many people commenting on the issue have no idea about tennis but see her as an icon of black feminism that this is so widely discussed. Where were there we Azarenka had her son?

How often do these single tennis players have sex? I can't imagine young studs like Coric can manage to go celibate for more than a week. I doubt they use any hook up apps since they are public figures. Do they hook up with the wta players? Or do they just ask someone to bring hookers to their hotel rooms?

I'm behind Borna all the way!

So spoony I want to retch, R46.

R48. Groupies

KiKi is definitely the top in that relationship

R48, I meant to say that Groupies serves that purpose .

[quote] Do they hook up with the wta players?

no, because they are fat lazy lesbians

order of play out

Wimbledon has always been the one Slam that follows its own rules on seeding. If the committee chose to seed Serena, I don't see the big deal. They always take past history on grass into account. She's won Wimbledon 7 times and won in 2015 and 2016 before she was on maternity leave. It's a seeding at one tournament. It's not like the WTA raised her overall ranking to #25.

I don't have a problem with them seeding Serena either. But why the big deal about "pregnancy"? If she had missed the last year with a bad knee, how is that any different?

Perhaps - I'm not entirely clear on the issue - the question is whether all women should get a protected ranking when out for pregnancy. Again, fine. But protected ranking is used for entry into events, not for seeding. So if that's the actual issue, they're conflating two different situations.

Most of them have girlfriends, some of the gf's travel with them, some more intermittently.

Rafa prefers it if Xisca stays home...more time with the boys!

Too bad about Misery. I'd love to see Borna go deep.

So, who was filming?

R57, you could look at the pregnancy issue from a broader perspective: female tennis players are genetically gifted, they are the type of women who should be encouraged to have children.

Who cares if Serena was seeded or not? She's good enough she'll be able to blast her way through the tournament anyway. If anyone should be upset about her not being seeded, it's the cannon fodder who will have to play her sooner versus later.

And, R61, don't you think there would be a trainer hanging out in, you know, training?

Kim Clijsters is often discussed regarding Serena's seeding. Anybody know what's their ranking prior to their maternity leave?

Well, obviously it's one of his entourage, so no need for the sarcasm...but since he said treatment, I was curious which one would be filming him - possibly naked as some have assumed - watching the match, R63. It was pretty rhetorical as well since I doubt anyone here was in the room with them.

Kim Clijsters is not comparable because she retired in 2007 then got pregnant and gave birth in 2008 before returning in 2009. Serena won the 2017 AO while pregnant and returned 6 months after giving birth

What about me?

Anybody else pumped to see the Gorges/Puig! matchup tomorrow? Do we think Puig! is ready to back up her olympic gold medal by the finally advancing all the way to the quarter finals of a major?

r68 no one is excited about that except you.

r67 Vika, my dahling, US HC season can't come sooner for you. You are a non entity for the next two weeks.

One full year without the Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray in the same draw.

Remarkable.

Its on now

Gael Monfils vs. Richard Gasquet in the Wimbledon first round

Monfils has been eliminated from the last three Wimbledons by fellow Frenchmen, and all three times in five sets (Simon '15, Chardy '16, Mannarino '17)

66: Exactly, Clijsters retired, then got pregnant had her child and then decided to come back. She returned in very good form, got results soon and got seeded fast, in fact her best results on GS were after being a mother. Serena retired due to pregnancy, in my opinion she should have protected ranking like the players who got a serious injury. Nobody wants to see a Serena-Muguruza, or a Serena-Kvitova in first round

Federer wearing Djok's hand-me-downs.

And Sloane Stephens is out... bummer!

That’s why I can’t get behind Sloane. She disappears way, way too often. Good for Donna Vekic.

The transition from clay to grass is not easy, and Sloane's game doesn't fit grass. Losing a big final that you have in your pocket doesn't put you in the best mood for the next big challenge (and there are a good bunch of examples of Wimbledon early loses after a big dissapointment at Roland Garros). I read a good bunch of opinions yesterday and Sloane was in almost all bets for an early loss

Will Porna turn his match around? I can't lose Sloane and him so soon :(

As people said, it’s not comparable. Clijsters retired and led no one to believe she would ever be back. She said she was done with tennis. Having a child “changed” her mind. Serena played up until she could with full intentions on coming back after pregnancy.

What did you guys think of Roger and Uniqlo? Will you be buying those now?

No Uniqlo sports gear is low quality. Nike design is boring or ugly. I stick with Adidas.

Coric is gonna lose in 3 sets.

....

R82 Painful to watch. Too bad Borna couldn't follow up his huge win in Halle. So disappointing.

Shocked that Borna flopped right away.

I agree with Ms. Stubbs. You can't play a retrieving style of play on grass like Sloane does and Vekic is a decent grass court player.

Slloane was awful and should have played Eastbourne last week. She doesn't have the experience on grass to just come into Wimbledon cold (she did this last year for her injury comeback too and lost easily). If she chooses to play DC, that will be her last chance to gain a bit of ranking points. From Canada through the USO she'll be defending a ton.

Coric's loss was a surprise. Medvedev is a decent player but Coric was too passive. He showed some aggression during his win over Federer but not today.

Dear ESPN:

I'd rather you show the hot guys changing their shirts rather than breaking away to show a box of stats.

Venus avoids a third straight first round slam loss this year by taking out Larsson in 3.

Raonic straight sets new DL fave L Broady

fug newly married deplorable Querrey wins

Keys def. Tomljanovic. Keys is 1 player who doesn't need grass practice since her game is made for it

deplorable Isner wins as expected vs a no-name

Ka. Pliskova wins in 3 over an unknown Brit

DL fave Pouille wins in 4 over Kudla

Azarenka wins

clay demon Dulgheru shockingly beats the lesser Pliskova twin

Muller def. DL fave Mmoh in 5.

Wickmayer def. Barthel in a battle of formerly promising players

Giorgi upsets Sevastova in 3

Cirstea upsets last year's SF Rybarikova

Karlovic def. Youzhny in a battle of old men

Grandma is gonna pull it out !

useless rus

Did Wawrinka officially change his name to Stan?

Yeah he got rid of the islas at the end

Oh boy Grigor is gonna lose in 1st round. Will Dani leave him?

lmfao! The Stanimal has been struggling to win any matches lately. He just got destroyed last week by Murray who is trying to come back yet here he is up 2 sets to 1 on supposedly at his peak Grigor?

If Grigor loses this match, I fully expect him to fire Dani as I said in the Gays & Tennis thread. Clearly Dani's bussy is no good anymore

Got that monkey off my back, R73.

And Coric put his candidature to be the new Dimitrov like the new very talented young player who is going to waste his talents in small tournaments and going nowhere in the big ones. Medveded was a dangerous rival but not one to lose that way

glad for Monfils. He's a waste of talent but very fun to watch when he's playing well.

Grass will always be Wawrinka's worst surface because of his forehand grip. I'm surprised Dimitrov hasn't been able to attack that side more. For the last 3 sets Stan has been the more consistent player

omg time to fire Dani, Grigor. Dani will have to find another cock to hop on. I'm sure it won't be long as he moves quickly.

I'd like to see Grigor with Boris Becker. Grigor can volley

Ritchie was suppose to be a grass court player and Gael is weakest on grass. Ritchie was higher seeded and just won an ATP tournament couple of weeks back .Now he lost to Gael in straight sets on Grass? What it says about him? I think just like David Ferru he is Ovah and should retire gracefully.

Same with Tommy Roberedo

I think I ruined Grigor by making him the coverboy for this thread.

Stan has never beaten a top ten player on grass even when he was at his peak and kicking asses of Nadal, Nole , Misery and Roger. And now when he is returning from such a along injury and struggling with his with form and consistence. he manged to defeat young Grigor? What this says about Grigor and what this says about Dani's caliber?

R103, Grigor is pathetic for a top 10 player now. It wasn't that impressive.

It doesn't matter if he changes his coach unless someone will be able to put Rafa Nadal's brain in his head he will be the typical talented player who always underperform. He is not a winner is as simple as that, and unfortunately for him by the time the big four retires people like Zverev and Shapovalop will be on top, so i don't think he'll have his chance of winning a GS (the same for Nishikori, he had his chance and blow it up)

Other winners today include Anderson, Tsitsipas, Makarova, Petkovic and Mladenovic

Coco can't win fucking one match without struggling.

So how does it feel to lose to Vekic and Wawrinka the same day?

Nice to see Mackenzie McDonald win in four, too, though sad to see Coric and Mmoh out already.

R107 she has an ankle issue

Sloane and Grigor are both big divas and air heads. But Sloane overachieved while Grigor just flails around.

Murray who easily beat Stan last week withdrew from Wimbledon because he wasn't yet ready. But Stan, who was playing terribly, stays in the draw and smokes Grigor. It seems like Andy just chickened out fearing he'd lose first round.

Didn't Murray withdraw because of a specific injury, rather than just 'not ready'?

Coco is "extremely injured" and cunting all over Court 2.

R100, if Grigor is putting energy into topping Dani, that just may be the start of the problem, and not just because Dani is probably a needy bottom.

Grigor needs to be fucked if anyone needed it. A lot. Bottom for a while. Be vers. It would do wonders for his game. Well not if he bottoms too close to a match at Wimbledon (white is unforgiving if he's learning to be tidy). But if he would just stop trying to be hard to be straight / a top, he'd realize he could do anything once he gave up his ass.

CoCo is OUT! Sad! Who names their child COCO Vanderweigh?

Melania and I send our Warmest Condolences to Choco Van Der Weigh.

When someone drops off the tour, for any reason, their ranking drops. Whether injury, pregnancy, or rest. Why should pregnancy be different than any other reason. Seeding Serena 25 made sense because she is not the 200th best in the world and you don't want her meeting a top 16 seed in an early round- so it's practical. But I really don't see why pregnancy takes priority over any other reason. There is probably more choice with pregnancy than there is with injury- so fairness does not seem to be an issue.

Poor Grigor- he is such a nice guy too. Met him last year in a NYC Equinox- could not be nicer or more down to earth. He is not a champ though. He folds. I also think it's technical. He footwork is not at the top level. He take big strides all the time. He does not adjust with small steps and is off balance a lot. His serve is also loopy for some reason.

They found some corpses in the stands:

Bemelmanst wins in the end against Johnson

118: When someone drops on the rankings due to injury they have a protected ranking that can help the player enter in tournaments when he/she recovers. Generally that pr don't affect the real ranking (with the expection of Seles who was number one shared with Steffi when she returned). It's not the first time that an unseeded player is seeded at a GS. In fact Wimbledon used to mess with the seeds a lot. I remember Alex Corretja deciding not going to Wimbledon after being severely downgraded on Wimbledon seeds (of course he was terrible on grass so he had nothing to lose)

Carreno and Albot into 5th set

Sorry to say this because he seems a nice guy (and i'm spanish like him) but Carreño is one of the top players with less talent and less weapons in recent years. He is like the low cost version of David Ferrer, but at least Ferru had a nice forehand, fast feet and a great fighting spirit

Marja ousts Svitolina

Lorenzi and Dere both came to take the first round cheque. But since they were drawn one against the other, one had to pass a round

PCB is almost 27 and has been in the top ten but still hasn't won a grass court match in his whole career.

IIRC Schwartzman is another one who has never won a grass match

[quote]Who names their child COCO Vandeweghe?

It's a nickname...her real name is Colleen

It must be a popular nickname between tennis players. RG junior champion Cori Gauff likes to be name Coco too

Williams had her protected ranking, so she doesn't need to qualify for tournaments; it never means seeding ranking though, Andy Murray and Stan Wawrinka haven't come back as seeds.

Radwanska came very close to losing today. I think she might have saved a match point or 2. Ruse's grunt sounds like Halep's and she kind of looks like Cirstea.

So Maria's Mallorca title was not a fluke. Her win over Svitolina has to be a career best for her.

Cilic moves comfortably through.

I wonder if Kuznetsova will retire this year too. She lost first round to Strycova. Grass was never Sveta's best surface though

Goerges def. DL "fave" Puig

Safarova through

Johnson broke his racket after losing

on paper, tomorrow's matches for center court 1 don't look to be very competitive.

I'm interested in court 2 match Thiem vs. Baghdatis

court 3: Kerber vs. Zvonareva and Garcia vs. Bencic

court 18 Osaka vs. Niculescu...quite a contrast in styles

I'd say I'm most interested in court 11 Verdasco vs. Tiafoe.

[quote]I wonder if Kuznetsova will retire this year too.

I think she will drop out of the 100 after losing today?

R132 Radwanska saved 6 match points IIRC

Not enough, clearly

I'm growing very concerned about young Grigor. I think he needs a new coach. A ginger, grand slam winning, fit older player to serve as a father figure and mentor. I hope he's feeling like he needs to make all kinds of changes. Even personal ones. No ladies just concentrate on tennis.

r136 do you think he sacrificed any animals?

R137 thanks, but no thanks Jim

Why did the thread not get a proper introduction? I appreciate the OP taking the time to do but I love the startup grand slam intros with guest appearances by all the DL tennis characters. Where's Misey, Mirka, Brooklyn, Carlo, Frank, Pammie, Chrissie, Granny Venus, young Grigor, Thirty Jim Courier, Gramps, Sweet Ckaes and the rest of the rag tag cast of characters?

R119 when you met him:

A) did your gaydar ping at all? Do you think he could be at least curious?

B) do you think he's the same, better or worse looking in person as on tv and in pics?

C) was Dani (his coach but probably not for much longer) there with him?

[R141], I'm not R119 but i have met Grigor on a number of occasions, worked with him at a tournament, and I've said this before on here that while he doesn't outright ping, there is a very easy-going, comfortable in himself, comfortable being handsy with other players, up for anything kind of air about him. I liked him a lot. He was great to deal with when working with event sponsors - very articulate, very chatty and extremely likable. He is better looking in person than on TV, and Dani was not his coach in the years i dealt with him.

R142 thanks. So you think he's at least friendly/accepting of gays? He is Bulgarian but he seems to live a more western European way of life

His girlfriend is a pussycat doll, he cannot be homophobic.

R140, I appreciate the effort of those opening salvos from prior threads, but that ragtag cast has grown as old and tiresome as Gramps. We need some new blood, and by that I don't mean the same recycled pictures of Thiem's ass. There's a whole new cast of characters out there besides Mirka, Brooklyn, Jim C and the other old dogs and ponies. Maybe I'm just a grouch but that old shtick I just skip over.

People were asking for a thread and none was appearing, so I started it. Sorry. Whoever normally does it should start #2 when it comes.

I knew I couldn't do "justice" to the usual opener, so I didn't even try. I think I did tank Grigor by making him the coverboy, tho.

I thought it was fine, OP, other than the Grigor jinx.

next time put Roger or Rafa in the OP!

Nole please

Our Grigor looked so sad :(

Please, God, no. Nobody wants to see mean old goat Djokovic.

I still get a chuckle here and there from cock hungered Pammie, thirsty Jim C, studly Carlo and only on a witty occasion Mirka and Brooklyn. But we could use some new blood. When the old cast is used correctly it's still kinda fun.

Awe young Grigor looks so cute in that interview.

[quote] But we could use some new blood.

Who are good "new blood" characters?

I think after what he did to PCB nose couple of months back not many people have much sympathy with Grigor

The new blood younger players aren't as fun to mock and impersonate.

The best it got recently was when someone found the instagram of some mannish looking female fan with a huge chin who was attending some of the clay tournaments and pretended this girl was actually Viktoria Azarenka. And a bunch of people here actually believed this unfortunate looking girl was Azarenka.

Who is PCB, r155?

Pablo Carreno Busta

Any idea how many courts have hawkeye in Wimbledon this year?

Consecutive appearances at Grand Slams...

Feliciano Lopez - 66* 🙌 👏 Roger Federer - 65

Fernando Verdasco - 61*

Wayne Ferreira - 56

Stefan Edberg - 54

Easy win for sexy hairy beast Delpo.

Millionaire Tomic also won.

Today PCB finished his unfinished match from yesterday . Last night match was suspended when he was trailing 1/3 in fifth set.

Number of point he won today : ZERO

Someone asked if Grigor pinged- no. He was just unusually nice. Has a very relaxed and happy aura about him. Very cute- great body. Could he be gay? Sure. But I would say no. Jim Courier is definitely not gay. I’ve met him too- olaing early am up at Baker’s field (Columbia) indoor. He’s cordial and a bit cold. He turns it on a bit with his commentary persona. Jim is a smart and ambitious guy- kind of like the retired John Mac, only more conservative in manner. Both love everything about the game.

How long before Nadal drops out because of injury? I say one and a half more matches.

Agassi was being interviewed and he said that he would love to coach again.....a coach to players who are coachable.(his words). Meow!

To coach someone who is at the end of his career and with a lot of tittles under his belt must be difficult for sure. And of course there are players who are easier to work with than other (some young players act like spoiled divas from the beginning of their careers)

Garbiñe won (it took some time to break her rival in the second set but she did it at the right time). Sascha is winning. It would be a good sign of progress if he is able to win the first rounds without going to five sets like in RG

First win on grass for Lil Diego!

OMG Genie might win a match! I'm already penciling her into the Quarter Finals.

Somewhat of an upset - Tiafoe beat Verdasco.

Taylor Townhouse is eating Parmentier.

Lil' David Goffin is in trouble against Aussie Matt Ebden

Goffin looks like an elf.

Like he escaped from Narnia.

Tiafoe! Nice work topping Verdasco

What pussies! Thiem defaults. Petra K imploding.

Petra is going, going, gone.

Sorry ladies, I guess I wore him out.

From Gay and tennis 27 thread

[quote]I I think Petra Kvitova and Marin Cilic are going to be Wimbledon 2018 champions.

Who said that?

Marcos Baghdatis came to Wimbledon having lost to Nos. 234, 182, 118, 204, 315, 176 in consecutive matches.

Also, unless I've missed something, this is his first Top-10 win at Grand Slams in 11 (eleven) years -- since 2007 Wimbledon.

Douchard wins 4 consecutive matches for the first time in 28 months.

ATP Top 10 the last time Feliciano Lopez missed a grand slam (1/14/02)

1. Hewitt

2. Kuerten

3. Agassi

4. Kafelnikov

5. Ferrero

6. Rafter

7. Grosjean

8. Henman

9. Haas

10. Sampras

to be fair, Kvitova withdrew last week from Eastbourne with some injury...didn't see her match today but maybe she's still injured? She should have skipped last week after winning Birmingham

I thought Kvitova is one of the favorites?

On the men's side, I'm happy for Tiaofoe and Fritz. I have a hunch that Kyrgios might go all the way.

Eastbourne winner M. Zverev out! Straight setted by Herbert

Rosmalen, Halle and Eastbourne champions Gasquet, Coric and M.Zverev all lost Wumbledon 1R in straight sets.

Wow, at the retouching of that photo.

179: Everybody said that, Petra was the big favourite. She was in great form, she was having a very good year and she is a two time champion. But almost all recent grass winners implosioned in the first round

Petra is the new queen of the internationals but a bagel eater at the slams.

again, Kvitova withdrew last week in Eastbourne with some injury...it's probably that again

García on the verge of elimination. Well, Bencic in my opinion is a better player than García, and without all those injuries Belinda should be in the top 10

Diatchenko has Dementieva's serve, but unfortunately she doesn't have Elena's footwork. And speaking of serves, I don't remember Sharapova having such a high ball toss. It's even higher than Steffi Graf's toss.

Sharapova always had a high ball toss. It's 1 reason why she hates wind.

Djokovic gives his heart to Wimbledon crowds today

Boob toss alert!

Nole!

And Sock tanking on a match he was winning very clearly

wow I hadn't checked the score after he went up 2 sets. He's not even playing a good grass player. Sock's fitness (both mental and physical) is highly suspect

What do you think of Sock’s ass though?

CSN on verge of victory against a big hitting German

199: I think his ass is not going to save him unless he starts to play better

200: She was broke, never underestimate Charlotte's capacity to choke when the end of the match is near

There was a time when watching Maria play was so inspiring despite her irking shirking and grunting .These days it is just exhausting

Sock's opponent is a better eye candy

Carlo

Dear Diary,

Jack Sock is a whiny little bitch. So glad I dumped him.

6 match losing streak! (5 if you don't count his Eastbourne qualification match)

with the HD cameras you can really see all those damn flies that love grass. How disgusting. It gets worse as evening approaches of course

apparently someone yelled "Put a sock in it, Jack!" from the crowd lol

Why Socks was cunting towards umpire in fifth set?

R209 for real? lmao I hope there's a clip!

COLLAPSE ALERT!: Maria Sharapova

Maria to take a 9 hour toilet break now.

Help! Someone give her a shot of meldonium!

Did Ostapenko gain another few kilos?

She looks good in that dress tho.

Diatchenko has a great figure

Jack Sock’s opponent is kinda cute.

Diatchenko is really matching Maria in grunting volume.

I agree, r217. I used to think Sharapova had a great figure but now, next to Diatchenko, Maria's hips look so wide and frau-esque.

Yes, she's cute but too bad about the grunt :/

Sharapova looks like she's pushed out a few kids

Maria is hitting off her back foot a lot. Diatchenko must hit a very heavy ball.

Maria's not into man-woman sex tho.

Diatchenko's Instagram is pretty trashy

I want Diatchenko's lats.

Wow. On a double fault too.

And the crowd was rooting for the other girl, not Maria.

I don't see Sharapova winning another major. Still, given her limited movement, nonexistent net game, and now fragile serve, it really is amazing that she has a career slam under her belt.

Sharapova out. Now all I need is for someone to beat Nadal and I can enjoy this Wimbledon.

Jack Sock has been in a slump since he won in Paris last year. He cannot handle being highly ranked. Pressure is too much. I have also heard that he is a slacker- not much interested in training etc- like Tomic, like Kyrgios. All like to party. Dunno how accurate the information is.

Sock is beefy and out of shape for a tennis player. And like Coco every match has to be a major ordeal, full of whining, cursing and temper tantrums. Once he starts to train seriously and get over the victim complex he'll be a better player.

Problem for Sock is now everyone thinks he's beatable. The summer US hard court season will be very telling for him. Wonder how long Pat Cash will stick around Coco? She's done nada this year.

[quote]I have also heard that he is a slacker

Re: Sock, I have heard the same. Don't know that he's a "partner" per se, but not a very hard worker off court.

It's similar to Roddick, who always talked about how hard he worked off court, but...

PHH won, gurls. He's my new crush.

un bisou pour R234

Nishikori wins in 4 over the younger Harrison brother

Khachanov def. Ferrer in 4.

Shapovalov also in 4 over Chardy

tomorrow we have Azarenka vs. Pliskova

Federer takes on Eastbourne runner-up Lacko

Wozniacki vs. briefly top 10er Makarova

Radwanska vs. Safarova

Tsitsipas vs. Donaldson

R234 I hope you're a top because PHH screams total bottom.

what happened with benoit?

Paire won

apparently Paire had a tear in his meniscus so his leg/knee was all taped up

Paire is a misnomer.

r234, r238 does the woman sucking face with PHH in his IG fuck him with a strap-on?

The ESPN/ESPN+ online coverage for this is shite, replays disappear. How is it that Tennis Channel Plus coverage is so efficient while ESPN+ is pathetic??

Losing is one thing. Losing to someone whose waist size is half yours is another one. Who looks like the fat peasant girl of the match now, Maria?

After Wimbledon. Jack Sock will likely keep his place in Top-15 in the rankings with a 20-24 W-L record over the previous 52 weeks including 0-4 at Grand Slams.

21 (TWENTY ONE*) seeds out in the 1st round at Wimbledon

11 Men 10 Women

[quote]After Wimbledon. Jack Sock will likely keep his place in Top-15 in the rankings with a 20-24 W-L record over the previous 52 weeks including 0-4 at Grand Slams.

ESL, surely you must have forgotten that I only reached the top ten after 8 consecutive defeats? The more I lost, the higher was my rank!

Who stole Paire's ass?

PHH looking fine

Dubs

Delpo is so dreamy. Look at those hairy arms...

Pliskoboit has never gone beyond 2nd round in Wimbledon . Can she do it today ?

Hopefully not, i hate her screaming but i like Azarenka's game. Not that i dislike Pliskova (any of the twins) but she is totally a void of charisma on court (i had the same feeling with Davydenko, great player but i found him incredibly boring)

Pliskobot got it done.

I'd rather a player have no personality than Vika's personality. So congrats Pliskbot.

Why the hatred for Azarenka? Outside of the grunt/scream I've always thought she seemed like good fun and was popular among the other players.

I have a lot of respect for her fighting spirit and all the shit she went through to come back.

Can Makarova defeat Pusniacki?

Elbert still looks amazing.

Edberg ^

The noxious Fowler and McEnroe jacking each other off watching Fed destroy some also-ran. GAG

I have a new disdain for Pliskova ever since she purposely hit the umpire's chair with her racket while the umpire was still sitting in the chair because of a bad call. She should have gotten punished heavily for that.

She should have shoved a ball down his throat!

Jack Sock and Sloane Ste phens have entered the mixed doubles draw.

Azarenka suffers from the same - need to be loved syndrome - as Djokivic

It may not be the majority opinion, but I think Serena looks a lot better in these Wimbledon regulation whites than she did in the "catsuit" she wore at the French a month ago.

Also, playing better? Go go go

Jerry Nicholas is useless . To much hyped as big next gen . pass

Macdonald is nice and polite to his fans

Cute too.

Wozniaki about to fall

Woz making a comeback!

fucking chokorova

Makarova has a history of choking matches.

Makarova will just lose the next round like usual so......

Bye Pushniacki

As long as Serena doesn't win I'll be happy with the outcome of this tournament.

Love the confidence of a VPL

There are some very good matches going on outside courts [with very small stand] but they are fully packed . and very entertaining .I just saw last few games of BeEdene and Radu match on court 16 and whole stand was pack to fullest . And game from players was very good. Crowd was fully involved too .

And it was so satisfying to see Radu win, who probably is 5 feet at the most . It is better to watch these matches than Nadal/ Dela or Serena/Tomnkova match which are very high priced.

I think in first week people should take ground pass which is probably cheap and provides better entertainment . Any British gays here who had ever been to Wimbledon in past ? How did you plan?

I know there big names but most of the time the more expensive big courts have less entertaining and competitive matches. The outside courts are where you want to be in the first week, especially since they are cheaper.

Just now Donna Vekic lost her doubles 0/6.0/6. She is probably in hurry t watch her boyfriends singles match[She already won her singles match today though ] Poor girl is in for a massive disappointment as her bf is going to loose to some 133 ranked gay player

Fabbiano is gay?

Isner is raging against Hawkeye.

Has he threatened to have it deported?

Isner acting like a complete ass. I hope he goes down.

R284, it's no act.

I often complain on here about the cameras breaking away from the players changing shirts, but after the fourth set, Isner pleading his case about Hawkeye, he was shirtless and, might I add, looking fantastic. Terrific! I hadn't really been a fan of him in that department, but now I am.

Do you think it’s proportionate?

No-- his VPL is not impressive

Jan-Lennard Struff won two consecutive matches coming from twp set down . Just now he defeated big serving Ivo Karlovic 6/7[5/7],3/6,7/6[7/4],7/6[7/4],13/11

On Monday he defeated 32th seeded Leonardo Mayer 3/6,6/7[5/7].7/6[7/5].7/6[7/5],6/1

May God gives him strength

Rain.

Ekaterina Makarova is the giant-killer Her win over Wozniacki was her *12th* top 10 win at a slam. 2 slam SFs, 6 slam QFs and 14 R16s.

Only Venus, Serena and Sharapova have more slam top 10 wins.

Here are grand slams top 10 win by active players

Serena: 56

Venus: 37

Sharapova: 21

MAKAROVA: 12

Kuznetsova: 10

Jankovic: 9

Azarenka: 9

Halep: 8

Wozniacki: 7

Muguruza: 7

Kvitova: 6

Kerber: 6

Pliskova: 3

Stephens: 3

Svitolina: 0

Garcia: 0

I love that Christie says Madison "Tippy the Turtle" Keys is "playing better and better with each match".

She's played two matches, Chris.

R276 Ditto, but of course her part of the draw just keeps getting easier as the tournament progresses. Will she even face a seed before the final? Good god! Oh, that's right. Keys is her 4th round (can't roll my eyes obviously enough).

Bad day for servebots: Karlovic and Jarry lose. Isner and Anderson in trouble,

Is Guido Pella wearing dark underwear? I thought that was verboten

And if Serena reach the final rounds most top players will suffer panic attacks having to face her. Frankly, with some exceptions like Kerber and Muguruza that shown in the past that they can play against Serena on a big stage most of the top players will lose against Serena even if she is far from being at her peak.

And i love big servers (with nothing more in their games) are losing left and right

well, Serena will play Kiki M. next

So she'll be in fourth round for sure

Wozniacki left with a sharp comment about opponent Makarova, "I would be very surprised if you saw her go far." Makarova responded, "Maybe I was lucky today. Good for me.

Remember when Caro used to be sweet? When her nickname used to be "Sunshine"?

Heh.

Nice to see McDonald and Struff both pull it out in 5 today, and to see Monfils get to the 3rd round. Here's to his getting past godawful Querrey to make it into the Wimbledon round of 16 for the first time.

Wozniacki often is rude and dismissive of lower ranked players. When Bencic rose up the rankings a couple of years ago, Wozniacki couldn't stand the idea of losing to her. She was such a bitch during their matches. I do appreciate the Woz for being blunt about Sharapova's doping situation. I hope they play during the USO series at some point

I can't stand Makarova. She beats top seeds and rarely follows it up so though blunt, Wozniacki is right. Makarova also does stuff during matches to throw off competitors, like taking injury.

yeah I'm not a fan of Makarova either. She has a "skiddish" and streaky game with kooky strokes that aren't always consistent. Her serve is weak and she relies solely on placement for free points on it. I don't care that Woz is gone though. She got her lucky slam and needs to shut up. I doubt she'll win another

Wozniacki will have a few chances at the us open. She plays well there. Hard court is her best surface.

R303 I meant *faking injury.

[quote] Simona, best tennis playing gnome in history

No that is me!

Come on, Errani didn't even play in Simona's league Caroline is a bratty player. She got lucky with her GS, she should enjoy it because there's the only one she is going to win. The truth is the level of bitchiness on the wta is very high. I don't buy what atp tries to sell that they are very friends and all the crap, but they are very far from the levels of animosity of the wta. Of course it happens the same in U14, U16 and juniors. Les petits as finals between boys end in a nice handshake or even a hug, the girls finals always end in tears. Last years semifinal between Lopatcheskaya and Gauff was unbeliveable, with Gauff drama after losing and the ucranian crying after every point lost (even when she was winning, it's really amazing she was able to win after those displays of dramatism), on the positive note the handshake was nice, and Lopatcheskaya was nice with her oponent in the final after losing (but she needs to change her ways because she is going to be trashed on internet if she does the same once became pro, and even for her own health because those level of drama can't be good for her heart)

And to think Serena is now actually popular in the lockerroom and considered to be a nice, friendly lady.

[quote]And to think Serena is now actually popular in the lockerroom and considered to be a nice, friendly lady.

Yeah, imagine that.

Dear Diary,

Why is Caroline Wozniacki such a huge bitch? Is it because you could project a feature film on her huge forehead?

It's funny you say that, R276. Up to either 2 or 3 years ago I felt the very same way. Couldn't say why I didn't like Serena, I just didn't.

So cue Wimbledon, either 2 or 3 years ago, on this very 4th of July day and she was playing against a Brit and in very real danger of losing! I was surprised. The American in me said "oh, c'mon, you can't lose to a Brit! On the Fourth of July!!!!"

Sure enough, she started to make her way back and she did win the match. Don't remember how far she made it, but that was the day I became a Serena Williams fan. She's fabulous. Her baby is adorable and Go Serena!!

I'm sure the tennis nerds can tell me what year that was.

Serena and Venus were annoying bratty teens when they started playing, (but not even them were at Hingis' level) but Venus became a classy player with years and Serena has her moments but she is funny when she wants and now she is in legend status i think people end loving her (and missing her when she is not playing)

I've always been a fan of Venus, never will be a fan of obnoxious, classless, arrogant Serena.

Serena has grown on me, too. I root for her these days, which I didn't do a few years ago, even.

As of yet, great American hope Keys leaves me cold.

Do Thiem and Mladenovic have a rule stating only 1 of them can do well at any given tournament?

They were hard to love when they started to play (they are very good but their games are not exactly classic) but i ended liking them a lot, and Serena is very sassy and funny and very gay friendly even when she is a Jehova witness

R312, it was three years ago (2015) vs. Heather Watson. Serena won the title that yr vs Muguruza, and that was the year she got within two wins of the calendar year Grand Slam, before Roberta Vinci improbably beat her in the US Open SF.

Thank you, R318!!

😘

Can't believe Thiem and Grigor are both out. I love them both so much.

There are a lot of potentially good day 4 matches

R312 Odd that that match made you a Serena fan because it made me want to strangle her more than most of her many, many undeserved wins. Watson should have won that match, but Serena mishit the ball all over the place on some key points and it worked out for her...like it usually does. Sigh. Plus, she hindered Watson a couple times and wasn't called for it. Then she VERY OBVIOUSLY hindered Azarenka on a break point (while down a set and a break) in the quarterfinals and got away with it again - even after Azarenka objected. Such a shady bitch and cheat!

Fabbiano closes the match vs Wawrinka. 76 63 76

As expected Stan lost today. Cilic is getting some trouble. Nadal had an early lead but he was broke

Stupid Stan. Not ready to come back, blows out one match and should've fucking stayed home.

Cilic was tanking (two consecutive breaks on his serve) but he reacted fast

Put Fabbiano on the list of ATP players with the hottest butts.

And kukushin of course lose his serve when he was serving to hold in the first set. And once Nadal is ahead i doubt this guy has a chance to stop him. Mentally Nadal plays in other league, one could thing that after two years of slump players were able to overcome the intimidating factor but he seems to regain it in the last two years. On grass he is vulnerable but even with that most players don't have the mental strenght to even challenge him

Someone better check on Chrissie. DL fave Bouchard ousted by Barty.

And Cilic on the fith set showing why he has no more GS under his belt (he totally dominated the match but he doesn't seem in the mood to win today). Pella is not exactly a grass player

I always wondered what Doper Cilic owed his GS to.

Pella is handsome.

Is Pella Lil Diego’s bf?

[quote]Is Pella Lil Diego’s bf?

Pella's more into Domi ;)

Pella!!!!

Cilic is a joke. Federer is guaranteed to be in the final now.

Sooo disappointing that Cilic got knocked out. Federer really got an easy draw.

That 18 year old Aussie twink is also in 3rd round

The Aussie twink is going to be hot af in 2-3 years. I wonder if his coach Hewitt fucks him silly every day.

Aussie twink needs to go see a chiropractor and get his posture fixed.

Can this 126 ranked Chinese player take out World No 1 Simona Help?

One of these eight men will reach the Wimbledon semifinals:

Guido Pella Mackenzie McDonald Dennis Novak Milos Raonic

John Isner Radu Albot Stefanos Tsitsipas Thomas Fabbiano

The rain really saved Isner. He was on his way out yesterday. Hopefully he'll get trashed the next round

DL Fave CSN is through to the 3rd round

Carlo! (and friend)

Osaka, Anderson, Kyrgios, Kerber, Kasatkina, Gavrilova, Tsitsipas and Tiafoe all won

If we're talking about de Minaur as the Aussie twink, he's 19 and meets Nadal next.

I don't want to jinix Shaplova but he is only next gen player who is promising and can reach top and win grand-slams . I predicted this when he was playing his first round match against Di Silva during Rogers cup

Currently he is stream rolling Paire

Try Shapovalov, ESL, Shapo if you will.

Shirtless Shapo

Shapovalov and Pospisil

[quote] Shaplova

Tehe.

Oh and ESL, this is not where we talk about Rogers Cup.

Is he related to Martina Navratilova?

Cibulkova, unseeded she would've been seeded #32 had Serena not been given a seed, complained vociferously about it but got #22 Konta when she might have faced a higher seed. She's up a set and a break.

Now let's see if Konta and Brits complain about Konta facing Cibulkova in the third round....

^second round

Yes, you are correct. Thanks for the fix, r355.

Will 20-year old married Dad Taylor Fritz make it on court today?

Glad to hear Tsispas won over that annoying Donaldson. I like seeing JMG and his bf but his player is the epitome of “deplorable”

Lopez seems like he's giving up against Del Potro. I'm not sure when Lopez will retire, but when he does I will miss his net game and doubles play -- as well as that gorgeous face and beautiful body.

Lil' Diego and 'Shaplova' both lost...

Jo Kunta will drop out of the top 40 after her loss to formerly seeded Slovakian slag Cibulkova

Paire schooled Shopbottom.

Has anyone met Delpo in person? Is he genuinely nice? I heard his nice guy image is an act.

Juan's had his moments of assholery.

Taylor Townsend ate a bagel in her match

338: Unfortunately he is half spanish (he played for Spain till he was 14) and that means that he will tank against Nadal big time wich is a pity because young players generally are fearless against Nadal and Federer because they are not intimidated by years and years of defeats.

Cilic is pathetic, he was dominating very clearly the match but he is not a champion, he doesn't have the mentality needed to profit from good form. He was very lucky in the US Open he won that he had to face Nishikori in the final instead of someone stronger

And two fruit pies before it, R364.

[quote]Will 20-year old married Dad Taylor Fritz make it on court today?

he just made it on court...and is facing A. Zverev

[quote]338: Unfortunately he is half spanish

just put a R in front of the post number you want to reply to

R348: Sorry but he is far from being the only one of the next gen. There are a lot of promising players, some of them will end being journeymen, others will be the next Dimitrov-Berdich, and with a little luck some of them will dominate. I really like Shapovalov but for some reason he reminds me of Hewitt. Tsitsipas has very good results too but till now the only one new gen player that really showed that he is able to win big tournaments and be high in the ranking is Zverev

R368: Thank you very much

And Sascha lost his serve when he was serving to stay in the second set. At least Garbiñe was able to win the first one (with a lot of problems) but she started well the second

Garbiñe´s advantage didn't last. Unless she will be able to improve (a lot) i doubt she'll defend her tittle. The truth is Garbiñe's game is very bad from the beginning of the year. She gets motivated with the big tittles but you can't win unless you are playing well before, i know her grass season last year was not spectacular and she won wimbledon, but this year was even worse

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question (it probably is), but I don't really follow tennis anymore except at the Majors and I don't quite get why so many people have been so bullish about Sascha. To me, his game is fine but with no outstanding weapons that can really set him apart from the other top players of his generation. What am I missing here?

R373: If you only watch majors you never watched the best version of Zverev. The results are obvious, he won several Master 1000 and he is number 3, when the rest of the new gen (even the ones who are doing really well) are not even top 20. He was able to destroy Nadal in the second set of the final on Rome (and the rain really saved Nadal's ass that day). He can be very very good, but for some reason on GS you only get this cheap copy of himself. Grass is far from being his best surface anyway

Thanks, r374, but what would you say are Zverev's best assets? From the little I've watched of him, I would guess that his major strength is that he has no major weakness. Is that it?

Zverev is the best of those born after 1995 clearly. At majors, however, he gets nervous and will just start pushing the ball over the net. Also his volleying is atrocious. But he has a great serve and moves very well for some 6'6.

Taylor Fritz reminds me a little of DL fave Manolo Vergara.

Melo not in Sasha's box.

And Garbiñe tanking big time. Maybe this way she realize that you need to be in good form and show regularity to deliver when it matters

Pathetic tie break from Zverev (who probably be saved by the lack of light) and pathetic third set from Garbiñe

I am loving Taylor Fritz's moxie -- plus, he's very easy on the eyes. Someone please tell me he's not a Trumptard.

The Belgian ghostly lesbian ousts Mugu

Dear Diary,

Sasha is such a sad little boy.

Wow, Van Uytvanck hit a service winner to win the match against Muguruza, but the serve was called out (when it was in) so they had to replay it. Van Uytvanck didn't complain. She just promptly hit another service winner to close out the match a second time.

[quote] Dimitrov-Berdich

They married?

Shit. Who will beat Serena now?

Serena and Keys must be the favorites now.

But they could meet in the 4th round. :(

To be fair Van Uytvanck seemed on the verge of a good victory against a top player in recent tournaments. I hope Muguruza realize that being a diva and not working hard to get those results won't pay in the long run. She could be the dominant player but seems to enjoy too much being on the limelight to work hard to get it.

Zverev was saved by the bell. He seems unable to play well on decisive moments and unless he improve that he will be Slamless for a long long time

Nadal got two time faults and is bitching about clocks on court. No-one else has a problem.

When Serena wins, she'll be back in the Top 20.

Serena is not a contender right now. She is not in good form and she could lose against anybody. Of course being Serena she could end reaching the final rounds and then she will be very very dangerous

Nadal is going to have a big big problem once the tiem rule will be really implemented. He likes to complain but once there's a clear infringiment of the rule that everybody could see his complains will be ignored

R390: The atp is dominated right now for two oldies who are not even a shadow of what they were in the past, so the depth of the atp is not that different from the depth of the wta

Nadal also wants to raise the net by a foot and increase the number of clay tournaments by 50%. Nobody should listen to him.

He was there for most of set 1 and all of set 2, R378.

When almost 40 year olds dominate both genders you know the sport is in deep shit and its sad no one of great and consistent quality will step up and challenge.

lovebirds

Actually maybe just set 2.

[quote][R390]: The atp is dominated right now for two oldies who are not even a shadow of what they were in the past, so the depth of the atp is not that different from the depth of the wta

I never said it was.

I think I saw Kiki's brother in Paire's box today

Congrats to the dumbass that scheduled Muguruza, the defending champion, fifth on court 2. Mission accomplished. Fuckers! Did Katrina Adams have something to do with that to help Serena even more? This would NEVER EVER be done to her. Playing someone on grass with a big serve and unorthodox ground game is difficult enough when you can see the ball clearly. Introduce low light and it's a recipe for disaster. Wimbledon is such a lame tournament.

Of course Serena is given ideal scheduling tomorrow - 2nd on center (just as the 25th seed deserves). Again, fuckers! I hope she gets a thorough beatdown.

Thanks, r399. I noticed that guy and was wondering who he was.

If Serena wins this tournament I hope it's the bitches last Wimbledon.

r400 r402 don't hate celebrate!

R400 = Maria S.

R402 = Shino

R403 I'll save my celebrating for when she retires or gets a chronic shoulder issue so that she's unable to constantly serve her way out of trouble. I despise her. That will never change.

R404 I post on 402. Who the fuck is Shino?

R402 I hope it's her last anything. Haha! R404 Yeah. Who's Shino?

R406, Shino of the "I WILL SHOVE THESE FUCKIN' BALLS DOWN YOUR THROAT" fame

I want Serena to keep winning Majors so that she can beat Margaret Court's record of 24. Of course, Court's record is bullshit because people didn't care about the Aussie Open then but, still, anything to make that vile homophobe increasingly irrelevant is fine by me.

R409 Ok then she needs two more than she can go the fuck away to retirement.

Is Maria really using her free time to come to datalounge and get angry about Serena's greatness?

[quote] She gets motivated with the big tittles

Titties or titles?

[quote] Nadal is going to have a big big problem once the tiem rule

Thiem or time?

Yea, Benoit!

Yes, R411.

This is better picture of the lovebirds . Just look at Theim's face

I had no idea that AVU is a openly lesbian. Why she has not been covered more in the LGBT media?Just because she is not conventionally pretty?

Anyway here is article about her

celebration time of AVU with her girlfriend

another AVU

For [R362], yes he is a genuinely nice guy and very laid-back off court. I do remember though that one of his entourage, can't remember if it was his father or agent, was a complete asshole. This was about six years ago.

Yahoo US has an article about UWA winning, describing her as an out lesbian. Good for her.

UWA, R421? Really If you insist on doing the alphabet game, at least make an effort.

UWA = United Welders of America?

AVU is LGBTQ

r417, the reason Alison has not gotten major press is that a lesbian on the WTA Tour is not news. Martina, Amelie, and many others broke that ground. Alison has also only gotten past the third round in the French Open.

Let's hope she goes all the way.

I wish Zverev and Melo would just come out as a couple already.

Keys is tanking already. It seems there will be a total random winner this time unless something changes

Keys is at 8 straight games lost now. Only two to go, Maddy!

From 5-2 winning to 75 40 losing.

OK we've jinxed Madison. Streak ends at 9 games.

My bets are that she will lose her serve now

Keys will win. Rodina had 4 breaks points to go for 5/0 up but she was not able to do that . Now she has become tentative and Keys has become aggressive and took one break back.

Rodina is going to loose the match

I was wrong. Maybe she have a chance after all. This is the kind of match that if she ends winning can make her more confident

Talk about a seesaw match! How many more changes in momentum will we see in Keys v. Rodina?

Madison won the second. The third is a mystery, Madison should won easily because Rodina must be blaming herself for her faliure but it won't be the first time that the one who should won end tanking. Hopefully Madison will win because Wimbledon right now can't afford more favourites losing

Fritz looks horrible today. Did he not get any sleep last night. I hope he can pull it together in the 5th.

Zverev probably got a good rest last night instead of being up at midnight liking IG post of half naked Russian models like 2 days ago

Keys somehow managed to break herself to go down 4-5 in the 3rd set.

And Rodina serves for match (not that it matters that much given the big number of breaks). but it shows that Madison is not really on the verge of breaking as a big player. She had her oportunities in the past and tanked. Right now the wta is without a solid dominant player, but a player like Keys would never win a GS in the 90's where there were a bunch of mentally strong players. She has big weapons but she doesn't know how to use them properly

Shit. Hand the trophy to Serena right now. No one in her way. Lucky bitch.

She is not a lucky bitch, she is a champion who has no fault in being surrounded by peasants. Since Justine Henin retired she is simply unchallenged. Yes there are a bunch of player that can defeat Serena but they are not consistent enough and she knows it. I think there's the main reason she didn't retire, she knows that sooner or later she will win another GS because the rest are not as mentally strong as she is

Chrissie is really an idiot as a commentator.

r440, get a life

I’m enjoying Chanda Rubin’s commentary on the BBC. She was fun to listen to yesterday during the Van Uytvanck/Muguruza match.

[QUOTE] instead of being up at midnight liking IG post of half naked Russian models like 2 days ago

Tell me more R437

R442, yes, Evert is the worst! I've never heard her say anything insightful that I didn't already know. I'm not sure who would be a good replacement, though, because most of the old guard (Pam Shriver, Mary Carillo) are terrible as well.

R443 How does me not liking Serena mean that I have no life? Moron. Serena fans are so irrational.

At least Zverev was effective today

r447 "Get a life" doesn't LITERALLY mean you have no life. It means get over it. This tired bitching about Serena being a bitch is so ridiculous, every tennis thread we have to put up with it when it has nothing to do with anything. We get it. You hate her. Or you just like to bitch. And P.S. I'm not a Serena fan. Be careful who you call a moron.

What a dull cliche.

[quote]Be careful who you call a moron.

Especially when the term “idiot” would suffice.

Keys has so many weapons but doesn't seem to know how to pull her game together. Chris Evert talked about how, when Keys was at Evert's academy, they tried to teach her how to play aggressive yet smart tennis. Obviously that message didn't sink in. Is Keys uncoachable?

Becker is definitely in the running for worst commentator ever.

Does Martina Hingis do commentary for any network? I never liked her as a player but I would think she'd make an excellent commentator.

Martina was amazing as player, her game was fantastic, her bitchery was amazing too, she made the bratty Williams of the end of 90's look like well behaved school girls

I think i'm going to root for Pliskova, that half of the draw is like a black hole

After all the debate over what to seed Serena Williams at #Wimbledon...

...the draw has collapsed to w here she won't face any seed before the semifinals at the earliest.

Seeds dont matter in women's tennis anyway. She could lose to unseeded player just as well as someone seeded.

These are the only Sascha likes I saw. A pretty model/actress or so yes, but hardly half naked nor was it midnight. She seems to be dating a Russian football player...quite cute himself!

Actually maybe it was after midnight.

Camila Giorgi just won to get into the 2nd week--she gets my vote as the hottest woman on tour! She's stunning.....if she could breakthrough and be a top player the endorsements would be rolling in like Kournikova

Wow, I’ve always hated Marion Bartoli, but I’m absolutely loving that she’s coming for losers like Kyrgios and reading them for filth. MORE MARION MORE!

R461 What did she say?

Wow. Monfils beat Querrey. That’s an upset.

Marion also attacked Gael as an underachiever who wasted his life. But Gael just knocked out last year's semifinalist Querrey.

Venus in big trouble :(

Nice to see la Monf at 31 get through to his first Wimbledon fourth round (other than in the juniors), especially over Querrey.

Bartoli was talking to McEnroe and they both went off on Kyrgios and Monfils. She said Kyrgios was pathetic and will never win a major with his work ethic. I LOVE IT!

Nick responds to Mme. Bartoli

Thanks Gael for eliminating the deplorable Querry!

Gael and Nick are still in the draw while Marion's comeback collapsed into a pile of donuts.

Bartoli is a surprisingly great commentator and not just when she's reading people

[quote]I’ll give you a heads up, we don’t care what you have to say.

Umm, Nick, if you don't care what Bartoli has to say, why are you responding to her on Instagram?

Well until Nick stops being immature and also starts playing smarter tennis than he doesn't have much room to talk. Bartoli isnt wrong.

Nick is always looking to beef because he really wants to be in the NBA.

Bartoli was harsh but he's such a douchbag most of the time that he kind of deserves it.

Pretty much everything Bartoli said is true and everyone hates Kyrgios. Monfils will never win a major. Kyrgios probably won’t either.

I'd still rather watch Monfils any day than deadly dull prima donna Federer, Nadal with his shtick of tics, or obnoxious raging Jekyll-Hyde Djokovic.

I like Nick. He ruffles the feathers of all the pearl clutchers.

[quote] Let's hope she goes all the way.

Who says she hasn’t?

[quote] Chrissie is really an idiot as a commentator.

What did she say today?

Kiki's brother is HOT. He could be working for Bel Ami.

Luka Mladenovic

Nice comeback to take set 1 for Serena.

Domi's motives uncovered...

Serena pulling out a set never gets old(sarcasm).

Its shame that Both the Kikis have not able to step up at crucial point when it mattered most against Williams sister on center court and Court no 1

Do you think any of these kikis can win against Williams sister today

Is Thiem present at Mladnevic 's box

Nick Kryois response proved that Bartoli is right

Monfils also reacted to Bartoli's comments today after his win over Querrey:

"You know, it's easy to criticize people when you don't know them. So I won't even pay any attention about it."

Another arrogant response . Just keep showboating Gael

and no comment on JMac saying "thats very well said"?

R487, I don't think he is. Or at least I haven't seen him yet.

I think Bertens has a chance, r487, but, yeah, nerves seem to be a huge problem for her.

Good luck my love!❤️

I’m enjoying every second with you!

And good luck @dennisnovi for you 3rd round!

You're clearly still bitter about Gasquet's loss, ESL.

Domi is back in Austria to get his back checked/treated.

R487 Don't be ridiculous, Thiem has never been near a lady's box

Kiki Bertens won! Granny V. is out

Bertens somehow manged to serve more aces than Venus

It's 5.05pm local time on first Friday and world No.181 Serena Williams is the only former champion left in Wimbledon ladies' draw.

Centre Court schedule for Day 6 (Saturday) released by #Wimbledon:

De Minaur-Nadal

Kerber-Osaka

Edmund-Djokovic

women's seeds, an update at 5:10 pm on Day 5.

#1 Halep - Plays tomorrow

#2 Wozniacki - OUT

#3 Muguruza - OUT

#4 Stephens - OUT

#5 Svitolina - OUT

#6 Garcia - OUT

#7 Pliskova - Taking court now vs Buzarnescu

#8 Kvitova - OUT

#9 Venus - OUT

#10 Keys - OUT

What depth on the WTA, R501!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R502 = obviously Ben and Courtney

R485 Yeah, thanks to that nonexistent footwork and two mishits in a row that saved her ass. Just when you think that you can't hate her more.

I was kidding the other day, but motherfucker, I won't be the least bit surprised now if she gets to the final or even wins the tournament without facing a seed. Luckiest bitch ever!

Don't worry Halep is gonna win the whole thing. She is consistent, cute and humble.

Hopefully Delpo can save us from Federer winning another slam. I feel like he is our only hope.

Pliskbot is such a below average player when she's on the run.

I think Serena will retire after she wins her 25th GS , unequivocally surpassing Margaret Court.

'at least she's not a lezzie'

Bartoli is one to talk. She got lucky at Wimbledon 5 years ago when all the favorites flopped. She had nice groundstrokes and she and her father carefully studied Seles' angles strategy. It's hypocritical when she talks of someone else's work ethic though when she was fat for her entire career, only briefly losing the weight after she retired. She and her quack doctor daddy believed that being fat made her more powerful than if she were to be fit. That's BS. Technique matters. Look at little Cibulkova. She's no more than 5'2 and hits harder than half of the top 50 players who are taller than her.

Bartoli is right that Monfils and so far Kyrgios have wasted their talent though. Both should win multiple majors but lose focus and don't train the hardest off court. It just doesn't look right coming from Bartoli.

As for Nick, he is wildly immature but he's not evil. He's involved in charity. I enjoy his game and fun-loving demeanor.

R473: By the time Kyrgios decide to stop being an idiot it'll be too late. He seems destined to be the new Gulbis, a lot of talent wasted in the lack of work ethics. He will defeat top players but unless he really changes he'll never won a GS.

I don't get the Bartoli's hate, she was an amazing player to watch, always entertaining, always giving her all, and she generated amazing shots. And in this case she is totally right, Gael and Nick are wasting their talent. I think it's just too late for Gael, but Nick could change and become a champion (he is still very young). Maybe Bartoli was never the fittest player but she was a player that never gave up, sometimes Monfils and Kyrgios attitude on court is despicable, like they don't care at all if they won or not

I don't remember Bartoli being criticised for a lack of fitness when she was playing. She was always slightly larger than the average player but she was known for the amount of effort she put into her (unusual) training regime.

sometimes Bartoli would be exhausted during a long match, especially if it was a hot day. She also used to get leg injuries often which was no doubt related to carrying the extra weight

[quote] I don't remember Bartoli being criticised for a lack of fitness when she was playing.

She was here on DL.

I don't think her size had to do with lack of work ethic, it's likely she had issues with disordered eating already during her career, they just became more obvious when she had retired.

plenty of commentators criticized her excess weight.

Also Bartoli was no angel during her playing days. She had her share of feuds. From the French Tennis Federation to Tatiana Golovin to Jelena Jankovic to others...and Marion hated to be criticized herself. I forget who it was but she responded once to a commentator who said she needed to get fitter

Weight and eating are a part of fitness. For a pro athlete to be fat is not a good thing. Taylor Townsend is definitely holding herself back by not being fitter. Nalbandian and pre-thin Fish held themselves back too. With the amount of calories they burn from training and playing matches, I can't imagine what Marion must have eaten to stay so big on tour

Her post-career eating habits obviously have something wrong with them but it's entirely possible for high-level athletes to be a bit larger than normal. They don't necessarily have to be eating a lot, they just need to be eating the wrong stuff. Nalbandian is a good example in the post above. Serena has never been 'slim', even at her fittest.

There are many players out there who'd happily lose a limb to have had the career Bartoli had. She was a bit unconventional but she was also pretty successful against some of the strongest competition in the Open Era.

Monfils has suffered from many injuries, not unlike Del Potro. His training regimen is just fine, R509. He does occasionally go on court walkabouts, very different from the spoiled brat tanks of the Kyrgios/Tomic variety.

The problem with Monfils is not his shape, he always was very thin. It's his attitude, i remember an US Open semifinal where he was booed by the crowd because his attitude sucked big time. It's like he just doesn't care and he is not even smark enough to hide it

His fitness not his shape. Kyrgios has a very similar attitude sometimes

Must Gilbert keep comparing the Asian American player to nishikori?

Mackenzie McDonald is very cute.

Whatever...Monfils remains the most entertaining and charismatic player on the tour, and he rarely if ever has been the kind of arrogant brat that Zverev and Kyrgios have shown themselves to be.

Congrats to McDonald, great attitude on the court and cute to boot. He and Tiafoe are the sorts of Americans who can stem the deplorable tide.

Nice win for McDonald. He's not a big guy but he has a fun game.

I agree, R522.

R523: I don't think Zverev and Kyrgios are comparable.. Zverev can be cocky for sure and sometimes comes accross a little arrogant but he never screamed Khokinakis fucked your girlfriend in the middle of a match, or let himself go just to lose the match faster. Zverev remind me of the William sisters when they started to play, very happy to know themself and with a big ego, but that pass with time. Kyrgios on the other hand has a big attitude problem on court and out of court, wich is a pity because he is very talented and i don't think he is a bad guy either

R526, which Zverev?

A. Zverev

Agreed, R526, it's a matter of degree, Kyrgios way higher on the bratometer, but the younger Zverev has definitely had his moments of assholery.

B. Zverev

Thank you, R528.

Gulbis v. A. Zverev tomorrow should be a serious shitshow.

[quote]he never screamed Khokinakis fucked your girlfriend Speaking Kokkanis fucked your girlfriend

Speaking of which slutty Donna Vekic managed to reach her first grand slam fourth round

Zvereva is very bratty on court, but you can tell he wants to win badly and will do anything to win. NK, on the other hand, often acts like he doesn't care.

Melo/Kubot already out in Double. They will free fall in the ranking. Maybe also out of top 10

Kyrgios has said that he thinks entertaining people is more important than winning

R534: Exactly, Zverev can be bratty (he can be very charming in interviews too) but he knows what he wants and he wants to be a top player. He is number three and has a bunch of big titles for something. And with time maybe he even lose the bratty attitude on court (the cockiness on interviews will be history with a little time and more maturity) Gulbis or Kyrgios had everything to be top players, but they just don't care to make the effort. They earn enough money to have a good life and that's all. Given that they are talented from time to time they score a big win but never materialize all their potential.

Round three and the women's tournament is in shambles.

And yet the younger Zverev has only made it to one GS fourth round and one GS quarter, which puts him well below any of the greats and their GS records by his age. Seems like it will still be a while until we see the next great tennis champion on the horizon.

R533 And she's going to make her first semifinal too, because the raging cunt is back and will get the easiest draw in modern era slam history. Just pencil the pathetic Carla Suarez Navarro into the final now!

Yes, but at his age Roger Federer didn't won a GS yet while Llyton Hewitt (of the same age) was doing way better, and look now who had the better career. The truth is Zverev is tanking at GS, but it's the only thing he is failing, he has three Master 1000 wich is way more than the usual 21 yo had. Anyway, if people expect someone like Federer/Nadal/Djokovic to appear i think they'll be highly dissapointed. People with more than 10 Gs are a rarity, and those three have a very long career as top players. We have plenty of examples of top players who were dominant for a while to just dissapear from being contenders (Jim Courier) to number ones unable to win a GS (Marcelo Ríos), to a whole bunch of number ones unable to dominate the circuit even for a while Safin/Ferrero/Ríos. I think people don't get enough credit to Djokovic, the guy had the bad luck of competing against two of the best ever, and he was able to rise himself from top player to dominant player

Even late GS bloomer Federer had four 4th rounds and two quarters under his belt at the same age. Prediction is that A. Zverev will do about as well as Kafelnikov, who was at roughly the same level of achievement at Zverev's age.

I'm really interested in Khachanov vs. Tiafoe tomorrow. A 3rd round battle of promising young guns.

Same here--Tiafoe v. Khachanov, Nishikori v. Kyrgios, and Osaka v. Kerber look to be the most interesting of tomorrow's matches.

I'd love to see Osaka make a major breakthrough. Dont if she'll be able to keep it together.

R542 You're overlooking the fact that Zverev is a taller, more powerful player with a variety of weapons Kafelnikov never possessed. Once Fed, Nadal, and Djokovic are gone he'll have plenty of opportunities to win slams. Good timing for his career.

R545 Kerber is probably the most difficult opponent from the top half that she could be facing, so good luck to her. Will defense or offense win the day?

R547 Smart offense, which is difficult against Kerber cause at her best she is like a wall.

[quote] Smart offense, which is difficult against Kerber cause at her best she is like a wall.

Just like me.

If a wall were soft and cuddly.

R548 I wouldn't use smart to describe Osaka's game, so I'm gonna go with relentless defense.

Wouldn't it be spectacular sweet, sweet justice if Cibulkova got to the final and gave Serena a much deserved drubbing? Too bad that will never happen. Sigh.

R546, I was comparing likely impact, not arsenals. Maybe Zverev will pull it together and get his petulant head out of his ass. We'll see. Nadal and Djokovic will probably be around for another 3 or 4 years, and there are already players younger than Zverev breathing down his neck: Tsitsipas, Rublev, Tiafoe, Shapovalov, de Minaur, Mmoh, Moutet. And Auger-Aliassime seems to have what it takes to overtake and surpass him.

How much longer does Federer most likely have? 3 years?

R552 Yes, that's why all of those you named are close to the top of tennis like Zverev. He's No.3 in the world! Only Shapovalov is in the top 30.

That arsenal is why he's having and will continue to have an impact. And I think any petulance stems from personal expectation (like Fed early on) rather than general dickishness (like Kyrgios/Tomic).

Apples and oranges, you're ignoring my point, R554. Zverev wasn't even in the top 50 when he was some of these players' ages. The point is that they're geared to overtake him as they continue to develop, and some of them are higher ranked than he was at their age.

I have to differ with you on the dickishness opinion, unless you think calling an umpire "a fucking moron" and yelling out "this is my fucking court" after winning a match make him Mr. Congeniality.

Crush material...

Watching Zverev-Fritz today, you can see that currently Fritz is a lesser version of Zverev. They both have great backhands and first serves. Both of their forehands can go off. Zverev is fitter (you can see that just by looking at them) and moves better. Fritz is going to have to get fitter and improve his volleys but he looked good in parts of their match.

[quote] Shapovalov

He reminds me of someone famous. Does he look like someone famous to you?

The fourth Hanson brother??

Shapavalov is the love child of Martina and Rene Richards

This is Shopbottom:

A Serena-Cibulkova final would be a blast! Both women would have something to prove. I think Serena would love that challenge.

Shopbottom is the feminine version of Makarova.

Makarova is the more masculine version of Steffi Graf.

None of these WTA girls give good bitch anymore. I miss mean girl pals Hinigis and Capriati willing to throw some cunt at Serena.

R560, who would do the breastfeeding?

Hi, R565.

Dennis Novak, Raonic's opponent, is super pretty.

He's currently a setup before they called the game for darkness and will continue Saturday morning

Alison VU is about to play. Sending positive thoughts....

R552: Sorry but no. None of the youngsters have a career like Zverev right now, not even close. He had a better career than Shapovalov or Tsitsipas at their ages (not that it matters, Djokovic started to show his true potential at 24) and he has a better career (by far) than nobody of his age or even slightly older. He has two victories against Federer, one of them on grass, he was able to destroy Nadal in the second set on Rome (and Rafa was lucky with the rain). That means he will become a multiSlam winner? of course not. But right now he is doing well better than any of the rest and he is competitive against anyone. The only thing lacking is his results at GS. Let's be honest, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray won't be a factor much longer. Nadal won't reach Federer's age being a top player (his body and game style won't let him, and in fact he is doing way better than expected). Of course Zverev has a few contenders about his age, but we don't know right who of the bunch will be a Slam winner and who will ocupy the place of Berdych or Dimitrov, or even we could end in an era with multiple GS winners

R555: Zverev was top 20 with 19 yo, Tsitsipas is 35 and he is on the verge of 30, Shapovalov is 25 at 19. All of them are doing well but Zverev has big titles under his belt. Ayway, not everybody develops at the same age. Federer had big results very young but in terms of high ranking and big titles he was not that precocious. Nadal won GS young because he was very dominant on clay since the beginning of his career. And the comparision between Hewitt and Federer is very pertinent, both the same age, Lleyton way more precocious, Federer with a way better career

Tsitsipas is on the verge of 20 not 30

If Fed does not go one more round- what a game. The way he moves- every shot and then some from all court positions. I will miss him. Greatest star the game ever produced and I started following tennis in the 1960s.

It's really difficult to believe that Federer and Hewitt are about the same age. They really seem like they're from two different tennis eras.

Isn’t Rusty still playing?

What is the story of Paire? He's awful beard covering up his beautiful face, He just went off on a tirade after losing the 2nd set.

He is mad

Paire has some anger issues. Good for AVU. Her results showed that she was on the verge of getting far on the draws but she kept being defeated by higher ranking players on tight matches. Defeating Muguruza gave her some needed confidence (Her victory against Kontaveitt was clear)

That was no let in DelPos serve Paire was just trying to throw Delpo off.

This guy I do not like. The beard is disgusting

So full of shit

Federer is not the greatest player in history.

R581: Oh Susan, you never won anything outside Europe

R570/R571, that's my point. Zverev so far has not performed even remotely close to what the #3 ranked player should be accomplishing in the majors. One quarter and one 4th round? Either he still lacks the wherewithal mentally to break through at the GS level, or he's been beset by a lot of bad luck. I believe that it's the former. And he's still a dick. And when did I say that any of his younger challengers has exceeded where Zverev is now?

This Hsieh chick is surprisingly tricky. Impressive end to set 2.

De Miñaur is simply too green to even be a slight challenge

R583 " and there are already players younger than Zverev breathing down his neck: Tsitsipas, Rublev, Tiafoe, Shapovalov, de Minaur, Mmoh, Moutet. And Auger-Aliassime seems to have what it takes to overtake and surpass him. " Wich is simply not true, none of them have the results Zverev has wich of course doesn't mean they won't in a near future.

And Auger-Alliassime (like Nicola Kuhn) seem amazing prospects, but they are not even on the pro tour so we don't know if they will translate that talent (there are plenty of examples of amazing juniors that never achieve their potential).

And yes, Zverev is cocky and bratty, and he has a big ego, but i'm not even sure if he is the most bratty of the bunch of next gen players. It's not unusual that kind of behaviour at a young age (a lot of juniors are very aggressive on their behaviour on court even when they are friendly outside court), Federer himself was not exactly the classy player he become after a couple of years when he started to play pro tour

[quote]Federer himself was not exactly the classy player he become after a couple of years...

Ummm, when exactly did Federer become a classy player?

And the reason why Zverev is an underachiever on GS is a combination of factors, too pressure, not dealing well with decisive moments, some bad luck (some of his defeats were in tight matches) and specially not being focused on early rounds and losing too much energy in the first rounds matches. I remember Thomas Muster who was an incredible clay courter tanking on Roland Garros year after year just because first rounds matches complicated a lot and he went to the final rounds exhausted (and he suffered a couple of bad early loses too).

Anyway, reaching the last rounds is good but not an indication of when you are going to get your first GS. Ferrero did very well at Roland Garros since the beginning of his career but getting the title was an uphill battle. And Robredo was reaching Qtr as a teenager but never went further than that

R587: Federer has a very (very very very) clean image and his behaviour on court is (usually) very good. Of course Federer and Nadal seem the kind of people who can throw shade and had their angry moment without people bashing them (or even justify them) And Federer is the kind of guy who doesn't seem to have an opinion on anything (wich serves him well, because having an opinion can make you lose sponsors)

You infer something other than what I implied by "breathing down his neck", R586. I meant that they're looking at him as the player to beat among their generation. I'm not disputing whether they've reached his level. Obviously they haven't, as the rankings and ATP results substantiate. But the anomaly and exception is the majors. That's been Zverev's Achilles heel, along with his temper and arrogance.

Tsipitas to me could end up being the best not that I’ve seen a lot of him. His mentality seems much more relaxed and sure of himself (in a more humble way) whereas Alex and Denis, etc have all the pressure, flash, attention and they seem to feel uncomfortable with it (all while trying to cover it up with a slight arrogance).

I took Chris McEndry’s advice and watched one of Stefanos’ travel vlogs. He’s very down to earth - maybe a bit nerdy and a loner - but very mature seeming as well.

Also Simona trying to bring back the pleated skirt is a no

Halep really needs to come into the net on some of her shots.

CSN is a one tricky opponent . She just refuses to go. Even on grass. BB had match in her pocket but CSN some how managed to sneak back

She always does this

💀 💀💀 at Halep's grunt

Hasta luego Halep *waves goodbye*

I love Su-Wei style

Halep is now gone. The path keeps getting clearer and clearer for Serena to take it all!

Pliskova is the only one of the top 10 women's seeds to survive the first week of Wimbledon. What amazing depth on the WTA!

Simona Help collapse is complete

Or what amazing chokers.

Do these stupid stupid women know how to do anything but play safe or blast the ball? Halep drop shot the bitch, lob over her No variety at all and it's not the women's fault. This is how they are taught from the start and I blame Chrissie Slut Evert for her boring, one dimensional baseline game. Everyone copied that stupid 2 handed backhand. Why didn't anyone emulate Steffi or Martina?

New thread:

After top seeded Help lost another WTA seed is out of Wimbledon. It our very own 26 seeded CSN who lost against BB. BB is unseeded here surprisingly .

Another seed 15 th seeded Elise MErten is also in great danger as she is trailing heavily against unseeded Dominka Cibulkova

Mertens lost to Cibulkova

Another seed is in danger, . Daira Gavrilova[25 seeded] is trailing a set and break against unseeded Sasnovich [who defeated Petra in first round].

It is blood bath for women seed.

Lets hope at least Kerber survives today . She has a very dangerous opponent today who can be even more dangerous on fast courts