God's Own Country: Part 1

What’s this movie about?

There was no need to write "part 1" because this will never get a second thread.

R1, a gay love story. Almost as good as CMBYN.

Part 1, really? It's not like we've been discussing this movie since June or anything...

No, it's better. And better than that condescendingly self-pitying Brokeback Mountain, too.

[quote] There was no need to write "part 1" because this will never get a second thread.

You post one more thing about that pretentious dago pedo schlock and every other thread about it will get filled up with this. Do you hear me? We are fucking sick of hearing about it. Sick, sick, sick, sick, sick! Give it a rest.

The movie does look promising. I love Josh O'Connor in the feel-good drama show The Durrells (in Corfu).

I figured it’s a gay love story but what’s the plot exactly?

The critics absolutely love it. I can't even find out who distributes it in the US.

'Part 1' lmao. Gotta love the optimism.

[quote] I figured it’s a gay love story but what’s the plot exactly?

Google IS your friend.

According to the Youtube clip it is the the second best gay movie to watch this year.

Sorry, forgot the link

The YouTube clip needs to get the numbering correct because this is the best gay movie of the year, not that dago pedophile crap.

When is coming on DVD and On Demand.

January for streaming.

I'll never understand those desperate "which / who is better?" pissing contests. God's Own Country is a beautiful movie on its own and doesn't need to be compared to other movies like Call Me By Your Name or Brokeback Mountain.

GOC is the only one of those that are any good, honestly. BBM was overrated but better than the film that beat it for the Best Picture Oscar, and that other film just makes me sick to my stomach.

Penises! Hooray!

It makes me sick that films barely get any chance in theaters before getting dumped into the swamp of streaming.

It’s not in theaters anymore?

No, it was out for about 1 week in the UK in October I think

R6 do you need a snickers

R23, you type fat.

R24 you type rude

It had a very long run at the IFC Center in NYC... it's been playing since at least early October, and just ended its run tonight.

I can’t help it. I only saw Neach Rats (I liked it. Loved lead actor) but didn’t compare to BBM. I wonder when I see CMBYN if it would be just as good. I think I will like God’s Country because it doesn’t have the typical sad ending (someone has to die!) and that CMBYN has a hopeful ending.

I consider Maurice the best gay movie.

God's Own Country is by far the best gay movie of 2017.

CMBYN is nowhere near as good as this.

I like this review from the other thread.

CMBYN Fans hating on GOC because they cant accept the fact that it is a way better film than CMBYN.

And if we are talking about the best gay movie, it definitely goes for Handsome Devil. Innocent and non-sexual, yet carries a very positive message. I felt good after watching that film.

Handsome Devil was excellent (far better than CMBYN) but was a more stereotypical coming of age story. That's not a criticism it's more that it was a reinterpretation of an oft told story. Very lovely for sure, but I thought GOC was more original and edgy (in a good way I mean, not in the pedo sense of CMBYN).

R31 Welp, havent seen it yet. But looking forward to it

Amazon indicates the DVD will be available January 30th.

Has anyone seen 120 battements par minute?

Loved Handsome Devil I think it is the same caliber as Get Real but BBM and Maurice are in a higher level I norminally hate gay movies with out sex and nudity (like the cowardly Moonlight)HD I didn’t care. For some crazy reason Tom of Finland has none.

Not yet, R34, but I've heard it's also the best gay film of 2017. I don't care which one is best, I'm happy to see so many excellent films coming out.

R34 The original thread for that movie is at the link below but it never went anywhere. I've heard nothing but good reviews.

Doesn't 120 battements par minute get a world wide release in 2018 and it's just viewed at festivals so far? Does it still make it a 2017 release when it's just seen in festivals? Or is it a movie which doesn't get a movie theatre release outside the festiva circuit and goes straight to streaming / DVD / VOD / etc.?

Beats didn’t make short list for Best Foreign Film?

R39 No :(

R38 The latter, probably. It's only set to open in the UK on 6 April, almost a year after it was shown at Cannes.

R39 No, there was a thread about it getting snubbed from that category but I can't find it anywhere. I think it was deleted for some reason?

R34 I just finished watching it an hour ago. I dont know what to think of it since its my first time watching an AIDS-themed gay movie, and I cant say I can really relate to it either.

But I do like they're spreading awareness and I DID LIKE the film overall. The sex scenes are also very realistic and hot. No nudity(except butt) but convincing.

I dont know about being the best gay movie of 2017 though. I think I liked Center Of My World(even though its heartbreaking) and Something Like Summer better.

BUT-- I haven't watched GOC and Tom of Finland yet, so.. I can't tell.

If you count short films, then In A Heartbeat could possibly be the best gay movie of 2017.

Does anyone know if the secondary character of 120 BPM is gay? Or is he just supportive?

[quote]When is coming on DVD and On Demand.

It’s only available on iTunes.

Handsome Devil was good, but it had no gay love story.

Many years ago France did a great movie of the early days of the AIDS crisis in France called The Wittnesses.

[quote] It’s only available on iTunes.

If you're talking about God's Own Country, iTunes indicates that it is available for pre-order, and will be released on January 30th (same as Amazon.)

Here is Amazon's current best sellers ranking for the film --

#1 in LGBT- Movies and TV DVD

#19 in Romance- Movies and TV DVD

#42 in Drama- Movies and TV DVD

[quote] If you count short films, then In A Heartbeat could possibly be the best gay movie of 2017.

That is at least the best animated movie I've seen this year so far. It has everything you could want in a gay teen romance: it's not creepy or pervy, it's not self-pitying, it's not bogged down in pomo/alphabet soup crap, it's just a well-made film about a gay boy following his heart to the boy of his dreams.

Why do American gay movies leave so much to be desired compared to European and English ones? Heck, even compared to Israeli ones.

r51, The UK has National Lottery funding movies.

A lot of countries finance movies to showcase their country and its culture.

It's only coming to DVD in America and the Blu-ray coming to the UK is Region B locked.

Right now I hate both breeders and Americans. I really fucking do. And I really hate Uncle Tom gays who refuse to support a great gay movie that's actually by, for, and about gay people, and throw it on the sword for more breeder-feeder pandering with overtones of pederasty.

GOC is not a heteronormative movie??

GOC is far more heteronormative than CMBYN.

Bullshit. The characters in GOC are actually gay, not bisexuals.

GOC is promoting a monogamous relationship, whereas CMBYN celebrates sexual fluidity and experimentation,

I dont know what to believe lol

Is R55 telling the truth? I read a brief summary of this and I didnt find it hetero-suggestive.

Anyway R56 is right. The CMBYN characters are bisexuals, not fluid nor experimenting.

True love means you fuck them in the ass.

[quote]True love means you fuck them and them alone in the ass.

Fixed.

Oh..

So much better than CMBYN.

Ugh...I was wondering how long it would be before someone drug out the tired "Heteronormative" bullshit.

God's Own Country is 9 times better than Call Me By Your Name.

So not being a slut is "heteronormative" now? Speaking of God and heterosexual faithfulness, King Solomon had 700 wives.

We get a year stacked with gay movies and what do we do? We pit them against each other in order to tear down our non-favourites. Typical and exactly why we can't have nice things.

CMBYN is about a wealthy kid getting it on with a wealthy college guy, at least GOC seems to feature more realistic and relatable people.

Is the IMDB description correct? I dont see how GOC is "heteronormative", not even the in trailer. It just seems like two guys who happen to be gay.

And after living in a cowtown for five years, I can tell you first hand that [italic]Brokeback Mountain[/italic] changed nothing. They need to see a movie like this.

And you expect this to change them r69?

I really HATE the comments section on YouTube, I basically know now how the movie ends.

I enjoyed God's Own Country but found it flawed. I enjoyed Josh O'Connor in The Durrells but just couldn't quite believe in him in GOC. His one dimensional taciturnity just didn't seem credible to me. A better actor would have made it credible. I didn't expect to like the Romanian actor who's not my usual physical type but I found him to be sexy and quite believable in the role. The sex scenes were hot but occasionally a bit too 'barnyard' for my tastes. At the end of a hot scene I don't want to be thinking "so they went to sleep with stinky fingers ?"

[Quote]A gay love story. Almost as good as CMBYN.

Fanboys are so delusional. GOC is actually better than CMBYN. 99 % vs 97 %.

[quote] His one dimensional taciturnity just didn't seem credible to me. A better actor would have made it credible.

Sorry, I was doing another movie at the time, so I wasn't available.

[quote]At the end of a hot scene I don't want to be thinking "so they went to sleep with stinky fingers ?"

I've always found going to bed with stinky fingers to be a wonderful thing.

That French boy can't act.

Shame that this very hood film is being used by the poster who has a fixation with the "dago pedo" CMBYN. The obsessive nature of the quest to label CMBYN as indecent is peculiar.

Very GOOD film....

This is my favorite film of the year so far. (To put that in context, I'm also a HUGE fan of Get Out, Dunkirk, Marjorie Prime, CMBYN and It Comes at Night).

I went to see this movie cold when it came out, not knowing what to expect other than the fact that it had a gay storyline - and was completely engrossed.

In fact I found the last 10 minutes or so - when the Josh O'Connor character realizes he fucked up badly - so suspenseful (because you don't know whether he & the Romanian guy going to get together in the end), I knew I was going to get teary eyed no matter how it turned out.

R77: Italy allied with Hitler and helped send gays and Jews to the gas chambers. That is unforgivable.

Life is beautiful, indeed!

It is fucking anti-semitic for gentile filmmakers to use a work by an Egyptian to depict Jews as sexual predators.

Never forget.

Very good film- so is CMBYN. It’s not a contest. I think it’s wonderful that 2 of the best love stories of the year are between two men.

R84 +In A Heartbeat

It's unfortunate that in this modern day age you are supposed to pick sides for even the most trivial things. I mean, really: Two great gay themed movies and it's Team "GOC" or Team "CMBYN"? That's just sad. It's like everything must be a fight, because, what, there are so few of them?

Has it been properly released on itunes yet? Can I watch it as soon as I buy it or is it like CMBYN on Amazon 'you'll get it at some point no further details'?

They should put [italic]In A Heartbeat[/italic] at the beginning of [italic]God's Own Country[/italic]. Teens being with other teens is not creepy. Adults being with other adults is not creepy.

[quote]Two great gay themed movies and they're GOC and In A Heartbeat.

Fixed.

[quote]The latter is our STEAMBOAT WILLIE

Is that a good thing?

And thanks to the Disney-Fox deal, [italic]Love, Simon[/italic] will be the last Fox movie I see for a very long time.

Vote for Josh O'Connor.

Oh. FFS give it a rest R182. Some Jews are predators. Some Gentiles are. Every fucking religion and none has them. The lovers in CMBYN are both Jewish. And both over the age of consent. Go and concentrate your anti pedo and anti anti semitism ire where it's needed.

[quote]—The latter is our STEAMBOAT WILLIE

[quote]Is that a good thing?

Compare the historical impact of sound cartoons (that wasn't even the first Mickey Mouse cartoon; [italic]Plane Crazy[/italic], where Minnie slaps Mickey for getting too fresh, was) vs. actually being able to do an emotionally and intellectually honest gay teen love story in the medium of animation using all the techniques and tools that have been developed since 1928 along with all the social changes since then.

Where did you guys watch this? Is it still in cinemas somewhere?

R 93, R 82

R89 YES.

It hasn’t been released in all cinemas yet, r95. Supposedly, later this month in all cinemas.

thank you r98

Brilliant film. Saw it in the Village earlier this year. Superior to CMBYN

In a Heartbeat? Do you mean Beats Per Minute?

I thought they were talking about this r101

[quote]Fanboys are so delusional. GOC is actually better than CMBYN. 99 % vs 97 %.

THIS is your measure of alleged superiority? A score on a review aggregator? Are you a robot or just programmed to think like one?

R101 Yeah, BPM was well done too.

Team "120 BPM"

Couldn’t find anything recent at IMDb for In A Heartbeat.

In a Heartbeat (2017)

4min | Animation, Short, Family

[R106]. Look on Youtube. Expect a 4 minute cartoon aimed at a female or emo-loving teen demographic. It's cute enough for what it is but it's nonsensical that someone is pushing this for ' best gay film of the year'.

BPM was discussed above.

Found this non-spoiler review in Slate.com

[quote] There’s a moment about three-quarters of the way through BPM—this crucial shot’s placement in the narrative, neither too early nor too late, is another mark of this film’s exacting delicacy—when we get a glimpse into the dream world of Sean, a passionate lover of both life in general and his new boyfriend in particular, who’s unrelievedly furious at the prospect of dying this far before his time. I won’t spoil what the image is that he dreams or what role it plays in the context of the story, but I was grateful in that moment to be watching at home, because I had to put the screener on pause for a full five minutes to sob. BPM, which won the Grand Prix at Cannes, will be opening wide across the U.S. over the first few months of this year. Because, aggravatingly, it didn’t make the short list of titles to be considered for the foreign-language Oscar, I hope people will take the trouble to find this brave and beautiful film.

R108 = CMBYN Warrior

At [R110]. [R108] here. I enjoyed CMBYN but found it flawed in many ways. The only person from that film that I see worthy of a nomination is the young actor who played Elio. I've seen so few of the other films whose actors may deserve nomination that I'm in no position to say that he deserves to win.

Are you the same person who's pushing 'In a Heartbeat' so hard ? It's a cute little film and may or may not deserve recognition as a short film. But comparing it to a film with real historical import (Steamboat Willie) or suggesting that it's the best gay film of the year is a gross overstatement that undermines such advocacy.

I still don't get the Steamboat Willie shit.

[bold] I'M GOING TO WATCH GOD'S OWN COUNTRY TOMORROW AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME!!!!

How so,dear? The release date is the 29th.

R111, stop condescendingly underrating these two modern masterpieces. IAH was as good or better than anything Disney produces now. Or then, for that matter.

Hmmm. You seem a little too interested in that short little film. Are you the actual filmmaker?

If I were, would I be wasting my time here?

[quote]How so, dear? The release date is the 29th.

How do you even know where this person lives?

What R118 said. I saw this movie like a month ago or something. I live in Norway btw. I saw it in a movie theater. It was kinda awkward with the sex scenes and nudity.

R113 here.

It's so GOOOODD you guys!! The kissing scenes though... it felt so real. I'd be SO MAD if they don't end up together in real life. They look really good together and definitely looks like a legit couple, that type that gets endless DL threads.

Also, lots of spit, animal stuffs, holes and salt.

Also, I don't know how some posters here claimed that the film was heteronormative. It was far from it, the straightest thing in this film is that Johnny's parents were a straight couple but that's all.

Not a lot of nudity and sex either as the other poster claimed, especially compared to CMBYN and 120BPM. Pretty dicks though 😉. Though I understand how it could be a little awkward to watch, their scenes together could be VERY sensual to the point that it feels like watching an amateur softcore erotica.

[Quote]Not a lot of nudity and sex either as the other poster claimed, especially compared to CMBYN

WTF are you talking about? CMBYN has ZERO nudity. At least GOC showed asses and flaccid dicks.

R122 I'm actually talking about the sex part. But yeah, saying that GOC has "lots" of nudity is not accurate. There's only one scene of flaccid cocks and most of the other nudity is blocked/side-nudity.

Also, CMBYN and 120BPM showed butts too, IIRC.

Just saw God's Own Country, and I loved it.

As a gay man, this movie resonated a lot more with me than CMBYN. I felt GOC did more to flesh out the characters and their relationship.

The Romanian actor they cast, Alec Secareanu, is hot as fuck. Who wouldn't fall in love with his character?

Nice movie w/a sweet love story. I have a few questions because the accents were tough on my dumb American ears. How was that woman related to John - she seemed a bit old to be his mother, was she his grandmother, aunt, stepmother? Why was she so bitter and hateful - she never stopped sucking on that lemon. In the pub, some old guy started flicking beer on Georges - what was that about? Thanks.

The older woman was Johnny grandmother. I read an interview with Francis Lee--the director--and he described her character as a loving woman, but not a sentimental one. I think this is why she comes off as a bit harsh, but if you look closely you see those little moments where she shows her love for Johnny, in her own way--fixing his meals, washing his clothes, making sure he wears proper weather attire when he tends the farm.

I also think, when we are first introduced to Johnny, he's emotionally shut down, and in many ways not a taking responsibility for his own life...and in many ways, that's what she needs him to do if the farm is going to survive. So, I think there is some frustration from her, wanting him to grow up and face his future.

As for the pub scene...well, I read that pretty clearly as xenophobia. Obviously, the man flicking beer at Gheorghe had a problem with him being Romanian, which according to Lee, he saw a lot of in the UK...this growing dislike of "outsiders"...so he felt that it was important to include that sentiment of alienation and discrimination in the film.

Alec Secareanu on God's Own Country | TIFF Original

He's like a hotter version of Oscar Isaac.

I hope he gets more work in English speaking films, but with his accent, I worry he'll get typecast as the stereotypical "foreigner" in most films, which rarely are speaking parts, much less one of the leads in the picture like GOC.

Shame, because he's gorgeous, talented...and that voice! Argh, makes you melt.

Come to Butt-head.

On Amazon now, $5.99 to rent

[quote]As for the pub scene...well, I read that pretty clearly as xenophobia. Obviously, the man flicking beer at Gheorghe had a problem with him being Romanian, which according to Lee, he saw a lot of in the UK...this growing dislike of "outsiders"...so he felt that it was important to include that sentiment of alienation and discrimination in the film.

There is also a brief moment where Georghe is wiping away a tear from his cheek while he's waiting for Johnny to come back from the restroom. Clearly he was uncomfortable to be left alone in that hostile enviroment.

[quote]There is also a brief moment where Georghe is wiping away a tear from his cheek while he's waiting for Johnny to come back from the restroom.

Shit. Just realized that he wasn't crying but wiping a drop of beer off his cheek (the guy flicking beer at him).

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this is mine. I thought God's Own Country was horrible, the first two thirds has very little dialogue. They attempted to make up for the lack of dialogue with every character giving someone else dirty looks. Everyone seemed to hate everyone else in this movie, I found it depressing and uninteresting, I cared nothing for any of these people.

The last third was better than the first two thirds, at least there was some meaningful dialogue. The location was beautiful. It at least it had a happy ending, although some what unbelievable. I applaud them for making a gay themed movie that shows there can be a happy ending for two gay men instead of nothing but tragedy and tears, but I just didn't feel that they developed the characters enough for me to care that much that they had a happy ending.

[quote] Everyone is entitled to their own opinion....I cared nothing for any of these people.

I did.

Deleted scenes. They should've kept in the rabbit and campfire scenes - Gheorghe shushing an impatient Johnny was cute and Johnny making silly jokes and Gheorghe not understanding them was very sweet. The cheese scene was also really good

R135 I loved the deleted and extended scenes (especially addressing Gheorghe magically understanding their thick accent) but I think it was wise they chose to edit them out. The movie is much tighter as a result.

r133 You honestly believe miserable farmers in Yorkshire have verbose conversations? I lived on a farm once and that's exactly what it looked like; all brusque work talk all the time. Also, the lack of dialogue is intentional as it's supposed to parallel the harshness of the landscape and John's life, seemingly devoid of any possibility of change.

Life is depressing sometimes and they make movies about said depressing lives sometimes as well. News at 11.

[quote]Everyone is entitled to their own opinion

News at 11.

Nobody who dislikes this movie has any other opinions worth considering

Buy this disc and support gay movies.

Dull film.

R140 Shut up you hetrossaexuelle!!!

This movie was so good and a gay drama with a happy ending , that's rare! Alec Bacereanu was sexy.

R142 Secareanu

One thing though was their first sex scene with the mud all over them a fantasy the romanian guy had? That confused me.

It's real r144, how did it confuse you?

Who knows?

I loved it. The only flaw I can think of is that Gheorghe is perfect, a Romanian Prince Charming, and Johnny was too much of a shit for him to be interested in.

R147 Agreed. I just got around to seeing this. In addition, Josh O'Connor didn't look great in this movie. Alec was hot as hell. They look hot together in real life though.