She was an evil person, born that way. Some speculate Aspergers or Schizophrenia.. Sid picked the wrong woman!!
Sid Vicious's GF Nancy Spungen
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SIDNEY, YOU DIDN'T SAVE ME NUFFIN'!!
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I read the book her mother wrote and she said when nancy was a baby and she picked her up or tried to give her affection that Nancy would go stiff like a board
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"I Don't Want to Live This Life" is the book by Nancy's mother. It's a very good read and explains that Nancy was messed up her entire life. What her family went through is heartbreaking. There was never any hope for this kid. She was born nasty.
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I appreciated that in the book Nancy’s mom doesn’t really blame Sid. She saw her daughter’s violent death as an inevitability.
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I remember that book well, R3, even though it's been decades. Yes, she was a bad seed. Courtney Love is similar.
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Courtney Love’s upbringing was a nightmare. Both her parents are awful people. Very different early life than Nancy’s.
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Nothing to do with schizophrenia or autism/ Aspergers.
Sociopathy is the clinical term for her syndrome.
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r7, Nancy was autistic . She had no social skills, blind rages, excessive cruelty and just a miserable person to be around.
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Sid leveled her karma.
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chrissy hynde goes OFF on nancy in the auto bio Reckless: My Life as a Pretender
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This is Nancy's younger sister Susan, who Nancy particularly terrorized during their childhood. She is VERY successful in the food industry . YAY!!!!
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[quote]Nothing to do with schizophrenia or autism/ Aspergers. Sociopathy is the clinical term for her syndrome.
Read the article, Poo Shoes:
[quote]The family brought her to a succession of doctors, psychologists, and clinics; at 11, she was diagnosed with schizophrenia
The doctors who actually examined her know more than you. despite your penchant for labeling everyone a sociopath.
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She was a Courtney Love-type, a calculating hanger-on obsessed with snagging a Rock Star.
Most people say Sid was a sweet, gullible, not very bright addict. And that Nancy was probably murdered by one of their shady acquaintances.
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r12, I am happy you told the Asperger apologist off, I believe back then they were not familiar with Autism and aspergers(Nancy was born in 58) so they thought Skizo, BUT they never told the parents. They found out AFTER her death.
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I always thought she was bipolar or had borderline personality disorder that she tried to self medicate with heroin? The book her mom wrote is HARROWING!
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funny, i just got Sid & Nancy from the library Monday....2 discs. LOVE OLDMAN, in this and everything. where is his oscar??
there was a lot of debate and back and forth about Nancy's mom and that book and a lot of it was not so hot so about her....i
read it years ago but it's gone now......not something i need to re-read.
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Yeah “and I don’t want to live this life” is not a book you want to revisit, but I’m glad I read it.
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In the book, Nancy’s mom said Nancy was born with the cord wrapped around her neck. I don’t remember the details but I think she was blue or had been deprived of oxygen during birth. She was violent since she was a toddler. She tried to stab a phone installer when she was two or three. Her mom said she was unusually strong for her age too.
I think Nancy was probably born brain damaged and it affected her whole life. The rest of the Spungen family were intelligent, relatively happy people and Nancy’s behavior ruined all their lives. None of them had mental illness and it’s likely it was the difficult birth, but no one listened to her mother or took her seriously. They blamed her mother for being a bad mother instead.
If Nancy was born today, they probably would have done a C-section and she probably would have been okay. In those days, male doctors didn’t listen to female patients and labor proceeded around their golf games and personal convenience.
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we;; since they are both dead junkies nothing matters then does it?
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I suspect there was never going to be a "right" woman for Sid. I think he was either gay, or bi with a 90% preference for men. In my opinion, there's more to the breakup with Lydon than just a friendship between two straight men, destroyed by drugs, Malcolm McLaren and a 1970s version of Yoko.. and I don't think Lydon ever got over Sid.
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[quote]I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Nancy was a drug mule, but she could fit a length of rubber tubing, spoon, zippo lighter and box of handy wipes up her flue and still have room for a can of Elnett and a box of Milk Duds.
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^I must read Chrissie’s book!
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Psychopaths are charming, manipulative, smart and often very successful. I think Courtey Love is one. Sociopaths are disordered and impulsive, unable to hide their mental illness, like N. Spungen. My sister, a borderline with bipolar disorder, is very much like how Spungen's mother describes her daughter in the book--miserable, angry and self-destructive from birth.
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Her mother said she never stopped crying. That reminds me of that movie “We Need to Talk About Kevin” where she is also cursed with a child with an anti social personality disorder. I feel bad for Nancy’s mother, how exhausting that must be to never bring comfort to your baby, even after dosing it with antipsychotics and tranquilizers. When I read the book it seemed like moving Nancy to NYC was the best thing, because it liberated her family from Nancy’s craziness and also enabled Nancy to pursue what she thought was going to make her happy: being a hanger-on/groupie to rock stars. No parent wants their child to die, but in Nancy’s case it must have seemed both inevitable and a relief. The story was probably completely played out for the family and they were ready to move on.
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|by Anonymous||reply 25||12/09/2017|
R20 is hilarious in his desperation.
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This is probably the 30th thread where the same, Asperger's-afflicted, maniac OP has started a new thread based on a tip he got from ME in a previous thread.
This time, he stole my post @ r 503 in the "Real Jerks Rock Musicians" thread as if it's he's breaking original news or observations.
DEAR OP: Sid & Nancy are old news to everyone else and they've been discussed to DEATH. LITERALLY!
Nobody wants to drudge through this again and you don't get points for namedropping. This should have stayed a footnote in the other thread!
You're not cool enough to start threads, so just STOP.
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That was a good read, thanks for sharing, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||12/19/2017|
"Sociopathy" is not a clinical term at all, r7.
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|by Anonymous||reply 30||12/19/2017|
Really, R7? On what basis do you say this? Anti-social Personality Disorder is what it's called in the DSM, but clinicians and researchers use sociopathy regularly and interchangeably with ASPD
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My ph.d therapist said it sounds as if my brother may be a sociopath.
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A dark cloud.
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R30 loved that scene.
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I love the name Spungen.
My next cat...
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