Did he really contract AIDS after an affair with Brad Davis?
Timothy Patrick Murphy
|by Anonymous||reply 108||02/22/2021|
"Murphy contracted HIV and died of AIDS on December 6, 1988"
All in one day.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||01/24/2018|
He couldn't have gotten it from Dack Rambo since they weren't on [italic]Dallas[/italic] at the same time.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||01/24/2018|
I'm not familiar with him but he died at only 29 years old.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||01/24/2018|
His brother, tragically, died in 9/11. Their poor family.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||01/24/2018|
Unibrow = Death
|by Anonymous||reply 5||01/24/2018|
He didn't have the worst unibrow on [italic]Dallas[/italic] by a longshot, R5. That honor goes the guy who played J.R.'s personal detective in the later years. I swear the guy could be Leonid Brezhnev's illegitimate son but I can't remember the name of the actor or the character.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||01/24/2018|
If he had an affair with Brad Davis, he was surely getting fucked by lots of other guys.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||01/24/2018|
I had a huge crush on him in the 80s. He was just my type.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||01/24/2018|
Wow, cursed family: testicular cancer, AIDS, World Trade Center attack.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||01/24/2018|
Brad Davis got AIDS from drugs.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||01/24/2018|
Hard to predict when or where anybody got infected with HIV?
Some people go years without developing any symptoms of AIDS (long-term Nonprogressors) other people get ill and die much more quickly?
Makes you realize why HIV testing is so important
|by Anonymous||reply 11||01/24/2018|
[italic]Knots Landing[/italic] had at least two people who died of AIDS: Larry Riley and producer Lawrence Kasha.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||01/24/2018|
Wrote this elsewhere but he and Brad Davis both were rather famous for hanging out in the back alley of that video store (with some porn, I think, a back area) on Ventura Blvd. Always forget what it was called though I logged a lot of hours there (it was a legit store too with lots of tapes). 20/20? Not Odyssey...
Anyway, I was in my early 20s and heard both picked up guys there. Glad I didn't stumble across that, would've been so tempting. Both were great looking.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/24/2018|
[quote]In general, the time from infection with HIV to the development of AIDS is approximately 10 to 12 years.
I don't understand how this could be true when so many people died during the 80s. It would mean they were infected in the early 70s or even late 60s, before it existed. Maybe the time span has lengthened from the early years.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||01/24/2018|
HIV has been around longer than you'd think?
Pretty certain that the: Aids: Origin of pandemic 'was 1920s Kinshasa' hasn't been disputed yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||01/24/2018|
Yeah, sadly, it could end very quickly when the plague started. There was nothing until AZT and even then... Watch "Dallas Buyers Club" if you are young, best history lesson of the time out there probably. At least in terms of treatment.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||01/24/2018|
Brad Davis (2nd from left) must have been bi, at least.
And take a look at that bulge! No photoshop. It's the real deal.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||01/24/2018|
R13, Video West? Red Hot Videos?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||01/24/2018|
Actually, I seem to recall an interview in which Timothy Patrick Murphy said Rock Hudson was "a friend". I always thought he was one of the likely sources.
I do not know how true it was but I also recall it was said that when Rock got aids, he got depressed, so Ross Hunter, I think, sent over male escorts to "cheer him up."
|by Anonymous||reply 19||01/24/2018|
Video West, R18, thanks. In a strip mall. I don't remember it feeling very cruisy (like, say, Circus Books) but it was going on somewhere.
Murphy was interesting because he also had a clean cut image via playing Michael Landon in some movie. He was an early casualty, I recall. Scary days.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||01/24/2018|
Handsome Tom Fuccello was another Dallas guy felled by AIDS.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||01/24/2018|
Did they all fly on a plane where Gaetan Dugas was the flight attendant or something?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||01/24/2018|
If you want to find any of the 'Hidden AIDS Deaths' between 1984 - 2004ish try to find actors who died of 'Pancreatic or Liver' cancer (became a bit of an epidemic), It brings up some surprising names.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||01/24/2018|
Live fast. Die young. Leave a good looking corpse.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||01/24/2018|
I read somewhere that Tom Fuccello and Timothy Patrick Murphy were involved at some point.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||01/24/2018|
No need for a plane when you could stand in an alley and meet a new hot stranger every night. It really was that way in L.A. I remember hearing about "gay cancer" in 1982 for the first time and it was still years before it became the epidemic. By then there had been a lot of sex partners for a lot of people. I missed that period by being in the closet pretty much but just barely (and then got lucky when I did start meeting people).
|by Anonymous||reply 26||01/24/2018|
The Closet Saved Lives!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||01/24/2018|
The sexually active gay men who found boyfriends before the first wave of AIDS deaths were the really lucky ones.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||01/24/2018|
I doubt you could really pin it down to a particular person infecting him. I mean - incubation can vary a lot - from not very long and rapid onset - to taking months - or years. And back in the day - especially if you were young and hot - and you thought the only possible downsides could be fixed with a jab or course of antibiotics - then of course you were going to have fun and spread the joy around.
I know a few people who claimed to have caught hiv from a particular person - but given they were all promiscuous and fucking in the sane general circles - who can say?
I find it crazy that people would even try to say that they caught it from a particular individual. So pointless and judgey.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||01/24/2018|
R27 is more stupid than R10.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||01/24/2018|
Brad Davis sure loved showing off his bulge.
And I'm not complaining.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||01/24/2018|
R31, none of those "sailors" is Brad.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||01/24/2018|
Mt preteen gaydar was on overdrive with TPM, or on "firm grasp of the obvious" level.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||01/24/2018|
They've determined that HIV arrived in the US in New York City around 1970 and spread to the West Coast around 1976.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||01/24/2018|
R10 Yeah he got AIDS from drugs, because when he was on drugs he let any and all buttfuck him.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||01/24/2018|
I met him on New Year's Eve day in 1985 in Griffith Park and we wound up "dating" a little for about 6 weeks or so. He didn't want people to know he was gay. With me, he only wanted to hang out at his place and never wanted to go out for dinner, etc. I was only 20 and he was just about 5 years older. He did tell me a few good stories about some of his sexual exploits (don't we all have few to tell?). I saw him a couple of years later when I was walking home one night in West Hollywood. He called out my name but I didn't recognize him at first because he had lost so much weight. We didn't talk about him being sick, which was weird. I think he probably wouldn't have wanted to talk about it, but I regret that we didn't. We were young. I still think about him from time to time and wish I would have given him a hug that evening.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||01/24/2018|
TPM's long time companion was the guy in the Nightmare On Elm Street movie with the blonde jock who was harassed in the shower by his coach. He and Michael Corbett who was on Search for Tomorrow and Ryan's Hope traded apartments when TPM moved to LA and Michael was in NYC. I've maybe heard of TPM and Kin Shriner in the mid 80's. He was a good actor with a great look and he was feisty enough to piss off Dallas producers. He got a role in some Laurence Oliver movie - Where Is Parsafil? - and Dallas wouldn't let him out to do it and he sulked on set so they killed him off and put him in that iron lung thing. I know DL fave Morgan Brittany loved working with him on Dallas and Glitter and he was close to Charlene Tilton, but Char was wise enough not to beard for him. Rebecca Arthur did that for a time.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||01/24/2018|
Wasn't it possible to get infected with several strains of the virus if one slept around with so many people??
|by Anonymous||reply 38||01/25/2018|
He definitely used to fuck Michael Corbett.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||01/25/2018|
the bath houses were huge spreaders of the disease
ev friend i had bak then who went to em much, were among the first to die...
miss u craig, ritchie, gregory, stuart, and more.
god dam aids!
|by Anonymous||reply 40||01/25/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 41||01/25/2018|
Also interesting is how Wikipedia does not have a cause of death for Jack Cole - his death was so sudden, years later there was speculation if he was a very early undiagnosed HIV victim.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||01/25/2018|
R10, Brad Favis was gay- I know first hand.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||01/25/2018|
Interesting that Henry Mancini is mentioned in link at R43. He is also mentioned early in this old DL thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||01/25/2018|
I wonder how many gay men died of AIDS in the 1970s when they just didn't know what it was.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||01/25/2018|
He got the aids from someone on Search For Tonorrow.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||01/25/2018|
[quote]TPM's long time companion was the guy in the Nightmare On Elm Street movie with the blonde jock who was harassed in the shower by his coach.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||01/25/2018|
that's funny, I used to be in AA with Mark Patton. He was kind of an unfriendly asshole actually. Wonder if that was why...
P.S. Most DLers know him from "Come Back to the 5 and Dime..."
|by Anonymous||reply 48||01/25/2018|
Anyone interested in Brad David should read "After Midnight" the memoir by his wife Susan Bluestein Davis. They were an odd couple; he was a tiny, unsophisticated Southern boy and she was an older, overweight and Jewish. But they married, and she stuck by him, despite his craziness, drug addiction and promiscuity. She seemed to be rather in denial when it came to her husband's homosexual affairs; she figured he did a little gay hustling early in his career, but that he just "gay friendly", not bi or gay. The book is very interesting and gives a good portrait of the tormented Davis and the inner workings of Hollywood; Bluestein eventually became a successful casting director. She and Davis had a daughter Alexandra; Alexandra is no Alex Davis, a transgendered man.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||01/25/2018|
R32, Brad Davis is the sailor in the middle. That looks to be a shot from his homo-erotic film "Querelle."
|by Anonymous||reply 50||01/25/2018|
[quote]He was a good actor with a great look and he was feisty enough to piss off Dallas producers. He got a role in some Laurence Oliver movie - Where Is Parsafil? - and Dallas wouldn't let him out to do it and he sulked on set so they killed him off and put him in that iron lung thing.
That must have been a factor in why they let Audrey Landers out to do [italic]The Movie: A Chorus Line[/italic].
|by Anonymous||reply 51||01/25/2018|
More Brad in Querelle. Maybe that earlier pic isn't him. That guy is hairless, and obviously Brad had a very hairy chest.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||01/25/2018|
I met him with another actor (who came out in the '90s) at a sitcom taping. He was very flirtatious.
But what I remember the most is how much higher his voice was than Mickey Trotter's, his "Dallas" character. He was far more fey in person.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||01/25/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 54||01/25/2018|
#53, that may explain why he was such a wooden actor: he was trying to tamp-down his nelliness by slowing down his speech and talking in a monotone.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||01/25/2018|
[quote] that may explain why he was such a wooden actor: he was trying to tamp-down his nelliness by slowing down his speech and talking in a monotone
Sounds just like Jensen Ackles.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||01/25/2018|
TPM *dated* Sarah Jessica Parker.
So did Robert Downey So did Merrit Butrick David Oliver was her tv husband on A Year In the Life. DO tried to use that deaf actress who won an Oscar - as a beard. Can't recall her name. Melanie?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||01/25/2018|
Marlee Matlin. Fame is fleeting.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||01/25/2018|
Dunno about fleeting fame. she has kept working. More than some of the 80's actress's
|by Anonymous||reply 59||01/25/2018|
Agree and loved her book. Was poking fun at the guy not knowing her name above ("Melanie", no less. Speaking of which, did everyone see Melanie Griffith is doing Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate' in La jolla. Hard to imagine).
|by Anonymous||reply 60||01/25/2018|
"Dunno about fleeting fame. she has kept working. More than some of the 80's actress's."
Doing what? Playing deaf or mute girls? I can't imagine there were ever a lot of roles out there like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||01/25/2018|
R61 I suppose you could have always clicked the link at R59 and taken a look at her film & TV work over the years since?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||01/25/2018|
TPM was pretty flauntingly gay, so much so that P&G which employed him on Search for Tomorrow tried to put him n a p.r. relationship with LIsa Brown from Guiding Light. Marie Cheathman adored him - he played her 'son' Brian or Spencer and he was faking it.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||01/26/2018|
this one ...
|by Anonymous||reply 64||01/26/2018|
Do we know where he got the aids?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||01/26/2018|
From fucking r65
|by Anonymous||reply 66||01/26/2018|
|by Anonymous||reply 67||01/26/2018|
No, he got it from riding a tractor in a speedo..
|by Anonymous||reply 68||01/26/2018|
He sat on a public toilet.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||01/26/2018|
He drank from a public water fountain, Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||01/26/2018|
r68 THAT'S the tractor story!!
|by Anonymous||reply 71||01/26/2018|
When I first saw him on Search For Tomorrow, I developed a huge crush on him. I was in high school, closeted, and a loner. Whenever I thought what it would be like to have a boyfriend, I pictured TPM. He was so beautiful. His voice was charming and gentle. His build, his hairy chest he was my "type". Then when I began dating guys I discovered they were over all, complete sluts who hurt other for kicks, I figured Murphy was exactly the same and I deadened the crush I had on him.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||01/26/2018|
Dang, SJP was the Kaley Cuoco of her day, hm?
|by Anonymous||reply 73||01/26/2018|
TPM and David Oliver look exactly the same to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||01/26/2018|
Was he on Love Boat?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||01/26/2018|
"I suppose you could have always clicked the link at [R59] and taken a look at her film & TV work over the years since?"
She never had another major film role after "Children of a Lesser God." It was all minor roles after that. By the way, her Oscar was a fluke, one of those strange things that happen at the Academy Awards. It was a weak year for actresses. But I thought Sigourney Weaver should have won for "Aliens." Her performance was much better than Matlin's. Matlin's role really didn't take much acting at all. She was a deaf girl....playing a deaf girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||01/26/2018|
What did Linda Bove have going for her besides that and [italic]Sesame Street[/italic], R76?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||01/26/2018|
[quote]Brad Davis got AIDS from drugs.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||01/26/2018|
I am determined to find out how he got the aids. I Looked up his mother on Ancestry but it looks like she passed in 2016. I was going to call her if she were still alive. I’m now focusing on his siblings.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||01/26/2018|
[quote]Matlin's role really didn't take much acting at all. She was a deaf girl....playing a deaf girl.
LOL, those deaf people. You've met one, you've met them all.
Halle Berry was a black woman...playing a black woman.
Kathy Bates was a fat person...playing a fat person.
Marion Cotillard was a Frenchie...playing a Frenchie.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||01/26/2018|
"LOL, those deaf people. You've met one, you've met them all."
Your argument, if you can call it that, is ludicrous. It would have taken more acting for a non-deaf person to have played Matlin's role. As it was, she really didn't have to expend much effort at all to play a deaf person, being deaf herself. She did very little real acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||01/27/2018|
My "argument" was to point out how ridiculous it is to assess someone's performance based on how closely they might identify with characteristics of their role.
If you truly believe in a concept of "more acting," then it's pointless to discuss any further.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||01/27/2018|
TPM made the classic mistake of, while working on Dallas, saying he preferred Dynasty. That did not sit well with Hagman.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||01/29/2018|
Did Dack Rambo give him THE aids?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||01/29/2018|
[quote]TPM made the classic mistake of, while working on Dallas, saying he preferred Dynasty. That did not sit well with Hagman.
If true, that [bold]was[/bold] rather dumb.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||01/29/2018|
David Marshall Grant gave the eulogy at TPM funeral
|by Anonymous||reply 86||07/26/2020|
r76, and she fakes being deaf...she can hear a bit.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||07/26/2020|
This is odd. Mark Patton says he had a long term relationship with Murphy and were dating at the same time he was filming Nightmare 2. However, according to IMDb, Murphy acted up until the year before he died and I could find no picture online of Murphy looking particularly frail.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||07/26/2020|
Forgot to mention that at the time he was filming Nighmare 2, Patton said his lover was dying of AIDS which makes this even weirder.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||07/26/2020|
He was on an episode of the Love Boat with Dack Rambo titled Not Now, I'm Dying/Too Young to Love
|by Anonymous||reply 90||07/26/2020|
What about that puppeteer who died suddenly of pneumonia in 1990?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||07/26/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 92||07/26/2020|
R13 THAT episode is on today on MeTv! Crazy!
|by Anonymous||reply 93||07/26/2020|
I served him frequently in NYC, with and without Michael Corbett. Good guys.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||07/26/2020|
R91 You mean Wayland Flowers in 1988?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||07/26/2020|
Brad Davis' wife spread the "drugs" story. I wouldn't be surprised if he injected, but he also fucked anything that moved.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||07/26/2020|
[quote] Brad Davis got AIDS from drugs.
Yeah, that's what his wife said, alright.
And I am the Queen of Romania.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||07/26/2020|
Did you mean Jim Henson, R91?
|by Anonymous||reply 98||07/27/2020|
If you could somehow ask Brad Davis, I doubt he would know how he acquired the virus. Especially if he was promiscuous and an IV drug user. Rather silly to try and determine when and how 40 years later.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||07/27/2020|
[Quote] I could find no picture online of Murphy looking particularly frail
I read that the National Enquirer went so far as to visit the dying Murphy in hospital, though I can't find the actual article or pictures.
This was his last movie, a 1988 release, apparently. Perhaps it was shot in 1985 or 1986. From what I've watched, he was appropriate as the stuffed shirt brother of the lead. Martha Scott is perfect as his shrewish mother-in-law-to-be.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||02/22/2021|
Patton comes across as rather an unreliable narrator.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||02/22/2021|
[Quote] TPM and David Oliver look exactly the same to me.
TPM was a shortie, Oliver was not.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||02/22/2021|
Was he Irish?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||02/22/2021|
Who is/was David Oliver? Hot AF. TPM was also on one episode of CHiPs and one episode of Hotel.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||02/22/2021|
R20, scary days indeed.
I guess I came off straight-adjacent. Didn't get much 'oh, you're gay' in my 20s or early 30s...at least that's how I recall it.
I read every day about gay guys dying, some quickly after being diagnosed it seemed.
I played it safe for the most part.
I'm an elder gay now (first time I'm typing those words) - mid-50s now. It all goes by so fast
Who knows? Post-COVID, I may try and get out there unlike before.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||02/22/2021|
I think Mickey was best suited for Lucy.
Mitch was too good to be true and the 'we'll only spend the we make' cliche got old, fast.
Mickey was certainly the most height-appropriate guy for Lucy. I liked Eddie, too. Frederic Lehne. (sp?) great actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||02/22/2021|
[Quote] He got a role in some Laurence Oliver movie - Where Is Parsafil? - and Dallas wouldn't let him out to do it
I can't see that title on Olivier's imdb.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||02/22/2021|
[Quote] I did TPM
Did you mistype "dig"?
|by Anonymous||reply 108||02/22/2021|