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Secret AIDS deaths

Did any stars manage to hide their deaths?

by Anonymousreply 34010/09/2017

They hid their deaths so well that everyone still thinks they're alive.

by Anonymousreply 104/21/2013

Like Doris Day

by Anonymousreply 204/21/2013

Margaret Thatcher.

by Anonymousreply 304/21/2013

Michael Landon?

by Anonymousreply 404/21/2013

If they did

would they know?

by Anonymousreply 504/21/2013

I feel like I've read DL speculation about:

Michael Landon

Jim Henson

Sammy Davis Jr.

Yassar Arafat

Raul Julia

by Anonymousreply 604/21/2013

Some guy from Knots Landing insisted he was losing weight from a water melon diet. (he was black can't make this stuff up)

by Anonymousreply 704/21/2013

I can confirm Raul Julia and Henry Mancini.

by Anonymousreply 804/22/2013

I believe all died of cancer except for Hensen who died of pneumonia, unrelated to HIV (at the hospital where I work). On what planet is DL a reliable source for anything except speculation and gossip.

by Anonymousreply 904/22/2013

All of those people in Aurora, CO. James Holmes is innocent, guys!

by Anonymousreply 1004/22/2013

Miles Davis was rumored

by Anonymousreply 1104/22/2013

Terry Lester

by Anonymousreply 1204/22/2013

Raul Julia's food poisoning death always sounded suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 1304/22/2013

I can also confirm that Jim Henson's death had nothing to do with AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 1404/22/2013

Kenneth Lay. Whoops, he's probably not dead!

by Anonymousreply 1504/22/2013

Liberace. Curious how this will be handled in the HBO movie.

by Anonymousreply 1604/22/2013

Al Sharpton in 5, 4, 3....

by Anonymousreply 1704/22/2013

Luther Vandross?

by Anonymousreply 1804/22/2013

Doris Day is alive

by Anonymousreply 1904/22/2013

Al Sharpon cruised me at a rally in front of Radio City in the '90's. I should have gone for it...if there had been a DL back then, I would have, just to tell y'all.

by Anonymousreply 2004/22/2013

I was always suspicious about Suzanne Sugarbaker after he encounter with Dutch Elm Disease

by Anonymousreply 2104/22/2013

Wow. I was just about to post a what ever happened to thread about Luther Vandross. I had no idea he died. His music pops up on my Pandora often.

by Anonymousreply 2204/22/2013

Michael Landon's death certificate is at link below. Cause of death: Pancreatic cancer.

Raul Julia I could see; he seemed to have wasting for a while, particularly in the last Addams Family movie.

by Anonymousreply 2304/22/2013

The brunette of Siegfried and Roy.

by Anonymousreply 2404/22/2013

[quote]Wow. I was just about to post a what ever happened to thread about Luther Vandross. I had no idea he died

Where have YOU been for the past umpteen years?

by Anonymousreply 2504/22/2013

[quote]Some guy from Knots Landing insisted he was losing weight from a water melon diet. (he was black can't make this stuff up)

Your flippant wording is very douchey. "Some guy...", "he was black too..." What an asshole.

Anyway, his name was Larry Riley. He had a very strapping physique before he started noticeably losing weight.

by Anonymousreply 2604/22/2013

Raul Julia didn't die from AIDS. HIs symptoms didn't match, and he died at a time when therapies were available. Also, he wasn't gay, from all indications, for what that's worth - his life style didn't seem to suggest an HIV infection from non-sexual sources.

The family never said what the problem was that started the chain of events that killed him. The rumors at the time were that he had surgery for stomach cancer, always a tricky business. He lost weight (characteristic of metastasis) and had the food poisoning after the initial surgery. He kept working, but weakened and finally was hospitalized for abdominal pain, had a stroke, went into a coma, and died. Supposedly.

I think the family - after his wishes - kept the cancer quiet and have not talked since his death.

I wouldn't be surprised if Miles Davis died with, if not from AIDS. Howard Rollins also comes to mind. His lymphoma seemed associative with HIV, to me.

by Anonymousreply 2704/22/2013

I remember Amanda Blake's (GUNSMOKE) death was initially not reported as being AIDS. She contracted it from her husband.

by Anonymousreply 2804/22/2013

I wonder if she got it from letting him do her in the ass, R28.

I had the same thought about Tina Chow, who was one of the first hetero women to die of AIDS. She had an affair with a "bisexual" guy.

Part of the reason why AIDS didn't sweep through the het population is that it's much harder to catch through the vag.

by Anonymousreply 2904/22/2013

Max Robinson and/or Frank Reynolds

by Anonymousreply 3004/22/2013

That just shows you how well hidden it was R19.

by Anonymousreply 3104/22/2013

Lenny Baker of "Next Stop, Greenwich Village".

by Anonymousreply 3204/22/2013

[quote] Raul Julia didn't die from AIDS. HIs symptoms didn't match, and he died at a time when therapies were available

There were therapies available then (AZT, Videx and Hivid -which was eventually discontinued years later because it was so ineffective), but they really didn't extend life for very long

by Anonymousreply 3304/22/2013

Arthur Ash was not a secret aids death, of course, but there were rumors the cause was a secret.

I also seem to recall subsequent rumors surrounding the Shah of Iran (he would have been an early casualty) and the choreographer Jack Cole.

Later in, George Peppard's was another death with associated rumors.

And of course, MALCOLM FORBES.

by Anonymousreply 3404/22/2013

Wasn't Jim Henson's death sudden? I don't remember any period of decline or sickness.

by Anonymousreply 3504/22/2013

[quote]Al Sharpton in 5, 4, 3....

He looks like a male Star Jones with that massive head and a shrunken body.

by Anonymousreply 3604/22/2013

r27, That was mentioned outright in a bio of Davis I read (Swed was the author).

I was pissed off that there was no mention of his sexuality, yet the author stated flat out that it was possible he died from AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 3704/22/2013

To the Al Sharpton posters: This doesn't have anything to do with AIDS per se, but a very close male friend who formerly moonlighted at a venue in Chicago where Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton held "inspirational" cultural presentations in the early 80's said that Al Sharpton was all over the 18-21 year old boys like himself. This guy is not homophobic in the least, so I can't imagine him saying it for shock value. I think his emaciated look stems from gastric bypass surgery which tends to give one's face a very drawn look. Plus, I'd bet he eats like a bird now in hopes of staying slim.

And you guys do know that cancer is one of the contributing factors which can cause one's HIV status to progress into full blown AIDS, don't you? If you have an immune suppressed internal system you are less able to prevent the cancer cells we all have in our body from mutating healthy cells into becoming malignant and producing tumors... hence the term AIDS Related Cancer. For obvious reasons, many prefer to have their obits read cancer than ARC.

by Anonymousreply 3804/23/2013

Roy Cohn threatend to ruin anyone who speculated he had AIDS. He thought the "secret" went to his grave with him.

by Anonymousreply 3904/23/2013

James Coco (“heart attack”)

Perry Ellis (“Acute Encephalitis” – that one took the cake)

by Anonymousreply 4004/23/2013

Gumby and Pokey. Trust me.

by Anonymousreply 4104/23/2013

Jensen Ackles - 2024

by Anonymousreply 4204/23/2013

Justin Biebler

by Anonymousreply 4304/23/2013

The rumor in certain social circles over in Puerto Rico was that Raul Julia fell ill with cancer. He kept it to himself in order to remain insurable and, in essence, played Russian Roulette with his health. That was the rumor and I have no way to know if it is true or not at all.

by Anonymousreply 4404/23/2013

R33, your information is wrong and silly. Many treated cases of full-blown AIDS, not to mention HIV infection, extending to the early 1990s saw and have seen life expectancy extended. I am following a sample of such men (all gay males) and none have died, nor have the five of my personal acquaintances and relatives whose AIDS extend to the late 1980s.

None of which means that lives weren't lost and continue to be lost to AIDS, treatment or not. The point is that your information is unhelpfully wrong.

by Anonymousreply 4504/23/2013

I always wondered about the sudden death of Paul Lynde. His death certificate says "heart attack", but a newspaper article at the time claimed he weighed about 95 lbs at the time of his death. I also remember the official cause of death was not immediately released.

by Anonymousreply 4604/23/2013

Al Sharpton is so polarizing that if he was on the DL, the NY Post would have had that story.

He definitely had gastric bypass.

by Anonymousreply 4704/23/2013

Bin Ladin. He took big cocks up his stinky shitter for years.

by Anonymousreply 4804/23/2013

I always wondered about Eazy-E's death and the story put out.

Only because much of the black community seems as inherently awful to its own over being gay as white hillbilly bible-bashers are.

by Anonymousreply 4904/23/2013

Monty Clift's death was labeled heart attack and he weighed about 95lbs so I guess a thin person can have a heart attack. Probably from all the abuse the body took over the years.

Wasn't Ray Sharkey's (Wiseguy) cause of death kinda of a secret? He died from AIDS from drug use.

by Anonymousreply 5004/23/2013

Why would a man on the downlow want to begin an AIDS-preventing drug program- no matter what wonder drugs were available? That would out him immediately.

by Anonymousreply 5104/23/2013

Elaine Stritch had a secret death two years ago. She was replaced by a Muppet and nobody has noticed.

by Anonymousreply 5204/23/2013

Luther was rumored to be poz.

by Anonymousreply 5304/23/2013

[quote]I always wondered about Eazy-E's death and the story put out.

I'm sorry but he was a very ignorant man. He did an interview ages ago where he claimed that he had many ladies a night and that he made sure to take Tetracycline after having had sex with them sans a condom.

Sorry. But he was as ignorant as he was self destructive. It's all a damn' shame if anything and I take no pleasure in relating any of this at all.

by Anonymousreply 5404/24/2013

They say Rev. James Cleveland, but it's all hush-hush...

by Anonymousreply 5504/24/2013

[R54] We're all grown ups here, and I'm reasonably sure that few DL members think that a straight man is likely to sero-convert by having lots of sex with women. It's not a racial or gay's a physiological thing. Men are secretors, woman are not. Unless the woman is on her period and the man's dick is covered in open sores or cuts, it's damn near impossible. So many Black folks say. "no way Eazy got AIDS from a man." I say, if you weren't in hiss asshole, how would you know?

by Anonymousreply 5604/25/2013

Raul Julia's illness was never been revealed. He would show up looking awful(see picture) He "got sick" and died. Read Frank Langella 's book. He was Julia's best friend and even says he was completely heterosexual, but was in love with Raul and the only guy he would have slept with. But he too say Raul "got sick" and never revealed what it was. It's a duck.

by Anonymousreply 5704/25/2013

R56 - you do know that HIV is present in a woman's vaginal secretions, right? I'm not talking about when she is on her period, but the natural secretions during intercourse. It is possible to contract HIV if these fluids enter the tip of the penis. The risk goes up quite a bit more if the male has any sores/abrasions on his dick. Check out,, etc for more information.

by Anonymousreply 5804/25/2013

Miles Davis sure looked like AIDS face with a touch of AIDS dementia thrown in. The sunken ashy features but particularly the bulging , vacant crazy eyes.

Switching gears, although Princess Margaret's death was attributed to declining health due to a series of strokes, lung and liver disease from smoking and drinking and complications from burns to her feet, some gossip says she caught HIV from a lover who later died of AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 5904/25/2013

Jaden Smith

by Anonymousreply 6004/25/2013

Al Sharpton is gay?

by Anonymousreply 6104/25/2013

A famous down low athlete who died from AIDS did not get it from a blood transfusion. Why do you think the hospital and blood bank were not sued.

by Anonymousreply 6204/25/2013

Miles Davis' death was acknowledged to be from AIDS-related complications. I remember reading about it way back in the early 90s.

by Anonymousreply 6304/25/2013

[quote]A famous down low athlete who died from AIDS did not get it from a blood transfusion.

Why are you hiding his identity?

[quote]Why do you think the hospital and blood bank were not sued.

Depends when it happened. They couldn't be sued on the days before HIV could be screened. Why do you think so many cases of AIDS due to transfusion happened to start with?!

by Anonymousreply 6404/25/2013


Arthur Ashe? He's dead. He doesn't care if you use his name.

by Anonymousreply 6504/25/2013

[quote]Luther was rumored to be poz.

Are we talking about Martin Luthor? Or just Luther Vandross?

by Anonymousreply 6604/25/2013

Abe Vigoda.

by Anonymousreply 6704/25/2013

[quote]Abe Vigoda

And Luise Ranier

by Anonymousreply 6804/25/2013

[quote] Are we talking about Martin Luthor? Or just Luther Vandross?

Lex Luthor, Rose!

by Anonymousreply 6904/25/2013

Arthur Ashe's AIDS death wasn't kept secret, but the CAUSE of his infection sure was.

by Anonymousreply 7004/25/2013

Isaac Asimov.

by Anonymousreply 7104/25/2013


by Anonymousreply 7204/25/2013

Was Bill Blass's cause of death reported as AIDS at the time?

by Anonymousreply 7304/25/2013

Danny Kaye

by Anonymousreply 7404/25/2013

The only one I really suspect is Easy-E, like r49 mentions.

by Anonymousreply 7504/25/2013

Linda Day George's hubby....can't remember his name.

by Anonymousreply 7605/01/2013

I remember Bob Hope saying that "some big names" actually died of Aids; but was listed as something else. No one followed up on that question.

Always wondered about Howard Hughes. His death was so similar to those of Aids victims.

by Anonymousreply 7705/01/2013

I don't believe Luther had AIDS. He suffered from some ailments plus the gaining and dropping weight took a toll.

Guru (the rapper)

by Anonymousreply 7805/01/2013

I thought Suge Knight had Eazy infected. Google around. And Ice Cubes album was called Lethal Injection. Cripes I sound like some weirdo on the Johnny depp thread but there's a lot of evidence.

by Anonymousreply 7905/01/2013

I stand corrected on Luther, in that I hadn't heard rumors of him being positive but others seem to have.

I did hear about Rev. James Cleveland, r55. It's not as much a secret as it once was.

by Anonymousreply 8005/01/2013

I've heard this time and time again, but what are the circumstances under which he was suppose to have been stuck? r79

by Anonymousreply 8105/01/2013

Lady Bird Johnson.

She was big into sharing needles.

by Anonymousreply 8205/01/2013

I wonder about John Inman. He allegedly died of hepatitis.

by Anonymousreply 8305/01/2013

NASCAR driver Tim Richmond.

by Anonymousreply 8405/01/2013

Eazy was a crackhead and blackout drunk. He was a pretty easy target.

by Anonymousreply 8505/01/2013

Steve McQueen?

by Anonymousreply 8605/01/2013

I wondered about McQueen too. His treatments in Mexico with apricot pits sounded extrememly desperate.

by Anonymousreply 8705/01/2013

Andy Warhol died of AIDS but New york Hospital and the art world in general covered it up so the market for his works wouldn't go south. I got this from the then director of the hospital, whose wife was a New York State judge. they frequented my restaurant on the Upper East Side.

The actor who played Carlos on "The Flying Nun" was also an early AIDS victim, but that one was covered up as well. Alejandro Rey.

by Anonymousreply 8805/13/2013

r46, Paul Lynde died of a heart attack while using poppers. The guy he shared them with was in the bed when Paul was stricken. Those details weren't in the Obit.

by Anonymousreply 8905/13/2013

Please quit mentioning black rappers in this thread. It is disrespectful to the deceased stars and athletes.

by Anonymousreply 9005/13/2013

Look, there is absolutely no disrespect intended. I was a huge Eazy E fan. HUGE. But it is such a disservice to the funding powers that be to pretend that Magic and Eric Wright sero-converted from hetero-sex. The money for a vaccine and a cure needs to be directed where it is most needed. If women caused men to sero-convert, 50% of the white male population in this country would be poz.

Now, if you have info that Eazy was an intravenous drug user who shared needles, i could buy that theory. But considering the who's who of Black Celebritydom are nearly all on the DL, why would Eazy, Dre's good friend, be any different?

by Anonymousreply 9105/13/2013

I remember reading in a newspaper that Eazy E died of AIDS. Why are people pretending it wasn't AIDS? That's just pathetic.

And as someone stated, Magic Johnson is believed to have gotten HIV from sex with men. When I used to do AIDS education back in the 90's, many of the speakers with HIV would talk about drugs, and murder and everything else EXCEPT the fact that they were gay/bi. What a complete fucking disservice to the kids, but even AIDS wouldn't pull those speakers out of the closet.

"I am following a sample of such men (all gay males) and none have died, nor have the five of my personal acquaintances and relatives whose AIDS extend to the late 1980s."

Your anecdotal evidence is meangingless. I'm in an HIV support group and three out of seven members have died within the last year. All your palaver in service of keeping Julia in the closet... I've lived too long to be surprised by how much people are willing to sacrifice to the closet, but I'll never stop being disgusted by it.

by Anonymousreply 9205/13/2013

When I was working as a flight attendant there was a very specific time, I think around 1982-3) where airlines were fighting to keep AIDS patients of the aircraft(not so much because folks thought it was easily communicable, but because it upset other passengers too much). During this brief time many men were flying home east from the west coast to die at their family's home. I know what a man looks like when he dies from AIDS before all the meds were on the market. Raul Julia looked exactly like that when he died. And so did Henry Mancini(The Pink Panther and Blake Edwards best friend.)

by Anonymousreply 9305/14/2013

If AIDS cannot be passed from woman to man, then please explain the apocalyptic amount of AIDS victims in Sub-Saharan Africa. Surely not all of the MILLIONS of men who are positive in Africa and many other parts of the world can ALL be gay.

Think before you post and realize that you might be spreading dangerous misinformation. Vaginal secretions carry the virus. If a man has a small cut on his penis then he'll get the virus. Case closed.

by Anonymousreply 9405/14/2013

NO case not closed. The people of sub Saharan Africa's immune systems are so compromised by the lack of clean water and other diseases, that they have a life expectancy of @35.

Unlike in the USA, a person with a normal immune system can come into contact with HIV and not ser-convert. It happens frequently. But when someone whose body is swimming with every parasite and critter known to man becomes HIV+, they have little to no chance.

My brother is a researcher/MD at the CDC in ATL, and he has assured me that the cases of female to male HIV transmission is 99.9% limited to IV needle sharing. You may not want to hear this, but isn't it better to know the truth so the government and big pharma can spend all the research funding where it's needed? If women spread it to men, there would be a huge portion of the male hetero population who are poz.

by Anonymousreply 9505/14/2013

More about George Peppard please.

I read in a book that Charles Laughton might have died of AIDS, but I don't believe it.

by Anonymousreply 9605/14/2013

R88, details about Warhol, please.

by Anonymousreply 9705/14/2013

So if r95 is correct then AIDS is primarily a gay male disease.

by Anonymousreply 9805/14/2013

R88,I heard that story about Warhol shortly after he died but then I heard that the night before he was admitted to hospital(and died a little over 24 hours after that) he was at a party. Now we know that parties were his life,but was it really to that extent that he didn`t want to miss a single party until his last moment? How was he standing on his feet then?

by Anonymousreply 9905/14/2013

No, r98. Women still get AIDS from sharing needles and having sex with MSM. r98 said your chances of getting AIDS from a woman via heterosexual sex are miniscule.

My partner and I are currently waiting on test results. A FB of ours told us he tested positive. The oral test was negative but he tested positive with the .....forget the name...test.

We also tested negative with the oral test. Waiting on the other test results.

by Anonymousreply 10005/14/2013

Interesting R93.

by Anonymousreply 10105/14/2013

How about any unmarried male who died of "pneumonia" from 1980 - 2000.

by Anonymousreply 10205/14/2013

"Miles Davis sure looked like AIDS face with a touch of AIDS dementia thrown in. The sunken ashy features but particularly the bulging , vacant crazy eyes."

His looks could have also resulted from years of drug addiction or alcoholism or some other physical malady.

Remember all the AIDS rumors about Richard Pryor? He looked ghastly, so it had to be AIDS, right? Well, it turned out he had MS. His death was slow and agonizing, but it wasn't AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 10305/14/2013

Steve McQueen, as it's been well-established, died of cancer. Plus, how would he have gotten AIDS? Sorry to dash your hopes, but he wasn't gay. He didn't use dirty needles and he wasn't a hemophiliac. Although he'd been a heavy smoker, it was later determined that the cancer was probably the direct result of massive exposure to asbestos while removing asbestos lagging from pipes aboard a troop ship during his time in the Marines.

by Anonymousreply 10405/14/2013

"Danny Kaye"

Danny Kaye's death was tied to a contaminated blood transfusion, but it wasn't contaminated with AIDS, it was contaminated with hepatitis.

He died of a heart attack, following a bout with hepatitis.

by Anonymousreply 10505/14/2013

Big Kitty from Gunsmoke secretly died of AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 10605/14/2013

R106 It was no secret when she died.

by Anonymousreply 10705/14/2013

Rene Enriquez who played the Hispanic police officer on HILL STREET BLUES

Amanda Blake was infected by her fifth husband, a California politician who was decades younger than he3r

by Anonymousreply 10805/14/2013

liza minnelli has aids from all the different gay cocks shes had

by Anonymousreply 10905/14/2013

R108, you meant "than her." You should have meant "than she."

by Anonymousreply 11005/14/2013

When did Liza and Peter Allen divorce? Was it before AIDS started spreading?

by Anonymousreply 11105/15/2013

If you go on You Tube you can watch "And the Band Played On" the movie adaptation of Randy Shilts' story of the AIDS virus and how it was ignored during the Reagan years.

At the end, and even during the movie as the body cunt rises, there are dozens and dozens of famous people who died "after a long illness" or who died of "pneumonia."

If you haven't seen it it's worth watching. If you have, it's worth seeing again.

by Anonymousreply 11205/15/2013

[quote]body cunt

Roy Cohn?

by Anonymousreply 11305/15/2013

Alvin Ailey?

by Anonymousreply 11405/15/2013

I'm not sure if it's a secret that he died of AIDS but was Dan Hartman out?

by Anonymousreply 11508/15/2013

[quote]Raul Julia didn't die from AIDS. HIs symptoms didn't match, and he died at a time when therapies were available.

In that recent documentary about Act UP they said 1995 was the worst year they faced. (I guess because hope was fading about the available drugs)

by Anonymousreply 11608/15/2013

[quote]Andy Warhol died of AIDS but New york Hospital and the art world in general covered it up so the market for his works wouldn't go south. I got this from the then director of the hospital, whose wife was a New York State judge. they frequented my restaurant on the Upper East Side.

This is NOT TRUE.

by Anonymousreply 11708/15/2013

Steve McQueen was bi- One of many sources at link

by Anonymousreply 11808/15/2013

Richard Nixon

by Anonymousreply 11908/15/2013

I knew an African-American New Yorker in the Navy back in the 80s who went to the same church were Rev. James Cleveland preached and said that he was a big ol' queen. So was this guy IIRC. He was engaged to be married, but constantly talked about homosexual men and which famous people were gay or not. He also knew about Luther Vandross and Keith Barrow AND Stephen Burrows...could not have been straight. Nice body too.

by Anonymousreply 12008/15/2013

Larry Reilly of Knot's Landing appeared on TV saying he was dying from Watermelons.

(no racial pun intended...this really happened folks...look it up)

by Anonymousreply 12108/15/2013


At the end of Dr.Dre's video he goes to Eazy E's grave.

I thought that was weird and out of no where the first time I saw the video.

by Anonymousreply 12208/15/2013

[quote]The people of sub Saharan Africa's immune systems are so compromised by the lack of clean water and other diseases, that they have a life expectancy of @35.

A friend and I were working on a project in one of those nations. At age 38, we were among the oldest men in that country.

by Anonymousreply 12308/15/2013

I know a few guys from the mid-late 90's Manhattan that could spin a Luther Vandross story or two. They might all be dead from free-basing, though.

by Anonymousreply 12408/15/2013

What about those celebrities who are alive, living with it, and pretend it doesn't exist? Such as Robert Downey Jr. and Tom Cruise. I would include Jon Claude van Damme, but he was drummed out off of the A-list when he made out with his boyfriend at a party in 1994 or 1995. Pretty harsh, huh?

by Anonymousreply 12508/15/2013

Van Damme was never A-List.

by Anonymousreply 12608/15/2013

[quote] What about those celebrities who are alive, living with it, and pretend it doesn't exist?

Like Courtney Love?

by Anonymousreply 12708/15/2013

The AIDS epidemic in Africa has been challenged for a long time. It has been said that (a)if the epidemic did exist, millions more would be dead, and that (b)the figures have been tweaked so that African countries can get more aid (no pun intended)for malaria and typhus. Do a Google search for the Rolling Stone article on this subject.

The number of gay and lesbian people in the black church is amazing. A good friend of mine who is black told me that to this day the choir is a perfect place for a dl black teenage guy.

by Anonymousreply 12808/15/2013

KiKi! KiKI! This board is too funny! "Al Sharpton in....."

by Anonymousreply 12908/15/2013


by Anonymousreply 13008/15/2013

r128, the reason for the inconsistent numbers was put forward in a book called The Origin of AIDS, by a researcher named Pepin.

His conclusion was that reusing needles in remote areas was responsible for AIDS spreading from very local areas to the whole continent.

He documented a very specific timeline. I wasn't totally convinced, especially about Haiti, but it was interesting reading.

by Anonymousreply 13108/15/2013

R118, the source for that link is Darwin Porter's book. He makes up the most outlandish BS. I wouldn't be surprised if he claimed Mickey Mouse is gay.

Sorry everyone, I'm not trying to divert the top at all this came to my mind as I was reading this thread. I read an article around a year ago that Jesse Jackson. Jesse Jackson was staying at a hotel and told one of the male employees he wanted him to help clean his room up. Jesse Jackson was staying in the hotel room because he had sex with a woman the night before. However, the man said Jesse Jackson stared at him and he unzipped his pants and demanded the guy give him a blow job. Apparently the guy sued Jackson for sexual harassment ,but it was settled out of court. Their most have been many other males in the past who were willing and did give Jackson a blow job if he was so confident. Why haven't I not herd about Jackson's bisexuality on DL before?

Has anyone on DL ever had sex with Jackson?

by Anonymousreply 13208/16/2013

Does anyone here think Aids goes back farther than the 80s? I think actor Lawrence Harvey might have died of AIDS. Remember this, what people thought was cancer some rich and famous men might have been dying of AIDS. Years ago people didn't have a clue.

by Anonymousreply 13308/16/2013

nah...r133 it would have spread like wildfire during the 60s

by Anonymousreply 13408/16/2013

This is scary... I know that educational level and socioeconomic status are big factors, but do you think all the bareback porn these days plays a part? Are young men just ignoring condoms and just taking their chances because the disease is treatable? I know it's not a death sentence anymore, but don't they know that it is still a fucking humongous burden on their lives?

by Anonymousreply 13508/16/2013

R135, my sister works at a sexual health clinic in a city if 3.5 million. Yes, there are young men who consider HIV a small wall to climb to be like all their friends.

I wish it weren't so.

by Anonymousreply 13608/16/2013

R104 and R132, read the diaries of Leo Lerman. Lerman casually tosses off an anecdote about a good looking guy at a party whom McQueen takes behind a tree and blows.

Really, wouldn't you wnat cock after having to look at Ali "Lady Ashley" MacGraw for years?

by Anonymousreply 13708/16/2013

Is Everyboday GAY??!!!

by Anonymousreply 13808/16/2013

r138 Take a dollar out of petty cash, THAT was the funniest post I've seen today.

by Anonymousreply 13908/16/2013

Wait a minute, Steve McQueen was a bottom? I find that hard to believe because I get the vibe that he would have been a top. What a sexy man!

by Anonymousreply 14008/17/2013

Lyle Alzado

by Anonymousreply 14108/17/2013

Remember that mysterious illness that caused Burt Reynolds to go into hiding back in the late 80s? There were reports of him falling into a deep depression. He might have even tried to commit suicide. There was talk at the time that he had AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 14208/17/2013

[quote]Doris Day is alive

That's what her former handlers want you to think.

by Anonymousreply 14308/17/2013

[quote]I would include Jon Claude van Damme, but he was drummed out off of the A-list when he made out with his boyfriend at a party in 1994 or 1995.

So they drummed him off the A-list and he went crawling back to Broadway!

by Anonymousreply 14408/17/2013

[quote]In that recent documentary about Act UP they said 1995 was the worst year they faced. (I guess because hope was fading about the available drugs)

How to Survive a Plague? Incredible piece of work. Any other year that would have won best documentary but Sugar Man couldn't be denied.

by Anonymousreply 14508/17/2013

[quote]Roy Cohn threatend to ruin anyone who speculated he had AIDS. He thought the "secret" went to his grave with him.

"You don't look so good, Roy."

by Anonymousreply 14601/31/2014

Darlings Jean Claude Van Damme was never on the A list let alone the B list or the D list for that matter......

by Anonymousreply 14701/31/2014

The soap industry is full of such cases: Terry Lester, Christopher Bernau, Joel Crothers, Ben Hendrickson. Dennis Parker's suicide was so shocking that it blew the lid off early on that his HIV diagnosis drove him to kill himself.

by Anonymousreply 14801/31/2014

I think I read that the earliest verifiable AIDS death took place in the early 1950s.

A scientist or doctor saved some tissue from the man who died, as he couldn't figure out what had killed the victim. The tissue was infected with the AIDS virus when it was tested 50 yrs later, which was only a few years ago, from what I remember.

This could indicate that AIDS was on a "slow burn" for a quarter century before exploding in the late 1970s/early 1980s.

Think of all the celebrities of dubious sexual orientation that died of "heart attacks", "pneumonia", "cancer", etc, between the 1950s & 1980s & speculate at your leisure.

by Anonymousreply 14901/31/2014

R141 I think the thought has crossed my mind that Lyle actually died of AIDS (or some AIDS-related cancer). Definitely.

Interesting how a huge public campaign was mounted that blamed his terminal illness entirely on steroids.

by Anonymousreply 15001/31/2014

Howard Rollins' name came up earlier in this thread. God Gawd, Howard Rollins was fine. When I watched movies like "Ragtime","A Soldier's Story", and "Little Boy King" - I was distracted by his gorgeousness. And he backed it up by first-rate acting - what a talent. He porked out a little on "In the Heat of the Night" - too bad that he couldn't keep in shape ala Denzel Washington - but he remained a pleasure to watch.

He seemed to be a troubled soul - seems that I remember him getting into some bizarre trouble around the Georgia town where they filmed "In the Heat of the Night". In fact, his troubles became so untenable that he was replaced on the show by Carl Weathers. His self-destruction was sad. I wouldn't be surprised if he died of something AIDS-related.

by Anonymousreply 15101/31/2014

Can someone translate R121? There's nothing online about Larry Riley and "watermelons." He hid that he had AIDS by saying he had a kidney ailment, for what it's worth.

by Anonymousreply 15201/31/2014

"Read Frank Langella 's book. He was Julia's best friend and even says he was completely heterosexual, but was in love with Raul and the only guy he would have slept with"

Not sure about Raul Julia, but Frank Langella is NOT heterosexual

by Anonymousreply 15301/31/2014

[r33] et al. I knew Raul personally he was not the type to hide anything, if he had AIDS he would have been open about it. He had a wife whom he loved very much and would not have wanted to put her in harm's way. He drank an awful lot. He had a very bad liver among other things and had a stroke on top of everything else. I worked with him. He was the nicest, kindest, happy and OPEN man I ever knew.

by Anonymousreply 15401/31/2014

"What about those celebrities who are alive, living with it, and pretend it doesn't exist? Such as Robert Downey Jr. and Tom Cruise. I would include Jon Claude van Damme, but he was drummed out off of the A-list when he made out with his boyfriend at a party in 1994 or 1995. Pretty harsh, huh?"

There were rumors that Michael Stipe had AIDS

by Anonymousreply 15501/31/2014

[r140] Stop Just stop.

by Anonymousreply 15601/31/2014

Yes (R141) I always thought Lyle Alzado died of AIDS

by Anonymousreply 15701/31/2014

I am so heterosexual. Just ask Raul.

by Anonymousreply 15801/31/2014

Back in the early 90s, a buddy of mine told me a joke that Magic Johnson was Gay and/or HIV+.

Within a couple of days, the story broke about his status.

My friend wasn't someone who would have been in a place where he'd be privy to up-coming Magic Johnson news.

It makes me wonder if MJs status resulted from something other than cheating on his wife with hundreds of thousands of women.

by Anonymousreply 15901/31/2014

[quote]There were rumors that Michael Stipe had AIDS

This is 100% true.

by Anonymousreply 16001/31/2014

Rumoured living celebs: Axel Rose & Elton John.

by Anonymousreply 16101/31/2014

Christopher George & Danny Kaye

by Anonymousreply 16201/31/2014

r163, details please!

by Anonymousreply 16302/01/2014

A Hispanic actor (Enrique?) on "Hill Street Blues" was still in the closest when he died of AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 16402/01/2014

Regarding female to male HIV transmission in Africa, being uncircumcised is a huge risk factor. When you add the high incidence of STDs, another huge risk factor, then there is a probable explanation for the prevalence of AIDS there.

by Anonymousreply 16502/01/2014

R167, see R108.

by Anonymousreply 16602/01/2014

There were also rumors going around in the 80s or early 90s that Prince and/or Michael Jackson had AIDS

by Anonymousreply 16702/01/2014

Arthur Ashe got AIDS from gay sex?

by Anonymousreply 16804/23/2014

Well R171, no hospital was ever sued for his allegedly contracting AIDS from a blood transfusion so.....

by Anonymousreply 16904/23/2014

At the height of the plague it became such a graveyard that a social walker told me the Park Avenue matrons were bitching to each other that they had been reduced to using the the assistants of their hairdresser's assistants.

by Anonymousreply 17004/23/2014


by Anonymousreply 17104/23/2014

R172 I know hospitals have been sued in such incidences, but how do the plaintiffs have a case if an AIDS test wasn't available yet? Were the blood screeners supposed to ask more intrusive questions about the sexual habits of donors? I'm sure THAT would have gone over really well with gay rights activists. So what exactly were they supposed to do?

I'm sure if it happened to a family member of mine I would want to sue out of anger if nothing else, but I'm just wondering on what grounds the plaintiffs had a case.

by Anonymousreply 17204/23/2014

What about that other football player, John Matuszak?

by Anonymousreply 17304/23/2014

R172, I have no idea how Ashe contracted AIDS, but he had open heart surgery in 1979 and 1983. Blood supplies for transfusions weren't tested for HIV antibodies until 1985. The test only became available in March 1985.

If no hospital was testing blood products for HIV because a test hadn't yet been devised, it's hard to see how there would have been sufficient grounds for a lawsuit.

by Anonymousreply 17404/23/2014

R177 - that's what I was saying upthread. However, I do know of a family who sued a hospital in a class action suit - and won - even though the woman's husband had open heart surgery in 1984, before the test was available.

Considering what she went through I didn't think it was exactly polite to ask on what basis she (and the other parties in the suit) had a case. But apparently she had one (I think she got a couple million out of it).

Also, people who contract AIDS via transfusions typically succumb much sooner then people who contract it sexually.

by Anonymousreply 17504/23/2014

For what it's worth - the son of my dad's best friend was a big trainer to the stars in the 80s and 90s. he told me before Magic Johnson came out as HIV positive, that he was known to sleep with men. A lot. He was known to frequent steam rooms too.

I didn't believe him at the time -

by Anonymousreply 17604/23/2014

I figure the truth about Magic will have to wait until after his death, although its been so long since his announcement most people of this generation dont even care

by Anonymousreply 17704/23/2014

John Mastuzak?

by Anonymousreply 17804/23/2014

info on Christopher George please?

I remember getting hold of a Playgirl when I was very young and wow he was hot

Gay? Bi? How do we know?

by Anonymousreply 17904/23/2014

Gregory Hines' early death from liver cancer always seemed suspect to me.

by Anonymousreply 18004/23/2014


by Anonymousreply 18104/23/2014

I thought the same thing too R183.

by Anonymousreply 18204/23/2014

Wait -- Farrah?

Our Farrah?

by Anonymousreply 18304/25/2014

Alvin Ailey (probably already mentioned).

Probably not a big secret, but publicly attributed to something else.

by Anonymousreply 18404/25/2014

[quote]Can someone translate [R121]? There's nothing online about Larry Riley and "watermelons."

r155 he went on Entertainment Tonight to deny AIDS rumors. He said he had lost weight due to being on a watermelon only diet. The poor guy was really sick and erratic on the show (and deeply in denial)

by Anonymousreply 18504/25/2014

I'm the person who originally broached the subject of Raul julia over a year ago. I was just scanning this old thread and saw the mentions about Gregory Hines towards the end. I have absolutely no proof or insider info, but I would bet a month's salary that Mr. hines did indeed die from hiv/aids. i would say that of all the questionable celebrity deaths n the past 15 years, his is the one I feel the most strongly was covered up.

by Anonymousreply 18604/25/2014

Lyle Alzado? Spelling? (Back off grammer/spelling troll, auto correct keeps putting "Alfredo")

by Anonymousreply 18704/25/2014

Arthur Ashe contracted AIDS thru a blood transfusion in connection with his treatment for open heart surgery. He said as much and it was discussed openly. Arthur's death was one of the strongest arguments to get blood products tested.

They were still working on a test for HIV but they had used the Hepatitis test and it proved pretty accurate. The delay was due more to reluctance to incur the costs.

As for Magic Johnson, he openly admitted he was very promiscuous while in the NBA, and he contracted AIDS from one of his female sex partners who was also Positive, from being an IV drug user.

I think Rudolph Nureyev and Perry Ellis were only identified as AIDS victims after their death. Not sure. Pneumonia and various cancers, especially Leukemia and pancreatic cancer, or liver disease were cited as ways to hide an HIV death. Halston died of AIDS didn't he?

by Anonymousreply 18804/25/2014

"As for Magic Johnson, he openly admitted he was very promiscuous while in the NBA, and he contracted AIDS from one of his female sex partners who was also Positive, from being an IV drug user."

That's what he claimed

by Anonymousreply 18904/25/2014

R191 You are a chick right?

by Anonymousreply 19004/25/2014

[quote] Also, people who contract AIDS via transfusions typically succumb much sooner then people who contract it sexually.

The longest survivor I have met is a straight woman who used to be my neighbor. She was among the first batch of known cases in Canada to contract HIV through blood transfusion. She's still alive (she's in her late 50s or early 60s), healthy, and married.

by Anonymousreply 19104/25/2014

Uh, no, I'm not, R193, not last time I looked which was about 20 minutes ago when I peed standing up. I'm an old queen if you must know.

This thread is a speculative thread about secret AIDS deaths. I'm just telling you what I know and remember. As far as I know Magic isn't gay, nor was Arthur Ashe.

Unfortunately the politics were such during those terrible years, that the only way AIDS victims could get any recognition or help was to publicize the spread of AIDS in the Het community too.

Those of us who lived through those horrible times will not forget the inhumane treatment. One of the reasons people kept the cause of death a secret was because they had to deal with a lot of shit from it.

My personal impression about Raul Julia is that he died of AIDS. How he got it, I'm not sure. I do remember he was making some movie or something that placed him in the Brazilian rainforests and he looked like a dead man walking. emaciated and frail and it was terrible to see. I can't believe any one would hire him and not realize he was very sick.

by Anonymousreply 19204/25/2014

Howard E Rollins Jr.?

Miles Davis?

Debby Boone?

by Anonymousreply 19304/25/2014

There's nothing secret about Miles Davis' AIDS-related death.

by Anonymousreply 19404/25/2014

really r197? Does Miss Tyson know?

by Anonymousreply 19504/25/2014

Well, I knew it back in 1991, and I was living in Europe at the time. There, it was reported as the cause of death.

by Anonymousreply 19604/25/2014

[all posts by childish idiot removed]

by Anonymousreply 19704/25/2014

Steve McQueen was in the merchant marine and exposed to asbestos, which is why he got cancer and died. He was desperate - he wanted to be able to keep going for his children. That was a very sad death.

by Anonymousreply 19804/25/2014

I think I knew anyway that Nureyev had AIDS while he was still alive. I don't think it was a secret. Ray Sharkey as far as I know died of AIDS too.

by Anonymousreply 19904/25/2014

This thread so reminds me of my mom. Anytime a celebrity died relatively young, and sort of mysteriously (or of a certain type of cancer), she would always pipe up..."I bet he really had AIDS." She brought up just about everyone mentioned here. Michael Landon (who I really don't think had AIDS). Raul Julia (maybe). Etc etc.

I haven't gone through all of these but what about Andy Warhol? Werent there rumors that New York Presbyterian covered it up?

And what about people who are alive who are suspected to be HIV + . Calvin Klein? Who else?

by Anonymousreply 20004/25/2014

jfk was one of the first. he got it in a joint cia mafia plot. later the cia perfected the disease getting rid of the extreme swelling of the brain.

by Anonymousreply 20104/26/2014

Thomas Tryon,The Cardinal

by Anonymousreply 20204/26/2014

There have been rumors about Michael Stipe having AIDS

by Anonymousreply 20304/26/2014

[quote]Back off [bold]grammer[/bold]/spelling troll

You might want to ask him back again, and [italic]then[/italic] tell him to back off.

by Anonymousreply 20404/26/2014

Miles Davis was a herion addict but did he also like poles and holes as well? I always wondered about him.

by Anonymousreply 20604/26/2014

F&F r208, who is quickly spreading her toxicity to other threads.

by Anonymousreply 20704/26/2014

When did Jackie Kennedy Onassis allegedly have an affair with Rudolf Nureyev? Me soooo curious

by Anonymousreply 20804/26/2014

Didn't Roy Schneider, the guy who played Chief Brody in Jaws, die of AIDS?

by Anonymousreply 20904/26/2014

[all posts by childish idiot removed]

by Anonymousreply 21004/26/2014

has anyone been following the pix of Bill Clinton? Is he in the AIDS closet as well? No one can look that emaciated from heart surgery.

by Anonymousreply 21105/23/2014

Craig Claiborne

by Anonymousreply 21205/27/2014

"Does anyone here think AIDS goes back farther than the 80s?"

A few years ago there was an off-Broadway musical review about the Hollywood/Broadway choreographer Jack Cole. I can recall reading an interview with someone who speculated that Cole's sudden death in 1974 at the age of 63, may have been caused by AIDS, in hindsight.

The Shah of Iran is always someone I wondered about, based on pics I saw of him in his final days.

by Anonymousreply 21305/27/2014

Jamie foxx is poz. I know some people who are close to him. He's had it for quite some time, but he has always been careful to make sure no one finds out.

by Anonymousreply 21405/04/2016

[quote]I can also confirm that Jim Henson's death had nothing to do with AIDS.

I disagree

by Anonymousreply 21505/04/2016

[quote]Steve McQueen was in the merchant marine and exposed to asbestos,

It takes about 15 years of exposure to asbestos to get Mesothelioma and it takes about 40 years to progress. Most people that get it have it from working in the mines. There is 75% rate of Mesothelioma from asbestos.

Simian virus 40 is another cause of Mesothelioma. 90% of children and 60% of adults got it from contaminated polio vaccines.

by Anonymousreply 21605/04/2016

Half of you dimwits don't know the different between between being HIV+ and being diagnosed with AIDS and dying of its horrible results.

by Anonymousreply 21705/04/2016

Marlon Brando

Michael Jackson


Miles Davis

by Anonymousreply 21809/24/2016

Marlon Brando? He was like 80 and massively overweight.

by Anonymousreply 21909/24/2016


by Anonymousreply 22001/19/2017

Prince owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 22101/19/2017

Prince, George Michael, Whitey Houston, Joe Pepitone.

by Anonymousreply 22201/24/2017

Whitney? Now come on, that's stretching it, or are you believing crack is whack?

by Anonymousreply 22301/24/2017

At least one former NFL player who died in the 90s (that I know of)

by Anonymousreply 22401/24/2017

Did the press confirm David Bowie's death as AIDS?

by Anonymousreply 22501/24/2017


AIDS dementia set in and kept her from getting out of the tub. She had no teef as they say, she was infested with HIV

by Anonymousreply 22601/24/2017

James Coco

by Anonymousreply 22701/24/2017

Robert Palmer

by Anonymousreply 22801/24/2017

The dude from In the Heat of the Night, didn't he die of an awfully sad death from AIDS? what about Rick James? I've always suspected he had the house in Virginia.

by Anonymousreply 22901/24/2017

Cardinal Bernadine of Chicago.

by Anonymousreply 23001/24/2017

[quote]AIDS dementia set in and kept her from getting out of the tub. She had no teef as they say, she was infested with HIV

Meth can do the same thing. I think it's far reaching to say she had AIDS. Plus, Whitney's weight was never affected. Crack kept her trim, but she wasn't deathly skinny and fried her voice.

by Anonymousreply 23101/25/2017

Brad Davis? Didn't they lie about his cause of death? The wife thought he was, uh, straight.

by Anonymousreply 23201/25/2017

r232 they were honest about him having aids.....but they insisted it was from needles. The wife even wrote a book which is just full of disillusions.

by Anonymousreply 23301/25/2017

Walter Payton. His liver condition was rare and some folks with AIDS do contract it.

by Anonymousreply 23401/25/2017

Lyle Alzado, Paul Mitchell, Walter Payton

by Anonymousreply 23501/31/2017

Sweetness? Really?

by Anonymousreply 23601/31/2017

What did Malcolm Forbes die from? It was later announced he had a gay twink bf in lower Manhattan. I heard rumors he was gay for years.

by Anonymousreply 23701/31/2017

Malcolm Forbes couldn't have been gay! He dated Liz Taylor!

by Anonymousreply 23802/01/2017

Freddy Mercury didn't announce his true cause of death.

by Anonymousreply 23902/01/2017

Bonnie Franklin for sure, she was a wanton whore you know.

by Anonymousreply 24002/01/2017

Steve Jobs. Yeah, pancreatic cancer might or might not have been the immediate cause, but it was underlying.

by Anonymousreply 24102/04/2017

Raul Julia had AIDS. Go look at photos of his deterioration.

by Anonymousreply 24202/04/2017

Yes, Raul Julia died of AIDS. The World Aids Day We Remember Our Soaps, had him listed as a victim of AIDS. I certainly think Rick James lived with the virus, and had AIDS when he died. Natalie Cole was taking Interferon, like her brother Kelly who died from the virus. In an interview Natalie did, seems like she was trying to tell us, she had the virus from her risky sexual past and IV drug addiction. There is no doubt, she died of AIDS as well

by Anonymousreply 24302/06/2017

Not that I care in the least, but there were rumblings in LA for years about Magic Johnson being bi before he came clean about being poz. Few gays were all that surprised when it hit (at least the ones who had seen him in person out and about). Matthew Mcconaughey can be added to the list with Jaime Foxx and Robert Downey Jr. A friend of a friend lives in Austin, TX, knows Sandra Bullock well and says that Matt's sexuality is somewhat well-kept industry secret but that he likes men more than women. It was implied that he is also positive. No clue - just gossip.

by Anonymousreply 24402/06/2017

I thought Luther Vandross was diabetic, and had a stroke that he never recovered from.

by Anonymousreply 24502/07/2017

R244, It would be pretty risky for a person in his condition to lose all of that weight for Dallas Buyers Club. That's why I have a hard time believing the rumor.

by Anonymousreply 24602/07/2017

r246 If only regular people's sexuality had as much protection as celebrities' have.

by Anonymousreply 24702/07/2017

R247, I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean.

by Anonymousreply 24802/07/2017

R222 Joe Pepitone is alive and is not POZ.

by Anonymousreply 24902/07/2017

R244 Is Bullock bi or gay?

by Anonymousreply 25002/07/2017

R244 a friend was a bartender in an upscale restaurant in SoHo in NYC Matthew McConaughey was there and was cruising him the entire time he was having dinner and drinks with friends.

by Anonymousreply 25102/07/2017


by Anonymousreply 25202/07/2017

Shirley Booth

by Anonymousreply 25302/07/2017

There have been poz-rumours about RDJ since his stint in prison, even on other boards outside the DL. Back when the blind-item about a A-list actor with H.I.V came out there was gossip that it was about him, however that Charlie Sheen's pr people thought that it was about Charlie and that's why Charlie came out as poz. Also check out the blind item below.

by Anonymousreply 25402/07/2017

R254, that BI sounds like RDJ and Sarah Jessica Parker (note the "city" reference). She's never said much about that relationship, despite the fact that they were together for a long time.

by Anonymousreply 25502/07/2017

Do you think George Michael died of AIDS? Why haven't they released his body for burial yet?

by Anonymousreply 25602/07/2017

Gregory Hines

by Anonymousreply 25702/07/2017

It isn't just celebrities. A local haberdasher in our community, someone who was very prominent, married two grown kids, on his third wife, a society maven, when he died. He was always a tall slender man. But then he started looking emaciated, gaunt. His wife said it was a "medical condition" he was being treated for and put it about that he had Prostate Cancer. This was in the mid 80's. But then he died of "pneumonia" after disappearing from public view for about 6 months. Later we discovered he was Bi. Clearly AIDS.

Remember A Chorus Line? Michael Bennett and later Donna McKechnie both died of AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 25802/07/2017

hey kellyann Conway at @r258 your alternate reality is showing. Donna McKechnie is very much alive.

by Anonymousreply 25902/07/2017

Oops. I thought she died.


by Anonymousreply 26002/07/2017

eddie long, the megachurch pastor who was accused of molesting young men under the excuse of spiritual guidance, likely died from AIDS recently but the church's official cause is "cancer" (which means nothing, AIDS can lead to cancer).

by Anonymousreply 26102/07/2017

R255 also the pose with the hand the guy in the BI's picture looks very much like a typical pose RDJ does as Ironman...

by Anonymousreply 26202/07/2017

Anthony Michael Hall

by Anonymousreply 26302/07/2017

Michael Stipe looks like he is poz!

by Anonymousreply 26402/07/2017

I have heard Stipe is positive.

by Anonymousreply 26502/07/2017

Do we honestly believe that Steve Jobs had AIDS? I never really even had a moment where I thought that. But he *was* notorious for not following the treatment plan/interventions doctor had recommended for him. He was a bit of a brilliant nutjob, that one.

by Anonymousreply 26602/07/2017

R263 he's very much alive.

by Anonymousreply 26702/07/2017

R256: I don't believe he died of AIDS, but I do believe he was Poz.

by Anonymousreply 26802/07/2017

R239: Freddie Mercury DID make an announcement just before he died. He said he had AIDS. I remember it well. You can also google it. He died shortly after his announcement of AIDS related pneumonia.

by Anonymousreply 26902/07/2017

R221: Yes, Prince had AIDS and stopped taking his meds believing God would cure him. However, he died of a drug overdose (after the AIDS leak). His family/publicist/fans pushed the drug addict story to cover the AIDS/Bi rumors and protect his wacky JW legacy.

by Anonymousreply 27002/07/2017

I can attest that Matthew McConaughey is gay/bi. I lived in Austin at the time and know firsthand.

by Anonymousreply 27102/07/2017

Matt's wife was most likely a beard. She dated Maxwell. Matt is a bisexual sex addict.

by Anonymousreply 27202/07/2017

R271 Knowing first hand would mean that you were present while MM had sex with another man. So, do you really know first hand? In which case, give up the details.

by Anonymousreply 27302/07/2017

Harold Rollins was known to hit the baths in NYC and in DC. As well as Rock Creek Park in DC. Sad. So handsome and talented. Jackie O was allegedly poz, wasn't she?

by Anonymousreply 27402/07/2017

Jackie O?! Are you kidding me? I don't believe that for a second.

by Anonymousreply 27502/07/2017

I do believe Magic Johnson is not bi but closeted gay and that's how he got HIV. Look at his son, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree!

by Anonymousreply 27602/07/2017

There was a list or something with the names of certain celebs and their orientation written by an alleged hollywood-insider circulating around years ago and on said list McBongo was listed as "pansexual".

by Anonymousreply 27702/07/2017

r277 - i can believe that. he just seems like a horndog and would be willing to do any willing hole or get blown by any mouth.

by Anonymousreply 27802/07/2017

R274 Harold Rollins? Do you mean HOWARD Rollins, Jr.?

by Anonymousreply 27902/07/2017

I live next to half the people in this thread. They affirm that all of those are gay and have AIDS. Also, I have friends who own restaurants in various cities who have all been cruised by the other half listed in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 28002/07/2017

Give us some clues! R280 PLEASE!!!!

by Anonymousreply 28102/07/2017

I knew Raul Julia's son in college when I looked like I was dying of aids abusing drugs. I'm being facetious but he was a very nice down to earth person. I bet he doesn't even remember me. I was doing a project on his music.

by Anonymousreply 28202/07/2017

There are some dicey stories about McConaughey going around in Austin but none I've heard are gay. He picked up a girl in a bar and took her home. When she got there, she didn't want to put out (maybe she thought playing hard to get would get her a longer relationship than a one nighter?). He got furious and threw her out naked in the street (this was pre cell phones) in the middle of the night. She had to walk back into town from Tarrytown (no buses in Austin). Well known story in Austin, she made a lot of noise about it (and probably considered suing him).

Only other gossip I know is about Jackie O. Doubt if she had AIDS. If she did, she sure had a lot of health issues. About a year before her death, before she was diagnosed with cancer, she began to lose it. Her mother had Alzheimer and it seems like Jackie had early onset. If she actually had cancer as well as Alzheimer's - who knows. In any case she ended her own life.

by Anonymousreply 28302/07/2017

I forgot about bishop eddie long, he had HIV but his death was caused by cancer. His weight was cancer-drastic not 80's AIDS drastic, since AIDS does not look like that anymore. They die plump and chubby now from the steroids and that bloated AIDS tummy, not emaciated. He had HIV and cancer, but not AIDS

by Anonymousreply 28402/09/2017

"I forgot about bishop eddie long, he had HIV but his death was caused by cancer. "

People with AIDS are highly susceptible to cancer.

by Anonymousreply 28502/09/2017

R88, the guy who played Carlos on "The Flying Nun" was Alejandro Rey, and he was HOT. After TFN ended, he spent a lot of time on the 1970s game show circuit--including doing "Tattletales" with his wife.

Did any of you Eldergays know him? What's the scoop? Was he closeted? Very little info is available online because he died in 1987 and wasn't a huge star.

by Anonymousreply 28602/09/2017

If you think Steve Jobs DIDN'T die of AIDS then you must think Donald Trump DIDN'T win the election.

by Anonymousreply 28702/09/2017

layout the evidence...why does anyone think JOBS died of AIDS? You are right, AIDS victims are susceptible to cancer, and likely the kind he had. I want to change my answer to, bishop eddie long likely died of AIDS related cancer. Is there an edit button in this place? Thanks

by Anonymousreply 28802/09/2017

He's a homo with obvious AIDS wasting syndrome. If you want to believe he was hit by a bus, go ahead, it's just as valid as anything thing else because he's dead.

by Anonymousreply 28902/10/2017

Steve Jobs was gay? I never liked him, so I never thought about it.

by Anonymousreply 29002/10/2017

Where's the proof Jobs was gay? He was deeply misogynistic but that reads nasty straight guy to me.

by Anonymousreply 29102/10/2017

I was always confused about the Jobs AIDS tumors as well. The wasting people point out can easily be attributed to his cancer and change in diet. I'm all ears though.

by Anonymousreply 29202/10/2017


by Anonymousreply 29302/10/2017

notice how the Wikipedia articles referencing Robert Reed's death have been changed to "colon cancer."

by Anonymousreply 29402/18/2017

R286 Rey was not gay. His fiery Argentine persona was inspiration to Sally Field. She learned to stand up for herself from him and his example on The Flying Nun.

by Anonymousreply 29502/18/2017

R165 That has been disproven . The foreskin supposedly helps stops HIV transmission. If circumcision was so ffective why doesn't the US have low rates of STDS here with high rates of circumcision.

by Anonymousreply 29602/18/2017

Steve Jobs wasn't gay. It was a long battle, but he eventually died of cancer. End of story.

by Anonymousreply 29702/18/2017

Now, to talk about some real truth. . .

[quote]I thought Luther Vandross was diabetic, and had a stroke that he never recovered from.

Luther was gay and fat for years. Then, suddenly, he dramatically lost weight. Yes, diabetes can do that, but it doesn't make you lose over a hundred pounds. Then, he gains some weight and then lose it.

[quote]ABC News: Vandross — who has lost more than 100 pounds 13 other times — said he's finally figured out the secret to losing 100 pounds and keeping it off.

Who loses 100 pounds -- 13 times!

No one -- not even a diabetic.

by Anonymousreply 29802/18/2017

Donna Summers, Natalie Cole and Vanity

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by Anonymousreply 30103/03/2017

Aluno Babbubala. A little-known yiddish comic popular in certain parts of the East Village. Tragic.

by Anonymousreply 30203/03/2017

Patrick Swayze?

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by Anonymousreply 30506/13/2017

I am happy about survivors, Hugo Weaving, Guy Pearce and Terrance Stamp.

by Anonymousreply 30606/13/2017

I remember some of the very first deaths, a 24 year old dying of pneumonia, or a young black guy dying of skin cancer. Then I saw my first diagnosed patient, a female prostitute suffering for months. She was at the hospital I worked at...getting written up for carrying her spinal fluid without gloves.

by Anonymousreply 30706/13/2017

The wife of Brad Davis knew he died of aids...I think she thought he got it from needles?

by Anonymousreply 30806/13/2017

R269, You are right. If I remember correctly, the Freddie Mercury announcement that he had AIDS came just a day or two before he died.

by Anonymousreply 30906/13/2017

Ugly and interesting topic, and thread.

The number of families who have hidden deaths due to AIDS or any other communicable disease is probably dwarfed by the number who have hidden deaths by suicide or overdose. Many, many obituaries are silent as to cause, especially for people who die suddenly and young.

Unless suspicions of foul play result in criminal charges, what business is it of anyone outside the family what anyone, anywhere, dies from?

by Anonymousreply 31006/13/2017

inquiring nosey people like myself just want to know, whats wrong with that? i want to see the morbid side of slutty, druggie, irresponsible behavior, i just do. i think threads like this, reminds people of its danger and prevalence. what do you think, do you agree or not?

by Anonymousreply 31106/15/2017

Florence Henderson

by Anonymousreply 31206/17/2017

Zoe Lund

by Anonymousreply 31306/17/2017

Putin (eventually)

by Anonymousreply 31406/17/2017

Bob monkhouse

by Anonymousreply 31506/17/2017

Several high profile English aristocrats, including a Marquess and an Earl.

by Anonymousreply 31606/17/2017

The 2nd Earl of Avon is one of the known ones.

by Anonymousreply 31706/17/2017

R316, which ones?

by Anonymousreply 31806/18/2017

John Lennon

by Anonymousreply 31906/18/2017

Nicholas Eden, Earl of Avon "died after a long illness"

by Anonymousreply 32006/18/2017

There's suspicion about the sad fate of Grant Williams. He was best known as a leading man in Universal Sci-Fi movies like "The Monolith Monsters," "The Leech Woman," and especially "The Incredible Shrinking Man." He was on TV's "Hawaiian Eye" too. Really great-looking and talented guy whose career never took off like it should've. He died in 1985 at age 54 of peritonitis following a bout with blood poisoning. You take into account his age, the time period, and the fact that he never married or was even publicly attached to anyone in Hollywood and you have to wonder.

by Anonymousreply 32106/18/2017

Yassir Arafat. He was the biggest queen and an even bigger bottom.

by Anonymousreply 32206/18/2017

Arthur was an intensely serous ‘take no prisoners’ sort of guy…especially about Civil rights. Like many black men in the public eye he was articulate and probably too serious for his own good. He contracted AIDS through a blood transfusion during heart surgery. Like many black men in the public eye, he felt that Civil Rights was a crucial task for him. And like many prominent black men he died early from heart trouble. Does anyone remember his cool and collected non-responses to that creature Nastase, who could barely speak English, yet was able to taunt and yell racial slurs at Ashe during tennis matches. I remember the commentator saying ,”Ashe has ice water in his veins” …that can take a toll on your health. He may have had an appetite for men, but what is more likely was his true concern for Civil Rights!

by Anonymousreply 32306/18/2017

Grant Williams was gorgeous

by Anonymousreply 32406/19/2017

The Marquis of Dufferin and Ava.

by Anonymousreply 32506/19/2017

The Marquis of Bristol

by Anonymousreply 32606/19/2017

Arndt von Bohlen und Halbach, the last Krupp heir. Died of 'liver failure', although no one believes it for a moment. Just like the 'death' of his great grandfather after the exposé of his orgies with Capri boys.

A photo with Mummy.

by Anonymousreply 32706/19/2017

Rory Cameron

by Anonymousreply 32806/19/2017

Bambi Bembaneck-hospice for liver and kidney failure, Donna Summers, and all the 70's female sluts, Natalie Cole-loved her for her transparency, she even admitted she was a slut for drugs, and probably because it was a little fun. Robert Ulrich, Bill Bixby, Lyle Alzado, Bert Convy, Micheal Landon, black guy from 70's named skreek/skreech...something like that. He started doing porn, then male porn, got AIDS, and died in mid 90's. He had a weirdness to his voice, it was a little high pitched and mid pitch voice sounded very similar to, i dont know, two automobiles colliding, lol, he just had a weird voice. Did i miss anybody?

by Anonymousreply 32906/21/2017

Donna Summer? She died from cancer a few years ago. What does that have to do with AIDS?

by Anonymousreply 33006/21/2017

Dom DeLuise?

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by Anonymousreply 33206/26/2017

[bold]Some of the names listed in this thread:[/bold]

Alejandro Rey

Alvin Ailey

Andy Warhol

Bert Convy

Bill Bixby

Brad Davis

Donna Summer

Bishop Eddie Long

Frank Reynolds

George Michael

George Peppard

Gregory Hines

Guru (rapper)

Henry Mancini

Howard Hughes

Howard Rollins

Reverend James Cleveland

James Coco

John Inman

Keith Barrow

Larry Riley

Lenny Baker

Luther Vandross

Lyle Alzado

Malcolm Forbes

Princess Margaret

Max Robinson

Michael Landon

Miles Davis

Natalie Cole

Perry Ellis


Raul Julia

Ray Sharkey

Rene Enriquez

Robert Urich

Shah of Iran

Steve Jobs


Walter Peyton

Yasser Arafat

[bold]Allegedly HIV+ according to this DL thread:[/bold]

Al Sharpton (see R20 and R38 for additional gossip)

Axl Rose

Burt Reynolds (R142)

Calvin Klein

Elton John

Jamie Foxx (R244)

Jean Claude Van Damme (R155)

Matthew McConaughey (R244)

Michael Stipe

Robert Downey, Jr.

Stephen Burrows

[quote]I remember Bob Hope saying that "some big names" actually died of Aids; but was listed as something else. No one followed up on that question.


[quote]Several high profile English aristocrats, including a Marquess and an Earl.


I'm surprised to see Bill Bixby and Robert Urich named in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 33310/09/2017

Prince owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 33410/09/2017

If Raul Julia drank a lot, could that have been the cause of his death. I worked with a man who drank. It affected his pancreas and he looked like that picture of Raul even after being off work for months. Stopped drinking, lived for a few years.

by Anonymousreply 33510/09/2017

Patrick Swayze-his death did seem like it had all the hallmarks of an AIDS=related death, We know there are many closeted gay performers in Hollywood and Swayze's public profile had to be preserved as the death of a talented dancer and actor (his work as a dancer well into the 80s was almost always the same area where so many male dancers publicly died as a result of HIV-related causes.) Swayze was the only straight one and then died an unexplained cancer death?

by Anonymousreply 33610/09/2017

I read on a DL French gossip thread that Jacques Demy died of Aids and was in fact bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 33710/09/2017
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