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Sid Vicious's GF Nancy Spungen

She was an evil person, born that way. Some speculate Aspergers or Schizophrenia.. Sid picked the wrong woman!!

by Anonymousreply 3512/19/2017

SIDNEY, YOU DIDN'T SAVE ME NUFFIN'!!

by Anonymousreply 112/07/2017

I read the book her mother wrote and she said when nancy was a baby and she picked her up or tried to give her affection that Nancy would go stiff like a board

by Anonymousreply 212/07/2017

"I Don't Want to Live This Life" is the book by Nancy's mother. It's a very good read and explains that Nancy was messed up her entire life. What her family went through is heartbreaking. There was never any hope for this kid. She was born nasty.

by Anonymousreply 312/07/2017

I appreciated that in the book Nancy’s mom doesn’t really blame Sid. She saw her daughter’s violent death as an inevitability.

by Anonymousreply 412/07/2017

I remember that book well, R3, even though it's been decades. Yes, she was a bad seed. Courtney Love is similar.

by Anonymousreply 512/07/2017

Courtney Love’s upbringing was a nightmare. Both her parents are awful people. Very different early life than Nancy’s.

by Anonymousreply 612/07/2017

Nothing to do with schizophrenia or autism/ Aspergers.

Sociopathy is the clinical term for her syndrome.

by Anonymousreply 712/07/2017

r7, Nancy was autistic . She had no social skills, blind rages, excessive cruelty and just a miserable person to be around.

by Anonymousreply 812/07/2017

Sid leveled her karma.

by Anonymousreply 912/07/2017

chrissy hynde goes OFF on nancy in the auto bio Reckless: My Life as a Pretender

by Anonymousreply 1012/07/2017

This is Nancy's younger sister Susan, who Nancy particularly terrorized during their childhood. She is VERY successful in the food industry . YAY!!!!

by Anonymousreply 1112/07/2017

[quote]Nothing to do with schizophrenia or autism/ Aspergers. Sociopathy is the clinical term for her syndrome.

Read the article, Poo Shoes:

[quote]The family brought her to a succession of doctors, psychologists, and clinics; at 11, she was diagnosed with schizophrenia

The doctors who actually examined her know more than you. despite your penchant for labeling everyone a sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 1212/07/2017

She was a Courtney Love-type, a calculating hanger-on obsessed with snagging a Rock Star.

Most people say Sid was a sweet, gullible, not very bright addict. And that Nancy was probably murdered by one of their shady acquaintances.

by Anonymousreply 1312/07/2017

r12, I am happy you told the Asperger apologist off, I believe back then they were not familiar with Autism and aspergers(Nancy was born in 58) so they thought Skizo, BUT they never told the parents. They found out AFTER her death.

by Anonymousreply 1412/07/2017

I always thought she was bipolar or had borderline personality disorder that she tried to self medicate with heroin? The book her mom wrote is HARROWING!

by Anonymousreply 1512/07/2017

funny, i just got Sid & Nancy from the library Monday....2 discs. LOVE OLDMAN, in this and everything. where is his oscar??

there was a lot of debate and back and forth about Nancy's mom and that book and a lot of it was not so hot so about her....i

read it years ago but it's gone now......not something i need to re-read.

by Anonymousreply 1612/07/2017

Yeah “and I don’t want to live this life” is not a book you want to revisit, but I’m glad I read it.

by Anonymousreply 1712/07/2017

In the book, Nancy’s mom said Nancy was born with the cord wrapped around her neck. I don’t remember the details but I think she was blue or had been deprived of oxygen during birth. She was violent since she was a toddler. She tried to stab a phone installer when she was two or three. Her mom said she was unusually strong for her age too.

I think Nancy was probably born brain damaged and it affected her whole life. The rest of the Spungen family were intelligent, relatively happy people and Nancy’s behavior ruined all their lives. None of them had mental illness and it’s likely it was the difficult birth, but no one listened to her mother or took her seriously. They blamed her mother for being a bad mother instead.

If Nancy was born today, they probably would have done a C-section and she probably would have been okay. In those days, male doctors didn’t listen to female patients and labor proceeded around their golf games and personal convenience.

by Anonymousreply 1812/07/2017

we;; since they are both dead junkies nothing matters then does it?

by Anonymousreply 1912/07/2017

I suspect there was never going to be a "right" woman for Sid. I think he was either gay, or bi with a 90% preference for men. In my opinion, there's more to the breakup with Lydon than just a friendship between two straight men, destroyed by drugs, Malcolm McLaren and a 1970s version of Yoko.. and I don't think Lydon ever got over Sid.

by Anonymousreply 2012/07/2017

[quote]I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Nancy was a drug mule, but she could fit a length of rubber tubing, spoon, zippo lighter and box of handy wipes up her flue and still have room for a can of Elnett and a box of Milk Duds.

by Anonymousreply 2112/07/2017

^I must read Chrissie’s book!

by Anonymousreply 2212/07/2017

Psychopaths are charming, manipulative, smart and often very successful. I think Courtey Love is one. Sociopaths are disordered and impulsive, unable to hide their mental illness, like N. Spungen. My sister, a borderline with bipolar disorder, is very much like how Spungen's mother describes her daughter in the book--miserable, angry and self-destructive from birth.

by Anonymousreply 2312/08/2017

Her mother said she never stopped crying. That reminds me of that movie “We Need to Talk About Kevin” where she is also cursed with a child with an anti social personality disorder. I feel bad for Nancy’s mother, how exhausting that must be to never bring comfort to your baby, even after dosing it with antipsychotics and tranquilizers. When I read the book it seemed like moving Nancy to NYC was the best thing, because it liberated her family from Nancy’s craziness and also enabled Nancy to pursue what she thought was going to make her happy: being a hanger-on/groupie to rock stars. No parent wants their child to die, but in Nancy’s case it must have seemed both inevitable and a relief. The story was probably completely played out for the family and they were ready to move on.

by Anonymousreply 2412/09/2017

KARMA

by Anonymousreply 2512/09/2017

R20 is hilarious in his desperation.

by Anonymousreply 2612/09/2017

This is probably the 30th thread where the same, Asperger's-afflicted, maniac OP has started a new thread based on a tip he got from ME in a previous thread.

This time, he stole my post @ r 503 in the "Real Jerks Rock Musicians" thread as if it's he's breaking original news or observations.

DEAR OP: Sid & Nancy are old news to everyone else and they've been discussed to DEATH. LITERALLY!

Nobody wants to drudge through this again and you don't get points for namedropping. This should have stayed a footnote in the other thread!

You're not cool enough to start threads, so just STOP.

by Anonymousreply 2712/09/2017

That was a good read, thanks for sharing, OP.

by Anonymousreply 2812/19/2017

"Sociopathy" is not a clinical term at all, r7.

by Anonymousreply 2912/19/2017
by Anonymousreply 3012/19/2017

Really, R7? On what basis do you say this? Anti-social Personality Disorder is what it's called in the DSM, but clinicians and researchers use sociopathy regularly and interchangeably with ASPD

by Anonymousreply 3112/19/2017

My ph.d therapist said it sounds as if my brother may be a sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 3212/19/2017

A dark cloud.

by Anonymousreply 3312/19/2017

R30 loved that scene.

by Anonymousreply 3412/19/2017

I love the name Spungen.

My next cat...

by Anonymousreply 3512/19/2017
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