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Timothy Patrick Murphy

Did he really contract AIDS after an affair with Brad Davis?

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by Anonymousreply 10802/22/2021

"Murphy contracted HIV and died of AIDS on December 6, 1988"

All in one day.

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by Anonymousreply 101/24/2018

He couldn't have gotten it from Dack Rambo since they weren't on [italic]Dallas[/italic] at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 201/24/2018

I'm not familiar with him but he died at only 29 years old.

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by Anonymousreply 301/24/2018

His brother, tragically, died in 9/11. Their poor family.

by Anonymousreply 401/24/2018

Unibrow = Death

by Anonymousreply 501/24/2018

He didn't have the worst unibrow on [italic]Dallas[/italic] by a longshot, R5. That honor goes the guy who played J.R.'s personal detective in the later years. I swear the guy could be Leonid Brezhnev's illegitimate son but I can't remember the name of the actor or the character.

by Anonymousreply 601/24/2018

If he had an affair with Brad Davis, he was surely getting fucked by lots of other guys.

by Anonymousreply 701/24/2018

I had a huge crush on him in the 80s. He was just my type.

by Anonymousreply 801/24/2018

Wow, cursed family: testicular cancer, AIDS, World Trade Center attack.

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by Anonymousreply 901/24/2018

Brad Davis got AIDS from drugs.

by Anonymousreply 1001/24/2018

Hard to predict when or where anybody got infected with HIV?

Some people go years without developing any symptoms of AIDS (long-term Nonprogressors) other people get ill and die much more quickly?

Makes you realize why HIV testing is so important

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by Anonymousreply 1101/24/2018

[italic]Knots Landing[/italic] had at least two people who died of AIDS: Larry Riley and producer Lawrence Kasha.

by Anonymousreply 1201/24/2018

Wrote this elsewhere but he and Brad Davis both were rather famous for hanging out in the back alley of that video store (with some porn, I think, a back area) on Ventura Blvd. Always forget what it was called though I logged a lot of hours there (it was a legit store too with lots of tapes). 20/20? Not Odyssey...

Anyway, I was in my early 20s and heard both picked up guys there. Glad I didn't stumble across that, would've been so tempting. Both were great looking.

by Anonymousreply 1301/24/2018

[quote]In general, the time from infection with HIV to the development of AIDS is approximately 10 to 12 years.

I don't understand how this could be true when so many people died during the 80s. It would mean they were infected in the early 70s or even late 60s, before it existed. Maybe the time span has lengthened from the early years.

by Anonymousreply 1401/24/2018

HIV has been around longer than you'd think?

Pretty certain that the: Aids: Origin of pandemic 'was 1920s Kinshasa' hasn't been disputed yet?

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by Anonymousreply 1501/24/2018

Yeah, sadly, it could end very quickly when the plague started. There was nothing until AZT and even then... Watch "Dallas Buyers Club" if you are young, best history lesson of the time out there probably. At least in terms of treatment.

by Anonymousreply 1601/24/2018

Brad Davis (2nd from left) must have been bi, at least.

And take a look at that bulge! No photoshop. It's the real deal.

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by Anonymousreply 1701/24/2018

R13, Video West? Red Hot Videos?

by Anonymousreply 1801/24/2018

Actually, I seem to recall an interview in which Timothy Patrick Murphy said Rock Hudson was "a friend". I always thought he was one of the likely sources.

I do not know how true it was but I also recall it was said that when Rock got aids, he got depressed, so Ross Hunter, I think, sent over male escorts to "cheer him up."

by Anonymousreply 1901/24/2018

Video West, R18, thanks. In a strip mall. I don't remember it feeling very cruisy (like, say, Circus Books) but it was going on somewhere.

Murphy was interesting because he also had a clean cut image via playing Michael Landon in some movie. He was an early casualty, I recall. Scary days.

by Anonymousreply 2001/24/2018

Handsome Tom Fuccello was another Dallas guy felled by AIDS.

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by Anonymousreply 2101/24/2018

Did they all fly on a plane where Gaetan Dugas was the flight attendant or something?

by Anonymousreply 2201/24/2018

If you want to find any of the 'Hidden AIDS Deaths' between 1984 - 2004ish try to find actors who died of 'Pancreatic or Liver' cancer (became a bit of an epidemic), It brings up some surprising names.

by Anonymousreply 2301/24/2018

Live fast. Die young. Leave a good looking corpse.

by Anonymousreply 2401/24/2018

I read somewhere that Tom Fuccello and Timothy Patrick Murphy were involved at some point.

by Anonymousreply 2501/24/2018

No need for a plane when you could stand in an alley and meet a new hot stranger every night. It really was that way in L.A. I remember hearing about "gay cancer" in 1982 for the first time and it was still years before it became the epidemic. By then there had been a lot of sex partners for a lot of people. I missed that period by being in the closet pretty much but just barely (and then got lucky when I did start meeting people).

by Anonymousreply 2601/24/2018

The Closet Saved Lives!

by Anonymousreply 2701/24/2018

The sexually active gay men who found boyfriends before the first wave of AIDS deaths were the really lucky ones.

by Anonymousreply 2801/24/2018

I doubt you could really pin it down to a particular person infecting him. I mean - incubation can vary a lot - from not very long and rapid onset - to taking months - or years. And back in the day - especially if you were young and hot - and you thought the only possible downsides could be fixed with a jab or course of antibiotics - then of course you were going to have fun and spread the joy around.

I know a few people who claimed to have caught hiv from a particular person - but given they were all promiscuous and fucking in the sane general circles - who can say?

I find it crazy that people would even try to say that they caught it from a particular individual. So pointless and judgey.

by Anonymousreply 2901/24/2018

R27 is more stupid than R10.

by Anonymousreply 3001/24/2018

Brad Davis sure loved showing off his bulge.

And I'm not complaining.

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by Anonymousreply 3101/24/2018

R31, none of those "sailors" is Brad.

by Anonymousreply 3201/24/2018

Mt preteen gaydar was on overdrive with TPM, or on "firm grasp of the obvious" level.

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by Anonymousreply 3301/24/2018

They've determined that HIV arrived in the US in New York City around 1970 and spread to the West Coast around 1976.

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by Anonymousreply 3401/24/2018

R10 Yeah he got AIDS from drugs, because when he was on drugs he let any and all buttfuck him.

by Anonymousreply 3501/24/2018

I met him on New Year's Eve day in 1985 in Griffith Park and we wound up "dating" a little for about 6 weeks or so. He didn't want people to know he was gay. With me, he only wanted to hang out at his place and never wanted to go out for dinner, etc. I was only 20 and he was just about 5 years older. He did tell me a few good stories about some of his sexual exploits (don't we all have few to tell?). I saw him a couple of years later when I was walking home one night in West Hollywood. He called out my name but I didn't recognize him at first because he had lost so much weight. We didn't talk about him being sick, which was weird. I think he probably wouldn't have wanted to talk about it, but I regret that we didn't. We were young. I still think about him from time to time and wish I would have given him a hug that evening.

by Anonymousreply 3601/24/2018

TPM's long time companion was the guy in the Nightmare On Elm Street movie with the blonde jock who was harassed in the shower by his coach. He and Michael Corbett who was on Search for Tomorrow and Ryan's Hope traded apartments when TPM moved to LA and Michael was in NYC. I've maybe heard of TPM and Kin Shriner in the mid 80's. He was a good actor with a great look and he was feisty enough to piss off Dallas producers. He got a role in some Laurence Oliver movie - Where Is Parsafil? - and Dallas wouldn't let him out to do it and he sulked on set so they killed him off and put him in that iron lung thing. I know DL fave Morgan Brittany loved working with him on Dallas and Glitter and he was close to Charlene Tilton, but Char was wise enough not to beard for him. Rebecca Arthur did that for a time.

by Anonymousreply 3701/24/2018

Wasn't it possible to get infected with several strains of the virus if one slept around with so many people??

by Anonymousreply 3801/25/2018

He definitely used to fuck Michael Corbett.

by Anonymousreply 3901/25/2018

the bath houses were huge spreaders of the disease

ev friend i had bak then who went to em much, were among the first to die...

miss u craig, ritchie, gregory, stuart, and more.

god dam aids!

by Anonymousreply 4001/25/2018

Interesting R23.

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by Anonymousreply 4101/25/2018

Also interesting is how Wikipedia does not have a cause of death for Jack Cole - his death was so sudden, years later there was speculation if he was a very early undiagnosed HIV victim.

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by Anonymousreply 4201/25/2018

R10, Brad Favis was gay- I know first hand.

by Anonymousreply 4301/25/2018

Interesting that Henry Mancini is mentioned in link at R43. He is also mentioned early in this old DL thread.

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by Anonymousreply 4401/25/2018

I wonder how many gay men died of AIDS in the 1970s when they just didn't know what it was.

by Anonymousreply 4501/25/2018

He got the aids from someone on Search For Tonorrow.

by Anonymousreply 4601/25/2018

[quote]TPM's long time companion was the guy in the Nightmare On Elm Street movie with the blonde jock who was harassed in the shower by his coach.

Mark Patton?

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by Anonymousreply 4701/25/2018

that's funny, I used to be in AA with Mark Patton. He was kind of an unfriendly asshole actually. Wonder if that was why...

P.S. Most DLers know him from "Come Back to the 5 and Dime..."

by Anonymousreply 4801/25/2018

Anyone interested in Brad David should read "After Midnight" the memoir by his wife Susan Bluestein Davis. They were an odd couple; he was a tiny, unsophisticated Southern boy and she was an older, overweight and Jewish. But they married, and she stuck by him, despite his craziness, drug addiction and promiscuity. She seemed to be rather in denial when it came to her husband's homosexual affairs; she figured he did a little gay hustling early in his career, but that he just "gay friendly", not bi or gay. The book is very interesting and gives a good portrait of the tormented Davis and the inner workings of Hollywood; Bluestein eventually became a successful casting director. She and Davis had a daughter Alexandra; Alexandra is no Alex Davis, a transgendered man.

by Anonymousreply 4901/25/2018

R32, Brad Davis is the sailor in the middle. That looks to be a shot from his homo-erotic film "Querelle."

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by Anonymousreply 5001/25/2018

[quote]He was a good actor with a great look and he was feisty enough to piss off Dallas producers. He got a role in some Laurence Oliver movie - Where Is Parsafil? - and Dallas wouldn't let him out to do it and he sulked on set so they killed him off and put him in that iron lung thing.

That must have been a factor in why they let Audrey Landers out to do [italic]The Movie: A Chorus Line[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 5101/25/2018

More Brad in Querelle. Maybe that earlier pic isn't him. That guy is hairless, and obviously Brad had a very hairy chest.

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by Anonymousreply 5201/25/2018

I met him with another actor (who came out in the '90s) at a sitcom taping. He was very flirtatious.

But what I remember the most is how much higher his voice was than Mickey Trotter's, his "Dallas" character. He was far more fey in person.

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by Anonymousreply 5401/25/2018

#53, that may explain why he was such a wooden actor: he was trying to tamp-down his nelliness by slowing down his speech and talking in a monotone.

by Anonymousreply 5501/25/2018

[quote] that may explain why he was such a wooden actor: he was trying to tamp-down his nelliness by slowing down his speech and talking in a monotone

Sounds just like Jensen Ackles.

by Anonymousreply 5601/25/2018

TPM *dated* Sarah Jessica Parker.

So did Robert Downey So did Merrit Butrick David Oliver was her tv husband on A Year In the Life. DO tried to use that deaf actress who won an Oscar - as a beard. Can't recall her name. Melanie?

by Anonymousreply 5701/25/2018

Marlee Matlin. Fame is fleeting.

by Anonymousreply 5801/25/2018

Dunno about fleeting fame. she has kept working. More than some of the 80's actress's

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by Anonymousreply 5901/25/2018

Agree and loved her book. Was poking fun at the guy not knowing her name above ("Melanie", no less. Speaking of which, did everyone see Melanie Griffith is doing Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate' in La jolla. Hard to imagine).

by Anonymousreply 6001/25/2018

"Dunno about fleeting fame. she has kept working. More than some of the 80's actress's."

Doing what? Playing deaf or mute girls? I can't imagine there were ever a lot of roles out there like that.

by Anonymousreply 6101/25/2018

R61 I suppose you could have always clicked the link at R59 and taken a look at her film & TV work over the years since?

by Anonymousreply 6201/25/2018

TPM was pretty flauntingly gay, so much so that P&G which employed him on Search for Tomorrow tried to put him n a p.r. relationship with LIsa Brown from Guiding Light. Marie Cheathman adored him - he played her 'son' Brian or Spencer and he was faking it.

by Anonymousreply 6301/26/2018

this one ...

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by Anonymousreply 6401/26/2018

Do we know where he got the aids?

by Anonymousreply 6501/26/2018

From fucking r65

by Anonymousreply 6601/26/2018

Thanks Dorothy

by Anonymousreply 6701/26/2018

No, he got it from riding a tractor in a speedo..

by Anonymousreply 6801/26/2018

He sat on a public toilet.

by Anonymousreply 6901/26/2018

He drank from a public water fountain, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 7001/26/2018

r68 THAT'S the tractor story!!

by Anonymousreply 7101/26/2018

When I first saw him on Search For Tomorrow, I developed a huge crush on him. I was in high school, closeted, and a loner. Whenever I thought what it would be like to have a boyfriend, I pictured TPM. He was so beautiful. His voice was charming and gentle. His build, his hairy chest he was my "type". Then when I began dating guys I discovered they were over all, complete sluts who hurt other for kicks, I figured Murphy was exactly the same and I deadened the crush I had on him.

by Anonymousreply 7201/26/2018

Dang, SJP was the Kaley Cuoco of her day, hm?

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by Anonymousreply 7301/26/2018

TPM and David Oliver look exactly the same to me.

by Anonymousreply 7401/26/2018

Was he on Love Boat?

by Anonymousreply 7501/26/2018

"I suppose you could have always clicked the link at [R59] and taken a look at her film & TV work over the years since?"

She never had another major film role after "Children of a Lesser God." It was all minor roles after that. By the way, her Oscar was a fluke, one of those strange things that happen at the Academy Awards. It was a weak year for actresses. But I thought Sigourney Weaver should have won for "Aliens." Her performance was much better than Matlin's. Matlin's role really didn't take much acting at all. She was a deaf girl....playing a deaf girl.

by Anonymousreply 7601/26/2018

What did Linda Bove have going for her besides that and [italic]Sesame Street[/italic], R76?

by Anonymousreply 7701/26/2018

[quote]Brad Davis got AIDS from drugs.

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by Anonymousreply 7801/26/2018

I am determined to find out how he got the aids. I Looked up his mother on Ancestry but it looks like she passed in 2016. I was going to call her if she were still alive. I’m now focusing on his siblings.

by Anonymousreply 7901/26/2018

[quote]Matlin's role really didn't take much acting at all. She was a deaf girl....playing a deaf girl.

LOL, those deaf people. You've met one, you've met them all.

Halle Berry was a black woman...playing a black woman.

Kathy Bates was a fat person...playing a fat person.

Marion Cotillard was a Frenchie...playing a Frenchie.

by Anonymousreply 8001/26/2018

"LOL, those deaf people. You've met one, you've met them all."

Your argument, if you can call it that, is ludicrous. It would have taken more acting for a non-deaf person to have played Matlin's role. As it was, she really didn't have to expend much effort at all to play a deaf person, being deaf herself. She did very little real acting.

by Anonymousreply 8101/27/2018

My "argument" was to point out how ridiculous it is to assess someone's performance based on how closely they might identify with characteristics of their role.

If you truly believe in a concept of "more acting," then it's pointless to discuss any further.

by Anonymousreply 8201/27/2018

TPM made the classic mistake of, while working on Dallas, saying he preferred Dynasty. That did not sit well with Hagman.

by Anonymousreply 8301/29/2018

Did Dack Rambo give him THE aids?

by Anonymousreply 8401/29/2018

[quote]TPM made the classic mistake of, while working on Dallas, saying he preferred Dynasty. That did not sit well with Hagman.

If true, that [bold]was[/bold] rather dumb.

by Anonymousreply 8501/29/2018

David Marshall Grant gave the eulogy at TPM funeral

by Anonymousreply 8607/26/2020

r76, and she fakes being deaf...she can hear a bit.

by Anonymousreply 8707/26/2020

This is odd. Mark Patton says he had a long term relationship with Murphy and were dating at the same time he was filming Nightmare 2. However, according to IMDb, Murphy acted up until the year before he died and I could find no picture online of Murphy looking particularly frail.

by Anonymousreply 8807/26/2020

Forgot to mention that at the time he was filming Nighmare 2, Patton said his lover was dying of AIDS which makes this even weirder.

by Anonymousreply 8907/26/2020

He was on an episode of the Love Boat with Dack Rambo titled Not Now, I'm Dying/Too Young to Love

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by Anonymousreply 9007/26/2020

What about that puppeteer who died suddenly of pneumonia in 1990?

by Anonymousreply 9107/26/2020

Edgar Bergen?

by Anonymousreply 9207/26/2020

R13 THAT episode is on today on MeTv! Crazy!

by Anonymousreply 9307/26/2020

I served him frequently in NYC, with and without Michael Corbett. Good guys.

by Anonymousreply 9407/26/2020

R91 You mean Wayland Flowers in 1988?

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by Anonymousreply 9507/26/2020

Brad Davis' wife spread the "drugs" story. I wouldn't be surprised if he injected, but he also fucked anything that moved.

by Anonymousreply 9607/26/2020

[quote] Brad Davis got AIDS from drugs.

Yeah, that's what his wife said, alright.

And I am the Queen of Romania.

by Anonymousreply 9707/26/2020

Did you mean Jim Henson, R91?

by Anonymousreply 9807/27/2020

If you could somehow ask Brad Davis, I doubt he would know how he acquired the virus. Especially if he was promiscuous and an IV drug user. Rather silly to try and determine when and how 40 years later.

by Anonymousreply 9907/27/2020

[Quote] I could find no picture online of Murphy looking particularly frail

I read that the National Enquirer went so far as to visit the dying Murphy in hospital, though I can't find the actual article or pictures.

This was his last movie, a 1988 release, apparently. Perhaps it was shot in 1985 or 1986. From what I've watched, he was appropriate as the stuffed shirt brother of the lead. Martha Scott is perfect as his shrewish mother-in-law-to-be.

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by Anonymousreply 10002/22/2021

Patton comes across as rather an unreliable narrator.

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by Anonymousreply 10102/22/2021

[Quote] TPM and David Oliver look exactly the same to me.

TPM was a shortie, Oliver was not.

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by Anonymousreply 10202/22/2021

Was he Irish?

by Anonymousreply 10302/22/2021

Who is/was David Oliver? Hot AF. TPM was also on one episode of CHiPs and one episode of Hotel.

by Anonymousreply 10402/22/2021

R20, scary days indeed.

I guess I came off straight-adjacent. Didn't get much 'oh, you're gay' in my 20s or early least that's how I recall it.

I read every day about gay guys dying, some quickly after being diagnosed it seemed.

I played it safe for the most part.

I'm an elder gay now (first time I'm typing those words) - mid-50s now. It all goes by so fast

Who knows? Post-COVID, I may try and get out there unlike before.

by Anonymousreply 10502/22/2021

I think Mickey was best suited for Lucy.

Mitch was too good to be true and the 'we'll only spend the we make' cliche got old, fast.

Mickey was certainly the most height-appropriate guy for Lucy. I liked Eddie, too. Frederic Lehne. (sp?) great actor.

by Anonymousreply 10602/22/2021

[Quote] He got a role in some Laurence Oliver movie - Where Is Parsafil? - and Dallas wouldn't let him out to do it

I can't see that title on Olivier's imdb.

by Anonymousreply 10702/22/2021

[Quote] I did TPM

Did you mistype "dig"?

by Anonymousreply 10802/22/2021
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