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Men identifying as “Mostly Straight” because “Bisexual” is still “Too Gay”

Savin-Williams is a professor emeritus of development psychology at Cornell University and the author most recently of Mostly Straight: Sexual Fluidity Among Men. We hear a lot about the Big Three Sexualities — straight, bisexual and gay. Most of us assume that these three orientations encompass the universe of sexual identities. But there is a new kid on the block: The mostly straight male.

To the uninitiated, mostly straight may seem paradoxical. How can a man be mostly heterosexual? If you’re a young man, you might assume that either you’re straight or you’re not, meaning you’re likely gay and maybe bisexual. Yet the evidence suggests that more young men identify or describe themselves as mostly straight than identify as either bisexual or gay combined.

A 2011–2013 U.S. government poll found that among 18- to 24-year-old men, 6% marked their sexual attractions as “mostly opposite sex.” That’s nearly 1 million young men. Yet when these men were forced to choose between straight, bisexual or gay, about three-quarters marked straight because for them bisexual, even if it is understood as “bisexual-leaning straight,” is too gay to accurately describe their identity. Given such constraints, these young men were left with no place to truthfully register their sexuality, thus forcing them to be less than honest. Talking to them, I found that in the most general sense, a mostly straight young man is sexually and/or romantically distinctive; we might say that he’s fluid or flexible, supposedly uncharacteristic of male sexuality. Traditionally, our understanding has been that if you’re male and have even a slight attraction to the same sex, then you must be gay. Even if this isn’t immediately apparent, we tell men, it will become so once you come to terms with your true self and exit your “phase” of bicuriosity or questioning. Women, by contrast, we give more space to be sexually fluid, as the sizeable literature on the subject attests.

The mostly straight man belongs to a growing trend of young men who are secure in their heterosexuality yet remain aware of their potential to experience far more. Perhaps he’s felt attracted to or fantasized about another guy to a slight degree or intermittently. He might or might not be comfortable with this seeming contradiction, a hetero guy who, despite his lust for women, rejects a straight label, a sexual category and a sexual description that feels foreign. He’d rather find another place on the sexual/romantic continuum, some location that fits him more.

by Anonymousreply 139a day ago

So tedious.

by Anonymousreply 111/20/2017

[quote]“Sexuality is a scale—it is possible to be somewhere near the middle.” A majority of millennials endorsed the second option, which means they believe in a spectrum of sexuality.

yawn....rouse me from the dead when you actually discover something not known for 7 decades

by Anonymousreply 211/20/2017

So cool

by Anonymousreply 311/20/2017

Seriously. This is just the kinsey scale, absolutely nothing new.

The reality is if don't fall on either end of the kinsey scale, you are indeed bisexual. But people are just afraid of that word.

by Anonymousreply 411/20/2017

R3, why is it cool that men still see being gay as a bad thing?

by Anonymousreply 511/20/2017

R5 is obviously retarded

by Anonymousreply 611/20/2017

At least they admit they like some dudes. The gay label is not sacred.

by Anonymousreply 711/20/2017

it's ok so long as you're 'primarily straight'

bullshit

by Anonymousreply 811/20/2017

Mostly straight to my boudoir!

by Anonymousreply 911/20/2017

I don’t get the elder professional gay obsession with taking on “gay identity.” As long as they acknowledge some same-sex attraction, cool.

by Anonymousreply 1011/20/2017

This new label isn't flexible enough to account for variability.

"Mostly straight" while at work and with the family; "holding at 5% straight" while on the Internet.

by Anonymousreply 1111/20/2017

^ this

by Anonymousreply 1211/20/2017

People screaming about the non-existence of bisexuality, wanting to label everyone gay or straight: are the same ones screaming how people are labeling them.

by Anonymousreply 1311/20/2017

They all want the sex, but nobody wants the word "gay."

by Anonymousreply 1411/20/2017

I'm not gay. I just like taking it up the ass.

by Anonymousreply 1511/20/2017

This thread is indicative of the problem.

You can fool around with one guy and people think you are gay. No one, everyone who has had sex with a guy is not gay.

by Anonymousreply 1611/20/2017

"They all want the sex, but nobody wants the word "gay."

Word.

by Anonymousreply 1711/20/2017

R16 it's the flaming PTSD queens who got called "Fag" one too many times in HS and desperately want to prove Johnny Quarterback was a fairy too!

by Anonymousreply 1811/20/2017

What R18 said. Just like I don't want to be around "extreme" straight dudes ("hey broseph, when's the game start, high-five bro"). I also don't want to be around the extreme flamers - OMG GIRRRRRRRLLLLL DID YOU SEE REAL HOUSEWIVES? Let's flail into starbucks and try and get as many people to look at us so we an roll their eyes at them for looking at us!!!"

I sometimes don't blame straight guys for being just "mostly straight" for the dick or ass.

by Anonymousreply 1911/20/2017

Hmmmm

by Anonymousreply 2011/20/2017

Didn't bother clicking on the bullshit article but am sick and tired of closeted cases trying to create a new label for themselves so as to appear 'normal' and 'straight'.

Seriously is this what Savin Williams wastes money on at a university. So many other worthwhile endeavors could be achieved rather than trying to legitimize this made up crap.

by Anonymousreply 2111/20/2017

R21 was dressed as Madonna by age 4 and calls herself "Strictly Dickly" at Drag Brunches.

by Anonymousreply 2211/20/2017

Seeing a lots ads from guys identifying as and seeking “straightish dudes.”

by Anonymousreply 2311/20/2017

My gay friends and I had a name for "mostly straight" men I'm sure other gay men used it as well. We called them convincables. The straight guy that you just get a feeling about. Of course you had to be careful. Waiters and bartenders pass for convincables to up their tips from gay customers.

This is hardly new, but what is new is that more people are talking about it.

What also isn't new is men like R19 who just can't quite deal with their own internalized homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 2411/20/2017

[quote]What also isn't new is men like [R19] who just can't quite deal with their own internalized homophobia.

W&W

by Anonymousreply 2511/20/2017

R24 I typed a more fun reply but it got lost in la la land. Anyway, I'm really not homophobic. I'm extrema-phobic. What if I just want to suck a dick, but I don't want it to involve a whole gay pride parade with glitter and feather boas.

This thread got me wanting some straight scrotum.

by Anonymousreply 2611/20/2017

In HIV prevention, these are the guys we have to humor by calling them MSM (men who have sex with men.) It's not what they identify as, it's their behavior.

And, I say "humor" them, because these "mostly straight" men sure are having lots of homosexual sex.

by Anonymousreply 2711/20/2017

I can't see a problem with "mostly straight." It's just a less clinical term. I myself am "mostly nice"...it doesn't mean I'm cruel or hissy, it just means for the most part, I'm not. It might also get complicated for a guy if he's looking at the number of his partners. If he's been with 20 girl and 3 guys, I can see how they'd consider themselves "mostly straight." Their thinking might change at a later date...or not.

by Anonymousreply 2811/20/2017

I like what R28 has to say on this subject.

by Anonymousreply 2911/20/2017

Poor "bisexuals" nobody wants to be involved with their fake sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 3011/20/2017

R30 Do you not believe in bisexuality? Have you had sex with a gender other than your own? It's kinda fun. I admit, I more prefer penis, but vagina can be pretty hot, too. There's a lady right now that I'd totally have sex with, and about 30 men I would. So, I guess technically I'm "mostly gay" or bisexual or whatever we call it. So, I don't know why guys couldn't also be "mostly straight?" I don't know - I'm not a psychiatrist at all - strictly an opinion of one here!

by Anonymousreply 3111/20/2017

To me it is funny because every gay man watches porn, and we all know that tons of guys do gay porn and then go homes to their wife or girlfriend.

The idea that sexuality isn't black and white, that is there is space in the middle, shouldn't be so hard to buy.

by Anonymousreply 3211/20/2017

It's not black and white, R32, but it's also not an entire box of Crayolas.

There are two sexes male and female and three possible options. Same = homo oppositie = hetero both of the two sexes = bi

Three words are all we need to describe human sexuality.

The men who you describe participating in gay porn are bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 3311/20/2017

TRue bro

by Anonymousreply 3411/20/2017

R22 Drag brunches? God how OLD are you dear? You must be an eldergay. That scenario says more about you than me. Fuck I wasn't even born in Madonna's heyday.

Typical though another old, decrepit eldergay insistent on keeping up the hoopla of sexual fluidity so he can still claim he fucked a straight guy in 1941.

by Anonymousreply 3511/20/2017

R35, you type like an angry radical, man.

by Anonymousreply 3611/20/2017

Holy fuck R32 you better go off back to your swamp and fuck Cletus again. That's right getting your facts about life from a group of prostitutes is they way to go.

I can't believe that anyone still buys into the porn bullshit. 90 per cent of guys that do porn are damaged and usually from poor socioeconomic backgrounds with all sorts of issues, the biggest being their sexuality. They are usually from backgrounds with homophobia and judgemental family. Of course they would lie and say they're straight even though their have cocks up their asses and shoving cocks in their mouths like it was oxycontin.

Male sexuality is black and white. You are never going to get a true shade of grey because of environmental factors that distort results. If you eliminate homophobia then you will get a true reading of male sexuality, but until then it's all supposition peddled by those with an agenda.

by Anonymousreply 3711/20/2017

R36 Thanks for the compliment. It must have been hard to type with your arthritis and partial blindness.

by Anonymousreply 3811/20/2017

R37 "Male sexuality is black and white" Wrong. That is all.

by Anonymousreply 3911/20/2017

Hmmmmmmm

by Anonymousreply 4011/20/2017

R14. “No one wants the word ‘gay’” Bingo

by Anonymousreply 4111/20/2017

Being Tranz, I can truly say that my sexuality is bisexual. To me the genitals aren’t all that important. I am in a long term relationship with a man now. Before that I was with a woman. The notion of “mostly straight” is a bit of a cop out. Some people will do anything to publicly keep their straight privilege while engaging in secretive gaiety. That is weak, but better than the closet queens like that Republican Wes Goodman. That man has done harm to lgbt people while using us for his closeted sex life. THose types I despise.

by Anonymousreply 4211/20/2017

The book is based on conversations with 40 men. Not exactly a scientific sample.

by Anonymousreply 4311/20/2017

The mostly straight man belongs to a growing trend of young men who are secure in their heterosexuality yet remain aware of their potential to experience far more. Perhaps he’s felt attracted to or fantasized about another guy to a slight degree or intermittently. He might or might not be comfortable with this seeming contradiction, a hetero guy who, despite his lust for women, rejects a straight label, a sexual category and a sexual description that feels foreign. He’d rather find another place on the sexual/romantic continuum, some location that fits him morE

by Anonymousreply 4411/20/2017

INTEREsting

by Anonymousreply 4511/20/2017

R35 is hilarious and dead-on.

by Anonymousreply 4611/20/2017

We have this thread at least once a week.

by Anonymousreply 4711/20/2017

We need more studies

by Anonymousreply 4811/20/2017

We really don't, actually.

by Anonymousreply 4911/20/2017

The "mostly straight" label covers up a multitude of sins!

by Anonymousreply 5011/20/2017

The "mostly straight" types always typify the worst gay stereotypes.

by Anonymousreply 5111/20/2017

HOw so?

by Anonymousreply 5211/21/2017

R51 I think the "worst gay stereotypes" are from the worst of the gays - non-stop cheating/ barebacking, shattering every room with the HELLO GIRLS entrance, prancing around as fem as possible, turning every conversation into a lady gaga appreciation celebration, etc. I run scared from those gross gay stereotypes, too, and I'm proudly hooked on the dick. I just like men, not women. So, to me, the "worst gay stereotypes" are the reason we even have "mostly straight" guys. Why am I using "so many quotation marks?" I need "help."

by Anonymousreply 5311/21/2017

One girlfriend, twenty different guys that they bang on the side.

by Anonymousreply 5411/21/2017

Is "mostly straight" the same as pan sexual? I've been hearing millennials using this "pan sexual" term a lot to describe what I had assumed were closeted males who had public girlfriends/wives and secret sex with anonymous men. Is this called pan sexual now or "mostly straight" instead of closeted? Btw, I'm not even trying to be funny. I just don't get the terminology anymore and would like to have a conversation with millennials without sounding outdated or offensive.

by Anonymousreply 5511/21/2017

I know men who are bisexual but they call themselves "gay" especially to gay men as a lot of gay men don't understand bisexuality or will claim that they're lying, closeted, in denial, etc.

R55, "pansexual" is just another term for being bisexual. There are pansexual people but they are into sex acts that are illegal like pedo/hebephile stuff or sex with animals. See link, A rarity as a black serial killer, Coleman preferred to victimize African Americans - with Marlene Walters his only white murder victim - and once said he was forced by blacks to kill other members of his race. By the time he killed 9-year-old Vernita Wheat in Waukegan, Ill., on May 29, 1994, Coleman was well known to Chicago-area police as a sexual predator. While only once convicted and sent to prison (where he forced three other inmates to have sex), his rap sheet contained four arrests for rape. He had even been accused by a half-sister of sexually molesting his 9-year-old niece. A prison psychiatric profile found Coleman, a ninth grade dropout with an IQ on the lower edge of normal, to be 'a pansexual willing to have intercourse with any object, women, men, children, whatever.'

by Anonymousreply 5611/21/2017

R55 Same here, as far as the terminology. My fantasy is me and my "mostly straight" friend keep sucking each other off from time to time, or j/o together every so often and no one would make a big deal of it. Neither of us would be good for each other in a legit full-on relationship. Generally speaking, he and his gf are great together socially, and cuddly, and romantically. She just doesn't suck dick like I do. I also don't ever want to spend the night with him cuddling, and planning our meals together - not my thing. I like what we have now. Is that so wrong? Let him be mostly straight, and I'll be mostly gay.

by Anonymousreply 5711/21/2017

Women won't date them if they say they're bisexual, so they'll say they're straight. Gay men don't care.

by Anonymousreply 5811/21/2017

R57 or why not have sex with each other and his girlfriend all at once? Have you talked to them about this at all?

"mostly gay"=another term for being bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 5911/21/2017

As long as many or most openly gay men are fem or nonmasculine, there will be a strong stigma against gay identity that repels most men to avoid it at all costs. Most men want to be associated with an identity or culture known for diva-worship, calling men by female pronouns, campiness, or otherwise acting like females.

by Anonymousreply 6011/21/2017

R30 aw mad you couldn't get up for a woman, so you believe others can't like men and women?

by Anonymousreply 6111/21/2017

Self loating assholes. They're no better than the "queer" or "sexually fluid" types. Seriously, they need to get over their issues, being bisexual is not a bad thing.

by Anonymousreply 6211/21/2017

I meant “Most men DON’T want to be associated with an identity or culture known for diva-worship, calling men by female pronouns, campiness, or otherwise acting like females.”

by Anonymousreply 6311/21/2017

I do find it hilarious that bisexuals keep complaining about erasure and bemoan the need to label sexuality and yet they constantly twist themselves in knots coming up with an seemingly never-ending stream of new labels to avoid saying 'I am bisexual'.

Just an aside, I've never understood the notion that bisexuals and homosexuals are similar, these are two completely different and distinct sexualities. A gay men will never truly know what it means to be bi, nor vice versa.

I listen to bi guys talk about their attractions for men and women vacillating over years, months, or even day-to-day. I listen to bi guys talk about being sexually attracted to men and women, but only romantically attracted to women. I listen to bi guys talk about being attracted to dicks but not men. I listen to bi guys talk about 'discovering' a sexual attraction to men in their 20s, 30s, 40s or even 50s.

I, as a gay man, can try to understand the experiences of bisexuals, but I will never truly know or relate to these experiences because I'm not bisexual. Just because we're all lumped into this expanding group of letters (LGB++++++) doesn't mean we can't acknowledge there are fundamental differences between bisexuals and homosexuals.

by Anonymousreply 6411/21/2017

[quote] Just like I don't want to be around "extreme" straight dudes ("hey broseph, when's the game start, high-five bro"). I also don't want to be around the extreme flamers - OMG GIRRRRRRRLLLLL DID YOU SEE REAL HOUSEWIVES? Let's flail into starbucks and try and get as many people to look at us so we an roll their eyes at them for looking at us!!!"

That's [italic]exactly[/italic] how straight guys and gay guys talk!!!

by Anonymousreply 6511/21/2017

And in other news, we can expect snow in Vermont this winter.

by Anonymousreply 6611/21/2017

A lot of guys here do talk in that extremely fem campy way. Very much stereotypical

by Anonymousreply 6711/21/2017

I'm a 100% gay, but I wonder what my daddy and uncles would have been.

You see, my daddy started fucking me when I was 8. He was a huge, built cattleman. 6'4" and weighing at least 275 pounds and built like a shit brickhouse. He forced his huge, unwashed, cheesy cock into me. No lube. Just spit, or gun oil if he had any. He would degrade and feminize me. He made me wear my sister's dresses and patent leather shoes. Often he would parade me around town in my sister's dress and raise the hem and show laughing passers-by my tiny cocklet. I was so degraded! I've never been so humiliated! He would make degrading gestures by putting his thumb and forefinger close together, leaving only a tiny space between them, and indicate this was how small my puny clit was. He called me a f@g, a punk, a buttboy, and a queer. He made me dance degrading dances and sing humiliating songs for my uncles and grandpappy. These were heavyset, weather-beaten cowboys with handlebar mustaches, thick biceps and meaty thighs. They would laugh while I danced for them, jacking their huge cocks. I was forced to service their nasty, huge cocks. Then they would pack my rectum full of hot jizz.

I'm only now beginning to recover from the psychological ravages of my abusive childhood.

by Anonymousreply 6811/21/2017

According to Congressman Wes Goodman, it's not gay if you're both alphas.

by Anonymousreply 6911/21/2017

Gay culture emasculates men, so naturally men avoid the identity

by Anonymousreply 7011/21/2017

R68 's fictional account is why we can't have nice things.

by Anonymousreply 7111/21/2017

GREAT news

by Anonymousreply 7211/21/2017

[quote]aw mad you couldn't get up for a woman, so you believe others can't like men and women?

You obviously don't have a penis.

by Anonymousreply 7311/21/2017

This also has nothing to do with women so what the fuck are they doing now. Trying to "save their men"?

by Anonymousreply 7411/21/2017

HUh?

by Anonymousreply 7511/21/2017

Yboom

by Anonymousreply 7611/21/2017

Where did this absurd idea come from that women are naturally bisexual and men are gay or straight? I don’t hold that same opinion because I’ve known bisexual men.

by Anonymousreply 7711/21/2017

Dope

by Anonymousreply 7811/21/2017

From the new set of studies on Women and Gay Men and Why They Do Annoying Things by Dr. Abdul Rahman-Aziz

by Anonymousreply 7911/21/2017

[quote]“Sexuality is a scale—it is possible to be somewhere near the middle.” A majority of millennials endorsed the second option, which means they believe in a spectrum of sexuality.

Uh, no it's not, at least not for men. Sexuality is binary for men. The Kinsey scale is outdated flawed BS from the 1950s. A lot of his research is biased and has been disproven.

by Anonymousreply 8011/21/2017

R80 So just because you had homosexual urges and tried your best to like women and failed, it means no man can like both?

by Anonymousreply 8111/21/2017

R80 is the annoying type

by Anonymousreply 8211/21/2017

and then there are bisexuals

though some just say they're kidding themselves . . .

la la la la la la la la

by Anonymousreply 8311/21/2017

R82, the truth is annoying?

by Anonymousreply 8411/22/2017

"... a growing trend of young men who are secure in their heterosexuality yet remain aware of their potential to experience far more."

aka cheating

And there's nothing new about it.

by Anonymousreply 8511/22/2017

It cracks me up when people want to believe something so bad R80, that they state is as absolute fact, no matter what, all the research points to my opinion. End of story. La la la, closing my ears. I am smartest. Where's my mommy?

by Anonymousreply 8611/22/2017

If bisexuals take over then we're going to need weapons because they're way more violent.

by Anonymousreply 8711/22/2017

I wonder if all this opening up about straight men being such creepers at women will start to make "mostly straight" men explore their male interests even more, thinking it's a safer bet.

by Anonymousreply 8811/22/2017

As someone mentioned above, there is no statistical significance to this book's findings. It is based on an incredibly small sample size (n=40) and is based on self report (notoriously unreliable data).

The sexuality studies that measure arousal based on penile plethysmography are much more reliable.

by Anonymousreply 8911/22/2017

Could one of you "non-gays" please explain to me why you come to a web site that says right on the front door "We've been serving up this steaming pile of Gay celebrity gossip, politics and pointless bitchery since 1995"

If you have such hatred and animosity towards anything gay, why not go to you own "non-gay" website? Why do yo come here to a GAY site. Oh wait, is it because there are so few of you non-gays the miniscule traffic to any such site wouldn't begin to cover the costs?

by Anonymousreply 9011/22/2017

R90 - I'm too lazy to scroll all through, but I don't even remember anyone saying they were "non gay" - maybe I missed it. And does difference of opinion always equate to "hatred and animosity?" I must keep missing stuff.

by Anonymousreply 9111/22/2017

[quote]The sexuality studies that measure arousal based on penile plethysmography are much more reliable.

Please quote some.

I'd be curious to know how many guys who identify as straight or mostly so are aroused by both genders.

by Anonymousreply 9211/22/2017

Hah, R54... So true. Same old bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 9311/22/2017

Bisexuality does exist. I identify as bisexual. I dated a girl in high school and even took her to prom and madeout! So I'm not what you would call a gold star gay but a genuine bisexual man.

by Anonymousreply 9411/22/2017

I think they're moving off of bisexual because the jig is up. People kind of realize now that bi men are almost always gay but wanting to appear partly straight.

by Anonymousreply 9511/22/2017

R95 - sometimes, but certainly not always.

by Anonymousreply 9611/22/2017

LOL R94. You even "made out" with your prom date, you say?! Yes, you MUST be bisexual then....

by Anonymousreply 9711/22/2017

R95, not really. Your worldview is tiny.

by Anonymousreply 9811/22/2017

TYgff

by Anonymousreply 9911/22/2017

the gay male stereotype is usually super effeminate men with frosted blond hair. but all the gay dudes ive met can more or less be summed up as quiet, brunette, super into computers/science, wears flannel, listens to hip hop or indie music.

by Anonymousreply 10011/22/2017

Keep in mind Breitbart is probably in this thread trying to push their agenda of breaking up our community.

That said, Bisexuals are notorious for pursuing trans women for sex, but refuse to consider them for normal relationships. They seem to do the same with gay men or female bisexuals touristing with Lesbians. When bisexuals start loving same sex partners or trans, I think they will be more respected. We are as worthy of love, legitimacy and relationship status as hetero relationships. Your lgbt sex partners should not be dirty secrets.

by Anonymousreply 10111/22/2017

Uh okay

by Anonymousreply 10211/22/2017

R100, I need to meet the gay guys you know. I've always wanted to meet gay guys like that.

Never have

by Anonymousreply 10311/23/2017

[quote]Keep in mind Breitbart is probably in this thread trying to push their agenda of breaking up our community.

You keep repeating this in every thread you disagree with. What's YOUR agenda?

by Anonymousreply 10411/23/2017

Exactly

by Anonymousreply 10511/23/2017

OP, I appreciate your effort to educate but the average DLer's knowledge of sexuality rivals a Republican housewife from Kansas, with all the misconceptions.

On DL, if a guy has slept with 500 women and one man, he's a pathetic closet case and a terrible person to boot - for his cowarldy resusal to come out!

If a guy has slept with 1,000 women and has only fantasized about sex with a man he is - you guessed it - a closet case who'll be so much happier when he finally embraces his true self!

There's no "mostly straight" - It's 100% het or you're gay, gay, gay.

by Anonymousreply 10611/23/2017

True, it’s an archaic elder professional gay mindset predominates on DL. No nuance, no complexity, no fluidity. Outdated

by Anonymousreply 10711/23/2017

R92 Why don't you start with the link below- this is a nice "meta analysis" that summarizes multiple studies, and be sure to look at the reference list for specific studies. You can cross reference them at Pubmed.gov

by Anonymousreply 10811/23/2017

FGGGFFxds

by Anonymousreply 10911/24/2017

I love brosexuals!

by Anonymousreply 11011/26/2017

Really? There are still DLers who like to say bisexual men don't exist? Science says otherwise

[quote] the new one finds that bisexual men responded to both the male and female videos, while gay and straight men in the study did not.

by Anonymousreply 11111/26/2017

Because some people think: Gay = Effeminate and weak

by Anonymousreply 11211/26/2017

Of course, and they think gay male culture is lame, unmanly, and whack.

by Anonymousreply 11311/26/2017

No idea who these guys are dating, female wise, but most women will not seriously date a guy who is not straight, if she is. In fact, there are a lot of women who do not date men who come across as feminine.

by Anonymousreply 11411/26/2017

They still think 'gay' is a bad thing. Poor, benighted souls.

by Anonymousreply 11511/26/2017

Of course they do

by Anonymousreply 11611/26/2017

[quote]No idea who these guys are dating, female wise, but most women will not seriously date a guy who is not straight

That's one reason why bisexual guys tend to lie so much. Eventually it becomes habitual. I knew a bi guy who lied anout the stupidest things. He'd say he ate at McDonald's if he ate Wendy's.

by Anonymousreply 11711/26/2017

Whatta buncha stupid Phaagzz! It doesn't matter if you're Halle Berry or Lupita Nyongo, the KKK still sees you as a nigrra

by Anonymousreply 11811/26/2017

ALrighty then

by Anonymousreply 11911/28/2017

And yet women love Harry Styles who has a feminine apperance and constantly hopes he's bisexual and dating Liam. Just proves further gay men don't know women and shouldn't comment for them.

by Anonymousreply 12011/28/2017

Even in 2017, America still adheres to the "Suck One Cock And You Are Gay Forever" rule.

by Anonymousreply 12111/28/2017

In personals/apps, I specify I am only seeking “straightish dudes.”

by Anonymousreply 12211/28/2017

R120, Girls, not women.

by Anonymousreply 12311/28/2017

Yep,so many people still think that way r121

by Anonymousreply 12411/28/2017

R121 Gays in America, but most people know women are opening up to male bisexuality, hence why it's been shown more and more on media

by Anonymousreply 12511/28/2017

Bryan Singer is bisexual.

So are Dustin Lance Bass and Tom Daily.

by Anonymousreply 12612/02/2017

R126 No they're not bisexual.

Singer is a pedo/hebephile, and yet somehow he was allowed to adopt a child?!

Dustin Lance Bass and Tom Daily are gay men.

by Anonymousreply 12712/02/2017

Yyepp

by Anonymousreply 12812/02/2017

I love ❤️ these bros .

by Anonymousreply 12912/03/2017

Most straight women are not into bisexual men maybe it is common among young millennia women but most over 30 prefer straight men. Bisexual women are a different animal because they tend to be more open to bi men. I really don't think most straight women are that desperate, yes there will be few who feel their biological clock is ticking and will settle for a bi man. I am paraphrasing Chris rock words " when a woman settles for a bi guy he was never her first choice, she really wanted a straight man" . Chris rock did not state it like that but I just switched it around.

by Anonymousreply 13012/03/2017

R130, so what dude? There are plenty of women who are the exception and cool with it today. Of course, monogamy is critical. Any guy who can’t commit and be Faithful has no business being in any type relationship

by Anonymousreply 13112/03/2017

Singer didn't adopt R127

He impregnated a friend of his and they had the child together.

Thinking the impregnation occurred in a test tube.

by Anonymousreply 13212/03/2017

Stop talking about dudes who aren’t hot.

by Anonymousreply 13312/03/2017

Yepp

by Anonymousreply 13412/04/2017

People are seeking bros who just happen to make out with dudes, but none of the stereotypical gay stuff that makes so many gay guys seem effeminate.

by Anonymousreply 135Last Thursday at 3:25 AM

Progress

by Anonymousreply 136Last Saturday at 2:33 AM

Mostly straight or Trans - those are your options.

by Anonymousreply 137Last Saturday at 2:40 AM

I’ll take Mostly Straight, Alex

by Anonymousreply 138Last Saturday at 7:10 PM

Voim

by Anonymousreply 139a day ago
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