Days of Our Lives - Hourglass XII: The Whoreton Awakens

FF the soap opera threads

Eat a bowl of cold dicks, R1.

Paul NARITA is (half) JAPANESE... So is Christopher Sean.

Will is turning Japanese.

Will is so needy... Tomorrow, Will asks Paul if they can be friends (in bed).

I haven’t been watching. Zombie Will is straight, right?

R6 Judge for yourself.

In an otherwise banal blind item about DOOL, this stood out:

[quote]Writers were fired, which annoys me, and other cutbacks were made to pay the matriarch of the show the similar salary that she demanded.

"Tamara" is a fan of that cunt Dena?

R8 But they are "friends in real life"...

I thought Chad was gonna make Kate's cavernous nostrils even big today with his fists.

It sure does sound like Dee Dee Halls and Alison Sweeney.

Who is leaking all of these blind items about Days?

The show seems to have lost a lot of the momentum from November sweeps already.

mean, mean, mean!

Not me R13. IMO, the show is cooking on all burners. It feels like a soap.

I love the gif they have of Susan's teeth flying out on the DOOLmoji app!

R9 Maybe she misspelled and meant "REEL LIFE."

Would someone be so stupid as to reveal Sweeney's salary to Dee Dee? Or did Sweeney make it known to drive Dee nuts? I know the show was paying Missy Reeves a ton and giving her all that time off to live her life in Tennessee. Why they bother paying her that now I don't know. Kristian also got a huge pay increase before Hope's story with Aiden started.

TWO

They should cut ALL of their pay, if ya ask me. They're that soap hasn't been canceled. While I'm happy that it is good again, I think the younger actors should be getting better pay than their old timer co-stars, who might have a hard time remembering lines or performing more action-packed scenes.

Does anybody have a screen capture of JJ's butt spread open on the bed the other day? I think it was Friday's show

Will makes another ugly Henley look good with his perky pecs.

Family Photo

Who is the guy on the left at R23?

Dee was making super deluxe money when she was fired with Drake a few years ago, though. She took a pay cut when they brought her back. If she's trying to compare that to whatever they paid Ali for a short term return, she's being unfair.

I can see why she may be irritated, but she literally just turned 70. That she even has a contract is a miracle in this environment. The writing is on the wall, which is why Dee's friend Jane Elliot decided to get the hell out of Dodge before she was pushed out. She should enjoy what she has.

If she continues to shake the boat, they'll cut her ass. No one has time for that from anyone. Marlena may be a big part of DAYS, but they have a deep bench of veterans and they'd just bring back Sister Marie or something if they need another wrinkled 70 year old snatch to stand around and sigh.

Tuesday's Will scenes.

Chambo had sunburn or something? His face looked rather red even with tv makeup on.

It's all about JJ tomorrow.

Even his pecs are depressed...

R21 I have a gif.

R30 It's a shame the show never shot him below the waist when he was standing up. Rafe's "put some pants on" line reminded us JJ was standing around in his underwear, but the camera didn't really show it.

Jj makes my peen hard.

Can't wait to see Ciara and Claire's cat-fight at the Horton ornament hanging! In true soap opera fashion, I hope they push each other into the tree, knocking it over.

R33 One can only hope their fighting won't be as wooden as their acting.

WOODen

So Jack is back from the dead again. Can we kill Missy?

Jack is not back from the dead. I assume he appears in a vision to JJ when JJ is suicidal and/or having his It's A Wonderful Life moment.

Well, Jack sure looks like a warmed up corpse.

This super couple did not age well.

Drying off

Who's this with JJ? Is the show showing scenes from JJ's delinquent past?

Ron knows how to objectify his gays!!

R28– what is on jjs chest? Razor burn? Genital herpes?

Ron loves guys with hairy legs.

Anything new with Will and Paul?

R45 Will struck out with Paul! Paul wouldn't friend him on Facebook or in real life. Sad Chamboji face.

Sadbo

Je suis Sadbo.

Claire came across awful today. I mean she always does - but worse than ever. Are we supposed to root against her? She's the legacy grandchild of two super couples and the child of a super couple - she should be the most beloved character on the show. But she's just the worst.

unROOT

When did Brady's body get all doughy and gross?

R51, so true. Brady looked thick and awful. Aging is a killer, I guess, because Eric Martsoff has lost it.

How big is Christopher Sean's cawk?

Don’t japs generally have small ones?

DOOGhy

R53 It's five fat inches.

Doesn't say much for Will or Sonny. At least Paul has a bulge that shows.

Do those jeans make Will's butt look fat?

No but they distract from Sonny’s fat.

Fat

Fuck

Freddie

FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA.....BELCH

I want Freddie’s cum in my mouth.

Sonny is such a stupid name and a very stupid character. Will belongs with Paul - or Ben.

R62 Seriously stupid name. .. When Paul came on, they should have had him be the one to always refer to Sonny by his real name, "Jackson." Then, when Sonny opted join Titan, he should have announced he'd be going by that. If his mother still wanted to refer to him by his silly nickname, Sonny, okay, but that's it.

SHITTY GLITTER

What it feels like as the token black man at a Whoreton Christmas.

Is FCF the token Mexican guy?

I thought Rafe was Chinesey or somthing

That was one of the best hours of daytime television that I've seen in a long freaking time. I love it when soap opera is unapologetically soap opera. Good job and kudos.

R12 Weinstein effect which has led to exposures in film,theater,politics and prime time tv. So it was only a matter of time when it would start to reach soaps.

r7 Their hair shadows are distracting. I've never noticed hair shadows before. Anywhere.

R58 Will's butt looks just fine

[quote]Don’t japs generally have small ones?

No, just the opposite. Christopher Sean Friel is also Spanish.

[quote] Christopher Sean Friel is also Spanish.

Like Freddie? I guess Will has a type.

Had to pass on this episode.

Isn't it time for Theo to get a sponge bath?

Maybe a little manscaping too, so he wakes up as he customarily is?

Theo got fired because he doesn’t have hairy legs.

Whoreton Christmas was kind of lame this year... that was the "catfight"? I was hoping NuNuCiara would lose an eye or something.

Ornament Wars, featuring NuNuCiara and Claire !

Do you think Will wants a taste of Eli's BBC.

BBC 4 or 5, R79?

Who's the cute boy with the beard in r77?

That "cat-fight" beTWEEN Claire and Ciara was more like Kitten Klash.

So the new character is Stefan O. Dimera.

Would have been fun to see it escalate more then pile on Julie in full scenery-chewing mode.

So I guess tomorrow's the Xmas Story reading at the hospital?

[quote]BBC 4 or 5, [R79]?

Huh?

Okay, I've tuned out for a two weeks... why don't these two young broads like each other?

SOAP OPERA DIGEST CONFIRMS TYLER CHRISTOPHER'S CHARACTER NAME & FAMILY TIES...

As has been rumored, Tyler Christopher will be playing the role of Stefan, the never-before-mentioned son of Stefano.

Stefan O. Dimera.. The O stands for "Oh-so-clever".

Why do I cry like a baby when they hang those damned ornaments. Every fricking year.

Where was Sister Marie’s ornament? She’s an OG Horton and should be more prominently displayed than the Mexican Muderesse!

[quote] should be more prominently displayed than the Mexican Muderesse!

Is that FCF?

SOOSie SEEforth is a BEETCH.

So "The Elf on the Shelf" won't be making an appearance this year..............👏

Hopefully Nichole will arrive back in Salem in time to spoil Jennifer's plans to hook up with Eric on New Years Eve.

"Stefan O. Dimera?" Really?? I thought the writing had improved, but that's just tacky - even for Days.

R91 I'm a little rusty but I believe she's talking about Gabbi, who killed that sweet angel Nick. A hideous crime, which the perfect Julie will never forgive!

Galen Gering, fuck-up!

Lamon Archey‏ @LamonArchey

That one time @galengering forgot to say the only two words he had in the scene. “Where’s Gabi” 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣 #CUT 🎬 #Blooper #Days @nbcdays @billymflynn with the crossover 💯

7:03 PM - 21 Dec 2017

Heather North, the 1st Sandy Horton and the voice of Scooby Doo's Daphne, died recently. That's another character who could come back and fill Dee Dee's purpose. And she's a true Horton. No more Bradys or DiMera's please!!

[quote]Drying off

JESUS, MARY, and JOESPH!! I almost licked my screen.....

The dialogue b/t Will, Sonny, and Paul is excruciating. Like it was written by straight people who think gay couples talk like straight soap opera couples. It's weird and not how people their age communicate. Not to mention these two wouldn't be fighting to save a marriage in their earlier 20s. They're written like 45-year-old characters.

[quote]What it feels like as the token black man at a Whoreton Christmas.

Yeah, right. Like HE looks like the token Black man anywhere.

Next week Will vacillates between Sonny and his feelings for Paul by visiting his own grave.

[quote]The dialogue b/t Will, Sonny, and Paul is excruciating. Like it was written by straight people who think gay couples talk like straight soap opera couples. It's weird and not how people their age communicate. Not to mention these two wouldn't be fighting to save a marriage in their earlier 20s. They're written like 45-year-old characters.

Whose name is last in the writers' credits for that episode? That's who wrote the dialogue.

In their defense they have to write it in a way that the majority of their audience will understand. That's why you have three young gay men all hot and fired up about getting married instead of talking about Grindr and Scruff and other things that regular young gays talk about. You just know that Paul would be an Instaho and Sonny would be on Growler and Will would be tricking at The Spot in the real world.

What’s Growler?

If NuWriters want to familiarize themselves with gay dialogue, they should try stopping by DL on a daily basis.

Jennifer is so whiny and pathetic. She needs to stay home and mind her own business and stop defending her loser son.

The WilSon chemistry today is nice but never really rises above nostalgia. Love seeing Will lounging all over that bed, though.

In the midst of today's WilSon nostalgia, Days tweets this... Horita's coming!

So Lani and Eli totally misinterpret the JJ-Gabi situation and use it as justification to “comfort” each other... just a bit predictable?

Nice to see the boys learned how “Maurice” is pronounced this time around.

This show has lots of gays behind the scenes - Ron C, Ryan Quan, Greg Meng for starters - so there should be no reason for not knowing how gays generally talk and behave. It's simply a concession to the blue haired pearl clutchers who lose their shit over gay content. Remember, the Great Gay Cleansing took place just two years ago.

Sonny is being patient with Will and they are taking it slow. It's all so Victorian. Even Maurice shows more of the lusty side of gays. Sonny should have jumped Will's bones when he was practically "presenting" on that bed. Maybe Horita will bring more heat to the gay storyline next year.

How funny if Will had said he remembered playing tonsil hockey and grinding crotches with some guy named Neil ...

and they would have shown that flashback.

[quote]So Lani and Eli totally misinterpret the JJ-Gabi situation and use it as justification to “comfort” each other... just a bit predictable?

I know. In real life, Eli would have broken down that door and stomped JJ's ass and then screwed his chick. Overall, the writing and pacing are pretty good for the show.

It was so nice to see Matt Ashford the other day and so nice to see scenes between Jack and JJ. That Ron is just writing the shit out of this show. The only problem that I've seen so far is that Brady needs to hit the gym or tone up or something.

Yes it was almost a gay cleanse and they would have gotten away with it if weren't for that pesky backlash against the show.

It still was two years of irreparable damage both to the show and the fans of Wilson. No one I know who used to watch has gone back so I don't know what they hope to gain from this. Ratings don't seem to have improved all that much so good going Days. Ron made the gays look silly at times on OLTL so God knows what he'll do here.

Ron had the gays on GH arguing over who was Rose and who was Blanche

There's other kinds damage that happened to show some may not know R117 because of those events with the damage still currently affecting the show.

R119 I'm just concerned with the Wilson angle. I stopped watching the show but judging from the ratings drop in the intervening years, clearly there was more affecting the show. I also left out the gays on GH because that was just a shit show.

Also, Freddie and Chanandler Bong have ZERO chemistry. I don't think either actor is spectacular but they can do better than DOOL. And poor Christopher Sean is just being wasted on this shit.

[quote]Ratings don't seem to have improved all that much so good going Days.

Yes they have.

[quote]The only problem that I've seen so far is that Brady needs to hit the gym or tone up or something.

What? There's nothing wrong with Brady's body -- at. all!

Sonny brings flowers and chocolates to Will next week, but at last minute keeps the chocolates for himself.

R122 If you call the current ratings good, I guess still languishing in 4th place is the new "good". They may be slightly up but I'm betting it ain't due to any significant return of Wilson fans.

NuGOOD

Ron C likes the cock.

And hairy legs.

Greg Rikaart's character would make a good next boyfriend for Will. Or would the pedo shriekers shriek "pedo"?

Horita is one HOT couple! I'd take them over Wilson any day.

Peedo

I wonder if Chandler can ride Paul's bat the way Strudel did. It will be worth watching.

Will kisses Paul again, probably NY's eve and decides to end it with Sonny.

R133 Well, that was fast. WilSon fraus will screech bloody murder!

YAAAAAS I hope that's true, R133. Horita makes for a much hotter and more interesting couple than boring old Wilson.

Horita has a tiny wee wee.

Sonny should have fucked some sense/memories into Will on that bed when he had the chance instead of droning on about the past like a grandpa. If Super Horny NuVirgin Will doesn't jump at the chance to have sex when you kissed on a bed, then he's just not that into you.

So which one of you posts the video segments to the unlisted youtube channel below? Good work! But how do we get the links? Do you publish them somewhere in an organized list? Thanks!

The upcoming Stefan O. Dimiera storyline will be probably crash and burn. It was tiring when Stefano was alive and illegitimate kids kept coming out of the woodwork and it's more ridiculous with him being dead that another kid pops up. I bet Stefan will try to overthrow bland Chad and Andre.

[quote]The upcoming Stefan O. Dimiera storyline will be probably crash and burn.

Why don't you let the story begin and play out before deeming it a failure?

R139 I wouldn't doubt they're bringing on another spawn of Stefano, because they think FOWBF might decide to jump ship. His contract renewal comes due in four months, so this could be something of a DiMera "backup plan."

How age-appropriate is Stefan O for fucking Sonny?

ReNuWal

R142 Sonny boy can't handle a man. He always preferred the boyz.

Love this development...

[quote] Tuesday, January 2, 2018

Will admits to Marlena that he kissed Paul again.

Wednesday, January 3, 2018

Will decides to end things with Sonny.

SOD is saying there will be a murder mystery with a "well known" Salem resident as the victim.

Do we know who this might be?

Time for someone to kill Abe before he 'acts' again.

It saddens me but they’re probably looking for a way to write out Victor - at 84, JA is no spring chicken and is sitting in most of his scenes lately.

Leave Abe alone. This is his first real storyline in 20 years. I'm just glad that he's still around and has a family and that he has a partner who isn't cheating on him with every good looking caramel colored younger black guy in town.

R146 Surprisingly, that is one thing that has not been leaked or spoilered. Some people are guessing it's someone unimportant like Henderson the butler.

r146 One hopes and prays a certain someone gets food poisoning from a bag of chicken.

FOOD

Ron's not really going to waste him on her is he? ugh.

R153 Who put a giant bagel on her head?

Why do birds suddenly appear ...

Who are they, R155?

Andre is the one who is killed

R156 It's Jumpstreet and GayTheo with Lani looking on.

This should be an episode of Icon Male's "His Sister's Lover."

[quote] Andre is the one who is killed

Not again, seriously? I mean, they've killed Andre and Tony so many times. So stupid.

Has Will been reminded of his cheating episode while in LA?

R157 The budget can't afford more than two Dimeras at a time?

R161 No, Will hasn't heard of it yet. Does anyone know of that other than Sonny or Paul (if someone told him)? Do even Marlena or Sami know?

Will should just go to the Spot for a quick hook up. He seems pretty horny with a lot of nervous energy. This might settle him a bit.

[quote] The budget can't afford more than two Dimeras at a time?

Dimeras are not a dime a dozen you know.

R163 Isn't jacking off in the shower imagining getting fucked by Paul every morning enough to temper Will's horniness? Or does that only make him yearn more for the real thing? I think this NuOldWill must have come back as a total bottom, hence the lack of interest in Sonny (his being fat doesn't help) and the drooling at Paul.

dROOLing

R138 He posts the links on Twitter.

R167 Well, DL chewed up that link. Here's his account.

You’re a freak, R167.

Oh Will DEFINITELY wants the "REAL" thing!!! I recommend a Will centric orgy with all the old DOOL favs to give him a good selection,

Even amnesia Will knows Sonny can't satisfy him sexually

It's just that amnesia Will somehow remembers how full and content he was with BasePaul's big bat hitting homeruns every time.

Chandler and Freddie grin through every scene. That’s not acting, and it’s embarrassing.

I think Sonny made the biggest mistake by laughing it off when Will said he wasn't talking about sleeping together. That's exactly the time for Sonny to make his move to kiss Will and make Will want to sleep together. Then, Will gave him another chance when they kissed on the bed, and once more Sonny didn't press on. Even if they weren't going all the way, they could have had a nice make out session.

Amnesia Will is a big ol' bottom and he knows Sonny isn't going to fill him like Paul would

[quote]Andre is the one who is killed

Ushering in the return of Tony, no doubt.

[quote]Do even Marlena or Sami know?

I remember Guychandler telling Marlena.

[quote]Chandler and Freddie grin through every scene. That’s not acting, and it’s embarrassing.

Freddie doesn’t but Chanandler does.

Also Brady looks fine. He doesn't need to go to a gym.

Leann Hunley is coming back so it would be sorta right for Tony to re-emerge. I loveo Andre though - I still remember his not so subtle flirting with Aiden, calling him 'a hot mess' at one point while lasciviously looking up and down his body.

Andre pings more than the officially gay characters... will be interesting to see if Tony does the same.

Is there any way to watch this online? I've missed a LOT of episodes.

r180 NBC.com has full episodes going back to six weeks. They've currently got episodes starting with Thursday, Nov. 9 to the most recent.

Keep hitting the down arrow at the bottom center of the screen to get all the way back to Nov. 9 episode.

R181 Thanks.

Julie and Doug put an ornament for Jarid on the Horton tree.

Never heard of a Horton named Jarid before. Sounds like they're about to introduce a new character.

There’s not an ex-Jarid?

You sure it wasn't David (i.e. Eli's father) ?

R183, the cursive writing is a little strange, and the camera angle kind of obscured the "D", but as R185 suggests, it was definitely "David."

Julie hung that ball and in the next shot, we saw David. Don't know if Mike, Tommy, Marie, etc. were shown since they were a lifetime ago and we needed to be shown Ciara And Claire smash each other's ornament. Sigh.

Has Will hung any balls?

For real drama they should have had NuNuCiara and Claire fight over Theo's ornament and have it break while they cutaway to Theo flatlining at the hospital, slomo Kayla and Val rushing in, etc...

(I know, Theo is not a Horton, just need some extra angst during this annual Tree of Death sequence).

So is Theo going to die? The actor can’t play heterosexual to save his life.

Apparently he's leaving the show (for a while? forever?) and they're going to "send him away for some rehab". Agree with R190, maybe he'd be cute with that Henry guy - imagine the flyover fraus having to deal with an interracial gay couple...

[quote] imagine the flyover fraus having to deal with an interracial gay couple...

They’ve already had two. Why not another?

r186 Thanks. I went back and checked the tape again. Yes, that's the ornament Julie put up.

The camera shot was at an angle that the full "D" couldn't been seen. Just the last half of the curve of the D, which looked like a "J" from that angle.

So, no Jared Horton coming.

There was supposed to be a redheaded gay Brady coming but I think that was long cancelled.

Kayla looks amazing in her white Christmas coat/outfit and her perfectly styled hair. You can call her a Frau all you want, but MBE always slays it.

Did Judi Evans (Adrienne K & MBE's real-life sister) have some facial surgery?

I don't know if Judi had any work done, but although they look alike and have the same last name, Judi and MBE are not related.

How did Eli go from being so nonchalant about having his fun with Lani (hookup ho), to being a super street thug and yelling at Gabi ("aight so that's how is gonna BE?"), to being understanding and compassionate, to buying lattes and a pink teddy bear for Gabi and Ari - all in the same day/episode?

HOOKup

R190 That upcoming preview photo for this week at R155 shows GayTheo waking up.

I wonder if Theo will have amnesia too and also want Paul's dick

Having been in a coma for a month, Theo has blue balls and says he'll forgive JJ if he gives him a blow job.

Theo has only had blue balls for a month. Will's balls have been frozen for two years! Then again, I'm waiting for the revelation that he had copious amounts of down low sex in Memphis since he doesn't seem shy about coming on to Paul, at least for someone who supposedly stayed in the closet for Susan's sake.

Judi Evans is not now, nor has she ever been, Mary Beth Evans' sister.

R204 Have they ever have scenes or storylines together?

R205 ever had

R203 Roger the Elvis Impersonator (aka "Mr. Too-Big") and Amnesiac Will were more than likely having a hot and wild affair behind Susan's back.

So uber-frau Jenn-Fil-A got to read The Christmas Story to the sick kids - she must have felt so honored (or the only one on cast Xtian enough to deserve the honor).

Meanwhile it was a nice touch to hear them singing Silent Night and cheering while Theo wakes up, surrounded by family, Detective Jumpstreet and the two fighting millenios. He may want to back under ;).

R205 I don’t remember 100% but surely Adrienne had scenes with Dr Kayla at least during her breast cancer storyline if nothing else.

R207 But I think Elvis did it when Will was drugged/drunk so Will wouldn't remember the sex. Otherwise, "EJ" the mama's boy would tattle to Susan.

Judi Evans is related to Dr Marlena Evans.

R210 You forgot your meds this morning.

[quote]Chandler and Freddie grin through every scene. That’s not acting, and it’s embarrassing.

I wish the idiot GW troll would give it a rest. I guess you've never been happy to see someone. God knows, no one has ever been happy to see you.

R210 No she's not. But she is related to Sam & Maggie Evans from Dark Shadows.

Judi Evans is the granddaughter of Judi Dench.

R214 = Larry King

R194 Was that supposed to be the gay ginger dude with whom Paul went on a double date with (along with Gabi & JJ), where "Jacob" was later able to coax Paul into going to a big, gay party with him?

I remember the casting call said they were looking for a redhead who could be Irish, so many immediately thought "Brady."

Jonas Fisch ended up playing "Jacob," but the role went nowhere.

R216 This is news to me. Was this during the Paul the lone gay left in Salem period? After death of the Strudel in fall 2015 and before the second coming of Sonny in 2016 (does anyone remember which month he came back to stay?). I recall Paul "mentored" a young gayling during that time, no?

[quote] does anyone remember which month he came back to stay?

Was it on Fat Tuesday?

Mary Beth Evans is related to the original Mary!

R217 Yes, that's exactly when Jacob was on (January 2016). .. After no more Strudel in 2015, Sonny had presumably gone back to eating pâtisseries in France and didn't return until around April of 2016.

R220 Thanks! Actually, Sonny was fattening himself in France until July 2016 (according to Wiki)!

Actually, Sonny came back from Paris rather thin. The ballooning happened in 2017. Look at Sonny back in Sept 2016. No fat chin.

October 2016. If Sonny still looks like this, Will would be all over him.

He’s lucky to have come back in 2016. Trump may not have let him come in.

R217 the gayling who had a crush on Paul was Henry (he asked him out in June 2016, shortly before Sonny's return). Here he is with Claire practicing being a good little popstar and beard.

November 2016 was the hottest Sonny. Will would have been the fat one.

R225 So gay even Claire had to roll her eyes.

Freddie was ALLEGEDLY suspended from the show and ALLEGEDLY may have been serving some time and Corday wasn't going to bring him back. It was Guy Wilson and Judi Evans who had to beg Ken to allow him to return. Freddie owes his job to Judi and Guy. Freddie Smith is an asshole of the highest order and don't believer a word he says.

[quote] and don't believer a word he says.

I bought Nerium.

Is Judi still married? During Another World, she was credited as Judi Evans Luciano.

Last New Year Eve was when the fat chin started manifesting.

This is wrong, but didn't JJ have morning wood we he just got up this morning. Was he standing there with a boner in front of Gabby in those black boxer briefs? And why does JJ look so hot now? What was going on with Casey Moss during this time? Was he filming another role or something? He looks smoking hot. Trip looked hot too.

When do they reshoot the Paul/Will sex scenes for frequent flashbacks???

I just want to note that people who are fans of Dickens/British serials/cliffhanger addicts SHOULD be watching this show. Not just soap fans.

The writing is suburb. Every episode is good.

[quote] The writing is suburb.

We agree!

This episode reminded me of the old Jim Reilly Xmas episodes. Lots of drama and sadness and a Christmas miracle at the end. All we need is Billie Reed singing O Holy Night.

The Christmas miracle of Theo waking up from his coma while surrounded by family was a nice touch. Now who is going to dampen the mood for New Years a la Chelsea running over Zack? Nothing can ever compare.

MOOD for NuYears

This show is still so fucking boring. Honestly, after Dina anything should've been better but nope. I've gone back to reading recaps so I don't waste 5 hours of my life each week.

About a year ago, Casey started doing "pylometrics" training with Christopher. I believe he was prepping for his role as a college wrestler in the indie film he was about to do called "The Last Champion." That film was subsequently shot during the first quarter of 2017. (It's also one of the reasons his chest was shaved again for awhile.) I think he's looked pretty good ever since then.

^^^ In reply to R232.

R239 = Susan Banks

R231 The craft service table strikes again! This was like when his first stint as Sonny, he was first slim and sexy then turned fat and chinny.

R242 You're just mean, mean, mean!

R233 Why do reshoots when Paul and Will are going to have sex in early 2018? And we know it will be hot since Will already kissed Paul with such enthusiasm.

Poor GrindrJoey gets a shout-out... still rotting in prison. Merry Xmas!

[quote]Roger the Elvis Impersonator (aka "Mr. Too-Big") and Amnesiac Will were more than likely having a hot and wild affair behind Susan's back.

R212, you pathetic piece of shit.

I’m not a GW troll. I think GW is a good, intelligent liberal in real life and a lousy Will. He was good in sex scenes but is no actor. Many times he was wretched.

That doesn’t mean I’m wrong about CM and FS, who fuck up all their scenes with grins and smirks. It’s disgusting that no one’s put a stop to it. At times it also seems disrespectful to the writers AND to the gay audience — as if they’re laughing AT the lines AND the subject matter.

It’s disheartening to see others are willing to ignore this shit completely just because Massey is good looking.

R248 None of their scenes were ruined by grins or smirks. They have all been great (by soap standard). What they heck are you watching?

They're just bringing back the playful part of their relationship that all but disappeared once they were married.

Chandler’s smirk is irritating.

[quote]Now who is going to dampen the mood for New Years a la Chelsea running over Zack?

Vivian will be brining the fireworks this New Year's Eve.

Well there are rumors that someone may be thinking of talking.

Vivian’s pussy stinks.

R253 to what are you referring?

R248 is so emotional.

So there's no Will this week until Friday for the New Year Kiss with Paul? Already getting bored with the Xmas "miracle".

R248, I am a—not [bold]the[/bold]—GW troll. I agree with everything else you wrote, though. To act is to smirk if you're Chandler, unless you're in the presence of the mighty 13" x 8.5".

Chandler smiles like an eager puppy in some of his scenes, an appropriate response for someone starting life over again. It only looks like a smirk to miserable, lonely trolls who hate seeing anyone else happy.

[quote]It was Guy Wilson and Judi Evans who had to beg Ken to allow him to return. Freddie owes his job to Judi and Guy.

Bullshit. GW couldn't save his own job, much less someone else's. You've been inventing these noble GW stories for some time now. My favorite was how Guy staged an intervention and saved Freddie from alcoholism.

You really need to seek help because you've lost all touch with reality.

I love Chandler's smirk! There I said it!

I love his smirk/smile too. It just make him cuter.

You all know who else is cute, the guy who plays Eli. I just watched him on my new 75" inch TV and he is fucking hot.

[quote] I love Chandler's smirk! There I said it!

It doesn’t look like a smirk to me. It looks more like he’s dreaming of some cock.

[quote] I am a—not the—GW troll

Nice to meet you.

R262 It's a smiley smirk. That one cock he wants will be in his grasp sOOn. Evil smiley smirk.

[quote] In the presence of the mighty 13" x 8.5".

I'm standing and saluting!

Well, part of me is......

R265 Cum back to DOOL or nobody cares.

The I-know-you're-not-looking-at-my-face SMIRK!

The I-am-getting-paid-to-smirk SMIRK!

R255 there was a brief rumor that someone who used to be on the show was thinking of opening up and talk about bad things that allegedly happened on the show that they claimed to have witnessed.

It was me!

I will confess!

I had to see Fat Freddie with his shirt off and I am SCARRED FOR LIFE!

R270 Is that you, Strudel?

No, it's me, Ho Ho Cakes!

R270 uhhh ... We were all scarred for life.

Strudel has removed pics of his new tattoo from his Instagram page.

tattOO

Gotta wonder who thought FCF’s chest looked better shaved for that scene - usually a bit of hair is great at hiding “doughey-ness”.

remOOved tattoos > remOOved pics

R274 Are you talking about the hOOGe fugly one on his chest? He still has a photo of that one on display (posted November 10). Also, you can see it just below his shirt collar in subsequent pics.

Oh, no, R278. At one point, at least a month ago, I thought he had disappeared them. I will take your word for it. I don't want to see them again.

So, touching scene where Jumpstreet JJ and Theo go over what happened the night of the shooting. Except Theo's a suspect and JJ is a cop, heck so is Lani - should make an interesting trial.

R280 Now that they had the "Christmas miracle", I doubt they will bother with a trial since Theo is going to be shipped off to "therapy" off screen.

Trial? JJ was already cleared by the authorities last week, and now the victim (Theo) is saying it's all his fault.

R282 Theo was in the midst of a break in, so that's a crime on its own.

But Theo's like a kid who can't lie, so if they charged him with something, he'd probably end up pleading guilty, and there'd be no need for a trial, just a sentencing hearing.

LMAO at the Chandler troll who thinks all his smirking is adorable. You’re a real fan of acting, dude lol.

Thanks for all the pics of Smiley Chan. I. Sure there’ll be more in the coming days.

Btw, Fat Freddie has been smirking as much as Chandler.

Chandler is god so F off R285!!!!!!

[quote]I love his smirk/smile too. It just make him cuter.

It actually makes him look like an unprofessional, immature jackass and probably the reason he had to go back to the soaps. Also, Freddie does not smirk. Why does that soap queen continue to try and make that a thing?

Chandler is so dumb. 10 years in college and he still isn’t done. He had to come crawling back to soaps because he can’t do anything else. Dumb as dirt.

He claims he has a degree, R288.

It's a soap opera. One does not watch a soap for acting.

[quote]It's DOOL. One does not watch DOOL for acting.

Kicked in the cunt.

There are two GW trolls spamming this thread with their anti-Chandler nonsense. Looks like it's time to start blocking again.

Oh, boo fucking hoo. R292 is going to "start blocking again."

If you trolls think GW is so fabulous, start a thread about him and see how many replies it gets.

GW is fugly, untalented, and ruined the character of Will. He isn't on the show, hasn't been in years, and no one cares about him.

In other news, that fugly, mustard-colored(?) frock they've had Abby wearing during the last few episodes is the absolute worst color on her.

Claire and NuNuCiara need to find a pool of Jell-O and wrestle it out.

POOL

I hate to say it, but can they kill off Ari? She's really annoying and ruins Gabby and Will's life. Maybe take Claire with her?

R298 No, they should SORAS Ari and make Gabby and Will's life more miserable.

Former spouses Anna and Roman are going to rekindle the flame of romance.

NuRomance

Compared to OldAbby, NuAbby is frumpy and dumpy.

R300 That's actually a great idea. Leann is great at comedy. Throw her in a story with Thaao and Josh Taylor and it tells itself.

R302 But that makes her just more believable as Jenn-Fil-A's daughter.

We don't care if NuOldNu Will has a degree or not ...........

He's just so delicious to LOOK at !

LéANN

Sonny constantly lurking around Will, convinced he can make him fall in love with him, is getting kind of creepy.

Will wants to go out and sample the forbidden fruit, starting with someone's EGG ROLL.

[quote] Gabby and Will's life

Gabby and Will have a life?

Fat Freddie doesn’t smirk as much as he smiles and laughs during his scenes, as if to say “I can’t believe I’m pretending to be a fag and saying these retard homo lines.”

The GW/Fat Freddie troll just got blocked. (I'm sure you'll resurrect as the Untalented-Chandler troll etc.)

You might not get blocked so easily if you didn't obsessively repeat the same BS. We're so tired of the same thing, over and over. You're not even creative.

Why don't you move back to the Atlanta Housewives thread. You love NeNe, hate Chandler Massey, and are shitty about Lisa Vanderpump. We get it.

167,675,350 posts later, WE GET IT.

No, he doesn't R309. At aLL. He neither smirks nor laughs. What's wrong with you? Besides the obvious.....

[quote]It's DOOL. One does not watch DOOL for acting.

WilSon looking sad and fat.

Paul says fuck you to the unhappy couple. After New Year, he will be fucking one of them.

Is it a given that Paul sleeps with Will in the next few weeks or is that just wishful thinking on the part of Horita fans? I just don't see current white knight Paul doing that to Sonny after all his professions of love but then again, revenge sex and grief sex are par for the course on this show so there's that.

Doug's Place? Really???

R315 Only a kiss for now, but you know Paul is starting to get feelings (a boner) for Will. And Sonny being a total jerk will cause Paul to jump into bed with Will eventually.

{quote] I just don't see current white knight Paul doing that to Sonny after all his professions of love ...

Let's have white knight Paul do the "noble" thing and "force himself" to have sex with Will, while videotaping the session, for the purpose of showing Sonny what a slut Will is.

Who is the bête noire of DOOL?

Abby’s mustard-colored frock was the ugliest rag ever seen on tv. She looks like a real life, adult Holly Hobby doll.

Seems like Abby swapped out her yellow frock for her negligée.

She looks like an Old Time Western saloon barkeep.

Will and Paul will become Salem's hottest couple in 2018.

I thought Nichole was coming back to Salem for Christmas.....did I sleep through it ?

Sonny is so boring Will ditched him to go kiss Paul.

Glad to see Will ditch that fat bossy bottom for Paul.

R323 Just a rumor that proved to be false.

Will is totally sexually harassing Paul. All the touching and kissing whenever he feels like it... so passive aggressive.

Nugligée

And I was afraid people would finish the year without thnking about the dearly departed Dr Taniel... but Jenn-Fil-A took care of it.

Da Kiss

Em.. Sonny, I wanna break up so I can bang your ex-fiancee. Sorry (not sorry)...

So Eric is into grandmothers now. He loves his GMILF.

Brady no longer has the surgery scar from his heart transplant. Does mean he no longer has Dr. Taniel’s heart? Also love that he shaves his pits and you know he shaves “down there” as well.

As for Granny Jen, that updo did nothing for her except accentuate her gray hair.

R333 Apparently hasn't been paying attention or you'd know Dr. Dan's heart, like the rest of him, is so magical it healed the scar tissue.

R334 Oh good, DOOL already played out that heart donor plot. So our gay shipwrecker Paul is safe from having his heart end up in some schmuck's chest.

Will sure looked like he was sleepwalking through this episode... and only perked up when Paul was around for him to eyefuck and/or molest.

R319 my vote goes to Dena - she's been gone for a while but they're still dealing with all the crap she wrote over her many years.

R335 Lol. DOOL has never shied away from reusing plots so this isn't out of the question. I'd go with Will getting Paul's heart so Sonny won't have to choose.

cHOOSe

They're killing off Paul? Will Will fuck him to death?

R340 That's not a bad way to go, is it?

Why color is Jennifer's hair?

I’m not sure why, 342.

I’m not sure why, R342.

[quote] As for Granny Jen, that updo did nothing for her except accentuate her gray hair.

She appeared to be wearing one of Grandma Alice's famous donuts in her hair. Eric however looked HOT in his tux.

That hairstyle and dress color did her no favors. Isn't there a stylist or three on set to prevent things like this from happening?

[quote]Seems like Abby swapped out her yellow frock for her negligée. She looks like an Old Time Western saloon barkeep.

I liked the yellow dress Abby wore, and I thought the wardrobe department were going to be kind to her for this party. Oh no! Did I get a bitch slap!

Plus, what the heck was Kate wearing?

I see they love Gabby and continues to dress her sexy and age appropriate.

I'm sure her "good family values" attitude does wonders with the hair/makeup/wardrobe crew. Karma's a bitch.

That's not Abigail that's Jennifer's (forgot real name) beliefs.

I was referring to Jenn-Fil-A's bad/lack-of dye job, crazy bun, and frumpy dresses. She probably think's she's the original show matriarch Alice Horton's second coming. Such a waste to pair her with Eric/Greg Vaughn.

Okay.

I actually thought Kate looked hot. Never noticed her rack before.

Does Vivian’s pussy stink?

Will needs to get laid SOON. He about attacked Paul right in the middle of Horton Square.

R353 Ask Victor... or Stefano if your Ouija Board can dial that area code.

Will needs to rub one out.

The direction and staging is terrible. I know they have no budget and no rehearsal, but the Vivian "reveal" came off like a high school video production of morning announcements. And if you're going to reintroduce an iconic character, why wouldn't you have the people with whom she has the most backstory there -- Victor, Maggie, John, Marlena?

She and Kate have QUITE a backstory too.

Who is Viv going to bury alive? You just know that Ron will go there.

Yes, and Kate will get into it with Vivian next week but I still say at least VIctor and Maggie (Vivan's most recent buried-alive victim) should have been there. I realize Ron C. is at the mercy of block taping and cast guarantees, but it's annoying.

In the old days the set would have been bigger, there would have been more extras, most of the contract cast would have been there, and the party would have looked lush. but you can't do that anymore. Days has a weekly budget of about $650,000. Divide that by five and you will have the amount it takes to put on one episode of the show, which aint a lot. Look at GH when they do the Nurse's Ball now, it just looks so cheap and scaled down... .and poor ole Y&R which is #1 and still looks like an 8th grade play.

But these are the sacrifices. It's either this or Peapack or cancellation. I would rather have the show shot in a studio, on the air, in some form. Because the writing is better now, I can overlook most of the things they have to do for cost cutting.

Can't they add more Asian characters and syndicate in China to get some yen to invest into the production value? China wants to be involved in Hollywood and will invest. What's Michelle Yeoh doing these days? Stunt cast her as a long lost Dimera daughter and have the PRC contribute funds with a distribution deal.

Gabby is the CEO and sole employee of GaBBY CHiC.

Of course, she's going to be the CHICest babe at the party.

I bet she did a LiTTle revenge designing for Abby........Abby is such a backwoods Weston frump. No wonder Ben loves him some 💁 Abby.

Paul’s hairy legs sets my loins on fire!

🚀 Maybe North Korea would be intere$ted in inve$ting $ome fund$ in this American 💥 bomb.

[quote] It's either this or Peapack

Peapack?

R366, that’s the New Jersey town which served as the town of Springfield in the latter years of “Guiding Light”. 90% of the show was shot outside of the studio there. It looked very cable accessesque.

Since Victor pretty much sits down for all his scenes now, they'll have to get Viv into the K mansion if they're gonna meet up.

To this day, I still can understand what DiMera Enterprises actually does/produces/markets. The other day, Chad and co. were discussing how the company needed to make a profit for the shareholders (not sure when a board of directors came into being since Stefano was ALWAYS the head of the family company, which was 99.99% illegal) as well as mentioning customers. At least the Kiriakii have a shipping company as well as Basic Black (fashions) and I believe a publishing/magazine company.

This promo isn't exactly impressive. He's not even EJ-lite.

What was the significance of the call about Susan? Some mystery person visited her and made her talk to herself... Was the phone call just an excuse to get Will out of the party so he could kiss Paul and nothing more?

WilSon Kiss...

Or Horita Kiss.

[quote]This promo isn't exactly impressive. He's not even EJ-lite.

You're judging this based on a 15 second promo?

That [quote]Horita Kiss.

Was Everything!!! Sonny is just pathetic. The whole puppy dog thing is just pathetic. Him standing their like a punk with that Champagne and those glasses. I hope Paul takes Will back to the Martin house and fucks him in half and then sends him home with his cum dripping out of Will's ass to stain Sonny's sheets. "Oh Will darling you must have spilled some Champagne on the sheets to make that big ole wet spot." What a fucking pussy.

[quote]What was the significance of the call about Susan? Some mystery person visited her and made her talk to herself...

I'm assuming that was Vivian and/or Stefan and to get Will out of the party.

[quote]I still can understand what DiMera Enterprises actually does/produces/markets.

There was Stefano's side projects and then there was the legit business that they used to launder the mob stuff and the sci fi stuff and the dirty stuff. I did think it was funny that Kate said the DiMera board hates scandal... really?

Amy Steel's New Year's Eve dress was based on her idol, Stevie Nicks.

Did anyone else notice that Thursday, Amy Steel had on her plaid flannel from her 1981 hey day of "Friday The 13th Part 2"????

Why can't they go on as three?

Are any of you looking forward to the long awaited, and discussed, Will and Stefano sex scene? Necrophilia is so hot now! If not that how about Will and Victor? What would their couple names be? Horano? Wiltor?

R377 I thought the long-awaited sex scene was between SONNY and Stefano?? This has been discussed as far back as the Hourglass III thread. Something about them eating a big cream pie in bed together.

[quote] Soap Opera Digest reports that there are tentative plans to broadcast Stefano and Sonny's sex scene on pay-per-view as it may be considered "too raunchy" for its frau audience.

R378 Is that some sick eldergay fantasy? Grandpa (dead or alive)/twink sex.

R379 On second thought, replace twink with fatty gay.

Stefonny would probably appeal to the "elder-gay-bear-in-search-of-younger-chubby-cub" demo that advertisers covet. These old guys usually have a lot of money money to spend.

[quote] I thought the long-awaited sex scene was between SONNY and Stefano??

You are indeed correct. My apologies. I let my fantasies get ahead of me.

I want FCF’s cum inside of me.

[quote]I want FCF’s cum inside of me.

You are the only one.

Stefano too, R384.

R370 He'd have to be 6" taller to fill EJ's shoes. That probably goes for the other measurement as well.

R386 He looks closer to Stefano than EJ. How EJ came out of the union of Susan and Stefano is a mystery unto itself.

R363) You're right. That Gabby Chic Whore has it in for Abby. If she can't have her man, Abby won't ever look right. All the top designers will refuse to dress her.

Oh my. . .

R384 No he's not. Though your endless Sonny/Freddie bashing is IS tiresome.

Sonny alone on NYE waiting for Will is the same scenario that played out 3 years ago only that time fucking was involved. Ron C is just so darned original.

R390 Did Horita fuck on NYE? So Amnesia Will remembered their anniversary?

Whoreton Hears a Ho!

Groove IS in the heart!

Is Sonny desperate enough to go looking for Will and catch him the act? Or will he just wait until Will comes home and demand to see his hole? To see how loose it is...

gROOVe IS in the heart!

R393, that happened to a guy I used to work with. His BF checked his ass to see if he’d been fucked when he’d go out without him.

So are we ever gonna get those HOT-HOT NuHoneym❇❇n scenes ?

[quote]What was the significance of the call about Susan? Some mystery person visited her and made her talk to herself... Was the phone call just an excuse to get Will out of the party so he could kiss Paul and nothing more?

Future Kristen.

[quote]gROOVe IS in the hard.

Fixed.

[quote]Sonny alone on NYE waiting for Will is the same scenario that played out 3 years ago only that time fucking was involved. Ron C is just so darned original.

Writers love symmetry. Good soap opera uses symmetry all the time, especially long running soaps.

Last happy New Year for WilSon was 2014, just before CM left. Horita cheating 2015. Will dead and Sonny gone by 2016. PaulSon became official New Year 2017! Now it's Horita time again for 2018.

Thank you for the WilSonIta timeline, R400.

Throuple

Sonita and Solita! I'll write a twins story!

With multiple personalities!

What does Ms. Carlivati have planned for 2018? Something to wash away the taste of GabbyChic I hope.

R399 You say symmetry, I say lazy, unimaginative hack. All that's missing is a Golden Girls reference. Potato/Potahto.

Some WilSon fans are kind of going batshit over the NYE Horita kiss. Why do they insist WilSon are soulmates when they couldn't even be happily married for more than a year. What's more, they are no longer the same people they were 4 years ago. Sonny is no longer that laid back cafe owner and halfway to becoming a mob boss, and Will probably has a few screws loose on top of the amnesia. It's kind of ironic they actually both need a halfway "normal" person like Paul to keep them from going over the edge.

You can't really recapture the old charm of WilSon...

NuNuCiara has improved a bit. She's more tolerable when she tones down the rebel/mean girl act. Can see the sparks flying with Tripp already.

Throwback to New Year 2016 with the NuTeens!

My how times change. In a few weeks, not one of those actors and only one of those 5 characters will still be on the show. NuDool.

[quote] Throwback to New Year 2016 with the NuTeens!

Are there any NuTeens left, or all of them OlTeens now.

Is Claire considered a NuTeen?

No, R412. She’s a NuNuTeen.

R409 Now they're the NoTeens. GrindrJoey was so cute before he turned into a hobo.

Since Claire is Ciara's neice, was Claire around before Ciara was SORAS'ed? Was she shipped in from HK where her parents are based?

Is the actor who plays Theo a gay?

Sonny is "heartbroken" this week! Funny how things worked out.

Will: I don't want to be the "guy" who cheats on his husband. LOOL!

Great stuff.

Marlena: What did we walk in on back there?

Will: Oh, I was kissing Paul.

No slut shaming Will. Like mother, like son.

Why was Jennifer Horton-Deveraux wearing on of Alice Horton's Famous Donuts to the New Year's Eve Gala?

Who does she think she is, the Linda Carter of Salem?

doNUts

DOONuts

[quote]Will has no idea what's in his heart, because he's a blank slate.

Will's hole has perfect sense memory of Paul's Bat.

Is Will’s hole filled with strudel or silicone?

Silicone?

Tyler Christopher didn’t impress me a whole lot today. Other than having a different haircut and speaking in a measured manner his Stefan O. is a lot like Nikolas.

[quote] Silicone?

Yes the same substance Chambo’s implants are made of.

[quote]Yes the same substance Chambo’s implants are made of.

I suppose a silicone anus would make sense to the kind of person who calls Chandler "Chambo."

I was hesitant about bringing back Vivian but Sorel was relishing every line.

R425 Agree that Tyler Christopher didn't do much but one OTT performance per episode is enough.

Is Strasser bumping pussys with Sorel?

Not feeling StefanO! But the reaction from the Salem crew was kind of amusing.

Tuesday's Will Scenes.

It's filled with frosting, R423.

Are there daily compilations of Freddie’s scene on YouTube?

Another 50 or 60 pounds, and we willl have Stefan 👦 Heffernan-DiMera.

I 💟 the NuGrammarian !

I was never a big DOOL fan, but I used to watch it occasionally. Was home sick today and caught it as I was flipping channels. I saw the big StefanO scenes...I didn't know Tyler Christopher wasn't on GH anymore. Still not much of an actor, but still handsome.

Nice seeing Louise Sorel, always. So...Thaoo isn't Tony, he's "Andre"?I guess I remember that. Is Peter Reckell still on the show? I saw Hope, she looked good.

I had no clue who the young couple at the party scene were..,Chad and Abigail maybe?

What I noticed the most was the HORRIBLE Cheeto orange makeup on Chik-Fil-A lover Melissa Reeves! What was up with her face??

I wasn't impressed with TC. He's too soft spoken and not intimidating at all. Doesn't help that he's super short and probably has a small package unlike EJ.

Chloe's joke about Sami's paternity lab was pretty funny.

R433 Not aware of any on Youtube... but there is a fuller clip including Sonny only (and Paul only) scenes on Facebook.

Hadn’t seen Vivian before but she seems to hit just the right tone of evil and crazy, with a sense of drama - a good addition to the canvas. Seems a bit frail (not quite Peggy/Caroline) but still pulling it off so far.

I did chuckle a little when 70-something Vivian said she was a "young girl" when she got knocked up with Stefan0. Tyler Christopher is 45 but looks and comes across much younger.

[quote]No slut shaming Will. Like mother, like son.

Okay, that was funny.

I liked that Stefan's introduction was low key and not over the top, you don't want him coming in mustache twirling. Just like the way the DiMera's were introduced back in the day. And he has chemistry with Abig.ail already. And I remember that a lot of you didn't care for EJ when he first appeared either.

I also like naughty Brady.

I give today a solid A. Good start for 2018.

It's just weird seeing GV with that old lady.

I know that RSW has been filming scenes, maybe he will come back as gay and realize his anger towards Will was really love. Maybe Derrick can return too.

I'm not normally into hetero sex but I do think a Ciara/Claire/Tripp threeway would be hot and "groundbreaking."

For anyone into Tripp, here's a Twitter account that posts only Tripp videos. It goes back all the way to his start date last year.

I love how CS & CM actually look into each other's eyes when they are acting together. They really do have great chemistry! Horita all the way!

Poor Eric... Hopefully he was just letting down Chik-Fil-Jen down easy with that chaste peck on the cheek.

PLEASE do not ever put Brady back in "Recovery"! EM is so funny and sexy as boozy scheming Brady. Can't wait 'til he sees Vivian!

TC looked very hot today!

R442, Aunt/niece sex is disgusting.

Was it wrong that I giggled a little bit when Will kind of sort of broke Sonny's heart.

Love Tyler's hair. I thought he was losing it on GH. He must have gotten implants or that is a really good hair system.

I hate all this Will/Sonny/Paul shit. They're not on enough to make any of this understandable. Emotions veer from one scene to the next. If Freddie was leaving the show it wouldn't be a problem but he's still there which means this tripe will go on endlessly. Fucking gay Ron can't even elevate the gay story above this shit show.

R446 = Will & Sonny stan.

I wish Vivian's super hot son Quinn, the pimp who turned into a nice guy spa owner, was still on the show.

Today we saw black chest hair at the open top button of Freddie's white shirt,

R449 It's been shown for several weeks now which indicates no shirtless scenes so no shaving required.

R447 Not even close. Will has been dead to me since he told Sonny he was bored with their life and called him a glorified barista. Yeah, you fucking ungrateful asshole. He's only the guy who took you, your baby mama and daughter in and supported the whole lot. My fervent wish is that Sonny gets over whatever is keeping him tethered to Sami Jr. and find someone a whole lot better. His treatment of Paul was shabby so I don't care about that ship anymore, either. If Paul lets himself get involved with Will then he'll be ruined, too and the triangle will consist of three blithering idiots.

R451 isn't Wilson fan. He's something much worse. He's a Sonny fan. Ewww.

R450 Would that be a FCF choice? .. Because the show hasn't been making Jumpstreet or FOWBF shave their chests for sex scenes. Jumpstreet shaved for that wrestling movie he did in early 2017, which is why he looked shaved on Days in late summer. But by September, he was furry again. And it seemed they wanted Abi to luxuriate in FOWBF's hairy chest.

R452 Don't be jealous. You can't help your complete lack of taste.

[quote] If Freddie was leaving the show it wouldn't be a problem ....

Maybe they won't renew his contract coming due in February, so he'd be gone by August.

Of course, the entire show itself still needs to be picked up to still be on the air after that .. lol!

Freddie makes me cum. Hard.

[quote] lol!

LOOL! )

In his best/worst of 2017, Michael Fairman had lots of praise for Days.

WilSon Divorce!

Brought to you by The Plaid Emporium.

R459 It is not possible to watch it.

Wednesday's big WilSon breakup scene. So well done!

Freddie deserves another Emmy! Chan, not so much. Too much smirking.

LOOL! Is Ron implying Stefan(o) swings both ways?

[quote]Who should Stefan(o) be paired with? #besidesthewaiterinthebackground #days

Freddie was really good in the scene. He really looked like he was hurt and in pain. I wonder if they took the craft service table away.

all the W&W R465 please!!!

This sucks big time. As long as Will has amnesia, none of this matters. He'll eventually remember and the merry-go-round will start up all over again. Cancel this shit already.

With all the Brady-Eve bedroom scenes they need to bring back her moaning music.

Will is moving out of the Mansion already... How long was he there? A week? But I am still waiting for him to meet Victor!

That waiter’s look in R464 reminds me of the early days of Derrick when he worked at the Salem Inn.

The NuLOOK by Dior.

My favorite classic WilSon storyline was when Will had to turn on the tears and the charms to get Sonny back after it was revealed he was Ari's real father. So it should be fun to see Will chase after Paul, and if WilSon is endgame, he might get to chase after Sonny again at some point down the line.

From R458's link:

[quote]BEST PERFORMANCE BY A RECURRING CHARACTER

[quote]Rob Scott Wilson – Days of our Lives

[quote]I mean, can we just all admit how much we love it when Killer Ben pops up on our screens? Rob Scott Wilson has taken this disturbed character and brought him to soap opera cult status.  Who better to bust up your wedding with a major bombshell, or agree to stage choking the life out of one of his intended victims?  Bravo, Rob.

Couldn't agree more!

[quote]BEST PERFORMANCE BY A RECURRING CHARACTER: Rob Scott Wilson – Days of our Lives

He should keep recurring. And recumming.

I just really hope Sonny leaves. Is it true Freddie's contract is up in February? I'd love if they recast. I'm sorry but he's very unappealing physically, as well as the worst actor of the three gay characters. If they have Will remember their "great love" and dump Paul for him, I'll scream!

R475 Yes. Per Jason47, his contract is up in February. But even if they don't renew, he'd probably be on screen till the end of July.

R476 Shouldn't we know by now whether FCF's renewing or not? I think FOWBF's contract is also ending soon.

Sonny, begging Will to fall in love with him, was pathetic.

If there is one thing that will knows for certain, he doesn't really find any sizzle between himself and Sonny. But with Paul.......It's gonna happen.

Sorry, Sonny! Time to move on.

🐮 MOOve on.

When they were showing flashbacks the other week about the early Wilson days, FS was a completely different person, and I don't just mean much, much thinner.

He could ACT then. He helped make Sonny a fresh, different kind of gay character, rather than the usual Will Horton closeted type.

But now? FS has really lost all acting ability INCLUDING today. That was NO "Emmy nomination" scene. The waiter checking out Stefan(O) deserves an Emmy before FS gets another nom with the way he's been performing the last 3 years.

FIRE FS and RECAST, please.

M00ve on, indeed.

Were Sonny and Will actually divorced, in the process of, or just separated ?

Maybe Freddie is back on "the liquor."

R481 Just separated. They revealed it was a legal separation later. Sonny (in Paris at the time, I believe) seemed on the verge of reconciliation after receiving a voice message from Will when Ben strangled Will. That's why Sonny has this guilt trip that if he had come back to Salem sooner, Will wouldn't have been murdered.

FS only stopped the liquor (so he claimed) for his diet.

But July 4, 2017, he was Tweeting out pics of him drinking booze at Independence Day parties, so I'm not sure when the non-drinking alleged weight loss was supposed to be happening.

But FS has NEVER said he's in "recovery" and has sent out pictures of himself drinking many, many times since his drunken driving accident which severely injured his alleged girlfriend.

He's not an A.A.-er, never has been; he was just cutting out alcohol in a desperate attempt to lose the weight.

R484 He started bloating up on screen since Jan 2017, so one can assume he gave up whatever diet by summer 2016 in real life. Pity, too because he did look very good around Nov 2016 on screen.

R476 Not necessarily. I think Sony-Corday has to give the actor something like six weeks notice, if they've made the decision to not open negotiations to renew their contract. So depending on what date in February his contract is actually up, they could still be ahead of that date. The other thing is, negotiations aren't always successful, nor is such news always immediately announced/confirmed.

Did anyone else find Will's eyes bothersome when he was breaking up with Sonny? They kept moving back and forth when he was looking deep into Sonny's eyes. I watched Sonny when he was looking at Will and his eyes stayed right on Will. Cut to Will looking at Sonny and his eyes kept darting back and forth. Was he looking at cue cards or does he just have some weird tic?

Freddie sounds like an alcoholic.

R487, Chandler did that with Christopher Sean's eyes yesterday, so I guess that's a Chandler thing.

R487 Will was nervous, isn't it obvious?

This made me LMAOO!

Fairman still does a yearly Best & Worst? Must be hard with just 4 soaps on the air.

I pretty much quit reading any soap press when AMC went away.

R492 It's not that difficult when the reviewer makes up their own wacky categories (e.g. "Best Goodbye to an Icon"). Soap Opera Digest still does their Best and Worst article as well. They even included three pages of "Honorable Mentions" with such categories as "Props of the Year" and "Meh Motivations."

Susan's mysterious visitor was mentioned again today. So it has to be significant later on, right? I do like that Susan is not forgotten, and I think she may ultimately hold the key to Will regaining his memories in the future.

Is Freddie still dating the woman who was in the car when he was cited for DUI in Ohio?

So Sonny looked so distraught that Will likes kissing Paul, but didn't Sonny like kissing Paul not too long ago?

Sonny can easily cock block Will by getting Paul back ASAP, while Paul is still hung up on him.

Someone in the hair dept. hates Missy Reeves and convinced her the donut look was good. Just like that stylist who convinced Celine Dion to wear that hat and white blazer with no blouse to 98 Oscars.

R495 Yes, and somehow these one-time face cream, now bracelet hawkers think you want to know EVERYTHING they do! .. so they have a video channel on youtube. .. In one, the gf referred to the two of them as a "power couple" .. lol! .. Here they are moving into their new apartment a month ago.

R499 Partners in crimes, those two.

Not trying to start anything, but a lot of you give Chandler a hard time for smiling or smirking but have you ever checked out Billy Flynn? He's constantly smiling and smirking in scenes.

R501 Because there are more CM trolls here than BF trolls.

R501 Because they like their Will uglier

[quote]Susan's mysterious visitor was mentioned again today. So it has to be significant later on, right? I do like that Susan is not forgotten, and I think she may ultimately hold the key to Will regaining his memories in the future.

Do you think they're gonna end up bringing Eileen back this year for something? She is so fucking good!

Strudel Will.

[quote]I watched Sonny when he was looking at Will and his eyes stayed right on Will. Cut to Will looking at Sonny and his eyes kept darting back and forth. Was he looking at cue cards or does he just have some weird tic?

Hmmmmm....let's think. The guy trying to keep you tries to look deeply into your eyes, to make you love him.

The guy breaking up with you darts his eyes around nervously to avoid the intimacy, and to avoid seeing the pain he's causing.

Sounds like great acting on both parts.

I hate the "Fat" Freddie trolls because it's so silly. I dont watch GH but I know who TC is and he looks 50 lbs heavier than I remember him. A real chunk now.

Poor Freddie Smith, from his weight losses and gains, has that near permanent double chin thing, even when he's a normal weight. LiLo has it, too. Maybe he should try Kybella injections but that has so many potential side effects.

Anyway, Sonny was great today. It made Will look like an asshole but ...too soon to move in together. Will has a lot of wild oats to spoo and Paul will swallow every sweet, creamy cupful.

Sonny better not go crying to Uncle Victor about Will or else Victor might take away his CEO position for making a bad choice and not being able to handle the consequences.

[quote]Wednesday's big WilSon breakup scene. So well done!

JE-SUS. I thought that would NEVER end. Awful just awful. I had to look away it was so embarrassing.

You know, Sonny kind of got what he deserved. Will is alive and so Sonny throws Paul out without a second thought. He was rushing things with Will trying to recreate something that wasn't there and trying to force something that Will clearly wasn't feeling. So suck it up buttercup. Will is not the villain here. As long as he and Marlena are close, I hope he never gets his memory back.

Now that Chandler has been back for a month or two, I wish even harder that they had rehired Strudel. ChanWill redefines "laconic."

FS got off of the liquor after his DUI accident that almost killed his girlfriend.

He managed to evade serious charges and got off with a light sentence. He may have received a lengthy probation that generally forbids alcohol consumption, but that doesn't guarantee that someone will always abide by conditions of their parole. Especially someone who is a "Problem Habitual DrUNk.

Smith was sentenced in Feb. 2014, to 3 days in jail, one year license suspension, and 2 years probation.

R511 Wishing for Strudel defines moronic.

Being r514 defines assholescent.

[quote]Now that Chandler has been back for a month or two, I wonder how we ever survived Strudel.

Fixed it.

Up to the wedding, the show made some effort to groom him into something like Chandler Will, but after that, the show was just waiting out his contract to get rid of him.

R509 Don't torture yourself. Just quit watching the show. Because if you think the best scenes are "just awful" there's nothing here for you. It doesn't get better than it's been lately.

They are shipping Theo off to South Africa?! Well, at least it's not prison.

Is this an all white show now?

Paul’s not white.

[quote] Is this an all white show now?

Freddie is said to be white adjacent.

I thought they were going to send Theo to the same "recasting" clinic Chad went to.

As long as Strudel covers up that fugly tattoo, I think the show kind of owes it to him to throw some work his way and hire him as Paramedic #2 during the next big medical crisis.

[quote] SPOILER: Jennifer and Eric's hesitations to succumb to their feelings for one another may push one of them into someone else's arms.

Hopefully, this means Derrick is returning, and he'll finally succeed at seducing Eric.

R520 You can kiss my black ass.

R517 Contract or not, the show has a clause where they can dump you after 13 weeks or something of that nature. Chan had a contract that was up in Dec . of 2013 and they unceremoniously fired him in Aug. of that year because he got too big for his britches and announced he was leaving before discussing it with the suits. Either that or he wouldn't blow Greg Meng anymore after the second Emmy.

About half the show right now (Hope, Rafe, Jennifer, Eric, Abe, Theo, J.J., Kayla, Steve) is fast forward material. The other stuff (Will, Sonny, Paul, Marlena, John, Brady, Eve, Kate, Andre, Chad, Stefan, Vivian) is gold.

Poor Theo didn’t have the hairy legs necessary to remain on the show.

R528 What about Tripp, Claire and Ciara? Personally, I will watch Tripp even though it's hard to stomach Claire and Ciara now that he's stuck with them.

Why is the OP grayed out? And I'm set to Asbestos Eyeballs.

[quote]Hopefully, this means Derrick is returning, and he'll finally succeed at seducing Eric.

No, it means the return of Dr. Shah as a date for Jennifer. Shah is played by Andre Khabbazi, star of the2001 gay indie film CIrcuit.

r532, is that Shemar Moore in the middle?

R527 Pretty sure they also released GW from his contract early, just like they did CM. .. GW's first air date was January 8, 2014. So given that date and the fact that contracts are generally for annual time periods, then he should have been played until about January 8, 2016. But his last air date was actually October 13, 2015 - which is just about 13 weeks (or one cycle) prior to that.

R531 In the past few years, most notably after the format change, the Frauen and the extreme political types have taken over DL and F&F into oblivion any thread they find offensive. That includes all gossip threads, especially ones about gay gossip. (Gay gossip threads are intensely despised by the closet cases who comprise a huge block of posters, DL being the only completely anonymous board of its type.)

R532 He also used to be a long-time (popular) bartender at The Abbey in WeHo. Yeah, he's "straight" and has kids, but seems to know how to play.

Here he was (on the left) manning the bar's tent at the White Party a few years ago.

And his ass was one of the better things about "Circuit." .. Don't waste that on Ms. Chick-fil-A!

I am officially already sick of the "Stefan O" story line. Also, if Theo needs to move to South Africa, I will beg him to take Claire with him.

R538 Claire is needed for the NuTriangle! Bye, Theo. At least until the recast comes back.

R534 That makes sense. Except in GW's case, the writers/show thought well ahead to ruin his character and give him an "exit" storyline.

Maybe Eric will fall into the arms of JJ during their counseling sessions.

Look who's back for Frauday's episode.

Roman has time to date Anna but still hasn't seen his undead grandson?

Love that Anna is back. I've been wanting her and Roman to get back together forever.

Remember when the murder of Will was supposed to resonate throughout Salem and affect future stories? FF to the return of Will Horton was going to affect many characters and stories. I must have missed all the family interactions then because I know I didn't see any at the NYE party. Thanks Ron

R545 Worse than that... Will did not even get to do much at the family Christmas party. I mean, they announced his return from the DEAD (it's Salem, so it'a not that special) and he awkwardly waved, and that was it. Maybe Marlena warned them not to crowd him because of his amnesia but still that was a rather chilly reception.

[quote][R509] Don't torture yourself. Just quit watching the show. Because if you think the best scenes are "just awful" there's nothing here for you. It doesn't get better than it's been lately.

Awww…did I hurt your whittle feelings? Nah, I don’t think I well. I’m a masochist.

Wait, I thought the actor playing Theo was leaving for his own reason. Is this not the case?

Theo got fired because his legs aren’t hairy.

Spaz nigger was fired?

They fired the first actress who played Jade when she was about 2 weeks into her contract and didn't tell her or her management.

[quote]They fired the first actress who played Jade when she was about 2 weeks into her contract and didn't tell her or her management.

So she just kept showing up every day?

No r552 she showed up one day because she had been scheduled to tape that day and it was on that day she came into the studio that she learned she had been fired and that she had been replaced with another actress in the role of Jade.

That was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, r553. I failed.

[quote] she had been replaced with another actress in the role of Jade.

NuJade?

.......

According to Searcy's post-Days interview on After Buzz, she said that she first turned down their offer for a two-year contract, so they went back and forth until they settled on a one-year contract. But she says, she was still unsure about the commitment, as she wanted to continue to audition for other roles, and pulled out of it before finalizing. That's when she says they informed her that they were going to recast the role. She says that she was then told when her last day was going to be, but apparently, there was some confusion on the schedule, and after she taped that day, she was told that she still had one more day, so she planned to say her goodbyes on the new date. .. According to her, she found out about the NuJade the night before this. She hadn't received her call sheet via email, so she had GrindrJoey look at his, where he informed her that it listed NuJade's name. The show ended up using NuJade that day, but they also ended up having to pay both actresses for the day. .. Honestly, the way Days tapes the show (more than one episode per day), I can understand how something like that might happen. .. Anyway, if TPTB were trying to diss her, well, then they ended up having to pay her anyway.

is there a current GH thread? any help?

Is Eileen Davidson coming back or is she done? And as Kristen?

Eileen's scenes are done. Everything she filmed last summer aired. Her arc was completed in November. It was just a handful of episodes. That doesn't mean she won't be back this year, but no, she hasn't come back yet, or it hasn't been announced. Nothing from her is coming. Ron has been talking about her a lot.

At the NYE party, Will is on the phone with Roger (the Elvis dude), and apparently someone visited Susan at the psych hospital and made her very upset. No names mentioned but I read it as the next step to Kristen and her red dress laughing scene. DiMeras like a slow chess game.

[quote] Ron has been talking about her a lot.

I take it she has hairy legs.

R558 Don't post there, but I believe the current GH thread is this one.

I know, r561, maybe it was EJ. I like that Ron has found a way to keep her on the show without having her present. Eileen shot all her episodes on Mondays when Y&R is not filming. He was the one who decided to bring Kristen back. He wanted to get even more out of her. He couldn't just do Susan. He wanted everything. The Quan guy came up with Susan being behind Will's disappearance. They considered Kristen. Here's the interview.

Eileen said it's no trouble doing both shows. Hopefully they can work something out. Ron told Eileen to submit all her scenes for the Emmys.

r563

thanks

How do Anna and Jenifer know each other??

[quote]I don’t think I well. I’m a masochist.

I don't think you're well, either, but that's another story.

But I doubt you're a masochist. It's more likely you're just an unemployed basement-dwelling troll with nothing better to do than watch shows you hate simply so you'll have something to bitch about.

I don't even have time to watch all the shows I like, much less ones I despise. What a luxury it must be to have so much free time on your hands!

FF and Ignore R550, the always annoying Spaz Troll who's also racist.

💋 Don't forget about my shapely black ass.

I thought NuWriters were going to breathe NuLife into this show with NuCharacters and NuPlotlines ?

All I'm seeing is SameOLDshit.

What about MY black ass? Not good enough?

Anna was married to Roman Brady.

She is Carrie Brady's mother.

R572 What does Anna think of Marlena? Do they get along?

Yes, very well. Marlena partially raised Carrie while Anna was "missing" or whatever. Carrie considers Marlena her mother as much as Anna.

Anna and Marlena have been friends for decades, not rivals or anything.

I do think Anna used to mock Roman's nickname for Marlena, though - "Doc" - in the past when they weren't as friendly.

Thanks for answering my question R560.... seven times.

R560 I think Ron is probably planning for Susan/Kristen to return again in Nov since it worked out so well last year.

R574 Is Anna back for a long stay? It would give Roman some storyline. Still can't believe he hasn't even seen Will yet.

Just read a spoiler that Anna and Kate will have a showdown. That should be interesting.

Eric is all grossed out at the thought of Roman mumbling sweet nothings in Anna's ear all night.

Now he can understand how most people feel about him and Jenn-Fil-A.

I only really watched DOOL regularly when I was in Jr. High-high school. That was during the Hope/Bo, Pete/Melissa, Liz/Carlo etc days. It was never really my favorite show though. My favorite person was Gwen, played by Anne Marie Martin, but I don't remember anything about what her storylines were! Looks like she quit acting when she married (and divorced) Michael Crichton.

Gwen was Larry Welch's mistress and I think he killed her.

It looks like Abigail is on her way to her third piece of DiMera cock. Can't wait to see what Andre and Aunt Viv are up to. Days had a great week.

Ann Marie Martin aka Eddie Benton played that nasty bitch Wendy in Prom Night

She also had a bit part in another Jamie Lee Curtis, who was good friends with her, horror film, Halloween II

I like Anna. I hope she stays around for a while.

I loved when Anna and Calliope and Tony ran the fashion business. That was a fun story. They crashed on an island and found Jasmine. Awww. the 80s.

Wait, are y'all telling me that Leanne Hunley is back on the show? She was my favorite..loved her and Calliope! Didn't see her when I tuned in a couple of times this week when I was home sick. I'll have to check in again. Haven't seen her since she was on GILMORE GIRLS.

The show has a small budget so it generally can't afford the high salaries some popular performers feel they're worth. Therefore, most of these hires are on a short term basis so I wouldn't expect Anna to be long term.

R586 That's because today is her first day back... and she didn't have much to do except gossip with Chick-fil-A Jen.

r588

what a weird scene, Were Anna and Jen friends?

Wonder if Anna will end up getting involved with the DiMera business. She is Tony's widow, right?

I assume Anna is there to broaden the list of suspects for Andre's murder and usher in the return of Tony.

We should be hearing renewal news shortly, correct? The winter TCA is underway.

R591 Tony Dimera is returning from the dead? Move over, Will Whorton.

"Who made you the boss of kissing?" "I think we've got biology covered." LOOL! Gayling Will was so smooth with the ladies, and Gabi was so pale and non-skanky back then.

Andre has come back from the dead three or four times now. The last time he came back, they didn't even bother to give an explanation. They just pretended he hadn't been killed off previously.

[quote]We should be hearing renewal news shortly, correct? The winter TCA is underway.

Yeah, and it has been according to insiders.

Am I the only one who finds the Eve/Brady stuff dumb?

I actually like Eve this time, but I really hate the thought of Theresa returning. I can't stand that character!

Rafe and Hope and totally unnecessary and I can't stand Missy Reeves and her character. I just don't get her. What is up with Abigail. When did she totally become a DiMera? Does she have any link to her mother and that family anymore?

Other than that, the show is excellent.

If Eileen is ever let go from Y&R, and my god, I pray it happens again, I love knowing Ron will sign her up full-time in two seconds and make her the star of the show!

If there a reason why they keep Kristian Alfonso on? Why isn't she on recurring status? You know is on recurring status: Suzanne Rogers! I read that John Aniston is being killed off. Did they ever write off Caroline properly??

I have to say that I already love Tyler Christopher. He has presence.

Why haven't they written Peter Blake back into the show? I know a recast would have to be done, but right there is another DiMera... hell, they could drop the Blake like they did with Kristen and make him Peter DiMera and wouldn't have to create a new character to restock the DiMera empire. Why hasn't Quan thought of this??

Andre's murder? They're killing off Victor.

Caroline is the back whipping up a batch of Irish soda bread biscuits.

End of thread ?

thank god