Tom Brady Dragged On Social Media For Lip Kissing 11 Year-old Son

The shirtlessness doesn’t help.

I can't stand Tom Brady, but I thought that was sweet. People are so cynical.

Alex was just jealous.

I think this is one of those really divisive issues in the internet frausphere, like breastfeeding vs. formula feeding and vaccines. People are very sharply split between "it's normal to kiss your kids on the lips, my family has always done it" and "EW GROSS INCEST"

Eye of the Beholder.

What’s the problem?

Was there tongue?

What about a kiss on the hole?

I think it's gross. I wouldn't attack others for doing it but its weird and unnecessary. Kiss on the cheek is fine

I would kiss my Mom and Dad on the cheek every night before bed, up until I hit puberty. My Dad later told me that he always kissed his parents good night, until his older brother made fun of him for it, and he stopped. But he later told me how much he regretted letting his brother embarrass him. As he later slipped into dementia, I kissed him, a lot. Not on the lips, but a lot.

I don't care for Tom Brady, but I thought this was sweet, and it shone a slightly different light on the offense he took over that comment about his daughter. I'm still not a fan of his, but he seems like a good Dad.

Absolutely ridiculous.

The crazies complaining obviously dont come from Italian families

Neither does Tom, r11. LOL.

I think this is specifically a Northeastern thing. Where is Tom from?

love it so sweet tru luv

Lip action between family members is never appropriate. Cheek, forehead, top of head, air kiss... but lips is sexual.

face it. toms had so many concussions he aint all there....this is just the animal sweetness in him cumin out for his cute boi.

I don’t think it would have been that weird if he hadn’t called him back for a longer one...but that’s just me. I also probably wouldn’t have aired this for the whole world to see.

I have never been physically affectionate with family members or friends, but everybody else in my family is always kissing and hugging. Nobody in my family is having incestuous relationships, and I am also not autistic. Everybody has a different comfort level, and I don't see the big deal.

Would never kiss my dad on the lips eew gross!

They were just reenacting Call Me By Your Name.

wish my dad and my uncle alvin had lip kisssed me at that age. omg yesss

I don't think it's specifically Italian, but maybe trends more towards Catholics than WASPs. My family is German Catholic, and we were pretty kissy.

This should make Middle School fun for the kid.

I don't see a problem with it

I don't think I have ever kissed any Irish Catholic male relative.

if more lads were kissed by their male relatives, would be less war and meaness in the world!

I can understand a peck but calling him back for a longer one?

😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

No 11 yo old boy should be kissing their father like like, not to mention how long it is. Just gross.

Here's Tom kissing his dad!

Has the son presented to Daddy?

Tom kissing his coach.

"This should make Middle School fun for the kid"

Oh honey, he'll go to some posh school where everyone is named Apple or Blue Ivy.

WTF?! His son gives him a peck and Tom says that wasn't good enough, so he has the son come back and give him a big lip lock. Tom is a pedophile. Mark my words - sick shit will be coming soon that will get him locked up.

Do they also skinnydip together?

Kissing on the cheek is fine with your parents, but that kiss was uncomfortable and a little too long.

You can't really make out their ages in the screenshot, so scrolling by this thread I genuinely thought this was a picture of a gay twink couple...

A Little awkward!

I don’t get the outrage

Why can't he ask for a damn hug, a kiss is so awkward.

I don't think a quick peck is inappropriate, even though I've never seen it happen in front of me, but that kiss goes on forever. And it doesn't help that the kid wipes his mouth afterwards.

r40 The kid knows his dad is a peddy, get ready for that book in 20 yrs.

Jesus Christ, the kid was practicing CPR for school

He was checking to see if his son had started eating pussy yet.

[quote]r31 Tom kissing his coach.

Omg, why are their fingers intertwined??

San Mateo CA, r13 (not exactly "Northeastern").

That's the team owner, r31.

"So THAT'S how it is in the Brady family." - with Bill Belichick as Edward R. Rooney, Dean of Students.

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It's not a "Catholic" thing. I'm Brazilian Catholic and as said above I've never seen it happen.

Does Tom also do that to his daughter? Shit like this would give any girl major Electra complex. Same goes for gay boys.

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does he kiss girls that way too? young ones??

...........

wow, he making peddy with family members ok???

wow he loves that boy!!!!

he is fukkin tom brady and he can do dat iffin he wants.....

r50 That is a disturbing pic, he's basically using his father card for an excuse to make out with his kids

I miss my dad.

R53, why do you type like a retard?

Yea I was leaning towards being okay with it but R50 was too much. Something is wrong with him? Is he autistic? I think I read that somewhere.

R45 LOL...that's what I thought of too.

Inappropriate to say the least. So many parents/relatives give kids HSV-1 (oral herpes) by doing shit like this. *slow clap*

i see no pix of him kissin a daughter that way

tom u scoundrel!

[quote] if more lads were kissed by their male relatives, would be less war and meaness in the world!

There were a few cultures where male relatives / family friends kissed on the lips, or just near the lips. It doesn't stop war at all. They only kissed relatives & fellow compatriots, as a greeting - but would easily kill and bully anyone who was an outsider / foreigner.

Demi Moore Accused of Sexually Assaulting a 15 Year-Old Boy + Video

R60 then it would be a problem.

"Think of the GIRLS!!!!!!!"

This site is funny! Anyways, I hate Brady and the Patriots, they win too much, it has gotten old, and I am tired of my team never having a chance to win. I am also a Dad. He is very close to his Mom and Dad and Sisters, and very close two his 3 children from 2 different women. I think he is a great Dad, and loves his kids. Someone said upstream, if more Dads were affectionate to their kids, the world would be a safer place. So Fuck the Patriots and Tom Brady, and great job Dad. ( BTW I do not kiss my kids on the lips, and my parents didn't kiss me on the lips, but I have an aunt that always kisses me on the lips.

no. he's too old to be doing that!!! ewww.....

In Russia, kissing on the lips is normal among men and this has never prevented Russia from being the least civilized and most violent place in Europe.

R62 that deserves its own thread

It’s too long, and even more complicated by his being bare-chested, prostrate and being massaged by another man who seems creepily involved with the whole thing.

I never kissed my parents on the lips. When I was little, I got the type of kisses one gives a beloved puppy or kitten—the sort of affection one shows for a cute, cuddly creature you love. But, once I was dressing myself that stopped. From then on the affection was shows with arms around shoulders, and keeping me alive.

R66 Thats extra weird considering they brutalize gay people

r64 What do you know about Tom Brady as a father?

The Patriots don't win, they cheat. They've been caught multiple times. They can't win playing fair

there was a documentary? the one with the daughter acting like a brat? i didn't watch, not a fan.

R62 That video is almost as cringe-y as the one of her "dancing sexy-like" (i.e. flailing) onstage w/Snoop Dogg. Apparently, she and Bruce loved to share twinks, especially of the underage variety.

Does anyone find the “Hey Daddy” ads being displayed here as being somewhat ironic given this thread?

R62 made me more convinced what Tom is doing is wrong

Liberals are becoming the new Puritans

r74 They're a real life family and I find them adorable.

Yikes r76 and other Trump loving folks like Brady are pro-pedophilia

Smooching his dad

So I finally watch it after reading the posts and though a peck on the check is as far as you go in an Italian family unless you are planning to off a relative and then it's a full on smooch those two kisses were pretty innocuous.

I was expecting the second to be a big wet one and it was anything but.

People have too much time on their hands and if you're not a DLer there's no excuse.

I don't get what all the fuss is about.

r81 Might explain why his son is in the early tranny process.

The son did not want the second kiss. That much is evident

I hope this doesn't become a trend.

It's not even the "ew" issue - it's just a [bold]big medical risk[/bold]. Kissing on the lips can pass on the Herpes 1 virus. Even affectionately play-kissing toddlers (near the lip area) should not happen.

R66, I've worked in Moscow and around Eastern Europe and kissing on the lips among (straight) men isn't "normal" there today at all. No need to showcase your ignorance. AFAIK, it's smthg the older generations infrequently did / do (either as a joke, or as a display of big emotion during a celebration), similar to the Italians.

R79. that is seriously fucked up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he asked the kid to come back for a longer kiss b/c the cameras were rolling and the kid wiped his mouth (he's the only one of us who would have).

I don't think kids should be picked on and I find nothing wrong with this but don't put your kids on a reality show if you don't want them talked about.

As long as there was no significant tongue penetration, it's okay.

European football players are very kissy (e.g. Maradona).

But I've never seen any of them (even the Catholic ones) kiss their kids on the lips.

So it doesn't seem like the Brady family 'tradition' stems from religion...

[quote]This site is funny! Anyways, I hate Brady and the Patriots, they win too much, it has gotten old, and I am tired of my team never having a chance to win. I am also a Dad. He is very close to his Mom and Dad and Sisters, and very close two his 3 children from 2 different women. I think he is a great Dad, and loves his kids. Someone said upstream, if more Dads were affectionate to their kids, the world would be a safer place. So Fuck the Patriots and Tom Brady, and great job Dad.

You sound hot! Adopt me.

No, it's weird. A kiss on the cheek or forehead is fine but a lingering kiss in the mouth? What's next, blowing in his ear?

Liev again

Was their tongue????

Was their tongue what?

Idiot.

The Tom and Liev pictures make the kisses look far worse than they likely were. They turn a peck into a make out session.

It's the Vogelcheck way!

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* [italic]ripped fishnet tights[/italic]

As in French kissing you dumb cunt!

yes. R96. There is another photo of him at Getty images in a long white dress.

R96, no they won’t need any therapy, because 8 year olds don’t have a concept of “sexy”, adults are the ones who decide that fishnets are sexy. To children, they’re not different from any other stockings. It’s a costume, it’s fun. Nothing more.

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R84, I lived in Hungary for two years and in Russia for one year. Kissing between men in Hungary was not that common, nor was it so unusual that anyone would comment on witnessing it. OTOH, I was constantly kissed by men in Russia - by friends, by friends of friends, at meetings and conferences, and so on. No, not by all men, but it happened very frequently. Of course, it was a rare social event or work-related event that did not feature copious amounts of alcohol. In my experience, free-flowing liquor tends to erase cultural differences.

[quote] at meetings and conferences, and so on.

Then yours was a [very unique experience, R102. I worked in corporate finance there for 12 years and didn't see any men kiss on the lips at "meetings & conferences". Maybe in the entertainment & porn industries, but not in regular business or social life.

I wonder if those defending Brady would be doing the same if Brady was a mtf transexual and demaded a kiss from it's son the same way..

tom u houndog!

kiss the darlings.....

Americans and their prudishness. Giving a peck to your kid male or female is very common in Brazil. Maybe he did it because he saw Gisele's family doing it? Only idiots would sexualize this.

imagine the outrage if ricky martin or matt bomer or patrick harris kissed their son like dat!!!!

Just to be clear I could be this kid as I'm literally the son of a Brazilian man and an American woman so I speak from experience. And yes my dad and my grandpa still kiss us in the lips with a peck. Big fucking deal.

Only it's wasn't just a peck. It was a lingering, half-slobbering [italic]smooch[/italic]. The kid had to wipe off excess saliva, for god's sake.

Brazilians are gross.

This is why it's not a great idea to kiss relatives on the lips:

The problem is some people carry the Herpes virus, but are asymptomatic. Meaning they themselves don't know they have it - they never had a visible outbreak. Yet they can still unknowingly transmit it to others.

HSV is not a big problem for adults. But it might very upsetting for kids, if they get infected at such an early age.

[quote] "What is Viral Shedding? When the herpes virus is not active on the surface of the skin it resides in a sleeping state inside the nerve cells and other tissues. At times (which cannot always be predicted), the virus will become active and travel the nerve pathways up to the surface of the skin.

[quote] It is at these times when the virus has ‘surfaced’ to the skin that viral shedding occurs. Viral shedding is when the herpes virus is active and “shedding” at the site of infection. The herpes virus is considered contagious during this “active” time and can therefore be spread through direct contact with the infected area.

[quote] [bold]It is possible for the virus to be actively shedding itself at the site of infection without showing any visible signs or symptoms. This is referred to as “Asymptomatic Viral Shedding”. "[/bold]

*be very upsetting

plz tom dont spread giselle's puss herpe to ur sons!!!

[quote][R66], I've worked in Moscow and around Eastern Europe and kissing on the lips among (straight) men isn't "normal" there today at all. No need to showcase your ignorance. AFAIK, it's smthg the older generations infrequently did / do (either as a joke, or as a display of big emotion during a celebration), similar to the Italians.

Bullshit. As I remember, in the 2016 or 2012 Olympics there was a kiss between female Russian athletes which made Twitter swoon thinking they were lovers, but it turned out they were not and were just being Russians.

A football player from where I am was hired by some Belorussian or Baltic team, and local TV did a show about his life there, mentioning his discomfort about being kissed by other men, which supposedly happened a lot. They even showed him being kissed all over by a male neighbor or something.

When I was a kid, there was also some story about a Russian male tourist who got lost in the Amazon or some other dense forest, and when he was being rescued, he planted a big wet kiss on the (male) soldier's mouth. Can't find the picture but it made the frontpage in many newspapers. I did find the following picture of a "friendship kiss" between a Russian and an American soldier:

I come from a lip kissing family where no one was ever touched inappropriately. You weirdos sexualizing this are the real creeps.

I sure want a nice kiss with Tom...

I made a few critical comments above, but maybe gay men like myself should tone the criticism down? If more men did this sort of thing, even in a non-sexual way, maybe people would be more comfortable with male homosexuality. I think part of the reason PDA between lesbian couples provokes less hysteria than that between male couples is that people are already used to female relatives and friends being physically affectionate - sometimes it's even hard to figure out if two adult women with an age disparity who are holding each other in public are a couple or just mother and daughter.

R88 Maradona is Argentine, aka South American, not European.

r120 Tom isn't European either.

R119 if Tom were kissing his daughter like that there would be far more outcry I think

R106 I'm Brazilian and this is not common in Brazil. A few weeks ago there was a huge outrage in the country when a father and his 20-year-old daughter shared a long liplock on Big Brother. If someone told you this is common in Brazil, then they lied to you.

No one told me. I spent half my life between Los Angeles and Sao Paulo and speak from my own fucking experience. Bye.

this is causin quite the dust up in the media....

he loves kissin them boys.

I think a lot of you who are saying there's nothing wrong are just assuming this is a normal quick kiss and haven't actually watched the video. Let's put it this way, if, in the future, Giselle kisses one of her pre-pubescent daughters this way it will be streamed by pervs everywhere to get off.

People are crazy. Brady is doing nothing wrong, at least they are blood related. My step dad used to make me kiss him on the lips until I left for college.

R124 You're lying, dude. This is not common. Your dad and his family don't represent an entire country.

r124 Second Brazilian weighing in. Kissing on the lips is not normal in Brazil unless it's lovers.

R110 Tom and his dad are Americans, so are Americans gross?

toms brains are noodles

all them hits to the head

he jus lets it all hang out dammit.....

Maybe not I the ghetto you come from it isn't. It's very common among Italian Brazilians which amounts to about 30 million. So what's your fucking point?

R132 Dude, get over it. You're embarrassing yourself.

Every family is different and have their own ways, but this is "too much" for some people...

I wonder if Tom is overly affectionate with male relatives to try and stem some of his desire for a real male lover.

Are we sure this is Giselle's son and not Bridget Moynihan's? Isn't she the mom of one of Tom's sons?

R111 wins.

That's a good enough reason not to do it.

I wanted to think nothing of it too, until R48's pic.... Tom's hand on the son's ass while kissing him makes me uncomfortable..... Not to say anything else inappropriate goes on, but it feels wrong.

[quote] Bullshit. As I remember, in the 2016 or 2012 Olympics there was a kiss between female ... athletes

[quote] A football player from where I am was hired by some Belorussian or Baltic team

[quote] When I was a kid, there was also some story about ... who got lost in the Amazon or some other dense forest

R116, I'm glad to hear your tidbits of very interesting, but quite random info (about footballers, soldiers and an Amazon jungle survival story) outweigh my decade-long experience of actual cultural immersion.

The emotional antics of athletes are not comparable to regular people's general behavior. There's a pan-European, and perhaps even global, 'kissing' tradition among sportsmen. Below is a photo of Manchester United (British) teammates liplocked in a kiss. Hundreds of similar (annual) incidents in football and other team sports across the world. It doesn't mean that (straight) British men lock lips on the streets of Manchester every day.

Lots of men (European, South American, African, Middle Eastern, etc) kiss during big events / celebrations / out of thrilled gratitude for smthg (e.g. saving their life, scoring the winning goal in a match). It's because their emotions are overflowing. It's like the expression: "I'm so happy I could kiss you!".

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Kissing beats hitting. The kid wiped the kiss off on his T-shirt, as if grandma kissed him.

If grandma kissed the kid like that, they'd put her away. He didn't just 'smooch' him or 'give him a little kiss'. He made out with him. Giselle would have kissed Tom for an equal amount of time and in a similar manner in that situation. If you can't tell the difference between a wife kissing her husband and a son kissing his father, there's a problem.

I wonder how many football fans give their sons a long smooch while half naked?

I think a lot of people have a problem that it's not a peck, that Tom demands a long kiss, cmon that's just nasty and inappropriate.

The kid probably has no salivary glands like that SNL skit and Tom was feeding him. Jeez, people read way too much into things.

Relax, they are just reenacting Sleeping Beauty.

Yes, you're all correct, Tom Brady is an incestuous pedophile. He put this in his promotional video as a cry for help. His family is OBVIOUSLY not as good as yours, DLers. Thank God you didn't have fathers always showing affection for you like this, you never would have grown up to be the fine upstanding homosexuals you've become.

at least brady aint afraid to show the world what he likes....

like WoW....

(whuts on his computer.....

R136 He's not Gisele's son. The article refers to the boy as "Jack", that's Brady's son with the girlfriend he dumped while she was pregnant (very Catholic of him!). His son with Gisele is named Benjamin, he's 8 years old and is the spitting image of his mom.

nontheless, if he eats her puss out and then kisses his boys, he could spread her puss germs to the sons....

Like 90% of the population, I was infected with HSV-I as a baby or small child. I had my first outbreak, which was fairly severe, at, 7 during I was forced to go to school. Painful and embarassing. Even disregarding the herpes risk, I personally think this shit is odd, but hey to each their own.

Weird. How often do they engage in lingering kisses?

THIS IS WHY AMERICA IS SO FUCKED UP ABOUT SEX

Its a beautiful thing for parents to kiss their children this way.

I cant believe this conversation.

R153 come off it, its not. Im not from America originally and I've NEVER seen parents do this

has children protective services been called on tom?

It's cute when they are toddlers maybe up to kindergardeners after that it's creepy especially asking for a longer wetter kiss on the mouth, just fucking weird if your family did this past age 6, you are weirdos.

[quote]Weird. How often do they engage in lingering kisses?

I'd have guessed several times a week, if not daily.

[quote] Like 90% of the population, I was infected with HSV-I as a baby or small child.

R151, I think you mean 90% of the population gets Herpes later in life (when they start kissing multiple romantic / sexual partners), not normally during young childhood?

AFAIK, most pre-teens don't have HSV-1. There are (rare, but very dangerous) cases of "neonatal herpes" - where a baby gets it during birth from their mom's infected birth canal.

Tom and Gisele have sex with their kids. I don’t like him. I know things

^Also the spread of oral herpes varies depending on estimates. Johns Hopkins estimated between 50% to 80% of US adults are exposed to it (by age 50?). But again, that's adults, not kids.

*50% and 80%

[quote]Its a beautiful thing for parents to kiss their children this way.

Uh, no it ain't, hon.

I loved the guy in OP's video who was commenting on the kiss and saying "plus he's lying there naked too" and the reporter goes "does that make it more weird" and the hoodie guy goes "uh - yeah!" lol.

What I thought was the weirdest about it was that Tom was like "what do I get" in order to help his son with the Fantasy Football thing... and then the first kiss wasn't good enough?? Why? What does he need a big long kiss from his son for exactly? Why is he trading it for help with his Fantasy Football team? That's the weirder part. I already accept my family never touched - even remotely - in any way. So I am the opposite extreme & do not comment much on things like this because we were so non-affectionate.

r163 You missed the part where Brady was like "I want more than a peck" eewww

R160 I thought it was 90% of children, but apparently it's 75% (at least according to The Doctors site).

[quote]About 75 percent of children have been exposed to the herpes simplex 1 virus by the time they are 12 years old, and 90 percent of adults carry the virus.

Less affection. More violence!

You can be affectionate without macking on your son, R166. Not one thing would have been made of this if the kiss had been on the cheek instead of practically frenching him.

[quote]What I thought was the weirdest about it was that Tom was like "what do I get" in order to help his son with the Fantasy Football thing

Not weird at all. Tom is a Leo, so naturally he instinctively had to make it all about himself.

R165, I'm seriously questioning that data by "The Doctors" TV show, claiming such high child infection rates. They claim: "child contracted the virus because it is so common and is so easily spread, through oral secretions, skin-to-skin contact and sharing objects, such as cups."

But most kids don't share cups these days. And "oral secretions"? How exactly do you share that as a pre-teen?

The Telegraph newspaper contradicts the above claim, reporting in 2015: "improved hygiene in rich countries is lowering HSV-1 infection rates in childhood, [bold]leaving young people more at risk of catching it via oral sex when they become sexually active.[/bold]

The Washington Post also provided the following info in 2015:

[quote] "In the past, most of the people who had HSV-1 got it as children, via dry smooches from infected aunties and the like.

[quote] But as people gained awareness of the contagious nature of cold sores, they became more cautious about exposing young children to a skin outbreak. That means more and more of us get to adulthood without any HSV...."

R169 I assumed "sharing cups" was between parent and child. My parents never kissed me on the lips growing up (fortunately), but as a small child we did share utensils and cups.

As for the "oral secretions," keep in mind that toddlers put EVERYTHING in their mouths--hands, toys, etc. etc.

Also look at the link a DLer posted above about how the virus "sheds."

R171, yes, that was me who posted the info about "shedding".

I guess some people share utensils with children (without cleaning them), but in my experience most informed parents don't. Toys, etc generally won't generally transfer Herpes (unless the parent was licking it beforehand or smthg).

It seems from the reports that once people stopped kissing toddlers en masse - the infection rates went down. My ex actually had HSV1 - given to him by his mom as a baby, by smooching him on the lips. He thus had it from near birth. But his mom was from an older generation, so didn't know about the medical risk.

When he played with his daughter he kept cupping her ass. Something not right there or Tom's taken too many hits to the head

my dad died when I was five.

I wish he'd lived and was as half as affectionate with me as Tom is with his kids.

[quote]What I thought was the weirdest about it was that Tom was like "what do I get" in order to help his son with the Fantasy Football thing... and then the first kiss wasn't good enough?? Why? What does he need a big long kiss from his son for exactly? Why is he trading it for help with his Fantasy Football team? That's the weirder part. I already accept my family never touched - even remotely - in any way. So I am the opposite extreme & do not comment much on things like this because we were so non-affectionate.

Tbf, my mom was like that, but without the lip kissing part. It was playful. She's very starved for affection by her children and grandson but not a creep.

r175 I agree with the quoted poster, and it's interesting that a parenting expert was uncomfortable with that aspect as well.

I also think putting your kids on a reality show is bad parenting in and of itself. WTF?

lol

More lipstick alley psychos in this thread, too.

Just because you find it sexy to watch adults have physical contact with kids does nor mean those adults share your proclivities.

And your blood cult jesus is completely fictional.

[quote] Yes, you're all correct, Tom Brady is an incestuous pedophile. He put this in his promotional video as a cry for help. His family is OBVIOUSLY not as good as yours, DLers. Thank God you didn't have fathers always showing affection for you like this, you never would have grown up to be the fine upstanding homosexuals you've become.

LOL. Why is this even a discussion at a gay forum? There is nothing remotely interesting about this. And yes, all these pearl-clutching sissies just didnt get enough of Dad's pride or affection.

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I feel neutral about it. If the son were older, it could be more eyebrow raising. I don't have kids...and I don't see myself kissing them on the mouth if I did...but if that's the way that family is, okay.

That child is not at a sexual age, so it doesn't seem particularly sexual to me.

First Brady is not naked.

The second kiss is 3 seconds.

Even Will Hays would have passed it.

When we were kids we were often wiping kisses off after relatives kissed us.

It would have been odd to kiss one father on the lips but so would holding his hand while walking.

If today's father are more affectionate with their sons it's a good thing.

R156 Not to mention that his son is 11. Kids at that age don't like to be kissed or hugged by their parents in public, they find it embarrassing. And this boy was asked to give his dad 2 kisses on the lips in a room full of people and cameras. He even wiped his mouth after the second kiss. Any parent with half a brain would stop with this shit after seeing how uncomfortable the kid was, but Tom is a moron, I don't expect much from him.

bet he catches alot of internet grief for this odd kissing......

I wish my dad cared enough to kiss me.

He's a bicyclephile

Good thing he didn't post the video of them fucking.

The problem is the PDA shaming. Shaming displays of affection. Shaming the expression of love (in all of its forms).

Just look with how much violence movies get away with, but OMG! Kissing? Making out? There is a very thin line between acceptable (guy kissing girl) and gross and pornographic (guy kissing guy).

I hate Tom Brady for a lot of things. Him being affectionate with members of his own family, and not giving a fuck, is the only thing I like about him.

It's not just about what Brady wants though. It's also what the kid wants. Most kids don't like being kissed (especially smack on the lips) by their parents.

The kid immediately wiped off that kiss with his T-shirt. Which suggests he's not into such mouth-to-mouth PDA.

*It's also about what

Why did they cut out the part of Tom rimming him?

I guess soon they'll be doing porn together...

Everything about that scene is uncomfortable and disturbing. Lol. Surprised it didn't end in the cutting room floor. The kid is clearly embarrassed and annoyed with the kiss.

Don't single out Tom. The NFL has a history of uncomfortable and disturbing PDAs.

I never kissed my parents on the lips, but it does seem wrong trying to make something gross when it is obviously meant to be innocent display of love.

I hope they take the kid away. God knows how many times he's been molested by now.

Daddy's special treat is suckee suckee.

Reminds me of the Chevy Chase movie where "Daddy says I'm the best kisser."

this is his kid with the actress? i wonder what she thinks about this.

also, now i wonder if he's the qb in the nfl sex tape.

Many things may be harmless or innocent but LOOK bad. This is certainly one of those instances. What goes as a standard in Milan or Florence doesn't work in New England.

R199 what NFL sex tape?

Please tell

Do kisses have calories?

I never kissed my parents on the lips, but my aunts and grandmother would kiss me on the lips, even after I was a grown adult. I find nothing wrong with the kiss. I kiss my nieces and nephews on lips under the age of five . After five it is on the cheek. Kissing is a sign of real love and affection. It is comforting. I can't stand Brady( I think he is dumb, a coward , and a cheat) but I thought that was a real moment. He gets a kiss, the boy wipes it off- as any 11 year old would do-and we see a moment of love between them. I wouldn't put my kid out there in a national way, but a kiss between father and son should be supported. I agree with the person who said that's why we are so fucked up about sex in this country. If I was a father I would kiss my kids on the lips until the day I died. Affection between parents and their children, or sibling and sibling, should be encouraged. I agree that if more men kissed their sons we would live in a better world. Imagine what Trump would be like if his father had kissed him!

R200, you’re saying that Tom Brady should travel to Milan to kiss his son on the mouth?

This is Tom Brady kissing his father. It’s obvious that he grew up in a home that was very affectionate.

R201, this is the thread.

r20

Call Me By Our Collective Surname

The kid got out of there before Tom called him back for a happy ending.

All these pedophiles coming on here defending making out with children. NO PEDOPHILE WILL NEVER BE CONSIDERED A SEXUALITY YOU FREAKS!

We do need to teach kids the difference between affection and grooming for sexual assault / rape / sexual exploitation at an early stage. The reason this world is so fucked up right now is because adults carry this sort of childhood trauma with them too ashamed to deal with it and now attacking the #metoo movement because it triggers uncomfortable truths in themselves.

I know you have limited sexual experience. Pro tip: three second kiss is not "making out" even if there is tongue. Without tongue it barely qualifies as a kiss.

it is not normal. esp that picture of him as an adult kissing his father!!! WTF??

No R204, But it's just de trop

^^^^

Kevin Spacey's new defense...I was just kissing him like Tom Brady kisses his son and grabbing his ass like Tom Brady grabs his daughter's ass.

Was there tongue involved?

If no, then it's much ado about nothing.

R185 is not me. I do NOT want to get kissed by my father.

Mom's been kissing me too often, too, for my liking.

Thank God she's busy with the Tiffany's security guy these days.

I never kissed my mom on the lips, but my dad would kiss me sometimes on the lips, even when I was a teenager. I don't think he ever has since I'm an adult but he may have. I never thought anything weird about it.

The kissing itself isn't really the problem. Daddy demanding a proper kiss is the creepy thing. It wouldn't be a big deal if both act on their affection for each other. It kind of comes off as some weird powerplay move to establish who's boss.

First one is ok. Second one is weird

A long lingering kiss.

It seems that Tom kisses everyone on the lips. It reminds of that SNL skit where the family kisses everyone on the lips.

Brady kisses not only his father and son on the lips but also his coaches. Can we take a minute to imagine how this started? What exactly did he say to convince his coach? Did it take a lot of convincing? Well, maybe not, Brady isn't entirely ugly.

OP should be dragged on social media for using the dumb word "dragged."

0% chance I would turn down a kiss from Tom Brady in any situation

Me neither R224.... They'd have to tear me off "Lips" Brady if ever I got the chance! (But I'm not his son!)

no fucking way. that is disgusting. he must have herpes 100%

I think it's icky, but some families do the kiss on the lips instead of on the cheeks. Nothing nefarious about it.

I think kissing your parents on the lips is odd but I wouldn't judge this. I mean, if Tom Brady had been my dad I'd have wanted to kiss him on the lips too.

he looks pedy the way he cups his boys butt as he moves in for the kiss

no doubt

R228 exactly. I'd have used tongue, even at age 10.

Disgraceful. Just disgraceful.

Tom kisses the coaches on the mouth? WHAT???

I heard Tom also owns several Michael Jackson albums. LOCK HIM UP!

I do find it disconcerting that the, ahem, 'massage therapist' when the kid comes back for the second deep tongue in the mouth kiss starts rubbing Brady's crotch deeply and furiously like he knows exactly what to do. And notice just as it ends he's about to open Brady's fly and pull out that genormous football player tool and start waving it about like a flag on President's day.

I saddens me to see how DL has been taken over by women who see pedophilia everywhere they look.

Generally speaking, every family has either a lip kissing tradition or a cheek kissing one. Clearly Tom grew up in a lip kissing family, so he is continues that tradition with his kids from both Bridget and Giselle. The fact that anyone sees anything sexual about this is just ridiculous. As has been said up thread, you are projecting your adult feelings on the relationship between parent and child. You probably also look harshly upon a dad who bathes or changes his baby girl.

As for the kids being teased in school or online, if your dad is TOM FUCKING BRADY, no one will be teasing any of those children. Even though he doesn't get much love here, he is one of the most idolized athletes in America(particularly by males.)

Giselle is a prototypical "Mother Earth" type, so I am sure that it doesn't bother her at all. She is one to nurse her kids publically anytime they were hungry without a bit of modesty.

I have this sinking feeling that the loon who is obsessed with Woody Allen and Jeff Epstein is the one who is pushing the pedophilia narrative here.

It's a family thing

Calm down bitch, the fact that people are calling this weird, which it very much is, is a far cry from accusing him of being a pedophile

[quote]Brady kisses not only his father and son on the lips but also his coaches. Can we take a minute to imagine how this started? What exactly did he say to convince his coach? Did it take a lot of convincing? Well, maybe not, Brady isn't entirely ugly.

Omg, I always thought Tom was a weirdo!

Didn't hi wife "date" Leo DiCaprio for 5 years? Just before Brady?

I don't see the problem...

It's disturbing - a lot of people saw it as not normal (yes, in America) so it disturbs them.

Having said that, I feel there's not an iota of malice on Tom and his kid.

It's clear from the pictures of Tom doing it to his father, coach, and even the team owner that kissing on the lips isn't sexual for him personally at all. It's just something he enjoys doing with people he likes. His son seems very comfortable with him in the video even though he didn't like the kissing. There is nothing "bad" happening here.

That being said, it's weird as fuck. Almost no one does this. People on here saying it's normal are full of shit

Tom Vogelcheck Brady

LFMAO, R243! That skit is spot on. It's like they made it about the Bradys - a 3-generation family, all casually & innocuously kissing each other on the lips.

I love how they showed that even the gay boyfriend was weirded out.

*lmfao (I'm not good with abbreviations. But I promise I wasn't the one who started the WHET trend)

It's a little bit creepy to me. There's no problem doing this with your kids. I guess it's kind of sweet. But I never would have put this part on the internet

I was surprised Tom has such a nice relationship with his kids. He thinks so much of himself, I was pleasantly surprised he makes time for his kids

R237 You must have not read all the comments. The word pedo and pedophilia were used no less than 25 times.

[quote]R235 I saddens me to see how DL has been taken over by women who see pedophilia everywhere they look.

Why do you immediately blame something you don't like on momen?

R248 "women," not momen

The kissing is unusual, but not nefarious

What is creepy is the demand of a ‘better’ kiss as payment for a favor...

Because of Eve and the Original Sin, R248. That wench gave every female a bad rep.

oh and i saw something in the newspaper that wife said, "back then, brady was gay to me" It was in the new york post!

We're all sensitive people

With so much to give

here's the link. she said "he was gay to me..."

The people saying "this makes me uncomfortable" are really saying "I wish I had a dad" or "I wish my dad loved me".

R237 is a verified idiot.

He's gay to me, too.

Who’s the cunty Frau broadcasting from 1968 pushing the tired notion of boys ‘turning’ gay because daddy didn’t show them enough affection?

Shucks, I'm still waiting...

I'm not a frau and my father showed me no affection and I'm queer.

So they got it right in '68.

Isn't Tom Brady's kid half-Brazilian? The Latin cultures are very kissy casual. French, Portuguese, Spanish... bise bise

r261 No this kids mama was the one who poked a whole in the condom and pissed Tom off, not the Brazilian

Those cultures don't generally kiss on the lips either, R261. The "trois bises" culture in France is 3 kisses on alternate cheeks.

Do we know Brady even wears condoms? He's so cro-magnon it makes you wonder.

R262 she didn't poke a hole in The condom she went got it out of the trash and put the semen in her vagina with her finger.

And we know this how?

I thought the video was creepy. Like, really creepy. But I won’t bother to articulate why because I feel like it’s not worth debating.

[quote]I'm not a frau and my father showed me no affection and I'm queer. So they got it right in '68.

Thank you for sharing that heart-rending anecdote. However, empirical studies long ago discredited the distant father theory.

The lip kiss is not my thing but whatever -- it's the "come back, that wasn't enough" that doesn't sit with me. I'm very anti kids having to give affection to adults just because they're family. I have always hated that "give Aunt Susie" a hug shit. You can't leave the table until you give me a kiss and all that makes me rage. I'm sure people have different reactions based on their own life experiences, but that was the button for me -- not the fact that it was on the lips.

he does have guts

to go public with his peddy desires.

his noodle brain damaged, poor guy cant filter stuff no mo....

This is all they got? Dragging his kids through the cesspool of social media? Trying to get in his head before the SB I guess. In case you have NEVER watched him play, he is the king of cool headed leadership. Particularly in the fourth quarter when they are behind a touchdown or two. Almost unstoppable. This just makes me want the Pats to win. Leave his kids out of it, assholes.

Gee I thought gays on DL would be way beyond this weird creepy pedo bullshit.

I so hate this homo heteronormative crap.

We need to have the right to marriage taken away from us. We're becoming worse than breeders.

Shame that "cool headed" leadership never pushed him to play without cheating.

Silly, silly Earthlings. Tom Brady is 40 years old and realizes that his playing days are numbered and that his body is wearing out. That wasn't a kiss. He was looking for a new host.

That's hilarious, r272.

if my daddy had kissed me like that i wouldnt be so fukd up

tru luv

Hardly R255.

Notice how almost no one posting here says they kissed their dad on the mouth? Everyone just says they know some other culture that does. It's all bullshit cuz no one kisses their kids like that

R277..... Have seen Italians do it, but younger children. Still gross.

[quote] Leave his kids out of it, assholes.

Wasn't Brady the one who put this unnecessary video out for the public's attention? Maybe [italic]he[/italic] should leave his kids out of it.

R270, Tom brought his kid into it, dummy. The world is topsy-turvy, y'all. Conservatives love their pedos (Ray Moore, kid-kissing Tom Brady) and are now hate law enforcement (now against the FBI). What next?

[quote]As has been said up thread, you are projecting your adult feelings on the relationship between parent and child. You probably also look harshly upon a dad who bathes or changes his baby girl.

If the daughter was 11, I sure as hell would look harshly upon it. If it was his baby son and he was smooching him on the lips, that's another thing entirely. This is wrong. It would have also been wrong if the boy was made to kiss his mother like that.

The fact that he's laying down, being massaged, and is shirtless just makes it even worse. If you put a woman in the boy's place, it's a sexual love scene.

what do the straight sports fans say about it?

Just watched it again. Weird but I thought about a lot of the comments saying "I wish my dad loved me like that " and so on. I find it sweet is that the kid will still do it. He most likely is right at that age where he isn't going to want to show affection like that and Tom is probably trying to enjoy the last bits of him be a little kid (and not in any sort of sexual way) Instead of those comments I wish when I was a kid I loved my dad that much that I would do that in front of other people. My dad scratched my back and did so for years (because it felt good and most people won't do it) and a boyfriend at the time freaked out and carried on that it had some deep sexual under tones. What kind of bullshit are people thinking these days?

Most straight men would trade places with young Jack in a second. No joke.

I can't tell you the number of straight guys I've heard say some variation of "I'm not gay in the least but I might have to make an exception for Tom Brady."

That was for R282.

[quote] back then, brady was gay to me

Really? Tom's pregnant girlfriend at the time should have been a REALLY, REALLY big tip off to giselle that Tom wasn't gay

I loathe that ignorant, narcissistic "look at ME, look at ME" Giselle. She's utterly disgusting. If ever there were two self involved cunts that deserve each other, it's tom and giselle

R286 she only meant that, since he was involved, she viewed him the same way she'd view a gay guy--off limits.

I often use "gay" when I mean "unavailable". " I know you want to rent this apartment but it is currently gay."

Stop trolling for a fight.

I think it's sweet but I did involuntarily shiver when I saw the second kiss.

Did anyone read that book called The Gift of Fear? It says that when you get that weird feeling, that little voice telling you that something is off even when you can rationalize to yourself that everything is probably fine, trust the little voice. A whole lot of little voices from people across every social, political, and sexual spectrum feel that something is wrong with this.

Tom is weirdly touchy with his kids and his father is weirdly touchy with him. Just because they both do it doesn't mean it's right. In fact, it could very well point to something being very wrong across a couple generations.

R291, you’re nuts.

nobody I know, kisses their dads or coaches on the mouth like that! esp when you're a grown adult!!! Maybe he is gay.

I don't think gay guys generally kiss their fathers on the mouth

Many DL sisters would love to kiss Tom 'down there'!

Would you?

What fresh hell is this? Something is seriously wrong with this man. Poor boy he looks embarrassed and disgusted. "Everything comes with a payment"? REally? This guy is a psychopath. And R293 is an idiot homophobe.

I think it's odd but, in Tom's case, not sick. He grew up kissing his dad on the mouth! And does, to this day. OK....

I have friends who give a quick "smack" (they call it) to their parents. Mouth to mouth, but not so prolonged as Jack's with Tom.

anyone having issue with a FATHER kissing his SON on the lips no matter WHAT age , has issues.

And is why American culture is a war culture not a loving one.

These comments are sad.

Would one f you pedo accusing fraus please explain to me how his kissing his coaches and Robert Kraft is an indication of his and his father's kiddie loving tendencies?

Isn't it OBVIOUS that he is inappropriately affectionate with those he loves, but he is NOT a pedophile? One weirdness does not equal a crime.

[quote]R291 trust the little voice. ...[this kiss] could very well point to something being very wrong across a couple generations.

That is a huge supposition.

My little inner voice is telling me you're a drama queen.

It’s probably Brady’s own dad that started this mouth-kissing, Herpes-transferring tradition.

Did Pops Brady kiss his QB son on the mouth when he was a kid too?

R299 is right. Does anyone think Tom has sexual feelings for Robert Kraft. This is fuckin weird for sure but doesn't seem to be sexual

I don't. Kraft was widowed 4 years ago, and after a decent amount of time, he hooked up with a hot blonde piece who is about 38. He has stated many times that Tom is his "other son." They face time weekly during the off season, and he and his hot piece take exotic vacays with Tom and Giselle.

I agree that TB is waaaay more touchy feely and over the top affectionate than a man of 40 usually is, but I think that all the critics are completely off the mark in thinking sex plays any role in this.

Doesn't anyone remember when Will Smith kissed Jaden on the mouth on "Ellen?" The black Twitter community had a cow over that just like the white community is overreacting about this.

You know if Trump wasn't in the White House, and desperate to retain one of his few genuine celebrity supporters, he'd have tweeted his outrage by now, sort of like he did when Stewart cheated on Pattinson.

r204

My dad kissed me on the lips

Irish Catholic family, grew up in the 70s and 80s, and I used to kiss my parents on the lips. I don't remember how old I was when I stopped but I would guess that I was still doing it at 11. When I'd go to bed as a kid, I had to kiss then both goodnight. It never bothered me until I mentioned it to my best friend and he got all weirded out (like the majority of you), so I decided it wasn't cool.

I thought the clip was sweet, and see nothing wrong with it, but my family was very similar. I don't really get the uproar.

Kissing a parent is one thing. Brady’s “that was just a peck” was a red flag. Kissing family on the lips should be just a peck. Lingering mouth kisses between parents and children is unusual. The remark about “payment” is even more bizarre, and having trained his son to come back and give him an undeniably sensual mouth kiss while he is lying naked or partially naked is not normal; whether or not a mental health professional would say it’s healthy or safe or not is beyond me but I am inclined to think many would say it suggests a relationship dynamic that should be more closely examined.

The kid’s innocent reaction shows that this is an everyday, normal thing for him, as if he is trained to kiss his shirtless, reclining father and then playfully come back and give him a more pleasurable kiss. I’m not normally one to buy into “slippery slope” theories, but this is...creepy.

Never saw Irish Catholics kiss on the mouth. You're lucky if you get a hug.

If something gives you a little shiver inside like it would many heterosexuals seeing two men kissing and embracing in a movie or in public they know that it is really wrong.

In other words you are totally full of shit.

R309 Don't compare actions between two consenting adults between things between adults and children.

My brothers and I never kissed our parents in the mouth, that was considered a sin....according to our strict Catholic parents. But, hugs and a kiss on the cheek was considered okay. I was very uncomfortable watching Tom kiss his son on the lips for that long. I’m still bothered by that.

It really is the “come back and make daddy feel good as payment” reaction to the first kiss that makes this most disturbing. But the length of the second kiss is disturbing. And the shirtlessness.

I’ve got a feeling Milo Yiannopoulos saved that video in his favorites folder.

I didn't grow up in a "kissing family", but I have friends who did. I think people are over reacting but, it seems like this is normal for Tom's family. It's not sexual to them and just a show of affection.

Nothing wrong with a father and son having a sweet, innocent, delicious kiss.

I wonder if NAMBLA has offered Brady a paid endorsement deal yet.

no, I don't think that R291 is nuts. I've read the Gift of Fear and it's helped me a lot.

However, I don't see anything uber-creepy about Tom kissing his kids.

It sure beats the alternative of dads who abuse their kids emotionally and physically; mine died when I was young and I can't swear he would have been okay with a gay son.

As far as Gisele (sp?) goes, I did think it was funny when she yelled back at someone taunting her over a lost game: "my huzband cannot throw AND catch the ball!"

his teammates were probably pissed but she had a point. Plus, they can't always win.

Giselle had no point, R316. Insulting her husband's work colleagues in public wasn't a smart thing for her to do.

Until there's tongue involved I wouldn't worry. I thought it was odd at first but after a day of it sinking in, it's sort of sweet.

[quote]Giselle had no point, [R316]. Insulting her husband's work colleagues in public wasn't a smart thing for her to do.

???

That it wasn't a smart thing to do doesn't mean she didnt have a point. Clearly her point was that Brady can't win or lose by himself, it takes the team. But you're right that it wasn't smart for her to say it in the way she did.

Get ready everyone: I fear there shall be all kinds of inappropriate kissing later tonight!

Think Tommy will try to smooch the ref after he's caught cheating?

DON'T KISS ME!!!

It's astounding how so many here are completely missing the point and justifying this. It's not the kissing per se. It's the fact that the boy is too old, the kiss was too long, was manipulated into giving the second longer kiss. Also does it follow that it was a sexual act? No. But it can be humiliating for a 11 year old to share this with the whole world. It's definitely not innocent nor healthy.

Tom Brady = America's quarterback

Bill Cosby = America's dad

People that seem innocent and innocuous are sometimes the worst of humanity. None of you have any idea what Tom Brady is really like but people from cultures all over the world have commented that this is disturbing. There may not be anything there but, then again, there may be all kinds of hidden crap there that a lot of people are picking up on.

I put this in the category of fraus you breast feed their 10 yo's, dumbass parents who need to learn some gotdamn boundaries with their kids.

if he was ugly, people would be grossed out

What's too old? What's too long? I didn't realize we had established acceptable standards on kissing. Frankly I think the people missing the point are those interpreting a kiss as something sexual rather than something affectionate.

R324 The thing that makes this most seem like it's non sexual and not abuse is that the son seems very comfortable around his father. He walked into a room where his dad was undressed just to ask him for help with fantasy football. He doesn't seem happy with the second kiss but doesn't shrug away or act like someone who has been abused. This is still weird. But the kid seems fine.

Well my father was a cold unaffectionate mean SOB so calling him back for a 3 second kiss on the lips(3 fucking seconds idiots) seems nice to me.

You morons act as though he's putting his son's hand on his crotch. Which was what I was expecting from what you old gossiping biddies were saying.

Maybe people from cultures from all over the world should be concerned that children be treated a lot better than they are and not looking for commies or pedos under every blade of grass.

r328 He's fine because he's been trained to just accept it, kinda like people who have been molested are just used to it at some point.

[quote][R328] He's fine because he's been trained to just accept it, kinda like people who have been molested are just used to it at some point.

Dear God.

Some of you need a hobby.

Abused kids may not fight back R330, but they don't enjoy being around their abuser, just the opposite.

The bottom line is this: if he was a sexual deviant, he would be eaten up with guilt and remorse. He seems like a well raised son, so I do not think he is a sociopath. Now why for the love of god would someone who knows they have a problem choose to give huge, broad hints to the problem for all the world to see?

I mean when I was an alkie, I would go to great lengths to hide my drinking from everyone. His openness with the affection demonstrates that everyone in the family is comfortable with that level of affection, and it probably came as a massive shock to Tom and Giselle that so many people found it to be odd and inappropriate.

I do not think that kissing your 11 year old son is on a par with a mom nursing a 9 year old. Absurd.

Jesus Christ looks like NAMBLA members have found datalounge.

Would all of you have been okay if Brady had been kissing his nephews that way? His friend's 11 year old son? Brady seemingly kisses everyone that way from his dad to his coaches to his teammates to his son, so where's the line where you think it's not okay anymore?

The son gave him the kiss he wanted to give his dad the first time. The second time was not the level of affection the son wanted to share. That alone is disturbing.

[quote]Now why for the love of god would someone who knows they have a problem choose to give huge, broad hints to the problem for all the world to see?

Because Tom Brady is a spoiled dullard.

[quote]The son gave him the kiss he wanted to give his dad the first time. The second time was not the level of affection the son wanted to share. That alone is disturbing.

LOL.

He kisses his kid and all the sudden he's Jerry Sandusky.

He cheats, lies and supports Trump and suddenly, he's Devin Nunes.

It's astounding and shocking how many people would justify something that's so obviously not right. It's not the kiss per se. Lots of families kiss on the lips. It's the fact that the boy is 11, a bit too old. He was called for a second kiss, which was inappropriately longer and was manipulated and on top of it that moment shared with the world. We will never know the intention behind this but it's obvious that there's something not normal about it. Maybe it's affection, need for control, subtle humiliation. Powerful narcissistic people are very prone to do something like this because they know only they can get away with it. Poor boy is going to be ridiculed for this. Most 10yo won't even hug their parents in front of their friends. How do people not see that this is inappropriate in the least? I don't think it's sexual but on the face of it there something very wrong about this.

i can't believe some of you actually want to kiss tom brady. he is fucking ugly. raise your standards!

He is R340 But some are into the dorky look

Americans are fucking uptight. Relax, it's a kiss between father and son.

Such drama over a kiss. A whole thread of histrionic Frauen and Patriots haters.

[quote] Clearly her point was that Brady can't win or lose by himself, it takes the team.

R318, no, her "point" was that the receivers, who Brady was throwing the ball to, were a dismal failure and slackers. She blamed the receivers for everything, and not Brady.

Her "point" was very superficial. A receiver often can't catch the ball correctly - if the QB throws it a bit inaccurately. The offensive game wasn't going well for the Pats - and she decided to publicly throw the receivers under the bus, just to make sure no one was blaming Brady.

[quote] Giselle: “You have to catch the ball when you’re supposed to catch the ball. ... I can’t believe [the receivers] dropped the ball so many times.”

^Oops, above was a reply to R319.

Do you guys think Brady and Aaron Hernandez kissed each other on the lips?

May I please kiss Tom on the lips then all over?

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R346 If Aaron had any say in the matter, they did a lot more than that.

Brady never sucked the air outta those footballs during deflate-gate either..... He was just practicing his smooching skills.

Who's Tom Brady's roommate at away games?

Brady's got a BIG sleepover planned tonight for all his mates: Gronk, Timberlake, Tebow, Rodgers, and BOTH Mannings!

Tom's cock and ass.

Lickable, front and back.

"Kiss Uncle Gronk like you mean it."

Glad the Eagles won. Did you notice that Nick Foles, the Eagles quarterback, was able to resist making out with his baby during the whole celebration?! Amazing.

Hey Tom, this is how you kiss your children. Cheek and forehead. Cheek and forehead. Say it over and over...

Sad, sad gay boys on here writing detailed paragraphs about how wrong Brady is and about what’s wrong with him. Anything more than a few sentences gives you warning that an armchair psychologist is speaking — and coming across as a loon.

R317, of course it was WRONG of her to only defend her husband -- but tell that to her!

and Tom DID miss a throw in tonight's game (granted it was a bad one)

See? Now that Brady is a loser and a choker, no one gives a fuck about the kiss anymore.

Again-there is nothing wrong AND EVERYTHING RIGHT about a father kissing his son. PERIOD!

Anyone who thinks otherwise has issues.

END. OF. DISCUSSION!

Now back to your bibles.

R360 I don't think tom is actually a pedo, but thats the stupidest post Ive read in weeks.

DL has been overtaken by mentally ill fraus. That's all there is to it.

I thought it was sweet.

You know that is not even his biological kid, right?

r364 ? You think Bridget was lying?

R365, sorry, wrong thread. Lol. I don't know, but it's creepy to kiss your kids like that!

God R366 how did you people grow up???

tom is not well

years of concussions have made him unable to know right from wrong

glory and fame for what....

What a tiny cock.

its his fat asshole that giselle wants, and gets when her strapon is hungry....

cant u hear his brain damaged ole voice yelling like a stuck pig?

tommy will need lots of son snuggling/smoochin after the big loss huh......

lots.

Tom's son after they lost: runs and hides under his bed.

What has the world become when even fathers and sons are condemned for being affectionate?

The most fucked up thing is you don't even realize you agree with the views of homophobes who cry fag at any touching between men.

meanwhile Alicia Silverstone is chewing and vomiting food into her kids mouths. Did we forget about this lesbians?...

R366 A very convenient coincidence

Something that just occurred to me: In today’s world of celebrated narcissism, where straight and gay people alike publicly get off on Instagramming images of their own bodies and clearly lusting after themselves...does this increase the level of danger that parents who want to fuck themselves will be attracted to their own kids if their kids look enough like them?

Omg I come from a South American catholic family and there is lots of cheek kissing but absolutely NO lip kissing. Very strange imho not cute.

Tom made his son give him an extra-long kiss to check his fantasy football game stats. I wonder what the kid has to do to get a Playstation console.

He took Daddy's ____ like a good little boy

It's wrong... It should be a daddy-daughter kiss..

tinymeat Tom jealous of sizemeat Nick?

Tom forcing his 11-year-old son to kiss him twice (in front of cameras and a massagist making creepy comments while he's lying down half-naked) when the boy clearly didn't want to, Gisele getting drunk while her 5-year-old daughter is on her lap... I wonder if they also have sex in front of the kids since boundaries is not part of their vocabulary. They're super Catholics aren't they?

R383 “In front of” / “with.”

Tomato / tomahto!

[Quote]imagine the outrage if ricky martin or matt bomer or patrick harris kissed their son like dat!!!!

Perish the thought. Frankly, they're lucky we even allowed them to adopt.

[Quote]AFAIK, most pre-teens don't have HSV-1. There are (rare, but very dangerous) cases of "neonatal herpes" - where a baby gets it during birth from their mom's infected birth canal.

No, in some groups the rate is very high for kids. During the bris (circumcision) ritual, the person performing the circumcision will actually use his mouth to suck the excess blood from the newborn's wound. Many infants have contracted the virus in this way. Every few years, they'll be a news article about some infant that died after contracting herpes during their circumcision.

This is one of the funniest threads in a long time!

r379 W&W

what does W&W mean r388?

R389 "Wit & Wisdow", DL's version of the "like" button.

W&W = Wit and Wisdom F&F = Freaks and Flames.

R379's post is more sinister than it is witty.

Do we need a Sinister & Sneaky button?

We need a CBG button to weed out the racists, sexists, antisemites, homophobes, lookists, and ableists so they can be properly executed for their ongoing crimes against actual humans.

Narcissists who want to fuck themselves should not have biological children for reasons made obvious in this video.

Where do we see the W&W posts?

You can’t really see them. And they don’t do anything for the person being WW’d. DL is fucked up in that way.

[quote]WTF?! His son gives him a peck and Tom says that wasn't good enough, so he has the son come back and give him a big lip lock. Tom is a pedophile. Mark my words - sick shit will be coming soon that will get him locked up.

That was HARDLY a lip lock, Hyperbolina.

I thought it was cute how he wiped his mouth with his shirt. Was it excessive? Sure. But I think Tom did it to get THAT reaction from his son. All this indignation is...typical tho.

Depending on your browser, you may get a 1 time notification that a post was WW'd (but never if its FF'd)

Tom can’t be called a pedo based on that video. That wasn’t sex. It was really unusual though. My sister works for child protective services, and I guarantee that if a neighbor or teacher reported a father—an anonymous, unfamous person—for this behavior, with the same situation caught on video (getting rubbed, shirtless, masseur’s weird comment about nothing being free, the father making his son “pay” with a lingering kiss), it would trigger an interview with the parents to determine whether the child may be endangered.

Was I the only one whose parents could be affectionate without crossing the line?

That lingering kiss was all of about three seconds

My mother was very affectionate and we are extremely close to this day. Not once ever did she kiss me on the lips. I think I remember asking her about it when I was little and she said family doesn't do that.

My mom woke my sister and me up every morning by scrating our backs, arms, legs and talking quietly to us. It was lovely. And my dad used to lie on the floor at night and my sister and I would massage his back (by sort of “karate chopping,” not sensually rubbing) while we watched TV. We had affectionate contact with our parents, but never any kind of intimate contact. We always said I love you, but we never kissed on the lips or sat on anyone’s lap and got groped, etc. No one ever thought about or discussed where “the line” was because...I mean, we had parent-child relationships and nothing sensual. I can see where as an outside observer some body language can look suggestive when there’s nothing weird going on...but then some is characteristically creepy, particularly when paired with suggestive language.

It’s not normal for a father to caress his daughter’s waist the way Trump is seen here doing, for example. Paired with his many comments about her beauty, that he would date her, that she has a hot body, etc., that’s “time for an investigation”-level evidence.

The video of Brady isn’t creepy just because of the kiss but it is because of all the elements—he’s partially unclothed, he tells his son to do something more pleasurable to him, there’s the comment about everything coming at a cost. It’s not the kiss itself; it’s everything together.

I thought it was innocent and cute. Some people are just being shady.

If people hates the idea of incest, then how come incest porn and incest erotica is so popular?? This people are projecting their own issues to a totally innocent father-and-son moment with their malicious minds.

R405 There is a difference between two 20-something guys playing the role of step brothers or brothers, and a 40-something father being sexually intimate with a pre-adolescent son. A whole world of difference.

Who did you lose your virginity to?

...Daddy

Just like me

“I see nothing wrong with a little parent-child action as long as it’s not both parents at the same time. That would be gross.”

[quote] No, in some groups the rate [of Herpes] is very high for kids. During the bris (circumcision) ritual, the person performing the circumcision will actually use his mouth to suck the excess blood from the newborn's wound. Many infants have contracted the virus in this way. Every few years, they'll be a news article about some infant that died after contracting herpes during their circumcision.

JFC, R386, the discussion upthread was about Herpes exposure risk among regular kids in the developed world. Not about the developing world, or groups that still perform unhygienic rituals in the developed world.

And also - TMI !

R360 guys hate it because they never got it from their dads.

I wouldn't kiss my kids like that or have them kiss me like that, but then I don't have kids.

Clearly from the way Tom Brady and his father kiss, they are a kissing family, therefore nothing weird about it for them. While I don't feel the kiss was wrong, filming it and putting out for the whole world to see was wrong. Very wrong.

Lord, people. You act as if Tom had stripped off his towel and made the kid kiss his cock.

Put it in perspective. The boy gave his dad a tender kiss on the lips, not a rim job.

Sorry, but that’s so yucky!

And how about Tom kissing his dad, his couch, his team owner, his wife (oral sex included) and then kissing his kids on the lips? How about the STIs that the kids might get? This is not only embarrassing for kids after a certain age but it's also dangerous. Do they tongue-kiss their pets as well? The Bradys are a fucked-up family.

You have a dirty mind.

Vous avez un esprit sale.

R415 = Tom Brady

Brandi Glanville (RHOBH, Celeb BB US) said last year she sleeps naked with her sons, ages about 8 and 10, and still wipes the 8 year-old's behind.

And DLers think she's fabulous, darling, fabulous.

Such hypocrisy.

My opinon? Really gross and inappropriate. He's lying there naked and he wants his son to mouth kiss him. And from the tone of his voice it sounds like it's a turn on for him. And the kid is obviously uncomfortable doing it because he wiped his mouth after kissing naked Daddy. This is disgusting!

what in heck does tom ask his son to do if he wants to make a Toys R Us run???

R406, sexually intimate!?! Oh honey, all this time you've thought that's what being sexually intimate was? That's so sad.

i saw some of the video, the kid was in the toy store earlier wanted a toy, that was 70 dollars. he was with like a nanny or somebody and was told they don't have the money. so the kid goes to talk to Brady, Brady is watching videos and he's explaining to the kid abt the videos etc. Brady then says to the kid,"70? that's a lot of chores..." he makes his kid do chores for toys.

I first saw this video of him and it gave me a positive impression of him, I usually hate his cheating ass. But then I saw the kissing video and was just disgusted.

I get that the kids probably all have to do something to get something...at least they are not spoiled. My own nephew and nieces are spoiled rotten. I fucking hate them.

Better thread.

This is some White people shit.

[quote] This is some White people shit.

Why? Wouldn't it be just as disgusting if it were two Asians or two blacks?

The poor kid will be deflowered by Tom.

Aw. Sweet kid.

This topic is a great base for my nifty.org monthly submission

I dont think its only obscene. we dont really see if Brady got a chub.

Fucking sick.

...and AFTER you KISSED me, I ALWAYS used to WIPE my MOUTH! WIPE. MY. MOUTH!

For Christ sake, it is just a kiss.

Just a kiss? He damn near slipped him the tongue.

I bet Tom is mad at the person who videotaped that and finally got his wife to demand he stop forcing his son to blow him for video games

I wish Tommy was kissing me instead...

r430 Well, that escalated quickly - -

Sons should kiss their father's more often. I see this all the time in porn.

You guys are projecting your daddy issues. What’s the matter? Dad didn’t hug you enough growing up?

It was a tender kiss with no malice behind it. In many Italian and Hispanic families the men kiss the mouth.

R437 is why they hate us.

The DL is not letting me post a new thread for this, so this is the most relevant place to post it. Here's an Instagram photo of Tom's kids suggestively appearing nude.

I defy you to find any shrink who thinks that's normal, its an obvious sign of pxxxxxxxxx. can he be my daddy?

Yuck....And Tom saying "what do I get" sounded kinda pervy too...

R440----Oh my God----That photo was kind of pervy too! What the hell is going on in that home?

wonder what they would find on bradys computer.....he don't seem right.

So THAT’S how it is in their family.

Tom's dad initially wanted to be a priest. Just sayin

and still kisses his son tho he is a teen!

[quote] and still kisses his son tho he is a teen! —ugh

Yes. He should reevaluate his tolerance for the non-fresh.

she so brain damaged from her sport, she not know whats whut....poor bitch

Tom Crean sees nothing wrong with kissing your son.

He not hide his pervyness....wild.

Lets hear it for brain deadedness!

Your never too old to kiss your father. I’m 32 years old and I kiss my dad on the lips. We even share a bath on occasion.

R453 I'm only giving you a pass if you're Japanese, and only first generation Occidental citizen, otherwise you're an even weirder freak.

From the earnest self-avowed frau @ R235:

"It saddens me to see how DL has been taken over by women who see pedophilia everywhere they look."

I simply find it highly ironic that you make this commentary, and sign your post "non-judgemental frau" Perhaps be a bit stealth, and don't announce you're a FRAU.

Well, you're honest, I'll give you that as much. Complaining however, about other straight fraus, whilst coming off as an authority on child rearing, and what seems to be harmless in a dad kissing his son on the lips... on a GAY forum is the height of offensive frauiness to my sensibilities! You're going to set us primarily gay blokes straight, because you somehow know better? And to sign off with your closure is simply icing on your narcissistic frau muffin.

I'd like to posit two things, and hopefully you may actually read this, though it's a long shot...

1. Men perceive this much differently to how a "frau" or straight mother would.

2. Gay blokes quite possibly perceive this differently to even most straight fathers POV.

I honestly believe those whom you call other fraus are actually gay blokes such as myself. You don't really understand all of us the way you think you do. This is why some frau remarks on some topics here really are off the mark, and don't fit here.

Poor boy.

Babies on the lips, if its your baby. All others on the cheek. Hugs of course.

The 32 yr old kissing his dad on lips and bathing together is downright wierdl

This is more weird to me in an "I call my wife 'Mother' way" than a pedo way. Not sure why.

brady kisses his team mates on lips too,, the cute ones.