Spy Series 'Killing Eve' on BBC America
[quote]Starring [bold]Sandra Oh[/bold] and [bold]Jodie Comer[/bold], as a bored MI5 security agent and an international hitwoman, who enter into a rousing game of cat and mouse after the latter gets a little too cocky with showing off her particular set of skills. Also featuring DL fave [bold]Fiona Shaw[/bold].
[quote]Adapted from the [italic]Villanelle[/italic] novellas by Luke Jennings, [italic]Killing Eve[/italic] is mostly written and executive produced by [bold]Phoebe Waller-Bridge[/bold], who, in addition to acting in films like [italic]Albert Nobbs, The Iron Lady, Goodbye Christopher Robin,[/italic] and the upcoming [italic]Solo: A Star Wars Story,[/italic] has also created, written, and starred in her own television series [italic]Crashing[/italic] and the acclaimed [italic]Fleabag[/italic] on Amazon.
Been hearing raves about this everywhere. Renewed for the second season even before the first episode had aired.
Premieres Sunday, April 8, at 8pm on BBC America.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Thursday at 10:01 AM|
This cute twink will be appearing in seven out of eight episodes, if you're into that. Just sayin'.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/06/2018|
Oh, god, I irrationally HATE Jodie Comer's face.
Come to think of it, she looks like Ivanka.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/06/2018|
r4 Yeah, I know [italic]exactly[/italic] what you mean. We'll see if it looks more bearable in motion and what her acting's like.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/07/2018|
First ep is free on BBC America. Pretty good! Glad to see Sandra Oh back.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/07/2018|
r6 Thanks for the heads up! I'm going to watch it right now.
I see Tom&Lorenzo are loving it as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/08/2018|
And here's a nice interview about it with the showrunner in Variety.
[quote]“There was a meeting at one point where someone actually said, ‘We can’t have too many women,’ meaning it will look unbelievable,” says Waller-Bridge. “I was like, ‘What the f— are you talking about?’ Not if it’s written well and shot well.”
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/08/2018|
Is this lesbian-interest? I will watch if the Sapphic fanservice is good enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/08/2018|
After watching the first episode, it's not overtly sapphic, R9, but it does have some undertones.
I think the leads have good chemistry though, even from their first small interaction.
So far though, it's a fun, dark, engaging series with women at the helm of writing and production.
And you're welcome, OP!
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/08/2018|
Loved the first episode! The acting is on point across the board but damn, that dialogue is something else. The immediate and effortless way in which Waller-Bridge establishes her characters is just brilliant. I really hope she makes it big in Hollywood one day, in whatever capacity.
And I completely understand now why Comer was cast in the role as she looks like a sociopathic shark! This is no Jennifer Lawrence beauty queen bullshit; I was legitimately terrified of her the entire time. Though they haven't really explained why Sandra Oh's character - an American - would work at MI5. I feel like a foreign(-born) person working at one of the national intelligence agencies in such high a position is definitely something that wouldn't happen in real life.
I believe this is going to compete with the premiere of 'Howards End' tonight so we'll see how it does, ratings-wise.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/08/2018|
Sandra Oh was on This Morning today.
[quote][bold]On first reading the script and assuming that she was not the lead[/bold]
[quote]Yes. As an actress of color, right, you — just to see how deep the belief system had run into me, myself, that I would see a script and immediately not assume that I am the primary storyteller. And, you know, they basically woke me up from that. And it was really sad. It was very, very sad, and then also happy in that moment, because it was sad to see how deep the internalization went for me, and it was really exhilarating to know that that belief system is no longer true.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/09/2018|
[bold]Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Vicky Jones Comedy ‘Run’ Gets Pilot Order at HBO[/bold]
[quote]The project is described as a romantic-comedic-thriller about ex-lovers who made a pact 15 years ago that if they ever needed to escape life, they could send each other a simple text message – “RUN” – and impulsively disappear together.
[quote]Vicky Jones [Fleabag producer] wrote the script and will serve as executive producer via DryWrite. Waller-Bridge will also executive produce in addition to playing the recurring role of Flick.
You go [italic]get[/italic] that HBO money, gurl!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/13/2018|
You bitches are really missing out. Villanelle would be the best resident DL assassin.
BBC America - Sundays at 8 pm
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/15/2018|
I like this show, but Sandra Oh's over reacting, screaming and carrying on in the during that one scene in the first episode was hideous. It ruined the episode for me. That was some truly shitty acting
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/15/2018|
Second episode slowed down a bit but they're setting the pieces so it's fine. The pacing could be better, though the ending was electrifying.
Do we like the twink at r1 or what? I do love me some meaty calves and this boy delivers. His accent is truly bizarre to me at times, however. Speaking of accents, I'm glad they explained Eve's Connecticut past. I noticed last week that it wasn't just me bothered by that; people on different podcasts who have recommended this show have also brought it up as a plot hole.
And farewell to Charlie Hamblett. Did you know he used to fuck Daisy Ridley?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/16/2018|
Just started watching episode 2. Dear lord, they are writing Sandra Oh's character as "goofy". Sort of like the stupid characters from Grey's Anatomy. The part where she was stuttering, nervous and rambling on was embarassing
I want to like this show, but Grey's Anatomy type characters only appeal to the lowest common denominator type folks. I thought this was going to be a smart show. Instead one of the lead character's is silly
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/16/2018|
I don't like Sandra oh at all. I do like spy genre so I will check it out
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/16/2018|
I think Oh's character is wonderfully written and her (comedic) acting is genius-level so that's why it might fly over some people's heads. As a goofball myself, I like seeing goofy people being represented on screen.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/17/2018|
Villanelle is a sick, sick freak and, mark my words, she will become a gay icon. By Halloween, half of us will be dressing up like her. The Baby Jane crowd really ought to tune in.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/17/2018|
R16 Yeah he banged her as much as I did
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/17/2018|
Not even Phoebe Waller-Bridge can escape the trope that is "kill your gays". Because there's no way he survived those stabbings, right? I do appreciate this lavender marriage being portrayed on our TV, without any kind of shame or remorse. Hey, he's old school so don't judge (too much). Although killing him right after that revelation is still bad optics.
r21 I don't know, he comes across as straight to me. And before she landed the SW gig, I'd even say he was slumming it up with her.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/24/2018|
Love Sandra Oh.
But will say this seems similar to Mary Kills People, featuring another favorite of mine, Caroline Dhavernas. Not the actual story but more in the way it's being presented.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/24/2018|
r2, you must be fairly new- Fiona Shaw's acting was a huge point of discussion during the, "True Blood" years and it became DL meme afterwards.
I'm enjoying the series for what it is, mindless fluff, but Sandra's face is too Silly Putty for me. Jodie is having fun with La Villanelle.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/29/2018|
I am watching this coz i love spy shit. But I don't really like sandra oh. I do not want to see love/sex scenes with her in it!!!! Please! no!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/29/2018|
Is it any better than Spooks? I watched that for a few seasons until it started circling the drain.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/29/2018|
[quote]Is it any better than Spooks? I watched that for a few seasons until it started circling the drain.
Yeah, that got really stupid at the end. Plus, they did a spin-off series and a movie of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/29/2018|
Although I see it listed as a thriller and drama (yay), some of you described it as something akin to a dramedy (nay).
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/29/2018|
It's a dramedy in the sense that it has funny lines in it.
Diego (played by Edward Akrout) was sexy in this episode.
r25 I thought her acting on True Blood was phenomenal and far above everyone else's. Her transition from a life-long loser and a joke to an empowered woman was the best thing on that whole show and she sold it completely. She's doing great work in this show as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/30/2018|
Jodie Comer's actual accent. Remarkable.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/30/2018|
Wow. Like Tatiana Maslany with the accents.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/30/2018|
People on Twitter with advanced previews are teasing a killer episode tonight so I'm excited.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/06/2018|
I am absolutely loving it so far. I’d actually call it delicious, and I rarely use the D word.
Sean Delaney is an adorable twink.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/06/2018|
[quote]Sean Delaney is an adorable twink.
He most certainly is! His speech patterns remain a mystery, however. Sounds like a kid whose voice dropped a week ago at times. Like he isn't fully in control of it yet. Very peculiar.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/06/2018|
[quote]Come to think of it, she looks like Ivanka.
I just watched the first two episodes yesterday, and that was the first thing I said.
The "bye-bye" with the perfume lady and the princess dress were hilarious touches played very well .
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/06/2018|
So I was eating asparagus with prosciutto while watching last night's episode and a bit of stringy fat got lodged in my throat at the exact moment Villanelle fished that ungodly hairball out of the drain. I nearly vomited on my parrot!
Russian prisons are extra dour and bleak, aren't they?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/14/2018|
I am enjoying this series, too bad its so few episodes!
What other shows are you guys watching? I love spy shit!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/14/2018|
r39 'Counterpart' is another proper spy series that the critics quite liked (100% on RottenTomatoes). It premiered this year but that DL thread went nowhere fast. It's so tasteful and nice to look at, but the glacial pace was killing me so I dropped it eventually as well.
Though it's only ten episode and I still maintain it's a must-see for all fans of spy shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/14/2018|
Villanelle is really entertaining, Comer is definitely the standout on the show. I’m always a little disappointed when it’s time for Sandra Oh scenes, but I guess they need to balance crazy Villanelle with a “straight” character.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/14/2018|
*, and Comer is definitely
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/14/2018|
I can tell that Phoebe Waller-Bridge is involved. All the little quirky things that go on definitely come out of her brain.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/14/2018|
r43 Exactly. Like the slightly surreal thing she does in the gif at r38. Where the hell else would you see that on TV if not in a PWB show?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/14/2018|
I almost expect Fleabag to come walking into the shot and make some quirky aside. Maybe about Villanelle's lesbian tendencies?
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/14/2018|
I can confirm Comer is def has lesbians swooning everywhere. I love the show love spy shit, female assasins be still my beating heart, but Sandra Oh is so damn unpleasant to look at. If the character of Eve was casted to a more beautiful and talented actress my god this show would be incredible. Even as is I still find this to be the best new show I’ve seen in awhile.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/14/2018|
This show would be event television on DL if both of the leads were men. A detective falling for the criminal he's pursuing? Sign me up! Mind you, I still love that lesbians have this fun show and I'm not at all bitter or anything.
I loved the actress on the right; she was so sweet and friendly.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/14/2018|
What is it with Sandra Oh always playing with her hair? Was that in the book? Will Villanelle eventually chop off all of Eve's hair?
And I don't believe for one second that the homely boss has had as much sex as she says. She looks like the stereotypical "no sex, we're British" type. But I do think Fiona Shaw is great in the role. She's very good at the cat and mouse game.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/14/2018|
I love this show. Jodie is a revelation.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/14/2018|
I do not like Sandra oh but I love spy shit so I’m watching. I dvr the show and fast forward any love scenes she has with her husband
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/14/2018|
It's funny how I didn't like Fleabag after 2 episodes, but I'm loving this (with the exception of Sandra's Noh's eyebrows and weird puffy lips). Good trashy fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/15/2018|
I would be happy to see Oxana taken down a peg or 50.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/15/2018|
You're in luck; I feel like that prison stay and the whole betrayal thing are going to get to her, hard.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/15/2018|
The show is entertaining and Sandra Oh character's husband is fine and the hairy "spanish" twink is to die for.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/18/2018|
r56 Okay, who's the "Spanish" twink? I must have been distracted by something (again) while that bit was revealed. I try to showcase all of the boys in this thread so you can just point him out here. You can also slap me viciously if I somehow failed to include him.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/18/2018|
It’s been renewed for 2nd season
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/18/2018|
r58 Yes, it's in the opening post. They had renewed it before the first episode aired. I guess they realized from all the reviews it would do well enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/18/2018|
So I guess Eve doesn't get killed in Season 1?
Or maybe Eve does get killed and next Season will be a new agent? Killing Beryl.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/18/2018|
Caught up on the first five episodes over the weekend; looking forward to the rest of season one. All of the female leads are very good. I never watched Sandra Oh in that Doctor show, so maybe her obvious quirks don't annoy me as much. But yes, Fiona is owning every scene she's in.
Glad to hear it has been renewed. I hope they keep up the production values - filming on location in various cities in Europe and realistic outdoor locations all the time, as opposed to a few sets and generic streets like so many tv series.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/21/2018|
I'm glad Villanelle dispensed with Anton so quickly; he was annoying me to no end. I got an Andrew Scott in Sherlock cringe vibe from Andrew Byron's acting and that's never good. Although, that's two homos down now. When does it end?!
Did you notice the teacher's hair was pretty much identical to Eve's when she lets it down?
r61 I'm loving the locations as well. The past two episodes actually look like they take place in Russia.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/21/2018|
I agree r47. I am enjoying this even though there is no good male eye candy. Jodie Comer pulls you in as Villanelle, excellent portrayal.
I'm interested in seeing how the writers handle the relationship between Sandra Oh's character and Jodie's. I knew two different women in college who were straight but ended up falling in love with one of their female professors. What was interesting was that as they gushed all about their teachers to me all I could think was "She's in love with her teacher and she doesn't know it." So I sat back and watched each of them discover it for themselves. Neither had a bad reaction to the revelation and both ended up sleeping with their teachers, the relationships did not last long however. And both of them ended up down the road married to men. I think their professors were the only women they ever slept with, but I can't say for certain.
I know it's not always that smooth of a transition for some people making the discovery they are attracted to the same sex so I'm wondering how they will handle Sandra's character when she discovers she's obsessed with Villanelle. .
|by Anonymous||reply 63||05/21/2018|
I cringe at the thought of what will happen to Konstantin's family next.
r63 Interesting anecdotes. And highly disconcerting; I feel like pedagogues definitely have a code of ethics that expressly forbids them from sleeping with their students. Or at least they should have, in my opinion.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||05/22/2018|
The "spanish" twink is Sebastian, who lives in Eve's building. She has a brief liaison with him. He says came to Paris from Spain and gave up his studies. Played by Brit Charlie Hamblett of enormous bee stung lips, which may be producing whatever that accent is supposed to be.....
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/22/2018|
[quote]He says came to Paris from Spain and gave up his studies.
Oh yes, that's exactly the bit I must have missed. I featured him at r16.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/22/2018|
r64 I also remembered that in recent years (about four years ago) I worked with a woman that is little more than 20 years younger than me who told me about the affair she had with HER professor in college. Has me thinking that female professors feel safer in crossing that line with their female students because they (the professors) don't see it as egregious and the students are very willing. Particularly the women that have never been with another woman before.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/23/2018|
Fiona Shaw is one of the 12. I'd bet my ass on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/24/2018|
o m g, this is my current tv obsession. Can’t wait to finish it during this fabulous long weekend. Season 2 can’t get here fast enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/24/2018|
I also have a feeling Fiona Shaw in one of The Twelve but is working as a double agent in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/25/2018|
So you think that picture of young Konstantin and Carolyn is actually a picture of The Twelve?
|by Anonymous||reply 71||05/25/2018|
r71 Oh, yes, for sure. And Oksana's teacher is the founder!
|by Anonymous||reply 72||05/25/2018|
I have to agree with the poster upthread, I think alot of us will be dressed as Villanelle come Halloween. This is a terrific show, and if handled well, it's headed toward being a gay classic ala Joan or Bette films. The camp level is there.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||05/25/2018|
"You hit me with a log?!"
I don't understand, a log is a beverage glass?
Kindly explain, this had me perplexed.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||05/25/2018|
Northern California thanks you, r75.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||05/25/2018|
Per r75, if Gary Merrill hit Bette that hard with a log it would be a DL meme for generations.
I'm telling you, there's some potential gay history happening right here in your lifetime.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||05/25/2018|
The entire show is a runaway renegade meme.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/25/2018|
Thread title, forty years from now: "Why wasn't 'Killing Eve' talked about more on DL when it was airing?"
Me, posting from my retirement home: "Don't look at me, bitch, I created the original thread!"
|by Anonymous||reply 79||05/25/2018|
Villanelle is the sickest, most vile little vixen we've had in decades. Glenn Close and Sharon Stone only wish they could have had this role.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||05/25/2018|
Pam Dawber is still angling for season two on the Lifetime Channel remake.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||05/25/2018|
It’s one of the best things on TV right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||05/25/2018|
r80 Oh, I'm the OP, but all of the old connections were severed in April's site-wide reset, unfortunately. (In case you were trying to check with the trolldar.)
|by Anonymous||reply 83||05/25/2018|
What would happen if Eve were to cut her hair, chop it all off and shave it down to the skull.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||05/25/2018|
r84, what a kickass plot device. Would we hear the creaking as Villanelle lost her last hinge?
|by Anonymous||reply 86||05/25/2018|
Fun article about Villanelle's obsession with hair:
|by Anonymous||reply 87||05/25/2018|
She kills in colors everywhere / She combs her hair /She kills in colors
|by Anonymous||reply 88||05/25/2018|
If, as r84 suggested, the hair comes off,
The Hair Comes Off.
That's a helluvan idea.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||05/25/2018|
I can tell Phoebe Waller-Bridge is involved. Villanelle gets hit with a log and then the guy speeds off in a boat giving her the middle finger. It's so campy.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||05/25/2018|
Did anyone else watch the season one finale?!
Christ, it was good, but I feel sorry for Villanelle.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||05/27/2018|
"I'm going to kill you in the face!"
|by Anonymous||reply 92||05/27/2018|
Wow. Great finale.
Poor Villanelle the psychotic homicidal bisexual assassin.
It would be great to see V and Eve at some point be able to have their own unique dysfunctional relationship but if PWB follows the lesbian lovers guide book for writers we know what will happen. One or both of them will end up dead or with a man. It would be refreshing if that doesn't happen though. Maybe Eve could become an assassin trained by Villanelle who decides to stay home and take care of Konstanin's daughter who they adopt. Villanelle could make sausages for Eve to take to work for lunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||05/27/2018|
Why oh why did she have to stab her at the end there? I wanted to see some tribadism finally!
r93 PWB killed two gays already so I'm not holding my breath.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||05/28/2018|
Dammit! How long do we have to wait until Season 2? Konstantin's daughter seems like she's going to be Villanelle 2.0.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||05/28/2018|
94 She killed Bill and are you counting Anna as the second gay killed so far?
|by Anonymous||reply 96||05/28/2018|
No, I'm counting the guy at r62. He was definitely gay and playing up the mannerisms on purpose.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||05/28/2018|
We still have to see if she's going to follow the other lesbian tropes though 94. It's okay if she uses them as long as the series does not end with the tropes holding up. Get me? She can always add them then smash them, it's time they get smashed. I want to see my lesbian sisters get the twisted happy ending they deserve.
Sorry for posting again. I hit post before I was really ready.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||05/28/2018|
Trying to skip over possible spoilers. I’m binge-watching now, and loving it. Thanks for the tip, hookers.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||05/28/2018|
Embarrassing bit from the AV Club recapper.
[quote]OK, has that woman ever seen a horse? There are many good jokes on this show, but somehow that woman describing “an ’orse” by growling and making claws was my favorite joke because I am sophisticated. At first I was like, come on, Eve, she’s clearly saying “horse,” but now I have no idea what animal she meant.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||05/28/2018|
I enjoy the show. I think the actors are strong and the writing is good and it deserves to be successful. I appreciate that it's female driven; I think that's great. But I don't think it's [italic]art[/art]. The Jezebelian bloggers over at AV talk about it as if it has a depth it simply doesn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||05/28/2018|
Damn it, we're no closer to finding out who or what the 12 are. Forget all this lesbian crap, I want to know who the 12 are and what is their purpose?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||05/28/2018|
[quote]“God, it makes me rage how efficient things are when you’re a dick to people.”
I just adore these offhand insightful remarks that made me fall in love with PWB's writing in Fleabag.
r103 Twelve seasons, and in each season one of The Twelve gets unmasked. One down, eleven to go. How does that sound to you?
|by Anonymous||reply 104||05/28/2018|
And La V has to assassinate each one, per season. Do you really think she wants out? Or is she feeding a line of bullshit to Eve? You know Eve's husband is doomed to the same fate as Anna's husband, poor thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||05/28/2018|
I liked the first seven episodes very much, but I felt let down by the finale. I thought the tone was off, with too much silliness.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||05/28/2018|
I think Eve and V might get the twisted happy ending. PWB seems to lean towards the unexpected in storytelling and there is so much stacked against both characters that you'd think they wouldn't make it.
Also, I don't think V would ever kill Eve. She has some humanity and I think she'd keep her promises, oddly enough.
Then again, who knows? I'm intrigued for the next season, either way.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||05/28/2018|
[quote]I liked the first seven episodes very much, but I felt let down by the finale. I thought the tone was off, with too much silliness.
The final episode was written by Phoebe Waller-Bridge alone and I think that she needs someone to pull her in a bit. She can load an episode with too much quirkiness.
Has anyone read the books they are based on? Are they as quirky as the tv show?
|by Anonymous||reply 108||05/28/2018|
r108, I was going to, but the reviews on them were pretty dismal:
|by Anonymous||reply 109||05/28/2018|
r101 It may not be art but it is telling a story on different levels. For instance, the title Killing Eve is not literal, It's more than likely not about someone trying to put an end to the life of Eve. It's about how a woman Eve is changed through her obsession with another woman who happens to be a psychopath and an assassin. Also, maybe Eve is the stand in for women everywhere who opt for a secure life rather than living who they truly are no matter the consequences. Women the world over are socialized to fall in line with narrow social norms, relationship expectations. Don't rock the boat. Don't be assertive. Don't be so emotional. etc. So killing Eve is ending the accepted way of being female for the world of men and instead finding your true self and not being afraid to live it. . . like Villanelle.
How about these musings. . .
When Villanelle and Anna saw each other again it was clear Anna had some hate for Oksana, it was also clear that she still loves Oksana. Anna wanted to kill Oksana, she also wanted to help her, "Let me clean your wounds." Anna hated Oksana because she loved her, hated Oksana because Anna could not accept her feelings for another woman. When Anna told Eve that her life was ruined after her husband died, I felt Anna was not just talking about losing her "Maxy" but about Oksana as well. Anna denied her attraction until the end. "the closet kills" Anna killed herself because she couldn't live knowing Oksana was still alive, that she didn't have to strength to kill Oksana because she still loves her and that she truly had feelings for another woman.
Interestingly Eve ends up stabbing Villanelle for some of the same reasons Anna wanted to shoot Villanelle. Anna's feelings are mirrored in Eve, but Eve chooses to act all her complicated feelings out by stabbing V. It's also interesting that both Eve and Anna blamed all their problems on V/Oksana taking no responsibility for their own actions that may have set them up to be exactly where they found themselves. So while V/Oksana is a murdering psychopath she is true to herself as much as she can be. Meanwhile these other ladies are looking to place blame on someone else and in the process deny who they are.
So there is a lot of shit happening. It's a fun show to watch, yes? But if this stuff I wrote didn't occur to you then you are missing the "art" of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||05/28/2018|
I can't stand Sandra Oh.
And why wouldnt't her character be Canadian?
|by Anonymous||reply 111||05/28/2018|
I read the book r108. No quirk what so ever. It's pretty dry actually.
Villanelle has no sense of humor, rather she is written as being fashion model beautiful, cold, aloof assassin. I think that is a straight guy fantasy. The cold aloof sexy female. She has no contradiction like the Villanelle in the show who is a cold blooded killer but wants someone to watch movies with and has charm.
Eve is very boring in the book (singular). I bought the Kindle version and there is only one book. Basically the book I read covers generally what we learn in the first season. It maps out who Eve is and now she gets the assignment to set up a task force of her own. It maps out who Villanelle is, how she became an assassin. It tells you about her training fairly in depth. The book Villanelle origin story is very different than TV Villanelle origin story. It introduces the 12 who are very powerful men in suits. Konstantin is a pool boy in comparison. Carolyn is not 12 material either. After setting all that up the chase for Villanelle and the 12 begins. Eve and Villanelle do not meet in the book at this stage because the end of the book is when the chase really starts. Villanelle is tested by having to kill Konstantin. Not sure if the show is going to have him be dead or alive and in hiding. Some people thing Konstantin didn't really die in the finale.
There is no Carolyn in the book or Bill or Kenny or Elena. Anna in the book is not married. The castration Villanelle commits is against a guy who raped Anna, the result is the same though. Anna is horrified and rejects Villanelle. Anna and V do not have sex in the book. A character similar to Nadia exists in the book but her relationship with Villanelle is very different. They are still lovers but the Nadia character is more equal to V in skills. Lastly in the book Villanelle does have one friend. A married wealthy woman who cheats on her husband all the time (Samantha Jones). She has connections to people in fashion and the arts. So V gets invited to fashion shows and art gatherings with her friend where she meets fabulous people to fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||05/28/2018|
Jackpot of a show. Is that a shirt attached to a sweater? funniest line of the year.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||05/29/2018|
R10.. I thought she was saying the Latin word for bear: Urse
|by Anonymous||reply 114||05/29/2018|
r114 No, she was saying "un ours" because she's French. Why would she switch to Latin all of a sudden? I guess people were just thrown because she was speaking flawless English up to that point. And I had to laugh - an elderly Parisienne speaking English like that? Not bloody likely.
Also, I just love how this show deals with the language thing. Where other shows would just have everyone speak English in Russia and never address how weird that is, we get constant self-aware and playful gags like "Why don't you speak Russian?" from the kid in the finale. There was similar stuff in the prison as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||05/29/2018|
For R103, You might be watching the wrong show.
Phoebe: “Every moment in this show exists so that these two women can end up alone in a room together,” “Killing Eve” creator Phoebe Waller-Bridge tells Variety. “Really it would have been a betrayal to the audience if they didn’t come together in the end.”
This reviewer from Ringer got it right: Killing Eve understands what it’s about: the messy entanglement between two women who can’t help wanting what they want. For Eve Polastri (Sandra Oh), that means immersing herself in every detail of the gifted young contract killer she’s chasing more out of personal interest than professional obligation. For Villanelle (Jodie Comer), the assassin, that means “normal stuff: Nice life. Cool flat. Fun job. Someone to watch movies with.” She just wants that stuff while fulfilling her natural urges as a murderous, self-described psychopath. Basically, she wants it all.
But Killing Eve fits its not-so-subtly coded romance between a restless, dissatisfied woman and the girl whose total freedom she envies into the contours of an espionage thriller. It’s a genre notoriously heavy on plot, which Killing Eve has largely eschewed in favor of the elegant simplicity of its central dynamic. Eve chases Villanelle, and Villanelle chases Eve right back. What few gestures showrunner Phoebe Waller-Bridge makes toward a grander design are largely in the service of their relationship, rather than vice versa: Someone has to point Villanelle in the direction of her targets, so Killing Eve, based on Luke Jennings’s Villanelle novels, has a shadowy organization known as the Twelve. “If you went high enough, you’ll find we work for the same people,” Villanelle posits to Eve at the season’s halfway point, and the show itself seems to agree: Everything above the duo’s pay grade blurs together in a generic face-off of institutions; everything that involves them directly pulsates with an addictive specificity."
The show knows what it's want and it's not about the plot. The psychosexual dance is their main focus and everything else is just background scenery insisting only to serve the main leads dynamic. It's more irreverent and less pretentious hannibal.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||05/29/2018|
What do we want? A gay male spinoff! When do we want it? NOW!
[quote]This reviewer from Ringer got it right
I had never heard of that site before, thanks for the tip.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||05/29/2018|
Well that might be a gay Bond then eh?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||05/29/2018|
Thanks R115. I don't know. I knew Urse- was the Latin word for bear (I don't speak French),. That's what I heard/. Thanks for the correction.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||05/29/2018|
If anyone is curious about that final scene this article in indiewire offers explanations on Eve's motivations and how the scene was conceived.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||05/29/2018|
r121 Yeah, I was a bit confused with Eve's motivations in that scene and that was really illuminating, thanks.
[quote]“Then Sandra came over to my house for dinner, and I was talking through the scene with her, and we ended up having a bottle of wine and excitedly acting the whole thing out in my kitchen.”
|by Anonymous||reply 122||05/30/2018|
Bryan Fuller said in a podcast discussion about gay characters today that the Killing Eve finale inspired him to up the ante in the possible Hannibal season 4. That's some high praise right there.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||05/30/2018|
New Yorker article breaking down the finale. Nothing new really, just that it's the New Yorker.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||05/30/2018|
I know we're meant to move, to move forward, to move any-which-way...
But doesn't being a grown-up feel somehow rotten and pointless when you realize that you're reading a TV recap in The New Yorker?
|by Anonymous||reply 125||05/30/2018|
Being a grown up means not giving a fuck what other people think.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||05/31/2018|
What's wrong with The New Yorker? That recap provides a critical analysis in addition to the synopsis, as most recaps do these days. Besides, it's the person who writes them that matters more to me, not necessarily where they're published.
[quote]Jia Tolentino is a staff writer at The New Yorker whose recent work includes a Profile of the attorney Gloria Allred, a review of the literature on the millennial generation, and essays on the ongoing cultural reckoning about sexual assault. Previously, she was the deputy editor at Jezebel and a contributing editor at the Hairpin. She grew up in Texas, attended the University of Virginia on a Jefferson Scholarship, served in the Peace Corps in Kyrgyzstan, and received an M.F.A. in fiction from the University of Michigan. Her criticism has appeared in the New York Times Magazine, Grantland, the Awl, Pitchfork, The Fader, Time, and Slate.
If you're interested in the perspective and insight on this particular show from a person like her (I am, for example), you'll read her recap. If not, you'll find another recapper. I read different writers for different shows for that very reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||05/31/2018|
I thought the finale was a mess and the characters lost the little verisimilitude they had.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||05/31/2018|
If you hookers liked “Killing Eve”, you should check out “Deutschland 83”. Very similar spy thriller series. There’s gay stuff in it, too. Sessy men. Set in Berlin at the end of the Cold War, before the Wall came down.
Excellent stuff. You’d like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||05/31/2018|
I haven't seen the show, but I love the title!
|by Anonymous||reply 131||05/31/2018|
[bold]‘Killing Eve’ Ends First Season With Unbroken Streak Of Weekly Ratings Growth[/bold]
[quote]The season finale drew 1.25 million viewers, up 86% from its premiere, with 545,000 adults 25-54 and 378,000 adults 18-49 — up 127% and 100% from the premiere, respectively. The season finale was up over its penultimate episode, which drew 986,000 total viewers, 455,000 adults 25-54, and 367,000 adults 18-49 and was also the No. 1 most social drama of the day.
[quote]The series also continues its week-to-week growth on BBCA’s digital platforms and now ranks as the network’s No. 1 digital series ever with more than 1 million full episode views to date. In addition, the premiere has become the most watched digital episode in network history.
An unbroken record of weekly ratings growth in the key adults 25-54 and 18-49 demos is something no other show on television has accomplished in more than a decade.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||06/01/2018|
I'm missing my favorite psychopath and my favorite neurotic MI5 agent.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||06/03/2018|
Phoebe Waller-Bridge is a great writer and actress. I loved her in Crashing, and her other series Fleabag. She wrote and starred in both of them. The characters are always so interesting. I wish they'd done another series of Crashing, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||06/03/2018|
An interview with Jodie Comer.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||06/04/2018|
The other Jodie is a fan.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||06/11/2018|
so sad, nothing to watch now...nothing good on tv at all! ugh....
|by Anonymous||reply 138||06/11/2018|
Any fans of Jodie around?
Here's a short play that's part of a BBC series for women. Jodie stars in this one. It's pretty funny, really shows her comedy chops.
God this girl is talented.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||06/29/2018|
What makes Killing Eve's Villanelle so lovable despite being so evil?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||06/29/2018|
[bold]Sandra Oh on ‘Killing Eve’ and Her Historic Emmy Nomination[/bold]
[quote][bold]It’s wild to imagine that, in 2018, we’re announcing you as the first Asian woman nominated in your category.[/bold]
[quote]You want to know what? Let’s celebrate it, man. I’m serious, just [expletive] celebrate it. It’s like, we’ve got to start somewhere. And I’m happy to get that ball rolling, because what I hope happens is that next year and the next year and the next year, we will have presence. And the presence will grow not only to Asian-Americans, you know, from yellow to brown, but to all our other sisters and brothers. Our First Nations sisters and brothers. Our sisters and brothers of different sizes and different shapes. If I can be a part of that change, like [expletive], yeah, let’s celebrate it.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||07/13/2018|
I just realized it starred the girl who spent 4 episodes constantly weeping in the awful, awful drama Remember Me. That was the one with Michael Palin playing an old man who was being haunted by his Indian former nanny who would make electricity go out, make water to drip everywhere and leave little shells all over the place. One of the stupidest miniseries ever made.
Well, she proved she can cry on cue
|by Anonymous||reply 142||07/16/2018|
Here she is crying behind Michael Palin
|by Anonymous||reply 143||07/16/2018|
Here she is crying in front of Michael Palin
|by Anonymous||reply 144||07/16/2018|
Here she is crying with Robert Baratheon
|by Anonymous||reply 145||07/16/2018|
I don’t have a problem wth Sandra all the time she is great at times. Wonder if they considered Lucy Liu.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||07/21/2018|
OMG. I just blew through this thread not reading the posts because I stopped watching this show half way through because I ADORED it so much that I did not want it to end.
I need to watch the 5th episode!!
Best show in YEARS and the fact that it did not get Outstanding Drama Emmy nomination is SICK!
UN fucking real.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||07/21/2018|
Why does it say this series is based on books? I can only find one.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||07/22/2018|
r148 Seems there are four of them?
|by Anonymous||reply 149||07/22/2018|
[bold]‘Killing Eve’: Phoebe Waller-Bridge to Produce Season 2 With New Writer, Directors[/bold]
[quote]Lead writing duty now goes to writer-actor Emerald Fennell, who will serve as an executive producer and is best-known for her role in the BBC and PBS series “Call the Midwife.” Waller-Bridge brought Fennell on board, and was also instrumental in attaching two new directors to the series, Lisa Bruhlmann (“Blue My Mind”) and Francesca Gregorini (“Electric Dreams”). Damon Thomas returns as a director and executive producer. Waller-Bridge will remain actively involved as executive producer on the new season, which has started shooting in Europe.
[quote]The first season was shot across Europe, and the second season will shoot in locations including Amsterdam, London and Paris.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||07/27/2018|
Hmm, Fennell has written four episodes of TV and this short film, starring PWB, which came out this year. We'll see, although the plot of the movie makes me think she's a good fit.
[quote]A darkly comic three part short film about malevolent women.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||07/27/2018|
I absolutely love some of Villanelle's naughty girl facial expressions, especially the ones used here.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||07/27/2018|
[bold]Why the Fashion on 'Killing Eve' Is Its Own Delicious Subplot[/bold]
[quote]Villanelle sees a side of Eve that Eve would rather not show the world. Quite romantically, that side is communicated by her unruly, fabulous hair. Villanelle comes to practically fetishize it, recognizing—accurately—that Eve could be a wilder woman than she’s allowing herself to be. In one of the most erotic moments of the show, Eve opens up her lost suitcase, only to discover that Villanelle has stocked it with decadent designer clothing, all in her exact sizes. Swigging wine, she tries on a dress—a Roland Mouret black-and-ivory number—and is stunned at the femme fatale she sees in the mirror. As the show’s costume designer, Phoebe de Gaye, put it, Villanelle “wants to manipulate Eve into seeing her own beauty.”
|by Anonymous||reply 153||07/27/2018|
Why was this series free last night and tonight they want me to pay four bucks per episode?
|by Anonymous||reply 154||07/27/2018|
SORRY R154!!!! I noticed a little note on Comcast that said Free through 7/25 or something and managed to catch the last half of this amazing show. For free. It will probably be free again right before the Season 2 premiere.
Fantastic show. Up there with Mad Men/SFU/The Sopranos in my opinion.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||07/28/2018|
the Asian lady is a mystery to me
I find her unwatchable
|by Anonymous||reply 157||08/30/2018|
And whoever said that they didn't get a sapphic vibe from this must be headless.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||08/30/2018|
R157, I always felt that way about Sandra too! I found her perfect in Sideway,s and was like finally I can watch this woman in something.
Killing Eve, has 100% turned me around! I absolutely LOVE HER now. She has a great mixture of strength, humor, intelligence, emotional inaccessibility and emotional vulnerability. And she has EXCELLENT CHEMISTRY with all the actors on the series. I cannot say enough good things. She oozes a detached sarcastic quality had hides the character's sensitivity.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||09/01/2018|
Interview with Phoebe Waller-Bridge in this weekend's Guardian:
|by Anonymous||reply 160||09/09/2018|
Jodie Comer does not work as an international beauty type. She is pretty, not in a likeable way, but in the manner of an aerobics instructor from Swindon. Like the Sloaney actress miscast as Princess Margaret in The Crown, she is British suburbia writ large.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||09/21/2018|
There is something wrong with Sandra Oh's eyelids.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||09/21/2018|
R57 the Spanish twink with luscious lips is Charlie Hamblett. He used to be the bf of Daisy Ridley of Star Wars.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||11/19/2018|
They're filming the second series at the moment. They were filming in Senate House in London the other day.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||11/19/2018|
Reviews for the second season looking good!
|by Anonymous||reply 165||03/27/2019|
Starts tonight on BBC America and AMC at 8 p.m.
I've seen the first episode, which was available early on iPlayer and... there's definitely a noticeable difference in the writing. I wonder how the general audience is going to react to that. The critics seem to like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||04/07/2019|
That theme, reminds me of the lalalalalala from Sister Act 2 . Is that an overture from something ?
|by Anonymous||reply 168||04/07/2019|
Been looking forward to this!
|by Anonymous||reply 169||04/07/2019|
Looking forward to tonight's episode and hoping the new team of writers doesn't destroy the unique vibe.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||04/07/2019|
Renewed for third season and getting a new showrunner.
[quote]Per a press release from BBC America, Suzanne Heathcote (Fear Of The Walking Dead) will take over the reins from current head writer Emerald Fennell, who stepped in for Phoebe Waller-Bridge this go-round.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||04/08/2019|
A Walking Dead writer? RIP Killing Eve.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||04/08/2019|
So happy it’s back. I laughed when Villanelle did the thing in the hospital. Jesus god.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||04/08/2019|
I liked the episode, but yeah, the writing change is noticeable. And now they'll be changing showrunners AGAIN next season? Crazy.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||04/08/2019|
Why are they torturing us with weekly episodes instead of dropping the entire season like civilized people do in 2019?
|by Anonymous||reply 175||04/08/2019|
I didn't think the change was that noticeable except for when Villanelle wanted the stickers and lollipop in the hospital. That was too twee. I also would have liked to see more of a thought process between "Eve stabbed me, I want to kill the bitch" and "Eve stabbed me, that means she really loves me".
Killing Gabriel was in character I guess, but still made me wince a bit.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||04/09/2019|
I’m confused. Dish took away my BBCAmerica and is AMC just showing the first season ? Why is Phobe three names not the show runner anymore ?
|by Anonymous||reply 177||04/09/2019|
I watched an episode last week. It was stupid and appeared to be repetitive. Like the tv series The Fugitive, but with lots of guns.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||04/09/2019|
I enjoyed the second episode a lot more. Villanelle's little Basildon detour was delightful. I can't get over the things Jodie Comer does with her face...
Henry Lloyd-Hughes is very straight but I'd still lick every square centimetre of his gorgeous face. Gosh, he's handsome.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||04/13/2019|
I like that Eve is totally in denial about everything. She's a fucking trainwreck and I like that. I can hang with this if she is great at her job but messy about everything else.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||04/13/2019|
It sucks I have Hulu Live and I thought that BBC America/A&E was part of it but does not record Season 2 for my DVR. I guess I have to wait!
|by Anonymous||reply 181||04/13/2019|
R179, where are you watching season 2? I still can't access the second episode on BBC America, AMC or other sites.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||04/14/2019|
I wish I could just binge-watch this show. How did V not sniff out Julian immediately?
|by Anonymous||reply 184||04/14/2019|
It says no login required
|by Anonymous||reply 185||04/14/2019|
I just watch it on iTunes
|by Anonymous||reply 186||Last Monday at 2:18 PM|
Really enjoy this show. Binged season 1 like 2 week ago and have been watching season 2 real time on AMC. A few things here and there are a little "ya right-ish" but overall it's entertaining. All the actors are great and Sandra Oh is actually quite funny. British Prime time television really embarrasses US television.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||Last Monday at 2:26 PM|
I feel like the one "straight DLer" was represented in the latest episode (2 for me) by the man who Villanelle runs into at the grocery store.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||Last Monday at 3:01 PM|
Yes, R188, but I was getting some mixed signals with all those dolls he had. I thought doll collecting was a gay man's thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||Last Monday at 5:50 PM|
This kind of goes back to last season, but did anyone notice that they had Eve come up with the nickname Villanelle for the female assassin she was chasing, before she knew that this was in fact her nickname? Pretty clumsy storytelling.
I was reminded of it when Eve explained how Villanelle prefers the nickname in this last episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||Last Monday at 5:56 PM|
Of course the DL oldies love the young british guy who is 40 years their junior. LOL
Can't wait for next episode, and also, you can tell that the writing is different.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||Last Wednesday at 7:43 PM|
[quote]Yes, [R188], but I was getting some mixed signals with all those dolls he had. I thought doll collecting was a gay man's thing.
Even though he liked pussy you still got mixed signals?
If he wanted COCK and had the dolls, gay. Wanted PUSSY and has a COCK while having the dolls: straight.
Being a fucking weirdo freak doesn't make him gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||Last Wednesday at 7:45 PM|
R189 not to offend, re-read your comment and I was probably too forward, but prob with all of the tranny shit going on right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||Last Wednesday at 7:46 PM|
I don't think the writing is as good.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||Last Wednesday at 7:46 PM|
Agreed, the dialogue, while still much better than most TV shows, doesn't have the same snap it did in the first season. I put this down to Phoebe Waller-Bridge no longer writing the majority of the episodes and also no longer being showrunner, just executive producer. She has a certain style that's hard to replicate -- it's like when you're watching Kimmy Schmidt and you hear a line that only Tina Fey could have written. No doubt Waller-Bridge had a hand in the scripts, but that's not the same as writing them herself. (There was an echo of her style in Carolyn's little monologue in S2/01 about the swimming ponds and, I'm paraphrasing, how Daddy liked to hook up with men there as an added bonus.)
Still, even without W-B, I wouldn't miss an episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Last Thursday at 9:55 AM|
Even more lesbians on tv. Like they don't have enough representation already?! LOOOL! Zzzzzzzz. Call me when they make a crime series about/featuring gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Last Thursday at 9:58 AM|
[quote]Even more lesbians on tv. Like they don't have enough representation already?! LOOOL! Zzzzzzzz. Call me when they make a crime series about/featuring gay men.
She's bisexual, you dipshit. There are way more gay men on tv than actual lesbians. Always have been.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Thursday at 10:01 AM|