What does Stormy Daniels REALLY have on Trump?

Maybe not just an abortion. Maybe he told her that his last kid was a retard and he doesn’t want to have to pretend to care about another waste of flesh and bones like that.

I can imagine him saying that.

I think he's afraid she's going to jump on the whole #metoo bandwagon and claim that he raped or assaulted her.

She seems like a bit of a loose cannon, and I'm sure Trump would rather she shut up and/or disappear ASAP.

If Melania can prove adultery on his part, it may invalidate their pre-nup. But I've also read that they were going to divorce amicably before he ran for President and she is being paid $$$$ to stay on until after the 2nd campaign.

Eh R2 multiple people have accused him of bad behavior toward women and it hasn’t stuck. The evangicals forgive him because they don’t care if a woman is being abused. And the evangelicals are basically his only real base (which I think he knows). So what would really turn them against him that he would not want out? I think abortion or maybe he likes to play with dildoes. Can you imagine? The evangelicals’ heads would explode.

Hopefully Melania will leave him now - it would me monumental if she did.

I don't think his base would care about anything that he did. Even an abortion, they would find a way to justify it.

Stormy just strikes me as an opportunist who is looking to make some $$$. I wouldn't be surprised if some Dems were financing her.

Melania is earning her cash, that’s for sure. She won’t leave him though. She knows what Putin does to defectors and I’m sure she expects the same from Trump.

It’s an abortion and he loves to be peed on.

Trump's base, even the evangelicals, will not fault him for an abortion. They will blame her for everything.

My guess is that 45 likes it in his mussy and Stormy has video proof.

[quote]She seems like a bit of a loose cannon, and I'm sure Trump would rather she shut up and/or disappear ASAP.

Actually, she seems quite composed.

[quote]Stormy just strikes me as an opportunist who is looking to make some $$$. I wouldn't be surprised if some Dems were financing her.

You want to make this into some Democratic conspiracy, R2?

If she has video proof, then why doesn't she just leak it? She claims the NDA isn't valid anyway, so what is she waiting for??

My guess is that she has nothing, and just wants $$$ like any other porn star.

Let's face it, she fucked Trump so we can't say she has the best judgment.

Working hard at discrediting her, huh?

[quote]I think he's afraid she's going to jump on the whole #metoo bandwagon and claim that he raped or assaulted her.

[quote]She seems like a bit of a loose cannon, and I'm sure Trump would rather she shut up and/or disappear ASAP.

[quote]Stormy just strikes me as an opportunist who is looking to make some $$$. I wouldn't be surprised if some Dems were financing her.

[quote]If she has video proof, then why doesn't she just leak it? She claims the NDA isn't valid anyway, so what is she waiting for??

[quote]My guess is that she has nothing, and just wants $$$ like any other porn star.

[quote]Let's face it, she fucked Trump so we can't say she has the best judgment.

Thanks for repeating everything I said, R13.

I'm no Trump supporter, but I'm annoyed with liberals and the media pushing the idea that we have to accept Stormy Daniels as some sort of virtuous heroine.

My opinion of her is that she's a pornstar who fucked an unattractive married man, and then took a payout for it. I think she's an opportunist who has questionable motives.

That's my OPINION and you are free to disagree.

He is a real douchebag.

R13 the Russian trolls are getting better. Trying to appear more reasonable. Hence what we have here at R14.

Melania won't divorce him he will simply fire her an hour before her prenup kicks in and then just replace her with someone from Fox News

Proof that he forced her to get an abortion.

Sociopaths attract other sociopaths. And most politicians and most sex workers are sociopaths.

Melanie is pretty much MIA anyway. Not sure it would impact the country in any way if they divorced. She doesn’t do anything.

I don’t think so, R9. News of an abortion would definitely shrink the size of his base.

R12? Nobody here is judging Stormy except you. We’re guessing what she has on him. So fuck off, you’re not fooling anyone.

Just block the troll.

[quote]What does Stormy Daniels REALLY have on Trump?

Nothing that won't re-elect him.

It's pillow-talk. That's what she has on him. He spilled his guts to her, bragged to her. She knows everything. He's scared, despite the fact that she will not have a corroborative witness.

She has material evidence. She also has an excellent attorney who will advise her as to her further comments on the matter. She is actually quite clever.

She has nothing. NEXT.

When he cums he shouts “MOMMY!”

She has it on tape.

There are other NDAs. Lots. He's terrified that if this one is nullified the floodgates will open

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I like where R29 is coming from.

Of course Stormy is looking for $$$. She's a whore, darlin.

But she's a smart cookie. Love her

Don't forget to FF before doing so, R23.

The story has to be hard to deal with for the wife.

R33 = 🇷🇺

So according to this thread, everyone except for R32 is a Russian?

Not buying it..

Language cues, dude. Non-native speakers are easy to spot once you know to look for them.

She's got his Mexican birth certificate!

She probably doesn't have much to tell. I can't imagine the encounter itself was interesting at all. It was probably very quick, considering how selfish he is. She could describe the run-up to the encounter. How did he come on to her initially? How long did it last? Did he give her any expensive gifts? More interesting will be the facts surrounding the NDA. At what point did they ask her to sign it? What reason did they give for it? Did they threaten her then?

R36, There are lots of Americans who are non-native English speakers, dude. Doesn't mean they are Russian trolls.

It's sad that liberals accuse anyone who doesn't believe a pornstar is the Blessed Mother, of being a non-American.

R38 She described most of that already in her magazine interview.

It was way more than a quickie.

No, R39, but your virgin/whore attitude makes you someone to avoid, anyway.

It takes a thief to catch a thief, and if Stormy Weather is the one who does it, I won't complain.

She has texts and photos. They are evidence that he cheated on his wife, which could help Melania depending on what a prenup says. I think the person who mentioned the other NDAs is right. He has to go nuclear to keep them quiet. The porn star doesn't care, though. Also, I wonder if Trump failed to sign the other NDAs like he failed to sign this one.

It wasn't just a one night stand. Went on for months. Whores understand whore life. Mel is fine with it.

[quote]My guess is that she has nothing, and just wants $$$ like any other porn star.

Sure. That's why Donald "someone hits me, I hit back!" Drumpf is scared shitless of even mentioning her name.

Let's get one thing straight. You can't FORCE someone to have an abortion she isn't willing to have unless you physically restrain her first and then go at it. So nobody *forced* Stormy to have an abortion - if she aborted Trump's spawn, it was a choice she made. That's why Trump's base would hold her responsible, not him.

I'm thinking filmed evidence of threesomes, or Trump getting off to another man fucking Stormy.

I hope she has a pee tape.

Is this really news to anyone that he cheated on his wife? This bitch better have something good, or else she's just wasting everyone's time.

I really think this will turn out to be a big disappointing nothingburger, just like his taxes, and Russian collusion... and whatever else Rachel Maddow has devoted the last 2 years of her life to.

you have no idea if his taxes are a "nothingburger" Boris. We haven't seen them. the truth is, the real dirt is probably in his constant grifting and the fact that he's all mobbed up with the Russian mobsters. Going after the Trump Organization is the really dangerous move on Mueller's part, and I wonder if that is going to be what gets him fired.

[quote]I hope she has a pee tape.

Yes, R48, we've seen the taxes, on Rachel's show...and they are nothing.

But just keep on believing that the "real dirt" is coming, because Rachel told you so. Meanwhile Trump will win re-election while you're still waiting.

A tape of a threesome with Ivanka. But I bet it's something more like watersports that would validate the pee tape.

R50, we saw a page or two of taxes.

But nice try at deceiving the gullible.

He told her he would do anything for Putin. Anything

R50 um yeah, Dems are winning in Deep red districts and Trump will win re-election....

Makes perfect sense

If nothing else, Stormy is giving the bots something to look at in their cubicles, besides Trump's fat ass.

R12/R14 has provided us the brilliant insight that a porn star and stripper is looking to get paid.

And here I was thinking she was hoping to parlay this reveal into a UN ambassadorship.

She is claiming their affair went on past the time he was inaugurated.

R57: where did you hear that?

cant believe so many trolls here dissin Stormi.

She will shake the presidency to its core.

and you fuks can cry when trump is led away in chaines.

Maybe she has a few of his "A Face in the Crowd" moments on video.

I think it’s just the fact that they had a relationship at all. God, that’s a vile idea, even if 10 years ago. Pluspillow talk of small consequence.

I remember saying on another thread that they wondered if he got her to dress like Ivanka and call him daddy, etc.

Face it - whatever it is - it’s not straightforward sexual congress that would in anyway make him look like some sort of stud -

It’s gotta be stuff that would humiliate him. Like having a really small dick. Or liking it up the ass. Toys up the ass. Peeing on him? While he’s in an adult diaper? Or leather gear? Or dressed like a woman himself? Or the aforementioned Ivanka fantasy? Who knows? It could be anything - but it’ll be something that humiliates him and makes him look weird and less masculine in the eyes of the public...

Or it’s the pillow talk. Where he says some really indiscreet stuff about his family, friends and minions - that would also them - and him! - humiliated.

Hope it’s a combo of the two!

Pegging FTW - but I hope I don't have to see that!

He likes the hos to pee pee on him.

R6, you didn't have to tell us that you're also R2.

I think he probably talked badly about Melanoma and the newborn. He is also a ridiculous Mr. Braggadocio, so he might have boasted about other conquests he had right under Melanoma's nose.

I cannot imagine him sending tiny-dick pictures, I have to say. And if there were texts, how would she have saved them? Did they email to each other?

Most likely, he does not remember what he told her, and that's what scares him. That he doesn't know what she knows.

I've also heard, like the poster above said the relationship lasted well past January. Trumps bodyguard, who testified before congress (?), said the Russian pee pee incident never happened. Stormy says the bodyguard was the go between for her and trump. If she can prove that, then his story about trumps good behavior in Russia goes out the window, cuz he'll be a proven liar.

I believe I got this from David Corn. He has a book out abt trump and I follow him on Twitter.

"Russian Roulette, " I think.

Stormy has "worked" with DL Fave Julian.

The pee tape isnt Trump being peed on, it's trump paying women to pee on a bed that the Obamas slept on. So it's less a fetish and more him being so petty and vindictive as to ruin a bed because someone he hates slept in it.

I thought she said they never actually fucked.

Maybe she has an audio recording of him admitting to being totally impotent. Maybe he's a nullo.

Maybe she has footage of herself peeing directly into his mouth while he calls out Ivanka's name between gulps.

Maybe she has footage of Vlad pounding him in the ass.

Oooh maybe he likes to role play that he IS Ivanka.

Dude, it could be anything, but she knows she has an ace in hand.

I'm crossing my fingers for a video tape. It will be history, the first time both the president and first lady have nude photos/videos!

I bet he told her to pretend she was Ivanka. And that’s in the text/video she has. It’s the only thing I can think that would be legitimately embarrassing to him.

The working theory on Mueller's probe is that Russia is blackmailing Trump into doing their bidding using evidence they've amassed of Trump's sexual impropriety.

Trump's rebuttal to this, which you can read in his very tweets tonight, is that he is not guilty of sexual impropriety, and therefore Russia cannot have any blackmail material, and therefore the Steele Dossier is a lie, and therefore the FISA court warrant is unjust, and therefore Hillary Clinton and the intelligence community must be publicly gutted to atone for their sins.

However, Stormy Daniels is claiming that there was, in fact, ongoing sexual impropriety. This is a direct challenge to a central tenet of Trump's defense.

This is why Trump is scared shitless about her, and sending cryptic death threats to her via his lawyers.

Its not sex its drugs. She has proof of him ingesting illegal substances (snorting cocaine).

Abortion is unlikely. She is a professional, and surely uses pregnancy control. If she did become pregnant, aborting would be like killing the goose that laid gold eggs. Child support and discretion would set her up for life; no more blowing old men! His base knows he used to be pro-choice when he was a democrat; they forgive him that. He's incapable of feeling ashamed or embarrassed about immorality; he has no morals. If she has anything it's about a criminal act. I think she is bluffing to get more money. She's a HUSTLER.

Why NOW does she feel a burning desire to inform America and the world about the presitard?

And another thing: why would she take her info to Anderson Cooper? Why not Robert Mueller? She's just trawling for dollars

[quote]She probably doesn't have much to tell. I can't imagine the encounter itself was interesting at all.

Encounter? It wasn't just ONE encounter. They had a months long affair. Keep up!

"She's a HUSTLER."

And he's not?

they better git that vid on tv asap fore his henchman drop a piano on the poor dear.

BE SAFE STORMY

Melania wouldn't have given a fuck if the entire affair had been kept secret. She's got her meal ticket (the kid) and is perfectly fine with what her dear hubby does as long as he keeps it in private.

[quote]She's just trawling for dollars

Aren't we all?

So tired of the assholes who keep saying Trump can’t be re-elected. I want to punch them. Publicly espousing that (idiotic) belief is part of how we ended up with Trump in the first place. It depresses the Dem vote.

If he’s the Republican candidate on Election Day 2020 and didn’t have a strong primary opponent, his chance of re-election is north of 60%. With a strong primary challenge fracturing the party, his chances go down to 40% or so (Although I think Partisan loyalty has Become so primal that a primary challenge would have a lesser affect than it did when Carter or Bush was running). He was a major party candidate with an open seat last time and his chances were always 50-50 being elected.

People who denied that at the time were playing with fire and depressing the Democratic vote. And Im mainly talking about Democrats especially those who don’t understand his appeal.

why cant they dig up some dirt on paul.....

[quote]Melania wouldn't have given a fuck if the entire affair had been kept secret. She's got her meal ticket (the kid) and is perfectly fine with what her dear hubby does as long as he keeps it in private.

Didn't they have Barron years into the relationship? It seemed that they were over each other at that point; I wonder why they bothered to procreate. I give Melanija Knavs props for getting her meal ticket when she did, before he dumped her for a younger piece.

As if Pauley carried such precious cargo in his pants 😂

R85, from what I've heard, she insisted on having a child. Plump gave in only after she promised him her body wouldn't change for the worse due to pregnancy.

he so cute he musta hired a few gals huh.....

[quote] So tired of the assholes who keep saying Trump can’t be re-elected.

I think people are a lot more aware today than they were in the fall of 2016 that something incomprehensible CAN happen in an election. No one could have predicted the change of the familiar rules of an election cycle. Those rules were being changed as the election was happening. I do not believe that even Putin could have planned things this well; it was a lot of unknown forces coming together in the right way for T***p (we're just finding out about FB and Cambridge Analytica).

Unfortunately, we only know of one way to counter this and that's showing up to vote. We don't even know if the voting machines will be safe from Putin in 2020.

R77, Mueller's investigation is to do with Russian interference. Stormy's scandal is of a different colour. Why the fuck would she speak to Mueller?

The base, especially the online Trumpsters, will say they don't care about abortion or that it's all her fault or a lie, but in the numbers, I think it really will affect him. I also think the affair could fuck with a prenup.

Aaand he's got tiny hands so we can assume he's got a nubbin.

Any of these things will hurt him and bring him humiliations galore.

Aw jeez, r72. I hate that you might be on to something.

"If the voting machines will be safe from Putin in 2020."

Or 2018.

R90 The payment was done to buy stormy' s silence.. this is an in kind donation to the election. The payment exceeds 2700, so violates campaign law. Cohen didn't report the payment to the FCC. So it looks like Cohen defrauded the FCC.

Mueller uses this threat of imprisonment to pressure Cohen to cooperate with the Russian investigation.

Cohen can corroborate bank records, travel documents, names of people present at meetings.

That's my understanding.

This is just one of the many photos Stormy has.

A better view. Donnie loves to get his toenails painted red.

she has his cum on one of her bras....

Here's another of Stormy's photos.

The Little Donald.

I think Bill Cosby is fueling all this. He kept it all quiet for a long, long time. But then things changed. Stormy is the first to fight back at Trump. And when the court declares the hush agreement to be defective and to have no binding effect on Stormy Daniels, the Bill Cosby flood gates will open on Trump's fat ass.

A first semester law student already has enough contract law knowledge to tell you why this agreement is defective. Cohen tried to pull a fast one when he prepared a final agreement for signature, but never got it fully executed by all the parties. The court is not going to go for this. At all. And also first semester contracts... any ambiguity in the document is construed against the drafter. Cohen and his LLC are the drafter. Trump didn't adopt the agreement by signing. Stormy is in a very strong position.

Everyone expected Clinton to win. The week before the election was Stormy's last chance to squeeze money out of Trump by selling her silence. A week later and the pressure was supposed to be off. He would have lost. Imagine if SHE had not signed. She could have gotten soooooo much more from a President-elect. She must have been furious that she sold short. And by not getting Trump's signature on the dotted line, Cohen handed her everything she needs to cash in. And there will be other women he bought off who will be talking to attorneys.

Line forms in the back, ladies.

He probably told her about the Russians rigging the election and how much money he was laundering.

I like r66's take: he can't remember what he told her.

Her attorney was on Morning Joe on Friday and said the amount of money was pertinent somehow. Like why wasn't it more? Maybe there was deal for him to invest in one of her productions? He also said she was physically threatened. It will all come out in the 60 Minutes interview which is yet another week away. I don't understand why it's not on tomorrow. Why the delay?

[quote]Most likely, he does not remember what he told her, and that's what scares him. That he doesn't know what she knows.

In the similar case (albeit non-intimate) of the sacked McCabe, he has lashed out at McCabe's notes - sight unseen - as 'fake memos.' Pretends not to care about what he can't recall.

In the Stormy case though he's not indulged in any such lashing about what he doesn't know. He needs to treat her with as much cautious fear as he does Putin. Which speaks volumes.

It she knows about the human trafficking and Melania's hooker past

Here you go, OP.

No, r57. And her lawyer simply said there were activities that were post-Inauguration. Think threats and intimidation.

Everyone knows he’s basically dickless, he shows that every day. It’s got to be something way better than that!

R70, Daniels/Clifford hasn't declared that their months-long affair (to which she did attest) did not include sex!

Sorry guys, her lawyer said Trump has never impregnanted Daniels'.

No abortion or secret love child.

Maybe she has proof he's threatened her and/or other people, or admitted to having them killed?

Yes, r102! Remember when Trump was all bravado about calling all the accusing women "liars" whom he would sue ASAP?

Hahaha! Sure, Donnie.

He doesn't know which way to turn, with these legal problems with Stormy and her bulldog lawyer. And with Mueller on his trail for:

treason (e. g., knowledge of computer attacks on voting machines by a hostile foreign nation);

obstruction of justice (e. g., firing Coney and McCabe);

subornation of perjury (e.g., Sessions);

business fraud;

money laundering;

acceptance of foreign funds for a political campaign;

hiring foreign agents to run a political campaign (Manafort, Page, Papadopoulous);

multiple breaches of the Emoluments Clause;

and IMO, what might possibly bring him down as it did another famous criminal capo:

Income tax evasion.

"Comey."

Are we sure the affair continued through 2016? Or is that just a rumor?

R15: Drump is an insult to douchebags everywhere.

I have my doubts that we'll ever know. If anyone is going to get $20 mil, it will be her from Trump.

r114, Dump doesn't even have twenty bucks, much less twenty million. He probably hasn't even touched real money in fifteen years. Bankrupt as fuck and leveraged out the ass.

Is it just me or does Stormy look a lot like Rosemarie DeWitt?

She may not know anything but as long as the dotard thinks she does and she keeps baiting him, I'm ok with that.

But I think r103 is correct. I think she knows about the human trafficking and probably has some sort of proof.

And then the shit will really hit the fan.

Maybe she has him admitting to raping that 12-year old at Epstein's party? A young woman came forward last year but declined to go further out of fear.

I want it to be that he has some really fucked up fetish like Christian Bale's whole shitrag thing.

R2 trollerina!

"And another thing: why would she take her info to Anderson Cooper? Why not Robert Mueller? She's just trawling for dollars"

Well for one thing, Anderson being gay helps - if it was Steve Croft, everyone would bring up his kinky affair with a married woman.

Plus Anderson, as we all suspect, certainly has familiarity with porn stars.

Finally, you get the definitely damaged, but still-present prestige of 60 Minutes to wrap what could potentially be a salacious story.

Oh and as far as he looking for money - who gives a shit? Let her get what she can from Trump.

Stormy has something more than "he say, she say". She has pic/video evidence, texts, notes/letters, receipts, DNA, or whatever to support the claims she may reveal on 60 minutes. Her lawyer would not be confidently on multiple news shows if he was not holding back an Ace. He's too articulate and strategic to speak otherwise.

I agree, r121. Even if she has nothing as is leveraging this for money she still played him and he looked the fool. So whatever her motivation is fine by me.

She's a hoot. Want to impugn her character? You can't, she's a porn star? Want to accuse her of looking for a payout? Well of course, duh! Want to accuse her of cheating with a married man? El stupido, she's a porn star/hooker who gets PAID. This is so much damn fun and I really like this smart woman. She's playing him like a fiddle at a barn burning.

Right, r124? I think that's the reason so many people are rooting for her. She makes no excuses for what she is or her behavior. Kinda like the orange fool himself. The difference is, she is smart and likeable.

It will just gross out republican women and make it very hard for Republicans to campaign with and for him. It will already shrink the number of new registered republicans they get.

And for the record, evangelical religion is BULL SHIT. Evangelical equals a brutal patriarchy. Evangelical men love trump. They are already into this abusive marriage and abusive sex partners shit. It is the women and young people that they have to lie to and say they have values.

She probably wants to get out of the ND agreement. Trump/Republican Party can and will sue her ass off and ruin her life any chance they get. Now that she has the best lawyers bc of the public interest, this is the best time to do so. For her, the NDA is dangerous.

Everyone wants to have the first rights to her story, book publishers, exclusive exposes. It's not her. It is this political/media machine. So, the machine who wants the rights to tell her story are paying the lawyers.

That he made her dress and talk like Ivanka, then had ter tie him spread-eagle to the bed, and take a dump on his chest.

That he's had sex with Ivanka AND Jared.

R112, No. The affair was months-long, beginning back ca. 2006, right around Barron's birth. I inferred from Avenatti's comments that the THREATS, at the minimum threats to sue her over breaching the "rules" of an unsigned NDA (or is it a non-existent NDA to which Mr. Cohen refers?!) are what are current.

Maybe, in addition to everything else, she knows Trump is not Barron's biological father.

She just wants to nullify the nda so she is legally free to speak or write about tRump and make as much money as possible. Does not necessarily mean she has evidence of crime. People will pay just to hear/read run-of-the-mill naughty anecdotes . He just wants to legally enforce this nda to prevent the many other nda's he made "associates" sign from being voided. That would allow years of shady business and personal incidents coming to light. If she had criminal evidence against him and initially accepted money to keep silent, she would be implicating herself in a cover up. Not gonna happen.

[quote]... to prevent the many other nda's ...

The other nda’s What, R132?

She’s got a huge ass

r134, uh-oh. Hope the end of that sentence isn't, "...but she couldn't last forever."

R135 and r133, You don't see the rest of that sentence in r132? I do.

"....he made 'associates' sign from being voided."

That would backfire r131.

Let's be honest with ourselves: There is nothing Stormy can reveal, no matter how salacious, that will affect Trump. As soon as the evangelicals admitted they were okay with Trump and his character, any possibility of "moral" scandal became inconsequential.

PS That said, it's probably something like audio of them fucking as Daddy/Ivanka roleplay, with them using those names.

Like so many scandals, the real damage to Trump will be the cover up.

[quote]There is nothing Stormy can reveal, no matter how salacious, that will affect Trump.

That being the case, Stormy has carte blanche, and the world can just revel in all the details of what a loveable rogue Mr Trump is. He has nothing to fear. His ratings will climb! Or not.

My god you people are certifiably insane. Role play with her portraying Ivanka? Are you fucking SERIOUS?? For the 10th time, she was not a prostitute. It was not a business agreement for cash. And if you truly believe that all this hullaballoo is about the size of his dick...that is just sad. No reputable news site or TV network would report that any more than they would report a candidate's same sex assignations in this day and time.

But the most out there guess of all is that he discussed human trafficking with her. The fuq? You could not possibly believe that he would discuss such a thing with a woman he knows rather casually? Do any of you live in the real world?

This is just about basic vanilla adultery and extramarital sex. Just like it was with Bill Clinton. He doesn't want all the deets out circulating in the ether for several reasons: his base might be offended(well, some of them), it could have an effect on his pre-nuptial agreement, and he is basically embarrassed that all of this will be recorded in the history books further tarnishing his "legacy." Try not to laugh yourself into a seizure.

Finally, Trump does not desire that women pee on him. That is slightly less ludicrous than the Ivanka role play, but it is ludicrous just the same. I know you want to think the absolute worst of him in every way, and I respect that, but use some common sense folks.

I like her. She has that "I'm a naughty little vixen" vibe that's charming and adorable. I wonder if she tried to seduce Anderson. Yikes!

Of course she is a whore. If you offer your pussy in exchange for money, you're a whore. You can offer it for viewing, or you can offer it for fucking, but it makes no difference. One of those two offers makes you a prostitute, and the other doesn't. But they both make you a whore. So that's who we're dealing with here. And while I'm enjoying her efforts to yank Trump's chain, do not forget for a moment that she sold us all out for $130k just days before the election. Further proof of what a whore she is.

Trump is a constant braggart and complainer. I expect she has little more on him than a bunch of statements made when he was bragging about his big friends in Russia and all the big deals he's doing with them.

nah, she has photos, texts (lot of them), video and audio. That's why they're so damn frightened. She's shameless, just like him. This is so fun to watch the hypocrites dance around this one. Christ would be turning around in his grave if he didn't rise out of it.

R142, shut the fuck up. There is nothing this immoral piece of shit won't do or say, so NOW you want us to exercise restraint in imagining the worst? You're a complete tool.

"nah, she has photos, texts (lot of them), video and audio."

Yeah? OF WHAT?

What specific damaging information could she reasonably, credibly, be thought to have in her hot little hands?

I think r132 and a few others got it. He must have NDAs with a zillion people, and he doesn’t want to set a precedent. It might for far worse things or just more of the same like with Stormy. He doesn’t want all his money gone to waste as well. It would be hard to fight all of them legally.

Abortion wouldn’t hurt his appeal with Deplorables.

In my hometown, Congressman Scott DesJarlais was found to have a former mistress he had pressured into having an abortion, and he was still re-elected.

R144 She sold us all out for 130K?

Do you honestly believe that anything she said re: having an extramarital affair with him would have caused the Repubs from voting for him? The "pussy grabbing" tape did nothing, but you think the idea of Trump banging a porn star would have magically changed the course of history?

"nah, she has photos, texts (lot of them), video and audio."

Wasn't one of the requirements of arbitration that she turn over that sort of thing to Trump? I mean, if I were her, I'd totally have made copies first but I wonder if that is something Trump can sue her for, now that he's admitted he's DD.

R146, we'll find out, won't we? And there won't be a goddamned thing you, the deplorables, or anyone else can do about it! HA HA HA

I bet he's a huge and loud racist. I also think the piss tape has him using racial epithets.

Or he talks about the sucker deplorables who believe his every word.

An advanced speculation has her using vid/cam while she was sitting on his face pee-peeing. The audio has him shaking his head, moving back and forth quickly, going burrrr-burrrr.

R149, actually, that gives me hope she may have something on him that's more than just gross/salacious sex. It was obvious before the election that Trump acting like a pig, being a pervert about his own daughter, having affairs, even groping/harassing/assaulting women made no difference to his supporters. So why shouldn't she take the money to keep her mouth shut--back then it seemed like a great deal. But maybe she knows or has something non-sexual on him that didn't seem significant then but does now.

Probably wishful thinking though. Chances are he's afraid she'll reveal he has a tiny dick and can't get it up anymore.

I believe they were together about 11 months. Her lawyer said no abortion...maybe she had his kid?

R142 "No reputable news site or TV network would report that any more than they would report a candidate's same sex assignations in this day and time."

Bullshit. The networks obsess over exactly this kind of shit. They reported on the little-dick Trump statues that were popping up during the campaign. They reported on the big hands euphemisms Trump and Rubio were trading back and forth. They had Ana Navarro screaming "pussy!" on their shows and daring anyone who supported Trump to object. And many of us remember well how gleefully reporters were reading the most salacious details from Ken Starr's report during Clinton's impeachment. To the point where evangelicals and housefraus were pretending to be horrified about having to explain oral sex and fucking with cigars to their children. And Ann Coulter became a media darling for saying things like Clinton masturbates in the sink.

R156, his supporters would brag about his virility and the evangelicals will hallelujah that he didn't pay for her to have an abortion.

Evangelicals have pretty much said they don't care what Drump does as long as he pushes for their radical agenda AND keeps brown people from coming here. Also, I would be surprised if whatever prenup they have doesn't allow Donnie to screw around on Melania as much as he wants. She would be the one who is expected to keep her legs closed to other men

I think you may be right, R159, with just one additional provision: none of his extra-marital affairs can be public to avoid embarrassing her and Barron. She didn't want her child confronted by one of his fucks, like Marla did in Aspen. He has a tendency to display his wandering in public for the notoriety and she wanted no fucking part of that. It would have been in exchange for turning the other cheek to his cheating.

Wasn't Melania supposedly having an affair with the head security guy at Trump Tower or Tiffany's? So there is probably a she can cheat if he cheats provision, but they both have to be discreet.

[quote] So there is probably a she can cheat if he cheats provision, but they both have to be discreet.

I doubt it. That would mean that he considers her his equal. And he, most definitely, does not view women as equal or having the same sexual liberties as a man.

Beat it, R142, you’re late for a MAGA rally.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

And hopefully, a couple million $$$$$$.

Donald Trump is being uncharacteristically silent about his affair . . . . . . .

[Bold] GUILTY AS CHARGED ! ! !

Personally, I've never trusted the guy. He's kid of an idiotic, overgrown, mentally challenged baby.

[quote]It will be history, the first time both the president and first lady have nude photos/videos!

AMERIKA FIRST!

R142 is red-tagged R2 after clearing her cookies.

Lawyers are saying the Sarah Huckbee violated the NDA. So, it is over and long as the judge is objective about legal contracts.

There's a rumor that they had a 3 way and the third person was underage. I'm laughing at the comments that she is not a prostitute. She's a pro. Trump had an affair and Stormy had a job.

Uh oh

[quote]Stormy Daniels' Lawyer @MichaelAvenatti: I have evidence Trump was "fully aware" of the threats made against Stormy Daniels

Yeah I think underage sex would hurt him.

Or being violent...

Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s had women killed. Hell, wouldn’t surprise me if filmed it too.

Whatever it is, it has to be bad. He’s usually quite shameless...but it looks like there is something shameful that he wants to remain secret.

I can’t get over “David Dennison”. How does he come up with those cartoon names?

So there ARE dick pictures?

STORMY knows THE DRUGS Donald takes. That's it and its enough.

If there are R174 you just know some queens here on datalounge will want to see them.

Actually, I double-checked, R176 and it turns out someone spread misinformation on Twitter.

Her hot lawyer did say this:

[quote]MELBER: You alleged that there was a physical threat made against your client, Stormy Daniels. Why didn’t you include that in your legal filings thus far?

[quote]AVENATTI: Ari, I didn’t allege that, I stated it as a fact. And I’m going to state it again today as a fact. It is not an allegation. Ari, you know as a good lawyer yourself, that good lawyers don’t play their entire hand on the first go-around. We have a lot of information, a lot of evidence, a lot of documents that haven’t come to light yet. Numerous pieces of evidence, numerous facts, and we’re not gonna show our hand in the beginning weeks of any case. No good lawyer would do that, and we’re certainly not gonna do it here.

r156: "Her lawyer said no abortion...maybe she had his kid?"

Avenatti said NO "paternity" anything. "Asked directly if Trump ever impregnated Daniels, or if she knew of any other children he was trying to conceal from the public eye, Avenatti replied: “Absolutely not. No.”

Here is the thing. Everyone knows they had sex without her ever confirming it. If she comes out and said "yes we had sex, several times" most likely it will cost him a lot in a divorce since most prenups have a no cheat clause.

She already confirmed the sex r179. In the In Touch interview she even provides a limited description.

R173, it is a common convention in law school hypothetical and/or exam questions to name every plaintiff with a name starting in "P" and every defendant in a name starting with "D." Patsy was bitten by Derwood's pet bunny....

When faced with 200 multiple choice questions in one day of the bar exam, those P's and D's are very useful.

I can only assume that the "PP" and "DD" in the hush agreement are rooted in that history.

He probably paid her to pee on him and claim it was "squirt".

R168 I am not you paranoid twat waffle.

Please be my guest and feast your eyes on my many other posts by blocking me the reverse troll-daring me. They predate R2's post, and they continue through tonight 3/20.

There has been no cookie clearing. As a matter of fact, I only clear my cookies once a year now because whenever I do, I cannot post on DL for 2-3 hours following the clearing.

Your time line in no way gins up with your accusation.

This is why I have so much doubt about the existence of "Russian trolls." Half the accusations are provably wrong, therefore the likelihood of the RT accusations are a probable fallacy as well. Plus the fact that if we were being deluged by RT's Muriel would have sussed them out by now with the return of red tags.

What if Melania was a willing participant in the Stormy Daniels sex games? Now, that would make this season of "The Unpresidential Apprentice" even better.

Why do I feel like this will add up to a whole lot of nothing?

Probably because everything preceding this amounted to nothing. And it's becoming fairly obvious, except to the diehard Hillary-ites, that DT will no be going to prison and he certainly is not going to be impeached. I have been trying to prepare everyone for that reality, but some still hold out hope.

The best they can wish for at this point is the possibility of seeing Kushner and some 3rd tier players being charged with improprieties.

Hey, it?

"Wasn't Melania supposedly having an affair with the head security guy at Trump Tower or Tiffany's?"

I doubt it, r161. Sounds like another ignorant reading, just as some think the "pee" tape is of Trump getting urinated on, when it's (allegedly) of his watching a bed's (that the Obamas slept in) being the target.

IOW, second wife MARLA (allegedly) had a divorce-precipitating fling with HER bodyguard.

Umm I do believe the melania affair story... been floating around NYC for a long time...

[quote] Probably because everything preceding this amounted to nothing. And it's becoming fairly obvious, except to the diehard Hillary-ites, that DT will no be going to prison and he certainly is not going to be impeached. I have been trying to prepare everyone for that reality, but some still hold out hope.

Are you saying that everyone in the media, digital and published, here in the US and the UK, who has been investigating and pursuing the Russiagate, and every single layer, judge, Democratic representative (those who have access to information that you do not have) involved in finding out the truth about our Presidential election ... all these people are simply diehard Hillary-ites and we should dismiss them?

Has Melania sues any outlets that have reported on her alleged affair? She usually only starts lawsuits against people who tell the truth.

Forget I asked, R142, R149, R183, R196. I see that you have been defending your Dear Leade up and down the thread.

r192, your stalking is tacky. And creepy. But mostly tacky.

I walked into my office today and the TV in the lobby was on CNN as always. (Grr.)

It read:

PORN STAR’S 2006 POLYGRAPH CONFIRMS SHE HAD UNPROTECTED VAGINAL SEX WITH DONALD TRUMP.

I really don’t need to see all that in the middle of my work day. I’d be happy to see Trump cuffed and carted off to jail, but I don’t need details about his unprotected vaginal sex from the news.

I want every detail including DNA analysis of Stormy’s blue dress. What goes around comes around.

Paging Ken Starr! Paging Ken Starr!

Where is that prurient Puritan now that we could use him?

She just tweeted that she didn’t have sex with him.

No, she tweeted that they did not sleep together. "There was NO sleeping."

No one gives a shit about Melanie, no one.

Stormy and the other two women act like mature adults...he acts like the spoiled child, per usual.

Maybe she collected a Semen sample from Trump. Or did a Rape kit test and has his DNA ready as proof. The unprotected sex question would make sense then. An STD could have been passed between them. He of course could not come out and say he got anything from her. She is not dumb. She has more than just her word and legal document.

Apparenlty known whore Aubry O'Day has an affair with Don Jr.

Maybe texts about his illegitimate children by other women.

But I'm hoping it's pictures of him in a gimp mask. getting his ass beat.

Two words: Micropeen and photograph.

I'm more and more thinking the theory upthread that it's all about other NDAs is true. Stormy may not know much, but let one person get away with telling what they know and the floodgates get opened. He knows what a corrupt grifter he is all the time, in every situation, and can't allow that kind of freedom. The bitch even had his cabinet officers sign NDAs.

R205 they (cabinet) are public servants so NDAs are not enforceable. Let’s hope they realize it.

I hope so, but just him doing it shows the mentality. Always NDA, always lie, always grift.

[quote][R192], your stalking is tacky. And creepy. But mostly tacky.

Not everyone is the same. I, for one, appreciate it when I'm alerted to trolls.

I also think it is the NDA issue - he now has 3 women that eager to talk. Also Stormy clearly does have pics so they must be good ones. This POS degrading the Oval Office. GOP lost thier shit over Clinton and an intern in a broom closet, this is far far far worse.

For once someone is going to make money off the asshole that never pays up. Imagine that. Go for it ladies!!

R192 So someone who holds an opinion which differs from yours, and they express it in a well thought out straight forward way is a troll?

My god what is going on with this site?

R192 is correct. It is very obvious when there is a troll or bot. Trump supporters in the LGBT community are as rare as the last white Rhino that died. Esp given his assault on the LGBT community since Jan 20/17. The truth is out - our community was Targeted by Cambridge A/Mercers/ Breitbart/and then Trump. Our AIDS/HIV funding is drying up, CDC has removed us from their agenda, USmilitary is being directed to ban us Of course any gay person that is deplorable enough to be a self loathing Gay person is smart enough not to bait us.

You can leave now R 210. We are fucking DONE with you & yr anti Trans, anti Feminist, anti ACA (which many in our community relied on) crap.

Guys, he may havw confessed all his crimes to her in an effort to impress her, he may have the world’s smallest penis, or he may have told her nothing and might have a surprisingly large three and a half incher...doesn’t really matter. Trump has to control everything, and most of all women. He HAS to be in control and he HAS to perceive that he won. Rosie O’Donnell and Megyn Kelly didn’t really do any damage to him but he hated them with the passion of a thousand suns because they bullied him. Stormy has asserted her independence and he will not stand for that.

I agree with the posters who say that he probably told Stormy things that could have negative consequences when they’re made public.

The man can’t get through a scripted speech without saying inappropriate things. Imagine the things he says when he’s in a relaxed and private environment. Why would he make everybody around him sign NDAs unless he had reasons to do so?

R212 makes a good point.

[quote][R192] So someone who holds an opinion which differs from yours, and they express it in a well thought out straight forward way is a troll? My god what is going on with this site?

R210, the poster I pointed at vigorously claims that there is nothing to T***p sleeping with this woman. But that is not all that happened. There was a pay-off, and the pay-off may be illegal and connected to T***p's election funds. There is far more to this than a man cheating on his wife. And yes, his supporters would not care about him being a cheater, but the law will not overlook an illegal payment.

The even bigger issue is that we have a President who is vulnerable to blackmail.

chlamydia

Maybe he gave her Syph! What if this is all a ruse to excuse himself of his crimes by reason of syphilitic insanity?

I wonder if he will fire Mueller Friday to deflect from Stormy Sunday.

@AC360

[quote]In a heated exchange with the attorney for Stormy Daniels, the attorney for Michael Cohen pledged his client would collect “every single penny” of $20 million due him for violating a non-disclosure agreement

@JohnWDean

[quote]Cohen’s counsel is a bit of a blowhard, not to mention wrong on both the law and the fact regarding the NDA written by Cohen — it’s really sloppy work. Stormy is not going to pay a cent, rather she will do just fine. Hope 60 Mins goes with her interview on 03/25!

@SethAbramson

[quote]Understand that the "lawyer" on the left is saying a bunch of things that literally have nothing to do with contract law. Trump was not a party to the NDA and cannot enforce it; Michael Cohen (as EC, LLC) was a party but cannot show damages. Also, Cohen has violated the contract.

Or you can watch it for Stormy's lawyer looking especially hot:

any person that would get naked and roll around with that POS deserves what they get.

R220 Stormy/Stephanie said she only knew Trump as a “silly reality TV star” when she met him. I believe that. As for fucking him...well, that’s her skilled labor.

As others have said there are probably others who signed NDAs and breaking this one would open the floodgates. She probably has video and or audio tapes that were made over the months they were together that have stuff on them that Trump thought would never see the light of day.

We have Mueller but seems like we will have to depend on the slim shoulders of these women to get rid of Trump. Disgusting.

Maybe it's a one - two punch.

For some reason, I keep getting this image in my head of Stormy and Mueller as "boondock saints".

Mueller's tattoo is "veritas" and Stormy's is aequitas" and they are both pointing weapons at the dotard.

That I would love

What she will never ever talk about is how she worked and schemed to keep the relationship going for as long as possible.

If he was not outright paying her to be with him, and she has sworn he was not, why would she choose to have an affair with him for a year or more? Was he not as gross as you all think back then, or is she incredibly opportunistic?

Opportunistic? An opportunistic whore?

No, surely that can't be.

I'm not wading through this whole thread, so maybe this point was made, but IMO Trump is upset because this is affecting his marriage. Melania, our Vairst Leddy. He's not upset in any humane way. I'd bet it has more to do with their pre-nup arrangement. There is now proof, right out there in public that he cheated on her. It's humiliating and embarrassing for her. It affects her ability fulfill her function, and it's going to cost him $$$$. Big time. Because you know they're getting a divorce at some point. If it weren't for that I don't think he'd give a fuck.

What has me mystified is why she doesn't go ahead and divorce him now. She has more leverage now because he doesn't want to draw it out. The thing is, if she waits too long, the lawsuits, the criminal charges, and convictions, etc. between the Feds and the State of NY and VA they're going to strip him of all his assets. He is going to lose his fortune. So she needs to get her bid in ASAP. I would. OTOH, I think she is enjoying being Vairst Leddy.

Vaerst Leddy's payout must be major if he's gonna sue Stormy for $20 Million.

I thought it was interesting re the point made further up—trump Was actually not a party to the NDA. So legally he doesn’t have much leverage if she wants to break it.

Granted this is just something I've read on the internet but I've read about pre nups being struck down as being too one sided and I've also read that they can expire after a certain number of years. Haven't they been married for 20 years? Having a prenup that binds her to him for the rest of her life on his terms sounds illegal.

All we need is our own Linda Tripp like person (who is either a POC or gay OR BOTH) to help Mueller and Stormy & the Girls take Cheeto out.

I want them to chip away at him BUT! not oust him until very close to 2020, proving all kinds of underhandedness by him, his family and Pence & Ryan.

I don't want Pence as president for even one damn day. I don't want Ryan as vice for even five damn minutes. I want the (please God) wonderful Democratic candidate to win by a historical landslide in 2020 because of Bobby M and a handful of Ladies of the Night.

R226, so the greatest negotiator and business man ever (BELIEVE ME!) was conned by a porn star golddigger?

OK, let's go with that.

R227 Okay. So you are saying that she IS a whore and DID receive money in exchange for services? In other words, she lied.

If that is true, she made a big mistake saying that she never took a cent to have a sexual relationship with him. All Trump's attorney has to do is show one cancelled check(or similar) and every word she has said will be deemed untrustworthy.

As the law dictates in court, if a person is proven to be a liar about any testimony, you may assume that any and all testimony is prevarication.

I don't think she lied, and I don't think she was/is a whore or an escort. Getting paid to perform sex on film is gross, but it does not meet the definition of an escort or prostitute.

Drumpf served her boiled okra after she spanked him

"As the law dictates in court, if a person is proven to be a liar about any testimony, you may assume that any and all testimony is prevarication. " Citation, R234?

It is each individual jury member's responsibility to assess the trustworthiness of all testimony.

I take it you have never served on a jury. What I printed above is standard instruction.

Do you recall one Mark Fuhrman LAPD detective? He said under oath that he had not uttered the word nigger in the last 10 years. The defense played a tape on which he said nigger several times. Judge Ito instructed that the jury may judge all of his testimony to be false that point.

They certainly were not told to assess his trustworthiness in their own mind.

you are just the frauiest little frau in frauville, ain't ya R234

I still think she knows and can prove what drugs he is on.

Perhaps Melania is waiting for him to have a coronary, she might inherit more than the payout from a prenup.

R237, you're confusing "may" with "must." A judge or juror can determine someone lied in one aspect of their testimony but find other aspects of the testimony credible. So even if Stormy lied about something, it does not automatically follow that "every word she has said will be deemed untrustworthy."

Hey, she might have proof that his vitamin pills are actually uppers. Something like that.

That is interesting R241. So the Simpson v California jurors, COULD have bought the dropped, not planted, glove on Simpson's property even though he lied about using the N word?

Not too likely though, right?

I just saw a clip of Anderson Cooper interviewing Karen McDougal about her affair with Trump; she says they were both in love with one another (gag) and she flew all over the country to his resorts and homes to fuck him.

AC interviews Stormy this Sunday.

Can we talk about the pinm elephant in the room? Yes, I am talking about...Ronan Farrow! How pissed must he be that salacious sex stories have been stolen by that other gay basic cable news fox Anderson?

Did any of you read the article from years ago in which she describes their relationship? In it, Stormy/Stephanie didn’t have much that was negative to say about Trump. I hope she drops a bomb secret about something illicit he confessed to her, but at this point I’m concerned her story will be “I had an affair with a nice old guy and he is goofy and arrogant but otherwise I liked him until he became tiresome.” That’s how the article came across; it made him sound pitiful and not dangerous.

I have very low expectations for the Stormy interview.

this is another Clinton/Tiger Woods, they always go for the bimbo types

She just hasn’t said anything incriminating about him other than the salaciousness of a president fucking a porn star. That is a historic revelation, but it’s irrelevant to his misdeeds.

Her lawyer says now that she has been shaken down, threatened with harm for speaking out. THAT would be a significant story under any circumstances, although Trump has proven too many times to count to have impenetrable armor against criminal accusations. Too much has been levied against him and then totally forgotten by all of us that I don’t see anything significang coming of this. If he does meet with Kim Jong Un or if China retaliates, the shit-Stormy will be old news by Tuesday.

It’s News Dump Friday. I expect something big to drop this afternoon with Stormy coming up on Sunday and two resignations related to Mueller this weekz

We should stop putting any eggs in any basket of accusations against Trump. He is immune to them. He has been all his career, from discrimination to bankruptcies to publicly suggesting he fucks his daughter. There’s no low too low for him and there’s nothing low enough that the public will hold him responsible for. If Stormy aborted his fetus (She didn’t.) evangelicals would excuse him without blinking. Yes they would. If he were recorded shooting up meth, he would still demand that drug users be put to death and get away with it. He has divinity-level confidence and he knows what he can get away with: he said on the campaign trail that he could murder a person on a NYC street and get away with it. He’ll probably do both. This is how dictatorships happen and that is not a caution at this point; it’s well underway. No one cares who a dictator fucks.

Mueller took down Gotti, taking down Trump should be a piece of cake. I think Stormy's lawyer is on the ball

R248, I don’t care how Trump’s followers feel about their messiah. They’re a very small and mentally ill part of our population and can’t be helped.

That is exactly what I have been saying for 2 months. The people here who actually think that this is going to hurt him in any way are too surrounded by like minded folks to gauge the actual climate.

The men I have talked to think he is more of an alpha stud than ever....it has actually boosted his cred. I've said it before and I will say it again: proof of a under aged boy or girl I the only two things which can sink him. Proof. Gossip and innuendo won't do it.

You talk to idiots then

r247, You expect powerful men to WORK for it?!

[quote] T***p

Why do you type this idiot's name like some people type g*d?

Think about it. Donald Trump is a 71 yr old man. Nothing will flatter his ego more than having a sex scandal. His only worry, aside from Melania wanting more money, is that his GOP Congress will be appalled. If the GOP Congress wasn't embarrassed by Roy Moore I doubt they will be too shocked by a Reality Star Celebrity fucking around with Porn Stars and Playboy bunnies. No one ever had any expectations with Trump Everyone has known for years that he is whorish and vulgar. I think her Sunday performance will be dull. She's not going to smear him. No big reveals about whether he tied her up and beat her etc. Maybe she will make him look like a sad clown. That could hurt his image & his ego, but I doubt it.

Trump has been a bottom-feeder all his life. He grinned his way through it and along the way found other bottom-feeders like himself that he could con. He started on bottom. He can't go any lower.

The only thing that could possibly wreck his public image would be if Stormy had a stack of cancelled checks that Trump had written to the ACLU.

R254 I see a lot of people doing this. Supposedly it has to do with searches and hits on his name and not giving him more “publicity”. Not sure tho what it really accomplishes.

Unless these women have something that can bring trump down, these are just mindless distractions I couldn’t care less about. I didn’t care about clinton’s Affairs and I don’t care about trump’s. Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Trump is burning down our country and we’re fiddling around with affairs that happened 12 years ago.

[quote]He can't go any lower.

Great. Thanks.

DVD with pee pee scenes?

Avenatti was just on with Wolf Blitzer...

[quote]The DVD contains evidence substantiating the relationship, and the tweet is a warning shot. I want to be really clear about this: it is a warning shot. And it's a warning shot to Michael Cohen and anyone else associated with President Trump that they better be very, very careful after Sunday night relating to what they say about my client and what spin or lies they attempt to tell the American people. But make no mistake about it, it is a warning shot.

Later...

[quote]What I said is, it is a warning shot. People better be honest, because the haven't been honest in the past relating to this relationship, relating to the bullying tactics, relating to the threats and intimidation, period. It is time to come clean. Basta, as they say. Enough with the nonsense.

I'm not concerned about women who had voluntary affairs with the Pig In Chief. I'm much more interested in those women who were silenced and threatened because they want to take legal action against Trump for UNWANTED SEXUAL ADVANCES INCLUDING ASSAULT.

I'm enjoying the hell out of the Stormy coverage, but I don't get Avenatti's point with the DVD. Is anyone still seriously claiming Trump didn't have some kind of affair with her? The existence of an NDA pretty much confirmed for even his die hard fans that something happened, right? Or am I missing something?

I don't think any one doubts Stormy's story at this point but i just LOVE the can of whoopass that Avenatti keeps tossing at Trumps creepy lawyers.

R234, Do you understand what you wrote? "Cancelled check"?! Cohen just needs to show proof of payment to destroy STORMY'S story? Hello?!

He would thoroughly obliterate TRUMP'S story, you nitwit!

What then? "I don't know her. Never met her. I might have met her. Once. When I gave her a check for...whatever. I give lots of people checks. My Jewish accountant gets a check. I love Israel. Iran, not so much. Obama screwed that situation up, but I will fix that, I will fix that. Am I right, John? I'm right."

Yes, r263, you are missing the point about the threats and intimidation.

And of course Avenatti knows full well that Team Trump's best and indeed only public reaction to "60 Minutes," if sense prevails, must be utter silence, lest they, in falling for Avenatti's taunting about "just telling the truth," admit to crimes.

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No, I didn't miss that R266. Avenatti said the DVD is proof of their relationship and the tweet "warning shot" that they have to stop lying about that they've lied about the threats and intimidation. He. My point is, we already know about the relationship and Trump's lying about it because of the NDA. They've stopped denying the relationship. Whatever is on that DVD is probably salacious as hell, but I don't think it's going to be anything really new or unexpected.

Urine can be somewhat unexpected, R267.

This is a non-story because no one CARES that Trump had sex with a porno actress. In fact, I would be even before he was president 99.9% of the people of the USA would have said, "Yes, I believe Trump had sex with porn actress and hookers."

No one cares that he did it and when no one cares, the story is a non-story.

As it has been pointed out numerous times, R269, it is not about whether he fucked porn stars without a condom, it's about him being vulnerable to blackmail and using campaign money in an illegal way.

A great many people, also, do not want a mega trashy POTUS. He has no redeeming qualities. None.

wonder if fug Anderson got to gnaw on her tuff old clit....

R265 Reading on a 4th grade level is charming, but it would serve you well to step up your game a bit.

Yes, it would destroy Stormy's assertion that she was never paid for sex.

" I bet it’s not a small peen. "

Not a bet I'd be willing to make, for sure.

R269, Nobody might care about the sex, but the cover-up and threats?

See: "Clinton, The Impeachment of William Jefferson."

R272, Let's compare, shall we? With a revelation of a cancelled Trump check,

Former porn actress Stormy's claim not to have been paid for sex is "destroyed";

vs.

President of the United States Trump's claim not to have had any relationship with Stormy whatsoever, let alone a pay-for-sex one, is "destroyed."

Class, can anyone tell us which "destroyed" claim is more harmful to the claimant's position?

P. S. R272, The discussion is not about what Sarah Sanders or even Michael Cohen might have "revealed." They are not Trump, who is free to call them liars.

I think R170 and R251 are on track, but here’s my take: it was a 3-way. And the third partner was either underage or a man.

Maybe Staff Sergeant Bone Spurs picked up an STD that cannot be cured?

Do we know if Stormy Daniels is being paid not to DISTRACT the media from Trumps other shenanigans. Because nobody cares, really, but the media is making this into something.

fucked that up. Is SD being paid TO DISTRACT us?

It's not the "affair". It's the coverup, the denial, but his supporters have already forgotten that he denied it. 60 Minutes better include clips of all the times he denied it. Like running it as often as they ran Clinton's "I never had sex with that woman" clip.

Her lawyer will have to emphasize who/how/when she was threatened. At most I think Michael Cohen will go down for this... disbarred? Because I don't think Trump will fire him.

The other hope is that it clears the way for other women who signed NDAs to come forward.

Having a recording/video of something incriminating/embarrassing? That's probably too much to hope for.

"No one cares that he did it...." That's obviously not true, R269, aka "Boris." What a profoundly stupid thing to state in a public forum.

There are millions and millions of voters in this country who do very much care that the President of the United States comes with such filthy baggage. The President is the head of state for this country and Trump in no way represents the best about the United States. He was off fucking a porn star and Playboy bunny - on the same fucking weekend, no less - just after his wife gave birth to his youngest son. He should have had his fat ass at home, taking care of these people in his life. If Melania didn't want him there, I don't blame her. But Trump should have at least considered his infant son and behaved decently.

Maybe you don't care about it, R269, but don't for a moment confuse your own lack of decency for a universally held point of view. It most certainly is not. There is a child involved in all of this. A child who has obviously been given ZERO consideration by his raging narcissistic father. A child who is probably suffering a world of pain and embarrassment. Especially this weekend. All of it, thanks to his dear ol' Dad.

Fuck Trump. And fuck you, too, Boris.

My main question in all this are why are Stormy and the other one Republicans? Do they really think the party of family values and conservatism want members who make their living having a camera do a close up of cocks going into their asses?

And everyone saying "I don't care about who he fucks", why don't you? Is this a new right wing tactic? Pivot away from what a lying, trash scumbag he is - because there's a big difference between having affairs and fucking porn stars - porn stars do nasty stuff for a price, and they do it all. Ignore his threatening women? Ignore his inability to stick to the law? Vulnerability to blackmail? Treating his wife like shit? What EXACTLY do you not care about? Oh right, the economy, jobs, blah blah. Don't worry he's fucking all that up too.

Indeed, post-pussygate, when no-one knew how the chips would fall, Trump made his would-be breezy 'locker-room' defence; and 'apologised to his family.'

Stormy plus others represent an entirely different category for a sitting 'President.' He and his gruesome enablers might even try to normalise this, but his reputation outside the cult will degrade further, hard though that might seem to achieve.

To put it another way, more people will have more irrefutable evidence of what sort of a 'man' he is. And every blustering would-be authoritative statement will be seen in that new low light . And I do feel sorry for his young son.

R267 If they actually sue Stephanie for $10 million, then silence isn’t exactly an option for the Trump mafia.

R282 Stormy represents true Republican values ($$$). The R party is no longer a party of family vaules; for now at least they have let that facade drop. (They will successfully raise it again if Trump is edged out.) Even fundamentalist Christians have explicitly said that Trump can fuck anything he wants as long as they have shitty jobs that pay and their retirement accounts grow. They are admitting that now. That’s a legitimate story that should be covered by every news outlet but which has only been a minor talking point.

And even forgoing alleged Christian values for monetary value has given way to a more binding underlying value: party wins. Paul Ryan, who obviously isn’t a Christian in any sense that the impoverished Jesus Christ wanted people to be, has always maintained a concinving facade of being an all-about-the-money capitalist. Well, now he has dropped that facade and advocated wasting a shitload of tax revenue on a truly purposeless wall that absolutely would not keep determined people from Mexico out of the US.

In the end, it’s just about tribalism and groupthink—on both sides. Most Democrats today are the same. We have to admit it; back when Clinton was accused not only of spurting all over his intern’s dress but also raping multiple women, no Democrats—not even Gloria Steinem—had space in our consciences or collective consciousness for sympathy for any of those women. Democrats did, as a group, act in the same way that Republicans are acting now in support of Donald Trump’s sexual fuckery.

I would like to believe that Democrats would turn on a popular Democrat who bragged about wanting to fuck his daughter or on a Democratic candidate who was accused by many women of having sexually violated them when they were girls. But I don’t believe most Democrats would. Today, even though I was an adolescent when the Clinton shit was going down, I feel guilty and ashamed for having shrugged it off as irrelevant (multiple rape accusations!!!) as long as Clinton served the country. I admit that that was wrong. Most Democrats still excuse him to this day, equivocating morally just as Republicans do. So where does that leave us?

"I would like to believe that Democrats would turn on a popular Democrat who bragged about wanting to fuck his daughter or on a Democratic candidate who was accused by many women of having sexually violated them when they were girls. But I don’t believe most Democrats would. "

I bet Al Franken would disagree with you on that point.

R286 Everyday Democrats at large, not just the women of Congress who were swept up in the metoo movement at its crescendo. (Has anyone noticed it has waned? Ryan Seacrest is a strong litmus test.)

A survey of Democrats today would find that the vast majority feel Franken was wronged and that Clinton was one of the great presidents. I feel secure in that assertion.

R281 She was not a fucking bunny(a waitress in a nightclub) she was Playmate of the Year, which is literally the every top of the Playboy world(women wise.) It may be all the same in your mind, but it's like calling a credited so star in a movie a background player.

Trump Friday announced he is banning Transgender troops. His timing is perfect to keep the press busy with that instead of the upcoming interview with Stormy. It is his MO.

What hideous thing is he going to do Saturday night or Sunday to keep people occupied with rather than watching the interview?

Gun down the Easter Bunny at Mar-a-Largo with a AK-47? Nuke someone?

R279, I prefer to think of Stormy and her sisters under the skin as half of the pincer movement, with Mueller's obviously being the other half.

R284, There will be no lawsuits, and Trump and Cohen have known this from the git-go. Such typical Trumpian posturing is for "the base" (aptly named) and the cameras.

The Deplorables don't care what he does. The Evangelicals will rationalize and say that god has forgiven him. I think this will give the Dems an additional bump up in the midterms.

I agree that nothing much will come of this for Trump himself. But it's good to upset Trump anyway, just because he's such an asshole all the damn time. And it's also good to remind anyone paying attention that the Evangelical movement and the entire Republican Party are complete hypocrites when it comes to the "sanctity of marriage." They all suck, and none of them have any business lecturing anyone else about sexual morality. Most evangelicals and Republicans are used to being complete hypocrites, but some people who are actually thinking of voting for these fuckers in November might have second thoughts about it.

Is it true that Batshit Orange Fucker never directly Twitted to Stormy? He must be afraid of her.

Look. Just because some of us believe Trump's supporters won't care if he cheats on his wife and fucks porn stars doesn't make us "Boris." As I see it the two of them had consensual sex. Anyone waiting for her to smear him or attack him , well, don't hold your breath. This was something they bother wanted. She was then prohibited from discussing it, in public, through some kind of "arbitration agreement" and the fight right now is whether or not she has the legal right to break that so called agreement and tell all. Aside from that, she was paid off. That's really the big issue. I'm loving this because it's really making trouble for Michael Cohen who I think is a rotten little bastard. It's also about the criminality of pay offs and shady deals and threats. Having sex with a porn star is the least of it.

I'm way more interested in the women who have accused Trump of unwanted sexual advances. They've been threatened too. And he should be prosecuted.

Pictures of his tiny penis?

If she had anything. It would have been known before the election. I would not be surprised if she want hired by Trump as a media distraction,simply bc the media is so easily manipulated by him ... and his supporters don’t give a shit. About any of this

Yawn, R297.

If trump gets reelected again I think I may seriously leave the country. Or at least move to NY where it's somewhat sane.

Some of you people are still totally missing the point. It’s not the sex, it’s the payoff and coverup, plus any threats made against Stormy.

Additionally, what else is has he done that Russians, or anyone, could blackmail him with?

[quote] Some of you people are still totally missing the point.

They get the point; they are just trying to sidetrack the conversation.

Eh, no one is talking about the transytroops.

Today it has all been "listen to the children" (I muted and played Baba Oreilly- I highly recommend).

What will today's attempt at eclipsing the Storm be?

The cover up of Watergate was the end for the Repubs because they were covering up a crime. Having sex with a woman is not a crime, and paying her to keep quiet is not a crime.

And R301, no some of us do not get it. We get this: you guys have been waiting and waiting for his ouster for over a year now. On a weekly basis you predict he is finally toast. And yet...nothing.

So really, it is you who doesn't get it. He is not going to be impeached or put in prison. I haven't been wrong about that so far, but you guys are batting a big goose egg.

Maybe he wanted her to call him "Daddy" in bed? Daniels said in an interview six years ago (that In-Touch never published) that he kept commenting on how much she reminded him of Ivanka.

I think the interview has been overhyped for ratings and there won't be any big bombshell revelations. I wouldn't be surprised if this is causing major problems between Trump and Melania, she probably feels humiliated and wants out Trump will have to up what he is paying her to stay and will cost him bigger bucks than what he's paying her now.

Has Avenatti implied "big revelations" are forthcoming? All I've heard him say is that we will be able to judge for ourselves the veracity of each party. We already have been told about the sex, threats, and lies; is there videotape (or a DVD)?

Get ready for Al Capone's vault 2018.

Shit. Her lawyer’s last tweet made vague suggestions that nothing significant will be revealed tonight. I hate to say it, but he is as cagey as Trump is. I’m starting to think his bluster is covering for a lack of anything substantive.

Yup. We're all going to get a wet fart.

R303 actually paying for sex is a crime in most states, so there is that inconvenient truth. I’m surprised that is not being addressed.

WTF R310? Who is alleged to have paid for sex?

The truth is, Trump only relates to whores and he treats every woman as if she is a whore . He has no respect for women...even Hope Hicks and Ivanka are just sex objects. He is a deeply sick man.

This follows the Duke-Kansas basketball game. If Duke wins, Stormy will render alarming details of a salacious and threatening saga, stirring a much enhanced firestorm.

If the #1 seeded Jayhawks win, it will be a teaser, no real shocking and new revelations. Avenatti said certain things would be held back. Thus, being titillating, but not explosive.

Place your bets.

Hopefully, she won't act coy, though smart, as she earlier did on some late night shows. She needs to offer something relatively profound.

R311 Stormy’s friend Jessica Drake said BEFORE the election and at the same golf tournament that Trump offered her $10,000 to join Stormy for a threesome. Somehow I find Jessica much more credible than either Stormy or Trump as sad as that is to say.

I bet good money that Duke will win. I also bet good money that Trump will come off as more of a harmless lovable loser than a sex crazed megalomaniac. And that will put DL'ers into a lather heretofore unseen.

[quote]I also bet good money that Trump will come off as more of a harmless lovable loser than a sex crazed megalomaniac.

Which will sit very badly with him. He doesn't know what being loveable means, but he's obsessed in his zero-sum-game pea-brain with winners and losers, and the perception thereof.

He'd infinitely prefer to be seen as a sex crazed megalomaniac, because that is how he still likes to see himself. He just doesn't want the tiresome emotional and financial nuisance which goes with it.

Of course two-scoops wants to have his cake and eat it, just as he always has.

"50 Shades of Decay."

I think what people forget is we no longer have a presidency. We have a reality show. The bar is so low now. Plus, Rethugs don't apply their rules to themselves.

GOP is a terrorist organization

Perhaps Jim will do a portrait of Kellyanne next. She has features that could offer some intense political characterizations.

GOP is certainly a lawless organization. When the law stands in the way of GOP political goals, GOP officials simply refuse to enforce the law. This marks the end of the rule of law as we have always known it.

Jim Carrey's latest:

Her lawyer is back-pedaling on Twitter right now. Unless she has video/audio of threats none of this will amount to anything.

It is very curious that Trump has never tweeted or mentioned Ms. Daniels. He must be afraid of her and what she will say tonight in her 60 Minutes interview.

Tonight's broadcast is not a matter of what she has, R323. It's a matter of what CBS corporate will allow to be broadcast.

I never thought I'd find myself semi admiring a pornstar, but hey it's the grit that gets me.

Like many, I plan to watch 60 minutes because what amuses me the most is how she's managing to upstage probably the one man who never thought he could be outwitted by a former fling.

In fact she seems to be out-trumping Trump at his own game.

About time!

Trump is a jerk and hopefully she will confirm that fact.

Well I am looking forward to Stormy Bloody Sunday, unless Trump's boss ( Vlad) kills the power grid exactly at 7:00 PM Eastern time.

Nothing. This is going to be right up there with Geraldo opening Capone's vaults.

It will certainly be less than I want.

But what I want is to see Stormy reach into her bra and pull out a handful of photos of Trump fucking a dead fetus. I'm not going to get what I want, but I remain hopeful that what we get damages him gravely.

[quote] pull out a handful of photos of Trump fucking a dead fetus.

The Christian Right will only claim Trump was trying to bring them back to life.

Will that be extra servings of chocolate ice cream for Batshit Orange Fucker tonight? Do you think Melanoma will secretly watch the interview?

Anderson Cooper is mixing promotions of this 60 Minutes interview with promotions for his gross road tour with Andy Cohen. He is no longer a serious journalist, and this isn’t going to be a seismic interview. I wish it were, but it looks like it’s going to be a big nothingburger that Cooper is just using to attract attention to himself.

Is anyone else nervous about her lawyer talking about a DVD? Whatever could be on that?

I hope Stormy isn’t all tease. People will lose interest.

Does she communicate with the 13year old that was going to come forward but then got scared (or paid) off? Stormy should reach out to her. She could be dead now for all we know.

RUH-ROH!

Looks like Melanoma already may have one foot out the door. Mr. and Mrs. Humpty-Dumpty will not be together when the Sunday night Storm blows in:

[quote]I hope Stormy isn’t all tease. People will lose interest.

Yeah, I'm concerned R335 - especially after seeing her attorney cover his own ass on Twitter.

In this environment, stuff doesn't linger. If the interview turns out to be a bust people will lose interest.

It's very much a "boy who cried wolf" scenario. Keep doing that and no one will care when one comes to visit.

Melanoma knew about the cheating. She is just mortified that it's all over the news.

Anderson cooper and CBS would both be promoting the fuck out of it if anything big were revealed. I think he interviewed the other mistress despite there being no story to set the precedent and cover his ass. Now he can say that the interview is relevant because it involves the president, but that he never promised any big reveal and he gives equal opportunity interviews to all accusers.

Of course she knew R339. Anyone in her position would encourage him to fuck a sex worker to keep him off herself.

Do you think the Clintons will be watching?

Well, maybe not Bill.

they have an "embarrassing" dvd for god's sake. It doesn't get anymore juicy than video receipts.

AC's 60-Minute Circus -

Unfortunately, this 'expose' will be a big nothing; I'm afraid it'll be an opening of 'Al Capone's Vault' ala Geraldo Rivera. Alas, this will not be the opening of 'Pandora's Box.' (Otherwise, SD would already be in the WPP.)

I must spend thank-you points within 60 days. ( ~900 points at present).

Acct number too, change?

May take 11 days before the change happens. New card due in 3-4 weeks.

I got a 1.99% interest rate new purchase thru 10/1

Need $2000 in direct deposits within 90 days of opening account.

R322, See r317.

R34, Thank you for the third (or is it 4th?) mention of Geraldo/Capone.

Look, people, Avenatti hasn't promised any bombshell. He merely said the interview will help shape our opinions of her and Trump's truthfulness. AND he explicitly stated to different inquisitors that "good lawyers don't reveal everything they have," pre-trial (or pre-hearing) regarding supporting evidence. So this interview won't, either.

The blues just made a touchdown! 12:24 left in the second inning!

Everyone got their popcorn ready???

Okay.........

MSNBC has the transcript of the 60 Minutes interview and is reporting on it now

Laura Coates, CNN Legal Analyst, is now reporting on Stomi's claims of unprotected sex with Humpty Dumpty in 2006, during which time Humpty had paid Stormi $130 grand in Hush Money.

She sparked his behind with a rolled up magazine

And then she let him fuck her without a rubber

Spoiler: Here’s the transcript to read while you wait for the stupid basketball game to end.

Anderson Cooper: A lotta people are using you for a lotta different agendas.

Stormy Daniels: They're trying to. Like, oh, you know, Stormy Daniels comes out #MeToo. This is not a 'Me Too.' I was not a victim. I've never said I was a victim. I think trying to use me to-- to further someone else's agenda, does horrible damage to people who are true victims.

Anderson Cooper: How was the conversation?

Stormy Daniels: Ummm (LAUGH) it started off-- all about him just talking about himself. And he's like-- "Have you seen my new magazine?

Anderson Cooper: He was showing you his own picture on the cover of a magazine.

Stormy Daniels: Right, right. And so I was like, "Does this-- does this normally work for you?

Anderson Cooper: You-- you told Donald Trump to turn around and take off his pants.

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: And did he?

Stormy Daniels: Yes. So he turned around and pulled his pants down a little -- you know had underwear on and stuff and I just gave him a couple swats.

Stormy Daniels: I was in a parking lot, going to a fitness class with my infant daughter. T-- taking, you know, the seats facing backwards in the backseat, diaper bag, you know, gettin' all the stuff out. And a guy walked up on me and said to me, "Leave Trump alone. Forget the story." And then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, "That's a beautiful little girl. It'd be a shame if something happened to her mom." And then he was gone.

Anderson Cooper: You took it as a direct threat?

Stormy Daniels: Absolutely.

Stormy Daniels: I was rattled. I remember going into the workout class. And my hands are shaking so much, I was afraid I was gonna-- drop her.

So how will the evangelicals respond to this revelation that one of Trump's goons threatened her infant daughter?

1. She's lying.

2. It was just a bluff.

3. It wasn't Trump, Trump would never.

4. Trump has seen the light and is a good man now.

5. The baby is better off dead than with a whore mother anyway.

I'm going with 1 but 3, with some dog whistling in the direction of 5.

^Oops, meant to say 5. The baby is better off with a dead mother than whore mother anyway.

Trump will appoint anti-abortion judges.

That is the beginning, middle, and end for Evangelicals. They don’t care about anything else.

Nothing.

can u imagine if this were happening to a dem prez?

he would be on the cross naked and bloody and dragged to his impeachment tied to the back of a Cadillac.

Right R362. Ken Starr spent $40 Million of our tax money impeaching Bill Clinton for a BLOW JOB.

Not to mention Ken Starr's investigation lasted about 4 years. Barely a year in and the GOP is complaining that Mueller's needs to end.

I'm another one who thinks this is Al Capone's vault again. She'll divulge some amusing details and tell a story or two, but she will not attack Trump personally or smear him or ridicule him. She will attack "his people" for threatening her and maybe tell some negative stories about his "organization." But I think this is going to be a big non event. She enjoys the notoriety. She'll milk this to make ore money. It ill revive her porn career. She's renegotiate and re release all her videos! LOLOL!

Again, the greatest importance of this so far is that:

1. Trump regime has not been able to kill the story foe the first time.

2. Stephanie Clifford refused to be intimidated and chose to use her voice instead of cowering with her hush money. Trump HATES women who aren’t afraid of him—see Rosie O’Donnell, Megyn Kelly and Hillary Clinton—and this will burn him up. Especially since he legally has been bound from commenting.

3. Her attorney is giving Trump a ton of shit, publicly taunting and humiliating and threatening him. No one has stood up to him like that so far. No one.

Sorry it didn’t quite turn out to be the non event you thought it would be. Go sit in your corner now, I’m sure mama has left her balalaika for you to play with.

P.S. I was addressing Misha/R365.

CBS for all the hype didn't get their monies worth. Does Anderson ever get a bombshell story? Is this the best? A 70 year old man had sex with a woman. Maybe he was 60, his salad days were long gone. Trump's ego is loving it.

Trump obviously does not love Melania and vice versa. He still should at the very least care about humiliating his children. But of course all of them (maaaaaaaaybe not Baron) would have known about this by now: Stormy’s In Touch interview has been available for a while. But he is a sick, callous fuck and his supporters truly are deplorable. I don’t love Hillary Clinton, but she was correct in her sweeping generalization of all his supporters.

[quote] E359: So how will the evangelicals respond to this revelation that one of Trump's goons threatened her infant daughter?

You forgot the ever popular “He was just joking! J.o.k.i.n.g!” The least funny man in America uses this excuse all the time.

Her udders are quite a distraction. I hope she’s banked enough money for a reduction in the future. Otherwise, as a old lady they’ll be dragging on the ground. If they aren’t already.

Now her husband is divorcing her and saying she cheated?!

So are you suggesting her profession precludes her from being monogamous in her private life?

I don’t care if she is monogamous or not. That’s irrelevant to her affair with Trump—which also would be irrelevant if he hadn’t allegedly threatened her safety and well being, and implied that if she fucked him he would get her cast on his TV show. As with Bill Clinton, it’s not where he puts his dick that is relevant to the public interest; it’s what he did to get his dick there. It reveals a coercive, potentially abusive nature.

It doesn't sound like Stormy had a lot of substance to go with. But she's making it work - and whatever she had Trump thought is was worth $130,000.

No comment about Stormy’s substance, R376, but in my opinion she has proved to have more integrity and courage than any politician or person of power and influence in the country. She has not cowered at all despite Trump’s many attempts to intimidate her.

r377 thanks Stormy. I agree you're making this 15 minutes work. I doubt you will be able to touch Trump but thanks for trying and my sincere best wishes !!

Evangelicals don't about anything Trump did personally--they only care about pushing their anti-abortion, anti-gay agenda forward.

Even if Stormy had a picture of Trump performing an abortion himself while sticking a Jesus doll dildo up his ass, they'll still vote for him.

Yeah - some real morons in the GOP (sadly)

ps: where can I get this "Jesus doll dildo" - I want it for a friend ...